Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, aj Benzi here with fame is a bitch.
Speaker 1: It's October tenth, twenty.
Speaker 2: Twenty four, ten ten, two oh two four.
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Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, listen.
Speaker 1: I'm down here in Boca Raton. I am waiting on
Speaker 1: Hurricane Milton to land. It's now a Wednesday afternoon evening,
Speaker 1: five point thirty pm East coast time. There are some
Speaker 1: tornadoes dropping down in my area of Boca and West
Speaker 1: Palm Beach and what have you. It's getting kind of
Speaker 1: hairy out. The wind is whipping up. I know the
Speaker 1: west coast of Florida is gonna take the brunt of it.
Speaker 1: And unfortunately we're gonna see a different coastline than we've
Speaker 1: ever seen.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Once this thing is coming gone, It's very sad. Our
Speaker 1: government has completely dropped the ball and this is the
Speaker 1: shape we're in. Can't help Americans, but all the illegal
Speaker 1: migrants are doing great.
Speaker 2: Boy.
Speaker 1: They got cash cards of many thousands of dollars to use.
Speaker 1: They've got luxury hotels to live in, even apartment complexes
Speaker 1: to take over with their machetes. Yeah, the Brazilian gangs,
Speaker 1: they're doing well. They're just opening doors and apartment complexes,
Speaker 1: putting a machete to the landlord's throat and what do
Speaker 1: you know, he hands over the keys and then people
Speaker 1: get thrown out. Americans get thrown out, regular tax paying
Speaker 1: citizens get thrown out on their ass and illegal migrants
Speaker 1: get to live in there for free. Our government has
Speaker 1: so much money to give them, and so much money
Speaker 1: to send to Ukraine, so much money to send to Iran,
Speaker 1: who then takes the money and buys the bombs and
Speaker 1: bombs are allies. I mean, it's great we're doing the
Speaker 1: system is great. What a bunch of horseshit. This is
Speaker 1: what we're going through, and the government can't help to people.
Speaker 1: There are still dead bodies floating in waterways up in
Speaker 1: North Carolina, Georgia, what have you. It is in a
Speaker 1: couple other states. It's just it's not America. If they
Speaker 1: say to you, we're broke, we can't help you. FEMA's
Speaker 1: got no more money in their budget. But yeah, sure
Speaker 1: we can pay off every college loan, Oh, no problem.
Speaker 1: And those people coming from all these far flung shitholes.
Speaker 1: Let them in and give them money, give them a
Speaker 1: place to give them food, give them licenses, and you
Speaker 1: know what, let them vote.
Speaker 2: Let them vote.
Speaker 1: It's a disgrace what's going on anyhow, That's what's happening here.
Speaker 1: I mean my buddy's condo. There's a lot of echoing here.
Speaker 1: It's a big room. I'm overlooking the inter coastal. I
Speaker 1: can't complain. Even with the hurricane about to hit and
Speaker 1: tornadoes popping up, it's a beautiful place to look at it.
Speaker 1: I wanted to be here, wasn't supposed to be here.
Speaker 1: Came here last week and then Milton becomes a thing
Speaker 1: and I decided to stay. Supposed to leave Sunday, I
Speaker 1: said no, I want to be here for it. I
Speaker 1: want to see what people go through. Look, if I
Speaker 1: was staying in Tampa.
Speaker 2: I would have got the hell out Sunday night.
Speaker 1: But I have like a mezzanine seat. I'm not sitting
Speaker 1: on the floor. I'm not in the orchestra section. So
Speaker 1: I can sit here and look at things and assess
Speaker 1: things and try to understand what these Americans are going through.
Speaker 1: And it ain't fair, really is bullshit. But I gotta
Speaker 1: say I've had some wonderful dinners with my buddies, Mike
Speaker 1: and Kenny, Kenny's wife Irina, Mike's wife Jerry Anne.
Speaker 2: Kenny's mother, Dottie.
Speaker 1: Is in her eighties, but she's been my date for
Speaker 1: these dinners and these trips to the cigar bar down
Speaker 1: here called Strikes. South Florida is just so much nicer
Speaker 1: than Los Angeles. I know, if I lived in Beverly
Speaker 1: Hills or the Hollywood Hills, or Malibu or one of
Speaker 1: the beach towns, I'd feel really relaxed as well. But
Speaker 1: there's something about the hustle and bustle of show biz
Speaker 1: and the way people look down on you that isn't
Speaker 1: for me, you know. I like different. I love Nevada.
