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All right, on today's episode, let that ask Paul. It
was kind of an interesting one. I got an email
from somebody and i'll paraphrase it asking I'm going to
talk about a couple things today. Not only am I
going to answer the question, but I'm going to express
my disgust again with n FPA so that you want
to hang out for and I'll end up with our
thermal imaging course and I kind of let you know
a little bit about that and what's been updated on that.
Speaker 1: But we'll start off that way.
Speaker 2: So first things first, the question asked me, Paul, do
you think that AI will take electrician jobs in the future,
in light of the recent robot that was launched by
Tesla and other companies, do you think there will be
ever a point in time where our skills will be
diminished by AI? Okay, that's a great question, and it
is on a lot of people's minds, especially younger folks
that are just getting in the trade. They're twenty, in
their early twenties. Now those that are in their fifties
and late forties. Whatnot no quick answer, no, no, no,
You're going to be before that becomes anything remotely near
that type of skilled You're going to be retired, so
you don't have to worry.
Speaker 1: I mean, I take that to the bank.
Speaker 2: Okay, I know, Paul says, well, I shouldn't say that,
but take it to the bank.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: The question is folks getting into trade today and they're
late teens, eighteen, nineteen.
Speaker 1: Twenty, well twenties note teens, but you get what I mean.
Speaker 2: And you're going through your twenties and you're working in
an apprenticeship program, you're working in an IBEW or NIKA.
Maybe you're working for a tractor non union or union,
it doesn't matter, and you're learning these skills, these trades,
these these things that you can do with your hand,
and hopefully at the same time you're learning mentally why
you're doing that. I encourage people all the time, you know,
don't go through all of this stuff learning to just
use your hands when you have the prime opportunity to
also learn fundamentally why you're doing it. And I'll remind
you that there is no and it's not just because
I sell courses. It is no time like the very
start to start learning the NEC. Especially if there's terminologies
and things you don't understand, this is the perfect time
to jump into.
Speaker 1: It, Okay.
Speaker 2: And I'm going to have a special announcement in the
next week or so about an AI tool which is
very fitting for this episode that will be used by
students who are learning the National Electrical Code and they
want to have the ability to ad ask AI specific
code specific questions and without having to have a separate
subscription to something like a chat, GPT or gronk or whatever.
We're going to come up with a program that integrates
or allows you to be able to have an account
as well on our trade Hog, which is our highly
advanced AI code model.
Speaker 1: And so listen for that in the future.
Speaker 2: It's basically just like now when you buy an enhanced
course from US and you get a year's access to
fast Tracks Tube, it'll be it also where you'll get
a year's access to trade Hog, and it'll be a
certain area on trade Hog called smart Hog, and that
is just for the students, and it's going to work
hand in hand with our program, our courses explanation, and
it's just going to be a little more enhanced.
Speaker 1: But I'm not ready to announce that yet.
Speaker 2: So that wasn't the purpose here to talk about AI
and then announce what we got going on, because I
do believe that we can utilize AI positively to help
people learn.
Speaker 1: But let's kind of let's kind.
Speaker 2: Of dial it back a little bit and go back
to is it going to take my job? Well, the
short answer is for the electrical trade, plumbing trade, mechanical trade.
Speaker 1: No. Now, is it going to take some aspects of
the job.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it might help out in artificial intelligence, it may
help do plan review. It may help do some tasks
like bidding and estimating and things like that. And obviously
the more the plans are detailed and an AI model
can look at it scan it in and can look
for all these symbols and start doing all some of
the adding tasks and those type of things. Obviously, we
have a lot of software today, like the best Bid
Hybrid pro that's out there that's in a bidding software
that probably has some of this smart technology built into it,
and I'm sure others are doing that, and.
Speaker 1: So it's going to take some of that role.
Speaker 2: But I think at the end of the day, there's
going to have to be people that manage this because
I think as smart as AI is getting and it's becoming,
it still has to be prompted by somebody with a
logical approach to what we're trying to achieve. And so
I think that AI is going to follow that model.
