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<v Speaker 2>Now are you reporting? Ah? I got a screen going

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<v Speaker 2>on here. Something just kidding my dog? Something killed your dog?

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<v Speaker 2>My dog. We're applying through he or over the trade.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how it did it? Okay, damn, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>really confused now. All I thought was my dog coming

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<v Speaker 2>over the fence and they would have dead. And when

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<v Speaker 2>you hit the ground, I entertaining cars. All I thought

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<v Speaker 2>was my dog coming over the fence. Reporting. We got

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<v Speaker 2>some understuffing brawling around out here. Did you see what

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<v Speaker 2>it was? I'm out here. Look, I'm near the one

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<v Speaker 2>now now and I don't need anything. I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to go outside. He is quite Hello, hit somebody out here?

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<v Speaker 2>Que thought of a bit about text nine. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>do you see announce the Yeah, I'm walking right dy.

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<v Speaker 1>Before we dive into today's episode, I want to take

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<v Speaker 1>a moment to talk directly to you. Over the past week,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been reading your emails, your comments, and your direct

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<v Speaker 1>messages across our social media platforms, and let me tell you, your

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<v Speaker 1>voices have been loud and clear. One name kept coming

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<v Speaker 1>up again and again, Fred from Alaska. You've shared stories

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<v Speaker 1>about how much you enjoyed his insights, his humor, and

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<v Speaker 1>that unique perspective he brings to these encounter stories from Alaska.

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<v Speaker 1>So I've made a decision. I'm thrilled to announce that

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<v Speaker 1>Fred from Alaska is coming back once again, bringing all

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<v Speaker 1>that wisdom and First Nations perspective you've been missing. Fred

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<v Speaker 1>starts off with an interview of a witness that has

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<v Speaker 1>had several experiences while hunting deep in the Alaskan bush.

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<v Speaker 3>Again.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't thank you all enough for your enthusiasm and

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<v Speaker 1>for being such a vital part of this journey. But

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<v Speaker 1>I know you guys are ready to get into it,

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<v Speaker 1>So let's join Fred and his interview with John.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, Greetians, thanks for joining me to spread in Alaska.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm getting ready to start this interview with John. John,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll turn it over to you and you can fill

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<v Speaker 3>in everybody on what you've experienced up here yourself.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, thanks Fred, Fred, I've been talking and I've had

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<v Speaker 4>a few incidents over the course of my life in

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<v Speaker 4>the outdoors in Alaska. Back in the early Chevities, the

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<v Speaker 4>headwaters of one of the rivers flowing into the Yukah

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<v Speaker 4>not first in the Yukon Bridge, we experienced wood knox

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<v Speaker 4>and hod bulbs, and at the time we had no

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<v Speaker 4>idea what was going on. We just weren't sure what

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<v Speaker 4>we were hearing. We just attributed to what we knew,

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<v Speaker 4>and that was moose. It was very odd first year

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<v Speaker 4>that we had heard the stuff, but Schevy were moose

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<v Speaker 4>shutting in there. We didn't see anything. And the following

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<v Speaker 4>year we were back in there again, and that year

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<v Speaker 4>we didn't hear these vocals or anything. But my brother

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<v Speaker 4>and I were pretty young, were with my dad and

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<v Speaker 4>woke up. My brother asked me, who was at the

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<v Speaker 4>fire last night? I said, well, I guess it was dad.

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<v Speaker 4>He said, no, Dad was asleep and you were sleeping.

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<v Speaker 4>I said, well, I don't know who it was, and

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<v Speaker 4>there would be no people out there, and we were

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<v Speaker 4>very revote. So my dad got up and my brother

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<v Speaker 4>asked him about it. He who food it, you know

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<v Speaker 4>his you know tids imagination or whatever. Certainly wasn't thinking

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<v Speaker 4>anything along the ended about hearing man. And I only

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<v Speaker 4>mentioned this stuff is because later it all kind of

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<v Speaker 4>sits in, you know, after you see lifetime of experiences

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<v Speaker 4>and the writing you weren't more and puzzle pieces start

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<v Speaker 4>stop it in the board. And I really didn't have

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<v Speaker 4>anything going on that I could really attribute to that

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<v Speaker 4>until the late seventies. I was down at Lake Clark.

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<v Speaker 4>I was working at a lodge there at the lake, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>and it was anybody around. I would want hike and

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<v Speaker 4>hide the beach here, like over to a river and

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<v Speaker 4>it schools five or some fishing or sometimes I set

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<v Speaker 4>up to the airstrip and there's an old cat trail

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<v Speaker 4>that went straight away from the lodge back towards Telloklonga

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<v Speaker 4>Lake and twin Lakes. And one day an pike and

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<v Speaker 4>this trail away from the airstrip. There was some very

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<v Speaker 4>odd calls coming from ahead of me, you know, probably

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<v Speaker 4>a quarter mile away. I didn't have a firearm with me,

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<v Speaker 4>and made me feel uncomfortable. I couldn't have a wife

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<v Speaker 4>of me figure out what was making this noise these vocals,

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<v Speaker 4>so I stopped and listened to it and went on.

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<v Speaker 4>I probably four in the afternoon. I don't see anything,

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<v Speaker 4>but it Mamy's. There's still uncomfortable. And I was getting

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<v Speaker 4>the ways out from the airstrip and I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>what this is, but it doesn't sound right. So I

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<v Speaker 4>just turned around and it was like another normal thing.

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<v Speaker 4>There's only vocals that I heard. It was that one

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<v Speaker 4>time there, but one of the cooks. I stayed the

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<v Speaker 4>main building there. I had a room backed up to

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<v Speaker 4>the woods, and one of the cooks was also staying

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<v Speaker 4>in the main building. In her ring was the singing

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<v Speaker 4>wall with minas on. She had a window of her.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't even tell you how many times she would

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<v Speaker 4>get up in the morning and tell me to drawing

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<v Speaker 4>that bear that schaps out a window at night, and

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<v Speaker 4>I would laugh about it. The bear's told tap on

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<v Speaker 4>the windows. She was adamant. Just about every night this

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<v Speaker 4>bear would under her window and just tap on the window.

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<v Speaker 4>Of course it's dark and generators off, so she just

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<v Speaker 4>got a little flashlight. She just't never she never claimed

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<v Speaker 4>to see anything, and I never put two and two together.

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<v Speaker 4>But like I said later, this old clad that fits

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<v Speaker 4>in you know like then that I guess it would

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<v Speaker 4>be about in nineteen eighty seven. It was over dealing

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<v Speaker 4>him and Fred's stomping grounds. We're going up to McClean River,

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<v Speaker 4>which is a tributary off the Woods River on your

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<v Speaker 4>way to think. I was up there, just past the

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<v Speaker 4>tiling flows where all the mud stops and it turnist

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<v Speaker 4>and gravel, and I saw an older Native couple pulled

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<v Speaker 4>over to the bank. They were both waving their hands

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<v Speaker 4>at me, so I thought they were broken. Of course,

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<v Speaker 4>she pulled in the sas it can help or whatever's

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<v Speaker 4>going on. I pulled in with my shifts. As soon

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<v Speaker 4>as I turned off the motor. He got on the

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<v Speaker 4>beach shirlook the woman at the mail or both pointing

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<v Speaker 4>towards the woods, pointing towards the river. That a hairy

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<v Speaker 4>man had just jumped across the river. I said, what

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<v Speaker 4>they were just pulling the motion and very out of

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<v Speaker 4>it about what had just gone down. I walked with

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<v Speaker 4>the gentleman over to the water and he showed me

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<v Speaker 4>where it land. It landed actually in the water, and

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<v Speaker 4>then it ran up and across the gravel and into

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<v Speaker 4>the woods. You could see the wet marks on the gravel.

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<v Speaker 4>You couldn't make out any tracks or anything, because the

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<v Speaker 4>soil was fun enough that you just the rocks and all.

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<v Speaker 4>You couldn't make tracks, but you could see it was

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<v Speaker 4>something that had right across there. I believed him, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I believed them one hundred percent that they saw it

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<v Speaker 4>didn't make sense that a moosher would jump that a

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<v Speaker 4>ground bear certainly would him. Couldn't imagine what else it

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<v Speaker 4>would have been. So we went up to the clong

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<v Speaker 4>that dam why fish, and we had no further encounters

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<v Speaker 4>and no problems. And I always flogged back. In the

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<v Speaker 4>back of my head, I always thought about that when

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<v Speaker 4>I went to they went to the Google Walk or

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<v Speaker 4>they goole put fishing, you know. I always thought about

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<v Speaker 4>that couple. I rang each other on the flung, but

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<v Speaker 4>down there he never really saw anything. Didn't hear anything

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<v Speaker 4>up there either. Then about twenty fifteen, I happened to

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<v Speaker 4>be hunting down in Monahan's Wall, was the back off

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<v Speaker 4>of the Dowley Highway, so we can't hold it was down

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<v Speaker 4>in the flash sheet, all five six miles from the road.

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<v Speaker 4>I was down a long roll down there, just glassing.

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<v Speaker 4>They had a fellow with me and he had shot

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<v Speaker 4>a caribou we had processed as cariboo. It was all

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<v Speaker 4>order laid on the tarp there, all ready to go,

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<v Speaker 4>and we were getting ready to hold it out. But

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<v Speaker 4>just before we left, we said, you should want to

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<v Speaker 4>look at the rouse. I'm glassing down show. There's a

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<v Speaker 4>dark swarm among this small little mild out there in

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<v Speaker 4>the flats, next to a sure tree. Look like a shasquatch.

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<v Speaker 4>It was the backside of it. I mentioned to this

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<v Speaker 4>oh I was with. I said, well, have you ever

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<v Speaker 4>seen a shacksquatch? And he said no. I said, well,

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<v Speaker 4>I think there's one stand in there. I told him where.

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<v Speaker 4>He looked through his binoca were said. He didn't say much.

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<v Speaker 4>He just kind of sure, they don't know what that is.

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<v Speaker 4>Was like I had a really good pair of anoes.

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<v Speaker 4>She did very well, and he quit looking at it.

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<v Speaker 4>I think he wrote it off as a stump or something.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't even say anymore about it. But I kept

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<v Speaker 4>checking this thing and watching it, and I swear I

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<v Speaker 4>could see hair, you know, I was about a ninety

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<v Speaker 4>eight percent convinced that that's what I was looking at.

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<v Speaker 4>They could see the arms in the back and wait,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, everything was there. I looked away, looked back

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<v Speaker 4>and it had walked off that mound. It was barn

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<v Speaker 4>he looked over it and he said, are you sure you're

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<v Speaker 4>looking Rice Clint. I said, yeah, there's no doubt. There's

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<v Speaker 4>a tree right there was standing next to it's right there.

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<v Speaker 4>Plane's dead. So that was the long range sighting. That

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<v Speaker 4>was probably least six hundred yards down there where it was.

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<v Speaker 4>It's backless to us. It never knew we were there right.

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<v Speaker 3>That area has a whole bunch of just on my

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<v Speaker 3>channel alone, there's a whole bunch of people from up

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<v Speaker 3>their experiences. I mean, if it fits right into place,

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<v Speaker 3>River Sweet Lakes, I mean, as the crow flies, it's

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<v Speaker 3>what I mean, It's right just right down the road.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. I really appreciate this back of the year. You're

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<v Speaker 4>now ladies and bults start coming forward and it gets

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<v Speaker 4>until about it was the twenty seventeen that everything really

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<v Speaker 4>changed for me. You got contacted by an engineer in

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<v Speaker 4>Fairbanks that takes some other engineers from out of the century.

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<v Speaker 4>I think. He said they were throwing, he was dealing,

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<v Speaker 4>and they wanted to go on some old mine and

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<v Speaker 4>look at some old mind equipment they had there, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>just relic stuff, but a sill at the location. And

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<v Speaker 4>I had the equivalent particulate at a machine that all

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<v Speaker 4>these guys. So he asked if I would do it.

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<v Speaker 4>I said absolutely, yeah, we'll do that. So they came,

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<v Speaker 4>and then we go and we get into this mind.

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<v Speaker 4>Well they all get out of the machine do to

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<v Speaker 4>look at this equipment, which I had seen many times before,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm really getting seen any reason to walk over

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<v Speaker 4>there with it. Well, I just sat on the machine.

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<v Speaker 4>I think I had some coffee, and I'm sitting there

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<v Speaker 4>and just copping a glance to my right. Down on

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<v Speaker 4>the ground just outside of the machine, I saw a

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<v Speaker 4>set of tracks and I instantly did they were sasquatch traction.

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<v Speaker 4>Later that day I came back to the location measurements,

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<v Speaker 4>but I don't say anything to these dayes. I didn't

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<v Speaker 4>want to start a bunch of motions. So they came

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<v Speaker 4>back and they loaded it up, and I held them

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<v Speaker 4>back and get into town. It wasn't real far, but

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<v Speaker 4>it was mighty and swampy, but it wasn't the great distance.

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<v Speaker 4>I got them all back out and I ran home

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<v Speaker 4>and got camera. It came back, went in by myself.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to photograph these tracks, get some measurements and

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<v Speaker 4>see what was going on there. But in the tracks

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<v Speaker 4>for seventeen at quarter inches. The one place I could

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<v Speaker 4>get a stride measurement on heal the deal the leave

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<v Speaker 4>was fifty eight inches. So I get to shrimping around

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<v Speaker 4>and these tracks looked like to me there at least

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<v Speaker 4>ten days old. I move up the trail a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit and you're if I had another ship. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>they're really really fresh tracks. They're new, but it's the

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<v Speaker 4>same individual or one with the same ejexcize foot. I

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<v Speaker 4>get to think, and I thought, you know, what would

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<v Speaker 4>happen if I brought some staff up here and put

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<v Speaker 4>it down in the wood. It's just some trinket type stuff,

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<v Speaker 4>and see what would happen if they would take it,

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<v Speaker 4>or if I could get them to come around, I

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<v Speaker 4>can find some more tracks. It's just spinning. You want

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<v Speaker 4>to end the realization they things are real. I can't

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<v Speaker 4>stand no. If I got to know, so I get

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<v Speaker 4>to see the things from holder. I think it started

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<v Speaker 4>out with like the molers from a moose, coil of

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<v Speaker 4>red hair org I know. I looked at some pictures

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<v Speaker 4>last night. It was a very break from a moose

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<v Speaker 4>that I got boiled up in a shop. I take

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<v Speaker 4>these three items up there and I find, know a

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<v Speaker 4>birch log that's down. It's kind of an obvious spot.

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<v Speaker 4>Put these three items on the walk. I waited a

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<v Speaker 4>couple of days and went back and everything was gone,

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<v Speaker 4>which you know doesn't really mean them. But I finally

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<v Speaker 4>wrote a tree about tiller weapon feet up in the

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<v Speaker 4>tree where a branch had been snaffed off, and it

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<v Speaker 4>was over that broken branch in a coil. That made

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<v Speaker 4>my head kind of like, let's going on here, So

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<v Speaker 4>I thought, I'm going to continue with this is just

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<v Speaker 4>the forest is leaf letther it's my hype bush cranberries,

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<v Speaker 4>Whorris walk is in rose hips and it's not really

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<v Speaker 4>conduced to find a track. It's pretty hard sub straight place.

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<v Speaker 4>There's so much leaf, glitter, f indor she just can't

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<v Speaker 4>really tell. But after a few weeks of bringing things

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<v Speaker 4>up there, no sue, just items and things were disappearing

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<v Speaker 4>at a pretty rapid rate. I started seeing sending the

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<v Speaker 4>depressions in the lake flitter that mapped that track that

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<v Speaker 4>I had seen her. Some of the items were taken.

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<v Speaker 4>But when they started showing back up U four or

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<v Speaker 4>six or eight days later, and they took ten days ago,

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<v Speaker 4>would show right back up there, right on the lock,

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<v Speaker 4>I thought it might be out or something. So I

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<v Speaker 4>decided that I was going to go up there. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>this probably happened in late July, so I had August

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<v Speaker 4>and part of September that I could mess around of this.

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<v Speaker 4>And it wasn't too far from where I was living.

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<v Speaker 4>I could go up there every other day. I thought,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna go at seven and night, seven thirty seven

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<v Speaker 4>seven thirty. Try to let them pattern me. If I

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<v Speaker 4>do it en us, eventually they'll figure out becomes every

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<v Speaker 4>other day, I mean I would think they would figure

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<v Speaker 4>it out, right. Well, I started taking stuff up there

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<v Speaker 4>over the course and the rest of that summer, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>like I said, things disappeared, things came back. One thing

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<v Speaker 4>they took was a little kittens mirror like you'd buy

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<v Speaker 4>a dinosaur for a little girl. It's just reflective aluminum oil.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not even the mirror, right, but you can see yourself.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't remember having of those things, but it was

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<v Speaker 4>at least a couple of those things they took. I

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<v Speaker 4>never did see those again. I took the cal Chaerribou

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<v Speaker 4>aunt rap there. There's not a less chairboodr banks closed anyway,

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<v Speaker 4>and I thought I'll just leave it. See what happens.

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<v Speaker 4>From the day I took that cal Caribou aunt up

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<v Speaker 4>there to the day I put it going there. Every

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<v Speaker 4>time I went, they would move it to another location

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<v Speaker 4>about twenty feet away and stead it over there. And

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<v Speaker 4>they put it in the same six spot every single time. Why.

