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was really that was that was cool?
Speaker 3: Anyways.
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Speaker 5: Hello and welcome.
Speaker 1: Thanks forget your pawn on, Thanks for telling a friend,
and that's how we spread the word about the pirate ship.
Call about the Stanley episode. Going back in radio days,
I was hired by stan Maine, but so was Rich
the bull Gendler. You're you're what's up? You're a Stanley
higher right at CMO.
Speaker 6: I absolutely, yes, sir, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5: Let me see your audio is a little there we go?
Speaker 6: Is that better?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Actually it is? Yeah. What's happening on doing my mic?
Speaker 3: I just got a new rap top and I'm just
a botard when it comes to anything technically uh.
Speaker 6: Involved, I'm just I'm so stupid.
Speaker 3: Anyway, I need to take some tips from you, because
you absolutely know what you're doing.
Speaker 1: I don't. I just uh, I just I don't know.
I kind of lucked out, you know. It's all good,
looks beautiful, it's going fine.
Speaker 5: That's the way it is.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 5: What's that hap to be?
Speaker 6: Aboard the ship?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 1: I'm glad you're aboard the ship. Actually, I'm very glad.
Lots of things to talk to bull about, everything from radio.
I even put some radio hypotheticals together that probably would
be too inside but for us. But we got to
start with the big news of the day. Oh yeah,
I mean the big news of the day. Come on,
you know, yeah, the big news.
Speaker 6: You know that big news. Everybody knows the big news.
Speaker 1: The comments to the article were my favorite. It's about
Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey getting engaged, and I think
they did this a while ago, and they kept it
under wraps for I don't know, a couple of weeks
or whatever. And the comments are the best, like Travis
and his brother are too ill mat or drunks somebody
else saying that I hope she has an iron clad
well let's see here.
Speaker 5: Her music is.
Speaker 1: Redundant whining, always about finding a man. If I tripped
over a song, wouldn't even know it. They say Travis
is unintelligent. I hope she does a platinum clad prenup.
Speaker 3: Look, I mean I think he should do a platinum
clad prem up. Quite frankly. Yeah, I know she's got
way more money than he does, but you know, based
on her history, oh and all of like he should
in his preenup. Yeah, when that song is written about him,
he better all.
Speaker 6: The royalties, right, I mean, that better be his song.
Speaker 1: If there's about the Yeah, if there's a divorce, I
think that Isn't there a song called high school or
something that is about him?
Speaker 5: Because she didn't get.
Speaker 6: Asking me about Taylor Swift? Yeah, like Taylor's songs and music.
Speaker 1: Seriously, Yes, I am.
Speaker 5: I seriously have because I don't.
Speaker 7: Know almost sixty year old man, I couldn't, but don't
if you ask me, don't you have nieces or anything that?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 1: No, wait wait wait wait wait wait, you're married. Your
wife probably has somewhat of a familiarity. I'll put it
that way. With with Taylor Swift, I'll.
Speaker 3: Be totally honest there is a Taylor Swift double album.
Don't ask me which one in the record collection in
the bullhousehold.
Speaker 5: I knew it.
Speaker 1: I knew it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, no Amy to buy it?
Speaker 1: Yes, all right, well well there you go. Uh well, look,
some people think that this is going to make him
play terrible this season, and look, as a Bills fan,
I think that would be great.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, people, look, he had a terrible year
last year. But where did he have his best games
in the playoffs?
Speaker 5: In the playoffs, he shows he killed.
Speaker 6: People in the playoffs. He was terrible in the regular season,
and he killed people in the playoffs.
Speaker 5: He did.
Speaker 1: That is a very true statement. I always worry about
that a little bit. I mean when you're watching the team,
and I know you've been watching hard knocks, Uh, what
do you think? Because they I think they're down to
the fifty three man roster they are today, right, So
I saw that Frank Gore Junior was released, but maybe
to the practice squad. I don't know. But I mean,
how are you feeling about the team overall?
Speaker 3: I mean I should feel super confident, right, I mean,
all all the coaches are in place, your quarterback is
in place. He's completely healthy. Obviously, they bubble wrapped him
for the entire preseason on purpose because he doesn't need practiced.
He doesn't have to play against backups. It's just silly, right,
so why bother?
Speaker 6: And I get it. I totally get it. And and
and Kirk doesn't have to like the starters don't have
to play.
Speaker 5: I get it.
Speaker 6: To totally get it. And oh, by the way, I
think the coaching staff feels the.
Speaker 3: Same way I do, because a they didn't play any
of those guys, and be all the guys that got
cut were really there was no shocks as far.
Speaker 6: As I'm concerned.
Speaker 3: Of all the people who got cut, I mean, maybe
Dane Jackson, but Dane Jackson did not have a good preseason.
Maybe Leviscus Shinal because I think everybody thought he was
going to be the kick returner.
Speaker 6: Maybe kJ Hammler.
Speaker 3: Speaking of Hard Knocks, because he was like so popular
during a Hard Knocks and he was funny with his
scooter and all that routine and that was that was great.
And he's really quick and he can do some stuff.
He's twitchy like that. But like, I don't know, I
think all in all, everything's right, But you know, like
guys that I'm still really skeptical about are the same
guys that I think people were skeptical about a year ago.
Speaker 6: Dalton Kink. What can we expect from him?
Speaker 8: Is he finally going to be a number one first
round pick guy with kind of with that kind of production,
with an eighty catch year or you know, a nine
to twelve touchdown catch year, that would be awesome.
Speaker 3: I doubt it because this offense is everybody eats, right,
So I don't know if that guy will ever be
a brock Bowers or any of the elite uh Hockinson
or any of those elite tight ends.
Speaker 6: So but I'm I'm a little nervous about him. What
is he?
Speaker 3: And Shakie is another guy, Like Shakira was on my
station in Buffalo, my TV station that I worked for
the but he does this big pet thing in Buffalo
and he was on it and he seemed to be fine.
But I feel like there have been like virtually no
reports about like his progress. Like it's very very very
almost intentionally vague about him because you've.
Speaker 6: Got to have him back. And then what's key on
Coleman gonna be? I mean, nobody seems to know.
Speaker 3: I hear people saying he's gonna be an all Pro
and he's gonna have this unbelievable breakout season and then
flipping over the defense like Harriston, what is he gonna play?
Speaker 6: Is Trey White gonna be good? Tray White got dinged
in in training cap, Yeah, what happens exactly what we're
afraid of?
Speaker 1: What happened with Trey because he left on this trap.
I never I never followed up.
Speaker 3: It was obviously is a leg thing, but clearly it
wasn't like a tear or a break or anything super serious.
Speaker 5: Okay, So it's something that I.
Speaker 6: Think they're like day to day on with him. But
like that scares me cold this ship, Like what is
he going to be?
Speaker 3: People like, Oh, he's missing tackles and he can't cover,
and he's all these things that he's not. And then
people are saying, well, he was hurt a lot last year,
so he wasn't able to get all the reps that
he could have gotten in his first year. So maybe
this is the year he really matures. YadA, YadA, YadA.
Wrapp didn't plan in the back end.
Speaker 6: Hamlin had his you.
Speaker 3: Know, good days and bad days in the preseason, so
the back end is sketchy. I do like a bunch
of the rookies, though I like Hancock, I like Strong
on the at.
Speaker 6: The corners and the safeties. In terms of depth, I
do like Dan Walker on the interior, and I think T. J.
Sanders as well. I think those guys will be really,
really good. And I think guys like Jordan Phillips and
Deacon Jones are gonna lose their jobs. Even though they
just got Jordan Phillips, I think they're both gonna not
be here when the season starts. Uh, you know, I'm
nervous about the past rush.
Speaker 1: I don't know what post is gonna be, right, I mean, yeah, well,
how about this. There's still a lot of rumors, and
Sports Illustrated just put it out yesterday that Michael Parsons
could be a Buffalo Bill. He's asking for a trade.
I don't know how serious that is, but they keep
having him or the Bills as a landing spot.
Speaker 5: Is that a reality?
