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Speaker 1: This is a podcast from Minute Media.

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Speaker 2: All right, everybody, it's the podcast that is the only

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thing in the world that can drag you away from

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the soft glow of electric sex gleaming in the window.

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And welcome back to the Shirley You Can't Be Serious podcast.

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Shirley fans, I'd like to list you a Merry Christmas.

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Merry Christmas, ded, Merry Christmas. Jason.

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Speaker 3: Thanks, man.

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Speaker 2: I'm so excited we've come to the end of our

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second season. We're finishing off with Christmas movies, but it

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is the season to be jolly, and I'm just I'm

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relishing in all of this Christmas blitz.

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Speaker 3: I know, man, We've had a great year two. Yeah,

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I'm excited about year three. But let's cap year two

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with two of the greatest Christmas movies ever made.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, two Christmas movies about young boys like us back

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in the eighties and nineties who faced troubles but ended

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up having a merry Christmas afteral let's do it. So

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we're going to talk today about Home Alone Yep nineteen

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ninety Yes, and A Christmas Story nineteen eighty three.

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Speaker 3: Right, did you see either of these in the theater?

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Speaker 2: I know that I saw Home Alone in the theater.

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One hundred percent sure I saw it in the theater,

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and I may have seen it a couple times in

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the theater. It was one of those things like Crocodile Dundee,

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where it was just there and stayed there and was

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there and there and there and kept being there. So

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I'm pretty sure I saw it at least twice in

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the theater. A Christmas Story. I was pretty young when

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that one came out. I know that I remember seeing

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it on VHS. I know that I remembered seeing it

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quite a bit before it became the TNT twenty four

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hour marathon, which I think we're in year twenty four

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of that. This year, I think its ninety seven. Yes,

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it's the year twenty four that you're going to get

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twenty four hours of Christmas Story.

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Speaker 3: They play it twelve times in a row.

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Speaker 2: And I'll sit there and I'll watch it. I'll watch it.

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I mean, it's just just on while you're doing your

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Christmas stuff. But my gosh, it's wonderful.

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Speaker 3: And because it's in vignettes, you can pick it up

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here and there and drop it absolutely absolutely, So let's

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talk about that.

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Speaker 2: So you and I talked on the phone yesterday right

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about how these two movies are so similar to other movies,

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and so I said, you know, a Christmas story doesn't

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necessarily have like a real plot to it. I mean,

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it's got kind of an arc of He's wanting the

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bb gun, but it's really just a bunch of vignettes,

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which is basically the same thing as a Christmas vacation

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national lampoon a Christmas vacation. It is the arc of

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he wants a swimming pool and then a bunch of

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vignettes that go along with that family in the hats, right,

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that's right. And then you pointed out that Home Alone

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is really.

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Speaker 3: It's die Hard for kids.

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Speaker 2: It's die Hard for kids. I mean, there are a

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few select plot lines in the library that you could

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pick from, but these are definitely both dude with a problem.

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Speaker 3: Right plot lines.

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Speaker 2: But it goes beyond that, it does. Do you want

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to talk about that now? Are you want to save

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that for later?

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Speaker 3: No, let's talk about it now.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So let's talk about the similarities between Home Alone

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, so these are the exact same movies, just

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flipped ones for adults and ones for kids.

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Speaker 2: Right, the beats are pretty similar.

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Speaker 3: The first similarity in these two movies the bad guy

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Hans Kruber and Harry the Burglar. They both pretend to

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be good guys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Hans Gruber is a guy who works in the building, right,

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that's what he's pretending to be, Bill Clay, And then

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Joe Peshy's at the very beginning of the movie pretending

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Speaker 3: Oh god, you're not one of them, are you?

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Speaker 2: Because he spoke Californian. Check out our Diehard versus Leath

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the Weapon podcasts from last year, one of our best

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series of podcasts. Yeah, I love that one.

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Speaker 3: Okay, what else you got?

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Speaker 2: Okay, So close to the end of the movie, both

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of those same two guys have a amazing and incredibly

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painful looking fall straight back.

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Speaker 3: That is very true. That is very true.

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Speaker 2: Hans Ribber falls to his death. Ja, I hope that's

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not one of the hostages. And Joe Pesci steps on

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the slick steps and does the most painful looking knock

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the breath out of you back splash into the concrest.

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Speaker 3: Those stumpman did not get paid enough on Home alone. Yeah,

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here's the other thing. At the very end of the movie.

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Who comes to the rescue somebody from left field? Right right,

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just the right time, pulls his gun to blow away.

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Speaker 2: Yep, another fantastic hit straight out of looney Tune.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, sure enough.

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Speaker 2: Both movies end with an embrace of somebody who they've

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been trying to reunite with for the entire movie. You

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have John reuniting with Hollie and then you have Kevin

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reuniting with his mom. It's all very beautiful. I'll tell

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you this one. And if you look closely at this one,

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you're gonna be like, wow, where did John Hughes really

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watch a diehard? And the copy beat for beat? So

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you remember when John McClain first sees Hans come in

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with mister Takagi, right, mister, Yes, where's he hiding John McLain, Yes,

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under the table, under the table. And the first time

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we see the bad guys in home alone, what does

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mcaulay culkin do? What does Kevin do? He runs upstairs

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and I and then it is the same perspective, little

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crouched down hidden underneath the bed instead of underneath the table.

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Speaker 3: Hey, I'll tell you another similarity. Yeah, both movies have

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guys picking glass out of their feet.

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Speaker 2: That's right, Yes, that's hilarious.

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Speaker 3: Although Marv does not say all thanks being equal, he'd

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rather be in Philadelphia.

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Speaker 2: Yeah okay. And then, of course, the thing that I

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think I pointed out to you before we even like

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really started diving into this, you have two fantastic scenes

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both movies. Bad guy gets shot in the crotch.

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Speaker 3: Next time you have a chance to shoot someone, don't hesitate.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for the advice.

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Speaker 3: These movies are great. I can't wait to dive into these.

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I actually did see both of these in the theater.

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I saw A Christmas Story when I was a fifth grader.

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I have vivid memories of seeing it because it was

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one of the greatest movie watching experiences I've ever had. Okay,

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now I'm gonna say the same thing for Home Alone,

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because both times I saw this I laughed my butt off. Okay, yeah,

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potatoes was like the epitome of humor for me. Right,

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Oh my gosh, I was like hyperventilating in the movie theater.

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So I have wonderful memories of seeing these in the

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movie theater. I think I've said, I think I said

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last year The Diehard was my greatest movie watching experience.

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Speaker 2: Up there for for sure, Yeah, for sure, amazing.

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Speaker 3: All right, guys, let's take a quick break. We're going

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the very act of pursuing a career in sports can

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give you a sense of control, a sense of safety,

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so long as you stick to the plan. That is,

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until life happens. The kind of life that happens while

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you're making other plans, breakdowns insecurity, panic attacks, PTSD, addiction,

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listeners to leave with an understanding of the different varieties

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of mental health challenges people face, why they appear, and

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out Blindside. Okay, let's look back at the history and

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see how these two amazing films came to be. Okay,

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sounds good, All right, So we'll start with a Christmas story.

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It was the oldest of the two, right, yes, and

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you can see opening credits. It is based on the

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stories of Gene Shepherd. The book he had was called

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in God We Trust All Others make Cash. But really

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it's from some of those stories from that book, but

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speaking engagement that he would do from college campus to

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college campus. This guy. His whole life, he's spent in

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radio and TV doing these short stories. He's got an

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entrancing voice. You know, he's the best narrator. My gosh, yeah, absolutely.

