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Speaker 3: Welcome in.

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Speaker 2: Kevin Reynolds of the Salt Lake Tribune. Kevin, how the

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heck are you?

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Speaker 3: Man? Thanks for joining us?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 3: How are you doing? Fantastic man?

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Speaker 2: Hopefully you had a wonderful weekend and got a little

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R and R N. I know it's probably busy for

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you putting out pumping out content. It's twenty four seven,

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three sixty five. For all the rioters out there is

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sports never sleeps. What have you produced for us at

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the Solid Tribune recently?

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Speaker 3: Brother?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? BYUI is just I think we've been writing a

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lot about the transfer portal cycle and what it kind

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of means and what it signals. The BYU retained pretty

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much everybody that was significant to this team from twenty

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twenty five and then goes and ads, you know, arguably

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the best linebacker in the transfer portal cycle. What that

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means and what that says for Kilani's staff and the

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resources that they have, but also on this chase that

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the Yu's on to close the gap with Texas Tech,

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who also made you know, a lot of strides in

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the transfer portal, and then obviously uh looking at at

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at home and then lose to Texas Tech. So it's

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Speaker 2: How How crazy is it, uh that that b yu's

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retained pretty much all of their key contributors now, Shape,

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Brian Strather, Max Alford both are were key contributors to

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b YU, but they also are both coming off of

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ACL reconstructions like knee injuries or surgery. They're both in

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the portal. They're uh, they they may both end up

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at Michigan. I don't know if Shape Riot Strauther has

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committed yet, but we do know that Max Alfred is

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heading to Michigan. Tadan Beasley I think ended up at

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us F and others have ended up at like Utah State,

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et cetera. Special Teams contributors, Marcus McKenzie, uh, et cetera.

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But what does it say about this Cougar football team,

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Cougar football program, that they haven't really lost anybody of import.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, it makes me think of the story back

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from twenty to twenty two. That summer, the summer before

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had Jackson Bowers, Walker Lions, Hunter Clegg and a couple

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of other four star guys on campus for pretty much

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their their marquee recruiting weekend of that cycle. And back then,

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were four star guys out of that weekend and not

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Walker Lions who ends up at USC, not Hunter Clegg,

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who at the time committed to Utah, it was a

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cause for celebration. I thought this for the staff of

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saying like, oh, you know, the fact that you can

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recruits shows that how much it's grown. And fast forward

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Speaker 4: And I think it's for two reasons. One, there's a

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track record. Now Kilani doesn't have to really sell people

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the Power four and what you're chasing in the College

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of All playoffs. And then the other part, which I

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for national title, like they definitely lost the key playmakers.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, b why you didn't BOU football didn't go out

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and get Kellen Kellen Moore or you know, to to

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to to lead their their football team, right, that would

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unique kind of pitch that b YU basketball has on

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different they make. I think you can you can be

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players coming in when guys are injured? Like do you

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Speaker 2: Kevin Reynolds here on ESPN the fan representing the Soally

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Speaker 3: Brought to you by orthropros of Utah orthropro of.

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Speaker 2: Utah dot Com. College Football Championship game is tonight, Indiana

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versus Miami. Both of these teams, you could say, hey,

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they relied on the transfer portal, they relied on going

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out and acquiring talent via the portal, but Miami was

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Speaker 3: I feel like this is a bit of culture versus.

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some good football players via the portal, but Miami definitely

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the Athletic, you know, it just felt like to me,

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portal list. It's not going to be all you know,

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Carson Becks or whoever. It is the biggest name in

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my takeaway is I don't know how much of it

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is culture. I don't know how much of it I

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don't I don't know if Indiana you can just say, oh,

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they didn't have any resources. I think they did, but

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I think using the resource as well, and maybe not

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having the biggest war chest, but at the same time,

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going after guys that you that you are very certain

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what they can do and how they fit into in

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a particular system, which it seems like Indiana is very

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good at.

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Speaker 2: Indiana's a unique team. Who do you think Winsor's game?

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checked through was about eight and a half. I don't

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know if the spreads changed at all. But do you

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think that Indiana comes away victorious versus Miami the Hurricanes tonight?

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Speaker 5: I do?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think Indiana's destroy every single team that

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they've gone up against. I thought Oregon was going to

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be much harder of a challenge beating a team twice

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particular team as good as Oregon. You know, how many

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they win, you know, they the game is over by

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halftime or maybe even the first quarter. So I think

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Indiana comes out with this. And I have to say,

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like just from a football, you know, college football perspective

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and watching college football, even if I don't know the

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ins and outs of Indiana's program, to me, it looks

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like it's one of the most well coached teams. I

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think we've we've seen it a long time. You know,

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they just don't make mistakes, and I think Miami makes

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a lot of them. And so we'll see, we'll see tonight.

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But I just don't think Miami can get away with

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some of the mistakes they've made and have been making.

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a long time ago, but look at the mistakes that

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cost them the SMU game, in the Louisville game. And

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we've seen what Indiana does when teams make even just

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with little the slightest errors, and those become you know,

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twenty point leads very clickly for Indiana.

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Speaker 2: We're seeing some of the preseason way too early, preseason

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polls drop on three just put out theirs. They put

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Bleay at number thirteen heading into twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 3: Do you think that's too high, too low, or just

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about right?

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Speaker 4: You know, I think that's about right. Like I don't

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think I put them in the top twelve yet, you know,

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I don't think they're a lock playoff team, just because

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also I don't know how many teams the Big twelve

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gets in, and I don't think BYU is at least

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on PAP for the Big the best team in the

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Big twelve right now, I'd still say that's probably Texas Tech,

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particularly with how well they've done in the transfer portal

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this cycle and adding to what they already had. So

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and they're going to upgrade the quarterback position, which was

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arguably probably their weakest link this year I thought was

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the quarterback spot, and definitely kind of exposed that I

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thought in the playoffs too, so soortly we'll be an

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upgrade there and so because of that, I think thirteen

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is about right, just kind of on the outside looking in.