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<v Speaker 4>I have no idea, right, And during a quarter from

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<v Speaker 4>that first summer, I started milors to some other things

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<v Speaker 4>going in there that you know, trees are snapped, all

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<v Speaker 4>trees are stacked, you know, just real odd, definitely not

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<v Speaker 4>normal stuffed in the forest. You know, the trees pulled

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<v Speaker 4>out of the ground that the root headers off, but

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<v Speaker 4>you know, the Lina has something else. I didn't see anything.

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<v Speaker 4>I never saw anything. I bought at times that I

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<v Speaker 4>did hear them. That first year, I was pretty sure

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<v Speaker 4>that i'd heard a few vocals. I remember it was

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<v Speaker 4>four days before it snowed. I was kind of keeping

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<v Speaker 4>track of things and I had stuck in my schedule

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<v Speaker 4>pretty well. That was the last time when I knew

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<v Speaker 4>that they were there for sure. They had stacked some

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<v Speaker 4>poles up along this route and I walked in like

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<v Speaker 4>a teepee configuration. That was four days before it snowed,

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<v Speaker 4>and that was the last time that they visited that

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<v Speaker 4>area that I know of until the following spring. I

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<v Speaker 4>think it snowed that year. It was like mid October,

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<v Speaker 4>so they just vacated the place completely that they were strong.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know where they list and Jackman kind of

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<v Speaker 4>they did. They respond the Thiland spring had went up there.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it was about the twenties to May that

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<v Speaker 4>I have seen some changes in the woods and what

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<v Speaker 4>had happened. There were two big cottonwood trees that were logs.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry they were, but they were birch. They were

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<v Speaker 4>stuff that had fallen down. But they weren't rotten yet.

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<v Speaker 4>You could still move them around. These two trees got

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<v Speaker 4>stuffed the wedge between two other birch. They were just

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<v Speaker 4>like cantilevering it in this for these two birst trees

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<v Speaker 4>split and grew out of the ground, which were a

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<v Speaker 4>good sized birch. These other big trees got stuffed in there,

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<v Speaker 4>and these logs were in a sixte eight hundred pounds right.

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<v Speaker 4>That happened about the twenty fifth of May, so I

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<v Speaker 4>knew that they were back. I didn't troll by they

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<v Speaker 4>stuff those logs in there, but they were back. So

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<v Speaker 4>I just carried on. It's what I was doing, just drinkets,

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<v Speaker 4>bringing them up the log every other day or so.

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<v Speaker 4>Seven thirty seven was seven thirty. There was one day

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<v Speaker 4>that it was probably all the way up there, towards

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<v Speaker 4>the end of July that I was scheduled to go

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<v Speaker 4>up there in that day and I couldn't go because

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<v Speaker 4>we had something going on that night. I told my wife,

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<v Speaker 4>I said, well, I'm going to go up there now.

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<v Speaker 4>It's two o'clock in the afternoon. So I go up

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<v Speaker 4>there and I get to the log. I can't remember

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<v Speaker 4>what was moved that day, but for some reasons move

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<v Speaker 4>because I was kneeling down and one ding on the ground,

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<v Speaker 4>just kneeling down. I'm starting to do whatever I was

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<v Speaker 4>gonna do, put stuff back on the log, and I thought,

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<v Speaker 4>moving out of my left eye. Just off to my left,

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<v Speaker 4>there's a heavy cor ump of diving willow there, just

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<v Speaker 4>real thing I could, especially this wax sheepe around this

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<v Speaker 4>time in the wall, and I rolled my head to

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<v Speaker 4>the left to look at it. Gets the sask watch.

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<v Speaker 4>It's about five ach maybe aired forty pence, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>a want separating. That's when he came around that brush.

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<v Speaker 4>And as soon as he saw me, he stopped and

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<v Speaker 4>I stopped. And all we did was look at each

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<v Speaker 4>other and looked, you know, right in his face or

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<v Speaker 4>any sign of aggression. That's what I was watching for.

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<v Speaker 4>They did have a pistol right just as cold. They

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<v Speaker 4>did not see any aggression whatsoever. It's just simply a

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<v Speaker 4>stoic stare, you know, just watching me. This went on

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<v Speaker 4>for maybe four or five seconds. It's all not very

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<v Speaker 4>long ago. I rose out to standing height. When I did,

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<v Speaker 4>he apparently didn't like that. He just turned and walked away.

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<v Speaker 4>He did hurry. It was just a calm walk away.

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<v Speaker 1>And stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see. Will

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<v Speaker 1>be right back after these messages.

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<v Speaker 4>The other thing I mentioned to you earlier is that

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<v Speaker 4>found really odd about the whole thing, besides were seeing

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<v Speaker 4>a shasquatch, was that he did not look back at

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<v Speaker 4>me when he started walking away. I thought, well, he's

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<v Speaker 4>gonna stop, you know, and look bit. But that didn't happen.

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<v Speaker 4>Some of the interesting things that you know about him

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<v Speaker 4>were and I did some artwork. I should send it

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<v Speaker 4>to you, Fred. Our eyes were dark. I couldn't tell

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<v Speaker 4>you if they were dark brown and black. They were dark. Right,

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<v Speaker 4>the ashen gray skin, I know it had hair everywhere,

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<v Speaker 4>but like I increased to the arm and on the knees,

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<v Speaker 4>I noticed ashing gray skin. You could see through the hair.

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<v Speaker 4>But one of the things that I really I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I focused in on this, but all the reports I hear, well,

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<v Speaker 4>there's no hair around the eyes or nose, but this

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<v Speaker 4>guy had really fine hair on his nose, cheeks and

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<v Speaker 4>those areas. And I think people were fortunte hair. You

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<v Speaker 4>were fine, but it was I mean, he suppose I

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<v Speaker 4>could see it. I don't know. I just I didn't

416
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<v Speaker 4>really look at his body. I just kept washing his

417
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<v Speaker 4>eyes and was depressing, you know. That's all I was

418
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<v Speaker 4>worried about. Was there was any aggression.

419
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<v Speaker 3>What was the distance between when you stood up and

420
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<v Speaker 3>you had that four to five second stare down?

421
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<v Speaker 4>Was a distance between you it was? I always say

422
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<v Speaker 4>it was about ten yards or less. But he was obviously.

423
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<v Speaker 4>You know, maybe that's the feature they lose when they

424
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<v Speaker 4>hit over. I don't. There was definitely hair all over

425
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<v Speaker 4>his face, like I said, across the cheeks and nose.

426
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<v Speaker 4>It was fine, but it ins like very short. Felt

427
00:21:34.799 --> 00:21:37.200
<v Speaker 4>that was that he walked away. But I thought it

428
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<v Speaker 4>was interesting that whole year and a half that I

429
00:21:40.119 --> 00:21:43.240
<v Speaker 4>kind of messed around with that. I never saw the

430
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<v Speaker 4>track of a smaller shaft watch. I never did see

431
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<v Speaker 4>at least literally probably wouldn't, but I would bother at

432
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<v Speaker 4>some point i'd put that together, but I didn't. I

433
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<v Speaker 4>didn't know it was there. All I thought was the

434
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<v Speaker 4>one big one. All I do, right, if he's up,

435
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<v Speaker 4>I'll just go to the hand. When the shole. My

436
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<v Speaker 4>second year, I noticed they got a lot more vocal.

437
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<v Speaker 4>You shouldn't realize there were three of them. They are

438
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<v Speaker 4>at set of two. And the reason I say that

439
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<v Speaker 4>because I heard vocals that happened at the same time.

440
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<v Speaker 4>You'd have one up the hill and down the hill

441
00:22:12.200 --> 00:22:15.039
<v Speaker 4>and loft your right. I got used to it. They

442
00:22:15.079 --> 00:22:17.480
<v Speaker 4>had this coughing groat. I didn't think it was aggressive.

443
00:22:17.599 --> 00:22:19.279
<v Speaker 4>I think it was just let me know they were there.

444
00:22:20.119 --> 00:22:24.720
<v Speaker 4>I never experienced any aggression to that point at all.

445
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<v Speaker 4>When I ended this whole thing. What happened was I

446
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<v Speaker 4>went in. Every one evening had been ready said it damp.

447
00:22:30.920 --> 00:22:33.839
<v Speaker 4>I hear them calling more than ever. I mean, they

448
00:22:33.839 --> 00:22:37.640
<v Speaker 4>were moving. It wasn't road too. Was one off the hill,

449
00:22:37.759 --> 00:22:40.160
<v Speaker 4>one down the hill, one off to my right, and

450
00:22:40.200 --> 00:22:42.079
<v Speaker 4>all of a sudden I got this. I never smelled

451
00:22:42.079 --> 00:22:44.400
<v Speaker 4>this before, but on this day I did smell it.

452
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<v Speaker 4>This really strong musty odor. It had a very very

453
00:22:50.119 --> 00:22:54.240
<v Speaker 4>musty urine type odor, extremely strong. It was not on

454
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<v Speaker 4>part with like a strong where a billy go, you

455
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<v Speaker 4>know how they stink, And it was it was that woud,

456
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<v Speaker 4>but a different over. I'm listening to them moving back

457
00:23:04.559 --> 00:23:06.839
<v Speaker 4>and forth, I'm smelling the smell. I'm thinking they're all

458
00:23:06.920 --> 00:23:10.359
<v Speaker 4>amped up about something, and I'm thinking, you know, and

459
00:23:10.480 --> 00:23:13.279
<v Speaker 4>again babies, because I'm in here, so I thought best

460
00:23:13.279 --> 00:23:16.039
<v Speaker 4>to get out of there because I had been riding

461
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<v Speaker 4>my bike by that time. So I jumped on my

462
00:23:18.039 --> 00:23:21.400
<v Speaker 4>bike headed out back to the main trail. I made

463
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<v Speaker 4>the turn and I went down there. I had a

464
00:23:23.240 --> 00:23:25.880
<v Speaker 4>couple hundred yards and the smell had gone by this point.

465
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<v Speaker 4>I just smell anything I run into like a wall odor.

466
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<v Speaker 4>So I know that there's one right there. So I

467
00:23:32.079 --> 00:23:34.240
<v Speaker 4>walk the bikes up on the bike and they have

468
00:23:34.359 --> 00:23:37.599
<v Speaker 4>my camp work. I intended to get some footage less

469
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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna do right, and they start shooting with a

470
00:23:41.440 --> 00:23:44.000
<v Speaker 4>camp flor f wind and there's another clock for rush

471
00:23:44.079 --> 00:23:47.920
<v Speaker 4>up there, like twenty feet away. I cannot see through it,

472
00:23:48.160 --> 00:23:50.640
<v Speaker 4>but I know what every inns would I be. There's

473
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<v Speaker 4>a cashwatch behind that brush, because I can smell it.

474
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<v Speaker 4>Then as I'm looking up there, I realized and then

475
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<v Speaker 4>of going through a metal lap right behind me her

476
00:23:59.440 --> 00:24:02.839
<v Speaker 4>tailing else they're right up against the trail. I thought,

477
00:24:02.880 --> 00:24:05.880
<v Speaker 4>you know, this is a perfect pitch point. They knew

478
00:24:05.920 --> 00:24:07.960
<v Speaker 4>where I was going. I ride it out. It didn't

479
00:24:08.000 --> 00:24:11.200
<v Speaker 4>help the same way every time I thought they pondered me.

480
00:24:11.359 --> 00:24:13.400
<v Speaker 4>They probably watched me go by the four, but they

481
00:24:13.480 --> 00:24:17.160
<v Speaker 4>ran ahead. I'm thinking that there's probably another one behind

482
00:24:17.240 --> 00:24:20.519
<v Speaker 4>this healing pile. It's all kind of like right into

483
00:24:20.559 --> 00:24:23.200
<v Speaker 4>their trap kind of thing. Right. I got out the

484
00:24:23.279 --> 00:24:25.960
<v Speaker 4>bike and I left the area. No other had snow problems.

485
00:24:26.559 --> 00:24:28.400
<v Speaker 4>But I got home and they told my wife. I said,

486
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<v Speaker 4>I'm done with it. I said, that made me feel

487
00:24:30.720 --> 00:24:34.599
<v Speaker 4>real easy. I just am done with I mean, I

488
00:24:34.640 --> 00:24:36.400
<v Speaker 4>think I'm playing with you know though, what they're going

489
00:24:36.440 --> 00:24:37.960
<v Speaker 4>to do. I don't think they're going to sit around

490
00:24:38.160 --> 00:24:41.240
<v Speaker 4>the outlayre tooking, you know, marshallows, that's for sure, and

491
00:24:41.279 --> 00:24:44.680
<v Speaker 4>they certainly have the size to be very degerous. They

492
00:24:44.759 --> 00:24:47.720
<v Speaker 4>wanted me, so we're all kind of stopped in Alaska

493
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<v Speaker 4>for me. Thread After that happened, I backed off of

494
00:24:50.640 --> 00:24:54.240
<v Speaker 4>it other than to occasily look for a track or something.

495
00:24:54.480 --> 00:24:57.160
<v Speaker 4>And I did notice through just the experience of going

496
00:24:57.240 --> 00:25:00.799
<v Speaker 4>up there, seeing those log formations, stick formations that they

497
00:25:00.799 --> 00:25:03.359
<v Speaker 4>had made, I know, driving around Alaska and the rest

498
00:25:03.359 --> 00:25:05.440
<v Speaker 4>of life hunting and fishing, and I would have He's

499
00:25:05.480 --> 00:25:07.880
<v Speaker 4>going to see those in other areas. Now, I just

500
00:25:07.960 --> 00:25:10.279
<v Speaker 4>made the metal rot, you know. But other than that,

501
00:25:10.640 --> 00:25:13.799
<v Speaker 4>I never experienced anything else after that happened in Alaska.

502
00:25:14.000 --> 00:25:15.839
<v Speaker 3>I had a couple of questions for you real quick.

503
00:25:16.319 --> 00:25:18.839
<v Speaker 3>When you were kneeling with your focus was to your left,

504
00:25:18.880 --> 00:25:21.759
<v Speaker 3>when this thing was coming out from the trees. What

505
00:25:21.920 --> 00:25:24.599
<v Speaker 3>was the feeling you had? Did the hair stand on

506
00:25:24.839 --> 00:25:27.680
<v Speaker 3>arms or anything of that nature, or was it more

507
00:25:27.720 --> 00:25:31.359
<v Speaker 3>of a just a whoa kind of curiosity.

508
00:25:31.480 --> 00:25:34.200
<v Speaker 4>I'm glad you asked that, because I did leave something out,

509
00:25:34.279 --> 00:25:37.359
<v Speaker 4>but least first me and eye contact. I literally felt

510
00:25:37.400 --> 00:25:39.839
<v Speaker 4>like I had stuck my finger in one tent. I

511
00:25:39.920 --> 00:25:42.839
<v Speaker 4>just felt like that, like I literally got shot. Nows

512
00:25:42.920 --> 00:25:46.240
<v Speaker 4>it was adrenaline or what happened there, but I felt

513
00:25:46.279 --> 00:25:48.880
<v Speaker 4>a jolt of electricity got into my body. I can't

514
00:25:48.880 --> 00:25:51.359
<v Speaker 4>explain it. I imagine it was adrenaline if you see

515
00:25:51.359 --> 00:25:53.480
<v Speaker 4>something like that in real life and then yeah, you're

516
00:25:53.519 --> 00:25:56.000
<v Speaker 4>about let you see it, and especially as such close

517
00:25:56.119 --> 00:25:58.319
<v Speaker 4>range it, I just felt like I stuck my finger

518
00:25:58.400 --> 00:26:00.000
<v Speaker 4>away socket right.

519
00:26:00.079 --> 00:26:03.200
<v Speaker 3>I always described it as every fiber of your being

520
00:26:03.279 --> 00:26:06.039
<v Speaker 3>wanting to flee, but it's stuck in your skin. That

521
00:26:06.240 --> 00:26:08.559
<v Speaker 3>That's the best description I could ever come up with

522
00:26:08.640 --> 00:26:11.640
<v Speaker 3>as far as that feeling goes. And you were feeling

523
00:26:11.680 --> 00:26:15.359
<v Speaker 3>like there was coordinated effort when you realized that you

524
00:26:15.359 --> 00:26:17.759
<v Speaker 3>were at going towards that pinch point. Did you have

525
00:26:17.799 --> 00:26:20.079
<v Speaker 3>any similar feelings? Then?

526
00:26:20.839 --> 00:26:24.519
<v Speaker 4>All myself then was once I realized what potentially could

527
00:26:24.559 --> 00:26:27.240
<v Speaker 4>be going down there, if there was one behind that feeling,

528
00:26:27.319 --> 00:26:29.039
<v Speaker 4>file was getting out of here in.

529
00:26:29.079 --> 00:26:33.880
<v Speaker 3>It right right man? Yeah? You know, with the experiences

530
00:26:33.920 --> 00:26:35.759
<v Speaker 3>that you've dealt with over the years, do you feel

531
00:26:35.799 --> 00:26:39.160
<v Speaker 3>like your intuition when it comes to these beings has

532
00:26:39.200 --> 00:26:41.279
<v Speaker 3>been heightened due to those experiences?

