Speaker 1: Time continues to pass in the English countryside as we
Speaker 1: follow Spike, who has been apprehended by a group of
Speaker 1: sadistic murderers. The only thing that could possibly save him
Speaker 1: from a terrible fate is crossing paths with doctor Ian Kelson,
Speaker 1: who continues to build his memorial to the victims of
Speaker 1: the rage virus. It's twenty eight years later The Bone Temple.
Speaker 1: I'm Ronald Young Junior, and I'm leaving the theater. All right.
Speaker 1: This is Ronald and I am leaving the theater after
Speaker 1: seeing twenty eight years later The Bone Temple. Twenty eight
Speaker 1: years later, The Bone Temple, written by Alex Garland, directed
Speaker 1: by Nia DaCosta, starring Ray Fines, Jack O'Connell, Alfie Williams,
Speaker 1: Aaron Kellyman and g Lewis Perry, and as usual, for
Speaker 1: complete listing of the cast and crew, check out the
Speaker 1: link in our show notes. It is just me today.
Speaker 1: I reviewed twenty eight years later on my own as well,
Speaker 1: So this feels appropriate to continue the brief but serious
Speaker 1: tradition that I've established for this movie and its sequel.
Speaker 1: Only this has been Ronald. I feel a little silly today.
Speaker 1: Bear with me. Twenty eight years later the Bone Temple,
Speaker 1: and I keep calling it the Bone Zone in my head.
Speaker 1: Twenty eight years later, the Bone Zone, twenty eight years later.
Speaker 1: The Bone Temple is a sequel to last year's twenty
Speaker 1: eight years Later, which is a sequel to twenty eight
Speaker 1: weeks Later, which is a sequel to twenty eight days later.
Speaker 1: It might have been months, it might have been months.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think it's weeks. I think the
Speaker 1: second one was weeks. They still haven't done months anyway,
Speaker 1: which is the whole franchise is about this rage virus
Speaker 1: that infects people and causes them to turn into kind
Speaker 1: of zombie like creatures that go around killing, maiming, and
Speaker 1: eating everyone who does not have the rage virus. I'm
Speaker 1: not going to get too deep into the lore of
Speaker 1: all of the films. I will just talk about this one.
Speaker 1: This one of part twenty follows a young boy named
Speaker 1: Spike who was in the first film and was a
Speaker 1: part of a community and found himself separated from the
Speaker 1: community with his mother as he tried to find a
Speaker 1: cure for her cancer, and this one he is alone,
Speaker 1: and he finds himself in a situation where he is
Speaker 1: held against his will by a group called the Jimmys
Speaker 1: led by Jack O'Connell, the same Jack O'Connell who was
Speaker 1: in Centers, a man who seems to be very very
Speaker 1: good at playing these types of roles. I did not
Speaker 1: like this movie as much as I like twenty eight
Speaker 1: years later. Based on the enthusiasm of the crowd, I
Speaker 1: might be in the minority of my opinion, but I
Speaker 1: will say in the first third of the film, there
Speaker 1: is some pretty graphic violence and torture that is not
Speaker 1: zombie really. There are a couple of things that are
Speaker 1: zombie related that I felt like I was used to
Speaker 1: and because they were mindless zombies doing it to humans
Speaker 1: or to other zombies, it felt I felt pretty indifferent
Speaker 1: about that. But there's some pretty unique human on human torture.
Speaker 1: And when I say torture, I mean torture I am.
Speaker 1: I mean torture. If you're going to see this film,
Speaker 1: I need you to know that there is torture early
Speaker 1: in this movie. And when I say earlier, I mean
Speaker 1: like maybe twenty twenty five minutes, and it's it's hard.
