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While you're visiting Bryce Kandan National Park, let's get out

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to the hot line.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in.

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Speaker 3: Baller's shot collar d Sean Walker, beat rider Insider KSL

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Speaker 2: We got Sean Walker on the line. What's up, Sean?

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Speaker 4: I prefer to be known as someone from the same

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state that US Women's Hockey Olympic legend Hillary Knight lives in.

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Thank you very much, Ben.

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Speaker 2: I know we got we got the gold baby.

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Speaker 4: Shout out. Shout out to Hillary Knight. Shout it is there.

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Has anybody ever had a better seventy two hours in

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life like let alone sports but life? Then Hillary Knight,

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she gets engaged. Was it like two nights ago? She

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scores the game tying goal to become the US women's

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talking all time leader in points and goals in the Olympics,

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in an Olympics, and then she wins her second gold medal, Like,

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come on, man, it's good to be Hill, It's good

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to be Hillary.

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Speaker 2: Shout out to Hillary.

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Speaker 3: Shout out to the women's the women's hockey team getting

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that gold medal around their next Congratulations to all the competitors,

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all the Olympians out there that are winning at a

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high level for the US of a Sean. We've been

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talking hoop, We've been talking football. I want to talk

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NFL combined with you if you can take a few

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moments to discuss Chase Roberts and Jack Kelly right now.

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Are you disappointed that more guys weren't invited to the

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NFL combined? Do you think two was the right number?

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Who's at the accurate number? Did anyone get slided here

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Speaker 4: I think, I mean, I think the two no brainers

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from b YU will probably Chase Roberts and Jack Hill,

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can maybe make an argument for a couple of offensive

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and defensive linemen, But I also don't really know how

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offensive and defensive linemen are judged, quite frankly on the

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NFL combine and kind of what they can do, what

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they can sell, that sort of thing. I'm not paid

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to be in. I know there's a shocking event, but

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can't get inside their minds. I know it's weird, it's wild.

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now not Isaiah Bagna, Isaiah Glaster. Excuse me, I'm getting

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years mixed up. After Isaiah Lasker and now I think

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that would say Roberts and Jack Kelly. Again. I throw

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they in there a sort of the third guy once

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he came back. I think really the noble Aners were

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Speaker 3: If you are you, how do you think how do

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think something like the NFL Combine for a guy, let's

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start with Chase. For Chase Roberts, I think the combine

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experience has a potential to maybe expose some things that

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NFL teams don't like, depending on how he does on

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of thing. They're going to look really really heavy at

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those things. So Chases needs a goat, he needs he

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needs to do what he does best. He needs to

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train for sort of non football events, if you will,

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draft and close to hashtag draft season, if you will,

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know that this is different than just playing football. But

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think he could. He could work himself into that position

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com When it comes to Jack Kelly, I think more

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eyes on him and more opportunities to show case who he

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is and what he is can only help him. I

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hurt his stock knock on blood obviously, hopefully I'm not

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chinking him, but I think he just needs people to

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see him. He needs, you know, people to see the

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kid from Kern who spent most of his college career

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see who he is and what he's about. I think

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need to see who he is. I think this NFL

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graphic experience ultimately should again knock on wood. Hopefully I'm

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not thinking anybody, but ultimately it should only help him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like Chase is gonna come out of

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this kind of just even it's like he's a productive, big, strong, quick,

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good route running wide receiver. I think Jack is gonna

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elevate his stock. I really believe that. I think he's

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gonna run a really good forty time.

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Speaker 3: I'm not talking like he's gonna look like von Miller

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Speaker 3: So if he gets in I think it was actually

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Speaker 2: A four or five to five. Yeah, you know somewhere

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Speaker 3: Like he he has that that explosive get off and speed.

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a great combine performance. Don't be surprised if he runs

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Speaker 4: Will say this about Chase Roberts as well, is this

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is the kind I do think there are experiences at

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the draft combine, outside of the underwear Olympics where he

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just this isn't just you know, how fast can you

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Speaker 4: What are your agility drills looking like? Like that's what

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kind of look it's you know, blasted for fourteen hours

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a day on NFL network. I think that's all important,

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that's all there. But this is also a place where

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all where scouts and executive from all thirty two NFL

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mental aptitude tests. They pull it. They brought you not

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only physically but also mentally. And I think Chase Roberts

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is the kind of guy who is he can just

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sit down in front of some NFL executives, he can

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really improve, he can improve his stock just by showing

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them who he is. He's the type of guy, uh,

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you know, leadership roles, locker room character I think is

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sort of some of the cliches that we throw out.

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elevate himself by proving that he's not going to be

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a head case or a headache if you will, Annie Roster,

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little those leadership at times. I think that's where maybe

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in front of in front of some NFL teams and

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not necessarily stand up and run and the.

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Speaker 3: Sean Walker KASELKASL dot com talking some BYU Cougar's in

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What can we find uh as far as your product,

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Speaker 4: Dot com, I mean it's just where we transition over

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now coming out a game in Tucson over there. What well,

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the program, Benja. Then what did you think of that

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Speaker 5: Uh?

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Speaker 4: In Tucson? And maybe I'll follow up in there with

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something that stood out in the first game post Richie

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think both teams were a little bit shorthanded.

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in college basketball. So you can make an argument like, oh, well,

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you just you're you're you're even in that regard. And

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Speaker 2: So the way you did, what they typically do.

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Speaker 3: They get down at some point in in the first

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Speaker 2: Make it respectable. That's what they did.

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Speaker 2: From a baseline standpoint. Some silver linings.

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not just settling for picking pops and three point shots.

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couple of putbacks, like he's starting to maybe get back

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Speaker 2: Hopefully he can be healthy and strong.

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Speaker 3: But other than that, k Y has absolutely no confidence

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else they they have, they have four guys that he likes,

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Speaker 2: Those are my thoughts on it.

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Speaker 3: It was a respectable loss versus one of the best

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Speaker 2: That's my synopsis.

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through Aj Debonsa and Rob Right, a third to a

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little bit less of an extent. No sight to Rob.

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what the team is offensively, and when you throw Richie

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Saunders in there, this felt like a team that had

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potential to make it into the second second week and

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maybe un Final Fourpere and in the NCAA Tournament. But

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you put them up against a team like Arizona, and

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it had in a lot of ways. I mean, my

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guy like Anthony Dulosa can come off of the bench,

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uh and go for whatever you want to finishing with

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twenty three, twenty five somewhere in there. I mean, and

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this is the guy outside of your starting five minus CoA.

