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<v Speaker 1>Time continues to pass in the English countryside as we

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<v Speaker 1>follow Spike, who has been apprehended by a group of

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<v Speaker 1>sadistic murderers. The only thing that could possibly save him

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<v Speaker 1>from a terrible fate is crossing paths with doctor Ian Kelson,

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<v Speaker 1>who continues to build his memorial to the victims of

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<v Speaker 1>the rage virus. It's twenty eight years later The Bone Temple.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Ronald Young Junior, and I'm leaving the theater. All right.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Ronald and I am leaving the theater after

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<v Speaker 1>seeing twenty eight years later The Bone Temple. Twenty eight

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<v Speaker 1>years later, The Bone Temple, written by Alex Garland, directed

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<v Speaker 1>by Nia DaCosta, starring Ray Fines, Jack O'Connell, Alfie Williams,

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron Kellyman and g Lewis Perry, and as usual, for

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<v Speaker 1>complete listing of the cast and crew, check out the

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<v Speaker 1>link in our show notes. It is just me today.

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<v Speaker 1>I reviewed twenty eight years later on my own as well,

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<v Speaker 1>So this feels appropriate to continue the brief but serious

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<v Speaker 1>tradition that I've established for this movie and its sequel.

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<v Speaker 1>Only this has been Ronald. I feel a little silly today.

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<v Speaker 1>Bear with me. Twenty eight years later the Bone Temple,

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<v Speaker 1>and I keep calling it the Bone Zone in my head.

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty eight years later, the Bone Zone, twenty eight years later.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bone Temple is a sequel to last year's twenty

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<v Speaker 1>eight years Later, which is a sequel to twenty eight

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<v Speaker 1>weeks Later, which is a sequel to twenty eight days later.

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<v Speaker 1>It might have been months, it might have been months.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I think it's weeks. I think the

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<v Speaker 1>second one was weeks. They still haven't done months anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the whole franchise is about this rage virus

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<v Speaker 1>that infects people and causes them to turn into kind

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<v Speaker 1>of zombie like creatures that go around killing, maiming, and

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<v Speaker 1>eating everyone who does not have the rage virus. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not going to get too deep into the lore of

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<v Speaker 1>all of the films. I will just talk about this one.

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<v Speaker 1>This one of part twenty follows a young boy named

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<v Speaker 1>Spike who was in the first film and was a

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<v Speaker 1>part of a community and found himself separated from the

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<v Speaker 1>community with his mother as he tried to find a

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<v Speaker 1>cure for her cancer, and this one he is alone,

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<v Speaker 1>and he finds himself in a situation where he is

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<v Speaker 1>held against his will by a group called the Jimmys

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<v Speaker 1>led by Jack O'Connell, the same Jack O'Connell who was

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<v Speaker 1>in Centers, a man who seems to be very very

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<v Speaker 1>good at playing these types of roles. I did not

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<v Speaker 1>like this movie as much as I like twenty eight

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<v Speaker 1>years later. Based on the enthusiasm of the crowd, I

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<v Speaker 1>might be in the minority of my opinion, but I

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<v Speaker 1>will say in the first third of the film, there

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<v Speaker 1>is some pretty graphic violence and torture that is not

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<v Speaker 1>zombie really. There are a couple of things that are

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<v Speaker 1>zombie related that I felt like I was used to

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<v Speaker 1>and because they were mindless zombies doing it to humans

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<v Speaker 1>or to other zombies, it felt I felt pretty indifferent

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<v Speaker 1>about that. But there's some pretty unique human on human torture.

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<v Speaker 1>And when I say torture, I mean torture I am.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean torture. If you're going to see this film,

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<v Speaker 1>I need you to know that there is torture early

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<v Speaker 1>in this movie. And when I say earlier, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>like maybe twenty twenty five minutes, and it's it's hard.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really really hard in a way that I'll put

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<v Speaker 1>it this way. If you see the Jimmy's on screen

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<v Speaker 1>in the first half of this movie, I wouldn't be eating.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't be eating or anything like that. Like even

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<v Speaker 1>if you're at I don't know, maybe you're not squeamish

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<v Speaker 1>like I am. The torture was so bad that it

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<v Speaker 1>it almost turned me off to the movie completely. I

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<v Speaker 1>almost left. Whenever I see a depraved act or something

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<v Speaker 1>that's super violent in a film, the question I always

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<v Speaker 1>ask is why is this being shown to me? Typically

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<v Speaker 1>you get an answer later in the film, and in

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<v Speaker 1>this film we do get an answer. Why I don't

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<v Speaker 1>like this type of violence is because it makes me,

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<v Speaker 1>as an audience member, bloodthirsty in a way that I

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<v Speaker 1>don't like to be, and in a way that I

