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Speaker 1: We have a question from Doylene Taiprobu and he's asking,

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if we say that Mahaprabu and Nityananda Prabu are the

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most merciful avatars of Bagawan, why Mahaprabu was so strict

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with Choda Harri Doas for me, it's the kind of

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scandalous that Mahapabu got satisfied with his suicide. And why

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did Janando prop got so angry with Shivananda because he

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was late. Please explain these two pastimes Choda Harry does

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chastisement and Nityananda Prabu kicking shivanandas.

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Speaker 2: So we have to understand the word meaning li lah pastimes.

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There is our divine pastimes. Just like in a movie,

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a play, a drama, there has to be some dramatic

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tension so that the and ones, the heroic aspect can

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rise and be seen, be in the spotlight the heroic

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aspect and Leelah means devotion. The connecting thread between all

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these pastimes is the spotlight will be shin, will shine

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on devotion. That is what is important. So in the

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case of Chota hearted Us, we see for not only

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what we call it a minor offense, really no offense

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at all, and that underscores the importance of this pastime.

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We're told that he on the plea of begging round

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from Harperable, he approached one lady Andy.

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Speaker 3: He keeps sucking his teeth. I don't like the way

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he talking. I like spiritual talk. But did he just

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have woodies or something? You see? And what had happened

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was with marhapaboots. Listen, it's holdness Wednesday. The voice of

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reason has returned to the scene of the conversation, and

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he brought his right and eye in the building. You

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already know who's here, precious Miguel, that's in the building.

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Speaker 4: How y'all doing.

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Speaker 3: Tonight's topic is a heavy one, and he was about

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to broach it. He just kept.

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Speaker 4: Getting that barbecue out of his teeth.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't like it, but to get in the moxtails.

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Let me tell you so, tonight's topic is deep because

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we've heard this topic in many different ways, but not

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quite like this. H you've heard Shakespeare The world is

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a stage, right, everybody has their interests entrance and exit right.

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The world is a play. I heard Guru say something

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about his miracles before Guru by the name of Setya

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Sai Baba and you know Rod Sterling and all these

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people like studied this guy. Okay, scientists went to live

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with him and study him because of the sheer, mass

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and volume and value of the things he was materializing

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out of thin air.

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Speaker 4: Oh wow, I've heard yes, yes, yes.

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Speaker 3: Yes, documented guy, and well it's interesting. He said to

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the scientists. He used the Sanskrit term leila. He said,

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the miracles are my leila. And then the scientists was like, well,

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we don't speak can do or Sanskrit, so what is that?

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And he said, leila means play sport, right, my divine play.

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He said, if you were to understand the immensity of

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my being, you would see that the miracles are like

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a mosquito on the back of an elephant. So he

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was explaining this stuff to these scientists and I was like, oh,

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this is it the intimate leela or divine play? M right.

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We jump into these relationships for a purpose to play

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a role that maybe we are unaware mostly right of

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which role we're supposed to play or why we're there. Right,

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the intimate leela divine play trying to stabilize intimate impermanence

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oh my God. In Sanskrit, leela means play, sport, or

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divine play. In Hindu philosophy, it describes how the entire

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universe and all existence are created by the Divine out

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of spontaneous joy and freedom, rather than necessity or need.

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So the question became, what if God provides the mirrored

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intimate play i e. The relationship while conditioning our conditioning

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our wounds, writes the protective false self script, we keep

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performing inside of this divine play called relationships? Right? What

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if the thing you keep demanding from the person in

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front of you is the exact capacity life is calling

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you to reclaim within yourself a divine play. So you

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got to play this thing out pretty much. You got

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to get in it with somebody and figure out why

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you were attracted to that person, And oh, here we go.

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What if the person you called the love of your

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life entered carrying the key to the place where you

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still believe you are incomplete? Human beings begin life dependent

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That dependence is innocent. A child requires regulation, protection, recognition, touch, present,

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and care. When those needs remain unfinished, adulthood can inherit

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more than pain. It can inherit an assignment find somebody

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who will finally make the old absence stop hurting. Then

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attraction can feel like destiny because conditioning recognizes a familiar

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role before consciousness recognizes the script. The divine mirrored intimate

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play forces another free changing human being close enough to

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activate what solitude can keep hidden. Their distance can uncover abandonment.

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Independence can expose control. A boundary can reveal entitlement. Desire

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can expose the hunger to be chosen. Change can uncover

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the fear beneath your demand for permanence. See the fear

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needs permanence. Don't leave, don't go. That's coming from home.

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Uh oh, so you mean to tell me the relationship

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is a divine play designed to take you back home

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so you can break up with home so you can

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now move forward in an unconditioned talk to me, precious,

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it's the short.

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Speaker 4: End the long of it. Essentially, it's the short end,

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the lung of it. And it is the divine piece

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about it is it's a default that we have right

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We subconsciously, unknowingly choose the precise brand of pain that

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we're healing from. Now Here's the thing about it is,

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the closer we get to remedying ourselves of that pain.

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It might get real ugly, right, So it may manifest

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in certain ways, like, for example, you could have a

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guy that has a mother that is dealing with mental

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health challenges and she's undiagnosed and she is wreaking havoc

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on the family, and his sole desire from age eight

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is to get out of dodge, start a life of

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his own, not be in a space where he has

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to be subject to that energy from a woman. And

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so he's playboy, play around, not really attaching, which is

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also avoiding. And then he gets to a place where

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he feels like, you know, I'm you know, in my forties.

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Now I want to kind of start to settle down

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or I want to think about settling down, and so

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he begins to choose, and then it's like, look, I'm

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finally being good to this person and she's talking to

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me crazy, she's speaking about things that have no clue

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about Well, you are for her her trauma, she is

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for you yours, right. And it's not until you enter

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into relationship where these types of dynamics start to play out,

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Because if you're just touching go, you're avoiding connection, you're

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going for feeling got me, and it's like, what did

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I do? Actually, you did nothing. She's being triggered by

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her trauma, but what you're witnessing in her is yours.

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Speaker 3: Oh Lord, here go to question is what if the

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person you thought broad God sent to you?

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Speaker 4: Oh my God, I would say that God did send

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them to you.

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Speaker 3: Wait, let me give it a questions. What if the

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person you thought God sent to complete you was fine

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tuned to expose the part of you that still believed

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completion was necessary.

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Speaker 4: And I would say they are got a godsend because

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they expose, They peel back the layers that you are

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dealing with. So you know, a person could feel abandoned

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and there is no abandonment there because this person is

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triggering it for you. Maybe they're a secure attached, securely

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attached person and they don't walk around with their phone

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in their hands, so you know they didn't even see

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that you called here. It is hours later you didne

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crashed out right. Well, if I could just get you

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to be more mindful that I'm going to be calling,

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tend to your phone so that I won't have to

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experience this. No, you mind your business. You tend to

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whatever is coming up with you because I'm triggering it,

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but I'm not doing it.

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Speaker 3: Gosh, did God write a role script a role for you?

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Speaker 4: No, I would say aloud.

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Speaker 3: Here we go. We can't stay right there, don't go nowhere.