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You know you mentioned those stories that he had published.

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You know where they typically were published, No Playboy magazine.

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Speaker 3: Nice, it doesn't seem very read.

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Speaker 2: For the articles. So one particular day in the late sixties,

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a young man named Robert Clark Bob Clark, was driving

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around his car. He was going about to go on

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a date and he catches a radio show where it's

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Gene Shepherd telling this story and he's like, what is

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this as like a kid sticking his tongue to a lighthole.

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the block and hear the rest of the story instead

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of picking up his date. So he circles the block

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and then again, and then forty five minutes later, the

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Speaker 2: So that planned the seed. Late sixties. Bob Clark is like,

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up Geene Shepherd, and Gene Shepherd's like, who are you, right, Well,

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and so not interested. Not interested, right. What happens is

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that Bob Clark keeps pressure in him, keeps wanting to

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do these movies, and continues to develop his career. He

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ends up going up to Canada, right, because it's a

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in Canada. So in the early seventies, he starts making,

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as you would expect, horror movies, right, everybody starts off

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Speaker 2: Easy, right. His first one's called Children Shouldn't Play with

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Dead Things. He's got Death Dream, He's got Black Christmas,

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and Black Christmas ends up being a pretty big hit.

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a big fish in a little pond up there in Canada.

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ended up being the source material for a TV show

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you might have heard of called The Dukes of Hazzards.

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, wow, that's fantastic.

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Speaker 2: So they he was involved with that. He's obviously you know,

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he was a part of that. In two thousand and

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rated R movie that you ever saw?

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Speaker 3: And this was the number one response. Yeah, yeah, Porky's. Yep,

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Speaker 2: D Have you seen Porky's You've never seen Porky Porkies? No, yes,

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Speaker 3: I would like my friend Mark Mingle, I was way

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too young in nineteen eighty one to see IRAA movies.

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you go. Okay. So at this point he's become pretty

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dang famous. I mean, Porky's was huge in nineteen eighty one,

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and so he's like, hey, I want to finally do

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my Jean Shepherd story of the kid who wants a

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Red Writer be Begun movie. And the studios are still like, no,

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narration is dead. We don't want to have a narrator story.

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finally he gets just a little bit of a budget

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and he says, listen, I will forego my standard director's

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fee if you'll just put a little bit more of

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the movie. And they end up making this movie for

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less than five million dollars. It's insane. Three point three

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million dollars. Released November eighteenth, nineteen eighty three. Hey, I've

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got something on Bob Clark for you. Okay, go ahead.

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Speaker 3: So Bob Clark, after he did Christmas Story, he went

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on to do the fantastic movie called Rhinestone Dolly Parton,

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So thats you're still owe a bit take He also

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did Turk one two, From the Hips and other movies

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like that.

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Speaker 2: But I will tell you this. He did From the Hip.

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Speaker 3: He did From the Hip.

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's a great one. That's that's David E Kelly's

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first script made into a movie. David E Kelly. Who

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did The Practice? Who did La Law? Who did Boston Legal?

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Who did Ally McBeal. Yeah, he's a big big time

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and Joys and yeah, nine Perfect Strangers. Yeah, so awesome.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So I got a little tidbit for you on

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Bob Clark.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay.

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Speaker 3: Bob Clark has the distinction being one of only two

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directors to have a movie on both Roger Ebert's Great

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Movies List and Most Hated List. Oh okay, Bob Clarks

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of course was christ Story is on the Greatest Movies list? Right?

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Speaker 2: Do you know the other one? I'm gonna go with

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Speaker 3: Too, Baby Geniuses.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't see that one.

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Speaker 3: Baby Geniuses, Baby Geniuses two.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Okay, it doesn't matter. They're both terrible.

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Speaker 3: You know who the other director is.

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Speaker 2: Now, Rob Bryaner Meathead. Okay, so Rob Reiner, does it

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stand by me? Or is it? Princess Bride, It's Princess Briane. Okay,

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that's the best one. What's the best one? What's the

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worst one?

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Speaker 3: North with Elijah Wood.

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Speaker 2: I haven't seen that movie. I have neither. Well, all right,

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apparently we're not missing it. Although you can't. You can't

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always know from good taste. Because Roger Ebert and Genesuskull

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both thumbs down on Home Alone.

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Speaker 3: Right, it's crazy, it is nuts.

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Speaker 2: It is nuts. They're like, it's old hired formula, right,

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Speaker 3: They didn't like it.

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Speaker 2: So wrong, so so wrong. He ends up going to

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college and then gets a scholarship to play football and

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as a quarterback. He was a scholarship quarterback in college.

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Really yeah wow. So Bob Clark finally gets to make

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his movie. It's released in nineteen eighty three. It has

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minimal success, but ultimately develops a cult following. Well, we

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know from our prior episode that a young man was

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living in an apartment near the time that a Christmas

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story came out that had little mice who would run

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across his fingers as he slept in the tenement house

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that he was in. This led to him writing a

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script for a movie about little critters that invaded a

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house that he called Grimlins.

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Speaker 3: That's right, Chris Columbus rug Grimlins, right.

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Speaker 2: So Chris Columbus gets that script in front of Steven Spielberg,

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Joe Dante is signed to direct, and Chris Columbus gets

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to come out and be a part of the production.

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You'll remember from our Grimlins episode that I said he

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was super excited about meeting White Accident, not because White

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Accident had written all of these wonderful songs because he

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was a great actor, but because his mom had written

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an incredibly famous Elvis song called Herbreak Hotel.

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Speaker 3: Yes, well, this is my mad love find a new

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place to dwell at the end of Lone Street, that

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heartbreak and Wow.

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Speaker 2: And so sure enough, a little bit later on, Chris

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Columbus gets to direct his own movie, which is what

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he wanted to do. He it's looked at as he's

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the new John Hughes. He directs this.

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Speaker 3: Movie called Adventures and Babysitting.

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Speaker 2: Adventures in Babysitting Elizabeth sho Oh my one of my

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childhood crushes, for sure. And then he goes on directs

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another movie which is.

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Speaker 3: Called Harby goes yes, and it does.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it craps the pot. It does, yeah, it does.

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Speaker 3: It does not do well at all. And he thought

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his directing career was over.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he thought of oh one and done, you know,

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like I had my chance, I got that big hit

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and then I lost it with heartbreak Hotel.

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Speaker 3: Well, it helps to have powerful friends, because John Hughes

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calling and said, I've got a project I want you

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to direct from. Yeah, and he's like, oh, fantastic. What

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is it.

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Speaker 2: It's a Christmas story about the Griswolds.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, otherwise known as Christmas Vacation.

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Speaker 1: Is that time and in time.

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Speaker 3: The body that man a timely Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So he reads the script, He's like, oh, this is great.

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I'd love to I love Christmas movies. Yes, I'd love

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to be a part of this.

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Speaker 3: So he shows up. It starts working, talking to the stars,

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and there's one particular person who became so insufferable that

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he had to.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Chevy Chase basically treated him like crap. He's like,

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you don't know what you're doing. And Chevy, We've talked

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about Chevy Chase's ability to get along with other humans,

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and Chris Columbus didn't know what to do. I mean,

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he's like he was disregarding everything. I would say, he

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didn't respect me. There was just nothing I could do.

