Speaker 1: Welcome to Bedtime Astronomy. Explore the wonders of the cosmos
Speaker 1: with our soothing Bedtime Astronomy podcast. Each episode offers a
Speaker 1: gentle journey through the stars, planets, and beyond, perfect for
Speaker 1: unwinding after a long day. Let's travel through the mysteries
Speaker 1: of the universe as you drift off into a peaceful
Speaker 1: slumber under the night sky.
Speaker 2: I want you to just picture the total energy output
Speaker 2: of our sun. Oh wow, starting big, right, but I
Speaker 2: mean really picture it. Not just you know that the
Speaker 2: warmth you feel on your face on a summer afternoon.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's just a tiny fracture exactly.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about the sheer, just incomprehensible fusion reaction that's
Speaker 2: required to heat an entire solar system constantly, right, constantly,
Speaker 2: every single second. I mean, the Sun has been burning
Speaker 2: steadily for what about four and a half billion years.
Speaker 3: Yeah, give or take a few hundred million, and.
Speaker 2: It has an fuel to keep going for roughly another
Speaker 2: five billion years, right yeah, okay, So imagine taking every
Speaker 2: last drop of that energy, the absolute sum total of
Speaker 2: a ten billion year stellar.
Speaker 3: Lifespan, the entire tank of gas, yes.
Speaker 2: And then detonating it all at once in a fraction
Speaker 2: of a single second.
Speaker 3: It's it's almost impossible to actually visualize that.
Speaker 2: It really is. But today we were launching into an
Speaker 2: exploration of exactly that. One of the most violent anomalies
Speaker 2: ever recorded in space.
Speaker 3: It's a wild one.
Speaker 2: We're going to figure out why an explosion that basically
Speaker 2: broke every law of stellar physics has astronomers completely, you know,
Speaker 2: rethinking the cosmic food chain.
Speaker 3: It really threw everyone for a loop, it did.
Speaker 2: So our mission today is to tear apart the data
Speaker 2: behind an event called ERB two five seven zero two
Speaker 2: B and we're going to hunt down a prime suspect
Speaker 2: that has eluded astrophysicists for half a century.
Speaker 3: And when we talk about this scale of violence, I
Speaker 3: mean it really challenges the limits of our mathematical mind.
Speaker 3: It's off the charts totally. When we talk about a
Speaker 3: gamma ray burst or you know at GRB, we are
Speaker 3: not just talking about a big explosion. We're talking about
Speaker 3: these single most energetic luminous electromagnetic events occurring in the
Speaker 3: universe since the Big Bang.
Speaker 2: Itself, like nothing else comes close nothing.
Speaker 3: And the fundamental foundational rule of a gamma ray burst
Speaker 3: a rule we've relied on since well since the very
Speaker 3: first ones were detected by those old Villa military satellites
Speaker 3: back in the late sixties.
Speaker 2: Right, the ones looking for nuclear.
Speaker 3: Tests exactly, But the foundational rule they established is brevity.
Speaker 3: They are fleeting.
Speaker 2: They are the ultimate one and done cosmic events.
Speaker 3: Yes, out of the roughly fifteen thousand bursts we have
Speaker 3: cataloged over the last fifty years, the vast majority are
Speaker 3: over before you can even consciously register them, like a
Speaker 3: blink of an eye faster. Actually, a short burst might
Speaker 3: last a few milliseconds wow. And even a long burst,
Speaker 3: which is driven by what we call the collapse or model,
Speaker 3: that might last a couple of minutes at the absolute extreme, but.
Speaker 2: The fuel source is exhausted almost instant.
Speaker 3: Always the engine turns on, burns everything, and dies.
Speaker 2: But that entire framework completely collapsed. On July two, twenty
Speaker 2: twenty five.
Speaker 3: It really did.
Speaker 2: NASA's Fermi gamma RaSE based telescope triggers an alert for
Speaker 2: this GRB two five zero two B, and instead of
Speaker 2: flashing and fading into the background radiation like it's supposed to,
Speaker 2: the alarm just kept ringing.
Speaker 3: He didn't stop.
Speaker 2: It didn't stop for seven hours.
Speaker 3: Which is just I mean, the duration alone sent shockwaves
Speaker 3: through the astrophysics community. To have a burst persist for
Speaker 3: seven hours is statistically off the charge impossible, right, But
Speaker 3: the continuous duration wasn't even the most baffling part of
Speaker 3: the telemetry. Oh yeah, the light curve data exactly. The
Speaker 3: data showed that this event fired off three completely distinct
Speaker 3: massive bursts of gamma radiation spread out across an entire
Speaker 3: twenty four hour period.
Speaker 2: Which is just insane to think about.
Speaker 3: And when the high energy emission finally ceased, it left
Speaker 3: behind this multi wavelength after glow.
Speaker 2: Like visible in X ray, optical and radio bands.
