1 00:00:33,399 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: What up, everybody? 2 00:00:34,439 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 2: Welcome to another edition of Let's Ask Paul, the podcast 3 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:40,840 where you get to ask me Paul Abernette anything you 4 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:45,359 want regarding the National Electrical Code, all things electrically related, 5 00:00:46,119 --> 00:00:50,520 and even topics that are, you know, broadly electrically related. 6 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:53,159 I'm more than happy to chime in and opine on 7 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:56,719 those topics and help you maybe answer some questions or thoughts, 8 00:00:56,759 --> 00:00:58,479 or maybe you want my opinion, or maybe you don't 9 00:00:58,520 --> 00:00:59,920 give a darn about my opinion. 10 00:01:00,119 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: That's okay, I'm gonna do it anyway. 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That's perfectly acceptable 31 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:17,360 to do that as well over at fasttracks tube dot com. 32 00:02:17,439 --> 00:02:19,879 All right, on today's episode, let that ask Paul. It 33 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:22,439 was kind of an interesting one. I got an email 34 00:02:22,479 --> 00:02:26,240 from somebody and i'll paraphrase it asking I'm going to 35 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:28,280 talk about a couple things today. Not only am I 36 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:32,840 going to answer the question, but I'm going to express 37 00:02:32,879 --> 00:02:36,199 my disgust again with n FPA so that you want 38 00:02:36,199 --> 00:02:39,520 to hang out for and I'll end up with our 39 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,280 thermal imaging course and I kind of let you know 40 00:02:42,319 --> 00:02:44,479 a little bit about that and what's been updated on that. 41 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:45,879 Speaker 1: But we'll start off that way. 42 00:02:46,599 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 2: So first things first, the question asked me, Paul, do 43 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:54,759 you think that AI will take electrician jobs in the future, 44 00:02:55,319 --> 00:02:58,800 in light of the recent robot that was launched by 45 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:02,439 Tesla and other companies, do you think there will be 46 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,680 ever a point in time where our skills will be 47 00:03:05,719 --> 00:03:12,039 diminished by AI? Okay, that's a great question, and it 48 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,919 is on a lot of people's minds, especially younger folks 49 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,840 that are just getting in the trade. They're twenty, in 50 00:03:17,879 --> 00:03:20,759 their early twenties. Now those that are in their fifties 51 00:03:20,759 --> 00:03:25,719 and late forties. Whatnot no quick answer, no, no, no, 52 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:30,240 You're going to be before that becomes anything remotely near 53 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,719 that type of skilled You're going to be retired, so 54 00:03:33,759 --> 00:03:34,560 you don't have to worry. 55 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I take that to the bank. 56 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:38,759 Speaker 2: Okay, I know, Paul says, well, I shouldn't say that, 57 00:03:38,919 --> 00:03:41,240 but take it to the bank. 58 00:03:41,639 --> 00:03:41,919 Speaker 1: Now. 59 00:03:43,159 --> 00:03:47,199 Speaker 2: The question is folks getting into trade today and they're 60 00:03:47,319 --> 00:03:49,719 late teens, eighteen, nineteen. 61 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: Twenty, well twenties note teens, but you get what I mean. 62 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 2: And you're going through your twenties and you're working in 63 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,280 an apprenticeship program, you're working in an IBEW or NIKA. 64 00:03:58,479 --> 00:04:01,960 Maybe you're working for a tractor non union or union, 65 00:04:02,039 --> 00:04:05,360 it doesn't matter, and you're learning these skills, these trades, 66 00:04:05,479 --> 00:04:09,159 these these things that you can do with your hand, 67 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,759 and hopefully at the same time you're learning mentally why 68 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,800 you're doing that. I encourage people all the time, you know, 69 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:19,319 don't go through all of this stuff learning to just 70 00:04:19,439 --> 00:04:23,240 use your hands when you have the prime opportunity to 71 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:27,240 also learn fundamentally why you're doing it. And I'll remind 72 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:30,240 you that there is no and it's not just because 73 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,720 I sell courses. It is no time like the very 74 00:04:33,959 --> 00:04:38,079 start to start learning the NEC. Especially if there's terminologies 75 00:04:38,079 --> 00:04:40,600 and things you don't understand, this is the perfect time 76 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:42,480 to jump into. 77 00:04:42,199 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: It, Okay. 78 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 2: And I'm going to have a special announcement in the 79 00:04:45,639 --> 00:04:48,759 next week or so about an AI tool which is 80 00:04:49,759 --> 00:04:53,000 very fitting for this episode that will be used by 81 00:04:53,079 --> 00:04:57,839 students who are learning the National Electrical Code and they 82 00:04:57,879 --> 00:05:01,759 want to have the ability to ad ask AI specific 83 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:06,519 code specific questions and without having to have a separate 84 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:10,759 subscription to something like a chat, GPT or gronk or whatever. 85 00:05:11,319 --> 00:05:14,360 We're going to come up with a program that integrates 86 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,360 or allows you to be able to have an account 87 00:05:16,439 --> 00:05:19,000 as well on our trade Hog, which is our highly 88 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,560 advanced AI code model. 89 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 1: And so listen for that in the future. 90 00:05:24,319 --> 00:05:26,879 Speaker 2: It's basically just like now when you buy an enhanced 91 00:05:26,959 --> 00:05:29,040 course from US and you get a year's access to 92 00:05:29,879 --> 00:05:32,879 fast Tracks Tube, it'll be it also where you'll get 93 00:05:32,879 --> 00:05:36,639 a year's access to trade Hog, and it'll be a 94 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,879 certain area on trade Hog called smart Hog, and that 95 00:05:40,079 --> 00:05:43,759 is just for the students, and it's going to work 96 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:48,079 hand in hand with our program, our courses explanation, and 97 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:50,120 it's just going to be a little more enhanced. 98 00:05:50,399 --> 00:05:52,079 Speaker 1: But I'm not ready to announce that yet. 99 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:54,759 Speaker 2: So that wasn't the purpose here to talk about AI 100 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:57,639 and then announce what we got going on, because I 101 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:02,000 do believe that we can utilize AI positively to help 102 00:06:02,079 --> 00:06:02,839 people learn. 103 00:06:03,639 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: But let's kind of let's kind. 104 00:06:05,399 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 2: Of dial it back a little bit and go back 105 00:06:07,959 --> 00:06:11,399 to is it going to take my job? Well, the 106 00:06:11,439 --> 00:06:15,319 short answer is for the electrical trade, plumbing trade, mechanical trade. 