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Speaker 2: My dog. We're applying through he or over the trade.
Speaker 2: I don't know how it did it? Okay, damn, I'm
Speaker 2: really confused now. All I thought was my dog coming
Speaker 2: over the fence and they would have dead. And when
Speaker 2: you hit the ground, I entertaining cars. All I thought
Speaker 2: was my dog coming over the fence. Reporting. We got
Speaker 2: some understuffing brawling around out here. Did you see what
Speaker 2: it was? I'm out here. Look, I'm near the one
Speaker 2: now now and I don't need anything. I don't want
Speaker 2: to go outside. He is quite Hello, hit somebody out here?
Speaker 2: Que thought of a bit about text nine. I don't know,
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Speaker 1: Before we dive into today's episode, I want to take
Speaker 1: a moment to talk directly to you. Over the past week,
Speaker 1: I've been reading your emails, your comments, and your direct
Speaker 1: messages across our social media platforms, and let me tell you, your
Speaker 1: voices have been loud and clear. One name kept coming
Speaker 1: up again and again, Fred from Alaska. You've shared stories
Speaker 1: about how much you enjoyed his insights, his humor, and
Speaker 1: that unique perspective he brings to these encounter stories from Alaska.
Speaker 1: So I've made a decision. I'm thrilled to announce that
Speaker 1: Fred from Alaska is coming back once again, bringing all
Speaker 1: that wisdom and First Nations perspective you've been missing. Fred
Speaker 1: starts off with an interview of a witness that has
Speaker 1: had several experiences while hunting deep in the Alaskan bush.
Speaker 3: Again.
Speaker 1: I can't thank you all enough for your enthusiasm and
Speaker 1: for being such a vital part of this journey. But
Speaker 1: I know you guys are ready to get into it,
Speaker 1: So let's join Fred and his interview with John.
Speaker 3: Hey, Greetians, thanks for joining me to spread in Alaska.
Speaker 3: I'm getting ready to start this interview with John. John,
Speaker 3: I'll turn it over to you and you can fill
Speaker 3: in everybody on what you've experienced up here yourself.
Speaker 4: Okay, thanks Fred, Fred, I've been talking and I've had
Speaker 4: a few incidents over the course of my life in
Speaker 4: the outdoors in Alaska. Back in the early Chevities, the
Speaker 4: headwaters of one of the rivers flowing into the Yukah
Speaker 4: not first in the Yukon Bridge, we experienced wood knox
Speaker 4: and hod bulbs, and at the time we had no
Speaker 4: idea what was going on. We just weren't sure what
Speaker 4: we were hearing. We just attributed to what we knew,
Speaker 4: and that was moose. It was very odd first year
Speaker 4: that we had heard the stuff, but Schevy were moose
Speaker 4: shutting in there. We didn't see anything. And the following
Speaker 4: year we were back in there again, and that year
Speaker 4: we didn't hear these vocals or anything. But my brother
Speaker 4: and I were pretty young, were with my dad and
Speaker 4: woke up. My brother asked me, who was at the
Speaker 4: fire last night? I said, well, I guess it was dad.
Speaker 4: He said, no, Dad was asleep and you were sleeping.
Speaker 4: I said, well, I don't know who it was, and
Speaker 4: there would be no people out there, and we were
Speaker 4: very revote. So my dad got up and my brother
Speaker 4: asked him about it. He who food it, you know
Speaker 4: his you know tids imagination or whatever. Certainly wasn't thinking
Speaker 4: anything along the ended about hearing man. And I only
Speaker 4: mentioned this stuff is because later it all kind of
Speaker 4: sits in, you know, after you see lifetime of experiences
Speaker 4: and the writing you weren't more and puzzle pieces start
Speaker 4: stop it in the board. And I really didn't have
Speaker 4: anything going on that I could really attribute to that
Speaker 4: until the late seventies. I was down at Lake Clark.
Speaker 4: I was working at a lodge there at the lake, oh,
Speaker 4: and it was anybody around. I would want hike and
Speaker 4: hide the beach here, like over to a river and
Speaker 4: it schools five or some fishing or sometimes I set
Speaker 4: up to the airstrip and there's an old cat trail
Speaker 4: that went straight away from the lodge back towards Telloklonga
Speaker 4: Lake and twin Lakes. And one day an pike and
Speaker 4: this trail away from the airstrip. There was some very
Speaker 4: odd calls coming from ahead of me, you know, probably
Speaker 4: a quarter mile away. I didn't have a firearm with me,
Speaker 4: and made me feel uncomfortable. I couldn't have a wife
Speaker 4: of me figure out what was making this noise these vocals,
Speaker 4: so I stopped and listened to it and went on.
Speaker 4: I probably four in the afternoon. I don't see anything,
Speaker 4: but it Mamy's. There's still uncomfortable. And I was getting
Speaker 4: the ways out from the airstrip and I don't know
Speaker 4: what this is, but it doesn't sound right. So I
Speaker 4: just turned around and it was like another normal thing.
Speaker 4: There's only vocals that I heard. It was that one
Speaker 4: time there, but one of the cooks. I stayed the
Speaker 4: main building there. I had a room backed up to
Speaker 4: the woods, and one of the cooks was also staying
Speaker 4: in the main building. In her ring was the singing
Speaker 4: wall with minas on. She had a window of her.
Speaker 4: I can't even tell you how many times she would
Speaker 4: get up in the morning and tell me to drawing
Speaker 4: that bear that schaps out a window at night, and
Speaker 4: I would laugh about it. The bear's told tap on
Speaker 4: the windows. She was adamant. Just about every night this
Speaker 4: bear would under her window and just tap on the window.
Speaker 4: Of course it's dark and generators off, so she just
Speaker 4: got a little flashlight. She just't never she never claimed
Speaker 4: to see anything, and I never put two and two together.
Speaker 4: But like I said later, this old clad that fits
Speaker 4: in you know like then that I guess it would
Speaker 4: be about in nineteen eighty seven. It was over dealing
Speaker 4: him and Fred's stomping grounds. We're going up to McClean River,
Speaker 4: which is a tributary off the Woods River on your
Speaker 4: way to think. I was up there, just past the
Speaker 4: tiling flows where all the mud stops and it turnist
Speaker 4: and gravel, and I saw an older Native couple pulled
Speaker 4: over to the bank. They were both waving their hands
Speaker 4: at me, so I thought they were broken. Of course,
Speaker 4: she pulled in the sas it can help or whatever's
Speaker 4: going on. I pulled in with my shifts. As soon
Speaker 4: as I turned off the motor. He got on the
Speaker 4: beach shirlook the woman at the mail or both pointing
Speaker 4: towards the woods, pointing towards the river. That a hairy
Speaker 4: man had just jumped across the river. I said, what
Speaker 4: they were just pulling the motion and very out of
Speaker 4: it about what had just gone down. I walked with
Speaker 4: the gentleman over to the water and he showed me
Speaker 4: where it land. It landed actually in the water, and
Speaker 4: then it ran up and across the gravel and into
Speaker 4: the woods. You could see the wet marks on the gravel.
Speaker 4: You couldn't make out any tracks or anything, because the
Speaker 4: soil was fun enough that you just the rocks and all.
Speaker 4: You couldn't make tracks, but you could see it was
Speaker 4: something that had right across there. I believed him, you know,
Speaker 4: I believed them one hundred percent that they saw it
Speaker 4: didn't make sense that a moosher would jump that a
Speaker 4: ground bear certainly would him. Couldn't imagine what else it
Speaker 4: would have been. So we went up to the clong
Speaker 4: that dam why fish, and we had no further encounters
Speaker 4: and no problems. And I always flogged back. In the
Speaker 4: back of my head, I always thought about that when
Speaker 4: I went to they went to the Google Walk or
Speaker 4: they goole put fishing, you know. I always thought about
Speaker 4: that couple. I rang each other on the flung, but
Speaker 4: down there he never really saw anything. Didn't hear anything
Speaker 4: up there either. Then about twenty fifteen, I happened to
Speaker 4: be hunting down in Monahan's Wall, was the back off
Speaker 4: of the Dowley Highway, so we can't hold it was down
Speaker 4: in the flash sheet, all five six miles from the road.
Speaker 4: I was down a long roll down there, just glassing.
Speaker 4: They had a fellow with me and he had shot
Speaker 4: a caribou we had processed as cariboo. It was all
Speaker 4: order laid on the tarp there, all ready to go,
Speaker 4: and we were getting ready to hold it out. But
Speaker 4: just before we left, we said, you should want to
Speaker 4: look at the rouse. I'm glassing down show. There's a
Speaker 4: dark swarm among this small little mild out there in
Speaker 4: the flats, next to a sure tree. Look like a shasquatch.
Speaker 4: It was the backside of it. I mentioned to this
Speaker 4: oh I was with. I said, well, have you ever
Speaker 4: seen a shacksquatch? And he said no. I said, well,
Speaker 4: I think there's one stand in there. I told him where.
Speaker 4: He looked through his binoca were said. He didn't say much.
Speaker 4: He just kind of sure, they don't know what that is.
Speaker 4: Was like I had a really good pair of anoes.
Speaker 4: She did very well, and he quit looking at it.
Speaker 4: I think he wrote it off as a stump or something.
Speaker 4: I didn't even say anymore about it. But I kept
Speaker 4: checking this thing and watching it, and I swear I
Speaker 4: could see hair, you know, I was about a ninety
Speaker 4: eight percent convinced that that's what I was looking at.
Speaker 4: They could see the arms in the back and wait,
Speaker 4: I mean, everything was there. I looked away, looked back
Speaker 4: and it had walked off that mound. It was barn
Speaker 4: and I said, oh, that cenisquatch just walked off. And
Speaker 4: he looked over it and he said, are you sure you're
Speaker 4: looking Rice Clint. I said, yeah, there's no doubt. There's
Speaker 4: a tree right there was standing next to it's right there.
Speaker 4: Plane's dead. So that was the long range sighting. That
Speaker 4: was probably least six hundred yards down there where it was.
Speaker 4: It's backless to us. It never knew we were there right.