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We cook it, and we cook it. When the voice

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of reason returns, Holeness Wednesday, gonna turn the heat up

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on the grail. Let's go.

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Speaker 5: The truth of face, not living delusions.

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Speaker 3: Were about to get cussed out.

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Speaker 2: And.

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Speaker 5: Without delusions, it's very difficult to observe.

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Speaker 6: For gludy yourself and not fashing actualities. Then you said,

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becomes impossible to recut once.

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Speaker 5: I sped. But we like delos, salusions everybody form of deception.

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Speaker 3: Mm hmmm.

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Speaker 6: Because you have flicked to look at ourselves, as we said,

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to look out ourselves very clearly, accurately, precisely.

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Speaker 5: It's only possible in a mirror of relationship. That's the

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only mirror that we have.

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Speaker 6: When you look at yourself, we have combed your hair,

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shaving or doing whatever you're doing to your face.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, ay Man, Marty, I told you he was going. Gosh,

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so again, relationship. The only mirror you have is what

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he said, This divine Leela, this play Shakespeare, The world

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is a stage. Everybody has their entrance and their exits, right,

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So the intimate relationship who wrote the script?

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Speaker 4: When you say the intimate, you mean between two people.

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Speaker 3: Between two people, between a family, friend groups, soul groups,

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because there's conflict there.

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Speaker 4: Have you ever heard of the concept of co creators?

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We are co creators, right, We are in creation with God,

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expanding through experience, right, Like Jim Hendrick say, are you experienced? Right?

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It's the It's not about being good, it's about the learning.

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It's about the expansion, you know, being intentional, about healing

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the part of your life that you had no control

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over with the exception of you choosing this experience. I'm

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a soul standpoint, you know. But even the time that

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we spend unintentional and just following our feelings of being

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in love, you know, that high of being in love,

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there's something divine about that too, because you learn at

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some point that feeling for me became like a red flag, like, uh,

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you know, that's feeling real good. But let me pay attention,

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you know, because I'm a lover girl. I love love,

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but it means something vastly different to me now than

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it did when I was twenty five. Oh right, because

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I've done a lot of expanding learning, and when you

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first start that learning process, you are looking at your partner,

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so you can kind of like how we talked about

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the wound vetting, so you can make a different choice.

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And then what you realize is what you have to

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choose is yourself, gosh right, not yourself and other people,

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but paying attention in choosing yourself and honoring yourself in relationship,

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not avoiding them, but honoring yourself inside relationship.

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Speaker 3: What if the relationship keeps changing because the play is alive,

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while the same relationship keeps repeating because the false self

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refuses to improvise. When we come forward the voice of reason,

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we're gonna keep this barbecue.

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Speaker 7: I came up with a way of understanding this what

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I would call this magnetic attraction of personality types. And

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what I what I what I what I created is

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what we all already know. I came up with an explanation,

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a word created for something that fits our own experience,

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that there is a personality type match that pulls people

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together into a real relationship, whether it's healthy a relationship

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attraction or unhealthy relationship attraction. And in the case of

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a codependent, someone who is connected to everyone else's needs

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over their own is seemingly and always attracted to someone

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who is a narcissist who's always connected to their own needs.

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Speaker 5: Just like a.

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Speaker 7: Professional dancing couple, we think about if they're going to

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dance for a living, their roles must be perfectly matched.

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You cannot have two people leading a dance because it's

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just won't happen. There's gonna be a tug of pull.

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You can't have two people following in a dance because

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they're going to step on each other's toes. For this

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dancing experience to work, you have to have a perfect

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matching of opposite roles. And for a dysfunctional relationship to work,

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to come together, and to stay together, there has to

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be a perfect pairing of dysfunctional opposite. The person who

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is a natural caregiver, who reflexively loves, cares, and respects

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for others at the expense of their own always, and

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I really mean always, is that I'm that specific and confident,

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is always unconsciously attracted to someone who's all about their

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own needs, who need someone to love, respect, and care

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for themselves. These two opposites don't know that one is

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a narcissist and the other is a codependent. They just

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fall in love. It's chemistry. But in reality, what we

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find out in these relationships it could only work, the

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attraction could only work, and then the persistence, the stability

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of this dysfunctional relationship stays because the codependent matches perfectly

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with the narcissist. The caregiver needs a care needer, and

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without the two, the relationship would not last. It's paradoxical.

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Speaker 3: It come on Rossenburg something there, that's Ross Rossenberg from

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the human Magnet syndrome. And you know he had to

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clinicalize Christian Emerti's relationship as a mirror. There you go,

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that's all The relationship is a mirror, right.

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Speaker 4: But I like the context of it, yeah, he cooked, Yeah,

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because it begs the question, well, what role are you

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playing in the relationship? Your partner's this, your partner's that,

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your partner's this? What about you?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 4: And if you can get to the what about you?

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That's effective that's where work can be done.

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Speaker 3: And then who wrote your script? This is a divine

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play because because you hear people say this all the time, right,

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you chose this reality before you came here. You chose

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the parents, you chose the situations and what you're going

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to go through. You chose all of this because you

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wanted expansion and growth, and you wanted to be able

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to return back to your true self that is devoid

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of all of the stuff you went through when you

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chose this life. This is growth. This is God rediscovering

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different parts of itself while already knowing the journey, while

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revealing the journey to the un known parts of it.

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Do you see how this works? So if that is

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the case, who wrote the script and why and why

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are you playing this out?

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Speaker 7: So?

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Speaker 4: I from my perspective, it's a part of the soul's journey.

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It's carrying over karmic lessons. You know, it's to me

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a little lazy when people say I just want what

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God wants from me. Well, perfect, God wants for you

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what you want for you, So what do you want right?

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Those needs, wants, desires, the behavior, the situation predestined not

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by God, well by God, but the part of you

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that is the nation of God, that is choosing the

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soul lessons that are carried over and over like for example,

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without getting on your head too much there's someone that

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I know that you know, and there's a deep soul

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connection there. Right, There's been lifetimes of this type of connection.

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You can't get away from it. Even if you stop

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seeing the person in this lifetime, you will see them

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in the next. This is why there's a part of

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us that feels drawn to a person. Right. I know

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that I've had very few but very intense connections with

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a very few people, and it doesn't really make sense

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why I will be in connection with this person, right,

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But there's something to the soul. There's something that the

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soul is attempting to learn. And when we're in the

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soul state, without the body, without the being, right, we

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are just the soul. In a soul state, these agreements

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are much more amicable. Hey, I need you to disappoint

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me in this next lifetime.

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Speaker 3: Can you do that for me? I got same up,

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I got you. I got a good disappointment, yeah, right right, yes.

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Speaker 4: And in relationship to our last experiences together, it might

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help balance me out if we go in this way,

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you know. And this is why I tell people when

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they ask the question, am I gonna end up with

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my person? That remains to be seen?

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Speaker 3: But to me. That's womb talk.

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Speaker 4: It is the wound talk.

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Speaker 3: That's womb talk.

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Speaker 4: It's because it's attachment, because.