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is eventually going to come back. They're not quite saying

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telling though, is not quite saying how long he'll be out,

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but he's not expected to be out for the entire

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season when he gets back. In all of a sudden,

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this is Arizona team that's the Dash Hotel contender, and

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I think still is BYU. There's no shame in not

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being that necessarily, but based off of where the expectations

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bit of a disappointment, and I think there are a

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lot of reasons for that disappointment. Ritchie Saunder's injury is

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is big, but the injury bug has hit them pretty

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pretty hard. Not just Saunders, but you've got Dawson Baker,

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getting hurt, who could have been a reliable stub maybe

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see some rotation minutes in there. You add that to

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a bench that just hasn't panned out very well. This

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up in the absence of Richie Fonda. I didn't really

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see anybody step up to prove that they can fill

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Richie's minutes. Like you mentioned Canard Davis, Like, yeah, he

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showed a couple of nice things in the second half,

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but he's been a starter and still was a starter

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last night. I guess that's nice, but I just I

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don't see where BYU goes to replace those a minute

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for Richie. And I think that is a serious problem

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for Kevin Young and his staf.

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Speaker 3: It's uh about we're getting down to the to the

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wire here in the regular season. What do you think

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the win lost record will be in these last what

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are we having now five games left in the regular season.

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Speaker 5: Uh?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's tough because I mean they got a top

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ten team and Iowa State coming into their building on Saturday, right.

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Speaker 4: And this Big Twelve schedule is unrelenty. It is tough,

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it is, it is terrible in some ways. If you're

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not ready for you can get really punched in the mouth.

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this schedule in Big twelve play anymore. We even thought

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a team like Utah that only had one Big Twelve

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win go on the road and smack West Virginia last night, right, So,

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like this this is a conference that is unforgiving. This

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is a conference that you can't just sleep walk through

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anywhere literally anywhere, but whether that's in Tucson or Waco,

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or Manhattan, Kansas, or Morgantown, West Virginia, Orlando, Florida, Cincinnia, Ohio,

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where that is like, I think you got to show up.

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You got to play your best. Ultimately, I do think

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AJ and Rob have enough talent in them to kind

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of eat BYU back into sort of its top half

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status in the Big twelve tournament. I think they can

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win a couple of games, get above that twenty win plateau.

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That's really important. Beyond that, I really don't know. I

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really don't know where else is team shows a lot

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of it. It's gonna depend I think a lot of

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it is gonna ride on both two, you know, the

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Big three becoming the Big two. And what can the

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Big two do to take the b YU into the postseason.

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Speaker 3: What what this BAYU basketball team can be to be

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to be determined still, but I know, okay, why has

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some fight? Uh? And we're still looking for answers from

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the bench. I thought, I hoped, I prayed it could

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be a Lexi Costic. I'm losing hope. I'm losing faith

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in Mahilo. I'm I'm I'm losing faith in just about

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that entire bench lineup trying to find their way. Look,

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give me Jared McGregor, give me McGregor, give it to him.

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I'm ready to see him. Dominique gain cutting it for me.

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Monde in a diamond in the rough, Honi, Jared, just Jared,

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And as soon as you get a look Jared, I

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want you to just huck it up, baby, Just take

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the shot, shoot the jay.

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Speaker 4: I love me some Jmac. I will always call for

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some more Jmac anywhere and everywhere. Jerry McGregor is one

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of my favorite people, let alone basketball players ever. But

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I don't necessarily totally disagree with you. But one thing

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that hasn't been talked about enough with saunders injury was

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we know he's a great shooter, we know he's got

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an incredibly high motor. We know he's a just a

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dogged defender, right He uses his lines very well, can

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kind of do a little bit of everything. But it's

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it's his heart. And I do think that Kevin Young

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touched on this a little bit earlier in the week

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where he said, rich Saunders has really kind of been

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the heart of this team for the past two years

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that he's been there. He's been the face of Deyu

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basketball under Kevin Young, and right, when you lose your heart,

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I think Yu's lost his heart in a lot of

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ways and they need to figure out a way to

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get that back. As much as Richie's points. Points can

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be replaced, Revents can eventually be replaced. Again, It's not easy.

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This can be replaced. All of those stats can eventually

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be replaced. And that's something that that they're working on

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really hard at the annex, probably even right now as

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we speak. But what is maybe what's a little bit

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more difficult to replace is heart. It's soul and YU

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needs to find the full of its program song Rickie Sonders,

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and they probably need to do it pretty quickly.

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Speaker 2: K Y said in the post game.

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Speaker 3: That that it's gonna be a dog fight.

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Speaker 2: Every time you play b YU.

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Speaker 3: Kevin Young said that on his team's identity since losing

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Richie Saunders. Do you think opponents feel like it's going

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to be a dogfight every time they played b YU?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean they've coaches have said so so far

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up to this point in the year. Granted most of

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that has been with Ritchie, but they know what It's

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tough play for Maria Center is to play. I think

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the fans are still going to show up. I think

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that I can give them a significant advantage for their

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last couple of games here at home in Provo. They

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know the talent that aj Devonte is they know the

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talent that Rob right. The third still is they know

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that there is still talent around them. These guys are wanted,

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have been recruited to play Division one basketball and arguably

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the best conference in America, the second best league in

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America outside of the NBA. Again, to borrow one of

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breat your Mark's favorite lines, like, these guys all have talent,

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and I think coaches know that, but they're also going

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to be scheming around that talent and trying to figure

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out how to make themselves successful against that YU talent.

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So yeah, like I do think this is still a

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dogged team. I do think. I do think that there

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is still something in them. It's just they're just still

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a little bit shell shocked from a pretty significant injury.

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And I mean, eventually they're gonna have to get over it.

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Speaker 3: Sean Walker, Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls talking BYU basketball,

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BA football topics, real quick storylines, beaca storylines of spring

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ball that you're you're going to be taking a long,

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hard look at during Camp Kilani twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was. I was initially gonna be looking in

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the backfield to see what running backs there were to

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back up l. J. Martin. We know the Big twelve

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rating off of the Player of the Year. He's been

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in all everything running back for Kowane team.

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Speaker 5: Do what you need?

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Speaker 4: More depth in the backfield, though promising signs Devon Eckas

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already on campus. You know he's gone to know the team.

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He graduated early from Lehigh. This dude is an absolute dog,

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and I want to be shocked if he jumped into

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the rotation right away. But I think there are other

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guys that are definitely gonna get some opportunities gonext On

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a moa. Guys like like President Rex is still back there.