Speaker 3: That area has a whole bunch of just on my
Speaker 3: channel alone, there's a whole bunch of people from up
Speaker 3: and down that De Nale Highway there that have shared
Speaker 3: their experiences. I mean, if it fits right into place,
Speaker 3: Mona Half Flats isn't all that far from the McLaren
Speaker 3: River Sweet Lakes, I mean, as the crow flies, it's
Speaker 3: not that far from like Triangle Lake area, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean, It's right just right down the road.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I really appreciate this back of the year. You're
Speaker 4: doing that thing gram too, because I think this stuff
Speaker 4: goes on so much and NOBE talks about it and
Speaker 4: now ladies and bults start coming forward and it gets
Speaker 4: that map populated pretty well. I went on with life
Speaker 4: until about it was the twenty seventeen that everything really
Speaker 4: changed for me. You got contacted by an engineer in
Speaker 4: Fairbanks that takes some other engineers from out of the century.
Speaker 4: I think. He said they were throwing, he was dealing,
Speaker 4: and they wanted to go on some old mine and
Speaker 4: look at some old mind equipment they had there, you know,
Speaker 4: just relic stuff, but a sill at the location. And
Speaker 4: I had the equivalent particulate at a machine that all
Speaker 4: these guys. So he asked if I would do it.
Speaker 4: I said absolutely, yeah, we'll do that. So they came,
Speaker 4: and then we go and we get into this mind.
Speaker 4: Well they all get out of the machine do to
Speaker 4: look at this equipment, which I had seen many times before,
Speaker 4: and I'm really getting seen any reason to walk over
Speaker 4: there with it. Well, I just sat on the machine.
Speaker 4: I think I had some coffee, and I'm sitting there
Speaker 4: and just copping a glance to my right. Down on
Speaker 4: the ground just outside of the machine, I saw a
Speaker 4: set of tracks and I instantly did they were sasquatch traction.
Speaker 4: Later that day I came back to the location measurements,
Speaker 4: but I don't say anything to these dayes. I didn't
Speaker 4: want to start a bunch of motions. So they came
Speaker 4: back and they loaded it up, and I held them
Speaker 4: back and get into town. It wasn't real far, but
Speaker 4: it was mighty and swampy, but it wasn't the great distance.
Speaker 4: I got them all back out and I ran home
Speaker 4: and got camera. It came back, went in by myself.
Speaker 4: I want to photograph these tracks, get some measurements and
Speaker 4: see what was going on there. But in the tracks
Speaker 4: for seventeen at quarter inches. The one place I could
Speaker 4: get a stride measurement on heal the deal the leave
Speaker 4: was fifty eight inches. So I get to shrimping around
Speaker 4: and these tracks looked like to me there at least
Speaker 4: ten days old. I move up the trail a little
Speaker 4: bit and you're if I had another ship. I mean,
Speaker 4: they're really really fresh tracks. They're new, but it's the
Speaker 4: same individual or one with the same ejexcize foot. I
Speaker 4: get to think, and I thought, you know, what would
Speaker 4: happen if I brought some staff up here and put
Speaker 4: it down in the wood. It's just some trinket type stuff,
Speaker 4: and see what would happen if they would take it,
Speaker 4: or if I could get them to come around, I
Speaker 4: can find some more tracks. It's just spinning. You want
Speaker 4: to end the realization they things are real. I can't
Speaker 4: stand no. If I got to know, so I get
Speaker 4: to see the things from holder. I think it started
Speaker 4: out with like the molers from a moose, coil of
Speaker 4: red hair org I know. I looked at some pictures
Speaker 4: last night. It was a very break from a moose
Speaker 4: that I got boiled up in a shop. I take
Speaker 4: these three items up there and I find, know a
Speaker 4: birch log that's down. It's kind of an obvious spot.
Speaker 4: Put these three items on the walk. I waited a
Speaker 4: couple of days and went back and everything was gone,
Speaker 4: which you know doesn't really mean them. But I finally
Speaker 4: wrote a tree about tiller weapon feet up in the
Speaker 4: tree where a branch had been snaffed off, and it
Speaker 4: was over that broken branch in a coil. That made
Speaker 4: my head kind of like, let's going on here, So
Speaker 4: I thought, I'm going to continue with this is just
Speaker 4: the forest is leaf letther it's my hype bush cranberries,
Speaker 4: Whorris walk is in rose hips and it's not really
Speaker 4: conduced to find a track. It's pretty hard sub straight place.
Speaker 4: There's so much leaf, glitter, f indor she just can't
Speaker 4: really tell. But after a few weeks of bringing things
Speaker 4: up there, no sue, just items and things were disappearing
Speaker 4: at a pretty rapid rate. I started seeing sending the
Speaker 4: depressions in the lake flitter that mapped that track that
Speaker 4: I had seen her. Some of the items were taken.
Speaker 4: But when they started showing back up U four or
Speaker 4: six or eight days later, and they took ten days ago,
Speaker 4: would show right back up there, right on the lock,
Speaker 4: I thought it might be out or something. So I
Speaker 4: decided that I was going to go up there. Well,
Speaker 4: this probably happened in late July, so I had August
Speaker 4: and part of September that I could mess around of this.
Speaker 4: And it wasn't too far from where I was living.
Speaker 4: I could go up there every other day. I thought,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go at seven and night, seven thirty seven
Speaker 4: seven thirty. Try to let them pattern me. If I
Speaker 4: do it en us, eventually they'll figure out becomes every
Speaker 4: other day, I mean I would think they would figure
Speaker 4: it out, right. Well, I started taking stuff up there
Speaker 4: over the course and the rest of that summer, you know,
Speaker 4: like I said, things disappeared, things came back. One thing
Speaker 4: they took was a little kittens mirror like you'd buy
Speaker 4: a dinosaur for a little girl. It's just reflective aluminum oil.
Speaker 4: It's not even the mirror, right, but you can see yourself.
Speaker 4: I can't remember having of those things, but it was
Speaker 4: at least a couple of those things they took. I
Speaker 4: never did see those again. I took the cal Chaerribou
Speaker 4: aunt rap there. There's not a less chairboodr banks closed anyway,
Speaker 4: and I thought I'll just leave it. See what happens.
Speaker 4: From the day I took that cal Caribou aunt up
Speaker 4: there to the day I put it going there. Every
Speaker 4: time I went, they would move it to another location
Speaker 4: about twenty feet away and stead it over there. And
Speaker 4: they put it in the same six spot every single time. Why.
Speaker 4: I have no idea, right, And during a quarter from
Speaker 4: that first summer, I started milors to some other things
Speaker 4: going in there that you know, trees are snapped, all
Speaker 4: trees are stacked, you know, just real odd, definitely not
Speaker 4: normal stuffed in the forest. You know, the trees pulled
Speaker 4: out of the ground that the root headers off, but
Speaker 4: you know, the Lina has something else. I didn't see anything.
Speaker 4: I never saw anything. I bought at times that I
Speaker 4: did hear them. That first year, I was pretty sure
Speaker 4: that i'd heard a few vocals. I remember it was
Speaker 4: four days before it snowed. I was kind of keeping
Speaker 4: track of things and I had stuck in my schedule
Speaker 4: pretty well. That was the last time when I knew
Speaker 4: that they were there for sure. They had stacked some
Speaker 4: poles up along this route and I walked in like
Speaker 4: a teepee configuration. That was four days before it snowed,
Speaker 4: and that was the last time that they visited that
Speaker 4: area that I know of until the following spring. I
Speaker 4: think it snowed that year. It was like mid October,
Speaker 4: so they just vacated the place completely that they were strong.
Speaker 4: I don't know where they list and Jackman kind of
Speaker 4: they did. They respond the Thiland spring had went up there.
Speaker 4: I think it was about the twenties to May that
Speaker 4: I have seen some changes in the woods and what
Speaker 4: had happened. There were two big cottonwood trees that were logs.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry they were, but they were birch. They were
Speaker 4: stuff that had fallen down. But they weren't rotten yet.
Speaker 4: You could still move them around. These two trees got
Speaker 4: stuffed the wedge between two other birch. They were just
Speaker 4: like cantilevering it in this for these two birst trees
Speaker 4: split and grew out of the ground, which were a
Speaker 4: good sized birch. These other big trees got stuffed in there,
Speaker 4: and these logs were in a sixte eight hundred pounds right.
Speaker 4: That happened about the twenty fifth of May, so I
Speaker 4: knew that they were back. I didn't troll by they
Speaker 4: stuff those logs in there, but they were back. So
Speaker 4: I just carried on. It's what I was doing, just drinkets,
Speaker 4: bringing them up the log every other day or so.
Speaker 4: Seven thirty seven was seven thirty. There was one day
Speaker 4: that it was probably all the way up there, towards
Speaker 4: the end of July that I was scheduled to go
Speaker 4: up there in that day and I couldn't go because
Speaker 4: we had something going on that night. I told my wife,
Speaker 4: I said, well, I'm going to go up there now.
Speaker 4: It's two o'clock in the afternoon. So I go up
Speaker 4: there and I get to the log. I can't remember
Speaker 4: what was moved that day, but for some reasons move
Speaker 4: because I was kneeling down and one ding on the ground,
Speaker 4: just kneeling down. I'm starting to do whatever I was
Speaker 4: gonna do, put stuff back on the log, and I thought,
Speaker 4: moving out of my left eye. Just off to my left,
Speaker 4: there's a heavy cor ump of diving willow there, just
Speaker 4: real thing I could, especially this wax sheepe around this
Speaker 4: time in the wall, and I rolled my head to
Speaker 4: the left to look at it. Gets the sask watch.
Speaker 4: It's about five ach maybe aired forty pence, you know,
Speaker 4: a want separating. That's when he came around that brush.
Speaker 4: And as soon as he saw me, he stopped and
Speaker 4: I stopped. And all we did was look at each
Speaker 4: other and looked, you know, right in his face or
Speaker 4: any sign of aggression. That's what I was watching for.
Speaker 4: They did have a pistol right just as cold. They
Speaker 4: did not see any aggression whatsoever. It's just simply a
Speaker 4: stoic stare, you know, just watching me. This went on
Speaker 4: for maybe four or five seconds. It's all not very
Speaker 4: long ago. I rose out to standing height. When I did,
Speaker 4: he apparently didn't like that. He just turned and walked away.
Speaker 4: He did hurry. It was just a calm walk away.