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, all of them, and that lingering after glow
Speaker 3: lasted for months.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's unpack this because the contrast here is the
Speaker 2: crux of the entire mystery. If your standard gamma ray
Speaker 2: burst is like a single devastating camera flash going off
Speaker 2: in a pitch black stadium, then GRB two five ZHO
Speaker 2: seven oh two B was like someone firing up a
Speaker 2: massive industrial strobe light, leaving it running all day long,
Speaker 2: and like burning the bulb permanently into your retina.
Speaker 3: That is actually a terrifyingly accurate analogy.
Speaker 2: It sounds horrifying. And to really grasp why those three
Speaker 2: distinct pulses over twenty four hours through the whole astronomical
Speaker 2: community into chaos, we have to look at the engines
Speaker 2: that normally drive these.
Speaker 3: Bursts, right, the usual set.
Speaker 2: Historically we rely on two primary mechanisms. I'll take the
Speaker 2: first one, which is neutron star mergers.
Speaker 3: Okay, go for it.
Speaker 2: So when two neutron stars in a binary system lose
Speaker 2: orbital energy via gravitational ways, they viral inward.
Speaker 3: Toward each other, being closer and closer, and.
Speaker 2: When they finally cross the threshold and collide, the sheer
Speaker 2: kinetic and gravitational energy of that merger powers a massive,
Speaker 2: short lived, relativistic jet.
Speaker 3: Yeah, often resulting in an object that breaches the Tolmenopenheimer
Speaker 3: Volkoff limit and collapses into a black hole.
Speaker 2: Right. So that's engine number one, and.
Speaker 3: The second established engine is the collaps or model. This
Speaker 3: is the one that drives the longer.
Speaker 2: Burst, the ones that last a couple of minutes exactly.
Speaker 3: This requires a massive, rapidly rotating wolf ray star, a
Speaker 3: huge star huge when its core exhausts its nuclear fuel,
Speaker 3: electron degeneracy, pressure fails and the core instantly collapses into
Speaker 3: a black hole.
Speaker 2: Boom falls inward right.
Speaker 3: The outer layers of the star then free fall inward,
Speaker 3: creating a dense, superheated accretion disk around that new black hole.
Speaker 2: And that disc is what powers the jet.
Speaker 3: Yes, the intense magnetic fields channel a fraction of that
Speaker 3: infalling material into twin jets that just punched their way
Speaker 3: out through the stars outer envelope at near light speed.
Speaker 2: But and here is the massive problem. Both the merger
Speaker 2: model and the collapser model share a glaring limitation when
Speaker 2: you try to apply them to this July twenty.
Speaker 3: Twenty five event, a huge limitation.
Speaker 2: They are terminal, absolute, irreversible endings. You can't merge the
Speaker 2: same two neutron stars twice alone, three times exactly, let
Speaker 2: alone three times. And once a massive star undergoes core collapse,
Speaker 2: you can't magically reinflate the stellar envelope just to crush
Speaker 2: it again a few hours later.
Speaker 3: You really can't. The physics of a terminal event simply
Speaker 3: cannot support a twenty four hour stuttering explosion.
Speaker 2: It's one and done right.
Speaker 3: The structural integrity of the progenitor is permanently destroyed in
Speaker 3: milliseconds in both of those scenarios.
Speaker 2: So the scientists must have been losing their minds.
Speaker 3: Oh they were. When the Fermi data was published, the
Speaker 3: immediate reaction among theoreticians was this weird mix of intense
Speaker 3: fascination and complete.
Speaker 2: Bewilderment, like, what are we even looking at exactly?
Speaker 3: I mean, one of the lead investigators on the detection
Speaker 3: team flatly stated, and I quote, this is certainly an
Speaker 3: outburst unlike any other we've seen in the past fifty years.
Speaker 2: That's a huge statement from an astronomer.
Speaker 3: It is because it implied an engine that could generate
Speaker 3: apocalyptic amounts of energy, shut down and turn back on
Speaker 3: again with terrifying regularity.
Speaker 2: Which means the traditional standard candles and stellar death models
Speaker 2: had to be thrown completely out the window for this
Speaker 2: specific event into the trash. Astronomers had to start searching
Speaker 2: for an engine capable of tearing an immense amount of
Speaker 2: matter apart systematically, piece by piece, rather than destroying it
Speaker 2: all in a single terminal.
Speaker 3: Cataclos yes, a totally different kind of machine, and that.
Speaker 2: Search leads us to the primary suspect, a suspect that
Speaker 2: addresses a glaring, almost uncomfortable void in our mapping of
Speaker 2: the universe.
Speaker 3: And what's fascinating here is how the physical evidence from
Speaker 3: this unprecedented burst aligns perfectly with the theoretical object we
Speaker 3: have been hunting for decades. To really contextualize this suspect,
Speaker 3: we need to take a step back and look at
Speaker 3: the mass distribution of black.