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Speaker 3: The wound is like permanence, stability, consistency, don't change. All

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of that's born out of need. When you start dealing

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with the higher levels of consciousness, need goes away.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. It you enter in a space where I use

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to wonder why they would say this. If you love something,

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you'll set it free right now?

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Speaker 3: You know? Right now?

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Speaker 4: I know because I'm working at setting people free, loving

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and setting people free, even in an intimate connection. It's like,

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allow this person to be who they are without my expectations.

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So I won't run down to a person what it

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is I need from you? Well, tell me what you need. No,

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and now, because I'm trying to play a game, I

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don't want to manipulate you out of your experience of

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being show up authentically.

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Speaker 3: Intimate, mirrored, divine, orchestrated leila.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, oh my goodness.

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Speaker 3: This is a miracle God put together so that we

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could discover the God in us, the needlessness in us.

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When we come forward the voice of reason on wholeness Wednesdays,

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when Precious Miguil, we gonna keep God again.

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Speaker 8: The question is about intimate relationships, how to how to

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how to leave these relationships from this pure love and

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not like in my personal experience, it's always coming back

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to the ID identification as soon as I it doesn't

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come from pure love. And in the end, of course,

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I'm disappointed because I have projections and.

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Speaker 3: I have a.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I need something from from the person, and it

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seems like and since I'm disappointed, I go back to

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this advitor. I said to myself, Okay, I withdraw and

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that's where I really feel the piece of my true beating.

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like as if I'm cutting some part of life.

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Speaker 9: I think the Church of England should rewrite their wedding

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vows and instead of vowing to obey and all that

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we should, we should take a vow to love each

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other unconditionally, which is simply another way of stating that

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the prior nature of our shared being, we don't actually

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have to vow. It's an acknowledgment of what is already

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the case, an acknowledgment of the fact that behind our

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differing thoughts and feelings and sometimes conflictual activities and ways

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of relating a being as shed That would be the first.

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Speaker 3: Get professor snape out of here.

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Speaker 4: Six and one hand, half a dozen and another.

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Speaker 3: I mean, what in the Hogwarts relationship advice, I see

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what he was trying to get at. Yeah, and I

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even understand her question. But she's highlighting something that I

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keep saying. This is why it's a divine play. You

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think you need something? Yes, she was labeling it. I'm

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looking for this person because of something I need, and

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this is why I call need the original sin. So

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now I have the question, what if your relationships have

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been telling you you the truth about you that your

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identity right currently has been organized to conceal. So you

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had to become somebody to survive the somebody's that molded you.

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Speaker 4: Yes, indeed.

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Speaker 3: So now when you get into a relationship and it's

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operating as a mirror, it's exposing to somebody you had

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to become, and it's saying, oh, no, no, no, I

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don't want to date that. There's something on the other side.

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Is that you? Who is that? Talk to me?

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Speaker 4: It's more of a this, right, it's the rub that

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you feel. The rub is what you're in relationship with.

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I've been disrespected. I've been abandoned. I've been hurt. They

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don't value me. I self abandon I don't value myself.

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I don't respect myself. I'm not loving myself. I don't

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know how to show up for myself. You know, the

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first time I heard that concept when someone told me, well,

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they're just mirroring in you how you feel about yourself,

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because I'm like, hell no, you know, I'm a fly chick.

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I don't feel like I love me what I marry me?

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It is a different question than would you marry you.

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It's more like, if you married you, what would you

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be getting?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 4: Because what you feel in relationship to another person's behavior

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says everything about what you need to heal inside of yourself.

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And that's an unpleasant look because we don't think that

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we would do that to ourselves. But what I'm saying

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is indeed, you're doing it to yourself by not looking

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at it in yourself. And so you are attracted chemically,

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even to someone and it's like something's different about them.

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They have an exotic look. No, it's not really what

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the person looks like on the outside. It's the and

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the trauma that they're carrying that matches the magnet. It's

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the metal for the magnet that's in you. That is

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your unhealed trauma.

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Speaker 3: That's it.

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Speaker 4: That's all.

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Speaker 10: When different lovers keep activating strangely familiar fears, desires, defenses, attractions,

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and emotional roles.

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Speaker 3: Are you repeatedly choosing the wrong people or are different

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people being cast into an unfinished psychological script you keep

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carrying from relationship to relationships. You got a script. That

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script is your type vibrationally, a frequency. Oh, you got

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a frequency type and it's all lined in, and you're

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calling it in because you refuse to go with the

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Talk to me about that refusal.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like if you are the orchestrator or you

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are the conductor of this musical group, you ever had

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to replace the bass player ten times, but they're still

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playing the bass no matter how they're showing up. Their

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discipline may be different, their skill level may be different,

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but they still playing the bass. That is the chord

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that is in you. It is what needs to be healed.

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So instead of trying to figure out what's wrong with

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the bass player, figure out what inside of you was

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corresponding to that need. You understand what I'm saying, where

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is that internal need? What is it coming from? I

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did a head cleaning for someone in my office, and

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I noticed that the bubbles that were coming up. One

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was larger than I had ever seen. It was like

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it had burned the bottle. And as soon as it

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came up, it delivered so much information where I was

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able to see, you're not having an issue with your woman.

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You have an issue with your mama. Well, I've healed

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my issue with my mama. Yes, Now, this is why

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you get to deal with your mama. The unseen, unspoken

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parts in other people, and it's showing up quite viciously

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because the spirit loves you much.

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Speaker 3: What's your website? Somebody need their head cleannessy? You know

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what do you do it? Like a shoe shine? I

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need a headshine?

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Speaker 4: Well, rags are involved.

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Speaker 3: What's the website?

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Speaker 4: Press with precious dot com?

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Speaker 3: Gosh, when difficult lovers keep activating strangely familiar fears, desires, defenses, attractions,

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this is heavy stuff. Tonight. Listen, you're listening to the

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voice of reasons. It's holding this Wednesday. Uh TikTok is

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on fire. YouTube is on fire. I want to do

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something different tonight, I want the callers to call in.

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I call in, but I want to ask the callers questions. Oh,

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I want to ask them question nice Typically they call

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in and ask oh.

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Speaker 4: Andy said, they're not gonna call.

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Speaker 3: Andy, don't have no faith.

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Speaker 4: You don't think they were calling last night?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they were. I'm not gonna drill. I'm gonna ask questions.

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Speaker 4: I'm a drill the same.

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Speaker 3: Way I ask precious questions and precious answers. Y'all been

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listening now. I want to see what they're going I

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want to see their thought process. Yeah, Andy said, they're

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not gonna do it. The number of doll is one,

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eight hundred and nine twenty fifteen eighty. I got questions

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for you. Would you like to answer them? For me?

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I need to be educated, please, Yeah, call and enlighten

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me and precious, can you do it? The number dow

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one eight hundred nine, twenty fifteen eighty. When we come

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forward more from the v R.

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Speaker 11: There's sang Sanga means the numbers of people who have

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come together called by the same voice, which is always

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the impersonal voice of truth, says time now in this life,

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come come and discover the truth. You see there are

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many ways that we can discover the truth through in

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many different forms, through different religions, in different practices. Because

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God is infinite, God is immense. You cannot limit God

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to one particular religions. Only this religion and knows God.