Speaker 1: And stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see. Will
Speaker 1: be right back after these messages.
Speaker 4: The other thing I mentioned to you earlier is that
Speaker 4: found really odd about the whole thing, besides were seeing
Speaker 4: a shasquatch, was that he did not look back at
Speaker 4: me when he started walking away. I thought, well, he's
Speaker 4: gonna stop, you know, and look bit. But that didn't happen.
Speaker 4: Some of the interesting things that you know about him
Speaker 4: were and I did some artwork. I should send it
Speaker 4: to you, Fred. Our eyes were dark. I couldn't tell
Speaker 4: you if they were dark brown and black. They were dark. Right,
Speaker 4: the ashen gray skin, I know it had hair everywhere,
Speaker 4: but like I increased to the arm and on the knees,
Speaker 4: I noticed ashing gray skin. You could see through the hair.
Speaker 4: But one of the things that I really I don't know.
Speaker 4: I focused in on this, but all the reports I hear, well,
Speaker 4: there's no hair around the eyes or nose, but this
Speaker 4: guy had really fine hair on his nose, cheeks and
Speaker 4: those areas. And I think people were fortunte hair. You
Speaker 4: were fine, but it was I mean, he suppose I
Speaker 4: could see it. I don't know. I just I didn't
Speaker 4: really look at his body. I just kept washing his
Speaker 4: eyes and was depressing, you know. That's all I was
Speaker 4: worried about. Was there was any aggression.
Speaker 3: What was the distance between when you stood up and
Speaker 3: you had that four to five second stare down?
Speaker 4: Was a distance between you it was? I always say
Speaker 4: it was about ten yards or less. But he was obviously.
Speaker 4: You know, maybe that's the feature they lose when they
Speaker 4: hit over. I don't. There was definitely hair all over
Speaker 4: his face, like I said, across the cheeks and nose.
Speaker 4: It was fine, but it ins like very short. Felt
Speaker 4: that was that he walked away. But I thought it
Speaker 4: was interesting that whole year and a half that I
Speaker 4: kind of messed around with that. I never saw the
Speaker 4: track of a smaller shaft watch. I never did see
Speaker 4: at least literally probably wouldn't, but I would bother at
Speaker 4: some point i'd put that together, but I didn't. I
Speaker 4: didn't know it was there. All I thought was the
Speaker 4: one big one. All I do, right, if he's up,
Speaker 4: I'll just go to the hand. When the shole. My
Speaker 4: second year, I noticed they got a lot more vocal.
Speaker 4: You shouldn't realize there were three of them. They are
Speaker 4: at set of two. And the reason I say that
Speaker 4: because I heard vocals that happened at the same time.
Speaker 4: You'd have one up the hill and down the hill
Speaker 4: and loft your right. I got used to it. They
Speaker 4: had this coughing groat. I didn't think it was aggressive.
Speaker 4: I think it was just let me know they were there.
Speaker 4: I never experienced any aggression to that point at all.
Speaker 4: When I ended this whole thing. What happened was I
Speaker 4: went in. Every one evening had been ready said it damp.
Speaker 4: I hear them calling more than ever. I mean, they
Speaker 4: were moving. It wasn't road too. Was one off the hill,
Speaker 4: one down the hill, one off to my right, and
Speaker 4: all of a sudden I got this. I never smelled
Speaker 4: this before, but on this day I did smell it.
Speaker 4: This really strong musty odor. It had a very very
Speaker 4: musty urine type odor, extremely strong. It was not on
Speaker 4: part with like a strong where a billy go, you
Speaker 4: know how they stink, And it was it was that woud,
Speaker 4: but a different over. I'm listening to them moving back
Speaker 4: and forth, I'm smelling the smell. I'm thinking they're all
Speaker 4: amped up about something, and I'm thinking, you know, and
Speaker 4: again babies, because I'm in here, so I thought best
Speaker 4: to get out of there because I had been riding
Speaker 4: my bike by that time. So I jumped on my
Speaker 4: bike headed out back to the main trail. I made
Speaker 4: the turn and I went down there. I had a
Speaker 4: couple hundred yards and the smell had gone by this point.
Speaker 4: I just smell anything I run into like a wall odor.
Speaker 4: So I know that there's one right there. So I
Speaker 4: walk the bikes up on the bike and they have
Speaker 4: my camp work. I intended to get some footage less
Speaker 4: I'm gonna do right, and they start shooting with a
Speaker 4: camp flor f wind and there's another clock for rush
Speaker 4: up there, like twenty feet away. I cannot see through it,
Speaker 4: but I know what every inns would I be. There's
Speaker 4: a cashwatch behind that brush, because I can smell it.
Speaker 4: Then as I'm looking up there, I realized and then
Speaker 4: of going through a metal lap right behind me her
Speaker 4: tailing else they're right up against the trail. I thought,
Speaker 4: you know, this is a perfect pitch point. They knew
Speaker 4: where I was going. I ride it out. It didn't
Speaker 4: help the same way every time I thought they pondered me.
Speaker 4: They probably watched me go by the four, but they
Speaker 4: ran ahead. I'm thinking that there's probably another one behind
Speaker 4: this healing pile. It's all kind of like right into
Speaker 4: their trap kind of thing. Right. I got out the
Speaker 4: bike and I left the area. No other had snow problems.
Speaker 4: But I got home and they told my wife. I said,
Speaker 4: I'm done with it. I said, that made me feel
Speaker 4: real easy. I just am done with I mean, I
Speaker 4: think I'm playing with you know though, what they're going
Speaker 4: to do. I don't think they're going to sit around
Speaker 4: the outlayre tooking, you know, marshallows, that's for sure, and
Speaker 4: they certainly have the size to be very degerous. They
Speaker 4: wanted me, so we're all kind of stopped in Alaska
Speaker 4: for me. Thread After that happened, I backed off of
Speaker 4: it other than to occasily look for a track or something.
Speaker 4: And I did notice through just the experience of going
Speaker 4: up there, seeing those log formations, stick formations that they
Speaker 4: had made, I know, driving around Alaska and the rest
Speaker 4: of life hunting and fishing, and I would have He's
Speaker 4: going to see those in other areas. Now, I just
Speaker 4: made the metal rot, you know. But other than that,
Speaker 4: I never experienced anything else after that happened in Alaska.
Speaker 3: I had a couple of questions for you real quick.
Speaker 3: When you were kneeling with your focus was to your left,
Speaker 3: when this thing was coming out from the trees. What
Speaker 3: was the feeling you had? Did the hair stand on
Speaker 3: arms or anything of that nature, or was it more
Speaker 3: of a just a whoa kind of curiosity.
Speaker 4: I'm glad you asked that, because I did leave something out,
Speaker 4: but least first me and eye contact. I literally felt
Speaker 4: like I had stuck my finger in one tent. I
Speaker 4: just felt like that, like I literally got shot. Nows
Speaker 4: it was adrenaline or what happened there, but I felt
Speaker 4: a jolt of electricity got into my body. I can't
Speaker 4: explain it. I imagine it was adrenaline if you see
Speaker 4: something like that in real life and then yeah, you're
Speaker 4: about let you see it, and especially as such close
Speaker 4: range it, I just felt like I stuck my finger
Speaker 4: away socket right.
Speaker 3: I always described it as every fiber of your being
Speaker 3: wanting to flee, but it's stuck in your skin. That
Speaker 3: That's the best description I could ever come up with
Speaker 3: as far as that feeling goes. And you were feeling
Speaker 3: like there was coordinated effort when you realized that you
Speaker 3: were at going towards that pinch point. Did you have
Speaker 3: any similar feelings? Then?
Speaker 4: All myself then was once I realized what potentially could
Speaker 4: be going down there, if there was one behind that feeling,
Speaker 4: file was getting out of here in.
Speaker 3: It right right man? Yeah? You know, with the experiences
Speaker 3: that you've dealt with over the years, do you feel
Speaker 3: like your intuition when it comes to these beings has
Speaker 3: been heightened due to those experiences?
Speaker 4: Absolutely? No matter what I do or where I go,
Speaker 4: I'm constantly thinking of pushing the woods, you know, listally
Speaker 4: a couple of year your stories, especially that one on
Speaker 4: the night after the Alaska I've actually spent time on
Speaker 4: t Chick Lake or Naykuk Lake or do you want
Speaker 4: to call it. Last time it was up there was
Speaker 4: there for a week and we were caribou hunting. I
Speaker 4: didn't have any experiences there at all, But now that
Speaker 4: I hear your stories, I'm glad I didn't.
Speaker 3: Holy Yeah, And you know that New Yorkuk River man
Speaker 3: from where tick chickens and it goes the New York
Speaker 3: Cuk all the way down to the New Sheigag and
Speaker 3: just above there by Harris Creek on up to Lake Clark.
Speaker 3: You know that whole area, if we were to draw
Speaker 3: it into a big triangle, that area has a very
Speaker 3: high concentration of indigenous encounters, you know, local villagers, relatives
Speaker 3: of mine. My cousin Nikolai, I've shared a couple of
Speaker 3: his experiences on the channel before even brought the Harryman
Speaker 3: up to him. We were talking. I had just started
Speaker 3: my channel before we hoped the phone. I was like, oh, hey,
Speaker 3: you got any good Harryman stories? And he goes, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I do. Have you ever been to the New YORKUK River?
Speaker 3: And I laughed because he never knew of my experience
Speaker 3: on the New York Cuk. You know, this was a
Speaker 3: decade and changed later, like sixteen years later. Unbeknounced to
Speaker 3: me until he filled me in. There has been so
Speaker 3: many different people, people on that river drainage, the smaller
Speaker 3: tributaries around there, that have had crazy experiences. A large
Speaker 3: portion of them has to do with firearms happen to
Speaker 3: be used to run these things off. The level of
Speaker 3: aggression in that area seems to be so high. There's
Speaker 3: a lot more encounters around gold mining. My experience, we
Speaker 3: were up there to do some panning, you know, potentially
Speaker 3: stake a claim. There's all these historical references around mining
Speaker 3: areas and places rich in quartz, gold, copper. It kind
Speaker 3: of makes you wonder why these areas with these concentrated
Speaker 3: minerals would have a drastically different experience, Like the Ape
Speaker 3: Canyon thing. You know, they were mining, and there's so
Speaker 3: many other ones that involved miners in these things coming
Speaker 3: in on them. It's kind of strange. Just speculation, of course,
Speaker 3: but just things that make you go hmm. I want
Speaker 3: to thank John for sharing his experiences up here in Alaska.
