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Speaker 1: Golf Smarter number four hundred five, published on October eighth,

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twenty thirteen.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to golf Smarter Mulligans, your second chance to gain

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insight and advice from the best instructors featured on the

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interview library features hundreds of hours of game improvement conversations

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like this that are no longer available in any podcast app.

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Speaker 3: So now we're going to change a conversation. A lot

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of people don't know what a four wood is anymore.

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You have three woods, and everybody has a three wood

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in their bag or thinks they should. Most people do anyway,

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and a lot of people have three and five wood's.

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The four wood's kind of a forgotten item. Certain manufacturers

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carry them, some don't, tailor made kind of hides theirs.

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It's a high launched three wood, but it's a seventeen degree.

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It's really a four wood on steroids. But I like

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to change the conversation with my clients and say, what

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you really need is a fairway driver. Forget the numbers, okay,

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because a number just don't always stack up. Sometimes it's

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a three, it might be a four, might be a

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high launch three might be a two, might be a

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five wood, might be a seven wood. And you're talking

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about beginners versus more experienced players. Many beginners probably shouldn't

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hit anything less than a seven wood starting out, wow,

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because that extra launch angle and loft it creates the

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launch angle gives them a lot more forgiveness.

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Speaker 1: Come on and join me as I get fitted for

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new clubs with club fitter Nick Manzano. This is golf smarter.

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You can walk into a department store and buy a

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coat off the rack and it may fit you well

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because you kind of know your size. But if you

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were to walk in that department store and get an

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expert to help you, to measure you, to make it

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fit for you, to custom fit it for you, but

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it's still a department store, you're going to feel a

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lot better about it. You're going to be more confident,

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and people are going to comment on it. That's kind

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of the way it works with golf. You can walk

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into any store and look at all the clubs they have,

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know what your friend has and purchase one, or you

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can have an expert at that store help you out.

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And that's what I'm gonna do today. I'm here at

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the golf Mart in Santrafel, California, and I'm with the

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one of the half dozen club fitters they have here

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at the golf mart, and this is Nick Manzano. And Nick,

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why is it important for us to be fitted for

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golf clubs?

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Speaker 3: It's you know, it's not important for everybody. For people

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who want to better their games and to make it

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more enjoyable and have more fun out there. You know,

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sometimes it's the archer and sometimes it's the earrow, and

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tailoring a golf club to somebody's swinging abilities is very.

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Speaker 1: Important if you want to progress with the game. And

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what is the process of getting fitted.

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Speaker 3: Would start out with an interview and some kind of

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discussion and background is to what the person's experiences and

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what their attitudes are towards certain brands or certain clubs,

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and how fast of a learning curve they're on. They're

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just playing and practicing, and you know, once a month

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or something, you know you might fit them differently if

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they're on an aggressive learning curve. You know, just like

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a pair of shoes, you'd want to kind of fit

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ahead of where they are so they don't have to

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buy a new set of golf clubs every six months.

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Speaker 1: I get emails from listeners all the time saying, I'm

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just starting to play golf and I know it's important

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to be fitted, but I want to get my swing

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going first. Are they right to wait to be fitted

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and do it on their second set of clubs or

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from their first set of clubs? Out? Is being fitted

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going to make a difference, going to enhance their confidence

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in their game.

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Speaker 3: That's where you know, ideally you would have if they're

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starting out and they're taking lessons from a golf professional,

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then ideally that professional would give them that guidance and

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you know, give them an idea at what point they

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can take that off the shelf seven iron and progress.

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Speaker 1: Onto something else, maybe at.

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Speaker 3: The practice range. And that's where you know, ideally, you know,

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a good club fitter would be willing to work with

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a professional and you know, coordinate that fitting. But as

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long as they can repeatedly hit a shot, you know,

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seventy eighty percent of the time, then you can begin

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to start fitting. The difficulty with instruction is when the

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swing changes. Most people start out pretty stiff when they swing.

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Speaker 1: They don't have a lot of athletic background.

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Speaker 3: Saying softball or tennis, and when you get into lessons,

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their whole posture changes, and then the fit of the

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golf club changes.

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Speaker 1: So does it make sense as somebody progresses over the

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years to be fitted multiple times each time they're ready

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to change their clubs.

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Speaker 3: And not necessarily over the years, but over progression of skills.

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You know, as they get better, better than the fit

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would likely change. And instead of a cavity back iron

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that's going to default straight and make have a low

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center gravity, be easy to hit, you know, they might

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progress into a little bit smaller club they can work

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and you know, fade or hook around a tree if necessary,

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or out of the trees and get back into play

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and challenge them a bit more, so that that fit

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would change as well as the the tightness of the fit.

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You know, if you're fitting a beginner, the fit can

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be a bit quicker, easier, looser because things are going

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to change. It's more of a general fit. When you

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fit somebody with a lot more experience and abilities at

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that level, then you know it's a very fine, careful

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fit because now you have a really good archer. To

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go back to that analogy, and so that arrow has

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to be absolutely true. The bow and the sites have

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to be dialed in and you know just perfectly, and

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you know it's all about a team effort, the player,

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the fitter, the golf professional, the trainer. It takes a

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lot to be very good at golf.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's been about five or six years since I've

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purchased any clubs, and I wanted to upgrade on my driver, hybrids,

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my fairway woods, so I thought I would get fitted

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to do that. Instead of just seeing what other people

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are playing, I want to know where my game has

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changed and if I'm either playing the right clubs or

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I do need new ones. So that's why I'm here

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today and we're going to go through a fitting process

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with Nick.

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Speaker 3: Right now, what's your index? So what do you usually shoot?

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Speaker 1: I'm My average score right now, according to my index

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is eighty eight point nine, so you're just about fourteen

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Speaker 3: Dead on average golf slightly. I am an average golfer

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for slightly better than average.

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Speaker 1: Probably very slight if i'm yeah, because I am under

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ninety and.

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Speaker 3: You probably it's probably an honest index, not one of

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those ego and no, this is based on my sandbagger

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and yeah, this is definitely based on my gin. So

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let's start out loosening up a little bit and we'll

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start with a six iron, Okay, just to lay down

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a benchmark. We did talk earlier and you mentioned that

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your four iron and five iron somewhere between there you

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you know, have a little bit more difficulty repeating your sots.

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So let's just see what the benchmark is with our

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six and how that appears to fit, and then we'll

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see what our longest playable iron is.

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Speaker 1: Now, what does this machine you're having me stand in

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front of right here which no one can see, but.

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Speaker 3: Well, this is a high speed camera system based launch

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monitor and software package that's accurate to within about a

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half a mile an hour in your swing, about a

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quarter degree on angles, and at the end of the day,

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with uh your clubs, it's going to be within about

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two or three yards.

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Speaker 1: We go.

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Speaker 3: It's all working, good, good, A couple more, just just

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Speaker 1: There so many, so many little things that need to

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remember about every part of my swing. It's like from

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back up in the top in the center meeting the

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hips and then got to get rid of that when

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I'm playing. But it's always it's in.

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Speaker 3: My sleep and set up the swing. You just got

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to kind of feeling.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right's take another one. See what happens.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's looking pretty good. Let's just get one more.

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Speaker 1: So what are we looking at back here on the monitor?

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Speaker 3: We're just watching the ballfly right?

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Speaker 1: So base what the launch monitor is? Picking up the software? Yes,

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picking up the ball flight and give a target. Man,

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I'm looking at a big white screen. Am I supposed

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to be aiming for something? Or just sure to hit

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the ball. Why didn't you step away and just on

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this last shot? Since we need one more anyway, just

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sort of imagine the target, use the lines of the

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mat to coordinate that, and pick the target and visualize

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it and swing away. When we're making a golf swing

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in the course, we're looking at the ball anyway, we're

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not really looking at a target. It's actually an imaginary target. Well,

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I love get behind the ball and I'm going to

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pick a target.

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Speaker 3: So take down, aim at that pin out there?

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Speaker 1: Got away all right, And that's one of the mist hits.

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Speaker 3: So much for targeting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, exactly, good idea, friend, That is that the

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spot right there?

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Speaker 3: Okay, Now that was really important. Here is just to

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take a deep breath and reboot. Oh absolutely, so I

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absolutely staked as many in here as anybody.

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Speaker 1: And well I don't what I don't do is just

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drop a ball and hit it. I'll definitely go through

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the whole preshot routine again in my normal game. But

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that was that was on tape.

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Speaker 3: So that's I'm going to go over and delete that

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because that would, thank you, I appreciate that would throw

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off our numbers.

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Speaker 1: Tell me when.

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Speaker 3: Fire and ready, Well that was worth it. That was

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the best shot yet. Oh you know, sometimes you gotta

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sometimes you gotta hit bottom before you fly back up.

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So they're coming over to the monitor.

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Speaker 1: For a second, coach, Okay.

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Speaker 3: So on the monitor here we have all the numbers

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of rate out here. We have a club head speed

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very consistent on average, seventy three miles an hour.

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Speaker 1: And that's great.

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Speaker 3: So in regards to fitting, which you were talking about,

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when somebody has a really consistent swing speed and they

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repeat pretty good, it's now possible to do a very

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nice fitting.

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Speaker 1: A swing speed seventy three and they're talking about some

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of the pros are up in the one hundred and twenties

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and thirties.

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Speaker 3: That's drivers okay, good, So that does change from club

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to club.

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Speaker 1: Your your club hit speed.

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Speaker 3: Six irons are much shorter and they don't swing as fast.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, good, good, no, thank you.

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Speaker 3: So seventy three mile hour club speed translate to about

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one hundred and seven mile an hour ball speed. You

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have a launch angle of eighteen point three. Your average

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shot was one point five degrees offline to the right

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in inner twenty six RPMs a side spin, so it

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was fading off to the right in addition to starting

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off to the right. Yep, and the back spins fifty

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four hundred, and we'll skip the total spin to centangle

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forty four degrees. That's really good, forty four forty five.

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Somewhere around there is a really good tocentangle to come

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in and stop on a green and hold really nicely.

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Speaker 1: Now, we took the six h iron out because you asked

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me what's my one hundred and fifty yard club?

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Speaker 3: I did, Yep.

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Speaker 1: You said which club do you hit one hundred and

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fifty yards before? And I said.

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Speaker 3: That was a different conversation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The reason why I take the six iron out is

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just because we have optimization charts. It's smarter people than

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I have put together over the years, and they know

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for any given ball speed, and that's why that column

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is important. It's good to have a certain launch angle,

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and it's good to have a certain amount of backspin

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to be able to have a good playable trajectory so

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the ball takes off, doesn't balloon up too much in

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the wind. You maximize the distance at the same time,

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you have enough spin on the ball and it drops

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out and stops on the green right about where you

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want it without kicking and releasing too far, without backing

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off the green. And that's what we're looking for with

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an iron. So what you have with yours, will we

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go over to optimization chart. At one hundred and seven

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miles an hour, you are pretty much in the middle

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of regular flex, a little bit up towards the border

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between regular and stiff, a pretty average tempo, and pretty smooth,

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so there's no reason to I think too far outside that.

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In regular flex they recommend forty four hundred to fifty

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three RPMs is a good range of spin to me.

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In you're just over that at fifty four hundred, so

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you're getting a little bit of extra spin on there.

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Launch angle seventeen to twenty three. And see that's how

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this works. As you're launching at eighteen three, so you're

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launching on the low side of perfect and then you're

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spinning just a little bit much. But you also had

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we just did three shots. You had one shot that

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you came down on a bit differently and trapped, and

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you got sixty four hundred RPMs to spin and that

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probably threw the numbers off. So if you hit a

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couple more, my guess is it would average out and down,

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you'd be just underneath the fifty three, probably fifty one

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fifty two, and you'd be launching around eighteen nineteen. And

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that's not a bad place to be at all. So

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your clubs are pretty well fit for you.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's good. Who finish it for them? Dan Sex?

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Speaker 3: Well, so you use one of the best.

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Speaker 1: I'm hitting off of a mat. How different would these

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numbers be if we're hitting off of grass?

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Speaker 3: It would be probably a lot harder to get them.

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The mats very forgiving.

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Speaker 1: Right, Practicing off of a mat seems very different than

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hitting off of grass. When you're practicing too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the difficulty in studio, and that goes back to

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One of the reasons why we have our ninety day

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warranty is when you can't see your target when you're

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hitting off a turf and you're in a real, you know,

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encore situation, people might hit the ball completely differently than

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they do here just because of where they're at mentally,

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how they feel in studio compared to out in the course,

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their home course compared to an unfamiliar place the ter

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for Matt conditions, it's all very different. But that's we

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do the best job we can here with the facilities,

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and if it doesn't work, you go out in the

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course and play with it, bring it back within ninety days.

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Speaker 1: We'll take the feedback.

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Speaker 3: In that point in interview, you know what's working, what's

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not working, and then we can adjust and refit if

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necessary based upon you know the actual results, and make

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a small adjustment. And then we're there.