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We thought good things out of Stil the moon hanging

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in the bowl game that you can't totally go unnoticed.

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That was my number one storyline. I think he had

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it into swing camps. But obviously with the situation that

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developed around Parker Kingston and him no longer being with

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the team, I think you need to kind of shift to.

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Speaker 5: The wide receiver pool.

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Speaker 4: This was a group that had now lost its top

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two targets, top three targets really in terms of pass

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catches with Carson Ryan and Kase Roberts and there from

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last season and there there are a lot of reps

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to replace right there. So running back, wide receiver, quarterbacks

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pretty well settled that. I'm pretty sure we're settled. I

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don't think there's any controversy there. Their Boutonnier coming back obviously,

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and I really like Nick Watson coming in the potential

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backup for him, along with Chasing Bulgey returning as well,

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So I think those are fine. But we're going back

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in that wide receiver. I think wide receiver is probably

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the most present concern for b YU right now, not

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who's throwing passes, but who's catching them ultimately from bear Backmeyer.

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Speaker 3: Goldie Man, I've been on that train for a while.

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The L A l A product Emick Watson, I think

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he could possibly overtake the try it and prove Tracon

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borgay as QB two. I'm with you on that one, Sean.

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I'll ride and die with you on that, and I

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think it's very I think it's possible. I think it's feasible.

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Speaker 4: Fact he got to campus in like mid November, he

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was able to join the team and as soon as

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the semester ended in December, so he went through most

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of those bull practices with BYU and uh he's already

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receiving very rave reviews from Aaron Rodgers. So that's that's

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certainly promising.

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Speaker 3: I think I'm gonna tag your baby QB two cougarnation,

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Nick Watson.

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Speaker 2: Let's go.

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Speaker 3: Let's go to break, guys. But I appreciate you, Sean.

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We got to run.

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Speaker 2: But always a pleasure past way to support you. What

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to BAU Basketball and get into a few stats that

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are alarming, to say the least about our bench production.

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I don't think Khy trusts anyone outside of aj Rob Kinard,

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and now I think Kaba is getting back into the

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good graces as he gets healthy. I don't think you

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trust anybody else, though. We're going to get into it.

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Speaker 2: Let's get out to the hotline.

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Speaker 3: Welcome man form or BYU bucket Getter, one of my

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favorite guests. Let's welcome at Anson Wider to the show.

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What's up Anson b?

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Speaker 5: See what's up my brother? How are you doing man?

510
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Thanks for having me.

511
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Speaker 2: I'm doing good man, living the dream.

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Speaker 3: And uh, you know, talking some BYU basketball, BYU football.

513
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Look like let's talk hoop for a moment here. Our

514
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expectations were pretty high, right, pretty high going into the season.

515
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This is still a top twenty five team in college basketball,

516
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at least for the rankings via ca Palm, all of

517
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the data, all the analytics. I think, what a lot

518
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of people like any other year, Right, We're top twenty

519
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five at this record in the Big Twelve. Were happy campers, right,

520
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But something about the expectations got Kugarnation a little bit salty,

521
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a little bit sour, right, now how do you see it?

522
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's tough, Ben, this is a tough place to

523
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be in, right, because myself included to start the year

524
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this preseason. Right, you have the highest expectations in the world. Right,

525
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you literally have probably the best player of BIU has

526
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ever seen wearing a BIU jersey at eighteen years old

527
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in aj and you have a myriad of role players

528
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around him that are also great in their own right.

529
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You look at Rob Wright, you look at Cannard, Davis Kabakata,

530
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I mean, all these guys who thrived at their previous schools.

531
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I mean, it just seemed like a recipe that was

532
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bound to work on all fronts, whether that be in

533
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conference or during March Madness. Personally, you know, as what

534
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goes with sports is that injury bug. And I mean

535
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it's not just BYU that's feeling it. I mean it's

536
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been a rough week for the Big twelve. You know,

537
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you watch Texas Tech lose their best player and a

538
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JT toppin. I mean it's just it starts to get

539
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to that point, you know in the season where where

540
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longevity and durability starts to really set in and say, okay,

541
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do we have enough pieces from a health perspective to

542
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get us not only through conference but to March. You know,

543
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I love this team. I still think to your point

544
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been that this absolutely as the top twenty five teams.

545
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I think Coach Young mentioned it during his press conference

546
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or his interview on Monday. Hey, listen, he's got a challenging,

547
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daunting task ahead of him. He's got to figure out

548
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how to revamp their style of play mid season while

549
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trying to you know, win games. That's a tough place

550
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to be in as a coach. I don't envy him.

551
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And on top of that, right you're playing in the

552
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best basketball conference in the country. You get no breaks,

553
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you know, and not to everybody. So I feel for

554
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by you. It hurts being a fan just knowing that,

555
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you know, you lose a leader in Richie. But I'm

556
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excited to see what the likes of a Canar Davis

557
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or or Alec or even a Dyamonde Dominique, even what

558
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they would do, you know, with more opportunity.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the question is who does Ky trust. It doesn't

560
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seem like he trusts any one of those guys. Me Hilo,

561
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even though he started him. I think he's just kind

562
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of trying things out. He's seeing what sticks. Alecxi really

563
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quick pull after he turned the ball over, trying to

564
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get the ball to aj Debonsa.

565
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Speaker 2: It doesn't seem like he likes his bench.

566
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Speaker 3: I think last year, how many points did they average

567
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off the bench?

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Speaker 2: Vic? How many points did they average off the bench?

569
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Last year? Yeah? Last year thirty, a little over thirty

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points a game off the bench, and this year it's

571
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eleven eleven. I mean it's insane. And he doesn't trust

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the bench.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't trust anyone outside of those three that I

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mentioned in a little bit of Kaiva.

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Speaker 5: I mean it's a tough place to be. I mean,

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you're absolutely right, Ben. When you don't have a strong bench,

577
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you're relying on your front five maybe six to do

578
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all of the work. You lose a huge production piece

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in Richie. Who's going to be that next guy? I

580
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was kind of hoping and Boot would have slid into

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that role and had a little bit more of a presence.