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And he's so he calls up John Hughes and he

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doesn't even have to say the words. John Hughes is like,

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you know what, I don't think this is the right

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movie for you. I've got another one that you might

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be interested in.

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Speaker 3: It's incredible. So Chris Columbus gets a big break to

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do the National Lampoon Christmas Vacation movie. Next thing, he

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knows he's out. But John Hughes in the week gap,

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there is one week. One week he wrote two scripts yep.

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and he adds it too, Chris Columbus and says, I

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want you to direct this one.

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Speaker 2: So this part, this blew my mind. The way John

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Hughes worked. He would start writing on a Friday night

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and he would have a script finished by Sunday morning.

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Speaker 3: Like polished.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like it's done. And it's not just a script.

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It's breakfast Club, it's sixteen candles, Weir's science, I mean what.

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days and it was known like, when John Hughes showed

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up for the filming part of things, you didn't deviate

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from the script because John Hughes was like, the words

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that are perfect are the words that I wrote down,

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So you don't change those words unless you're John Candy.

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And he had so much respect for John Candy. He

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was like, just let him, let him riff and it's

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going to be gold.

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Speaker 3: You know. It's interesting because I did hear Chris Columbus

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say that when an actor deviated from the script, John

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Hughes's ear would perk up and be like, no, we're

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going to do it my way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay. So he had directed John Candy in both Planes,

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Trains and Automobiles and in Uncle Buck.

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Speaker 4: Those are two of John Candy's best roles, absolutely absolutely,

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maybe best, yeah, I mean, and he wrote The Great Outdoors,

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which is another one of John Candy's.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, crazy, Now that's interesting. He wrote movies, but he

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didn't direct them all right.

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Speaker 3: He didn't really like the directing part.

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Speaker 2: I think he liked it, okay, but he's just he

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was so prolific as a writer. I don't think he

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had time, I mean from just to hear this from

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nineteen eighty four, Here we Go nineteen eighty four, Sixteen

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Candles nineteen eighty five, The Breakfast Club nineteen eighty five,

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Weird Science nineteen eighty six, Very Dealer's Day Off nineteen

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eighty seven, Planes, Trains and Automobiles nineteen eighty eight, She's

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having a Baby nineteen eighty nine, Uncle Buck. I mean,

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in that short of a time period he was cranking

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him out. I don't think he could have possibly directed

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all of the scripts that he was writing, because he

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was busy enough directing the ones that he had.

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Speaker 3: There is not a bad movie in that list right there.

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Speaker 2: Well, the last one on the list came out in

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ninety one, and that's Curly sou Well.

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Speaker 3: The nineties were a different story for John Hughes.

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Speaker 2: It was it was a different story. We can get

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into that a little bit. Okay, So Chris Columbus comes

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on to direct this movie called Home Alone, right, yes,

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And as with all movies, you have to get a

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budget for the movie. And John Hughes calls up the

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guys at Warner Brothers and he says, hey, I got

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this movie. They're like, okay, tell us about it. And

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he says, okay, kid, at home alone. All right, how

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much ten million? If you can make that movie for

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ten million dollars, you can do it, right, And that's

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what they said. Yeah, So they go where else are

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they going to go? With the John Hughes movies, Chicago,

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Chicago Suburbs, and they set up shop. They set up

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their back lot at the same high school that they

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filmed Ferris Peeler's Day Office and Uncle Buck. It was

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called the New Trier School. The school had been shut down,

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and so they set up offices, they set up all

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of the sets and they got to work.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of interesting. So the school basically ran out

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of students. I guess the neighborhood matured and there weren't

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any young kids anymore. And so they could set up

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the art department in you know, like the math area,

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you know, and the production part in the English area,

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and they had it all kind of right there.

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Speaker 2: And they had a giant gymnasium with rafters that you

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could hang lights from. It's the perfect place for a

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back lot set up. Right now, everybody knows that beautiful

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house that they have for Kevin's family, right there's to

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all kinds of memes, like I want to know what

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Kevin's dad did for a living to be able to

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afford this out because it's gorgeous. Yes, but they only

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really did the exterior shots because the house's house. You

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can't set up and film and get all your lighting

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in a house. And so basically they recreated all of

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the important interior shots from the house in that gymnasium,

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except for when they had to do the flood scenes.

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Speaker 3: Right, the flood scenes, they had to build the house

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again in the like the empty pool in the high

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school Olympic sized pool.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if you watch the end scene, the

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wet bandits have caused flooding and the water's going everywhere,

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and they're like, how are we going to do this?

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Where's the water gonna go? And then they're wandering around

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the school and they come into a building and it's

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the old pool and they're like, it's perfect, let's just

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pour water into the house and let it hit the pool. Yeah,

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the pool's got a dream yep. Okay, so we've wandered

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into production a little bit here. Why don't we jump

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back to a Christmas story and taught casting?

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Speaker 3: Okay, So there's some interesting people that were considered for

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roles in a Christmas Story.

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Speaker 2: Right. They literally had thousands of people try out for

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the part of Ralphie Parker, right Parker. The very first

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one that tried out Peter Billingsley, right, who at the

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time was kind of an established He had been quite

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a few commercials and he was a part of this

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TV show called Real People, Right, and so, hey, here's

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a kid who's you know, he's got experience, he knows

470
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what he's doing. Seems like the obvious choice. But then

471
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they went ahead and audition several thousand other kids.

472
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Speaker 3: Anyway, they thought he was too famous to be Ralphie

473
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,480
in this movie, right, which is crazy.

474
00:24:20,599 --> 00:24:23,160
Speaker 2: You remember the Hershey Srup commercials, Right, I do, Yeah,

475
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:23,519
I do?

476
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,400
Speaker 3: Which is kind of crazy that the Oval team played such.

477
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Speaker 2: A big car right right inside joke.

478
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Speaker 3: When he gets hit in the face of a snowball,

479
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I just can't picture anybody else but those sad, giant,

480
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pale blue eyes.

481
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Speaker 2: Right. Well, the backstory on that one was it took

482
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several takes, and the guys who were throwing the snowballs

483
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had gotten pretty good at it, and so they nailed

484
00:24:48,319 --> 00:24:51,880
him hard. And so that take that he got was

485
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the one where he was literally upset and crying because

486
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,599
it hurt. He's getting I mean they it was. The

487
00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:01,319
temperatures that they were foaming in ranged from negative twenty

488
00:25:01,319 --> 00:25:06,000
four to negative twenty. It was cold. And your ball

489
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,319
hit by your fifth or sixth or seventh slush ball

490
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in the eye.

491
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Speaker 3: I'd be crying too, you know what he said when

492
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they hit him, some.

493
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Speaker 2: Of them A great moment. That's a great moment.

494
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Speaker 3: Okay, so listen to this. So Will Wheaton is one

495
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of those guys who auditioned for Ralphie. Yeah, the guy

496
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who goes on to play Gordy and stand by me. Yeah,

497
00:25:29,839 --> 00:25:34,240
and then he does the most amazing narration of Ready.

498
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:35,319
Speaker 2: Player one, Ready Player one.

499
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Speaker 3: Melinda Dillon got this part because Bob Clark liked her

500
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in Close Encounters.

501
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Speaker 2: She was top billing because of that. I mean, Darren

502
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,519
McGavin had been around for a while, but his was

503
00:25:47,559 --> 00:25:50,240
mostly TV stuff, you know, in character parts. He's in

504
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,559
the Natural two and that sort of thing. But she

505
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,279
was Melinda Dillon was the top bill.