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I don't think you're going to have too many questions

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out l J. Martin or you know, a lot of

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the other questions that we had last year at the

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quarterback spot. There Bachmeyer kungback. But what does this defense

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look like under Kelly Papanga versus J Hill? Is it similar?

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Does Kelly Popinga get you know, as much pressure on

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the quarterback as J Hill got this last year finally

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kind of breaking through the stacks? What does that look like?

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Because I thought Jay Hill, I thought he did a

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lot of things well. I thought he was a very

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good play caller. And I'll I'll be interested to see

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what Kelly pa does this year.

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Speaker 2: Kevin Reynolds Sally Tribune here on your Utah ESPN Radio

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network for a Cougar Beat, brought to you by Orthroproso

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Utah arthroposovuta dot com. If you look at the acquisitions

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that BWAU football has picked up via the portal, there's

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only nine of them.

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Speaker 3: They're like one of.

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Speaker 2: Like five teams with less than ten. And many of

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these teams are, you know, high level programs, Georgia, I

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think US Seas in that mix, Notre Dame. Very few

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teams have I have stayed under that ten ten player

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roster for the transfer portal. Two of them, though, are

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tight ends. We've seen three offensive lineman. You've seen one

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or two strategic linebacker additions. When you look at the

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nine players that b YU has acquired via the portal,

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what stands out to you with their strategy.

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Speaker 4: I think it's what you said. I mean, this was

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a clearly the top priority. Coming off of the eleven

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win year or twelve years or twelve a year and

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winning twenty three games in the last two years, the

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top priority was definitely a retention and keeping the guys

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who won all those games in the building and obviously

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keeping Bear Bachmeyer in the building to grow and develop into.

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You know, we'll see what he can become. But you know,

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the thing that stands out to me though, is Walker

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Lion because I think you needed to find a replacement

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for Carson Ryan and Carson Ryan I don't think. I

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don't know if he was the best player on Blay's offense.

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I think that was probably LJ and then probably Bear.

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But at the same time, I don't know who's more

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important than Carson Ryan because we've seen this offense when

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they have a pass catching tight end and what that

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kind of does, and how much Bear seems to really

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rely on Carson Ryan. I think He's probably made the

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argument that Carson Ryan was bear Bachmeyer's favorite target this

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year and when things got tough, he went to him.

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the first three years BYU, since Isaac RETX, have they

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really had this reliable tight end pass catching option and

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this safety valve. I don't think they had that for

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Jake rest Left. I don't think they had that all

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the time for Keyton Slowvis or the end of Jaron

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Hall after Isaac Gretch got hurt. I mean, look at

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twenty twenty three or twenty twenty four where they're putting,

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you know, moving Keanu Hill to tight end and kind

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of trying to mix a match, and they really just

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didn't have a pass catching option. So I think Walker

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lines having him kind of in theory Sun kind of

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seamlessly as a as a pass catching guy who can

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take that take on that role, I think does a

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lot to open up the offense. And then the other

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part I still think, well, we don't necessarily have an

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answer on but I do think you're probably going to

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need a wide receiver to emerge who's a deep threat

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or at least a playmaker. I think they really missed

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that this year with that Phila Marian and Darius Laser.

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little bit. Parker Kingston's good, but he's not. That's not

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necessarily his strengthness or at least what Darius and Kwan did.

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because I thought that was the thing missing in this

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offense a little bit. And we'll see.

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Speaker 2: With all of the dominoes that have fallen here in

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the state of Utah, Sing Kyle Uh kind of ushered out,

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and you know in in the head coach and wedding,

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Morgan Scalley taken over, Jay Hill and and general to

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be Yu. That's part of the domino effect. You know

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who's who's been more impacted by these these changes? Would

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you say Utah or BYU?

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Speaker 4: Thus far, I think it's Utah. I definitely think it's U.

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Speaker 5: Tih.

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Speaker 4: I mean, they lose essentially their entire offensive staff and

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they have to bring in a new offensive coordinator and

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hire a new defensive coordinator because Scaley gets elevated, and

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you know, I think, don't get me wrong, I think

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j Hill leaving BYU is a huge question mark and

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something that definitely needs to be answered because he just

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did so much. I mean, obviously the associate head coach,

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but he was a very good recruiter. He was instrumental

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in a lot of the recruiting momentum. I thought of

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getting guys like you know, stars in this defense, Solidus

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Otsula and other players to flip from Utah to BYU,

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and I think that was very important before they were

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winning games, before they were truly winning in the Big twelve,

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to turn the tide in recruiting, or at least have

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BYU punching in the same weight classes U, which they

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they weren't for so long in that decade of independence.

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I think Jay and the whole staff, but definitely Jay

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deserves a lot of credit, and the way those guys

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talk about it definitely deserves credit. So I'm not trying

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to downplay j Hill leaving. I think it's a big, big,

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big deal. But at the same time, when you look

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at the totality of it, I think you have to

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say Utah was was the more effected team. And not

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only that, Utah lost players, not just coaches, They lost

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players to Michigan Smithsoden, jj B Tannon. You can go

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down the list of guys who were either key playmakers

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or you know, guys who had a lot of potential

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are John to La. You can kind of go through

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the list and b why you really didn't other than

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Max Alford. So right now, I'd say Utah is the

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more effective group.