Speaker 1: It's really really hard in a way that I'll put
Speaker 1: it this way. If you see the Jimmy's on screen
Speaker 1: in the first half of this movie, I wouldn't be eating.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be eating or anything like that. Like even
Speaker 1: if you're at I don't know, maybe you're not squeamish
Speaker 1: like I am. The torture was so bad that it
Speaker 1: it almost turned me off to the movie completely. I
Speaker 1: almost left. Whenever I see a depraved act or something
Speaker 1: that's super violent in a film, the question I always
Speaker 1: ask is why is this being shown to me? Typically
Speaker 1: you get an answer later in the film, and in
Speaker 1: this film we do get an answer. Why I don't
Speaker 1: like this type of violence is because it makes me,
Speaker 1: as an audience member, bloodthirsty in a way that I
Speaker 1: don't like to be, and in a way that I
Speaker 1: don't go to the movies four for instance, I Spit
Speaker 1: on Your Grave or The Last House on the Left.
Speaker 1: Those are films where something so heinous happens in the
Speaker 1: film that the makeup for it is even more heinous,
Speaker 1: and you, as an audience member, tend to root for
Speaker 1: it in ways that just it makes me uncomfortable. It
Speaker 1: makes me question who I am, and especially right now
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty six, it feels so tough to watch
Speaker 1: something like that knowing what's happening in the world right now.
Speaker 1: That's not why I go to the movies. So the
Speaker 1: first third of this is just it's it really almost
Speaker 1: turned me off, and then it it gets better in
Speaker 1: the and I'd say like first third through the middle
Speaker 1: is ugh, like oh no, and then middle through the end.
Speaker 1: And the movie is only about an hour and forty
Speaker 1: five minutes, which excellent. If you're gonna do this to me,
Speaker 1: make sure you turn it around quickly. There's a storyline
Speaker 1: with the Jimmys, and there's a storyline with the doctor
Speaker 1: Ray Fines, and the storyline with the doctor. From beginning
Speaker 1: to end, I really enjoyed every aspect of it. I
Speaker 1: really liked it. I thought it was very good. The
Speaker 1: storyline with the Jimmies I did not enjoy as much.
Speaker 1: And I think they could have gotten to their point
Speaker 1: quicker in a lot of ways. Even the ways in
Speaker 1: which the Jimmy storyline and the doctor storyline intertwine didn't
Speaker 1: necessarily feel like it needed to go down that way.
Speaker 1: It felt like there could have been another way for
Speaker 1: them to get to their point. Still, I talked to
Speaker 1: some of my colleagues after the film, which is always
Speaker 1: kind of cool to have a little conversation before I
Speaker 1: go record, because it allows me to organize my thoughts
Speaker 1: a little bit better in conversation. And there were varied
Speaker 1: opinions about what we had just seen. And I think
Speaker 1: for my friend Mike, Mike Katzif from Pop Culture Happy Hour,
Speaker 1: he is one of the producers over there, he pointed
Speaker 1: out some a few things about this film that for me,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I agree with, but I do
Speaker 1: want to acknowledge that people will see it that way,
Speaker 1: and that is that there's a sense of cult leaderishness
Speaker 1: to one of the lead to the leader of the
Speaker 1: Jimmy's I'm sorry. So the Jimmies are this band of
Speaker 1: kind of roving band of killers that roam the countryside, hurting,
Speaker 1: maiming and torturing people. They do not have the rage,
Speaker 1: they do not have the rage virus. They are just
Speaker 1: doing this for fun. It's one of the most upsetting
Speaker 1: parts of the film. And his take on it was
Speaker 1: a little bit different from mine. His take was that
Speaker 1: this idea that this little boy who watched his father
Speaker 1: die and watched his community be killed by these people
Speaker 1: with the rage virus would have an e fed up
Speaker 1: mentality he was eight twenty eight years later, so he's
Speaker 1: thirty six now, so it's gonna be he's gonna have
Speaker 1: a messed up mind. But I felt like the movie
Speaker 1: didn't necessarily prove that point because there were several instances
Speaker 1: in which we know that Jimmy is feeding his acolytes
Speaker 1: as followers, as cult members, his church members, his congregation.