533
00:26:41.839 --> 00:26:44.400
<v Speaker 4>Absolutely? No matter what I do or where I go,

534
00:26:44.920 --> 00:26:48.119
<v Speaker 4>I'm constantly thinking of pushing the woods, you know, listally

535
00:26:48.440 --> 00:26:50.799
<v Speaker 4>a couple of year your stories, especially that one on

536
00:26:50.839 --> 00:26:53.759
<v Speaker 4>the night after the Alaska I've actually spent time on

537
00:26:53.880 --> 00:26:55.880
<v Speaker 4>t Chick Lake or Naykuk Lake or do you want

538
00:26:55.880 --> 00:26:57.319
<v Speaker 4>to call it. Last time it was up there was

539
00:26:57.359 --> 00:27:00.039
<v Speaker 4>there for a week and we were caribou hunting. I

540
00:27:00.079 --> 00:27:03.200
<v Speaker 4>didn't have any experiences there at all, But now that

541
00:27:03.279 --> 00:27:04.960
<v Speaker 4>I hear your stories, I'm glad I didn't.

542
00:27:05.039 --> 00:27:08.319
<v Speaker 3>Holy Yeah, And you know that New Yorkuk River man

543
00:27:08.359 --> 00:27:11.200
<v Speaker 3>from where tick chickens and it goes the New York

544
00:27:11.200 --> 00:27:13.240
<v Speaker 3>Cuk all the way down to the New Sheigag and

545
00:27:13.480 --> 00:27:16.319
<v Speaker 3>just above there by Harris Creek on up to Lake Clark.

546
00:27:16.880 --> 00:27:19.200
<v Speaker 3>You know that whole area, if we were to draw

547
00:27:19.240 --> 00:27:23.000
<v Speaker 3>it into a big triangle, that area has a very

548
00:27:23.079 --> 00:27:27.680
<v Speaker 3>high concentration of indigenous encounters, you know, local villagers, relatives

549
00:27:27.720 --> 00:27:30.559
<v Speaker 3>of mine. My cousin Nikolai, I've shared a couple of

550
00:27:30.599 --> 00:27:34.279
<v Speaker 3>his experiences on the channel before even brought the Harryman

551
00:27:34.400 --> 00:27:37.480
<v Speaker 3>up to him. We were talking. I had just started

552
00:27:37.519 --> 00:27:40.920
<v Speaker 3>my channel before we hoped the phone. I was like, oh, hey,

553
00:27:40.960 --> 00:27:44.359
<v Speaker 3>you got any good Harryman stories? And he goes, yeah, yeah,

554
00:27:44.400 --> 00:27:46.599
<v Speaker 3>I do. Have you ever been to the New YORKUK River?

555
00:27:46.759 --> 00:27:49.680
<v Speaker 3>And I laughed because he never knew of my experience

556
00:27:49.680 --> 00:27:51.119
<v Speaker 3>on the New York Cuk. You know, this was a

557
00:27:51.160 --> 00:27:55.079
<v Speaker 3>decade and changed later, like sixteen years later. Unbeknounced to

558
00:27:55.119 --> 00:27:58.519
<v Speaker 3>me until he filled me in. There has been so

559
00:27:59.079 --> 00:28:02.079
<v Speaker 3>many different people, people on that river drainage, the smaller

560
00:28:02.119 --> 00:28:06.400
<v Speaker 3>tributaries around there, that have had crazy experiences. A large

561
00:28:06.480 --> 00:28:09.720
<v Speaker 3>portion of them has to do with firearms happen to

562
00:28:09.759 --> 00:28:12.400
<v Speaker 3>be used to run these things off. The level of

563
00:28:12.400 --> 00:28:16.079
<v Speaker 3>aggression in that area seems to be so high. There's

564
00:28:16.079 --> 00:28:19.480
<v Speaker 3>a lot more encounters around gold mining. My experience, we

565
00:28:19.480 --> 00:28:21.960
<v Speaker 3>were up there to do some panning, you know, potentially

566
00:28:22.000 --> 00:28:26.119
<v Speaker 3>stake a claim. There's all these historical references around mining

567
00:28:26.160 --> 00:28:30.799
<v Speaker 3>areas and places rich in quartz, gold, copper. It kind

568
00:28:30.799 --> 00:28:34.559
<v Speaker 3>of makes you wonder why these areas with these concentrated

569
00:28:34.599 --> 00:28:39.119
<v Speaker 3>minerals would have a drastically different experience, Like the Ape

570
00:28:39.119 --> 00:28:41.920
<v Speaker 3>Canyon thing. You know, they were mining, and there's so

571
00:28:42.079 --> 00:28:45.519
<v Speaker 3>many other ones that involved miners in these things coming

572
00:28:45.559 --> 00:28:49.440
<v Speaker 3>in on them. It's kind of strange. Just speculation, of course,

573
00:28:49.480 --> 00:28:51.839
<v Speaker 3>but just things that make you go hmm. I want

574
00:28:51.880 --> 00:28:55.240
<v Speaker 3>to thank John for sharing his experiences up here in Alaska.

575
00:28:55.720 --> 00:28:58.160
<v Speaker 3>Before I get too cold here, let me share with

576
00:28:58.200 --> 00:29:02.839
<v Speaker 3>you what Samantha and Richard shares with us. Approximately ten

577
00:29:02.920 --> 00:29:06.359
<v Speaker 3>years ago. Richard's uncle, he has a small little gold

578
00:29:06.359 --> 00:29:09.640
<v Speaker 3>claim down by Hope. That place has a long lineage

579
00:29:09.720 --> 00:29:12.160
<v Speaker 3>of gold mining, gold panning, and all that kind of stuff,

580
00:29:12.200 --> 00:29:16.279
<v Speaker 3>and it also has a lineage of Harryman experiences. What

581
00:29:16.440 --> 00:29:20.039
<v Speaker 3>ended up happening is is they came up from I

582
00:29:20.079 --> 00:29:23.880
<v Speaker 3>believe it was Wisconsin area. They were newly married. Uncle said, hey,

583
00:29:23.920 --> 00:29:26.160
<v Speaker 3>come up, you know, stastue some gold, get your a

584
00:29:26.160 --> 00:29:28.400
<v Speaker 3>little nest egg, you know, getting your family started. And

585
00:29:28.960 --> 00:29:31.799
<v Speaker 3>you know, Richard and Samantha obliged. They come up with

586
00:29:31.960 --> 00:29:35.440
<v Speaker 3>no knowledge of Alaska, only postcards and you know, na

587
00:29:35.519 --> 00:29:39.119
<v Speaker 3>geoshit and Discovery Channel stuff. So they were amazed at

588
00:29:39.119 --> 00:29:43.359
<v Speaker 3>the beauty. His uncle's operation was real small. He had

589
00:29:43.440 --> 00:29:45.839
<v Speaker 3>a pump that he would spray the bank and loosen

590
00:29:45.920 --> 00:29:48.240
<v Speaker 3>up material and then take that material in buckets and

591
00:29:48.319 --> 00:29:51.519
<v Speaker 3>going sluice it. So he basically had Samantha and Richard

592
00:29:51.640 --> 00:29:54.720
<v Speaker 3>just being worker bees, collecting buckets of material for him

593
00:29:54.720 --> 00:29:56.680
<v Speaker 3>to run through the sluice and they get a percentage.

594
00:29:56.720 --> 00:29:58.880
<v Speaker 3>That's how they had it lined up. Again. This is

595
00:29:58.880 --> 00:30:01.079
<v Speaker 3>about a decade ago. One of the trips they were

596
00:30:01.079 --> 00:30:03.319
<v Speaker 3>going back and forth together. You know, they had the

597
00:30:03.359 --> 00:30:06.359
<v Speaker 3>pump running and other machinery going and stuff where they

598
00:30:06.359 --> 00:30:09.079
<v Speaker 3>weren't too afraid of bears. But I guess Samantha had

599
00:30:09.200 --> 00:30:12.279
<v Speaker 3>just watched Grizzly Man, so bears were really got her

600
00:30:12.279 --> 00:30:15.160
<v Speaker 3>freaked out, you know. So Richard be an understanding and

601
00:30:15.200 --> 00:30:17.400
<v Speaker 3>it being new to him as well. They had a

602
00:30:17.440 --> 00:30:19.759
<v Speaker 3>camp shotgun, so Richard would have had that slung over

603
00:30:19.799 --> 00:30:22.799
<v Speaker 3>his back. On this one particular trip they had made

604
00:30:22.839 --> 00:30:25.680
<v Speaker 3>about three or four that morning. On their next trip back,

605
00:30:25.720 --> 00:30:27.359
<v Speaker 3>they were going to spray the banks some more and

606
00:30:27.359 --> 00:30:32.640
<v Speaker 3>collect some more material at this particular location. Well, once

607
00:30:33.400 --> 00:30:36.519
<v Speaker 3>they get to drop off the buckets, Richard's uncle needs

608
00:30:36.519 --> 00:30:39.279
<v Speaker 3>a hand with one of the mechanisms that he was

609
00:30:39.319 --> 00:30:41.279
<v Speaker 3>working with as far as this slice box. There was

610
00:30:41.480 --> 00:30:43.720
<v Speaker 3>some kind of hinge leg or something that was acting up,

611
00:30:43.799 --> 00:30:47.559
<v Speaker 3>kept collapsing and messing things up. So Richard was helping

612
00:30:47.599 --> 00:30:50.200
<v Speaker 3>him with that, and Samantha figured, okay, she was a

613
00:30:50.200 --> 00:30:54.000
<v Speaker 3>little more comfortable. She said, I'll go and get at

614
00:30:54.039 --> 00:30:56.160
<v Speaker 3>least one more bucket of the material that's still left

615
00:30:56.160 --> 00:30:58.160
<v Speaker 3>there or whatever while you guys are messing with that. So,

616
00:30:58.799 --> 00:31:01.720
<v Speaker 3>thinking nothing of it, she heads off by herself and

617
00:31:01.759 --> 00:31:04.799
<v Speaker 3>it's approximately about one hundred and fifty two hundred yards

618
00:31:05.200 --> 00:31:07.640
<v Speaker 3>to this particular location you can get the bucket fill.

619
00:31:08.119 --> 00:31:10.200
<v Speaker 3>She's carrying this five gallon bucket, and she said as

620
00:31:10.240 --> 00:31:13.119
<v Speaker 3>she was walking along, the highest bank was off through

621
00:31:13.119 --> 00:31:15.839
<v Speaker 3>her left hand side. As she's walking in, she said,

622
00:31:15.880 --> 00:31:19.160
<v Speaker 3>it was about six foot elevation above her. The overburden

623
00:31:19.240 --> 00:31:21.319
<v Speaker 3>the trees and stuff hadn't been pushed back there, but

624
00:31:21.440 --> 00:31:24.400
<v Speaker 3>where they were spraying the bank, the overburden had been

625
00:31:24.400 --> 00:31:26.599
<v Speaker 3>pushed back about one hundred yards or something like that.

626
00:31:27.079 --> 00:31:30.680
<v Speaker 3>So as she's going along. There's basically a six foot

627
00:31:30.720 --> 00:31:33.720
<v Speaker 3>bank to her left, about twenty feet away at six

628
00:31:33.759 --> 00:31:37.319
<v Speaker 3>foot elevation above her. There's still trees there, willows and

629
00:31:37.759 --> 00:31:40.920
<v Speaker 3>spruce and what have you. It was pretty dense from

630
00:31:40.920 --> 00:31:43.400
<v Speaker 3>her field of view. She's kind of looking up. She

631
00:31:43.480 --> 00:31:46.440
<v Speaker 3>keeps hearing this weird kind of grunt sound. But she

632
00:31:47.240 --> 00:31:51.759
<v Speaker 3>heard something similar when her husband, Richard, was scooping water

633
00:31:51.960 --> 00:31:54.400
<v Speaker 3>and the bucket would kind of rub against the gravel

634
00:31:54.440 --> 00:31:56.599
<v Speaker 3>at the bottom of the water by this little creek.

635
00:31:56.640 --> 00:31:59.480
<v Speaker 3>It would make this wolf kind of sound. So she

636
00:31:59.519 --> 00:32:03.559
<v Speaker 3>attributed did the grunting she heard to that wasn't feeling

637
00:32:03.599 --> 00:32:06.559
<v Speaker 3>weird until she got she said, about fifty feet from

638
00:32:06.559 --> 00:32:09.039
<v Speaker 3>where their shovels were stuck in the ground from when

639
00:32:09.039 --> 00:32:11.920
<v Speaker 3>they were filling up the buckets. She said, she got

640
00:32:11.920 --> 00:32:15.039
<v Speaker 3>the weirdest feeling, and she thought Richard was sneaking up

641
00:32:15.079 --> 00:32:18.160
<v Speaker 3>behind her because she felt a presence. She couldn't pinpoint

642
00:32:18.160 --> 00:32:19.880
<v Speaker 3>at the moment, but she turned around and said, ah,

643
00:32:20.200 --> 00:32:22.759
<v Speaker 3>you can't scare me or whatever, thinking it was her

644
00:32:22.799 --> 00:32:27.039
<v Speaker 3>husband Richard. Well, nothing was there. She was like, wow,

645
00:32:27.119 --> 00:32:29.960
<v Speaker 3>I feel like I'm being watched. She said. That's when

646
00:32:30.000 --> 00:32:32.039
<v Speaker 3>the hair stood up on her neck and on her arms.

647
00:32:32.200 --> 00:32:35.359
<v Speaker 3>She was looking around. She's studying the trees, and bears

648
00:32:35.359 --> 00:32:38.640
<v Speaker 3>came flooding back into her mind. So she drops the bucket.

649
00:32:38.880 --> 00:32:42.000
<v Speaker 3>Paul's ass back right, she said. As she's running. She's

650
00:32:42.039 --> 00:32:44.039
<v Speaker 3>now got the bank off to her right hand side,

651
00:32:44.079 --> 00:32:47.200
<v Speaker 3>approximately twenty feet away and six foot in elevation. But

652
00:32:47.240 --> 00:32:50.799
<v Speaker 3>she heard a couple limbs breaking as she's running along.

653
00:32:51.000 --> 00:32:53.400
<v Speaker 3>I just fixed what they're dealing with. So she stopped,

654
00:32:53.480 --> 00:32:56.400
<v Speaker 3>and she didn't know what to say because she felt

655
00:32:56.440 --> 00:32:59.440
<v Speaker 3>a little silly being freaked out. But she didn't see anything.

656
00:32:59.519 --> 00:33:02.039
<v Speaker 3>She kind of but she heard the branches breaking, so

657
00:33:02.519 --> 00:33:05.880
<v Speaker 3>she was dismissing it. She was reasoning it away. So

658
00:33:06.039 --> 00:33:08.400
<v Speaker 3>Richard asked, what, jeez, you look like you saw a ghost.

659
00:33:08.440 --> 00:33:10.559
<v Speaker 3>Are you okay? You know, just kind of joking around.

660
00:33:10.640 --> 00:33:13.200
<v Speaker 3>She goes, well, I thought you were behind me. I

661
00:33:13.240 --> 00:33:15.559
<v Speaker 3>felt a presence, and he was like, it's probably a bear.

662
00:33:15.680 --> 00:33:19.079
<v Speaker 3>You just wait here, we'll go together. Finishes doing whatever,

663
00:33:19.200 --> 00:33:22.160
<v Speaker 3>so he grabs buckets that he was carrying and he

664
00:33:22.240 --> 00:33:25.440
<v Speaker 3>follows her and she leads away. Richard said. As they're

665
00:33:25.440 --> 00:33:28.079
<v Speaker 3>walking along, Sametha kept looking over towards the trees and

666
00:33:28.119 --> 00:33:30.000
<v Speaker 3>He kind of chuckled and was like, you're scared of

667
00:33:30.000 --> 00:33:32.799
<v Speaker 3>those bears still, you know they're probably none around here,

668
00:33:32.799 --> 00:33:35.079
<v Speaker 3>and started laying out every reason why the bears wouldn't

669
00:33:35.079 --> 00:33:36.720
<v Speaker 3>be around with all the noise and this and that,

670
00:33:36.799 --> 00:33:40.279
<v Speaker 3>and that's when she tells him, hey, I felt like

671
00:33:40.319 --> 00:33:42.880
<v Speaker 3>I was being watched. I felt real uncomfortable, and that's

672
00:33:42.920 --> 00:33:45.119
<v Speaker 3>why I ran back. But he was like really, So

673
00:33:45.200 --> 00:33:47.279
<v Speaker 3>he decides he sets the buckets down when they get

674
00:33:47.279 --> 00:33:50.359
<v Speaker 3>over by where their shovels were, and he was like, okay, well,

675
00:33:50.400 --> 00:33:52.839
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna walk up under the bank there. I'm going

676
00:33:52.920 --> 00:33:54.920
<v Speaker 3>to take a look around. If I see anything, you know,

677
00:33:54.960 --> 00:33:56.599
<v Speaker 3>I'll run it off, you know, give her a peace

678
00:33:56.640 --> 00:33:59.079
<v Speaker 3>of mind. So as he's doing that, he gets out

679
00:33:59.079 --> 00:34:00.920
<v Speaker 3>of her field of view, and she said, as she

680
00:34:01.039 --> 00:34:04.160
<v Speaker 3>was standing there by the shovels, across the creek to

681
00:34:04.200 --> 00:34:07.319
<v Speaker 3>her left, there's another higher bank that goes up and

682
00:34:07.480 --> 00:34:09.840
<v Speaker 3>kind of pushes up in the small finger valley that

683
00:34:09.880 --> 00:34:12.159
<v Speaker 3>they were near, her attention kept getting drawn off to

684
00:34:12.159 --> 00:34:14.679
<v Speaker 3>her left and she kept looking, but she wasn't seeing

685
00:34:14.719 --> 00:34:17.280
<v Speaker 3>anything right, So she was just like, man, it's the

686
00:34:17.360 --> 00:34:19.400
<v Speaker 3>damn this feeling. I feel like I'm being watched. A

687
00:34:19.440 --> 00:34:22.039
<v Speaker 3>few moments later, Richard comes back down the bank and

688
00:34:22.079 --> 00:34:24.599
<v Speaker 3>he goes, I'm not seeing anything, you know, nothing out

689
00:34:24.639 --> 00:34:27.960
<v Speaker 3>of the ordinary. Well down where they were at, there's

690
00:34:28.000 --> 00:34:30.599
<v Speaker 3>a lot of moss and tundra in mixed within the trees, right,

691
00:34:30.679 --> 00:34:32.599
<v Speaker 3>just like a lot of places around here, So he

692
00:34:32.639 --> 00:34:35.039
<v Speaker 3>couldn't make out any tracks. Like Richard said, he was

693
00:34:35.039 --> 00:34:37.239
<v Speaker 3>not a tracker. He's not from Alaska. He's not an

694
00:34:37.280 --> 00:34:40.760
<v Speaker 3>outdoorsy guy. They were here to make a little nest egg,

695
00:34:40.840 --> 00:34:43.039
<v Speaker 3>make a little profit doing the gold thing with his uncle.

