Speaker 1: We have a question from Doylene Taiprobu and he's asking,
if we say that Mahaprabu and Nityananda Prabu are the
most merciful avatars of Bagawan, why Mahaprabu was so strict
with Choda Harri Doas for me, it's the kind of
scandalous that Mahapabu got satisfied with his suicide. And why
did Janando prop got so angry with Shivananda because he
was late. Please explain these two pastimes Choda Harry does
chastisement and Nityananda Prabu kicking shivanandas.
Speaker 2: So we have to understand the word meaning li lah pastimes.
There is our divine pastimes. Just like in a movie,
a play, a drama, there has to be some dramatic
tension so that the and ones, the heroic aspect can
rise and be seen, be in the spotlight the heroic
aspect and Leelah means devotion. The connecting thread between all
these pastimes is the spotlight will be shin, will shine
on devotion. That is what is important. So in the
case of Chota hearted Us, we see for not only
what we call it a minor offense, really no offense
at all, and that underscores the importance of this pastime.
We're told that he on the plea of begging round
from Harperable, he approached one lady Andy.
Speaker 3: He keeps sucking his teeth. I don't like the way
he talking. I like spiritual talk. But did he just
have woodies or something? You see? And what had happened
was with marhapaboots. Listen, it's holdness Wednesday. The voice of
reason has returned to the scene of the conversation, and
he brought his right and eye in the building. You
already know who's here, precious Miguel, that's in the building.
Speaker 4: How y'all doing.
Speaker 3: Tonight's topic is a heavy one, and he was about
to broach it. He just kept.
Speaker 4: Getting that barbecue out of his teeth.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't like it, but to get in the moxtails.
Let me tell you so, tonight's topic is deep because
we've heard this topic in many different ways, but not
quite like this. H you've heard Shakespeare The world is
a stage, right, everybody has their interests entrance and exit right.
The world is a play. I heard Guru say something
about his miracles before Guru by the name of Setya
Sai Baba and you know Rod Sterling and all these
people like studied this guy. Okay, scientists went to live
with him and study him because of the sheer, mass
and volume and value of the things he was materializing
out of thin air.
Speaker 4: Oh wow, I've heard yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 3: Yes, documented guy, and well it's interesting. He said to
the scientists. He used the Sanskrit term leila. He said,
the miracles are my leila. And then the scientists was like, well,
we don't speak can do or Sanskrit, so what is that?
And he said, leila means play sport, right, my divine play.
He said, if you were to understand the immensity of
my being, you would see that the miracles are like
a mosquito on the back of an elephant. So he
was explaining this stuff to these scientists and I was like, oh,
this is it the intimate leela or divine play? M right.
We jump into these relationships for a purpose to play
a role that maybe we are unaware mostly right of
which role we're supposed to play or why we're there. Right,
the intimate leela divine play trying to stabilize intimate impermanence
oh my God. In Sanskrit, leela means play, sport, or
divine play. In Hindu philosophy, it describes how the entire
universe and all existence are created by the Divine out
of spontaneous joy and freedom, rather than necessity or need.
So the question became, what if God provides the mirrored
intimate play i e. The relationship while conditioning our conditioning
our wounds, writes the protective false self script, we keep
performing inside of this divine play called relationships? Right? What
if the thing you keep demanding from the person in
front of you is the exact capacity life is calling
you to reclaim within yourself a divine play. So you
got to play this thing out pretty much. You got
to get in it with somebody and figure out why
you were attracted to that person, And oh, here we go.
What if the person you called the love of your
life entered carrying the key to the place where you
still believe you are incomplete? Human beings begin life dependent
That dependence is innocent. A child requires regulation, protection, recognition, touch, present,
and care. When those needs remain unfinished, adulthood can inherit
more than pain. It can inherit an assignment find somebody
who will finally make the old absence stop hurting. Then
attraction can feel like destiny because conditioning recognizes a familiar
role before consciousness recognizes the script. The divine mirrored intimate
play forces another free changing human being close enough to
activate what solitude can keep hidden. Their distance can uncover abandonment.
Independence can expose control. A boundary can reveal entitlement. Desire
can expose the hunger to be chosen. Change can uncover
the fear beneath your demand for permanence. See the fear
needs permanence. Don't leave, don't go. That's coming from home.
Uh oh, so you mean to tell me the relationship
is a divine play designed to take you back home
so you can break up with home so you can
now move forward in an unconditioned talk to me, precious,
it's the short.
Speaker 4: End the long of it. Essentially, it's the short end,
the lung of it. And it is the divine piece
about it is it's a default that we have right
We subconsciously, unknowingly choose the precise brand of pain that
we're healing from. Now Here's the thing about it is,
the closer we get to remedying ourselves of that pain.
It might get real ugly, right, So it may manifest
in certain ways, like, for example, you could have a
guy that has a mother that is dealing with mental
health challenges and she's undiagnosed and she is wreaking havoc
on the family, and his sole desire from age eight
is to get out of dodge, start a life of
his own, not be in a space where he has
to be subject to that energy from a woman. And
so he's playboy, play around, not really attaching, which is
also avoiding. And then he gets to a place where
he feels like, you know, I'm you know, in my forties.