So if you're in that part of the trades, bidding, estimating,
product procurement, stocking, warehousing, supply houses, things like that, yeah,
I think that you know, if you're doing a career
in that, I would say, you know your days may
be numbered. Example, you know, to go deeper into what
I'm talking about, let me just let me just get
the electrician and plumbing mechanical.
Speaker 1: Let's get that out of the way first.
Speaker 2: No, you're learning a skill that is not something that's
and you say, well, don't ever say never, Paul, in
your lifetime, we are not going to replace the need
for the electrician. In fact, even if it did get
some element of AI involved in that mechanically, like these
little robots, there's going to be mistakes that it's just
something that you know they're not gonna be able. Like
somebody puts up a lighting outlet outside and the wrong
location and it gets sighting, gets put on and they say, oop,
that's the wrong location. That's got to be changed. You're
not going to have a robot who's intelligent enough to
come back and take that out, pull it down, think
about where.
Speaker 1: The new one goes and put back up.
Speaker 2: No, because the skilled tradesman is going to go and say, oh, okay,
this is where you want it. I know how to
take it down, how to put it back up, put
it back the way it needs to be. That's skill
that takes training. And I don't think that we'll ever
get to that point. But I you know, again, not
in my lifetime, right, not in my lifetime do I.
Speaker 1: Think we'll ever we'll ever get to that.
Speaker 2: Okay, Now, some of the menial tasks that are out there,
and I don't mean this to be little. Those tasks,
so the electrician, plumber, mechanical some of the aspects.
Speaker 1: What you do.
Speaker 2: Uh maybe you know, like we'll have self driving work
trucks that maybe you just sit in and it drives
you to the location. We'll have pick up supplies from
supply house. Maybe you can use the robotaxi or that approach.
A company will do that and cut the labor out
of somebody they're having to pay somebody's wages and healthcare
and all these benefits because it can be done automated. Sure,
that's gonna come. I can tell you right now. In Dallas,
for example, there's there's automatic vehicles or autonomous vehicles that
you can rent, not just the robotaxi, but another and
I can't think of a name, but there's another one
that'll come and pick you up and take you somewhere
in the city for an a nominal fee. That's here,
and that's gonna that's gonna get worse. I mean, you've
got the Teslas that now you can basically get in
and it drives itself.
Speaker 1: So I mean that's coming. We already know that. So
some of those roles like the.
Speaker 2: Uber drivers and taxi drivers and all that your days
are numbered, they really make your money. Why you can,
because you're gonna have things like Uber go the way
of they're gonna say, wait a minute, why do I
pay people to do this when we can get these robotaxis.
Speaker 1: We can just spend the money in that.
Speaker 2: We not have to pay workers comp, we don't have
to pay health insurance, we don't have none of that.
Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Or they're going to reduce it down to a fleet
that maybe just like the ones that go two hours
from somewhere to an airport, although there's really no need
because the robotaxis are fully driving. Cars can do that now,
and it's only going to expand, and people are gonna
be hiring fleets of these cause it's cheaper. Another example,
I saw the thing where the robots that are out.
I don't know about the Tesla one, but I saw
another one that was just launched.
Speaker 1: The other day.
Speaker 2: It's kind of spooky looking, dude, but it's twenty grand.
Speaker 1: It's twenty grand. Think about it.
Speaker 2: Think about me paying an employee to simply carry boxes
in ups, storerooms or whatever from place to place when
I can have a robot go pick up that box
and move it from place to place. And you're saying
it can't happen, it's already happening. Think about it. I
can hire fifty of them dudes at twenty thousand a
pop and probably get a deal if I buy a
bunch of them, and then I get rid of labor,
overhead workers, comp benefits. They can work seven to twenty
four to seven. You give what I'm saying, I don't have.
Speaker 1: To worry about giving them breaks on weekends.
Speaker 2: If you don't think the companies are going to do that,
you're crazy, because they are gets rid of HR issues.
Nobody argues about promotions, nobody argues about moving up in there.
Speaker 1: They don't bitch, it's gonna happen.
Speaker 2: We already have around the country people that can go
into fast food restaurants put your own order into a touchscreen,
and now they don't have to have thirty employees there.