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Speaker 2: What let me ask you this. We were debating this

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on Friday. We were discussing Mark Harlan, some of his actions,

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some of the h less popular actions, maybe that he's

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he's engaged in. For Utah fans, you know, how are

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they feeling about Mark Harlan as their ad You're seeing

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kind of the repercussions.

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Speaker 3: Are they bought in? Are they sold on Mark Harland?

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Speaker 2: I know you're not covering them on the daily on

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the bead, et cetera, But you know you're hearing things,

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You're seeing things. Are they bought into the head coach

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in waiting? Are they bought into, you know, Mark Harland

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being their fearless leader for the years to come.

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Speaker 4: You know, I can't speak for Utah fans. I don't

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know exactly what the feeling is, but just my overall

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take on the whole situation, I'd say, is that Morgan

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Scalley I think is a very very smart coach. I

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think he's been proven to be a very good defensive coordinator,

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but he has not been a head coach yet, so

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there is already that question mark. And then the other

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part is how often do coach in waiting really work?

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And I'm not saying Morgan Scalley won't be a good coach.

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I think he probably will be a good coach. But

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at the same time, like the situation he is walking

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into is a lot harder because of kind of the

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structure around it, and now Kyle's gone and he's taking

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coordinators is a much more difficult situation than what was

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supposed to be the case for Morgan Scalley. Like, I

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don't think he thought whenever he took over that he

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was going to have to overhaul an offense and make sure,

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you know, Kevin mcgiven is operating the same as Jason Deck.

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And I don't think he anticipated losing as many, you know,

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key contributors as he did to Michigan, And I think

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part of it was because part of the reason why

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it happened, there's a I don't think anyone could have

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foreseen what has happened to Michigan and that the job

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would be open and that Kyle would get the job.

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He wasn't the first choice, he wasn't the second choice.

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So a lot had to happen. I don't know if

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anybody could have foreseen that, but it is a very

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difficult situation that I think you put a coach in

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waiting into. I think it just makes it difficult, and

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it did get weird, and I think we were talking

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to some of you tough fans last week at the

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bau Utah game for this, and I think there are

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definitely mixed feelings, and you can talk about how the

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way those have come across, like should you be attacking

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Kyle Whittingham's family. No, obviously not. But at the same time,

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I do think there's mixed feelings on the direction of

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the program right now, and I do think there needs

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to be at least some calming stability, and maybe that

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is Morgan, But it is a very difficult job, a

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way more difficult situation than anybody could have anticipated a

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first time head coach walking into.

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Speaker 2: You don't have to apply on this if you don't

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want to. But what's Mark Carlin's lowest moment is it

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to give me a break tweet and subsequent role in

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his event the eventual disintegration of the PAC twelve. How

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about these they stole it from us going to the

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press conference post game, but.

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Speaker 3: The whole war.

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Speaker 2: You can combine walking on to the field and getting

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penalized in that moment, purportedly pushing out Kyle Whittingham for

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the head coach in waiting or number five calling out

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former Sinnes and commits on Twitter. Uh, you know, in

478
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a in a in a in a bit of a

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stupor that didn't really make any sense on Twitter before

480
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deleting it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know, I have an opinion on that,

482
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but it it Uh.

483
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Speaker 2: If you erase tweets though, like you know, you know

484
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where what is it there? There probably had to be

485
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some criticism from the admin saying, hey, you should probably

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remove that, or maybe his agent did.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. I was very, very surprised by

489
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that tweet. I'll say I was equally surprised about the

490
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press conference after the buy Utah game, But yeah, I was.

491
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I guess I'll just go with I was I've never

492
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seen an ad do that. I've never seen that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, are we are we getting desensitized to

494
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some of the actions of Mark Harlin because we've never

495
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seen him before. We are because or because from now

496
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we're starting to see these never seen before, you know

497
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what I mean?

498
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Speaker 3: Are we desensitized to it?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? So I really don't know, but it has been

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since I've been here. It's been quite a few moments

501
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where I was like, Wow, did not see that coming,

502
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Kevin Renolds.

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Speaker 2: Best way to support you what you do, how you

504
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do it, and anything you want to tease us with

505
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what content you're going to be putting out there at

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the at the trib.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean we've got some more bye stuff coming

509
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up for sure, But yeah, that's way the support is.

510
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Go to sl trip dot com and we have a

511
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bunch of stories on all the stuff we're talking about

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by U And obviously there's been a good number of

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reporting from a lot of people at our newspaper from

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on Kyle Whittingham, Morgan Scully and what comes next for

515
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that program too.

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Speaker 2: So Kevin Reynolds, Ladies, jem I always love talk ball

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for hopping off for a cougar be keV.

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Brandon Huffman, National recruiting editor for two four to seven Sports.

558
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Speaker 3: Brandon, how the heck are you?

559
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Speaker 5: Man?

560
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Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us?

561
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Speaker 5: Oh, you know, I was doing better like forty eight

562
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,920
hours ago and I was still in Hawaii. But I'm managing.

563
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You know. I'm in Arizona now, so it's actually warmer

564
00:27:04,839 --> 00:27:06,920
here than it is in Hawaii, So I can't be

565
00:27:07,079 --> 00:27:09,599
too bad. Right. We have the National Chemishibon.

566
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Speaker 3: Valley of the Sun. That's my home state. Baby. I

567
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,279
love a z but Hawaii that's our vacation spot. How

568
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was Hawaii? How was the Paulnesian Bowl? Brother?

569
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Speaker 5: It was awesome? You know, it was one of the

570
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better games, and largely because they made a real emphasis

571
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on inviting underclassroom. So there was over thirty twenty twenty

572
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seven prospects in the game, both the MVPs on offense

573
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and defense for twenty twenty seven. But you also got

574
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to still see a good chug of the twenty twenty six.