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This is nonsense things Gods as varied as people are.

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Each one of them can and find God in a way,

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not just by their own imagination, but if they have

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that urge within them already. That urge is put in

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there by the grace of God and will lead them

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to the path that is right and suitable for them. Okay,

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I am glad and thankful to know you. So I'm

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glad and thankful to know you had a safe trip

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back to Mantisahasha, thank you for making this letter possible.

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Thank you for handling this situation of crisis with such generosity,

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care and prudence. Thank you for your loving being. Thank

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you with this catchup. I experienced this time as a

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great opportunity for going deeper. The opportunity of taking part

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online in the Rishikesh retreat was the starting point of

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this turning inside. Now life offers a retreat situation in

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daily life. Yes, this is true, ah.

472
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Speaker 3: Mike Andy that Mouji mooji cooks. I like it. Tonight's

473
00:35:05,559 --> 00:35:08,920
topic is one of those ones. This is intimate theater

474
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:14,440
as long as you acting and performing, this is intimate theater.

475
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And we are opening up the phone lines because we

476
00:35:19,039 --> 00:35:22,280
want to hear from our callers. We want to ask

477
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them questions and see what their answers are. Precious, Yes,

478
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:29,920
are you ready for that?

479
00:35:30,199 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 4: Yes?

480
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,159
Speaker 3: The number to die one eight hundred nine twenty fifteen eighty.

481
00:35:33,199 --> 00:35:38,280
Get to your phone lines right now. What role are

482
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:44,599
you playing in your relationship? Are you the director? Writer? Actor?

483
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,039
Are you like prince? Do you do all of you?

484
00:35:47,079 --> 00:35:50,559
Who are all the hats? And if so, why who

485
00:35:50,639 --> 00:35:53,280
wrote the script? And for what purpose? Was it you?

486
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Or the AI wound? I want to know one nine

487
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,559
twenty fifteen eighty. We got callers, Let's get them right now.

488
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Off the top of Jamaica Queen's New York Wiggy, Wiggy.

489
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Speaker 12: Hello, Hi Halloween, Hey Queen by Queen Pee? How how

490
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,239
has everybody in the comment section?

491
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:19,280
Speaker 3: Wiggy?

492
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,159
Speaker 12: We love tonight.

493
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 4: I loved y'all.

494
00:36:22,039 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 12: That's what I'm here. I'm not scared to call you.

495
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Why y'all don't call? What's so?

496
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:25,599
Speaker 5: Scar?

497
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Speaker 12: Come on?

498
00:36:26,519 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 3: Now, oh, are you ready for your question? Then here

499
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we go.

500
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Speaker 12: I have I have a jading in a very long time.

501
00:36:34,599 --> 00:36:40,599
Speaker 3: That's okay, but you got experience, right, Yes, okay, here's

502
00:36:40,599 --> 00:36:44,840
your question. If God keeps changing the scenery, the actors,

503
00:36:45,199 --> 00:36:51,360
the circumstances, and the emotional conditions of the play, why

504
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:55,519
does the same version of you keep showing up to

505
00:36:55,599 --> 00:36:57,159
perform the same part?

506
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Speaker 12: Ooh, I suspect that I haven't made any adjustment, and

507
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:17,280
therefore I am picking the same type of individual because

508
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:22,360
it's because it's me. It's something within me that I'm picking,

509
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:26,320
and I'm attrancing that to me, And so that person

510
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:32,800
comes and so I'm there. I'm dealing with whatever it

511
00:37:33,199 --> 00:37:39,320
falls within myself through them, and so that will continue

512
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until I, at some point realize what I'm doing. Then

513
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I'm gonna get a different result. But until I make

514
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that change. And because it had happened to me, because

515
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I can't pick it the same type, yes, because I

516
00:37:56,519 --> 00:38:01,840
was Yes, I was not aware of myself. I thought

517
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it was some kind of attraction, but it was actually

518
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:11,159
some kind of avoidance that I was actually attractive. I

519
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:14,800
was looking at them, but it was really all the

520
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time me mm hmm.

521
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Speaker 4: Indeed, indeed you know what, Wiggy, Wiggy, Wiggy growing nail

522
00:38:22,519 --> 00:38:26,480
on the head, Wiggy up in here, growing under our nose.

523
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 3: Yes, Wiggy, I love the transparency.

524
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:37,280
Speaker 12: Represent got the represents the Williams Queen and preston.

525
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:42,639
Speaker 4: The website with precious.

526
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:47,320
Speaker 3: With precious God. Come, I guess what you.

527
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Speaker 13: Uh?

528
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Speaker 12: Bring Jamaica queens into the house.

529
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, we love you, we love you, we love you.

530
00:38:58,079 --> 00:38:59,360
If you want to call us, I gotta do this.

531
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:03,360
Call us right now, fifteen eighty. Let's dip over to Denver, Colorado.

532
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:04,960
CALLI soul is in the calling.

533
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:08,079
Speaker 14: Good evening.

534
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:16,159
Speaker 12: Hey, queen, Hey queen, all right, it's going good evening.

535
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 3: Are you ready?

536
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,280
Speaker 14: I'm ready? How's here?

537
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:21,559
Speaker 13: Ball?

538
00:39:22,119 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 4: She said it like be be kind? So did you

539
00:39:26,079 --> 00:39:28,199
feel that? Hello?

540
00:39:29,599 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 14: I'm mainly learning tonight. So it's good that y'all ask

541
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for callers.

542
00:39:34,119 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 1: T'all can ask questions.

543
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Speaker 14: I'm like, I'm not, y'all got me listening and thinking.

544
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 4: I believe in you though. CALLI. I think you're gonna get.

545
00:39:43,599 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 3: This because it's Cali. I'm gonna do hey, because it's Cali.

546
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:56,280
It's gonna be a two part question, Okay, true or false?

547
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:06,679
The play reveals the mask. The script protects the mask, impermanence,

548
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:13,119
keeps threatening the masks survival. True or false? But then

549
00:40:13,199 --> 00:40:16,360
that's the true false piece. The second part of the

550
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:23,159
question is who might you discover yourself to be? If

551
00:40:23,159 --> 00:40:27,119
you stop confusing the protective character, you learn to play

552
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:32,000
with the conscious experiencing the play itself.

553
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:36,519
Speaker 4: What oh, I got a d D. Now one question

554
00:40:36,599 --> 00:40:40,519
at the time, I follow it?

555
00:40:40,679 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 3: Okay, again, deal with the deal with the first one?

556
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:49,599
True or false? The play, The play reveals the mass,

557
00:40:49,639 --> 00:40:55,480
the script protects the mask. Impermanence, keeps threatening the mask's survival.

558
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:56,599
True or false?

559
00:40:59,199 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 14: Keep threatening the mask survival. That's true?

560
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 15: Yeah, but why.

561
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:24,039
Speaker 14: Because we're the casting directors. I'm the casting directors. I've

562
00:41:24,079 --> 00:41:30,400
been calling lessons then to help me drop the mask,

563
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to reveal me to me.

564
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Speaker 3: She's trying to come with it a little bit.