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Speaker 1: So a little bit off center here, but so I

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know that I have a fade, and I play my fade.

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I've never hit a drug. I don't even understand it.

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But when somebody goes out for ninety days and they

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have a fade but they don't like it, what if

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they come back and go I'm just every shot I

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keep fading the ball. It's like, well, good, then you're consistent,

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aren't you. I mean, isn't that consistency?

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, who's the best player in the world, well,

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number one ranked?

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Speaker 1: I guess that would be Tiger Well of all time, of.

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Speaker 3: All time, big question, Tiger Nicholas. Time will tell yeah, exactly?

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Who is one of the best iron strikers of all time?

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Speaker 1: Hogan? Hogan of more recent times. I'm bad at these quizzes.

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Speaker 3: Probably Miller. Okay, well, at least he thinks.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, right, I'll tell you that. He'll be the

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first time to tell you.

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Speaker 3: But no, a lot of people would agree. But the

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Nicholas played a fade, and Miller could play a fade

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and really respect and talks a lot about Nicholas's fade.

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So you know, it all depends on what the expectations

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of the customer are.

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Speaker 1: At the end, he explained to me, what you're doing now.

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Speaker 3: So what we're doing is we are setting up a

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lieboard and we're seeing if the fade is entirely your

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problem or if it is a small adjustment on the iron.

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Speaker 1: Because your little plexiglass board with a couple of lines

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right down the middle. So then you put some what

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you put a tape on the bottom of my clothes.

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Speaker 3: It's called Impact eight, okay, and we put it on

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as centered as possible. Take a swipe with that. Let's

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see what the reading is and let's see if that

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fade is all yours or if your swing has changed

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slightly since you're fitting five years ago with Dan.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 3: So in fact, you see the darkest one right there,

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it's almost dead on center. Then it kind of slid

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off the board, is what happened there. So let's do

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one more just to verify that. Sure, you felt pretty

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good about that swing though, yeah, okay, again it's probably

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right on. We won't see much different here, but we'll

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take one more for the.

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Speaker 1: Books like that one more?

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Speaker 3: That was nice, Yeah, and you can see where they were.

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So you're actually marking probably half a degree to the heel,

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So that means your heel is down just a little

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bit dynamically through impact when you swing the club bows sure,

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and your body shifts and for you this is actually

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slightly toe up.

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Speaker 1: And that's something that I've recently been working on because

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I've been trying to and I don't know if you

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know some position, but trying to get the club more

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upright and flat on the ground because I always had

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a tendency to have the toe up, so it was

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a new thing for me to try to get it.

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But I'm clearly when I come back through impact, I'm

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not there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's a subtle fitting thing. So going back

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to what you were saying about fitting and the importance

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of fitting, that's one of the things you shouldn't have

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to unnaturally try to get the club to swing flat.

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The club should intuitively swing flat, and for two reasons.

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One is the center gravity. When you rock the soul

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of the club up, the center gravity, it's designed into

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that golf club for its particular use and it's appropriate

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fit for you. When you rock it up in the heel,

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the center gravity climbs. Now the club becomes harder to hit. Secondly,

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you can't see this visually, but you know when you

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have an uphill lie, yep, what do you aim right

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at the pin?

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Speaker 1: No uphill lie is gonna go to your left, So

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you come around right. Okay, do you know why because

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your your swing is shorter? Because no, because that was

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a trick question. No, I don't.

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Speaker 3: Most people don't. Most people don't know that answer. When

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the club's flat in the ground and going back that

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center gravity thing. If the toes down, if the toes

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up in the air and the heels down, the center

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gravity rises up and the club becomes less efficient. At

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the same time, if we square this to that line

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on the board that's pointing pretty much ninety degrees straight

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down the middle, right, correct, Now, I got my leading

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edge square to that line the same way. Where are

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we pointing?

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Speaker 1: Uh, you're pointing way left. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The compound angle of the face of the loft and

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the lie angle. When that club is up in the air,

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you line up your leading edge, you're visually distracted the

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face is actually pointing left.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So that that explains when you have an uphill

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lie why it's.

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Speaker 3: So so your club was marking on the heel. We

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can flatten that out a little bit and make that

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fits you more perfectly and make it more efficient. It'll

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drop the center of gravity, but what you need to

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be aware of is it will possibly leak a little

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bit more to the right.

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Speaker 1: Oh god, that's because as we dropping a little bit,

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this is the center and I'm hitting towards the heel.

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Speaker 3: But you can play that fade. And that's where you

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go back and forth between fitting and instruction. Now you

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go back and you work on that release in or

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the ball position, and then you work with your swing

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coach and you try to get that worked out so

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it's more neutral and you have the ability to fade

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or draw and demand and take it to know the level.

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But for the club heads efficiency, you're better off. You

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would be better off if that was just a hair

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flatter and the club would be much more efficient on

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a thin hit, for instance, the CFG would be much

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much closer to the ball strike on a mishit if

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that was set up properly. Interesting, that's just a quick overview.

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Your clubs look very well fit for you. They probably

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your swing has changed slightly, just off and care. Yeah,

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and there's nothing wrong with the fade. But you hit

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three really consistent shots here with your six. Let's go

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try your five right now, and let's see where that

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cutoff is before we go into the hybrids and the

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fairly ones.

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Speaker 1: See now, I mentioned you that I'm getting frustrated with

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my five because again I'm trying to lay the club

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flat on the ground. Because the way I always did

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it before, I was down on the heel and the

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toe was up. So I'm trying to position myself on

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my address with my hands a little bit higher.

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Speaker 3: Hold on just one second, friend, I'm gonna put a

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different screen out here. Okay, Yeah, I've got so many

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thoughts in your mind right now.

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Speaker 1: No, my mind is generally the same all the time. Empty. Wow,

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that was nice.

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Speaker 3: No fade there.

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Speaker 1: I was riding up the line.

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Speaker 3: Huh, missed the line by a couple of feet.

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Speaker 1: Oh, life sucks. What can I tell you. I'll try

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it again, see if it was an anomaly.

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Speaker 3: Another pretty good one a little farther.

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Speaker 1: Huh.

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Speaker 3: Those are three pretty good swings.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: Last when you miss hit just a little bit. Yeah,

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that's not bad at all. And do you carry four

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iron or not?

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Speaker 1: I do not. I do the hybrid when I get

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past the five.

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Speaker 3: Five five is the last one. Yeah, let's just try

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one more. Okay, Yeah, you're getting that five pretty good today.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna go out and play later, coming.

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Speaker 3: Over to the computer for just sure it. So what

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you have if we go back to your six iron

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for starters and you surely we'll take that off. Thanks

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miss hit there, So you got an extra three miles

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an hour longer clubs translates to an extra four and

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a half miles an hour of ball speed. But we're

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gonna look here is the difference is in. And look,

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by the way, with that one extra shot with your

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six iron, as I guessed, your backspin came down below.

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Speaker 1: Fifty three hundred.

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Speaker 3: So that's looking pretty good as far as how that's

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set up with the lofts and lies and the shaft pndpoint.

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So on your four iron you had a variance five

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I'm sorry, your six iron. On your six iron, you

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had a variance in yardage of one hundred and fifty

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to one hundred and fifty nine yards round it, so

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she had nine yards front to back on you. That's

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carry on Kerry distance. On your five iron, you had

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a variance of one fifty to sixty six. She had

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a sixteen yard difference.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 3: So it just shows you that when you go from

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you know, that higher lofted, slightly shorter club to the

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next club in the line, just in those four shots

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versus those four shots, you're just a little bit less consistent.

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And so that's where we determine where the cutoff is

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for the irons in your bag. Interesting on the offline,

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on your six iron, you were twenty two yards right

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to four yards right, so you had an eighteen yard

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spread if we go to your.

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Speaker 1: Average of just under fifteen offline. Fifteen yards offline.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but the spread is what we're looking at right now,

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So it's an eighteen yard spread or variance. And on

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your five iron you go from minus one yard to

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plus sixteen.

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Speaker 1: It's seventeen.

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Speaker 3: So with those four shots, In those four shots, your

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five iron is almost as consistent as your six iron.

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00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:43,319
It's a hair more consistent online and just the hair

480
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:47,079
less consistent on the distance. So you know, it appears

481
00:25:47,079 --> 00:25:49,440
your five iron is almost as consistent as your six.

482
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,119
I think keeping that in your bag is probably a

483
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:55,880
good idea. So that's what our benchmark is. We'll go

484
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:59,559
ahead and erase the six iron stuff, so we know

485
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,559
you're distance cutoff is and this looks like a little

486
00:26:02,559 --> 00:26:04,240
bit of a mishit, so I'll take that one out.

487
00:26:04,559 --> 00:26:06,480
You have one hundred and sixty four yards. It's going

488
00:26:06,559 --> 00:26:10,440
to be your average carry distance on a good fire.

489
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,519
Speaker 1: So good to know because I always think, oh I'm

490
00:26:13,519 --> 00:26:16,160
one hundred and sixty five yards out five.

491
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 3: Iron so that matches the reality.

492
00:26:18,319 --> 00:26:20,400
Speaker 1: So the reality is I do know the distance of

493
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,960
my clubs, so our monitor actually works, is what you're saying,

494
00:26:23,039 --> 00:26:27,480
or I do something works, but it's important. It's good

495
00:26:27,519 --> 00:26:28,960
to know your distances in.

496
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,079
Speaker 3: A fitting in the whole process that the customer buys

497
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,119
into the technology we're using. People ask all the time

498
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,960
about what's the latest technology. And some of the best

499
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,200
technology we have here at the Golf Mart is a

500
00:26:41,279 --> 00:26:46,119
launch monitor and using it properly, and it also helps

501
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:50,279
with a customer. If they know they're five irons one

502
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,759
hundred and sixty five yards and this launch monitor says

503
00:26:52,759 --> 00:26:54,880
it's flying one hundred and sixty four and a half yards,

504
00:26:55,440 --> 00:27:01,599
well then they're confident. Yeah, and you know they can

505
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,799
relax and they can trust that. You know, this thing's

506
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:07,039
not hocus pocus and it's really working, and that's really important.

507
00:27:07,079 --> 00:27:09,759
Speaker 1: Sounds like I'm saving some money on my irons, So

508
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:12,160
the flex is correct.

509
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 3: Probably right, Yeah, you're dead on the middle of regular

510
00:27:17,039 --> 00:27:20,480
flex and Dan did a nice job for you. The

511
00:27:20,799 --> 00:27:24,119
Dynamite Gold and the Dynamical super lights for most recreational

512
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:27,160
golfers are great shafts because they save a bit of weight,

513
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:28,680
so aniguewise.

514
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,319
Speaker 1: At the end of the round, he also moved me

515
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:35,880
to the metal shaft versus the graphite. I had graphite

516
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,319
before this, and he said, you know, a regular, regular

517
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,960
stiff on the on the metal flex was a better

518
00:27:42,599 --> 00:27:44,440
better for me than the graphite.

519
00:27:44,599 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, as you progress and get to be a little

520
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,759
bit better golfer, the torsional properties of the shaft. Steel

521
00:27:50,799 --> 00:27:54,160
shafts only twist two degrees. Graphite shafts twists three to

522
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,680
four degrees, and so you can be much more accurate

523
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,720
with a steel shaft over a graphite shaft. But that's changing.

524
00:28:00,319 --> 00:28:02,880
Some of the steel fiber shafts by Aerotech, for instance,

525
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,319
they're being used on tour, are just about as accurate

526
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:07,240
as the steel shafts.

527
00:28:07,279 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 1: Now, wow, Well it's your comment about as you progress

528
00:28:14,319 --> 00:28:18,119
and improve in your game. But here I am in

529
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:22,000
the age where we're both getting a lot older, right

530
00:28:22,039 --> 00:28:24,960
and quickly, So you had to go there. Huh yeah,

531
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:31,559
most likely not it's stayed the same or not. I mean,

532
00:28:31,599 --> 00:28:35,319
I'll probably be losing distance over time, and just because

533
00:28:35,319 --> 00:28:37,519
of aging process, catching.

534
00:28:37,279 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 3: Up technology and fitting can still help you with that,

535
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,440
and you know, I fit, and some of it's conditioning

536
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,039
to I can't tell you how many sixty seven year

537
00:28:47,039 --> 00:28:49,440
old guys I fit. They're still knocking drives or I've

538
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,000
helped fit for a long driver and they're knocking them

539
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,079
two fifty two sixty, two seventy two eighty all right, Well,

540
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,440
even one guy here butch I think is his name,

541
00:29:00,039 --> 00:29:02,880
to the titleist driver and you can knock at three

542
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:03,640
hundred yards.

543
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:08,519
Speaker 1: Still, Okay, he's a big guy though. Okay, three fifty though, right,

544
00:29:09,559 --> 00:29:10,839
So here's our benchmark.

545
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,039
Speaker 3: One hundred and sixty four hundred and sixty five yards.