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I think there are sixty plus twenty twenty six is

576
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in the game. A lot of YU players in that

577
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game as well, So it was a nice combination of

578
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graduating seniors, guys that have actually already enrolled in school

579
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and been there for a week and then came to Hawaii,

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and then guys that we're going to spend in the

581
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next year really focusing on.

582
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's always fun to see the stars, right

583
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:55,079
the rising stars that are coming out of the prep world.

584
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And obviously we have the college football Championship on tonight

585
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where you lean and right now, Miami or Indiana And

586
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why I'm.

587
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Speaker 3: Telling you what.

588
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Speaker 5: I was at the Rose Bowl when I watched Indiana

589
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against Alabama, and I was at the Fiesta Bowl, and

590
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I saw Miami and illness, and that Indiana team is

591
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not losing to any one. And I think it's going

592
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to be thirty one to fourteen, which means Miami, congratulations

593
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on the national championship. Because Lee picking Indiana almost automatically

594
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needs it's going to be opposite day. But I'll tell

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you that Indiana team I saw against Alabama and then

596
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watching him against Oregon down in whatever that was via

597
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the peach Ble, I mean, they just look like they're

598
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on a complete different level than everybody else in college

599
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football this season.

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Speaker 2: Well, like I was looking at the recruiting rankings of

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these two teams and like their team cars, I knew

602
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it was coming, you know what I mean, you're looking

603
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at it like, look, I think the team composite talent

604
00:28:46,519 --> 00:28:49,400
score of Indiana was like seventy second. They went out

605
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and got a pretty good transfer portal class this past offseason.

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Speaker 3: I want to say it was I want.

607
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Speaker 2: To say it was like top twenty five, but Miami

608
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went top five. I mean it looks like they were

609
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one of the heavy spenders in the tres A portaled

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this last go around. From a talent level standpoint, what

611
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do you see here?

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Speaker 5: Well, I'll tell you you know one thing that's not

613
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being mentioned nearly enough. And everybody keeps talking about the

614
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composite rankings and how you know how Indiana has such

615
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a good team despite their ranking. Well, you know, they

616
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are very veteran, They're very experienced. They've got guys that

617
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are fifth, sixth and seventh year guys. They've got a

618
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quarterback who has been around, who was talented, who you know,

619
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his story was much travel But you can't knock experience too.

620
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That's one thing in this game, but we also have

621
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to you know, ranted the talent fit and it worked

622
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out exactly how first Segnetti planned, but it also worked

623
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to Mario Cristoball's plan. You know, they had a couple

624
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of games during the season they probably shouldn't have lost,

625
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games that they should have won where they had a

626
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bit more talented.

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Speaker 3: Roster, but they lost.

628
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Speaker 5: But Mario Cristobal has his team in a national championship

629
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game because he made it justice. They did what they

630
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needed to do down the stretch, and so I think

631
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this is one of those where, yeah, the rosters made

632
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them very different from a ranking standpoint, but coaching, you know,

633
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Mario Christball has never had a problem with you emulating talent.

634
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His knocket always been can he have those in game?

635
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You know, questions get answered, Whereas Kurt Signetti, nobody ever

636
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knew what he could do at a high level. And

637
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I think the coaching is so overlooked with what Indiana

638
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has done. And while they're they're roster and they not

639
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be full of four and five stars. It's very veteran,

640
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it's very experienced. But more importantly, she gets those guys

641
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to play together schematically, and that's why They've been able

642
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to just blow out everybody pretty much the entire season.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Look, both of these teams are fantastic. Both of them

645
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are very talented, and both of them are are well coached,

646
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and they have good cultures. That's what I would say

647
00:30:36,559 --> 00:30:38,680
about each one of these, uh these teams in each

648
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one of these coaches. So I'm excited to see what

649
00:30:41,799 --> 00:30:44,119
happens in this game. And there's actually there's a bit

650
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of a rooting interest for some BYU fans. Some want

651
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to see Kila marrin their former Cougar ball out and

652
00:30:50,559 --> 00:30:52,440
and then others are like, they just love the Kirk

653
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,599
Signetti story in the Indiana Hoosier stores. They have a

654
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bit BYU fans have a bit, you know, they have

655
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a bit of a chip on their shoulders the underdogs.

656
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Speaker 3: So they're rooting on the.

657
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Speaker 5: Under But let me say one thing on this, and

658
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I think this is actually makes a lot of sense.

659
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This is an outlier, you know, in a sense that

660
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remember it was fifteen years we speaking of Indiana the game,

661
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the team that plays their games in the arena where

662
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,680
hoodis was filmed. Butler maybe it to the National Championship

663
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,440
Game and almost knocked off Duke, and you know you're

664
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gonna have cases like that where the rosters made them different.

665
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But in this era where you're having the portal so

666
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readily available and for a quick fix process, you know,

667
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,839
Chris Signetti has just ruined the life of every college

668
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,359
coach who is being hired at a school that maybe

669
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didn't have the season at the school that they just

670
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got hired at that they won. And Indiana was a

671
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,559
losing his power for program of all time, and what

672
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,400
he's done is magical. But now every school is going

673
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to expect their new coach to utilize the portal and

674
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have the success that Chris Signetti has done. I think

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this guy's one of one. I think this Indiana team

676
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is one of one. And I don't know that this

677
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is going to be the rule rather the exception of

678
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the rule.

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Speaker 1: Even moving forward, What makes.