Speaker 2: Holes the black hole scale.
Speaker 3: Right, at the lower end of the mass spectrum, we
Speaker 3: have stellar mass black holes.
Speaker 2: These are the common ones, right.
Speaker 3: Relatively speaking. Yeah, these are the direct remnants of the
Speaker 3: mass of star collapses we just discussed.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: They typically range from about three to perhaps fifty times
Speaker 3: the mass of our Sun, and they populate the galactic
Speaker 3: disc in the millions.
Speaker 2: Millions of them millions. Okay, So that's the small end.
Speaker 2: And at the absolute opposite extreme, we have the super.
Speaker 3: Massive black holes, the real monsters.
Speaker 2: The gravitational titans, anchoring the centers of virtually every large
Speaker 2: galaxy in.
Speaker 3: The universe, including Sagittarius, a star in our own Milky Way.
Speaker 2: Right, And here we are talking about singularities that pack
Speaker 2: the mass of millions or even tens of billions of
Speaker 2: suns into a space smaller than our solar system.
Speaker 3: It's hard to even wrap your head around that density,
Speaker 3: it really is.
Speaker 2: So you have the small ones and you have the
Speaker 2: super massive ones.
Speaker 3: But between those two extremes lies the missing population.
Speaker 2: The gap in the data, exactly.
Speaker 3: Intermediate mass black holes or imbhs. Mathematically, they absolutely must exist.
Speaker 2: Because the big ones had to come from somewhere.
Speaker 3: Right Precisely, the hierarchical merging models of galaxy formation suggest
Speaker 3: that supermassive black holes didn't just spring into existence fully.
Speaker 2: Formed, had to grow.
Speaker 3: They had to grow by consuming smaller black holes. So imbhs,
Speaker 3: which range from a few hundred to one hundred thousand
Speaker 3: solar masses, are the required evolutionary stepping stones.
Speaker 2: They're the missing link exactly.
Speaker 3: Furthermore, models of the early universe suggest that massive pristine
Speaker 3: gas clouds could have undergone direct collapse into imbh seeds, so.
Speaker 2: The math actually demands their existence. We should theoretically be
Speaker 2: tripping over these things in certain galactic environments.
Speaker 3: We really should.
Speaker 2: Yet observational astronomy has a notoriously difficult time finding them.
Speaker 3: It's been incredibly frustrating.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's the equivalent of paleontologists finding fossil evidence
Speaker 2: of millions of housecats and thousands of giant t rexes,
Speaker 2: but never finding a single skeleton of a wolf or
Speaker 2: a bear.
Speaker 3: That is a perfect way to put it.
Speaker 2: The entire middle of the mass distribution is essentially a ghost.
Speaker 3: Town, just completely empty.
Speaker 2: Why I mean, why is an object weighing fifty thousand
Speaker 2: suns so incredibly difficult to detect?
Speaker 3: It comes down to their environment and their accretion rates.
Speaker 2: Okay, break that down for us.
Speaker 3: So a black hole is by definition a region of
Speaker 3: space time where gravity prevents light from escaping.
Speaker 2: So they are inherently invisible right.
Speaker 3: The only way we ever detect them is through their
Speaker 3: interaction with surrounding.
Speaker 2: Matter, specifically when they feed.
Speaker 3: Exactly when they eat, they get messy, and we can
Speaker 3: see the mess Supermassive black holes sit in the dense,
Speaker 3: chaotic environment of a galactic core well lots of food,
Speaker 3: there a near infinite buffet of interstellar gas and wanderings.
Speaker 3: This creates massive, brilliantly luminous accretion discs and active galactic nuclei.
Speaker 2: So they shine incredibly bright because of all the friction.
Speaker 3: Yes, and on the other end, stellar mass black holes
Speaker 3: are often found in tight binary.
Speaker 2: Systems with a partner star, right.
Speaker 3: And they are continuously siphoning plasma off that companion star,
Speaker 3: which generates a steady stream of detectable X rays.
Speaker 2: So they're messy eaters in crowded rooms, which makes them visible.
Speaker 3: That's a great way to put it.
Speaker 2: But an intermediate mass black hole doesn't have those advantages,
Speaker 2: it really doesn't.
Speaker 3: They are too massive to maintain a tight, stable binary
Speaker 3: orbit with the standard star without just completely disrupting it.
Speaker 2: They're too bulky.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and dynamic friction models suggests many of them actually
Speaker 3: get kicked out of the galactic core during early merger.
Speaker 2: Events out like ejected.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Gravitational sling shots basically fling them outward, so they
Speaker 3: are relegated to the galacticalo or the outer disc, the suburbs.
Speaker 3: They're wandering through the vast empty suburbs of the galaxy.