696
00:34:43.519 --> 00:34:47.559
<v Speaker 3>So he really wasn't an outdoorsman that could recognize track

697
00:34:47.639 --> 00:34:49.880
<v Speaker 3>sign and all that kind of stuff. So, you know,

698
00:34:49.960 --> 00:34:52.880
<v Speaker 3>he just chalked it up. But Samantha lets him know, hey,

699
00:34:53.000 --> 00:34:56.480
<v Speaker 3>I keep getting a feeling from across over there something

700
00:34:56.559 --> 00:35:00.079
<v Speaker 3>watching me. And he goes, okay, well I'm going to

701
00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:03.599
<v Speaker 3>to stand with my back that direction, I'm gonna talk

702
00:35:03.639 --> 00:35:06.239
<v Speaker 3>to you, and you just pretend to look at me,

703
00:35:06.320 --> 00:35:09.199
<v Speaker 3>but look over my shoulder and look around right. And

704
00:35:09.239 --> 00:35:10.840
<v Speaker 3>she thought it was odd. She was like, where you

705
00:35:10.880 --> 00:35:13.119
<v Speaker 3>get this idea? And he goes, well, let's just see

706
00:35:13.159 --> 00:35:15.960
<v Speaker 3>if someone's watching us, they think we're talking, maybe they'll

707
00:35:16.000 --> 00:35:18.719
<v Speaker 3>move thinking you're not watching. She went along with it,

708
00:35:18.760 --> 00:35:21.960
<v Speaker 3>so she had to kind of back up the little

709
00:35:22.039 --> 00:35:24.480
<v Speaker 3>hill a little ways because Richard was much taller than her,

710
00:35:24.599 --> 00:35:26.599
<v Speaker 3>just to see over his shoulder, because at first he

711
00:35:26.679 --> 00:35:28.440
<v Speaker 3>was his blocking whole way, you know what I mean.

712
00:35:28.519 --> 00:35:30.760
<v Speaker 3>So she backed up a couple steps up onto this

713
00:35:30.800 --> 00:35:34.400
<v Speaker 3>little rise and she's looking. She's about even with Richard

714
00:35:34.400 --> 00:35:37.400
<v Speaker 3>at this point. She's looking over his shoulder. At one

715
00:35:37.440 --> 00:35:39.239
<v Speaker 3>point she thought she saw a movement, and then she

716
00:35:39.320 --> 00:35:41.159
<v Speaker 3>kind of came forward a couple steps because she was

717
00:35:41.159 --> 00:35:43.480
<v Speaker 3>a few steps away from Richard. She's like, right over there,

718
00:35:43.480 --> 00:35:47.400
<v Speaker 3>and he turns around. She's pointing he's not seeing the

719
00:35:47.480 --> 00:35:50.519
<v Speaker 3>movement in the area that she had seen it. She

720
00:35:50.639 --> 00:35:52.840
<v Speaker 3>was trying to point out that there's a small tree

721
00:35:53.280 --> 00:35:55.920
<v Speaker 3>next to a small looking pine tree that looked like

722
00:35:55.920 --> 00:35:58.480
<v Speaker 3>a Christmas tree, and the movement was in between there.

723
00:35:58.559 --> 00:36:00.920
<v Speaker 3>So she keeps trying to explain him, and I understand

724
00:36:00.960 --> 00:36:04.760
<v Speaker 3>for Richard's sake here there are several spots along that

725
00:36:04.880 --> 00:36:08.079
<v Speaker 3>opposite bank that matched her description, so he's like, be

726
00:36:08.159 --> 00:36:11.039
<v Speaker 3>more specific. So she picks up a rock and she

727
00:36:11.320 --> 00:36:14.079
<v Speaker 3>chucks it across the way there in the direction that

728
00:36:14.159 --> 00:36:17.239
<v Speaker 3>she's talking about because she was flustered. Well, she threw

729
00:36:17.280 --> 00:36:21.840
<v Speaker 3>it pretty good because the distance was approximately thirty thirty

730
00:36:21.840 --> 00:36:24.599
<v Speaker 3>five yards. The way she threw the rock, it hit

731
00:36:24.639 --> 00:36:26.960
<v Speaker 3>and took a good bounce or two and then slid

732
00:36:27.119 --> 00:36:30.199
<v Speaker 3>and was literally in the direction she wanted to point it.

733
00:36:30.199 --> 00:36:32.280
<v Speaker 3>So she was like, yes, you know, she was stoked.

734
00:36:32.519 --> 00:36:34.719
<v Speaker 3>She pointed out to Richard c in that direction between

735
00:36:34.760 --> 00:36:37.920
<v Speaker 3>that tree and that tree, and he starts looking. He's

736
00:36:37.920 --> 00:36:40.559
<v Speaker 3>got the shotgun slung over his shoulder. They're there to

737
00:36:40.960 --> 00:36:44.440
<v Speaker 3>fillip some more buckets. He's looking. He sees movement, but

738
00:36:44.519 --> 00:36:49.039
<v Speaker 3>it's blending in. It's almost like the shadows were moving,

739
00:36:49.400 --> 00:36:51.440
<v Speaker 3>but he couldn't make out an outline. He couldn't make

740
00:36:51.480 --> 00:36:54.000
<v Speaker 3>out anything. It just looked like shadows were moving in

741
00:36:54.079 --> 00:36:57.760
<v Speaker 3>between the trees. This is in the morning hours. The

742
00:36:57.800 --> 00:37:00.960
<v Speaker 3>sun's up. It's not like it's dark or dusk or

743
00:37:01.039 --> 00:37:03.719
<v Speaker 3>real early in the morning where it's really dark in

744
00:37:03.760 --> 00:37:07.320
<v Speaker 3>the trees. They're shadowing, but it's not dark enough to

745
00:37:07.320 --> 00:37:10.880
<v Speaker 3>where he shouldn't make out something. So he's kind of

746
00:37:10.920 --> 00:37:13.119
<v Speaker 3>bewildered by it, and he can't make anything out, so

747
00:37:13.159 --> 00:37:15.639
<v Speaker 3>he dismisses it. He goes, look, it's just a shadow movie.

748
00:37:15.760 --> 00:37:18.599
<v Speaker 3>She's looking and she goes, that's a guy over there.

749
00:37:18.960 --> 00:37:21.360
<v Speaker 3>Now he's looking in between the two trees where he

750
00:37:21.400 --> 00:37:25.159
<v Speaker 3>saw the shadow initially. Well, she's looking past at about

751
00:37:25.199 --> 00:37:28.880
<v Speaker 3>ten fifteen feet where the trees get denser, and he

752
00:37:28.960 --> 00:37:32.239
<v Speaker 3>starts looking again, and sure enough he sees the figure

753
00:37:32.280 --> 00:37:35.239
<v Speaker 3>of a dude, and he's like, hey, hey, starts yelling Hey,

754
00:37:35.440 --> 00:37:37.360
<v Speaker 3>you know you're on private property. You know you're not

755
00:37:37.400 --> 00:37:39.239
<v Speaker 3>supposed to be over here. You go to your own claim.

756
00:37:39.519 --> 00:37:41.679
<v Speaker 3>He thought it was one of the neighbor miners, just

757
00:37:42.000 --> 00:37:43.800
<v Speaker 3>kind of peeking in to see if they're getting any

758
00:37:43.800 --> 00:37:46.800
<v Speaker 3>good paydirt or whatever. So he immediately chalked it up

759
00:37:46.840 --> 00:37:49.320
<v Speaker 3>to a creek. So he you know that creek they're

760
00:37:49.400 --> 00:37:51.519
<v Speaker 3>drawing water from, and stuff wasn't all that deep, and

761
00:37:51.559 --> 00:37:53.679
<v Speaker 3>he had on hip boots. So he starts walking across

762
00:37:53.760 --> 00:37:56.480
<v Speaker 3>yelling at this guy. Right once he clears the water.

763
00:37:56.599 --> 00:38:00.880
<v Speaker 3>Richard said that everything changed when he was coming at

764
00:38:00.920 --> 00:38:05.039
<v Speaker 3>this thing aggressively and crossed that water threshold. He said,

765
00:38:05.119 --> 00:38:08.760
<v Speaker 3>the woods where this thing was standing exploded with noise.

766
00:38:09.400 --> 00:38:11.559
<v Speaker 3>He said that one of the trees that it was

767
00:38:12.119 --> 00:38:15.480
<v Speaker 3>like kind of between it reached out and snapped it

768
00:38:15.599 --> 00:38:18.480
<v Speaker 3>right while I was looking at him, snapped it. Then

769
00:38:18.559 --> 00:38:21.079
<v Speaker 3>the thing stood up. So this thing was squatted down

770
00:38:21.599 --> 00:38:23.920
<v Speaker 3>and it reached out and broke a tree. He said

771
00:38:23.920 --> 00:38:26.599
<v Speaker 3>that tree had to have been eight foot tall. So

772
00:38:26.719 --> 00:38:29.760
<v Speaker 3>this thing stood up. And now understand, this thing was

773
00:38:29.800 --> 00:38:31.599
<v Speaker 3>on a little bit of a rise. It wasn't just

774
00:38:31.679 --> 00:38:34.119
<v Speaker 3>on level ground with Richard, so when it did stand up,

775
00:38:34.159 --> 00:38:37.440
<v Speaker 3>it was towering way over him. He had covered about

776
00:38:38.000 --> 00:38:41.719
<v Speaker 3>twenty yards of that thirty five yard distance across there,

777
00:38:41.760 --> 00:38:44.760
<v Speaker 3>so he is literally looking up at this thing, and

778
00:38:44.800 --> 00:38:47.639
<v Speaker 3>he said it was massive. Once it broke the tree

779
00:38:47.639 --> 00:38:50.199
<v Speaker 3>and stood up, it ripped off the top of that

780
00:38:50.239 --> 00:38:54.039
<v Speaker 3>tree and threw it at Richard right now. He said

781
00:38:54.079 --> 00:38:56.599
<v Speaker 3>when he threw it, it was more like a lazy toss,

782
00:38:56.920 --> 00:38:59.079
<v Speaker 3>but it was very accurate because it landed right at

783
00:38:59.079 --> 00:39:00.960
<v Speaker 3>his feet and kind of knocked him forward a little bit.

784
00:39:01.440 --> 00:39:03.960
<v Speaker 3>He jumps up, starts back, and the way he's trying

785
00:39:03.960 --> 00:39:06.639
<v Speaker 3>to unsling the shotgun because he's got it first style around.

786
00:39:06.760 --> 00:39:09.559
<v Speaker 3>As he's doing that, this thing starts walking off to

787
00:39:09.760 --> 00:39:12.519
<v Speaker 3>Richard's left and going kind of up the hill back

788
00:39:12.599 --> 00:39:14.960
<v Speaker 3>up towards out into this little finger valley where this

789
00:39:15.000 --> 00:39:17.199
<v Speaker 3>creek was coming out of He didn't know what to do.

790
00:39:17.519 --> 00:39:21.320
<v Speaker 3>Richard said, he wet himself. It was so spontaneous. It

791
00:39:21.400 --> 00:39:23.599
<v Speaker 3>wasn't like, you know, I'm scared, I'm gonna pee, he said.

792
00:39:23.599 --> 00:39:28.920
<v Speaker 3>It was totally involuntary. It just happened right well. He

793
00:39:29.000 --> 00:39:31.920
<v Speaker 3>starts backing way, unslinging the shotgun and this thing. He

794
00:39:32.079 --> 00:39:35.679
<v Speaker 3>lost sight of it, so immediately him and Samantha they

795
00:39:35.719 --> 00:39:39.119
<v Speaker 3>take off. Now, when they take off running, he's still

796
00:39:39.119 --> 00:39:41.320
<v Speaker 3>fumbling with the shotgun, trying to make sure it's loaded.

797
00:39:41.800 --> 00:39:45.159
<v Speaker 3>They had a couple of rubber bullets before it got

798
00:39:45.199 --> 00:39:48.199
<v Speaker 3>into slugs, so he's popping those out and trying to

799
00:39:48.199 --> 00:39:50.599
<v Speaker 3>hold on to him as he's running. He was so

800
00:39:50.679 --> 00:39:53.400
<v Speaker 3>uncoordinated because he was so spooped and freaked out. He

801
00:39:53.519 --> 00:39:56.519
<v Speaker 3>just dropped those and slid a slug into the chamber

802
00:39:56.599 --> 00:39:59.960
<v Speaker 3>and put it on safety. Samantha's behind him. He's much taller,

803
00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:02.280
<v Speaker 3>so he immediately got the jump on her. When he

804
00:40:02.320 --> 00:40:05.400
<v Speaker 3>took off, Ronnie, he caught himself and stopped. Samantha was

805
00:40:05.400 --> 00:40:08.239
<v Speaker 3>about ten paces behind him. As he turns around to

806
00:40:08.360 --> 00:40:12.119
<v Speaker 3>look back where the shovels were, he's seen this thing

807
00:40:12.159 --> 00:40:14.760
<v Speaker 3>squatted down, just kind of watching. He said, it had

808
00:40:14.760 --> 00:40:18.239
<v Speaker 3>an ashen gray face. Its eyes were real big but dark.

809
00:40:18.280 --> 00:40:20.599
<v Speaker 3>He couldn't make out any whites of the eyes. He said,

810
00:40:20.639 --> 00:40:24.199
<v Speaker 3>the hair looked almost pitch black. It was basically a

811
00:40:24.239 --> 00:40:24.920
<v Speaker 3>big mass.

812
00:40:26.519 --> 00:40:29.280
<v Speaker 1>And stay tuned for more sasquat jotasy. We'll be right

813
00:40:29.320 --> 00:40:30.800
<v Speaker 1>back after these messages.

814
00:40:34.719 --> 00:40:38.480
<v Speaker 3>Because of Samantha obscuring his vision of totally viewing this thing,

815
00:40:39.000 --> 00:40:40.800
<v Speaker 3>because she was running at it, you know what I mean,

816
00:40:41.079 --> 00:40:43.559
<v Speaker 3>he couldn't get a full visual. He immediately let her

817
00:40:43.760 --> 00:40:46.760
<v Speaker 3>pass him, then turned around and started running behind her.

818
00:40:47.400 --> 00:40:49.639
<v Speaker 3>He said. As they were going along, they still had

819
00:40:49.639 --> 00:40:52.320
<v Speaker 3>a good one hundred yards through this brush to get

820
00:40:52.360 --> 00:40:54.559
<v Speaker 3>to the clearing where his uncle was doing the sluicing.

821
00:40:55.199 --> 00:40:57.679
<v Speaker 3>He said he heard off to his right hand side

822
00:40:57.800 --> 00:41:00.920
<v Speaker 3>crashing and breaking. When they got up where his uncle was,

823
00:41:01.000 --> 00:41:04.000
<v Speaker 3>he turned around. He raised the shotgun because it sounded

824
00:41:04.039 --> 00:41:06.199
<v Speaker 3>like it was right on top of him. When he

825
00:41:06.280 --> 00:41:09.239
<v Speaker 3>did that, his uncle was like, hey, don't shoot, don't shoot,

826
00:41:09.280 --> 00:41:12.440
<v Speaker 3>don't shoot. Richard's like, there's a monster. It's chasing us.

827
00:41:12.800 --> 00:41:15.639
<v Speaker 3>His uncle continues to say, don't shoot, don't shoot, don't shoot.

828
00:41:16.000 --> 00:41:18.440
<v Speaker 3>His uncle comes over and he's trying to calm Richard down.