Speaker 1: I love the conservative attitudes of Nevada. The gun in
Speaker 1: the state you can walk around you. I'm plenty of
Speaker 1: states in America have guns that people wearing their hip.
Speaker 2: I'm all for that.
Speaker 1: I like seeing a guy walk into Denny's and have
Speaker 1: an omelet with a gun on his hip.
Speaker 2: I feel completely fine with that.
Speaker 1: But having a guy behind me at an atm at
Speaker 1: ten thirty at night, so I don't know what the fuck.
Speaker 1: His name is, where he's from, where the country hails from.
Speaker 2: That scares me. So I'm out of the night with
Speaker 2: the boys. A lot of the guy.
Speaker 1: Just to give you an example, my buddy Kenny has
Speaker 1: done very well in life.
Speaker 2: He didn't grow up, he didn't grow up wealthy.
Speaker 1: He made himself into a successful entrepreneur, businessman. And the
Speaker 1: fact that he's done so well, you think it changed him. No.
Speaker 1: There's a guy that goes to the cigar bar, which
Speaker 1: is filled with a bunch of guys, mostly East Coast
Speaker 1: guys who've retired and settled in Florida. I feel like
Speaker 1: I'm talking to all my buddies when I'm in the
Speaker 1: cigar bar. There's a guy down there named Stewie. Steweie
Speaker 1: sixty years old, late fifties maybe early sixties, on the
Speaker 1: spectrum for sure. Lost his family. His mother and father
Speaker 1: are dead. His brother and him don't see eye to eye.
Speaker 1: He lives in a bedroom that one of the guys
Speaker 1: has as a spare to his condo. Stewie works begging groceries, okay,
Speaker 1: four or five shifts a week, four hour shifts.
Speaker 2: He goes to the cigar bar at night.
Speaker 1: You know, my buddy buys some food, gives some shirts
Speaker 1: and pants that he no longer fits in, always checks
Speaker 1: in with him.
Speaker 2: Just on the way here, Stewe.
Speaker 1: He texted him and said, Hey, you got me in
Speaker 1: charge of the bakery section tonight, so I won't be
Speaker 1: at the cigar Borough un till probably ten.
Speaker 2: It's just it's and he just writes back, Stewie, get here.
Speaker 1: When you get here, I got you covered. I'll get
Speaker 1: you your drink when you show up. Bring some pastries.
Speaker 1: This is what this guy's never had in his life.
Speaker 1: My friend doesn't need to be that way, but this
Speaker 1: is what it's like for some people down here. It's
Speaker 1: still warm and connecting. It's not Hollywood, it's not La
Speaker 1: So I like it. I like that about it. I
Speaker 1: like that about Nevada as well. Like I said, the
Speaker 1: men feel like former New Yorkers and guys from Jersey,
Speaker 1: so I immediately feel at home.
Speaker 2: I can jive with them.
Speaker 1: The women, I'm not talking to any, but I've seen
Speaker 1: them come and go. The women are different than the
Speaker 1: ones you'd see walking around Beverly Hills. They're different than
Speaker 1: the ones you'd see in New York City. But just
Speaker 1: like those two cities. There are many, many women who
Speaker 1: care about their looks to the point where it becomes
Speaker 1: an obsession. Therefore, you see some whose procedures improve their
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Speaker 1: I'll tell you all about it, but will we please
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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Aja, you said that before. I know you're right.
Speaker 1: I've said it before and then life got complicated. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you, guys, every single thing.
Speaker 2: And it's not just me.
Speaker 1: Mike has had things going on his life. He's my producer.
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Speaker 1: here on in, I will be doing ten shows a week.
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Speaker 2: This week I put out too.
Speaker 1: I was feeling good that might happen as this presidential
Speaker 1: race gets extremely crazy. This is October, after all, so
Speaker 1: I figured it will not surprise you, all right, So
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to nail down the days I put
Speaker 1: the free shows out. Most likely the free shows will
Speaker 1: land Wednesday and Friday from here on in. So set
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Speaker 1: a little politics, just a little. It's funny, I promise.
