WEBVTT

1
00:00:03.520 --> 00:00:07.559
<v Speaker 1>Hi. I'm Lisa from Cedar Rapids, Iowa, and I play

2
00:00:07.759 --> 00:00:09.400
<v Speaker 1>at Airport National Golf Course.

3
00:00:09.599 --> 00:00:10.720
<v Speaker 2>Welcome to golf Smiter.

4
00:00:11.160 --> 00:00:14.599
<v Speaker 1>Hi. This is Mark Mason from Wahawa, South Carolina. I

5
00:00:14.720 --> 00:00:17.920
<v Speaker 1>played my golf at o'conny Country Club and this is

6
00:00:18.000 --> 00:00:20.879
<v Speaker 1>Golf Smarter Episode one twenty two.

7
00:00:21.440 --> 00:00:24.079
<v Speaker 2>Here's the extra little bit of bonus to those of

8
00:00:24.160 --> 00:00:27.760
<v Speaker 2>us that are athletes. Grateful athletes perform better, so we're

9
00:00:27.800 --> 00:00:31.519
<v Speaker 2>actually seeing gratitude as a performance enhandser that gets us

10
00:00:31.559 --> 00:00:35.600
<v Speaker 2>closer to success. So if you have two golfers who

11
00:00:35.640 --> 00:00:38.520
<v Speaker 2>are similar in levels of ability, but one of them

12
00:00:38.560 --> 00:00:41.439
<v Speaker 2>walks through last with a lens of gratitude and says,

13
00:00:41.560 --> 00:00:44.079
<v Speaker 2>isn't it wonderful that I get to play on this course?

14
00:00:44.479 --> 00:00:46.880
<v Speaker 2>How fortunate am I? People often say me, why do

15
00:00:46.920 --> 00:00:49.159
<v Speaker 2>you think gratitude is performance and hancster and I think

16
00:00:49.159 --> 00:00:52.159
<v Speaker 2>one of the reasons is you cannot be grateful and

17
00:00:52.240 --> 00:00:54.439
<v Speaker 2>complain at the same time, Like those two things do

18
00:00:54.600 --> 00:00:56.840
<v Speaker 2>not go hand in hand, getting on what I call

19
00:00:56.880 --> 00:01:00.240
<v Speaker 2>the complaint train. My shots are terrible today and I

20
00:01:00.240 --> 00:01:02.280
<v Speaker 2>can't believe that it's cloudy and it's a bit hotter

21
00:01:02.359 --> 00:01:05.239
<v Speaker 2>than I thought, and people in front are too slow,

22
00:01:05.400 --> 00:01:08.120
<v Speaker 2>and there's people going too quickly behind us, and all

23
00:01:08.159 --> 00:01:10.159
<v Speaker 2>that sort of stuff that already sounds like the sort

24
00:01:10.159 --> 00:01:11.840
<v Speaker 2>of person I don't really want to spend a couple

25
00:01:11.879 --> 00:01:14.920
<v Speaker 2>of hours with. But it also doesn't put you in

26
00:01:14.959 --> 00:01:17.519
<v Speaker 2>a mindset that sets you up to being open and

27
00:01:17.599 --> 00:01:20.159
<v Speaker 2>created and curious, which we know of those things that

28
00:01:20.280 --> 00:01:23.239
<v Speaker 2>go help us in terms of performance. When we are grateful,

29
00:01:23.359 --> 00:01:26.200
<v Speaker 2>it's almost like an internal little sigh where we relax.

30
00:01:26.599 --> 00:01:30.560
<v Speaker 2>Complaining and winging is tense. Gratitude is an absolute winner

31
00:01:30.599 --> 00:01:33.200
<v Speaker 2>for us in terms of performance enhancement.

32
00:01:38.239 --> 00:01:43.120
<v Speaker 3>The practices of elite athletes that will help all amateur golfers.

33
00:01:43.359 --> 00:01:48.519
<v Speaker 1>With doctor Joe Lucas, this is golf s Murder, sharing stories,

34
00:01:48.560 --> 00:01:51.799
<v Speaker 1>tips and insights from great golf minds to help you

35
00:01:51.879 --> 00:01:54.480
<v Speaker 1>lower your score and raise your golf IQ.

36
00:01:55.359 --> 00:01:57.040
<v Speaker 2>Here's your host, Fred Green.

37
00:01:58.000 --> 00:01:59.640
<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Golf Murder Podcast.

38
00:01:59.719 --> 00:02:02.239
<v Speaker 2>Joe Ah, Hi, Fred, good to be with you.

39
00:02:02.959 --> 00:02:05.239
<v Speaker 1>It's great to be with you. We've had doctor Joe

40
00:02:05.280 --> 00:02:07.560
<v Speaker 1>on many times in this show, but it was doctor

41
00:02:07.640 --> 00:02:12.879
<v Speaker 1>Joe parent It's great. It's great to have doctor Joe.

42
00:02:12.960 --> 00:02:17.800
<v Speaker 1>Luken's on. A woman who has a really good book

43
00:02:18.879 --> 00:02:23.800
<v Speaker 1>called The elite think like an athlete, succeed like a champion.

44
00:02:25.520 --> 00:02:28.240
<v Speaker 1>I am fascinated and I want to go real deep

45
00:02:28.240 --> 00:02:31.639
<v Speaker 1>with this. I think it's a great topic, especially for

46
00:02:31.759 --> 00:02:33.000
<v Speaker 1>the golf Smarter audience.

47
00:02:33.439 --> 00:02:35.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, thank you, Fred, looking forward to the conversation.

48
00:02:36.840 --> 00:02:42.759
<v Speaker 1>So, you know, elite athletes have this routine. I guess

49
00:02:42.840 --> 00:02:49.520
<v Speaker 1>that it would be called that would be prepare, train, compete, Prepare, train, compete,

50
00:02:50.120 --> 00:02:52.840
<v Speaker 1>and it just goes on. And that is the cycle

51
00:02:53.000 --> 00:02:58.080
<v Speaker 1>that they're in, right, And how did you get to

52
00:02:58.120 --> 00:03:01.479
<v Speaker 1>that point under stid where you're going.

53
00:03:01.319 --> 00:03:04.960
<v Speaker 2>With the book? Yeah, So the book's come of about

54
00:03:05.039 --> 00:03:07.919
<v Speaker 2>after a number of years of working in the area.

55
00:03:08.039 --> 00:03:11.520
<v Speaker 2>Like you said, it's that Prepare, Train, compete. And then

56
00:03:11.520 --> 00:03:13.360
<v Speaker 2>the extra element that I like to put in with

57
00:03:13.520 --> 00:03:15.879
<v Speaker 2>that is part of that preparation is to learn from

58
00:03:15.879 --> 00:03:22.159
<v Speaker 2>the competition, you know. So my two favorite reminders for athletes, coaches, teams,

59
00:03:22.240 --> 00:03:25.039
<v Speaker 2>you know, whomever I might be working with, is to

60
00:03:25.080 --> 00:03:28.560
<v Speaker 2>always remember that success leaves clues. So when we have

61
00:03:28.639 --> 00:03:32.080
<v Speaker 2>been successful in our performance, as successful in our practice,

62
00:03:32.240 --> 00:03:34.240
<v Speaker 2>you know that hasn't come about by accident. So there's

63
00:03:34.560 --> 00:03:37.919
<v Speaker 2>the little clues that sit in behind that. So understanding

64
00:03:37.919 --> 00:03:40.479
<v Speaker 2>the clues so we can rinse and repeat them, and then,

65
00:03:40.520 --> 00:03:42.680
<v Speaker 2>of course, when things don't quite great, a plan, which

66
00:03:42.719 --> 00:03:45.159
<v Speaker 2>is also part of what it is in golf and

67
00:03:45.599 --> 00:03:48.560
<v Speaker 2>in other sports as well. It's understanding that there's always

68
00:03:48.560 --> 00:03:52.120
<v Speaker 2>a lesson on offers, so if we're wise, we'll stop, plause,

69
00:03:52.680 --> 00:03:56.039
<v Speaker 2>learn the lesson, and then hopefully we can we can

70
00:03:56.080 --> 00:03:59.520
<v Speaker 2>improve from that. So I guess Elite was the first

71
00:03:59.520 --> 00:04:03.120
<v Speaker 2>book that I wrote, and it really was design. I

72
00:04:03.159 --> 00:04:04.800
<v Speaker 2>guess it was a bit of a reflection piece for

73
00:04:04.840 --> 00:04:06.560
<v Speaker 2>me in some ways. You know, it's what if I

74
00:04:06.680 --> 00:04:09.360
<v Speaker 2>learned from working with the elite athletes and performers that

75
00:04:09.400 --> 00:04:11.719
<v Speaker 2>I've worked in throughout my career, because I work in

76
00:04:11.759 --> 00:04:17.639
<v Speaker 2>a brained domains and sports in my country, and so

77
00:04:17.759 --> 00:04:20.480
<v Speaker 2>it's really been about what have I learned, and then

78
00:04:20.920 --> 00:04:23.720
<v Speaker 2>what are those lessons that we can translate for anyone,

79
00:04:24.319 --> 00:04:26.759
<v Speaker 2>whatever their discipline might be. And you know, even for

80
00:04:26.800 --> 00:04:29.399
<v Speaker 2>the non athletes out there. You know, I know that

81
00:04:29.439 --> 00:04:31.519
<v Speaker 2>you don't need to be an elite athlete to think

82
00:04:31.639 --> 00:04:34.560
<v Speaker 2>like one, So we can translate some of those lessons

83
00:04:34.560 --> 00:04:36.079
<v Speaker 2>and that's certainly some of the things I get to

84
00:04:36.120 --> 00:04:37.199
<v Speaker 2>do in the work that I do.

85
00:04:38.360 --> 00:04:40.600
<v Speaker 1>Well. I'm glad that you said, you don't have to

86
00:04:40.639 --> 00:04:42.920
<v Speaker 1>be the elite athlete to think like one, And I

87
00:04:42.959 --> 00:04:45.759
<v Speaker 1>think that's part of what golf smurder has always been about,

88
00:04:46.319 --> 00:04:50.680
<v Speaker 1>is how to fine tune our mental approach to the

89
00:04:50.720 --> 00:04:54.120
<v Speaker 1>game and our emotional approach to the game so that

90
00:04:54.199 --> 00:04:56.439
<v Speaker 1>we don't have to just focus on our mechanics.

91
00:04:56.959 --> 00:04:59.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I would agree with that because I think that,

92
00:05:00.480 --> 00:05:04.319
<v Speaker 2>you know, when we approach our sport in a way

93
00:05:04.399 --> 00:05:07.680
<v Speaker 2>that is curious and we're open to learning, you know,

94
00:05:07.720 --> 00:05:10.040
<v Speaker 2>it really sets us up. I mean, I think it's essentially,

95
00:05:10.079 --> 00:05:11.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, there's probably a lot of goals that we

96
00:05:11.560 --> 00:05:14.319
<v Speaker 2>set for ourselves, and particularly within golf, there's lots of

97
00:05:14.360 --> 00:05:16.199
<v Speaker 2>things that people would be working on and wanting to

98
00:05:16.240 --> 00:05:18.759
<v Speaker 2>achieve and to attain. But if you can walk away

99
00:05:18.759 --> 00:05:22.800
<v Speaker 2>from it feeling like you've had some success in particular areas,

100
00:05:22.480 --> 00:05:25.439
<v Speaker 2>it's just very satisfying. And I guess that's what Keys is.

101
00:05:25.480 --> 00:05:26.759
<v Speaker 2>Going back to play again.

102
00:05:28.000 --> 00:05:30.360
<v Speaker 1>Tell me your background on how you got to this

103
00:05:31.240 --> 00:05:33.759
<v Speaker 1>and what made you study athletes in this way.

104
00:05:34.240 --> 00:05:36.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so you would think that being a high performance

105
00:05:36.920 --> 00:05:39.480
<v Speaker 2>psychology expert, that was all part of a cunning plan,

106
00:05:39.560 --> 00:05:41.519
<v Speaker 2>but it turns out that it wasn't it. Actually I

107
00:05:41.800 --> 00:05:44.920
<v Speaker 2>got here by accident. To be honest, I as a

108
00:05:44.959 --> 00:05:46.800
<v Speaker 2>young high school student, I thought I was joining the

109
00:05:46.800 --> 00:05:49.480
<v Speaker 2>police force. So you might have picked up the audience

110
00:05:49.519 --> 00:05:51.480
<v Speaker 2>might have picked up for my accent that I'm Australian,

111
00:05:51.959 --> 00:05:57.480
<v Speaker 2>Australian based and as a young high see I don't

112
00:05:57.519 --> 00:06:00.279
<v Speaker 2>think my accident accent is that pronounced, but anyway, I'm

113
00:06:00.319 --> 00:06:01.560
<v Speaker 2>sure it is.

114
00:06:01.319 --> 00:06:01.639
<v Speaker 1>It is.

115
00:06:01.800 --> 00:06:03.879
<v Speaker 2>It is, okay, I'll try not to be too strine

116
00:06:03.920 --> 00:06:06.120
<v Speaker 2>with it then, so we no, No, it's okay. It

117
00:06:06.160 --> 00:06:08.720
<v Speaker 2>can be a little harsh with our sounds sometimes the Aussies.

118
00:06:09.839 --> 00:06:11.959
<v Speaker 2>So I started, I thought I was going to join

119
00:06:12.000 --> 00:06:14.199
<v Speaker 2>the police force, and so my parents used to take

120
00:06:14.240 --> 00:06:17.399
<v Speaker 2>me to the information nights down at the police Academy

121
00:06:17.439 --> 00:06:20.160
<v Speaker 2>near where I grew up. I if, for those who

122
00:06:20.160 --> 00:06:23.000
<v Speaker 2>are familiar with Australia, if you look sort of top

123
00:06:23.079 --> 00:06:26.000
<v Speaker 2>right hand corner, that's where I'm located there, just off

124
00:06:26.079 --> 00:06:28.160
<v Speaker 2>the barrier reef, which is a nice part of the

125
00:06:28.160 --> 00:06:31.399
<v Speaker 2>world to be living. And so yes, Mum and I

126
00:06:31.480 --> 00:06:34.399
<v Speaker 2>would go down to the police Academy would get information

127
00:06:34.480 --> 00:06:36.120
<v Speaker 2>on how I was going to join the police force.