Speaker 3: Before I get too cold here, let me share with
Speaker 3: you what Samantha and Richard shares with us. Approximately ten
Speaker 3: years ago. Richard's uncle, he has a small little gold
Speaker 3: claim down by Hope. That place has a long lineage
Speaker 3: of gold mining, gold panning, and all that kind of stuff,
Speaker 3: and it also has a lineage of Harryman experiences. What
Speaker 3: ended up happening is is they came up from I
Speaker 3: believe it was Wisconsin area. They were newly married. Uncle said, hey,
Speaker 3: come up, you know, stastue some gold, get your a
Speaker 3: little nest egg, you know, getting your family started. And
Speaker 3: you know, Richard and Samantha obliged. They come up with
Speaker 3: no knowledge of Alaska, only postcards and you know, na
Speaker 3: geoshit and Discovery Channel stuff. So they were amazed at
Speaker 3: the beauty. His uncle's operation was real small. He had
Speaker 3: a pump that he would spray the bank and loosen
Speaker 3: up material and then take that material in buckets and
Speaker 3: going sluice it. So he basically had Samantha and Richard
Speaker 3: just being worker bees, collecting buckets of material for him
Speaker 3: to run through the sluice and they get a percentage.
Speaker 3: That's how they had it lined up. Again. This is
Speaker 3: about a decade ago. One of the trips they were
Speaker 3: going back and forth together. You know, they had the
Speaker 3: pump running and other machinery going and stuff where they
Speaker 3: weren't too afraid of bears. But I guess Samantha had
Speaker 3: just watched Grizzly Man, so bears were really got her
Speaker 3: freaked out, you know. So Richard be an understanding and
Speaker 3: it being new to him as well. They had a
Speaker 3: camp shotgun, so Richard would have had that slung over
Speaker 3: his back. On this one particular trip they had made
Speaker 3: about three or four that morning. On their next trip back,
Speaker 3: they were going to spray the banks some more and
Speaker 3: collect some more material at this particular location. Well, once
Speaker 3: they get to drop off the buckets, Richard's uncle needs
Speaker 3: a hand with one of the mechanisms that he was
Speaker 3: working with as far as this slice box. There was
Speaker 3: some kind of hinge leg or something that was acting up,
Speaker 3: kept collapsing and messing things up. So Richard was helping
Speaker 3: him with that, and Samantha figured, okay, she was a
Speaker 3: little more comfortable. She said, I'll go and get at
Speaker 3: least one more bucket of the material that's still left
Speaker 3: there or whatever while you guys are messing with that. So,
Speaker 3: thinking nothing of it, she heads off by herself and
Speaker 3: it's approximately about one hundred and fifty two hundred yards
Speaker 3: to this particular location you can get the bucket fill.
Speaker 3: She's carrying this five gallon bucket, and she said as
Speaker 3: she was walking along, the highest bank was off through
Speaker 3: her left hand side. As she's walking in, she said,
Speaker 3: it was about six foot elevation above her. The overburden
Speaker 3: the trees and stuff hadn't been pushed back there, but
Speaker 3: where they were spraying the bank, the overburden had been
Speaker 3: pushed back about one hundred yards or something like that.
Speaker 3: So as she's going along. There's basically a six foot
Speaker 3: bank to her left, about twenty feet away at six
Speaker 3: foot elevation above her. There's still trees there, willows and
Speaker 3: spruce and what have you. It was pretty dense from
Speaker 3: her field of view. She's kind of looking up. She
Speaker 3: keeps hearing this weird kind of grunt sound. But she
Speaker 3: heard something similar when her husband, Richard, was scooping water
Speaker 3: and the bucket would kind of rub against the gravel
Speaker 3: at the bottom of the water by this little creek.
Speaker 3: It would make this wolf kind of sound. So she
Speaker 3: attributed did the grunting she heard to that wasn't feeling
Speaker 3: weird until she got she said, about fifty feet from
Speaker 3: where their shovels were stuck in the ground from when
Speaker 3: they were filling up the buckets. She said, she got
Speaker 3: the weirdest feeling, and she thought Richard was sneaking up
Speaker 3: behind her because she felt a presence. She couldn't pinpoint
Speaker 3: at the moment, but she turned around and said, ah,
Speaker 3: you can't scare me or whatever, thinking it was her
Speaker 3: husband Richard. Well, nothing was there. She was like, wow,
Speaker 3: I feel like I'm being watched. She said. That's when
Speaker 3: the hair stood up on her neck and on her arms.
Speaker 3: She was looking around. She's studying the trees, and bears
Speaker 3: came flooding back into her mind. So she drops the bucket.
Speaker 3: Paul's ass back right, she said. As she's running. She's
Speaker 3: now got the bank off to her right hand side,
Speaker 3: approximately twenty feet away and six foot in elevation. But
Speaker 3: she heard a couple limbs breaking as she's running along.
Speaker 3: I just fixed what they're dealing with. So she stopped,
Speaker 3: and she didn't know what to say because she felt
Speaker 3: a little silly being freaked out. But she didn't see anything.
Speaker 3: She kind of but she heard the branches breaking, so
Speaker 3: she was dismissing it. She was reasoning it away. So
Speaker 3: Richard asked, what, jeez, you look like you saw a ghost.
Speaker 3: Are you okay? You know, just kind of joking around.
Speaker 3: She goes, well, I thought you were behind me. I
Speaker 3: felt a presence, and he was like, it's probably a bear.
Speaker 3: You just wait here, we'll go together. Finishes doing whatever,
Speaker 3: so he grabs buckets that he was carrying and he
Speaker 3: follows her and she leads away. Richard said. As they're
Speaker 3: walking along, Sametha kept looking over towards the trees and
Speaker 3: He kind of chuckled and was like, you're scared of
Speaker 3: those bears still, you know they're probably none around here,
Speaker 3: and started laying out every reason why the bears wouldn't
Speaker 3: be around with all the noise and this and that,
Speaker 3: and that's when she tells him, hey, I felt like
Speaker 3: I was being watched. I felt real uncomfortable, and that's
Speaker 3: why I ran back. But he was like really, So
Speaker 3: he decides he sets the buckets down when they get
Speaker 3: over by where their shovels were, and he was like, okay, well,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna walk up under the bank there. I'm going
Speaker 3: to take a look around. If I see anything, you know,
Speaker 3: I'll run it off, you know, give her a peace
Speaker 3: of mind. So as he's doing that, he gets out
Speaker 3: of her field of view, and she said, as she
Speaker 3: was standing there by the shovels, across the creek to
Speaker 3: her left, there's another higher bank that goes up and
Speaker 3: kind of pushes up in the small finger valley that
Speaker 3: they were near, her attention kept getting drawn off to
Speaker 3: her left and she kept looking, but she wasn't seeing
Speaker 3: anything right, So she was just like, man, it's the
Speaker 3: damn this feeling. I feel like I'm being watched. A
Speaker 3: few moments later, Richard comes back down the bank and
Speaker 3: he goes, I'm not seeing anything, you know, nothing out
Speaker 3: of the ordinary. Well down where they were at, there's
Speaker 3: a lot of moss and tundra in mixed within the trees, right,
Speaker 3: just like a lot of places around here, So he
Speaker 3: couldn't make out any tracks. Like Richard said, he was
Speaker 3: not a tracker. He's not from Alaska. He's not an
Speaker 3: outdoorsy guy. They were here to make a little nest egg,
Speaker 3: make a little profit doing the gold thing with his uncle.
Speaker 3: So he really wasn't an outdoorsman that could recognize track
Speaker 3: sign and all that kind of stuff. So, you know,
Speaker 3: he just chalked it up. But Samantha lets him know, hey,
Speaker 3: I keep getting a feeling from across over there something
Speaker 3: watching me. And he goes, okay, well I'm going to
Speaker 3: to stand with my back that direction, I'm gonna talk
Speaker 3: to you, and you just pretend to look at me,
Speaker 3: but look over my shoulder and look around right. And
Speaker 3: she thought it was odd. She was like, where you
Speaker 3: get this idea? And he goes, well, let's just see
Speaker 3: if someone's watching us, they think we're talking, maybe they'll
Speaker 3: move thinking you're not watching. She went along with it,
Speaker 3: so she had to kind of back up the little
Speaker 3: hill a little ways because Richard was much taller than her,
Speaker 3: just to see over his shoulder, because at first he
Speaker 3: was his blocking whole way, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: So she backed up a couple steps up onto this
Speaker 3: little rise and she's looking. She's about even with Richard
Speaker 3: at this point. She's looking over his shoulder. At one
Speaker 3: point she thought she saw a movement, and then she
Speaker 3: kind of came forward a couple steps because she was
Speaker 3: a few steps away from Richard. She's like, right over there,
Speaker 3: and he turns around. She's pointing he's not seeing the
Speaker 3: movement in the area that she had seen it. She
Speaker 3: was trying to point out that there's a small tree
Speaker 3: next to a small looking pine tree that looked like
Speaker 3: a Christmas tree, and the movement was in between there.
Speaker 3: So she keeps trying to explain him, and I understand
Speaker 3: for Richard's sake here there are several spots along that
Speaker 3: opposite bank that matched her description, so he's like, be
Speaker 3: more specific. So she picks up a rock and she
Speaker 3: chucks it across the way there in the direction that
Speaker 3: she's talking about because she was flustered. Well, she threw
Speaker 3: it pretty good because the distance was approximately thirty thirty
Speaker 3: five yards. The way she threw the rock, it hit
Speaker 3: and took a good bounce or two and then slid
Speaker 3: and was literally in the direction she wanted to point it.
Speaker 3: So she was like, yes, you know, she was stoked.