107 00:06:15,399 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: No. Now, is it going to take some aspects of 108 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:18,399 the job. 109 00:06:18,519 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it might help out in artificial intelligence, it may 110 00:06:21,639 --> 00:06:27,120 help do plan review. It may help do some tasks 111 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:32,319 like bidding and estimating and things like that. And obviously 112 00:06:32,439 --> 00:06:35,240 the more the plans are detailed and an AI model 113 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,319 can look at it scan it in and can look 114 00:06:37,319 --> 00:06:39,639 for all these symbols and start doing all some of 115 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:44,319 the adding tasks and those type of things. Obviously, we 116 00:06:44,399 --> 00:06:47,319 have a lot of software today, like the best Bid 117 00:06:47,399 --> 00:06:49,920 Hybrid pro that's out there that's in a bidding software 118 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:54,720 that probably has some of this smart technology built into it, 119 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:57,399 and I'm sure others are doing that, and. 120 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 1: So it's going to take some of that role. 121 00:06:59,519 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 2: But I think at the end of the day, there's 122 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,959 going to have to be people that manage this because 123 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:07,720 I think as smart as AI is getting and it's becoming, 124 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:12,759 it still has to be prompted by somebody with a 125 00:07:13,079 --> 00:07:15,839 logical approach to what we're trying to achieve. And so 126 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,160 I think that AI is going to follow that model. 127 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:23,319 So if you're in that part of the trades, bidding, estimating, 128 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:31,040 product procurement, stocking, warehousing, supply houses, things like that, yeah, 129 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:34,959 I think that you know, if you're doing a career 130 00:07:34,959 --> 00:07:38,279 in that, I would say, you know your days may 131 00:07:38,279 --> 00:07:43,519 be numbered. Example, you know, to go deeper into what 132 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,279 I'm talking about, let me just let me just get 133 00:07:45,279 --> 00:07:46,839 the electrician and plumbing mechanical. 134 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:48,079 Speaker 1: Let's get that out of the way first. 135 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:52,759 Speaker 2: No, you're learning a skill that is not something that's 136 00:07:52,879 --> 00:07:54,920 and you say, well, don't ever say never, Paul, in 137 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:58,959 your lifetime, we are not going to replace the need 138 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:03,000 for the electrician. In fact, even if it did get 139 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:06,279 some element of AI involved in that mechanically, like these 140 00:08:06,319 --> 00:08:09,560 little robots, there's going to be mistakes that it's just 141 00:08:09,839 --> 00:08:12,480 something that you know they're not gonna be able. Like 142 00:08:12,519 --> 00:08:16,399 somebody puts up a lighting outlet outside and the wrong 143 00:08:16,439 --> 00:08:19,639 location and it gets sighting, gets put on and they say, oop, 144 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:21,839 that's the wrong location. That's got to be changed. You're 145 00:08:21,879 --> 00:08:23,720 not going to have a robot who's intelligent enough to 146 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,279 come back and take that out, pull it down, think 147 00:08:26,319 --> 00:08:26,959 about where. 148 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:28,079 Speaker 1: The new one goes and put back up. 149 00:08:28,439 --> 00:08:30,759 Speaker 2: No, because the skilled tradesman is going to go and say, oh, okay, 150 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:31,879 this is where you want it. I know how to 151 00:08:31,879 --> 00:08:33,320 take it down, how to put it back up, put 152 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:35,879 it back the way it needs to be. That's skill 153 00:08:36,399 --> 00:08:40,960 that takes training. And I don't think that we'll ever 154 00:08:41,039 --> 00:08:42,919 get to that point. But I you know, again, not 155 00:08:43,039 --> 00:08:47,000 in my lifetime, right, not in my lifetime do I. 156 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: Think we'll ever we'll ever get to that. 157 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:54,039 Speaker 2: Okay, Now, some of the menial tasks that are out there, 158 00:08:54,039 --> 00:08:56,200 and I don't mean this to be little. Those tasks, 159 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:00,440 so the electrician, plumber, mechanical some of the aspects. 160 00:09:00,159 --> 00:09:00,639 Speaker 1: What you do. 161 00:09:01,879 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 2: Uh maybe you know, like we'll have self driving work 162 00:09:04,519 --> 00:09:06,559 trucks that maybe you just sit in and it drives 163 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:09,360 you to the location. We'll have pick up supplies from 164 00:09:09,399 --> 00:09:13,720 supply house. Maybe you can use the robotaxi or that approach. 165 00:09:13,759 --> 00:09:16,440 A company will do that and cut the labor out 166 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:20,440 of somebody they're having to pay somebody's wages and healthcare 167 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,799 and all these benefits because it can be done automated. Sure, 168 00:09:24,399 --> 00:09:27,639 that's gonna come. I can tell you right now. In Dallas, 169 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:33,360 for example, there's there's automatic vehicles or autonomous vehicles that 170 00:09:33,399 --> 00:09:36,200 you can rent, not just the robotaxi, but another and 171 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:37,879 I can't think of a name, but there's another one 172 00:09:37,879 --> 00:09:40,480 that'll come and pick you up and take you somewhere 173 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:44,919 in the city for an a nominal fee. That's here, 174 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:47,639 and that's gonna that's gonna get worse. I mean, you've 175 00:09:47,639 --> 00:09:50,120 got the Teslas that now you can basically get in 176 00:09:50,159 --> 00:09:51,159 and it drives itself. 177 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,399 Speaker 1: So I mean that's coming. We already know that. So 178 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:54,639 some of those roles like the. 179 00:09:54,639 --> 00:09:58,159 Speaker 2: Uber drivers and taxi drivers and all that your days 180 00:09:58,159 --> 00:10:01,720 are numbered, they really make your money. Why you can, 181 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:05,240 because you're gonna have things like Uber go the way 182 00:10:05,279 --> 00:10:07,639 of they're gonna say, wait a minute, why do I 183 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:11,200 pay people to do this when we can get these robotaxis. 184 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: We can just spend the money in that. 185 00:10:12,799 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 2: We not have to pay workers comp, we don't have 186 00:10:16,519 --> 00:10:19,120 to pay health insurance, we don't have none of that. 187 00:10:20,399 --> 00:10:21,279 Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying. 188 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,879 Speaker 2: Or they're going to reduce it down to a fleet 189 00:10:24,919 --> 00:10:27,279 that maybe just like the ones that go two hours 190 00:10:27,279 --> 00:10:29,759 from somewhere to an airport, although there's really no need 191 00:10:29,799 --> 00:10:33,039 because the robotaxis are fully driving. Cars can do that now, 192 00:10:33,759 --> 00:10:36,360 and it's only going to expand, and people are gonna 193 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:40,679 be hiring fleets of these cause it's cheaper. Another example, 194 00:10:40,919 --> 00:10:43,440 I saw the thing where the robots that are out. 195 00:10:43,759 --> 00:10:45,320 I don't know about the Tesla one, but I saw 196 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:47,080 another one that was just launched. 