Now I want to kind of start to settle down
or I want to think about settling down, and so
he begins to choose, and then it's like, look, I'm
finally being good to this person and she's talking to
me crazy, she's speaking about things that have no clue
about Well, you are for her her trauma, she is
for you yours, right. And it's not until you enter
into relationship where these types of dynamics start to play out,
Because if you're just touching go, you're avoiding connection, you're
going for feeling got me, and it's like, what did
I do? Actually, you did nothing. She's being triggered by
her trauma, but what you're witnessing in her is yours.
Speaker 3: Oh Lord, here go to question is what if the
person you thought broad God sent to you?
Speaker 4: Oh my God, I would say that God did send
them to you.
Speaker 3: Wait, let me give it a questions. What if the
person you thought God sent to complete you was fine
tuned to expose the part of you that still believed
completion was necessary.
Speaker 4: And I would say they are got a godsend because
they expose, They peel back the layers that you are
dealing with. So you know, a person could feel abandoned
and there is no abandonment there because this person is
triggering it for you. Maybe they're a secure attached, securely
attached person and they don't walk around with their phone
in their hands, so you know they didn't even see
that you called here. It is hours later you didne
crashed out right. Well, if I could just get you
to be more mindful that I'm going to be calling,
tend to your phone so that I won't have to
experience this. No, you mind your business. You tend to
whatever is coming up with you because I'm triggering it,
but I'm not doing it.
Speaker 3: Gosh, did God write a role script a role for you?
Speaker 4: No, I would say aloud.
Speaker 3: Here we go. We can't stay right there, don't go nowhere.
We cook it, and we cook it. When the voice
of reason returns, Holeness Wednesday, gonna turn the heat up
on the grail. Let's go.
Speaker 5: The truth of face, not living delusions.
Speaker 3: Were about to get cussed out.
Speaker 2: And.
Speaker 5: Without delusions, it's very difficult to observe.
Speaker 6: For gludy yourself and not fashing actualities. Then you said,
becomes impossible to recut once.
Speaker 5: I sped. But we like delos, salusions everybody form of deception.
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 6: Because you have flicked to look at ourselves, as we said,
to look out ourselves very clearly, accurately, precisely.
Speaker 5: It's only possible in a mirror of relationship. That's the
only mirror that we have.
Speaker 6: When you look at yourself, we have combed your hair,
shaving or doing whatever you're doing to your face.
Speaker 3: Sorry, ay Man, Marty, I told you he was going. Gosh,
so again, relationship. The only mirror you have is what
he said, This divine Leela, this play Shakespeare, The world
is a stage. Everybody has their entrance and their exits, right,
So the intimate relationship who wrote the script?
Speaker 4: When you say the intimate, you mean between two people.
Speaker 3: Between two people, between a family, friend groups, soul groups,
because there's conflict there.
Speaker 4: Have you ever heard of the concept of co creators?
We are co creators, right, We are in creation with God,
expanding through experience, right, Like Jim Hendrick say, are you experienced? Right?
It's the It's not about being good, it's about the learning.
It's about the expansion, you know, being intentional, about healing
the part of your life that you had no control
over with the exception of you choosing this experience. I'm
a soul standpoint, you know. But even the time that
we spend unintentional and just following our feelings of being
in love, you know, that high of being in love,
there's something divine about that too, because you learn at
some point that feeling for me became like a red flag, like, uh,
you know, that's feeling real good. But let me pay attention,
you know, because I'm a lover girl. I love love,
but it means something vastly different to me now than
it did when I was twenty five. Oh right, because
I've done a lot of expanding learning, and when you
first start that learning process, you are looking at your partner,
so you can kind of like how we talked about
the wound vetting, so you can make a different choice.
And then what you realize is what you have to
choose is yourself, gosh right, not yourself and other people,
but paying attention in choosing yourself and honoring yourself in relationship,
not avoiding them, but honoring yourself inside relationship.
Speaker 3: What if the relationship keeps changing because the play is alive,
while the same relationship keeps repeating because the false self
refuses to improvise. When we come forward the voice of reason,
we're gonna keep this barbecue.
Speaker 7: I came up with a way of understanding this what
I would call this magnetic attraction of personality types. And
what I what I what I what I created is
what we all already know. I came up with an explanation,
a word created for something that fits our own experience,
that there is a personality type match that pulls people
together into a real relationship, whether it's healthy a relationship
attraction or unhealthy relationship attraction. And in the case of
a codependent, someone who is connected to everyone else's needs
over their own is seemingly and always attracted to someone
who is a narcissist who's always connected to their own needs.
Speaker 5: Just like a.
Speaker 7: Professional dancing couple, we think about if they're going to
dance for a living, their roles must be perfectly matched.
You cannot have two people leading a dance because it's
just won't happen. There's gonna be a tug of pull.
You can't have two people following in a dance because
they're going to step on each other's toes. For this
dancing experience to work, you have to have a perfect
matching of opposite roles. And for a dysfunctional relationship to work,
to come together, and to stay together, there has to
be a perfect pairing of dysfunctional opposite. The person who
is a natural caregiver, who reflexively loves, cares, and respects
for others at the expense of their own always, and
I really mean always, is that I'm that specific and confident,
is always unconsciously attracted to someone who's all about their
own needs, who need someone to love, respect, and care
for themselves. These two opposites don't know that one is
a narcissist and the other is a codependent. They just
fall in love. It's chemistry. But in reality, what we
find out in these relationships it could only work, the
attraction could only work, and then the persistence, the stability
of this dysfunctional relationship stays because the codependent matches perfectly
with the narcissist. The caregiver needs a care needer, and
without the two, the relationship would not last. It's paradoxical.