Speaker 1: Look at that ten minutes on the dot. I'm sorry
Speaker 1: I needed a big precursor because there's a lot of
Speaker 1: shit going on. I listened to Kamala Harris on the
Speaker 1: sexually oriented podcast Call Me Daddy.
Speaker 2: It's absolutely batshit crazy that she did this show. It's
Speaker 2: actually it's crass.
Speaker 1: If she ever heard what type of discussions take place
Speaker 1: on this podcast.
Speaker 2: Anyhow, I listen.
Speaker 1: I mean I heard one show where women talked about
Speaker 1: how much they squirt during sex.
Speaker 2: This is not what Kamala Harris needs to be. It's funny.
Speaker 1: They brought up men who abuse women, but they never
Speaker 1: mentioned Doug Emhoff getting his nanny pregnant while married or
Speaker 1: smacking around that girlfriend in public while she cried and
Speaker 1: called two of her friends and used his name.
Speaker 2: They didn't talk about that kind of abuse Anyhow.
Speaker 1: I listened, I saw a breakdown on the percentages that
Speaker 1: she spent on various topics. The shit show began when
Speaker 1: the host, Alex Cooper, I felt a little bit. She
Speaker 1: expressed her disinterest in talking about the economy, bought a security,
Speaker 1: or fracking. She says, I'm a woman and I care
Speaker 1: about women's issues, and that's unfortunate because things like the economy,
Speaker 1: bought a security and global war affect everyone. So we
Speaker 1: would all do well to educate ourselves on the boring
Speaker 1: policies that dictate our nation's trajectory. If the same, she
Speaker 1: feels great on the campaign trail and a little nervous.
Speaker 1: Kamala finally said why she decided to join the podcast now.
Speaker 1: She applauded Alex for providing a platform where people can
Speaker 1: be heard. She then asked Alex asked, Kamala, you know
Speaker 1: has how do you apply to principles of accountability and
Speaker 1: agency to her role.
Speaker 2: As the Vice president of the United States? Who knows?
Speaker 1: Harris began to recall her days in California as a prosecutor.
Speaker 1: We all heard this bullshit before, and she remembers wanting
Speaker 1: to protect the most vulnerable. Of course, the most noteworthy
Speaker 1: story that demonstrates the opposite his way back in twenty ten,
Speaker 1: when a California Superior Court judge found that Kamala Harris
Speaker 1: her office concealed information that would have exonerated a defendant
Speaker 1: and that revelation would lead to more than six hundred
Speaker 1: other drug.
Speaker 2: Cases being dismissed.
Speaker 1: And then Harris quickly turned the conversation back to reproductive
Speaker 1: rights for women and the power that all women should
Speaker 1: exercise in maintaining those rights. Cooper just kept the conversation
Speaker 1: personal in the beginning, asking Kamala about the relationship she
Speaker 1: had with her mother growing up before she died. Of course,
Speaker 1: you got to go there has anyone that risked Trump
Speaker 1: about his mother? No, just as his father gave a
Speaker 1: million dollars. She was asked what made her pursue a
Speaker 1: career as an attorney.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: She was on her knees one day and Willie Brown said,
Speaker 1: you might want to try this. After you try that,
Speaker 1: she told this story about when she was in high
Speaker 1: school and a close friend of us was sexually assaulted
Speaker 1: by her stepfather.
Speaker 2: Of course there's going to be an assault story. This
Speaker 2: is all rehearsed, guys.
Speaker 1: She said that the injustice compelled her to choose a
Speaker 1: career where she can help people directly. Then these two
Speaker 1: bullshit artists discuss the importance of conversations around abuse so
Speaker 1: victims can feel more empowered to see all these keywords
Speaker 1: to feel safe again and right the wrongs, and Cooper
Speaker 1: asked her how the country can be made safe for women.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's constantly safe for women. What can women do,
Speaker 1: the importance of women to have financial independence to reduce
Speaker 1: the likelihood that women would feel stuck in their respective
Speaker 1: abuses' lives, And before getting into more detail, she then
Speaker 1: asked Kamala how she felt about Donald Trump's remarks talking
Speaker 1: about the fact that he says he's a protector of women,
Speaker 1: and of course Harris had to cite some Supreme Court
Speaker 1: appointment that Trump made which led to the overturning of
Speaker 1: Roe V.