197 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: The other day. 198 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:51,639 Speaker 2: It's kind of spooky looking, dude, but it's twenty grand. 199 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,039 Speaker 1: It's twenty grand. Think about it. 200 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 2: Think about me paying an employee to simply carry boxes 201 00:10:59,639 --> 00:11:04,080 in ups, storerooms or whatever from place to place when 202 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:06,440 I can have a robot go pick up that box 203 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:09,440 and move it from place to place. And you're saying 204 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:13,480 it can't happen, it's already happening. Think about it. I 205 00:11:13,519 --> 00:11:16,639 can hire fifty of them dudes at twenty thousand a 206 00:11:16,639 --> 00:11:18,440 pop and probably get a deal if I buy a 207 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:21,679 bunch of them, and then I get rid of labor, 208 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:27,360 overhead workers, comp benefits. They can work seven to twenty 209 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,799 four to seven. You give what I'm saying, I don't have. 210 00:11:29,759 --> 00:11:31,639 Speaker 1: To worry about giving them breaks on weekends. 211 00:11:31,759 --> 00:11:33,879 Speaker 2: If you don't think the companies are going to do that, 212 00:11:34,639 --> 00:11:40,039 you're crazy, because they are gets rid of HR issues. 213 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:44,879 Nobody argues about promotions, nobody argues about moving up in there. 214 00:11:45,919 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 1: They don't bitch, it's gonna happen. 215 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 2: We already have around the country people that can go 216 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:55,399 into fast food restaurants put your own order into a touchscreen, 217 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:59,000 and now they don't have to have thirty employees there. 218 00:12:00,039 --> 00:12:02,159 They can have just a couple people cooking in the 219 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,039 back and somebody work in the front counter. 220 00:12:04,159 --> 00:12:06,519 Speaker 1: One person. All they're doing is moving orders. 221 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 2: From the shelf where the cook puts it on the 222 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:11,639 shelf in a bag over to the counter and it 223 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:13,240 calls out the number and you co pick it up 224 00:12:13,279 --> 00:12:16,879 and you leave. Well, that eliminates a lot of employees. 225 00:12:16,919 --> 00:12:19,120 And if I own the McDonald's around it, that's what 226 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:22,720 I want. And you say, well, nothing should replace the 227 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:27,759 human interaction. Bullshit, folks, it's happening. It's gonna happen. You 228 00:12:27,759 --> 00:12:31,600 can disagree with it all you want. It's happening in 229 00:12:31,639 --> 00:12:35,000 any way that businesses, whether you agree with it or not. 230 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:39,080 If there's any way that a business can remove the 231 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:45,879 troublesome element of human resource, they're gonna do it. What 232 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,000 other reason do you think they're creating these robots for 233 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:53,759 just to do it? No, come on, we have to 234 00:12:53,799 --> 00:12:55,600 use some comment. It doesn't mean you have to agree, 235 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,879 and you can have your own opinion. But think about it. 236 00:12:59,639 --> 00:13:03,320 I owned a company. Let's even break it down even 237 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:08,200 more to a ups drivers, empedex drivers, let's break it 238 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:12,120 down even more so. If I create these vans, I 239 00:13:12,159 --> 00:13:15,039 don't need big ones anymore because usually we have the 240 00:13:15,039 --> 00:13:18,279 bigger vans, right, so we have much bigger carry more. 241 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:20,639 You know, one driver's got so many packages they have 242 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,799 to deliver in a day. You could actually cut that 243 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:27,960 down to much smaller vans, put more fleets out there 244 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:32,799 because you remove the labor. Have these little robots that 245 00:13:32,919 --> 00:13:35,200 the car drives it there. The robot just sits there 246 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:38,679 on the side of the truck. Once you get there, 247 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:42,440 it drops it down, it walks over, scans it in 248 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:46,120 its vision, scans the package it's loaded a certain way, 249 00:13:46,159 --> 00:13:48,639 It picks it, it walks up to your house, it 250 00:13:48,759 --> 00:13:51,120 drops it on your porch, and it goes back. If 251 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:54,600 you say, well, that will never happen, dude, you haven't 252 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:58,159 been watching the videos of these robots. 253 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:02,559 Speaker 1: You haven't been watching it. I have. They already can 254 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,879 do these types of tasks, climb over things, climb up things, 255 00:14:05,919 --> 00:14:10,039 go up steps, carry boxes. They have gyro sensors in 256 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,159 there that keep their balance. I knew this was coming 257 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:15,919 all the way back when I saw the segues and 258 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,840 the ability for their gyro systems to keep them upright. 259 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:20,879 Speaker 2: That is a matter of time before they made it 260 00:14:20,919 --> 00:14:24,519 into something. And this isn't this isn't. 261 00:14:24,399 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: Sci fi stuff. 262 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:28,879 Speaker 2: And so if you don't think that the delivery and 263 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:32,559 shipping companies will not get to the point where they 264 00:14:32,559 --> 00:14:35,200 don't have to pay these rages, they don't have to 265 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,519 worry about unions. They don't have to worry about people 266 00:14:38,559 --> 00:14:41,879 fighting for pay raises. If you don't think they'll do it, 267 00:14:42,799 --> 00:14:45,159 you'll give them a robot that will actually do that. 268 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,639 You give somebody out there that creates a van with 269 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:52,240 a built in robot that can scan and pick up 270 00:14:52,279 --> 00:14:56,039 a package because of a barcode system or NFC system 271 00:14:56,200 --> 00:15:00,399 or whatnot. Dude, I've seen these cars, Tesla car pull 272 00:15:00,519 --> 00:15:05,279 right into parking spaces. They could pull right into your driveway. 