829
00:41:18.559 --> 00:41:21.760
<v Speaker 3>And he's looking in the direction Richard is. Richard said

830
00:41:22.599 --> 00:41:26.199
<v Speaker 3>that this thing looked like it crawled up into a

831
00:41:26.199 --> 00:41:28.800
<v Speaker 3>better viewing position, was almost like doing a push up

832
00:41:29.159 --> 00:41:31.639
<v Speaker 3>to look over the little berm off to their left

833
00:41:31.639 --> 00:41:34.000
<v Speaker 3>hand side where they were looking to get a look

834
00:41:34.039 --> 00:41:37.119
<v Speaker 3>at depth. His uncle was dump out. He was like,

835
00:41:37.199 --> 00:41:39.559
<v Speaker 3>what the you know, what the fuck is that? So

836
00:41:40.000 --> 00:41:42.280
<v Speaker 3>they're both standing there and they're having this kind of

837
00:41:42.280 --> 00:41:45.360
<v Speaker 3>a Mexican standoff type deal where Richard's looking and pointing

838
00:41:45.440 --> 00:41:48.719
<v Speaker 3>the shot. Richard said that this thing just looked genuinely curious.

839
00:41:48.840 --> 00:41:50.639
<v Speaker 3>Was just kind of doing the head back and forth

840
00:41:50.679 --> 00:41:53.960
<v Speaker 3>side to side like a dog would, but looking at him.

841
00:41:54.199 --> 00:41:56.360
<v Speaker 3>As they're doing that, he said, it seemed like time

842
00:41:56.360 --> 00:41:59.320
<v Speaker 3>stood still. He said he heard nothing his uncle was

843
00:41:59.320 --> 00:42:02.079
<v Speaker 3>saying at that, And I guess his uncle, according to

844
00:42:02.079 --> 00:42:04.679
<v Speaker 3>what Samantha was saying, was telling him, don't point a

845
00:42:04.679 --> 00:42:06.159
<v Speaker 3>gun at it. Don't point a gun at it. I

846
00:42:06.199 --> 00:42:07.679
<v Speaker 3>don't know what it is, but don't point a gun.

847
00:42:07.719 --> 00:42:11.360
<v Speaker 3>It looks like a man. So Samantha was already on

848
00:42:11.360 --> 00:42:13.599
<v Speaker 3>the other side of the sluice box kind of squatted down,

849
00:42:13.719 --> 00:42:17.519
<v Speaker 3>looking at everything unfolding in front of her. She said

850
00:42:17.559 --> 00:42:20.519
<v Speaker 3>that once Richard lowered the gun just a little bit,

851
00:42:20.719 --> 00:42:24.360
<v Speaker 3>this thing stood up, turned, came down onto the trail,

852
00:42:24.599 --> 00:42:27.480
<v Speaker 3>and then took back off, going the direction they just

853
00:42:27.559 --> 00:42:29.760
<v Speaker 3>camp from, running down the trail this time right and

854
00:42:29.960 --> 00:42:33.519
<v Speaker 3>plain view of everyone runs off. So they're all stood there,

855
00:42:33.559 --> 00:42:35.519
<v Speaker 3>just stuck, like what the hell is going on?

856
00:42:35.840 --> 00:42:36.039
<v Speaker 4>Right?

857
00:42:36.599 --> 00:42:40.679
<v Speaker 3>Well, there's this guy about fifteen minutes later, because where

858
00:42:40.760 --> 00:42:44.079
<v Speaker 3>the sluice was set up was near the road, this

859
00:42:44.119 --> 00:42:46.960
<v Speaker 3>particular guy coming by a little while later always stopped

860
00:42:47.000 --> 00:42:50.239
<v Speaker 3>in to check on Richard's uncle. He pulls in and

861
00:42:50.280 --> 00:42:52.800
<v Speaker 3>they're all still shook. Richard was smoking a cigarette with

862
00:42:52.840 --> 00:42:55.239
<v Speaker 3>his uncle there. He was telling him everything that happened.

863
00:42:55.320 --> 00:42:58.239
<v Speaker 3>This guy that came into their little camp came over

864
00:42:58.280 --> 00:43:00.320
<v Speaker 3>to talk to his uncle and kind of over heard,

865
00:43:00.360 --> 00:43:03.000
<v Speaker 3>and you know, his uncle starts explaining to the guy

866
00:43:03.039 --> 00:43:06.320
<v Speaker 3>what just happened. The guy was like, oh, we call

867
00:43:06.440 --> 00:43:09.159
<v Speaker 3>him the big one. Everyone was blown away. What do

868
00:43:09.159 --> 00:43:10.880
<v Speaker 3>you mean the big one? He goes the biggest one

869
00:43:10.880 --> 00:43:13.639
<v Speaker 3>of the group, and they're up and down in through here.

870
00:43:14.039 --> 00:43:15.960
<v Speaker 3>You know, just be aware, you leave them alone, they'll

871
00:43:16.039 --> 00:43:21.119
<v Speaker 3>leave you alone kind of thing. Well, immediately Richard's like bullshit.

872
00:43:21.199 --> 00:43:23.119
<v Speaker 3>It threw a piece of tree at me, but it

873
00:43:23.199 --> 00:43:25.559
<v Speaker 3>was stocking my wife. What do you mean, it'll leave

874
00:43:25.559 --> 00:43:27.400
<v Speaker 3>you alone? He took that tone with the guy, and

875
00:43:27.400 --> 00:43:29.599
<v Speaker 3>the guy was like, look, just leave it alone. It'll

876
00:43:29.679 --> 00:43:32.039
<v Speaker 3>leave you alone. They weren't accepting that, you know what

877
00:43:32.079 --> 00:43:35.320
<v Speaker 3>I mean. Long story short, as far as them packing

878
00:43:35.400 --> 00:43:38.360
<v Speaker 3>up and leaving, they stop. They made it not very

879
00:43:38.400 --> 00:43:40.639
<v Speaker 3>many days, just a few days. They made it doing

880
00:43:40.679 --> 00:43:43.920
<v Speaker 3>that with their uncle until this incident happened. You know,

881
00:43:43.960 --> 00:43:45.360
<v Speaker 3>they were just getting the hang of it from what

882
00:43:45.400 --> 00:43:48.239
<v Speaker 3>they were saying. The uncle was still nice enough to share.

883
00:43:48.719 --> 00:43:51.360
<v Speaker 3>God bless him. He since passed, but he was nice

884
00:43:51.440 --> 00:43:54.440
<v Speaker 3>enough to share the gains from while they were there.

885
00:43:54.519 --> 00:43:57.320
<v Speaker 3>I want to thank Richard and Samantha for sharing that. Again,

886
00:43:57.400 --> 00:43:59.800
<v Speaker 3>this is down in the Hope area. There's a lot

887
00:43:59.840 --> 00:44:03.760
<v Speaker 3>of people that have these experiences out there, like John

888
00:44:04.039 --> 00:44:07.880
<v Speaker 3>from the interview yesterday. It's almost finding Waldough. You know

889
00:44:07.920 --> 00:44:10.719
<v Speaker 3>where's Waldough? You spot him in those little puzzle books

890
00:44:10.760 --> 00:44:12.920
<v Speaker 3>and stuff. But once you figure out what Waldo really

891
00:44:12.960 --> 00:44:15.000
<v Speaker 3>looks like, you kind of easily pick them out as

892
00:44:15.039 --> 00:44:17.639
<v Speaker 3>you go through, you know what I mean. It's almost

893
00:44:17.679 --> 00:44:20.639
<v Speaker 3>like that, once you see one of these things, it

894
00:44:20.719 --> 00:44:22.599
<v Speaker 3>almost makes it easier to see him. I don't know,

895
00:44:22.639 --> 00:44:26.880
<v Speaker 3>it's kind of weird, just an observation. So this happened

896
00:44:26.920 --> 00:44:31.239
<v Speaker 3>outside of Cordova. Prince William sound. Brian and Derek really

897
00:44:31.239 --> 00:44:35.559
<v Speaker 3>good buddies, longtime buddies, love blacktail hunting. It so happened

898
00:44:35.559 --> 00:44:39.079
<v Speaker 3>they came across some property right on the water. It

899
00:44:39.119 --> 00:44:41.760
<v Speaker 3>was about ten acres or so. Brian wanted to go

900
00:44:41.840 --> 00:44:45.239
<v Speaker 3>check it out, so he got a hold of Derek.

901
00:44:45.280 --> 00:44:48.320
<v Speaker 3>Derek was game. They decided they're going to go two birds,

902
00:44:48.320 --> 00:44:51.559
<v Speaker 3>one stone, check out this property, also get some hunting

903
00:44:51.599 --> 00:44:55.079
<v Speaker 3>in right. This particular property had a little cove. It

904
00:44:55.119 --> 00:45:00.320
<v Speaker 3>wasn't necessarily a safe cove, but it was doable, you

905
00:45:00.360 --> 00:45:02.000
<v Speaker 3>know what I mean. If he did get it, he

906
00:45:02.000 --> 00:45:03.679
<v Speaker 3>would have to drag his boat up on the shore

907
00:45:03.679 --> 00:45:06.000
<v Speaker 3>and whatnot, and you know, deal with the tides and

908
00:45:06.039 --> 00:45:08.360
<v Speaker 3>stuff like that. But it wasn't like a safe harbor,

909
00:45:09.000 --> 00:45:11.320
<v Speaker 3>but it was a cove. It would be the only

910
00:45:11.360 --> 00:45:14.760
<v Speaker 3>cabin if he built one in this particular area. So

911
00:45:15.079 --> 00:45:18.400
<v Speaker 3>from what they said they had planned on they usually

912
00:45:18.400 --> 00:45:21.400
<v Speaker 3>went hunting for about a week, regardless of looking at

913
00:45:21.440 --> 00:45:25.079
<v Speaker 3>property or not. So Brian said, when they got there

914
00:45:25.400 --> 00:45:28.480
<v Speaker 3>it was eerily quiet. There was no songbirds, there was

915
00:45:28.519 --> 00:45:30.760
<v Speaker 3>no squirrel chatter, there was nothing. It was just dead

916
00:45:30.840 --> 00:45:33.920
<v Speaker 3>quiet when they pulled up. So they double check coordinances

917
00:45:33.960 --> 00:45:35.480
<v Speaker 3>and made sure they were in the right spot, and

918
00:45:35.519 --> 00:45:38.599
<v Speaker 3>they were. They started looking for the markers that had

919
00:45:38.800 --> 00:45:42.360
<v Speaker 3>been placed, boundary markers and whatnot. So as they're going through,

920
00:45:42.920 --> 00:45:45.599
<v Speaker 3>Derek tells Brian, man, I feel like I'm being watched,

921
00:45:46.239 --> 00:45:48.400
<v Speaker 3>you know. Brian's like, well, just keep your eye out.

922
00:45:49.159 --> 00:45:52.599
<v Speaker 3>They were both armed. Derek said that he was carrying

923
00:45:52.599 --> 00:45:56.159
<v Speaker 3>a ten millimeter Sema Otto had extra mags for it.

924
00:45:56.360 --> 00:46:00.320
<v Speaker 3>He only used a two seventy wind mag for blacktail hunting,

925
00:46:00.360 --> 00:46:04.400
<v Speaker 3>which is sufficient that are black bear regardless, there's plenty

926
00:46:04.480 --> 00:46:07.079
<v Speaker 3>enough rifle for what he was looking at. Brian three

927
00:46:07.159 --> 00:46:09.800
<v Speaker 3>hundred win mag get a nine millimeters pistol of some kind.

928
00:46:10.119 --> 00:46:13.719
<v Speaker 3>He didn't elaborate. They're going through, they're checking out this property,

929
00:46:13.719 --> 00:46:16.519
<v Speaker 3>they're checking out the stakes. Everything's lining up. They're liking

930
00:46:16.559 --> 00:46:19.239
<v Speaker 3>the looks of it. Brian's getting really stoked because he'd

931
00:46:19.239 --> 00:46:22.480
<v Speaker 3>been saving money for a while for a little vacation property,

932
00:46:22.519 --> 00:46:25.239
<v Speaker 3>a little getaway property, and it was looking great. I mean,

933
00:46:25.599 --> 00:46:28.079
<v Speaker 3>the views from where they were standing were good. They

934
00:46:28.079 --> 00:46:30.519
<v Speaker 3>were just enjoying the hell out of it, right, So

935
00:46:31.119 --> 00:46:33.360
<v Speaker 3>he made a mental note, I definitely want to look

936
00:46:33.360 --> 00:46:37.400
<v Speaker 3>into purchasing this. That being settled, they continued on with

937
00:46:37.440 --> 00:46:39.679
<v Speaker 3>their hunt. They drag a bunch of stuff on the shore.

938
00:46:39.760 --> 00:46:44.039
<v Speaker 3>They cut back into this little cubby that is basically

939
00:46:44.119 --> 00:46:46.559
<v Speaker 3>a rock base with a bunch of moss around it.

940
00:46:46.639 --> 00:46:49.039
<v Speaker 3>They ended up digging a fire pit down to the

941
00:46:49.079 --> 00:46:52.039
<v Speaker 3>bedrock which was just below the moss. Basically right, because

942
00:46:52.039 --> 00:46:55.840
<v Speaker 3>you got to understand down southeast area, everything's fjored like

943
00:46:55.920 --> 00:46:58.960
<v Speaker 3>it comes straight out of the water and starts elevating fats.

944
00:46:59.119 --> 00:47:00.920
<v Speaker 3>You can look at all the time upographical maps you

945
00:47:00.960 --> 00:47:04.119
<v Speaker 3>want about that area. It's all about the same. This

946
00:47:04.159 --> 00:47:08.920
<v Speaker 3>particular spot had about fifty yards of a gentle slope

947
00:47:09.159 --> 00:47:13.159
<v Speaker 3>before it started just really getting bonkers on the elevation changes.

948
00:47:13.239 --> 00:47:13.440
<v Speaker 4>Right.

949
00:47:14.320 --> 00:47:16.920
<v Speaker 3>So they're in this little spot and basically they have

950
00:47:17.519 --> 00:47:19.960
<v Speaker 3>a rock back drop behind them where they get set

951
00:47:20.039 --> 00:47:22.039
<v Speaker 3>up their tent. They got enough space there for a

952
00:47:22.039 --> 00:47:24.239
<v Speaker 3>good fire pit that ain't too close to where they're camping,

953
00:47:24.280 --> 00:47:27.320
<v Speaker 3>and they're just really really feeling it for the first

954
00:47:27.360 --> 00:47:30.519
<v Speaker 3>couple of days, right, dead quiet this whole time, which

955
00:47:30.599 --> 00:47:32.519
<v Speaker 3>they were both starting to get concerned about They're like,

956
00:47:32.559 --> 00:47:35.000
<v Speaker 3>maybe there's some black bearris we're unaware of in this area.

957
00:47:35.039 --> 00:47:37.079
<v Speaker 3>So let's keep our eye out. Let's keep our food

958
00:47:37.760 --> 00:47:41.239
<v Speaker 3>in a safe place away from us. Up High, they

959
00:47:41.239 --> 00:47:43.320
<v Speaker 3>got the para cord out, they got what food out

960
00:47:43.320 --> 00:47:46.199
<v Speaker 3>they were going to eat for that evening. They hung

961
00:47:46.239 --> 00:47:49.880
<v Speaker 3>their cooler up from a tree way up high, had

962
00:47:49.920 --> 00:47:53.039
<v Speaker 3>the line running away to another separate tree that was

963
00:47:53.280 --> 00:47:56.119
<v Speaker 3>unaffiliated with where the cooler was at. You know, they

964
00:47:56.119 --> 00:47:59.400
<v Speaker 3>were smart about it. So the first couple of days

965
00:47:59.840 --> 00:48:02.840
<v Speaker 3>was dead quiet, no game, no signs of game. All

966
00:48:02.880 --> 00:48:05.559
<v Speaker 3>the tracks they came across were old, not even sign

967
00:48:05.599 --> 00:48:09.079
<v Speaker 3>of bear. So on that second day, Brian was up

968
00:48:09.079 --> 00:48:11.480
<v Speaker 3>in this one spot. It was basically a ground blind

969
00:48:11.480 --> 00:48:15.960
<v Speaker 3>they made while Derek was down basically beach combing seeing

970
00:48:15.960 --> 00:48:17.920
<v Speaker 3>if any deer come down onto the beach and he

971
00:48:17.960 --> 00:48:22.159
<v Speaker 3>could bag is his deer like that. During that second day,

972
00:48:22.480 --> 00:48:24.880
<v Speaker 3>when Brian was up in this little ground blind they

973
00:48:24.880 --> 00:48:28.000
<v Speaker 3>had made because behind him was just rock wall, there

974
00:48:28.039 --> 00:48:30.679
<v Speaker 3>was some smaller brush and trees that was just perfect

975
00:48:30.719 --> 00:48:33.079
<v Speaker 3>for him to lay some drop dunnage and stuff right

976
00:48:33.119 --> 00:48:35.880
<v Speaker 3>there for perfect ground blind. He said, as he was

977
00:48:35.920 --> 00:48:38.880
<v Speaker 3>sitting there. He kept feeling like he was being watched.

978
00:48:38.920 --> 00:48:40.760
<v Speaker 3>It felt like it's coming from behind him. But he

979
00:48:40.800 --> 00:48:43.199
<v Speaker 3>had rocks behind him, tall rocks that were like, you know,

980
00:48:43.639 --> 00:48:46.920
<v Speaker 3>twenty five thirty feet in elevation above and behind him.

981
00:48:47.199 --> 00:48:49.280
<v Speaker 3>So once a while he would look up and behind him.