Speaker 2: Wade.
Speaker 1: Have people forgotten? I bet Alexandra Cooper doesn't know this.
Speaker 1: Kamala probably doesn't even know it. Did people forget that?
Speaker 1: Obama promised that codifying RV. Wade would be the first
Speaker 1: thing he was gonna do in office. We will never happened,
Speaker 1: had eight years to do it, never did it. Look
Speaker 1: this bullshit droned on And bottom line is she spent
Speaker 1: forty five percent of that interview talking about abortion. There
Speaker 1: were like five or six other topics, very important topics
Speaker 1: that affect us all, not just those of us with
Speaker 1: a vagina, and each of those topics got between ten
Speaker 1: to twelve percent of the time or less. Brava, Brava,
Speaker 1: you bullshit artists. Then I listened to Kamala and I
Speaker 1: watched some pieces of the Howards Turn interview. Another disaster.
Speaker 1: First of all, game, how does she even enter this
Speaker 1: serious studio when she knows how many women were verbally
Speaker 1: abused there or made to an very sexual things about themselves.
Speaker 1: Many of these girls stripped down naked and were asked
Speaker 1: to make out with their female friend.
Speaker 2: I saw a video to the Instagram.
Speaker 1: Where Howard's got this girl in the studio and she's
Speaker 1: trying to take off her big giant bra to reveal
Speaker 1: her double h breasts, and.
Speaker 2: He's going, mom, Ilucian, those were great, ooh, what I'd
Speaker 2: do to you? Give me here, give me.
Speaker 1: Those heavy put those heavy things on my chest. Disgusting.
Speaker 1: He liked it that Thye Howard did things back then.
Speaker 2: It turned him on. Who cares how the women felt.
Speaker 2: I was there, so I know.
Speaker 1: I was one of the cavemen who were test with
Speaker 1: pointing a red laser at various parts of a woman's body.
Speaker 2: Who was in the studio. There were women who.
Speaker 1: Used to come in wanting a no serious, I mean
Speaker 1: a serious, no bullshit assessment on why they think they're
Speaker 1: a perfect ten. They knew coming in that's what they
Speaker 1: were gonna do. They were gonna strip and show us
Speaker 1: their about it that they believe was a ten. And
Speaker 1: then guys like me, or Kevin's Smith or Chuck Zito
Speaker 1: or a bunch of different celebrities would shine that red
Speaker 1: laser it points of their naked bodies and tell them
Speaker 1: otherwise it's gross. I know it's gross. I'm not excusing
Speaker 1: that hurtful nonsense. But those were the times, and these
Speaker 1: women knew what they were going to face.
Speaker 2: What can I tell you? It was a different world
Speaker 2: back then.
Speaker 1: I'm not proud of it. If that happened to my daughter,
Speaker 1: I'd be sick. Although I tell my daughter, don't you
Speaker 1: dare go on a radio show and take your clothes off?
Speaker 1: But the questions Howard's turn ask Kamala, give me a
Speaker 1: fucking break. We've all had to agree that Howard's turned over.
Speaker 2: The years, has become a great interviewer.
Speaker 1: He was called the next Larry King if he wanted
Speaker 1: a job. He knows he's great at getting people to
Speaker 1: say things and admit to things they normally wouldn't.
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 1: The atmosphere he created the last thirty some odd years
Speaker 1: has forced a lot of people to say things they
Speaker 1: wish they never had. But all of us, including me,
Speaker 1: just wanting to make the King laugh. Seeing Howard laugh
Speaker 1: is like making Daddy laugh. You felt, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I'm accepted. I'll come back again.
Speaker 2: He likes me.
Speaker 1: And it was impossible to be caught for three seconds
Speaker 1: with dead air. No, you had to find something to say,
Speaker 1: preferably funny.
Speaker 2: You don't want dead air.
Speaker 1: You're not coming back He asked her, would you leave
Speaker 1: the country if Donald Trump wins?
