Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome back to the Gimmick.
Speaker 1: It's been a little bit, but we are here to
Speaker 1: talk about summer Slam you again. Two episodes Night one
Speaker 1: reviews happening right now night too, So either you watch
Speaker 1: live night two or you can, you know, check out
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Speaker 1: we got on the Gimmick feed.
Speaker 2: I'm the Canadian Nightmare trust now and I'm joined by Alexis.
Speaker 1: Punch s Bob's Yeah, man, that's the best working punch
Speaker 1: of the that's gonna be everyone's finisher in two K
Speaker 1: twenty six.
Speaker 3: You're a striker and.
Speaker 1: They gotta get her and like Shabbata, that's what they
Speaker 1: gotta do on the they gotta.
Speaker 2: Get her and Shabata together.
Speaker 1: But and then I'm joined by Punk's a winner in
Speaker 1: his eyes, David, how's night?
Speaker 4: Oh it's again, it's I'm living the dream. It's eight
Speaker 4: forty four local time.
Speaker 2: And wow, nice and early.
Speaker 4: Yes, a pair perview. It's done and over with and
Speaker 4: I will go to sleep at a normal time.
Speaker 1: And even then, I guess it's because there's two nights, right,
Speaker 1: But I'm always so used to Summer sen being like
Speaker 1: or four point five. But I guess it is the
Speaker 1: good thing about the two nights that probably in total
Speaker 1: will be like six seven hours, but one night's you know,
Speaker 1: an hour and a half or three and a half
Speaker 1: hour and.
Speaker 5: It went to nighttime like pretty much for the main event,
Speaker 5: which was cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, like even it was funny with Jade's entrance.
Speaker 1: They try to turn they did the Undertaker thing where
Speaker 1: they tried to turn off every single light possible, but
Speaker 1: it's like, nah, it's.
Speaker 2: Still day time. But yeah, yeah, we're gonna talk about
Speaker 2: night one.
Speaker 1: We'll probably get a quick because we didn't do a
Speaker 1: predictions cast, we'll do a quick rundown of the predictions
Speaker 1: for night two and probably just quickly talk about the
Speaker 1: scene of promo because that will go in our predictions
Speaker 1: and just what we thought about that. But David, what
Speaker 1: do you think about Summer Slam Night one? We get
Speaker 1: six matches, obviously the rest of the cards Tomorrow made
Speaker 1: event by punkin Guther. Show started with the Bloodline tag.
Speaker 2: But what do you think about the show overall?
Speaker 4: I think that it was bookend by two incredible matches,
Speaker 4: but I do feel like there was a definite lull
Speaker 4: in the middle, and I'm hoping that Night two is
Speaker 4: a little bit more consistent tonal wise. I think the
Speaker 4: first two matches were good, then we fell off. Crowd
Speaker 4: definitely fell off, and then we got hot again with
Speaker 4: the final.
Speaker 1: Do you said two matches that were booked end? Did
Speaker 1: you misspeak? Are you saying jelly roll match?
Speaker 2: Like? Really?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 2: Right? Okay? I was like, no, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think what happened. I think you said book ended. No, No,
Speaker 1: I think you guys are right.
Speaker 3: Matches.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was bookended by two great matches. You can
Speaker 4: even throw one more good match at the front, but
Speaker 4: after that, the entire the middle of it was just
Speaker 4: a lull. So you had a hot start with that
Speaker 4: tag match, amazing starting, you had a great ending. I
Speaker 4: would also say that the the women's tag match was
Speaker 4: pretty damn exciting. But other than that, yeah, no, that
Speaker 4: that crowd was dead. Those matches were not hitting, and
Speaker 4: I'm hoping for a better result with nineteen.
Speaker 2: Stay in School Kids. Stay in School asked what did
Speaker 2: you think about SummerSlam Night one?
Speaker 3: I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 5: Honestly, for me, I thought it was there's some matches
Speaker 5: that exceeded my expectations.
Speaker 3: I felt like.
Speaker 5: And somewhere it was like everyone was saying it was
Speaker 5: gonna be bad, and I liked it more than most.
Speaker 5: Not the Jelly Roll match though, I'll say that, but
Speaker 5: even though, but it was alright, we'll talk about it.
Speaker 5: But yeah, obviously the main event was just fantastic, and
Speaker 5: I thought the ending was like it was where of
Speaker 5: those things are like it was like everyone's not coming,
Speaker 5: but at the same time, it was like did you
Speaker 5: see it coming? So much that it was feeling like
Speaker 5: like a fantasy booking type thing where it's like, oh,
Speaker 5: wouldn't it be awesome if it was all fake and
Speaker 5: he comes out at the end. It was like it
Speaker 5: was getting to that point where it was like I
Speaker 5: was so fifty to fifty on if it was gonna happen.
Speaker 5: But I I overall, I really liked the show, and
Speaker 5: I'm excited for the next night because I feel like
Speaker 5: that one also has a lot of potential to really
Speaker 5: over deliver.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like, obviously we're not gonna get in this
Speaker 1: today because there's a lot to talk about and I
Speaker 1: think people know our feelings of sudden so so I'm
Speaker 1: not bringing up because of the situation.
Speaker 2: Bring U because I supposed said about the fantasy.
Speaker 1: Booking this whole coviand tweet up good and help as
Speaker 1: at Jabbroni's mark without a light that don't know it
Speaker 1: a work when you work a work and work yourself
Speaker 1: into shoot Marx and that's It's one of those things
Speaker 1: where yeah, it's because you talk about so much, is
Speaker 1: it actually gonna happen or is it just us being fans?
Speaker 2: Well we'll get there because we're gonna start with that
Speaker 2: after the overalls.
Speaker 1: But I think there was because you never know when
Speaker 1: it had been a couple of weeks since people have
Speaker 1: been talking about that. But uh yeah, overall, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: repeal all of what these guys said. Where the there's
Speaker 1: for me a match your contender on here? You know
Speaker 1: I won't barely because we're gonna talk about Gunther and punk,
Speaker 1: like I guess somehow exceeding my expectations because I put
Speaker 1: in the Discord'm like, man, we're getting Walter versus see
Speaker 1: him punk but like Walter, not as much. But I
Speaker 1: knew we'll get there, just phenomenal match. It exceeded my
Speaker 1: expectations way more and I had high bar with them.
Speaker 1: I thought, you know, there's maybe a critique or two
Speaker 1: I have, but overall.
Speaker 2: The night felt like for me, it felt like one of.
Speaker 1: The better Saturday Night main events, but like above that
Speaker 1: because I feel like the middle.
Speaker 2: Card, like there's just certain things for Jane Tiffany, Like
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 1: Think they they I don't know, I don't know, Like
Speaker 1: it wasn't as good as I thought it was.
Speaker 2: I just feel like there's a lot of even.
Speaker 1: Even the bloodline stuff, like I think a big issue
Speaker 1: and I do agree with people now when it was
Speaker 1: laid out the way and now seeing it, I think
Speaker 1: having three tags on the show was an issue. I
Speaker 1: think the pacing was off, especially because at first the
Speaker 1: women's tag was being worked differently, but then they eventually
Speaker 1: gone in the same like we're building up to a
Speaker 1: hot tag thing. I thought at first Charlotte and Alex
Speaker 1: were tagging very quickly back and forth.
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, but that thing where I think the
Speaker 2: three tags that was kind of heavy.
Speaker 1: I think the women's tell match was you know about
Speaker 1: where it was so yeah, So I'm I'm definitely I
Speaker 1: think probably the lowest because I didn't enjoy the Bloodline
Speaker 1: tag as much just because I just I really wish
Speaker 1: we got the Roman and Braun one on one match.
Speaker 1: But I don't think anything on here is a fail,
Speaker 1: which is good. I'm in a tough thing where other
Speaker 1: than the main event, nothing's like a four out of five,
Speaker 1: but then nothing's like an all time.
Speaker 2: Are really bad.
Speaker 1: So I think it's just kind of like a middle
Speaker 1: a like kind of fine. Didn't over eXeem my expectations
Speaker 1: for the night, hoping Night two is much better, but yeah,
Speaker 1: this just felt like just you know, at all right tonight,
Speaker 1: Like it felt like a almost like raw Netflix premiere
Speaker 1: where it's like that was just more about the event,
Speaker 1: and that's what this was, especially with someone like Man.
Speaker 1: I said this in the discord. I hated that opening package.
Speaker 1: It's all both the moments and how you react and
Speaker 1: what happens, like, oh my god, like I hate I
Speaker 1: just when I saw Logan Paul frog splash Jeli roll
Speaker 1: through a table, like they just made the spot so
Speaker 1: they could put that on TikTok because somebody will be
Speaker 1: scrolling like Logan Paul did, what did Jelly rolls? I
Speaker 1: hated that stuff, So the old man in me was
Speaker 1: like this isn't my wrestling, but as the night ended strongly,
Speaker 1: we'll talk with the cash and because that has lots
Speaker 1: of variations, but we'll just go there now.
Speaker 2: We got Seampunk first is Goon there? For me, fantastic match.
Speaker 1: It almost would have been I'm giving like a four
Speaker 1: point seventy five, it would have been a five. My
Speaker 1: only issue was I felt like the ending they went
Speaker 1: really quick to Kuther's bleeding, Punk punches him elbow, GTSGT
Speaker 1: is over, Like I what I loved about it is
Speaker 1: this match. This is a Travis match. This is like
Speaker 1: New Japan g One. You guys got as long as
Speaker 1: you want.
Speaker 2: This remind me I can't remember the year.
Speaker 3: Like what the exact match time on it was?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, sure, what was it? Was it twenty eight minutes?
Speaker 3: It was thirty minutes nineteen seconds?
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, g One style g One's thirty one or
Speaker 1: thirty minute time limits. So for me, it didn't have
Speaker 1: the same finish, but reminded me of years ago. But
Speaker 1: Norris Azuki and her Satan of Hash, she had a
Speaker 1: match for the Icy Belt. It ended completely different because
Speaker 1: uh Suzuki just beat the shit a ton of.
Speaker 2: Hashee and he tapped out.
Speaker 1: So I'm not saying the ending is the same, but
Speaker 1: just this like like big brawling group. But also so
Speaker 1: you know, hot baby face that can wrestle and counter
Speaker 1: and it's a smart wrestler, has some high flying moves
Speaker 1: like to me their styles. I would like announce a
Speaker 1: best of five, you know for the number one contender ship.
Speaker 1: I love this encounters like I'm somebody you know I
Speaker 1: named my uh one of my news stars.
Speaker 2: Has heart as the middle name. I'm like punk where
Speaker 2: I love Brehart.
Speaker 1: Matches like this felt like Brett Hart, like WWF title
Speaker 1: Round working.
Speaker 2: With Deesel like this was just right up my alley.
Speaker 2: I loved it.
Speaker 1: And again the two things I love consistencies even though
Speaker 1: it makes them lose, actually did make him lose here,
Speaker 1: like with Sammy. With with Jay, he was I don't
Speaker 1: think he was cocky in the match for the bill up,
Speaker 1: he was cocky gunthars like kerptinit is. He just like
Speaker 1: he could win the match, but he just gets too arrogant.
Speaker 1: Like with Sammy he's like motherfucker her like the wife.
Speaker 1: And with him he's like what's he do?
Speaker 2: And this is not a call?
Speaker 1: And I like in the god, car, he's getting on
Speaker 1: the table like walking around, like what are you doing,
Speaker 1: big guy? Like getting down from there, and then like
Speaker 1: he said, I suppose we got to all in Blade Joe,
Speaker 1: but when he was bleeding, I was like, oh my god.
Speaker 2: But what I loved about it it was like the
Speaker 2: Ilia match and NX where he tapped up. But what
Speaker 2: I loved it wasn't like he's a badass. He says.
Speaker 1: When he got back in the ring, he's telling Punk
Speaker 1: like stop like like don't touch like and Punk just
Speaker 1: beat him up. So it's not that I like that,
Speaker 1: just wish it went on like a little a little longer.
Speaker 1: We got the gut the choked, but just like a
Speaker 1: little maybe one kick of the GTS and another. But
Speaker 1: I loved Guther just being like I'm bleeding, please don't
Speaker 1: touch me.
Speaker 2: And then he lost. He just he lost, and I
Speaker 2: loved it. We'll get the cash in after, But.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I liked affected with Gunther. You have your wrestlers
Speaker 4: where they have their weaknesses. They're like, oh, attack Ray
Speaker 4: Mysterio's knee, or you know other people can the stomach. Now, yeah,
Speaker 4: they had their week. Gunther's weakness is his arrogance.
Speaker 2: When you're watching the surgeries in my arrogance.
Speaker 4: Cost me so many years, But you know, it's one
Speaker 4: of those moments of he's steal a badass. It's just
Speaker 4: once he gets a little bit too arrogant, too cock,
Speaker 4: then that's when he starts making mistakes. And I think
Speaker 4: that is a key to keeping Gunther strong even with
Speaker 4: losing this match and everything that's going to happen in
Speaker 4: the fallout of this is he doesn't like it was
Speaker 4: a good, hard hitting match. Like my notes at the
Speaker 4: end of it just literally say God damn, Like that's
Speaker 4: just how good of a match this was. I'd go
Speaker 4: shy of giving it five stars. My initial rating when
Speaker 4: I wrote it down, I had it at four point
Speaker 4: twenty five or four point five and so like, and
Speaker 4: I think that that's fair for it. I did know
Speaker 4: the cash and was coming out just because again worked
Speaker 4: myself into a shoot for so long that I've been
Speaker 4: talking about it, but also because they lingered on the
Speaker 4: shots of CM punk for so long and then they
Speaker 4: took forever to do the fireworks and everything else, and
Speaker 4: then all right, you got the music playing. I'm like, yep,
Speaker 4: I saw that coming, that they're taking way too long
Speaker 4: with ending this shit, and it's not like you're ending
Speaker 4: it with him being hoisted up or anything like that.
Speaker 4: He's just standing in the ring looking at the championship
Speaker 4: and you're you're trying to stall for time. So at
Speaker 4: that point we.
Speaker 3: Just make though.
Speaker 5: Like when Seth walked out on the crutches with the
Speaker 5: briefcase and they're like, oh, he still has a year
Speaker 5: to cash in.
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, so it's like it's started something like.
Speaker 5: Oh any moment, yeah, and yeah, like when you least
Speaker 5: expect it.
Speaker 3: So if they got me with that, like when he
Speaker 3: first walked out, the.
Speaker 1: Only reason I knew what was happening is because seeing
Speaker 1: Punk is not a knockins and he's literally.
Speaker 5: But I did left because I remember you were saying
Speaker 5: in the scene of match, you were like, well, Seth's
Speaker 5: wearing clothes, so obviously he's.
Speaker 3: Not gonna catch its. Believable.
Speaker 5: You were like, I knew he wasn't catching it because
Speaker 5: he was normal cloth.
Speaker 1: Now retrospective guess, Yeah, when he took out the shirt,
Speaker 1: I thought for sure he's gonna take all the pants trunk.
Speaker 3: Just normal pants. Yeah, doing his stomp.
Speaker 1: Right, because they didn't even have a mini matchic for
Speaker 1: some reason, like Punk like ginger like through the world.
Speaker 2: It was like, I think he I think he just slipped.
Speaker 2: I think his hands were swept, but I think he meant.
Speaker 1: To like try to hit him and miss, but he
Speaker 1: just like But it worked because it looks like a
Speaker 1: guy who.
Speaker 2: Is beat up, right, Yeah, you know, And.
Speaker 1: That's why it's like stuff like we'll talk all the time,
Speaker 1: like with We'll talk about the Roman dive later, But
Speaker 1: there's that moment in the Taker Shawn Michael's match in
Speaker 1: twenty five were Undertaker overshoots and the.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it was Jimmy snook A son who who
Speaker 4: missed him. He's part of.
Speaker 2: The he was part of the what was that they
Speaker 2: were the greasers? What were there?
Speaker 1: It was Dominant, Dood and Cherry, but.
Speaker 4: He was Domino and he missed him on the yeah.
Speaker 2: He never worked again for a yeah wow.
Speaker 1: But the thing is with that when it happened, it's
Speaker 1: a botch, but it made the match better, right, it
Speaker 1: felt more realistic. So the two moments that is when
Speaker 1: Punk like dropped the belt to me, it worked. She's like, oh,
Speaker 1: he's so tired, he can't And early on because I know.
Speaker 1: I think you've just talked about a couple of times,
Speaker 1: like you think the atomic move drops like a stupid
Speaker 1: move because like a DQ.
Speaker 3: But what I liked is clearly am.
Speaker 1: Yeah punk like I missed cue like punk dropped or
Speaker 1: gu went too fast, but like it made that made
Speaker 1: the match better because it looked like a legit, like
Speaker 1: oh my.