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<v Speaker 1>don't go to the movies four for instance, I Spit

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<v Speaker 1>on Your Grave or The Last House on the Left.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are films where something so heinous happens in the

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<v Speaker 1>film that the makeup for it is even more heinous,

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<v Speaker 1>and you, as an audience member, tend to root for

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<v Speaker 1>it in ways that just it makes me uncomfortable. It

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<v Speaker 1>makes me question who I am, and especially right now

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty six, it feels so tough to watch

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<v Speaker 1>something like that knowing what's happening in the world right now.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not why I go to the movies. So the

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<v Speaker 1>first third of this is just it's it really almost

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<v Speaker 1>turned me off, and then it it gets better in

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<v Speaker 1>the and I'd say like first third through the middle

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<v Speaker 1>is ugh, like oh no, and then middle through the end.

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<v Speaker 1>And the movie is only about an hour and forty

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<v Speaker 1>five minutes, which excellent. If you're gonna do this to me,

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<v Speaker 1>make sure you turn it around quickly. There's a storyline

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<v Speaker 1>with the Jimmys, and there's a storyline with the doctor

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<v Speaker 1>Ray Fines, and the storyline with the doctor. From beginning

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<v Speaker 1>to end, I really enjoyed every aspect of it. I

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<v Speaker 1>really liked it. I thought it was very good. The

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<v Speaker 1>storyline with the Jimmies I did not enjoy as much.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think they could have gotten to their point

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<v Speaker 1>quicker in a lot of ways. Even the ways in

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<v Speaker 1>which the Jimmy storyline and the doctor storyline intertwine didn't

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily feel like it needed to go down that way.

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<v Speaker 1>It felt like there could have been another way for

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<v Speaker 1>them to get to their point. Still, I talked to

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<v Speaker 1>some of my colleagues after the film, which is always

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<v Speaker 1>kind of cool to have a little conversation before I

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<v Speaker 1>go record, because it allows me to organize my thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit better in conversation. And there were varied

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<v Speaker 1>opinions about what we had just seen. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>for my friend Mike, Mike Katzif from Pop Culture Happy Hour,

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<v Speaker 1>he is one of the producers over there, he pointed

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<v Speaker 1>out some a few things about this film that for me,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I agree with, but I do

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<v Speaker 1>want to acknowledge that people will see it that way,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is that there's a sense of cult leaderishness

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<v Speaker 1>to one of the lead to the leader of the

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<v Speaker 1>Jimmy's I'm sorry. So the Jimmies are this band of

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<v Speaker 1>kind of roving band of killers that roam the countryside, hurting,

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<v Speaker 1>maiming and torturing people. They do not have the rage,

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<v Speaker 1>they do not have the rage virus. They are just

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<v Speaker 1>doing this for fun. It's one of the most upsetting

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<v Speaker 1>parts of the film. And his take on it was

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit different from mine. His take was that

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<v Speaker 1>this idea that this little boy who watched his father

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<v Speaker 1>die and watched his community be killed by these people

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<v Speaker 1>with the rage virus would have an e fed up

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<v Speaker 1>mentality he was eight twenty eight years later, so he's

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<v Speaker 1>thirty six now, so it's gonna be he's gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>a messed up mind. But I felt like the movie

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<v Speaker 1>didn't necessarily prove that point because there were several instances

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<v Speaker 1>in which we know that Jimmy is feeding his acolytes

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<v Speaker 1>as followers, as cult members, his church members, his congregation.

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<v Speaker 1>I know he's feeding them nonsense. And because I know

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<v Speaker 1>he's feeding them nonsense, it's tougher for me to believe

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<v Speaker 1>that he's actually warped in that he's been deceived. He

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<v Speaker 1>has not been deceive. He is choosing to do this

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<v Speaker 1>for whatever reason, and I need to know what that

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<v Speaker 1>motivation is, because the one that you've given me, we

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<v Speaker 1>already know that it's nonsense. So I don't buy it

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<v Speaker 1>for that reason. But again, there's another whole movie in

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<v Speaker 1>here that I like, which is the doctor who is

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<v Speaker 1>gathering bodies, burning the dead, collecting their bones and kind

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<v Speaker 1>of making a bit of a graveyard, as he calls

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<v Speaker 1>it in this one, and it's I think calling this

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<v Speaker 1>movie the Bone Temple was a bad idea because most

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<v Speaker 1>of what the Bone Temple is is explained in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>eight years later in the first one of these two.

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<v Speaker 1>In this one, the story does not revolve around the

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<v Speaker 1>Bone Temple. It does not. There are some parts in

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<v Speaker 1>the preview that you've seen, and there's parts in the

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<v Speaker 1>poster that are prominently displaying the Bone Temple which make

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<v Speaker 1>the movie poster and the trailer work. But and in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of the movie, I don't think it worked because

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<v Speaker 1>it's not about the Bone Temple at all. We already

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<v Speaker 1>know what it is if you watch twenty eight years later.