They can have just a couple people cooking in the
back and somebody work in the front counter.
Speaker 1: One person. All they're doing is moving orders.
Speaker 2: From the shelf where the cook puts it on the
shelf in a bag over to the counter and it
calls out the number and you co pick it up
and you leave. Well, that eliminates a lot of employees.
And if I own the McDonald's around it, that's what
I want. And you say, well, nothing should replace the
human interaction. Bullshit, folks, it's happening. It's gonna happen. You
can disagree with it all you want. It's happening in
any way that businesses, whether you agree with it or not.
If there's any way that a business can remove the
troublesome element of human resource, they're gonna do it. What
other reason do you think they're creating these robots for
just to do it? No, come on, we have to
use some comment. It doesn't mean you have to agree,
and you can have your own opinion. But think about it.
I owned a company. Let's even break it down even
more to a ups drivers, empedex drivers, let's break it
down even more so. If I create these vans, I
don't need big ones anymore because usually we have the
bigger vans, right, so we have much bigger carry more.
You know, one driver's got so many packages they have
to deliver in a day. You could actually cut that
down to much smaller vans, put more fleets out there
because you remove the labor. Have these little robots that
the car drives it there. The robot just sits there
on the side of the truck. Once you get there,
it drops it down, it walks over, scans it in
its vision, scans the package it's loaded a certain way,
It picks it, it walks up to your house, it
drops it on your porch, and it goes back. If
you say, well, that will never happen, dude, you haven't
been watching the videos of these robots.
Speaker 1: You haven't been watching it. I have. They already can
do these types of tasks, climb over things, climb up things,
go up steps, carry boxes. They have gyro sensors in
there that keep their balance. I knew this was coming
all the way back when I saw the segues and
the ability for their gyro systems to keep them upright.
Speaker 2: That is a matter of time before they made it
into something. And this isn't this isn't.
Speaker 1: Sci fi stuff.
Speaker 2: And so if you don't think that the delivery and
shipping companies will not get to the point where they
don't have to pay these rages, they don't have to
worry about unions. They don't have to worry about people
fighting for pay raises. If you don't think they'll do it,
you'll give them a robot that will actually do that.
You give somebody out there that creates a van with
a built in robot that can scan and pick up
a package because of a barcode system or NFC system
or whatnot. Dude, I've seen these cars, Tesla car pull
right into parking spaces. They could pull right into your driveway.
So at the end of the day, now they got
what they got, semi trucks that drive and they say, well,
that's scary to be on the road.
Speaker 1: I get it.
Speaker 2: But they're not going away. They're still here and they're coming.
Nobody's moving back. I mean, look at Elon, he just
got you know, what is it, one trillion dollars each,
first ever CEO to possibly go into a salary of
over a trillion dollars. He deserves it. Look what he's developed. Hey,
I'm a believer. When you earn it's yours. No, I
don't believe in this equality shit where you got to
give it and distribute it to the wealth equal league bullshit.
You earn it, you own it. I don't believe in
that crap, that socialist crap. They can keep that in
New York. But at the end of the day, it's coming.
But the good thing about being skilled is that they're
not gonna take away the skill. They're gonna take away
the menial jobs package delivery, working in fast food change
because if I own a fast food change chain, I
want less employees, I want less headaches.
Speaker 1: I'd rather pay a.
Speaker 2: Small group of people more than a bunch of people
minimum wage personally and in habits as autonomous as possible.
Now you can disagree, but it's coming.
Speaker 1: I'm no profit here. It's coming. And in other countries
they're using it way more than we are. So when
you think about what you.
Speaker 2: Want to do, and you're a young person and you're
thinking about, Okay, I want to make fast food a career,
you know, don't be struggling in your thirties and forties
trying to find something to do.
Speaker 1: You need to make a decision early, you know.
Speaker 2: And occasionally, back in the day, I used to speak
at vocational schools.
Speaker 1: I don't really do that anymore.