273 00:15:05,879 --> 00:15:07,879 So at the end of the day, now they got 274 00:15:07,879 --> 00:15:11,960 what they got, semi trucks that drive and they say, well, 275 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:13,159 that's scary to be on the road. 276 00:15:14,559 --> 00:15:15,039 Speaker 1: I get it. 277 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:18,679 Speaker 2: But they're not going away. They're still here and they're coming. 278 00:15:19,559 --> 00:15:22,559 Nobody's moving back. I mean, look at Elon, he just 279 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:25,159 got you know, what is it, one trillion dollars each, 280 00:15:25,279 --> 00:15:29,399 first ever CEO to possibly go into a salary of 281 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:34,639 over a trillion dollars. He deserves it. Look what he's developed. Hey, 282 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,080 I'm a believer. When you earn it's yours. No, I 283 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:39,240 don't believe in this equality shit where you got to 284 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,720 give it and distribute it to the wealth equal league bullshit. 285 00:15:41,879 --> 00:15:44,519 You earn it, you own it. I don't believe in 286 00:15:44,519 --> 00:15:46,519 that crap, that socialist crap. They can keep that in 287 00:15:46,519 --> 00:15:50,440 New York. But at the end of the day, it's coming. 288 00:15:52,399 --> 00:15:56,480 But the good thing about being skilled is that they're 289 00:15:56,600 --> 00:16:00,360 not gonna take away the skill. They're gonna take away 290 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:05,360 the menial jobs package delivery, working in fast food change 291 00:16:05,399 --> 00:16:08,159 because if I own a fast food change chain, I 292 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,080 want less employees, I want less headaches. 293 00:16:12,559 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: I'd rather pay a. 294 00:16:14,279 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 2: Small group of people more than a bunch of people 295 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:25,240 minimum wage personally and in habits as autonomous as possible. 296 00:16:25,879 --> 00:16:27,720 Now you can disagree, but it's coming. 297 00:16:29,279 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: I'm no profit here. It's coming. And in other countries 298 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:38,720 they're using it way more than we are. So when 299 00:16:38,759 --> 00:16:39,919 you think about what you. 300 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 2: Want to do, and you're a young person and you're 301 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:45,960 thinking about, Okay, I want to make fast food a career, 302 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:50,600 you know, don't be struggling in your thirties and forties 303 00:16:50,639 --> 00:16:52,240 trying to find something to do. 304 00:16:53,639 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: You need to make a decision early, you know. 305 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,919 Speaker 2: And occasionally, back in the day, I used to speak 306 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:01,519 at vocational schools. 307 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: I don't really do that anymore. 308 00:17:03,279 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 2: I mean I don't get requests for it because I 309 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:10,039 think it stopped once I went to Texas is talking 310 00:17:10,039 --> 00:17:14,400 to the young people about the future. You know, everybody 311 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:17,759 was pushed to go to school. Everybody was pushed to 312 00:17:17,799 --> 00:17:20,839 go to college. And in college, you know they're pushing 313 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:24,599 to get certain degrees that are going to be easily replaced. Accounting, 314 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,440 I don't do anything with my accounting anymore. My quick 315 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,960 books pro is all automated. It pays the payroll, it 316 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:34,480 does everything I pay with everything with the credit card. 317 00:17:34,559 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 1: It automatically goes into my payroll. 318 00:17:36,759 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 2: At the end, I just printed out push one button 319 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:45,880 and I can follow my taxes. Okay, it's so sophisticated 320 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:50,839 now that you can be going to school to get 321 00:17:50,839 --> 00:17:54,039 a degree in something that will be totally unable to 322 00:17:54,319 --> 00:17:59,240 use five to ten years from now. It's a wasted degree. 323 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,240 I'm not saying all degrees are wasted. I mean you're 324 00:18:02,279 --> 00:18:04,960 still gonna need your doctors. Although you know you've seen 325 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:11,519 Star Trek, Okay, you never know the future. You know technology, 326 00:18:11,519 --> 00:18:13,079 but at the end of the day, you're still gonna 327 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:15,720 have somebody that needs to look at it and evaluate, 328 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:19,519 and so there are certain things you're gonna need. I mean, 329 00:18:19,559 --> 00:18:21,039 I look for at the future, what do you need 330 00:18:21,079 --> 00:18:23,839 a lawyer for You'll have a robot lawyer there who 331 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:28,079 has every bit of the law book in its database. 332 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:34,200 And it's so intelligent, right, It's so intelligent that it 333 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:41,720 will be able to create plausible arguments and discussions. 334 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:42,559 Speaker 1: It's just coming. 335 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 2: So no profession, except for my opinion, is protected except 336 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:54,880 for the trades. Yeah, that's again not gonna say every right, 337 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:59,359 But when it comes to the trades, there's that element 338 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:03,119 of knowledge that you have to have and physical ability 339 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:06,920 that you have to have. Put those together, and that's 340 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:09,839 what you have in order to bring to the industry, 341 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:13,720 and we're going to need it. There's too many thought 342 00:19:13,759 --> 00:19:17,480 processes for wiring a building. There's too much that you 343 00:19:17,519 --> 00:19:21,759 can get AI or these robots to do menial tasks 344 00:19:21,799 --> 00:19:24,880 on a job site, maybe carry stuff, carry pipe, whatever. 345 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:26,960 But at the end of the day, you're not going 346 00:19:27,039 --> 00:19:30,359 to get rid of your skill. This is why I 347 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:32,480 tell people, and Mike Row has been saying this for years. 348 00:19:32,519 --> 00:19:34,480 I've been saying it if you follow my podcast for 349 00:19:34,599 --> 00:19:37,519 well over ten years. The best thing that you can 350 00:19:37,559 --> 00:19:40,480 do is get a trade. You want to use it 351 00:19:40,599 --> 00:19:45,359 or not get it. You go to school, you want 352 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:47,079 to go to a degree to get an art degree 353 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:47,680 or whatnot. 354 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 1: At some point. 