Speaker 3: There's nothing to eat, exactly. The ambient interstellar gas density
Speaker 3: in these regions is incredibly low, so they're just starving basically. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: If you look at the Bondy Hoil Littleton accretion rate,
Speaker 3: which is what exactly, it's the formula that dictates how
Speaker 3: much ambient gas a black hole can passively sweep up
Speaker 3: just as it moves through space. Okay, according to that rate,
Speaker 3: and IMBH in the galactic suburbs is capturing almost nothing. Wow,
Speaker 3: it has no accretion disc it emits no X rays.
Speaker 3: It is just a silent, invisible gravitational sinkhole drifting through.
Speaker 2: The dark, drifting until its trajectory intersects with something massive
Speaker 2: enough to light up that dark.
Speaker 3: Precisely so, an intermediate.
Speaker 2: Mass black hole solves the problem of why the suspect
Speaker 2: was hiding from our telescopes.
Speaker 3: It fits the profile.
Speaker 2: But a quiet, starving black hole doesn't spontaneously generate a
Speaker 2: seven hour multi stage gamma ray burst.
Speaker 3: No it doesn't.
Speaker 2: It required it required a victim to cross its path.
Speaker 3: Yes it did.
Speaker 2: And that brings us to the specific mechanics proposed by
Speaker 2: these researchers. They didn't just point a finger at an IMBH.
Speaker 2: They modeled the exact crime scene.
Speaker 3: They really did. They introduced this concept called the Milli
Speaker 3: titled disruption event model.
Speaker 2: MILLI title disruption event Techi Right.
Speaker 3: And in this highly specific scenario, the catalyst the victim
Speaker 3: was a main sequence star, so.
Speaker 2: Just a regular stable hydrogen burning star, very much like
Speaker 2: our own son just.
Speaker 3: An ordinary star minding its own business, but through sheer
Speaker 3: cosmic bad luck, the dynamic orbital interactions within its local
Speaker 3: star cluster perturbed its trajectory.
Speaker 2: It got nudged.
Speaker 3: It got nudged, sending it on a path that brushed
Speaker 3: dangerously close to the gravitational sphere of influence of a
Speaker 3: lurking intermediate mass black hole.
Speaker 2: Now, when a star encounters a black hole, we often
Speaker 2: hear the term spagetification, which is, you know, a fun
Speaker 2: word for a truly horrifying.
Speaker 3: Process, very sunword, terrible way to go right.
Speaker 2: But to understand how this specific event generated gamma rays,
Speaker 2: we need to go beyond the basic definition of getting
Speaker 2: stretched out. We need to look at the gravitational gradient
Speaker 2: and something called the Roche limit.
Speaker 3: Ah, Yes, the Roche limit. So this is the critical
Speaker 3: distance at which the tidal force is exerted by a
Speaker 3: massive body. In this case, the black hole right exceed
Speaker 3: the gravitational forces holding the smaller body, the star together.
Speaker 2: So it's the point of no return for the star's
Speaker 2: structural integrity.
Speaker 3: Exactly as the star approaches the black hole, the gravitational
Speaker 3: pull on the star's leading hemisphere, the side facing the
Speaker 3: black hole is significantly stronger than the pole on its
Speaker 3: trailing hemisphere.
Speaker 2: Because gravity gets exponentially stronger the closer you get.
Speaker 3: Right, so the front is being pulled so much faster
Speaker 3: than the back. The star is literally stretched apart.
Speaker 2: Wait, hold on, here's where it gets really interesting, and
Speaker 2: where I have to just interrupt the standard tidal disruption model.
Speaker 3: Go for it.
Speaker 2: If the star crosses the Roche limit and the title
Speaker 2: sheer forces overcome its self gravity, the star is ripped
Speaker 2: apart into a stream of superheated plasma. Half of that
Speaker 2: material gets ejected out into the interstellar medium, and the
Speaker 2: other half circularizes into an accretion disk around the black hole.
Speaker 3: The buffet opens right.
Speaker 2: The black hole feeds, and through the Blanford's nagic process,
Speaker 2: the twisting of magnetic field lines in the ergosphere acts
Speaker 2: as an immense particle accelerator.
Speaker 3: Blasting a relativistic jet toward Earth.
Speaker 2: Okay, so that perfectly explains a massive burst of energy.
Speaker 2: It does, But you just said the stars ripped apart.
Speaker 3: I did.
Speaker 2: If the progenitor is shredded into a plasma stream, how
Speaker 2: does the Fermi telescope register three distinct bursts over twenty
Speaker 2: four hours. The math just doesn't add up.
Speaker 3: It really doesn't seem to.
Speaker 2: You cannot cross the roche limit and suffer complete structural
Speaker 2: failure three times.
Speaker 3: You are absolutely correct. And that is the exact physical
Speaker 3: contradiction that the team had to solve.
Speaker 2: Because you can eat the same star three times, right.
Speaker 3: A standard tidal disruption event or TDE, involves a deep
Speaker 3: plunge where the periapsis, which is the closest point of
Speaker 3: the orbit, is well inside the roach limit, so.