Speaker 3: It come on Rossenburg something there, that's Ross Rossenberg from
the human Magnet syndrome. And you know he had to
clinicalize Christian Emerti's relationship as a mirror. There you go,
that's all The relationship is a mirror, right.
Speaker 4: But I like the context of it, yeah, he cooked, Yeah,
because it begs the question, well, what role are you
playing in the relationship? Your partner's this, your partner's that,
your partner's this? What about you?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 4: And if you can get to the what about you?
That's effective that's where work can be done.
Speaker 3: And then who wrote your script? This is a divine
play because because you hear people say this all the time, right,
you chose this reality before you came here. You chose
the parents, you chose the situations and what you're going
to go through. You chose all of this because you
wanted expansion and growth, and you wanted to be able
to return back to your true self that is devoid
of all of the stuff you went through when you
chose this life. This is growth. This is God rediscovering
different parts of itself while already knowing the journey, while
revealing the journey to the un known parts of it.
Do you see how this works? So if that is
the case, who wrote the script and why and why
are you playing this out?
Speaker 7: So?
Speaker 4: I from my perspective, it's a part of the soul's journey.
It's carrying over karmic lessons. You know, it's to me
a little lazy when people say I just want what
God wants from me. Well, perfect, God wants for you
what you want for you, So what do you want right?
Those needs, wants, desires, the behavior, the situation predestined not
by God, well by God, but the part of you
that is the nation of God, that is choosing the
soul lessons that are carried over and over like for example,
without getting on your head too much there's someone that
I know that you know, and there's a deep soul
connection there. Right, There's been lifetimes of this type of connection.
You can't get away from it. Even if you stop
seeing the person in this lifetime, you will see them
in the next. This is why there's a part of
us that feels drawn to a person. Right. I know
that I've had very few but very intense connections with
a very few people, and it doesn't really make sense
why I will be in connection with this person, right,
But there's something to the soul. There's something that the
soul is attempting to learn. And when we're in the
soul state, without the body, without the being, right, we
are just the soul. In a soul state, these agreements
are much more amicable. Hey, I need you to disappoint
me in this next lifetime.
Speaker 3: Can you do that for me? I got same up,
I got you. I got a good disappointment, yeah, right right, yes.
Speaker 4: And in relationship to our last experiences together, it might
help balance me out if we go in this way,
you know. And this is why I tell people when
they ask the question, am I gonna end up with
my person? That remains to be seen?
Speaker 3: But to me. That's womb talk.
Speaker 4: It is the wound talk.
Speaker 3: That's womb talk.
Speaker 4: It's because it's attachment, because.
Speaker 3: The wound is like permanence, stability, consistency, don't change. All
of that's born out of need. When you start dealing
with the higher levels of consciousness, need goes away.
Speaker 4: Yeah. It you enter in a space where I use
to wonder why they would say this. If you love something,
you'll set it free right now?
Speaker 3: You know? Right now?
Speaker 4: I know because I'm working at setting people free, loving
and setting people free, even in an intimate connection. It's like,
allow this person to be who they are without my expectations.
So I won't run down to a person what it
is I need from you? Well, tell me what you need. No,
and now, because I'm trying to play a game, I
don't want to manipulate you out of your experience of
being show up authentically.
Speaker 3: Intimate, mirrored, divine, orchestrated leila.
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh my goodness.
Speaker 3: This is a miracle God put together so that we
could discover the God in us, the needlessness in us.
When we come forward the voice of reason on wholeness Wednesdays,
when Precious Miguil, we gonna keep God again.
Speaker 8: The question is about intimate relationships, how to how to
how to leave these relationships from this pure love and
not like in my personal experience, it's always coming back
to the ID identification as soon as I it doesn't
come from pure love. And in the end, of course,
I'm disappointed because I have projections and.
Speaker 3: I have a.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I need something from from the person, and it
seems like and since I'm disappointed, I go back to
this advitor. I said to myself, Okay, I withdraw and
that's where I really feel the piece of my true beating.
But it seems like there is something something, yeah, something missing, well,
like as if I'm cutting some part of life.
Speaker 9: I think the Church of England should rewrite their wedding
vows and instead of vowing to obey and all that
we should, we should take a vow to love each
other unconditionally, which is simply another way of stating that
the prior nature of our shared being, we don't actually
have to vow. It's an acknowledgment of what is already
the case, an acknowledgment of the fact that behind our
differing thoughts and feelings and sometimes conflictual activities and ways
of relating a being as shed That would be the first.
Speaker 3: Get professor snape out of here.
Speaker 4: Six and one hand, half a dozen and another.
Speaker 3: I mean, what in the Hogwarts relationship advice, I see
what he was trying to get at. Yeah, and I
even understand her question. But she's highlighting something that I
keep saying. This is why it's a divine play. You
think you need something? Yes, she was labeling it. I'm
looking for this person because of something I need, and
this is why I call need the original sin. So
now I have the question, what if your relationships have
been telling you you the truth about you that your
identity right currently has been organized to conceal. So you
had to become somebody to survive the somebody's that molded you.
Speaker 4: Yes, indeed.
