Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray WBS Costin's new radio.
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you, Dan Watkins. As we move into the
Speaker 2: ten o'clock hour, it's in ten and eight and gonna
Speaker 2: talk a little politics. It's only twenty twenty five, and
Speaker 2: in a year from now we will be really moving
Speaker 2: into the summer of an election year. But it's not
Speaker 2: never too early to talk about politics. And there's an
Speaker 2: interesting poll that was released this weekend. Actually it was
Speaker 2: released on the twenty ninth of May, which is let's see,
Speaker 2: I think that would have been last Thursday, by the
Speaker 2: University of New Hampshire. And apparently they do a lot
Speaker 2: of polling at the University of New Hampshire, and they
Speaker 2: did a very comprehensive poll here in Massachusetts, and it
Speaker 2: dealt with a lot of issues, very in depth, which
Speaker 2: again i'll just read to you a little bit of it,
Speaker 2: and it's always tough on numbers, but we'll get to
Speaker 2: the heart of it. Massive they concluded that Massachusetts residents,
Speaker 2: this is by the University of New Hampshire, what's called
Speaker 2: State of Opinion Project. It's the Bay State Poll. Massachusetts
Speaker 2: residence back Harvard in fight with Trump, but unsure on
Speaker 2: Healey and Marquee re elections. Governor Healey and Senator Markey
Speaker 2: will stand for election in twenty twenty. Six stand for reelection,
Speaker 2: and about a third of Massachusetts residents approve of President
Speaker 2: Trump's handling of the economy, foreign policy, and overall job performance.
Speaker 2: Majorities of base state who say that the US is
Speaker 2: not doing enough to back Ukraine and that it is
Speaker 2: inappro brief for Trump to accept a jet from Cutter.
Speaker 2: Six in ten Massachusetts residents disapprove of Trump's administer of
Speaker 2: the Trump administration's treatment of Harvard University, half of base
Speaker 2: state of half of base Staters approve of Massachusetts Governor
Speaker 2: mar Healey's performance, and residents are about evenly divided on
Speaker 2: whether she deserves to be re elected. Residents are less
Speaker 2: likely to say that Senator Ed Markey deserves to be
Speaker 2: re elected, and a majority of concerned about his age. Well,
Speaker 2: when you look at the pole that we're talking about here,
Speaker 2: we have the poll that deals with Governor Healy. Mar
Speaker 2: Healey says she's seeking a second term as governor of Massachusetts.
Speaker 2: There are many, by the way, who believe that if
Speaker 2: she successfully is reelected as governor, that her eyes are
Speaker 2: actually set a little further south in twenty twenty eight,
Speaker 2: meaning the Potomac Washington Dcate. She's never going to admit that,
Speaker 2: but that's fine, no problem. So, amongst the Massachusetts voters,
Speaker 2: thirty seven percent were asked about whether she deserves reelection.
Speaker 2: Only thirty seven percent said she deserves to be reelected.
Speaker 2: That's not a huge number for an incumbent governor, particularly
Speaker 2: an incumbent Democratic governor in a state like Massachusetts. Forty percent,
Speaker 2: just a little more say she does not deserve to
Speaker 2: be reelected. Now, again, numbers are difficult, but thirty seven
Speaker 2: percent say she deserves to be reelected, forty percent say
Speaker 2: she does not. That leaves a little less than a
Speaker 2: quarter who have no opinion. Now, amongst Democrats she does
Speaker 2: very well sixty percent, but she's not even at fifty
Speaker 2: percent amongst Democrats in terms of deserving to be re elected.
Speaker 2: Amongst Republicans, she has a fraction like four percent. But
Speaker 2: here's where it gets interesting. Amongst independence, which is a
Speaker 2: large group in Massachusetts, thirty two percent say she deserves
Speaker 2: to be reelected, So she doesn't do well amongst Independence,
Speaker 2: and forty seven percent as of now says she does
Speaker 2: not deserve to be reelected. Those numbers should worry the
Speaker 2: Healey administration and should worry Governor Healey. Amongst Marquee, numbers
Speaker 2: are surprisingly similar, but a third of the voters think
Speaker 2: that Ed Markey should be re elected. A higher group
Speaker 2: forty three percent compared to forty percent with Governor Healey,
Speaker 2: think that neither deserve to be re elected, and the
Speaker 2: undecided vote is a little bigger on Markee twenty five percent.
Speaker 2: Amongst independent voters at Marquee, a majority believe he should
Speaker 2: not be re elected. So that would suggest that even
Speaker 2: in Massachusetts, we might have we just might have a
Speaker 2: competitive race in twenty twenty six for the two top
Speaker 2: spots the Governor's seat the Beacon Hill the corner office
Speaker 2: as it's called, and one of the Senates, one of
Speaker 2: the Senate seats. So what I want to do is
Speaker 2: I want to open up the phones and I'd like
Speaker 2: to hear from Healey supporters or people who don't support Heally.
