WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:04.440 You are now entering the stone zone. Well, Homeland Security 2 00:00:04.480 --> 00:00:08.199 Secretary Mark Wayne Mallin has stepped in it, and the 3 00:00:08.279 --> 00:00:13.359 backlash was immediate. Speaking at the National Governors Association meeting 4 00:00:13.400 --> 00:00:17.120 in Oklahoma City, Malin gave an interview which he sounded 5 00:00:17.359 --> 00:00:21.640 more like a call for comprehensive immigration reform than a 6 00:00:21.679 --> 00:00:25.879 forceful defense of the administration's current immigration enforcement policies. 7 00:00:26.359 --> 00:00:27.879 He actually complained. 8 00:00:27.440 --> 00:00:30.559 That the nation had not seen actual immigration reform since 9 00:00:30.600 --> 00:00:34.640 nineteen fifty nine, blamed politics for the decades long stalemate, 10 00:00:34.920 --> 00:00:38.479 and argued for more permanent solutions to address labor shortages, 11 00:00:39.000 --> 00:00:44.000 including changes in unemployment visa programs. But more importantly, he 12 00:00:44.119 --> 00:00:47.840 drew a specific distinction between those who were in the 13 00:00:47.840 --> 00:00:52.280 country illegally but pursuing legal status and the hoses entered 14 00:00:52.280 --> 00:00:56.119 and remained in the country illegally. That language lacks the 15 00:00:56.280 --> 00:01:00.960 unmistakable emphasis on enforcement that voters expect. Well, they elected 16 00:01:01.000 --> 00:01:04.879 Donald Trump president and expected him to restore border security 17 00:01:05.280 --> 00:01:09.280 and carry out the mass deportations the president promised in 18 00:01:09.359 --> 00:01:13.599 his campaign. Now this is not an isolated misstep. First 19 00:01:13.599 --> 00:01:17.079 of all, Mullin is an interesting guy, and the way 20 00:01:17.079 --> 00:01:20.200 he got to the US Senate which is where he 21 00:01:20.400 --> 00:01:24.359 was when Donald Trump selected him to replace former Governor 22 00:01:24.439 --> 00:01:27.680 Christy Nome As he had of the Department Homeland Security 23 00:01:27.799 --> 00:01:32.079 was very interesting in a crowded field. In twenty twenty two, 24 00:01:32.159 --> 00:01:36.200 Mark Wayne Mullen took a thirty second radio and television 25 00:01:36.239 --> 00:01:39.280 ad in which Donald Trump had endorsed him for his 26 00:01:39.599 --> 00:01:43.760 House seat and put it on statewide, leaving the implication 27 00:01:43.879 --> 00:01:46.879 that Donald Trump had endorsed him for the US Senate. 28 00:01:47.599 --> 00:01:50.519 The President never called him on it, nor did anyone else, 29 00:01:50.560 --> 00:01:53.840 and Mullin was elected to the Senate. He's cultivated this 30 00:01:55.040 --> 00:01:58.719 reputation and image as a tough guy, but in truth, 31 00:01:58.760 --> 00:02:01.000 he's never served in the un US military or in 32 00:02:01.079 --> 00:02:06.359 law enforcement. He was briefly an MMA fighter. This is 33 00:02:06.439 --> 00:02:10.639 not Mullen's first misstep. One of the major networks reported 34 00:02:10.680 --> 00:02:13.639 only a week ago that he has managed to ruffle 35 00:02:13.639 --> 00:02:16.879 feathers at the White House and irk the administration multiple 36 00:02:16.919 --> 00:02:19.639 times in the four months that he's been at DHS 37 00:02:20.479 --> 00:02:24.879 reportedly ran into trouble after pausing ICE's vehicle stops policy 38 00:02:25.319 --> 00:02:29.639 after fatal shootings in Texas and Maine. President Trump quickly 39 00:02:29.680 --> 00:02:33.879 and publicly reversed that decision because Mullen never got approval 40 00:02:34.199 --> 00:02:37.000 through the White House chain of command. According to a 41 00:02:37.039 --> 00:02:39.800 White House official that I spoke to one of the 42 00:02:39.800 --> 00:02:43.199 networks quoted someone is saying every cabinet secretary knows they 43 00:02:43.240 --> 00:02:45.840 have to come to the White House for major policy decisions. 