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Speaker 2: Talks about pontificates about pop culture, Ron and Report with
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Speaker 3: Tapping a Runner Report.
Speaker 4: Mark go, I had really been looking forward to Thunderbolt,
Speaker 4: and I'm not going to jerk you around.
Speaker 5: It does not disappoint. Okay, now you can listen to
Speaker 5: something else. Are you still here? All right? Here's some
Speaker 5: trailer to masticate.
Speaker 1: On letting.
Speaker 6: Beings the hero. There is no higher collect Your sister
Speaker 6: understood something about that I should come back for you. No,
Speaker 6: that's it's the fairy tale. I was in high school
Speaker 6: when the Avengers came. Kind of strange that it's all
Speaker 6: over now, no one's coming to save to day. I
Speaker 6: think we are.
Speaker 5: We can be the ones that are coming.
Speaker 6: Look, you have the wrong people. We have all done
Speaker 6: bad things.
Speaker 5: Look up there where you are.
Speaker 6: The past doesn't go away, so you can either live
Speaker 6: with that forever or you can do something about it.
Speaker 5: I am avoid.
Speaker 6: You are in. You can't tell. We're on the emptiness.
Speaker 6: They can't do this. No one there is a hero.
Speaker 5: We all have things that we regret, but I have
Speaker 5: so many. When I look at her, I don't see
Speaker 5: your mistics. That's probably need be too.
Speaker 6: We can't start there and alone, no one can, and
Speaker 6: we can find a way together. All Right.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna cut that a little short because we're running
Speaker 4: short on time here. I am a sucker for the
Speaker 4: kind of dirty dozen stories that involve corralling some bad
Speaker 4: guys to go on a good guy mission. And that's
Speaker 4: essentially what happens here. Bad guys, anti heroes, self redeemed
Speaker 4: former bad guys. Here's your roster. You got Bucky Barnes,
Speaker 4: the Winter Soldier. He started as Captain America's pal. He
Speaker 4: became a hydro assassin, snapped out of it, and is
Speaker 4: now a freshman congressman. In the movie, as it starts
Speaker 4: at Sebastian stan Yolena Belova, a black widow, sister of
Speaker 4: the Scarlett Johansson Natasha, black widow who got killed a
Speaker 4: few movies back. That's Florence Pugh, her Russian father, the
Speaker 4: Red Guardian. That's David Harbor from Stranger Things. He's the
Speaker 4: buffoonish gung ho comic relief in the movie. Also, most
Speaker 4: things just sound funnier with a Russian or Eastern European accent.
Speaker 4: Try it, I promise is good potato. There's John Walker,
Speaker 4: the disgraced ex brief Captain America replacement played by Wyatt Russell.
Speaker 4: He's kind of an exasperated a hole with none of
Speaker 4: the nobility that Chris Evans is Captain America radiated, and
Speaker 4: he seems to know it. Ghost played by Hannah John Kayman.
Speaker 4: She was an ant man in The Wasp, kind of
Speaker 4: the least memorable of the villain heroes. Here, she can
Speaker 4: turn invisible and phase through stuff, but she levels up
Speaker 4: a bit and has some good dialogue and some action moments.
Speaker 4: There's also a dorky guy named Bob played by Lewis Pullman,
Speaker 4: the son of Bill Pullman. He was in a pretty
Speaker 4: watchable remake of Stephen King Salem's Lot recently, and Bob
Speaker 4: has some issues that are going to turn into a
Speaker 4: major problem for everyone. There's Julia Louis Dreyfus. She returns
Speaker 4: as Valentina Allegrid de Fontaine, the unscrupulous manipulator from other
Speaker 4: Marble stuff. She's running the CIA now and facing impeachment
Speaker 4: hearings while she does more super manipulating, in this case
Speaker 4: trying to get all the loser semi heroes to off
Speaker 4: each other at first, and cultivating another super being who's
Speaker 4: more of a badass than all of them put together,
Speaker 4: and who's also really unstable. You could spend some quality
Speaker 4: nerd time going down the list of who you would
Speaker 4: like to be on the team. I kind of wish
Speaker 4: they'd brought in Zemo. Maybe it was just the scene
Speaker 4: of him dancing, but I've been on teams Zimo since
Speaker 4: the Falcon and the Winter Soldier series, and just to
Speaker 4: be clear, Zemo dancing righteous dance off at the end
Speaker 4: of Guardians of the Galaxy cringe, awful, terrible. Marvel's been
Speaker 4: hit and miss, especially recently, but Thunderbolts is no thor
Speaker 4: Love and Thunder or shang Chi or Wakanda Forever. It's
Speaker 4: lots of fun and it nails this mix of comedy
Speaker 4: and action that Marvel does best. The dialogue of all
Speaker 4: these misfits you have to work together's funny. The action
Speaker 4: scenes are well done, especially at the start of the
Speaker 4: movie with Yolena just plowing through a bunch of bad guys.