128
00:06:36.120 --> 00:06:39.199
<v Speaker 2>When I finally finished high school and in my grade

129
00:06:39.240 --> 00:06:41.759
<v Speaker 2>twelve year, my final year of high school. As I

130
00:06:41.839 --> 00:06:44.399
<v Speaker 2>was walking across the campus a police officer was walking

131
00:06:44.399 --> 00:06:46.360
<v Speaker 2>in the opposite direction and he just stopped me mid

132
00:06:46.360 --> 00:06:48.800
<v Speaker 2>stride and he said to me, what are you doing here?

133
00:06:49.199 --> 00:06:51.040
<v Speaker 2>And I said, I'm coming to join the police force.

134
00:06:51.079 --> 00:06:52.360
<v Speaker 2>And he looked at me and he said, well, what

135
00:06:52.439 --> 00:06:55.519
<v Speaker 2>degree are you going to do? And in Australia you

136
00:06:55.560 --> 00:06:57.600
<v Speaker 2>don't need a degree to join the police force, and

137
00:06:57.600 --> 00:07:00.360
<v Speaker 2>you certainly didn't back in the nineteen eighties. I was

138
00:07:00.399 --> 00:07:02.360
<v Speaker 2>looking to do it and I said, oh, I didn't

139
00:07:02.360 --> 00:07:04.240
<v Speaker 2>know that I need to. What do I need to do?

140
00:07:04.279 --> 00:07:06.240
<v Speaker 2>And he said, we'll just do something to do with people,

141
00:07:06.600 --> 00:07:09.519
<v Speaker 2>and I said okay. And so, being a good child

142
00:07:09.519 --> 00:07:11.079
<v Speaker 2>of the eighties, I went back to my school. I

143
00:07:11.120 --> 00:07:13.240
<v Speaker 2>went back to the guidance officer and said, you know,

144
00:07:13.360 --> 00:07:14.680
<v Speaker 2>I need to do a degree. It's got to be

145
00:07:14.680 --> 00:07:17.759
<v Speaker 2>something to do with people. He said, what about psychology.

146
00:07:17.839 --> 00:07:20.120
<v Speaker 2>I said that sounds good, and so I went and

147
00:07:20.160 --> 00:07:22.800
<v Speaker 2>did a psychology degree. And I think probably for the

148
00:07:22.839 --> 00:07:25.120
<v Speaker 2>good people of Queensland where I live. I don't know

149
00:07:25.160 --> 00:07:26.959
<v Speaker 2>what sort of police officer I would have been, but

150
00:07:27.839 --> 00:07:30.600
<v Speaker 2>I studied psychology. By the end of my fourth year,

151
00:07:30.600 --> 00:07:35.240
<v Speaker 2>I'd found my love of sports psychology particularly and Australia,

152
00:07:35.519 --> 00:07:37.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, like it is in the US, is very

153
00:07:37.959 --> 00:07:41.240
<v Speaker 2>much a sports loving country, so there's lots of opportunity.

154
00:07:41.279 --> 00:07:45.079
<v Speaker 2>There's national teams within the region that I live in.

155
00:07:45.319 --> 00:07:48.079
<v Speaker 2>And now that I've spent sort of over three decades

156
00:07:48.120 --> 00:07:50.800
<v Speaker 2>working in sports psychology, you know, I travel a lot

157
00:07:50.800 --> 00:07:53.839
<v Speaker 2>around Australia. I have athletes from all different kinds of sports,

158
00:07:53.920 --> 00:07:57.319
<v Speaker 2>teen sports, individual sports, and so forth. So that's where

159
00:07:57.319 --> 00:08:01.000
<v Speaker 2>that all came about. And then about twenty five, twenty

160
00:08:01.040 --> 00:08:05.240
<v Speaker 2>seven years deep into my work, I thought, you know what,

161
00:08:05.879 --> 00:08:08.079
<v Speaker 2>and someone once said to me, if there's advice you're

162
00:08:08.079 --> 00:08:10.879
<v Speaker 2>continually giving out, then think about putting it into a book,

163
00:08:11.000 --> 00:08:13.959
<v Speaker 2>because that's a way to reach more people. So that's

164
00:08:13.959 --> 00:08:16.240
<v Speaker 2>how The Elite came about. And I did a little

165
00:08:16.240 --> 00:08:18.639
<v Speaker 2>bit of research into how to write a book and

166
00:08:18.680 --> 00:08:20.240
<v Speaker 2>how to get that out there. Turns out that's a

167
00:08:20.240 --> 00:08:23.560
<v Speaker 2>whole other adventure, and so The Elite was written and

168
00:08:23.839 --> 00:08:26.639
<v Speaker 2>I'm continuing to refine that process. So I'm actually just

169
00:08:26.680 --> 00:08:28.240
<v Speaker 2>about to release book number five.

170
00:08:28.399 --> 00:08:29.519
<v Speaker 1>So wow.

171
00:08:29.639 --> 00:08:34.279
<v Speaker 2>But the Elite is it's the one that I talk

172
00:08:34.320 --> 00:08:37.440
<v Speaker 2>about the most. It's the one that has the broaders readership.

173
00:08:37.480 --> 00:08:40.159
<v Speaker 2>And in addition to my work in sport, I also

174
00:08:40.679 --> 00:08:43.559
<v Speaker 2>work in the Australian Defense Force. So many of our

175
00:08:44.559 --> 00:08:48.919
<v Speaker 2>incredible defense members in Australia have have read The Elite

176
00:08:48.960 --> 00:08:51.399
<v Speaker 2>and we include that as part of the education pieces

177
00:08:51.399 --> 00:08:53.600
<v Speaker 2>that I deliver into the Defense Force as well.

178
00:08:55.000 --> 00:09:02.159
<v Speaker 1>Fabulous fascinating background and what bright took you from police

179
00:09:02.240 --> 00:09:07.240
<v Speaker 1>work and training and you know, getting that psychology, how

180
00:09:07.240 --> 00:09:10.960
<v Speaker 1>did you get to sports? So I will opened those doors.

181
00:09:11.279 --> 00:09:14.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So there was my super In our fourth year

182
00:09:14.240 --> 00:09:17.679
<v Speaker 2>of our degree, we I was given the opportunity to

183
00:09:17.720 --> 00:09:19.960
<v Speaker 2>do an honors program and in that you need to

184
00:09:20.039 --> 00:09:23.039
<v Speaker 2>do a set body of work and some set research.

185
00:09:23.120 --> 00:09:27.000
<v Speaker 2>And it was actually my supervisor who I went to.

186
00:09:27.080 --> 00:09:29.159
<v Speaker 2>She was someone who taught me through my degree. I

187
00:09:29.200 --> 00:09:31.799
<v Speaker 2>really gravitated to her. I liked the way she thinked,

188
00:09:31.879 --> 00:09:34.679
<v Speaker 2>I liked the way she challenged me. And her particular

189
00:09:34.720 --> 00:09:38.519
<v Speaker 2>area of interest was child psychology. And so whilst I

190
00:09:38.559 --> 00:09:42.240
<v Speaker 2>didn't specifically want to go into child psychology per se,

191
00:09:42.559 --> 00:09:44.120
<v Speaker 2>we were talking one day and she said, you know,

192
00:09:44.159 --> 00:09:46.360
<v Speaker 2>you could always do it in an area that interests you,

193
00:09:46.720 --> 00:09:50.080
<v Speaker 2>that involves children. So my very first research was with

194
00:09:51.000 --> 00:09:53.039
<v Speaker 2>It was probably the bravest research I've done in my

195
00:09:53.080 --> 00:09:54.759
<v Speaker 2>career because I worked with eight year olds and ten

196
00:09:54.799 --> 00:09:57.159
<v Speaker 2>year olds. So every one who's ever spent time with

197
00:09:57.200 --> 00:09:59.080
<v Speaker 2>eight year olds and ten year olds, I've raised two

198
00:09:59.120 --> 00:10:03.240
<v Speaker 2>of them. But you know, I love children of that

199
00:10:03.360 --> 00:10:05.759
<v Speaker 2>age because they really don't have the filter that many

200
00:10:05.799 --> 00:10:10.080
<v Speaker 2>of us learn as adults. So I looked at I

201
00:10:10.120 --> 00:10:13.720
<v Speaker 2>compared children's levels of self esteem, and depending upon their

202
00:10:13.720 --> 00:10:16.519
<v Speaker 2>self esteem, whether their self esteem was higher or lower,

203
00:10:17.519 --> 00:10:19.679
<v Speaker 2>whether that had an influence then on how they would

204
00:10:19.759 --> 00:10:23.360
<v Speaker 2>explain their relative successes and disappointments in sport. And it's

205
00:10:23.360 --> 00:10:27.200
<v Speaker 2>probably no surprise to the audience listening that those children

206
00:10:27.279 --> 00:10:30.360
<v Speaker 2>who had higher levels of self esteem would tend to

207
00:10:30.600 --> 00:10:34.200
<v Speaker 2>attribute their successes in a more complimentary way to themselves.

208
00:10:34.240 --> 00:10:36.279
<v Speaker 2>They'd think it was because of their ability. They'd see

209
00:10:36.279 --> 00:10:38.840
<v Speaker 2>it because of their effort, whereas children with lower self

210
00:10:38.919 --> 00:10:40.600
<v Speaker 2>esteem would say, you know, well, I was just lucky

211
00:10:40.639 --> 00:10:44.159
<v Speaker 2>that day and competition wasn't very hard, and those sorts

212
00:10:44.200 --> 00:10:47.000
<v Speaker 2>of things. So I was really curious about how children

213
00:10:47.080 --> 00:10:49.519
<v Speaker 2>explain the world. I've always been interested in those levels

214
00:10:49.519 --> 00:10:53.960
<v Speaker 2>of attributions, and that's always been an area of interest

215
00:10:54.039 --> 00:10:56.679
<v Speaker 2>for me, and then that developed further from there and that.

216
00:10:56.600 --> 00:10:58.639
<v Speaker 1>Took you to professional athletes.

217
00:10:58.679 --> 00:10:59.039
<v Speaker 3>It did.

218
00:10:59.120 --> 00:11:01.120
<v Speaker 2>So I live in the re of Australia, as I said,

219
00:11:01.200 --> 00:11:03.399
<v Speaker 2>sort of top right hand corner of Australia, and at

220
00:11:03.440 --> 00:11:06.080
<v Speaker 2>that point in time, not long after I graduated, I'm

221
00:11:06.120 --> 00:11:08.200
<v Speaker 2>a big fan of I don't know if you remember Fred.

222
00:11:08.200 --> 00:11:10.759
<v Speaker 2>In nineteen ninety six, Gwyneth Paltrow was in a movie

223
00:11:10.799 --> 00:11:14.559
<v Speaker 2>it was Sliding Doors, and the Sliding Doors movie was

224
00:11:14.639 --> 00:11:16.440
<v Speaker 2>all about I think in that movie it was whether

225
00:11:16.519 --> 00:11:18.200
<v Speaker 2>or not she took a subway, you know, she got

226
00:11:18.279 --> 00:11:20.480
<v Speaker 2>the subway or she missed the subway. In the movie

227
00:11:20.519 --> 00:11:22.639
<v Speaker 2>sort of split down the middle and it showed her life.

228
00:11:23.440 --> 00:11:25.639
<v Speaker 2>And the Sliding Doors moment for me, apart from the

229
00:11:25.679 --> 00:11:29.559
<v Speaker 2>police officer stopping me. You know, six or seven years earlier,

230
00:11:29.720 --> 00:11:32.480
<v Speaker 2>was that a new football team came to our region

231
00:11:32.559 --> 00:11:35.080
<v Speaker 2>and they didn't have a sports psychologist there. There wasn't

232
00:11:35.080 --> 00:11:38.480
<v Speaker 2>actually anyone working in sports psychology in our town. And

233
00:11:38.519 --> 00:11:40.840
<v Speaker 2>with all the bravado and gusto that you might have

234
00:11:40.919 --> 00:11:42.480
<v Speaker 2>at the age of I think I was about twenty

235
00:11:42.480 --> 00:11:44.279
<v Speaker 2>five at the time, of course, I thought I could

236
00:11:44.279 --> 00:11:48.000
<v Speaker 2>do it, so I I you know, fortune favors the Brave,

237
00:11:48.039 --> 00:11:50.320
<v Speaker 2>I guess, and so I ended up speaking with the

238
00:11:50.360 --> 00:11:53.000
<v Speaker 2>head coach there and was appointed and stayed with that

239
00:11:53.039 --> 00:12:00.320
<v Speaker 2>team for twenty six years.

240
00:12:00.759 --> 00:12:06.000
<v Speaker 1>I actually have been to Brisbane in the early to

241
00:12:06.080 --> 00:12:09.720
<v Speaker 1>mid nineties. I was there with the National Basketball Association.

242
00:12:09.879 --> 00:12:10.879
<v Speaker 2>They oh, there you got.

243
00:12:11.240 --> 00:12:13.039
<v Speaker 1>They had a fan event and they wanted me to

244
00:12:13.080 --> 00:12:15.279
<v Speaker 1>come along to do my thing over there.

245
00:12:15.360 --> 00:12:18.279
<v Speaker 2>So oh fantastic it was, and I loved it.

246
00:12:18.399 --> 00:12:21.840
<v Speaker 1>I've been begging my wife, come on, come with me,

247
00:12:21.919 --> 00:12:24.559
<v Speaker 1>Let's go back to Australia. Playah A.

248
00:12:24.960 --> 00:12:28.440
<v Speaker 2>I grew up just north of Brisbane, so okay, yeah,

249
00:12:28.559 --> 00:12:31.000
<v Speaker 2>I work with Australian Busball Association, so there you go.

250
00:12:31.200 --> 00:12:33.320
<v Speaker 2>Lots of connections, lots of connections.

251
00:12:33.360 --> 00:12:38.360
<v Speaker 1>That's great in the elite. The one of the things

252
00:12:38.399 --> 00:12:41.840
<v Speaker 1>that really stood out to me, And I wish I

253
00:12:41.840 --> 00:12:45.360
<v Speaker 1>would have known this as a young person, not just

254
00:12:45.519 --> 00:12:50.759
<v Speaker 1>through sport, but in life as the failure the way

255
00:12:50.799 --> 00:12:54.679
<v Speaker 1>you describe it here, failure is not the opposite of success,

256
00:12:55.799 --> 00:12:58.759
<v Speaker 1>but an integral part of it. I wish I would

257
00:12:58.799 --> 00:13:05.279
<v Speaker 1>have realized that not succeeding isn't necessarily failure. It just

258
00:13:05.679 --> 00:13:11.279
<v Speaker 1>breeds experience and it is what gets you to success.