506
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Speaker 3: Close Encounters was long ways before this. But here's the

507
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name that really blows me away. You ready for this one? Yes,

508
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,519
the old man, the person that almost became the old

509
00:26:04,559 --> 00:26:07,759
Man and wanted the part Jack Nicholson.

510
00:26:07,839 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I knew that, and it would have messed everything up.

511
00:26:11,039 --> 00:26:11,680
It really would have.

512
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Speaker 3: The Old Man is not the he's not the main character.

513
00:26:14,799 --> 00:26:18,599
Speaker 2: He is though, he is so important, but he can't

514
00:26:18,599 --> 00:26:21,400
be the guy who takes over the show. He has

515
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to be the one that is the driving train behind everything.

516
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I mean, if you look at it, it's really a

517
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,240
movie that's as much about him as anybody else. I mean,

518
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Ralphie is watching What's going On with his Dad so

519
00:26:32,319 --> 00:26:35,440
much of the time. That part was hugely important, and

520
00:26:35,519 --> 00:26:38,279
Jeane Shepherd said there were a lot of famous guys.

521
00:26:38,319 --> 00:26:40,640
I'm sure he was thinking of Jack Nicholson, but Darren

522
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:44,400
McGavin was the most important pick for that movie because

523
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he could be Dad without being somebody who's too big

524
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and trivy star to be Dad.

525
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Speaker 3: Can someone tell me what kind of a world we

526
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live in where a man has to fight his parness

527
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and the neighborhood does's awesome.

528
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Speaker 2: By the way, all of that profanity was completely ad lived,

529
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and he had a lot of trouble not saying actual

530
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profane words because they wanted a PG rating.

531
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Speaker 3: So can this happened in both movies that sort of

532
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,920
cartoon gibberish that they hit yep in a Christmas store.

533
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:21,559
Dad Joe Peschi has to do the same thing, and Homeo.

534
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 2: Joe Peshi was mad about the script. He like, comes,

535
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,839
He's like, I can't do the script, and why not

536
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,319
he goes, because there's no f's in here, And I'm

537
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,160
like what He's like, Listen, that's just how I talk, man,

538
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,200
I mean he did. I wouldn't say, you know, hi,

539
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:40,279
missus Johnson, how you doing. I'd say, hi, missus e

540
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,920
fing Johnson, how's your effing dad? Right?

541
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Speaker 3: You told me that he that's how you read scripts.

542
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If there's missing F words.

543
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, he reads them anyway. Yeah, he puts them in himself.

544
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:53,519
And so I think what he did with this one

545
00:27:53,599 --> 00:27:55,039
is he had to put them in and then take

546
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them back out. So you see him wentz a few

547
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,640
times before a few things. He's trying not to say

548
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:01,119
the ball.

549
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Speaker 3: When he says shoot, he says shoot. It is the

550
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,359
most forced non cuss word you've ever seen.

551
00:28:10,319 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 2: That's hilarious.

552
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 3: I do think the cartoon profanity, you know, the Looney

553
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,440
Tunes like language that shows up in both of these movies.

554
00:28:18,839 --> 00:28:20,599
Was super funny to me as a kid, and it's

555
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,519
still endearing as an adult.

556
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Speaker 2: Absolutely.

557
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Speaker 3: I love that I can watch all of these movies

558
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at any time with my kids.

559
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,880
Speaker 2: So one of the other kids that auditioned for the

560
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part was a kid named Scott Schwartz who had come

561
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out with a movie just before this called The Toy

562
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:43,240
mm hmm with mister Richard pryor mister Jackie Gleeson. I mean,

563
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I watched The Toy all the time when I was

564
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a kid.

565
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,079
Speaker 3: It's Richard Donner directed it.

566
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a great movie. I mean I think it was.

567
00:28:49,759 --> 00:28:51,319
It was great back in the eighties when I was

568
00:28:51,359 --> 00:28:55,200
watching it. Yet, I mean, you remember the painting scene right. Anyway,

569
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So he was he'd been in hundreds of commercials, He's

570
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been in this movie where he's the main title character,

571
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and then he auditions for this part. And it's not

572
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,279
really even an audition it is it is. He goes

573
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to meet Bob Clark and Bob Clark's just talking to him,

574
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and Bob Clark says, you know what, had I missed

575
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:15,960
lunch today? You want to go there? I abb a

576
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,960
hot dog? And he's like, yeah, I love hot dogs.

577
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:20,240
You know he's a kid. Of course, that's what he's

578
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,920
gonna say, right, So they go downstairs, they have a

579
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,039
hot dog. They go back upstairs and he's like, you know,

580
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Scott has wondered, wonderful to meet you. I have a

581
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,480
great day. I look forward to talking to you again soon.

582
00:29:29,759 --> 00:29:32,720
And so Scott leaves walks back to his agent's office

583
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with his dad seven minutes away. I mean that's literally

584
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,559
like down the street. They walk in, she's like, what'd

585
00:29:39,559 --> 00:29:42,480
you do? And they said what do you mean? And

586
00:29:42,519 --> 00:29:44,279
she goes, well, you did something right because you got

587
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the part. And he's like, we had a hot dog.

588
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I mean that was it.

589
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Speaker 3: Wow.

590
00:29:48,799 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 2: But when they send him the script, there's no name

591
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on it. He doesn't know that he's playing Flick. He

592
00:29:55,119 --> 00:29:58,359
just gets a script and so he's thinking, well, I've

593
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,599
just done this big movie. And so first thing he

594
00:30:01,599 --> 00:30:03,680
does is he goes and counts all the lines. Of course,

595
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,960
that's what you do when you're a kid, right, And

596
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so he counts all of Ralfie's lines, thinking he's going

597
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,559
to be Ralphie. Well, they show up and Bob Clark

598
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:15,960
is like, all right, uh, Peter, you're gonna be Ralphie, Scott,

599
00:30:16,119 --> 00:30:20,160
you're going to be flick rd, You'll be Schwartz. And

600
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so he's like, ah, so I'm not Ralphie, and I'm

601
00:30:24,119 --> 00:30:27,160
not even Schwartz, even though my name is Schwartz. Yeah, really,

602
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,039
I'm flick Okay, well all right, and he goes through

603
00:30:30,079 --> 00:30:31,279
and he looks at it. He's like, well, at least

604
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you get to stick my tongue with the pole.

605
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Speaker 3: That, you know. Scott Schwartz went on to have sort

606
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of a rough nineties and early two thousands.

607
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Speaker 2: It's a colorful career. Yeah.

608
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was acting.

609
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Speaker 2: Here's a guy from Jersey doing what he can to

610
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:47,559
make the ends meet. Oh my gosh.

611
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Speaker 3: He did some of the some of the doubling.

612
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Speaker 2: I haven't seen any of this. No, he's doing much better.

613
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Speaker 3: One other things I want to mention Teddy Moore, who

614
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plays Miss Shields.

615
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Speaker 2: Yes, she was eight.

616
00:30:58,799 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 3: Months pregnant when they filmed this. Oh wow, okay, So

617
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,880
in order for her to be Miss Shields, they didn't

618
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,480
want to show an unmarried mother in the late thirties

619
00:31:08,519 --> 00:31:11,680
early forties, right, And so what they did is they

620
00:31:11,799 --> 00:31:14,079
just bowled her up and made her chunky.