565
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 14: Yeah, run those three questions again, please.

566
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,559
Speaker 3: All right, This is the second part of the question,

567
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,159
who might you discover yourself to be? If you stop

568
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:59,239
confusing the protective character, you learn to play with the

569
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consciousness experiencing the.

570
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:06,199
Speaker 14: Play again, the casting director, the co.

571
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Speaker 3: Creator, Why are you creating this experience for yourself.

572
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,599
Speaker 14: Yeah, oh, because I still got lessons to learn.

573
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 3: Let me tell you why this experiment is so amazing, because,

574
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as doctor Allen Berger stated a couple of weeks ago

575
00:42:27,039 --> 00:42:29,400
when he was on the show, you know, part of

576
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:33,559
my new book is saying we know the answers intellectually,

577
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:41,840
but experientially that's when that's where the rubber meets the road. Right.

578
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,960
So I'm listening and the callers are giving us the

579
00:42:45,079 --> 00:42:49,840
right answers. CALLI is giving us the right answers. But

580
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the question is is CALLI living the right answer?

581
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Speaker 14: I am now, I have been recently before. I was

582
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before I thought that things were out of my control

583
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and that God wasn't necessarily co creating with me as me.

584
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:13,639
I thought that God was something separate from me, doing

585
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:18,159
things to me things to me, Yes, yes, And I

586
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:23,599
realized I'm just the peace of God operating as God.

587
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So like I'm I'm I'm the creator of my world,

588
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of my experience.

589
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Speaker 4: I have the naming power.

590
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Speaker 14: I have the power of decision to change the way

591
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I see things and the way I experience them.

592
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Speaker 3: I'm going to hand you over the precious because I

593
00:43:45,119 --> 00:43:48,719
know when pressure, I could feel her shifting in her

594
00:43:49,119 --> 00:43:49,679
talk to me.

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm listening to her, and it's not that I disagree.

596
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:57,719
I actually agree. However, you said something that was very

597
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:01,920
key though. It's the experience, intial part that you have

598
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:06,840
to even identify that this is what's happening, right, that

599
00:44:07,519 --> 00:44:10,119
this is how I show up. And when we are

600
00:44:11,119 --> 00:44:15,880
experiencing things, we feel out of control. It's like a

601
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,719
person going to look for a job and they end

602
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,559
up in a job where the boss doesn't acknowledge them,

603
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,840
they're not getting adequate pay. So it feels like something

604
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:28,719
that's being done to us. And am I the god

605
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:33,239
of this? Am I the author of this? And indeed,

606
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but the part of us that is the god in

607
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that is the part that hasn't shown up yet.

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00:44:39,679 --> 00:44:42,119
Speaker 3: Oh wait a minute, it's underneath.

609
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Speaker 4: It's the underneath piece.

610
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Speaker 3: It's something that you have to tap into. Yes, and

611
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:52,920
it supersedes your sense of self, as in your the ego,

612
00:44:53,039 --> 00:44:57,000
the persona, the personality like absolutely, God is wearing the

613
00:44:57,079 --> 00:45:00,000
mask of you. Is what you're saying, say go go.

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Speaker 4: Because as the author, we can change the scene, right,

615
00:45:04,639 --> 00:45:09,239
we can add additional players, we could subtract players. But

616
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:13,719
as the creator, then we understand we could ditch the

617
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:19,000
freaking script and we can make this some other type

618
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:22,440
of theater. We can do, uh, what is that where

619
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:27,599
you improvise? We can do improvision and just do give

620
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:32,320
give something different. I mean like cosplay or like how

621
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improvisional where actors improvise. Oh yeah, right, where you give

622
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a storyline and then they get to show up. We

623
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,719
can change everything about it. That's the part of us

624
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:47,360
that enters in as creators. But most often we're showing

625
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,840
up as the author and the director and the casting agent.

626
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Speaker 3: And it is and I'm asking Cali and you, this

627
00:45:54,519 --> 00:45:58,960
is it us showing up or is it the one?

628
00:45:59,039 --> 00:46:00,599
It's our behind to us?

629
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Speaker 4: Now, it's a wound that we're over identifying with. We

630
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:06,079
think we are the womb.

631
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Speaker 3: If meeting another human being keeps an infant alive. How

632
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:21,760
could need possibly become the problem? At what point does

633
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:29,199
yesterday's necessary dependence becomes today's invisible demand that a lover

634
00:46:29,599 --> 00:46:35,119
finish a developmental job. Adulthood now requires you to finish

635
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:40,119
within yourself. Sure you needed your mother and she wasn't there.

636
00:46:40,559 --> 00:46:43,280
Sure you needed your dad and they were inconsistent or

637
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:49,800
whatever happened. But you're supposed to outgrow need. If you're

638
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:55,719
trying to walk into unconditional love, is that why it

639
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,000
doesn't exist?

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Speaker 4: It is so perplex you know because eventually, when you

641
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:10,000
get to an awakened state in your healing and mind,

642
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,920
you there's higher levels to go than that. You know,

643
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:19,119
in actualizing, you no longer feel in your pain. You know,

644
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:22,719
you don't experience the pain body of what the mother

645
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:27,000
didn't do. Right, you start to go beyond and feel,

646
00:47:27,599 --> 00:47:28,320
oh are we.

647
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're right there. I'm sorry, hold on, stay with

648
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,639
don go nowhere, Cally this y'all, don't gotta start. We

649
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:39,719
turned up when we come forward. More from this most

650
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:41,039
intriguing discussion.

651
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Speaker 16: So what we hold on consciousness and our intention of

652
00:47:47,159 --> 00:47:51,280
actually influences the total field. So what can we do

653
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for mankind? We can be the most forgiving, loving, understanding,

654
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:04,039
compassionate kind person. We can be towards all of life,

655
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:08,960
the reverence for all of life in all of its expressions.

656
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,719
A little black beetling on its back and his little lecture,

657
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:17,079
he's saying, help me, help me. You try to walk away,

658
00:48:17,119 --> 00:48:22,079
and you have to go back and turn them over. Why,

659
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:26,079
because that's what you have become. You have the option

660
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to say and squash them right there.

661
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Speaker 3: I hate beetles.

662
00:48:30,639 --> 00:48:34,639
Speaker 16: They stink, all right. So we have the option then

663
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at all times, at all times. And here we are

664
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on this planet, on this island, on some trajectory migratate

665
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and migration and evolutionary migration of our spirit. And here

666
00:48:50,079 --> 00:48:56,440
we bliss by our attitude all that we encountered. And

667
00:48:56,519 --> 00:48:59,079
so doing we raise the level of the sea. And

668
00:48:59,119 --> 00:49:02,000
by raising the lad level of the sea, these people

669
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,880
at the bottom of the maps are lifted up by

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the buoyand sea of the water, not by causing effect.

671
00:49:08,119 --> 00:49:13,000
Giving them money increases the poverty, Haiti. The more money

672
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:16,559
you gave them, the worst the poverty got. No, it's

673
00:49:16,599 --> 00:49:20,159
not money. It's a matter of consciousness. What causes people

674
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to be at the bottom is their level of consciousness.