Speaker 3: So now when you get into a relationship and it's
operating as a mirror, it's exposing to somebody you had
to become, and it's saying, oh, no, no, no, I
don't want to date that. There's something on the other side.
Is that you? Who is that? Talk to me?
Speaker 4: It's more of a this, right, it's the rub that
you feel. The rub is what you're in relationship with.
I've been disrespected. I've been abandoned. I've been hurt. They
don't value me. I self abandon I don't value myself.
I don't respect myself. I'm not loving myself. I don't
know how to show up for myself. You know, the
first time I heard that concept when someone told me, well,
they're just mirroring in you how you feel about yourself,
because I'm like, hell no, you know, I'm a fly chick.
I don't feel like I love me what I marry me?
It is a different question than would you marry you.
It's more like, if you married you, what would you
be getting?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 4: Because what you feel in relationship to another person's behavior
says everything about what you need to heal inside of yourself.
And that's an unpleasant look because we don't think that
we would do that to ourselves. But what I'm saying
is indeed, you're doing it to yourself by not looking
at it in yourself. And so you are attracted chemically,
even to someone and it's like something's different about them.
They have an exotic look. No, it's not really what
the person looks like on the outside. It's the and
the trauma that they're carrying that matches the magnet. It's
the metal for the magnet that's in you. That is
your unhealed trauma.
Speaker 3: That's it.
Speaker 4: That's all.
Speaker 10: When different lovers keep activating strangely familiar fears, desires, defenses, attractions,
and emotional roles.
Speaker 3: Are you repeatedly choosing the wrong people or are different
people being cast into an unfinished psychological script you keep
carrying from relationship to relationships. You got a script. That
script is your type vibrationally, a frequency. Oh, you got
a frequency type and it's all lined in, and you're
calling it in because you refuse to go with the
Talk to me about that refusal.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like if you are the orchestrator or you
are the conductor of this musical group, you ever had
to replace the bass player ten times, but they're still
playing the bass no matter how they're showing up. Their
discipline may be different, their skill level may be different,
but they still playing the bass. That is the chord
that is in you. It is what needs to be healed.
So instead of trying to figure out what's wrong with
the bass player, figure out what inside of you was
corresponding to that need. You understand what I'm saying, where
is that internal need? What is it coming from? I
did a head cleaning for someone in my office, and
I noticed that the bubbles that were coming up. One
was larger than I had ever seen. It was like
it had burned the bottle. And as soon as it
came up, it delivered so much information where I was
able to see, you're not having an issue with your woman.
You have an issue with your mama. Well, I've healed
my issue with my mama. Yes, Now, this is why
you get to deal with your mama. The unseen, unspoken
parts in other people, and it's showing up quite viciously
because the spirit loves you much.
Speaker 3: What's your website? Somebody need their head cleannessy? You know
what do you do it? Like a shoe shine? I
need a headshine?
Speaker 4: Well, rags are involved.
Speaker 3: What's the website?
Speaker 4: Press with precious dot com?
Speaker 3: Gosh, when difficult lovers keep activating strangely familiar fears, desires, defenses, attractions,
this is heavy stuff. Tonight. Listen, you're listening to the
voice of reasons. It's holding this Wednesday. Uh TikTok is
on fire. YouTube is on fire. I want to do
something different tonight, I want the callers to call in.
I call in, but I want to ask the callers questions. Oh,
I want to ask them question nice Typically they call
in and ask oh.
Speaker 4: Andy said, they're not gonna call.
Speaker 3: Andy, don't have no faith.
Speaker 4: You don't think they were calling last night?
Speaker 3: Yeah, they were. I'm not gonna drill. I'm gonna ask questions.
Speaker 4: I'm a drill the same.
Speaker 3: Way I ask precious questions and precious answers. Y'all been
listening now. I want to see what they're going I
want to see their thought process. Yeah, Andy said, they're
not gonna do it. The number of doll is one,
eight hundred and nine twenty fifteen eighty. I got questions
for you. Would you like to answer them? For me?
I need to be educated, please, Yeah, call and enlighten
me and precious, can you do it? The number dow
one eight hundred nine, twenty fifteen eighty. When we come
forward more from the v R.
Speaker 11: There's sang Sanga means the numbers of people who have
come together called by the same voice, which is always
the impersonal voice of truth, says time now in this life,
come come and discover the truth. You see there are
many ways that we can discover the truth through in
many different forms, through different religions, in different practices. Because
God is infinite, God is immense. You cannot limit God
to one particular religions. Only this religion and knows God.
This is nonsense things Gods as varied as people are.
Each one of them can and find God in a way,
not just by their own imagination, but if they have
that urge within them already. That urge is put in
there by the grace of God and will lead them
to the path that is right and suitable for them. Okay,
I am glad and thankful to know you. So I'm
glad and thankful to know you had a safe trip
back to Mantisahasha, thank you for making this letter possible.
Thank you for handling this situation of crisis with such generosity,
care and prudence. Thank you for your loving being. Thank
you with this catchup. I experienced this time as a
great opportunity for going deeper. The opportunity of taking part
online in the Rishikesh retreat was the starting point of
this turning inside. Now life offers a retreat situation in
daily life. Yes, this is true, ah.
Speaker 3: Mike Andy that Mouji mooji cooks. I like it. Tonight's
topic is one of those ones. This is intimate theater
as long as you acting and performing, this is intimate theater.