Speaker 3: She pointed out to Richard c in that direction between
Speaker 3: that tree and that tree, and he starts looking. He's
Speaker 3: got the shotgun slung over his shoulder. They're there to
Speaker 3: fillip some more buckets. He's looking. He sees movement, but
Speaker 3: it's blending in. It's almost like the shadows were moving,
Speaker 3: but he couldn't make out an outline. He couldn't make
Speaker 3: out anything. It just looked like shadows were moving in
Speaker 3: between the trees. This is in the morning hours. The
Speaker 3: sun's up. It's not like it's dark or dusk or
Speaker 3: real early in the morning where it's really dark in
Speaker 3: the trees. They're shadowing, but it's not dark enough to
Speaker 3: where he shouldn't make out something. So he's kind of
Speaker 3: bewildered by it, and he can't make anything out, so
Speaker 3: he dismisses it. He goes, look, it's just a shadow movie.
Speaker 3: She's looking and she goes, that's a guy over there.
Speaker 3: Now he's looking in between the two trees where he
Speaker 3: saw the shadow initially. Well, she's looking past at about
Speaker 3: ten fifteen feet where the trees get denser, and he
Speaker 3: starts looking again, and sure enough he sees the figure
Speaker 3: of a dude, and he's like, hey, hey, starts yelling Hey,
Speaker 3: you know you're on private property. You know you're not
Speaker 3: supposed to be over here. You go to your own claim.
Speaker 3: He thought it was one of the neighbor miners, just
Speaker 3: kind of peeking in to see if they're getting any
Speaker 3: good paydirt or whatever. So he immediately chalked it up
Speaker 3: to a creek. So he you know that creek they're
Speaker 3: drawing water from, and stuff wasn't all that deep, and
Speaker 3: he had on hip boots. So he starts walking across
Speaker 3: yelling at this guy. Right once he clears the water.
Speaker 3: Richard said that everything changed when he was coming at
Speaker 3: this thing aggressively and crossed that water threshold. He said,
Speaker 3: the woods where this thing was standing exploded with noise.
Speaker 3: He said that one of the trees that it was
Speaker 3: like kind of between it reached out and snapped it
Speaker 3: right while I was looking at him, snapped it. Then
Speaker 3: the thing stood up. So this thing was squatted down
Speaker 3: and it reached out and broke a tree. He said
Speaker 3: that tree had to have been eight foot tall. So
Speaker 3: this thing stood up. And now understand, this thing was
Speaker 3: on a little bit of a rise. It wasn't just
Speaker 3: on level ground with Richard, so when it did stand up,
Speaker 3: it was towering way over him. He had covered about
Speaker 3: twenty yards of that thirty five yard distance across there,
Speaker 3: so he is literally looking up at this thing, and
Speaker 3: he said it was massive. Once it broke the tree
Speaker 3: and stood up, it ripped off the top of that
Speaker 3: tree and threw it at Richard right now. He said
Speaker 3: when he threw it, it was more like a lazy toss,
Speaker 3: but it was very accurate because it landed right at
Speaker 3: his feet and kind of knocked him forward a little bit.
Speaker 3: He jumps up, starts back, and the way he's trying
Speaker 3: to unsling the shotgun because he's got it first style around.
Speaker 3: As he's doing that, this thing starts walking off to
Speaker 3: Richard's left and going kind of up the hill back
Speaker 3: up towards out into this little finger valley where this
Speaker 3: creek was coming out of He didn't know what to do.
Speaker 3: Richard said, he wet himself. It was so spontaneous. It
Speaker 3: wasn't like, you know, I'm scared, I'm gonna pee, he said.
Speaker 3: It was totally involuntary. It just happened right well. He
Speaker 3: starts backing way, unslinging the shotgun and this thing. He
Speaker 3: lost sight of it, so immediately him and Samantha they
Speaker 3: take off. Now, when they take off running, he's still
Speaker 3: fumbling with the shotgun, trying to make sure it's loaded.
Speaker 3: They had a couple of rubber bullets before it got
Speaker 3: into slugs, so he's popping those out and trying to
Speaker 3: hold on to him as he's running. He was so
Speaker 3: uncoordinated because he was so spooped and freaked out. He
Speaker 3: just dropped those and slid a slug into the chamber
Speaker 3: and put it on safety. Samantha's behind him. He's much taller,
Speaker 3: so he immediately got the jump on her. When he
Speaker 3: took off, Ronnie, he caught himself and stopped. Samantha was
Speaker 3: about ten paces behind him. As he turns around to
Speaker 3: look back where the shovels were, he's seen this thing
Speaker 3: squatted down, just kind of watching. He said, it had
Speaker 3: an ashen gray face. Its eyes were real big but dark.
Speaker 3: He couldn't make out any whites of the eyes. He said,
Speaker 3: the hair looked almost pitch black. It was basically a
Speaker 3: big mass.
Speaker 1: And stay tuned for more sasquat jotasy. We'll be right
Speaker 1: back after these messages.
Speaker 3: Because of Samantha obscuring his vision of totally viewing this thing,
Speaker 3: because she was running at it, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: he couldn't get a full visual. He immediately let her
Speaker 3: pass him, then turned around and started running behind her.
Speaker 3: He said. As they were going along, they still had
Speaker 3: a good one hundred yards through this brush to get
Speaker 3: to the clearing where his uncle was doing the sluicing.
Speaker 3: He said he heard off to his right hand side
Speaker 3: crashing and breaking. When they got up where his uncle was,
Speaker 3: he turned around. He raised the shotgun because it sounded
Speaker 3: like it was right on top of him. When he
Speaker 3: did that, his uncle was like, hey, don't shoot, don't shoot,
Speaker 3: don't shoot. Richard's like, there's a monster. It's chasing us.
Speaker 3: His uncle continues to say, don't shoot, don't shoot, don't shoot.
Speaker 3: His uncle comes over and he's trying to calm Richard down.
Speaker 3: And he's looking in the direction Richard is. Richard said
Speaker 3: that this thing looked like it crawled up into a
Speaker 3: better viewing position, was almost like doing a push up
Speaker 3: to look over the little berm off to their left
Speaker 3: hand side where they were looking to get a look
Speaker 3: at depth. His uncle was dump out. He was like,
Speaker 3: what the you know, what the fuck is that? So
Speaker 3: they're both standing there and they're having this kind of
Speaker 3: a Mexican standoff type deal where Richard's looking and pointing
Speaker 3: the shot. Richard said that this thing just looked genuinely curious.
Speaker 3: Was just kind of doing the head back and forth
Speaker 3: side to side like a dog would, but looking at him.
Speaker 3: As they're doing that, he said, it seemed like time
Speaker 3: stood still. He said he heard nothing his uncle was
Speaker 3: saying at that, And I guess his uncle, according to
Speaker 3: what Samantha was saying, was telling him, don't point a
Speaker 3: gun at it. Don't point a gun at it. I
Speaker 3: don't know what it is, but don't point a gun.
Speaker 3: It looks like a man. So Samantha was already on
Speaker 3: the other side of the sluice box kind of squatted down,
Speaker 3: looking at everything unfolding in front of her. She said
Speaker 3: that once Richard lowered the gun just a little bit,
Speaker 3: this thing stood up, turned, came down onto the trail,
Speaker 3: and then took back off, going the direction they just
Speaker 3: camp from, running down the trail this time right and
Speaker 3: plain view of everyone runs off. So they're all stood there,
Speaker 3: just stuck, like what the hell is going on?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 3: Well, there's this guy about fifteen minutes later, because where
Speaker 3: the sluice was set up was near the road, this
Speaker 3: particular guy coming by a little while later always stopped
Speaker 3: in to check on Richard's uncle. He pulls in and
Speaker 3: they're all still shook. Richard was smoking a cigarette with
Speaker 3: his uncle there. He was telling him everything that happened.
Speaker 3: This guy that came into their little camp came over
Speaker 3: to talk to his uncle and kind of over heard,
Speaker 3: and you know, his uncle starts explaining to the guy
Speaker 3: what just happened. The guy was like, oh, we call
Speaker 3: him the big one. Everyone was blown away. What do
Speaker 3: you mean the big one? He goes the biggest one
Speaker 3: of the group, and they're up and down in through here.
Speaker 3: You know, just be aware, you leave them alone, they'll
Speaker 3: leave you alone kind of thing. Well, immediately Richard's like bullshit.
Speaker 3: It threw a piece of tree at me, but it
Speaker 3: was stocking my wife. What do you mean, it'll leave
Speaker 3: you alone? He took that tone with the guy, and
Speaker 3: the guy was like, look, just leave it alone. It'll
Speaker 3: leave you alone. They weren't accepting that, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean. Long story short, as far as them packing
Speaker 3: up and leaving, they stop. They made it not very
Speaker 3: many days, just a few days. They made it doing
Speaker 3: that with their uncle until this incident happened. You know,
Speaker 3: they were just getting the hang of it from what
Speaker 3: they were saying. The uncle was still nice enough to share.
Speaker 3: God bless him. He since passed, but he was nice
Speaker 3: enough to share the gains from while they were there.
Speaker 3: I want to thank Richard and Samantha for sharing that. Again,
Speaker 3: this is down in the Hope area. There's a lot
Speaker 3: of people that have these experiences out there, like John
Speaker 3: from the interview yesterday. It's almost finding Waldough. You know
Speaker 3: where's Waldough? You spot him in those little puzzle books
Speaker 3: and stuff. But once you figure out what Waldo really
Speaker 3: looks like, you kind of easily pick them out as
Speaker 3: you go through, you know what I mean. It's almost
Speaker 3: like that, once you see one of these things, it
Speaker 3: almost makes it easier to see him. I don't know,
Speaker 3: it's kind of weird, just an observation. So this happened
Speaker 3: outside of Cordova. Prince William sound. Brian and Derek really
Speaker 3: good buddies, longtime buddies, love blacktail hunting. It so happened
Speaker 3: they came across some property right on the water. It
Speaker 3: was about ten acres or so. Brian wanted to go
Speaker 3: check it out, so he got a hold of Derek.