259
00:13:11.720 --> 00:13:15.360
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, it's the pathway for learning. I think, you know, like,

260
00:13:15.759 --> 00:13:18.960
<v Speaker 2>of course, we would all prefer to have success come

261
00:13:19.039 --> 00:13:21.120
<v Speaker 2>away first time around. That would be you know, that

262
00:13:21.440 --> 00:13:23.519
<v Speaker 2>would be wonderful if that's what happened, But I guess

263
00:13:23.519 --> 00:13:26.320
<v Speaker 2>that's not the reality of the world that we live in.

264
00:13:27.440 --> 00:13:29.360
<v Speaker 2>And you know, and golf is certainly one of those

265
00:13:29.399 --> 00:13:31.919
<v Speaker 2>sports that there is so many opportunities to learn along

266
00:13:31.960 --> 00:13:35.240
<v Speaker 2>the way and to gain wisdom whilst you're playing and

267
00:13:35.240 --> 00:13:39.399
<v Speaker 2>whilst you're practicing. So I think it's I think, as

268
00:13:39.440 --> 00:13:42.360
<v Speaker 2>you say, it's broader than what we do within our sport.

269
00:13:42.679 --> 00:13:45.039
<v Speaker 2>It's how we approach life and when we understand that

270
00:13:45.080 --> 00:13:48.440
<v Speaker 2>when the disappointments come, it isn't so much what happens

271
00:13:48.440 --> 00:13:50.279
<v Speaker 2>to us. It is about what we do with it.

272
00:13:50.639 --> 00:13:53.279
<v Speaker 2>And so when we see those disappointments, and it's okay,

273
00:13:53.360 --> 00:13:55.559
<v Speaker 2>if you know, if it hurts for a little bit,

274
00:13:55.679 --> 00:13:57.440
<v Speaker 2>if we kind of feel like we're a bit bruised

275
00:13:57.519 --> 00:14:00.840
<v Speaker 2>from the experience, so give us seals permission to take

276
00:14:00.879 --> 00:14:03.600
<v Speaker 2>a deep breath, you know, give ourselves permission to be

277
00:14:03.639 --> 00:14:05.799
<v Speaker 2>a bit annoyed by it, if that's what we feel

278
00:14:05.799 --> 00:14:07.639
<v Speaker 2>that we are. But what we need to do, then,

279
00:14:07.799 --> 00:14:11.279
<v Speaker 2>is to put ourselves on a pathway with what I

280
00:14:11.279 --> 00:14:14.360
<v Speaker 2>would call a performance mindset rather than fixed mindset. That

281
00:14:14.799 --> 00:14:18.399
<v Speaker 2>you know, failures, disappointments, all those sorts of things. Failures

282
00:14:18.480 --> 00:14:20.799
<v Speaker 2>is a word I don't typically try to use that

283
00:14:20.840 --> 00:14:24.279
<v Speaker 2>too often for myself, but I do recognize the challenges

284
00:14:24.279 --> 00:14:26.639
<v Speaker 2>and the disappointments when things don't go my way, and

285
00:14:26.679 --> 00:14:28.840
<v Speaker 2>then go, well, here's life giving me a chance to

286
00:14:28.919 --> 00:14:30.960
<v Speaker 2>learn something here. I wonder what the lesson is.

287
00:14:32.440 --> 00:14:36.559
<v Speaker 1>What separated golfers from other athletes From your research.

288
00:14:37.840 --> 00:14:40.360
<v Speaker 2>I think golf is a sport. I mean, I think,

289
00:14:40.399 --> 00:14:42.440
<v Speaker 2>of all, there's so many sports that have such a

290
00:14:42.480 --> 00:14:45.919
<v Speaker 2>strong mental component, but I think golf is for me.

291
00:14:46.080 --> 00:14:49.000
<v Speaker 2>And I guess my experience with golf goes back to

292
00:14:49.120 --> 00:14:51.000
<v Speaker 2>ramp at the time I thought I was joining the

293
00:14:51.039 --> 00:14:54.559
<v Speaker 2>police force. Was I did in Australia. The subjects often

294
00:14:54.600 --> 00:14:57.240
<v Speaker 2>referred to as PE or physical education, and we did

295
00:14:57.240 --> 00:15:00.480
<v Speaker 2>a golf unit in my grade twelve years so that's

296
00:15:00.519 --> 00:15:03.600
<v Speaker 2>when I first was introduced to golf for myself. But

297
00:15:03.720 --> 00:15:06.240
<v Speaker 2>I've grown up with my father's played golf all of

298
00:15:06.279 --> 00:15:09.840
<v Speaker 2>his life, so we're a golfing family. I have two sons,

299
00:15:10.200 --> 00:15:13.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, they play golf, and I play a little

300
00:15:13.440 --> 00:15:16.000
<v Speaker 2>bit of golf as well, and I am very much

301
00:15:16.120 --> 00:15:18.159
<v Speaker 2>know every expert was once a beginner, and I am

302
00:15:18.279 --> 00:15:21.360
<v Speaker 2>very much consider myself in the beginner ranks. But that's okay,

303
00:15:21.399 --> 00:15:24.120
<v Speaker 2>that's what it is with golf. But I think the

304
00:15:24.200 --> 00:15:28.519
<v Speaker 2>thing with golf is because it's you know, it's a

305
00:15:28.600 --> 00:15:32.120
<v Speaker 2>sport where you play it over an extended period of time.

306
00:15:32.279 --> 00:15:35.000
<v Speaker 2>So over the course of a couple of hours each

307
00:15:35.080 --> 00:15:37.519
<v Speaker 2>time that you go out to play, you know, you

308
00:15:37.600 --> 00:15:40.559
<v Speaker 2>have a lot of time to think, you have a

309
00:15:40.559 --> 00:15:42.879
<v Speaker 2>lot of time to be inside your head, if we

310
00:15:42.919 --> 00:15:46.440
<v Speaker 2>want to use that sort of expression. And so it's

311
00:15:46.519 --> 00:15:50.320
<v Speaker 2>such a great opportunity to be mindful about the way

312
00:15:50.360 --> 00:15:53.039
<v Speaker 2>we choose to speak to ourselves because there's no doubt

313
00:15:53.159 --> 00:15:56.279
<v Speaker 2>that there's that relationship between what we say and how

314
00:15:56.320 --> 00:15:59.240
<v Speaker 2>we feel, and how we feel is really what drives

315
00:15:59.279 --> 00:16:02.000
<v Speaker 2>what we do. You know, So if something doesn't go

316
00:16:02.039 --> 00:16:04.639
<v Speaker 2>to plan on the course, you know you're driving and

317
00:16:04.679 --> 00:16:07.200
<v Speaker 2>it's not you know you're driving. You know you've had

318
00:16:07.200 --> 00:16:09.080
<v Speaker 2>a couple of instances, over a couple of holes where

319
00:16:09.080 --> 00:16:12.279
<v Speaker 2>it hasn't quite been what you've wanted. If your self

320
00:16:12.320 --> 00:16:15.600
<v Speaker 2>talk is, for example, oh my driving is no good today,

321
00:16:16.039 --> 00:16:17.960
<v Speaker 2>Then it sounds like you've actually set the scene for

322
00:16:18.000 --> 00:16:19.960
<v Speaker 2>what's going to happen in the future in addition to

323
00:16:20.000 --> 00:16:23.200
<v Speaker 2>what's happened in the past. So it's that challenge, isn't it,

324
00:16:23.200 --> 00:16:25.600
<v Speaker 2>of going well? Okay? So it's true that for the

325
00:16:25.639 --> 00:16:27.600
<v Speaker 2>last three holes that hasn't been the way that I've

326
00:16:27.600 --> 00:16:30.240
<v Speaker 2>wanted it to. But I've still got six holes in

327
00:16:30.279 --> 00:16:32.799
<v Speaker 2>front of me? So how can I think about this

328
00:16:32.879 --> 00:16:35.759
<v Speaker 2>in a little more helpful way? And I think one

329
00:16:35.759 --> 00:16:38.879
<v Speaker 2>of the phrases that I guess, the framework that I've

330
00:16:39.360 --> 00:16:42.080
<v Speaker 2>found that's particularly useful for a lot of the athletes

331
00:16:42.080 --> 00:16:44.600
<v Speaker 2>that I work with, but also for myself is to

332
00:16:44.639 --> 00:16:46.039
<v Speaker 2>look at it through the lens of what's going to

333
00:16:46.039 --> 00:16:48.480
<v Speaker 2>be helpful right now. So you know, when I've worked

334
00:16:48.480 --> 00:16:52.120
<v Speaker 2>with golfers, it's really been about, you know, in light

335
00:16:52.200 --> 00:16:54.240
<v Speaker 2>of where I'm at right now, in light of what's

336
00:16:54.279 --> 00:16:57.480
<v Speaker 2>been happening, about how I'm feeling, what's the most helpful

337
00:16:57.519 --> 00:16:59.799
<v Speaker 2>approach for me moving forward? And if you can move

338
00:16:59.840 --> 00:17:03.320
<v Speaker 2>your self closer to the helpful, then you know you're

339
00:17:03.399 --> 00:17:06.079
<v Speaker 2>less likely to go down a path where you're maybe

340
00:17:06.359 --> 00:17:09.039
<v Speaker 2>negative or self deprecating in a way that doesn't get

341
00:17:09.039 --> 00:17:11.799
<v Speaker 2>you closer to the goals or the success that you're

342
00:17:11.839 --> 00:17:12.359
<v Speaker 2>looking for.

343
00:17:13.920 --> 00:17:17.440
<v Speaker 1>And what can be helpful right now? I mean I

344
00:17:18.039 --> 00:17:22.000
<v Speaker 1>frequently have said that the history has nothing to do

345
00:17:22.079 --> 00:17:25.759
<v Speaker 1>with golf. When people start, oh boy, I can't drive today,

346
00:17:25.759 --> 00:17:27.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm not it's not working. It's like, well, that has

347
00:17:27.920 --> 00:17:30.319
<v Speaker 1>nothing to do with your next shot. And if you

348
00:17:30.559 --> 00:17:34.039
<v Speaker 1>place that in your head and start telling yourself that,

349
00:17:34.160 --> 00:17:38.319
<v Speaker 1>then you're doomed. So just go just close your eyes, relax,

350
00:17:38.720 --> 00:17:41.759
<v Speaker 1>go through your your preshot or whatever it is that

351
00:17:41.799 --> 00:17:45.640
<v Speaker 1>you need to do, but focus on what's next. Stop

352
00:17:46.240 --> 00:17:48.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, eating yourself up.

353
00:17:47.920 --> 00:17:51.960
<v Speaker 2>Basically exactly. And I would completely concur with that, Fred,

354
00:17:52.000 --> 00:17:55.880
<v Speaker 2>because you're right, that self fulfilling prophecy that we create

355
00:17:55.920 --> 00:17:58.279
<v Speaker 2>for ourselves. If we say my putting's no good today,

356
00:17:58.440 --> 00:18:01.400
<v Speaker 2>or you know, I can't get shot in or whatever

357
00:18:01.440 --> 00:18:04.799
<v Speaker 2>that might be, then don't be surprised when you replicate it.

358
00:18:04.839 --> 00:18:06.519
<v Speaker 2>Because of course, one of the other things we know

359
00:18:06.759 --> 00:18:09.680
<v Speaker 2>is that what we tell ourselves as humans, For many

360
00:18:09.680 --> 00:18:12.039
<v Speaker 2>of us, we do think in visuals, so we are

361
00:18:12.119 --> 00:18:15.960
<v Speaker 2>more likely to you know, if we talk to ourselves

362
00:18:15.960 --> 00:18:17.960
<v Speaker 2>in a way that's less helpful in golf, And I

363
00:18:17.960 --> 00:18:20.440
<v Speaker 2>don't even want to put the negative thoughts in anyone's

364
00:18:20.440 --> 00:18:23.160
<v Speaker 2>mind as I'm talking through this, So I typically go

365
00:18:23.279 --> 00:18:25.920
<v Speaker 2>to a different sport for this example, if I may. So,

366
00:18:26.000 --> 00:18:28.720
<v Speaker 2>if you are a track hurdler, you know, and you're

367
00:18:28.759 --> 00:18:31.039
<v Speaker 2>lined up at the start of the race, it's not

368
00:18:31.079 --> 00:18:33.160
<v Speaker 2>going to be helpful for you to think, don't hit

369
00:18:33.200 --> 00:18:35.640
<v Speaker 2>the hurdles, don't hit the hurdles, because you actually get

370
00:18:35.680 --> 00:18:39.000
<v Speaker 2>that visual that image of the hurdles going down. What

371
00:18:39.039 --> 00:18:41.440
<v Speaker 2>you would be what's more helpful is to go, well,

372
00:18:41.759 --> 00:18:44.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, as I approach the hurdles, like clear the hurdles,

373
00:18:44.920 --> 00:18:47.240
<v Speaker 2>like clear the hurdles, like clear the hurdles. So the

374
00:18:47.319 --> 00:18:50.519
<v Speaker 2>same applies in golf. That as you said, it might

375
00:18:50.559 --> 00:18:54.279
<v Speaker 2>be about your preshop routine. It might be about a visualization.

376
00:18:54.480 --> 00:18:57.160
<v Speaker 2>There might be a cue word you say to yourself, well,

377
00:18:57.160 --> 00:18:59.680
<v Speaker 2>maybe you just simply exhale and you don't think about

378
00:18:59.720 --> 00:19:03.559
<v Speaker 2>any thing. You know, some performers that I work with,

379
00:19:03.640 --> 00:19:08.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, they like the verbal cues for themselves. Others

380
00:19:08.079 --> 00:19:10.240
<v Speaker 2>just say I don't actually want to think about anything.