Speaker 2: I mean I don't get requests for it because I
think it stopped once I went to Texas is talking
to the young people about the future. You know, everybody
was pushed to go to school. Everybody was pushed to
go to college. And in college, you know they're pushing
to get certain degrees that are going to be easily replaced. Accounting,
I don't do anything with my accounting anymore. My quick
books pro is all automated. It pays the payroll, it
does everything I pay with everything with the credit card.
Speaker 1: It automatically goes into my payroll.
Speaker 2: At the end, I just printed out push one button
and I can follow my taxes. Okay, it's so sophisticated
now that you can be going to school to get
a degree in something that will be totally unable to
use five to ten years from now. It's a wasted degree.
I'm not saying all degrees are wasted. I mean you're
still gonna need your doctors. Although you know you've seen
Star Trek, Okay, you never know the future. You know technology,
but at the end of the day, you're still gonna
have somebody that needs to look at it and evaluate,
and so there are certain things you're gonna need. I mean,
I look for at the future, what do you need
a lawyer for You'll have a robot lawyer there who
has every bit of the law book in its database.
And it's so intelligent, right, It's so intelligent that it
will be able to create plausible arguments and discussions.
Speaker 1: It's just coming.
Speaker 2: So no profession, except for my opinion, is protected except
for the trades. Yeah, that's again not gonna say every right,
But when it comes to the trades, there's that element
of knowledge that you have to have and physical ability
that you have to have. Put those together, and that's
what you have in order to bring to the industry,
and we're going to need it. There's too many thought
processes for wiring a building. There's too much that you
can get AI or these robots to do menial tasks
on a job site, maybe carry stuff, carry pipe, whatever.
But at the end of the day, you're not going
to get rid of your skill. This is why I
tell people, and Mike Row has been saying this for years.
I've been saying it if you follow my podcast for
well over ten years. The best thing that you can
do is get a trade. You want to use it
or not get it. You go to school, you want
to go to a degree to get an art degree
or whatnot.
Speaker 1: At some point.
Speaker 2: Even teachers are going to be replaced. So I'm just saying, look,
I can only speak for the trade. Okay, anybody out
there who's who's young and getting into this and thinking,
do I want to become an electrician, plumber, mechanical, if
I want to become a welder. Shit, theyk got machines
at all, weld now for you. But there's going to
be unique situations where you just can't use a machine.
But when it comes to the trade, sky's the limit.
You're not gonna send a robot into somebody's house to
troubleshoot something. You say, well, it will be one day,
not in your lifespan. No, I don't buy it. Obviously,
to help tasks and reduce the labor rate menial things again,
fast food delivery point a shit do you won't even
need somebody to work the counter because all they have
to do is put the food in a certain trade
arm will come down and grab it, carry it over
and put it on the counter and you know, doable now.
I mean I think in Japan they have some similar things.
I mean, you know, fast food's never been a career anyway.
But you see with the minimum wage going crazy in
places like California that restaurants can't even stay in business
because of having to pay mentum wage.
Speaker 1: Because people have thought that fast food is a career.
That is not a career.
Speaker 2: Now, I'm not talking about a manager, I'm not talking
about an owner, but I'm talking about a young person
who's going in saying what do I do. If you
want to do it part time while you're working through school,
or you're trying to get a trade and you're going
to night school or whatever, that's fine.
Speaker 1: You got to make a living. But to count it
as a career, no.
Speaker 2: Now, I'm not buying it, you know, I'm just not
buying it. And eventually you're going to be obsolete, You're
gonna be unnecessary. Now, I can't tell you when that's
gonna happen, five years from now, ten years from now,
but I can tell you one of the big things
that shows up all the time on every news channel
is are we worried about AI taking over? And for
many of you today, I would be worried. I would
be very worried. Now, if you're already in your late forties,
your fifties, and you know early you're close to retirement. Anyway,
I think you've got good ten to fifteen years. That's
just my opinion. And I think young folks learn a
trade so that you can have longevity and the sky
is the limit, whether you want to be your own boss,
whether you want to work for somebody. Let me give
you another example example. And this is I kind of
you know, I hate to preach to people, but I
preach to young people and I tell him trade.
Speaker 1: Let me give you another trade. Let me give you
example locksmith.
Speaker 2: So people say being a locksmith is a declining trade.