355 00:19:50,279 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 2: Even teachers are going to be replaced. So I'm just saying, look, 356 00:19:56,039 --> 00:20:02,319 I can only speak for the trade. Okay, anybody out 357 00:20:02,319 --> 00:20:05,240 there who's who's young and getting into this and thinking, 358 00:20:05,279 --> 00:20:08,319 do I want to become an electrician, plumber, mechanical, if 359 00:20:08,319 --> 00:20:11,039 I want to become a welder. Shit, theyk got machines 360 00:20:11,079 --> 00:20:12,599 at all, weld now for you. But there's going to 361 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,799 be unique situations where you just can't use a machine. 362 00:20:19,319 --> 00:20:22,759 But when it comes to the trade, sky's the limit. 363 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,160 You're not gonna send a robot into somebody's house to 364 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:30,160 troubleshoot something. You say, well, it will be one day, 365 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:36,400 not in your lifespan. No, I don't buy it. Obviously, 366 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:40,400 to help tasks and reduce the labor rate menial things again, 367 00:20:40,519 --> 00:20:42,880 fast food delivery point a shit do you won't even 368 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:46,759 need somebody to work the counter because all they have 369 00:20:46,839 --> 00:20:48,880 to do is put the food in a certain trade 370 00:20:49,599 --> 00:20:51,839 arm will come down and grab it, carry it over 371 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:57,240 and put it on the counter and you know, doable now. 372 00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,799 I mean I think in Japan they have some similar things. 373 00:21:00,079 --> 00:21:04,000 I mean, you know, fast food's never been a career anyway. 374 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:07,079 But you see with the minimum wage going crazy in 375 00:21:07,079 --> 00:21:09,920 places like California that restaurants can't even stay in business 376 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:11,240 because of having to pay mentum wage. 377 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 1: Because people have thought that fast food is a career. 378 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:16,960 That is not a career. 379 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 2: Now, I'm not talking about a manager, I'm not talking 380 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,279 about an owner, but I'm talking about a young person 381 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,920 who's going in saying what do I do. If you 382 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,240 want to do it part time while you're working through school, 383 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,079 or you're trying to get a trade and you're going 384 00:21:31,079 --> 00:21:32,519 to night school or whatever, that's fine. 385 00:21:32,519 --> 00:21:35,839 Speaker 1: You got to make a living. But to count it 386 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,119 as a career, no. 387 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 2: Now, I'm not buying it, you know, I'm just not 388 00:21:43,039 --> 00:21:47,279 buying it. And eventually you're going to be obsolete, You're 389 00:21:47,279 --> 00:21:50,400 gonna be unnecessary. Now, I can't tell you when that's 390 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,480 gonna happen, five years from now, ten years from now, 391 00:21:53,759 --> 00:21:55,480 but I can tell you one of the big things 392 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:59,680 that shows up all the time on every news channel 393 00:22:00,519 --> 00:22:06,680 is are we worried about AI taking over? And for 394 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:11,559 many of you today, I would be worried. I would 395 00:22:11,559 --> 00:22:15,720 be very worried. Now, if you're already in your late forties, 396 00:22:15,759 --> 00:22:19,759 your fifties, and you know early you're close to retirement. Anyway, 397 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,920 I think you've got good ten to fifteen years. That's 398 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:29,079 just my opinion. And I think young folks learn a 399 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:35,119 trade so that you can have longevity and the sky 400 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,559 is the limit, whether you want to be your own boss, 401 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,200 whether you want to work for somebody. Let me give 402 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:43,519 you another example example. And this is I kind of 403 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:45,200 you know, I hate to preach to people, but I 404 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,680 preach to young people and I tell him trade. 405 00:22:48,759 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 1: Let me give you another trade. Let me give you 406 00:22:50,039 --> 00:22:52,000 example locksmith. 407 00:22:53,039 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 2: So people say being a locksmith is a declining trade. 408 00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 1: It's trade. 409 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 2: By the way, they say it's a declining trade because 410 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:06,559 everything's going electronic now. Most of these electronics still have 411 00:23:06,599 --> 00:23:10,000 a key override. Most of businesses still have a key entry. 412 00:23:11,039 --> 00:23:14,319 Most of the vehicles today use these smart fobs that 413 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:18,519 have to be reprogrammed. Keys still need to be made, 414 00:23:19,039 --> 00:23:22,839 locks still need to be picked. It's a trade. It's 415 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:27,559 not going to be replaced by AI. It's a trade. 416 00:23:27,799 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 1: Okay. Now here's the difference. 417 00:23:30,519 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 2: In Virginia, you don't even have to All you gotta 418 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,880 do is be eighteen years old, pass a background check, 419 00:23:37,759 --> 00:23:41,480 take eighteen hours of education and you can become a 420 00:23:41,519 --> 00:23:46,400 locksmith and you could hang your shingle out there and 421 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,480 learn as you go, and you know you might. If 422 00:23:48,519 --> 00:23:50,279 you go to somebody and you can't get something open, 423 00:23:50,319 --> 00:23:52,160 then what's the worst you go, I'm sorry, I can't 424 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,960 get it open. I'm not gonna charge you. Yeah, but 425 00:23:55,000 --> 00:24:00,240 you're learning Texas, for example, to be a locksmith, it's 426 00:24:00,279 --> 00:24:03,200 not easy. So you have to look at different states 427 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:07,079 and take your opportunities. If you're in Virginia, for example, 428 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,759 it's simple. You do those little things two days. You 429 00:24:10,799 --> 00:24:12,440 take two days, you take a two day course, you 430 00:24:13,039 --> 00:24:16,960 get your hours, you send in your fingerprints, you get certified, 431 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,279 You get licensed as a locksmith, whether you don't know 432 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,559 one thing about it, although you'll learn it while you train. 433 00:24:22,759 --> 00:24:27,039 But here's the thing. Anybody can do it in Texas. 434 00:24:27,079 --> 00:24:32,119 You can't in Texas. You gotta be work for somebody 435 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:36,319 for four freaking years for somebody. So if you want 436 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,640 to be a locksmith and you're making money doing something else, 437 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:39,960 and you're thinking, well, I want to be a locksmith. 438 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,319 I'm gonna make money, No, you got to either give 439 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,359 up the job you're doing, which may be the job 440 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,720 that's paying your family in order to work for somebody 441 00:24:47,759 --> 00:24:50,839 for probably minimum wage till you get your four years. 