381
00:19:10.240 --> 00:19:12.000
<v Speaker 2>I just want to feel my way through it. So

382
00:19:12.519 --> 00:19:15.720
<v Speaker 2>we all have to find our own pathway. But I

383
00:19:15.799 --> 00:19:19.359
<v Speaker 2>do think it's you tapped into the probably one of

384
00:19:19.400 --> 00:19:22.880
<v Speaker 2>the most important elements in sport, but particularly in golf,

385
00:19:23.400 --> 00:19:26.839
<v Speaker 2>it's that understanding as humans, we've got three dimensions of

386
00:19:26.880 --> 00:19:30.160
<v Speaker 2>time that we operate in, Like you said, our history,

387
00:19:30.440 --> 00:19:33.359
<v Speaker 2>what's happened, what's happened to everything right up to this moment,

388
00:19:33.759 --> 00:19:36.240
<v Speaker 2>what's happening in this current moment right now, and then

389
00:19:36.279 --> 00:19:40.480
<v Speaker 2>what does it look like in our future? And physically

390
00:19:41.200 --> 00:19:43.279
<v Speaker 2>we can only be in one of those spots, and

391
00:19:43.319 --> 00:19:45.799
<v Speaker 2>that's in the present because unless we've got a time machine,

392
00:19:45.799 --> 00:19:47.839
<v Speaker 2>which would be kind of cool, but we don't have one,

393
00:19:48.039 --> 00:19:50.559
<v Speaker 2>you know, So we can't go back to this morning,

394
00:19:50.640 --> 00:19:54.680
<v Speaker 2>we can't go ahead to the weekend, you know, whenever

395
00:19:54.720 --> 00:19:57.640
<v Speaker 2>it might be sometime in the future. So physically we

396
00:19:57.680 --> 00:20:00.839
<v Speaker 2>can only ever be in the present. But mentally time travelers.

397
00:20:01.359 --> 00:20:04.319
<v Speaker 2>Mentally you can take yourself to wherever you want to be.

398
00:20:04.480 --> 00:20:06.200
<v Speaker 2>Like you said, you could be thinking back to what

399
00:20:06.279 --> 00:20:08.759
<v Speaker 2>happened that on the first hole, or you could be

400
00:20:08.799 --> 00:20:10.839
<v Speaker 2>thinking about what's going to happen when you get to

401
00:20:10.880 --> 00:20:15.200
<v Speaker 2>the clubhouse or whatever it might be. But the challenge

402
00:20:15.240 --> 00:20:18.839
<v Speaker 2>for athletes, the challenge for golfers is to have their

403
00:20:18.839 --> 00:20:21.559
<v Speaker 2>head in the right place at the right time. And

404
00:20:21.680 --> 00:20:24.680
<v Speaker 2>to your point, you know, I would envisage that at

405
00:20:24.720 --> 00:20:26.720
<v Speaker 2>the moment of taking the shot, and please, this is

406
00:20:26.720 --> 00:20:28.960
<v Speaker 2>now your expertise, because you haven't brought me on here

407
00:20:29.000 --> 00:20:32.079
<v Speaker 2>for my golf expertise more than my mental expertise. But

408
00:20:32.319 --> 00:20:34.920
<v Speaker 2>my expectation would be around the time that you are

409
00:20:35.039 --> 00:20:38.079
<v Speaker 2>taking the shot, you know, your focus does become far

410
00:20:38.119 --> 00:20:40.960
<v Speaker 2>more narrowed. You may have gone into the past as

411
00:20:40.960 --> 00:20:44.079
<v Speaker 2>you were selecting your club. You may look into the

412
00:20:44.119 --> 00:20:47.039
<v Speaker 2>future as you survey the hole in front of you

413
00:20:47.079 --> 00:20:49.319
<v Speaker 2>and you pick up on the distance and the hazards

414
00:20:49.359 --> 00:20:51.599
<v Speaker 2>and the you know where you're hoping that the first

415
00:20:51.599 --> 00:20:53.079
<v Speaker 2>shot is going to go. But at the point where

416
00:20:53.079 --> 00:20:56.480
<v Speaker 2>you're actually taking the shot, my expectation would be that

417
00:20:56.519 --> 00:20:58.880
<v Speaker 2>your focus sort of narrows a little bit in terms

418
00:20:58.920 --> 00:21:01.559
<v Speaker 2>of time, and it's about being in the moment and

419
00:21:02.319 --> 00:21:04.559
<v Speaker 2>however you need to spend the time in that moment. So,

420
00:21:04.640 --> 00:21:07.039
<v Speaker 2>as I said, it could be through instruction to yourself,

421
00:21:07.039 --> 00:21:09.480
<v Speaker 2>it could be through an image, it could be through

422
00:21:09.519 --> 00:21:11.519
<v Speaker 2>a breath, whatever it might be. We've all got our

423
00:21:11.559 --> 00:21:15.720
<v Speaker 2>own strategies, but it's how we navigate past present and future.

424
00:21:16.240 --> 00:21:19.079
<v Speaker 2>That really helps to define then whether we've got our

425
00:21:19.079 --> 00:21:20.559
<v Speaker 2>head in the right place at the right time.

426
00:21:26.960 --> 00:21:31.319
<v Speaker 1>Regularly when I'm playing with someone in there or even myself,

427
00:21:31.440 --> 00:21:33.640
<v Speaker 1>don't hit the water, don't hit the water. Don't hit

428
00:21:33.640 --> 00:21:37.319
<v Speaker 1>the water. I always, you know, like chime in and say,

429
00:21:37.400 --> 00:21:40.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, the last three words you just said, hit

430
00:21:40.160 --> 00:21:43.519
<v Speaker 1>the water, hit the water, hit the water, and they're

431
00:21:43.559 --> 00:21:49.240
<v Speaker 1>like what oh yeaheah, yeah, don't even just focus somewhere else.

432
00:21:49.559 --> 00:21:53.319
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, And I think the good reminder there is is

433
00:21:53.400 --> 00:21:56.720
<v Speaker 2>that our brain struggles with the word don't. Your advice

434
00:21:56.839 --> 00:21:58.720
<v Speaker 2>is so wise there. It's almost like if you can

435
00:21:58.799 --> 00:22:01.279
<v Speaker 2>imagine those four words, it's written down on a page,

436
00:22:01.519 --> 00:22:03.480
<v Speaker 2>put a big line through the don't because your brain

437
00:22:03.519 --> 00:22:06.519
<v Speaker 2>doesn't hear it, you know. And if we go you know,

438
00:22:06.599 --> 00:22:09.039
<v Speaker 2>my go to example, which probably resonates well for you

439
00:22:09.079 --> 00:22:11.240
<v Speaker 2>at the moment, is I say, you know, don't think

440
00:22:11.279 --> 00:22:13.599
<v Speaker 2>about the Eiffel Tower, you know, and when we don't

441
00:22:13.599 --> 00:22:16.000
<v Speaker 2>think about the earful tower, boom, there it is, you know,

442
00:22:16.200 --> 00:22:18.640
<v Speaker 2>right there in front of us that we do think

443
00:22:18.640 --> 00:22:22.400
<v Speaker 2>in visuals and so you know, it's that extra little

444
00:22:22.400 --> 00:22:26.599
<v Speaker 2>bit of work that we need to do to tell ourselves. So, okay,

445
00:22:26.640 --> 00:22:28.559
<v Speaker 2>we know we don't want to hit it into the water,

446
00:22:28.680 --> 00:22:30.079
<v Speaker 2>So where do you want to hit it? You know?

447
00:22:30.160 --> 00:22:35.200
<v Speaker 2>And if it's down the fairway, down the fairway is helpful.

448
00:22:35.279 --> 00:22:39.640
<v Speaker 2>Three words not in the water is the unhelpful ones.

449
00:22:39.720 --> 00:22:42.720
<v Speaker 2>So it's and that translates across life, doesn't it. You know,

450
00:22:42.799 --> 00:22:44.880
<v Speaker 2>you have a three year old in your lund room

451
00:22:45.160 --> 00:22:47.240
<v Speaker 2>with a glass of water and you tell them not

452
00:22:47.279 --> 00:22:49.319
<v Speaker 2>to spill it, and then you wander way. You end

453
00:22:49.359 --> 00:22:50.960
<v Speaker 2>up with water all over your floor, you know. So

454
00:22:51.039 --> 00:22:53.039
<v Speaker 2>what you need to say is careful hands, you know.

455
00:22:53.160 --> 00:22:56.240
<v Speaker 2>So so, and that's when we're instructing others, but it's

456
00:22:56.240 --> 00:22:58.880
<v Speaker 2>also when we're talking to ourselves because when we have

457
00:22:59.000 --> 00:23:01.160
<v Speaker 2>a don't phrase in our mind, we've then got to

458
00:23:01.200 --> 00:23:05.519
<v Speaker 2>do all that extra work and you know, transfer it

459
00:23:05.559 --> 00:23:07.680
<v Speaker 2>back to what the actions are actually going.

460
00:23:07.599 --> 00:23:12.200
<v Speaker 1>To look like exactly exactly. So the subtitle of the

461
00:23:12.240 --> 00:23:16.839
<v Speaker 1>subtitle of the Elite, think like an athlete, succeed like

462
00:23:16.880 --> 00:23:19.359
<v Speaker 1>a champion would be the subtitle of the Elite. But

463
00:23:19.480 --> 00:23:21.880
<v Speaker 1>the next one is the one that really got my attention.

464
00:23:22.000 --> 00:23:26.440
<v Speaker 1>That's ten things the elite do differently. Can we break

465
00:23:26.480 --> 00:23:27.119
<v Speaker 1>those down?

466
00:23:27.480 --> 00:23:31.480
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes we can. Please yes, and I mean, certainly

467
00:23:31.519 --> 00:23:34.319
<v Speaker 2>that's what I've done in the book is so, and

468
00:23:34.920 --> 00:23:37.359
<v Speaker 2>what I learned in my research about how do you

469
00:23:37.400 --> 00:23:39.519
<v Speaker 2>write a non fiction book is it seems that the

470
00:23:39.599 --> 00:23:42.119
<v Speaker 2>general model is that you write a twelve chapter book

471
00:23:42.359 --> 00:23:44.720
<v Speaker 2>with an introduction and a conclusion, and then you have

472
00:23:44.759 --> 00:23:47.400
<v Speaker 2>your ten chapters in the middle. So the ten chapters

473
00:23:47.400 --> 00:23:49.400
<v Speaker 2>in the middle, and that's where I've broken it down

474
00:23:49.440 --> 00:23:53.519
<v Speaker 2>into some of those key elements that my experience has

475
00:23:53.559 --> 00:23:56.160
<v Speaker 2>told me is that when athletes get some of these

476
00:23:56.200 --> 00:23:59.079
<v Speaker 2>things right and work, and they're all the work in progress,

477
00:23:59.119 --> 00:24:00.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, So it's not like you can work your

478
00:24:00.680 --> 00:24:02.400
<v Speaker 2>way through the list and just tick them all off.

479
00:24:02.519 --> 00:24:05.119
<v Speaker 2>Is that you know, for all of us, at whatever

480
00:24:05.160 --> 00:24:08.000
<v Speaker 2>age we are, we're generally a work in progress. We're

481
00:24:08.000 --> 00:24:10.160
<v Speaker 2>working on some things. There's always something to work on.

482
00:24:10.920 --> 00:24:14.359
<v Speaker 2>So those are certainly the ten key chapters there in

483
00:24:14.960 --> 00:24:18.200
<v Speaker 2>the elite are the key messages that I really wanted

484
00:24:18.200 --> 00:24:20.000
<v Speaker 2>to focus on in that first book that I wrote,

485
00:24:20.039 --> 00:24:21.640
<v Speaker 2>because what I wanted to be able to do is

486
00:24:21.759 --> 00:24:25.119
<v Speaker 2>translate some of the lessons of high performance so that

487
00:24:25.200 --> 00:24:27.440
<v Speaker 2>anyone can read it and hopefully it's a very comfortable

488
00:24:27.519 --> 00:24:29.759
<v Speaker 2>read for people to read. Or listen to the audio book,

489
00:24:29.759 --> 00:24:31.720
<v Speaker 2>however they might want to do it. But you know,

490
00:24:31.799 --> 00:24:34.480
<v Speaker 2>we've got those lessons there and we can dip into those,

491
00:24:34.599 --> 00:24:36.279
<v Speaker 2>spend a bit of time with them, and work on

492
00:24:36.279 --> 00:24:37.279
<v Speaker 2>our skill sets.

493
00:24:38.440 --> 00:24:40.559
<v Speaker 1>But if it's a golf book, it's going to be eighteen.

494
00:24:40.279 --> 00:24:44.799
<v Speaker 2>Chapters, well yes, yes, I'd have to make smaller chapters.

495
00:24:44.839 --> 00:24:47.440
<v Speaker 2>So maybe the golf book that I write will actually

496
00:24:47.480 --> 00:24:49.880
<v Speaker 2>be eighteen Or as my son did the other day,

497
00:24:50.400 --> 00:24:52.920
<v Speaker 2>I think he was avoiding doing something some chores at home,

498
00:24:53.640 --> 00:24:56.119
<v Speaker 2>so he actually played thirty six so he had so

499
00:24:56.240 --> 00:24:58.400
<v Speaker 2>much time the first time around he went around again,

500
00:24:58.480 --> 00:24:59.920
<v Speaker 2>So that might be a thirty six chapter.

501
00:25:04.000 --> 00:25:07.640
<v Speaker 1>All right, so let's start with I mean, I don't

502
00:25:07.720 --> 00:25:09.440
<v Speaker 1>really care on what order it is, but I'd love

503
00:25:09.480 --> 00:25:12.480
<v Speaker 1>to get to these ten things that elite athletes do

504
00:25:12.599 --> 00:25:17.440
<v Speaker 1>that we could learn from, not that we don't, but

505
00:25:18.279 --> 00:25:21.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, let's also put in perspective that most elite

506
00:25:21.519 --> 00:25:26.559
<v Speaker 1>athletes are young people, right, I mean, whether the Olympics

507
00:25:26.640 --> 00:25:30.759
<v Speaker 1>or professional sports, they're between eighteen and thirty years old,

508
00:25:31.599 --> 00:25:34.759
<v Speaker 1>and we're looking at them like their heroes or something.

509
00:25:34.799 --> 00:25:37.359
<v Speaker 1>But they've got a talent or they've you know, got

510
00:25:37.400 --> 00:25:42.000
<v Speaker 1>a work ethic that puts them in a different place

511
00:25:42.079 --> 00:25:45.400
<v Speaker 1>than most of us who have a work ethic for

512
00:25:45.480 --> 00:25:49.400
<v Speaker 1>our work, right, so we shouldn't try to compare or

513
00:25:49.480 --> 00:25:54.559
<v Speaker 1>look to those people as guides for our lives. But

514
00:25:54.599 --> 00:25:58.000
<v Speaker 1>with that said, what are let's let's break down the

515
00:25:58.319 --> 00:25:59.119
<v Speaker 1>ten things.