Speaker 1: Is that a guy who's I hear different things In
terms of locker room stuff, again, the cancer type thing
is the room in the cap. Would you want Michaeh
Parsons in a Bill's uniform.
Speaker 6: I mean, MICHAEH. Parsons is a game wrecker.
Speaker 3: I mean he he's he's a game plan wrecker, he's
a coach wrecker, he's all those things.
Speaker 6: I mean, the Bills have not had a guy that dominant.
Speaker 3: I mean, you'd have to go back a really really
long time to find a guy that was that good
in terms of past Rushian ability that way. So like, yeah,
I mean I'd love to see him in the Bill's uniform.
And I think he's a.
Speaker 6: Smart kid, and I think he has this sort of
like I don't.
Speaker 3: Know if Kim and Josh Allen are like actually tight
tight Yeah, I think like they are sort of similar
thinking guys. They're hard workers, but they but and they're
exceptional players, but they also not have a little bit
of fun, right, And I think the two of them
sort of have this mutual admiration society.
Speaker 6: I think he'd be great, But the question is, can
Brandon be make it work financially? I don't know. I
don't think so this year, maybe next.
Speaker 3: I Mean, the rumor is that the Cowboys are going
to the play off this contract and then they'll tag them,
and yeah, the Bills can match that tag if they
wanted to, they can match that contract next year. If
that happens, I would I would love to see Michael
Parsons in a Bill's uniform.
Speaker 6: Whether or not it's gonna happen, I don't know. I
really don't.
Speaker 1: I have a question for you. That is your mic
plugged in?
Speaker 6: Oh? I'm sorry it should be. I can hear it
in my headphones? Can you can you hear me?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 6: Is it? Can?
Speaker 5: I can hear it. I can hear it. I just didn't.
Speaker 1: I couldn't tell if it was the mic or the
the computer asking.
Speaker 5: I don't know these things.
Speaker 6: I don't know. Man, as long as you can hear
me on your end, I can hear myself in my headphones.
I'm know if that means anything, but.
Speaker 1: All right, then that that's absolutely.
Speaker 5: That work.
Speaker 3: This whole thing is going to be just mean talking
with no audio and then and people trying to like
think about what I was seeing and make up captions
as they go.
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there but you were down there during the very, lean years,
you know and that's where the. True FANS and i grew,
up DOWNSTATE so i Was a, giants fan but being
around the players and having interviewed, the players you couldn't
help but root for, the players and THROUGH that i
became a fan Of. The bills would you rather now
be on the sideline as a reporter or be able
to enjoy the games for what they? Are today versus
do you understand, they're, saying like would you rather be
the reporter now or in the lean years so you
can actually watch and enjoy the games?
Speaker 5: Right now?
Speaker 6: You know it's so.
Speaker 3: FUNNY because, I mean i stopped being the. SIDELINE reporter
i think it was thirteen, or fourteen so that's. Ten
years that's a, significant difference especially when it comes to. Social,
media sure and so guys players, are different right because
the players weren't weren't so absorbed in and needed to
use for their brand social media like they. Do, Now,
right SO like, i MEAN where i Even Know deane,
DAWKINS today i mean, probably not NOT like i knew
most of the guys that were on the team.
Speaker 6: Back then i'm still, friends, With right and you, know
what not for nothing to. YOUR point i mean those guys,
back then there were so.
Speaker 3: MANY personalities, i mean people forget how many like really.
Speaker 6: Good PLAYERS and i feel bad for, those teams largely
apart because they had no coaches the. Whole time the coaches.
Speaker 3: Sucked ass they were terrible and and and that, BEING
said i mean there were some good players that are on.
Those teams they also didn't. DRAFT well i mean their
quarterbacking was not great in. Those years you got a
really late in, His career drew bledsoell YOU had i
started when When When rob Johnson and kluby were battling
back and forth, at quarterback and Those guys neither of
those guys Were Like pro.
Speaker 6: Bowl COWARD but i mean they, were good but they weren't.
Like great so You get bled so at the end of.
Speaker 3: His career then you go from that into like THE
The jp lossman's Of the worlds And The trent edwards
of the worlds AND.
Speaker 6: The ej manuels of.
Speaker 1: The worlds, the, Answer well i'll.
Speaker 3: Tell, you WHAT and i will say THIS till i
go to. MY Grave ej manual from me kind.
Speaker 6: Of got he kind of got screwed a.
Speaker 3: LITTLE bit, i mean he was a he was a.
High pick obviously shouldn't have been a. High PICK and
i say this all.
Speaker 6: The Time dante witness another one of, those, guys.
Speaker 3: Right he drafted. EIGHTH overall ej was. Sixteenth overall these
guys were drafted way. Too high so the expectations were way.
Too high they could never deliver to where their. Draft
was and it wasn't their fault that they were drafted where, they,
were right if somebody else, did that, not, Them RIGHT
so I think i think if they had been drafted
a little, bit later the expectations would have. Been different,
and secondly if you remember Each sam manuel came into.
Speaker 6: The Year And kevin cobb was going to be. The
Quarterback And kevin cobb got.
Speaker 3: Hurt the training camp swept him on a rubber Matt
At Saint john fisher.
Speaker 1: And he oh got to remember that. That's right where
where did he?
Speaker 5: Come?
Speaker 1: From Chicago.
Speaker 6: IT'S philly I, Think.
Speaker 1: Philly philly, You're right, you're right It. Was philly It
was philly because my my middle son was a fan
Of the eagles and was very excited to meet him
and got and got to. Meet him and that was around.
The time Was Was tyrod taylor on the.
Speaker 5: TEAM too.
Speaker 6: I think tyrod was after that?
Speaker 5: After, that okay, all right.
Speaker 3: But, but anyway so So now EJ's he's being thrown
into the.
Speaker 6: Fire and he's got start as, a rookie, right right,
you know. First OFFENSE like, i, said overdrafted probably so
so much so many expectations of him because he was
a high, first round mid first.
Speaker 3: ROUND pick i just thought if he had had that
one year to sit back and learn. And, WATCH now
I Mean kevin cobbs not, you know He's Not aaron
rodgers WATCHING at, barv right but but still you get
to sit on the bench and watching the sideline and
hear the play calling and watch scheme and watched and
learn the speed of.
Speaker 6: THE game i think he might have been a. Better
player all that, being said, Of course fits is.
Speaker 3: In that, mix Too and fits had, his games, For
sure but You, Know fits it's Interesting about fits. Because,
fits really when you break down, his numbers you could
argue his win.
Speaker 6: Loss record aside he had Almost a Hall of.
Speaker 3: FAME career, i, mean no if you, take us if
you take his, TOUCHDOWN passes i think he's top thirty
all Time if i'm. Not mistaken so it's it's pretty
impressive company that. He's in but his win, loss record,
JUST again i go back to. The coaches you think
of some of the players that molds, Was Great, steve
spikes the running backs that were on, this Team And
twine smith went on to Win The. Super Bowl travis
henry was one of those underrated, backs ever and everything
makes Fun Of travis henry because he had eighteen children.
Speaker 1: And whatever how about the cocaine Incident. In, DENVER yeah,
i mean.
Speaker 6: You know go on, and on and.
Speaker 3: Then we, have McGahee You Had, marshawn lynch you had
all these stun guys that never became what they should
have become because our coaching staff. Was horrific so it
was a, t, O right, i mean it was almost
really long answering. Your question but it was great back then.
Speaker 6: Because there were all of those.
Speaker 3: Talented guys but it was very disappointing back then because
they just couldn't put it together like this team, is.
Speaker 1: Now right so would you rather be able to watch
it On the sunday and enjoy it or actually have to?
Work it you didn't. Answer, that yeah you did what
every sports. Fuck does you gave, a big long answer and, everybody, goes, oh, hey,
hey hey, great answer. Great, answer no you.
Speaker 3: Didn't, Answer, UH honestly I wish i was still, doing
it to be honest, WITH you i mean.