546
00:29:13,119 --> 00:29:14,880
That's or five iron. So what we're going to do

547
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:16,920
right now is we're going to go ahead and shut

548
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:18,640
this down. Go over here, and we're going to go

549
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:22,119
to customer fairway and I'm going to have you hit

550
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:28,160
a couple with your fairway wood and let's see how it.

551
00:29:27,119 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 1: Appears to work for you.

552
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 3: So we got our starting point with a five iron,

553
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,200
we'll jump to your three wood, four wood.

554
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 1: Well, this is the now, this was one of the

555
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,759
clubs that was made for me by Jesse Ortiz.

556
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 3: Personally understand yes he did.

557
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 1: He said, go get fitted for clubs. This is when

558
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:51,839
I had to replace my last set because airlines. And

559
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,680
he said, I'm going to give you this seventy teen

560
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,200
degree and it's more like a four wood, but you

561
00:29:57,279 --> 00:30:01,480
can tell people it's a three wood. And I love

562
00:30:01,559 --> 00:30:02,759
hitting this thing off the tee.

563
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 3: Well, you know, most people don't even know what a

564
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:09,160
fourwood is. And I think Jesse or Tz did you

565
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,839
a great service that way. And my experience here, more

566
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,920
people than not fit into a seventeen degree four wood

567
00:30:17,039 --> 00:30:21,039
or high launched three wood better than into a fifteen degree. Wow,

568
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:23,880
And so I think you did a great job. And

569
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:25,559
maybe a tough time to fit you out of that,

570
00:30:25,599 --> 00:30:26,480
but we'll give it a whirl.

571
00:30:26,559 --> 00:30:32,119
Speaker 1: Okay. And shaft wise, it's.

572
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,799
Speaker 3: Shaft wise, it's a pretty standard shaft. You can do

573
00:30:32,839 --> 00:30:35,440
some amazing things with shaft but that depends on budget.

574
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:42,640
A year over year, shaft manufacturing tolerances have gotten better

575
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:47,160
and better. So the shafts made today are so much

576
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,720
more consistent than shafts made two, three, four years ago.

577
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,079
How old is your club? Four or five years? Four

578
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:53,680
or five years?

579
00:30:53,759 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I think.

580
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,599
Speaker 3: Most of the newer shafts are probably going to give

581
00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,359
us a little bit better spin rates and that'll help

582
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,039
out with the distance. But I'll share how that works

583
00:31:01,039 --> 00:31:10,400
in a minute. Swing away. Okay, the long fairway club,

584
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,039
the three or four wood, is probably the hardest hit,

585
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,200
hardest club to hit in the whole back off the.

586
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,359
Speaker 1: Tea, even a really really really low tea. And that's

587
00:31:18,359 --> 00:31:20,000
what I do with this club. I don't tee it

588
00:31:20,079 --> 00:31:25,440
up very high at all. It's very different than when

589
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:33,200
I'm hitting off the deck. I seem to have missed

590
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:34,000
every one of those.

591
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:39,119
Speaker 3: It's better just try one other thought. You were asking

592
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:43,319
earlier about the mats versus hitting off turf, and the

593
00:31:43,359 --> 00:31:47,480
mats are a petroleum product. The plastic grass is incredibly slippery.

594
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,920
The foam underneath is pretty forgiving. Now, why don't you

595
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,400
sort of psych yourself out and say, hey, it's okay

596
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,200
to hit you know, half inch behind the ball. See

597
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:56,720
what happens?

598
00:31:56,799 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, I feel like I'm hitting a way that's

599
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:04,440
your best yet.

600
00:32:04,519 --> 00:32:07,559
Speaker 3: No, Yeah, yeah, so we're onto something there. Tried a

601
00:32:07,559 --> 00:32:10,440
couple more. I'll delete to earlier ones, but that's uh,

602
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:11,880
that's a pretty good start right there.

603
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,599
Speaker 1: Yeah. It's been a lot alone where it feels like

604
00:32:15,319 --> 00:32:19,799
don't know why, and that one ballooned.

605
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,079
Speaker 3: That's actually looking good because we can take the two

606
00:32:25,119 --> 00:32:27,920
of those and average them together. Okay, it was slightly thin,

607
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,799
one was slightly thick. What would be ideals if you

608
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,680
just flush one right now? Okay, let's see what we

609
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:49,000
can do. Relax, no thoughts, just swing more or less.

610
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:49,279
Speaker 1: Did that?

611
00:32:50,119 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 3: There we go? That's all we need for numbers. Really, yep,

612
00:32:54,279 --> 00:32:56,559
I still don't feel like I hit one that I liked. Well,

613
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:01,000
Like you said, every day is different. Yeah, if somebody's

614
00:33:01,039 --> 00:33:04,519
having a hard time struggling and they are not making

615
00:33:04,599 --> 00:33:06,799
great contact with a given club that we're trying to

616
00:33:06,799 --> 00:33:09,480
do a fitting, you got to work with what you have.

617
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:11,480
So what we did is we took your first shot,

618
00:33:11,519 --> 00:33:13,759
which is a little bit in the thin side, We

619
00:33:13,799 --> 00:33:15,720
got one a little bit in the fat side, and

620
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,480
then your last one was picked pretty clean, and we

621
00:33:18,559 --> 00:33:21,119
take those numbers and average them together. So your speed

622
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,720
went from seventy seven to eighty five, the ball speed

623
00:33:23,799 --> 00:33:25,440
increased to one hundred and twenty three and a half

624
00:33:25,519 --> 00:33:29,359
miles an hour, and your launch angle dropped to twelve

625
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,640
point three. It's a good thing you have a four wood.

626
00:33:32,759 --> 00:33:35,519
So now we're going to change the conversation. A lot

627
00:33:35,519 --> 00:33:37,319
of people don't know what a four wood is anymore.

628
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:41,240
You have three woods, and everybody has a three wood

629
00:33:41,279 --> 00:33:43,920
in their bag or thinks they should. Most people do anyway,

630
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:45,920
and a lot of people have three and five woods.

631
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:50,000
The four wood's kind of a forgotten item. Certain manufacturers

632
00:33:50,039 --> 00:33:53,599
carry them, some don't, tailor made kind of hides theirs.

633
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,720
It's a high launched three wood, but it's a seventeen degree.

634
00:33:56,759 --> 00:34:01,359
It's really a four wood on steroids. But I like

635
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:05,319
to change the conversation with my clients and say, what

636
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:09,559
you really need is a fairway driver. Forget the numbers,

637
00:34:10,079 --> 00:34:12,880
because the numbers don't always stack up. Sometimes it's a three,

638
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:14,840
it might be a four, might be a high launch three,

639
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,880
might be a two, might be a five wood, might

640
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:21,519
be a seven wood. And you're talking about beginners versus

641
00:34:21,599 --> 00:34:26,480
more experienced players. Many beginners probably shouldn't hit anything less

642
00:34:26,519 --> 00:34:30,719
than a seven wood starting out because that extra launch

643
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:34,920
angle and loft it creates. The launch angle gives them

644
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,840
a lot more forgiveness and overcomes a lot of swing flaws,

645
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,719
gives them backspin a high launch. If they miss it thin,

646
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,239
they still get most of the launch off. If they

647
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,000
hit it off to the right, it's got so much backspin,

648
00:34:47,039 --> 00:34:49,239
it's hard for the side spin to become dominant. A

649
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,039
higher lofted club is going to be your friend. So

650
00:34:52,119 --> 00:34:54,400
that's probably why Jesse r T's puts you in the

651
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:59,559
seventeen degree over the fifteen is for your swing back

652
00:34:59,559 --> 00:35:04,119
then that is better today, arguably because of the twelve three.

653
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:06,559
And we're switching now, we're going to go over to

654
00:35:06,599 --> 00:35:10,480
our driver optimization chart. We're looking for a faaraway driver.

655
00:35:11,159 --> 00:35:14,840
Something on the average turf conditions that you experience you

656
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,920
can pick off the fairway and as long as possible

657
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,159
when you need to on a long part four par

658
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:24,639
five recovering after you know, punching out of the trees

659
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,119
or something and trying to get home in one so

660
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,599
we can use the driver optimization chart for our fairway wood. Oh,

661
00:35:31,639 --> 00:35:34,239
it's really that easy, because what we're looking for with

662
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,880
the driver optimization chart is to maximize our distance. That's

663
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,400
what we're trying to do here. It's the turf conditions

664
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,079
are different than a t is the only difference. So

665
00:35:43,119 --> 00:35:45,639
we go over here. One hundred and twenty four miles

666
00:35:45,679 --> 00:35:50,440
an hour still keeps us in the regular flex chart bracket.

667
00:35:51,159 --> 00:35:53,639
We go over here and we want to launch a

668
00:35:53,679 --> 00:35:57,880
thirteen to sixteen and we want to spend somewhere between

669
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:01,760
forty four hundred and thirty one hundred RPMs. Now, because

670
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,280
this is a fairway wood, we want to use the

671
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,480
numbers on the higher side because most people aren't going

672
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,480
to chunk a fairway wood. You might do that to

673
00:36:09,519 --> 00:36:11,800
an iron or wedge, but usually you're going to pick

674
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,079
your fairway wood's pretty clean and your mishit's going to

675
00:36:14,079 --> 00:36:18,639
be a thin hite to ye. So we want to

676
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:20,639
air on the side of slightly higher. So we're really

677
00:36:20,639 --> 00:36:23,800
looking for sixteen degrees and maybe as close to twenty

678
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,719
four hundred as possible. Or for play a course where

679
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:28,199
you have to hit over a lot of hazards, we

680
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,119
might want to go for a bit more spin to

681
00:36:30,159 --> 00:36:32,360
be able to come down in a more playable trajectory

682
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,400
and stop on a green, But that depends upon taste

683
00:36:35,519 --> 00:36:38,360
and what you want. But in general, sixteen degrees is

684
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:42,320
a great launch angle. So you've got twelve three on average,

685
00:36:42,679 --> 00:36:45,000
and that's after deleting a couple. That's your three best

686
00:36:45,039 --> 00:36:49,039
out of six. Inner spin is high forty three hundred

687
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,960
Remember I said, shaft technology has gotten better. A modern

688
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:57,079
shaft can probably lower that spin rate. Jesse Ortz puts

689
00:36:57,119 --> 00:37:01,280
in a really soft tipped, easy to hit shaft for

690
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:01,960
most people.

691
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,519
Speaker 1: And a line wasn't thrilled with the chefs that Jesse

692
00:37:05,599 --> 00:37:06,159
put on these.

693
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 3: I'm not going to go that far for you. It

694
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,480
may be a little bit too soft, So I would

695
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:16,599
agree with Dan that way. But you know, Jesse Eertiez

696
00:37:16,679 --> 00:37:19,559
is designing for a certain target market that he's selling

697
00:37:19,639 --> 00:37:22,760
these two, and it works great for a lot of people,

698
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:24,920
especially it's slightly softer swing speeds.

699
00:37:25,559 --> 00:37:27,639
Speaker 1: Is it relevant that Jesse never saw me swinging club

700
00:37:27,679 --> 00:37:30,840
He just saw the numbers that I delivered from of

701
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:38,360
pretty much the clubhead speed, the launch angle, and the spin.

702
00:37:38,599 --> 00:37:39,840
I think that's all I sent him.

703
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:43,760
Speaker 3: He was doing a rough fit based upon fitting feedback

704
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:45,840
from whoever you said, somebody fits you, and then he

705
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,440
did this, Dan fits you, and he took Dan's information

706
00:37:48,519 --> 00:37:52,920
and puts you into this. Yeah. You know the only

707
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,119
thing I might have done differently is I might have

708
00:37:55,159 --> 00:37:58,159
put you in the stiff lex because the stiff lex

709
00:37:58,199 --> 00:38:00,239
would have firmed up and because the shaft to so

710
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,840
much twist and because you have steel. When you go

711
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,599
from steel to graphite, and if you're going to a

712
00:38:06,639 --> 00:38:10,119
softer graphite with a bit more twist in it, there

713
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,840
is no standard for flex. So I might have actually

714
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:15,920
put you in a stiff flex and that would have

715
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,280
brought those spin numbers down a little bit and given

716
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,360
you a little bit more distance perhaps, So do you

717
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,960
want to have this swing something else? Yeah? So that's

718
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:28,519
what we have here. So our distance on your best

719
00:38:28,519 --> 00:38:32,360
shot was one hundred and ninety three and our average

720
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,000
is about one eighty five. What do you see? What

721
00:38:35,039 --> 00:38:37,719
do you expect with this out in the course.

722
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:45,519
Speaker 1: Off the deck? Two ten? But I know that on

723
00:38:45,559 --> 00:38:48,480
the off the tee I can go two twenty okay,

724
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:48,880
And so.

725
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,280
Speaker 3: A perfect hit off of this, that's what you would expect,

726
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,880
and you pull it out if you had two hundred

727
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,320
and twenty, yeah, you know.