516
00:25:59.359 --> 00:26:02.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So I think one of the first things that

517
00:26:02.759 --> 00:26:04.640
<v Speaker 2>I would say is, and it taps into what we've

518
00:26:04.640 --> 00:26:06.799
<v Speaker 2>been talking about, is about having a master plan for

519
00:26:06.880 --> 00:26:10.640
<v Speaker 2>your mindset. So it's it's understanding some of those things

520
00:26:10.720 --> 00:26:13.079
<v Speaker 2>we were talking about earlier that you can have a

521
00:26:13.200 --> 00:26:16.920
<v Speaker 2>very fixed mindset around how how it is that you think,

522
00:26:17.440 --> 00:26:19.559
<v Speaker 2>or you can be open and you can be curious

523
00:26:19.559 --> 00:26:22.440
<v Speaker 2>and interestingly, in the next book that I'm writing, I'm

524
00:26:22.440 --> 00:26:26.279
<v Speaker 2>talking a lot about curiosity, which which fits in really

525
00:26:26.359 --> 00:26:28.200
<v Speaker 2>nicely with that notion of having a little bit of

526
00:26:28.720 --> 00:26:31.640
<v Speaker 2>a master plan around your mindset. It's understanding that the

527
00:26:31.640 --> 00:26:34.799
<v Speaker 2>way that you think matters, if you know, which is

528
00:26:34.839 --> 00:26:37.000
<v Speaker 2>such a simple concept in some ways, but it makes

529
00:26:37.039 --> 00:26:41.880
<v Speaker 2>such an incredible difference. And having that curiosity being open

530
00:26:41.960 --> 00:26:44.640
<v Speaker 2>to ideas is that you know, what I've what I

531
00:26:44.839 --> 00:26:47.680
<v Speaker 2>find is that when I meet curious souls, and whether

532
00:26:47.720 --> 00:26:50.839
<v Speaker 2>that be defense personnel, whether that be elite athletes, whether

533
00:26:50.880 --> 00:26:53.880
<v Speaker 2>it be you know, really experienced coaches that I work

534
00:26:53.960 --> 00:26:59.359
<v Speaker 2>with and so forth. It's about having that openness, that curiosity,

535
00:26:59.440 --> 00:27:03.240
<v Speaker 2>that flexibility in terms of thinking about being open to

536
00:27:04.079 --> 00:27:07.720
<v Speaker 2>you know, so maybe maybe in my golf game, actually

537
00:27:07.759 --> 00:27:09.359
<v Speaker 2>my putting is actually probably the best bit of it.

538
00:27:09.400 --> 00:27:12.759
<v Speaker 2>But you know, so let's say my driving, My driving

539
00:27:12.839 --> 00:27:15.039
<v Speaker 2>is where there is the most room for improvement. So

540
00:27:15.039 --> 00:27:17.279
<v Speaker 2>how's that for a positive reframe? So let's just say

541
00:27:17.279 --> 00:27:20.480
<v Speaker 2>that's what that is for me. So exactly what I've

542
00:27:20.519 --> 00:27:23.480
<v Speaker 2>just done there, see how I've really tried to positively

543
00:27:23.519 --> 00:27:27.480
<v Speaker 2>reframe that. You know, it's not the strongest of my

544
00:27:27.519 --> 00:27:30.519
<v Speaker 2>of my skill set when it comes to golf. And

545
00:27:30.559 --> 00:27:33.039
<v Speaker 2>if I say to myself, well, I'm not good at driving,

546
00:27:33.759 --> 00:27:36.559
<v Speaker 2>then that sounds quite fixed and it sounds quite permanent,

547
00:27:36.599 --> 00:27:39.240
<v Speaker 2>and it doesn't sound particularly positive. But even just shifting

548
00:27:39.279 --> 00:27:44.599
<v Speaker 2>that thinking slightly, I'm not good at driving, yet it

549
00:27:44.720 --> 00:27:49.440
<v Speaker 2>recognizes that possibility for improvement. And so I think one

550
00:27:49.480 --> 00:27:51.400
<v Speaker 2>of one of the key things for us to have

551
00:27:52.079 --> 00:27:56.279
<v Speaker 2>is that notion of that particular mindset piece. And I

552
00:27:56.319 --> 00:28:00.160
<v Speaker 2>think that's what's that's what's really helpful for us to

553
00:28:00.160 --> 00:28:05.960
<v Speaker 2>to start that with the approach around around our actual mindset,

554
00:28:05.960 --> 00:28:08.519
<v Speaker 2>because we know that your attitude can be your greatest

555
00:28:08.759 --> 00:28:11.559
<v Speaker 2>or your greatest acquisition, or can be one of your

556
00:28:11.559 --> 00:28:12.359
<v Speaker 2>biggest barriers.

557
00:28:14.079 --> 00:28:20.880
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, absolutely, and probably and again with golf, there's so

558
00:28:21.079 --> 00:28:25.680
<v Speaker 1>little time that you're actually playing golf, and so much

559
00:28:25.720 --> 00:28:31.640
<v Speaker 1>of the time is beating yourself up going over the

560
00:28:31.720 --> 00:28:34.079
<v Speaker 1>last shot or worrying about the next one. Yeah.

561
00:28:34.119 --> 00:28:37.680
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, And it's challenging, isn't it Because for many people

562
00:28:37.720 --> 00:28:40.559
<v Speaker 2>who don't go down the elite pathway, which is the

563
00:28:40.599 --> 00:28:44.880
<v Speaker 2>majority of golfers, this is the fun stuff. This is like,

564
00:28:45.160 --> 00:28:48.160
<v Speaker 2>this is what you're choosing to do in your recreation time,

565
00:28:48.240 --> 00:28:51.319
<v Speaker 2>and it's the skill that you're choosing to build. So

566
00:28:51.359 --> 00:28:53.839
<v Speaker 2>we want to find those ways to find the enjoyment

567
00:28:53.920 --> 00:28:56.519
<v Speaker 2>in it rather than spending ninety percent of that time,

568
00:28:56.960 --> 00:28:59.359
<v Speaker 2>you know, being frustrated and annoyed and like you said,

569
00:28:59.359 --> 00:29:02.920
<v Speaker 2>beating ourselves up so that you can be really quite challenging.

570
00:29:03.759 --> 00:29:06.160
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely all right, Where are we go next with that?

571
00:29:06.559 --> 00:29:09.119
<v Speaker 2>I think the next one and I think this will

572
00:29:09.119 --> 00:29:11.880
<v Speaker 2>resonate with what you were talking earlier about in terms

573
00:29:12.119 --> 00:29:20.000
<v Speaker 2>of pre shot rituals and routine is habits. Now look

574
00:29:20.160 --> 00:29:22.480
<v Speaker 2>to be honest habit. When I go into a room

575
00:29:22.480 --> 00:29:24.599
<v Speaker 2>of people, and because I do lots of presenting, and

576
00:29:24.640 --> 00:29:26.480
<v Speaker 2>I say, and I know we're going to talk about

577
00:29:26.480 --> 00:29:29.720
<v Speaker 2>habits because I know how incredibly important they are. You know,

578
00:29:29.799 --> 00:29:31.960
<v Speaker 2>about forty percent of what most of us do every

579
00:29:32.000 --> 00:29:34.920
<v Speaker 2>single day is on auto pilot. They are the habits

580
00:29:34.960 --> 00:29:37.400
<v Speaker 2>that we have. If you think about brushing your teeth

581
00:29:37.400 --> 00:29:39.480
<v Speaker 2>this morning, and let's assume we all brushed our teeth

582
00:29:39.480 --> 00:29:42.599
<v Speaker 2>this morning, but your routine of brushing your teeth, what

583
00:29:42.640 --> 00:29:44.920
<v Speaker 2>it was today is probably what it was yesterday, is

584
00:29:44.920 --> 00:29:46.799
<v Speaker 2>probably what it will be in a week's time. You know,

585
00:29:47.160 --> 00:29:49.599
<v Speaker 2>how you know whether you stand at the base and

586
00:29:49.599 --> 00:29:51.960
<v Speaker 2>whether you walk around the house looking for things, how

587
00:29:52.039 --> 00:29:55.200
<v Speaker 2>you actually go through that particular behavior, how long you

588
00:29:55.240 --> 00:29:58.640
<v Speaker 2>stand therefore, how effective a job you do, all those things.

589
00:29:58.640 --> 00:30:02.559
<v Speaker 2>So we know that our habits are great because they

590
00:30:02.599 --> 00:30:05.000
<v Speaker 2>save us from having to think. You know, I didn't

591
00:30:05.000 --> 00:30:06.880
<v Speaker 2>have to think too much about whether or not the

592
00:30:06.920 --> 00:30:09.200
<v Speaker 2>decision to brush my teeth this morning because I do

593
00:30:09.279 --> 00:30:11.880
<v Speaker 2>it on autopilot. It's a habit that I have. But

594
00:30:11.960 --> 00:30:14.079
<v Speaker 2>by the same token, we've got to be careful because

595
00:30:14.440 --> 00:30:17.160
<v Speaker 2>habits are awful because they save us from having to think,

596
00:30:17.279 --> 00:30:20.920
<v Speaker 2>so particularly in golf, there is the opportunity to bring

597
00:30:20.960 --> 00:30:26.720
<v Speaker 2>in so many habits into the game itself, and as

598
00:30:27.279 --> 00:30:30.359
<v Speaker 2>you very wisely share with the listeners or you know,

599
00:30:31.200 --> 00:30:34.799
<v Speaker 2>however many so many episodes that you've been doing this

600
00:30:34.839 --> 00:30:37.799
<v Speaker 2>for now is it is about those habits that we

601
00:30:37.880 --> 00:30:40.440
<v Speaker 2>create for ourselves because they're the bits we don't have

602
00:30:40.519 --> 00:30:43.519
<v Speaker 2>to think about. And as we get more expert at something,

603
00:30:43.839 --> 00:30:46.200
<v Speaker 2>what we're typically doing is we're just creating more habits.

604
00:30:46.519 --> 00:30:49.279
<v Speaker 2>Because the more habits you have, the more automated you

605
00:30:49.319 --> 00:30:51.960
<v Speaker 2>can make some of those things, the less thinking you

606
00:30:52.000 --> 00:30:53.880
<v Speaker 2>have to give them. You know, if anyone can remember

607
00:30:53.880 --> 00:30:56.920
<v Speaker 2>back to when they first started playing golf and you think,

608
00:30:57.000 --> 00:30:59.319
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's a cognitive sport as it is, you know,

609
00:30:59.400 --> 00:31:01.839
<v Speaker 2>like there's a lot of thinking involved in terms of

610
00:31:02.039 --> 00:31:04.480
<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of intricacies and a lot of technique

611
00:31:04.519 --> 00:31:07.599
<v Speaker 2>involved in doing it well. So when you're first starting,

612
00:31:07.680 --> 00:31:10.799
<v Speaker 2>you can feel like you're running one hundred instructions through

613
00:31:10.799 --> 00:31:13.920
<v Speaker 2>your head, which we know isn't necessarily helpful. But you know,

614
00:31:14.039 --> 00:31:17.640
<v Speaker 2>over time, some of those instructions are less necessary because

615
00:31:17.960 --> 00:31:22.119
<v Speaker 2>through routine, through repetition, but also through habit they've been created.

616
00:31:22.200 --> 00:31:26.720
<v Speaker 2>So habit acquisition is probably I think one of the

617
00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:31.400
<v Speaker 2>most important elements. It's not probably the most enticing of topics,

618
00:31:31.480 --> 00:31:33.440
<v Speaker 2>or people don't go, oh, I'm really excited to hear

619
00:31:33.440 --> 00:31:37.359
<v Speaker 2>about creating habits, but there's no doubt that in our

620
00:31:37.400 --> 00:31:40.960
<v Speaker 2>lives that becomes incredibly important. And then of course it

621
00:31:41.039 --> 00:31:43.920
<v Speaker 2>flows on to the other things that in some way

622
00:31:43.960 --> 00:31:46.240
<v Speaker 2>have nothing to do with golf, but actually have everything

623
00:31:46.240 --> 00:31:50.000
<v Speaker 2>to do with golf. Our sleep and nutrition, our hydration.

624
00:31:51.200 --> 00:31:54.000
<v Speaker 2>I live in a very warm climate, so our sun's

625
00:31:54.039 --> 00:31:56.880
<v Speaker 2>safety when we're out there playing golf and so forth.

626
00:31:56.960 --> 00:31:59.279
<v Speaker 2>So we know that all of our habits, you know,

627
00:31:59.319 --> 00:32:02.440
<v Speaker 2>our habits work about how that you know we're in

628
00:32:02.480 --> 00:32:05.400
<v Speaker 2>a stressful work environment, what habits have we created around that?

629
00:32:06.119 --> 00:32:08.440
<v Speaker 2>Or our family environment is that stressful? And then ho

630
00:32:08.519 --> 00:32:11.240
<v Speaker 2>dos that then flow on an impact? So I think

631
00:32:11.960 --> 00:32:15.720
<v Speaker 2>even though it's not the most meeting of topics or

632
00:32:15.799 --> 00:32:19.519
<v Speaker 2>maybe the most exciting ones, I would say that investing

633
00:32:19.599 --> 00:32:23.119
<v Speaker 2>some time in understanding habits and creating great habits from

634
00:32:23.160 --> 00:32:27.759
<v Speaker 2>yourself really does set up that foundation for playing great golf.

635
00:32:34.200 --> 00:32:40.279
<v Speaker 1>Joe, you're on the Golf Smarter podcast. So topics like sleep, nutrition, hydration,

636
00:32:40.720 --> 00:32:45.039
<v Speaker 1>some protection habits routines. Those are not rare to be

637
00:32:45.119 --> 00:32:49.119
<v Speaker 1>discussed on this show. And so I'm just guessing that

638
00:32:49.599 --> 00:32:53.720
<v Speaker 1>either the audience rolls their eyes at me or they

639
00:32:53.839 --> 00:32:58.279
<v Speaker 1>are in That's why they keep coming back to more,

640
00:32:58.920 --> 00:33:00.559
<v Speaker 1>because we talk about things like.