Speaker 1: There is you were excellent. At it And and i'm
not just saying that you were excellent at it because
what NOBODY realizes i think when you're listening to the
game on, the radio and that's a fun way to do,
IT too i have, To, admit uh when, You're listening
i'm not sure that you're always you got to always
be on call because you don't know when they're going
to come.
Speaker 5: To you if there's a delay.
Speaker 1: Of game these guys in the BOOTH are, i mean
and they're not great at, improv sorry so they're going
to be looking to throw. To anybody, AND you i
thought you. WERE great i really. DID well i.
Speaker 3: Appreciate that and the interesting thing that most people. DON'T
know i shouldn't, say most but some people don't know
IS that i wasn't like a sports radio GUY like
i was a rock Job Right, Bosting MORNING like i
didn't do sports every day like does Now and salad
does a terrific job with your and with, that crew
but he does bills like every single day of, the
week seven days, a.
Speaker 6: WEEK and i didn't. Do.
Speaker 5: That no so so.
Speaker 6: For me that, THE prop i had a prop a
lot more probably than he probably does because he's a
rather all. The time but that actually made it really fun.
Speaker 3: For me that like researching and finding those little tigbits
were a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: For me, SO yeah, i, MEAN boy i forgot when
you listed all the players that were on those teams
and you sort, of go what a waste? Of talent
and we come down, to okay then is? It coaching
the one THING that i think It, was, Nick Right
nick wright FROM f, S ONE and i really Do.
LIKE nick i like The way. NICK thinks i may
not Agree with nick all, the TIME but i like
there's Something. About Nick and nick said if they don't
make it to The super bowl, this year because, he
goes really there's no other team ever that has won
this many playoffs and not gone, playoff games, excuse me
and not gone to A, super, bowl right not even?
Speaker 5: Got there and he.
Speaker 1: Goes, with buffalo he feels like it's it can't even
be like the sting of the loss of A.
Speaker 5: Super bowl boy does?
Speaker 1: That sting but you can at the, you know given
a couple of months and, You, go god that was
a damn.
Speaker 5: Good season what.
Speaker 1: A ride and, HE goes i just don't think that
it's Enough for buffalo that if they.
Speaker 5: Don't, make it is.
Speaker 1: It time to look at a change of the head
coaching position in your opinion that? He said, he said
he said. It is, Excuse me i'm sorry, to interrupt
but he said. It IS and i just curious what
your thoughts are.
Speaker 3: ON that, i mean you could make, all that you
can make all kinds, of arguments but, you're right like.
Speaker 6: Getting to The, super, Bowl.
Speaker 3: Right yeah so there's been coaches that Have been mike
McDermott that had gotten.
Speaker 6: To The super bowl. And lost but AT least i, got,
There right they won. Their conference. That's important we don't
have a.
Speaker 3: Conference championship pennant hanging At High mark stadium that's that
is Crucial to, sean McDermott and pretty much in any
other city in, this league they might.
Speaker 6: Run him But because seawan is such a good guy
and he's, you know.
Speaker 3: He's so down to earth and this You Mentioned, hard
knocks it kind of goes back to the first couple
of Episodes Of, hard knocks which, for, ME honestly i
think you guys even.
Speaker 6: Talked about it were kind of boring and, they're like
it was just kind, of, LIKE well i.
Speaker 1: DID it i worried that it was. Gonna BE but
i gotta, tell, You like i've enjoyed the last. Two,
EPISODES yeah i really had.
Speaker 6: Like the oliver on the horse and, all that and that.
Speaker 1: Was Cool but I'VE got I Thought ty johnson was
gonna be thrown off and break a hip OR whatever i.
Did do And then I'm watching white talk up to uh.
The quarterback white Talk To josh allen AND say i
never Played In. POP warner, i go And as i'm,
watching this he's already, been RELEASED and, i, go oh
you're not playing IN the, Nfl, either so but which was, just,
terrible RIGHT because i always think how good you have
to be to suck AT. THE nfl, i mean, how fast,
how good, how athletic how much work you.
Speaker 5: Put in.
Speaker 1: It's unbelievable but UH yeah. I did i did wonder
about about the coaching side. Of that and when you
see McDermott in the hard, knock stuff he gets you,
fired up but in a low. Key way IF that's
i don't know how you feel.
Speaker 5: ABOUT that I think i think.
Speaker 3: THAT'S true i also think behind closed doors he is
probably more fire than. People, think yeah, you know your
only subject is. So much So like i'm assuming that
you know he's different behind closed doors than he is. On,
camera EVER so i feel like again going back, To
you i'm running around your, questions again.
Speaker 6: Almost like this is a scripted press conference. Or something
thank you for setting me up.
Speaker 3: In ADVANCE like, i mean like look with it's your
terrible cliche about window opening and closing and YadA YadA
YadA with, JOSH right, i mean.
Speaker 6: At some point you get to a point where you
gotta think about making a.
Speaker 3: Change if they Don't make and don't get, ME wrong
i think as much as people, are saying and people
have to understand when.
Speaker 6: They say the bills have uh, you know their favor
to win every.
Speaker 3: Single, game yes you know why that, is right because
they're playing the best teams, at home and every one
of those games is a. Pick them but because it's
a home game always gets. That right it's it's the
only reason why they're favored in all of. Those Games but.
Speaker 6: I'm going to TELL you i Think the bills have
a broadally.
Speaker 3: Difficult schedule for everybody that says, THEY don't. I, disagree.
Speaker 1: Yeah talk to me too about the you know some
of the some of the rule changes, this year and one,
of them are?
Speaker 5: You?
Speaker 1: Right, yeah god the hell's going on?
Speaker 5: Over there you like? You're dying You can i'm?
Speaker 1: Doing okay the, goal right the rule changes And the thursday,
night Game and i'm not sure. So sure i'm starting
to wonder If The thursday night game is JUST the
nfl getting too fucking greedy because you own so many
nights and now you've got the flex rule to Make
the thursday night game. More attractive they've been abysmal the
past couple. Of years what Do we there was ONE
we i thought was gonna be Great Because russell wilson
Went to denver and what's, His Name matt ryan went
To the cults and, THAT game i think it was
twelve to nine and it was all. Field goals, you
know they're, shitty GAMES and i think a lot of
times they're shitty GAMES because i gotta think the players are.
Fucking exhausted but normally when they, flex games it's a four,
week window so the team has some time. To plan
you got to, do travel this sort, of thing. Hotel
whatever now it's a three week thing WITH, THE nfl i,
excuse Me with, thursday NIGHT and i do wonder if
a team Like the bills could end up being flexed
To a THURSDAY night.
Speaker 5: I mean why?
Speaker 1: Wouldn't, they, yeah, right right but why why?
Speaker 5: Wouldn't they but, to me that could.
Speaker 1: Really suck and, and again unless it's going to Be
a thursday night, Home game i'm not so sure that they.
Speaker 5: Would win.
Speaker 6: So Here's what i'll say to all.
Speaker 3: Of that the fact that these guys, IN practice i
mean it's practices during the week are almost almost entirely, non,
contact okay and, they're like there's not a lot, of
tackling if, any right there's there's some live, line play
but IT'S never i don't think it's ever a game
speed as much as they want to say, IT is
i think they they want their guys come game day
as fresh as they. Possibly can and if you'd ever
talk TO an, nfl player they will tell you that
they never, get healthy like the. Whole year they are never.
So it they'll come Off with sunday and, they, say
well you know YOU'RE you're.
Speaker 6: Takee Day on monday.
Speaker 3: And whatever, you know they call. It treatment you get On, a,
monday right and then tuesdays your day.
Speaker 6: Off WHATEVER but, i mean those guys are they're sore
every like every day. They're sore they're, never, Perfect right
so like you know when, people say oh they're tired,
of bell they're always tired and.
Speaker 3: Beat up so it's more for me about the game
plan part of it than it is about the actual
physical part of it that, you know if you're not.
Speaker 6: If you're not ahead.
Speaker 3: Of it and this is for the guys in the
background that nobody, knows about as preparing the film and
preparing the tape and doing all the things for the
coaches so that they can prepare. The, players right those
guys are working like sixteen hour days just so on
a short week they can have the team ready to
look at tape of the other team to build up
stuff for the scout team to run against, the, STARTERS
right i mean those guys are. The guys those guys
are the guys that are sleepless and beat up and.