Speaker 3: God, it was like a power.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I was so happy Guntha got up right away
Speaker 1: because it like that's like a that's like on debt,
Speaker 1: like playing in the crowd for two minutes because he
Speaker 1: just got right up. But like the way he got dropped,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, like this guy's his
Speaker 1: guy's genitals are gonna be on fire.
Speaker 2: But so yeah, you're right about the clothes.
Speaker 1: I just knew because this is what happened after a
Speaker 1: W that when he did to hear me.
Speaker 2: He's like, Tony want to put the belt?
Speaker 1: I mean I didn't want the belt because he is
Speaker 1: and seaw Michaels insane thing was O two nvince like, hey,
Speaker 1: we're putting the We're putting the strap and sewn Sean's
Speaker 1: like I don't want that, Like I don't want me.
Speaker 2: I don't want to work out shows. I don't want
Speaker 2: to do all the press tour.
Speaker 1: And it's funny because Punk's still doing lots of press,
Speaker 1: but there's just certain things you gotta do unless you're
Speaker 1: you know, or Brock but maybe Punk God, but I
Speaker 1: just thought Punk as many times just said that's why
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago when he cut that I
Speaker 1: need the tele prom like, I don't believe the single
Speaker 1: world you're saying. Man, he just he didn't sell it
Speaker 1: to me because we know he doesn't want that. So like,
Speaker 1: I guess there's always a chance you could drop it
Speaker 1: on a raw Raymustero style on a clash in Paris,
Speaker 1: but I thought no, once he won that for me,
Speaker 1: he was a spoiler of Okay, I just I just
Speaker 1: didn't see them give it, like him or the company
Speaker 1: being like, hey, Punk are gonna run with it, even
Speaker 1: though I'm not like completely against it. I said in
Speaker 1: the discord where this did need some juice because punkin
Speaker 1: Seth I think was like really losing some steam after Mania,
Speaker 1: Like it just it was odd that they were kind
Speaker 1: of waiting around for it. They weren't doing the one
Speaker 1: on one match, and now this gives a little bit more.
Speaker 1: I I wish that so I don't think it's wrong,
Speaker 1: I just do wish we lived in the world where
Speaker 1: imagine Seth Ron's cashing on Cody Rhoads and then Punk
Speaker 1: being the champion Raw that's like a fascinating okay, like
Speaker 1: what's next for both these shows? But now we kind
Speaker 1: of okay, we're gonna get Punk and seth for like
Speaker 1: another three months. Like fuck, that can even be the
Speaker 1: WrestleMania match. At this point, you know, we keep asking
Speaker 1: what are they gonna do Mania. I know everyone's talking
Speaker 1: about Sammy. Maybe it is maybe it's Sammy and Cody,
Speaker 1: I don't know, but like it's gonna be heal Cody
Speaker 1: after tomorrow, he's gonna turn heel sam But like so
Speaker 1: that's where for me, I I wish he didn't cash him.
Speaker 2: But we got this and uh, you know.
Speaker 5: Hopefully Mikey posted a video oh watching watching.
Speaker 3: Yeah though yet their kid, which for weeks.
Speaker 2: This is the other thing for me. I think what
Speaker 2: happened was.
Speaker 1: Because we all thought this was a pro because we'll
Speaker 1: we mean, I suppose were to before you got in
Speaker 1: the room, David there where you know, Dave Meltzer not
Speaker 1: not David here He and John Paul got a lot
Speaker 1: of heat because what happened.
Speaker 2: Was the Saturday nights.
Speaker 1: May then think happened and cess injury right, and so
Speaker 1: for like a day.
Speaker 5: Technically different stories because I think the one that I
Speaker 5: forget who's was too but someone was told before the
Speaker 5: injury they're gonna do an injury angle, I think. And
Speaker 5: then I think it was Dave who's told. But after
Speaker 5: so it happened and someone told him like, oh, it's
Speaker 5: some work. So it was like, well, i'll see, if
Speaker 5: you got told before and then it happens, you have
Speaker 5: like a crazy coincidence or it's true. But if you
Speaker 5: get told after it's a work, it's like, well that
Speaker 5: could just be someone like lying of that.
Speaker 2: Fuck. I sure hope Fightful didn't report that Seth's hurt
Speaker 2: or SRS is.
Speaker 1: Gonna go crazy on his fucking Twitter if he'll be like,
Speaker 1: you're a terrible reporter. He was a great reporter. I
Speaker 1: just like always say, calm down, man, leave Twitter alone.
Speaker 1: But that's the thing where my only change up for
Speaker 1: this would have been is they should have, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: had the tag match with Seth or with Roman J
Speaker 1: booked against Seth and Braun and done the injury thing
Speaker 1: like closer to SummerSlam, because what happened was that came
Speaker 1: out and then when Seth's like, yeah, I'm just waiting
Speaker 1: on MRI, Everyone's like, that's.
Speaker 2: Not how that worked.
Speaker 1: Like we've it's been for like three and a half
Speaker 1: weeks and you haven't got to diagnosi this like, so
Speaker 1: I think that's the only thing I would have changed.
Speaker 1: If they're trying to do the whole workshoot, brother, I
Speaker 1: know they're gonna do the whole people are gonna be
Speaker 1: like they lied to their talent.
Speaker 2: That's not for me to decide.
Speaker 1: If someone if there's a wrestler back there that feels
Speaker 1: hey like and they I suppose.
Speaker 2: To know about this too. But David I were around WCW.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of wrestlers that hated Bischoff and Russo
Speaker 1: doing the whole like work in the Boys, and they
Speaker 1: got lots of resentment. And I'm not gonna I'm not
Speaker 1: a wrestler. So if a wrestler is legitimate about that,
Speaker 1: I get it. If they're not, they just think that's
Speaker 1: the business, I get it. But that's the only thing
Speaker 1: I would have change. Is made it look like Seth
Speaker 1: was busy at SummerSlam and had that la night like
Speaker 1: match on a raw like two weeks before, and then
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, is he easy? We had too much
Speaker 1: time to know that he wasn't actually injured. Now and
Speaker 1: like you said, with Becky even posting that video, we knew, okay,
Speaker 1: you're not posting video of him the crutches, and like
Speaker 1: we knew, we knew it was a word.
Speaker 2: That's my only critique is they should have done it
Speaker 2: closer to SummerSlam.
Speaker 4: If it was a situation where someone's program got messed
Speaker 4: up by this entry angle, I could understand the boys
Speaker 4: being upset. That's the thing that Russo and them used
Speaker 4: to do. They would mess around with someone's angle where
Speaker 4: they would pull them at the line minute. If Punk
Speaker 4: and Gunther have known since this fake injury happened that
Speaker 4: this was the result, this is what we're leading to,
Speaker 4: then it affects no one but them, then I'm okay
Speaker 4: with it because it's been a fun ride as a
Speaker 4: fan speculating is he isn't he?
Speaker 1: Then?
Speaker 4: Yes, Like I'm currently going through an injury right now,
Speaker 4: I'm not wearing my brace just because we're live, but
Speaker 4: like I have a tear in my shoulder that's going
Speaker 4: to need surgery. Like so I'm sitting here thinking about
Speaker 4: myself like oh nope. They're like, well, he hasn't got
Speaker 4: a diagnosis yet. I'm like, yeah, American healthcare system sucks.
Speaker 4: I've had to go through three different scans.
Speaker 1: It's like people will be like Finnbalo or wrestle on
Speaker 1: Summer Slam Sun and then Monday be like I'm giving
Speaker 1: the title up like like we've seen like remember even
Speaker 1: Daniel Brian Danielson said like you were retiring because Vince
Speaker 1: is like you got to retire tonight and then after
Speaker 1: the doctor's like you didn't have to retire, Like why'd
Speaker 1: you do that? Like notorious for rushing people out to
Speaker 1: announce injury.
Speaker 5: And it's also to like that Raw after Sury Knight's
Speaker 5: main event was in Birmingham, Alabama, where like.
Speaker 3: They has like their medical facilities.
Speaker 5: It's like it's like they literally like that's where they
Speaker 5: send people to get like the diagnosis, and Hayman's like, yeah,
Speaker 5: I just don't know, we need more timeime to figures.
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, So like yeah that they probably had to
Speaker 4: go and get the X ray that they knew they
Speaker 4: didn't need, because that's the only way that they would
Speaker 4: have proved the MRI. I'm sitting here going through the
Speaker 4: whole mickle like it could and then the other half,
Speaker 4: and he's like, nah, man, he's worked nice. He's gonna
Speaker 4: throw those crutches away and.
Speaker 5: He's done, like like the live one that was like
Speaker 5: the second match on Raw, and like by the end
Speaker 5: of the show they had like the full diagnosis and.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's out for four six months. Maybe you know,
Speaker 1: like that's the thing, but yeah, And that's where it'll
Speaker 1: be interesting to fall because even s RS is reporting
Speaker 1: that they even work producers of medics when the angle started,
Speaker 1: So like these fucking formats doing their job, Like, oh
Speaker 1: does it hurt.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the worst, man, it really hurts.
Speaker 1: But again, I like if you well, and I could
Speaker 1: see those people being legitimad like the medics are, like
Speaker 1: you're looking at the town.
Speaker 2: Again, that's not for me. It's not my job. I
Speaker 2: don't work that.
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not gonna get the internet tweet about
Speaker 1: how Triple H is evil.
Speaker 2: For booking a fake injurying.
Speaker 1: Like there's other stuff there's other stuff Triple Ah's been
Speaker 1: doing this week that I would be tweeting about. But
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, I let them do their thing
Speaker 1: and watch this for entertainment, but like it's it's gonna be.
Speaker 1: I cannot wait because even Drew a couple of weeks
Speaker 1: agoing maybe he's working too, but remember on Logan Paul,
Speaker 1: he said like, oh, if that's if they're like working us,
Speaker 1: Like that's really shitty and like I'm paraphrase, but he's like,
Speaker 1: that's the lame way to do it.
Speaker 2: So it's gonna be. It's gonna be very interesting. We're
Speaker 2: in this weird wait.
Speaker 3: I also just looked it up with Drew.
Speaker 5: Technically he was the world Have You a Champion for
Speaker 5: thirty seconds longer than seeing funk.
Speaker 4: Oh.
Speaker 2: I hope he has to bring that up at some point,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 4: So now does Triple A show up at the press
Speaker 4: conference and go it's a swerve, bro, Well, that's time.
Speaker 5: I think at the press conference, like they showed the
Speaker 5: graphic of who's there and he wasn't there.
Speaker 1: That's smart, yeah, because that's and that's the thing now
Speaker 1: where you're gonna get some stuff.
Speaker 2: But I will, like I think most of us did.
Speaker 2: But now Harmerson, you gotta.
Speaker 1: Keep you gotta treat the WWE press conference as complete
Speaker 1: k fave because remember that's where Triple H said, like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, Stef's heard it's not looking good.
Speaker 2: He said that the presser where lots of times when
Speaker 2: Triple H is on there.
Speaker 3: He doesn't really know about it, right, you did, right?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: So that that's the only thing is if they're gonna
Speaker 1: do this again in the future, I'm not completely opposed.
Speaker 2: Just like, just tighten a few things up.
Speaker 1: I think this the windows span and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: like because now people will be uh expecting and everything.
Speaker 1: But yeah, and aspects we want to ramp. But what
Speaker 1: did you say it a little bit open? What do
Speaker 1: you feel with the actual match before the cash in there?
Speaker 3: No, yeah, I really love that.
Speaker 5: I have to think I have to watch it to
Speaker 5: give it like the five stars, but like my criteria
Speaker 5: for it of just like having like that that feeling
Speaker 5: there to get it to five stars was definitely there,
Speaker 5: like when you had like gun the bleeding there and
Speaker 5: you know he hits the first GTS and he's still
Speaker 5: standing up on like that.
Speaker 3: That's that's the.
Speaker 5: We got good writing and hype moments in or Yeah.
Speaker 5: I was like, this is the good stuff right here.
Speaker 5: And yeah, it was an awesome match, I said in
Speaker 5: the discord. And it didn't go fully that way, but
Speaker 5: it was close to doing the Aja Snea match where
Speaker 5: they never left the ring. They they almost did it,
Speaker 5: but with what they did outside the ring for the
Speaker 5: bleating spot, I think it was worth it. But yeah,
Speaker 5: just an awesome match, Like I like the whole idea
Speaker 5: of it being like, oh, yes, to dodge the chops
Speaker 5: to win, and he like did it for like the
Speaker 5: first five minutes. He's just gonna destroyed it by these jobs.
Speaker 1: And then we got punk bleed on the chest. That's
Speaker 1: always the best when like someone's bleeding on the chest
Speaker 1: and it's like okay, so but yeah, I have to
Speaker 1: think about it because it might I'll probably rewatch at
Speaker 1: some point. I could get to the five strikes. I
Speaker 1: just thought the ending was little worse. At the same time,
Speaker 1: maybe that works better win.
Speaker 5: Like it was almost like the the idea with the
Speaker 5: blood and he was selling it that way.
Speaker 3: It was almost like like if he got missed it,
Speaker 3: like he was.
Speaker 5: Blinded like by his own blood. It was I kind
Speaker 5: of got why they went to it quickly. Still they
Speaker 5: kept that idea of like it was sort of like
Speaker 5: not like a cheating way, but it was like it
Speaker 5: sort of like protects them in that same way of like,
Speaker 5: oh he was like pretty much blinded in.
Speaker 3: This yeah, last secret and even in a real world
Speaker 3: tech going with.
Speaker 5: Like well he was all bleeding and they're saying he's blinded,
Speaker 5: but he's still like for.
Speaker 3: Like ten more minutes, poor bear It.
Speaker 2: He's like he's blind, he can't see.
Speaker 1: And then they smashed it to like Gunther's eyes wide
Speaker 1: open like staring at you at the viewer.
Speaker 2: I like, oh, they just screwed bear It over. But
Speaker 2: like it almost works the same way.
Speaker 1: Too, like the UFC when someone like gets like punched
Speaker 1: and you can tell the little days and then the
Speaker 1: other punch, like the other fire just goes on them
Speaker 1: and it's just a quick finish. So yeah, I might,
Speaker 1: I might come around, Like I said, I want to
Speaker 1: watch it again, just because I thought they're gonna go
Speaker 1: I was just surprised by that. But yeah, they got
Speaker 1: going through it two gts's and yeah, we're gonna see
Speaker 1: because Punk beat him clean as a sheet. There's no chitnry.
Speaker 1: They didn't do the whole you know, because even though
Speaker 1: seem Punk got to be world champion again, Seth took
Speaker 1: it away. And that's another reason I thought Punk was losing,
Speaker 1: because I felt like Punk was legitimly taking it all
Speaker 1: in because I think he knows, like he ain't ever
Speaker 1: win a world title ever, Like I won't say ever
Speaker 1: again because injuries always happen, and sometimes hey, who go
Speaker 1: through the title one quickly for a couple of weeks, right,
Speaker 1: But yeah, we'll see.
Speaker 2: So what do we got? We got class in Paris.
Speaker 1: We know, we got Stephanie versus No.
Speaker 5: I thought you were naming like the next the plis
Speaker 5: you're talking the next one is clam.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we know, and I assume we're gonna go
Speaker 1: back to five match. I'm just trying to figure out
Speaker 1: when they're gonna do Seth and Punk, But.
Speaker 5: I just think they're supposedly taking time off due to like.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so hopefully, I mean they can build this all
Speaker 4: the way up to WrestleMania and get his his new
Speaker 4: reward for actually showing up to uh the whole cogn
Speaker 4: tributes if they.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why, Like here's the other one brother, but like,
Speaker 1: if I'm gonna be so pissed if they have Punk
Speaker 1: win the Rumble and him and Seth made him a WrestleMania,
Speaker 1: why didn't they like they just held off on it.
Speaker 1: They should have just let the lady Ria you should
Speaker 1: have got last year. And I don't think so. I
Speaker 1: do agree that, I still think. I still think the
Speaker 1: vision is Sammy. They even talked about again tonight, right
Speaker 1: and the Karencross.
Speaker 5: The whole point of the Cross thing was like if
Speaker 5: you lose, you're never gonna be world champion.
Speaker 3: And if you win, I was wrong and You're gonna
Speaker 3: be the world champion.
Speaker 5: And Sammy just like squashed him five minutes and he did,
Speaker 5: We're done.
Speaker 2: So it's like yeah, and then like.
Speaker 3: He could even like maybe he like.
Speaker 5: Challenges like pretty quick say it like a clash in
Speaker 5: Paris and loses and it's like something like that or
Speaker 5: like Sammy or something like that.
Speaker 1: Oh really, so you're you're not You're not on board
Speaker 1: potentially anymore of the I thought you were all boord.
Speaker 2: Sammy win the Rumble.
Speaker 3: I do mean that.