728
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,599
Speaker 1: Or more to go, and that's what you would go with.

729
00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:03,039
You use this if it's more than two twenty, Do use.

730
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 3: This off the deck a lot? Or do you go

731
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:05,199
to your three hybrid?

732
00:39:07,119 --> 00:39:09,519
Speaker 1: Both? I do. I use both, and I do like

733
00:39:09,559 --> 00:39:12,239
the three hybrid off the deck for a two hundred

734
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,039
yard shot. One hundred yard.

735
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 3: Shot Okay, So now it is I guess playtime. So

736
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,199
let's see if we can do a little bit better

737
00:39:23,159 --> 00:39:28,159
than one hundred and eighty five to twenty. Okay, let's

738
00:39:28,159 --> 00:39:31,519
see if I get one really nice shot off the tee,

739
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:39,480
see what that distance can be. Okay, there you go. Yeah,

740
00:39:39,559 --> 00:39:44,400
what a difference to teammates. I told you we Wow.

741
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:47,559
I feel like you hit that pretty good.

742
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean lately I will first three or four holes,

743
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,480
I won't even pull out the driver, and I'll hit

744
00:39:54,519 --> 00:39:57,320
this and feel much more confident, much more comfortable. And

745
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,559
then if I'm hitting this well, then on a part

746
00:39:59,639 --> 00:40:04,119
five pull out my driver. But yeah, this this gets

747
00:40:04,119 --> 00:40:04,760
my game started.

748
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 3: So what I did over here at the launch monitors,

749
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,480
I eliminated your first thin hit, So you had one

750
00:40:09,519 --> 00:40:12,760
slightly thin hit, one flushed one, one slightly thick one.

751
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,800
Now we've got better numbers. Now our best shots two

752
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:19,960
hundred on a fly probably two ten was rollout, maybe

753
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:21,480
as much as two twenty. So now we're in the

754
00:40:21,519 --> 00:40:24,159
ballpark of what I think your experience out in the course,

755
00:40:24,559 --> 00:40:31,159
and the our average is around So let's see you

756
00:40:31,159 --> 00:40:32,639
have any brand you want to try.

757
00:40:32,639 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 1: First, Tailor Made seems to be awfully popular. Okay, I

758
00:40:37,519 --> 00:40:41,079
don't bet I have. I like Taylor made a like callaway,

759
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,480
but I've never played ping, and everyone talks about ping.

760
00:40:44,559 --> 00:40:50,199
Nike is definitely in the game to play right now, And.

761
00:40:49,159 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 3: So just while getting familiar, we do the same thing.

762
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:52,440
But I'll have you hit one off the tea first,

763
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:53,800
and then we'll hit a couple off the turf.

764
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 1: Okay, And and what am I holding right now?

765
00:40:56,280 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 3: We are holding a rocket ball's stage high launch three wood,

766
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:08,159
which is seventeen degrees just like yours, except the club

767
00:41:08,199 --> 00:41:10,360
heads a bit lighter, the shaft's a bit longer, the

768
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:15,599
shaft's a bit sturdier, and uh, you've got their wonderful

769
00:41:17,039 --> 00:41:19,480
speed pocket on the bottom, so you get spring off,

770
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,079
the springs off the whole bottom of the face and

771
00:41:22,119 --> 00:41:24,559
your thin hits. You get just as much pop off

772
00:41:24,599 --> 00:41:26,239
the face as you do in a dead center shot.

773
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 1: Oh that's always good to know, should I? Boy, did

774
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:50,000
that sound like an explosion? Oh and hmm, look at.

775
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:53,639
Speaker 3: The ballmark is just a hair low, just a hair

776
00:41:55,039 --> 00:41:57,719
Even though you caught it a bit thin, it sounded

777
00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:59,400
like you caught it dead center. That's the way the

778
00:41:59,679 --> 00:42:02,679
that's way that speed pocket. Interesting, the whole bottom of

779
00:42:02,679 --> 00:42:04,920
the face is it almost bring.

780
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:06,679
Speaker 1: The speed pocket that he's talking about.

781
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:07,519
Speaker 3: Right here.

782
00:42:08,079 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 1: You can see there's that slot right here that you

783
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:12,360
can go inside.

784
00:42:14,159 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 3: That's a little bit of a fade. Let's see, let's

785
00:42:16,559 --> 00:42:26,159
try one more. There you go, it's right down the pipe.

786
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:31,880
We so, whoa, that's what Rocketball Stage two is all about. Wow,

787
00:42:32,639 --> 00:42:36,760
So you just carried both of those. The first one

788
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:40,519
was a slight mishit, yeah, slight, and the second one

789
00:42:41,199 --> 00:42:43,559
you put a nicer turn on it so that your mishit.

790
00:42:44,639 --> 00:42:48,599
It flew a one yard further statistically, the same yardage

791
00:42:49,079 --> 00:42:53,199
as as yours, and then the last one flew another

792
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:59,199
nine yards, ten yards beyond yours. Spin rates actually aren't

793
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:03,639
much better. I'm not sure exactly why that is, but

794
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,639
your launch angle, look at that, it's much lower.

795
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 1: Yeah.

796
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,559
Speaker 3: So but that's off the tea. Let's see what happens

797
00:43:11,559 --> 00:43:15,280
off the turf. So we'll leave that good one in there.

798
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 1: So this would be because now I'm hitting this one

799
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,760
off the deck. This is the tailor made right the RBZ.

800
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 3: Here we go, looking pretty good.

801
00:43:45,639 --> 00:43:51,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, that looks really neat. Well, this is a fun

802
00:43:51,199 --> 00:43:51,760
video game.

803
00:43:53,199 --> 00:43:57,159
Speaker 3: Every Man cave should have one, even if you're not

804
00:43:57,199 --> 00:43:57,679
a golfer.

805
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:09,320
Speaker 1: That feel better. Yeah, I'd say so.

806
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,280
Speaker 3: So you're talking about hitting your three wood off the

807
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:15,159
tee starting out the round. For hitting off the tee,

808
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,920
I'm not sure if there's a better fairway wood in

809
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:21,599
the store. And going back to what you're saying about beginners,

810
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,760
a lot of beginners starting out would probably it'd be

811
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,639
a lot easier game to learn if they had a

812
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:30,400
high launched three wood like this to hit off the

813
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,840
te instead of a driver starting out, because the shaft

814
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,440
is shorter, easier to control than a driver, and you

815
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,599
get all that pop all over the face and it

816
00:44:38,639 --> 00:44:44,360
works good so compared to yours. And you're hitting a

817
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:48,920
brand new club here, so your fairway's tried and true,

818
00:44:49,039 --> 00:44:52,960
familiar club. We just went from eighty five miles an

819
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,360
hour to ninety two miles an hour swing speed wise,

820
00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:00,360
ball speed, we picked up nine miles an hour on

821
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,079
the averages best against the best. We have ninety three

822
00:45:03,159 --> 00:45:05,000
and four against ninety and eighty eight.

823
00:45:05,679 --> 00:45:06,599
Speaker 1: Wow, And.

824
00:45:08,199 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 3: Those are off the turf. Our launch angles on the

825
00:45:10,519 --> 00:45:14,639
low side, Our spins a little bit in the high side,

826
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:18,559
but it's the club had speed the balance of this club,

827
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,480
the extra length of the club, the pop off the face.

828
00:45:23,119 --> 00:45:26,880
It's just blowing away your fairway right now, even though

829
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:28,719
the numbers aren't perfect, and the way it got there,

830
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,760
because it's launching a little bit low, spins a little

831
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,840
bit high. Just the first one we tried right here.

832
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:37,840
On average, instead of one hundred and ninety two yards,

833
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:39,519
you have two hundred and five yards. You just picked

834
00:45:39,599 --> 00:45:41,039
up thirteen yards on average.

835
00:45:41,599 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 1: Wow.

836
00:45:42,679 --> 00:45:46,760
Speaker 3: And uh best against the best. We have two twenty

837
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:50,239
one against one ninety nine. You picked up twenty two

838
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:54,360
yards best against best. Carry carry distance. Yeah, now I

839
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,679
use a carry distance. I don't use the total distance

840
00:45:58,199 --> 00:46:02,760
because there's an imaginary fairway. The computer program has an

841
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:06,960
algorithm and it calculates the rollout. We have pretty plush

842
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,800
turf conditions around here, and I'm guessing in the courses

843
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,000
you play here, you're not going to get quite as

844
00:46:12,039 --> 00:46:15,400
much rollout as you know this computer. If you're at

845
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:18,400
a different location, then you probably won't get that much

846
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,679
roll out, but it's going to be close. You would

847
00:46:20,679 --> 00:46:22,920
get up to two hundred and twenty four yards a role.

848
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,280
Some of the courses around here that I know you play,

849
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:30,039
maybe two fifteen two twenty on average, and that's your

850
00:46:30,039 --> 00:46:31,719
best shot was off the turf, not off the t.

851
00:46:32,119 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: Interesting, very interesting. And the offline on that club versus

852
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,559
my club, it's like there's a offline.

853
00:46:38,599 --> 00:46:40,280
Speaker 3: It's a little bit a little bit, a little bit

854
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:44,039
more to the right. So if you'll notice here you

855
00:46:44,199 --> 00:46:49,119
have the area of shaft, that's probably because the shafts

856
00:46:49,119 --> 00:46:53,159
a little bit longer. Yeah, and just the head design

857
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:59,400
you have a slight more right bias. So this club

858
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,000
you probably would have to play with a little bit

859
00:47:01,039 --> 00:47:03,599
more of a fade, and you would put up with

860
00:47:03,679 --> 00:47:06,480
just a little bit more inconsistency. But if you have

861
00:47:06,519 --> 00:47:08,760
to go along, you've got a nice lie, you're swinging

862
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:10,719
good and you want to pick it off the turf

863
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:11,840
or if you want to hit it off the t

864
00:47:12,639 --> 00:47:13,639
starting out your round on.

865
00:47:13,639 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 1: It is a three wood or is this a forewood?

866
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,119
Is this equal to the being the forewood?

867
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 3: It's a high launch threewood high launch. The tailer made's

868
00:47:21,039 --> 00:47:26,320
vernacular okay, which means what means it's a forewood? Okay,

869
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,320
Just like I said, we're looking for a fairway driver

870
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,519
for forget the numbers. It's a great example of so

871
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:34,599
this is a keeper. I think we'll put this one aside.

872
00:47:34,639 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 1: And is that the club that you'd say, you know what,

873
00:47:37,599 --> 00:47:39,639
but before you walk out the store with that club,

874
00:47:39,679 --> 00:47:42,440
I think you need a different shaft on it. Or

875
00:47:42,559 --> 00:47:44,559
would we walk out with that?

876
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,599
Speaker 3: Yeah? Absolutely, So the option on that, because the spin

877
00:47:47,679 --> 00:47:48,840
rates are as high as they are.

878
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 1: That is a low launch, a high launch, low.

879
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 3: Spin shaft that they have on that, but it's creating

880
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,440
a bit more spin than I think is ideal. It

881
00:47:58,519 --> 00:48:01,480
works for you because you're launching on the low side,

882
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,239
so this it starts out low, but the spin takes

883
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,480
it up in the air. The dangers under windy conditions,

884
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,599
it might be a little bit harder to control because

885
00:48:09,639 --> 00:48:11,599
that high spin rate, if you're going into the wind,

886
00:48:11,599 --> 00:48:13,320
would balloon way up in the air and you'd lose

887
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,559
a ton of distance. So if we can bring that

888
00:48:15,679 --> 00:48:16,559
down a bit, it would.

889
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 1: Probably don't take that to bend in dunes.

890
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 3: Maybe not yeah, un those three days a year when

891
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:24,159
it's perfect out there.

892
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:30,079
Speaker 1: So but an alternative would be or else would you send.

893
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,320
Speaker 3: Me, Well, you'd mentioned you wanted to try the Nike Yeah,

894
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:38,199
so here's a Nike covert. Now, the Nike covert. They

895
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:41,920
don't have a four wood in the standard one in

896
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:47,159
the in the tour model, they do have an adjustable

897
00:48:47,199 --> 00:48:49,920
three wood in five woods we can make into four woods.

898
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:53,400
But so what we have here is just a fifteen

899
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:57,199
degree but it's got a really hot face, doesn't have

900
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,079
the speed slot on it. But here we have a

901
00:48:59,079 --> 00:49:03,880
cavity back design and real good heel toe waiting, the

902
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:07,039
weights forward in the face and low. So in theory

903
00:49:07,039 --> 00:49:08,559
this will probably have a little bit less.

904
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 1: BA all right, well, and you get to see this too.