Worn down those are. The guys feel sorry.
Speaker 6: For it but.
Speaker 5: That that makes that.
Speaker 1: MAKES sense i like hearing that from somebody who's been around,
the TEAM BECAUSE i i never really thought of it.
THAT way i thought you need more. Days rest but
if they're. They're not it's just getting up, to PLAY
and i mean Traveling Things west. Coast games they can
all play into it a, little bit but they'll play
into it On a sunday or Or a saturday if it's.
The playoffs let me ask you one one. Other, question
technically you have a, board, there right? A?
Speaker 5: Board yeah what do?
Speaker 1: You mean is your microphone plugged into. A? Board yeah
it is the board plugged into? Your computer?
Speaker 5: It is?
Speaker 1: It, is yeah, all right just checking it sounds like
it's coming through your mic mic on.
Speaker 5: Your computer, oh, guys yeah but.
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THAT'S fine i just was JUST just i was. Just
checking let me ask you something about, the BEARD because
i just started growing Mine and i've oh, my god
what did?
Speaker 5: YOU do i went to a. Different setting oh, my god.
Speaker 1: That's, amazing, yeah, yeah, Okay.
Speaker 3: Good so that the last twenty seven minutes of. Sucked,
ass no they haven't.
Speaker 1: Sucked ass because your information is. So good it just.
SOUNDED TINNY i, I think i honest to, god man
when it comes to. The bills having been, AROUND it
i thought Even your thursday night, Game announced i've never
heard anybody. SAY that, I.
Speaker 5: Mean i'm just throwing things. Out there i'm, just. Spitballing,
man yeah but.
Speaker 1: That's good uh, the beard?
Speaker 5: What what? What set?
Speaker 1: What setting do you put it on when you're like?
Trimming up that's a great question Because because, i've TRIED and,
I went i practically shaved it. ALL off, i, GO
well i didn't want to, Do that so.
Speaker 3: So mine's actually kind of you can't. Really tell mine's
actually a little bit LONGER than i like it to be.
RIGHT now i usually like to trim it down a,
Little BIT so I don't i don't. EVEN know i
don't know what the. Number, IS two i. Don't, know okay,
but YEAH no. I have i have absolutely done exactly
what you did to the POINT where i have had
to shave my. ENTIRE either i leave, a mustache which
is a horrific thing to.
Speaker 5: Look at no one needs to.
Speaker 3: See that it Was because i'm trying to you, know,
me dude like anybody that's our, Ages like, I'm like
i'm gonna grow a mustache because, you know all the
the cool like thirty year olds and twenty five.
Speaker 1: Year, olds yeah my twenty three year old son, a mustache.
Speaker 3: You KNOW like I want i want to look like
you know that nineteen twenty, five firefighter, you KNOW like
i want to have, that mustache or you know the
guy twiddling his.
Speaker 1: Like twenty, five firefighter.
Speaker 3: Like like the, bohemian guy the beer of the natty, bow, Guy,
RIGHT like i want to be. That GUY but i
could never pull that, off ever EVEN though I think
i do in my.
Speaker 5: Stupid Head what so.
Speaker 1: The beard was a request from a, lady FRIEND but
i HAVEN'T so I thought i, would try, AND uh
i don't, hate, It, Dude, no no it. LOOKS fine
a lot. Of, gray now ye? What's that what about just?
THE stash i don't you. KNOW what i did this
once before AND then i shaved IT and i took
pictures to myself with just a stash.
Speaker 5: And it looks. So bad, oh god it looks.
Speaker 3: SO bad, I dude i like the stash with your
little uh this thing, Right, here yeah stash with that
would look kind. Of badass And that's i'm, A dude
So don't this IS what i have.
Speaker 1: To, Say yeah i'm. So bolded how many years, in radio, were, You, oh.
Speaker 3: God started in basically eighty nine through, twenty one so thirty,
two years thirty.
Speaker 1: Two, YEARS yeah i did about a similar a similar.
TOUR duty i guess you could call it in the
way and radio always had the reputation of being run
by sea. Students accurate, uh, HUH right, I mean i'm
not saying like the people that that that, worked IT
and i even think now like it got so corporate
and that that's what's. Killed radio in, my opinion it's gotten.
To CORPORATE and i think that spoken, word radio if
it served the local communities that, they're in would survive
and do well. INDEPENDENTLY owned i became well Like AND
i'm i don't know if you were this for the
company you, work FOR but i went up in like.
Speaker 5: Eighty. Stations right so you're.
Speaker 1: Talking about towns you've never stepped a fucking, foot in
and you're trying to sell the county fair or the
whatever fair that's, going on and they send you, the
liners but, you go it's just there's an. Element missing
there's an.
Speaker 9: Element missing, even worse you had to like put on, a,
twang yeah like You know california or A new england
accent where in all those.
Speaker 5: Eighty markets so think about how hard that was to
take all those shows.
Speaker 3: When you had to like think about being in, you, Know,
uh tuscaloosa or Being, in amarillo or, you know Being
in Fargo or boise Or.
Speaker 1: Car it was one it was, one thing and then
they sent out the separate liners to. The station so
it was so homogenized that that that's part of. The
Problem but i'm going.
Speaker 5: Back to the c.
Speaker 1: STUDENT thing i always thought the looseness and scrappiness actually
made radio the INDUSTRY that i think YOU and i
both loved. More, creative uh but was it more chaotic
behind the scenes at times? With management, for you.
Speaker 3: Usually THE management i, WORKED for, i mean most of
THE management i worked for, were fantastic like. Very SUPPORTIVE
but i also didn't DO like i was solo most of, the,
TIME right i was on like. A team, you know
there were there were the LAST show i was with
with with. THE team i was with a girl for
a couple of years On the Edge. In buffalo other, than,
THAT like i was solo for most of. THE time,
I mean i did sports radio show for a bunch
of years on a really low power AM and i
had a very very small team of like me and
a couple.
Speaker 5: Of producers, BUT like i never really.
Speaker 3: HAD any i was never so like controversial or ANYTHING
that i really needed somebody to pull me aside and be,
like dude like what are you doing or you can't
be doing this.
Speaker 5: OR whatever i never really got to that level.
Speaker 3: Or point there were don't get, me wrong there were
TIMES when i, thought about, you know doing THINGS that
i thought would be GREAT or i wanted, to do
and it was kibosh because it got to the point
where as, you KNOW and i think this is true
for pretty much. Any industry, you know there's certain managers
that are in place for a lot of, different reasons
BUT primarily a because, they're, cheap right they're not costing for.
The COMPANY and b they'll do whatever the company asked them, to,
do right which is.
Speaker 5: Meet meet meet, meet meet, have meetings, have meetings.
Speaker 3: Have meetings book, it's, Important right and so those meetings
would end up it got to the point where they
were so annoying and so ridiculous and so like almost
detrimentally like just not useful at all because the conversations
were never productive and, you're like what are? We, doing
like what are?
Speaker 1: We?
Speaker 3: Doing yeah and so, you know most of, THE time
i think it was probably true. FOR you i just want,
A gut i just want. AN instinct i just kind
of DID what i thought was gonna work and y
and some of it. Didn't work so it is what.
It is but that's that's that's life.
Speaker 5: And. Radio man it's very very rare.
Speaker 3: That every time you ever open, the mic you're gonna,
you know hit a. Home run it's it's very rare that.
That happens most people don't, do that even, the. Best
right so, BUT yeah i, mean, MANAGEMENT yeah i mean
there were TIMES when i disagree with THEM and, i
said that's go in, this direction let's, do that just.
Speaker 5: Do that and there's always.
Speaker 3: Money involved and a lot of times you want to
do like a cool event or a promotion or something like,
oh no.
Speaker 5: We can't it's not. A thing, yeah nahing there's, not
enough there's not.
Speaker 3: Enough people, it's, like well freaking make, it happen like
this is what makes us different to, Your point like
that's when radio was great and, people said, Screw it
we'll put.