Speaker 5: I mean, like he loses like the title match like
Speaker 5: right away to like win the Rumble later on.
Speaker 1: The only reason I'd say no is because didn't because
Speaker 1: I think I had an issue with this story. Well,
Speaker 1: but then remember, didn't they have if Sammy lose the
Speaker 1: Seth like a couple of months or no is Braun right, No,
Speaker 1: they fucked him up and bron beat him, right, I remember,
Speaker 1: because I was just like, yeah, I yeah, I'm just
Speaker 1: trying to think when they would do Punk because now
Speaker 1: we're gonna get Seth and Cody, which I can't wait.
Speaker 1: That's why I want Seth on SmackDown, and we'll talk
Speaker 1: about Cody a bit later tonight or tomorrow.
Speaker 2: But I'm just trying to think you.
Speaker 1: Got Clash because it's Clash, and then the Crown Jewel
Speaker 1: right after that.
Speaker 3: So and then already Survivor series.
Speaker 1: Which that'll be war Games with ces Crewe and then like,
Speaker 1: in my personal opinion, I would rather than just do
Speaker 1: punkin Seth and Clash and blow it off, like I
Speaker 1: don't want to wait till January to get this, Like
Speaker 1: I already felt like they're wait unless this is the
Speaker 1: fucking Mania match. If this is the MANI match, then
Speaker 1: I guess they can really spread. But if it's not
Speaker 1: the Mania match to me, I would rather do this
Speaker 1: like Hot. I didn't watch the presser, but I guess
Speaker 1: see Punk shows up at the conference like he's all
Speaker 1: or pissed or something like I think all in k
Speaker 1: fabe and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: But I feel like now with with Seth and Punk,
Speaker 3: the next match has to be like a hell in
Speaker 3: a sal or something like that. True, the third match
Speaker 3: for the title.
Speaker 2: Like technically it's a fourth match now.
Speaker 1: Sets up to Yeah, the cash Now, technically that's what's
Speaker 1: gonna happen.
Speaker 3: I did give you points for for Maine events in
Speaker 3: summer slap.
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely Seth Seth waited there. But yeah, that's my opinion.
Speaker 2: I think it.
Speaker 1: I would have a dude to clash and then you
Speaker 1: blow it off. You got Seth and Cody and then
Speaker 1: he got war Games, and then Seth can have a
Speaker 1: hot challenger for Rumble whoever that is. I just I
Speaker 1: don't want to wait around too long because I think
Speaker 1: that happened. And oh well Roman right, like Roman could
Speaker 1: be one of those.
Speaker 5: Roman Seth and like Saudi at the Rumble, that's the
Speaker 5: that's definitely could.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you definitely could. So yeah, lots of lots of
Speaker 1: options there. Yeah, like we said Gunter, He's gonna be
Speaker 1: going for a little bit, and then yeah, all I
Speaker 1: ask for Seth because I've seen a lot of people
Speaker 1: pooh pooing it and like people have been liking brom War.
Speaker 1: I just think I'm still down for him to cut
Speaker 1: his two thousand and three Triple A heel promo is
Speaker 1: just a few and far betweens. And we had like
Speaker 1: that three week stretch of Raw where it was him
Speaker 1: every time. I was like, oh man, you're gonna tire
Speaker 1: out people quick.
Speaker 2: And I like Seth a lot.
Speaker 3: So I'm finally he's gone, like forty five minutes.
Speaker 2: Oh tomorrow, He's gonna do it now.
Speaker 1: He's doing an iron Man promo tomorrow. My my own
Speaker 1: my hope would be.
Speaker 3: IFNK is there, Yeah, he starts doing.
Speaker 2: It right away. Yeah, that's what I do. Kind of
Speaker 2: what they would do is Sena and Cody there.
Speaker 1: But yeah, any other thoughts on the world title scene,
Speaker 1: guth Rowlands, Punk, anything.
Speaker 4: I am excited. I do like Seth Rowlins as much
Speaker 4: as I'm sad that Punk is not carrying the bill.
Speaker 4: I do like Seth Rawlins as champion, either heel or face.
Speaker 4: Seth Rowins as champ is just fun and I mean
Speaker 4: they just came out at the post show and all
Speaker 4: he did was walk around. They pushed papers around, They
Speaker 4: messed with everyone who's on the panel except for Biggie.
Speaker 4: Paul Hayman gave him a little acknowledgement to Biggie and
Speaker 4: was like, yeah, no, we can mess with the ties
Speaker 4: and throw the papers at everyone else. Paul Rosenberg's getting
Speaker 4: stuff thrown at him, Joe Testatory, everything else. It's like,
Speaker 4: we don't leave Big E alone. But they taunted the
Speaker 4: crowd and he just came out, did his little maniacal
Speaker 4: laughed and then they walked off. So I do think
Speaker 4: that Monday is going to be the big fun promo
Speaker 4: from him, and I'm excited to see what he says.
Speaker 1: There you Golkes, Rollin's a six time world champion. I
Speaker 1: was just wondering what he is Tyle Ring was at,
Speaker 1: but there you go. You know, Moxley lost his title
Speaker 1: last month. Another Shield member back on top. Shield always
Speaker 1: fucking run in this organization.
Speaker 2: You know, it's not one of them, is the other one?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's something that's like since the creation
Speaker 5: of the Shield, they have like a combined like fifteen
Speaker 5: type yeahs or something like that or sixteen EASi.
Speaker 1: Like I know people always gonna say what's the most
Speaker 1: important group NWODX like like I'm not gonna argue against that,
Speaker 1: but like I could make a case for SHIELD just
Speaker 1: for like their impact on the entire business, like like
Speaker 1: both like both these two Moxley and aw was a
Speaker 1: huge boost.
Speaker 2: And yeah he's he's one of.
Speaker 1: The ace and so it's kind of crazy how yeah
Speaker 1: that happened, you know.
Speaker 4: I agree with that for the simple fact that nWo
Speaker 4: was created by people who were established stars. They brought
Speaker 4: in smart people and they book them up top too,
Speaker 4: but those main people were there and they stayed there
Speaker 4: where Yeh Seth Rollins had you know, success and ring
Speaker 4: of Honor and things like that, and John Moxley was
Speaker 4: successful in the Independence but there they were built up
Speaker 4: by this and the long term successes they've been riding
Speaker 4: since then, longest reigning champions, John Moxley's success, Oli ready
Speaker 4: w Seth rollins success. Like you can really say that
Speaker 4: they are the most successful and they haven't done with
Speaker 4: the exception of a couple of one offs here and
Speaker 4: they're like the Kurt Angles situation or triple h being
Speaker 4: an honorary member the Shield. But the exception of a
Speaker 4: couple of things, they haven't muddied the water with. You know,
Speaker 4: your Virgil is a part of the nWo.
Speaker 2: Yes there, Curtingle was in the Shield for one night.
Speaker 4: Crdingle was and yeah, you don't have fifteen versions of
Speaker 4: this supergroup. So no, I would definitely say that they
Speaker 4: this should go down as one of the most influential stables.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, there we go. Here's another point, seeing Punk's
Speaker 2: the first ever person to win the w AW World
Speaker 2: title after winning the AW title.
Speaker 4: So there we go at the post show.
Speaker 2: Oh there you go. You know, we've got a lot
Speaker 2: of questions, but this is what we do.
Speaker 1: But no, I all and A'll going through and Punk
Speaker 1: man like again punk whatever. I had some issues that
Speaker 1: happened last time we saw, like all that stuff that
Speaker 1: sucked as a lifer is Punk but bell to Bell
Speaker 1: and problems. Why I still want the best and goother
Speaker 1: is you know all we talked about were always won
Speaker 1: the best. So these two that was by just worry
Speaker 1: that them to together. I was gonna overhype myself, but
Speaker 1: they just delivered it. Man, just like what a what
Speaker 1: a piece of it. And even then too that I
Speaker 1: thought they crowded sometimes. This wasn't like completely their match
Speaker 1: in the middle near the end they got into but
Speaker 1: I felt like they were like they were almost like
Speaker 1: why are they still wrestling? Like that, like why they
Speaker 1: still wrestling? But I was like, no, keep doing the hole.
Speaker 1: It's like counting a sharpshooter into a sharpshoot, like all
Speaker 1: this stuff, Like, yeah, just great stuff. So hopefully they
Speaker 1: run this back again one day, just yeah out saying
Speaker 1: stuff Like I said, I don't know.
Speaker 2: If what's my match year, but it's in that in
Speaker 2: my list on Dropkicked.
Speaker 1: I'm putting it on that list right now to talk
Speaker 1: about when get the end of the year.
Speaker 2: So uh let's see.
Speaker 1: Know now we'll go back to the beginning the show
Speaker 1: and we'll tie it in a bit with Seth scroop
Speaker 1: Yad the Bloodline tag you Jam Romean versus Bronson. Braun
Speaker 1: thought it was fun, had some good spots. I just
Speaker 1: thought it was like I just feel like you we
Speaker 1: could have sat here for thirty minutes and like, but
Speaker 1: we could have been producers on this match, Like I
Speaker 1: feel like we would have we.
Speaker 2: Could have told you what was going to happen.
Speaker 1: Uh some really cool spots with Roman doing the dive,
Speaker 1: who has not done that dive in a long time.
Speaker 2: Like I love the visual. Undertaker was my arrest as
Speaker 2: a kid of like a six foot dude jumping over
Speaker 2: the top rope is.
Speaker 1: Such a cool visual. So I love when Roman did it.
Speaker 1: I love what I Undertaker it. But Roan has done
Speaker 1: well and then Bronson almost fucking eight shit too.
Speaker 2: But sometimes was this was fun?
Speaker 1: But for me, it's like a like a fun like
Speaker 1: three point twenty five, Like this is for the hype.
Speaker 1: This is get the crowd going, people like Roman. Now
Speaker 1: Roman's gonna fight do street fighter and be gone.
Speaker 2: To the fucking rumble. But I thought this was like
Speaker 2: a honestly good way to open the show because people
Speaker 2: like these characters.
Speaker 4: You know, Yeah, it was a fun match. I do
Speaker 4: think that uh Jay's entrance took too long again and
Speaker 4: that's all he's Wow. Man, after watching them TV unrill
Speaker 4: and him talking about you know, being gassed.
Speaker 1: Generation's ultimate, you know what, I take that back. He
Speaker 1: asked me, who could you compare him to? Also, he's
Speaker 1: on that to air, but he's this generation's Ultimate Warrior,
Speaker 1: because Ultimate Warrior that music would hit their people get hyped,
Speaker 1: but he would be gassed when the map wouldn't start,
Speaker 1: and they're like all these people, you.
Speaker 4: Know, yeah, the long and then he doubled it and
Speaker 4: while Broman's just like all right, man whatever, like lots
Speaker 4: of dives, lots of high risk action. I put in
Speaker 4: the discord that I don't want to be the producer
Speaker 4: who had to explain this, like these are the beasts
Speaker 4: that we're doing, look out for this, and Bruce Pritchard's
Speaker 4: is probably like you could have cut this, you could
Speaker 4: have cut that. And then again, like I put in
Speaker 4: the discord, like my note saying Roman taking the spear,
Speaker 4: only for Ja to give a shittier.
Speaker 1: Spear and he's.
Speaker 2: In a match with Roman and brawnis around spears.
Speaker 1: Just because I've never seen this video for sums espos
Speaker 1: Seth Writers video.
Speaker 2: I've never seen this edit of I've never seen this.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I get ready. You're gonna have your
Speaker 2: eight months you know the Romans. Oh my god, that's
Speaker 2: good stuff. Yeah, I go look at that. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: get ready.
Speaker 1: You got keeping us like till Mania the minimum, you know.
Speaker 4: But yeah, so with everyone's saying that Braun should be
Speaker 4: the only one doing the spear, I I don't agree
Speaker 4: with that.
Speaker 3: Leave it.
Speaker 4: Roman should still be able to do it, and you know,
Speaker 4: bust it out with some other things.
Speaker 2: But yeah, j should be the only one not doing
Speaker 2: the spear.
Speaker 4: That should be with the worst spear, the worst spear,
Speaker 4: And I'm just like, ah, I.
Speaker 3: Think Jimmy's is worse. He busted it out once on SmackDown.
Speaker 5: It's just like it was like like pretty much just
Speaker 5: like headbutted in the chest, just like Dove straightforward.
Speaker 4: So yeah, other than that, the match was good. I
Speaker 4: for a moment thought when Bronson Reid was up on
Speaker 4: the top rope and Roman goes and gives them the
Speaker 4: Superman punch. I thought for sure Bronson was gonna fall
Speaker 4: to the outside off the top rope and I was like,
Speaker 4: oh my god, is he about to do like this
Speaker 4: incredible spot? And then no, he just slowly climbs himself
Speaker 4: back down anything.
Speaker 2: And then I just came back from a broken ankle.
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not taking that.
Speaker 5: They always tease like ronson every match, always teases like
Speaker 5: a crazy spot.
Speaker 3: That they like, don't like.
Speaker 5: There was not one where they like cleared the table
Speaker 5: and puts on the table and he went up to
Speaker 5: the to the top turn buckle like he was about
Speaker 5: to like do a tsunami like off the post through
Speaker 5: the NOS table like they always tease like something, and
Speaker 5: they even did like well he did the suicide time.
Speaker 3: I think it was like in the J match, like
Speaker 3: he went to do it.
Speaker 5: And then like stopped like oh, like okay, obviously he's
Speaker 5: not gonna do it, and then.
Speaker 3: This match he actually did it.
Speaker 1: So that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So that again it was fun match, fun spots,
Speaker 4: and I think that it was a great way to
Speaker 4: uh kick off the match. I did like in the
Speaker 4: post press conference, Ja was wearing the shirt instead of
Speaker 4: the OTC it said y TC and just said yeap
Speaker 4: between the Y and the T that I actually like
Speaker 4: that shirt. And then somebody behind them had a sign
Speaker 4: that said uh O T Y and I was like yeah.
Speaker 4: I was like, they're gonna just people are gonna run
Speaker 4: wild with these names for them.
Speaker 2: This is like fetch anytime I shot any anything that's not.
Speaker 3: The O T C.
Speaker 1: I hate the O T C one, the Y t C.
Speaker 1: Stop doing this, the Y T come back.
Speaker 3: I'm the street Fighter with like y TC or something like.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just O t C Alpha V three and
Speaker 4: all the other street Fighter just leave it.
Speaker 2: Just leave. It's a good design chase, the color scheme.
Speaker 4: But what I'm like, man that I was like that
Speaker 4: they're really trying with this combining the O T one stuff,
Speaker 4: trying to make OTC happen, and two combining it with
Speaker 4: the YEAT.
Speaker 2: I'm just like, oh man, yeah, thoughts and say here.
Speaker 3: I enjoyed it.
Speaker 5: I did feel like it was a bit too long,
Speaker 5: like it felt like sometimes they had been working.
Speaker 3: Over j for like ten minutes.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there were some fun spots, obviously all the stuff
Speaker 5: you mentioned with Roman and honestly having Braun and Roman
Speaker 5: in there together was fun and uh yeah, I enjoyed it.
Speaker 5: Definitely got the crowd hype at the start of the show.
Speaker 5: And there was also I don't know if he saw
Speaker 5: that there was like the bron breaker thing where he
Speaker 5: was like limping to the back or something, and then
Speaker 5: I noticed also like, well you can see here he
Speaker 5: has like they like tape and stuff, So I wonder
Speaker 5: what's going on there.
Speaker 1: But well, you know, he'll get a diagnosis in about
Speaker 1: three weeks. You know, no, luckily that he's back out there.
Speaker 1: I took that as like, maybe he's just not gonna
Speaker 1: work a couple of weeks, maybe, like if it's something
Speaker 1: a stinger and stuff.
Speaker 5: So I thought, yeah, maybe just like just like hit
Speaker 5: his knee too, because on the table or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I like Bronson a lot too, but like Braun,
Speaker 1: this is to big Braun, even bigger start, even not
Speaker 1: even before Seth was gone, Like we like to us
Speaker 1: a little bit feel like Braun is already, which I
Speaker 1: think something on purpose, getting that kind of Batista vibe
Speaker 1: of like, oh, I want to see what he does
Speaker 1: and how he spears somebody again, As I said, Braun
Speaker 1: breaker the mote maker, right like, he comes there, just
Speaker 1: does something so.
Speaker 2: And again this match he delivered.
Speaker 1: I like that he got speared through the guard rail
Speaker 1: this time a little payback and uh yeah, I'll be
Speaker 1: curiously like in roman storyline, like do they actually find
Speaker 1: a reason to write him off or does he just disappear?
Speaker 2: Because you would feel.