680
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Speaker 2: Jerk Signetti's so good at maybe coaching and even evaluating

681
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an acquiring talent from high school and from the portal

682
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to put himself in this position, Well.

683
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Speaker 5: Again, you go back to experience. I mean, the guy's

684
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in his mid sixties. He's probably been around football for

685
00:32:17,839 --> 00:32:19,599
so long that he's been able to pick up on

686
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tendencies and what he's looking for. He knows that. You know,

687
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you cannot discount the fact that this guy spent a

688
00:32:25,039 --> 00:32:28,680
year working under Nick Saban, was Nick Saban's recruiting coordinator

689
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,680
when he first was hired at Alabama, and you know,

690
00:32:30,799 --> 00:32:33,279
you just can't put a price tag on that. And

691
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I think that's something that you know, people don't understand,

692
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,240
is that him being around the game of football, him

693
00:32:39,319 --> 00:32:42,519
taking lower level jobs and working his way up. He

694
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,200
knew what he was looking for, he knew what he

695
00:32:44,319 --> 00:32:46,519
was doing, and he's had success in every stop along

696
00:32:46,599 --> 00:32:49,359
the way. And again, I think this guy's a unicorn.

697
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,599
I think he is a coaching unicorn and just happened

698
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,279
to be the guy that you know, people waited too

699
00:32:55,359 --> 00:32:57,880
long to hire and now Indiana gets to reap the rewards.

700
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But I don't even know if there's a special soft

701
00:33:00,039 --> 00:33:02,000
you can really describe. I just think this guy is

702
00:33:02,279 --> 00:33:03,880
that much of an outlier himself.

703
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Speaker 3: Love the breakdown that only you can give.

704
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Speaker 2: Brandon Huffman two four to seven Sports here on your

705
00:33:09,519 --> 00:33:13,119
Utah ESPN Radio network, Let's talk BYU. I thought they

706
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,839
did a pretty good job of acquiring talent in the

707
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twenty twenty six class. I think two four to seven

708
00:33:19,599 --> 00:33:22,079
put him at number twenty one overall. With seven four

709
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stars and fourteen high level three stars in the portal,

710
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they've I think, acquired nine guys via the portal. They

711
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sit at I want to say, around forty first in

712
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the rankings. They only have nine guys, which is a

713
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bit of an outlier. Not many teams have stayed under

714
00:33:39,599 --> 00:33:43,119
that ten player threshold. But how would you evaluate the

715
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,079
acquisitions via the portal thus far?

716
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,079
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think mean this is where you

717
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,200
go back to you to culture and you talk about

718
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,880
the culture Signetti has built. Well, I was talking built

719
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,119
ten years ago, and now it's about maintaining that culture.

720
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,599
And so you don't need a lot of guys. When

721
00:34:00,599 --> 00:34:02,640
you're signing a class of twenty and you've got returning

722
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,319
missionaries coming in, you get to be very picky on

723
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,839
what you're doing in the portal. And while they only

724
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:09,559
have nine guys coming out of the portal, these are

725
00:34:09,599 --> 00:34:11,519
guys that I think are going to be, you know,

726
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:15,159
outstanding additions. I love what I've seen, you know, from

727
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,559
kdul Lobby the last couple of years. The lady was

728
00:34:17,599 --> 00:34:20,559
the Tactful Freshman of the year's season in twenty twenty three,

729
00:34:20,599 --> 00:34:22,199
when they had a quarterback on that same team name

730
00:34:22,199 --> 00:34:24,840
for Nana Mendoza that you might be remembering. You know,

731
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,840
Zach Yamouch coming over from Stanford, who had been at

732
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,960
Bishop Gorman, a a program where he's used to winning

733
00:34:31,039 --> 00:34:32,960
pockey fin now who started I think five games this

734
00:34:33,039 --> 00:34:35,719
year at Washington, you know, was in the midst to

735
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:39,320
be a starter as a register freshman. You've got Roger Soliyapungo,

736
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,039
you know, who had a touchdown I believe in the

737
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,119
in the Fiesta, are in the Peach Bowl for Oregon,

738
00:34:44,199 --> 00:34:46,920
you know, and he comes home and you know, you

739
00:34:47,679 --> 00:34:49,960
throw in Walker Lions and what he was able to

740
00:34:50,039 --> 00:34:52,800
do as a weapon at USC, and you know it's

741
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,280
hard at USC when you always have the amount of

742
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,159
receivers at a high level that us he has for

743
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:00,920
the tight ends to get the ball. And now he

744
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,320
goes there and you know, I think it's any you know,

745
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,760
BYU fans were freaking out a little bit about you know,

746
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,880
some of the stuff that came out of the under Armoured.

747
00:35:07,599 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 3: Game about Rider Lyons.

748
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,039
Speaker 5: You know, he realizes he's going on a mission and

749
00:35:11,119 --> 00:35:13,079
so that's not going to stop schools from recruiting him.

750
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,719
I think it certainly does help that that Walker is

751
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,519
going to be there for a couple of years. You know,

752
00:35:17,639 --> 00:35:19,679
even if they may not ever really cross paths for

753
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,519
more than a year, that doesn't hurt to have him

754
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,840
be a part of that culture. So Walker lyons talent

755
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:27,559
on the field. But then it also kind of ties

756
00:35:27,639 --> 00:35:29,280
us loose ends. And then Tyler Caster is a kid

757
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:30,880
that you know, believe it or not. I saw him

758
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,440
in high school when he was playing at Williams Sfield

759
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,079
High School. Went up to one of the better high

760
00:35:35,119 --> 00:35:37,280
school matches I saw. Benjamin Morrison ended up being a

761
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,719
second round draft pick. We're talking best on best in

762
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:41,719
that game, and Kyler Caster got the better of him,

763
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,519
just didn't really stay healthy. He enrolled early at Oregon,

764
00:35:45,559 --> 00:35:48,280
actually skips his senior year, got to Oregon, and then

765
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,840
Oregon did a really good job of recruiting receivers out

766
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:52,280
of the portal, and then they did a really good

767
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,519
job of recruiting young talent who was a little bit

768
00:35:54,559 --> 00:35:56,960
more dynamic. And so Kyler Caster is one of those

769
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,440
guys that just needs an opportunity to get on the field.