582
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I mean, I'm still hopeful that he. I think he

583
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probably has the most confidence going in right, he's been playing,

584
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he's got minutes throughout the year. He's one that I

585
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you know, he may have to be one that really

586
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slides didn't start to make plays. The tough part is, right,

587
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is you're trying to generate confidence in guys who haven't

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necessarily been playing all year, right, And so it's not

589
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just a matter of Kevin trusting these guys. It's Hey,

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when I'm put in the game, do I have the

591
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confidence enough to make a shot? I haven't really been

592
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given this opportunity much prior to today. Do I have

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what it takes to stay and it makes shots? Because

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that's what the team is gonna need. And also guarding

595
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at a high level, which I think we've seen a

596
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huge drop off in Duius defense the last few games.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, at least with Boop, you do have like it

598
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looks like he plays confidently and what he knows how

599
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to do. Like I mean, he's not an offensive player, right,

600
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but he does know how to rebound. He does play

601
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great defense, and he plays with intensity and a competitive fire.

602
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I feel like he's probably the most consistent out of

603
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the crew and plays with some confidence, whereas Mihailo, his

604
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confidence is waivered. You don't know what you're gonna get

605
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from him, Alexi, you don't know what you're gonna get

606
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from him. You just know what you're gonna get from

607
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any one of these guys. Dominique Diamande looks good like

608
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from a tangible length standpoint athleticism, but he he kind

609
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of looks lost a little bit both offensively and defense.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't play with confidence.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, a lot of these guys look the part what

612
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I noticed been and I'm moms bought on with you. Right,

613
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You're looking at their stats on paper and it's like, okay,

614
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you guys should all be huge factors in a game,

615
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but it doesn't always translate. I think one thing that

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we'll see, it was very apparent and watching by you

617
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Aldgainst Arizona, is they have to get some more consistent offense,

618
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some more flow, some more movement. Right, it's going to

619
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be hard if if every game you know, buy you

620
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is relying on AJ to shoot twenty five plus shots

621
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the game, rob Wright to shoot fifteen plus shots the

622
00:30:29,319 --> 00:30:31,759
game just for them to be competitive, that's gonna be

623
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a hard, hard way to win basketball games here on out.

624
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I mean, so it's it's going to take some more

625
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,759
motion in their offense and guys are gonna have to

626
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step up and make plays, whether that be making shots,

627
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getting on the offensive glass and creative sex, creating second

628
00:30:46,759 --> 00:30:50,319
chance opportunities, or just say executing sets. I mean, I

629
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:52,880
think Kevin Young hit the nail on the head saying, hey,

630
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I'm the challenge is trying to figure out now how

631
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to revamp and we'll see what that what that turns

632
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into us these next few weeks.

633
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Speaker 3: Right now, they're a top twenty five team. Ken Palm

634
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has him as a top twenty five team. When you

635
00:31:06,839 --> 00:31:09,279
watch this team play, and I know it's hard because

636
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you're going against the best of the best. These are

637
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some of the best teams in college basketball. Do you

638
00:31:15,119 --> 00:31:16,680
see a top twenty five team.

639
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Speaker 5: I do see the top twenty five team. I absolutely do.

640
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I think it may not show as much in the

641
00:31:24,359 --> 00:31:27,880
Big Twelve because of the bohemoths of a Big twelve conference.

642
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I think it'll start to show once we truly get

643
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to March madness. I think if the VII you can

644
00:31:34,759 --> 00:31:38,720
stay healthy from now until time for selection Sunday, I

645
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,680
like rolling them, rolling the dicing. It's a non Big

646
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,720
twelve team. Again, like we mentioned, right, some of the

647
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,119
best defensive teams based off just stats all live in

648
00:31:48,119 --> 00:31:50,359
the Big twelve. We're talking about Arizona. No, we're talking

649
00:31:50,359 --> 00:31:52,519
about Houston, We're talking about Text to Tech. These are

650
00:31:52,519 --> 00:31:55,240
all teams that defensively, they were going to give you

651
00:31:55,319 --> 00:31:57,839
AU problems whether Richie was there or not, and we've

652
00:31:57,839 --> 00:32:00,240
seen that, you know what I mean, and sow out.

653
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It's a matter of Okay, can they get to selection Sunday,

654
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,440
win enough games and hopefully going a little run in

655
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their conference tournament and then make some noise against the

656
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team that they haven't seen yet in conference.

657
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

658
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Speaker 3: I've been discussing kind of florin ceiling for this team

659
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:22,400
without Ritchie and with the bench just I'm not confident

660
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,079
in the bench. What do you think the flor and

661
00:32:24,119 --> 00:32:26,759
ceiling is for this team in the n C Double

662
00:32:26,799 --> 00:32:27,319
A Tournament?

663
00:32:29,119 --> 00:32:31,839
Speaker 5: Oh? Good question, I think because I think we.

664
00:32:32,119 --> 00:32:34,079
Speaker 2: Can agree this is an nc Double A tournament team.

665
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 5: Right.

666
00:32:34,279 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 2: You're not concerned that they're not going to the n

667
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:36,519
CUAA Tournament.

668
00:32:37,359 --> 00:32:40,079
Speaker 5: No, I'm not concerned with that. I think they'll get there, right. Yeah,

669
00:32:41,079 --> 00:32:43,680
They're gonna need to win another They're gonna need to

670
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,960
win a couple more conference games, that is for sure.

671
00:32:46,039 --> 00:32:48,160
But I still do I still believe that they get there.

672
00:32:49,039 --> 00:32:52,720
It's looking more and more like, you know they're gonna

673
00:32:52,759 --> 00:32:57,559
have that six, seven to eight type seed and it

674
00:32:57,599 --> 00:33:00,000
gets icy. You never know who that who end up.

675
00:33:00,319 --> 00:33:01,839
You know, you end up facing on the other side

676
00:33:01,839 --> 00:33:04,160
if it's a nine to eight, it's kind of risky, right,

677
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:08,039
But I do, like I said, I like Kevin's chances

678
00:33:08,119 --> 00:33:11,960
coaching in tournament. I like the fact that you're dealing

679
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:13,920
with a team that's not seen you before. Once you

680
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,400
get to March Madness, they haven't. Really they can prepare

681
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,920
for you, but it's not something that they've seen, and

682
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,839
so I see as a ceiling. I still think by

683
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,240
you can make a run to the sweet sixteen. I'm

684
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,759
not all the way against that, but again, it's gonna

685
00:33:27,759 --> 00:33:30,119
take some reshaping of the offense and it's gonna need

686
00:33:30,119 --> 00:33:32,319
to be some more comminuity with guys making plays on

687
00:33:32,359 --> 00:33:32,880
all sides.

688
00:33:34,359 --> 00:33:37,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an interesting predicament.