442 00:24:51,039 --> 00:24:52,920 Then you can go and apply to be a locksmith 443 00:24:53,519 --> 00:24:57,000 in Virginia. This is different in different different states. In Virginia, 444 00:24:57,079 --> 00:25:02,480 it's not the case. You simply go DCJS, you fill 445 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:07,000 out the application and you get your fingerprints done. You 446 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,839 don't have any background issues, no felonies or whatnot. You 447 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,079 get your background done, everything done, get your eighteen hours 448 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,599 and submit it and guess what, You're a licensed locksmith 449 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,440 and you can start marketing your business. Same with the 450 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,000 PI if you have the hour. Now you have to 451 00:25:24,039 --> 00:25:25,680 have a certain number of hours to be a PI. 452 00:25:25,799 --> 00:25:28,880 You have to have the training courses, but that's just courses. 453 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:30,640 You don't have to work for somebody. 454 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 1: For years. 455 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,799 Speaker 2: I know, I was a PI in Virginia. People say, 456 00:25:33,799 --> 00:25:35,359 how the world did you become a PI. This was 457 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,400 back when I was also an NEC consultant and I 458 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,920 worked for Alexandria Virginia. And on the side, I started 459 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,880 a PI business in order to primarily help another guy 460 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,359 who did not have the hours, did not have the time, 461 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,720 and again I worked for me this POLY because I worked, 462 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,240 we worked for the Fire Department. I had already qualified, 463 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,839 I had the number of hours in experience, so all 464 00:25:53,839 --> 00:25:55,279 I had to do was take and I had already 465 00:25:55,319 --> 00:25:59,200 taken a course probably five years earlier, just for fun, 466 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,880 but it got me the hours I needed, so I qualified, 467 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,400 And so I started this business primarily to help the 468 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:10,200 other guy get his experience okay, and do the training 469 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,279 so that he could get his license and then take 470 00:26:12,319 --> 00:26:12,920 over the firm. 471 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 1: And then I just left. I was only there for 472 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:15,319 a couple of years. 473 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 2: Only did it for a couple of years, and I 474 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:22,319 primarily only focused on slip and fall cases with electrical 475 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,160 or building codes whatnot. That lawyers would reach out and 476 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,920 I would go and do an analysis of the slip 477 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,480 and fall location and see if it was code compliant, 478 00:26:30,519 --> 00:26:33,279 whether the handrails were right, steps were right, rise was 479 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:38,279 right enough, foot candles illumination, whether exit signs were properly whatever, 480 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,559 give them a plausible fault that they could bring it 481 00:26:41,599 --> 00:26:45,440 to a case and hopefully settle for a large amount 482 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:45,839 of money. 483 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 1: Nobody wants to go to trial. They like to settle, So. 484 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,839 Speaker 2: If you give them enough information, you can settle and 485 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,319 get a number for your client that you really wanted 486 00:26:55,279 --> 00:26:56,559 that's the dirty secret. 487 00:26:56,559 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 1: It is what it is. Now. 488 00:26:57,519 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 2: Sometimes it do go to trial, but I mean every 489 00:27:00,079 --> 00:27:03,400 or the majority of them end in a settlement because 490 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,160 it costs more to go to court than it does 491 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:09,000 to just settle. So at the end of the day, 492 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,480 in different state that you're in, it doesn't matter whether 493 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:17,039 you want to be electrician, plumber, mechanical guy. It doesn't 494 00:27:17,079 --> 00:27:22,240 matter a welder, locksmith, whenever you want. Look for trades. 495 00:27:22,759 --> 00:27:23,799 Look for things that I. 496 00:27:23,799 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: Consider locksmith trade. 497 00:27:26,279 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 2: Look for things that are going to be skilled driven 498 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,839 that are not easily replaced by AI, because that's where 499 00:27:34,839 --> 00:27:37,240 it's going. Whether you like it or not. You can 500 00:27:37,279 --> 00:27:41,680 agree to disagree, it is where it's going. And so 501 00:27:42,039 --> 00:27:44,759 my advice to young folks is don't if you're going 502 00:27:44,799 --> 00:27:48,599 to college, don't get those fluffy ass degrees that are 503 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,839 going to be so easily replaced in the future or 504 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,720 everybody's doing it and you cannot find a freaking job. 505 00:27:56,359 --> 00:28:03,319 I got tons of friends who became engineers, and they 506 00:28:03,319 --> 00:28:05,440 can't even find a job that they're doing something that's 507 00:28:05,519 --> 00:28:07,839 not even involved in the in the in the electrical 508 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:08,799 or engineering trade. 509 00:28:09,279 --> 00:28:11,279 Speaker 1: Because they got to pay the bills. They got a 510 00:28:11,319 --> 00:28:12,160 school debt. 511 00:28:12,519 --> 00:28:12,559 Speaker 3: No. 512 00:28:12,759 --> 00:28:15,400 Speaker 2: And also, folks, don't everybody out there says, well, I 513 00:28:15,559 --> 00:28:18,720 just go to school and let the government pay my debt. No, 514 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,400 that's that's a pussy approach. That is not That's not 515 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,519 how it should work. Okay, if you generate debt, you 516 00:28:25,559 --> 00:28:27,640 should pay your debt. I don't believe in handouts. I 517 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:31,640 don't believe in government assistants. Sorry, I just don't say 518 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,319 what you want, negative, stop following me whatever. 519 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:34,880 Speaker 1: I don't. 520 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,799 Speaker 2: I believe that everybody can get out and work and 521 00:28:38,839 --> 00:28:41,920 do something, be creative. 522 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,079 Speaker 1: Okay, stop milking everything off the government. 