641
00:33:00.519 --> 00:33:03.359
<v Speaker 2>This absolutely, and I think it's challenging, isn't it, Because

642
00:33:03.400 --> 00:33:07.960
<v Speaker 2>I know sometimes people wish there was a quick fix

643
00:33:08.039 --> 00:33:11.200
<v Speaker 2>or wish that there was some little gadget or something

644
00:33:11.240 --> 00:33:13.960
<v Speaker 2>that we can do. And absolutely, we've got lots of

645
00:33:14.000 --> 00:33:16.640
<v Speaker 2>different skills and strategies and things that we can learn.

646
00:33:17.319 --> 00:33:21.319
<v Speaker 2>But literally the low hanging fruit, the things that's easiest

647
00:33:21.319 --> 00:33:25.200
<v Speaker 2>to pick, the things that are easiest to potentially change,

648
00:33:26.200 --> 00:33:28.519
<v Speaker 2>other things that have the biggest factor, you know. So

649
00:33:29.000 --> 00:33:32.480
<v Speaker 2>I spend a lot of time with defense personnel but

650
00:33:32.559 --> 00:33:35.720
<v Speaker 2>also with athletes looking at the topic of sleep because

651
00:33:35.759 --> 00:33:40.400
<v Speaker 2>whilst you know, excise physiologists and other specialists can give

652
00:33:40.480 --> 00:33:43.039
<v Speaker 2>us lots of great information around sleep, we also know

653
00:33:43.119 --> 00:33:46.839
<v Speaker 2>that sleep is a psychological experience, you know. So sleep

654
00:33:47.000 --> 00:33:50.559
<v Speaker 2>sleep starts with a really big decision, And the really

655
00:33:50.599 --> 00:33:53.039
<v Speaker 2>big decision is will I go to bed right now?

656
00:33:53.400 --> 00:33:55.319
<v Speaker 2>You know, it might be nine o'clock, it might be

657
00:33:55.359 --> 00:33:57.880
<v Speaker 2>ten o'clock and so forth, and there we are sitting

658
00:33:57.920 --> 00:34:01.000
<v Speaker 2>on the couch going I could go to bed right now,

659
00:34:01.160 --> 00:34:03.880
<v Speaker 2>or hey, there's one more episode of the show that

660
00:34:03.920 --> 00:34:06.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm streaming or that I'm watching, and so forth, And

661
00:34:06.359 --> 00:34:09.159
<v Speaker 2>then that's the decision point. And you know it's easy,

662
00:34:09.239 --> 00:34:12.159
<v Speaker 2>Like you know, it's easy at that point in time

663
00:34:12.280 --> 00:34:15.599
<v Speaker 2>to go, you know, like we know people know the

664
00:34:15.639 --> 00:34:17.920
<v Speaker 2>better choice. You know, we know that we're better off

665
00:34:17.960 --> 00:34:20.719
<v Speaker 2>to get more sleep. And I can say that, like,

666
00:34:21.360 --> 00:34:23.199
<v Speaker 2>you know, we're in different time zone, so it's early

667
00:34:23.199 --> 00:34:24.920
<v Speaker 2>in the morning for me, So I could tell you

668
00:34:25.000 --> 00:34:26.519
<v Speaker 2>what a great idea it'll be for me to go

669
00:34:26.559 --> 00:34:29.760
<v Speaker 2>to bed early tonight. But when I get to tonight,

670
00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:32.239
<v Speaker 2>at the end of a long day, when I'm fatigued,

671
00:34:32.320 --> 00:34:35.800
<v Speaker 2>humans struggle. Even the wisest people won't make good decisions

672
00:34:36.320 --> 00:34:39.840
<v Speaker 2>when they're tired and their glucose is low. So if

673
00:34:39.880 --> 00:34:43.039
<v Speaker 2>we want the things that make I guess pack the

674
00:34:43.039 --> 00:34:44.840
<v Speaker 2>biggest punch, if we want to put it that way,

675
00:34:44.920 --> 00:34:47.320
<v Speaker 2>or the low hanging fruit as I sometimes like to

676
00:34:47.360 --> 00:34:50.679
<v Speaker 2>describe it, is that the biggest performance enhances we have,

677
00:34:50.880 --> 00:34:54.679
<v Speaker 2>or are those elements. It's what's our nutrition been? Am

678
00:34:54.719 --> 00:34:58.000
<v Speaker 2>I rested, when did I last do some physical activity?

679
00:34:58.039 --> 00:35:01.559
<v Speaker 2>You know, those elements become incredib important and once we've

680
00:35:01.559 --> 00:35:05.599
<v Speaker 2>got those in place, then we can then we can

681
00:35:05.639 --> 00:35:07.280
<v Speaker 2>work on all the other stuff. But you know, it's

682
00:35:07.320 --> 00:35:09.599
<v Speaker 2>so much harder when we're tired, Like try doing anything

683
00:35:09.599 --> 00:35:13.039
<v Speaker 2>we're tired. It's it's such a struggle. And the other element.

684
00:35:13.079 --> 00:35:15.840
<v Speaker 2>I work a lot with teenagers, you know, I sort

685
00:35:15.840 --> 00:35:18.519
<v Speaker 2>of around that sixteen seventeen year old age group as well.

686
00:35:19.119 --> 00:35:21.840
<v Speaker 2>And if there's one thing that I can share with

687
00:35:21.880 --> 00:35:24.440
<v Speaker 2>the listeners, and I know not maybe some people are

688
00:35:24.440 --> 00:35:27.480
<v Speaker 2>listening who are sixteen seventeen, but there's certainly there's plenty

689
00:35:27.480 --> 00:35:30.559
<v Speaker 2>of people listening who were sixteen or seventeen once. And

690
00:35:31.840 --> 00:35:34.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, if this piece of information helps you in

691
00:35:34.440 --> 00:35:36.239
<v Speaker 2>that decision making at the end of the day when

692
00:35:36.280 --> 00:35:38.360
<v Speaker 2>you're deciding whether or not to go to bed. There

693
00:35:38.440 --> 00:35:40.800
<v Speaker 2>was some research conducted a couple of years ago now

694
00:35:40.840 --> 00:35:44.920
<v Speaker 2>looking at teenage athletes, and that what that research particularly

695
00:35:45.000 --> 00:35:48.599
<v Speaker 2>looked at is that those athletes who averaged under seven

696
00:35:48.639 --> 00:35:52.000
<v Speaker 2>hours sleeper night increase their risk of injury over the

697
00:35:52.039 --> 00:35:57.000
<v Speaker 2>next twenty one months by seventy percent. So, you know,

698
00:35:57.639 --> 00:35:59.920
<v Speaker 2>as golfers One of the things we want to do

699
00:36:00.159 --> 00:36:02.519
<v Speaker 2>is we want to avoid our risk of injury. If

700
00:36:02.559 --> 00:36:05.239
<v Speaker 2>we want to lower our risk of injury, lots of

701
00:36:05.280 --> 00:36:07.360
<v Speaker 2>things you can do. You would have had lots of

702
00:36:07.400 --> 00:36:09.480
<v Speaker 2>experts over the years and lots of advice Fred that

703
00:36:09.519 --> 00:36:13.719
<v Speaker 2>you give around injury prevention for people. But one of

704
00:36:13.760 --> 00:36:15.320
<v Speaker 2>the biggest things you can do is go to bed,

705
00:36:15.800 --> 00:36:18.239
<v Speaker 2>don't be tired. You know, when we're fatigued, we increase

706
00:36:18.239 --> 00:36:20.039
<v Speaker 2>our risk of injury. And I know that that's not

707
00:36:20.119 --> 00:36:22.760
<v Speaker 2>the bright and shiny advice that sometimes people look for,

708
00:36:22.840 --> 00:36:25.840
<v Speaker 2>but sometimes it is that. You know, it's that stuff

709
00:36:25.880 --> 00:36:28.880
<v Speaker 2>that we know, and it's just such a great way

710
00:36:28.920 --> 00:36:31.159
<v Speaker 2>to set ourselves up. If you want to get closer

711
00:36:31.159 --> 00:36:33.480
<v Speaker 2>to your goals, whatever they might be, if you want

712
00:36:33.519 --> 00:36:38.440
<v Speaker 2>to get closer to higher performance, fulfilling those factors sleep, nutrition,

713
00:36:39.719 --> 00:36:43.039
<v Speaker 2>and fiscal activity are They're really powerful things that we

714
00:36:43.119 --> 00:36:46.480
<v Speaker 2>have at our disposal that we can do every single

715
00:36:46.559 --> 00:36:48.440
<v Speaker 2>day that will help us.

716
00:36:49.360 --> 00:36:54.199
<v Speaker 1>I am so guilty. I get I you know, after

717
00:36:54.280 --> 00:36:56.119
<v Speaker 1>my wife goes to sleep, I'm like, yeah, I'll be

718
00:36:56.159 --> 00:36:58.000
<v Speaker 1>there in a few minutes, and then I turn on

719
00:36:58.079 --> 00:37:02.679
<v Speaker 1>YouTube and it's hours later that I come to bed

720
00:37:02.840 --> 00:37:05.840
<v Speaker 1>and it's like every you know, it's like, oh, this

721
00:37:05.880 --> 00:37:08.400
<v Speaker 1>one's under ten minutes, I'll just watch this one. Yeah,

722
00:37:08.440 --> 00:37:10.400
<v Speaker 1>it's good. O. Wait, oh here's a six minute when

723
00:37:10.440 --> 00:37:12.880
<v Speaker 1>I can do that? Oh, fifteen minutes, that's way too long.

724
00:37:12.920 --> 00:37:17.159
<v Speaker 1>I can watch that video. And I spend hours on

725
00:37:17.199 --> 00:37:19.320
<v Speaker 1>YouTube when I should be going to sleep, and I

726
00:37:19.400 --> 00:37:21.440
<v Speaker 1>know I should be going to sleep, and it's like,

727
00:37:22.440 --> 00:37:24.599
<v Speaker 1>how did it become eleven thirty all of a sudden?

728
00:37:24.719 --> 00:37:25.800
<v Speaker 1>Why am I still here?

729
00:37:26.679 --> 00:37:29.239
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely? And part of that Fred, Part of that Fred

730
00:37:29.320 --> 00:37:32.239
<v Speaker 2>is you know you're making a choice. But part of it,

731
00:37:32.280 --> 00:37:34.920
<v Speaker 2>the other reason that makes it harder, it's a harder

732
00:37:35.039 --> 00:37:38.199
<v Speaker 2>choice is because you're tired. And when we're tied, like

733
00:37:38.400 --> 00:37:40.880
<v Speaker 2>to be honest, and I'm probably going to sound a

734
00:37:40.880 --> 00:37:42.639
<v Speaker 2>bit logical as i say this, but if I think

735
00:37:42.679 --> 00:37:45.679
<v Speaker 2>about my reality, if it's in the evening and I'm

736
00:37:45.719 --> 00:37:48.760
<v Speaker 2>sitting on my couch and I'm watching some TV, it

737
00:37:48.840 --> 00:37:51.599
<v Speaker 2>is so much harder to get up, turn off the lights,

738
00:37:51.639 --> 00:37:53.920
<v Speaker 2>put the cat out, shut the door, go and brush

739
00:37:53.960 --> 00:37:56.599
<v Speaker 2>my teeth. Climbing, you know, get into my pajamas, climb

740
00:37:56.599 --> 00:37:58.840
<v Speaker 2>into bed. That's so much work. I don't even have

741
00:37:58.880 --> 00:38:01.480
<v Speaker 2>to press next episode anymore on my remote because the

742
00:38:01.480 --> 00:38:04.679
<v Speaker 2>streaming channel I used just flipped straight into the next episode,

743
00:38:04.719 --> 00:38:08.480
<v Speaker 2>So no effort to get off the coat couch. But

744
00:38:08.679 --> 00:38:11.000
<v Speaker 2>getting up and going to bed is work. So I've

745
00:38:11.039 --> 00:38:13.840
<v Speaker 2>got one little handy hint that worked for has worked

746
00:38:13.840 --> 00:38:15.599
<v Speaker 2>for a number of people that I work with over

747
00:38:15.599 --> 00:38:18.159
<v Speaker 2>the years, is and most people. The other trap is

748
00:38:18.239 --> 00:38:20.599
<v Speaker 2>that most people have got their phone close by, so

749
00:38:20.679 --> 00:38:24.360
<v Speaker 2>let's use our phone for good rather than for less good.

750
00:38:24.760 --> 00:38:27.000
<v Speaker 2>And if I can, one suggestion that I found work

751
00:38:27.119 --> 00:38:29.440
<v Speaker 2>for some people is to set your alarm clock to

752
00:38:29.559 --> 00:38:34.360
<v Speaker 2>go to bed, so you know that life, all life

753
00:38:34.360 --> 00:38:36.360
<v Speaker 2>would be improved if you went. And I'll make it

754
00:38:36.440 --> 00:38:38.119
<v Speaker 2>up if you know that you'd be better off if

755
00:38:38.159 --> 00:38:41.280
<v Speaker 2>you were heading to bed at ten pm, then set

756
00:38:41.280 --> 00:38:43.840
<v Speaker 2>the alarm for ten pm. And when the alarm goes off,

757
00:38:44.199 --> 00:38:46.199
<v Speaker 2>and this is what I talk about. I talk about

758
00:38:46.199 --> 00:38:49.440
<v Speaker 2>habit stacking and how to do that. In chapter three

759
00:38:49.480 --> 00:38:52.559
<v Speaker 2>in the book, the tap was called success on Autopilot,

760
00:38:52.559 --> 00:38:55.159
<v Speaker 2>but it's really about when the alarm goes off, then

761
00:38:55.199 --> 00:38:59.159
<v Speaker 2>I go to bed. And I think the curiosity that

762
00:38:59.159 --> 00:39:01.880
<v Speaker 2>we were talking about from chapter two that if you

763
00:39:02.000 --> 00:39:06.320
<v Speaker 2>can do that and say, well, look, it's not that

764
00:39:06.360 --> 00:39:09.480
<v Speaker 2>I have to go to bed early forever. But let's

765
00:39:09.559 --> 00:39:11.239
<v Speaker 2>try it for a month and see how I go.