Speaker 2: It dives deep into the danger zone.
Speaker 3: Deep bin and in that standard scenario, total disruption is instantaneous.
Speaker 3: The engine turns on once, feeds until the accretion disc
Speaker 3: is depleted, and then turns off.
Speaker 2: Well then done.
Speaker 3: To get three distinct bursts, the team had to calculate
Speaker 3: a scenario where the victim actually survives the initial encounter,
Speaker 3: surviving the first bite. Surviving the first bite.
Speaker 2: This completely shifts the mechanics of the whole event. It
Speaker 2: requires an incredibly precise orbital trajectory, doesn't it.
Speaker 3: Oh, precision is staggering. It requires a grazing encounter, grazing intown.
Speaker 3: The researchers modeled a highly elliptical near parabolic orbit. So
Speaker 3: the star's periapsis didn't plunge deep into the roach limit.
Speaker 3: It just barely skimmed the edge of it.
Speaker 2: Think of it like skipping a stone across the surface
Speaker 2: of a pond. Yes, the stone doesn't just plunge straight
Speaker 2: down to the bottom. On the first impact, it hits
Speaker 2: the dense surface of the water, experiences intense drag, loses
Speaker 2: a fraction of its kinetic energy, and bounces back up
Speaker 2: into the air exactly, But because it lost energy, its
Speaker 2: next arc is shorter, bringing it back down for a second,
Speaker 2: more damaging impact.
Speaker 3: That mechanical analogy maps perfectly onto the hydrodynamics of this event.
Speaker 2: So how does that look for the star?
Speaker 3: On the star's first close approach, the tidal sheer forces
Speaker 3: were only strong enough to strip away the outermost layers
Speaker 3: of the star's gaseous.
Speaker 2: Envelope, just skimming off the surface.
Speaker 3: Right The dense stellar core, where the self gravity is strongest,
Speaker 3: remained entirely intact.
Speaker 2: So the black hole shears off a massive chunk of
Speaker 2: hydrogen plasma. Yes, that stolen material falls into the gravitational well,
Speaker 2: circularizes and triggers a violent accretion episode. The first meal,
Speaker 2: the magnetic fields wind up, the relativistic jet punches outward,
Speaker 2: and Fermi's detectors light up with.
Speaker 3: The first burst Boom burst number one.
Speaker 2: But the black hole hasn't destroyed the engine. It has
Speaker 2: only taken a surface layer.
Speaker 3: Precisely after that first grazing pass, the surviving stellar core
Speaker 3: swings back out to the equalcess of its elliptical.
Speaker 2: Orbit, flying back out into space.
Speaker 3: But just like you're skipping stone, the encounter robbed the
Speaker 3: star of critical orbital energy and angular momentum.
Speaker 2: Its slowing down.
Speaker 3: It cannot escape the black hole's gravity. Its orbit is
Speaker 3: decaying rapidly.
Speaker 2: The star is bleeding out, and it's being pulled back
Speaker 2: in for a second pass.
Speaker 3: It is several hours later, dictated purely by Kyplerian orbital mechanics.
Speaker 3: The damaged star swings back down to periapses.
Speaker 2: For round two.
Speaker 3: Because it's orbit decayed, This second pass takes it slightly
Speaker 3: deeper into the Roche limit. Oh no, the tidal forces
Speaker 3: are even stronger this time. A much larger fraction of
Speaker 3: the scar's mass is violently torn.
Speaker 2: Away, so the second massive chunk of plasma hits the
Speaker 2: accretion disk exactly the temperature and magnetic flux spike again.
Speaker 2: The black hole fires a second relativistic and Fermi records
Speaker 2: burst number two, and.
Speaker 3: The star, now critically deformed and lacking the mass to
Speaker 3: maintain its structural integrity at all, swings out one final
Speaker 3: time on a drastically shortened orbit.
Speaker 2: It's barely holding together when it returns for the third pass.
Speaker 3: It finally plunges deeply enough into the roch limit that
Speaker 3: total disruption occurs.
Speaker 2: The final blow.
Speaker 3: The remaining core is entirely shredded. The black hole consumes
Speaker 3: the bulk of the scalar mass in one final catastrophic
Speaker 3: feeding frenzy.
Speaker 2: Generating the third most sustained gamma.
Speaker 3: Ray burst, exactly the big one.
Speaker 2: And then the leftover debris from that final total disruption
Speaker 2: circularizes into a massive, stable accretion disc which slowly drains
Speaker 2: into the black hole over the following weeks.
Speaker 3: Which perfectly explains the months long X ray and obsticle
Speaker 3: after glow we observed.
Speaker 2: So the partial stripping model doesn't just explain the mechanism,
Speaker 2: it explains the exact temporal spacing of the data.
Speaker 3: It's beautiful. The timing of the bursts is a direct
Speaker 3: readout of the st decaying orbital period.