523 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 2: That's why we're in trillions of dollars a debt because 524 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:52,720 we create all these programs that can't be supported and 525 00:28:52,759 --> 00:28:53,799 we're just in debt. 526 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 1: So anyway, enough of that. 527 00:28:56,839 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 2: But again, my advice to young folks, get a job 528 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,440 that is focused on your skill. There's nothing better than 529 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,519 the electrical trade. You have many opportunities where it's commercial, 530 00:29:08,559 --> 00:29:12,920 residential service work, electronics like security, all these other types 531 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,599 of things that you can do. You have opportunity, and 532 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:20,759 you're not going to be replaced with AI. That's my message. Okay, 533 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,079 all right, folks, hopefully I answered that question for that 534 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,079 now let's move into the other thing. 535 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: I just want to shout out to NFPA. 536 00:29:27,039 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 2: I know they won't listen to anything I do, and 537 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,240 they certainly won't listen this far into a broadcast. Shame 538 00:29:32,319 --> 00:29:38,599 on you, NFPA for sending these notices. When you sign up, 539 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,880 you redid it so that they have to sign up 540 00:29:41,119 --> 00:29:44,359 and check something. When you use link or the free 541 00:29:44,359 --> 00:29:49,160 access online, it does not allow educators to use the content. 542 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,480 In order to teach people the NEC, we have to 543 00:29:52,519 --> 00:29:57,880 paraphrase it. Paraphrasing does not help the student learn the 544 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,839 NEC for an exam prep. If you want to create 545 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,599 things like code changes and whatnot, paraphrasing is fine, but 546 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:08,000 it does not help people because people write code exams 547 00:30:08,359 --> 00:30:11,119 or writing it and even these exams that are being 548 00:30:11,119 --> 00:30:14,559 written are based on verbatim words from the code, so 549 00:30:14,599 --> 00:30:17,000 they should be forced to have to paraphrase THEIRS. 550 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 1: It's not right. It's a problem, NFPA. 551 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,599 Speaker 2: If you're an educator and you're teaching other people, you 552 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,599 should be able to use link. You should be able 553 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:31,400 to use the NFPA NPA seventy document as well as 554 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:37,000 other documents for that. That's called transformational information. It's protected 555 00:30:37,079 --> 00:30:41,480 under the Fair Use Act. You're not copying, you're not reselling, 556 00:30:41,839 --> 00:30:47,319 you're using utilizing the material for commentary and educational purposes, 557 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,279 regardless of whether you're getting paid for it. 558 00:30:49,279 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 1: It's irrelevant. 559 00:30:51,119 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 2: Every textbook that used in a university is basically sharing 560 00:30:56,039 --> 00:31:02,079 verb datim the information from that textbook verbatim, same Fair 561 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:08,720 Use Act, no different. The problem is NFPA create this 562 00:31:08,839 --> 00:31:12,960 situation where they're being bullies. I see CS the same way. 563 00:31:13,039 --> 00:31:15,400 They're all the same way. They want to act like 564 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:20,039 that as their copyrighted material. It is not, and I 565 00:31:20,039 --> 00:31:23,119 think it's a problem because they print it and they 566 00:31:23,279 --> 00:31:27,559 sell it for profit. Don't think they're just a nonprofit, okay. 567 00:31:27,759 --> 00:31:30,400 The nonprofit is a fancy way of saying everybody that's 568 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:31,319 employed gets paid. 569 00:31:31,599 --> 00:31:34,359 Speaker 1: It's just you end up with zero. It's a fancy 570 00:31:34,359 --> 00:31:35,960 word for nonprofit. Okay. 571 00:31:36,799 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 2: So at the end of the day, Jim Pauley gets 572 00:31:39,519 --> 00:31:42,680 his salary, all these others get their salary. 573 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 1: Okay. So the point of the matter is. 574 00:31:48,839 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 2: The information that's out there is for use and educational 575 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,039 purposes only. You should not be bullied by these disclaimers 576 00:31:55,079 --> 00:31:57,519 that say you can't use it for educational purposes. 577 00:31:58,480 --> 00:31:59,079 Speaker 1: Shame on them. 578 00:31:59,079 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 2: You got to remember the National Electrical Code is developed 579 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:05,039 by you, the general public, by us that sit on 580 00:32:05,119 --> 00:32:10,000 code panels. NFPA cannot vote, n FPA cannot chime in 581 00:32:10,039 --> 00:32:14,599 on material other than helping give direction during meetings. They 582 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,400 cannot have any input on the development of the EC. 583 00:32:17,599 --> 00:32:20,359 Yet they can publish it, print it, and sell it 584 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,759 under the guys that they're going to do good work, 585 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,039 that they're going to help make things safer. And I 586 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:30,240 don't disagree with that. What I disagree with is they 587 00:32:30,319 --> 00:32:34,440 treat it like it's their material. And yes, they force 588 00:32:34,559 --> 00:32:36,799 all of us on code panel to sign a document 589 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,039 acknowledging that the work we do becomes theirs. 590 00:32:39,119 --> 00:32:41,079 Speaker 1: I get it, I get it. 591 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 2: But to tell educators or to have something pop up 592 00:32:45,799 --> 00:32:47,680 that you know that we have to agree to that 593 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,359 that I can't use it in a in a YouTube video, 594 00:32:50,599 --> 00:32:52,680 or I can't use it in in a course or 595 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:56,400 something because they fear you into this being a copyright issue. 596 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,799 Speaker 1: It's fair use. It's fair use. 597 00:33:02,599 --> 00:33:05,039 Speaker 2: They didn't even create it, they didn't even write it. 598 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,200 Now that's different. In a commentary. They want to sell 599 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:15,079 a handbook, that's fine, that's commentary but not the document, 600 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,640 and I am strongly against it. They know my position, 601 00:33:18,799 --> 00:33:21,759 but they don't care, right, they don't care what my 602 00:33:21,799 --> 00:33:25,720 position is. So anyway, and I'm probably the only educator 603 00:33:26,279 --> 00:33:28,440 out there who will speak up because most of them 604 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,960 want to keep this fluffy fluffy relationship with NFPA, and 605 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,039 I don't give a shit. I'm not friends with any 606 00:33:35,039 --> 00:33:37,240 of them. So at the end of the day, it 607 00:33:37,319 --> 00:33:39,480 is what it is. Just you know, you call a 608 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,200 spade a spade, it is what it is. I have 609 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,559 a hard enough time convincing people that it's a fair 610 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:49,519 process to have NFPA do this and make it seem 611 