And we are opening up the phone lines because we
want to hear from our callers. We want to ask
them questions and see what their answers are. Precious, Yes,
are you ready for that?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 3: The number to die one eight hundred nine twenty fifteen eighty.
Get to your phone lines right now. What role are
you playing in your relationship? Are you the director? Writer? Actor?
Are you like prince? Do you do all of you?
Who are all the hats? And if so, why who
wrote the script? And for what purpose? Was it you?
Or the AI wound? I want to know one nine
twenty fifteen eighty. We got callers, Let's get them right now.
Off the top of Jamaica Queen's New York Wiggy, Wiggy.
Speaker 12: Hello, Hi Halloween, Hey Queen by Queen Pee? How how
has everybody in the comment section?
Speaker 3: Wiggy?
Speaker 12: We love tonight.
Speaker 4: I loved y'all.
Speaker 12: That's what I'm here. I'm not scared to call you.
Why y'all don't call? What's so?
Speaker 5: Scar?
Speaker 12: Come on?
Speaker 3: Now, oh, are you ready for your question? Then here
we go.
Speaker 12: I have I have a jading in a very long time.
Speaker 3: That's okay, but you got experience, right, Yes, okay, here's
your question. If God keeps changing the scenery, the actors,
the circumstances, and the emotional conditions of the play, why
does the same version of you keep showing up to
perform the same part?
Speaker 12: Ooh, I suspect that I haven't made any adjustment, and
therefore I am picking the same type of individual because
it's because it's me. It's something within me that I'm picking,
and I'm attrancing that to me, And so that person
comes and so I'm there. I'm dealing with whatever it
falls within myself through them, and so that will continue
until I, at some point realize what I'm doing. Then
I'm gonna get a different result. But until I make
that change. And because it had happened to me, because
I can't pick it the same type, yes, because I
was Yes, I was not aware of myself. I thought
it was some kind of attraction, but it was actually
some kind of avoidance that I was actually attractive. I
was looking at them, but it was really all the
time me mm hmm.
Speaker 4: Indeed, indeed you know what, Wiggy, Wiggy, Wiggy growing nail
on the head, Wiggy up in here, growing under our nose.
Speaker 3: Yes, Wiggy, I love the transparency.
Speaker 12: Represent got the represents the Williams Queen and preston.
Speaker 4: The website with precious.
Speaker 3: With precious God. Come, I guess what you.
Speaker 13: Uh?
Speaker 12: Bring Jamaica queens into the house.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we love you, we love you, we love you.
If you want to call us, I gotta do this.
Call us right now, fifteen eighty. Let's dip over to Denver, Colorado.
CALLI soul is in the calling.
Speaker 14: Good evening.
Speaker 12: Hey, queen, Hey queen, all right, it's going good evening.
Speaker 3: Are you ready?
Speaker 14: I'm ready? How's here?
Speaker 13: Ball?
Speaker 4: She said it like be be kind? So did you
feel that? Hello?
Speaker 14: I'm mainly learning tonight. So it's good that y'all ask
for callers.
Speaker 1: T'all can ask questions.
Speaker 14: I'm like, I'm not, y'all got me listening and thinking.
Speaker 4: I believe in you though. CALLI. I think you're gonna get.
Speaker 3: This because it's Cali. I'm gonna do hey, because it's Cali.
It's gonna be a two part question, Okay, true or false?
The play reveals the mask. The script protects the mask, impermanence,
keeps threatening the masks survival. True or false? But then
that's the true false piece. The second part of the
question is who might you discover yourself to be? If
you stop confusing the protective character, you learn to play
with the conscious experiencing the play itself.
Speaker 4: What oh, I got a d D. Now one question
at the time, I follow it?
Speaker 3: Okay, again, deal with the deal with the first one?
True or false? The play, The play reveals the mass,
the script protects the mask. Impermanence, keeps threatening the mask's survival.
True or false?
Speaker 14: Keep threatening the mask survival. That's true?
Speaker 15: Yeah, but why.
Speaker 14: Because we're the casting directors. I'm the casting directors. I've
been calling lessons then to help me drop the mask,
to reveal me to me.
Speaker 3: She's trying to come with it a little bit.
Speaker 14: Yeah, run those three questions again, please.
Speaker 3: All right, This is the second part of the question,
who might you discover yourself to be? If you stop
confusing the protective character, you learn to play with the
consciousness experiencing the.
Speaker 14: Play again, the casting director, the co.
Speaker 3: Creator, Why are you creating this experience for yourself.
Speaker 14: Yeah, oh, because I still got lessons to learn.
Speaker 3: Let me tell you why this experiment is so amazing, because,
as doctor Allen Berger stated a couple of weeks ago
when he was on the show, you know, part of
my new book is saying we know the answers intellectually,
but experientially that's when that's where the rubber meets the road. Right.
So I'm listening and the callers are giving us the
right answers. CALLI is giving us the right answers. But
the question is is CALLI living the right answer?
Speaker 14: I am now, I have been recently before. I was
before I thought that things were out of my control
and that God wasn't necessarily co creating with me as me.
I thought that God was something separate from me, doing
things to me things to me, Yes, yes, And I
realized I'm just the peace of God operating as God.
So like I'm I'm I'm the creator of my world,
of my experience.
Speaker 4: I have the naming power.
Speaker 14: I have the power of decision to change the way
I see things and the way I experience them.