621
00:31:14,279 --> 00:31:18,039
Speaker 2: So she wasn't that heavy. Not she's not big. Oh wow,

622
00:31:18,559 --> 00:31:21,440
that is that's crazy. Okay, so that's a Christmas story.

623
00:31:21,559 --> 00:31:28,759
Let's move on to casting for Home Alone talking around

624
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:30,519
Christmas tree.

625
00:31:30,599 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 1: And Christmas.

626
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 2: Right now. I know, as we mentioned, John Hughes had

627
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:42,240
directed Uncle Buck and had this young star in Uncle

628
00:31:42,279 --> 00:31:44,440
Buck who's really kind of a side character, but he

629
00:31:44,519 --> 00:31:48,319
really did some amazing work with John Candy kid named

630
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,319
Macaulay Culkin, and so he thinks, I wonder if I

631
00:31:51,319 --> 00:31:54,440
could write a movie with a nine year old as

632
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,319
the main character, right, And that really is how the

633
00:31:57,359 --> 00:31:58,880
script for Home Alone came to be.

634
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,319
Speaker 3: So there's two from Uncle Buck that got us Home

635
00:32:02,359 --> 00:32:05,000
Alone and got us specifically Mcaulay Culker.

636
00:32:05,119 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay.

637
00:32:06,119 --> 00:32:08,519
Speaker 3: So there's the scene at the beginning with John Candy

638
00:32:08,839 --> 00:32:10,559
when he's quizzing with questions.

639
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,519
Speaker 2: Fantastic scene. Where do you live in the city? You

640
00:32:13,559 --> 00:32:16,279
have a house, apartment rent? What do you do for

641
00:32:16,319 --> 00:32:19,319
a living? Lots of things. I don't have one. How

642
00:32:19,359 --> 00:32:21,680
come I don't need one? Don't have one?

643
00:32:21,799 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 3: How come?

644
00:32:22,279 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 2: It's a long story. You have kids? No, I don't come.

645
00:32:25,039 --> 00:32:27,759
It's an even longer story. My dad's brother. What's your

646
00:32:27,799 --> 00:32:31,799
record for consecutive questions asked, I'm your dad's brother. All right,

647
00:32:32,079 --> 00:32:34,119
you have much more hair in your knows of my dad.

648
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,160
How nice of you to notice I'm a kid. That's

649
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:36,599
my job.

650
00:32:36,799 --> 00:32:39,079
Speaker 3: You got much more hair on your nose than my dad.

651
00:32:39,799 --> 00:32:41,200
How do I see you to notice I'm a kid,

652
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,039
that's my job, right right, laugh out loud moment and

653
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:48,000
Uncle Buck. But then there's a scene where Uncle Buck

654
00:32:48,079 --> 00:32:50,160
has to go chase after the oldest daughter in the

655
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,480
family and he has to leave the kids there at

656
00:32:52,519 --> 00:32:57,240
home until Shenise can come over home alone. He's home alone. Oh,

657
00:32:57,559 --> 00:33:00,359
he's home alone. And there's a funny scene where he's

658
00:33:00,359 --> 00:33:02,519
sitting right by the door and he's talking to her

659
00:33:02,519 --> 00:33:05,079
through the mailshoot. Yeah, it's super cute, and he asked

660
00:33:05,079 --> 00:33:07,519
her to get her license out so he can verify

661
00:33:07,559 --> 00:33:11,400
this her and he actually peeks out the mail shoot

662
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,200
at one point and sees three bad guys. It's like,

663
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:20,119
it's really cute. That scene gave us home along. Yeah,

664
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,759
it's incredible, it's great. So you're right. Mcaulay culkin was

665
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:27,839
the one and really only Kevin mcollister, right. John Hughes

666
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:31,039
wanted him, but they did bring in other people to

667
00:33:31,119 --> 00:33:33,559
look at right, Okay, Well, in fact, the kid who

668
00:33:33,599 --> 00:33:39,200
played the neighbor, the neighbor, yeah right, what's the gas

669
00:33:39,279 --> 00:33:42,759
mileage on this car? Nicole in France?

670
00:33:42,839 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 2: Right now?

671
00:33:43,599 --> 00:33:46,559
Speaker 3: That kid auditioned for the role of Kevin mcows.

672
00:33:46,839 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 2: So I saw that kid, and I'm like, I know

673
00:33:49,039 --> 00:33:52,079
that kid from somewhere. It's Overboard. He's one of the

674
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:53,680
three sons in Overboard.

675
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:57,839
Speaker 3: Well of the kids gets poison Ivy Yes, all right,

676
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:03,559
Mitch Murphy, Jeffrey Wise, okay, now, then Harry and Marv right, okay,

677
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:08,400
big list here. So Marv was like the sidekick to

678
00:34:08,559 --> 00:34:12,440
Joe Peshi's character, right right, Christopher Lloyd was looked at

679
00:34:12,679 --> 00:34:13,320
to be Marv.

680
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,639
Speaker 2: I can see that Tim Robbins was considered to be

681
00:34:15,639 --> 00:34:16,360
the role of Marv.

682
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,199
Speaker 3: I can also see that you need him tall and

683
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,239
skinny to Joe Pesci's sort of ye short and plump.

684
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,639
Speaker 2: It's the whole thumb pinky theory.

685
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 3: The thumb pinky theory.

686
00:34:26,559 --> 00:34:29,519
Speaker 2: Give credit to my roommate in college, Clay Yoakum, for

687
00:34:29,559 --> 00:34:32,400
that one. I was you see how many times you've

688
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,280
got a short, fat guy next to a tall, thin

689
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,079
guysh thumb pinky theory.

690
00:34:36,679 --> 00:34:41,039
Speaker 3: So that role eventually went to a guy named Daniel Roebuck. Roebuck,

691
00:34:41,519 --> 00:34:44,880
not Stern, not Stern. We'll come back to Daniel Roebuck. Okay,

692
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:48,440
So Harry, he's the main burglar. He's like the lead burglar.

693
00:34:48,519 --> 00:34:50,239
This is Joe Peshi's.

694
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 2: Character, right, Okay, So here are the names.

695
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:52,519
Speaker 3: You ready for this?

696
00:34:52,679 --> 00:34:53,559
Speaker 2: Yep? Okay?

697
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:58,679
Speaker 3: We are talking about John Lovett's Rowan Atkinson, Bob Hoskins,

698
00:34:59,079 --> 00:34:59,920
Danny de Vita.

699
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, all short and plump. Robert de Niro, Am I wrong?

700
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,679
Speaker 5: Robert de Niro is a little too tall, I think, right,

701
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,840
Kevin Pollock, that's right, Yeah, because Chris Columbus loved Raging

702
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,280
Bull and so he wanted Robert de Niro and then

703
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,559
was like, now, but what's jokees she doing?

704
00:35:15,639 --> 00:35:15,760
Speaker 3: Right?

705
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 4: Yeah?

706
00:35:16,119 --> 00:35:17,199
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah?

707
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 3: Here are the two names that blew me away though, Okay,

708
00:35:19,519 --> 00:35:30,639
for the role of Harry Dudley Moore okay and Phil Collins.

709
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,159
Speaker 2: Honestly, I can see both of those. I could see

710
00:35:35,199 --> 00:35:38,400
it with the little British accent and the silliness. And

711
00:35:38,599 --> 00:35:40,760
you know, Phil Collins was a buster, I guess, so

712
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:41,360
who knows?

713
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,760
Speaker 3: Maybe? Okay, all right, we want to talk about the

714
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:44,719
McAllister's real quick.