44 00:02:46.360 --> 00:02:50.759 The President sees and hears and reads everything. Mullen also 45 00:02:51.240 --> 00:02:55.080 misspoke during a CNN interview recently when discussing a Supreme 46 00:02:55.159 --> 00:03:00.319 Court ruling on protected status for immigrants from Hawaii, Haiti, 47 00:03:00.639 --> 00:03:03.560 and Siria, saying that hundreds of thousands could apply for 48 00:03:03.680 --> 00:03:08.080 legal status, which they could not. This, according to the report, 49 00:03:08.240 --> 00:03:12.039 was annoying to some in the White House. The DHS 50 00:03:12.120 --> 00:03:17.240 secretary also reportedly raised concerns with his nomination of Lance 51 00:03:17.400 --> 00:03:21.159 Schreyer to be the new ICE Director. The former incident 52 00:03:21.199 --> 00:03:24.360 commander from the Oklahoma Highway Patrol is a long time 53 00:03:24.599 --> 00:03:28.000 crony of Mullen, but many are concerned that he lacks 54 00:03:28.039 --> 00:03:32.520 the proper experience for the ICE roll. One person reportedly 55 00:03:32.560 --> 00:03:37.240 concerned about Schroyer's Trump borders are Tom Homan. Tom Holman 56 00:03:37.280 --> 00:03:41.280 and others are particularly thrilled with him. At administration. Source 57 00:03:41.319 --> 00:03:45.479 told one of the networks the White House moved quickly 58 00:03:45.599 --> 00:03:48.639 to tried to smooth things over, but to his credit, 59 00:03:48.719 --> 00:03:53.280 Mark Wayne Mullen was in full retreat within forty eight hours, 60 00:03:53.520 --> 00:03:58.199 posting on his social media platform x no amnesty for 61 00:03:58.280 --> 00:04:02.919 illegal aliens ever, meaning that Mark Wayne got with the program. 62 00:04:03.680 --> 00:04:06.159 But there are some who are already saying that Mark 63 00:04:06.159 --> 00:04:09.479 Wayne Mullen was too interested in sucking up with two 64 00:04:09.680 --> 00:04:15.080 of the Democrat governors who are considered contenders in the 65 00:04:15.120 --> 00:04:20.680 presidential ration. Twenty eight, Mullin highlighted what he said a 66 00:04:20.759 --> 00:04:24.920 really good relationships with Democrat governors, including Josh Shapiro of 67 00:04:24.959 --> 00:04:29.680 Pennsylvania and Wes Moore of West Virginia, who have both 68 00:04:29.759 --> 00:04:33.519 consistently opposed every policy of the Department of Homeland Security 69 00:04:33.519 --> 00:04:36.920 and ICE. He's also received praise from them for his 70 00:04:37.000 --> 00:04:40.439 recent remarks at the Governor's Conference, who portrayed his comments 71 00:04:40.480 --> 00:04:45.120 as a refreshing departure from the administration's tougher immigration policy. 72 00:04:45.839 --> 00:04:48.519 These are not allies in the effort to enforce pederal 73 00:04:48.560 --> 00:04:52.560 immigration law. They're elected officials whose records have repeatedly favored 74 00:04:52.600 --> 00:04:57.560 expanded legal pathways, reduced enforcement, and policies that make it 75 00:04:57.639 --> 00:05:01.120 more difficult for ICE to perform ITTs mission. The question 76 00:05:01.240 --> 00:05:04.920 is not whether the Secretary should maintain professional working relationships 77 00:05:04.959 --> 00:05:07.639 with governors or both states and all parties. Of course 78 00:05:07.639 --> 00:05:11.079 you should. The concern is why appear so overly eager 79 00:05:11.120 --> 00:05:14.839 to seek common political ground with officials who spent years 80 00:05:15.319 --> 00:05:19.360 resisting immigration enforcement and challenging the work of federal agents. 