Speaker 3: Derek was game. They decided they're going to go two birds,
Speaker 3: one stone, check out this property, also get some hunting
Speaker 3: in right. This particular property had a little cove. It
Speaker 3: wasn't necessarily a safe cove, but it was doable, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean. If he did get it, he
Speaker 3: would have to drag his boat up on the shore
Speaker 3: and whatnot, and you know, deal with the tides and
Speaker 3: stuff like that. But it wasn't like a safe harbor,
Speaker 3: but it was a cove. It would be the only
Speaker 3: cabin if he built one in this particular area. So
Speaker 3: from what they said they had planned on they usually
Speaker 3: went hunting for about a week, regardless of looking at
Speaker 3: property or not. So Brian said, when they got there
Speaker 3: it was eerily quiet. There was no songbirds, there was
Speaker 3: no squirrel chatter, there was nothing. It was just dead
Speaker 3: quiet when they pulled up. So they double check coordinances
Speaker 3: and made sure they were in the right spot, and
Speaker 3: they were. They started looking for the markers that had
Speaker 3: been placed, boundary markers and whatnot. So as they're going through,
Speaker 3: Derek tells Brian, man, I feel like I'm being watched,
Speaker 3: you know. Brian's like, well, just keep your eye out.
Speaker 3: They were both armed. Derek said that he was carrying
Speaker 3: a ten millimeter Sema Otto had extra mags for it.
Speaker 3: He only used a two seventy wind mag for blacktail hunting,
Speaker 3: which is sufficient that are black bear regardless, there's plenty
Speaker 3: enough rifle for what he was looking at. Brian three
Speaker 3: hundred win mag get a nine millimeters pistol of some kind.
Speaker 3: He didn't elaborate. They're going through, they're checking out this property,
Speaker 3: they're checking out the stakes. Everything's lining up. They're liking
Speaker 3: the looks of it. Brian's getting really stoked because he'd
Speaker 3: been saving money for a while for a little vacation property,
Speaker 3: a little getaway property, and it was looking great. I mean,
Speaker 3: the views from where they were standing were good. They
Speaker 3: were just enjoying the hell out of it, right, So
Speaker 3: he made a mental note, I definitely want to look
Speaker 3: into purchasing this. That being settled, they continued on with
Speaker 3: their hunt. They drag a bunch of stuff on the shore.
Speaker 3: They cut back into this little cubby that is basically
Speaker 3: a rock base with a bunch of moss around it.
Speaker 3: They ended up digging a fire pit down to the
Speaker 3: bedrock which was just below the moss. Basically right, because
Speaker 3: you got to understand down southeast area, everything's fjored like
Speaker 3: it comes straight out of the water and starts elevating fats.
Speaker 3: You can look at all the time upographical maps you
Speaker 3: want about that area. It's all about the same. This
Speaker 3: particular spot had about fifty yards of a gentle slope
Speaker 3: before it started just really getting bonkers on the elevation changes.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: So they're in this little spot and basically they have
Speaker 3: a rock back drop behind them where they get set
Speaker 3: up their tent. They got enough space there for a
Speaker 3: good fire pit that ain't too close to where they're camping,
Speaker 3: and they're just really really feeling it for the first
Speaker 3: couple of days, right, dead quiet this whole time, which
Speaker 3: they were both starting to get concerned about They're like,
Speaker 3: maybe there's some black bearris we're unaware of in this area.
Speaker 3: So let's keep our eye out. Let's keep our food
Speaker 3: in a safe place away from us. Up High, they
Speaker 3: got the para cord out, they got what food out
Speaker 3: they were going to eat for that evening. They hung
Speaker 3: their cooler up from a tree way up high, had
Speaker 3: the line running away to another separate tree that was
Speaker 3: unaffiliated with where the cooler was at. You know, they
Speaker 3: were smart about it. So the first couple of days
Speaker 3: was dead quiet, no game, no signs of game. All
Speaker 3: the tracks they came across were old, not even sign
Speaker 3: of bear. So on that second day, Brian was up
Speaker 3: in this one spot. It was basically a ground blind
Speaker 3: they made while Derek was down basically beach combing seeing
Speaker 3: if any deer come down onto the beach and he
Speaker 3: could bag is his deer like that. During that second day,
Speaker 3: when Brian was up in this little ground blind they
Speaker 3: had made because behind him was just rock wall, there
Speaker 3: was some smaller brush and trees that was just perfect
Speaker 3: for him to lay some drop dunnage and stuff right
Speaker 3: there for perfect ground blind. He said, as he was
Speaker 3: sitting there. He kept feeling like he was being watched.
Speaker 3: It felt like it's coming from behind him. But he
Speaker 3: had rocks behind him, tall rocks that were like, you know,
Speaker 3: twenty five thirty feet in elevation above and behind him.
Speaker 3: So once a while he would look up and behind him.
Speaker 3: He wasn't seeing anything. He was just getting creeped out
Speaker 3: big time. That day goes on dead, Derek saw one
Speaker 3: deer across this little inlet was poofield was gon. He
Speaker 3: wasn't going to chase it because he had probably a
Speaker 3: mile and a half to get around to where he
Speaker 3: saw it at going by the beach, and that thing
Speaker 3: was long gone. He wasn't even after it. It was
Speaker 3: like that's just way too much, especially after a long
Speaker 3: day of going back and forth. Derek said he spent
Speaker 3: a lot of that day sitting on rocks just inside
Speaker 3: the brush line, just kind of watching the shoreline for
Speaker 3: any sign of anything dead. Quiet. So that night, their
Speaker 3: second night there, from what Derek said, Brian was beat
Speaker 3: because where he had this little ground blind, it was
Speaker 3: work to get up there. It was above a game
Speaker 3: trail by about seventy feet. It basically boiled down to
Speaker 3: Brian hadn't been in the best of shape and he
Speaker 3: was paying the price for it. Brian admitted that his
Speaker 3: cardio wasn't up to par. He was just wiped out.
Speaker 3: So Derek is out, He's cooking the dinner and Brian's
Speaker 3: gonna crash a little bit and he'll eat later. You know,
Speaker 3: that was their plan. So from what Derek was saying,
Speaker 3: this little spot was us elevated and it sloped away
Speaker 3: from where their fire pit was, so it sloped down
Speaker 3: and it reached brush and basically they had a panoramic
Speaker 3: view about one hundred and eighty degrees or so out
Speaker 3: in front of them. There's bigger old growth trees around,
Speaker 3: but they were a little less dense in that area
Speaker 3: and it's mainly shrubs. But they could see out into
Speaker 3: this little inlet just perfectly right, and the wind was
Speaker 3: blowing directly inbounds, so they were blocked. Their fire was good,
Speaker 3: and he was just enjoying the scene. Dead quiet. Now,
Speaker 3: like I said, where they were camped, it was about
Speaker 3: twenty five thirty foot up sheer rock, and then there
Speaker 3: was a little bit of a cliff and then more
Speaker 3: trees started and stuff. So as he was sitting there,
Speaker 3: he was paying attention to the fire, kind of not.
Speaker 3: They had a little tripod deal of cast iron with
Speaker 3: a kettle on it. He was basically heating up beans
Speaker 3: and francs. I had an adjustable chain, sover once in
Speaker 3: a while he was adjusting the chain so it wouldn't
Speaker 3: burn and stuff. When you're dealing with cast iron, anyone
Speaker 3: who's worked over a fire with it, nos, you got
Speaker 3: to be able to elevate it away from the heat
Speaker 3: to control it. Otherwise you're just going to burn the
Speaker 3: shit out of stuff. So Derek is working that He's
Speaker 3: sitting back and just enjoying the view. The fire is
Speaker 3: in front of him and he's watching the kettle. He's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's about warm enough. You know, the dogs are probably
Speaker 3: cooked in there by now, he said. Just as he
Speaker 3: stood up, he saw a branch falling land right in
Speaker 3: the fire, right next to a little tripod thing, and
Speaker 3: he was like, whoa. He looked up behind him, saw
Speaker 3: nothing and figured, oh, that little bit of wind must
Speaker 3: have knocked a branch loose that was already broken and
Speaker 3: it just kind of flung and happenstance landed by the fire.
Speaker 3: Thought nothing of it goes over and starts dishing up
Speaker 3: into his little stainless steel bowl, and he said he
Speaker 3: was feeling like he's being watching. He looks back up
Speaker 3: behind him real fast because he's just getting the creeps right,
Speaker 3: and he says he saw a movement, but he couldn't
Speaker 3: make it out. He wasn't sure if he was just turning,
Speaker 3: and the moss there kind of looked like it moved.
Speaker 3: He was thrown off by it as he's trying to
Speaker 3: figure out what the hell, you know, because he's really
Speaker 3: got the ebgb's, I mean, he's freaking out. So he
Speaker 3: goes over. He had his ten millimeter on his hip
Speaker 3: at all times, so he goes over. He had unloaded
Speaker 3: the round out of his chamber out of his two
Speaker 3: seventy earlier when they first got back to camp, so
Speaker 3: he went back over it chambered around in it, right.
Speaker 3: He wakes Brian up. Brian was real groggy and tired,
Speaker 3: but he was like, don't be paranoid. There hasn't been
Speaker 3: even any animals here, so chill out. You know, if
Speaker 3: anything it was, you know, maybe a lone fox or
Speaker 3: something that just peaked at you or whatever and just
Speaker 3: freaked out. Maybe it was a moss, you know, gave
Speaker 3: him some excuses and you know he reasoned it away
Speaker 3: and left it at that. Well, it being in the
Speaker 3: early fall time, our midfall ish down southeast, there's still
Speaker 3: a bunch of leaves on the trees. It wasn't like,
Speaker 3: I mean, our leaves fall up here long before there's
Speaker 3: due down there, right, It's just a matter of you know,
Speaker 3: going further north and whatnot. So Derek's calms down after
Speaker 3: a while, he starts getting feeling like he's being watched again.
Speaker 3: This time he's fighting his senses because he feels like
Speaker 3: he's just spooked and he's feeling like a little ten
Speaker 3: year old kid scared of the dark because it's starting
Speaker 3: to get dark. He's trying to make sense of these
Speaker 3: weird feelings he's having, and he's feeling like something's watching
Speaker 3: him off to his left hand side, and every once
Speaker 3: in a while he'll glance over and he won't see anything.
Speaker 3: He's getting flustered because it's not adding up, and so
Speaker 3: he's feeling like, in his words, he was starting to
Speaker 3: feel like a woofs for getting rattled for nothing. They're
Speaker 3: in a safe spot, nothing around, he's got guns, you know,
Speaker 3: there's nothing to be scared of. So he eats, and
Speaker 3: he said he decided instead of letting his dish just
Speaker 3: sit dirty, he was going to walk down to the
Speaker 3: waterline before got real dark and wash out utensils and stuff.