Speaker 2: I'd love to know if there are people out there
Speaker 2: who wanted to tell me if the election were held today,
Speaker 2: would they vote to return Governor Healey to the Corner
Speaker 2: Office or would they look for either of the Republican candidates.
Speaker 2: We've had the two Republican candidates on within the last
Speaker 2: week or so. Actually, I think it was a little
Speaker 2: longer than that. Lasted a couple of weeks we had
Speaker 2: Brian short Sleeve and Mike Kinneely, both of whom are
Speaker 2: pretty impressive candidates, and they have raised some serious money.
Speaker 2: They have a long way to go, obviously, and as
Speaker 2: a Republican you're always going to be an underdog in Massachusetts.
Speaker 2: There's no Republican who officially has announced to run against
Speaker 2: Ed Markey. But this poll, which is again I think
Speaker 2: a pretty comprehensive poll, in one that people will look at.
Speaker 2: The headline in the Herald today, Healey's performance not popular,
Speaker 2: new poll finds. So I just would love to hear
Speaker 2: from some of you right now as to whether or
Speaker 2: not if are you inclined to return Governor Healy for
Speaker 2: another four years? Are you inclined to send Ed Markey
Speaker 2: back to the US Senate for another six years, or
Speaker 2: are you going to look for some alternative? Now, again,
Speaker 2: we don't know who would be the Republican nominee to
Speaker 2: run against Markey, a little early for that, and we're
Speaker 2: not sure which of these two Republicans, Brian Shortsleeve or
Speaker 2: Mike Kenney, both of them, as they say, joined us
Speaker 2: last week, not last week the week before that, excuse me,
Speaker 2: So they were they were here with us in the
Speaker 2: in the last the second last week of May six
Speaker 2: one seven, two thirty six one seven, nine three one
Speaker 2: ten thirty. Again, I just think this poll is interesting.
Speaker 2: I'm surprised at the weakness that both of the incumbent
Speaker 2: Democrats seem to have. This is a comprehensive poll, and
Speaker 2: I think it's based upon having looked at what I
Speaker 2: call the internals. I think this is an accurate snapshot
Speaker 2: in time. And I'd love to know if you have
Speaker 2: always voted Democratic and you're going to vote Democratic again,
Speaker 2: or if you have always voted Democratic and maybe want
Speaker 2: to switch it up. Conversely, if you did not vote
Speaker 2: for either Healey or Marque in their last elections, uh,
Speaker 2: if you feel that, hey, they deserve reelection. I'm always
Speaker 2: looking for people who are telling me that, uh, yeah,
Speaker 2: I was with them, I'm not anymore, or guess what
Speaker 2: I've come to to to light them more. Six one
Speaker 2: seven two thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty.
Speaker 2: If if this topic is not one that lights it up.
Speaker 2: There's a couple of other topics I can go to,
Speaker 2: but this is one I'd like to try. I'd like
Speaker 2: to see if my audience is it all aligned with
Speaker 2: this poll.
Speaker 3: Or not.
Speaker 2: That's what we're talking about here at night Side. It's
Speaker 2: the ten o'clock hour, Join the conversation, trying to keep
Speaker 2: it positive and polite. That's what this show is all about. No, no
Speaker 2: hitting below the belt. Okay, thanks very much. Moving back
Speaker 2: on night Side with some phone calls right after this.
Speaker 1: You're on night Side with Dan Ray one you BZ
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Speaker 2: Let's go to the phone is going to go first
Speaker 2: off to John in den Him. Hey, John, welcome, first
Speaker 2: up this hour and Nightside. Thanks for checking in. What's
Speaker 2: your thought on Let's start with Governor Heally?
Speaker 4: Well, before I comment on her quick question to my
Speaker 4: own information, you had the State honor on the other
Speaker 4: night and I sar and Sham five. I think she's
Speaker 4: incredible about the about auditing the legislature. Yeah, yeah, correct,
Speaker 4: Where has Heally decided on what such? Do you know
Speaker 4: if Heally's lean on either side of my understanding?
Speaker 2: My understanding from the state auditor who's a Democrat, is
Speaker 2: that Healey is not supporting her in her efforts. It's
Speaker 2: sort of a you know, she's a constitutional officer as
Speaker 2: the state order. She's one of the six elected statewide,
Speaker 2: as is heally, the governor, the Lieutenant governor of the
Speaker 2: attorney general, the state auditor, the state treasurer, and I
Speaker 2: missed and the Secretary of State. So you got there
Speaker 2: are six people who are elected statewide. She was elected statewide.
Speaker 2: And also that there was a poll on that issue.
Speaker 2: That's seventy two percent of the voters a ballot issue
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty two. Excuse me, in twenty twenty four,
Speaker 2: wanted that the auditor to have the ability to audit
Speaker 2: the state legislature, and the state legislator has frustrated audited
Speaker 2: Dizaglio and Governor Healy has not come out in favor
Speaker 2: of an audit of the state legislature.