982
00:48:49.400 --> 00:48:52.159
<v Speaker 3>He wasn't seeing anything. He was just getting creeped out

983
00:48:52.199 --> 00:48:56.280
<v Speaker 3>big time. That day goes on dead, Derek saw one

984
00:48:56.320 --> 00:49:00.559
<v Speaker 3>deer across this little inlet was poofield was gon. He

985
00:49:00.599 --> 00:49:03.360
<v Speaker 3>wasn't going to chase it because he had probably a

986
00:49:03.440 --> 00:49:05.360
<v Speaker 3>mile and a half to get around to where he

987
00:49:05.400 --> 00:49:08.400
<v Speaker 3>saw it at going by the beach, and that thing

988
00:49:08.480 --> 00:49:10.440
<v Speaker 3>was long gone. He wasn't even after it. It was

989
00:49:10.480 --> 00:49:13.000
<v Speaker 3>like that's just way too much, especially after a long

990
00:49:13.079 --> 00:49:15.239
<v Speaker 3>day of going back and forth. Derek said he spent

991
00:49:15.280 --> 00:49:18.239
<v Speaker 3>a lot of that day sitting on rocks just inside

992
00:49:18.280 --> 00:49:20.800
<v Speaker 3>the brush line, just kind of watching the shoreline for

993
00:49:20.920 --> 00:49:25.679
<v Speaker 3>any sign of anything dead. Quiet. So that night, their

994
00:49:25.719 --> 00:49:29.719
<v Speaker 3>second night there, from what Derek said, Brian was beat

995
00:49:30.039 --> 00:49:33.239
<v Speaker 3>because where he had this little ground blind, it was

996
00:49:33.280 --> 00:49:35.440
<v Speaker 3>work to get up there. It was above a game

997
00:49:35.519 --> 00:49:40.719
<v Speaker 3>trail by about seventy feet. It basically boiled down to

998
00:49:41.039 --> 00:49:43.559
<v Speaker 3>Brian hadn't been in the best of shape and he

999
00:49:43.679 --> 00:49:46.199
<v Speaker 3>was paying the price for it. Brian admitted that his

1000
00:49:46.280 --> 00:49:49.119
<v Speaker 3>cardio wasn't up to par. He was just wiped out.

1001
00:49:49.280 --> 00:49:52.719
<v Speaker 3>So Derek is out, He's cooking the dinner and Brian's

1002
00:49:52.719 --> 00:49:55.079
<v Speaker 3>gonna crash a little bit and he'll eat later. You know,

1003
00:49:55.119 --> 00:49:57.639
<v Speaker 3>that was their plan. So from what Derek was saying,

1004
00:49:58.440 --> 00:50:02.519
<v Speaker 3>this little spot was us elevated and it sloped away

1005
00:50:02.519 --> 00:50:04.480
<v Speaker 3>from where their fire pit was, so it sloped down

1006
00:50:04.519 --> 00:50:07.800
<v Speaker 3>and it reached brush and basically they had a panoramic

1007
00:50:07.920 --> 00:50:12.599
<v Speaker 3>view about one hundred and eighty degrees or so out

1008
00:50:12.599 --> 00:50:15.360
<v Speaker 3>in front of them. There's bigger old growth trees around,

1009
00:50:15.440 --> 00:50:18.079
<v Speaker 3>but they were a little less dense in that area

1010
00:50:18.159 --> 00:50:21.199
<v Speaker 3>and it's mainly shrubs. But they could see out into

1011
00:50:21.199 --> 00:50:24.280
<v Speaker 3>this little inlet just perfectly right, and the wind was

1012
00:50:24.320 --> 00:50:28.159
<v Speaker 3>blowing directly inbounds, so they were blocked. Their fire was good,

1013
00:50:28.920 --> 00:50:31.639
<v Speaker 3>and he was just enjoying the scene. Dead quiet. Now,

1014
00:50:32.199 --> 00:50:33.840
<v Speaker 3>like I said, where they were camped, it was about

1015
00:50:33.840 --> 00:50:37.320
<v Speaker 3>twenty five thirty foot up sheer rock, and then there

1016
00:50:37.360 --> 00:50:38.719
<v Speaker 3>was a little bit of a cliff and then more

1017
00:50:38.760 --> 00:50:41.440
<v Speaker 3>trees started and stuff. So as he was sitting there,

1018
00:50:41.840 --> 00:50:43.760
<v Speaker 3>he was paying attention to the fire, kind of not.

1019
00:50:43.920 --> 00:50:46.239
<v Speaker 3>They had a little tripod deal of cast iron with

1020
00:50:46.320 --> 00:50:48.760
<v Speaker 3>a kettle on it. He was basically heating up beans

1021
00:50:48.760 --> 00:50:51.360
<v Speaker 3>and francs. I had an adjustable chain, sover once in

1022
00:50:51.360 --> 00:50:53.320
<v Speaker 3>a while he was adjusting the chain so it wouldn't

1023
00:50:53.320 --> 00:50:55.480
<v Speaker 3>burn and stuff. When you're dealing with cast iron, anyone

1024
00:50:55.480 --> 00:50:57.679
<v Speaker 3>who's worked over a fire with it, nos, you got

1025
00:50:57.679 --> 00:50:59.800
<v Speaker 3>to be able to elevate it away from the heat

1026
00:50:59.800 --> 00:51:01.639
<v Speaker 3>to control it. Otherwise you're just going to burn the

1027
00:51:01.639 --> 00:51:04.360
<v Speaker 3>shit out of stuff. So Derek is working that He's

1028
00:51:04.360 --> 00:51:06.840
<v Speaker 3>sitting back and just enjoying the view. The fire is

1029
00:51:06.840 --> 00:51:09.920
<v Speaker 3>in front of him and he's watching the kettle. He's like, yeah,

1030
00:51:09.920 --> 00:51:12.400
<v Speaker 3>it's about warm enough. You know, the dogs are probably

1031
00:51:12.400 --> 00:51:14.960
<v Speaker 3>cooked in there by now, he said. Just as he

1032
00:51:15.079 --> 00:51:19.760
<v Speaker 3>stood up, he saw a branch falling land right in

1033
00:51:19.800 --> 00:51:21.760
<v Speaker 3>the fire, right next to a little tripod thing, and

1034
00:51:21.760 --> 00:51:24.679
<v Speaker 3>he was like, whoa. He looked up behind him, saw

1035
00:51:24.719 --> 00:51:27.400
<v Speaker 3>nothing and figured, oh, that little bit of wind must

1036
00:51:27.440 --> 00:51:30.440
<v Speaker 3>have knocked a branch loose that was already broken and

1037
00:51:30.440 --> 00:51:33.119
<v Speaker 3>it just kind of flung and happenstance landed by the fire.

1038
00:51:33.280 --> 00:51:36.559
<v Speaker 3>Thought nothing of it goes over and starts dishing up

1039
00:51:37.159 --> 00:51:40.159
<v Speaker 3>into his little stainless steel bowl, and he said he

1040
00:51:40.280 --> 00:51:42.679
<v Speaker 3>was feeling like he's being watching. He looks back up

1041
00:51:42.719 --> 00:51:45.440
<v Speaker 3>behind him real fast because he's just getting the creeps right,

1042
00:51:46.079 --> 00:51:48.840
<v Speaker 3>and he says he saw a movement, but he couldn't

1043
00:51:48.880 --> 00:51:51.280
<v Speaker 3>make it out. He wasn't sure if he was just turning,

1044
00:51:51.440 --> 00:51:54.039
<v Speaker 3>and the moss there kind of looked like it moved.

1045
00:51:54.119 --> 00:51:56.719
<v Speaker 3>He was thrown off by it as he's trying to

1046
00:51:56.760 --> 00:51:58.840
<v Speaker 3>figure out what the hell, you know, because he's really

1047
00:51:58.840 --> 00:52:01.960
<v Speaker 3>got the ebgb's, I mean, he's freaking out. So he

1048
00:52:02.039 --> 00:52:04.519
<v Speaker 3>goes over. He had his ten millimeter on his hip

1049
00:52:04.519 --> 00:52:07.400
<v Speaker 3>at all times, so he goes over. He had unloaded

1050
00:52:07.440 --> 00:52:09.000
<v Speaker 3>the round out of his chamber out of his two

1051
00:52:09.079 --> 00:52:12.039
<v Speaker 3>seventy earlier when they first got back to camp, so

1052
00:52:12.159 --> 00:52:14.519
<v Speaker 3>he went back over it chambered around in it, right.

1053
00:52:14.960 --> 00:52:17.519
<v Speaker 3>He wakes Brian up. Brian was real groggy and tired,

1054
00:52:17.559 --> 00:52:19.760
<v Speaker 3>but he was like, don't be paranoid. There hasn't been

1055
00:52:19.920 --> 00:52:22.400
<v Speaker 3>even any animals here, so chill out. You know, if

1056
00:52:22.400 --> 00:52:25.320
<v Speaker 3>anything it was, you know, maybe a lone fox or

1057
00:52:25.400 --> 00:52:27.920
<v Speaker 3>something that just peaked at you or whatever and just

1058
00:52:28.039 --> 00:52:30.199
<v Speaker 3>freaked out. Maybe it was a moss, you know, gave

1059
00:52:30.280 --> 00:52:33.480
<v Speaker 3>him some excuses and you know he reasoned it away

1060
00:52:33.519 --> 00:52:36.599
<v Speaker 3>and left it at that. Well, it being in the

1061
00:52:36.639 --> 00:52:40.599
<v Speaker 3>early fall time, our midfall ish down southeast, there's still

1062
00:52:40.599 --> 00:52:42.480
<v Speaker 3>a bunch of leaves on the trees. It wasn't like,

1063
00:52:42.599 --> 00:52:44.760
<v Speaker 3>I mean, our leaves fall up here long before there's

1064
00:52:44.840 --> 00:52:48.199
<v Speaker 3>due down there, right, It's just a matter of you know,

1065
00:52:48.800 --> 00:52:52.199
<v Speaker 3>going further north and whatnot. So Derek's calms down after

1066
00:52:52.239 --> 00:52:55.039
<v Speaker 3>a while, he starts getting feeling like he's being watched again.

1067
00:52:55.440 --> 00:52:57.840
<v Speaker 3>This time he's fighting his senses because he feels like

1068
00:52:57.880 --> 00:53:00.519
<v Speaker 3>he's just spooked and he's feeling like a little ten

1069
00:53:00.599 --> 00:53:02.639
<v Speaker 3>year old kid scared of the dark because it's starting

1070
00:53:02.679 --> 00:53:04.960
<v Speaker 3>to get dark. He's trying to make sense of these

1071
00:53:05.000 --> 00:53:07.679
<v Speaker 3>weird feelings he's having, and he's feeling like something's watching

1072
00:53:07.719 --> 00:53:09.840
<v Speaker 3>him off to his left hand side, and every once

1073
00:53:09.840 --> 00:53:12.199
<v Speaker 3>in a while he'll glance over and he won't see anything.

1074
00:53:12.239 --> 00:53:16.320
<v Speaker 3>He's getting flustered because it's not adding up, and so

1075
00:53:16.440 --> 00:53:19.039
<v Speaker 3>he's feeling like, in his words, he was starting to

1076
00:53:19.039 --> 00:53:22.440
<v Speaker 3>feel like a woofs for getting rattled for nothing. They're

1077
00:53:22.440 --> 00:53:26.000
<v Speaker 3>in a safe spot, nothing around, he's got guns, you know,

1078
00:53:26.039 --> 00:53:29.000
<v Speaker 3>there's nothing to be scared of. So he eats, and

1079
00:53:29.079 --> 00:53:32.559
<v Speaker 3>he said he decided instead of letting his dish just

1080
00:53:32.719 --> 00:53:35.039
<v Speaker 3>sit dirty, he was going to walk down to the

1081
00:53:35.079 --> 00:53:39.280
<v Speaker 3>waterline before got real dark and wash out utensils and stuff.

1082
00:53:39.920 --> 00:53:42.920
<v Speaker 3>And so he wakes Brian up and goes, hey, you

1083
00:53:42.960 --> 00:53:45.000
<v Speaker 3>want to eat before I clean up? You know, I

1084
00:53:45.079 --> 00:53:47.000
<v Speaker 3>want to be beare safe, and I want to get

1085
00:53:47.000 --> 00:53:49.239
<v Speaker 3>this kettle cleaned out. I don't want stuff to stick

1086
00:53:49.280 --> 00:53:52.360
<v Speaker 3>in to it. I'll put the leftovers in a tupperwar

1087
00:53:52.400 --> 00:53:54.119
<v Speaker 3>put it in the cooler and all this right, And

1088
00:53:54.159 --> 00:53:56.840
<v Speaker 3>Brian's like, I'm too tired, just you know, put it up.

1089
00:53:56.880 --> 00:53:58.840
<v Speaker 3>I'll eat it in the morning or maybe a midnight

1090
00:53:58.880 --> 00:54:01.519
<v Speaker 3>snack or something. Right. So Derek's like, all right, I

1091
00:54:01.519 --> 00:54:03.960
<v Speaker 3>warned you. You know, I asked you. So he goes

1092
00:54:04.280 --> 00:54:07.800
<v Speaker 3>He puts the food in the tupperware dish, lowers down

1093
00:54:07.840 --> 00:54:10.639
<v Speaker 3>the cooler, puts it in there, drags it back up,

1094
00:54:10.719 --> 00:54:13.639
<v Speaker 3>ties it back off, comes back up, retrieves a kettle.

1095
00:54:14.440 --> 00:54:16.360
<v Speaker 3>He could have sworn the big spoon he had in

1096
00:54:16.440 --> 00:54:18.320
<v Speaker 3>there was still in the kettle, but it was missing.

1097
00:54:18.440 --> 00:54:20.480
<v Speaker 3>He's like, well, that's weird. Maybe I dropped it. So

1098
00:54:20.519 --> 00:54:22.239
<v Speaker 3>he's looking around for a minute. Go screw it out,

1099
00:54:22.239 --> 00:54:25.079
<v Speaker 3>I'll find it. Takes a kettle along with his plate,

1100
00:54:25.159 --> 00:54:27.679
<v Speaker 3>drops his little bowl in there and his utensil, and

1101
00:54:27.719 --> 00:54:30.440
<v Speaker 3>goes down to the water. He slung his rifle over

1102
00:54:30.480 --> 00:54:33.480
<v Speaker 3>his shoulder as he started down the trail. It wasn't

1103
00:54:33.480 --> 00:54:36.480
<v Speaker 3>horribly dark, from what he said. It was easily light

1104
00:54:36.599 --> 00:54:38.960
<v Speaker 3>enough to see. He didn't even worry about a flashlight.

1105
00:54:39.039 --> 00:54:42.280
<v Speaker 3>But it was going on to be getting into darkness

1106
00:54:42.360 --> 00:54:45.599
<v Speaker 3>real soon. So he gets down there and he's mindful

1107
00:54:45.599 --> 00:54:48.920
<v Speaker 3>of his surroundings. He's constantly looking around. He's washing stuff out,

1108
00:54:49.000 --> 00:54:51.559
<v Speaker 3>you know, and he gets it all cleaned up and stuff.

1109
00:54:51.639 --> 00:54:54.480
<v Speaker 3>At this point, the tide had started going out, so

1110
00:54:54.519 --> 00:54:56.000
<v Speaker 3>he had to go a little ways to get down

1111
00:54:56.000 --> 00:54:57.880
<v Speaker 3>to the water. So the rocks were a little slippery

1112
00:54:57.880 --> 00:55:01.480
<v Speaker 3>and stuff. So he was navigating that, negotiating his way

1113
00:55:01.480 --> 00:55:03.360
<v Speaker 3>back up to the trail that led up to where

1114
00:55:03.360 --> 00:55:06.880
<v Speaker 3>they were camping. He said, once he got onto non

1115
00:55:07.000 --> 00:55:11.239
<v Speaker 3>slippery gravel of the beach, he got the overwhelming sense

1116
00:55:11.239 --> 00:55:13.000
<v Speaker 3>of being watched again. He said. He was taking a

1117
00:55:13.000 --> 00:55:15.679
<v Speaker 3>hard look. He was just looking up and down the tree,

1118
00:55:15.760 --> 00:55:18.159
<v Speaker 3>you know, because it was the cut bank and stuff.

1119
00:55:18.199 --> 00:55:20.119
<v Speaker 3>With the way the trees were, everything was kind of

1120
00:55:20.199 --> 00:55:22.159
<v Speaker 3>leaned over and there was a lot of shadowing and

1121
00:55:22.199 --> 00:55:23.880
<v Speaker 3>he couldn't make out a whole lot, so he just

1122
00:55:23.880 --> 00:55:27.239
<v Speaker 3>got the creeps. Figured, Okay, I'm freaking myself out. I

1123
00:55:27.280 --> 00:55:29.039
<v Speaker 3>need to stop. Let me just take this stuff up

1124
00:55:29.039 --> 00:55:31.000
<v Speaker 3>to camp and i'll call it at night here in

1125
00:55:31.039 --> 00:55:33.280
<v Speaker 3>a little bit. So from what he was saying as

1126
00:55:33.320 --> 00:55:36.280
<v Speaker 3>he was going back up this trail, and again it's

1127
00:55:36.280 --> 00:55:40.159
<v Speaker 3>about fifty yards pretty decent slope, but not as bad

1128
00:55:40.199 --> 00:55:42.920
<v Speaker 3>as it turned into just from where their camping area

1129
00:55:42.960 --> 00:55:47.159
<v Speaker 3>was on up the elevation change was drastic, so he's

1130
00:55:47.559 --> 00:55:49.719
<v Speaker 3>taking his time hiking up there, and because he had

1131
00:55:49.719 --> 00:55:52.159
<v Speaker 3>been hiking all day, he was pretty tired. So about

1132
00:55:52.159 --> 00:55:54.800
<v Speaker 3>halfway or so, he stopped and he set the kettle

1133
00:55:54.840 --> 00:55:57.360
<v Speaker 3>and stuff down with his dish in it. He said

1134
00:55:57.360 --> 00:55:59.559
<v Speaker 3>it made a little bit of a clank sound, and

1135
00:55:59.639 --> 00:56:02.559
<v Speaker 3>it was a dulled clank because of the moss he

1136
00:56:02.639 --> 00:56:05.000
<v Speaker 3>dropped it in instead of just dropping it on a rocket.