Speaker 2: Asshole? Will you leave?
Speaker 1: Well the germaphoe, which is all bullshit since I know
Speaker 1: for a fact Howard's Dune used to have sex with
Speaker 1: chicks when he was separated from his first wife and
Speaker 1: never wore a condom so much for germs. Trump was
Speaker 1: the same way as well. Condoms no thank you. Anyhow,
Speaker 1: he asked that stupid question, which is ridiculous. I just
Speaker 1: can't believe Kamala Harris goes on these shows which is
Speaker 1: supposed to be friendly interviews. They treat this woman like
Speaker 1: she's autistic or mentally retalked. They treat her like Kenny
Speaker 1: treats Stewie at the cigar bar.
Speaker 2: We have to ask nice questions to Kamala. We have
Speaker 2: to make sure Kamala is comfortable.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 2: Whatever the hell and.
Speaker 1: That Whirlwind press str they're calling it and podcast or
Speaker 1: was a disaster. Her appearance on sixty Minutes with Bill Whitaker,
Speaker 1: who's black, destroyed her. I want to make any voters
Speaker 1: who has who think she's gonna win seriously reconsider she's
Speaker 1: a dunce and she showed it. She's all icing no cake,
Speaker 1: but I'm listening to her, which is as thick as
Speaker 1: this fog in front of me out the window, and
Speaker 1: it brought to mind that scene from Billy Madison where
Speaker 1: the guy tells Adama Sanda what you just said was
Speaker 1: one of the most insanely relatable things I've ever heard,
Speaker 1: And no point in your clear and coherent response were
Speaker 1: you even close to anything that could be considered an
Speaker 1: outlandish claim. Everyone in this room is now dumber because
Speaker 1: of you, brilliant That's what should be said every time
Speaker 1: Kamala speaks. You know, everybody's talking shit. I swear journalism,
Speaker 1: Walter Cronkite said, journalism is what we need to make
Speaker 1: democracy work, and seeking truth you have to get both
Speaker 1: sides of the story.
Speaker 2: We don't want to do that.
Speaker 1: Much of the media just don't do that, and if
Speaker 1: they don't do their job, people aren't well informed and
Speaker 1: then often make terrible decisions they come to regret. So
Speaker 1: the fish stinks from the headlined down. Oh that's good,
Speaker 1: not the head the headline down. I like that. Speaking
Speaker 1: of Kronkite many years ago, I don't know, ninety nine
Speaker 1: ninety eight in New York City with my friend Johnny
Speaker 1: Boy and went to go to the Carlisle Hotel. Earth
Speaker 1: of Kit used to sing there. I think that night
Speaker 1: we saw Elane Stretch. Bobby Short used to sing there
Speaker 1: in their little cabaret, beautiful cabaret room.
Speaker 2: And some girl came with us.
Speaker 1: We were gonna meet Jack Nicholson upstairs in his room.
Speaker 1: He was in town, and we got the elevator. We
Speaker 1: get into the elevator, we lean against the wall and
Speaker 1: in walks of old people. Walter Cronkite, the father of
Speaker 1: TV journalism. He was like eighty years old at the time.
Speaker 1: He was retired from broadcasting news for like fifteen years.
Speaker 1: And listen as a kid, I always was mesmerized by
Speaker 1: the nightly news, and I remember many nights when Cronkite
Speaker 1: was bringing America very important, sometimes poignant.
Speaker 2: And sad news. We're talking to Moon Landing his.
Speaker 1: Editorials about Vietnam, and of course, before I was born,
Speaker 1: the assassination of President Kennedy, where Cronkite took off his
Speaker 1: glasses and wept in front of America.
Speaker 2: And this was during a time where one quarter of
Speaker 2: the entire country was tuned into his show.
Speaker 1: Think about that, two hundred million Americans, but thirty million
Speaker 1: out of those two hundred. But watching Walter Kronkink, that's
Speaker 1: a big reason why his nickname was Uncle Walter, because
Speaker 1: he felt like family. He had great morals, he could
Speaker 1: be try. He was an honest man.
Speaker 2: But that's not to.