766
00:39:11.360 --> 00:39:14.480
<v Speaker 2>Let's treat myself like a little science experiment, and I'm

767
00:39:14.480 --> 00:39:16.760
<v Speaker 2>going to try one or two little changes. Please don't

768
00:39:16.800 --> 00:39:19.280
<v Speaker 2>try lots of changes, because it's way too much for

769
00:39:19.280 --> 00:39:22.119
<v Speaker 2>our brains, and our heads explode when we do things

770
00:39:22.159 --> 00:39:24.840
<v Speaker 2>like that. You know, I'm a very big fan that

771
00:39:24.920 --> 00:39:27.679
<v Speaker 2>little by little, a little will become a lot. So

772
00:39:28.000 --> 00:39:30.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, just making a small if you can. And

773
00:39:30.840 --> 00:39:33.000
<v Speaker 2>I remember a soldier I worked with who brought his

774
00:39:33.079 --> 00:39:35.360
<v Speaker 2>bedtime forward by about an hour and a half because

775
00:39:35.360 --> 00:39:37.800
<v Speaker 2>he was staying up close to midnight, and I think

776
00:39:37.880 --> 00:39:40.039
<v Speaker 2>I think he changed his bedtime to about ten. He

777
00:39:40.119 --> 00:39:43.119
<v Speaker 2>said his first week was not fun because his body

778
00:39:43.199 --> 00:39:45.280
<v Speaker 2>just couldn't adjust and it took a little while. But

779
00:39:45.320 --> 00:39:48.719
<v Speaker 2>then after that he was waking up without his alarm clock,

780
00:39:48.800 --> 00:39:52.119
<v Speaker 2>he was feeling like exercise in the morning, he'd pack

781
00:39:52.199 --> 00:39:54.559
<v Speaker 2>his lunch and go to work. He was saving money,

782
00:39:54.880 --> 00:39:57.239
<v Speaker 2>like all these flow on effects, all because as he

783
00:39:57.280 --> 00:39:59.800
<v Speaker 2>went to bed a bit earlier, So it could be

784
00:39:59.800 --> 00:40:02.000
<v Speaker 2>how so, I'd say, if you're not sure, if you're

785
00:40:02.000 --> 00:40:04.079
<v Speaker 2>a bit doubtful, maybe give it a little try and

786
00:40:04.079 --> 00:40:04.719
<v Speaker 2>see how you go.

787
00:40:05.880 --> 00:40:08.400
<v Speaker 1>My wife is has got the skill that I wish

788
00:40:08.480 --> 00:40:11.000
<v Speaker 1>I could do, and that just she falls asleep while

789
00:40:11.000 --> 00:40:14.239
<v Speaker 1>we're watching TV right there on the couch. She'll just

790
00:40:14.239 --> 00:40:17.039
<v Speaker 1>fall asleep and I'll and then I'll watch for another

791
00:40:17.079 --> 00:40:19.039
<v Speaker 1>couple of hours and then I'll go get ready for

792
00:40:19.119 --> 00:40:21.400
<v Speaker 1>then I'll come out. Go Okay, it's time to go

793
00:40:21.440 --> 00:40:25.519
<v Speaker 1>to bed now, girls like she just just stumbles into

794
00:40:25.519 --> 00:40:26.119
<v Speaker 1>bed like.

795
00:40:26.159 --> 00:40:28.960
<v Speaker 2>Ah, that lucky. You keep power, that's for sure.

796
00:40:29.480 --> 00:40:33.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, definitely superpower. You got any more of you know,

797
00:40:33.880 --> 00:40:35.880
<v Speaker 1>we don't have to do all ten obviously we want

798
00:40:35.880 --> 00:40:39.800
<v Speaker 1>people to buy the book. But let's uh, let's let's

799
00:40:39.800 --> 00:40:41.079
<v Speaker 1>do one or two more.

800
00:40:41.480 --> 00:40:46.559
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So let's do uh. I think that one of

801
00:40:46.599 --> 00:40:51.719
<v Speaker 2>the other things that I've always understood to be true

802
00:40:51.960 --> 00:40:55.320
<v Speaker 2>is that part of what helps with success in terms

803
00:40:55.639 --> 00:40:59.360
<v Speaker 2>of apperforms. So let's let's go. I've got to to

804
00:40:59.480 --> 00:41:03.039
<v Speaker 2>in mind that we could do. First of all, in gratitude.

805
00:41:03.719 --> 00:41:06.079
<v Speaker 2>Gratitude is one of those things now, So gratitude get

806
00:41:06.119 --> 00:41:11.119
<v Speaker 2>spoken of a lot, and often gratitude is spoken about

807
00:41:11.159 --> 00:41:15.039
<v Speaker 2>because there is a considerable amount of evidence that tells

808
00:41:15.119 --> 00:41:17.679
<v Speaker 2>us that when we look at happiness in people lots

809
00:41:17.679 --> 00:41:21.320
<v Speaker 2>of things that can make us happy. But when we

810
00:41:21.360 --> 00:41:24.199
<v Speaker 2>look at the biggest predictors of happiness, the two biggest

811
00:41:24.199 --> 00:41:27.159
<v Speaker 2>predictors of happiness, ay, they're great, they're free, and they're

812
00:41:27.199 --> 00:41:30.760
<v Speaker 2>easily at our disposal. It's been grateful and it's helping

813
00:41:30.800 --> 00:41:32.960
<v Speaker 2>other people. Those are the two biggest things that we

814
00:41:33.000 --> 00:41:34.920
<v Speaker 2>can do that will just if you simply want to

815
00:41:35.440 --> 00:41:37.519
<v Speaker 2>let's even put the golf to one side for a moment,

816
00:41:37.760 --> 00:41:39.639
<v Speaker 2>but if you simply want to be happier in your life,

817
00:41:40.000 --> 00:41:41.920
<v Speaker 2>be grateful for the things that you have and be

818
00:41:42.000 --> 00:41:44.000
<v Speaker 2>grateful to the people around you. So we know that

819
00:41:44.159 --> 00:41:47.719
<v Speaker 2>for sure, and there's in Australia and I'm sure it's

820
00:41:47.920 --> 00:41:50.960
<v Speaker 2>similar in other places in the world. You know, gratitude

821
00:41:51.239 --> 00:41:54.519
<v Speaker 2>as an intervention, if you like, is actually taught in

822
00:41:54.559 --> 00:41:57.559
<v Speaker 2>the schools. It's part of we run what's called positive

823
00:41:57.679 --> 00:42:00.679
<v Speaker 2>education programs, the science what goes well, and so we're

824
00:42:00.719 --> 00:42:04.280
<v Speaker 2>trying to teach children that being grateful is a great

825
00:42:04.400 --> 00:42:06.440
<v Speaker 2>way to start your day, it's a great rape feel

826
00:42:06.440 --> 00:42:08.599
<v Speaker 2>good about yourself. And there's lots of evidence around how

827
00:42:08.639 --> 00:42:12.440
<v Speaker 2>that helps in sort of many mental health conditions and

828
00:42:12.480 --> 00:42:14.440
<v Speaker 2>so forth. We know it has an impact for people

829
00:42:14.480 --> 00:42:18.639
<v Speaker 2>with multi moderate depression. So gratitude is just a winner anyway,

830
00:42:18.840 --> 00:42:20.960
<v Speaker 2>just in terms of making us happier within our lies.

831
00:42:21.639 --> 00:42:25.000
<v Speaker 2>But here's the extra little bit of bonus to those

832
00:42:25.000 --> 00:42:27.039
<v Speaker 2>of us that are athletes or those of us work

833
00:42:27.079 --> 00:42:30.000
<v Speaker 2>with athletes. Is what we're seeing now in the research

834
00:42:30.199 --> 00:42:34.360
<v Speaker 2>is there is also evidence to support the idea that

835
00:42:34.480 --> 00:42:39.480
<v Speaker 2>grateful athletes, grateful coaches, grateful teams perform better. So we're

836
00:42:39.519 --> 00:42:42.920
<v Speaker 2>actually seeing gratitude as a performance enhancer. So it was

837
00:42:43.079 --> 00:42:45.320
<v Speaker 2>enough in the first place that it makes you happier,

838
00:42:45.800 --> 00:42:49.199
<v Speaker 2>but what it does is it gets us closer to success.

839
00:42:49.719 --> 00:42:53.400
<v Speaker 2>So if you have two golfers who are similar in

840
00:42:53.480 --> 00:42:56.599
<v Speaker 2>levels of ability, but one of them walks through life

841
00:42:56.760 --> 00:42:59.440
<v Speaker 2>with a lens of gratitude and says, you know, how

842
00:42:59.480 --> 00:43:02.320
<v Speaker 2>great that you know, isn't it wonderful that I get

843
00:43:02.320 --> 00:43:04.760
<v Speaker 2>to play on this course, that I have the time

844
00:43:04.800 --> 00:43:08.039
<v Speaker 2>to do it, that I have the resources to play, that,

845
00:43:08.159 --> 00:43:10.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, because golf is not the cheapest of sports.

846
00:43:10.559 --> 00:43:13.199
<v Speaker 2>You know that I'm financially in a way that I'm

847
00:43:13.239 --> 00:43:16.519
<v Speaker 2>able to do this and spend this time. How fortunate

848
00:43:16.599 --> 00:43:19.039
<v Speaker 2>am I? And I'm in this? And usually I don't

849
00:43:19.079 --> 00:43:20.760
<v Speaker 2>think I'll beat to too many golf courses where it's

850
00:43:20.800 --> 00:43:23.960
<v Speaker 2>not a pretty place to look around and so forth

851
00:43:24.000 --> 00:43:26.639
<v Speaker 2>as well. So how good is that? And if you

852
00:43:26.679 --> 00:43:32.000
<v Speaker 2>can play that mindset to someone who by defaults and

853
00:43:32.360 --> 00:43:35.239
<v Speaker 2>the way I people often say to me, why is that, Joe?

854
00:43:35.280 --> 00:43:37.559
<v Speaker 2>Why do you think gratitude is performance enhancer? And I

855
00:43:37.559 --> 00:43:39.960
<v Speaker 2>think there's probably a couple of reasons. But one of

856
00:43:39.960 --> 00:43:44.039
<v Speaker 2>the reasons is that, you know, have you ever met

857
00:43:44.079 --> 00:43:48.440
<v Speaker 2>a grateful winder or a grateful complainer? You haven't, as

858
00:43:48.440 --> 00:43:51.360
<v Speaker 2>it's very you cannot be great. There's not many things

859
00:43:51.400 --> 00:43:53.679
<v Speaker 2>that can't do coexist and do, but you cannot be

860
00:43:53.760 --> 00:43:56.639
<v Speaker 2>grateful and complain at the same time. Like those two

861
00:43:56.639 --> 00:43:59.960
<v Speaker 2>things do not go hand in hand. Try it now,

862
00:44:00.079 --> 00:44:03.880
<v Speaker 2>but I've never seen it. It's okay complaining and whinging,

863
00:44:04.159 --> 00:44:07.760
<v Speaker 2>getting on what I call the complain train. You know, well,

864
00:44:08.039 --> 00:44:10.599
<v Speaker 2>my shots are terrible today, and I can't believe that

865
00:44:10.639 --> 00:44:12.760
<v Speaker 2>it's cloudy and it's a bit hotter than I thought,

866
00:44:13.000 --> 00:44:15.679
<v Speaker 2>and you know, the greens are too short or they're

867
00:44:15.679 --> 00:44:17.840
<v Speaker 2>too long, and they're da da da da daha, and

868
00:44:17.920 --> 00:44:20.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, and people in front are too slow, and

869
00:44:21.480 --> 00:44:24.880
<v Speaker 2>there's people going quickly too quickly behind us and all

870
00:44:24.880 --> 00:44:27.280
<v Speaker 2>that sort of stuff. Well, that already sounds like the

871
00:44:27.320 --> 00:44:28.920
<v Speaker 2>sort of person I don't really want to spend a

872
00:44:28.920 --> 00:44:32.280
<v Speaker 2>couple of hours with. But it also doesn't put you

873
00:44:32.360 --> 00:44:34.880
<v Speaker 2>in a mindset that sets you up to being open

874
00:44:34.960 --> 00:44:38.159
<v Speaker 2>and creative and curious, which we know of those things

875
00:44:38.199 --> 00:44:41.039
<v Speaker 2>and go help us in terms of performance. So I

876
00:44:41.119 --> 00:44:43.960
<v Speaker 2>and I think physiologically it makes a difference too. When

877
00:44:44.000 --> 00:44:47.840
<v Speaker 2>we are grateful, it's a happy place, you know. It's

878
00:44:47.880 --> 00:44:50.519
<v Speaker 2>it's almost, like I say, it's almost like an internal

879
00:44:50.519 --> 00:44:54.239
<v Speaker 2>little sigh where we relax. Whereas if I'm not grateful,

880
00:44:54.320 --> 00:44:57.320
<v Speaker 2>if I am complaining and whinging, I'm going to exaggerate

881
00:44:57.360 --> 00:44:59.599
<v Speaker 2>it for those who are watching on the YouTube. But

882
00:44:59.679 --> 00:45:02.519
<v Speaker 2>if you imagine for those who are listening, I'm scrunching

883
00:45:02.599 --> 00:45:06.599
<v Speaker 2>up my shoulders, I'm furrowing my brow, I'm scrunching my hands. Like,

884
00:45:06.960 --> 00:45:11.920
<v Speaker 2>complaining and winging is tense. So my understanding of golf is,

885
00:45:12.159 --> 00:45:14.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, you're probably not going to say, well, Joe,

886
00:45:14.440 --> 00:45:16.079
<v Speaker 2>your next shot, you go to a really good job.

887
00:45:16.079 --> 00:45:18.000
<v Speaker 2>If you completely tense up through it, you're not going

888
00:45:18.079 --> 00:45:20.880
<v Speaker 2>to tell me that. So while we're thinking to get

889
00:45:20.880 --> 00:45:23.199
<v Speaker 2>you closer to being tense rather than being relaxed. So

890
00:45:23.760 --> 00:45:26.519
<v Speaker 2>gratitude is an absolute winner for us in terms of

891
00:45:26.639 --> 00:45:27.559
<v Speaker 2>performance enhancement.

892
00:45:28.320 --> 00:45:31.400
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, and I think that's a performance enhancing drug that

893
00:45:31.519 --> 00:45:34.519
<v Speaker 1>is not in jeopardy of being banned very soon.

894
00:45:35.760 --> 00:45:39.960
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely. The thing is it's free. You can be listening

895
00:45:39.960 --> 00:45:43.039
<v Speaker 2>to this podcast and almost momentarily, you know, thinking about

896
00:45:43.039 --> 00:45:45.559
<v Speaker 2>the things that you're grateful for. You could be standing there,

897
00:45:45.800 --> 00:45:48.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, maybe you are waiting for your tea time

898
00:45:49.039 --> 00:45:52.239
<v Speaker 2>or whatever it is to start, and you could sit

899
00:45:52.280 --> 00:45:56.480
<v Speaker 2>there sort of you know, worrying about something you can't control,

900
00:45:56.559 --> 00:45:58.079
<v Speaker 2>like the speed of the people in front of you,

901
00:45:58.199 --> 00:45:59.519
<v Speaker 2>or you could go, well, this is a bit of

902
00:45:59.519 --> 00:46:01.519
<v Speaker 2>extra time on the calls, and how beautiful is this?