Speaker 1: It's trade.
Speaker 2: By the way, they say it's a declining trade because
everything's going electronic now. Most of these electronics still have
a key override. Most of businesses still have a key entry.
Most of the vehicles today use these smart fobs that
have to be reprogrammed. Keys still need to be made,
locks still need to be picked. It's a trade. It's
not going to be replaced by AI. It's a trade.
Speaker 1: Okay. Now here's the difference.
Speaker 2: In Virginia, you don't even have to All you gotta
do is be eighteen years old, pass a background check,
take eighteen hours of education and you can become a
locksmith and you could hang your shingle out there and
learn as you go, and you know you might. If
you go to somebody and you can't get something open,
then what's the worst you go, I'm sorry, I can't
get it open. I'm not gonna charge you. Yeah, but
you're learning Texas, for example, to be a locksmith, it's
not easy. So you have to look at different states
and take your opportunities. If you're in Virginia, for example,
it's simple. You do those little things two days. You
take two days, you take a two day course, you
get your hours, you send in your fingerprints, you get certified,
You get licensed as a locksmith, whether you don't know
one thing about it, although you'll learn it while you train.
But here's the thing. Anybody can do it in Texas.
You can't in Texas. You gotta be work for somebody
for four freaking years for somebody. So if you want
to be a locksmith and you're making money doing something else,
and you're thinking, well, I want to be a locksmith.
I'm gonna make money, No, you got to either give
up the job you're doing, which may be the job
that's paying your family in order to work for somebody
for probably minimum wage till you get your four years.
Then you can go and apply to be a locksmith
in Virginia. This is different in different different states. In Virginia,
it's not the case. You simply go DCJS, you fill
out the application and you get your fingerprints done. You
don't have any background issues, no felonies or whatnot. You
get your background done, everything done, get your eighteen hours
and submit it and guess what, You're a licensed locksmith
and you can start marketing your business. Same with the
PI if you have the hour. Now you have to
have a certain number of hours to be a PI.
You have to have the training courses, but that's just courses.
You don't have to work for somebody.
Speaker 1: For years.
Speaker 2: I know, I was a PI in Virginia. People say,
how the world did you become a PI. This was
back when I was also an NEC consultant and I
worked for Alexandria Virginia. And on the side, I started
a PI business in order to primarily help another guy
who did not have the hours, did not have the time,
and again I worked for me this POLY because I worked,
we worked for the Fire Department. I had already qualified,
I had the number of hours in experience, so all
I had to do was take and I had already
taken a course probably five years earlier, just for fun,
but it got me the hours I needed, so I qualified,
And so I started this business primarily to help the
other guy get his experience okay, and do the training
so that he could get his license and then take
over the firm.
Speaker 1: And then I just left. I was only there for
a couple of years.
Speaker 2: Only did it for a couple of years, and I
primarily only focused on slip and fall cases with electrical
or building codes whatnot. That lawyers would reach out and
I would go and do an analysis of the slip
and fall location and see if it was code compliant,
whether the handrails were right, steps were right, rise was
right enough, foot candles illumination, whether exit signs were properly whatever,
give them a plausible fault that they could bring it
to a case and hopefully settle for a large amount
of money.
Speaker 1: Nobody wants to go to trial. They like to settle, So.
Speaker 2: If you give them enough information, you can settle and
get a number for your client that you really wanted
that's the dirty secret.
Speaker 1: It is what it is. Now.
Speaker 2: Sometimes it do go to trial, but I mean every
or the majority of them end in a settlement because
it costs more to go to court than it does
to just settle. So at the end of the day,
in different state that you're in, it doesn't matter whether
you want to be electrician, plumber, mechanical guy. It doesn't
matter a welder, locksmith, whenever you want. Look for trades.
Look for things that I.
Speaker 1: Consider locksmith trade.
Speaker 2: Look for things that are going to be skilled driven
that are not easily replaced by AI, because that's where
it's going. Whether you like it or not. You can
agree to disagree, it is where it's going. And so
my advice to young folks is don't if you're going
to college, don't get those fluffy ass degrees that are
going to be so easily replaced in the future or
everybody's doing it and you cannot find a freaking job.