Speaker 1: Say he didn't have his wildside, right, I mean, men
Speaker 1: have their wild side, you know. I just thought of
Speaker 1: something we've all seen the Kennedy did the Zupruder tape
Speaker 1: right of Kennedy getting shot a million times, it's so
Speaker 1: old and grainy that it's still hard to tell, you know,
Speaker 1: what happened and from what angles the bullets came, et cetera.
Speaker 1: But think about it, if that would have happened today,
Speaker 1: like it happened to Trump almost getting assassinated, everyone would
Speaker 1: have had their iPhones in the air, and within a
Speaker 1: day or two we'd know who was responsible for pulling
Speaker 1: the trigger or triggers, and there would be no Zapruto tape,
Speaker 1: or it wouldn't matter as much. We just know anyhow,
Speaker 1: back to Yeah, it was ninety six. Johnnybody calls one
Speaker 1: night says, we're gonna go to the Carlisle Hotel to
Speaker 1: go see Jack.
Speaker 2: Jack always stayed there.
Speaker 1: It's a really swanky Landmark hotel inside the Carlisle as
Speaker 1: Benelman's bars. Beautiful and that's what we saw with the
Speaker 1: kid Bobby Short and that night it was a lane
Speaker 1: stretch who I love. And right after that Jack told
Speaker 1: us to come upstairs. So had a girl with me,
Speaker 1: so did Johnny. We watched the lane, go to Jack's room,
Speaker 1: where we spent about an hour just bullshit and you know,
Speaker 1: smoking a joint whatever.
Speaker 2: So we leave.
Speaker 1: We hit the elevator button. It stops on our floor.
Speaker 1: The door's open. What do we see Walter Cronkit. Uncle
Speaker 1: Walter with his back to us like he didn't want
Speaker 1: to be recognized, He did not want anybody to see him.
Speaker 2: I saw him. Hello.
Speaker 1: Everybody knows what Cronkite looks like, even from the back.
Speaker 1: That night, Cronkite's got two chicksmen, two women of the night,
Speaker 1: two chicks to them who obviously get paid to be there.
Speaker 1: They were dressed fine, they were pretty, but it was
Speaker 1: obvious that these two were hired.
Speaker 2: One woman was holding an ice bucket, the other was
Speaker 2: holding a bottle of champagne. Uncle Walter is in the
Speaker 2: middle with one hand on each woman's ass cheek. Come on,
Speaker 2: you can't. Johnny and I were pinch at each other
Speaker 2: trying to hold all after him.
Speaker 1: Before we get to the first floor, the door open
Speaker 1: and Cronkite and and the women had to get past
Speaker 1: us and get out on that floor.
Speaker 2: And I couldn't resist.
Speaker 1: The doors were closed and I said, ant story is
Speaker 1: Uncle Walt.
Speaker 2: He didn't want to look back. He just kept walking.
Speaker 1: Well, that was a moment when I could see that
Speaker 1: America's newsmen, however intelligent or full of class, they each have.
Speaker 2: A dark side. I think a lot of men do.
Speaker 1: And then as the years passed, I was able to
Speaker 1: hang out with Dan Rather, who was an absolute wild man,
Speaker 1: and then Peter Jennings, who was as randy as they come.
Speaker 2: You know, my opinion about.
Speaker 1: The men who give us the news is changed. But
Speaker 1: you're not going to believe the way it makes me feel.
Speaker 1: Look Cronkite like a little on the side. And I've
Speaker 1: told you the stories about hanging out with my good
Speaker 1: friend Kim, who was Dan Rather's assistant and right hand woman.
Speaker 1: Right She traveled everywhere with Dan. And this is during
Speaker 1: the Clinton years that the world was crazy, America was crazy.
Speaker 1: She was there with Dan everywhere overseas, you name it.
Speaker 1: And it was obvious for the start that Dan was
Speaker 1: smitten with her. And what's not to like. You know,
Speaker 1: we used to go out to dinner and she'd fill
Speaker 1: me with the stories.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Dan used to love to have Kim come up to
Speaker 1: his room and read Homer's, Homer's but the Iliad, you know,
Speaker 1: books like that. Because Kim was a very beautiful young
Speaker 1: woman from India, but because she was reared in London
Speaker 1: in all these different boarding schools, she also had this
Speaker 1: terrific English accent and Dan loved it. So it asked
Speaker 1: her to read with him or read to him while
Speaker 1: he sits champagne. And after a while he would tell
Speaker 1: her to go to Barney's and pick out something nice
Speaker 1: for yourself.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Then at first she felt silly going shopping. First, she'd
Speaker 1: call me, I don't ay, j Dunna, what did you do?