Speaker 4: So she did explain it very well on your TV.
Speaker 4: And I'm sure, like a lot of voters, I'm not
Speaker 4: too happy about that. But when you had to go
Speaker 4: to the topic of the evening, you had Brian Shortsleeve
Speaker 4: on a week or two. Yeah, yeah, Alaria with them yeah.
Speaker 2: I had him and I had Mike Kennely on I
Speaker 2: thought they both did very well. Shortly best known as
Speaker 2: having been the interim head of the MBTA, and Kennealy
Speaker 2: was a secretary, a cabinet secretary under Governor Baker, so
Speaker 2: they both have genuine government experience, and I thought that
Speaker 2: they both presented themselves very very impressively.
Speaker 4: That was and it's basically information I have now, and
Speaker 4: it's not a lot, but on that railing, I think
Speaker 4: missus Shaw has definitely got my vote, and heally, I'm
Speaker 4: just disappointed with where she's gone, especially recently watching them.
Speaker 4: Not sure if you saw the press conference day with
Speaker 4: Ice and the arrests they made in Boston, and if
Speaker 4: even a fraction of that is true, if I remember
Speaker 4: the primary responsiblity the government's protected citizens, and I think
Speaker 4: she failed miserably on that. If she played any part
Speaker 4: in keeping these people from Ice and our cooperating with Ice,
Speaker 4: that was I couldn't believe the statistics.
Speaker 2: Well, no, no, she has instructed the state police not
Speaker 2: to cooperate with Ice, and they rely upon this Supreme
Speaker 2: Court decision called the Lund decision, which to me is
Speaker 2: a very confusing decision and that goes it goes in
Speaker 2: direct contradiction, in my opinion of you, a Supreme Court decision,
Speaker 2: the Arizona decision in twenty eleven, where basically the Supreme
Speaker 2: Court went and said that immigration law is preempted by
Speaker 2: the federal government and they knocked down some efforts by
Speaker 2: a governor of Arizona at the time, Governor Brewer, to
Speaker 2: have stricter laws they are actually a border state, and
Speaker 2: the Supreme Court said, nope, federal government is the one
Speaker 2: who determines federal immigration law. And it just seems to me.
Speaker 4: That regardless of the Court that the fact is that
Speaker 4: if he knew there's these criminals, convicted criminals, known criminals,
Speaker 4: and she's not turned them over, forget running gag. I
Speaker 4: think she should resign immediately.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I don't think. I don't think that you
Speaker 2: can prove or anyone can prove that Governor Healey or
Speaker 2: any other public official has sheltered anyone. I'm sure that
Speaker 2: there are some pretty bad people who have come to
Speaker 2: Massachusetts because it's perceived as a sanctuary state.
Speaker 4: State police not to cooperate with ice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I think that's very clear. She appoints the
Speaker 2: state police commander, the commandant of the of this of
Speaker 2: what they call the colonel of the state police here
Speaker 2: in Massachusetts. And that's that's true. Let me ask you,
Speaker 2: did you vote for her last time around or were
Speaker 2: you not a supporter?
Speaker 4: I was not a supporter. Okay, I'll vote Democratic a
Speaker 4: pay up again. I don't care about the party. I'll
Speaker 4: vote for who I think is best.
Speaker 2: Okay. But what I'm saying is so she's not losing
Speaker 2: a vote with you, is the point I'm trying to make.
Speaker 2: All right, John, But go ahead. I'm sorry. Did I
Speaker 2: interrupt you?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 4: Yeah, sorry, real quick. I'll just say say this. I
Speaker 4: just asked you, if the Massachusetts voters do your homework,
Speaker 4: do your due diligence, don't just vote on the party lines.
Speaker 4: Just don't vote for somebody because you voted from all
Speaker 4: your life at the parties. I wish just these people
Speaker 4: would just do their due diligence before they make their vote.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, they're they're they're more than half the
Speaker 2: voters in Massachusetts are now registered as unenrolled. I think
Speaker 2: the Democrats have about thirty five percent roughly, and the
Speaker 2: Republicans have like eleven percent and more than half are
Speaker 2: now unenrolled voters. They they make up the largest a
Speaker 2: group of affiliated voters. So both parties neither party is
Speaker 2: attracting the loyal voters of what of times past? And
Speaker 2: this this poll is I think raises some pretty serious
Speaker 2: questions as to whether or not some money might come
Speaker 2: in here on this campaign upcoming, because if any one
Speaker 2: of these campaigns are considered to be a fool's errand well,
Speaker 2: a lot of the money stays out of the race.