1137
00:56:05.039 --> 00:56:07.800
<v Speaker 3>It clang. It was kind of like clunk. He said.

1138
00:56:08.039 --> 00:56:12.199
<v Speaker 3>He heard that sound coming from about twenty five feet

1139
00:56:12.239 --> 00:56:15.039
<v Speaker 3>away off in the brush where he couldn't see the

1140
00:56:15.079 --> 00:56:17.800
<v Speaker 3>same clunk sound. He said it wasn't quite the same,

1141
00:56:17.840 --> 00:56:19.719
<v Speaker 3>but it was like an imitation of it, and he

1142
00:56:19.800 --> 00:56:22.360
<v Speaker 3>was like, there's no way that was an echo. Kind

1143
00:56:22.360 --> 00:56:24.880
<v Speaker 3>of got freaked out again, picked up that kettle and

1144
00:56:25.320 --> 00:56:27.599
<v Speaker 3>continued walking. He was he was a little more motivated.

1145
00:56:27.599 --> 00:56:31.239
<v Speaker 3>He got a little adrenaline rush, so he kicks on

1146
00:56:31.360 --> 00:56:34.440
<v Speaker 3>up to the campsite. Brian had got up. Brian was

1147
00:56:34.480 --> 00:56:37.239
<v Speaker 3>stoking the fire when he came back up. He saw

1148
00:56:37.320 --> 00:56:39.000
<v Speaker 3>him from a little bit of a distance and called

1149
00:56:39.000 --> 00:56:40.800
<v Speaker 3>out to him, Oh you're up. You missed the food,

1150
00:56:40.800 --> 00:56:42.840
<v Speaker 3>and YadA, YadA. Brian was just like, you know, going

1151
00:56:43.000 --> 00:56:45.159
<v Speaker 3>doing this number, like don't talk, you know, going like this,

1152
00:56:45.880 --> 00:56:48.639
<v Speaker 3>and Derek was like, all right. So he gets up

1153
00:56:48.679 --> 00:56:51.159
<v Speaker 3>to the campsite, says, stuff down and whispers what's going on.

1154
00:56:51.400 --> 00:56:56.440
<v Speaker 3>Brian faces him and says, look off to our left,

1155
00:56:56.559 --> 00:57:01.199
<v Speaker 3>my left, you're right down this hill about twenty five yards.

1156
00:57:01.960 --> 00:57:05.679
<v Speaker 3>There's something down there in the brush. He looks off

1157
00:57:05.719 --> 00:57:08.960
<v Speaker 3>to his right and he's not seeing it right, and

1158
00:57:09.000 --> 00:57:10.840
<v Speaker 3>he goes, are you sure, and he goes, I don't know.

1159
00:57:10.880 --> 00:57:14.079
<v Speaker 3>I was woke up. Something was throwing small rocks at

1160
00:57:14.119 --> 00:57:16.840
<v Speaker 3>the tent and it woke me up because just as

1161
00:57:16.880 --> 00:57:18.960
<v Speaker 3>you were leaving. I was trying to fall back asleep,

1162
00:57:19.360 --> 00:57:22.360
<v Speaker 3>and that's when it started. He said, well, how do

1163
00:57:22.400 --> 00:57:23.880
<v Speaker 3>you know there are little rocks? He goes, cause I

1164
00:57:23.920 --> 00:57:25.880
<v Speaker 3>got out of the tent and one of them almost

1165
00:57:25.960 --> 00:57:28.199
<v Speaker 3>hit me, and it hit the tent, and I saw

1166
00:57:28.280 --> 00:57:30.480
<v Speaker 3>there was about five or six of these little rocks,

1167
00:57:31.000 --> 00:57:33.960
<v Speaker 3>just small little rocks that had been obviously picked up

1168
00:57:33.960 --> 00:57:36.239
<v Speaker 3>from the beach down below. He goes, I thought it

1169
00:57:36.280 --> 00:57:38.320
<v Speaker 3>was you messing with me, throwing these rocks, so I

1170
00:57:38.360 --> 00:57:40.639
<v Speaker 3>came outside to kick your ass, and you were in here,

1171
00:57:41.039 --> 00:57:42.559
<v Speaker 3>so I knew it wasn't you. And that's when I

1172
00:57:42.559 --> 00:57:44.880
<v Speaker 3>saw that this dark thing, and Derek's not saying what

1173
00:57:44.960 --> 00:57:49.000
<v Speaker 3>Brian is. Finally Brian pulls him over to where he's

1174
00:57:49.000 --> 00:57:52.480
<v Speaker 3>standing and points and guides his eyes to this brush

1175
00:57:52.559 --> 00:57:55.440
<v Speaker 3>where this dark mass was. It's getting on into dusk,

1176
00:57:55.599 --> 00:57:58.159
<v Speaker 3>so it's really not easy to see what Brian's trying

1177
00:57:58.199 --> 00:58:00.519
<v Speaker 3>to point out. But as he's pointing at it, this

1178
00:58:00.599 --> 00:58:03.280
<v Speaker 3>thing moves and shifts and it allows to catch sight

1179
00:58:03.320 --> 00:58:07.360
<v Speaker 3>of it. Then it quietly moves away, gets into the brush,

1180
00:58:07.440 --> 00:58:09.239
<v Speaker 3>and they hear a little bit of brush movement and

1181
00:58:09.280 --> 00:58:12.000
<v Speaker 3>then it's gone. So Derek's like, is that a bear?

1182
00:58:12.719 --> 00:58:15.480
<v Speaker 3>Brian chimes in with bears don't f and throw rocks,

1183
00:58:15.519 --> 00:58:17.599
<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean. Bears don't have thumbs to

1184
00:58:17.639 --> 00:58:19.760
<v Speaker 3>throw rocks. Derek's like, all right, calm down. I'm trying

1185
00:58:19.800 --> 00:58:22.000
<v Speaker 3>not to get freaked out because when I set this

1186
00:58:22.119 --> 00:58:25.599
<v Speaker 3>kettle down, something imitated it back. So they're getting spooked.

1187
00:58:25.639 --> 00:58:27.719
<v Speaker 3>Continue to stoke the fire, and they decide before it

1188
00:58:27.719 --> 00:58:31.920
<v Speaker 3>gets any darker, they need to retrieve some bundles of

1189
00:58:31.960 --> 00:58:34.119
<v Speaker 3>firewood they had down at the skiff, and they decided

1190
00:58:34.159 --> 00:58:36.719
<v Speaker 3>they're going to do it together. Brian grabs his three

1191
00:58:36.719 --> 00:58:39.000
<v Speaker 3>in a wind mag Derek already had his two seventy.

1192
00:58:39.119 --> 00:58:42.159
<v Speaker 3>They hike on down. When they got to the skiff,

1193
00:58:42.239 --> 00:58:44.880
<v Speaker 3>they had a tarp over all their stuff. One portion

1194
00:58:45.000 --> 00:58:48.000
<v Speaker 3>of the tarp because they had extra fuel cans, they

1195
00:58:48.039 --> 00:58:50.360
<v Speaker 3>had some extra gear and stuff still in there that

1196
00:58:50.400 --> 00:58:54.039
<v Speaker 3>they weren't gonna need, just basically emergency stuff and some

1197
00:58:54.119 --> 00:58:57.400
<v Speaker 3>leftover firewood stuff. So one part of that tarp was

1198
00:58:57.519 --> 00:59:00.880
<v Speaker 3>kicked over like someone had been into it. Derek, did

1199
00:59:00.880 --> 00:59:02.440
<v Speaker 3>you get into the skiff when he came down to

1200
00:59:02.480 --> 00:59:04.920
<v Speaker 3>do the dishes? And he said no, So they were

1201
00:59:04.960 --> 00:59:09.480
<v Speaker 3>both intrigued, they start looking around. Derek said, when he

1202
00:59:10.400 --> 00:59:13.440
<v Speaker 3>pulled the tart back in the spot where the firewood was,

1203
00:59:13.599 --> 00:59:17.440
<v Speaker 3>it made that sound. There was an imitation of that

1204
00:59:18.000 --> 00:59:23.639
<v Speaker 3>almost immediately from the brush right behind them, about less

1205
00:59:23.639 --> 00:59:26.639
<v Speaker 3>than forty feet, he said, creeped him out instantly. They

1206
00:59:26.679 --> 00:59:29.679
<v Speaker 3>turn around. They got rifles point in that direction, their

1207
00:59:29.719 --> 00:59:32.079
<v Speaker 3>flashlights they had left up in the tent because it

1208
00:59:32.119 --> 00:59:35.159
<v Speaker 3>was dusk. It wasn't dark enough to really justify a

1209
00:59:35.159 --> 00:59:37.480
<v Speaker 3>flashlight at that point. You know, they'd only plan on

1210
00:59:37.519 --> 00:59:40.920
<v Speaker 3>grabbing the firewood and getting back, so they're immediately spooped.

1211
00:59:41.199 --> 00:59:43.840
<v Speaker 3>They take a few minutes they calmed down. Derek said,

1212
00:59:43.880 --> 00:59:47.360
<v Speaker 3>he grabs the firewood. Brian's gonna watch his back as

1213
00:59:47.360 --> 00:59:50.079
<v Speaker 3>they packed the firewood back up to their little camp.

1214
00:59:50.639 --> 00:59:52.559
<v Speaker 3>So they start back up, and the whole time they

1215
00:59:52.599 --> 00:59:54.760
<v Speaker 3>keep looking off to their left because that's where that

1216
00:59:54.880 --> 00:59:57.400
<v Speaker 3>sound of the tart came from.

1217
00:59:57.599 --> 01:00:00.360
<v Speaker 1>And stay tuned for more sasquatch out to se right

1218
01:00:00.400 --> 01:00:02.400
<v Speaker 1>back after these messages.

1219
01:00:05.800 --> 01:00:07.960
<v Speaker 3>He said he thought he heard it another time when

1220
01:00:07.960 --> 01:00:10.639
<v Speaker 3>he was fixing the tarp after grabbing the firewood out,

1221
01:00:10.800 --> 01:00:13.280
<v Speaker 3>but he couldn't be sure because he was really spooked

1222
01:00:13.320 --> 01:00:15.880
<v Speaker 3>and he didn't want to hear something that he wasn't

1223
01:00:15.880 --> 01:00:19.440
<v Speaker 3>hearing kind of thing from being hyper freaked out. So

1224
01:00:19.840 --> 01:00:22.559
<v Speaker 3>they get back up there to their camp and from

1225
01:00:22.719 --> 01:00:25.840
<v Speaker 3>what Brian said was Brian was tending to the fire.

1226
01:00:26.519 --> 01:00:29.719
<v Speaker 3>Derek had gone into the tent to retrieve some headlamps

1227
01:00:29.840 --> 01:00:33.440
<v Speaker 3>and a big floodlight. They had a spotlight like flashlight.

1228
01:00:33.960 --> 01:00:35.840
<v Speaker 3>When he was in there, he was looking for it,

1229
01:00:36.159 --> 01:00:40.000
<v Speaker 3>calling back, hey, which bag YadA YadA. Brian said he

1230
01:00:40.119 --> 01:00:42.480
<v Speaker 3>was looking back down in the direction at this point

1231
01:00:42.719 --> 01:00:46.400
<v Speaker 3>of where this sound came from the high strangeness, and

1232
01:00:46.440 --> 01:00:49.480
<v Speaker 3>he said he saw what he thought was a black

1233
01:00:49.480 --> 01:00:52.360
<v Speaker 3>bear standing up on two feet and then dropping down

1234
01:00:53.159 --> 01:00:55.280
<v Speaker 3>onto all fours. He said he saw it once or

1235
01:00:55.320 --> 01:00:57.880
<v Speaker 3>twice and was like, wow, you know, that's really weird,

1236
01:00:58.360 --> 01:01:00.800
<v Speaker 3>and then nothing. It just blended in the darkness that

1237
01:01:00.960 --> 01:01:03.199
<v Speaker 3>was coming on. He told Derek about it when he

1238
01:01:03.239 --> 01:01:05.719
<v Speaker 3>came out of the tent. Derek spots that, you know,

1239
01:01:06.159 --> 01:01:08.559
<v Speaker 3>use that spotlight down the hill towards that direction and

1240
01:01:08.599 --> 01:01:11.039
<v Speaker 3>they just seep brush. You know, they don't see nothing.

1241
01:01:11.719 --> 01:01:14.679
<v Speaker 3>So they calm down. They start getting real real tired,

1242
01:01:15.000 --> 01:01:18.280
<v Speaker 3>long day hiking, hiking around checking the property markers, all

1243
01:01:18.320 --> 01:01:21.480
<v Speaker 3>that stuff was catching up to them both, so they decide,

1244
01:01:21.559 --> 01:01:24.760
<v Speaker 3>we'll crash out. We'll worry about that stuff in the morning.

1245
01:01:24.800 --> 01:01:28.039
<v Speaker 3>Let's just be ready. Don't shoot each other, but be armed,

1246
01:01:28.119 --> 01:01:31.920
<v Speaker 3>keep your farms close, and let's get some sleep. So

1247
01:01:32.440 --> 01:01:35.000
<v Speaker 3>they go to sleep uneventful evening. They heard some weird

1248
01:01:35.039 --> 01:01:38.199
<v Speaker 3>noises once or twice, but that was it. The next morning,

1249
01:01:38.199 --> 01:01:40.599
<v Speaker 3>when they get up, they get up extra early because

1250
01:01:40.639 --> 01:01:42.679
<v Speaker 3>again they're there to deer hunt as well, and they

1251
01:01:42.719 --> 01:01:45.079
<v Speaker 3>want to get to spots before the animals start moving

1252
01:01:45.079 --> 01:01:48.159
<v Speaker 3>and before he gets fully light out. As they're gathering

1253
01:01:48.199 --> 01:01:50.079
<v Speaker 3>up their stuff and getting ready to do that, they

1254
01:01:50.119 --> 01:01:52.239
<v Speaker 3>decide to'll eat breakfast when they get back, so no

1255
01:01:52.320 --> 01:01:55.280
<v Speaker 3>strange smells are scaring off deer. Even though they ain't

1256
01:01:55.280 --> 01:01:57.840
<v Speaker 3>seen any fresh sign of deer or anything except for

1257
01:01:57.880 --> 01:01:59.719
<v Speaker 3>the one across a little inlet, there was still game

1258
01:01:59.719 --> 01:02:03.880
<v Speaker 3>to hut. They get up. Brian, from how he was

1259
01:02:03.880 --> 01:02:06.119
<v Speaker 3>feeling last time the day before when he was up

1260
01:02:06.119 --> 01:02:08.119
<v Speaker 3>there feeling watched, he didn't want to go up there,

1261
01:02:08.159 --> 01:02:10.079
<v Speaker 3>so Derek said, I will, and you can walk the

1262
01:02:10.119 --> 01:02:12.519
<v Speaker 3>beach and have fun with that shit, you know, you know,

1263
01:02:12.599 --> 01:02:16.559
<v Speaker 3>just being buddies, you know, talking trash, or whatever. Brian said, sure,

1264
01:02:17.119 --> 01:02:20.639
<v Speaker 3>So Derek commences to make his way. He said he

1265
01:02:20.760 --> 01:02:23.400
<v Speaker 3>lost track of the trail once or twice because he

1266
01:02:23.480 --> 01:02:25.400
<v Speaker 3>had his head lamp on red and was trying to

1267
01:02:26.079 --> 01:02:27.800
<v Speaker 3>with the moss and everything. It was really hard to

1268
01:02:27.800 --> 01:02:29.920
<v Speaker 3>make out with the red light versus you know, the

1269
01:02:30.159 --> 01:02:34.039
<v Speaker 3>incandescent light. So he gets up to this little ground

1270
01:02:34.039 --> 01:02:36.840
<v Speaker 3>blind right, and again it's about seventy feet off of

1271
01:02:36.880 --> 01:02:38.920
<v Speaker 3>this game trail that he had just followed and then

1272
01:02:38.960 --> 01:02:41.639
<v Speaker 3>cut up from to get up to this spot. Off

1273
01:02:41.679 --> 01:02:45.039
<v Speaker 3>to his left hand side. He said. From that blind

1274
01:02:45.079 --> 01:02:48.760
<v Speaker 3>area was a pretty good sized old growth tree about

1275
01:02:48.760 --> 01:02:52.000
<v Speaker 3>two arms length from where he was sitting with the

1276
01:02:52.000 --> 01:02:54.760
<v Speaker 3>little ground blind in front of him, another old growth

1277
01:02:55.440 --> 01:02:57.719
<v Speaker 3>tight off to his right hand side, and then some

1278
01:02:57.800 --> 01:03:01.079
<v Speaker 3>brush and stuff right. He felt he was in a

1279
01:03:01.119 --> 01:03:03.559
<v Speaker 3>really good secure place. You know, it was rock based

1280
01:03:03.559 --> 01:03:07.159
<v Speaker 3>behind him. Sat there quietly waiting, he said. As the

1281
01:03:07.199 --> 01:03:10.320
<v Speaker 3>morning went on, it was just starting to get light

1282
01:03:10.639 --> 01:03:13.119
<v Speaker 3>up on the horizon, he knew the animals would be

1283
01:03:13.119 --> 01:03:17.239
<v Speaker 3>moving soon. He kept hearing a weird like rustling sound

1284
01:03:17.880 --> 01:03:20.320
<v Speaker 3>and he couldn't pinpoint where he's coming from because being

1285
01:03:20.400 --> 01:03:22.760
<v Speaker 3>up on that hillside. He said, when a sound happened

1286
01:03:22.760 --> 01:03:24.719
<v Speaker 3>down at the beach. It could sound like it's happening

1287
01:03:24.800 --> 01:03:26.639
<v Speaker 3>right next to you, but it's coming from down there

1288
01:03:26.639 --> 01:03:28.840
<v Speaker 3>and echoing around. He's sitting there trying to figure out

1289
01:03:28.880 --> 01:03:31.480
<v Speaker 3>what the rustling was going on, and so finally he

1290
01:03:31.519 --> 01:03:33.599
<v Speaker 3>stands up because he's like, man, if I can make

1291
01:03:33.639 --> 01:03:35.719
<v Speaker 3>out the silhouette of a deer, I'll bag it if

1292
01:03:35.719 --> 01:03:37.519
<v Speaker 3>it's close enough, and I can make sure I can

1293
01:03:37.519 --> 01:03:39.679
<v Speaker 3>get a target on it, you know, a good site picture.