Speaker 5: As many people as we can. In there we'll throw
money at it will make. It work and then it
did and you got a.
Speaker 3: Huge return but it got to, the point, you know
within THE last i don't, even know fifteen, twenty years
maybe longer, than that at this point where it just
became so corporate and so reserved and so bottom line
and so, you know, stock market.
Speaker 1: And well that's exactly what, it. Is right shareholders were the,
big THING because i was, just, thinking like you get
some people who are more by, the BOOK and i
didn't know if, you ever but but aheads OF them.
I did this guy has. Passed ON but i remember
coming back TO see mf and doing AFTERNOONS And jfk.
Junior died it was the day the plane, went down
and it might have been like a couple of, days
LATER and, i, said wow this is the first time
in aviation history that the luggage just showed up because
it washed up on the shore before. The passengers and
some lady like the phones, went crazy right, of Course
and i'm, doing Music but i'm saying shit in between,
the records and now the phones. Are going so some
lady calls up and she's, yelling ME so i start
yelling back at her and she's yelling at Me and
i'm yelling, at HER and, i, go, you lady you're.
THE problem, i, go like one joke is, Not disrespectful
but you know what's gonna. Be disrespectful every everybody's gonna profit.
Off this they're gonna sell, commemorative plates they're gonna sell,
magazine covers they're GONNA sell t shirts, and you, you
sucker you're gonna buy every one. Of them and you're the,
problem lady, not, me right and back into. A, song
well now the phones are going, fucking crazy and Our
friend regrette IS the gm at. The, Time right i'm
getting hotline from the program director and the hotline is where,
it blinks and you know you're in trouble if you.
Get hotline so the program, Director goes i'm on my
Off and, i'm here and what are you doing?
Speaker 5: In there what are? You doing, you go you're yelling,
At people you're yelling.
Speaker 1: At, the listeners and then the internal phones ring And.
It's legrete, logrett goes keep, it, up baby just don't burn.
Speaker 5: It down.
Speaker 1: So that was like, my THING and i always knew
who the weak management was and when, Fuck you i'm
gonna Do what i'm gonna do and you'll yell at.
ME later, i mean, you know and THEN sometimes i over,
THE years, i, always uh. You knew you Worked With
dave kine for a number. Of years there was a
Time When buffalo bill's training camp was going on that
they came.
Speaker 5: Out and you still.
Speaker 1: SEE it i think you saw it In An Old
hard knocks the wheeze, shirt underneath Not An Old hard
knocks in one Of The New hard, knocks episodes in
old footage of the team Back At Saint, john fisher
and It was ligrett who had. Made, Those well cano
gets all pissed off because he had been ASKING for.
T SHIRTS so i did this whole THING where i
pretended to break into the promotions office and, THEN oh
i know what.
Speaker 5: It was dave wrote.
Speaker 1: A letter he wrote a memo to the program director And,
to kevin WHO'S.
Speaker 5: A gm why is he?
Speaker 1: Get SCREWED so i he calls me, and, GOES hey
i thought better. Of this can you go get? The
MEMO so i GO and i get. The, memo well
the program director didn't, get It but, kevin had AND so, i,
figured well let me see what, this said AND so
i read it on, the air AND then i broke
INTO the i broke IN and i stole one of
those wee SHIRTS and i got a spray cannon on.
THE air i put it next to it, and Wrote
cano oh.
Speaker 5: That's awesome that.
Speaker 1: Is awesome and they were so fucking mad. At me
everybody Was, except kevin and that was the only THING
that i had going. For me, HE'S like i knew
there was someone in the corner office who kind of,
Had you but other, THAN that, i mean that's it
because sometimes like.
Speaker 5: A moment on.
Speaker 1: The air that maybe for yous IN the i felt
like a total disaster of, the time but when you
look back, on it you realize it was kind of classic.
RADIO magic i would assume you've had a couple, of
those Either, In rochester Buffalo.
Speaker 5: OR yeah, i mean, quite frankly there's too many to.
Speaker 10: Remember, back, yeah, YEAH no, i mean, you know the
probably most famous one WAS when i Was with wee's
and that's that's a one of the MOST famous cmf stories,
maybe ever when they had the sex.
Speaker 5: Therapists MAN and i forgot YESS.
Speaker 3: And i, you know got with the sex therapist and,
you know felt bad, about it and oh but, you know,
you know my parents, were listening so it's JUST like i,
was like oh, my god, and, like YEAH so i
was a little freaked out by the. Whole THING and
I actually i went to Dinner with mulet that same
NIGHT and i told HIM how, i felt and, he, Goes,
oh tod you gotta put this on the. HERE tomorrow,
i mean this, is great this. Is awesome this, is like,
you know this is, being you and you know that's
what they always, tell you, you know like be yourself.
When right, so yeah That was without getting into too,
MUCH detail i was that was probably The signature rochester,
radio moment well except for the one time and this is,
really terrible and ONLY because i was distracted and not.
Paying attention but there WAS and i don't even want
to even bring, this up but there was a you
Know what i'm, GONNA say I think.
Speaker 5: I do I think. I might i was there.
Speaker 1: For that so THERE was.
Speaker 5: I hate i'm so embarrassed.
Speaker 1: By this why why it was so funny and so,
Innocently DONE like i knew exactly what.
Speaker 5: Had, happened, so uh there.
Speaker 3: Was a Fire In canada igua and a bunch of
people died and that's that day on, MY shift, i
mean the whole radio station the whole day was talking
about it and it was a, big deal, super sad
and of course on the playlist was talking heads burning
down the house and without even thinking, about it because that,
you know when you're doing programmed radio, with music it's
just you just kind of plug things in, in it
but you don't have.
Speaker 1: To get, hang on hang on, one SECOND because i
think there's an even better reason. For this it was
it was before the day where the everything was in,
the computer so it. Was CDs you had to pull
them to make sure you, had everything so there was no.
Dead air you couldn't. Have Something and i'm pretty sure
we Were still we had broadcast that morning that we
show wanted an impromptu THING and i was the, promotion
director and we did It from hooters and the family
came down and they still had like the smoke. Going
up it, turns out by, the way, the father the.
Father killed the father set. The fire, Yeah YEAH now
i don't think the intention was, to kill, but whatever
he set the fire and some of the children did
die and they were. Down there so they raised all
this MONEY and i think other radio stations came, and
DONATED but i think they went right through to, your
shift and so you don't know when they're. Gonna end
you've got to have the song ready. To go and
then this it was burned down. The, house yeah but Honest,
To god i'm, just, saying like think of all the
things that, are happening and that's the stuff behind the
scenes that people.
Speaker 5: Don't appreciate, but god that was.
Speaker 1: One of the funniest ee just and, you know as it,
turned out it was you look back at.
Speaker 5: It now and you, can. Laugh.
Speaker 3: Right yeah and you know what one other funny thing You,
Mentioned Stanley so i'll never.
Speaker 5: Forget this he was Back To winton road in the.
Speaker 3: Studios there he was sitting in the couch and we
WERE just i was doing my shift whatever it was.
BACK then i don't even know what time of day
it was thin it was, afternoons WHATEVER and i was.
Playing vinyl, Oh YEAH and i was always like really
tense about the board and what was on the air
and not what was potted up and. Down whatever and
and in the middle of WHATEVER song i was, PLAYING vinyl.
Speaker 5: I stopped it right in the. MIDDLE song i just
hit stop on the turntable and it went.
Speaker 3: Our boss standing sitting there, as, like dude you you
know what you just, OH.
Speaker 5: Yeah i mean the stories go on.
Speaker 3: And. ON man i remember the Night before Fourth, of july,
you KNOW when i, was first one of the FIRST
years i.
Speaker 5: Was, There obviously.
Speaker 3: Fourth of july is, a holiday so all the all
the the regulars. Were Off So i'm i'm a, swing
guy part, time, guy WHATEVER and i party my.
Speaker 5: Ass off on the Third.
Speaker 3: Of JULY so, i said you, KNOW what i better
just go to the station and, You know i'll just.