I got tons of friends who became engineers, and they
can't even find a job that they're doing something that's
not even involved in the in the in the electrical
or engineering trade.
Speaker 1: Because they got to pay the bills. They got a
school debt.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 2: And also, folks, don't everybody out there says, well, I
just go to school and let the government pay my debt. No,
that's that's a pussy approach. That is not That's not
how it should work. Okay, if you generate debt, you
should pay your debt. I don't believe in handouts. I
don't believe in government assistants. Sorry, I just don't say
what you want, negative, stop following me whatever.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 2: I believe that everybody can get out and work and
do something, be creative.
Speaker 1: Okay, stop milking everything off the government.
Speaker 2: That's why we're in trillions of dollars a debt because
we create all these programs that can't be supported and
we're just in debt.
Speaker 1: So anyway, enough of that.
Speaker 2: But again, my advice to young folks, get a job
that is focused on your skill. There's nothing better than
the electrical trade. You have many opportunities where it's commercial,
residential service work, electronics like security, all these other types
of things that you can do. You have opportunity, and
you're not going to be replaced with AI. That's my message. Okay,
all right, folks, hopefully I answered that question for that
now let's move into the other thing.
Speaker 1: I just want to shout out to NFPA.
Speaker 2: I know they won't listen to anything I do, and
they certainly won't listen this far into a broadcast. Shame
on you, NFPA for sending these notices. When you sign up,
you redid it so that they have to sign up
and check something. When you use link or the free
access online, it does not allow educators to use the content.
In order to teach people the NEC, we have to
paraphrase it. Paraphrasing does not help the student learn the
NEC for an exam prep. If you want to create
things like code changes and whatnot, paraphrasing is fine, but
it does not help people because people write code exams
or writing it and even these exams that are being
written are based on verbatim words from the code, so
they should be forced to have to paraphrase THEIRS.
Speaker 1: It's not right. It's a problem, NFPA.
Speaker 2: If you're an educator and you're teaching other people, you
should be able to use link. You should be able
to use the NFPA NPA seventy document as well as
other documents for that. That's called transformational information. It's protected
under the Fair Use Act. You're not copying, you're not reselling,
you're using utilizing the material for commentary and educational purposes,
regardless of whether you're getting paid for it.
Speaker 1: It's irrelevant.
Speaker 2: Every textbook that used in a university is basically sharing
verb datim the information from that textbook verbatim, same Fair
Use Act, no different. The problem is NFPA create this
situation where they're being bullies. I see CS the same way.
They're all the same way. They want to act like
that as their copyrighted material. It is not, and I
think it's a problem because they print it and they
sell it for profit. Don't think they're just a nonprofit, okay.
The nonprofit is a fancy way of saying everybody that's
employed gets paid.
Speaker 1: It's just you end up with zero. It's a fancy
word for nonprofit. Okay.
Speaker 2: So at the end of the day, Jim Pauley gets
his salary, all these others get their salary.
Speaker 1: Okay. So the point of the matter is.
Speaker 2: The information that's out there is for use and educational
purposes only. You should not be bullied by these disclaimers
that say you can't use it for educational purposes.
Speaker 1: Shame on them.
Speaker 2: You got to remember the National Electrical Code is developed
by you, the general public, by us that sit on
code panels. NFPA cannot vote, n FPA cannot chime in
on material other than helping give direction during meetings. They
cannot have any input on the development of the EC.
Yet they can publish it, print it, and sell it
under the guys that they're going to do good work,
that they're going to help make things safer. And I
don't disagree with that. What I disagree with is they
treat it like it's their material. And yes, they force
all of us on code panel to sign a document
acknowledging that the work we do becomes theirs.
Speaker 1: I get it, I get it.
Speaker 2: But to tell educators or to have something pop up
that you know that we have to agree to that
that I can't use it in a in a YouTube video,
or I can't use it in in a course or
something because they fear you into this being a copyright issue.
Speaker 1: It's fair use. It's fair use.
Speaker 2: They didn't even create it, they didn't even write it.