Speaker 2: But once it appears that maybe in company is a
Speaker 2: little bit more vulnerable than they were expected, then money
Speaker 2: comes in. And whoever wins the Republican nomination, whether it's
Speaker 2: short sleeve, your guy or kneely, will have I think
Speaker 2: more money to handle. And of course heally will get
Speaker 2: more money because the Democrats will want to hold a seat.
Speaker 2: So it's going to get interesting. And where this is
Speaker 2: the first time we've touched it today only because the
Speaker 2: UNH has released this poll. If you get a chance
Speaker 2: to read the poll, it's a really, I think a
Speaker 2: solid interesting poll, and that's why I'm bringing it to
Speaker 2: everyone's attention tonight Tough One Radio to talk numbers. But
Speaker 2: thanks for joining us. John very much appreciated. Thanks talk again,
Speaker 2: good night. All right, we're going to take quick break here.
Speaker 2: I got wide open lines. Well, I'm going to go
Speaker 2: to Stephen Worcester next, and I got in line six one,
Speaker 2: seven two, five four ten thirty or six months, seven
Speaker 2: nine three one ten thirty. I think politics is a
Speaker 2: sport here in Massachusetts, right along with baseball, football, hockey,
Speaker 2: and basketball. And I think that this poll, maybe you
Speaker 2: haven't seen it, I've reported it to you directly. It
Speaker 2: would seem to me that Governor Healy has some work
Speaker 2: to do if she wants to get re elected. I
Speaker 2: don't think that that she is in huge trouble at
Speaker 2: the moment, but I think that the rumblings are there
Speaker 2: in this poll. I'd love to get your take on it.
Speaker 2: Feel free you have the number six one seven two,
Speaker 2: five four to ten thirty or six months seven nine
Speaker 2: three one ten thirty. The question is pretty simple. Governor
Speaker 2: Marra Heally does she deserve to be re elected? Senator
Speaker 2: Ed Markey does he deserve to be re elected? This
Speaker 2: is an overwhelmingly democratic state, There's no question about that.
Speaker 2: We really have two major parties in Massachusetts, the Democrats
Speaker 2: and the unenrolled. The Republicans are a fraction of what
Speaker 2: each of those are. Feel free to join the conversation.
Speaker 2: We'll carry this maybe until eleven o'clock I'd like to,
Speaker 2: and if not, we'll we'll move on to something else.
Speaker 2: We're coming right back on Night Side. It's Night Side.
Speaker 1: Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Dan Watkins. We will get to the Karen
Speaker 2: Reid trial, not tonight, but probably sometime later this week
Speaker 2: because now the defense ran into some choppy waters today.
Speaker 2: We'll have to see how that works out. Okay, let's
Speaker 2: keep rolling here. We're talking about a poll out of
Speaker 2: the University of New Hampshire that, interestingly enough, showed that
Speaker 2: in Massachusetts, Donald Trump's approval rating had gone up a
Speaker 2: point from March. Interesting. I would that surprises me a
Speaker 2: little bit. After all of the tariffs, et cetera, and
Speaker 2: his disapproval rating went down. He still is two to one,
Speaker 2: on the wrong side of two to one here. But
Speaker 2: in that same poll, there's suggestions that perhaps Governor Heally
Speaker 2: and Senator Marky may not have a cake walk to
Speaker 2: re election and may actually have a problem coming up.
Speaker 2: Let's see what people think gonna go next to Steve
Speaker 2: in Worcester. Got a couple of lines open if you
Speaker 2: want to join us. Steve, you are next on Nightside.
Speaker 3: Welcome, Hi Dan, Thanks thanks for taking my call. Thanks,
Speaker 3: I've listened many times. I appreciate your program and the
Speaker 3: way that you get in depth into issues.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 3: I think I think I think the problem with Heally
Speaker 3: is that she is just following the party notion that
Speaker 3: we should be an empathetic, sympathetic, open arm country and
Speaker 3: welcome anybody in. It's almost like something religious. We've learned
Speaker 3: after nine to eleven and other events that you have
Speaker 3: to pay more attention. I don't think people walk into
Speaker 3: your house unannounced if you don't know them, and the
Speaker 3: country should be the same way. I'm for immigration. I
Speaker 3: own a business that's filled full of immigrants. They're legal,
Speaker 3: they're hardworking, they're great people, but they're not criminals.
Speaker 4: That's it.
Speaker 3: I think that the last three administrations, Biden and the
Speaker 3: two Obamas, they talk tough, but it's been kind of
Speaker 3: an open door, especially with Biden.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I think you're right on, especially with Biden.
Speaker 2: Because President Obama deported I think about three million people.
Speaker 3: I don't know. It doesn't get talked about much. She
Speaker 3: did deport a lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I left so unhappy with him. And as a
Speaker 2: matter of fact, the left, many in the left, on
Speaker 2: the hard left, nicknamed him the deporter in chief. Whether
Speaker 2: or not Donald Trump wrest that title from President Obama
Speaker 2: former President Obama, remains to be seen. So did you
Speaker 2: have you? Did you ever support Heally? So you're not
Speaker 2: a vote that's leaving Healey here?