689
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Speaker 3: Like I said many times on the show, our expectations

690
00:33:42,119 --> 00:33:45,440
determine our happiness, and right now, b Yu has the

691
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,359
worst luck, it seems in college basketball. Have you ever

692
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,160
seen this many season ending injuries answid I mean Dawson

693
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,240
Baker going down obviously hurt early on in the year,

694
00:33:54,279 --> 00:33:56,720
Nate Pickens prior to that. I don't know if he

695
00:33:56,799 --> 00:34:00,240
was damaged goods when he arrived and or he got

696
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,400
if he got injured. While at b YU, you have

697
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:09,280
Richie going down, which is devastating. Like this Billy basketball

698
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:14,880
team was still high powered and efficient offensively with Richie.

699
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,719
Now without him, it's Uh, you're hoping that Kennard Davis

700
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,360
and others can step up. But have you ever seen

701
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,079
this many season any injuries before?

702
00:34:23,079 --> 00:34:25,519
Speaker 5: No, I haven't. I think I think they totalled six

703
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:27,239
injuries on the BU at your roster.

704
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Speaker 2: Six injuries, I mean, and Xavi and stateon both out too.

705
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

706
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Speaker 5: I mean we're talking about guys that who were promising

707
00:34:35,039 --> 00:34:36,280
that we I don't even know if they put on

708
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,920
a jersey yet this year, you know, and they're injured

709
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,079
going into the season, So that, I mean, that piece

710
00:34:41,159 --> 00:34:43,480
is definitely alarming. I mean it's hard as a coach.

711
00:34:43,519 --> 00:34:47,000
You don't you're going into your preseason, the regular season,

712
00:34:48,079 --> 00:34:51,679
you know, without a full staff. Uh. Yes, it's concerning.

713
00:34:51,679 --> 00:34:54,039
I've not seen anything like this before, and I think

714
00:34:54,079 --> 00:34:57,400
that's one good thing that that coach Young has under

715
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,440
his belt that hey, we've been like this all year. Right,

716
00:34:59,519 --> 00:35:02,320
we've not been full staff for the entire season, and

717
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,599
we've somehow figured out a way to be a top

718
00:35:04,639 --> 00:35:07,239
twenty five team, and now it's hey, how do we

719
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,519
continue that on? I would love to have seen a

720
00:35:10,119 --> 00:35:14,199
Bernie Kozlowski or a Pickens or even see Staton, you know,

721
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,800
grow and develop, getting some minutes, you know, throughout the

722
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,440
course of the year. But you know, unfortunately that injury blug,

723
00:35:19,519 --> 00:35:21,079
like I said, it hits and it hits hard, and

724
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:25,559
you're kind of left with whatever or whatever is in

725
00:35:25,599 --> 00:35:27,519
the cupboards to try to figure it out.

726
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 3: Yes, Indeed, Anson Winder, former b YU great bucket getter,

727
00:35:33,079 --> 00:35:37,239
talking some BYU Basketball here on your Utah ESPN Radio network.

728
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,280
I feel like Canard Davis has to take a larger

729
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:45,519
role offensively. K Why said in one of the post games,

730
00:35:45,519 --> 00:35:47,760
I think two games ago after Colorado that he had

731
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:52,639
done into service to Canard by kind of pigeonholing him,

732
00:35:52,679 --> 00:35:56,239
pigeonholing him into a catch and shoot and picking pop guy.

733
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,719
Now we're seeing more sets, We're seeing more action for

734
00:36:00,119 --> 00:36:03,880
Canard coming off screens, you know, putting the ball on

735
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:05,639
the floor and getting to the rim, getting to the

736
00:36:05,639 --> 00:36:09,239
free throw line, what role do you expect, what expanded

737
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,159
role do you expect from Cannard Davis Junior down the

738
00:36:12,199 --> 00:36:14,239
stretch his last five games and getting into Big twelve

739
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:15,599
and NCAA tournament play.

740
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:20,079
Speaker 5: I mean, listen, right, there's no one on the roster

741
00:36:20,159 --> 00:36:22,960
can replace the production that you get from Richie. It's

742
00:36:23,079 --> 00:36:26,559
just and just his leadership, just his presence, right is

743
00:36:26,679 --> 00:36:29,639
a stat in itself. I mean, it's hard to replace.

744
00:36:30,039 --> 00:36:31,880
It really is going to be by committee. It's going

745
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,880
to take. It's going to take Moo Davis is going

746
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:39,159
to take. It's going to take all these guys collectively

747
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,280
contributing to try to reach that production of Richie. I

748
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,880
did notice in the game against Arizona that yet they

749
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:50,360
did try to run more sets for for Canard to

750
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,000
get him going, he's going to have to be more

751
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,920
assertivele on offense. I know that hasn't been his his

752
00:36:56,119 --> 00:36:58,679
task through most of the year, but for Uyu to

753
00:36:58,679 --> 00:37:01,480
be successful, he has to to be that third option

754
00:37:01,599 --> 00:37:03,840
because he's the he's the one the next step that

755
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,599
has that ability. So he's gonna have to be able

756
00:37:06,639 --> 00:37:08,960
to stretch the floor make shots. They're gonna lean on

757
00:37:09,039 --> 00:37:11,760
him to create and make plays for others and he

758
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:13,960
has to space the floor. If he's not a weapon

759
00:37:14,039 --> 00:37:17,039
from the three point line, the floor is gonna shrink,

760
00:37:17,079 --> 00:37:19,400
which is gonna make life even harder for Robert Wright

761
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,960
to touch the paint. It's gonna be hard for AJ

762
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,559
to get to his spots. So right now they're just

763
00:37:24,599 --> 00:37:27,320
fighting desperately to figure out who that third and fourth

764
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,960
option will be. And it's gonna say Tar being a

765
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,960
lot more aggressive to do that. I know, in the

766
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:38,400
breakdown of shots selection against Arizona, I think b R,

767
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,480
A J and Rob had the most shots. I'd love

768
00:37:41,559 --> 00:37:44,280
to see, you know, five or six more of those

769
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:48,280
shots from from A J and Rob go to Tanar Davis,

770
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,719
hopefully at the three point line. Right. I think if

771
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:52,880
he can get some confidence in his shot and space

772
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,679
the floor with his three point shooting, that will only help.

773
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,039
And what can you know what coach Young can create

774
00:37:58,079 --> 00:38:00,559
offensively and soon.