770
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:01,639
And you're gonna get to see you've got the NFL

771
00:36:01,679 --> 00:36:04,039
bloodlines there with his dad Kevin having played in the NFL.

772
00:36:04,159 --> 00:36:06,519
So you know, a couple of known names, but then

773
00:36:06,559 --> 00:36:09,480
a couple of guys that you know were really highly

774
00:36:09,559 --> 00:36:11,000
tile to come out of high school. They just need

775
00:36:11,039 --> 00:36:13,039
that opportunity in Kyler Casper being one of them.

776
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's uh, it was an interesting acquisition.

777
00:36:16,559 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 2: Like you know, Kirk Saghetti talks a lot about production,

778
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:23,239
Tyler Casper doesn't have much production at organ, but he's

779
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:24,320
got a lot of potential.

780
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:26,800
Speaker 3: Can he be a wide receiver one for BYU this

781
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:27,400
next season?

782
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 5: Absolutely? And again, you know this is one thing that

783
00:36:31,119 --> 00:36:33,239
I had this taught last week when I was in Hawaii.

784
00:36:33,599 --> 00:36:36,320
There's one thing to not have production when you're at

785
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,440
a four and eight program, if you're not able to

786
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,639
get on the field of a bad program. It's another

787
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,000
thing to not have production when you're at a school

788
00:36:43,079 --> 00:36:46,320
like Oregon where they have, you know, as good as

789
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,800
a recruiting department as any in the country. They're always

790
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,320
recruiting top five to top seven classes. Remember he was

791
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,639
a part of that first Dan Landing class where they

792
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:55,039
also were able to hit the port but then they

793
00:36:55,079 --> 00:36:57,320
went after guys like Edam Stewart. They went after guys

794
00:36:57,639 --> 00:37:01,039
that were experienced, very talented players who needed to change

795
00:37:01,079 --> 00:37:04,000
his scenery. So it wasn't like he wasn't playing because

796
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,440
of the talent. Issue was he wasn't playing because there

797
00:37:06,519 --> 00:37:08,519
was more talented older guys. And then they brought some

798
00:37:08,679 --> 00:37:10,440
younger guys that were five stars that I'm going to

799
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,719
re receiver in the country into Korean Moore, you know,

800
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:14,800
So it was never a challenge is show for him.

801
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:16,360
It was really just a traffic camd that he got

802
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:16,719
stuck in.

803
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,280
Speaker 3: Is the crowning jewel of this stragic portal class.

804
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,280
Speaker 6: K lav Oh, no question.

805
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,280
Speaker 5: I mean Kato Lulav is the kind of guy that

806
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:30,719
you know, he is an easy, early impact guy. He's

807
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:32,719
coming in. You know, he could have stayed at Cal,

808
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:34,360
he could have gone to the NFL. He had other

809
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,880
schools that were pursuing him. I know that UCLA was

810
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:38,960
trying really hard with him because Dick Soto, the former

811
00:37:39,199 --> 00:37:42,360
YU player himself, was his coach at Cal. With the

812
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,840
CODC in Berkeley, Utah was also making a big push.

813
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,119
But I mean kay Do Luav because it was kind

814
00:37:48,159 --> 00:37:50,519
of a later portal entry, he became one of the

815
00:37:50,559 --> 00:37:54,559
most attractive linebackers. You know, the reality is the linebacker

816
00:37:54,599 --> 00:37:56,760
position is kind of in the value position. It's not

817
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,920
going to move the needle, say like a left tackle,

818
00:38:00,039 --> 00:38:02,000
like an edge rusher, like a receiver, like a quarterback

819
00:38:02,159 --> 00:38:04,719
is in the portal. But you still need an elite

820
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:09,400
linebacker or an elite leadership at linebacker, and if you

821
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,639
can get the player to go along with it, then

822
00:38:11,679 --> 00:38:13,480
that's a kind of a double edition. And I think

823
00:38:13,559 --> 00:38:15,119
that he would have been the crown Rule for a

824
00:38:15,159 --> 00:38:17,760
lot of schools that were pursuing him, But for BYU,

825
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,280
they really didn't feel like they're missing many pieces. You

826
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,519
bring in his experiences, veteran leadership, playing in a conference

827
00:38:23,519 --> 00:38:25,639
that's got a team playing for the national championship tonight.

828
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:27,960
That is a huge pickup for BYU.

829
00:38:29,559 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that breakdown.

830
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:35,599
Speaker 2: Three offensive linemen that they got Zach Yamoucci, obviously Pocky

831
00:38:35,679 --> 00:38:39,159
Final and then Junior Sia. They also went heavy on

832
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,239
the tight ends with Walker Lions and Roger salia Paga.

833
00:38:42,599 --> 00:38:44,440
It looks like they want to go some twelve personnel

834
00:38:44,519 --> 00:38:45,280
this next season.

835
00:38:46,519 --> 00:38:49,199
Speaker 5: I know it's good because I think that the more

836
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,679
versatility you can get in your offense, the more it helps.

837
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:54,360
The more you can get the ball spread out to

838
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,239
your big receiver, your big tight ends.