905
00:49:12,559 --> 00:49:27,119
So this is the The Nike covert feels very different

906
00:49:27,159 --> 00:49:35,800
off the face until it felt heavier when it made

907
00:49:36,119 --> 00:49:40,639
impact versus I don't know how I'm describing as heavy

908
00:49:40,679 --> 00:49:44,440
but thicker than I mean. I guess the cavity on,

909
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:47,840
the speed slot on the and the other one makes

910
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,239
a difference. I don't know, it felt it definitely felt different.

911
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:51,199
But let me swing some more.

912
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 3: I mean, it's a part of club head design these

913
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:57,239
days is the acoustic tuning and making a club feel

914
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:00,760
lively to mentally keep someone in aged in the game

915
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:02,360
and feel like they hit a better.

916
00:50:02,159 --> 00:50:06,280
Speaker 1: Shot that one went to the right, I can tell.

917
00:50:08,119 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 3: But so you got plenty of distance that's longer than

918
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:13,159
yours as well. Let's try it one off the tee.

919
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:20,559
Speaker 1: Okay, I felt real good.

920
00:50:21,159 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 3: That looks real good right down the middle. Yep, I

921
00:50:25,519 --> 00:50:28,960
think you caught that a little bit thin. Perhaps really

922
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,360
didn't he like you didn't have as much carry. But

923
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:33,800
so here we go. It's right in there with the

924
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:36,679
tailor made. You're not getting as much clubhead speed out

925
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:39,639
of it as a tailor made, but your launch angle

926
00:50:39,679 --> 00:50:41,840
went up a little bit, your spin went down. Remember

927
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:44,679
I said that the Nike covert head design is a

928
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:45,800
low spin head design.

929
00:50:46,199 --> 00:50:47,280
Speaker 1: It's your spin dropped.

930
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 3: It really is, your spin dropped one thousand rpm. The

931
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:54,320
shaft also could be part of that. The Mitsubishi Kurakagi

932
00:50:55,519 --> 00:51:00,440
red is a very good shaft also, So right there

933
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:03,239
with the tailor Maid within one and a half yards.

934
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:09,079
And this thing statistically isn't that accurate. So you're in

935
00:51:09,119 --> 00:51:11,639
a dead heat right now, your best against your best.

936
00:51:11,679 --> 00:51:13,559
Though the tailor Maid still is a two twenty one

937
00:51:13,639 --> 00:51:16,599
versus two eleven, so it appears the tailor made when

938
00:51:16,599 --> 00:51:19,599
you take both numbers together. The issue is, though in

939
00:51:19,639 --> 00:51:22,519
this one, you seem to have a bias a twenty

940
00:51:22,519 --> 00:51:28,280
two yards right a center, and the only one you

941
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,079
hit straightaws the tea.

942
00:51:30,159 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 1: So that may not be the best one for you

943
00:51:33,679 --> 00:51:37,920
because it's about the tailor made with that sheft with

944
00:51:38,079 --> 00:51:41,840
that because you were commenting, this sheft probably enhanced.

945
00:51:42,199 --> 00:51:45,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, that would be a most of it, though, is

946
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:47,880
I would guess in the head design, by moving the

947
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:50,599
weight forward you can lower spin, And by digging out

948
00:51:50,599 --> 00:51:52,360
the cavity in the back of the club and moving

949
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:56,000
more the weight forward, that's probably as much or more

950
00:51:56,039 --> 00:52:00,800
of the difference in spin. Tailormate actually isn't that much

951
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:02,960
different with all the extra metal with the speed slot.

952
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:05,800
But you know, sometimes you just don't know where it

953
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:10,559
comes from. I can guess and postulate here, and some

954
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:13,800
engineer at the company would probably say, I'm nuts and

955
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:18,079
full of beans. So let's go on a ping.

956
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:23,039
Speaker 1: Okay, immediately, it's got a very different grip. It's got

957
00:52:23,039 --> 00:52:26,679
a very it's a thicker and softer grip.

958
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:28,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, that may take a bit of getting use to.

959
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:31,079
I just pulled out the demos we had here. Yeah,

960
00:52:31,119 --> 00:52:35,280
so in your flex in that loft, that's the one

961
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:36,880
I had, so hopefully.

962
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,280
Speaker 1: And see how it feels kind of neat. I actually

963
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:42,440
kind of liked this softer feel. Well, I never understood

964
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:43,599
what to look for in a grip.

965
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:58,679
Speaker 3: Go go, go, there you go. I like getting off

966
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:03,119
the tea, went off the tant.

967
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 1: Gonna give me the one? Huh Okay, that was so

968
00:53:03,519 --> 00:53:08,800
much fun, all right? So another swing with the ping

969
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:22,400
off the deck now.

970
00:53:18,119 --> 00:53:28,760
Speaker 3: Way right again, and sometimes too when I see somebody

971
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:31,239
hitting it to the right, and and I'm not sure

972
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:32,639
if you're doing this or not, but if you have

973
00:53:32,679 --> 00:53:35,119
some steering thoughts in your head trying to redirect that, no,

974
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:38,760
why don't you play step back away for sick and

975
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,480
just pick a spot left to center and just just

976
00:53:41,519 --> 00:53:44,119
play a five to ten yard shade, okay, and just

977
00:53:44,519 --> 00:53:46,320
be comfortable with it and swing.

978
00:53:47,559 --> 00:53:48,360
Speaker 1: Ook at it.

979
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:57,360
Speaker 3: Sometimes when you do that and you take those steering

980
00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:01,159
thoughts out, you actually swing and you swing free and

981
00:54:01,199 --> 00:54:04,079
release and you lose a lot of the fade just

982
00:54:04,119 --> 00:54:07,320
a little bit. So that was that was pretty dead

983
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:09,280
straight there. So we'll look at the numbers on the

984
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:15,320
ping speed wise right in between the nike and the

985
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:20,559
tailor made ball speed wise the same launch closer to

986
00:54:20,559 --> 00:54:25,760
the tailor made and uh spin numbers right in between

987
00:54:26,679 --> 00:54:31,760
and h carry distance right in there with them, and

988
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:37,599
uh the differences though on the offline U S.

989
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:40,039
Speaker 1: One was it's it's it's it's.

990
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 3: A little bit straighter there.

991
00:54:41,119 --> 00:54:41,360
Speaker 1: Yeah.

992
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 3: So the last one, that's a big one. I'm gonna

993
00:54:45,119 --> 00:54:47,480
unless you love the Nike, I'm gonna scrap that right now.

994
00:54:47,519 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 1: I would scrap. Okay, just keep in mind the shaft

995
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:55,360
you like. And uh so what do you want to

996
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:56,519
try next? What do you got?

997
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 3: Well, looks like you got always one of those. It

998
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,159
seems like a four or even a five wood might

999
00:55:03,199 --> 00:55:04,920
be the fairway driver of choice for you.

1000
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:07,840
Speaker 1: And why would you go five wood on the uh

1001
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:11,400
callaway versus what you were doing with the others?

1002
00:55:15,079 --> 00:55:17,199
Speaker 3: Me put a little bit of tape on. Sure, Sure

1003
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:20,639
I didn't do that before we started today.

1004
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:22,360
Speaker 1: Uh well, not necessarily on the.

1005
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 3: Callaway only, But because you're launching consistently slow low with

1006
00:55:31,039 --> 00:55:35,199
all of these clubs for your fairway driver, my recommendation

1007
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:37,480
might be to put you into a five wood hmm.

1008
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:46,840
And and if we if we do that and the

1009
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:49,440
company can re swing away the club and lighten it

1010
00:55:49,519 --> 00:55:51,960
up to like a three wood, and we can build

1011
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:54,599
it to three wood length, you'd have a super high

1012
00:55:54,639 --> 00:55:57,079
launched three wood, and that might be the longest thing

1013
00:55:57,079 --> 00:55:57,320
for you.

1014
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:04,840
Speaker 1: Callaway ex hot. Now I've got a white shaft which

1015
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:09,039
is really distracted. Alright, this one I'm hitting off the

1016
00:56:09,079 --> 00:56:18,599
t dead straight. Oh my gosh, that is going right

1017
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:23,119
down the line and hit the line and it's rolling

1018
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:27,320
down the line. Oh okay, I need to hit more

1019
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:28,920
when you're not here, Nick.

1020
00:56:29,559 --> 00:56:31,599
Speaker 3: I did that on purpose, especially, it's all part of

1021
00:56:31,599 --> 00:56:32,719
the fitting. I'll disappear again.

1022
00:56:33,039 --> 00:56:41,079
Speaker 1: Don't do that.

1023
00:56:41,079 --> 00:56:41,840
Speaker 3: That wasn't me at all.

1024
00:56:42,559 --> 00:56:44,199
Speaker 1: No, it wasn't because that was going right up the

1025
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:49,079
line too, and farther a little bit off, a little

1026
00:56:49,079 --> 00:56:50,960
bit off, and.

1027
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 3: I'm going to delete the ping right now.

1028
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:54,280
Speaker 1: Oh really?

1029
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, yeah. The numbers on the ping clearly the

1030
00:57:02,079 --> 00:57:06,519
both the tailor made and the callaway for you seem

1031
00:57:06,599 --> 00:57:20,119
to be straighter and longer and more consistent. You really

1032
00:57:20,119 --> 00:57:21,760
did hit the line on that other shot, didn't you.

1033
00:57:22,119 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 1: I literally bounce and then just rolled on the white

1034
00:57:25,719 --> 00:57:27,320
as it was a yo yo or something.

1035
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:31,599
Speaker 3: You know. I think their fitting's over. Oh that's the club.

1036
00:57:31,719 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 1: This is the club.

1037
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 3: That's the club.

1038
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 1: Would have an over show. Tell me more.

1039
00:57:38,599 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 3: Callaway so slightly slower swing speed than the tailor than

1040
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:49,719
both than the tailor made, and even just a hair

1041
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:53,039
slower than the paying Okay, but the key is see

1042
00:57:53,039 --> 00:57:55,719
that launch at twelve four. Yeah, that's the highest launch.

1043
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:58,559
It's the closest one to yours. So what we're looking

1044
00:57:58,599 --> 00:58:01,920
for is at thirteen to sixty ideally, and this is

1045
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:04,840
it twelve four. So you're at twelve four. Your best

1046
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:08,000
one was at thirteen to seven, so that was off

1047
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:16,360
the tee. Yeah. Well but in any case, launching around

1048
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:19,880
thirteen degrees and spinning around thirty one hundred, the shaft

1049
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:22,360
in that club and the club head designed appears to

1050
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:25,920
be giving you and your swing the best possible launch

1051
00:58:26,239 --> 00:58:30,599
and spin numbers lot lower on the spin numbers a

1052
00:58:30,679 --> 00:58:34,119
lot lower, significantly lower, so even.

1053
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:36,719
Speaker 1: Off of my club, significantly lower. So this is great.

1054
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:41,159
Speaker 3: So the Callaway also carried seven yards further rounded than

1055
00:58:41,199 --> 00:58:43,280
the tailormaid and.

1056
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:46,199
Speaker 1: Almost twenty yards further than my club.

1057
00:58:46,639 --> 00:58:51,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it rolled out another three yards on top

1058
00:58:51,559 --> 00:58:53,639
of it or four yards on top of it, and

1059
00:58:53,679 --> 00:58:57,079
you got eleven yards over the tailor made and twenty

1060
00:58:57,079 --> 00:58:58,199
three yards over years.

1061
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:01,440
Speaker 1: And to me, the most graphic thing that we're looking

1062
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:04,119
at here comparing my club to the tailor made to

1063
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:06,880
this callaway or wait, we're looking at the ping.

1064
00:59:07,519 --> 00:59:08,199
Speaker 3: I didn't change.

1065
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:12,199
Speaker 1: Okay, so this is the callaway? Is that my offline numbers?

1066
00:59:12,239 --> 00:59:15,199
Speaker 3: Straight down, straightly down there, You're straight down the middle.

1067
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 1: Straight down the middle on this one.

1068
00:59:17,679 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 3: So longer, longer, straighter, longer on a carry, straighter, better trajectory,

1069
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:27,199
more roll out everything. Wow, I'm not sure if we

1070
00:59:27,239 --> 00:59:30,440
can beat that. Yeah, I mean I was making a

1071
00:59:30,519 --> 00:59:34,000
bit was over because you hit the line, But it

1072
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:38,079
appears that is indeed done.

1073
00:59:38,239 --> 00:59:42,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, on that absolutely. Although really find this shaft distracting?

1074
00:59:43,599 --> 00:59:49,119
Why the white care? Get used to it?

1075
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 3: According to the numbers, you weren't distracted or whatever you

1076
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:55,920
were distracted thinking about certainly worked. Maybe the shaft distraction

1077
00:59:57,239 --> 00:59:58,719
I took you out of your own head and you

1078
00:59:58,760 --> 00:59:59,960
put down a better swing. Who knows.

1079
01:00:00,519 --> 01:00:03,119
Speaker 1: Okay, so get over it. It's like that's not going

1080
01:00:03,199 --> 01:00:05,480
to be the thing that stops you from making a purchase.