Speaker 1: Like Roman and Kfe would be like I just took
Speaker 1: up these two boys. Now I'm gonna go after Seth
Speaker 1: right like, and he still we haven't got that moment
Speaker 1: of Roman getting his hands on Paul, like Paul has
Speaker 1: to take a ooh wah and then spear right, So
Speaker 1: you know, I would think that would be so I
Speaker 1: wouldn't mind if like it.
Speaker 3: They did it on the raw after Mania.
Speaker 2: But he got stopped though I thought I thought he
Speaker 2: was about yeah it's got though. No, yeah, I remember.
Speaker 1: It's like what I said with rihan Don when she
Speaker 1: hit the whatever the what the rip Tide?
Speaker 2: Like she touched a couple times, but the rip tie
Speaker 2: was the big bop. That's what has to happen.
Speaker 1: And uh, yeah, I would like it if he came
Speaker 1: out on raw.
Speaker 2: People would hate this.
Speaker 1: But if he challenged Seth and then they like said, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're doing the title next night, and then they just
Speaker 1: destroyed Roman, that's why he's gone for all because if
Speaker 1: Roman just pimps off it make why do I care
Speaker 1: what this guy's doing now? Like he should be going on,
Speaker 1: I'm after Seth, you screwed me over, he took my guy.
Speaker 2: You got a title. I'm gonna take that from you.
Speaker 1: But no, if he's just like whatever, I like, just like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, find him in a parking lot. At
Speaker 1: least you know, at least they can do who done it,
Speaker 1: and even if it was just Seth or even have
Speaker 1: Seth just come out like the Becky thing and just
Speaker 1: say yeah, I took him out. I hate Roman. I
Speaker 1: don't want him around. He's not getting shot this title ever.
Speaker 1: Neither is Punk and you know, like I just hope
Speaker 1: it's not. Roman just goes away for three months and
Speaker 1: then we don't ask anything. But you know, maybe so
Speaker 1: we want cross chance directed at during the Summsen Press show.
Speaker 1: You know that's not the next match, but let's talk
Speaker 1: about that, so, you know what, credit to him. This
Speaker 1: is the fastest I think I've ever seen carrying a
Speaker 1: cross move. Still had a reduced like kind of Hashi
Speaker 1: like in twenty twenty two type of speed, but it's
Speaker 1: the fastest and I think this was the best match
Speaker 1: that I've had. That's not saying anything again. This is
Speaker 1: to be a situation where it's tough because match quality.
Speaker 1: This is like when I look back at SummerSlam, Like
Speaker 1: look at SummerSlam two thousand and two, that's like a
Speaker 1: GM mode. Every match is a five star force like classic,
Speaker 1: and here we got carrying a cross and Sammy. They
Speaker 1: like trying their best to have like maybe a three
Speaker 1: point twenty five or a three point five and it's
Speaker 1: not even that high for I just think they're trying right,
Speaker 1: So just feel like I get it's two nights, but
Speaker 1: at SummerSlam, it's just like I feel like there's so
Speaker 1: many other towns that could be here.
Speaker 2: But like we talked about, wherever you want to say,
Speaker 2: Crosses over right, people.
Speaker 5: Chance to say if you look at like the comment
Speaker 5: sections on on YouTube and Instagram, people are saying like
Speaker 5: Sammy is bearing him and should be the next top
Speaker 5: baby face, he should be beating Sina in.
Speaker 3: The main event, Like oh my god, Like those.
Speaker 5: Are like the average like comments are like they're like
Speaker 5: disgusted why Crosses is not like in the main event
Speaker 5: of scene in everything.
Speaker 1: And that's why I cannot go the other route because
Speaker 1: I was there back in the day in twenty whatever
Speaker 1: it was twenty fourteen when that was don't no no
Speaker 1: one callupt this out. I'm not saying caring across next
Speaker 1: Daniel Bryant, but I'm saying that was the same way
Speaker 1: if they did have no intentions of doing anything with them,
Speaker 1: but people got behind them and the crowded So I
Speaker 1: can't look at them and say you shouldn't do anything across.
Speaker 2: I've still said before, if they don't resign them, I
Speaker 2: think that's a mistake.
Speaker 1: I've said before. Make them a take tin guy, make
Speaker 1: them a mid card guy. Do something with him, make
Speaker 1: them like Piper's pitch. Just have him to do a
Speaker 1: fucking talk show Like Piper half the time didn't even wrestle.
Speaker 2: He just talked and got people over.
Speaker 1: Like Karen Cross is an ass and people like to
Speaker 1: see him, but I don't know how much we want
Speaker 1: to see him wrestle. So that's it's a tough thing.
Speaker 1: But this I said was their best of the trilogy.
Speaker 1: I guess for me, you know, so, yeah it was
Speaker 1: a very.
Speaker 2: World Yeah yeah, like it's Red and Moons.
Speaker 5: I think what these matches, it's like they've all had
Speaker 5: like literally the exact same layout until then they just
Speaker 5: get like slightly longer each time, like they all like
Speaker 5: they literally have if you watch the start of all
Speaker 5: through of these matches, the first five minutes of them,
Speaker 5: like if you put them side by side, I think
Speaker 5: they would literally be exactly the same.
Speaker 3: Like it's they do like a couple moves. He says,
Speaker 3: like oh say it's Sammy. Say Sammy throws him to
Speaker 3: the outside.
Speaker 5: He does like the like the I'll say moon salt,
Speaker 5: they like, go to the outside?
Speaker 3: Does it back in?
Speaker 5: Scarlet looks for the pipe and like the first time
Speaker 5: didn't give it to him, the second time did this
Speaker 5: time gave it and it didn't work. Like it's literally
Speaker 5: the start of these matches, and like the overall layout
Speaker 5: of them have all been literally exactly the same, just
Speaker 5: going like slightly longer or slightly different.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did like when when Scarlett through the pipe
Speaker 1: of the rain, the crowd is like, oh, even though
Speaker 1: because I think half of them are done and thought
Speaker 1: like a Scarlet thought, no, it's a story, which I like,
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, and improve your bad right by the
Speaker 1: crowd was.
Speaker 2: Like, oh my god, Send's gonna this new sexy manager.
Speaker 2: It's like, no, I'll calm calm down, like watch some wrestling.
Speaker 2: You know that.
Speaker 4: That was really the only time that the crowd really
Speaker 4: got inchoed in this match. And I even have my nose,
Speaker 4: I go. The biggest hit in this entire match was
Speaker 4: the low blow comment that Cole hit on Wade barred
Speaker 4: about never being champion like that that was the biggest
Speaker 4: moment of this match, and I'm like the crowd was.
Speaker 4: They were dead. It was a paint by numbers match.
Speaker 4: It seemed like it was going to have a very
Speaker 4: predictable ending. I felt Sam was going over and yeah,
Speaker 4: the crowd's chanting for a Canon Cross. I don't feel
Speaker 4: like this is one of those situations of a Daniel
Speaker 4: Bryan or even a Zach Ryder where someone got over
Speaker 4: organically and so they are just punishing them. But I
Speaker 4: do think that they are missing some sort of opportunity.
Speaker 4: To your point, Yeah, have him just do backstay segments.
Speaker 4: Have him be the guy who jumps somebody but never
Speaker 4: gets his comeupp ins and then he wrestles once every
Speaker 4: mon or every other month and has the big match
Speaker 4: and things like that. I mean, he can go. He
Speaker 4: did it in n XT. But what they're doing with
Speaker 4: him right now just it's weird. And none of nothing
Speaker 4: with this is just okay, we're we're pulling this dead
Speaker 4: dog long. Let's just call it a day.
Speaker 1: They couldn't do right now because I think they're happy
Speaker 1: with all this Peers. But you know what, he'd be
Speaker 1: like a perfect general manager because he could be a
Speaker 1: heel general manager and then whenever you need to blow off,
Speaker 1: he could wrestle the talent, you know, like they had
Speaker 1: Airic Bischoff wrestling all the time and he couldn't fucking wrestle.
Speaker 1: Karen Cross can wrestle better than Bischof. So it's like
Speaker 1: Cross could be like a perfect authority figure type of
Speaker 1: character in that sort of way, like especially heel bayface whatever.
Speaker 1: But you know, and again I don't. He can't, Like
Speaker 1: I get it, he's over. That man cannot go to AW.
Speaker 2: That man like like he has.
Speaker 3: Not built Seanross I've seen. I've seen in like Mox
Speaker 3: they got.
Speaker 5: So you know, they have thirty minute blood sport matches
Speaker 5: in the main event in Dynamite.
Speaker 1: Because the thing is whatever people feel about AW in
Speaker 1: the creative I would say nine percent that wrestler per
Speaker 1: that roster.
Speaker 2: Maybe I'll say eighty five because I can't account for everybody.
Speaker 2: R O H.
Speaker 1: I would actually take r H just AW. If you'l
Speaker 1: wrestle on AW, I'll say ninety percent. Those people in
Speaker 1: their sleep can give you like a four star if
Speaker 1: they give them the time and the right opponent, they
Speaker 1: give you a four star. Cross I don't think he
Speaker 1: can do that unless you put them with Kenny baygot Omega, Like,
Speaker 1: if that's not me, that's the.
Speaker 5: Meme of your saying like, oh it worked in NXT
Speaker 5: with three people say it's like they had to put
Speaker 5: him with the NXT Avengers to get Adam Cole Carrie
Speaker 5: CrossFit's always like, oh, this is his best match. It's
Speaker 5: a five way with him and the other Gargando Adam
Speaker 5: Gold he done.
Speaker 3: In Calorayah, that's like, oh this is this is a
Speaker 3: nice three point five from carry across right here.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Like, honestly, if he does, if they don't resign them
Speaker 1: to me, I think that is kay know, it is
Speaker 1: weird for someone like again they want people to get
Speaker 1: over and he's getting over, So to me, it is weird.
Speaker 2: We'll find out. I think he is resigned to me.
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any way he's beating Sam's INNA
Speaker 1: and getting a SummerSlam match. If they're like, eh, nah,
Speaker 1: you're I think we just had We just discussed the
Speaker 1: whole thing where they were trying to make us think
Speaker 1: Seth was actually injured. Karen Cross being like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: can't talk about that right now, doesn't mean shit.
Speaker 2: In my opinion, I think he's signed.
Speaker 1: I think they're just trying to play it up because
Speaker 1: that gets more over, right if they if they smartly
Speaker 1: play it up. The WW doesn't want him, but they
Speaker 1: like resign him grudgely. That just helps Karen Cross is
Speaker 1: like an out like that was. I'm not gonna say
Speaker 1: it's get punk.
Speaker 2: I hate that. I've talked about him comparing to Brian
Speaker 2: and Punk.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but punkin twenty eleven when the half of the
Speaker 1: contract that got him mega over because it was like,
Speaker 1: why aren't you signing this white hot town?
Speaker 2: Right? Cross is nowhere near that. But to me, it.
Speaker 1: Will be really weird and I'll have I can't wait
Speaker 1: for that interview that he would do. But even then
Speaker 1: I think he would just end up in TENA, which
Speaker 1: is weird because half the time they work with But
Speaker 1: I do think they would probably be the best.
Speaker 2: Place for Karen Cross if he does. Yeah, that's.
Speaker 1: He showed up next time? Jack, Yeah, what was let's
Speaker 1: see about this? So seth Tite said seth Rons was
Speaker 1: playing chess.
Speaker 2: Well, everyone else is playing checkers.
Speaker 1: Right, sure, man, and he comes out, goes through. None
Speaker 1: of it takes a really way championship. My hat's off,
Speaker 1: sept rollands, that's the smart way to do business. Not
Speaker 1: thrilled about the bogus medical reports, but we'll deal with them.
Speaker 2: Know, Oh, okay, he's fame.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's why because the headline tweet words bro because
Speaker 1: the headline tweet was triple not thrilled about bogus medical reports, Like,
Speaker 1: oh what is this? No, he's just in k fame Okay,
Speaker 1: cool hunter, that's good because this is it's conference.
Speaker 3: It's like just like after yeah.
Speaker 5: Like it's like Biggie and like Sam Roberts or something.
Speaker 4: It's it's Biggie Joe Testatory and Rosenberg.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, I hope I hope the same way the aw
Speaker 1: pressors have been getting good again because Tony's out scared
Speaker 1: for his life apparently. I hope some fucking reporters has
Speaker 1: the cajony. It's not like, don't make it a gotch,
Speaker 1: you just be like because they break k thing all time. Literally,
Speaker 1: when Johnston had turned heel, they're like, yeah, we call
Speaker 1: them up on Sunday made this, but like just asking
Speaker 1: like hey, what, like why did you decide to do
Speaker 1: it this way? And did you worry about making you know,
Speaker 1: any bad guys with the towel, right, and that's.
Speaker 4: Esque, especially with this documentary just releasing, Like you've already
Speaker 4: blown KFA about the water, so now for you to
Speaker 4: come back with this, oh, this bogus medical Like, dude,
Speaker 4: we all have just seen on Netflix the inner workings,
Speaker 4: like just roll into it, like, yeah, you know, we
Speaker 4: we had this plan. We were going to see how
Speaker 4: many people we could you know, go over with this
Speaker 4: and make it work and keep everyone guessing on the
Speaker 4: is he or isn't he? And here that's how we
Speaker 4: arrived here. Cool, that makes sense. You wanted to keep
Speaker 4: the people guessing, wanted to give us entry.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you can literally just say because like I
Speaker 1: know t all time hates to be like oh you know,
Speaker 1: like people bring.
Speaker 2: Us all the time.
Speaker 1: The Blacks of Blissing right, the reports were, Hey, the
Speaker 1: deal came together like the night before and then when
Speaker 1: she came to Rumble, Corey Grays was like, oh, dirt sheets,
Speaker 1: you're all wrong. And then when Alexa Bliss got interviewed,
Speaker 1: she was like, yeah, like what the dirt sheet said,
Speaker 1: Like that's how it went down. So like, I know
Speaker 1: trib like I think he sometimes really hates and the
Speaker 1: dirt Sheets gets right, But just say, hey, people leak
Speaker 1: shit all the time. That's why we had to If
Speaker 1: that's what you should say, we wouldn't have to work
Speaker 1: our town if someone's not talking to Daver Sean, because
Speaker 1: we know people talk to David Sean. So that's all
Speaker 1: I gotta say is we want to keep it a
Speaker 1: secret if you don't talk as much. I could do that,
Speaker 1: but I can't, So that's why we did it. So
Speaker 1: blame your other town. Don't blame me, you know, that's
Speaker 1: what I would say. And guess what they're not gonna
Speaker 1: say that, because you're gonna paid multi, you know, hundreds
Speaker 1: of thousand.
Speaker 2: Dollars by the guy.
Speaker 1: There's like, well that sucks, and then they'll go back
Speaker 1: to work, you know, like but we'll see what the
Speaker 1: press or happens tomorrow, uh, and then go back into
Speaker 1: actual order.
Speaker 2: We had the women tag to match.
Speaker 1: I thought this was tons of fun. I'll you know,
Speaker 1: I was right about the set thing, completely wrong about this.
Speaker 1: I thought for sure rock Stale were.
Speaker 3: Telling you like lou is not coing, like that's a
Speaker 3: real injury.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I thought no, No, Here's what I did
Speaker 1: think she was injured. I just still thought they would
Speaker 1: keep the title just to do that tension of when
Speaker 1: she got back.
Speaker 2: But then I guess she's gone for a long long time.
Speaker 1: They just feel like they have no idea what their
Speaker 1: plans are going to be at that point, which is
Speaker 1: not a bad thing. She got injured, I get it,
Speaker 1: But the match itself was good, and they do they've
Speaker 1: caught fire. It's not the same heat, but it feels
Speaker 1: very similar to Dale understands like the Team Hell Know,
Speaker 1: Like Daniel Brian.
Speaker 3: Listen to U two.
Speaker 5: I think it was like it was one of like
Speaker 5: a Nikki Bella interview, and she was saying, like she
Speaker 5: told Charlotte and Alexa that reminded them of Team hell
Speaker 5: knowing that like, yeah, that's what like we're doing pretty.
Speaker 2: Much perfect and that there's nothing like Team Hell.
Speaker 1: No. That's one of the reasons why Daniel Brian became
Speaker 1: a World champion, because that act got so over and
Speaker 1: people fell in love with that care And I think
Speaker 1: this where I could go in for a while, because
Speaker 1: Charlott's actually getting fucking cheered and she said that article
Speaker 1: she didn't really want to be a heal anymore for
Speaker 1: a while. People like this dynamic. I think you could
Speaker 1: run with us for a while. I would note I
Speaker 1: would love for this to run with the WrestleMania and
Speaker 1: have like a legit great woman's team. So when they
Speaker 1: lose it means something. Not She's like, ah, we're gonna
Speaker 1: get it to else a Donna alba fire for a
Speaker 1: month and then lose it back like the run.