Speaker 2: That's amazing.
Speaker 3: It is a stunning piece of theoretical physics because it
Speaker 3: takes a completely anomalous light curve and maps it flawlessly
Speaker 3: onto the gravitational mechanics of an intermediate mass black hole
Speaker 3: slowly wearing down a main sequence star.
Speaker 2: It's just a brilliant deduction. But you know, theoretical mechanics
Speaker 2: and temporal alignment are really only two legs of the stool.
Speaker 3: True.
Speaker 2: If you want to definitively place a suspect at the
Speaker 2: scene of the crime, you need location data.
Speaker 3: You need to know where it happened exactly.
Speaker 2: Does the physical location of GRB two five zero seven
Speaker 2: zero two B actually support the presence of a wandering
Speaker 2: intermediate mass black hole.
Speaker 3: If we connect this to the bigger picture of galactic architecture,
Speaker 3: the location is perhaps the most compelling piece of evidence.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah. Through rigorous multi wavelength follow up observations, astronomers
Speaker 3: were able to pinpoint the exact coordinates of the burst.
Speaker 2: Okay, where was it?
Speaker 3: The explosion originated approximately five point seven kiloparsex from the
Speaker 3: dynamic center of its host galaxy.
Speaker 2: Okay, five point seven kiloparsex. Let's put that spatial measurement
Speaker 2: into perspective. A single parsec is about three point two
Speaker 2: six light years, right, So five point seven kiloparsex is
Speaker 2: roughly eighteen thousand, five hundred light years away from the
Speaker 2: galactic core.
Speaker 3: It's a massive distance.
Speaker 2: It is if you look at the structure of a
Speaker 2: typical spiral galaxy, the core, the central bulge is an
Speaker 2: incredibly dense, chaotic environment, packed with ancient stars, molecular gas clouds,
Speaker 2: and of course the central super massive black hole.
Speaker 3: And five point seven kiloparsex outward places this event entirely
Speaker 3: outside that central hub.
Speaker 2: It's way out there.
Speaker 3: It places it firmly in the outer galactic disc, or
Speaker 3: even the stellar halo in galactic terms. This is the
Speaker 3: remote countryside, the deep suburbs. The stellar density out there
Speaker 3: is just a fraction of what it is in the core.
Speaker 2: So why does that specific remote location serve as the
Speaker 2: smoking gun for an intermediate mass black hole?
Speaker 3: Because of the dynamics of black hole formation and migration. Okay,
Speaker 3: explosion of this magnitude had occurred directly in the galactic center,
Speaker 3: the immediate logical conclusion would simply be that the central
Speaker 3: supermassive black hole had consumed a.
Speaker 2: Star, because they do that all the time, right.
Speaker 3: The immense gravity of a super massive black hole easily
Speaker 3: powers tidal disruption events.
Speaker 2: Makes sense.
Speaker 3: Conversely, if the burst had occurred within a dense act
Speaker 3: as star forming region in the spiral arms, you could
Speaker 3: potentially argue for a highly anomalous core collapse of a
Speaker 3: massive wolf right star.
Speaker 2: Because that's where the massive short lived stars are born
Speaker 2: and die.
Speaker 3: Exactly, But GRB two five zeros seven to zero two
Speaker 3: b happened in a region where neither of those extreme
Speaker 3: engines should logically exist.
Speaker 2: Ah.
Speaker 3: I see, a supermassive black hole cannot wander eighteen five
Speaker 3: hundred light years from the center of its galaxy without
Speaker 3: taking the entire galactic structure with it.
Speaker 2: It would drag the whole galaxy along.
Speaker 3: You'll ruin everything. And massive wolf ray at stars have
Speaker 3: incredibly short life spans, only a few million years.
Speaker 2: So they don't have time to travel, right.
Speaker 3: They rarely have the time to migrate out into the
Speaker 3: sparse galactic halo before going supernova.
Speaker 2: So you've eliminated the giant black holes and the giant
Speaker 2: stars based purely on zip code.
Speaker 3: Exactly The only object capable of generating a relativistic jet
Speaker 3: of this magnitude while simultaneously possessing the gravitational subtlety to
Speaker 3: partially strip a star over twenty four hours and existing
Speaker 3: in the low density outskirts of.
Speaker 2: A galaxy is an intermediate mass black hole.
Speaker 3: Yes, they are theoretically predicted to inhabit globular clusters, which
Speaker 3: are these dense, ancient spherical collections of stars that orbit
Speaker 3: in the galactic halo. Wow, a wandering imbh inside a
Speaker 3: globular cluster located five point seven kilopar sex from the
Speaker 3: core is the exact profile required to execute this event.
Speaker 2: The location, the weapon, and the timeline all converge on
Speaker 2: a single invisible suspect.
Speaker 3: It's a very tight case.