1081
01:00:05,559 --> 01:00:07,199
Right is the color of the shaft.

1082
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 3: I don't think we need an optional shaft. It's a

1083
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:12,679
great shaft, good clumbhead is working great and both off

1084
01:00:12,679 --> 01:00:15,199
the tee and off the Okay, I think.

1085
01:00:15,199 --> 01:00:18,079
Speaker 1: So we've we got it on the fairway with now

1086
01:00:18,079 --> 01:00:21,440
where we go, So it's so much fun.

1087
01:00:22,519 --> 01:00:26,039
Speaker 3: Now we go over here and we'll go ahead, we

1088
01:00:26,079 --> 01:00:29,559
can delete your fairway information. We don't need that, and

1089
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:31,679
we go over here and delete the tailor made. We

1090
01:00:31,719 --> 01:00:35,719
no longer need that. And so now we have one

1091
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:39,039
hundred and sixty four yards on in your five iron,

1092
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:43,480
and we have two hundred and twelve yards here. Now

1093
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:44,480
we need to fill in the holes.

1094
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so that would be the hybrids.

1095
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:50,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, that'd be two or three hybrids. Okay, because we

1096
01:00:50,119 --> 01:00:56,639
need to go thirty five forty seven, forty seven yards,

1097
01:00:57,239 --> 01:01:03,559
So if we go fifteen fifteen fifteen, probably two hybrids

1098
01:01:03,599 --> 01:01:05,360
if we could hit, if we could hit one eighty

1099
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:08,760
and one, a couple of hybrids, and.

1100
01:01:08,679 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 1: That's what I would pull out for the hybrids that

1101
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:12,679
I have. You would, yeah, I mean those are the

1102
01:01:12,719 --> 01:01:22,280
numbers that I would look to. Yeah, one eighty and yeah.

1103
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:28,440
Speaker 3: Yes, So you want to hit a couple with your

1104
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:31,320
let's start with the uh this one here.

1105
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:34,119
Speaker 1: Okay, this is the four hybrid. This is mine, So.

1106
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:39,440
Speaker 3: With a fairway? Would I was fitting you mostly for

1107
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:41,840
distance because I know that's what most people want. Yeah,

1108
01:01:42,159 --> 01:01:44,559
but but I want I've been, we finish up with

1109
01:01:44,599 --> 01:01:45,239
the accuracy.

1110
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:48,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the accuracy distance is great, But as

1111
01:01:48,039 --> 01:01:50,239
long as I know what my distance is, I'm fine now.

1112
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 3: But accuracy is far more important now. With the hybrids,

1113
01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:57,599
it's not about distance at all. We don't care how

1114
01:01:57,639 --> 01:02:00,320
far you hit it. We want to hit a number,

1115
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:03,239
and we have different lofts to hit those numbers. With

1116
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:06,199
the hybrids, it's all about accuracy. So what we want

1117
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:09,119
is a couple of hybrids. And intuitively, you can stripe

1118
01:02:09,119 --> 01:02:12,159
off the fairway and hit straight just like you would

1119
01:02:12,199 --> 01:02:14,960
hit your arms right right. So let's see how this

1120
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:15,559
stacks up.

1121
01:02:15,679 --> 01:02:27,320
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, it didn't feel so great, but it went

1122
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:28,039
straight up the middle.

1123
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:29,880
Speaker 3: That was a very nice one.

1124
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:38,960
Speaker 1: Actually. Wow, it went from the center line and went

1125
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:40,519
on the right side of the line, then crossed over

1126
01:02:40,559 --> 01:02:41,000
on the left.

1127
01:02:41,039 --> 01:02:43,559
Speaker 3: That's to me, that's a draw and I don't do that.

1128
01:02:43,559 --> 01:02:45,199
That was the torque effect of a toe hit.

1129
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:53,519
Speaker 1: Okay, No, that was definitely off the toe. Yeah, that

1130
01:02:53,519 --> 01:02:54,039
felt off.

1131
01:02:54,079 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 3: So we've got three, and you know, partially because we

1132
01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:03,719
had such great success with the callaway. With the callaway,

1133
01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:07,079
let's jump right over there and see what happens.

1134
01:03:07,199 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 1: Okay, callaway ex hot come.

1135
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:13,239
Speaker 4: We went.

1136
01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:35,119
Speaker 3: Okay, fireman ready.

1137
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:30,679
Speaker 1: Oh why do you say?

1138
01:03:29,679 --> 01:03:38,679
Speaker 3: Uh, you just carried it a bit beyond yours, but

1139
01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:53,760
also went offline. But let's try again. Okay, so we

1140
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:55,599
got our three shots. Let's take a look at the numbers.

1141
01:03:56,599 --> 01:04:00,360
What was happening with your hybrid is it was launching

1142
01:04:00,519 --> 01:04:03,559
on the way in the high side and with quite

1143
01:04:03,599 --> 01:04:05,079
a bit of spin, so it was ballooning up and

1144
01:04:05,119 --> 01:04:08,000
the wind. I think your hybrid would not be uh

1145
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:12,639
that reliable. So by comparison on the x hoot, instead

1146
01:04:12,639 --> 01:04:16,119
of getting seventy seven miles an hour, you got eighty three, so.

1147
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 1: Picked up six miles an hour on the swing speed.

1148
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:20,239
He picked up some serious speed.

1149
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 3: Your launch was eighteen eight, which was compared to nineteen

1150
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:26,840
seven eighteen four twenty three launched a little bit lower,

1151
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:30,320
so it was much more ideal trajectory.

1152
01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:31,440
Speaker 1: And the spin again the.

1153
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:35,039
Speaker 3: Shaft in the callaway xhot wow, twenty four hundred RPMs

1154
01:04:35,079 --> 01:04:37,599
a spin. If we take the tape, you might pick

1155
01:04:37,639 --> 01:04:41,000
up a little bit more on that, but not really significant.

1156
01:04:41,719 --> 01:04:46,719
And see the descent tangle of forty one. So that's

1157
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:48,760
coming down at a pretty good trajectory.

1158
01:04:49,159 --> 01:04:51,800
Speaker 1: But where did the descent of the ball flight. Is

1159
01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:54,119
that what that is? Yeah, we've not discussed that number.

1160
01:04:55,960 --> 01:05:00,679
Speaker 3: That means we did initially with the irons. If you recall, okay, so.

1161
01:05:00,599 --> 01:05:06,239
Speaker 1: That the descent angles once it reached the peak coming down. Yeah, okay, okay, So.

1162
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:10,000
Speaker 3: You got one ninety five to two hundred and three,

1163
01:05:11,519 --> 01:05:15,599
so it's about ten to fifteen yards short. That would

1164
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:20,760
fill right in, and we're twelve yards right of center

1165
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:25,119
on average compared to twenty six forty one on average,

1166
01:05:25,159 --> 01:05:27,800
you're about twenty thirty yards right of center on your hybrid.

1167
01:05:28,159 --> 01:05:31,239
So we got you straighter, and we got one of

1168
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:34,679
the distances plugged. So from this, it appears a five

1169
01:05:34,719 --> 01:05:38,840
and a six hybrid would work out really good to

1170
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:40,920
plug in the holes and the six would drop back

1171
01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:45,199
up probably to one one seventy.

1172
01:05:46,079 --> 01:05:49,039
Speaker 1: And can we try a different brand? Yeah, we can

1173
01:05:49,079 --> 01:05:50,800
try another one, because I mean we went with the

1174
01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:52,599
Callaway in this one because I had such success on

1175
01:05:52,679 --> 01:05:53,559
the three would.

1176
01:05:53,519 --> 01:05:55,280
Speaker 3: Well and there was the reason I went with the

1177
01:05:55,280 --> 01:06:00,119
Callaway too. I ever noticed the offset. Okay, So by

1178
01:06:00,119 --> 01:06:03,119
have example and that obviously that allows me to hit straighter.

1179
01:06:03,159 --> 01:06:07,559
Probably our best hybrid in the store is going to

1180
01:06:07,599 --> 01:06:13,079
be the rocketballs and take out their five and give

1181
01:06:13,119 --> 01:06:13,719
that a whirl.

1182
01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:21,320
Speaker 1: So this got this this swing slink that.

1183
01:06:18,519 --> 01:06:22,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the rocketball Stage two rocketball and it has

1184
01:06:22,239 --> 01:06:23,639
the as the speed slot.

1185
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:25,159
Speaker 1: Speed slot, that's what it is.

1186
01:06:25,599 --> 01:06:26,719
Speaker 3: I think that's what they call it.

1187
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:28,679
Speaker 1: Okay, that's what you're calling it.

1188
01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:33,159
Speaker 3: Something like that. We'll get letters. That's not what they

1189
01:06:33,199 --> 01:06:33,559
call it.

1190
01:06:37,639 --> 01:06:44,960
Speaker 1: Like that one. There you go. Now we're gonna hit

1191
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:48,119
it out the deck. It's good to see there's other

1192
01:06:48,119 --> 01:06:49,400
people trying out clubs here.

1193
01:06:52,199 --> 01:06:52,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1194
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:56,960
Speaker 1: I hit that h and I felt like I didn't

1195
01:06:57,000 --> 01:06:57,480
hit it.

1196
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:01,639
Speaker 3: You're actually in that one really straight. Yeah, So coming over,

1197
01:07:01,679 --> 01:07:07,599
we'll compare those gallaway really quick. And as you can see,

1198
01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:11,039
your swing speed's about the same. Yep, your launch came

1199
01:07:11,119 --> 01:07:14,199
way down to thirteen eight And is that a good

1200
01:07:14,239 --> 01:07:18,079
thing with the hybrid for you? That's on a twenty

1201
01:07:18,119 --> 01:07:22,119
five degree hybrid. That's that's pretty low. And you'll hear

1202
01:07:22,199 --> 01:07:23,519
spin went up to forty one hundred.

1203
01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:25,039
Speaker 1: RPMs from twenty four hundred.

1204
01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:27,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're better off launching high with a little bit

1205
01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:31,519
less spin. Yeah, And so that and my distance was down.

1206
01:07:31,679 --> 01:07:35,360
That's why your distance fell off twenty yards hybrid's hybrids

1207
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:38,239
are bones in it down the line you were, that's

1208
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:44,840
the trade off. Intuitively, it's probably even though this doesn't

1209
01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:49,960
have the offset, it's tailor made's black face white. It's

1210
01:07:50,039 --> 01:07:52,920
their trademark and one end, and some people scoff at it,

1211
01:07:53,239 --> 01:07:54,920
But a lot of people do see the line off

1212
01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:58,320
the face a lot better. So now we have a choice,

1213
01:07:58,679 --> 01:08:00,920
do you want the distance of the exot or do

1214
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:04,840
you want do you want the alignability of this? But

1215
01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:07,199
this isn't launching, we would have to go. The problem

1216
01:08:07,199 --> 01:08:08,880
we're gonna run into with this is we're already up

1217
01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:11,079
to five and we can go to a six, we

1218
01:08:11,159 --> 01:08:16,000
can't go and the loft is really way too low.

1219
01:08:16,079 --> 01:08:17,720
So if we drop down to a four to get

1220
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:20,319
our distance back, our launch angle is going to drop.

1221
01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:24,760
So even though you hit this the straightest for your

1222
01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:28,239
swing and positioning in the way way you attack the ball,

1223
01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:30,439
that one probably is not going.

1224
01:08:30,239 --> 01:08:33,479
Speaker 1: To be the best one. Okay, I'm gonna try something else.

1225
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:38,680
Speaker 3: The other one that a lot of people really intuitively

1226
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:42,560
set up with well m is actually the older.

1227
01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:47,880
Speaker 1: The older pings, they look more like.

1228
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:49,760
Speaker 3: The They look like an iron.

1229
01:08:50,319 --> 01:08:52,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they also look at when when the Hybrids

1230
01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:55,319
first came out and they were called rescue clubs, they

1231
01:08:55,399 --> 01:08:56,399
kind of had a face.

1232
01:08:56,279 --> 01:08:58,840
Speaker 3: Like this, didn't they some of the original ones, the

1233
01:08:59,079 --> 01:09:03,399
nick Kents and the original Atoms, right exactly, we're very

1234
01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:07,159
similar and the can't more or less is no more.

1235
01:09:07,239 --> 01:09:10,880
And then Adams has gotten away from it, and the

1236
01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:20,199
new clubs look a little bit different. H wow, there

1237
01:09:20,239 --> 01:09:20,520
we go.

1238
01:09:23,279 --> 01:09:27,279
Speaker 1: Didn't love it, didn't love the hit, but the direction

1239
01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:35,600
seemed to go very well. That felt good, It felt good,

1240
01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:37,600
and it looks good. Oh my gosh, it's gonna hit

1241
01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:38,960
the weight line and it missed it.

1242
01:09:39,119 --> 01:09:49,840
Speaker 4: Okay, we it's just a little bit offline.

1243
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:51,239
Speaker 3: She looks, look at those numbers.