Speaker 3: Against like Bailey and be to do like.
Speaker 2: Home pretty much.
Speaker 1: Yeah, swap Alexa for Mona, Like, yeah, this works like
Speaker 1: I would. I would not be posed barring injury because
Speaker 1: I really don't see Alexa Bliss like sorry, triple h.
Speaker 1: He botched the Wyat six. That's it to me. It's
Speaker 1: not a dead act, but it's not the main act
Speaker 1: could have been.
Speaker 4: It's not recovering from where is it now has a ceiling?
Speaker 1: Yeah, and again some people got injured, so I get
Speaker 1: that not all his fault, right, but just like what
Speaker 1: happened the fall up didn't go that route.
Speaker 2: And Charlotte's not She's like going for a real title
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 1: You know, we'll talk about Tiffy later and like the
Speaker 1: other stuff like tomorrow, but like that's not in the books.
Speaker 2: That's what it's like. If these girls are not doing.
Speaker 1: These women are not doing anything. People like the gimmick.
Speaker 1: People are enjoying the short character in this fashion. Just
Speaker 1: make them a dominant tag team. Make them so like
Speaker 1: when this it matters. That's always been the knockats the
Speaker 1: woman's tag titles. They rarely get the respect or the
Speaker 1: time given. If you have talked to your talent like
Speaker 1: these like these women have them for this until Mania,
Speaker 1: then then what I wanted at Mania is I don't
Speaker 1: want Charlotte and Alexa versus six other teams and a
Speaker 1: fucking brawl.
Speaker 4: For all, Like no, find them crazy six pack challenge.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like, find some whether it's NXT or team on
Speaker 1: the main roster. You build that challenge and it's like
Speaker 1: a main, big time tag team match.
Speaker 4: You know, I would love since you just mentioned that,
Speaker 4: I would love for them to do something with NXT
Speaker 4: for someone with an NXC to earn a shot. If
Speaker 4: they're going to carry this to WrestleMania earn their shot,
Speaker 4: then that is a perfect time to like put an
Speaker 4: XT on the main stage.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I was gonna say, yeah, No, I really enjoyed
Speaker 3: this match.
Speaker 5: I think at the start, the crowd was kind of
Speaker 5: dead just because they were coming off all the Roman
Speaker 5: and h type and stuff. But I think by the
Speaker 5: end they really got into it, especially with some of
Speaker 5: the nearful Like after after Alexa.
Speaker 3: Hit the what did a picture called the w M
Speaker 3: D Bunch.
Speaker 5: Instant knocked out Charlotte, I was like, Oh, it's like, oh,
Speaker 5: she hit Charlotte.
Speaker 3: Now Charlotte's gonna be mad, and like, because I thought
Speaker 3: the second that's.
Speaker 5: Like for the story, it's like okay, like like Charlotte
Speaker 5: moved past and showed it's not the same as before,
Speaker 5: like she could forgive immediately and help them with But
Speaker 5: like that near fall where she got like Alexa breaks
Speaker 5: up the fall and Charlotte the very second, the crowd
Speaker 5: got really into it by the end, And Yeah, I
Speaker 5: really like the s match, And like you're saying, yeah,
Speaker 5: I feel like this could be like the Women's tag
Speaker 5: title run, Like if they really.
Speaker 2: Wanted Babyface version like this.
Speaker 3: Off, you can do it now. Like I feel like
Speaker 3: teams just like OFF.
Speaker 5: You can rematch this on like a RAH and they'll
Speaker 5: get plenty more time. You can do this like a
Speaker 5: twenty minute match on on a raw. You could do honestly,
Speaker 5: the one everyone talks about that you that everyone wants
Speaker 5: to see is like them against Ria and EO at
Speaker 5: some point.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you can do that, honestly.
Speaker 5: Yeah Warriors, that's like a team and they like beat
Speaker 5: the judgment day like with honestly aj pinn Dom but
Speaker 5: technically they beat that team.
Speaker 3: So that could be like a future Yeah, that could
Speaker 3: be like our next Challengers.
Speaker 1: And that's the thing where it's just like to me, like,
Speaker 1: and nobody's never been this company other than a few
Speaker 1: times NXT, but you have the women talent, Like that's
Speaker 1: what I love and they're nowhere that way now.
Speaker 3: But the first your.
Speaker 5: First time the tag titles have ever made a Summer
Speaker 5: Slam card.
Speaker 1: There, Well yeah with those two years or something like that,
Speaker 1: two nights though, right, So that is a little bit
Speaker 1: of a like that helps with it. But that's the thing,
Speaker 1: like in the first two years of AW the tag
Speaker 1: titles could made it in a paper and you wouldn't
Speaker 1: flinking on they were that important, right, And I'm not
Speaker 1: saying w has to get to that state, but I'd
Speaker 1: like it, like they could main event like a beat
Speaker 1: your Pay re view because you have the women's.
Speaker 5: Talent, like like my theory of real event anything in Australia,
Speaker 5: Like yeah you do that, Yeah against Alexa and Charlotte
Speaker 5: as like the main event of Crown Jewel and like
Speaker 5: that could be the main event over a Cody versus
Speaker 5: Seth Max.
Speaker 2: You know that's going on last for sure.
Speaker 1: Brother, I'm telling you that they're going on They're going
Speaker 1: on last for sure.
Speaker 2: They're not they're not letting the tag but like they're working.
Speaker 3: They see that the edge and they're like, we're doing
Speaker 3: NW a forty five minutes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Sad Marks is like check on this match that
Speaker 2: we did a couple of months ago, you know.
Speaker 1: But but yeah, they just have the talent that they
Speaker 1: can make those women titles big deals right now, Like
Speaker 1: no more just throwing together teams. Don't be fucking wasting
Speaker 1: time with Italian Maxine Topre, like just let Natalia be
Speaker 1: her fucking natty gimmick and move on, you know.
Speaker 2: But uh yeah with.
Speaker 5: The with the NXT team as well, I feel like
Speaker 5: all the recent women's tag team champions have defended on
Speaker 5: NXT at least once in their reign, like Bianca and
Speaker 5: Jay did it, or Bianca Jay did but they had
Speaker 5: a match. It wasn't for the titles, I think, but
Speaker 5: they had a match. Bianca and Naomi had it, the
Speaker 5: Unholy Union had it. So I feel like at some
Speaker 5: point they're definitely gonna do an NXT match, and those
Speaker 5: are usually like on like an NXT like TV special,
Speaker 5: like that's like the main event.
Speaker 3: They've done it a few times.
Speaker 2: To fucking Zari and Soul. That's what I want make them.
Speaker 3: It definitely happens, especially since they were in the Evolution.
Speaker 1: Match back in main event a fucking NXT show, Like
Speaker 1: that's what I mean, Like that should main event an
Speaker 1: XT show. No, Like the titles are as big as
Speaker 1: you book them, you know. And that's where it's like
Speaker 1: Charlotte is the rumor. She's getting paid tons of money,
Speaker 1: so it's like Maker made it and people again we
Speaker 1: talk about the rum last year. Bliss is always getting
Speaker 1: these fucking pall ups. People love her, so it's like,
Speaker 1: you have these are the perfect two people to like
Speaker 1: breathe some life in there, so well see. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought the match was It was a good match too,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure they, like you said on Rob run
Speaker 1: this back, and that's completely fine with me, even if
Speaker 1: they use like a gimmick for it, like whatever, cool,
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens and see it happens with Live
Speaker 1: when she comes back. I guess just kind of play
Speaker 1: it like you lost my take to will go that
Speaker 1: route and see what happens. I think the judgment day
Speaker 1: is just like in like idle mode until she gets back, unfortunately.
Speaker 5: And uh, I mean there's like some like very slight
Speaker 5: rumors of maybe something with Live, like with like this
Speaker 5: domin Aj thing, there's like this one person who has
Speaker 5: been like teasing it's like, oh, something with Lives coming,
Speaker 5: but it's like I don't really believe it.
Speaker 1: But if she's back, I have no idea why they
Speaker 1: made them the titles then tonight.
Speaker 2: That would be very odd to me. But yeah, I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 1: They got a lot to same thing with Dom right,
Speaker 1: he was getting over his face and they kind of
Speaker 1: like cooled him down for a little bit.
Speaker 2: So we'll have to see. But let's see. Triple A says,
Speaker 2: you ain't seen nothing yet, Wait till tomorrow. Don't there.
Speaker 2: You know they're small, we'll get there. We'll get there.
Speaker 2: When we talk about Cody Probe.
Speaker 4: If I hear Fiend start playing, I'm turning the TV off.
Speaker 5: What I would love is like I saw someone like
Speaker 5: fantasy book this like I forgot, sir some of the
Speaker 5: things like do like a fiend fake out, like just
Speaker 5: like playing the music.
Speaker 3: And like he doesn't come out, but like just like
Speaker 3: just the Droll people.
Speaker 4: Now, they probably have to pay too much money for that.
Speaker 4: At they're not trying to give Travis Scott money like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so we taught do we only have the
Speaker 2: ones title in the jy Roll match?
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Tiffy versus Jaden, then Logan Paul versus jelly
Speaker 4: Roll was after that.
Speaker 2: Okay, we'll talk about joey Roll. I don't know much.
Speaker 1: Just say here, Gabe to me what I says. At
Speaker 1: one moment, they did some high spots, but they worked
Speaker 1: a very like raw guest host, like when they had
Speaker 1: jelly Roll like get fired up by Randy Warren and
Speaker 1: he walks in, oh shit, Like.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh that's where it's like I I
Speaker 2: checked out that, like and I didn't think i'd like
Speaker 2: the match, but yeah, hey good for jolly Roll lost
Speaker 2: all weight. I don't know. I just said.
Speaker 1: I think it's tough now because we get celebrities and wrestling.
Speaker 1: But now we're at a situation where you get like
Speaker 1: people like Bad Bunny and Logan Paul where they go
Speaker 1: out and like and even Stephen Miller A and w
Speaker 1: where they're like getting in shape and they're all muscle
Speaker 1: and they look like, oh okay, at least they can
Speaker 1: be comparable with Jelly Roll. It's like he's never worked
Speaker 1: a match. He's like, he doesn't look like a big
Speaker 1: physical guy.
Speaker 4: Like it's just he he limped out on the post show,
Speaker 4: like you could tell my man is hurting.
Speaker 3: And you could tell you he was bracing for that.
Speaker 4: For that, oh he braced a minute he got.
Speaker 5: It looks like I like that these tables, like the
Speaker 5: like super reinforced tables have like some wood like on
Speaker 5: the side, so like when they break, they just like
Speaker 5: explode everyone.
Speaker 1: And for me, it's just like when you do this
Speaker 1: usually put them up against like the Miss, where it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: the Miss always looks weak, you know.
Speaker 2: But when he like walked to the Drew, I'm like.
Speaker 5: Like, I know what they think, Like I don't think
Speaker 5: Drew like pretty much the only move I think he
Speaker 5: like took her sold from Jelly Roll was like the black.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I just like I walk up and
Speaker 1: just like I'm already checked out because like I can't
Speaker 1: like there's no way, like this is like we're I know,
Speaker 1: we're already in a fake world, but there's just something
Speaker 1: like a special disbelief. But you know, crowd liked enough,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure they're happy with all the TikTok videos
Speaker 1: they made.
Speaker 2: So that's all I say. And I'll say the right
Speaker 2: people went over there, you go for ones. I'm happy
Speaker 2: Logan Paul won.
Speaker 3: And I predicted Randy and Jelly Roll.
Speaker 5: But by the time the show is on, it's like, actually, yeah,
Speaker 5: the heels play win here.
Speaker 2: Change Yeah you said the discord? Yeah so yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: David anything take.
Speaker 4: Nothing else but that again. But my notes are as follows.
Speaker 4: This is actually a match in twenty twenty five. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I get this star power, but Jelly Roll looks way
Speaker 4: too sluggish. Logan Paul hits his signature punch, but he
Speaker 4: hits it to the gut instead of the face. You
Speaker 4: can see Jelly Roll break for the splash, and I
Speaker 4: go Logan Paul beats Jelly Roll again. Sentence I'm saying
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty five while watching wrestling.
Speaker 1: Well saying that and just even though like you got cash,
Speaker 1: and even just saying like Triple H books seemed punk
Speaker 1: to win a world titles a fucking fascinating sentence.
Speaker 2: You would tell me ten years and it's like not a.
Speaker 1: Chance, but uh oh yeah, and then uh yeah, finally
Speaker 1: got Tippy Verus Jade, which is funny. It felt like
Speaker 1: in the discord our predictions all of us were a
Speaker 1: bit torn on.
Speaker 5: I was feeling at the same feeling when she was
Speaker 5: facing Charlotte, like she's just gonna live.
Speaker 2: I just keep it.
Speaker 1: I know what's gonna happen the next time I predicted,
Speaker 1: you know, and she's gonna lose because I thought.
Speaker 3: I thought I saw it. Post Tho was like, it's like,
Speaker 3: oh she's tapping out at Mabia. Oh, she's losing to
Speaker 3: Nia Jacks. She's taking a Jaden.
Speaker 1: It was just like, Okay, I never once thought she
Speaker 1: anyone thought she's losing to Nia Jacks. You need to reevount.
Speaker 1: That's like the people that thought Scarlett was dropping the
Speaker 1: pipe for Sammy and to join them, the like I
Speaker 1: never like Ni Jack's was lucky to get that there, but.
Speaker 3: That she like beats Bianca clean.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I did see a funny post that had had a
Speaker 4: picture of Triple H when doing the other thing that
Speaker 4: he's been doing this weekend, and underneath it said when
Speaker 4: Triple H saw Jade come out in the Jamaica attire,
Speaker 4: her plans changed.
Speaker 2: You're losing clean. You're losing clean, yeah, which I liked.
Speaker 2: I liked the gear Lot, but yeah, no, I thought Jade.
Speaker 1: Was gonna win because again, here's my My point though,
Speaker 1: was uh Meltzer report this a while back and the
Speaker 1: Unreal documentary confirmed it.
Speaker 2: They the original plan last year for Jay got injured
Speaker 2: was for Jade to win the title.
Speaker 1: She was and who knows in the timny thing, but
Speaker 1: because remember the match was supposed to be jan and
Speaker 1: apparently the.
Speaker 2: Plan was for her to go over, which yeah, I
Speaker 2: can't fuck it.
Speaker 1: So that's why I thought it was kind of like
Speaker 1: they just want to get there. They've been obsessed with it,
Speaker 1: and it is.
Speaker 5: Its told me that Jade wasn't winning because they had
Speaker 5: no lie and I think it showed me that they
Speaker 5: don't trust Jade because they have any live and they
Speaker 5: have any live pro most the only interactions they had
Speaker 5: I think we're back stage and if they weren't the.
Speaker 1: Rud couple Runnings, it was like Runnings, like they say.
Speaker 3: The match to like heat up.
Speaker 5: Jade was like she just like squashed Chelsea and like, yeah,
Speaker 5: like just like a match that like she pretty much
Speaker 5: just like hit her finish and like no other moves
Speaker 5: pretty much. So this just told me like and and
Speaker 5: this match was like they pretty much used the thing
Speaker 5: they did for Trish Shattists, what's a good match, which
Speaker 5: I really liked, but it's like, we can't have this
Speaker 5: go more than like ten minutes. It's like justich explosive,
Speaker 5: do their moves and get it over and get it over.
Speaker 3: And I did like this match.
Speaker 5: I did think it was really good, but that showed
Speaker 5: me like they don't like I think they were trying
Speaker 5: with Jade and they had her in Queen of the
Speaker 5: Ring and each match people.
Speaker 3: Were like, this wasn't very good, and I think at.
Speaker 5: Some point this year they realized, like Jade is not
Speaker 5: what they originally wanted her to be.
Speaker 1: Well, and I joked about the discord, but it felt
Speaker 1: like if people go watch, we're not gonna talk about
Speaker 1: it in depth here. But the unreal doc and who know,
Speaker 1: Like again some that they even say like some that's
Speaker 1: you know, plan shoot.
Speaker 2: Stuff like that.
Speaker 1: But even then they have these meetings right and they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: we just worre like is Jay getting up blown up?
Speaker 1: Or is he the right guy? And midway there you
Speaker 1: see this conversation where like, hey, if it doesn't improve,
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to go the other way, which means
Speaker 1: gun they're winning. And I feel like, I mean, as
Speaker 1: an example of like I bet that was probably the
Speaker 1: real life situation here where it's like if Jay can deliver,
Speaker 1: I think Tiffany's taking the one, two three. But now
Speaker 1: it's like we've talked about this before where I'm not
Speaker 1: saying it's like the crossing. I don't get rid of Jade,
Speaker 1: like user the bi Chiteg team was a great idea,
Speaker 1: but like, obviously they can't just keep throwing her tags.