Speaker 2: It really is. But to maintain the rigor of this discussion,
Speaker 2: we have to look at the pushback from the broader
Speaker 2: astrophysics community.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, science is all about pushback, right, Because as elegant
Speaker 4: as the milli td model is, it is not the
Speaker 4: only theory attempting to explain the twenty four hour stuttering
Speaker 4: of this event.
Speaker 3: No, it's not.
Speaker 2: What are the competing models that other astronomers are throwing
Speaker 2: into the ring.
Speaker 3: Well, the scientific method requires rigorous opposition, and several alternative
Speaker 3: theories have been proposed to explain the anomalous light curve
Speaker 3: without invoking a rare imbh encounter.
Speaker 2: Okay, what's the strongest alternative.
Speaker 3: One of the primary competing models involves a highly magnetized magnetar.
Speaker 2: A magnetar meaning a type of neutron star with a
Speaker 2: magnetic field billions of times stronger than anything on Earth.
Speaker 3: Correct. In this model, the progenitor is still a massive
Speaker 3: star collapse, but the remnant left behind isn't a black hole,
Speaker 3: it's a rapidly spinning magnetar.
Speaker 2: Right, So a giant star dies leaves a super magnetic core.
Speaker 3: Yes, And the theory suggests that as the stellar envelope collapses,
Speaker 3: some of the material has too much angular momentum to
Speaker 3: directly onto the magnetar, forming a fallback accretion disk.
Speaker 2: So instead of a clean jet, the magnetar is basically
Speaker 2: choking on the fallback material exactly.
Speaker 3: The extreme magnetic fields of the magnetar interact violently with
Speaker 3: the clumpy, irregular fallback disc like a jammed engine. Yeah.
Speaker 3: As dense clumps of matter overcome the magnetic centrifugal barrier
Speaker 3: and crash onto the magnetar's surface. They trigger massive magnetic reconnection.
Speaker 2: Events, which are what essentially.
Speaker 3: Essentially universe shaking stellar flares. The three distinct pulses observed
Speaker 3: by FIRMI could theoretically be three exceptionally large clumps of
Speaker 3: fallback material striking the magnetar over a twenty four hour period.
Speaker 2: That's a fascinating alternative because it relies on known existing
Speaker 2: stellar remnants rather than requiring the discovery of a missing IMBH.
Speaker 3: Right, it uses physics we already have confirmed.
Speaker 2: But does the magnetar model fully explain the raw energetics
Speaker 2: of the burst? I mean, this was a massive explosion.
Speaker 3: And that is what the debate gets incredibly heated. I
Speaker 3: bet magnetars are powerful, but their energy budget is strictly
Speaker 3: limited by the rotational kinetic energy and their magnetic field strength.
Speaker 2: They only have so much juice exactly.
Speaker 3: Generating a seven hour continuous gamma ray burst punctuated by
Speaker 3: three massive relativistic pulses pushes the absolute theoretical limits of
Speaker 3: what a magnetar can physically produce before it spins down
Speaker 3: and exhaust its energy.
Speaker 2: It's like running your car at the red line for
Speaker 2: seven hours straight.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Many physicists argue the energy output of two five
Speaker 3: oh seven to two B is simply too high for
Speaker 3: a neutron star remnant to handle without breaking down.
Speaker 2: Okay, so the magnetar is a stretch energetically. There's also
Speaker 2: the processing jet.
Speaker 3: Model, right, Yes, the geometric model.
Speaker 2: This is the idea that the engine itself isn't turning
Speaker 2: on and off, but our perspective of it is shifting.
Speaker 3: Correct. So, in a standard collaps or event, the black
Speaker 3: hole fires a continuous relativistic jet.
Speaker 2: A single solid beam.
Speaker 3: Right. But if the accretion disc is significantly misaligned the
Speaker 3: spin axis of the black hole, a phenomenon called lens
Speaker 3: thiring procession occurs.
Speaker 2: Okay, walk us through that.
Speaker 3: The immense frame dragging effect of the spinning black hole
Speaker 3: actually forces the accretion disc and consequently the jet itself
Speaker 3: to wobble like a dying spinning top.
Speaker 2: Okay, so the black hole is firing a single, continuous
Speaker 2: seven hour beam of energy into space. Yes, But because
Speaker 2: of the wobble, that beam is sweeping across the cosmos
Speaker 2: like a.
Speaker 3: Lighthouse sweeping around in a big circle.
Speaker 2: And the Fermi telescope only registers a burst when that
Speaker 2: narrow beam directly crosses our line of sight.
Speaker 3: The wobble brings the jet into our view, sweeps it away,
Speaker 3: brings it back, and sweeps it away again.
Speaker 2: It's a purely geometric explanation for the three pulses exactly.
Speaker 3: The engine never stopped. It just wasn't pointing at us
Speaker 3: the whole time.
Speaker 2: Dad is a brilliant application of general relativity.