Speaker 4: They give Winter Soldier a supremely cool entrance on a motorcycle.
Speaker 4: After things have gotten going. That'll just make you wish
Speaker 4: he had a whole movie of his own. Ghost not
Speaker 4: so much. The director is Jake Shreyer, who's maybe known
Speaker 4: for the Netflix mini series Beef to the extent he's
Speaker 4: known at all to normal civilians. This is a huge
Speaker 4: leveling up for him, and I think he's going to
Speaker 4: be around for a while. The movie starts off with
Speaker 4: what seemed to me like a really sloppy bit of plotting.
Speaker 4: These super losers are initially all sent separately to a
Speaker 4: facility to kill each other by Valentina, which of course
Speaker 4: they don't do. This is some sub James Bond foolishness.
Speaker 4: Let me tie you to this chair and leave you
Speaker 4: unsupervised in this room. Nope, let's set them all up
Speaker 4: to fight and assume none of them will talk at all,
Speaker 4: say a word. I think the climactic segment of the
Speaker 4: movie is going to be polarizing, and I can't go
Speaker 4: into much detail about that without spoiling it. It wraps
Speaker 4: up the theme at the beginning of having to do
Speaker 4: with Elena the black widow, finding life meaningless and full
Speaker 4: of painful memories of things she's done. But the movie
Speaker 4: takes this left turn from the kind of super action
Speaker 4: you might expect into some arguably cheesy territory. It's not
Speaker 4: enough to ruin the movie, but you might find yourself
Speaker 4: sitting there thinking, Hey, did they really just solve that
Speaker 4: by doing that?
Speaker 5: Come on?
Speaker 4: And I can't prove the filmmakers are big Star Trek
Speaker 4: five fans, but an element of Thunderbolts is heavily reminiscent
Speaker 4: of that, involving all the major characters revisiting traumatic events
Speaker 4: from their past that shaped them. You definitely want to
Speaker 4: sit through all the credits because there are two extra
Speaker 4: scenes you won't want to miss, mostly the one at
Speaker 4: the very end of all the credits, which sets up
Speaker 4: some other cool stuff I will not spoil. That's all
Speaker 4: I'm going to say about Thunderbolts. One more quick bit
Speaker 4: of a nerd business. You probably never got around to
Speaker 4: seeing Hellboy the Crooked Man because almost no one did.
Speaker 4: It was the fourth film in the series with the
Speaker 4: third actor playing hell Boy, barely released in theaters, made
Speaker 4: a lot of two million bucks on a twenty million
Speaker 4: dollar budget, essentially dumped straight to vod I don't know why,
Speaker 4: and it is by far the best of the four.
Speaker 4: I don't understand why nobody's been talking about it, except
Speaker 4: that maybe people avoided it because it seemed like a failure,
Speaker 4: and that created kind of a fail spiral of avoidance.
Speaker 4: It's darker, much closer to the comics by Mike Manola,
Speaker 4: stays in the folk horror monster territory of his stories,
Speaker 4: and he co wrote it from one of his comic
Speaker 4: book stories. I caught it on Hulu and I've read
Speaker 4: that it's doing well there. I will say, Hellboy the
Speaker 4: Crooked Man is slightly cheaper, looking kind of like a
Speaker 4: CW show, and doesn't have the directing flare of the
Speaker 4: first two movies by Guerramo del Toro, but don't let
Speaker 4: that put you off. It's still better than both of
Speaker 4: his And between those two movies, Thunderbolts and hell Boy
Speaker 4: the Crooked Man, that's a few solid hours of nerd
Speaker 4: time that you could have spent knowing the touch of
Speaker 4: a woman mo the touch of a week.
Speaker 3: Yes, I saw Thunderbolts last night. I don't have as
Speaker 3: a review, so I'm not going to step on yours.
Speaker 3: I just said I liked it. I didn't love it.
Speaker 3: I'll leave it at that.
Speaker 5: I liked it.
Speaker 3: But you know, I liked Captain America Brave New World
Speaker 3: more so.
Speaker 4: I think it's kind of a photo finish between the two.
Speaker 4: Neither a perfect You heard what my complaints were, But
Speaker 4: I had a great time watching it.
Speaker 5: I was happy I went.
Speaker 4: I was happy I saw in a theater with other
Speaker 4: humans who were also not having sex.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I think that the couple, the nerd couple.
Speaker 4: Next to me might have gone home and gotten it
Speaker 4: on immediately, though they were very let's just say, demonstrative
Speaker 4: in the theater.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why I don't like going to the theater anymore.
Speaker 3: This just too much going on.
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