903
00:46:02.199 --> 00:46:06.360
<v Speaker 2>So that gratitude piece is really and yeah, I don't

904
00:46:06.360 --> 00:46:08.119
<v Speaker 2>think there's any research in it, but I'm very sure

905
00:46:08.119 --> 00:46:11.199
<v Speaker 2>that grateful people that are looking as well, so maybe

906
00:46:11.320 --> 00:46:12.360
<v Speaker 2>as that effect.

907
00:46:12.599 --> 00:46:16.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh that's that's awesome. And I wanted to just make

908
00:46:16.039 --> 00:46:19.800
<v Speaker 1>sure we cover part two of the two biggest predictors

909
00:46:19.800 --> 00:46:22.440
<v Speaker 1>of happiness and you and let's go to part two

910
00:46:22.440 --> 00:46:22.679
<v Speaker 1>on that.

911
00:46:23.079 --> 00:46:25.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so part two on that is helping others. So

912
00:46:25.679 --> 00:46:30.320
<v Speaker 2>we do know that when we lean in literally to others.

913
00:46:30.719 --> 00:46:34.159
<v Speaker 2>When we do things to make lives for others better

914
00:46:34.280 --> 00:46:36.920
<v Speaker 2>or improved, or we assist them in some sort of way,

915
00:46:37.360 --> 00:46:39.599
<v Speaker 2>not only does that person get the benefit of us

916
00:46:39.679 --> 00:46:42.760
<v Speaker 2>about help and assistance, which is a great enough reason

917
00:46:42.800 --> 00:46:45.480
<v Speaker 2>to do it, but we also need to understand that

918
00:46:45.559 --> 00:46:49.159
<v Speaker 2>it flows back to us. It feels good to help others.

919
00:46:49.199 --> 00:46:51.440
<v Speaker 2>There's a little dope mein kick that comes with it,

920
00:46:51.840 --> 00:46:53.679
<v Speaker 2>and that fits in with one of the chapters in

921
00:46:53.719 --> 00:46:55.440
<v Speaker 2>the book, which was going to be the second point

922
00:46:55.440 --> 00:46:56.760
<v Speaker 2>that I was going to make. And that's why those

923
00:46:56.800 --> 00:47:00.320
<v Speaker 2>two go so well hand in hand, is because we

924
00:47:00.440 --> 00:47:04.400
<v Speaker 2>know that people matter. And you know, if we're looking

925
00:47:04.400 --> 00:47:06.599
<v Speaker 2>at this in terms of our success in golf, whatever

926
00:47:06.679 --> 00:47:09.079
<v Speaker 2>that might be, or our ability to perform well in it,

927
00:47:09.079 --> 00:47:11.280
<v Speaker 2>it is based on those people who are around you.

928
00:47:11.320 --> 00:47:14.000
<v Speaker 2>Maybe part of your bolfing success is because there's other

929
00:47:14.039 --> 00:47:16.800
<v Speaker 2>people in your life that helps carry the load at home. Say, say,

930
00:47:16.800 --> 00:47:19.800
<v Speaker 2>if you've got home commitments and maybe are partners at

931
00:47:19.800 --> 00:47:23.320
<v Speaker 2>home looking after people or animals or whatever it might be,

932
00:47:23.440 --> 00:47:25.639
<v Speaker 2>or doing something in the home that enables you then

933
00:47:25.679 --> 00:47:27.519
<v Speaker 2>go and play golf, maybe you then do that in

934
00:47:27.519 --> 00:47:29.360
<v Speaker 2>return for them so that they can spend their time

935
00:47:29.400 --> 00:47:31.719
<v Speaker 2>doing the thing that brings them joy. You know, how

936
00:47:31.760 --> 00:47:35.440
<v Speaker 2>you manage your relationships is really critical to your life.

937
00:47:35.440 --> 00:47:38.760
<v Speaker 2>And we know that when we're engaging in sporting endeavor,

938
00:47:39.159 --> 00:47:41.199
<v Speaker 2>we don't do it in a silo that when we

939
00:47:41.239 --> 00:47:43.800
<v Speaker 2>could talk to others about it. And in golf, you know,

940
00:47:43.840 --> 00:47:46.639
<v Speaker 2>we've always got friends who play as well and can

941
00:47:47.159 --> 00:47:49.760
<v Speaker 2>talk for hours at a time. I guess about golf

942
00:47:49.800 --> 00:47:52.039
<v Speaker 2>and the intricacies of it and how it all works,

943
00:47:52.079 --> 00:47:55.920
<v Speaker 2>but I guess human connection is important for us just

944
00:47:56.000 --> 00:47:58.800
<v Speaker 2>as humans. But when we're playing golf, it is one

945
00:47:58.840 --> 00:48:02.280
<v Speaker 2>of those pursuits that we can really, you know, get

946
00:48:02.280 --> 00:48:04.599
<v Speaker 2>that extra benefit and in terms of what that means

947
00:48:04.639 --> 00:48:06.800
<v Speaker 2>for us in terms of our mental health and our

948
00:48:06.800 --> 00:48:10.920
<v Speaker 2>well being, that connection with others doing a shared, hopefully

949
00:48:10.960 --> 00:48:16.079
<v Speaker 2>fun activity is something that's really beneficial for us. And

950
00:48:16.119 --> 00:48:18.440
<v Speaker 2>we know that's another part of what will keep us

951
00:48:18.480 --> 00:48:19.039
<v Speaker 2>coming back.

952
00:48:20.519 --> 00:48:25.199
<v Speaker 1>Amazing. That's fabulous. Please tell us the names of the

953
00:48:25.239 --> 00:48:27.400
<v Speaker 1>books that we should go find.

954
00:48:28.119 --> 00:48:31.679
<v Speaker 2>Thank you. So I would start with the Elite. So

955
00:48:31.840 --> 00:48:36.199
<v Speaker 2>the Elite is and it's written at a sort of

956
00:48:36.239 --> 00:48:40.000
<v Speaker 2>grade ten level, So you know, so fourteen fifty from

957
00:48:40.119 --> 00:48:44.199
<v Speaker 2>age fourteen fifteen is probably a time when you could

958
00:48:44.199 --> 00:48:46.400
<v Speaker 2>be reading the book. And the nice thing about The

959
00:48:46.440 --> 00:48:48.760
<v Speaker 2>Elite is we know that people learn and read and

960
00:48:48.800 --> 00:48:50.960
<v Speaker 2>consume information in different ways. So I've got it there

961
00:48:50.960 --> 00:48:54.159
<v Speaker 2>as paperback, as an ebook, and also as an audiobook,

962
00:48:54.400 --> 00:48:56.519
<v Speaker 2>and it is actually me I did Actually it was

963
00:48:56.519 --> 00:48:58.280
<v Speaker 2>the longest weekend of my life when I did it,

964
00:48:58.320 --> 00:49:02.000
<v Speaker 2>but I recorded the audiobook that is also that was

965
00:49:02.000 --> 00:49:04.320
<v Speaker 2>also a test of perseverance. So I've got the Elite.

966
00:49:05.039 --> 00:49:07.079
<v Speaker 2>Then in twenty twenty, I wrote a book called In

967
00:49:07.119 --> 00:49:10.360
<v Speaker 2>the Grandstand and that is a parent's survival guide for

968
00:49:10.920 --> 00:49:15.159
<v Speaker 2>teen sports, so that there's lots involved in sports parenting.

969
00:49:15.199 --> 00:49:17.000
<v Speaker 2>So that was actually you can probably guess the age

970
00:49:17.000 --> 00:49:19.280
<v Speaker 2>of my own children at the time that I wrote

971
00:49:19.280 --> 00:49:23.159
<v Speaker 2>that book. I also wrote an interactive journal which is

972
00:49:23.159 --> 00:49:26.400
<v Speaker 2>called The game Plan, and the game Plan goes through

973
00:49:26.440 --> 00:49:29.239
<v Speaker 2>the five predictors of high performance, and we've actually talked

974
00:49:29.239 --> 00:49:32.719
<v Speaker 2>about some of them on the episode today. And that

975
00:49:32.880 --> 00:49:35.920
<v Speaker 2>journal is designed as I think that works best as

976
00:49:35.960 --> 00:49:39.119
<v Speaker 2>the paperbacks then you can actually write in it. But

977
00:49:39.239 --> 00:49:41.559
<v Speaker 2>what I've also put in that is I've put I

978
00:49:41.559 --> 00:49:44.079
<v Speaker 2>think there's about twenty five QR codes in there that

979
00:49:44.280 --> 00:49:48.239
<v Speaker 2>link to videos explaining concepts, so it's an extra little

980
00:49:48.239 --> 00:49:51.559
<v Speaker 2>bit of individual creating. I guess through that. Last year,

981
00:49:51.639 --> 00:49:56.719
<v Speaker 2>I wrote a book specifically for athletes and performers called Belief,

982
00:49:57.960 --> 00:50:01.280
<v Speaker 2>and that's about building unshakable confidence. So I wrote a

983
00:50:01.280 --> 00:50:06.079
<v Speaker 2>book called Belief, and if I may show it hot

984
00:50:06.119 --> 00:50:08.440
<v Speaker 2>off the press is my new book, The Whistleblower. So

985
00:50:08.599 --> 00:50:12.880
<v Speaker 2>it is a mental toughness rule book for officials, umpires,

986
00:50:12.920 --> 00:50:16.800
<v Speaker 2>and referees. So motivated by the fact that I've worked

987
00:50:16.800 --> 00:50:19.239
<v Speaker 2>with a lot of referees and officials over the years,

988
00:50:19.280 --> 00:50:22.800
<v Speaker 2>because we do know that it's a mentally challenging and

989
00:50:22.920 --> 00:50:25.880
<v Speaker 2>tough area to be in. And also it's a little

990
00:50:25.880 --> 00:50:28.159
<v Speaker 2>bit of a project of the heart because both of

991
00:50:28.199 --> 00:50:33.119
<v Speaker 2>my sons are referees in their own sports, so that's

992
00:50:33.159 --> 00:50:36.320
<v Speaker 2>what they've gone down, and well both of them have

993
00:50:36.360 --> 00:50:39.360
<v Speaker 2>actually gone down in the elite pathway in refereeing and officiating.

994
00:50:39.480 --> 00:50:42.519
<v Speaker 2>So and look, I think a few people have read

995
00:50:42.519 --> 00:50:44.559
<v Speaker 2>it and said to me, this is actually for anyone, Joe,

996
00:50:44.599 --> 00:50:46.960
<v Speaker 2>and I said, I know, but I've specifically written it

997
00:50:46.960 --> 00:50:48.920
<v Speaker 2>for referees. So if you're not a referee, I want

998
00:50:48.920 --> 00:50:50.599
<v Speaker 2>to read it, you'll just have to translate it in

999
00:50:50.639 --> 00:50:53.239
<v Speaker 2>your head. But all the principles apply. And I think

1000
00:50:53.559 --> 00:50:56.320
<v Speaker 2>that's the thing, isn't it, Fred That the mental side

1001
00:50:56.519 --> 00:51:00.320
<v Speaker 2>of what it is to play golf applies across our lives.

1002
00:51:00.559 --> 00:51:03.000
<v Speaker 2>So if we're working on our mental skills in our life,

1003
00:51:03.159 --> 00:51:05.199
<v Speaker 2>it will translate across to what's happening for us in

1004
00:51:05.239 --> 00:51:07.960
<v Speaker 2>golf as well, So it goes both ways.

1005
00:51:08.519 --> 00:51:13.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and tell us about how we can follow you

1006
00:51:12.880 --> 00:51:14.880
<v Speaker 1>or your URL and social media.

1007
00:51:15.000 --> 00:51:17.360
<v Speaker 2>Thank you. So if you can remember my name, you

1008
00:51:17.400 --> 00:51:20.679
<v Speaker 2>can find me. So it's doctor Joe lukens Jo and

1009
00:51:20.719 --> 00:51:23.760
<v Speaker 2>that's l u k i NS so I have that

1010
00:51:23.880 --> 00:51:25.719
<v Speaker 2>and I go under that for all my socials. So

1011
00:51:25.760 --> 00:51:30.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm on Facebook, LinkedIn Instagram. My children tell me I

1012
00:51:30.840 --> 00:51:35.719
<v Speaker 2>have a fairly average TikTok following. Aparently I could be

1013
00:51:35.719 --> 00:51:38.320
<v Speaker 2>better at that, So I just tell them every expert

1014
00:51:38.760 --> 00:51:40.440
<v Speaker 2>was once a beginner, and I'm still a beginner.

1015
00:51:40.960 --> 00:51:41.480
<v Speaker 1>There you go.

1016
00:51:41.679 --> 00:51:44.519
<v Speaker 2>And certainly, in terms of finding the books, they're available

1017
00:51:44.559 --> 00:51:46.639
<v Speaker 2>on all the usual platforms of books. So wherever you

1018
00:51:46.760 --> 00:51:49.119
<v Speaker 2>like to consume your books, wherever you like to get

1019
00:51:49.119 --> 00:51:52.400
<v Speaker 2>them from, maybe you've got a great indie bookstore nearby

1020
00:51:52.480 --> 00:51:54.119
<v Speaker 2>that can get them in for you. If not, some

1021
00:51:54.159 --> 00:51:57.320
<v Speaker 2>of the larger platforms can also find them for you.

1022
00:51:57.440 --> 00:51:59.719
<v Speaker 2>So Fred, thank you for allowing me to share that

1023
00:52:00.079 --> 00:52:01.000
<v Speaker 2>with the listeners.

1024
00:52:01.960 --> 00:52:05.199
<v Speaker 1>Well, thank you for sharing your knowledge and your experience

1025
00:52:05.920 --> 00:52:08.559
<v Speaker 1>and your insights with us. We really appreciate it and

1026
00:52:08.639 --> 00:52:10.800
<v Speaker 1>it was a great conversation. I really learned a lot.

1027
00:52:10.880 --> 00:52:12.199
<v Speaker 2>Thanks Grett, Thank you, Fred,