715
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:45,559
Speaker 2: Sure, all right.

716
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 3: Kate McAllister, the casting director, had been involved with Beetlejuice,

717
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,880
So she loved Katherine Ohara, right, and she knew she

718
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,920
was super funny, yes, and so she was kind of

719
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,440
a shoe in. But the one name that they consider Christy.

720
00:35:59,199 --> 00:36:03,079
Speaker 2: Ally hmm okay, two pretty back in nineteen ninety eight.

721
00:36:03,199 --> 00:36:05,840
She's kind of a babe. Yeah, yeah, not mom material

722
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:07,360
at that point, I think.

723
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 3: Could you see Christy Elliott cab.

724
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,119
Speaker 2: Maybe? Okay? Yeah.

725
00:36:12,159 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 3: So then the next role to Phill is Peter McAllister,

726
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:16,559
that's the dad.

727
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

728
00:36:17,079 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 3: That role went to John Hurt, which you mentioned Black

729
00:36:20,039 --> 00:36:23,880
Christmas a few minutes ago, starring Margot Kidder, also the

730
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,760
star of Superman one, two, three, four. Margot Kidder and

731
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:31,599
John Hurd were married in the seventies. Oh yeah, that's right,

732
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:38,679
for a glorious six days. Okay, all right, he figured

733
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,800
out she was nutso and less than a week. Yeah,

734
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,440
So anyway, I thought that was fine. Okay, so that

735
00:36:45,599 --> 00:36:48,239
role considered for the people. I mean, you've got big

736
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:52,239
names like Michael Douglas, Kevin Costner, Martin Sheen, dan Ackroyd,

737
00:36:52,519 --> 00:36:55,719
Charles Groden who ended up playing the old Man in

738
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:59,199
the sequel to A Christmas Story, Johne Trivolt, Tom Scarrett,

739
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,239
I mean, these his name Steve Martin.

740
00:37:01,559 --> 00:37:04,320
Speaker 2: But here's the problem. As we mentioned before, this movie

741
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,599
had to get made for ten million dollars. We couldn't

742
00:37:07,639 --> 00:37:09,400
have a movie that had these guys in it. They

743
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,079
were too expensive. And at this point, Joe Peschi was

744
00:37:12,159 --> 00:37:15,840
not that expensive, and Daniel Roebuck Daniel Roebuck. But the

745
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:20,119
chemistry between Daniel Roebuck and Joe Peschi was not good.

746
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 3: Okay, So here's the deal with that. Yeah, they Joe

747
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,440
Peshi went to the producers. He's like, I don't think

748
00:37:25,559 --> 00:37:28,880
chemistry's there with this guy. They had shot one scene.

749
00:37:29,119 --> 00:37:32,519
They hadn't really worked together, right, Daniel Roebuck is still

750
00:37:32,679 --> 00:37:34,239
bitter about this whole process.

751
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:35,800
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and who wouldn't be, right.

752
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,199
Speaker 3: I mean, it's one of the biggest hits of the decade.

753
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 2: And Daniel Stern had quit. He quits.

754
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,280
Speaker 3: Okay, we need to talk about that, okay, Yo. Daniel

755
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,679
Stern was hired for six weeks with the work yep,

756
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:50,280
and then they came back to and they said, well,

757
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,800
it's going to be eight weeks huh. He's like, okay,

758
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:54,960
no problem. So do I get paid for eight weeks

759
00:37:55,039 --> 00:37:57,559
or just still six weeks? And they're like, no, just

760
00:37:57,599 --> 00:37:59,360
six weeks. He's like, well that's bull crap. I'm not

761
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,360
working for eight on six weeks worth of pay?

762
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 2: Right, So he quit, he quit, he bailed. You almost

763
00:38:05,039 --> 00:38:07,480
didn't have Daniel Stern in this movie.

764
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,679
Speaker 3: Every time I see Daniel Stern, I see an iron

765
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:12,079
imprint on his face, you know.

766
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 2: But fortunately he wised up.

767
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 3: So when they let go of Daniel Roebuck, they called

768
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,400
Daniel Stern and Diniel Starn Is like, ah man, yeah,

769
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:21,159
no problem.

770
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:22,280
Speaker 2: Let's let's do this right.

771
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,199
Speaker 3: Just a couple more tidbits for you. The role of

772
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,119
Uncle Frank, the jerk uncle.

773
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, look what you did, you little jerk.

774
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:35,599
Speaker 3: So something interesting was I found out he was originally

775
00:38:35,679 --> 00:38:39,239
written to be the master villain behind this whole home

776
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:44,480
invasion plot. The original script had him as the guy

777
00:38:44,559 --> 00:38:48,360
that was bringing these burglars in and setting the whole

778
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:52,480
thing in motion. Wow, so we hate him anyway. Yeah,

779
00:38:52,519 --> 00:38:54,760
so that role was written for Kelsey Grammer.

780
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 2: Really, Kelsey Grammer. Okay, that's interesting, okay.

781
00:38:58,159 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 3: All right, cool, kind of interesting. And the only other

782
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,400
thing I want to mention is Kevin's cousin Fuller, the

783
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,880
one he's worried about wedding the bed. That's his actual brother,

784
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:11,159
Karen Culkin, right, who played Ralphie in the sequel to

785
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:12,000
Christmas Story.

786
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, what was that called a Summer Story? Yeah? Right,

787
00:39:15,559 --> 00:39:18,039
they had a few. Yeah, they had a few sequels,

788
00:39:18,039 --> 00:39:21,119
and they even had a Christmas Story two.

789
00:39:21,639 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 3: I wanted to watch this before we came in here.

790
00:39:24,039 --> 00:39:26,199
Speaker 2: I put it on you. I texted you, and you

791
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:30,039
challenged me. This movie exists. You watch every crappy movie

792
00:39:30,079 --> 00:39:32,800
that is somehow related to a movie you watched under

793
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:34,800
the Cherry Moon. I watched it on the Cherry Moon.

794
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 3: I could barely make it through the trailer of Christmas

795
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:38,679
Story Part two.

796
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:42,119
Speaker 2: Right. It is one of the worst rated movies I've

797
00:39:42,159 --> 00:39:45,639
ever seen, Like it's like a one point five or

798
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:49,280
four or something on IMDb. They don't get that bad.

799
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,239
I mean you can't rate it as zero. That means

800
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,559
everybody rates it a one. Yeah, you had one guy

801
00:39:53,559 --> 00:39:56,440
out there who put two And do you know who

802
00:39:56,440 --> 00:40:00,679
plays the dad in that movie? Who? Daniel Stern? So

803
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,719
there you go, there's our crossover Wow, there's our bridge.

804
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:07,519
Speaker 3: That is awesome. One more quick thing. Yes, Alan Rickman

805
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:09,960
was considered for the role of Harry.

806
00:40:10,199 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 2: Wow.

807
00:40:11,079 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 3: Alan Rickman, who played of course, Hans Hans Kruber in

808
00:40:15,039 --> 00:40:20,039
die Hard, who also starred McCaulay Culkin's aunt Bonnie Badelia,

809
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,159
who played Holly freaking Gennaro.

810
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:27,159
Speaker 2: There you go, all ties together. Okay, let's move into production. Okay.

811
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:32,599
So these masterful movies are Seeing Gold followed by Seeing Gold.

812
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:36,360
I mean they just don't really There are no throwaway parts.