00:33:49,559 --> 00:33:52,240 even more like a money grab who do you think it. 612 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:57,079 NFPA's biggest promoters are educators. I tell people all the 613 00:33:57,119 --> 00:34:00,759 time to buy link I promoted all the time in 614 00:34:00,799 --> 00:34:03,119 all my videos. I tell people buy link by link 615 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,319 by link. I tell people to get codebooks. I tell 616 00:34:06,359 --> 00:34:08,599 them to get them from an FPA. Don't buy them 617 00:34:08,639 --> 00:34:10,519 from anywhere else, buy from it. But yet they're going 618 00:34:10,599 --> 00:34:19,119 to penalize us for doing that, educators for doing that. Anyway, 619 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,360 I have a big problem with it, uh and I'm 620 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,480 going to continue to use it. And they know where 621 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,519 I'm at. Their lawyers know where I'm at. They can 622 00:34:25,519 --> 00:34:28,760 come get me. I'm okay with that, not a problem 623 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:29,000 with it. 624 00:34:30,039 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 1: Uh. 625 00:34:30,679 --> 00:34:33,519 Speaker 2: Lastly, talking about our thermal imaging course, I have a 626 00:34:33,559 --> 00:34:38,400 few of the amp Bank H one eight's available. Y'all 627 00:34:38,519 --> 00:34:40,840 know that on our website we have a thermal imaging course. 628 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,480 It's a black and white. It's not imaged based. It's 629 00:34:44,559 --> 00:34:48,199 black and white. It's lessonal and I lessenal or lesson driven, 630 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,320 I should say, whereas it's basically wanting you to put 631 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:55,400 the thermal imaging camera in your hand and actually use 632 00:34:55,559 --> 00:34:58,519 real things like your panel and other things, rather than 633 00:34:58,559 --> 00:35:01,559 try to push you through a bunch of images. So 634 00:35:01,599 --> 00:35:05,079 it's explained in a way that makes it you know, 635 00:35:05,079 --> 00:35:07,679 we're trying to paint a mental picture. But the hope 636 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,880 is that you have a thermal imaging camera in your 637 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:11,960 hand why you go through the course. So I would 638 00:35:12,039 --> 00:35:14,760 never recommend the course without having a thermal imaging camera. 639 00:35:15,599 --> 00:35:18,119 For those that listen to me on here, if you 640 00:35:18,199 --> 00:35:20,320 buy one of our thermal imaging cameras or H one 641 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,239 twenty eight's that'll put out by AMP Bank, we're going 642 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,880 to sell them below MSRP they're on our website, fasttracksystem 643 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,239 dot com. If you go to the main page, it's 644 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,199 a black and white page. You go to the bottom, 645 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:31,199 you'll see a link for it. 646 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,599 Speaker 1: If you do that and you order one of these. 647 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,880 Speaker 2: Cameras and it comes in within a day or two, 648 00:35:36,159 --> 00:35:38,719 you will get for a limited time and I can't 649 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:42,559 tell you expiration on this for limited time, we will 650 00:35:42,559 --> 00:35:45,280 send you an email back with a discount code. Whereas 651 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:49,079 you can order the course for fifty percent off. Okay, 652 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,320 So that way you have something to work with with 653 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:56,480 your thermal camera. Now, can you buy our course without 654 00:35:56,519 --> 00:35:59,039 buying a thermal camera. Absolutely, if you've got your own 655 00:35:59,079 --> 00:36:03,199 maybe a Flear or or was it Flear and Fluke 656 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,480 and there's other brands, go for it. You just won't 657 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,960 get the fifty percent off because that's if you buy 658 00:36:09,079 --> 00:36:12,159 our camera on our website. Okay, So I mean course 659 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,280 is still great, it's still gonna be beneficial to you. 660 00:36:15,199 --> 00:36:17,360 But obviously we're promoting our camera, the one that we've 661 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:23,519 tested and we like for use with resident for residential, commercial, industrial, electricians, 662 00:36:23,599 --> 00:36:27,079 and so we have one that we promote and then 663 00:36:27,199 --> 00:36:28,840 you don't have to have it if you already. 664 00:36:28,599 --> 00:36:30,199 Speaker 1: Got one still can use the course. 665 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 2: The other thing about our course is it's perpetual means 666 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:34,719 it's constantly being added to. 667 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:35,519 Speaker 1: It's not done. 668 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 2: We keep adding adding, We take recommendations from people, students, 669 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,440 things that you want us to put in there. We 670 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,639 will keep adding it and keep making it better. So 671 00:36:45,679 --> 00:36:48,400 it's not like you might log in you see nineteen units. 672 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,159 You might log into your course and you're using it 673 00:36:52,199 --> 00:36:54,599 to go back later to look at the chapter to say, 674 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,880 let me reread this chat. You may notice that there's 675 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,559 twenty two units in there now because we will keep 676 00:36:59,599 --> 00:37:02,000 adding as we want to add that type of thing. 677 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:07,000 So they're available over in our website fasttrackssystem dot com. 678 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,280 That's t R a X not t R A c K, 679 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,679 by the way. Check it out and we look forward 680 00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,159 to having you get in that course. And of course, 681 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,599 like always in our courses, we have what's called fast 682 00:37:18,599 --> 00:37:21,360 Tracks Interact and that is a feature while you're in 683 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,440 the course. You got to be in your course and 684 00:37:23,519 --> 00:37:25,400 the bottom right of the screen is a little blue 685 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,039 cloud looks like a chat cloud. 686 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 1: You click on that and. 687 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:34,400 Speaker 2: Then you can post questions, connect snapshots, upload images, cutting 688 00:37:34,519 --> 00:37:37,800 paste any question you want there and we will log 689 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,119 in and we'll answer it that type of thing. Right, 690 00:37:40,159 --> 00:37:42,400 So it's a unique feature to our programs, all right, 691 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,360 So check it out, go to our website fastracksystem dot com. 692 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,199 Hope you enjoyed this podcast episode, hope you learned something, 693 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,119 and so until next time, stay safe, God blessed, and 694 00:37:52,159 --> 00:37:54,440 we will catch you on an upcoming episode of Let's 695 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:55,480 Ask Paul Peace. 696 00:38:00,639 --> 00:38:23,440 Speaker 3: Basketballs nothing, maskeal nothing,