SLEEP there i was on the supposed to be on
there at Six And kevin gillen shook me at.
Speaker 5: Eight am there was dead air for. Two hours.
Speaker 3: OH iget i was on that couch in the STUDIO
and I feel, she's, like, hey, hey, Hey, buddy hey
are you supposed to be on.
Speaker 5: The AIR and i, was like, YOU know i am on. The,
air yeah we're playing a. Sommer, right, no, no no,
you're no.
Speaker 4: You're.
Speaker 1: Not yeah that is that is. Great stuff when you think,
about it.
Speaker 6: What?
Speaker 1: Is it what was there or is there a part
of that job that? You thought they didn't? Tell me
this was part.
Speaker 5: OF radio.
Speaker 3: I mean aside from a sex therapist and, we no not,
not me that that that.
Speaker 1: For, Me, NO no i don't think anybody. Saw THAT
but i, would, say like because you've done morning radio,
and stuff it's it's. It's demanding you've got to be.
Really prepared AND because i remember when we split and
we's went one direction and the rest of the show.
ONE another I would i would be up sometimes at
two thirty in the morning and then in the library
after the show just to WRITE because i didn't want
to go HOME because i had, little KIDS and i
mean in my Office and i'd be working my ass
OFF and i don't know if it was worth it.
Or NOT sometimes i look back NOW and, i go,
you know there were probably other REASONS why i was
doing it.
Speaker 5: That much but.
Speaker 1: It's a lot like the research end, of it the
writing end. OF it, i mean if you're gonna do,
it well writing is a big piece because You gotta
nobody can be that FUNNY like I Watch i Love
and i'll see it More on TikTok, than ANYTHING but
i always love whose line is it?
Speaker 5: Any WAY and, i.
Speaker 1: Go these motherfuckers have got to get a little bit of.
A hint they got, to like they can't, come out.
YOU know, i mean, they're good and there are guys
who are really, really good but nobody's that good.
Speaker 11: Every, TIME yeah, I mean i suspect in that realm
there was probably some setup that they never alluded to
that no one ever really thought to.
Speaker 3: Think about but people like us that have been in that, situation, think, yeah, YEAH.
Speaker 5: Really, i mean they're that quick good.
Speaker 1: That, fast no it doesn't take, You NO and i
certainly don't want to take away from the great talent or.
The entertainment it's still. VERY funny, I can't i can't you,
say that but there's no way that they're coming out
with that.
Speaker 3: That quick but, you're, right man in terms of being
like in terms of the work that went, INTO it,
I mean i think YOU and I are i'm not
gonna speak, for YOU but i think we're very similar
in that we absolutely loved what. We, did yes sort
of still, Do, Right, LIKE yeah i mean loved it
to the point where like we were living our job
almost twenty four. To seven like even when we were
like we fill in the place we be at outside,
of work we'd still be like on our phone or
something would come into our head like oh, MY gosh
i have to talk about this on. The store like
we were always, like absorbed like the show was always
part of your life one way or. The other, SO
yeah i mean there was always, you know you're, a
meeting you're trying, to perfect you're trying to. Be different
and we were always coached by, certain people like they
would have consultants come in and, say well you SHOULD,
DO x Y, and z and like one of the things.
Speaker 5: Was HAVING and i never.
Speaker 3: DID this i was terrible at having benchmark bits. Like there, everyone's,
like oh you have to have benchmark bits like things
that you do Every, single tuesday Every single WEDNESDAY at.
Ax TIME and i was completely. Opposite that, I'M like
i want to do, something different unexpected every. Single day
that was my way of looking at IT because i
just wanted people to be surprised every. Single WEEK and
i made sure that it was presented in a way
that would be entertaining one way or. The OTHER so
i was very very proud. Of that, BUT yeah, i,
mean yeah there was a tone, of, work man and
put a ton of hours into that.
Speaker 5: Job MAN and i know, people, think well, oh man
it must have been so easy. And, someone yeah it.
Speaker 3: Was great it. Was fun we just happen to be
really good. At it but it wasn't Because we it
just came natural. To us we worked our asses off
there becoming really good. At it, You listen i'm sure
you listened back to some of your tapes when you.
FIRST started i. LISTENED behind i still have some. Of them,
i'm like how did anyone ever? PROMOTE me i was, Brutally,
bad yeah.
Speaker 1: Brutally bad there, Is, somehow yeah you.
Speaker 5: Figure, It OUT like i.
Speaker 1: Still think one of the greatest training grounds for me
Was doing midnight to Six and POUGHKEEPSIE because i DID whatever.
I want i got so fucking board playing music BALL
that i just opened THE phones i TURNED into I
had who's up and why at three o'clock and there
was a guy who call up every night crying because
his girlfriend had broken up. With him and then ONE
night i really pissed people OFF because i played a
gunshot into everybody. HURTS im i thought that Was like
hi entertainment at nineteen, years old of going this is
fucking killer and, You know but but it was those
sorts of things that you got to do, in RADIO
and i don't think, you CAN and i don't think podcasts.
HAVE that i, would, THINK like i love doing the
podcast certainly fits my life, better now and, you know
you can talk about a wide range. Of THINGS and
i have other PODCASTS that i do and SOME that,
i PRODUCE and i enjoy all. Of that but the
ONE thing i, WILL miss i, do miss is the
energy of live radio and. THE callers i love. The
callers callers COULD absolutely i fed off the energy, of
people and that's me at parties and, SHIT like i
love feeding off the the energy. Of people AND if
i see somebody who's, you, know DOWN can i help bring?
Speaker 5: Them UP can i?
Speaker 1: Do this but arguing with them and playing with them
and hearing their funny line here. OR there i mean
that THAT'S what i, do MISS and i think that
pod cast don't necessarily. Capture that, you can but it's
it's not.
Speaker 5: AS easy i would.
Speaker 3: Agree completely, you know podcasts have just personalities on camera
right or, you know over.
Speaker 5: A stream and, that's fine, it's good, it's entertaining, but yeah.
It is it is the one piece of our air.
Speaker 3: Quotes ARTWORK and i will never claim to be, an
artist but if you want to call it being a
radio jocker personality.
Speaker 5: An artist, i'm fine.
Speaker 6: Throw me into.
Speaker 3: That mix, BUT yeah i mean that is probably the
one thing that you miss. Most OF and i think for,
your situation you got a really good because you've got
all of your i'll call, them, characters cronies your your
guys to sit in and girls to sit in.
Speaker 5: WITH you i mean they're sort of.
Speaker 3: Your CALLERS like i feel like you do it well with,
your crew and you kind of allow them to be
sort of the voices of.
Speaker 5: Those PEOPLE so i think you do that that really.
Speaker 1: REALLY well I just i enjoy that sort, of THING
and i know that it's interesting to hear who thinks what?
Is what like my mother would prefer a one on
One With stan maine instead Of hearing laura talk about
how badly she wants to watch people have sex at a.
Sex club like, SHE'S like i don't. GET that, i,
go well that's, all right, all right let me do
a little. Radio, hypothetical okay, all right would You rather
rich The bull genzler have the? Hotline? Ring now the
hot line usually was a. Separate number it would light
up and sometimes there was a strobe light that would
flash depending on, the studio because none of the phones
really rang other than the, internal phones because you just
could you know you were taping and.
Speaker 5: Calling things so would.
Speaker 1: You rather or have the hotline ring in the middle
of your best break every? Single day or have your
program director sit in the studio silently watching you for
your entire shift and occasionally eating very loudly from across.
The room i'm.
Speaker 5: Gonna Go, BE yeah I think i, Would TOO like,
I think i Think b it would provide me with
material like.
Speaker 3: AUTOMATIC material i would just bust on my program director the.
Speaker 1: Whole, Time yeah i'm, With, you okay, all right here.
Speaker 5: We go here's. Another.
Speaker 1: One yes would you rather have your worst drunk voicemail
from an ex accidentally loaded into the next? Stop set
or be forced to co host a morning show with
the sales guy who thinks?
Speaker 5: HE'S hilarious i would go.