Speaker 3: I'm going to hand you over the precious because I
know when pressure, I could feel her shifting in her
talk to me.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm listening to her, and it's not that I disagree.
I actually agree. However, you said something that was very
key though. It's the experience, intial part that you have
to even identify that this is what's happening, right, that
this is how I show up. And when we are
experiencing things, we feel out of control. It's like a
person going to look for a job and they end
up in a job where the boss doesn't acknowledge them,
they're not getting adequate pay. So it feels like something
that's being done to us. And am I the god
of this? Am I the author of this? And indeed,
but the part of us that is the god in
that is the part that hasn't shown up yet.
Speaker 3: Oh wait a minute, it's underneath.
Speaker 4: It's the underneath piece.
Speaker 3: It's something that you have to tap into. Yes, and
it supersedes your sense of self, as in your the ego,
the persona, the personality like absolutely, God is wearing the
mask of you. Is what you're saying, say go go.
Speaker 4: Because as the author, we can change the scene, right,
we can add additional players, we could subtract players. But
as the creator, then we understand we could ditch the
freaking script and we can make this some other type
of theater. We can do, uh, what is that where
you improvise? We can do improvision and just do give
give something different. I mean like cosplay or like how
improvisional where actors improvise. Oh yeah, right, where you give
a storyline and then they get to show up. We
can change everything about it. That's the part of us
that enters in as creators. But most often we're showing
up as the author and the director and the casting agent.
Speaker 3: And it is and I'm asking Cali and you, this
is it us showing up or is it the one?
It's our behind to us?
Speaker 4: Now, it's a wound that we're over identifying with. We
think we are the womb.
Speaker 3: If meeting another human being keeps an infant alive. How
could need possibly become the problem? At what point does
yesterday's necessary dependence becomes today's invisible demand that a lover
finish a developmental job. Adulthood now requires you to finish
within yourself. Sure you needed your mother and she wasn't there.
Sure you needed your dad and they were inconsistent or
whatever happened. But you're supposed to outgrow need. If you're
trying to walk into unconditional love, is that why it
doesn't exist?
Speaker 4: It is so perplex you know because eventually, when you
get to an awakened state in your healing and mind,
you there's higher levels to go than that. You know,
in actualizing, you no longer feel in your pain. You know,
you don't experience the pain body of what the mother
didn't do. Right, you start to go beyond and feel,
oh are we.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're right there. I'm sorry, hold on, stay with
don go nowhere, Cally this y'all, don't gotta start. We
turned up when we come forward. More from this most
intriguing discussion.
Speaker 16: So what we hold on consciousness and our intention of
actually influences the total field. So what can we do
for mankind? We can be the most forgiving, loving, understanding,
compassionate kind person. We can be towards all of life,
the reverence for all of life in all of its expressions.
A little black beetling on its back and his little lecture,
he's saying, help me, help me. You try to walk away,
and you have to go back and turn them over. Why,
because that's what you have become. You have the option
to say and squash them right there.
Speaker 3: I hate beetles.
Speaker 16: They stink, all right. So we have the option then
at all times, at all times. And here we are
on this planet, on this island, on some trajectory migratate
and migration and evolutionary migration of our spirit. And here
we bliss by our attitude all that we encountered. And
so doing we raise the level of the sea. And
by raising the lad level of the sea, these people
at the bottom of the maps are lifted up by
the buoyand sea of the water, not by causing effect.
Giving them money increases the poverty, Haiti. The more money
you gave them, the worst the poverty got. No, it's
not money. It's a matter of consciousness. What causes people
to be at the bottom is their level of consciousness.
So what we do for all of mankind is to
be as loving towards all of life as we can
be thereby blessing all of mankind.
Speaker 3: Oh man, that's doctor David R. Hawkings talking about the
consciousness grid, and he's basically saying, if you focus on
you raise your level of consciousness. And you're one of
tens of thousands that collective consciousness. That evolution, that raising
of consciousness will raise the lower levels of consciousness too,
because they're on planet Earth with us. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Indeed, during the pandemic, when me, well, I got a message,
I'm sure a lot of people who divine got messages.
And I asked the spirit what is it that we
do in the face of a globally devastating experience? The
spirit said B. I'm like, B, what be light? And
sage B praying spear said just B because it raises
the vibration of the collective for you to just be.
It's like when you go to a metaphysical gathering and
then there's people in the back of the room in
silent meditation. They're not doing anything other than raising the
vibration so that the message can not just come through
but intercept. You're being.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but see, so many people add three more letters
to be us y. They get busy, too busy, and
being literally requires awareness, which is consciousness. Right, and again,
most people have to do something, But the wound needs
that d You see, the wound is saying I need
this to be fulfilled. This needs to come in and
once I get it, I'll be satiated. But only momentarily
being is understanding that I am whole in the moment, right,
And if I can stay in this space longer, if
I can expand the walls of that interval of time, yeah, right,
I can raise up consciously and I can literally change.
But I don't think people want to change. That's that,
you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And the truth of the matter is is we
don't need for a single event to happen outside of ourself.
These events that are outside of ourselves are calling us
back inward because this is where the true realization and
transformation happens.
Speaker 3: In turns, you're telling me we've been outside.
Speaker 4: I'm outside.
Speaker 3: Hey, we've been outside. Listen. When we come forward, you
already know on the other side, were getting ready to
land a plane. Y'all call in so we can ask
you questions. The number dout one eight hundred nine twenty
fifteen eighty black boy.