81 00:05:20.199 --> 00:05:22.439 The Department of Home and Security exists to secure the 82 00:05:22.519 --> 00:05:27.079 nation's borders, protect the homeland, and enforce immigration law. Immigration 83 00:05:27.120 --> 00:05:30.839 and customers enforcement exists to identify, detain, and remove those 84 00:05:31.079 --> 00:05:34.720 who have violated that law. Publicly embracing officials who oppose 85 00:05:34.800 --> 00:05:38.560 those objectives sends exactly the wrong message at precisely at 86 00:05:38.600 --> 00:05:42.240 the wrong time. American people didn't vote for another round 87 00:05:42.240 --> 00:05:47.079 of bipartisan immigration negotiations or carefully calibrated reformed proposals. They 88 00:05:47.160 --> 00:05:52.120 voted for enforcement to terrence, and the restoration of American sovereignty. 89 00:05:52.759 --> 00:05:56.800 After years of unprecedented illegal immigration in which during Joe 90 00:05:56.800 --> 00:06:01.279 Biden's presidency, they essentially opened our border, we had no policy. 91 00:06:01.839 --> 00:06:04.519 The American people expected a government under Donald Trump that 92 00:06:04.519 --> 00:06:09.879 would faithfully execute existing law before entertaining discussions about changing it. 93 00:06:10.639 --> 00:06:14.040 Every public statement from the nation's top homeland security officials 94 00:06:14.199 --> 00:06:17.920 should reinforce that mandate, not blur it. As I said 95 00:06:18.360 --> 00:06:21.920 in full retreat mullin later posts on social media, no 96 00:06:22.199 --> 00:06:26.040 ambasty for illegals. Ever, that statement was both welcome and necessary, 97 00:06:26.079 --> 00:06:30.120 but was also kind of a cya statement that the 98 00:06:30.160 --> 00:06:34.319 need for such rapid clarification illustrates exactly the problem you see. 99 00:06:34.360 --> 00:06:37.439 A secretary fully alied with the president's agenda should not 100 00:06:37.519 --> 00:06:40.720 have to issue public corrections to raisure supporters that the 101 00:06:40.759 --> 00:06:46.040 administrator remains committed to enforcement first Mark Way. Mullen occupys 102 00:06:46.079 --> 00:06:48.759 one of the most important national security positions in the 103 00:06:48.800 --> 00:06:52.199 federal government. Every word he speaks carries weight, both at 104 00:06:52.199 --> 00:06:55.439 home and abroad. When his rhetoric appears to soften the 105 00:06:55.439 --> 00:07:00.120 administration's immigration agenda while earning praise from left wing politicians 106 00:07:00.279 --> 00:07:04.399 who have consistently opposed the DHS and ICE policies, he 107 00:07:04.519 --> 00:07:09.000 actually raises questions about his priorities and his directions. Some 108 00:07:09.079 --> 00:07:12.720 have even floated the idea that Trump should replace Mullen 109 00:07:12.839 --> 00:07:17.959 with hard, hard charging bulldog Bill Pochi, who is the 110 00:07:18.079 --> 00:07:20.839 currently the head of the Federal Housing and Finance Administration, 111 00:07:21.480 --> 00:07:24.839 but who recently stepped down as the acting director of 112 00:07:25.000 --> 00:07:30.079 National Intelligence. I