Speaker 3: No, I'm not.
Speaker 2: And what's your thought on Markey? I mean, Markey has
Speaker 2: the complication also of he'll be seventy nine when he
Speaker 2: runs for reelection, and that apparently that's not a concern
Speaker 2: for Heally. She's not anywhere close to that. But that's
Speaker 2: for Markey as well.
Speaker 3: Markey is just a Marky is just a career politician,
Speaker 3: and he he follows his mind as to what he
Speaker 3: thinks is important. And in this state, you know what
Speaker 3: this state is. I've lived here my whole life, and
Speaker 3: I can't say too often I vote for if I
Speaker 3: want to stay in business.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I know I get that, but well
Speaker 2: I don't know that they can do anything to you
Speaker 2: in terms of business. But the point is that Massachusetts,
Speaker 2: in my lifetime and in your lifetime. You think about
Speaker 2: Governor Baker, you think about Governor Romney, Governor Governor Salucci,
Speaker 2: acting Governor Swift, Governor weld Ed King was a governor
Speaker 2: and he was a very different type of Democrat. Frank
Speaker 2: Sergeant was governor. John Volpi was governor. We've had a
Speaker 2: lot of Republican governors in Massachusetts.
Speaker 3: My father told me when I was a little boy
Speaker 3: that the governors in this state are quite often Republican,
Speaker 3: even though everything else is democratic, because the governor is
Speaker 3: in charge of finances more than you know the congressional people.
Speaker 2: Right. And what I'm saying is, but if you look
Speaker 2: at these poll numbers from the University of New Hampshire Pole,
Speaker 2: which has came out last week, Heally's got a potential
Speaker 2: problem here. I mean, if I'm if I'm Healey's campaign manager,
Speaker 2: I'm looking at these numbers and say, WHOA, I don't
Speaker 2: like what I see here, And maybe that maybe voters
Speaker 2: in Massachusetts republican and independence primarily Democrats are going to
Speaker 2: pretty much stay in line, as this poll indicates. But
Speaker 2: even even overall amongst Democratic voters, there's there's a there's
Speaker 2: eleven percent of Democratic voters, which is not a lot,
Speaker 2: but eleven percent of Democratic voters who say Governor Healy
Speaker 2: does not deserve to be elected. That's a number, and
Speaker 2: forty seven percent of independence, which is a big number,
Speaker 2: certainly amongst Republicans. It's eighty three percent. You take those
Speaker 2: numbers today, and that is a If those numbers were
Speaker 2: to hold or to get worse, she would not be reelected.
Speaker 3: I understand what you're doing, and I agree with you.
Speaker 3: She's she's following the whims of her heart and the people, yep,
Speaker 3: and just doing whatever she wants to do and snubbing
Speaker 3: her nose at the federal government. All right, look what
Speaker 3: this ants did to Martha's vineyard or Nantucket wherever he
Speaker 3: sent that plane at Martha's vineyard, Wake up Massachusetts.
Speaker 2: Martha's video on the Dame Martha's Vineyard, welcomed those immigrants
Speaker 2: for about great for thirty six hours, and they put
Speaker 2: them on a bus to the Cape, you know, which
Speaker 2: was I thought disgraceful at the time, But that's I
Speaker 2: tend to see things a little differently sometimes, Steve, thank you,
Speaker 2: thank you for your call. Always great here from Worcester.
Speaker 3: Thank you much, thank you very much. Thank you.
Speaker 2: Dan okay six one seven, two, five four ten thirty
Speaker 2: if you want to get in or six one seven
Speaker 2: nine three one ten thirty. Let me go to Greg
Speaker 2: in Dorchester. Greg, welcome back. How are you, sir?
Speaker 5: Hey Ken, thanks for taking away Carl.
Speaker 2: You're welcome. Did you have a good dorchesterday on Sunday?
Speaker 5: I didn't even go to it. I used to go
Speaker 5: years ago. With things to change, I mean the younger crowd.
Speaker 2: And that's okay, that's wrong with that.
Speaker 5: So and I live on the other side of them,
Speaker 5: not too far from college hype there, I'm up her
Speaker 5: own crocodile.
Speaker 2: Are exactly where that is. I'd had my friend jacked
Speaker 2: already on the other night.
Speaker 5: Yeah, great guy, great guy.
Speaker 2: So what do you what do you think? I know
Speaker 2: you probably haven't read this poll, but I've tried to
Speaker 2: give you. It's always tough to talk numbers, but just
Speaker 2: give you a sense that there's a lot in this poll.
Speaker 2: If I were mar Heally, I'd be a little concerned
Speaker 2: about these.
Speaker 5: Numbers, and be concerned, and I'd be happy. I'd be
Speaker 5: happy to see her go.