Speaker 1: I agreed David that maybe now just do a mid
Speaker 1: card something like that. But there's multiple times through the
Speaker 1: build up, and I mean the built with King of
Speaker 1: the Ring and even this match, we're like, what's supposed
Speaker 1: to be the huge intense spot if you hit your
Speaker 1: finish and Tiffany gets on the ropes to like two
Speaker 1: point nine, Jade fucked that up.
Speaker 2: She leaned back to stupid.
Speaker 5: I think she's watched the Jaded in every single match
Speaker 5: he's won in like the last five matches.
Speaker 3: And I.
Speaker 5: Or just like, does it weird like the Oscar and
Speaker 5: she's it was like she just like pinned her weird.
Speaker 2: It's like yeah, and to me and thinks just like
Speaker 2: a nervous thing. She's like, I got to get this right,
Speaker 2: and it's like, fuck, I didn't get right.
Speaker 1: Like again, I'm not saying never, but I'm saying that
Speaker 1: she's not ready for this spot.
Speaker 2: And I think they all decide that. And now I'm
Speaker 2: just very curious, like you, so I'm just very curious
Speaker 2: what's next.
Speaker 5: Particular feel like could just could just win. Like that's
Speaker 5: my feeling on the tiffany one, like all these other ones.
Speaker 5: It's like and I mean she's supposedly coming back like
Speaker 5: on SmackDown, like this.
Speaker 3: Week is the rumor.
Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean I feel like that's the Paris match,
Speaker 5: like right away.
Speaker 1: I guess my only thing is like and I know
Speaker 1: I've I'm always wrong with this stuff because I already
Speaker 1: booked Shod and Alexai and I'm gonna book Tiffany to
Speaker 1: hold till Mania.
Speaker 2: But like, my only thing is like everyone's told, everyone
Speaker 2: told me Menia. That's how I am.
Speaker 5: Along triple Like people only lose their titles that Mania
Speaker 5: or so are slammed unless like on a random.
Speaker 1: Rock or if you're Jay, if you you know, won
Speaker 1: the world title, and that's a thing where people are.
Speaker 3: Like the only title changes are like on Raw WrestleMania.
Speaker 3: No one on SmackDown though, except the women's US title.
Speaker 2: But I guess I don't think you're wrong.
Speaker 1: But if Beyonca versus or she can win, I think
Speaker 1: my just worry about Beyonca is like unless she's doing
Speaker 1: a heel term, which I don't think she will.
Speaker 2: I just don't know what they I just don't know
Speaker 2: now that which I will see his mistake.
Speaker 1: Around Naomi's over on Raw and you could do Beyonca
Speaker 1: versus Jay heel, but after that, I don't know what
Speaker 1: much there is for Beyonca to do. So that's why
Speaker 1: my pitch was hold off for Tiffany beyoncea Tilmnia because
Speaker 1: I also think that's a big time WrestleMania.
Speaker 2: Because like, like I'm I'm going with the rumors.
Speaker 1: I do think they're gonna do Rihan Stephaniette Mania. I
Speaker 1: think they're gonna I think they're gonna do that fucking.
Speaker 3: Change so like they do.
Speaker 2: And I like, yeah, it could maybe, I just yeah,
Speaker 2: they could. I guess I have to see it the
Speaker 2: next few months ago.
Speaker 1: I could also see that being like at the Rumble
Speaker 1: or something like that, the cap off that feud. I
Speaker 1: just feel like triple H because there was that rumor
Speaker 1: that triple h' is like, oh that's a that's a
Speaker 1: Mania mattress there. My only other person for Tiffany or
Speaker 1: Bianca is if they big time, which they will heat
Speaker 1: up Julia real fast.
Speaker 2: And I mean like Julia doesn't even.
Speaker 1: Lose the US title, like she goes in double champ
Speaker 1: to either verse Tiffany or Beyonce wrust.
Speaker 5: Like the Charlotte match, like when she got injured like
Speaker 5: Mania forty yeah, and then this year was like when
Speaker 5: she was coming back, it was like someone working Bianca
Speaker 5: right and they're like, no, you're you're working Tiffany at
Speaker 5: Mania because as supposed to like when she actually like yep,
Speaker 5: we're doing Mania, We're locking it in and they're like,
Speaker 5: actually we're we're doing you versus Tiffany.
Speaker 1: No, we all that'd be great too. That one, I'm
Speaker 1: just more questionable because like said, right.
Speaker 5: It's like you could have, like you could have like
Speaker 5: the good crowd reaction for Charlotte winning a world title
Speaker 5: if you do it the right way, you.
Speaker 1: Could you could there there there's there's a way to
Speaker 1: do it and that But that's where for me, I'm
Speaker 1: just questioned because if this take, do you think it's hot?
Speaker 2: They could run for that for a while, right, So,
Speaker 2: like I.
Speaker 1: Said, moving, oh yeah, and again there's so much stuff
Speaker 1: where the crowd. There's a bunch of which I hate
Speaker 1: to say it, but between now man and there'll be
Speaker 1: a bunch of injuries. Right, someone will go down that
Speaker 1: wasn't supposed to and plans change.
Speaker 2: Right. So I just.
Speaker 1: Feel like the way they got up this is all
Speaker 1: told you if no injuries.
Speaker 2: I feel like both Stephanie.
Speaker 1: And Julia are in some world title matches. I feel
Speaker 1: like they got called up like them that match.
Speaker 5: You could do that Stephanie versus Julia at Mania for
Speaker 5: either like one of the mid cart titles.
Speaker 1: True, you could do the use title or they could
Speaker 1: even do some gimmick where it's like Tiffany versus Julia versus.
Speaker 2: Like do a way that way.
Speaker 1: I just feel like brought them up clearly, like you know,
Speaker 1: Julia's doing fucking not much was used till the last
Speaker 1: week where she finally.
Speaker 5: Was actually really really good because I saw some point out.
Speaker 5: It's like in a lot of the earlier matches of Julia,
Speaker 5: like in w they were good, but they were like
Speaker 5: felt like yeah, either like she was trying to work
Speaker 5: like like what she kind of thought w W wanted.
Speaker 5: Where now it's like she's very much just doing like
Speaker 5: it's like either it's like the Kyrie saying thing that people,
Speaker 5: it's like she sort of works like it's like you
Speaker 5: follow me and what what I do, and like Julia's
Speaker 5: I thought her match was Alena this this week was
Speaker 5: actually really good and yeah, she was doing her full
Speaker 5: just like just doing some crazy head moves like someone
Speaker 5: like her finishers, like if she doesn't like push Selena
Speaker 5: out on like the Northern Lights boan, like a fraction
Speaker 5: of a second, she's landed.
Speaker 3: Like straight on her neck.
Speaker 5: But uh, yeah, I do wonder yeah the whole Julia
Speaker 5: Stephanie I mean supposedly the draft.
Speaker 3: There's a draft happening like super soon.
Speaker 1: May sure that so many people have said that though,
Speaker 1: because I hear Yeah, the word was like after Summer Slim,
Speaker 1: but I feel like it was.
Speaker 2: Like, oh, it's happening in May. It's happening here, you know,
Speaker 2: like we've heard it a couple of times.
Speaker 5: The rumor originally was supposed to be the week of
Speaker 5: like that Suray Knight's main event with Sina and Truth
Speaker 5: and then they canceled it. But like Triple A was
Speaker 5: just like, give me the people who I want anyway.
Speaker 5: So it's like my rock sand and Julia and Stephanie
Speaker 5: came up like because that was like those are people
Speaker 5: who are gonna get drafted pretty much.
Speaker 4: And but yes, as long as they don't did like
Speaker 4: they normally do where they do it a week before
Speaker 4: Survivor series and then you're like you were on SmackDown
Speaker 4: a week ago, why team are.
Speaker 2: All, Yeah, yeah, I believe.
Speaker 5: It's actually happening like I assumed, probably before Clash in Paris.
Speaker 2: Okay, well we'll see, we'll see what happened here.
Speaker 5: I know.
Speaker 1: Well, I guess one more thing. Yeah, Triple H talked
Speaker 1: about every match of the press or except for Karen
Speaker 1: Cross or Sammy's ans either Cross is gone or they're
Speaker 1: doing the overwork, which I think they're I think they're
Speaker 1: working working.
Speaker 2: But David, you didn't say much on Tiffany and Bianca
Speaker 2: or Jade.
Speaker 4: Sorry in my notes. Like I said, I think it
Speaker 4: was a good match. Tiffy didn't get a lot of
Speaker 4: offense at first, but I mean she showed why she
Speaker 4: is in that position on the times that she did
Speaker 4: get to get her moves in. There were some times
Speaker 4: where Jay did still look like she was kind of
Speaker 4: getting lost in some maneuvers and things like that, which
Speaker 4: I think may be another reason why she hasn't won
Speaker 4: the title yet. I was surprised to see Tiffany win
Speaker 4: and then win clean, but man, that prettiest moonsalt ever.
Speaker 4: When she hit that, I was like, oh, oh no,
Speaker 4: it's done. Like she looks good and I'm I like Tiffy,
Speaker 4: So yeah, let her keep running with the belt. I'm
Speaker 4: interested to see where they go with Jay next. He said,
Speaker 4: drop her down, give her a mid card title, and
Speaker 4: just let her be that monster person with the mid
Speaker 4: card title.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like I actually didn't say much.
Speaker 5: I kind of go off topic with the match, but
Speaker 5: actually did really like this this match. I thought it was,
Speaker 5: like I said, similar to like the formula they use
Speaker 5: with the Trust Strats match, just like doing all the
Speaker 5: big moves and all those spots of like Tiffany like
Speaker 5: she can pull all that off and make it look
Speaker 5: really good and explosive. And I really enjoyed the match.
Speaker 5: I thought they they had a match on like smack
Speaker 5: Down a few.
Speaker 3: Months ago, the c yeah, which I really liked, and
Speaker 3: I felt like this match improved upon that.
Speaker 5: And I really liked the finish where she was going
Speaker 5: for like I didn't expect, like they're gonna pull that,
Speaker 5: Like I didn't know where.
Speaker 2: They were going because they.
Speaker 5: Just like the avalanche jaded and got her like in
Speaker 5: the post, but then like actually dropped. They did like
Speaker 5: a huge sunset flip into the prettiest moods all ever
Speaker 5: and yeah one clean so and like I said, the
Speaker 5: disc or literally completely undefeated Tiffany's strand in twenty twenty five,
Speaker 5: like lost no tag team matches, not even a DQ
Speaker 5: loss at all.
Speaker 2: And again I know that was always a joke.
Speaker 1: They even joked about that, but like she really is
Speaker 1: like Charlotte like five.
Speaker 2: Seven years ago were Shark. We just have a good
Speaker 2: match with anybody.
Speaker 1: I think Tiffany is that where just like no matter what,
Speaker 1: it's never gonna be. I don't think you're ever you know, regardless,
Speaker 1: like you know, barring injuries, and you're never gonna see
Speaker 1: like an all time stinker with Tiffany.
Speaker 5: She's like the.
Speaker 3: Is Yeah.
Speaker 5: I think the thing that Tiffany is like it's hert thing.
Speaker 5: Like she works like very different styles than like what
Speaker 5: you would think just like looking at her at first glance,
Speaker 5: I feel like because she does like also she has
Speaker 5: like the souls and fris like some high flanks of
Speaker 5: ostly all the power stuff and she can do the
Speaker 5: striking and like all she she's like just like a
Speaker 5: mix of everything and yeah, just works with a bunch
Speaker 5: of different people. And yeah, I'm very interested in the
Speaker 5: Bianca match. I feel like that would be like a
Speaker 5: great great match they've had, yeah, think one we know,
Speaker 5: the ring match or something like that, but it was
Speaker 5: like I remember it was something like yeah, she like
Speaker 5: couldn't hit the kyoto or something like that. But I
Speaker 5: feel like getting it on a p L E especially,
Speaker 5: I feel it's gonna be great, great match, especially, I
Speaker 5: feel like those two are a lot similar. I'd say
Speaker 5: probably more than like a Charlotte and Tiffany comparison. I
Speaker 5: feel like Tiffany and Bianca are more similar and that's
Speaker 5: samely like obviously very athletic but can do the power
Speaker 5: moves and are like extremely quick. I feel like that's
Speaker 5: gonna be just a great great match.
Speaker 1: Okay, so we'll go over just some quick prediction or
Speaker 1: is there anything else about the show that we haven't
Speaker 1: talked about? Okay, so we're just gonna do quick wrap
Speaker 1: pire predictions because also when people listen to this, the
Speaker 1: event will be just probably a couple of hours later.
Speaker 1: But just so we have a record Naomi versus Ria,
Speaker 1: Ripley versus Sky. Does anyone think Naomi is losing this?
Speaker 2: There's no way of.
Speaker 3: Think so unless like Jade runs up.
Speaker 2: Sorry, but like yeah, no, like I don't think she's
Speaker 2: losing this.
Speaker 1: I think when we get to our next I don't know,
Speaker 1: and we will say I'm not sure because August thirty
Speaker 1: first is the next Poe.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if.
Speaker 1: We probably do review that because then for beIN doors
Speaker 1: the week before August thirty first, right, it's the week before. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think for beIN Doors is like right before Clash
Speaker 1: of Paris. So I think that'll probably be the next
Speaker 1: gimmick after these because then we could review both shows.
Speaker 1: So just you know, because predictions why, it's kind of
Speaker 1: awkward again timing wise, you know, check out GMO. We
Speaker 1: do that every month, so look up for that GMO
Speaker 1: God two and oh you know I'm gonna become that
Speaker 1: I'm excited for.
Speaker 2: Well, I guess i'll talk about because we might not
Speaker 2: do a prediction show. I do think Naomi actually has
Speaker 2: a good chance of losing to Stephanie in Paris.
Speaker 1: I think that's like fifty to fifty for me right now,
Speaker 1: because like I said, I could see the trajectory of
Speaker 1: Stephanie winning it and Ria winning the fucking Runbler Chamber,
Speaker 1: and that's like I just I just can see the
Speaker 1: YouTube views, the TikTok's already and like we said that,
Speaker 1: there was a rumor that had a boo put out
Speaker 1: that Tripleach was telling me like no, I see as
Speaker 1: a Mania match, Like I see it clear as day
Speaker 1: of winning that.
Speaker 3: Run back a triple threat with like eo.
Speaker 1: Oh god, don't do some you know what gets.
Speaker 3: Manias, the triple threat mania, you know.
Speaker 1: And that's where I would do the reverse then do
Speaker 1: beyonda EO and Tiffany. But even then get EO to
Speaker 1: SmackDown e and Tiffany like do something like that, you know.
Speaker 3: But that's also when they like teased.
Speaker 1: So but yeah, she I think I always least winning
Speaker 1: this clash of parents. I think that's that's up in
Speaker 1: the air, that's on the that.
Speaker 5: Will be like a depends on like the Go Home
Speaker 5: raw who stands.
Speaker 3: Tall for me?
Speaker 2: Absolutely? And I hope they just do like an interview no, like.
Speaker 5: The Jade and Tiffany like there was just like they
Speaker 5: just said like like I'm winning. Yeah, there's no standing
Speaker 5: tall or anything.
Speaker 1: Yeah you got Becky versus Lyra. I will say, I
Speaker 1: was full on board about the story of Lyra winning,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna subs is his tricks has worked for me.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Becky's gonna win because I do think
Speaker 1: Bailey's gonna interfere.
Speaker 2: I will say, if Lyra just.
Speaker 1: Wins and Bailey does not interfere, Bailey is going to aw.
Speaker 1: I know it sounds like a big jump, but hear O,
Speaker 1: because that's like you miss many like because they could
Speaker 1: have easily done Becky versus Bailey one on one first
Speaker 1: right before they have Lyra just win. If Liar just
Speaker 1: wins a bat clean as a sheet, no interference by Bailey,
Speaker 1: then yeah, you're gonna have new Women's aw champion taking
Speaker 1: champions with Mercedes Mane and Pamela or whatever.
Speaker 2: She's gonna go by like I'm tell like she will.
Speaker 2: She will like resent it to me.
Speaker 1: I know she canna pay big money, but I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: but so I think S Pubs has convinced me that
Speaker 1: I think she is gonna infer.
Speaker 3: Also, does this elevates Lyra to that like going for
Speaker 3: the main title?
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you do that, I want.
Speaker 5: To get like those like Lyren Real iron Eo, Lyreyn Stephanie,
Speaker 5: Like I feel like Triple just wanting to do these
Speaker 5: matches now.
Speaker 1: And one thing and talk about Jade one. We all
Speaker 1: liked about the Bill de Lei's with wrestleming. It was
Speaker 1: so nice to have just a grudge match on Mania,
Speaker 1: no title, no nothing like.
Speaker 2: That ladder match whatever.