775
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 3: I just thought about something I want to get your

776
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:04,760
thoughts on. I didn't prep for this, so I'll give

777
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,360
you a few moments to think about this. I always

778
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:12,000
say mammals need mentorship, right, and whenever you get into BYU,

779
00:38:12,119 --> 00:38:15,719
whether you're LDS non LDS, you need some like you

780
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,039
need a little pep talk, you need some strategy. Everyone

781
00:38:18,079 --> 00:38:20,199
signs the honor code, right, you read through it and

782
00:38:20,199 --> 00:38:22,519
stuff like that. But sometimes you don't know everything that entails.

783
00:38:22,519 --> 00:38:23,920
You don't know about the culture. You don't know about

784
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:25,440
the faith, you don't know about the realigs. You don't

785
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,039
know about the fans, you don't know about the ladies.

786
00:38:27,079 --> 00:38:29,880
You don't know about all the things that that could

787
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:33,599
go could go awrye during your collegiate experience as a

788
00:38:33,599 --> 00:38:37,800
student athlete at BYU, and so like you know, you know,

789
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:39,360
I've mentored a lot of guys when I was there

790
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,320
at by I've mentored on the after b YU. I'm like,

791
00:38:41,639 --> 00:38:45,400
there probably needs to be like an introductory like third

792
00:38:45,559 --> 00:38:50,599
party mentorship program for all student athletes because these are

793
00:38:50,639 --> 00:38:55,000
flag bearers of the university. You're you're signing up, especially

794
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,239
in the NIL era, you're getting more money, you're getting

795
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,880
corporate sponsorship money, you're getting all these things like I've

796
00:39:00,119 --> 00:39:02,639
of like now more than ever, there needs to be

797
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:04,679
like this like third party. They don't have to be

798
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:06,159
a part of BYU, but they have to be like

799
00:39:06,199 --> 00:39:11,000
BYU affiliated, like individuals that know the geography, the culture,

800
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:16,400
the people, the main players, and what's expected to kind

801
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:20,199
of prep these guys and even mentor them throughout the process.

802
00:39:20,199 --> 00:39:23,119
Speaker 2: Give me your thoughts on that, man, I.

803
00:39:23,119 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 5: Think you hit the nail on the head. This is

804
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,079
one thing had had I had that when I was

805
00:39:27,119 --> 00:39:29,320
at BUYU. Had some of my teammates, I'm sure been

806
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,639
if you had that you at BUYU. Not still you didn't,

807
00:39:31,639 --> 00:39:34,960
But I mean, I think anybody with that type of

808
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,440
just guidance and mentorship would thrive. I think I would

809
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,559
have did way better had someone kind of prepped me

810
00:39:40,639 --> 00:39:43,280
for what I was getting myself into when and for

811
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,039
that reason, as soon as I graduated, you know, I

812
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,559
did my best to stay around the program and to

813
00:39:48,599 --> 00:39:52,360
stay involved in the academic center and the athletic academic

814
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,000
Center to try to be you know, that resource. I

815
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,360
think that's brilliant. I think that's absolutely what by you

816
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,440
need us in a unique place, not bad or good.

817
00:40:01,599 --> 00:40:03,679
And when I use the word unique, I'm just saying

818
00:40:03,679 --> 00:40:06,440
it's just different. You know, when it's best or you

819
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,159
know whoever's coming in, whether that be someone from Utah

820
00:40:09,639 --> 00:40:12,079
for someone from athletes out of the state or out

821
00:40:12,079 --> 00:40:15,400
of the country, I think they would benefit them tremendously

822
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,000
just having some type of guidance or someone to lean

823
00:40:18,039 --> 00:40:20,639
on to say, hey, look, I don't quite understand this.

824
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:22,920
What can you explain like what this means or how

825
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:26,000
I go about handling this type of situation. And so yeah,

826
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,960
I totally support that. I'd be something I'd love to

827
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,360
be a part of. As someone who's graduated from YU

828
00:40:31,519 --> 00:40:34,239
and and had success there, you know, I would see

829
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,480
continued success for the program as well. So I mean, whoever,

830
00:40:37,679 --> 00:40:40,440
whoever is on board with trying to build something like this,

831
00:40:40,599 --> 00:40:42,719
I mean, sign me up, because I think it'll only

832
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:44,199
pay dividends in the long run.

833
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:46,599
Speaker 3: And the reason why I bring up third parties because

834
00:40:46,639 --> 00:40:49,800
I mean there's certainly individuals within the football program and

835
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:53,880
the basketball program and the athlete the the athletic department

836
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:58,360
that I think can fill those roles right to a degree.

837
00:40:59,199 --> 00:41:03,119
But I think think in an official capacity, you may

838
00:41:03,159 --> 00:41:06,280
be limited on what you can and can't say. Does

839
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,159
that make sense a little bit, Like you know, like

840
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,400
in an official capacity, you have to be like, hey,

841
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:15,800
like you know, you know, there's certain things you gotta do,

842
00:41:16,519 --> 00:41:19,559
and that's it, Like that's black and white. Whereas as

843
00:41:19,599 --> 00:41:21,159
a third party. You're like, all right, hey man, let

844
00:41:21,199 --> 00:41:24,000
me talk about some gray area here. And I'm not

845
00:41:24,039 --> 00:41:28,679
saying like, you know what I mean, like like you

846
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,719
need like some third party like that that is BYU,

847
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:35,199
tried and true, loyal, strong and truth. That's like, look like,

848
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:37,719
you know, here's a little bit of like some some

849
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,519
gray like on how to navigate.

850
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 2: And they talk about the pros and cons and and.

851
00:41:43,079 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 3: The the nuances and subtleties and mentorship, right, uh and

852
00:41:48,519 --> 00:41:50,159
uh So anyway, it was just the thought that I

853
00:41:50,199 --> 00:41:51,679
had to, like, you know, I'm gonna pitch that over

854
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:53,079
to my guy answered.

855
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,280
Speaker 5: No, I think you know, for someone like me who

856
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:58,599
came in having you know again, I'm not a member

857
00:41:58,639 --> 00:42:01,519
of the faith. I'm than from Utah. I mean, there

858
00:42:01,519 --> 00:42:04,440
are a lot of double negatives against me. Right, It

859
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,039
would have been very nice to have someone there just

860
00:42:07,119 --> 00:42:10,239
as a soundboard to say, hey, look, help me navigate this,

861
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,199
you know what I mean, somebody's gonna shoot me straight,

862
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:16,360
someone who's not paid by YU to say what sounds good.