1244
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:52,600
Speaker 1: Let's see these numbers.

1245
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:57,239
Speaker 3: So our club had speed dropped a little bit. And

1246
01:09:57,720 --> 01:10:01,359
I believe that is because after a bit shorter. Okay,

1247
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:03,760
so it's a bit, it's a bit easier to control.

1248
01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:08,000
And uh, actually it's also because that first hit was

1249
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:10,279
seventy four. You catch that a little bit fat, so

1250
01:10:10,319 --> 01:10:12,760
we could redo that off the tea. In fact time,

1251
01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:14,960
we go ahead and scrap that one because that was

1252
01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:15,760
a bit of a mishit.

1253
01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:17,920
Speaker 1: So then our clubhead speed is do you want me

1254
01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:18,560
to hit one more.

1255
01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:27,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's hit one more off the T. I to

1256
01:10:27,119 --> 01:10:27,960
feel about that one?

1257
01:10:28,079 --> 01:10:31,880
Speaker 1: I liked it? Okay, how did it feel about me?

1258
01:10:32,319 --> 01:10:34,840
Speaker 3: Pretty darn good? Just a little bit longer. That perfect

1259
01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:36,920
hit off the T just what we needed.

1260
01:10:37,239 --> 01:10:39,439
Speaker 1: Good. So now let's see the numbers.

1261
01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:44,760
Speaker 3: Now we'll go look at the numbers, and so what

1262
01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:47,600
we have is, on average were dead center. Wow.

1263
01:10:48,199 --> 01:10:49,119
Speaker 1: Wow, that's closes.

1264
01:10:49,239 --> 01:10:52,840
Speaker 3: And the speed's just about the same or hair lower

1265
01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:55,039
than the rocket ball. It's in the same ballpark. Actually,

1266
01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:59,119
your launch angle is in between, so it's launching higher

1267
01:10:59,159 --> 01:11:03,920
than the rocketballs. And even though you launched it on

1268
01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:06,680
here two point six degrees left, you had three hundred

1269
01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:08,800
RPMs and right hand side spin which brought you back

1270
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:11,439
to center. Your spin numbers are in between. So you

1271
01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:14,119
have a little better green holding ability than the callaway.

1272
01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:19,159
And but you're not gonna blooon up like the tailor

1273
01:11:19,199 --> 01:11:22,119
made in this particular case. And you have like one

1274
01:11:22,159 --> 01:11:24,119
hundred and eighty eight yards and kick and release, say

1275
01:11:24,159 --> 01:11:28,319
one ninety probably one ninety one ninety two would probably

1276
01:11:28,359 --> 01:11:32,600
be going into night screen, which kind of fills that hole. So,

1277
01:11:33,239 --> 01:11:37,640
but the key is the dead center. Ye intuitively, because

1278
01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:40,439
the face on this looks like an iron. You set

1279
01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:44,079
this up dead square, and in my opinion, if you

1280
01:11:44,119 --> 01:11:47,279
can't line up your hybrid and intuitively it doesn't square

1281
01:11:47,319 --> 01:11:50,279
to the target, then you know you should go in

1282
01:11:50,319 --> 01:11:53,159
and check something else out. So I think for you,

1283
01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:56,840
that's a that's a great fit. And so I would

1284
01:11:56,840 --> 01:12:00,399
probably go with a twenty three and a twenty degree.

1285
01:12:01,239 --> 01:12:04,039
Now I would go with a with a twenty three

1286
01:12:04,039 --> 01:12:06,439
degree and the twenty seven degree, okay, And that would

1287
01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:09,119
plug in right in between your four wood at two ten,

1288
01:12:09,760 --> 01:12:13,880
and then you would drop down to one ninety five,

1289
01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:18,640
and then you would drop down to probably one seventy

1290
01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:23,039
five numbers hal your one sixty five, and you have

1291
01:12:23,119 --> 01:12:24,000
really nice spacing.

1292
01:12:24,319 --> 01:12:26,680
Speaker 1: So you think I should stay with my five iron

1293
01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:30,439
the way it is, or replace that with a hybrid or.

1294
01:12:33,159 --> 01:12:34,720
Speaker 3: Kind of like you know, we just we just did

1295
01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:37,920
a few shots because we're limited by time here. You

1296
01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:39,199
know you're gonna know the answer to.

1297
01:12:39,159 --> 01:12:41,880
Speaker 1: That, Okay, all right, well let's let's move with that

1298
01:12:42,079 --> 01:12:44,359
over time. That would probably be the choice then from

1299
01:12:44,439 --> 01:12:45,560
the hybrid side, right.

1300
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:48,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, things, I think these pings intuitively you set up

1301
01:12:48,239 --> 01:12:50,439
and line them up just great. Yeah, So I think

1302
01:12:50,479 --> 01:12:53,279
the older ping g twenties because we're not looking for distance,

1303
01:12:53,319 --> 01:12:55,800
we're just looking for an older club too. We're looking

1304
01:12:55,840 --> 01:12:59,880
for dead straight. So you get a really good value here. Awesome,

1305
01:13:00,159 --> 01:13:02,239
all right, can we do a driver on the driver

1306
01:13:03,079 --> 01:13:04,560
take years out hit a couple.

1307
01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:17,560
Speaker 1: And this again is my Jesse Ortiz Bobby Jones. Definitely

1308
01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:19,079
gonna have to put a different tea up.

1309
01:13:20,319 --> 01:13:22,800
Speaker 3: How's that one look perfect?

1310
01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:27,000
Speaker 1: I actually tee it up based on a spot on

1311
01:13:27,039 --> 01:13:29,760
my finger, so I know it's the same every time.

1312
01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:35,840
Speaker 3: Whatever gives you that consistency, right, It's all about confidence, right, Okay,

1313
01:13:36,399 --> 01:13:50,600
so this was my driver. Now you said earlier you

1314
01:13:52,119 --> 01:13:54,079
often start off any of your three woods off the take,

1315
01:13:54,439 --> 01:13:57,800
and then when you get kind of loose and comfortable, right,

1316
01:13:57,960 --> 01:13:59,760
get to your first wide open hole, then you take

1317
01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:00,399
out a driver.

1318
01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:00,760
Speaker 1: Yep.

1319
01:14:00,840 --> 01:14:03,600
Speaker 3: Okay, so you're not overly confident in your driver.

1320
01:14:05,039 --> 01:14:06,560
Speaker 1: Not every day, some days.

1321
01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:16,119
Speaker 3: Unbelievably, that was pretty good. So come on over, yep,

1322
01:14:16,439 --> 01:14:19,199
and we'll take a look at those numbers. So in

1323
01:14:19,239 --> 01:14:22,319
your driver we go back over to the same optimization

1324
01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:26,520
chart we'll use for the quote fairway driver or your

1325
01:14:28,159 --> 01:14:32,920
callaway forward in this case, but this was designed originally

1326
01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:35,520
for a driver. So we have one hundred and thirty

1327
01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:38,079
five mile hour ball speed puts us in the regular

1328
01:14:38,079 --> 01:14:41,840
flex range. But in the higher side your best swing

1329
01:14:42,079 --> 01:14:44,159
was one thirty eight, so it's a shy the stiff

1330
01:14:44,159 --> 01:14:47,640
flex range. So you could go with the stiff flex

1331
01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:52,159
arguably too so, but for the optimization purposes, we'll use

1332
01:14:52,199 --> 01:14:55,399
the regular flex chart. We want thirteen to sixteen launch

1333
01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:57,520
just like your fairway, and twenty four hundred thirty one

1334
01:14:57,600 --> 01:14:58,760
hundred RPMs to spend.

1335
01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:01,439
Speaker 1: So we're launching at eight point four.

1336
01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:06,000
Speaker 3: We're four four and a half degree shy of the

1337
01:15:06,039 --> 01:15:11,800
lowest decent launch angle to optimize a driver, So your

1338
01:15:12,079 --> 01:15:20,600
driver loft is actually killing your distance. Where'd your driver go?

1339
01:15:22,319 --> 01:15:25,880
So you have a ten to five there? Okay, So

1340
01:15:26,199 --> 01:15:30,039
let's start out with a Nike just because it's probably

1341
01:15:30,119 --> 01:15:35,560
the easiest driver to adjust in tune. And what we're

1342
01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:39,960
gonna do really quick, because you play for that fade

1343
01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:44,920
is we're gonna take it apart here and we're gonna

1344
01:15:44,920 --> 01:15:47,399
go from ten to five all the way up to

1345
01:15:47,439 --> 01:15:55,000
twelve five and sort of go right up there, and

1346
01:16:00,279 --> 01:16:06,920
then we're also going to set it. Oops, did I

1347
01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:11,399
say this was the easiest to adjust. So it's just

1348
01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:13,399
really simple. You dial in your loft, you dial in

1349
01:16:13,479 --> 01:16:15,399
your bias. We'll give you a little bit of a

1350
01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:19,239
left bias, and.

1351
01:16:19,239 --> 01:16:21,920
Speaker 1: Once it's set, you're done. If you have all your

1352
01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:22,960
numbers correct, you.

1353
01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:24,760
Speaker 3: Have all your numbers screen. The only thing is, like

1354
01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:28,119
you mentioned bandon or if you're playing into scramble, you

1355
01:16:28,119 --> 01:16:29,680
want to go for that long drive or something, you

1356
01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:31,399
can drop your loft down to keep it out of

1357
01:16:31,399 --> 01:16:31,760
the wind.

1358
01:16:32,119 --> 01:16:34,880
Speaker 1: Is this a problem that there's tape stuck on here?

1359
01:16:40,039 --> 01:16:40,640
Speaker 3: That's pretty good.

1360
01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:43,079
Speaker 1: So this is the one I was telling you about.

1361
01:16:43,119 --> 01:16:45,039
A friend of mine had and I just I don't

1362
01:16:45,119 --> 01:16:47,680
usually do this, but he had just won this in

1363
01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:49,640
a contest and I said, oh, let me hit it.

1364
01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:53,079
And I didn't take a big swing. It was like,

1365
01:16:53,399 --> 01:16:58,000
take a nice, easy swing and it out drove my

1366
01:16:58,079 --> 01:17:00,560
two best drives of the day by twenty five five yards.

1367
01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:01,600
Speaker 3: Wow. Yeah.

1368
01:17:01,760 --> 01:17:03,560
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, I think I need to go

1369
01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:05,680
get fit again and see if this, in fact I

1370
01:17:05,720 --> 01:17:07,319
do it. On is the wrong driver for me.

1371
01:17:09,399 --> 01:17:12,079
Speaker 3: The only thing I want to do is if you

1372
01:17:12,119 --> 01:17:14,600
play a fade with yours normally on this one, I

1373
01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:16,479
just want you to target it right dead straight.

1374
01:17:17,159 --> 01:17:20,399
Speaker 1: See, sometimes sometimes I hit it dead straight. I mean

1375
01:17:20,439 --> 01:17:22,600
I'll lame for dead straight, and sometimes it happens.

1376
01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:25,560
Speaker 3: That's well, when wet and the bias built into this,

1377
01:17:25,720 --> 01:17:29,079
maybe I hit it a few more times.

1378
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:32,880
Speaker 1: That one we got right.

1379
01:17:33,920 --> 01:17:35,960
Speaker 3: So we'll take it up to these three about the

1380
01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:40,680
same clubhead clubhead speed and the same ball speed. You know,

1381
01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:43,520
the face inserts are kind of controlled by the USGA,

1382
01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:45,439
so you're beginning about the same speed and the same

1383
01:17:45,439 --> 01:17:49,479
pop off the face and the difference here we went

1384
01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:51,039
from eight four up to ten four. We gained a

1385
01:17:51,079 --> 01:17:53,680
couple degrees of launch, and that included the ones that

1386
01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:56,399
hit it six to four. So if we take that out,

1387
01:17:57,199 --> 01:18:00,279
then we're averaging right around thirteen or twelve thirty, which

1388
01:18:00,319 --> 01:18:02,880
is about where we want to be, and our spin

1389
01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:05,880
rate is about the same. But if we can come

1390
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:09,479
in at that launch angle with a little bit of spin,

1391
01:18:10,199 --> 01:18:12,479
the that gets us out there. We have about five

1392
01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:16,399
and a half six yards of extra carry average the

1393
01:18:16,399 --> 01:18:21,520
best over best we have to eighteen two twenty. Actually

1394
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:24,039
the best one with yours was a bit longer, but

1395
01:18:24,079 --> 01:18:26,640
it was a forty yard left center full hook. So

1396
01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:28,720
we'll do is we'll take both of those out since

1397
01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:30,359
both of those balls are gone and he's in the

1398
01:18:30,399 --> 01:18:34,640
two best and the two best, so so hit.

1399
01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:35,319
Speaker 1: This one straighter.

1400
01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:40,520
Speaker 3: So you hit it straight there and further and without

1401
01:18:40,560 --> 01:18:42,439
better launch. It's five degrees.