813
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,760
You don't walk away unless it's you know, you know

814
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:40,760
you're gonna catch it again in the next two hours

815
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:44,199
because it's Christmas Day and it's on TNT. But it

816
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:48,039
is solid gold from beginning to end on both of

817
00:40:48,079 --> 00:40:52,320
these movies, right, without question, one of the most memorable

818
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:56,559
scenes in a Christmas story is sticking the tongue to

819
00:40:56,639 --> 00:41:02,000
the pole. I g God, Darien, right it is okay.

820
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,320
So the way that they worked that out, the special

821
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,119
effects way that they worked it out. Remember this is

822
00:41:06,159 --> 00:41:08,960
a low budget movie. They hooked up a vacuum cleaner.

823
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,079
They hooked up a vacuum into a pole, right and

824
00:41:12,119 --> 00:41:14,000
painted it. And you see he always comes in from

825
00:41:14,039 --> 00:41:17,000
the side and there's a little tiny hole that they

826
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,320
had in this pole, and so the vacuum would start

827
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:21,840
and the suction would pull that tongue, so he could

828
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,400
actually pull away and his tongue would stay stuck. Well,

829
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,480
it's the first time they've ever tried something like this.

830
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,280
So the first time that they did it, it literally

831
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,280
sucked his face onto the pole. Now you put his

832
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,559
tongue on it, it sucked his whole mouth in like oh,

833
00:41:34,639 --> 00:41:37,519
turned off, off, turn off, And so they reduced the

834
00:41:37,559 --> 00:41:39,639
power a little bit, got it to where just his

835
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:43,320
tongue would stick on there, and then they filmed it,

836
00:41:43,599 --> 00:41:46,920
and it took twelve and a half hours to film

837
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:50,599
that scene. What they were filming in the cold, I mean,

838
00:41:50,599 --> 00:41:53,519
I told you negative twenty four to negative twenty is

839
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,679
where we were. You can see the kid's breath. Yes,

840
00:41:57,039 --> 00:42:00,440
they were wearing period clothing, so there was no lining

841
00:42:00,519 --> 00:42:03,480
in the gloves. I mean, they had little electric socks

842
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,440
and electric warmers that they stuck on them. But these

843
00:42:05,519 --> 00:42:08,199
kids were freezing their butts off. And he had to

844
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,280
shoot for twelve and a half hours.

845
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:10,559
Speaker 3: Wow.

846
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 2: Then they take the film and they underdevelop it and

847
00:42:15,039 --> 00:42:17,719
he has to call him back and say, Scott, we

848
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:21,719
gotta shoot that scene again, and he's like, so got

849
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:23,800
good news you get to film some more and bad

850
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:27,039
news it's and so they really improved, and the second

851
00:42:27,079 --> 00:42:29,360
time they shot it, they got it done in eleven

852
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,519
and a half hours. Oh my gosh. And at one point,

853
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,840
no kidding, they broke for lunch and as a joke,

854
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,400
all of the other actors left and he was still

855
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,440
stuck to the hole and he's like, wait, guys waiting there.

856
00:42:41,639 --> 00:42:45,519
Speaker 3: Just leave you guys, come back, don't hear me.

857
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 2: I've always wondered.

858
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,280
Speaker 3: How that worked, because it's clear as day that his

859
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,800
tongue is stuck to that bowlt Oh yeah, you know,

860
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,079
but you're right. You never see it straight on.

861
00:42:55,079 --> 00:42:57,639
Speaker 2: It's always to the side, right, arms a flailing.

862
00:42:58,119 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 3: That scene is so funny when the teacher is like,

863
00:43:00,559 --> 00:43:05,719
where's Flick and they're like flick, flick who and then

864
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:07,480
she comes back and gives them the guilt trip.

865
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 2: Adults always the same that stuff, but kids know it's

866
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:11,880
always better not to keep.

867
00:43:12,079 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 3: I'm sure the guilt you feel it's far worse than

868
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,400
any punishment. Yeah, I love that. That scene so funny.

869
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,480
Let's talk about Scott Fargas for a second.

870
00:43:21,519 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, it's not Scott. I thought it was Scott

871
00:43:25,079 --> 00:43:26,800
for the longest time. I also thought it was Scott.

872
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:30,079
But it's Scott with a U. Yes, yes, Farcas, so

873
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,199
help me. Yellow eyes.

874
00:43:32,679 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 3: I love that that line. He does not have yellow eyes.

875
00:43:35,159 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 2: No, but people are sure that he does. People will

876
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,599
meet him on the street and they're like, I remember

877
00:43:39,639 --> 00:43:43,360
your yellow eyes. He's like, right, I remember it.

878
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 3: Okay, then what a great bully though, you know, oh fantastic.

879
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,519
And he's got he's got that laugh and they like

880
00:43:50,599 --> 00:43:51,880
freeze on their tracks.

881
00:43:51,599 --> 00:43:54,679
Speaker 2: You know. I gotta I gotta say that moment is

882
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,480
the top moment in the whole movie for me, because

883
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:02,079
it is, like, it's so emotionally packed. Ralphie has just

884
00:44:02,159 --> 00:44:05,119
gotten his C plus on the theme that he thought

885
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,440
he was going to get an A plus plus plus

886
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,960
plus plus, even with his bribe of the big basket

887
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:14,800
of fruit. He still gets a C plus C plus.

888
00:44:16,559 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 3: Plus.

889
00:44:17,079 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. Shoot, So he's absolutely devastated walking home alone, doesn't

890
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,119
even bother to walk home with his friends, and gets

891
00:44:25,199 --> 00:44:27,639
that snowball in the face. And he's the only kid

892
00:44:27,639 --> 00:44:30,800
that we don't actually see bullied, like they get Schwartz,

893
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,800
they get Flick, but you don't see this, but it's

894
00:44:34,079 --> 00:44:37,920
that moment. The tears are true and real and the

895
00:44:38,079 --> 00:44:42,119
rage is real, and you see him give it back

896
00:44:42,159 --> 00:44:46,800
to a bully, and I mean like heartstrings. I'm like, ye,

897
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:51,079
give it him back, and then get Ralphie. And then

898
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,960
when you think that the dad is going to destroy him,

899
00:44:54,639 --> 00:44:56,159
Dad's gonna killed Ralphie.

900
00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,760
Speaker 3: Daddy will not kill Ralphie.

901
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:03,280
Speaker 2: And the mom so subtly O Ralphie got in a

902
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:06,360
fight today. What oh I saw that the bears and

903
00:45:06,519 --> 00:45:09,280
points it out, gives him the light touch things for

904
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:10,519
different between me and mom.

905
00:45:10,559 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 3: After that, Yeah, great scene.

906
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 2: I love it.

907
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,159
Speaker 3: I want to point out something else to Okay, let's

908
00:45:15,199 --> 00:45:19,400
give it up for our man Flick, who sacrifices himself

909
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,480
for the best betterment of the of the group.

910
00:45:22,599 --> 00:45:23,280
Speaker 2: Right.

911
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 3: They're like, you come here, and he's like uncle, uncle,

912
00:45:27,519 --> 00:45:32,719
uncle uncle, He's already saying right, and poor Randy's laying

913
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:33,480
there like a slug.

914
00:45:33,519 --> 00:45:33,679
Speaker 2: You know.