675
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So what we do for all of mankind is to

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be as loving towards all of life as we can

677
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be thereby blessing all of mankind.

678
00:49:32,159 --> 00:49:34,760
Speaker 3: Oh man, that's doctor David R. Hawkings talking about the

679
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:39,679
consciousness grid, and he's basically saying, if you focus on

680
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:43,360
you raise your level of consciousness. And you're one of

681
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:49,679
tens of thousands that collective consciousness. That evolution, that raising

682
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:53,639
of consciousness will raise the lower levels of consciousness too,

683
00:49:54,159 --> 00:49:56,920
because they're on planet Earth with us. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Indeed, during the pandemic, when me, well, I got a message,

685
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I'm sure a lot of people who divine got messages.

686
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And I asked the spirit what is it that we

687
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do in the face of a globally devastating experience? The

688
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:16,000
spirit said B. I'm like, B, what be light? And

689
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sage B praying spear said just B because it raises

690
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the vibration of the collective for you to just be.

691
00:50:23,639 --> 00:50:26,800
It's like when you go to a metaphysical gathering and

692
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:28,960
then there's people in the back of the room in

693
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silent meditation. They're not doing anything other than raising the

694
00:50:33,679 --> 00:50:38,039
vibration so that the message can not just come through

695
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but intercept. You're being.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but see, so many people add three more letters

697
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:48,199
to be us y. They get busy, too busy, and

698
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:55,800
being literally requires awareness, which is consciousness. Right, and again,

699
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:59,440
most people have to do something, But the wound needs

700
00:50:59,519 --> 00:51:05,239
that d You see, the wound is saying I need

701
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:08,480
this to be fulfilled. This needs to come in and

702
00:51:08,519 --> 00:51:11,679
once I get it, I'll be satiated. But only momentarily

703
00:51:12,679 --> 00:51:16,599
being is understanding that I am whole in the moment, right,

704
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:20,719
And if I can stay in this space longer, if

705
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:25,559
I can expand the walls of that interval of time, yeah, right,

706
00:51:25,639 --> 00:51:30,199
I can raise up consciously and I can literally change.

707
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:32,840
But I don't think people want to change. That's that,

708
00:51:33,199 --> 00:51:33,440
you know.

709
00:51:33,639 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, And the truth of the matter is is we

710
00:51:36,519 --> 00:51:42,920
don't need for a single event to happen outside of ourself.

711
00:51:43,559 --> 00:51:47,000
These events that are outside of ourselves are calling us

712
00:51:47,119 --> 00:51:52,400
back inward because this is where the true realization and

713
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:54,079
transformation happens.

714
00:51:54,079 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 3: In turns, you're telling me we've been outside.

715
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:58,199
Speaker 4: I'm outside.

716
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:02,199
Speaker 3: Hey, we've been outside. Listen. When we come forward, you

717
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:04,039
already know on the other side, were getting ready to

718
00:52:04,119 --> 00:52:06,440
land a plane. Y'all call in so we can ask

719
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:08,719
you questions. The number dout one eight hundred nine twenty

720
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:10,239
fifteen eighty black boy.

721
00:52:10,119 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 17: Black light and shadows dancing together. That's how I see

722
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:18,199
the siliverse. And if you love him, he will show

723
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:20,440
it to you. It's the most.

724
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:25,559
Speaker 18: Strange experience that no human tongue can tell only by

725
00:52:25,639 --> 00:52:32,039
experiencing loving God. This whole show is to love Him,

726
00:52:32,119 --> 00:52:33,639
and everybody is our own one.

727
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:36,039
Speaker 5: We love him, Love him with.

728
00:52:36,119 --> 00:52:40,079
Speaker 18: All your heart, and do not be tempted. God's greatest

729
00:52:40,079 --> 00:52:45,800
temptation is sex, wine, and money. And if you can

730
00:52:46,559 --> 00:52:49,559
do your best with all your mind and your heart,

731
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:54,400
never have anything there but the love of God. And

732
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:57,719
God will tempt you very much, But do not ail

733
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,719
to his temptation if you want him. And if you

734
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:05,079
want him, surely he shall take away the delusion. And

735
00:53:05,199 --> 00:53:09,519
there is no comparison between temptation and God. But I

736
00:53:09,599 --> 00:53:14,679
wait temptation and God, and I found him more tempting

737
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:19,199
than temptation. So in the glory of that joy, in

738
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:22,800
the glory of that communion, I know the whole world

739
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:26,800
forsakes me. He will never forsake me. The whole world

740
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:30,840
arouds me. I will be nothing better. Praise does not

741
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:34,840
make me better, not brain make me less. I am

742
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:39,079
what I am, before my conscience, before the two souls

743
00:53:39,199 --> 00:53:41,199
that think of me and know me as I am,

744
00:53:42,039 --> 00:53:43,280
and before my father.

745
00:53:45,119 --> 00:53:52,559
Speaker 3: So man par Mahanza Yogananda, Oh yes, yes, now see

746
00:53:52,599 --> 00:53:56,440
Parmahnsa was known for being in a state of divine

747
00:53:56,599 --> 00:54:02,519
ecstasy when he entered that Samedi state of meditation, like

748
00:54:02,599 --> 00:54:06,159
he taps into the communion of the higher consciousness. Right,

749
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:13,039
What I'm proposing here is that intimate relationship is designed

750
00:54:13,079 --> 00:54:17,199
to lead you into the inner path. But often we

751
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:23,320
have built relationships around our needs. Right, we don't understand

752
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:27,440
that we're in a divine play that is designed to

753
00:54:27,559 --> 00:54:31,760
get us back to a state of self remembrance and

754
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:35,400
that self that S is with a capital S, not

755
00:54:35,519 --> 00:54:39,559
the small egoic self that you know, that that is

756
00:54:40,079 --> 00:54:43,559
merged and enmeshed into this wound identity that we have

757
00:54:44,159 --> 00:54:47,159
that gives us our entitlements, our judgments and all of that.

758
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:52,480
But I believe that there's this higher level. Right, We've

759
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:54,920
got Cali Soul on the line, and I definitely want

760
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:56,960
to ask her another question, and I want to get

761
00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:00,280
your answer on it too, CALLI are you on the

762
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:00,880
line with us?

763
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 14: I'm still here.

764
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 3: I gotta go. Great question. M you ready?

765
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:09,400
Speaker 4: Yes, sir?

766
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:12,559
Speaker 3: When you say my partner should make me feel safe,

767
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:19,119
what amount of that statement describes intimacy and what amount

768
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:24,400
assigns another adult responsibility for your internal regulation?

769
00:55:27,599 --> 00:55:32,320
Speaker 14: All of it makes another adult responsibility responsible for your

770
00:55:33,039 --> 00:55:36,679
internal regulation. It's not a good idea.

771
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 3: But isn't that the way relationship is designed? A good

772
00:55:41,559 --> 00:55:47,480
partner is supposed to come in and kind of take

773
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:48,440
the edge off of you.

774
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:50,840
Speaker 4: We're socialized to believe that.

775
00:55:51,159 --> 00:55:55,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, m hm, talk to me, ladies. You guys have

776
00:55:55,599 --> 00:55:56,000
the floor.