1294
01:03:40.199 --> 01:03:42.039
<v Speaker 3>So he stands up and he looks down on the

1295
01:03:42.079 --> 01:03:45.840
<v Speaker 3>game trail. He sees a very large mass. He couldn't

1296
01:03:45.880 --> 01:03:48.320
<v Speaker 3>make it out, but it was not a deer, far

1297
01:03:48.400 --> 01:03:51.840
<v Speaker 3>too big to be a black bear. So he decides click.

1298
01:03:51.880 --> 01:03:54.679
<v Speaker 3>He turns on his headlamp, and his headlamp when he

1299
01:03:54.719 --> 01:03:57.360
<v Speaker 3>turned it on, he said all he saw was eyeshine

1300
01:03:57.400 --> 01:04:02.360
<v Speaker 3>and blackness, and this thing bolted down the trail right immediately.

1301
01:04:02.400 --> 01:04:06.039
<v Speaker 3>He's freaked out. He starts screaming for Brian, Brian, Brian.

1302
01:04:06.159 --> 01:04:09.159
<v Speaker 3>He's concerned for his friend. Where he said this thing

1303
01:04:09.239 --> 01:04:11.639
<v Speaker 3>was large. He couldn't make out any kind of facial

1304
01:04:11.679 --> 01:04:14.719
<v Speaker 3>features or hands or any of that shit. It was

1305
01:04:14.960 --> 01:04:17.800
<v Speaker 3>too dark. It was pitch black, but the eye shine.

1306
01:04:17.840 --> 01:04:20.800
<v Speaker 3>He saw big eye shine, red eye shine, and this

1307
01:04:20.880 --> 01:04:25.480
<v Speaker 3>thing bolted. He said it was fast, so immediately he's

1308
01:04:25.519 --> 01:04:27.639
<v Speaker 3>concerned about his friend, but he's not going to follow

1309
01:04:28.239 --> 01:04:31.239
<v Speaker 3>the direction this thing went. He is going down the

1310
01:04:31.360 --> 01:04:34.480
<v Speaker 3>hill as best he can without falling and tumbling over

1311
01:04:34.840 --> 01:04:36.880
<v Speaker 3>to get down to the beach where Brian said he

1312
01:04:36.960 --> 01:04:40.000
<v Speaker 3>was going to be right. So, as Derek is coming

1313
01:04:40.079 --> 01:04:44.440
<v Speaker 3>down the hill from Brian's perspective, he hears the thrashing

1314
01:04:44.440 --> 01:04:47.079
<v Speaker 3>and crashing and stands up from where he is sitting

1315
01:04:47.159 --> 01:04:49.039
<v Speaker 3>and walks out on the beach so he can get

1316
01:04:49.079 --> 01:04:51.800
<v Speaker 3>a vantage point looking up the hill, and Brian said

1317
01:04:52.559 --> 01:04:57.320
<v Speaker 3>he thought Derek started screaming, But about halfway down the distance,

1318
01:04:57.679 --> 01:05:00.360
<v Speaker 3>coming to where he's trying to intercept Brian, where Brian's

1319
01:05:00.360 --> 01:05:03.079
<v Speaker 3>supposed to be, Brian starts hearing this scream and this

1320
01:05:03.199 --> 01:05:07.480
<v Speaker 3>high pitched wailing screaming. He thinks it's Derek. Derek is

1321
01:05:07.559 --> 01:05:10.840
<v Speaker 3>freaking the hell out because the scream is coming from

1322
01:05:10.880 --> 01:05:13.639
<v Speaker 3>behind him. He's not the one screaming. He ain't even

1323
01:05:13.679 --> 01:05:16.639
<v Speaker 3>breathing at this point. He's so freaked out and he's

1324
01:05:16.679 --> 01:05:19.519
<v Speaker 3>just hauling ass. He had dropped his rifle, fell a

1325
01:05:19.519 --> 01:05:22.000
<v Speaker 3>couple times, hot back up, still trying to run. He

1326
01:05:22.079 --> 01:05:25.760
<v Speaker 3>twisted his ankle a little bit, but he was adrenaline pumping.

1327
01:05:26.519 --> 01:05:29.880
<v Speaker 3>So from Brian's perspective, as Derek's coming down the hill,

1328
01:05:30.280 --> 01:05:33.599
<v Speaker 3>he could see Derek's headlamp and it's bouncing all around.

1329
01:05:33.639 --> 01:05:35.000
<v Speaker 3>He's seen him fall a couple of times, and he

1330
01:05:35.039 --> 01:05:36.920
<v Speaker 3>starts yelling out to him, this way, I'm over here,

1331
01:05:36.960 --> 01:05:40.840
<v Speaker 3>I'm over here now. After the initial scream that really

1332
01:05:40.880 --> 01:05:44.320
<v Speaker 3>started Derek's panic coming down the hill, it screamed again

1333
01:05:45.199 --> 01:05:50.280
<v Speaker 3>as Derek got closer to Brian. The second scream was

1334
01:05:50.639 --> 01:05:53.440
<v Speaker 3>very deep, kind of like the air raid siren thing,

1335
01:05:53.519 --> 01:05:57.239
<v Speaker 3>and then went super high pitched where it almost sounded

1336
01:05:57.280 --> 01:06:00.639
<v Speaker 3>like a real sharp, long whistle. Right But they knew

1337
01:06:00.639 --> 01:06:03.039
<v Speaker 3>it was a scream because it started off as a

1338
01:06:03.039 --> 01:06:06.519
<v Speaker 3>little grumbly kind of yelling, kind of war worked up

1339
01:06:06.559 --> 01:06:09.440
<v Speaker 3>and then super high pitched. And they don't know where

1340
01:06:09.440 --> 01:06:11.639
<v Speaker 3>it's coming from. It's coming from the darkness of that

1341
01:06:11.679 --> 01:06:15.880
<v Speaker 3>little hillside there. They got no clue. They're flashing flashlights,

1342
01:06:15.880 --> 01:06:18.559
<v Speaker 3>they got their head lamps on their shoulder or shoulder,

1343
01:06:18.599 --> 01:06:21.159
<v Speaker 3>they got the firearms and stuff. They don't know what

1344
01:06:21.199 --> 01:06:24.880
<v Speaker 3>to do. They're stuck. They can't believe what's going on.

1345
01:06:24.960 --> 01:06:28.360
<v Speaker 3>But there's something massive screaming at them, been throwing rocks,

1346
01:06:28.480 --> 01:06:30.639
<v Speaker 3>been messing with them for days. Just don't know what

1347
01:06:30.679 --> 01:06:33.400
<v Speaker 3>to make of it. They hadn't really seen anything other

1348
01:06:33.480 --> 01:06:36.639
<v Speaker 3>than large masses here and there, right, So they decide

1349
01:06:36.639 --> 01:06:39.079
<v Speaker 3>they're going to go back down to the skiff and

1350
01:06:39.239 --> 01:06:42.400
<v Speaker 3>hang out at the skiff somewhere where they can hunker

1351
01:06:42.480 --> 01:06:44.719
<v Speaker 3>down in and look out and around and feel some

1352
01:06:44.880 --> 01:06:49.480
<v Speaker 3>kind of I guess safety, no matter how far fetched

1353
01:06:49.599 --> 01:06:52.599
<v Speaker 3>it is the human mind. You'd be happy in a

1354
01:06:52.599 --> 01:06:54.800
<v Speaker 3>cardboard box in that situation as long as you got

1355
01:06:54.880 --> 01:06:57.199
<v Speaker 3>some kind of barrier between you and the darkness, you know,

1356
01:06:57.880 --> 01:07:00.719
<v Speaker 3>so Derek said. As they were sitting in the skiff,

1357
01:07:01.400 --> 01:07:04.400
<v Speaker 3>Brian was like, why were you screaming so loud at first?

1358
01:07:04.440 --> 01:07:07.360
<v Speaker 3>And Derek tells them that wasn't me, that was something screaming.

1359
01:07:07.519 --> 01:07:09.559
<v Speaker 3>The same thing that screamed, you know. A few moments

1360
01:07:09.639 --> 01:07:12.360
<v Speaker 3>later or whatever, they're sitting there like, what the hell

1361
01:07:12.480 --> 01:07:15.239
<v Speaker 3>was that? You know? They said bigfoot? At first, they

1362
01:07:15.239 --> 01:07:17.480
<v Speaker 3>were talking about bigfoot, but they thought that was a

1363
01:07:17.519 --> 01:07:20.719
<v Speaker 3>Pacific Northwest thing, right, because they never really heard of

1364
01:07:20.760 --> 01:07:24.239
<v Speaker 3>anything bigfoot in Alaska related, but not that they sought

1365
01:07:24.239 --> 01:07:26.840
<v Speaker 3>it out either. They didn't give a crap about the topic.

1366
01:07:27.119 --> 01:07:28.920
<v Speaker 3>You know, it was just not in their wheelhouse. It

1367
01:07:28.960 --> 01:07:30.719
<v Speaker 3>wasn't part of their day to day life. So it

1368
01:07:30.760 --> 01:07:34.360
<v Speaker 3>was like irrelevant to them until this happened, right, because

1369
01:07:34.360 --> 01:07:37.559
<v Speaker 3>they'd been hunting for years, no problems, no issues anywhere

1370
01:07:37.599 --> 01:07:40.639
<v Speaker 3>they've ever hunted, from the interior on down to the

1371
01:07:40.679 --> 01:07:43.239
<v Speaker 3>Prince Williams Sound or the Gulf of Alaska. Wherever they went,

1372
01:07:43.639 --> 01:07:47.039
<v Speaker 3>they had no issues. So they're sitting in the skiff.

1373
01:07:47.360 --> 01:07:49.360
<v Speaker 3>It gets to a point to where tight's coming in.

1374
01:07:49.639 --> 01:07:52.119
<v Speaker 3>They only have about forty feet they'd have to push

1375
01:07:52.119 --> 01:07:54.320
<v Speaker 3>their skiff to launch it and get out of there.

1376
01:07:54.760 --> 01:07:57.400
<v Speaker 3>So they start during this time as it's starting to

1377
01:07:57.400 --> 01:08:01.000
<v Speaker 3>slowly get lighter and lighter in the morning, they're gauging,

1378
01:08:01.320 --> 01:08:04.639
<v Speaker 3>let's do an assessment of what's up at that campsite

1379
01:08:04.760 --> 01:08:09.079
<v Speaker 3>and do we need it immediately. Derek and I laughed

1380
01:08:09.079 --> 01:08:10.679
<v Speaker 3>with him because he was like, oh, hell no, I

1381
01:08:10.719 --> 01:08:12.920
<v Speaker 3>got my guns, that's it. You know, my wallet stays

1382
01:08:12.960 --> 01:08:16.000
<v Speaker 3>in my pocket. Brian had his wallet. They had all

1383
01:08:16.039 --> 01:08:19.159
<v Speaker 3>their pertinent stuff always on them, in their pockets or

1384
01:08:19.199 --> 01:08:22.399
<v Speaker 3>in their vests or whatever. So they did a quick assessment,

1385
01:08:22.439 --> 01:08:24.479
<v Speaker 3>and they're like a couple hundred dollars worth of gear

1386
01:08:24.640 --> 01:08:28.359
<v Speaker 3>versus hiking back up there whatever it can keep that gear.

1387
01:08:29.439 --> 01:08:33.159
<v Speaker 3>They resigned themselves to just wait for the tide to

1388
01:08:33.199 --> 01:08:34.840
<v Speaker 3>come in a little bit more, wait for it to

1389
01:08:34.840 --> 01:08:36.800
<v Speaker 3>get a little lighter, and they got out of there.

1390
01:08:37.359 --> 01:08:41.439
<v Speaker 3>I asked Brian, how did he initially feel thinking his

1391
01:08:41.560 --> 01:08:44.520
<v Speaker 3>friend was screaming like that? Right, because when a friend

1392
01:08:44.600 --> 01:08:47.479
<v Speaker 3>screamed like that, you know it's different, even though it

1393
01:08:47.520 --> 01:08:50.079
<v Speaker 3>wasn't his friend. And I asked him, when you initially

1394
01:08:50.079 --> 01:08:51.840
<v Speaker 3>thought it was your friend, how did it feel to

1395
01:08:51.840 --> 01:08:54.199
<v Speaker 3>hear that? And he goes, my hair stood up on end.

1396
01:08:54.680 --> 01:08:57.000
<v Speaker 3>He goes, I had never heard a human scream like that,

1397
01:08:57.159 --> 01:09:00.399
<v Speaker 3>But I thought he was mortally injured or about to

1398
01:09:00.399 --> 01:09:04.039
<v Speaker 3>be mortally wounded. Because of that sound. I thought he

1399
01:09:04.159 --> 01:09:05.840
<v Speaker 3>was on the verge of dying or something. It was

1400
01:09:05.920 --> 01:09:09.119
<v Speaker 3>so intense, so loud. I want to thank them for

1401
01:09:09.239 --> 01:09:12.279
<v Speaker 3>putting in the effort to share their experience. He did

1402
01:09:12.319 --> 01:09:15.039
<v Speaker 3>not buy the property. From what he said, they never

1403
01:09:15.079 --> 01:09:19.880
<v Speaker 3>went back to gather up these things. This happened approximately

1404
01:09:19.920 --> 01:09:23.319
<v Speaker 3>five years ago, or the year before the COVID lockdowns

1405
01:09:23.359 --> 01:09:26.479
<v Speaker 3>came and stuff, so it was a fall before COVID

1406
01:09:26.479 --> 01:09:30.840
<v Speaker 3>lockdowns that following spring. Thank you Derek for sharing. You know,

1407
01:09:30.880 --> 01:09:32.840
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure people will be in the comments or whatever

1408
01:09:32.920 --> 01:09:35.159
<v Speaker 3>if you fill up to it. I know you know

1409
01:09:35.199 --> 01:09:38.079
<v Speaker 3>you wanted to remain anonymous. If you respond to comments,

1410
01:09:38.199 --> 01:09:41.520
<v Speaker 3>you run the risk of potentially being docksed or whatever.

1411
01:09:41.520 --> 01:09:44.319
<v Speaker 3>That's up to you. Thank you Brian for putting in

1412
01:09:44.399 --> 01:09:46.439
<v Speaker 3>the effort you could to share what you saw of

1413
01:09:46.560 --> 01:09:50.319
<v Speaker 3>what happened. Be careful out there, you never know. I'm

1414
01:09:50.319 --> 01:09:53.439
<v Speaker 3>not trying to scare anybody with this stuff. This is educational.

1415
01:09:53.600 --> 01:09:56.560
<v Speaker 3>Just be aware. In the Woodsman they.

1416
01:09:56.479 --> 01:09:57.039
<v Speaker 5>Say you.

1417
01:10:00.319 --> 01:10:07.199
<v Speaker 6>Gustay and I don't want to be the.

1418
01:10:08.960 --> 01:10:10.359
<v Speaker 5>World happen.

1419
01:10:15.119 --> 01:10:35.880
<v Speaker 6>Said Chid The chart, that chart everything.

1420
01:10:36.279 --> 01:10:37.640
<v Speaker 5>Can you ride back?

1421
01:10:38.039 --> 01:10:42.840
<v Speaker 3>Ride back and the joy from me? The joy stay right.

1422
01:10:45.039 --> 01:11:22.720
<v Speaker 5>Come in right away. Still stays ss.

1423
01:11:19.439 --> 01:11:57.479
<v Speaker 7>St st st stas still games still stassstsstuss

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01:12:02.359 --> 01:12:02.399
<v Speaker 1>M