Speaker 3: And so he wakes Brian up and goes, hey, you
Speaker 3: want to eat before I clean up? You know, I
Speaker 3: want to be beare safe, and I want to get
Speaker 3: this kettle cleaned out. I don't want stuff to stick
Speaker 3: in to it. I'll put the leftovers in a tupperwar
Speaker 3: put it in the cooler and all this right, And
Speaker 3: Brian's like, I'm too tired, just you know, put it up.
Speaker 3: I'll eat it in the morning or maybe a midnight
Speaker 3: snack or something. Right. So Derek's like, all right, I
Speaker 3: warned you. You know, I asked you. So he goes
Speaker 3: He puts the food in the tupperware dish, lowers down
Speaker 3: the cooler, puts it in there, drags it back up,
Speaker 3: ties it back off, comes back up, retrieves a kettle.
Speaker 3: He could have sworn the big spoon he had in
Speaker 3: there was still in the kettle, but it was missing.
Speaker 3: He's like, well, that's weird. Maybe I dropped it. So
Speaker 3: he's looking around for a minute. Go screw it out,
Speaker 3: I'll find it. Takes a kettle along with his plate,
Speaker 3: drops his little bowl in there and his utensil, and
Speaker 3: goes down to the water. He slung his rifle over
Speaker 3: his shoulder as he started down the trail. It wasn't
Speaker 3: horribly dark, from what he said. It was easily light
Speaker 3: enough to see. He didn't even worry about a flashlight.
Speaker 3: But it was going on to be getting into darkness
Speaker 3: real soon. So he gets down there and he's mindful
Speaker 3: of his surroundings. He's constantly looking around. He's washing stuff out,
Speaker 3: you know, and he gets it all cleaned up and stuff.
Speaker 3: At this point, the tide had started going out, so
Speaker 3: he had to go a little ways to get down
Speaker 3: to the water. So the rocks were a little slippery
Speaker 3: and stuff. So he was navigating that, negotiating his way
Speaker 3: back up to the trail that led up to where
Speaker 3: they were camping. He said, once he got onto non
Speaker 3: slippery gravel of the beach, he got the overwhelming sense
Speaker 3: of being watched again. He said. He was taking a
Speaker 3: hard look. He was just looking up and down the tree,
Speaker 3: you know, because it was the cut bank and stuff.
Speaker 3: With the way the trees were, everything was kind of
Speaker 3: leaned over and there was a lot of shadowing and
Speaker 3: he couldn't make out a whole lot, so he just
Speaker 3: got the creeps. Figured, Okay, I'm freaking myself out. I
Speaker 3: need to stop. Let me just take this stuff up
Speaker 3: to camp and i'll call it at night here in
Speaker 3: a little bit. So from what he was saying as
Speaker 3: he was going back up this trail, and again it's
Speaker 3: about fifty yards pretty decent slope, but not as bad
Speaker 3: as it turned into just from where their camping area
Speaker 3: was on up the elevation change was drastic, so he's
Speaker 3: taking his time hiking up there, and because he had
Speaker 3: been hiking all day, he was pretty tired. So about
Speaker 3: halfway or so, he stopped and he set the kettle
Speaker 3: and stuff down with his dish in it. He said
Speaker 3: it made a little bit of a clank sound, and
Speaker 3: it was a dulled clank because of the moss he
Speaker 3: dropped it in instead of just dropping it on a rocket.
Speaker 3: It clang. It was kind of like clunk. He said.
Speaker 3: He heard that sound coming from about twenty five feet
Speaker 3: away off in the brush where he couldn't see the
Speaker 3: same clunk sound. He said it wasn't quite the same,
Speaker 3: but it was like an imitation of it, and he
Speaker 3: was like, there's no way that was an echo. Kind
Speaker 3: of got freaked out again, picked up that kettle and
Speaker 3: continued walking. He was he was a little more motivated.
Speaker 3: He got a little adrenaline rush, so he kicks on
Speaker 3: up to the campsite. Brian had got up. Brian was
Speaker 3: stoking the fire when he came back up. He saw
Speaker 3: him from a little bit of a distance and called
Speaker 3: out to him, Oh you're up. You missed the food,
Speaker 3: and YadA, YadA. Brian was just like, you know, going
Speaker 3: doing this number, like don't talk, you know, going like this,
Speaker 3: and Derek was like, all right. So he gets up
Speaker 3: to the campsite, says, stuff down and whispers what's going on.
Speaker 3: Brian faces him and says, look off to our left,
Speaker 3: my left, you're right down this hill about twenty five yards.
Speaker 3: There's something down there in the brush. He looks off
Speaker 3: to his right and he's not seeing it right, and
Speaker 3: he goes, are you sure, and he goes, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I was woke up. Something was throwing small rocks at
Speaker 3: the tent and it woke me up because just as
Speaker 3: you were leaving. I was trying to fall back asleep,
Speaker 3: and that's when it started. He said, well, how do
Speaker 3: you know there are little rocks? He goes, cause I
Speaker 3: got out of the tent and one of them almost
Speaker 3: hit me, and it hit the tent, and I saw
Speaker 3: there was about five or six of these little rocks,
Speaker 3: just small little rocks that had been obviously picked up
Speaker 3: from the beach down below. He goes, I thought it
Speaker 3: was you messing with me, throwing these rocks, so I
Speaker 3: came outside to kick your ass, and you were in here,
Speaker 3: so I knew it wasn't you. And that's when I
Speaker 3: saw that this dark thing, and Derek's not saying what
Speaker 3: Brian is. Finally Brian pulls him over to where he's
Speaker 3: standing and points and guides his eyes to this brush
Speaker 3: where this dark mass was. It's getting on into dusk,
Speaker 3: so it's really not easy to see what Brian's trying
Speaker 3: to point out. But as he's pointing at it, this
Speaker 3: thing moves and shifts and it allows to catch sight
Speaker 3: of it. Then it quietly moves away, gets into the brush,
Speaker 3: and they hear a little bit of brush movement and
Speaker 3: then it's gone. So Derek's like, is that a bear?
Speaker 3: Brian chimes in with bears don't f and throw rocks,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Bears don't have thumbs to
Speaker 3: throw rocks. Derek's like, all right, calm down. I'm trying
Speaker 3: not to get freaked out because when I set this
Speaker 3: kettle down, something imitated it back. So they're getting spooked.
Speaker 3: Continue to stoke the fire, and they decide before it
Speaker 3: gets any darker, they need to retrieve some bundles of
Speaker 3: firewood they had down at the skiff, and they decided
Speaker 3: they're going to do it together. Brian grabs his three
Speaker 3: in a wind mag Derek already had his two seventy.
Speaker 3: They hike on down. When they got to the skiff,
Speaker 3: they had a tarp over all their stuff. One portion
Speaker 3: of the tarp because they had extra fuel cans, they
Speaker 3: had some extra gear and stuff still in there that
Speaker 3: they weren't gonna need, just basically emergency stuff and some
Speaker 3: leftover firewood stuff. So one part of that tarp was
Speaker 3: kicked over like someone had been into it. Derek, did
Speaker 3: you get into the skiff when he came down to
Speaker 3: do the dishes? And he said no, So they were
Speaker 3: both intrigued, they start looking around. Derek said, when he
Speaker 3: pulled the tart back in the spot where the firewood was,
Speaker 3: it made that sound. There was an imitation of that
Speaker 3: almost immediately from the brush right behind them, about less
Speaker 3: than forty feet, he said, creeped him out instantly. They
Speaker 3: turn around. They got rifles point in that direction, their
Speaker 3: flashlights they had left up in the tent because it
Speaker 3: was dusk. It wasn't dark enough to really justify a
Speaker 3: flashlight at that point. You know, they'd only plan on
Speaker 3: grabbing the firewood and getting back, so they're immediately spooped.
Speaker 3: They take a few minutes they calmed down. Derek said,
Speaker 3: he grabs the firewood. Brian's gonna watch his back as
Speaker 3: they packed the firewood back up to their little camp.
Speaker 3: So they start back up, and the whole time they
Speaker 3: keep looking off to their left because that's where that
Speaker 3: sound of the tart came from.
Speaker 1: And stay tuned for more sasquatch out to se right
Speaker 1: back after these messages.
Speaker 3: He said he thought he heard it another time when
Speaker 3: he was fixing the tarp after grabbing the firewood out,
Speaker 3: but he couldn't be sure because he was really spooked
Speaker 3: and he didn't want to hear something that he wasn't
Speaker 3: hearing kind of thing from being hyper freaked out. So
Speaker 3: they get back up there to their camp and from
Speaker 3: what Brian said was Brian was tending to the fire.
Speaker 3: Derek had gone into the tent to retrieve some headlamps
Speaker 3: and a big floodlight. They had a spotlight like flashlight.
Speaker 3: When he was in there, he was looking for it,
Speaker 3: calling back, hey, which bag YadA YadA. Brian said he
Speaker 3: was looking back down in the direction at this point
Speaker 3: of where this sound came from the high strangeness, and
Speaker 3: he said he saw what he thought was a black
Speaker 3: bear standing up on two feet and then dropping down
Speaker 3: onto all fours. He said he saw it once or
Speaker 3: twice and was like, wow, you know, that's really weird,
Speaker 3: and then nothing. It just blended in the darkness that
Speaker 3: was coming on. He told Derek about it when he
Speaker 3: came out of the tent. Derek spots that, you know,
Speaker 3: use that spotlight down the hill towards that direction and
Speaker 3: they just seep brush. You know, they don't see nothing.
Speaker 3: So they calm down. They start getting real real tired,
Speaker 3: long day hiking, hiking around checking the property markers, all
Speaker 3: that stuff was catching up to them both, so they decide,
Speaker 3: we'll crash out. We'll worry about that stuff in the morning.