777
00:55:56,599 --> 00:55:59,760
Speaker 4: We're socialized to believe that. But that is a relationship

778
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:05,280
different in different parts of the world. Right, Even the

779
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:11,320
concept of marrying for love, that is a very Western thing.

780
00:56:11,679 --> 00:56:16,400
It's usually more of a practical decision as you you know,

781
00:56:16,519 --> 00:56:23,199
reach out to other countries. But it's it's an impossibility

782
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:25,119
because safety is not real.

783
00:56:26,039 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 3: And because of impermanence.

784
00:56:28,559 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 4: Well yes, well it's in perception tight like we perceive

785
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:37,440
that we are safe. But if we find out that

786
00:56:37,519 --> 00:56:41,760
somebody put ten pounds of bombs up under the building,

787
00:56:42,159 --> 00:56:45,039
you're gonna find out how safe you really are. Right,

788
00:56:45,599 --> 00:56:51,360
But what we can achieve is sacredness, right with how

789
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:56,360
we treat a connection, and that also gets you to

790
00:56:56,639 --> 00:57:01,599
treat the relationship different. How does it to have all

791
00:57:01,679 --> 00:57:06,039
of these rules when it's about sacredness versus safety?

792
00:57:06,679 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 3: I need you, guys, I need you both to expound

793
00:57:09,159 --> 00:57:18,480
on this idea of sacredness. Is it's sacredness something that

794
00:57:18,599 --> 00:57:22,679
is that can only be found in the now? Oh yeah,

795
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:23,280
talk to me.

796
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, there's presence. And for something to be sacred,

797
00:57:31,559 --> 00:57:35,119
you have to be able to have enough reverence to

798
00:57:35,239 --> 00:57:40,079
achieve presence, right, But for something to be safe, you

799
00:57:40,079 --> 00:57:43,119
got to lock it up, keep it away from other people.

800
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:46,920
So if a relationship is sacred, it's not that you're

801
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:50,280
keeping it away from other people. It's how you approach

802
00:57:51,679 --> 00:57:55,760
The connection is with sacredness, with reverence. You see what

803
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:59,360
I'm saying, and so other people have access to it,

804
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:01,039
so it don't have control over it.

805
00:58:01,719 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 3: Is also a secret, No, that's.

806
00:58:05,599 --> 00:58:09,719
Speaker 14: How we've been trained. Though sacred is secret.

807
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 8: No, that's not truth, but.

808
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:21,239
Speaker 4: It's not the truth. Sacred is not a secret noyes

809
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:22,320
from everyone.

810
00:58:22,719 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 14: Yes, it's like people turn into Egel.

811
00:58:25,559 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 19: Like, oh and I cannot you know, I bet not

812
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:34,199
be trying to share you with nobody.

813
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:41,599
Speaker 3: I did not trying to share you with Who's.

814
00:58:42,599 --> 00:58:45,519
Speaker 19: That's danger, you know, like the way we've been trained,

815
00:58:45,559 --> 00:58:48,840
that's danger. And what's interesting about the question you asked

816
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:58,159
about letting someone else be responsible or your internal experience

817
00:58:58,559 --> 00:59:01,760
what you want to experience. When I did that, I

818
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:06,880
was so miserable and I couldn't even understand why.

819
00:59:07,519 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 3: Let's go deeper let's go deeper. Let's go deeper as

820
00:59:11,519 --> 00:59:16,039
as women. Do you need your needs Matt?

821
00:59:17,079 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 4: If so, why, well, it depends on what type of needs.

822
00:59:23,559 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 3: About stop pressure, halloweens stop. You know.

823
00:59:36,199 --> 00:59:38,559
Speaker 4: How older that you get, the less you need you

824
00:59:38,639 --> 00:59:42,079
know what I mean. It's just like there's things that

825
00:59:42,119 --> 00:59:47,880
I prefer for my comfort, but no, can I say

826
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:50,559
it like this. The best thing that somebody's ever done

827
00:59:50,599 --> 00:59:54,000
for me in an intimate setting was to let me

828
00:59:54,079 --> 00:59:57,719
be free, let me show give me the space to

829
00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:01,000
be free. I mean, I can talk to you about

830
01:00:01,039 --> 01:00:05,679
anything because there are no rules. It's a sacred space

831
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:12,119
that is created versus safety.

832
01:00:12,199 --> 01:00:16,039
Speaker 3: So that's like the the video I sent you guys

833
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:22,480
on Instagram where that dog was running crazy in a circle,

834
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:26,719
and I was like, this is the type of environment

835
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:30,519
that women need in order to feel.

836
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:32,159
Speaker 4: Something, oh right, right, right right?

837
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 3: Yes. And I wasn't saying like women were dogs a dog.

838
01:00:36,559 --> 01:00:39,079
It wasn't a dog. It was like a rabbit or something.

839
01:00:39,079 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 4: It was, yes, I think it was. It was some

840
01:00:41,559 --> 01:00:44,280
kind of animal. But it's like this when you let

841
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:48,119
children right, not to say that people are children, but

842
01:00:48,159 --> 01:00:51,800
when you let a child free in their environments, Yes,

843
01:00:52,199 --> 01:00:57,679
they actually have less chance of injuring themselves because they

844
01:00:57,679 --> 01:01:01,400
get to experience the room. If you let them walk ahead,

845
01:01:01,519 --> 01:01:07,559
you'll learn they learn their own natural safety zone or

846
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:11,519
what is permissible. But it's from letting them go, not

847
01:01:11,679 --> 01:01:14,320
by keeping them. I mean. And don't get me wrong,

848
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:16,320
I would love to put a leash on my grandson

849
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:18,599
because they just love them so much. I don't want

850
01:01:18,639 --> 01:01:23,559
them to get away. But the reality is it's better

851
01:01:23,599 --> 01:01:27,079
to let his parents are pretty good about allowing him

852
01:01:27,079 --> 01:01:31,320
to explore his environment, so he's learned what's okay and

853
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:32,440
what's not okay.

854
01:01:32,719 --> 01:01:37,679
Speaker 3: You guys know this conversation is radical encountering. Yeah, right, yeah,

855
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:41,880
because we've been taught in reverse. You show up, you

856
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:49,599
provide for me internally, externally, and it's this constant recip right. Yeah.

857
01:01:50,079 --> 01:01:54,440
But the reality of it is, maybe we've we've gotten

858
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:56,280
it wrong backwards.

859
01:01:57,320 --> 01:02:00,000
Speaker 4: See that's the thing. When you say wrong, it's the judge.

860
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:03,639
Maybe that was the necessary for us to be able

861
01:02:03,679 --> 01:02:06,280
to evolve into the space. Maybe we needed to have

862
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:09,360
it backwards, you know, like we were saying Andy, no right,

863
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:09,920
no wrong.

864
01:02:10,039 --> 01:02:12,360
Speaker 3: It's just is I like that.

865
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:18,039
Speaker 4: You know, And so it's those experiences that maybe didn't

866
01:02:18,039 --> 01:02:21,119
feel so good that I really appreciate because it helped

867
01:02:21,159 --> 01:02:24,119
me get to the center of who I am.