Speaker 1: So if they can have Bailey and Lyra one of
Speaker 1: these shows or main event or sance man like an
Speaker 1: actual good just blood feud without the title. That's great,
Speaker 1: you know, Like I'm all down for that, Like not
Speaker 1: every story has to be centered around the title. That's
Speaker 1: the start of it here. But so we're both on
Speaker 1: Becky David, where are you?
Speaker 4: I have taken the route of s Bubbs. He has
Speaker 4: conviensed me if we're wrong tomorrow we'll playing it all
Speaker 4: on s F. I was not there, but I mean
Speaker 4: he has sold this storyline like he is match producer himself.
Speaker 1: So and Bailey did do that she after smackdam was
Speaker 1: like off air did the like it's not fair.
Speaker 2: So, like to me, it's like they're doing like a work.
Speaker 3: Shoot stuff of like social media.
Speaker 5: It's like all these like all these snakes who betrayed
Speaker 5: me and stuff like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, So I'm with you guys. I think
Speaker 4: there's gonna be some Bailey action in here, and that's
Speaker 4: that's how we're gonna reach this. And then hey, if
Speaker 4: they want to start a little blood feed going for
Speaker 4: a while, I'm okay with that as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's tons of people Becky canning fight too
Speaker 2: for the icy tool, you know. So next we've got
Speaker 2: Solo Cage Master, so Cola versus Jacob Botu.
Speaker 1: I cannot believe how many people I see predicting Soul
Speaker 1: is gonna win this. So I'm getting scared because I've
Speaker 1: seen so many people, but I.
Speaker 4: Jacob off the top of the cage.
Speaker 5: They just make this like as wild as possible, Like
Speaker 5: I don't want them work in a serious cage match,
Speaker 5: like I want to see Tongo Lo like doing a
Speaker 5: four to fifty off this cage like I want like
Speaker 5: I want to Tongo like tearing off like the entire wall.
Speaker 4: Like going full cane.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and all the.
Speaker 5: Jacob fighting like fifteen guys in the ring, you know,
Speaker 5: Jimmy us comes down like no, that's the spot. They're
Speaker 5: gonna be all in the ring, like hitting. Jimmy's setting
Speaker 5: up for Jacob to do the dive off.
Speaker 3: The cage and they all catch him.
Speaker 5: He lands on all of them, Like I don't I
Speaker 5: don't want this to be like a slow Like I
Speaker 5: don't want Solo doing Breasthols in this cage like I want.
Speaker 1: Like their last match though, like that that's what we
Speaker 1: hope their last match would be like a big fight,
Speaker 1: And it was kind of got that way and near
Speaker 1: the end though, like the last few mantes was Cray,
Speaker 1: So I agree with you, that'd be great for me.
Speaker 1: It's like what Es was saying, like, oh, Liar could
Speaker 1: lose to go in the main title. I don't think
Speaker 1: Jacob's there yet in my pages since.
Speaker 5: It's like sort of a face like if Cody wins, Yeah,
Speaker 5: Like I feel like you because obviously that's the like
Speaker 5: a match you're definitely gonna want to do, but especially
Speaker 5: since he's a face right now, but the US.
Speaker 2: Is gonna be a face in twenty four hours.
Speaker 1: No, I mean it's Tody gonna be a fracture mask,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 5: But then I feel like Jacob, it's like you put
Speaker 5: the US title on.
Speaker 3: Them, have like a strong run there.
Speaker 5: Like I feel like you probably get like the Alistair match,
Speaker 5: like a Damien.
Speaker 3: Match in there, you know.
Speaker 5: I mean they tease the Damien that was also the
Speaker 5: one that they like tease for like a couple of
Speaker 5: weeks and like never, like they did like a four
Speaker 5: wave of a never the actual match.
Speaker 1: But even Drew, he was in that title picture for
Speaker 1: a little bit, right they and Drew. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: like Drew Bean in the US Siddle picture, But I
Speaker 1: like Drew and Jacob as a matchup that sounds that's
Speaker 1: a meaty, big meaty man slapping meat right there.
Speaker 5: Necessarily at that point, who like Jacob would lose it
Speaker 5: to if he's like out of like the bloodline yeah verse,
Speaker 5: but still I still think he's probably winning this match,
Speaker 5: like I think all the like, I feel like Solo
Speaker 5: is better off, like he can keep this character and
Speaker 5: all his family and stuff. I think this like more
Speaker 5: comedic character is working a lot, especially if he interacts
Speaker 5: more with the people outside of the Bloodline. Like, I
Speaker 5: think he's very entertaining this character right now.
Speaker 3: I like it, And yeah, I think this this.
Speaker 5: The Bloodline story has to like finally and somewhat MFT story.
Speaker 2: Oh god, doing start there?
Speaker 1: Like, I think it's a good chance to wrestle any time,
Speaker 1: you know, they do the six pack Ladder matters went
Speaker 1: not like there's a good chance. That's where the Bloodline
Speaker 1: is and that's where Solo is. But no ire points
Speaker 1: I think Jacob wins it has a longer run with
Speaker 1: because I didn't even have that long of a run.
Speaker 1: So that's what I think.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, I'm with Jake winning I do want the
Speaker 4: chaos of it all. Like you said, I get any
Speaker 4: available member of the Samoan dynasty that you can bring back,
Speaker 4: bring back, bring back to Mina.
Speaker 3: I have a running there at pointing out that.
Speaker 5: Like at Wrestle Khan, I think Rikishi and Hanku.
Speaker 3: I think it was like.
Speaker 4: Yes, they were pulled from their appearances. Yes, God, let
Speaker 4: let's have every everybody we can, you know, a stink
Speaker 4: face in the corner. I'm here for the craziness. But
Speaker 4: Jacob to walking out, Okay.
Speaker 1: The other secondary title Donald stere versus a j don't
Speaker 1: know why, just feel I just don't feel like it's
Speaker 1: not for him to lose.
Speaker 2: I think he's having fun, that there's some good juice there.
Speaker 5: I just think the whole triple a thing for me,
Speaker 5: like I think they want him to be like the
Speaker 5: double Champ.
Speaker 1: I think for one photo they do, that's what that's
Speaker 1: my thing is for the one photo and then he
Speaker 1: can lose it later because I just think think that
Speaker 1: can be like a historic you.
Speaker 3: Know, look, my thing. Also it's like you can do.
Speaker 5: I feel like Aj could win it in Paris Acal
Speaker 5: with the France crowd reaction, so I feel like maybe
Speaker 5: he retains here through some shenanigans of some sort, gets
Speaker 5: the Triple A title, and right.
Speaker 1: We talked on the discord, Yeah, I completely agree with
Speaker 1: that AJ wins in Paris.
Speaker 2: I think you.
Speaker 4: I've been back and forth on this one because at
Speaker 4: first it was like, all right, Dominique winning, and then
Speaker 4: I was like, all right, Dominicq's winning, so then he
Speaker 4: can also win, uh the Triple A title. But then
Speaker 4: MJF won CMLLL, and I was like, well, now they
Speaker 4: don't want to seem like they're copying, and then I
Speaker 4: went back to but they wouldn't be copying because he
Speaker 4: would be holding two titles, so they'd be like, yeah,
Speaker 4: your guy won one title, our guy has too. So
Speaker 4: now I think the pettiness.
Speaker 2: Of w W beating Hangman for the world title Forbidden Door.
Speaker 4: Get back and forth. But now I do think Dom's
Speaker 4: gonna wait just so that they can have that shot
Speaker 4: of him holding both.
Speaker 1: That's like a whole fame photo, you know that if
Speaker 1: he gets there, like that's like something where you show
Speaker 1: us like the.
Speaker 5: Cody with like the normal title and the Eagle title
Speaker 5: on the ladder, like that's gonna be in like his
Speaker 5: retirement video.
Speaker 1: It's a top card, you know, it's one of that ship.
Speaker 1: You know, it's absolutely it's too good not to do.
Speaker 1: But I think ag being in Paris is like perfect.
Speaker 1: He wasn't a babyfacer last time. He didn't get to
Speaker 1: win their last time they can sing. He made a
Speaker 1: bet that show.
Speaker 2: By god.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I feel like you get like, you know,
Speaker 5: Finn JD maybe even like some some rock sand you know,
Speaker 5: love story teasing or something like that.
Speaker 3: But I feel like he wins it in the end
Speaker 3: here against a J.
Speaker 2: And then I bet when ajin it.
Speaker 1: My predictions they're going to go into a Finn aj
Speaker 1: program and like more Bowl Club, I did like.
Speaker 5: A twenty minute random raw ma match. You remember that
Speaker 5: like a few months ago.
Speaker 2: And years ago. I don't know if you've ever heard this.
Speaker 1: At one point they're going to be doing the Demon
Speaker 1: Finbalard versus Sister Abigail, but it was just bray Wild
Speaker 1: dressing as a woman. Yeah, and it's canceled. But they
Speaker 1: just threw a J and and that actually had like
Speaker 1: a bang or four star. So like there's a bunch
Speaker 1: of lore stuff they've not really touched upon there. But
Speaker 1: we'll see this match TLC six Pack Challenge, the Wye
Speaker 1: six ANDREDDA and Ray Phoenix, d I y Fracks and
Speaker 1: Motorcy machine guns in the street profits.
Speaker 2: Two things on this maybe three for me? I guess four.
Speaker 1: This feels like, damn you guys complain it out not
Speaker 1: being Wrestlmania here it's on Summer sign because we don't
Speaker 1: smack it any like it.
Speaker 2: This just feels like a reround of that. It feels
Speaker 2: like it's been the exact same. And to me, I
Speaker 2: remember back in the day when they did TLCO four teams,
Speaker 2: I was like, that's way too many people. Six teams
Speaker 2: and twelve men and wyatts. You know, we're gonna run.
Speaker 3: Around the sixth and ladder match.
Speaker 4: And Ray Phoenix will still break something.
Speaker 2: But was it tag teams though?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. It was. It was just a normal
Speaker 3: ladder match, though they didn't call it TLC all right.
Speaker 2: That was when they brought down the whole thing, right.
Speaker 3: It was for two titles.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I know the match before they have.
Speaker 1: But I'm still gonna say it's way too many people,
Speaker 1: you know, and it's it's I'm I'm so. This is
Speaker 1: my second point. Is I feel or my third point,
Speaker 1: it still feels so weird to me that Androt and
Speaker 1: Ray Phoenix are a team.
Speaker 4: I feel like they're winning, Like for sure Phoenix is
Speaker 4: breaking something.
Speaker 2: Oh god, not again, Phoenix's brain. We had a really
Speaker 2: bad injury ladder match. But it's funny.
Speaker 1: Just feels like they're like, well, Pento's really over, so
Speaker 1: we're not doing that tag team anytime.
Speaker 2: Seems like here's Ondrawde.
Speaker 1: I'm picking Wyatt's because I think they just won the titles.
Speaker 2: They've never really wrestled on the pay per view. I
Speaker 2: think you could be right, but that's a good second.
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna I'm gonna pick the White Six here
Speaker 1: in my opinion.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna go the same. I think that Why
Speaker 4: Six will win. I do think that there may be
Speaker 4: some spookier of the worldly shenanigans. I am excited though,
Speaker 4: because I want to see whatever Montese Ford does in
Speaker 4: this match. I think that he is going to have
Speaker 4: some sort of memorable spot and I am here for it.
Speaker 2: And you're sticking without Jorddy and Ray there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I'm certain that they're winning. I don't know why.
Speaker 3: I just feel it.
Speaker 4: Bye bye Ankles.
Speaker 2: Oh this is interesting.
Speaker 1: So shamas W is no longer doing the standard post
Speaker 1: show pressors for the foreseable future, They're only doing the
Speaker 1: post shows.
Speaker 2: That's interesting.
Speaker 1: You know why, you fucking know why. I'll just say
Speaker 1: one of the reasons. Triple ah fucking met with Trump
Speaker 1: this week. He didn't want well a single question asked
Speaker 1: while he's at the goddamn press Like it just felt
Speaker 1: it feels like such like a lot only more questions,
Speaker 1: but that it works better for them the post shows
Speaker 1: because they can do the whole Oh this is real,
Speaker 1: but okay, if they were the press conference, this this
Speaker 1: weird mixing awesome again, it started weird.
Speaker 5: Sometimes it was like when I'm like seeing it that
Speaker 5: like the hey, the truth and like the press conference,
Speaker 5: it's just.
Speaker 2: Kind of like what it felt awkward.
Speaker 3: It's just like.
Speaker 5: Silence because these are like there's like some really it
Speaker 5: was like the local you know, like I'm here from
Speaker 5: like I don't know, like Vancouver local.
Speaker 1: Tips absolutely tell us the importance of w W and Minnesota.
Speaker 1: It's like I don't need this fucking question when you
Speaker 1: asked me about like and that's what happened again.
Speaker 2: The w Press CONCCE just started.
Speaker 1: Like good when it was like Cody and j being
Speaker 1: drunk and people literally asking you, like, hey, talk about
Speaker 1: Vince talk about this like it was like talk about
Speaker 1: They asked like, how do you feelbout Edge going aw?
Speaker 2: I was like, but you could tell those people just
Speaker 2: like that guy.
Speaker 1: I can't remember the report, but when he asked about
Speaker 1: Janelle Grant thing next press or he was not there,
Speaker 1: so you could tell they didn't want it to be that.
Speaker 2: They just wanted like triple hs.
Speaker 1: Don't you love San Francisco's, Like you know, I've always
Speaker 1: those Sent Francisco since the nineties. I walked Kowalski, like,
Speaker 1: this is the better way for them to do it, so,
Speaker 1: I mean, it makes them less newsworthy, but there you go.
Speaker 2: They're not doing those, so okay. And finally Cody Roads
Speaker 2: versus John Cena.
Speaker 1: I think we all know Cody's winning, where I you know,
Speaker 1: maybe other people think about either way he's winning. I
Speaker 1: think we all kind of top up for months, Hey,
Speaker 1: this is gonna be the time where they change it
Speaker 1: and Seena is gonna turn the.
Speaker 2: Match, whether it's after or mid whatever.
Speaker 1: And I thought we all kind of said, well, they're
Speaker 1: gonna do that because this heel turn has not been
Speaker 1: up to stuff. Maybe right, some good moments, but overall
Speaker 1: kind of I think most people go f grade I
Speaker 1: am in this new era. Well, this is where I'll
Speaker 1: say I'm old man Travis again. I'm sitting here, I'm
Speaker 1: having dinner with my family. I see my phone go
Speaker 1: and I supposed give me the breakdown of the promo SmackDown,
Speaker 1: because I usually don't watch SmackDown because SmackDown's usually I
Speaker 1: don't say the shits, but it's very questionable. So already
Speaker 1: when I'm watching Raw, a pay review in AW yeah, like,
Speaker 1: but already when it's like a full week of AW
Speaker 1: raw and a pay review McKay SmackDown, you're getting the boo,
Speaker 1: especially sometimes the go home shows before they like phone.
Speaker 2: Those things in.
Speaker 1: But SA's update here, right, And so I'm hearing Sena's
Speaker 1: words through s Pub's text. I don't know as I
Speaker 1: don't have Seena's cadence. So I'm like, oh, for sure,
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen is like Sina's lying and he's gotta
Speaker 1: nuts show like they've done this many times, like I'm good,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, and then boom, nutshot. See it SummerSlam kid,
Speaker 1: and he's like, no, you just kind of full baby
Speaker 1: face these baby face and all I see these twezzas
Speaker 1: Sina just turned baby face. I'm like, okay, So I
Speaker 1: finished in cleaning the dishes, like, oh, I gotta watch
Speaker 1: this promo.
Speaker 2: I'm watching the promo. Wh I do my dishes?
Speaker 1: And it was just like the Punk Sauny thing where
Speaker 1: it's like, you know what the storyline this is. Punk
Speaker 1: has always said he hated doesn't like saalry Radius. So
Speaker 1: let's say he's a coward for going, Oh what's the payup?
Speaker 2: Oh? Nothing, He's just a coward. Like, oh, okay, it's
Speaker 2: the same thing. What were we gonna do here?
Speaker 1: Well, Sina's just gonna come out and say, uh, he's
Speaker 1: screwed up and this is a bad.
Speaker 2: Idea and I want to be John Sena again.
Speaker 1: Oh it's a trick for Cody, right, Nah man, he's
Speaker 1: just back to being babased.
Speaker 2: Now. Granted, I'm still gonna say there's some chicaanery.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna say they're gonna they're gonna do an
Speaker 1: loll Sina could retain and people are pissed. But if
Speaker 1: they did this I've never seen this done before. It's
Speaker 1: so it feels so odd with the Trous Scott stuff
Speaker 1: and the Rock stuff, Like I feel like the Rock just.