915
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 3: They go grab him and get up and they but yeah,

916
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:42,440
f Flinn comes to the rescue of everybody else. I

917
00:45:42,519 --> 00:45:45,800
was going to mention one other thing about the tongue

918
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,559
the tongue pole thing. So because of this scene, a

919
00:45:49,639 --> 00:45:53,000
bunch of kids tried this and learns a hard way

920
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:57,480
that this really works. Your tongue will stick to railroad ties,

921
00:45:57,679 --> 00:46:00,880
to light poles too, if it's cold enough. You're doug sticking.

922
00:46:01,079 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't try this.

923
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:02,320
Speaker 3: At home, kid.

924
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,039
Speaker 2: You didn't learn it from a Christmas story. You should

925
00:46:04,039 --> 00:46:05,480
have learned it from dumb and dumber.

926
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,800
Speaker 3: Somebody called the fire department dummer.

927
00:46:09,199 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 2: Oh, look snow, this movie, as much as it is

928
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:18,440
little vignettes that are strung together by the idea that

929
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,239
this needs to you know, that he has to get

930
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,480
this red rider be begun. You've got a little orphan

931
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:25,960
Annie and the Dakota pen drink be sure and drink

932
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:30,960
your ovaltine. And you've got the lamp, and you've got

933
00:46:31,079 --> 00:46:37,960
the changing of the tire. Oh, FuG I didn't say fudge.

934
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:42,159
All of these brilliant little vignettes that lead along. But

935
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it's all really about his relationship with his dad, and

936
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his dad who seems to not care unless the kids

937
00:46:49,679 --> 00:46:53,760
are annoying him, you know, and is always frustrated and angry.

938
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And then in the end he's the one who surprises

939
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him and mom by getting in the red Rider. He's

940
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been listening the whole time. He's the only one that

941
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he didn't ask right. He never asked his dad right.

942
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He yesked Sanna, he asked his teacher, he asked his

943
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mom right. He even snuck the advertisement inside the Life

944
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magazine to catch you unaware. Dad comes through.

945
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Speaker 3: Yeah, love it? Okay, d We've got a surely showcase

946
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this week from one of my best buddies from high school.

947
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His name's Chris Bauer. We used to call him Bomber

948
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:25,599
all the time. He got me in trouble all the

949
00:47:25,639 --> 00:47:27,639
time in Sunday School. He's one of those guys that

950
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could make me laugh. I mean, I just cracked me

951
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:31,119
up all the time.

952
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Speaker 2: Is this a guy that like hit you in the

953
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,039
head with the cassette tape? Yes?

954
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Speaker 3: Yes, same guy.

955
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Speaker 2: Yes, okay, in the middle of New.

956
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:41,519
Speaker 3: Mexico, I'm in asleep and he whacked me in the

957
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forehead with the ACDC back in black tape.

958
00:47:43,679 --> 00:47:46,199
Speaker 2: Yes, there you go. The worth of pain.

959
00:47:46,599 --> 00:47:50,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, that's right. Well, here's what he had

960
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,639
to say. He's weighing in on young guns, young guns too,

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and Tombstone. The episode we did here in September October.

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Speaker 6: Hey guys, it's Chris Bauer or is Jason refers to

963
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me as Bomber. I'm here to give my final judgment

964
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on the Tombstone Young Guns Young Guns two podcasts. I'm

965
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judging these movies on three criteria or abilities, rewatchability, quotability,

966
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and overall entertainability, which includes two important subabilities, recommendability and pausibility.

967
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On rewatchability, this is a dead heat between Tombstone and

968
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Young Guns. Either of these comes on and I'm busy

969
00:48:28,039 --> 00:48:30,679
for the next hour forty seven minutes to two hours

970
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and ten minutes yep. For Young Guns two, I'm surfing

971
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my way through the channel guide and coming back to

972
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it if I don't find anything else. Next quotability. All

973
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three are filled with great one liners and phrases, but

974
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I had to narrow this down to those I regularly

975
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drop on my wife and kids. While Junior, you beck

976
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,199
that queen again, and I'll blow you straight up. That

977
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:56,599
Wildcat's Aresh is poetic Hall of Fame material. It doesn't

978
00:48:56,639 --> 00:48:59,880
mesh well in everyday scenarios like We've come to a

979
00:49:00,079 --> 00:49:02,920
place where an Indian is lost, and when an Indian

980
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:06,719
is lost he turns to the spirit world does, which

981
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,679
I have used on many occasions, such as walking into

982
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Costco or listening to my daughter tell me what happened

983
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at school that day. So for this ability, the Belted

984
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,760
Earl has spoken, and I'm giving it to Young Guns,

985
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with Tombstone and Young Guns Too coming in a very

986
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:27,920
close second. And third, finally, entertainability. Like I said earlier,

987
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this one includes two other very important abilities, recommendability and pausibility.

988
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All three on their own are what I consider entertaining,

989
00:49:37,519 --> 00:49:41,639
and recommendability is high for all of them. As for pausibility,

990
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,079
I could leave Young Guns Too at any point and

991
00:49:44,119 --> 00:49:46,719
go do whatever errand or chores required of me at

992
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:50,400
that time and be okay. With Tombstone, I would probably

993
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:53,000
have to wait until the Wyatt and Josie horse chase

994
00:49:53,079 --> 00:49:55,840
scene or any of the Wyatt and Mattie scenes to

995
00:49:55,960 --> 00:50:00,159
pause and tend to my obligations. But Young Guns, it's

996
00:50:00,159 --> 00:50:02,920
only one hundred and forty seven minutes, and when whatever

997
00:50:03,079 --> 00:50:05,960
is required of me rears its ugly head, I'm probably

998
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:09,480
twenty to sixty minutes into the movie already anyway, so

999
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he can wait until I watch Murphy reap the whirlwind

1000
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and hear Doc say the epitaph read only one word pals.

1001
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So with all that being said, my final judgment goes

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Young Guns number one, followed almost instantly by Tombstone in second,

1003
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and Young Guns Number two being the red ass Mexican

1004
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,760
greaser who does it with his horse. Thanks guys for

1005
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:36,440
putting on a great podcast which I look forward to

1006
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every week. And buenos tardes amigos.

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Speaker 2: All right, that was hilarious. That was awesome. I absolutely

1008
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love that take. I obviously I disagree and I put

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Tombstone one, but I cannot fault him for his logic.

1010
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Those love scenes are a big, ugly I sore in

1011
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:03,400
the middle of an otherwise perfect movie.

1012
00:51:03,559 --> 00:51:05,519
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think he and I saw Young Uns two

1013
00:51:05,519 --> 00:51:08,679
in the theater together, and nice, I think we were

1014
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:12,079
actually kind of singing Blaze of Glory in the closing credits.

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Speaker 2: So awesome.

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Speaker 3: Chris, Thanks so much man. Always good to hear from you.

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And stay out of trouble.

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Speaker 2: Okay, thanks Chris.

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00:51:18,119 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 3: Okay, So that's gonna do it for part one of

1020
00:51:20,519 --> 00:51:23,039
our Home Alone versus a Christmas Story episode, and I

1021
00:51:23,079 --> 00:51:25,880
think we're actually gonna drop our second or part two

1022
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:27,800
of this not not a full week away.

1023
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Speaker 2: No, we're gonna we're gonna try to get it up

1024
00:51:29,599 --> 00:51:31,000
here in a couple of days so that we get

1025
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it in before Christmas. You guys, be sure and hit

1026
00:51:33,199 --> 00:51:35,679
subscribe or follow if you haven't already, so that you

1027
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:39,760
catch that second part of this episode and Merry Christmas,

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00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:41,199
Merry Christmas.