868
01:02:24,159 --> 01:02:26,320
Speaker 3: We're cooking with the Rads, Grease. Don't go nowhere, Cali,

869
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:28,360
I got another question for you on the other side.

870
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:31,119
Listen when we come forward. More from Cali from Denver,

871
01:02:31,199 --> 01:02:35,559
Colorado and Precious. It's homeless Wednesdays and we've been cooking

872
01:02:35,599 --> 01:02:37,079
with the Raris Grease.

873
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:46,159
Speaker 13: Everyone is such a and I have to tell her

874
01:02:46,239 --> 01:02:50,000
something about glove. I just have made the video service

875
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:54,039
about it. Now, everybody knows about the word love, but

876
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:57,719
people put different meanings to it. But to all us

877
01:02:57,719 --> 01:03:03,760
think that love it's all about molecule molecules, Like the

878
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:09,719
major molecules are dopamine and boxycin and thin. Is it

879
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:14,400
just a play of molecules? Others think not, because you know,

880
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:19,920
fluff falls apart except for the romantic fast when they

881
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:23,000
come out of it, it falls apart in no time.

882
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:26,480
Speaker 3: So if it was just molecules, okay, you know, I

883
01:03:26,599 --> 01:03:32,039
love emit. Goswami. Now it's a theoretical physicist, you know,

884
01:03:32,159 --> 01:03:37,000
and he deals deeply with consciousness. But we ain't got

885
01:03:37,079 --> 01:03:42,400
time to go through the depth of what he's saying,

886
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:47,199
and then the heavy accent in the show. I could

887
01:03:47,239 --> 01:03:50,639
do it, but late in the show. No, not late

888
01:03:50,719 --> 01:03:54,039
in the show. We're gonna play that same clip tomorrow

889
01:03:54,719 --> 01:03:58,840
early where we can sit down and process. But I

890
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:01,920
hear what he's saying. He's gonna get into the consciousness

891
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:04,800
of it. We got Cali Soul on the line from Difver, Colorado.

892
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:08,199
I have a final question for Cali before we land

893
01:04:08,239 --> 01:04:17,400
the plane. Man, this is interesting. How much jealousy, control, possession, resentment, bargaining,

894
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:25,119
and abandon and abandonment terror grows logically from one single belief? Now,

895
01:04:25,199 --> 01:04:32,000
this belief I'm about to share is suppose psychological need

896
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:40,280
begins with one hidden premise something outside me must happen

897
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:48,480
before I can become whole. So how much jealousy, control, possession, resentment, bargaining,

898
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:52,480
and abandonment terror grows logically from that single belief?

899
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:54,280
Speaker 14: All of it?

900
01:04:55,639 --> 01:04:59,440
Speaker 3: Yikes? Have you ever experienced it? Oh?

901
01:04:59,519 --> 01:05:00,280
Speaker 5: Yeah?

902
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:01,400
Speaker 14: Oh yeah?

903
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:04,119
Speaker 3: Well how do you fight that off? You know that

904
01:05:04,159 --> 01:05:06,440
Memoris say, I'm fighting for my life, he fighting for

905
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:09,880
his life. How do you fight that off? That feeling

906
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:14,199
of oh my god, the resentment, abandonment, this terror, that

907
01:05:14,719 --> 01:05:16,599
I'm not enough. How do you fight all of that

908
01:05:16,679 --> 01:05:19,960
off in order to get back into this kind of integrated,

909
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:20,800
healed space.

910
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:23,760
Speaker 4: I don't know that you should be fighting it off.

911
01:05:24,519 --> 01:05:26,440
If you have to fight it off, you haven't arrived

912
01:05:27,519 --> 01:05:30,719
wherever you are, be all there because it won't be

913
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:36,400
a struggle, you know, just witness it. It's like that

914
01:05:36,599 --> 01:05:40,000
how I was saying, allowing the baby to explore the room.

915
01:05:40,239 --> 01:05:43,239
It's really the best way for them to know what

916
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:47,480
works and what doesn't, versus you know, having the baby

917
01:05:48,559 --> 01:05:51,360
be so disciplined that it doesn't get to experience life.

918
01:05:51,719 --> 01:05:53,719
It's an eventuality.

919
01:05:54,079 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 3: I love that, Kelly. So you know you did your

920
01:05:56,880 --> 01:06:00,000
thing today. I'm very proud of you with this experiment.

921
01:06:00,639 --> 01:06:03,920
You're very transparent and open. So it leads me to

922
01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:08,920
ask you this one final question. All right, guess what

923
01:06:09,039 --> 01:06:09,960
you just did?

924
01:06:10,199 --> 01:06:16,280
Speaker 14: Chad Oh, I can answer this question easy. I bought

925
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:17,400
Denver into the building.

926
01:06:17,639 --> 01:06:23,639
Speaker 3: Denvergh Colorado in the building. Thank you for this was great, great, great.

927
01:06:24,119 --> 01:06:28,000
I always love Holness Wednesdays because we get to dig

928
01:06:28,079 --> 01:06:34,840
deep into the spiritual and philosophical and metaphysical topics. I

929
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:39,119
will say this, my patience is growing thin for my

930
01:06:39,239 --> 01:06:48,920
people tell me I am profit Elijah of relationships. I

931
01:06:49,039 --> 01:06:55,079
only pop out to tell you when you're headed for disaster, right, Hey,

932
01:06:55,119 --> 01:06:57,239
the end of the world's coming. We better pull it

933
01:06:57,280 --> 01:07:00,320
together if we're gonna get right. I do belie leave

934
01:07:00,519 --> 01:07:05,679
that relationship is the catalyst for individuation. And I think

935
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:10,800
people are misusing it, right, they're using it for leisure

936
01:07:11,159 --> 01:07:17,280
and pleasure. And you know, escapism and this isn't This

937
01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:24,400
is a relationship is a spiritual technology for the access

938
01:07:24,599 --> 01:07:28,840
to higher consciousness, for recommunion with God. I think that's

939
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:32,599
what relationship is actually for. And we've turned it into

940
01:07:32,679 --> 01:07:39,320
a damn escapist resort. Your final thought on that you

941
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:40,480
got eighties.

942
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Speaker 4: Eight It is, indeed, but that's a part of it, right.

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Even we shouldn't be attached to the timing or the outcome,

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because spiritually speaking, there is no time that's linear and

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the outcome. All roads lead to God, so.

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Speaker 3: All roll lead to God. Now you might have to

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go through the hood.

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Speaker 4: Gotta go through the hood.

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Speaker 3: You might have to go through.

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Speaker 4: The woods, the woods.

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Speaker 3: I love it. And you know what, we start the conversation.

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Speaker 4: It's up to you to finish it, hey, and.

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Speaker 3: I really want you guys to go support Precious Miguil.

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I want everybody to bum rush her website.

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Speaker 4: With precious dot com.

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Speaker 3: There you go. Hey, I'll be back tomorrow with another

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slaper of the VR does what he does. We keep cooking,

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love y'all, See y'all tomorrow, Deuces