839
00:38:56,559 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 1: That help.

840
00:38:57,039 --> 00:38:59,519
Speaker 5: And I mean in getting both Roger and Walker, who

841
00:38:59,559 --> 00:39:02,000
are both traditional you know, they're I'm sorry, they're not

842
00:39:02,079 --> 00:39:04,079
your traditional just we're only going to use them in

843
00:39:04,159 --> 00:39:06,840
blocking situations. We want to get those guys involved in

844
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,400
the passing game. That's huge. And I think that both

845
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,679
those guys have the sides, they have the range that

846
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:15,480
they are going to be absolute weapons for BYU's offense.

847
00:39:15,679 --> 00:39:18,039
And give Bear Backmeier, you know, some guys at the

848
00:39:18,079 --> 00:39:20,159
tight end position to get the ball to. You know,

849
00:39:20,679 --> 00:39:22,840
Walker played i think at every single game this year

850
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,800
for USC except maybe the Bowl game. Roger was coming

851
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,000
along strong at the end of the season. Just happened

852
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:31,320
to have you know, quite possibly the freakiest tight end

853
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,159
in college football. And Kenyan Sidique, who was the starter

854
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:35,840
there and he wasn't going to pass him up, you know,

855
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:37,920
being a year behind him in Kenya see probably gonna

856
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:39,719
be a first round er. So again, it's just a

857
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,320
matter of opportunity for both those guys. And I think

858
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,119
if you're Bear Blackmayer you gotta be looking your chops.

859
00:39:44,119 --> 00:39:46,000
You got guys protecting me up front, and you have

860
00:39:46,119 --> 00:39:50,280
two really good pass catching receivers at tight end that

861
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,079
you're going to be instituting into that offense.

862
00:39:52,519 --> 00:39:55,119
Speaker 2: Is there anything that BYU needs to acquire? Some people

863
00:39:55,159 --> 00:39:57,719
want an RB two, some people want like a wide

864
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:01,719
receiver one as well to maybe a great separation they

865
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:03,840
lost to Quilan Marrion last year would have been nice

866
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:04,840
to happen this year for instance.

867
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's no question. And I think you know, when

868
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:12,119
you look at what was available in the portal this year,

869
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,199
there weren't a lot of elite wide receivers in the

870
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:16,960
portal this year, and I think part of that is

871
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,039
because what we've seen in the past couple of years,

872
00:40:20,159 --> 00:40:22,280
especially with revenue sharing, is that schools are doing a

873
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,199
better job of locking up they're wide receiver ones. They're

874
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,960
realizing that, you know, a quarterback is the most important

875
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,119
position to yeat. A left tackle is the most important

876
00:40:30,119 --> 00:40:33,960
position after quarterback, ed drusher and receiver. You don't need

877
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,559
to overspend on receivers, but you've got to take care

878
00:40:36,599 --> 00:40:38,679
of those ones that you do have. That Jeremiah Smith,

879
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:42,280
the Malachai Toni types, and the reality is that you

880
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,639
didn't see a lot of schools wide receiver ones go

881
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,960
into the portal, so you know, if anything, yeah, they

882
00:40:48,119 --> 00:40:50,000
along with one hundred and thirty other power forward or

883
00:40:50,199 --> 00:40:53,400
I'm sorry, FBS schools wanted a wide receiver one, but

884
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,920
those just weren't as available out of the portal this

885
00:40:56,039 --> 00:40:58,239
year as maybe some of these other positions. So I

886
00:40:58,320 --> 00:40:59,800
think when they do, they go and get you know,

887
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,719
two really good tight end one and a half that

888
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:04,599
will help in that passing game as well.

889
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,679
Speaker 2: Brandon huff been two four to seven sports best way

890
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:09,400
to support you, what you do, how you do it

891
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:10,719
For all of our listeners.

892
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,119
Speaker 5: Twenty four seven Sports is the place to go. You

893
00:41:13,199 --> 00:41:15,320
can find me on Twitter at Brandon Huppin on on

894
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,800
Instagram Brandon Hufbon twenty four or two four seven the league,

895
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,000
the portal might v clothes. There's still some guys tying

896
00:41:21,079 --> 00:41:22,960
up for loose ends figuring out where they're going to go.

897
00:41:23,119 --> 00:41:25,840
But hey, we've got junior days, we've got camp season,

898
00:41:26,039 --> 00:41:29,480
we've got numerous I know TJ Woods got to the

899
00:41:29,519 --> 00:41:31,519
line coach for BYU was in Hawaii at the end

900
00:41:31,519 --> 00:41:33,960
of last week at an in home visit with Isaiah Bertola,

901
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:35,960
who's the number two player in the state of Hawaii.

902
00:41:36,199 --> 00:41:39,079
These coaches don't get any time to rest right now

903
00:41:39,199 --> 00:41:41,440
that they get the whole month of February. Also, coaches,

904
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:42,880
we have to work you around. You can work for

905
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,400
the rest of January, but be following all the action

906
00:41:45,519 --> 00:41:47,920
because there's twenty twenty seven and twenty eight info going

907
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:48,440
out right now.

908
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 2: Love the breakdown, Appreciate you, Behuff, Brandon Huff and ladies

909
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:52,199
in general.

910
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:55,119
Speaker 3: Thanks so much, Thanks so much. Bread There you go,

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dot Com. Big Cougar Road to Kiris, Tonga. Cairis had

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his first sack of the season for the New England Patriots.