Speaker 2: Really. Yeah, have you voted for her before? No? Okay,
Speaker 2: so you're not you're not going to cost her a vote.
Speaker 5: That's sorry. I couldn't vote for her.
Speaker 2: For what about what about Marky Senator Markey?
Speaker 5: He should have signed.
Speaker 2: Okay, so you want him out before twenty twenty six?
Speaker 5: Oah, yeah, I think Kennedy will come up. And I
Speaker 5: think here, I've been their own politicians for a long
Speaker 5: time and that year and Mary Walls is getting kendebitch
Speaker 5: and he might rule against Macre, either him or Charlie Baker.
Speaker 2: I don't think Baker's going to give up. Baker's making
Speaker 2: eleven million dollars as I understand it with the NCAA,
Speaker 2: and I think.
Speaker 5: That Dnnie Walsh is making big money too, but he's not.
Speaker 2: Making he's making supposed he's supposed he making three which
Speaker 2: is big money, don't get me wrong, but it's it's
Speaker 2: that's about a quarter of the eleven that Bakers make.
Speaker 2: You know what.
Speaker 5: I wasn't the political thing there About a month ago
Speaker 5: a fundraiser I won't mention the name, friend, friend of yours, okay,
Speaker 5: And I was talking to that guy close to Marie Walsh,
Speaker 5: and he told me he was getting kind of witchy.
Speaker 5: He's like he'd like to try something else.
Speaker 2: I think, well, you know the thing about money wa
Speaker 2: wash is one. He's a lot younger than people think,
Speaker 2: meaning he was mayor for a long time. Yeah, but
Speaker 2: he's in his early fifties if I'm correct here.
Speaker 5: Okay, that's right, you're right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and uh and sometimes uh, people in their early
Speaker 2: fifties say, you know what, I've done this long enough.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think it's tough to walk away.
Speaker 2: I think he likes the job that he has. I
Speaker 2: don't think.
Speaker 5: I don't know. I know him for a long time.
Speaker 5: I'm a friend that I remember when he was dying. Oh,
Speaker 5: I know, he had leukemi and I used to visit
Speaker 5: him in the hospital. He used to speak peace and them.
Speaker 5: Hospital foods is terrible, but he was very sick. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and he's a great, great grind. The family, the family,
Speaker 5: a great, great family altogether.
Speaker 2: No, I came. I came to like Mayor Walls a lot,
Speaker 2: and he's.
Speaker 5: Yeah, mat he should should. I was to guard the shirt,
Speaker 5: I mean miss Ricardo. All of them crowded like I
Speaker 5: think Mary Walsh had a story and the goal there
Speaker 5: a couple of weeks ago. Got the trouble with the
Speaker 5: Democrats is they didn't have a they didn't have a message,
Speaker 5: and they don't have a message.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I'm looking back on that race and
Speaker 2: I'm saying to myself, how was it that Harris the
Speaker 2: vice president picked the guy from Minnesota who turned out
Speaker 2: to be a buffet? Yeah? Matter of fact, he Oh,
Speaker 2: if I can find this here real quickly, I want
Speaker 2: I want to play this for you because you'll get
Speaker 2: a kick out of this. Rob. There's one sound bite
Speaker 2: I'm trying to find here real quickly, and Rob, if
Speaker 2: you can pull cut number sixteen, this is a hysterical
Speaker 2: sound by This is Tim Walls. I want to know
Speaker 2: how the people of Minnesota. And by the way, I've
Speaker 2: spoken recently with some Democrats who just saying the same thing.
Speaker 2: I am, why did did Harris not pick Governor Shapiro
Speaker 2: of Pennsylvania who was a very a competent and accomplished
Speaker 2: governor in a really important state. This is Tim Waltz
Speaker 2: in South Carolina at a Democratic convention. They save the
Speaker 2: road to the White House. The Democratic Party runs through
Speaker 2: South Carolina. Just listen to this guy. I want to
Speaker 2: get your reaction in just one minute. Greg, Just listen
Speaker 2: to what he has to say this is Walts sixteen.
Speaker 6: Rubb I called Donald Trump a wanna be dictator.
Speaker 2: It's because he is. It's because he is.
Speaker 6: Oh, the governor's being mean, and the governor's speaking out
Speaker 6: on that. Well, maybe it's time for us to be
Speaker 6: a little meaner. Maybe it's time for us to be
Speaker 6: a little more fierce, because we have to ferociously push
Speaker 6: back on this. And again, I'll speak to my teacher
Speaker 6: colleagues in here. The thing that bothers a teacher more
Speaker 6: than anything is to watch a bully, to watch this bully.
Speaker 2: And to stop it.
Speaker 6: And when it's a child, you talk to him and
Speaker 6: you tell them why bullying is wrong. But when it's adult,
Speaker 6: like Donald Trump, you bully the out of him. Back,
Speaker 6: you push back, You make sure they know it's not there.