love this quote, picked up by the 113 00:07:30.199 --> 00:07:33.399 UK Daily Mail. One White House official set it takes 114 00:07:33.399 --> 00:07:36.160 a lot to unite the administration around a cohesive point 115 00:07:36.199 --> 00:07:39.319 of view. But you've got to give Mulling credit where 116 00:07:39.360 --> 00:07:44.120 credit is due. Everyone agrees he sucks donkey. But that 117 00:07:44.279 --> 00:07:49.360 was a colorful comment. Picked up by the UK Daily Mail. 118 00:07:50.519 --> 00:07:54.720 He is a politician and unclear whether he's really qualified 119 00:07:55.000 --> 00:07:59.480 for this job. The American people expect results, not mixed signals. 120 00:07:59.839 --> 00:08:03.439 They deserve the leadership that they voted for in the 121 00:08:03.519 --> 00:08:08.519 last presidential election. Meanwhile, Hunter Biden says he's broke America's 122 00:08:08.560 --> 00:08:12.759 favorite drug addol degenerate son of President Hunter of the President. 123 00:08:13.000 --> 00:08:15.839 Hunter Biden contingents claim that he and his family are 124 00:08:15.879 --> 00:08:19.000 flat broke. I'm not sure how that could be, considering 125 00:08:19.079 --> 00:08:22.639 his ellequative, politically connected life, in which the House Oversight 126 00:08:22.720 --> 00:08:26.519 Committee proved that the Biden family, his father, his brother, 127 00:08:26.680 --> 00:08:31.160 his uncle pardon me, his father's brother and his uncle 128 00:08:31.720 --> 00:08:37.759 took in millions of dollars from China, Russia, Ukraine and elsewhere. 129 00:08:38.519 --> 00:08:40.840 Could he really have spent the tens of million dollars 130 00:08:40.840 --> 00:08:44.960 that he reportedly gotten in the crooked Barisma deal? On 131 00:08:45.039 --> 00:08:48.279 crack cocaine alone. By the way, he never really sold 132 00:08:48.279 --> 00:08:51.960 his Barisma stock. He merely transferred. It doesn't seem plausible, 133 00:08:52.440 --> 00:08:56.279 but in a deposition involving the law firm Winston Taylor, 134 00:08:56.679 --> 00:09:00.200 that's the law firm of Abby Lowell Biden he had 135 00:09:00.200 --> 00:09:03.159 not pay the seventeen million dollars owed for representation in 136 00:09:03.200 --> 00:09:07.279 criminal cases, congressional investigations in civil litigations. 137 00:09:07.320 --> 00:09:08.600 Now know Abbey Lole. 138 00:09:09.480 --> 00:09:12.120 He was unsuccessful in his defense a former New York 139 00:09:12.360 --> 00:09:15.960 Senate Majority leader Joe Bruno, who was later cleared in 140 00:09:16.000 --> 00:09:20.600 a subsequent appeal trial. He was also unsuccessful in saving 141 00:09:20.720 --> 00:09:24.720 the career of New Jersey Senator Bob torres Sally. I 142 00:09:24.759 --> 00:09:27.720 have a feeling, however, that Hunter Biden is going to 143 00:09:27.759 --> 00:09:31.759 stiff Abbey Lowell. He testified that he owns nothing valuable 144 00:09:31.799 --> 00:09:35.919 beyond his paintings. They're real doozies. He says he has 145 00:09:35.960 --> 00:09:40.120 no stocks, no bonds, no savings, no car or no phone. 146 00:09:40.240 --> 00:09:43.120 He also insists that his entire family has no money, 147 00:09:43.639 --> 00:09:46.159 though the article that I read notes to Joe and 148 00:09:46.200 --> 00:09:49.279 Joe Biden see book deals. While the former president collects 149 00:09:49.320 --> 00:09:52.960 more than four hundred thousand dollars annually in government pensions. 