Speaker 3: Let's just be ready. Don't shoot each other, but be armed,
Speaker 3: keep your farms close, and let's get some sleep. So
Speaker 3: they go to sleep uneventful evening. They heard some weird
Speaker 3: noises once or twice, but that was it. The next morning,
Speaker 3: when they get up, they get up extra early because
Speaker 3: again they're there to deer hunt as well, and they
Speaker 3: want to get to spots before the animals start moving
Speaker 3: and before he gets fully light out. As they're gathering
Speaker 3: up their stuff and getting ready to do that, they
Speaker 3: decide to'll eat breakfast when they get back, so no
Speaker 3: strange smells are scaring off deer. Even though they ain't
Speaker 3: seen any fresh sign of deer or anything except for
Speaker 3: the one across a little inlet, there was still game
Speaker 3: to hut. They get up. Brian, from how he was
Speaker 3: feeling last time the day before when he was up
Speaker 3: there feeling watched, he didn't want to go up there,
Speaker 3: so Derek said, I will, and you can walk the
Speaker 3: beach and have fun with that shit, you know, you know,
Speaker 3: just being buddies, you know, talking trash, or whatever. Brian said, sure,
Speaker 3: So Derek commences to make his way. He said he
Speaker 3: lost track of the trail once or twice because he
Speaker 3: had his head lamp on red and was trying to
Speaker 3: with the moss and everything. It was really hard to
Speaker 3: make out with the red light versus you know, the
Speaker 3: incandescent light. So he gets up to this little ground
Speaker 3: blind right, and again it's about seventy feet off of
Speaker 3: this game trail that he had just followed and then
Speaker 3: cut up from to get up to this spot. Off
Speaker 3: to his left hand side. He said. From that blind
Speaker 3: area was a pretty good sized old growth tree about
Speaker 3: two arms length from where he was sitting with the
Speaker 3: little ground blind in front of him, another old growth
Speaker 3: tight off to his right hand side, and then some
Speaker 3: brush and stuff right. He felt he was in a
Speaker 3: really good secure place. You know, it was rock based
Speaker 3: behind him. Sat there quietly waiting, he said. As the
Speaker 3: morning went on, it was just starting to get light
Speaker 3: up on the horizon, he knew the animals would be
Speaker 3: moving soon. He kept hearing a weird like rustling sound
Speaker 3: and he couldn't pinpoint where he's coming from because being
Speaker 3: up on that hillside. He said, when a sound happened
Speaker 3: down at the beach. It could sound like it's happening
Speaker 3: right next to you, but it's coming from down there
Speaker 3: and echoing around. He's sitting there trying to figure out
Speaker 3: what the rustling was going on, and so finally he
Speaker 3: stands up because he's like, man, if I can make
Speaker 3: out the silhouette of a deer, I'll bag it if
Speaker 3: it's close enough, and I can make sure I can
Speaker 3: get a target on it, you know, a good site picture.
Speaker 3: So he stands up and he looks down on the
Speaker 3: game trail. He sees a very large mass. He couldn't
Speaker 3: make it out, but it was not a deer, far
Speaker 3: too big to be a black bear. So he decides click.
Speaker 3: He turns on his headlamp, and his headlamp when he
Speaker 3: turned it on, he said all he saw was eyeshine
Speaker 3: and blackness, and this thing bolted down the trail right immediately.
Speaker 3: He's freaked out. He starts screaming for Brian, Brian, Brian.
Speaker 3: He's concerned for his friend. Where he said this thing
Speaker 3: was large. He couldn't make out any kind of facial
Speaker 3: features or hands or any of that shit. It was
Speaker 3: too dark. It was pitch black, but the eye shine.
Speaker 3: He saw big eye shine, red eye shine, and this
Speaker 3: thing bolted. He said it was fast, so immediately he's
Speaker 3: concerned about his friend, but he's not going to follow
Speaker 3: the direction this thing went. He is going down the
Speaker 3: hill as best he can without falling and tumbling over
Speaker 3: to get down to the beach where Brian said he
Speaker 3: was going to be right. So, as Derek is coming
Speaker 3: down the hill from Brian's perspective, he hears the thrashing
Speaker 3: and crashing and stands up from where he is sitting
Speaker 3: and walks out on the beach so he can get
Speaker 3: a vantage point looking up the hill, and Brian said
Speaker 3: he thought Derek started screaming, But about halfway down the distance,
Speaker 3: coming to where he's trying to intercept Brian, where Brian's
Speaker 3: supposed to be, Brian starts hearing this scream and this
Speaker 3: high pitched wailing screaming. He thinks it's Derek. Derek is
Speaker 3: freaking the hell out because the scream is coming from
Speaker 3: behind him. He's not the one screaming. He ain't even
Speaker 3: breathing at this point. He's so freaked out and he's
Speaker 3: just hauling ass. He had dropped his rifle, fell a
Speaker 3: couple times, hot back up, still trying to run. He
Speaker 3: twisted his ankle a little bit, but he was adrenaline pumping.
Speaker 3: So from Brian's perspective, as Derek's coming down the hill,
Speaker 3: he could see Derek's headlamp and it's bouncing all around.
Speaker 3: He's seen him fall a couple of times, and he
Speaker 3: starts yelling out to him, this way, I'm over here,
Speaker 3: I'm over here now. After the initial scream that really
Speaker 3: started Derek's panic coming down the hill, it screamed again
Speaker 3: as Derek got closer to Brian. The second scream was
Speaker 3: very deep, kind of like the air raid siren thing,
Speaker 3: and then went super high pitched where it almost sounded
Speaker 3: like a real sharp, long whistle. Right But they knew
Speaker 3: it was a scream because it started off as a
Speaker 3: little grumbly kind of yelling, kind of war worked up
Speaker 3: and then super high pitched. And they don't know where
Speaker 3: it's coming from. It's coming from the darkness of that
Speaker 3: little hillside there. They got no clue. They're flashing flashlights,
Speaker 3: they got their head lamps on their shoulder or shoulder,
Speaker 3: they got the firearms and stuff. They don't know what
Speaker 3: to do. They're stuck. They can't believe what's going on.
Speaker 3: But there's something massive screaming at them, been throwing rocks,
Speaker 3: been messing with them for days. Just don't know what
Speaker 3: to make of it. They hadn't really seen anything other
Speaker 3: than large masses here and there, right, So they decide
Speaker 3: they're going to go back down to the skiff and
Speaker 3: hang out at the skiff somewhere where they can hunker
Speaker 3: down in and look out and around and feel some
Speaker 3: kind of I guess safety, no matter how far fetched
Speaker 3: it is the human mind. You'd be happy in a
Speaker 3: cardboard box in that situation as long as you got
Speaker 3: some kind of barrier between you and the darkness, you know,
Speaker 3: so Derek said. As they were sitting in the skiff,
Speaker 3: Brian was like, why were you screaming so loud at first?
Speaker 3: And Derek tells them that wasn't me, that was something screaming.
Speaker 3: The same thing that screamed, you know. A few moments
Speaker 3: later or whatever, they're sitting there like, what the hell
Speaker 3: was that? You know? They said bigfoot? At first, they
Speaker 3: were talking about bigfoot, but they thought that was a
Speaker 3: Pacific Northwest thing, right, because they never really heard of
Speaker 3: anything bigfoot in Alaska related, but not that they sought
Speaker 3: it out either. They didn't give a crap about the topic.
Speaker 3: You know, it was just not in their wheelhouse. It
Speaker 3: wasn't part of their day to day life. So it
Speaker 3: was like irrelevant to them until this happened, right, because
Speaker 3: they'd been hunting for years, no problems, no issues anywhere
Speaker 3: they've ever hunted, from the interior on down to the
Speaker 3: Prince Williams Sound or the Gulf of Alaska. Wherever they went,
Speaker 3: they had no issues. So they're sitting in the skiff.
Speaker 3: It gets to a point to where tight's coming in.
Speaker 3: They only have about forty feet they'd have to push
Speaker 3: their skiff to launch it and get out of there.
Speaker 3: So they start during this time as it's starting to
Speaker 3: slowly get lighter and lighter in the morning, they're gauging,
Speaker 3: let's do an assessment of what's up at that campsite
Speaker 3: and do we need it immediately. Derek and I laughed
Speaker 3: with him because he was like, oh, hell no, I
Speaker 3: got my guns, that's it. You know, my wallet stays
Speaker 3: in my pocket. Brian had his wallet. They had all
Speaker 3: their pertinent stuff always on them, in their pockets or
Speaker 3: in their vests or whatever. So they did a quick assessment,
Speaker 3: and they're like a couple hundred dollars worth of gear
Speaker 3: versus hiking back up there whatever it can keep that gear.
Speaker 3: They resigned themselves to just wait for the tide to
Speaker 3: come in a little bit more, wait for it to
Speaker 3: get a little lighter, and they got out of there.
Speaker 3: I asked Brian, how did he initially feel thinking his
Speaker 3: friend was screaming like that? Right, because when a friend
Speaker 3: screamed like that, you know it's different, even though it
Speaker 3: wasn't his friend. And I asked him, when you initially
Speaker 3: thought it was your friend, how did it feel to
Speaker 3: hear that? And he goes, my hair stood up on end.
Speaker 3: He goes, I had never heard a human scream like that,
Speaker 3: But I thought he was mortally injured or about to
Speaker 3: be mortally wounded. Because of that sound. I thought he
Speaker 3: was on the verge of dying or something. It was
Speaker 3: so intense, so loud. I want to thank them for
Speaker 3: putting in the effort to share their experience. He did
Speaker 3: not buy the property. From what he said, they never
Speaker 3: went back to gather up these things. This happened approximately
Speaker 3: five years ago, or the year before the COVID lockdowns
Speaker 3: came and stuff, so it was a fall before COVID
Speaker 3: lockdowns that following spring. Thank you Derek for sharing. You know,
Speaker 3: I'm sure people will be in the comments or whatever
Speaker 3: if you fill up to it. I know you know
Speaker 3: you wanted to remain anonymous. If you respond to comments,
Speaker 3: you run the risk of potentially being docksed or whatever.
Speaker 3: That's up to you. Thank you Brian for putting in
Speaker 3: the effort you could to share what you saw of
Speaker 3: what happened. Be careful out there, you never know. I'm
Speaker 3: not trying to scare anybody with this stuff. This is educational.
Speaker 3: Just be aware. In the Woodsman they.
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Speaker 5: Can you ride back?
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