Speaker 2: Because at heart, at heart, this is a weak, cruel
Speaker 2: man that takes.
Speaker 6: It out and punches down on people.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: Oh, she take it.
Speaker 5: She'd take a different the Black River near Mallows Bliss.
Speaker 2: I gotta tell you if the Democrats are crazy enough
Speaker 2: to endure us to have him on the ticket again. Uh,
Speaker 2: he was, he was.
Speaker 5: I think he's mistake they made down Rick's Tim Kane
Speaker 5: was this was the I.
Speaker 2: Came from Virginia, but he wasn't. Maybe he didn't add
Speaker 2: much to the ticket nothing, that's a thing. Yeah, But
Speaker 2: I think Governor Shapiro would have been a much better choice.
Speaker 5: He definitely would. He would have probably carried Pennsylvania for him.
Speaker 2: About that, yeah, you know, And I think that he
Speaker 2: was much more sophistical. Waltz comes across like just to me,
Speaker 2: he's like a goober. I mean, he was, He's a phony.
Speaker 2: He's a guy that wanted to let people think he
Speaker 2: was a pheasant hunter and he couldn't load a shotgun
Speaker 2: and uh, and then that he really wasn't a football coach.
Speaker 5: I just you know, I mean the way I look
Speaker 5: at a lot of people who are with me. I
Speaker 5: don't like the politics, no more a religion. But Donald
Speaker 5: Trump now fairness, he will, he will, he will fair
Speaker 5: and square. The people in the United States voted for him,
Speaker 5: and they voted for him, and I think he's doing
Speaker 5: a good job.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 2: I think that poll suggests that maybe his uh, I
Speaker 2: think he's had a I think he had some shaking
Speaker 2: time in early April, but I think that these he
Speaker 2: settled it down. We'll see, we'll see, I'll criticize him
Speaker 2: when they do something wrong. Greg, you can count on that. Thanks,
Speaker 2: my friend, are gonna let you go, gotta go, all right, right,
Speaker 2: good night, good night, all right, let's gotta take a break.
Speaker 2: Uh again. If if you folks in Massachusetts and are
Speaker 2: any want to chat about this, that's great. I'm going
Speaker 2: to change topics at eleven o'clock. We're going to go
Speaker 2: international tonight at eleven. So you got about seven or
Speaker 2: eight minutes to check in. Check on in six one
Speaker 2: seven two five four ten thirty Bill in Pennsylvania, awaits
Speaker 2: uh six one seven two five four ten thirty or
Speaker 2: six one seven nine thirty. We'll come on right back
Speaker 2: on night Side.
Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: Boil. If a few more minutes left in this hour,
Speaker 2: lines are kind of quiet tonight, which surprises me, and
Speaker 2: so they or if everybody in Massachusetts has had their
Speaker 2: say on the political futures of Healy and Markey, go
Speaker 2: look at that. Unh pole, folks, open up your eyes
Speaker 2: on that one.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 2: Maybe a year from now we'll say, hey, that was
Speaker 2: a harbinger of things to come. And I first heard
Speaker 2: about it all night so let me go to Bill
Speaker 2: in Pennsylvania. Hey, Bill, welcome back. COI buddy, how you doing.
Speaker 4: I'm doing. I'm doing good, Dan, Yeah, I uh, I
Speaker 4: listened to you all the time because a lot of
Speaker 4: a lot of real news. Okay, I can get from
Speaker 4: w b Z and I can't get from any of
Speaker 4: these other legacy medias. That's for sure. That poll, that
Speaker 4: poll is is uh we uh down here in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 4: I get a feeling that it's the same thing that
Speaker 4: that Trump has gone up maybe a point or two.
Speaker 4: I think there's there's my My theory is this, Dan,
Speaker 4: that across the board. Okay, people have got to look
Speaker 4: at the bull faith lies that we've been told that
Speaker 4: you know, I mean, it's just one after the next,
Speaker 4: you know, and the ones that the ones that really,
Speaker 4: uh I think have changed people's opinions was the border
Speaker 4: is closed. That's one of them. Okay. The other the
Speaker 4: other one is he's sharp as attack. That's another one.
Speaker 4: And I think that uh, you know, all along the
Speaker 4: way Trump said what he was gonna do, and now
Speaker 4: he's in there. Okay, I can say I got a
Speaker 4: buddy in Philly. I got a buddy in Pittsburgh. And
Speaker 4: both of them the same thing. One's one's uh, real Democrat,
Speaker 4: the other one's kind of uh he dropped out of
Speaker 4: Democrat party and he calls himself an independent.
Speaker 5: But you know what they like.
Speaker 4: They like law and order. And when they see uh,
Speaker 4: these uh real criminals being rounded up and kick the
Speaker 4: hell out of here, Okay, that goes down well with them,
Speaker 4: and it and and the women, okay, really like it.