Speaker 1: Be again you would you would rather be with the
sales guy who thinks he's? A?
Speaker 5: Celet yes because he will end up.
Speaker 3: Being CRUSHED and i, think again that's material that's just
being written all by itself because the.
Speaker 5: Guy is, so bad he's so unfunny that. It's funny, RIGHT.
Speaker 1: Now i take a on, that ONE because i would
want everyone. To know, YOU know i have a charmed
life sitting behind, a microphone but it isn't not CHARMED
when i, Leave here do you hear THE shit i
had to? Deal, With now i'd probably. Get sued maybe
i'd get a cease.
Speaker 5: AND desist i have.
Speaker 1: No idea i'll. Never forget my grandmother once calls me
on my BIRTHDAY and i was mowing, the lawn AND
so i had, missed IT and i think i'd stopped
to put gas them or she calls again and, she said.
Happy birthday did you get? Our VOICEMAIL and i, said
no and, she said don't listen, To it AND then
i played it on the radio.
Speaker 5: After that because it was just.
Speaker 1: Too good it was my grandmother and my, aunt fighting
fighting because my grandmother's talking to the voicemail like she,
got me and my aunt's in, the background who's only
eight years older, than, Me, going ma it's, his voicemail leave.
Me alone all you do is yell. At me and
they're back and forth until the end where my, grandmother,
goes oh just leave me alone and let, me die
and my, aunt goes they go ahead and die and
it's all. ON tape i played that over and fucking,
over BOWL so i would have DONE.
Speaker 5: THE x i would have DONE.
Speaker 3: The x you chop that up and just bade it
into little drops that you've.
Speaker 5: Dropped it it's just.
Speaker 1: Would you rather be locked in a remote broadcast van
for twelve hours with the station intern tripping on shrooms
or do a live thirty minute interview with a band
whose lead singer keeps hitting on you.
Speaker 5: MID segment i guess it would depend on who that lead.
Speaker 3: Singer was that's, true, TOO right i, mean NOW if,
I mean i'm not A Huge taylor, swift fan NOR
do i think she's particularly. That ATTRACTIVE but i mean
if it was her versus, you Know Like chris Robinson
From The, BLACK rose i, would say you, know, Whatever,
BOY wow i mean uncomfortability all over, the, Place, right.
Speaker 5: Yeah But again i'm gonna. Go, BACK look i.
Speaker 3: Am not, that creative NOR am i. That funny SO
anyway i can find any kind. Of material the kid
on shrooms. Is awesome could give you, Great, stuff yes
give you. Great stuff.
Speaker 1: Would you rather take the dump button away during your
wildest late night show or have your mom call in
and win the dirtiest caller contest.
Speaker 5: On air.
Speaker 1: Oh be you would want your mom to win even if.
Speaker 5: She, CAN'T wait i think that would be an.
Speaker 1: Awesome too if my mother with a. Filthy story my
mother's talked about streaking years ago.
Speaker 5: On here.
Speaker 3: She's, everything yeah and my mom is like really religious
and pretty yeah non, you know pretty straight and like not,
like whoa don't? You know so for her to come
out and like, you know talk about bondage or something and,
be like oh, my god.
Speaker 5: This is, but mom you were to swing what like
you gotta be?
Speaker 1: Kidding it what was the what was the reaction at
home then to the?
Speaker 5: Surrogate stuff that'd? Be, awful no it wasn't. TOO bad i.
WAS young I think i still lived.
Speaker 6: AT home.
Speaker 5: I think i still lived, at.
Speaker 3: HOME but i never really and there weren't any any
really true REPERCUSSIONS that i can be.
Speaker 5: Aware.
Speaker 3: OF uh i have to think my mom and it
was just my mom in the, four boys SO like, i,
UH yeah i. DON'T know i think my other three
brothers were away, at COLLEGE but i was. Still home,
SO YEAH i i there was never anything that came,
about it, thank god because if there, had been it
would have been nightmarish.
Speaker 1: For ME now i, do REMEMBER because i was around when.
THIS happened i do remember being very annoyed at one salesperson.
In particular i'm not going to say, anybody's name but
this person came up to you and told you how
disappointed they weren't. In YOU and i think they Were a.
Mercy grad it was, A woman and you're a, McQuay
guy and my son was a, McQuay Guy so i'm
familiar with. This STUFF but i thought that was. So
SHITTY why i need to? Know that, you know you
have to tell me your personal deep feelings about keep it.
To yourself i'm already upset, about IT, and i, oh
god that just.
Speaker 5: Bugged me thank you for you.
Speaker 3: It. Did IT but i was in some sort of
a haze at that POINT because i don't know what
actually really.
Speaker 5: HIT me i will say that it was a kind
of an. Awesome experience, good good? All right?
Speaker 1: One more would? You rather would you rather hook Up
with caller nine in the, station van unseen, and unvetted
or be forced to do a week of live remotes
at a sketchy adult bookstore Off the highway while your
ex keeps showing up to. Get prizes, oh man that is.
Speaker 5: Also great yeah, Done RIGHT yeah.
Speaker 1: I did i was trying. TO think i thought of
all the things that happened to me. In RADIO did
i never hooked up. WITH caller i never hooked up
with caller nine were? You around there was a. PROGRAM
director i think you had already had uh Were, In
buffalo but there was a. Program director and he inserted himself.
Into Afternoons so kana went, to four and then he
was on from four, to six AND then i did
six to nine or six, TO ten i. Don't remember
and he used to have women call and talk, to
them and then they he would ask them out over
the phone or invite, them up and they'd have him
in the lobby and then he would have us go
out and check where they hot, or not and then,
What yeah i'm, NOT kidding i am not making. This
up and then he would. Call BACK so i remember
there was one smoking CHICK and, i go, oh god
and he's, Like really, he GOES so i TELL her
i got, a meeting and somebody else so about their
asshole walks in, and goes, holy god, damn it this
one hot and he looks, at ME and, I, go nah.
Speaker 5: You ended up taking?
Speaker 1: Her, Out, NO no i. Did not he was. Uh
yeah but then he would call up, AND say i
have meetings. OR something, i can't, you know TELL her
i got a meeting right, after THIS and. I can't
i'm not gonna be able to even get. UP there i,
was like what a piece of dirt this?
Speaker 5: Guy was remember how?
Speaker 1: Or?
Speaker 5: Not, yes YES yes. I do this was?
Speaker 1: His thing so which one are you? GOING with i,
would say call her, nine, myself, Unseen unvetted i'd go, on.
SCENE unvetted. I would, you know sometimes you get better
than hanging out at their dirty. Fucking bookstore i'm not
doing that all.
Speaker 5: Every, week yeah that. Is gross i'll. Go up i'll
Go with colin nine, as well.
Speaker 1: Because you just you, never know you, never know you.
Never look it's it's.
Speaker 3: It is is, definition, Lottery, right hey you, never know.
Speaker 1: No lottery did you ever date somebody who had met
you through, the radio like or you're not a caller,
or something and then they met?
Speaker 5: You?
Speaker 1: Out?
Speaker 5: Maybe, NO um i don't. THINK so i.
Speaker 3: Think anyone EVER dated i MET like i mean to
have met at. A, GIG yeah i DON'T think i
ever went out with anybody that.
Speaker 5: Called in.
Speaker 1: THAT happened, I remember i remember some girls, calling in
UH because i Would do Saturday into, sunday morning and
They were maris, college GIRLS and i told THEM that
i also worked at, a deli and so they came
into the deli to check, me OUT and i had
been on the RADIO and i ended up dating one
of them for like three years or something. Like that, hey,
now yeah, OH yeah.
Speaker 3: I don't KNOW if i would have, told them, you know,
uh Yeah like i'm still sort of a checkout Guy.
Speaker 5: At wegmans so like if.
Speaker 1: YOU like i was nineteen, YEARS old i, WAS nineteen, i,
GO yeah i also do, you know because they they
were they didn't BELIEVE that i was, that, old right because,
you know you're thinking somebody on the radio is. Probably
older maybe you sat a. Little older AND so, i,
SAID no. I AM and i was Working at Adams,
fairker farms which is like A. Mini WEGMANS and i
was in the deli, cutting meat.