Speaker 17: Black light and shadows dancing together. That's how I see
the siliverse. And if you love him, he will show
it to you. It's the most.
Speaker 18: Strange experience that no human tongue can tell only by
experiencing loving God. This whole show is to love Him,
and everybody is our own one.
Speaker 5: We love him, Love him with.
Speaker 18: All your heart, and do not be tempted. God's greatest
temptation is sex, wine, and money. And if you can
do your best with all your mind and your heart,
never have anything there but the love of God. And
God will tempt you very much, But do not ail
to his temptation if you want him. And if you
want him, surely he shall take away the delusion. And
there is no comparison between temptation and God. But I
wait temptation and God, and I found him more tempting
than temptation. So in the glory of that joy, in
the glory of that communion, I know the whole world
forsakes me. He will never forsake me. The whole world
arouds me. I will be nothing better. Praise does not
make me better, not brain make me less. I am
what I am, before my conscience, before the two souls
that think of me and know me as I am,
and before my father.
Speaker 3: So man par Mahanza Yogananda, Oh yes, yes, now see
Parmahnsa was known for being in a state of divine
ecstasy when he entered that Samedi state of meditation, like
he taps into the communion of the higher consciousness. Right,
What I'm proposing here is that intimate relationship is designed
to lead you into the inner path. But often we
have built relationships around our needs. Right, we don't understand
that we're in a divine play that is designed to
get us back to a state of self remembrance and
that self that S is with a capital S, not
the small egoic self that you know, that that is
merged and enmeshed into this wound identity that we have
that gives us our entitlements, our judgments and all of that.
But I believe that there's this higher level. Right, We've
got Cali Soul on the line, and I definitely want
to ask her another question, and I want to get
your answer on it too, CALLI are you on the
line with us?
Speaker 14: I'm still here.
Speaker 3: I gotta go. Great question. M you ready?
Speaker 4: Yes, sir?
Speaker 3: When you say my partner should make me feel safe,
what amount of that statement describes intimacy and what amount
assigns another adult responsibility for your internal regulation?
Speaker 14: All of it makes another adult responsibility responsible for your
internal regulation. It's not a good idea.
Speaker 3: But isn't that the way relationship is designed? A good
partner is supposed to come in and kind of take
the edge off of you.
Speaker 4: We're socialized to believe that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, m hm, talk to me, ladies. You guys have
the floor.
Speaker 4: We're socialized to believe that. But that is a relationship
different in different parts of the world. Right, Even the
concept of marrying for love, that is a very Western thing.
It's usually more of a practical decision as you you know,
reach out to other countries. But it's it's an impossibility
because safety is not real.
Speaker 3: And because of impermanence.
Speaker 4: Well yes, well it's in perception tight like we perceive
that we are safe. But if we find out that
somebody put ten pounds of bombs up under the building,
you're gonna find out how safe you really are. Right,
But what we can achieve is sacredness, right with how
we treat a connection, and that also gets you to
treat the relationship different. How does it to have all
of these rules when it's about sacredness versus safety?
Speaker 3: I need you, guys, I need you both to expound
on this idea of sacredness. Is it's sacredness something that
is that can only be found in the now? Oh yeah,
talk to me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, there's presence. And for something to be sacred,
you have to be able to have enough reverence to
achieve presence, right, But for something to be safe, you
got to lock it up, keep it away from other people.
So if a relationship is sacred, it's not that you're
keeping it away from other people. It's how you approach
The connection is with sacredness, with reverence. You see what
I'm saying, and so other people have access to it,
so it don't have control over it.
Speaker 3: Is also a secret, No, that's.
Speaker 14: How we've been trained. Though sacred is secret.
Speaker 8: No, that's not truth, but.
Speaker 4: It's not the truth. Sacred is not a secret noyes
from everyone.
Speaker 14: Yes, it's like people turn into Egel.
Speaker 19: Like, oh and I cannot you know, I bet not
be trying to share you with nobody.
Speaker 3: I did not trying to share you with Who's.
Speaker 19: That's danger, you know, like the way we've been trained,
that's danger. And what's interesting about the question you asked
about letting someone else be responsible or your internal experience
what you want to experience. When I did that, I
was so miserable and I couldn't even understand why.
Speaker 3: Let's go deeper let's go deeper. Let's go deeper as
as women. Do you need your needs Matt?
Speaker 4: If so, why, well, it depends on what type of needs.
Speaker 3: About stop pressure, halloweens stop. You know.
Speaker 4: How older that you get, the less you need you
know what I mean. It's just like there's things that
I prefer for my comfort, but no, can I say
it like this. The best thing that somebody's ever done
for me in an intimate setting was to let me
be free, let me show give me the space to
be free. I mean, I can talk to you about
anything because there are no rules. It's a sacred space
that is created versus safety.
Speaker 3: So that's like the the video I sent you guys
on Instagram where that dog was running crazy in a circle,
and I was like, this is the type of environment
that women need in order to feel.
Speaker 4: Something, oh right, right, right right?
Speaker 3: Yes. And I wasn't saying like women were dogs a dog.
It wasn't a dog. It was like a rabbit or something.