Speaker 1: Dan gave me his Barney's credit card. I just feel foolish,
Speaker 1: I said, just buy something. Well, Dan's insisted I must wear.
Speaker 1: I said, then get something. Don't be He's loaded, it's
Speaker 1: all gonna be written off on his expense, and I
Speaker 1: just get something. But Dan would say that you know. Look,
Speaker 1: he was the main man of the network. Plus he
Speaker 1: was America's news man. So when he told her his shop,
Speaker 1: she shopped. At first, she'd maybe just pick out a
Speaker 1: scarf or maybe a pair of gloves, and then he'd say, well,
Speaker 1: that's lovely, but that's all you bought. So then she'd
Speaker 1: come back with a beautiful dress. Then it was ear rings,
Speaker 1: Then it was a five thousand dollars necklace, and I'd
Speaker 1: say the word, he's gonna try and fuck you.
Speaker 2: You know that?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: Oh? H never not? Dan never know. Of course that
Speaker 2: was right, she said. She didn't buckle. But who the
Speaker 2: hell knows. You're far away, you're in Europe, it's night time.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: He's the boss way before me too, she says, she
Speaker 2: never did. I don't know.
Speaker 1: But then while Dan was after her, she'd sometimes bump
Speaker 1: into ABC News Peter Jennings, the very sophisticated newsman, what
Speaker 1: a slightly different approach to news. He wanted to go
Speaker 1: after Kims. He wanted to pill for Kim. He wanted
Speaker 1: to Kim to work for him. He wanted us so badly.
Speaker 1: But she stayed with Dan, but didn't mean that she
Speaker 1: didn't accept Dan's gifts either.
Speaker 2: Before long, both.
Speaker 1: Men Dan and Peter were leaving her voicemails that would
Speaker 1: make me blush when she played them for me. But
Speaker 1: look what I'm saying is as crazy as it sounds.
Speaker 1: Men like this, I can understand. I can understand because
Speaker 1: they're acting like men. They're being true to their competitive,
Speaker 1: masculine sexual selves. She never said either man crossed any
Speaker 1: kind of gross line. It was all talked and innuendo
Speaker 1: and flirting and yes, voicemails and of course gifts. No
Speaker 1: one got hurt. Kim was flattered that both men got some.
Speaker 1: Uh well, she was flattered and both men got something
Speaker 1: they wanted or at least enough to keep their blood pumping.
Speaker 1: These days, both men would be reported within a day.
Speaker 1: Human resources will come down, as well as a crisis
Speaker 1: team for the network, and a gender specialist and an
Speaker 1: emergency management specialist, an equity manager, and of course a
Speaker 1: panel of DEI experts to figure out how to gauge
Speaker 1: the damage.
Speaker 2: What fucking damage? Powerful men flirted?
Speaker 1: How I wish that that was America's biggest problem, instead
Speaker 1: of having journalists.
Speaker 2: Who fucking lied to us every single day. What's happened
Speaker 2: to this country.
Speaker 1: Maybe Milton screw people's heads up, maybe screw them on
Speaker 1: right again. Maybe these two storms and these tornadoes and
Speaker 1: what might come later in the month before hurricane seasons
Speaker 1: off will change people's perspectives and say, you know what.
Speaker 2: We almost fucking died. Let's just pull back on this nonsense.
Speaker 2: Maybe Trump will win, which I think.
Speaker 1: He will easily. I don't think it's a tight race
Speaker 1: at all. I think it's all bullshit. When he's back,
Speaker 1: I'm sure the country will do better. I know those
Speaker 1: of you out there are liberal and you go give
Speaker 1: you a shit about Trump. You hate him, you hate
Speaker 1: his tweet, chat, his hair. I used to hate him too,
Speaker 1: so you're talking to the choir preach and singing.
Speaker 2: To the choir. I changed. I think he's better for us.
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