150 00:09:53.240 --> 00:09:55.080 You also have to wonder what happened to the nearly 151 00:09:55.120 --> 00:09:58.480 one million dollars that the Chinese government fundled to Joe 152 00:09:58.480 --> 00:10:03.559 Biden through the University of Pennsylvania. Throughout his presidents his 153 00:10:03.639 --> 00:10:06.320 father's presidency, Hunter Biden reported he lived in mansions and 154 00:10:06.639 --> 00:10:11.559 luxury hotels, supported by wealthy Democrat donors and friends. They 155 00:10:11.600 --> 00:10:15.279 say he accumulated millions through alleged influence pedaling and questionable 156 00:10:15.279 --> 00:10:19.240 form of dealings, including threatening message to a Chinese businessman 157 00:10:19.320 --> 00:10:23.600 invoking his father's president's connections. His artwork attracted buyers while 158 00:10:23.639 --> 00:10:26.200 Joe was still in office, but those sales to appear 159 00:10:26.279 --> 00:10:29.480 to have dried up. Turns out Hunter was not an 160 00:10:29.559 --> 00:10:33.120 artistic savant, and those art payments were instead part of 161 00:10:33.120 --> 00:10:37.080 an obvious money laundering and influence pedaling schemes. I raised 162 00:10:37.080 --> 00:10:39.759 this only because days ago he was right back to it, 163 00:10:40.120 --> 00:10:44.240 claiming that his laptop, as we now have confirmed, was 164 00:10:44.440 --> 00:10:48.600 not real and that Mayor Rudy Giuliani, Steve Bannon, and 165 00:10:48.720 --> 00:10:54.799 Roger Stone somehow got screenshots and falsified his laptop. The 166 00:10:54.879 --> 00:10:58.480 laptop is absolutely real, and it's shocking if you'd like 167 00:10:58.559 --> 00:11:01.559 to see those shocking and records, you can go to 168 00:11:02.000 --> 00:11:07.600 Marcopolo dot org. Marcopolo dot Org. I think Hunter Biden 169 00:11:07.720 --> 00:11:10.639 has the money, but he now presents himself as a 170 00:11:10.639 --> 00:11:15.519 pendulist victim of debt generated by defending his degenerate conduct. 171 00:11:15.559 --> 00:11:19.559 He's likely hiding money somewhere, hoping he dishonestly can stiffest credits. 172 00:11:20.039 --> 00:11:23.320 Once a low life, always a low life. Thanks for 173 00:11:23.720 --> 00:11:26.360 joining us today in the Stone Zone. I'm Roger Stone. 174 00:11:27.039 --> 00:11:31.559 We have addressed the question of Secretary of Housing and 175 00:11:31.879 --> 00:11:37.440 Apartment Secretary of Homeland Security, who, as I say, stepped in. 176 00:11:37.440 --> 00:11:39.399 And when we come back, I want to talk about 177 00:11:39.440 --> 00:11:42.840 Catherine Herridge. I think she's one of the finest investigative 178 00:11:42.879 --> 00:11:46.120 journalists of our generation, and I think she's being harassed. 179 00:11:46.480 --> 00:11:48.720 We'll be talking about that on the other side. Zone, 180 00:11:48.759 --> 00:11:52.440 don't go away, Welcome back into the Stone Zone. If 181 00:11:52.440 --> 00:11:55.039 I didn't make it clear in the last segment anything, 182 00:11:55.120 --> 00:11:59.360 I know. Everything I know about Hunter Biden's laptop I 183 00:11:59.480 --> 00:12:02.000 read in the New York Post through the great reporting 184 00:12:02.000 --> 00:12:05.120 of Miranda Divine. In other words, I never had or 185 00:12:05.279 --> 00:12:09.440 saw Hunter Biden's laptop contents until I read about it 186 00:12:09.480 --> 00:12:14.039 in the post and any claim by Hunter Biden to 187 00:12:14.080 --> 00:12:17.200 the contrary's false. At one point, is lawyers sent me 188 00:12:17.240 --> 00:12:20.480 a threatening letter telling me I should preserve all of 189 00:12:20.480 --> 00:12:23.000 my records. That would be easy because that would be 190 00:12:23.159 --> 00:12:26.919 no records whatsoever. This guy really is pathetic. By the way, 191 00:12:26.919 --> 00:12:30.000 now he was talking about running for vice president. I 192 00:12:30.080 --> 00:12:33.159 kind of liked that idea, the Kamala Harris Hunter Biden ticket. 