863
00:42:16,599 --> 00:42:19,400
Someone who's gonna tell me something that's raw and maybe

864
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,360
not the most pleasant or beautiful way of saying something,

865
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,000
but it's the truth, right, And at the end of

866
00:42:24,039 --> 00:42:26,760
the day, we all need the truth. So yeah, not

867
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,679
even just from a day to day I mean, I

868
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,639
think even from a mentorship program long term. Right, let's

869
00:42:32,639 --> 00:42:35,239
talk about how just handling your money. Right, let's talk

870
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,199
about what you want to do after sports? How do

871
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:40,079
you go about setting up your yourself and your family?

872
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,360
You For these athletes who have come into a large

873
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,320
sum of money, Hey, what are you doing with that? Right?

874
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,119
Please don't tell me you're just going to buy a

875
00:42:47,159 --> 00:42:50,559
car and then spending the rest on on on dates.

876
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,679
Like let's let's let's be smart with with what we're

877
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:57,159
doing and make plans for the future that keeps this money,

878
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,480
you know, in house and sustainable long term.

879
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt about it. Ants and winder ladies and gentlemen.

880
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,760
Speaker 3: Former BYU bucket getterre talking some BYU basketball talking some

881
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:09,039
mentorship as well. Final a couple of things here. Anson

882
00:43:09,199 --> 00:43:14,480
was as we finish up through segment, this the trajectory

883
00:43:14,519 --> 00:43:18,639
of BYU basketball. I mean, I think everyone's optimistic, right,

884
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:24,079
like the future looks bright. Give me your opinion on

885
00:43:24,119 --> 00:43:26,920
what has happened here. Okay, I think this is an

886
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:27,719
interesting study.

887
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 2: We broached it. Some people think it's controversial.

888
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:32,519
Speaker 3: I love talking about these things, and you know me

889
00:43:32,599 --> 00:43:36,320
better than anybody because I like delving into these things for.

890
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 2: The longest time.

891
00:43:37,039 --> 00:43:39,599
Speaker 3: BYU was built a certain way, right, You were a

892
00:43:39,639 --> 00:43:43,920
part of a team over a four or five year

893
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:48,480
period that that had you know, traditionally, kind of these

894
00:43:48,639 --> 00:43:52,039
LDS baseline players. You know, maybe from Utah, the Greater

895
00:43:52,119 --> 00:43:54,599
Mountain Western region you have Jim or coming in from

896
00:43:54,639 --> 00:43:57,679
the East Coast. LDS didn't serve a mission. There's always

897
00:43:57,679 --> 00:44:00,280
those little like dynamics. You'll have maybe a you go

898
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,079
player or two or or what have you, right, and

899
00:44:03,159 --> 00:44:06,039
you have what I would deem is the double minorities,

900
00:44:06,159 --> 00:44:08,000
or you bring in a guy like Charles A. Buo

901
00:44:08,039 --> 00:44:10,679
who's at a prep school and all you know, it's

902
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:14,159
like peppering what we're seeing now. And it happened to

903
00:44:14,199 --> 00:44:17,960
the Mark Pope era, uh, the starting five at one

904
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:21,159
point with the Mark Pope. None of them lds, all

905
00:44:21,199 --> 00:44:24,320
of them brothers, brothers like you had.

906
00:44:24,639 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 2: I think it was Rudy Williams.

907
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:33,320
Speaker 3: It was oh gosh, I was yeah, foos foos is loose, right,

908
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,559
there was a there was like a I mean, it

909
00:44:35,679 --> 00:44:36,159
was awesome.

910
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,280
Speaker 2: It was I celebrated it. It was it was awesome.

911
00:44:39,679 --> 00:44:42,800
Speaker 3: And right now, with all the injuries that have happened

912
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:46,159
Ritchie Dawson, there's not an LDS.

913
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:49,280
Speaker 2: Player that's playing right now. Bro, Brody's out. All the

914
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:53,159
LDIS guys are out right now. It's pretty crazy, bro Like,

915
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:53,880
And I'm wondering.

916
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,599
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, what does the future of BOU basketball

917
00:44:56,639 --> 00:44:58,480
look like? And you know me, dude, I just want

918
00:44:58,519 --> 00:45:01,880
good basketball and people to sign up to represent b YU,

919
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:03,400
be a part of the honor code. But what does

920
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,360
the future view or your basketball look like? From like

921
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:10,440
a demographic stamper, from a religious standpoint, Yeah, no.

922
00:45:10,519 --> 00:45:12,079
Speaker 5: I think a lot of that went out the window

923
00:45:12,159 --> 00:45:15,440
been when when this NIL era ushered its way in.

924
00:45:15,639 --> 00:45:18,880
And I think you're spot on right, Pope coach Pope

925
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,079
before us and went to Kentucky, Right, he was kind

926
00:45:21,079 --> 00:45:23,320
of bushering in that new era. And then on top

927
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:25,840
of that, right you factoring in IL and and just

928
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,239
the transfer portal as a whole, And that's changed the

929
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,199
whole dynamic for a lot of schools, not even just BYU.

930
00:45:31,639 --> 00:45:33,440
And I think it's it's forced a lot of schools

931
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,280
who traditionally would recruit a certain way to say, Okay,

932
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:37,599
we need to get out of the box a little

933
00:45:37,599 --> 00:45:41,360
bit if we want to be successful. Right, there's so

934
00:45:41,519 --> 00:45:45,079
much change that happened for just BYU specifically, whether you

935
00:45:45,119 --> 00:45:49,039
talk about changes in conference, changes in coaching, athletic directors,

936
00:45:49,119 --> 00:45:52,039
just overall landscape, so many changes. I think this is

937
00:45:52,119 --> 00:45:55,920
b why you trying to stay as competitive as involved

938
00:45:55,960 --> 00:46:00,320
as possible. But now it's going to take the the

939
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,639
culture around it to adjust to some of these changes too,

940
00:46:03,639 --> 00:46:07,199
because I think from a football and basketball perspective, coaching

941
00:46:07,199 --> 00:46:10,280
wise and and team wise, they're ready for those changes

942
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:13,719
and and and those revisions to how we go about

943
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,400
recruiting and building a roster. But now it's just the

944
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,280
culture as a whole within BYU has that has that

945
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:22,079
thought process changed there as well, because you're SPA been there.

946
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,719
It's definitely a roster now that's it's mixed. It's not

947
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ninety percent LDS anymore like it used to be. And

948
00:46:29,639 --> 00:46:32,119
and that's not that's not a bad thing. I think

949
00:46:32,199 --> 00:46:35,119
it's it's just that variety and diversity that I think

950
00:46:35,199 --> 00:46:39,880
by U needs but also too will help stay competitive

951
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:41,400
at the end of the day, no doubt.