Speaker 5: Cutting me.
Speaker 1: Cutting meat that's what. It, was yes you had to
meet uh, all right bowled the uh hard? Knocks tonight
what are you expecting to see?
Speaker 10: On?
Speaker 1: THERE what I don't i don't know What they this
is the final episode that airs tonight.
Speaker 5: AT nine i think there's one or. Two MORE actually
i felt like there was five, Or, SIX OKAY i i.
Speaker 1: DON'T know i. DON'T remember i got bored Watching, the
JETS so i didn't finish last season or two seasons
ago or whenever.
Speaker 5: That, WAS yeah, i, uh now, you know it's a.
Speaker 3: Good, question obviously they'll have the last preseason game on
and so it'll probably be about, You, know Bouchelle maybe
shavers' touchdown catch and, you know stuff in, the game
AND then i would, just well it's it's kind of
too late because THEY'RE not i don't know if they
would have done any cuts in time, for tonight, Probably
NOT so i think that might be next. Week's episode,
will well they'll you know the famous air quotes, turk, yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah that's gonna get cut, and like hey not
that that knock, door opens grab, your playbook come, with, me,
yeah Right.
Speaker 5: WORDS downbut i think they did.
Speaker 1: They have interns doing it for, A minute i.
Speaker 3: THINK so i think That Whole grim reaper thing kind of. Went, away,
yeah now and they made it a little.
Speaker 5: BIT more i don't even know what the, word is
but a little bit more tolerant for those that were losing,
their job.
Speaker 3: Because it was it was way too obvious when you
knew on that day that this could be your day
one way or. The other, when that when that, not
came you knew it wasn't, someone, saying hey guess what
you made?
Speaker 5: The team yeah? Right NOW so i think they they
made it a little bit, more humane if.
Speaker 1: You, WILL yeah i think. THEY did I thought i
thought there was a time though they used to send
interns down to tell the players get, your playbook the
coach wants to. See you AND the nfl said you
can no longer use interns to. Do THAT so i
think THAT'S what i was. Told by it might Have
Been dan burrilla who told me that because he Was
a fisher And a, bill's intern, excuse me one of
the first early on in the training Camp. Of FISHER
so i don't know what other exciting things are Happening in. Bull's, life,
well well.
Speaker 3: LET'S see i am gonna be doing a couple Of
different bills shows. Coming UP unfortunately i can only tell
you about one. Of, them okay but it is On
in buffalo and a SMALL independent. Tv station It's Called
the Shack And First Down Hold on SHACK and i
always get the title, wrong whatever but it's Usually on
saturday Nights and sunday Mornings, in buffalo and It's a
i'm very.
Speaker 5: Proud of it's a. Great show it's a low.
Speaker 3: Budget show we have absolutely no access whatsoever To anything.
Bills like we have no we can't, use video we
can't use, still pictures we can't, you know really do interviews.
Speaker 5: Or anything so we just kind of wing it as.
We go but we're.
Speaker 6: It's not.
Speaker 5: It's. Football talk it's some fun and. Some laughter. It's
cool we have, this Kid this buffalo kid who's.
Speaker 3: Now playing IN the uf alleys quarterback For The memphis
showboats in the you know that's called The g League, of,
Football right so he's The local buffalo kid that comes
on and does.
Speaker 5: Some stuff and we Have the bill's past and.
Speaker 3: Present guests we have some of, you Know The bill's
mafia people that, You know bill's.
Speaker 5: Elvish pintoker, yeah. Yeah Yeah buffalo joe came on.
Speaker 3: Last year he'll probably come in again. This YEAR so
i got that, going on and THEY got i got
two other really. Significant ones that are coming up, as
well are they or one will be streaming and our
first show Is on september, twenty second and believe it,
OR not i don't know where we can, stream IT
so i will let's do something between now and then a.
Speaker 5: Little bit closer. To, it sure if you, wouldn't MIND so,
I can And then i'm also in line.
Speaker 3: To this this IS really i really can't say much
of it at all about it yet because it's.
Speaker 5: Not firm but there might.
Speaker 3: Be a Particular former bills player who might arguably be
the most favorite player of all time with ANOTHER former
nfl player who might be Coming to buffalo in a
couple of weeks as part of. A game THAT'S all i.
Can say but you might be doing a three. Way
event that sounds.
Speaker 1: Not no it doesn't sound it sounds very very on.
RADIO friendly i don't know in twenty. TWENTY five i
don't think you can do that three.
Speaker 3: Way there there there might be a live conversation with.
Speaker 5: The three of us put it there that would be
great at some Point, in buffalo so that one will
be a.
Speaker 3: MASSIVE deal i should know more about that by the
end of, the week and if that gets taken.
Speaker 5: Care of so those are my two big BILLSY things
i got. Going on So.
Speaker 1: Anymore ball In, The basement ball In.
Speaker 5: The, basement, well see So clearly. I'm working i'm. USING
you i hope you. Know this.
Speaker 3: That's fine this is my fail safe to to SEE
if i can actually do this again on my, new
laptop my first laptop.
Speaker 5: Twenty. Five YEAH so i think we're we're able to do.
This Now so ball in the placement.
Speaker 3: Will slowly be making a comeback On my, facebook pages on.
Speaker 5: My YouTube and it was nicely it was.
Speaker 1: Nicely PRODUCED when i, SAW that i was impressed the,
uh yeah your, your mike whatever. You did the setting
is better in the. SECOND half, I mean i don't care,
either way but that. For you you're gonna wanna you
don't want to.
Speaker 5: Know that, so YES and I think i got it right.
This time you got. It right you did get.
Speaker 1: It, right well thank you for spending some time.
Speaker 5: WITH me i.
Speaker 1: LOVED it i think we should do this every every
once in. A while let's definitely do it before that.
Streaming show send me. A, reminder, Okay.
Speaker 3: Yeah i'm gonna Be in rochester doing some stand up
at The Mccuay Jesuit High School athletic Hall of fame
induction Ceremony on.
Speaker 5: September eleventh i'm kidding about the stand. UP part i
will be.
Speaker 1: HOSTING it i was, gonna, say well that'll be the
second bombing that happened eleven.
Speaker 5: Will.
Speaker 3: Be uh i'll be around that WEEKEND so i can,
catch up, AND yeah i would.
Speaker 5: Love That maybe i'll come live on. The, show yeah
that would.
Speaker 1: Be, Great absolutely maybe we'll even. Tape, one uh that
is That. A saturday It's. A thursday It's a thursday.
Speaker 5: Because It's, My, OKAY oh i hate saying this is
a school. Reunion, weekend, yeah, buddy yeah. It's uh and
it's FUNNY when i tell.
Speaker 3: PEOPLE that I just i just remember being like twenty
five and hearing, People, SAY.
Speaker 5: Eric i got my fortieth, Flight, scory like, damn it.
Speaker 6: You are so.
Speaker 3: Freaking, Old yeah, jesus man that'd.
Speaker 1: Be, great, well look it's better than. The alternative let's
put it, that, Way right it's way better than. The alternative,
so yeah let me let. Me know i'd love to have.
You in that would, be great, all right to, the crew.
Speaker 3: You, know yes all those PEOPLE that i know so
well and have spent so much time with over, the
years so all the best, to them and and AND
and i, Don't know i'm, gonna say had A.
Speaker 1: GREAT connors, i will you, Know what i'm supposed to
have dinner with, them tomorrow so we'll definitely.
Speaker 5: Do, that Yeah but.
Speaker 1: I'll definitely i'm gonna. Tell them Rich The bull, gensler,
says hello.
Speaker 5: That'll be my icebreaker. For dinner.
Speaker 1: Thank, You ball Thank.
Speaker 5: You bilified i'm jumping in.
Speaker 6: The water off.
Speaker 5: The sea let there he Goes.
Speaker 1: For Rich The bull gendler and His.
Speaker 5: SUSPECT audio I guess i. Don't Know I'm.
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