193 00:12:33.600 --> 00:12:38.120 We should be so lucky. The coordinated censorship campaign by 194 00:12:38.120 --> 00:12:42.120 the fake news media regarding doctor Anthony Fauci's newly released 195 00:12:42.159 --> 00:12:47.159 diary entries demonstrates why independent media or people or networks 196 00:12:47.200 --> 00:12:49.960 like the Red Apple Network are growing in strength. A 197 00:12:50.120 --> 00:12:54.320 Media Research Center analysis found scant or almost non existent 198 00:12:54.440 --> 00:13:00.759 coverage across ABC, CBS, NBC, Apple News, Google News, and MSN. 199 00:13:00.840 --> 00:13:04.960 After Senator Rayin Paul's office release the embarrassing and legally 200 00:13:05.000 --> 00:13:09.399 problematic diary records, I had a Fauci's senate testimony. The 201 00:13:09.440 --> 00:13:14.000 diary's address Fauci's obsession with his media celebrity, his private 202 00:13:14.080 --> 00:13:17.480 doubts that COVID nineteen originated in a wet market, his 203 00:13:17.600 --> 00:13:21.519 thinking about school closures. He specifically said publicly that he 204 00:13:21.679 --> 00:13:25.440 never advocated the closing in any schools. His diary, for example, 205 00:13:25.799 --> 00:13:30.279 showed others as well as the comments regarding the lability theory, 206 00:13:31.000 --> 00:13:34.120 as well as coordination with prominent journalists, control the narrative 207 00:13:34.519 --> 00:13:38.639 and suppressed the truth about the pandemic's real origins. Yet 208 00:13:38.679 --> 00:13:43.120 the Media Research Center only found ten major stories on 209 00:13:43.240 --> 00:13:46.639 major news apps, and to combine twenty seven minutes of 210 00:13:47.000 --> 00:13:50.679 network broadcast coverage, we covered more than that right here 211 00:13:50.720 --> 00:13:53.480 in the Stone Zone. Much of the attention arrived on 212 00:13:53.519 --> 00:13:57.240 the hearing day, reducing the diary disclosures to background material, 213 00:13:57.320 --> 00:14:01.759 while the coverage emphasized the hearings partsying conflict. Now, I 214 00:14:01.799 --> 00:14:05.360 am not among those who criticizes Fauci for asserting his 215 00:14:05.399 --> 00:14:10.159 Fifth Amendment rights. However, in a court of law, he 216 00:14:10.200 --> 00:14:12.320 would not have been able to assert his Fifth Amendment 217 00:14:12.360 --> 00:14:16.320 rights because he has a preemptive presidential pardon for the 218 00:14:16.399 --> 00:14:19.600 period in which he was being questioned about. So, in 219 00:14:19.639 --> 00:14:22.120 other words, in court, he would have had been compelled 220 00:14:22.120 --> 00:14:27.639 to testify or face contempt charges in this particular case. However, 221 00:14:27.759 --> 00:14:31.360 to be absolutely clear, asserting one's Fifth Amendment right is not, 222 00:14:32.200 --> 00:14:36.039 despite what Senator Josh always said, is not proof of guilt. 