952
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it was Rudy Williams, Jackson Robinson, Gideon George.

953
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:46,679
I want to say it was Foos and maybe even

954
00:46:46,679 --> 00:46:48,280
a tiki ali Atiki.

955
00:46:48,679 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 2: Was that lineup? And uh it was. It was obviously

956
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,599
it was monumental. I mean it was something that that

957
00:46:56,159 --> 00:46:59,039
had never you know, been seen before. You know, no

958
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:05,239
lds and there's no traditional BYU guys in the lineup.

959
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:06,920
So I find it interesting.

960
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,840
Speaker 3: And that's what we're seeing right now, and it's pretty

961
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,360
fun to watch. It's great basketball, Top twenty five basketball.

962
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,400
I just wish we didn't have so many freaking injuries.

963
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:18,320
But it's pretty crazy to see the bad luck that

964
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,719
has also followed b Way this year.

965
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:22,280
Speaker 2: I've never seen anything like it. Answered.

966
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 3: We appreciate you, We love you, man, and can't wait

967
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:27,719
to catch up with you again soon. We'll be seeing

968
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,000
you later tonight, brother, Thanks for hopping on. And one

969
00:47:30,079 --> 00:47:32,880
last thing, actually, you are one of the assistant coaches

970
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:38,480
over there at Wassatch Academy. Wassatch Academy has some great

971
00:47:38,519 --> 00:47:40,719
players this year. Give us a little breakdown what's going

972
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:41,840
on with Wassatch Academy.

973
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:46,119
Speaker 5: I love it, Thanks, Ben, I appreciate you. Yes, Watside Academy.

974
00:47:46,119 --> 00:47:48,199
We're killing and man, we're on a fifteen game win streak.

975
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:51,719
We won fifteen games straight. We haven't lost since December eighteenth,

976
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:55,400
to be exact. The guys are the right seventh in

977
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:58,599
the country right now. We have three games left, so

978
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,280
we play two games this weekend. We played the number

979
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,639
three team in the country by the name of Arizona

980
00:48:03,679 --> 00:48:07,960
Compass Uh and then we have Utah Prep, the former

981
00:48:08,079 --> 00:48:11,679
school of AJ Debonsa. We play them next Friday. So

982
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we're riding. We're winding down on our regular season. We'll

983
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:20,679
go to Georgia in March for our conference tournament and

984
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:22,559
hope to make some noise there. As we all know,

985
00:48:22,639 --> 00:48:26,239
March madness can be a very interesting time for us,

986
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:28,519
so we're just hoping that to get hot and continue

987
00:48:28,519 --> 00:48:30,760
to ride the waves. I mean, it's been fun to

988
00:48:31,159 --> 00:48:34,559
watch this group. Me personally. I've recruited a lot of

989
00:48:34,599 --> 00:48:37,440
these kids since they were you know, early high school,

990
00:48:37,559 --> 00:48:39,800
even middle school, so I've known them for a long

991
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:43,320
time and so to see them get to this status

992
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,639
where their upperclassmen and having success, I mean, it's it's

993
00:48:46,679 --> 00:48:50,079
beautiful to see. I think we have we have aspirations

994
00:48:50,079 --> 00:48:52,400
to to not only win our conference, but to go

995
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:55,360
on and hopefully win a national championship. So we you know,

996
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:57,360
we're going to continue to put in the work, put

997
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,800
in the time, and and hopefully we can raise a

998
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:01,239
band are here in the next few weeks.

999
00:49:01,519 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 2: Love it man.

1000
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:08,199
Speaker 3: Any players that are getting recruited by the local schools BYU, oh.

1001
00:49:08,039 --> 00:49:12,039
Speaker 5: Good question. So we do have two seniors on our

1002
00:49:12,079 --> 00:49:16,480
team right now who are uncommitted. I don't know with

1003
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:20,159
how many Utah schools are actually on them, but this

1004
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:23,000
is a shameless plug if you are not to give

1005
00:49:23,079 --> 00:49:25,480
him a shout out. We have a seven footer from

1006
00:49:25,519 --> 00:49:31,039
Serbian from Serbia by the name of Vukasorenovich. He is

1007
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:35,760
a legit seven feet lesti, super skilled, is having a

1008
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:39,639
great senior season. This is his first year playing basketball

1009
00:49:39,679 --> 00:49:42,239
in the States, so he's learned a lot. He's come

1010
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:44,719
a long way, and I think he'll continue to blossom.

1011
00:49:45,039 --> 00:49:46,559
And then we have a kid from New York by

1012
00:49:46,559 --> 00:49:50,400
the name of Chitty Mwigway who is the six seven

1013
00:49:50,679 --> 00:49:55,679
Kawhi Leonard type, long arms, big hands, super athletic, just

1014
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:59,400
wire Reframe who's also un committed as well. So both

1015
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:03,199
guys start for us having phenomenal senior years, and I

1016
00:50:03,199 --> 00:50:07,519
expect them to make some some pretty uh robust decisions

1017
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:09,280
as far as where they go to school here in

1018
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:11,239
the next few weeks. And then of course then we

1019
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:13,440
have our three our three headed Monster, which is a

1020
00:50:14,039 --> 00:50:17,880
junior County who is going to Yukon next year, Katroll

1021
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:21,159
Hartman who's going to to Creighton, and then Marian mu

1022
00:50:21,199 --> 00:50:23,239
Manzel who will be a Stephen F. Austin next year,

1023
00:50:23,639 --> 00:50:27,039
uh playing for them. So we've got a great starting five.

1024
00:50:27,159 --> 00:50:30,800
I would love selfishly to see more of our guys

1025
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:33,360
go to Buyu just because of the relationship and the

1026
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:36,079
tide I mean nuts family over there. And then I

1027
00:50:36,119 --> 00:50:38,239
hope a in the years because you to come, we

1028
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:39,920
can we can see some of our guys wear more

1029
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:40,800
bo jerseys.

1030
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Speaker 3: Love it man, ain't so much. Love to you one

1031
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:45,440
love man. We'll catch up with the end soon. Thanks

1032
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:46,679
for hopping off for a little keeping up with the

1033
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:48,960
Cougars and let's get you into an Odion men's wear suit.

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I'll send you the deats on that we got to

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Speaker 5: Let's go. I appreciate you then, love you brother much.

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