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Nice work from New England Patriots defensive tackle the six

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foot two, three hundred and thirty five pounder, the former

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seventh round pick two hundred and fiftieth overall to the

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Chicago Bears. I bet you wish Kiris was on your

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squad still, don't you. Ronald the three man Weaver, he

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played in fifteen games for Chicago, totaling I believe around

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thirty four or sorry, twenty four tackles, had a fumble recovery,

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and like three stuffed runs. I think, nice work from him.

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But he's been with I believe four teams now in

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the National Football League since entering the league in twenty

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twenty one. He spent two years in Minnesota, playing in

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eleven and fourteen games, respectively, and then went to Arizona

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in twenty twenty four and then found.

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Speaker 3: Himself with the New England Patriots.

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Speaker 2: Thus far this season, he's tallied I believe, twenty four

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total tackles, nine solo, fifteen assisted.

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Speaker 3: He's got one sack on the season.

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Speaker 2: He's got two passes defended in three stuffs like what

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I saw from Caius Tonga. Ronald the three man Weaver.

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Do you miss him there in Shytown? Number ninety five?

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Speaker 7: Anybody that has a good production on along the defense,

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you know I'll miss I'll take anything. I just maybe

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we should put our defensive players at quarterback at times

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because you know, the interceptions look I mean, maybe we

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need just all pros from defensive line to linebacker. It's

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his secondary because we're just gonna have to hold the

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opponent's zero points in order to win games to advance. No,

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the Rams are a good team, but no, Kirius has

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had a great NFL stint. He was a phenomenal college

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football player. But yeah, we can take anybody you know

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to stop the run more. I'll do it because we're

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gonna need to keep the opposing offense has been to

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as least amount of points as possible because it seems

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like our offense and our quarterback likes to turn the

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football over three times.

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Speaker 6: So you know, we need more defensive stops.

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Speaker 3: Need more defenses.

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Speaker 2: And man, yeah, what did you make I mean, look,

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Caleb Williams, obviously I picked the man.

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Speaker 6: I did it. You picked the Rams. Look, don't listen

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to me. Do as I say, not as I do.

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Speaker 7: I even, you know, did a little bit of a

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you know, talking with some friends and said, look, I'm

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not taking my hometown team. You know, you should buy

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me some lunch, you know, and they're like, nah. The

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Bears were just like no, Kayla Williams won't He's gonna

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he turns the ball over. Trust me, and then on

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the first drive. Been watching the game, thirty four yard bomb.

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Love it, get into the red zone. Picks like I

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told you, guy, like I know my team, I know

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my quarterback, I know what happens at the end of

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the day.

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Speaker 6: But I picked the Rams. I picked Pooka.

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Speaker 7: I picked them at the beginning to go to the

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Super Bowl when there was no Andy Reid. I said,

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this is the time for Sean McVan the Rams to

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get in another one. So they head up to Seattle.

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But I'm all riding with the poop dads. I'm riding

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with the Pooka power. And he converted been three third

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downs in the fourth quarter. I was watching great and

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it has been no.

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Speaker 3: Doubt about it.

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Speaker 2: In the NFC Wild Card Playoffs game, Pooka came with

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the power over the Carolina Panthers as the LA Rams

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beat them thirty four to thirty one. He had ten

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receptions on eighteen targets one hundred eleven yards eleven point

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one yards per reception, one touchdown long of eighteen. He

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also had three carries and fourteen yards and a touchdown.

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Guy balled out and then in the NFC Divisional Playoffs

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game versus Chicago that went to ot.

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Speaker 3: He did more than just catch the football man he

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was blocking.

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Speaker 2: He's one of the elite blocking wide receivers in the

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National Football League. Just does it all for the Rams.

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There is a reason why McVeigh and his staff wanted Pooka.

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They got the best return on investment in that draft

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in my opinion, not too long ago. That was in

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the twenty and twenty three NFL draft. And he continues

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to ball out in five receptions on ten targets fifty

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six yard eleven point two yards per reception.

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Speaker 3: He also had two carries for six yards.

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Speaker 2: And so shout out to the Rams and Pooka Nakua's

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they survive and advanced in the NFL players.

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Speaker 7: I'll say it again. I said it on the airways

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two weeks ago when the playoffs started.

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Speaker 6: I'm saying it now. I said that the O P.

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Speaker 7: O T H or whatever it is Offensive Player of

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the Year award would come down to this weekend. Did

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I not say that this next upcoming weekend? Because I

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said it would be the Rams versus the Seahawks. So

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Pooka Nakua and Jackson Smith and Jigba, We're gonna find out.

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Speaker 6: I think it will be Pooka. But if the Rams

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win this game and Pooka.

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Speaker 7: Balls out, being that's three playoff games in a row

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of phenomenal tape, phenomenal stats, and at that point, I

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think he's gonna be the Offensive Player of the Year and.

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Speaker 6: That that'd be great.

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Speaker 7: That's great for BYU for recruiting Bend going back to college.

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Speaker 6: That's great for you know, Cougars and the Pros. This

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kid is legit.

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Speaker 7: I think he's the best wide receiver right now in

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the NFL, and if he wins Offensive Player of the Year,

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that solidifies it. Yet alone gets to the Super So

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I think all Cougar fans, being that are NFLS fans,

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will be watching the Rams and hoping that Pooga gets

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to the Super Bowl and brings home their ring.

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Speaker 3: Too, no doubt about it.

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Speaker 2: Go Pooka Gokiris, former Cougars in the Pros balling out.

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We'll be back. College basketball and Cougar Sports coming up next.

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Jonathan Tabinari, ESPN The Fan College Basketball Adele is breaking

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down the loss versus Texas Tech and what is in

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the University of Utah. In this restaure, what do they

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need to shore up? What do they need to get

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This is Cougar Sports on one of three nine ninety

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