Now that's different. In a commentary. They want to sell
a handbook, that's fine, that's commentary but not the document,
and I am strongly against it. They know my position,
but they don't care, right, they don't care what my
position is. So anyway, and I'm probably the only educator
out there who will speak up because most of them
want to keep this fluffy fluffy relationship with NFPA, and
I don't give a shit. I'm not friends with any
of them. So at the end of the day, it
is what it is. Just you know, you call a
spade a spade, it is what it is. I have
a hard enough time convincing people that it's a fair
process to have NFPA do this and make it seem
even more like a money grab who do you think it.
NFPA's biggest promoters are educators. I tell people all the
time to buy link I promoted all the time in
all my videos. I tell people buy link by link
by link. I tell people to get codebooks. I tell
them to get them from an FPA. Don't buy them
from anywhere else, buy from it. But yet they're going
to penalize us for doing that, educators for doing that. Anyway,
I have a big problem with it, uh and I'm
going to continue to use it. And they know where
I'm at. Their lawyers know where I'm at. They can
come get me. I'm okay with that, not a problem
with it.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: Lastly, talking about our thermal imaging course, I have a
few of the amp Bank H one eight's available. Y'all
know that on our website we have a thermal imaging course.
It's a black and white. It's not imaged based. It's
black and white. It's lessonal and I lessenal or lesson driven,
I should say, whereas it's basically wanting you to put
the thermal imaging camera in your hand and actually use
real things like your panel and other things, rather than
try to push you through a bunch of images. So
it's explained in a way that makes it you know,
we're trying to paint a mental picture. But the hope
is that you have a thermal imaging camera in your
hand why you go through the course. So I would
never recommend the course without having a thermal imaging camera.
For those that listen to me on here, if you
buy one of our thermal imaging cameras or H one
twenty eight's that'll put out by AMP Bank, we're going
to sell them below MSRP they're on our website, fasttracksystem
dot com. If you go to the main page, it's
a black and white page. You go to the bottom,
you'll see a link for it.
Speaker 1: If you do that and you order one of these.
Speaker 2: Cameras and it comes in within a day or two,
you will get for a limited time and I can't
tell you expiration on this for limited time, we will
send you an email back with a discount code. Whereas
you can order the course for fifty percent off. Okay,
So that way you have something to work with with
your thermal camera. Now, can you buy our course without
buying a thermal camera. Absolutely, if you've got your own
maybe a Flear or or was it Flear and Fluke
and there's other brands, go for it. You just won't
get the fifty percent off because that's if you buy
our camera on our website. Okay, So I mean course
is still great, it's still gonna be beneficial to you.
But obviously we're promoting our camera, the one that we've
tested and we like for use with resident for residential, commercial, industrial, electricians,
and so we have one that we promote and then
you don't have to have it if you already.
Speaker 1: Got one still can use the course.
Speaker 2: The other thing about our course is it's perpetual means
it's constantly being added to.
Speaker 1: It's not done.
Speaker 2: We keep adding adding, We take recommendations from people, students,
things that you want us to put in there. We
will keep adding it and keep making it better. So
it's not like you might log in you see nineteen units.
You might log into your course and you're using it
to go back later to look at the chapter to say,
let me reread this chat. You may notice that there's
twenty two units in there now because we will keep
adding as we want to add that type of thing.
So they're available over in our website fasttrackssystem dot com.
That's t R a X not t R A c K,
by the way. Check it out and we look forward
to having you get in that course. And of course,
like always in our courses, we have what's called fast
Tracks Interact and that is a feature while you're in
the course. You got to be in your course and
the bottom right of the screen is a little blue
cloud looks like a chat cloud.
Speaker 1: You click on that and.
Speaker 2: Then you can post questions, connect snapshots, upload images, cutting
paste any question you want there and we will log
in and we'll answer it that type of thing. Right,
So it's a unique feature to our programs, all right,
So check it out, go to our website fastracksystem dot com.
Hope you enjoyed this podcast episode, hope you learned something,
and so until next time, stay safe, God blessed, and
we will catch you on an upcoming episode of Let's
Ask Paul Peace.
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