1402
01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:48,199
Speaker 1: Interesting, but maybe there's something better. Yeah, you seem to

1403
01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:49,079
keep doing this.

1404
01:18:49,239 --> 01:18:50,119
Speaker 3: Try the titleist.

1405
01:18:50,239 --> 01:18:51,680
Speaker 1: Okay, now we're going titleist.

1406
01:18:52,199 --> 01:18:54,079
Speaker 3: We'll just stay with the titleist and then I'll get

1407
01:18:54,079 --> 01:18:55,039
the table and makes money.

1408
01:18:55,159 --> 01:19:18,079
Speaker 1: All right? Well yeah, m we the offline was good

1409
01:19:18,079 --> 01:19:23,039
on that. The distance wasn't bad either. Let's try again.

1410
01:19:24,159 --> 01:19:27,520
Don't try to kill it either, mkay. Let's try the

1411
01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:35,399
R one Okay, and this being the next Tailor made

1412
01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:40,840
R one, the white the painted white head. You can

1413
01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:43,600
see the line better as it's making the contact. That

1414
01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:45,520
white really stands out. Interesting.

1415
01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:56,119
Speaker 3: Well, based upon the three hits, I don't think this

1416
01:19:56,159 --> 01:19:56,800
is the one for you.

1417
01:19:58,159 --> 01:19:59,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't like it.

1418
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Speaker 3: We'll give it one more, Troy. There you go. It's

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the longest one. Yeah, that's the reason why Tailor made

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01:20:12,439 --> 01:20:13,520
is number one driver and golf.

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Speaker 1: Interesting.

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01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:20,039
Speaker 3: So let's speak of those numbers and see what we

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01:20:20,039 --> 01:20:22,279
got here. So first off, I'll go over to this

1424
01:20:22,359 --> 01:20:25,359
screen here so you can just see what the trajectories are.

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01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:30,560
The white one is down kind of low right there.

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01:20:31,039 --> 01:20:33,720
Let me see our shot circles right here. Noticing the

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01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:35,600
tailor maid has got the one. Well, we didn't delete

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01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:39,760
the one. We didn't well, we deleted a bunch, but

1429
01:20:39,880 --> 01:20:43,000
taking your two best shots, you still had the biggest

1430
01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:47,760
shot circle by far of all the clubs and going

1431
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:50,840
all over the place. Yea, and the shot circles for

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01:20:51,119 --> 01:20:58,600
your club and the titleist and the.

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01:20:56,880 --> 01:21:01,079
Speaker 1: Thing paying the covert who were oh we different did

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01:21:01,079 --> 01:21:02,039
a Calloway driver did?

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01:21:02,319 --> 01:21:06,800
Speaker 3: No, we didn't so yeah, And looking at the numbers,

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01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:08,640
the tailor made you seem to be all over the

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01:21:08,680 --> 01:21:11,279
map and have had an awful t hard time hitting Yeah,

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01:21:11,319 --> 01:21:13,680
for whatever reason. It could have been the balance could

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01:21:13,680 --> 01:21:16,520
be the colors could be your you're worn out and

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01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:22,439
we won't want to finish this another time. But both

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01:21:22,520 --> 01:21:25,920
the both the titleist and the Nike were longer than yours.

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01:21:25,920 --> 01:21:29,720
And the biggest change is loft, right is you need?

1443
01:21:30,399 --> 01:21:34,359
You need twelve degrees plus or minus uh plus a

1444
01:21:34,359 --> 01:21:38,720
little maybe loft on your driver, and that's gonna get

1445
01:21:38,760 --> 01:21:40,560
you up the right way changle. The Titleist was set

1446
01:21:40,600 --> 01:21:42,920
for eleven degrees. The Nike was set for twelve and

1447
01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:45,279
a half, and you see have nine degrees to twelve

1448
01:21:45,319 --> 01:21:52,079
point four compared to your seven point six. And and

1449
01:21:52,119 --> 01:21:54,840
then you have the side spin. Yours had fifteen hundred

1450
01:21:55,239 --> 01:21:58,199
seventy five RPMs a slice spin on it. The Nike

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01:21:58,319 --> 01:22:02,000
had eight hundred. Titleists only had five. So the titleist

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is flying the straightest of the bunch. Spin rate, your

1453
01:22:06,239 --> 01:22:08,680
back spin was the lowest on the titleist. Probably the

1454
01:22:08,680 --> 01:22:12,000
best shaft of the bunch that they put and done

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01:22:12,159 --> 01:22:15,920
in their h Yeah, that'll be the last one. And

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01:22:16,119 --> 01:22:20,680
uh so the titleist was the longest, and uh we

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01:22:20,720 --> 01:22:22,560
didn't take out the one pole hook, but if we do,

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01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:25,560
then it was the straightest as well.

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01:22:25,720 --> 01:22:28,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, titleist is in the lead right now, and

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01:22:28,199 --> 01:22:30,439
we have one more that we can give a shot.

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01:22:31,039 --> 01:22:37,279
Speaker 3: And that one more there is to make sure I

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01:22:37,319 --> 01:22:41,640
got this set about right. So set square. We're gonna

1463
01:22:41,680 --> 01:22:44,079
give you a little bit of a left bias, okay,

1464
01:22:44,399 --> 01:22:46,239
so you don't have to worry about your slice. You

1465
01:22:46,239 --> 01:22:52,560
can try going right down the middle. And actually this

1466
01:22:52,680 --> 01:22:56,720
one we've got SS for square see is for closed.

1467
01:22:56,800 --> 01:22:59,680
It was for open light up the two lines. This

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01:22:59,840 --> 01:23:03,359
is here we have a slight left side bias and

1469
01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:05,760
we have eleven and a half degrees, which would be

1470
01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:06,560
about right for you.

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Speaker 1: And now we go with the ex hot on the callaway.

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Didn't love the swing.

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01:23:20,239 --> 01:23:21,920
Speaker 3: No, it's not right there, we're just run seck. I

1474
01:23:21,960 --> 01:23:32,079
went over. Yeah, take it look real quick. There's our

1475
01:23:32,119 --> 01:23:35,039
twelve eight thirteen degree launch. There's a twenty four hundred

1476
01:23:35,119 --> 01:23:37,199
RPMs to span two twenty two a Carrey. It just

1477
01:23:37,199 --> 01:23:39,840
smoked everything. And I didn't love the swing, and you

1478
01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:46,880
didn't love the swing? Wow, I do one more yep, wow, Yeah,

1479
01:23:46,920 --> 01:23:48,920
you just don't know what's gonna work best.

1480
01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:52,479
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's amazing. It's amazing that these clubs are not

1481
01:23:52,560 --> 01:23:53,079
all the same.

1482
01:23:53,159 --> 01:23:55,680
Speaker 3: But that's the beauty of having access to all these

1483
01:23:55,720 --> 01:24:01,199
brands and fitting cards as opposed as opposed to just

1484
01:24:01,239 --> 01:24:05,720
having you know, one line of equipment that I'm on

1485
01:24:05,840 --> 01:24:13,600
staff for last thing of the day. I want you

1486
01:24:13,640 --> 01:24:15,079
to play a little draw on this. Start this out

1487
01:24:15,079 --> 01:24:17,640
a bit right, because you appear to be hitting a

1488
01:24:17,640 --> 01:24:32,399
really nice draw without that driver, right wow.

1489
01:24:34,239 --> 01:24:38,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so let's compare the numbers and wrap this

1490
01:24:38,359 --> 01:24:38,920
puppy up.

1491
01:24:41,439 --> 01:24:44,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I don't know you're pretty good at the

1492
01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:45,640
numbers at this point.

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01:24:45,880 --> 01:24:52,920
Speaker 1: The ball speed well, the clubhead speed same as mine. Right, yep,

1494
01:24:54,039 --> 01:25:00,600
ball speed, faster, angle right where we wanted. A twelve right.

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01:25:02,119 --> 01:25:06,439
Speaker 3: Thirteen probably would have been better, but real close.

1496
01:25:07,720 --> 01:25:12,239
Speaker 1: Backspin twenty eight one hundred, twenty nine hundred lower than

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01:25:12,520 --> 01:25:14,880
right smack in the middle. I want to be and

1498
01:25:15,239 --> 01:25:16,880
better than all the other clubs.

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01:25:18,920 --> 01:25:22,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, five hundred better, six hundred better, and nine hundred.

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Speaker 1: Better than on mine.

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01:25:23,720 --> 01:25:29,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, so better launch, the second best launch far, best

1502
01:25:29,359 --> 01:25:34,600
spin rate and carry distance gave me even though you're

1503
01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:37,479
thirty two yards left to center. Yeah, that's the way

1504
01:25:37,520 --> 01:25:39,680
I had the head adjusted, so we can adjust that.

1505
01:25:39,720 --> 01:25:41,600
So we can adjust that back out. But your shot

1506
01:25:41,640 --> 01:25:44,520
dispersion was within one yard of each other. You hit

1507
01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:46,039
the same line each time.

1508
01:25:46,319 --> 01:25:50,159
Speaker 1: Okay, so that's just an adjustment of the club.

1509
01:25:50,359 --> 01:25:51,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, right.

1510
01:25:51,119 --> 01:25:55,760
Speaker 1: And then the distance I smoked everybody on the carry

1511
01:25:56,279 --> 01:25:58,600
it was almost thirty yards more than my.

1512
01:25:58,600 --> 01:26:02,560
Speaker 3: Club, twenty seven yards further than your club on the carry,

1513
01:26:02,600 --> 01:26:08,560
and twenty seven yards twenty eight yards rounded on the

1514
01:26:08,680 --> 01:26:09,119
crawl out.

1515
01:26:09,479 --> 01:26:11,640
Speaker 1: Wow, so this doesn't take a lot of adjustment, but

1516
01:26:11,680 --> 01:26:13,000
you would say this would be my club.

1517
01:26:14,359 --> 01:26:17,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, just adjust it back to neutral. I wouldn't change

1518
01:26:17,319 --> 01:26:17,720
the thing.

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01:26:17,600 --> 01:26:21,039
Speaker 1: Other than that, Wow, So I think twenty to thirty

1520
01:26:21,119 --> 01:26:21,600
yards longer.

1521
01:26:21,600 --> 01:26:23,359
Speaker 3: How many times have you heard that clim yeah.

1522
01:26:23,279 --> 01:26:26,920
Speaker 1: Right exactly on TV but never run this. So basically,

1523
01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:29,680
I think that what we've learned is that these the

1524
01:26:29,720 --> 01:26:35,279
fitting is critically important to really learn the difference in

1525
01:26:35,319 --> 01:26:37,600
all the clubs because they're so radically different that it's

1526
01:26:37,680 --> 01:26:41,119
really important to get fitted to find out what's best

1527
01:26:41,119 --> 01:26:42,840
for you. And we're all over the map. We're on

1528
01:26:43,199 --> 01:26:50,119
Callaway Ping PINGA, the hybrids, Calabrids and Callaway D and

1529
01:26:50,159 --> 01:26:50,479
the driver.

1530
01:26:50,600 --> 01:26:53,319
Speaker 3: But it's important to have an open mind, yeah, because

1531
01:26:55,119 --> 01:26:58,039
for different reason. There's so much technology and there's so

1532
01:26:58,119 --> 01:27:01,880
much performance built into these drivers. But everybody's different. They

1533
01:27:01,880 --> 01:27:04,359
see something different, they put it down, they swing different.

1534
01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:09,800
They something about the club bugs them or they like it.

1535
01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:12,479
The balances are slightly different, the shafts are slightly different.

1536
01:27:13,000 --> 01:27:15,920
And making sure that you I mean, you walked in

1537
01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:18,600
here with a ten point five ten point five degree

1538
01:27:18,640 --> 01:27:22,159
and you're looking at eleven point five and you're walking

1539
01:27:22,199 --> 01:27:24,279
in with a five year old shaft and you're going

1540
01:27:24,279 --> 01:27:26,079
out with one of the best standard shafts in golf

1541
01:27:26,159 --> 01:27:29,159
right now. But as you can see, the club head

1542
01:27:29,159 --> 01:27:31,439
speed and pop off the face is actually pretty similar

1543
01:27:31,479 --> 01:27:34,560
because the USGA is regulating that. So it really is

1544
01:27:34,640 --> 01:27:37,199
a lot of it is really about to fit Nick.

1545
01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:41,520
Thank you again, Thanks again, Buddy, I really appreciate it.

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01:27:41,600 --> 01:27:46,760
Speaker 1: That was awesome. The key is you need to get fitted. Clearly,

1547
01:27:47,319 --> 01:27:51,319
every club had a different reaction to my swing, different results,

1548
01:27:51,880 --> 01:27:54,920
and we found the clubs that work best for me.

1549
01:27:55,760 --> 01:28:00,720
Got to get fitted for your clubs. Never let me

1550
01:28:00,760 --> 01:28:04,319
know you al anyway. M