Speaker 2: So I think that well, I think I think the
Speaker 2: point you make it is an interesting point, and and
Speaker 2: let me just just echo a little bit of it.
Speaker 2: I think that when the administration keeps their focus on
Speaker 2: MS thirteen, Trende de Agua, the Venezuelan gang and people
Speaker 2: who have been convicted or have been charged with, you know,
Speaker 2: sex trafficking child, you know, pedophilia, there's a lot of
Speaker 2: these crimes that are pretty bizarre, okay. And they saw
Speaker 2: the crimes last fall when the NFL football players were
Speaker 2: playing and their homes were being broken into and they
Speaker 2: were arrest made in those cases. I mean, there are
Speaker 2: a lot of people who were victimized by crime, never
Speaker 2: mind the people who have lost their lives. And I
Speaker 2: think that and I think that the Trump administration to
Speaker 2: be critical sometimes they it's like, let the aten U
Speaker 2: could deal with the aten year old kid. This kid's
Speaker 2: an eighteen year old kid going to Milford High School.
Speaker 2: There's nothing in his background that suggests that he's a
Speaker 2: gangbanger or anything like that. The toughs University student. I'm
Speaker 2: sure you saw the video many times of the woman
Speaker 2: who was arrested. She wrote a stupid editorial in a
Speaker 2: stupid college newspaper and I read it, and believe me,
Speaker 2: there's nobody who's more pro Israel in the media in
Speaker 2: Boston than I'd like to think I am. And tomorrow night.
Speaker 2: I wanted to get to it tonight, but I wanted
Speaker 2: to let that story percolate. What happened out in Bola,
Speaker 2: Colorado yesterday is appalling, is absolutely appalling, and we'll get
Speaker 2: to that. And when you combine out what happened to
Speaker 2: the two members of the Israeli embassy down in Washington
Speaker 2: last week, we shot to death. I mean, this stuff
Speaker 2: is just happening with too much frequency, and we as
Speaker 2: a nation need to stand up to it, you know,
Speaker 2: we really do.
Speaker 4: And yeah, absolutely, And the other thing Dan that I
Speaker 4: think is really kind of percolating underneath is this Jake
Speaker 4: Tapper book. Now I'm not a big Jake Tapper fan,
Speaker 4: all right, but him and the guy from Axios that
Speaker 4: wrote this book. If you notice that hardly, you know,
Speaker 4: it's only getting publicized, and I mean it's only getting
Speaker 4: airtime certain places. But okay, when we find out that.
Speaker 4: And the other thing was what really you know, when
Speaker 4: he kept saying, well, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna
Speaker 4: pardon my son Hunter, I'm not gonna do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think he remembered saying what he said.
Speaker 2: But but beyond that, by the way, Uh, I'd love
Speaker 2: to get Tapper or his co author on and talk
Speaker 2: about it. Uh. You know, they all they have to
Speaker 2: do is give us a call and will and we
Speaker 2: will have them all.
Speaker 4: They should they they should, Yeah, no, they should. They
Speaker 4: should come on w b Z and and uh And
Speaker 4: I mean, you got a lot of people out here
Speaker 4: would would like to hear what they had to say, and.
Speaker 2: We reach a lot of people, and we do it
Speaker 2: in depth. You know, if they go on a lot
Speaker 2: of it's like a thirty second sound bite. No, well,
Speaker 2: I would we would go into some some depth on it.
Speaker 2: That's for sure. Hey, Bill, I appreciate you all.
Speaker 4: And I think yep, and I think all these lies, okay,
Speaker 4: are hurting a Democrat party.
Speaker 2: Dan Well, I don't think they're helping him, that's for sure.
Speaker 2: And we'll have to see how it works out here
Speaker 2: in Massachusetts. Ending up, is Shapiro up for reelection next
Speaker 2: year or no? Uh?
Speaker 4: Governor Well, I tell you, I know Fetterman's coming up
Speaker 4: for a re election next year, I believe.
Speaker 2: But the way spoke today in Boston, I think Fetterman
Speaker 2: has uh is more impressive than I initially thought. To
Speaker 2: be honest with you, he was up here.
Speaker 4: He was really hurting, for certain when he first came
Speaker 4: on the scene. But I wouldn't be a bit surprised
Speaker 4: if if McCormick doesn't convince him to do switch sides.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't think that's going to happen. But McCormick
Speaker 2: and Fetterman spoke today at the Kennedy Institute here in Boston. Hey,
Speaker 2: I got a run, Bill, Thank you much. We'll talk
Speaker 2: to have a good one. Take it easy, Oh we
Speaker 2: come back. I want to talk about Ukraine and an
Speaker 2: amazing attack that they were able to execute on Russia,
Speaker 2: and I hope you want to talk about that. We'll
Speaker 2: be back right after the eleven o'clock News