Speaker 4: It was, yes, I think it was. It was some
kind of animal. But it's like this when you let
children right, not to say that people are children, but
when you let a child free in their environments, Yes,
they actually have less chance of injuring themselves because they
get to experience the room. If you let them walk ahead,
you'll learn they learn their own natural safety zone or
what is permissible. But it's from letting them go, not
by keeping them. I mean. And don't get me wrong,
I would love to put a leash on my grandson
because they just love them so much. I don't want
them to get away. But the reality is it's better
to let his parents are pretty good about allowing him
to explore his environment, so he's learned what's okay and
what's not okay.
Speaker 3: You guys know this conversation is radical encountering. Yeah, right, yeah,
because we've been taught in reverse. You show up, you
provide for me internally, externally, and it's this constant recip right. Yeah.
But the reality of it is, maybe we've we've gotten
it wrong backwards.
Speaker 4: See that's the thing. When you say wrong, it's the judge.
Maybe that was the necessary for us to be able
to evolve into the space. Maybe we needed to have
it backwards, you know, like we were saying Andy, no right,
no wrong.
Speaker 3: It's just is I like that.
Speaker 4: You know, And so it's those experiences that maybe didn't
feel so good that I really appreciate because it helped
me get to the center of who I am.
Speaker 3: We're cooking with the Rads, Grease. Don't go nowhere, Cali,
I got another question for you on the other side.
Listen when we come forward. More from Cali from Denver,
Colorado and Precious. It's homeless Wednesdays and we've been cooking
with the Raris Grease.
Speaker 13: Everyone is such a and I have to tell her
something about glove. I just have made the video service
about it. Now, everybody knows about the word love, but
people put different meanings to it. But to all us
think that love it's all about molecule molecules, Like the
major molecules are dopamine and boxycin and thin. Is it
just a play of molecules? Others think not, because you know,
fluff falls apart except for the romantic fast when they
come out of it, it falls apart in no time.
Speaker 3: So if it was just molecules, okay, you know, I
love emit. Goswami. Now it's a theoretical physicist, you know,
and he deals deeply with consciousness. But we ain't got
time to go through the depth of what he's saying,
and then the heavy accent in the show. I could
do it, but late in the show. No, not late
in the show. We're gonna play that same clip tomorrow
early where we can sit down and process. But I
hear what he's saying. He's gonna get into the consciousness
of it. We got Cali Soul on the line from Difver, Colorado.
I have a final question for Cali before we land
the plane. Man, this is interesting. How much jealousy, control, possession, resentment, bargaining,
and abandon and abandonment terror grows logically from one single belief? Now,
this belief I'm about to share is suppose psychological need
begins with one hidden premise something outside me must happen
before I can become whole. So how much jealousy, control, possession, resentment, bargaining,
and abandonment terror grows logically from that single belief?
Speaker 14: All of it?
Speaker 3: Yikes? Have you ever experienced it? Oh?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 14: Oh yeah?
Speaker 3: Well how do you fight that off? You know that
Memoris say, I'm fighting for my life, he fighting for
his life. How do you fight that off? That feeling
of oh my god, the resentment, abandonment, this terror, that
I'm not enough. How do you fight all of that
off in order to get back into this kind of integrated,
healed space.
Speaker 4: I don't know that you should be fighting it off.
If you have to fight it off, you haven't arrived
wherever you are, be all there because it won't be
a struggle, you know, just witness it. It's like that
how I was saying, allowing the baby to explore the room.
It's really the best way for them to know what
works and what doesn't, versus you know, having the baby
be so disciplined that it doesn't get to experience life.
It's an eventuality.
Speaker 3: I love that, Kelly. So you know you did your
thing today. I'm very proud of you with this experiment.
You're very transparent and open. So it leads me to
ask you this one final question. All right, guess what
you just did?
Speaker 14: Chad Oh, I can answer this question easy. I bought
Denver into the building.
Speaker 3: Denvergh Colorado in the building. Thank you for this was great, great, great.
I always love Holness Wednesdays because we get to dig
deep into the spiritual and philosophical and metaphysical topics. I
will say this, my patience is growing thin for my
people tell me I am profit Elijah of relationships. I
only pop out to tell you when you're headed for disaster, right, Hey,
the end of the world's coming. We better pull it
together if we're gonna get right. I do belie leave
that relationship is the catalyst for individuation. And I think
people are misusing it, right, they're using it for leisure
and pleasure. And you know, escapism and this isn't This
is a relationship is a spiritual technology for the access
to higher consciousness, for recommunion with God. I think that's
what relationship is actually for. And we've turned it into
a damn escapist resort. Your final thought on that you
got eighties.
Speaker 4: Eight It is, indeed, but that's a part of it, right.
Even we shouldn't be attached to the timing or the outcome,
because spiritually speaking, there is no time that's linear and
the outcome. All roads lead to God, so.
Speaker 3: All roll lead to God. Now you might have to
go through the hood.
Speaker 4: Gotta go through the hood.
Speaker 3: You might have to go through.
Speaker 4: The woods, the woods.
Speaker 3: I love it. And you know what, we start the conversation.
Speaker 4: It's up to you to finish it, hey, and.
Speaker 3: I really want you guys to go support Precious Miguil.
I want everybody to bum rush her website.
Speaker 4: With precious dot com.
Speaker 3: There you go. Hey, I'll be back tomorrow with another
slaper of the VR does what he does. We keep cooking,
love y'all, See y'all tomorrow, Deuces