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<v Speaker 1>There's nothing more about the Bone Temple and this one

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<v Speaker 1>that is that important to this film that it needed

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<v Speaker 1>to be needed to be called that. As a matter

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<v Speaker 1>of fact, I remember watching twenty eight years Later and

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<v Speaker 1>learning so much about the Bone Temple that I began

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<v Speaker 1>to wonder what the second movie was going to be about.

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<v Speaker 1>And boy, I could have never guessed it, to be

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<v Speaker 1>honest with you, because as far as I'm concerned, twenty

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<v Speaker 1>eight years Later was twenty eight years later the Bone Temple,

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<v Speaker 1>and this one was just a sequel and back to

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<v Speaker 1>the Bone Temple. I don't know return to I have

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<v Speaker 1>no idea, but yeah, I mean it's y'all heard my

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<v Speaker 1>Top ten twenty eight years Later was one of my

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<v Speaker 1>favorite movies of twenty twenty five. It was one of

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite movies of twenty twenty five. I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was number ten. If I'm not mistaken, This one I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think will make it that high. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be one of the top ten this

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<v Speaker 1>not this year. I think it is going to be beloved,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think it's going to make enough money to

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<v Speaker 1>get the third one made. However, I just don't think it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just not as good as the first one. And

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<v Speaker 1>there's aspects of it that are good and other parts

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<v Speaker 1>that I were almost reprehensible for me. But that being said,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you score a movie like this? I would

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<v Speaker 1>watch it again. I would absolutely watch it again. The

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<v Speaker 1>parts that I enjoyed, I really really enjoyed. I love

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<v Speaker 1>Ray Fines. I would watch it again. I would not

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<v Speaker 1>go to the theater. I mean I would watch it

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<v Speaker 1>on my couch at home. Let's say I was with

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<v Speaker 1>someone and they were like, Oh, I haven't seen this one.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to see it. I'm like, I'll watch it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you yes. So for that reason, with all

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<v Speaker 1>of that being said, I will give this film a

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<v Speaker 1>three point five. It's not a four star movie by

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<v Speaker 1>any means. Liked it more than I like Avatar, Fire

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<v Speaker 1>and Ash, which I gave a three two. Liked it

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<v Speaker 1>way more than I like Marty Supreme, which I gave

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<v Speaker 1>a two point nine to nine to two. Uh So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's a three point five movie. I'd watch

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<v Speaker 1>it again. There's parts of it that I enjoyed. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>but there's parts of it that I would yet into

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<v Speaker 1>the ocean, never to be seen ever again. And with that,

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<v Speaker 1>Leaving the Theater is a production of Oh It's Big

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<v Speaker 1>that says what's coming in January, so you could stay

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<v Speaker 1>tuned for all of that. We've got new episodes of

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<v Speaker 1>Wait for It coming though you know regular Wait for It,

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<v Speaker 1>more labor now, let me tell you, because I've reorganized

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<v Speaker 1>it in a very specific way, it feels better. I

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<v Speaker 1>are getting more in the patreon. But to be clear,

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<v Speaker 1>you supporting me through Patreon is what keeps me going.

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<v Speaker 1>It's what allows me to come up with new ideas

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<v Speaker 1>to make new things. We're working on a new episode

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<v Speaker 1>of I don't like that. I'm going to try to

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<v Speaker 1>put them out once. I have a plan now in

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<v Speaker 1>a way that I did not before. A lot of

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<v Speaker 1>you that have been listening to me make this plea

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<v Speaker 1>This is the time to check. This is the time

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<v Speaker 1>see in the Patreon right now. If that means something

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<v Speaker 1>to you, if the labor that I do on leaving

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<v Speaker 1>the Theater, on wait for It, on any of it

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<v Speaker 1>a heartbreaker, which I'm also working on. If all of

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<v Speaker 1>that means something to you, go to Patreon dot com

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<v Speaker 1>slash oh It's Big Ron and become a member. I

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<v Speaker 1>promise you it's very helpful. We are going to continue

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<v Speaker 1>getting better. We have a lot of stuff plan. I

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<v Speaker 1>have a lot of stuff planned just for this year.

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<v Speaker 1>I am working very very hard. This is a labor

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<v Speaker 1>of love, but it's still labor. If that means something

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<v Speaker 1>to you, go to Patreon dot com slash oh It's

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<v Speaker 1>Show art from Heather Wilder, theme music by the mysterious

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<v Speaker 1>Breakmaster Cylinder. For more information about twenty eight years later,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Ronald Young Junior, and I'm not zombie related