Speaker 3: It's very clever.
Speaker 2: But again, it runs into the duration problem, doesn't it.
Speaker 2: It does a standard collapse or jet exhausts its accretion
Speaker 2: disc in minutes. To have a continuous jet wabble for
Speaker 2: seven hours requires an impossibly massive sustained fuel source.
Speaker 3: Which circles us right back to the necessity of something
Speaker 3: much larger than a standard star.
Speaker 2: It circles us right back to the immense gravitational well
Speaker 2: and extended feeding time of an intermediate mass black hole
Speaker 2: tearing apart a main sequence star.
Speaker 3: It really does. This raises an important question about how
Speaker 3: we observe the universe. Every competing model requires stretching existing
Speaker 3: physics to the absolute breaking point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to force the puzzle pieces to fit, but.
Speaker 3: The Mili tde model, while requiring an elusive IMBH elegantly
Speaker 3: answers the energetics, the timing, and the location without breaking
Speaker 3: the laws of thermodynamics or orbital mechanics.
Speaker 2: It just fits naturally.
Speaker 3: It fits beautifully.
Speaker 2: So what does this all mean for you? The person
Speaker 2: just looking up at the night sky? Thats a big
Speaker 2: deal when we strip away the competing models and the
Speaker 2: complex hydrodynamics, what are the actual stakes of this specific
Speaker 2: July twenty twenty five event.
Speaker 3: If the interpretation presented by these researchers survives the gauntlet
Speaker 3: of peer review and competing theories, the stakes are monumental
Speaker 3: history making really Yes, GRB two five zero seven H
Speaker 3: two B will be recorded as the first time in
Speaker 3: human history that we have conclusively witnessed an intermediate mass
Speaker 3: black hole in the active feeding.
Speaker 2: The first confirmed sighting.
Speaker 3: It moves a purely mathematical concept, the missing link of
Speaker 3: galactic evolution, out of the realm of theoretical equations and
Speaker 3: into verified, observable reality.
Speaker 2: It bridges the evolutionary gap. It finally proves that the
Speaker 2: universe does build black holes in the middleweight division, yes,
Speaker 2: and that they are out there quietly shaping the dynamics
Speaker 2: of the galactic kalo.
Speaker 3: It would easily be categorized as one of the most
Speaker 3: significant astronomical discoveries of the decade, without a doubt, fundamentally
Speaker 3: altering our understanding of black hole demographics and the dangers
Speaker 3: lurking in those globular.
Speaker 2: Clusters, and it serves as a powerful reminder of how
Speaker 2: science actually progresses.
Speaker 3: It's never a straight line.
Speaker 2: No, it's not. The most paradigm shifting discoveries don't usually
Speaker 2: arrive with a neat little bow just confirming what we
Speaker 2: already know.
Speaker 3: Usually it's someone saying, well, that's weird exactly.
Speaker 2: They arrive unannounced disguise as a massive, screaming anomaly that
Speaker 2: completely breaks our existing rules. A seven hour, stuttering explosion
Speaker 2: that nobody can immediately explain is exactly the kind of
Speaker 2: friction that forces astrophysics to evolve.
Speaker 3: It forces us to look into the vast, seemingly empty
Speaker 3: spaces where we assumed and nothing of consequence was happening.
Speaker 2: And realize that the dark is actually heavily populated, very populated,
Speaker 2: which leaves me with a final lingering thought that I
Speaker 2: frankly find a little deeply unsettling oh boy, here we go. Well,
Speaker 2: we have established that an intermediate mass black hole, a
Speaker 2: singularity weighing tens of thousands of times more than our sun,
Speaker 2: can lurk completely undetected in the quiet suburbs of a galaxy.
Speaker 3: Yes it can.
Speaker 2: It emits no light, it makes no sound, and it
Speaker 2: remains totally invisible until a star just happens to wander
Speaker 2: a fraction of an astronomical unit too close.
Speaker 3: Just a silent trap.
Speaker 2: It makes you wonder when you look up at the
Speaker 2: Milky Way tonight, past the dense glowing core and out
Speaker 2: into the sparse, quiet halo of our own galaxy, how
Speaker 2: many of these invisible silent giants are drifting through our
Speaker 2: very own cosmic suburbs right now, just waiting in the dark.
Speaker 3: Well, that is the exact question that will be keeping
Speaker 3: astronomers glued to their telemetry data tonight. The missing monsters
Speaker 3: are finally making themselves known.
Speaker 2: Well, on that awe inspiring, slightly terrifying note, we're going
Speaker 2: to wrap up this exploration of GRB two five zero
Speaker 2: seven zero two B.
Speaker 3: It's been a wild ride.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for joining us on this intellectual
Speaker 2: journey today and for stepping out into the cosmic dark
Speaker 2: to unpack the universe's greatest mysteries with us. Keep looking
Speaker 2: up and we'll catch you next time.
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