Speaker 1: I know he's feeding them nonsense. And because I know
Speaker 1: he's feeding them nonsense, it's tougher for me to believe
Speaker 1: that he's actually warped in that he's been deceived. He
Speaker 1: has not been deceive. He is choosing to do this
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, and I need to know what that
Speaker 1: motivation is, because the one that you've given me, we
Speaker 1: already know that it's nonsense. So I don't buy it
Speaker 1: for that reason. But again, there's another whole movie in
Speaker 1: here that I like, which is the doctor who is
Speaker 1: gathering bodies, burning the dead, collecting their bones and kind
Speaker 1: of making a bit of a graveyard, as he calls
Speaker 1: it in this one, and it's I think calling this
Speaker 1: movie the Bone Temple was a bad idea because most
Speaker 1: of what the Bone Temple is is explained in twenty
Speaker 1: eight years later in the first one of these two.
Speaker 1: In this one, the story does not revolve around the
Speaker 1: Bone Temple. It does not. There are some parts in
Speaker 1: the preview that you've seen, and there's parts in the
Speaker 1: poster that are prominently displaying the Bone Temple which make
Speaker 1: the movie poster and the trailer work. But and in
Speaker 1: terms of the movie, I don't think it worked because
Speaker 1: it's not about the Bone Temple at all. We already
Speaker 1: know what it is if you watch twenty eight years later.
Speaker 1: There's nothing more about the Bone Temple and this one
Speaker 1: that is that important to this film that it needed
Speaker 1: to be needed to be called that. As a matter
Speaker 1: of fact, I remember watching twenty eight years Later and
Speaker 1: learning so much about the Bone Temple that I began
Speaker 1: to wonder what the second movie was going to be about.
Speaker 1: And boy, I could have never guessed it, to be
Speaker 1: honest with you, because as far as I'm concerned, twenty
Speaker 1: eight years Later was twenty eight years later the Bone Temple,
Speaker 1: and this one was just a sequel and back to
Speaker 1: the Bone Temple. I don't know return to I have
Speaker 1: no idea, but yeah, I mean it's y'all heard my
Speaker 1: Top ten twenty eight years Later was one of my
Speaker 1: favorite movies of twenty twenty five. It was one of
Speaker 1: my favorite movies of twenty twenty five. I think it
Speaker 1: was number ten. If I'm not mistaken, This one I
Speaker 1: don't think will make it that high. I don't think
Speaker 1: it's going to be one of the top ten this
Speaker 1: not this year. I think it is going to be beloved,
Speaker 1: and I think it's going to make enough money to
Speaker 1: get the third one made. However, I just don't think it.
Speaker 1: It's just not as good as the first one. And
Speaker 1: there's aspects of it that are good and other parts
Speaker 1: that I were almost reprehensible for me. But that being said,
Speaker 1: how do you score a movie like this? I would
Speaker 1: watch it again. I would absolutely watch it again. The
Speaker 1: parts that I enjoyed, I really really enjoyed. I love
Speaker 1: Ray Fines. I would watch it again. I would not
Speaker 1: go to the theater. I mean I would watch it
Speaker 1: on my couch at home. Let's say I was with
Speaker 1: someone and they were like, Oh, I haven't seen this one.
Speaker 1: You want to see it. I'm like, I'll watch it.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you yes. So for that reason, with all
Speaker 1: of that being said, I will give this film a
Speaker 1: three point five. It's not a four star movie by
Speaker 1: any means. Liked it more than I like Avatar, Fire
Speaker 1: and Ash, which I gave a three two. Liked it
Speaker 1: way more than I like Marty Supreme, which I gave
Speaker 1: a two point nine to nine to two. Uh So, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's a three point five movie. I'd watch
Speaker 1: it again. There's parts of it that I enjoyed. Uh
Speaker 1: but there's parts of it that I would yet into
Speaker 1: the ocean, never to be seen ever again. And with that,
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