Speaker 5: The celebrity video package they went back to like the
Speaker 5: like I don't know, like the wwwf and like every
Speaker 5: celebrity has ever appeared in WW history and why they're
Speaker 5: this is like the video package for the jelly Roll match.
Speaker 5: It was just like a video Yeah, it was just
Speaker 5: like a video package of like this is why celebrities
Speaker 5: to the history of w W. And it was like
Speaker 5: every like you know, the clod like like Cinny Lapper
Speaker 5: and like all the other like people Jackman on raw punching,
Speaker 5: the like Dollziggler or whatever.
Speaker 3: No Travis Scott at all.
Speaker 1: Hi.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So this is the thing where there could be
Speaker 1: an ultramar because I said, wouldn't it just be funny
Speaker 1: if Rock and Scott did show up and they screwed
Speaker 1: Cody Agan And I don't know if I want that.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like in this air where they're trying
Speaker 1: to overwork Heel because this promo, this is how he
Speaker 1: turns Bay face.
Speaker 5: It feels Travis thing is like like you're supposed to have.
Speaker 5: Like there's like I follow like the WWE trading card stuff,
Speaker 5: and you're supposed to have like this whole line of
Speaker 5: like like cactus Jack themed trading cards cards. The game
Speaker 5: is like and the people are like, we have no
Speaker 5: idea what this is releasing, Like like there's photos of
Speaker 5: like the wrestlers like signing all the cards, but like
Speaker 5: there's been no word on when this set is releasing,
Speaker 5: Like there's no information if it's ever gonna release.
Speaker 2: Like it's so weird.
Speaker 1: And that's where there's the two things I'll say before
Speaker 1: you guys, is one if this way they turned him.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying like the Native is saying, I have
Speaker 1: to wait and see how the match because it just
Speaker 1: feels awkward right now.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's bad.
Speaker 1: It just like feels very strange, but at least it's
Speaker 1: something new. But at the same time, it's like, why
Speaker 1: do not you still do this mid match, because like
Speaker 1: when you may still feel more cheerfu scene anal, it's
Speaker 1: just a babyface.
Speaker 2: I always pitch it.
Speaker 1: I wanted bayfased Scena and Cody WrestleMania. I wish that
Speaker 1: still happen now, but granted, so I'm waiting till the
Speaker 1: match tomorrow when we talk about it, or at least
Speaker 1: David I supose might be on later if you can
Speaker 1: make it, because he's watching at the theaters, so we'll
Speaker 1: see if you get his thoughts what not. But so
Speaker 1: I'm gonna wait to match see how all plays out.
Speaker 1: But it just feels odd and awkward to me now.
Speaker 1: And the Scott thing, there's two minds this where the
Speaker 1: fan of me is like, man, they just wait, they
Speaker 1: seen a winning seventeen, that main event, what a waste
Speaker 1: on tras Scott. But at the same time, old man
Speaker 1: traves here at the beginning when they're talking about all
Speaker 1: those like SummerSlam moments and hype and we're trending. To me,
Speaker 1: it's kind of like, I hope that teaches them that
Speaker 1: let's be careful with what we do in the future,
Speaker 1: because I know Rock was there and all this stuff
Speaker 1: until I hear it was Rock told Paul Leveck and said,
Speaker 1: Travis Scott better being the main event is.
Speaker 3: That it wasn't Rock. But like ari Emanuel.
Speaker 5: Okay, that's not better being the Like Travis Scott's like
Speaker 5: the rumors like he had some sort of favor to
Speaker 5: Travis Scott, like I wanted to be in WW. So
Speaker 5: Ari Emmanuel is like, you have to put Traviscott in
Speaker 5: is the.
Speaker 2: Supposed again I'm five in.
Speaker 1: It's just the question of if that whole main event
Speaker 1: with the fiend, Like that's why I want to know
Speaker 1: way more so, that's why I can't make that judgment right.
Speaker 2: But whether it's the same.
Speaker 5: Time, It's like, even if he needed to be in there,
Speaker 5: I think there's a universe where it could have worked,
Speaker 5: Like if if they.
Speaker 1: Did like like the same situation of him, They're like
Speaker 1: Rock's not showing up, but you have Travis.
Speaker 3: I feel like you could do something with.
Speaker 1: That, just come through the crowdy even like again we again,
Speaker 1: we tell all of you. But that's what I mean, Like,
Speaker 1: whether it's Triple h Ri Rock, whoever it is, to me,
Speaker 1: take that as a good lesson of don't put a
Speaker 1: celebrity in your most important angle, one of the most
Speaker 1: important angles. I've seen a break in the seventeen record
Speaker 1: until this person's like locked lock in. I know they
Speaker 1: might say, oh, trash was, but it's like no, no,
Speaker 1: like they like even on the unreal when Triple Ag'
Speaker 1: is like, well, I got these five people I gotta call,
Speaker 1: and I call Travis Scott. It's just like it all
Speaker 1: feels so odd. That's why for me it was kind
Speaker 1: of like a good little cake in their face of
Speaker 1: like good like you kind of like you didn't address this,
Speaker 1: This didn't have like.
Speaker 2: You you you you put the car the horse before
Speaker 2: the car, or the car before the cars. You know.
Speaker 2: It's like the bookend thing again.
Speaker 1: Like so that's why for me as a fan, it
Speaker 1: sucks because I hate that forever Tres Scott's and that
Speaker 1: John c in a moment. But I hope going forward
Speaker 1: they're kind of like if something dumb comes up again
Speaker 1: and they will go, well, remember having trust Scott and
Speaker 1: Ari might be like, yeah, you're right, maybe played a
Speaker 1: different way or Rock or Triple A because again we
Speaker 1: never talked about much of the podcast, but the rock
Speaker 1: new shit.
Speaker 2: He got Pat mcve two days ago. But I didn't
Speaker 2: do this. This wasn't me.
Speaker 1: Brother, Like like everyone knew this was bad, So this
Speaker 1: was like to me, he showed like in the future,
Speaker 1: don't just bowed in, like let's get Tress Scott and
Speaker 1: it's a moment it's like, no, I really think this
Speaker 1: through before you try and just go for what we
Speaker 1: want to trend on social media, you know. So, But yeah,
Speaker 1: I think Cody Rhodes wins. I'm meaning I really don't
Speaker 1: think Cody would turn heel. I think that just doesn't
Speaker 1: work now because.
Speaker 5: You think now he wins with the belt shot, because
Speaker 5: when I noticed is on the contract signing, they already
Speaker 5: did the Cody doesn't hesitate and hits the belt shot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I feel like we might not.
Speaker 3: Actually do it in the mesh, especially if seen as
Speaker 3: a face, like.
Speaker 2: But why street fight?
Speaker 1: Then that's the weird thing, like it's baby. This is
Speaker 1: why this feels like a last minute change as well too.
Speaker 1: If it's bayface, bayface. If Cody Rose out versuing his
Speaker 1: hero John Cena, why did you want to beat him
Speaker 1: up the fuck with a sledgeham or something?
Speaker 2: Right? Like, it's it.
Speaker 1: Something's really awful about it feels like, yeah.
Speaker 4: They forgot that they were supposed to turn John Cena
Speaker 4: face and they're like, oh, so we need you to
Speaker 4: run out there and cut this promo because we forgot
Speaker 4: you're supposed to be a face. Now we are two
Speaker 4: hard They figured.
Speaker 5: They needed to turn a face after that the contract signing,
Speaker 5: but they have an appearance until ago.
Speaker 1: Yeah it was and just like and this is what
Speaker 1: I will say too, if there is some world where
Speaker 1: this is a big swerve and Rock and Scott and
Speaker 1: all this stuff, right and Cody loses again, they make.
Speaker 2: Cody look like the biggest fucking idiot all time.
Speaker 1: He's cracking beers toasted at John Cena and they cut
Speaker 1: the two days later where scene's gonna make raised Like
Speaker 1: if they do that, that's like an old timer, you're
Speaker 1: killing baby face Coad, Like that's some Vincent man one
Speaker 1: on one stuff there.
Speaker 2: So Cody has to win.
Speaker 1: I don't know why they're still doing a street fight,
Speaker 1: like just make it baby baby, best wrestler wins.
Speaker 2: I guess it's the help scene, but it still.
Speaker 1: Just again Cody's gonna be like what like hitting them
Speaker 1: with a chair and a bell like the night like,
Speaker 1: like it's just it's it's a street Fight's a blood.
Speaker 2: Feued dinner to me, the blade in the match, I think,
Speaker 2: so I.
Speaker 1: Could see them both running the blade To be honest,
Speaker 1: scene hasn't bled really since he's been back all like
Speaker 1: in that way like to me, I just I want
Speaker 1: to see the match to k why didn't they.
Speaker 2: Just do the turn in the match? You know?
Speaker 1: Like that to me is where the turn happens somehow.
Speaker 1: So that's where I feel like there's something off here
Speaker 1: or there is something we that is gonna happen.
Speaker 3: It's the I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: But no, a Young Buck superkick, not not the sweet
Speaker 1: Ship music. He'll he'll pull the He'll do the two suite.
Speaker 2: Before and then yeah, but uh yeah, what do you
Speaker 2: do you guys think just Cody Rhoads he wins them
Speaker 2: onto the store.
Speaker 4: I think it's Cody Rhoads taking it and seen him
Speaker 4: moves on to finish out his retirement tour, and Cody
Speaker 4: goes on to carry the title and go back to
Speaker 4: being QB one or whatever he wants to call himself, and.
Speaker 1: Oh QB one soon it's gonna be original Quarterback and one.
Speaker 4: So but no, I do think that we are nearing
Speaker 4: the time to take it off of Sina and let
Speaker 4: him right off into the sunset and just his final
Speaker 4: couple of matches final a couple of months be focused
Speaker 4: more on the appreciation of Sina. We gave Mi seventeen.
Speaker 4: He got that. He'll run Now we can go back
Speaker 4: to the let's appreciate Sina, or he can cuts out
Speaker 4: some more kids. I don't care.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like this ends.
Speaker 5: It's like Cody winning, Sina raises his hand, puts the
Speaker 5: title on them like they got the Pyro. Maybe even
Speaker 5: Cody leaves before seen it, so Scena gets like the
Speaker 5: thank you.
Speaker 3: Scena in the ring like Slam New York.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I don't know for sure, Actually, you know
Speaker 1: what I think they're gonna do. I I don't Someone
Speaker 1: would have to fact check this. So the last time
Speaker 1: John Seen wrestled on net Life, but when he was there,
Speaker 1: as I can remember last is when I was there
Speaker 1: when he when he beat.
Speaker 2: Rock and Rock did the whole. I think they're gonna
Speaker 2: recreate that.
Speaker 1: They're gonna recreate that we're coding him or on the
Speaker 1: stage and Scena lists up his arm and points to
Speaker 1: Cody and the Piro's going off. That's what I think
Speaker 1: they're gonna do. And then Rock's music fucking hits and
Speaker 1: then they cut.
Speaker 3: It's a double rock bottom.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and the.
Speaker 1: Maybe like the fake Pirro where they get electrocuted and stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well there there we go. We got that going.
Speaker 2: So Yeah, we'll be back.
Speaker 5: We did longer on one night of this Summer Slam
Speaker 5: that I think we did on like two nights of
Speaker 5: Mania combined.
Speaker 3: Maybe that's something about the quality of and I guess.
Speaker 1: Because right now we're in that point where rest is
Speaker 1: always the closing chapter, where now we're like, hey, now
Speaker 1: all these we're not many a season nearly close, but
Speaker 1: now we're starting to get like that pre like okay,
Speaker 1: they're gonna start once the arsier happens, they start to
Speaker 1: set those cards right, and the same thing of like, yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Have no idea. I keep seeing people all times. Maybe
Speaker 2: I'm wrong.
Speaker 1: They spam that's gonna be punkin Code, not rumors, just
Speaker 1: people saying like that's what they think. Like I don't
Speaker 1: see punkin Cody happening on it they just want right,
Speaker 1: But like I could see Cody and Roman three happening
Speaker 1: before Cody and punkin see.
Speaker 3: I think punkin Cody is more likely. It's like Punk's
Speaker 3: retirement match.
Speaker 1: Or something something like or when Punk turns Heal and
Speaker 1: they get that going. But you know, like honestly, like
Speaker 1: same thing Roman, if it's not seth like I legitally
Speaker 1: could see us getting Roman and Cody three at Mania
Speaker 1: if they got really nothing to do, like nothing else
Speaker 1: for The'm gonna do it. It's like a big time
Speaker 1: match and that would be fun with no interference to
Speaker 1: see like okay, who's gonna win and like.
Speaker 5: The like what they just did dynamite this just like
Speaker 5: no interferences.
Speaker 1: It's like yeah and sorry, I don't know Cody, but
Speaker 1: Roman was looking real good and I would not like
Speaker 1: your chances.
Speaker 2: I think the big dog might go over.
Speaker 5: They're going to be figuring out this match while they're
Speaker 5: filming it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I can just see Tripho licking his chaws
Speaker 1: being like, well, you know, Roman wasn't a baby face
Speaker 1: with that ty run them doing a babyface O t
Speaker 1: C one Version one, Tribal Chief Ultra Ultimate Yeah Champ,
Speaker 1: Original Champ, Original Tribal Champ stupid, like I can.
Speaker 3: See like go all the way to the back around
Speaker 3: the shirt.
Speaker 1: Or maybe again, maybe they're honestly, I don't think Cody
Speaker 1: would turn, but maybe that's the world where maybe Cody
Speaker 1: does turn to more and then that's yes, it's Cody
Speaker 1: Roman three, but Cody's the heel sign and Roman's face
Speaker 1: and I think they should do that I think the
Speaker 1: next time they do it, I love it if Cody
Speaker 1: was hel because you know what's happening. Cody's been talking
Speaker 1: way too much about being hel, like I won't have
Speaker 1: my tea, like.
Speaker 5: Every interview, like like he does those reason about talking
Speaker 5: want to be Heel, but then he'll do another one.
Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, I don't think I'm ever turning heel.
Speaker 1: Cody to Cody lyon which one's you lying?
Speaker 2: Although we don't know? So did you happen to get
Speaker 2: any of the draft points we throw this closes up.
Speaker 3: I think I got them. I think I have them
Speaker 3: updated y.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we'll say it's a rough bounce.
Speaker 1: Yeah, guess that before we end this, and then yeah tomorrow,
Speaker 1: if you're not on Austin, we'll do the next time,
Speaker 1: or you can send them to me.
Speaker 2: But yeah, so what what are we sending that right now?
Speaker 5: David is at two twenty nine, then I am at
Speaker 5: five twenty sevens is at five thirty.
Speaker 1: Yes, thank you, seth rawlins for the cash and for
Speaker 1: the win. And now, oh man, that's gonna get me
Speaker 1: someoney defense points. He's gonna get me some main event points.
Speaker 1: I can't I can't wait now Jordan Gracius has to get.
Speaker 2: On that roster there. So yeah, David, David, you guys
Speaker 2: start winning some titles.
Speaker 3: I guess you just missed.
Speaker 5: Like we got like the the money of the banks
Speaker 5: and like the returns with like free seven black, so
Speaker 5: each of those are like one hundred points, right, So
Speaker 5: I thought about it like it would have been crazy
Speaker 5: if I had just done like like, don't even care
Speaker 5: about the weekly points.
Speaker 3: But what if I had drafted, Like if I had
Speaker 3: just gone with.
Speaker 2: Like a legend, Yeah, like three of.
Speaker 3: My slots, I'd really got a thousand points.
Speaker 1: I sometimes, Hey, I sometimes do that in GM mode
Speaker 1: where I just buy a legend and they only work
Speaker 1: the pls, Like I just get them to do that,
Speaker 1: so their standards back up and like kay, Trish, get
Speaker 1: back out there, get me a power carself. But well
Speaker 1: there you go. Well we will be back tomorrow. Yeah,
Speaker 1: me and David A spubs was a fifty to fifty way.
Speaker 1: We'll try and get slots at something point.
Speaker 5: And you guys just just starting all I'll join it
Speaker 5: at something, especially if we go aslong tomorrow as we
Speaker 5: did today.
Speaker 3: I feel like since we were talking about a lot
Speaker 3: about the future, but absolutely make it there in time
Speaker 3: to talk about.
Speaker 1: Okay for and yeah, same thing like the Cody scene
Speaker 1: of pro will already talked about and stuff.
Speaker 2: So that's a good thing.
Speaker 1: So and tomorrow is is that six matches? Well okay,
Speaker 1: so the six matches. Yeah, we'll be Backcaine thing right
Speaker 1: after summertime tomorrow. If you listen to podcast, it'll be
Speaker 1: on the feeds Monday morning. Think anyone listen to this
Speaker 1: ad live or at the time. We'll be back tomorrow
Speaker 1: and it won't be boring.