223 00:14:36.679 --> 00:14:39.639 I myself pled the fifth before the January sixth Committee 224 00:14:39.720 --> 00:14:42.600 because I knew it was a witch hun I knew 225 00:14:42.639 --> 00:14:45.600 it was an illegally constituted committee. I knew that they 226 00:14:45.600 --> 00:14:49.240 had coached witnesses to lie, particularly about me and my 227 00:14:49.320 --> 00:14:53.320 friend General Flynn, that they had used fabricated AI generated 228 00:14:53.639 --> 00:14:58.080 videos and audios. And I had extensive experience in the 229 00:14:58.080 --> 00:15:02.919 way democrats twist in actuous misstatements that are immaterial and 230 00:15:03.039 --> 00:15:07.799 have no underlying crime to be process crimes. So I'm 231 00:15:07.799 --> 00:15:10.159 not surprised that Fauchi took the fifth. Where I think 232 00:15:10.240 --> 00:15:14.799 israel liability lies are the difference between his public statements 233 00:15:15.200 --> 00:15:18.919 and what's in the diary, and of course the media 234 00:15:19.039 --> 00:15:22.879 covered that almost not at all. I guess if I 235 00:15:22.960 --> 00:15:25.320 were the Attorney General of the United States, who's clearly 236 00:15:25.399 --> 00:15:28.480 at this point Piers going to be Todd Blanche now 237 00:15:28.519 --> 00:15:30.720 that the two senators who are holding up his nomination 238 00:15:31.120 --> 00:15:37.320 seem to have folded, I would pursue the false statements 239 00:15:37.919 --> 00:15:42.159 charges where he's testified before the Senate saying that the 240 00:15:42.240 --> 00:15:46.240 weaponization of the COVID nineteen vaccination, the gain of function 241 00:15:46.320 --> 00:15:48.559 that you and I paid for, did not come from 242 00:15:48.559 --> 00:15:53.159 the Wuhan, Chinese lab That's a simple crime, much more 243 00:15:53.200 --> 00:15:57.480 simpler to prosecute than crimes against humanity. Fauci's lawyers would 244 00:15:57.480 --> 00:16:00.960 immediately respond that he can't be prosecuted because he has 245 00:16:00.960 --> 00:16:04.240 a preemptive pardon. The Justice Department could argue that pardon 246 00:16:04.320 --> 00:16:07.799 is invalid because it was signed by Autopen, and the 247 00:16:07.879 --> 00:16:11.679 Autopen would be before the courts for adjudication in terms 248 00:16:11.679 --> 00:16:15.120 of whether an autopen signature that Joe Biden clearly knows 249 00:16:15.320 --> 00:16:19.559 nothing whatsoever about provides the legal protection that people like 250 00:16:20.440 --> 00:16:24.159 doctor Fauci claim it did. I'm Roger Stone will gripe 251 00:16:24.200 --> 00:16:26.480 back when we come back on talking about Katherine Herridge. 252 00:16:26.720 --> 00:16:30.120 I think she's the greatest investigative journalist of the day. 253 00:16:30.240 --> 00:16:41.519 Don't go away. 254 00:16:42.879 --> 00:16:47.720 Catherine Herridge is one of the finest investigative journalists of 255 00:16:47.720 --> 00:16:51.440 her generation. An Emmy Award winning reporter with the decades 256 00:16:51.480 --> 00:16:56.480 of experience covering terrorism, intelligence, national security, and law enforcement. 257 00:16:56.919 --> 00:16:59.399 She built her reputation in the old fashioned way by 258 00:16:59.399 --> 00:17:04.680 cultivating sources, verifying facts, and publishing stories that powerful people 259 00:17:04.799 --> 00:17:08.200 often wish had never seen the light of day. Whether 260 00:17:08.279 --> 00:17:11.920 she was at ABC News, Fox News, or CBS News 261 00:17:12.400 --> 00:17:15.880 Heriage earned the respect of colleagues and government officials alike 262 00:17:15.960 --> 00:17:23.279 because she was meticulous, fearless, loyal, honest, courageous, and relentless 263 00:17:23.319 --> 00:17:27.279 in pursuing the truth. Those very qualities have now made 264 00:17:27.279 --> 00:17:30.839 her the target of a legal campaign so evil and 265 00:17:30.920 --> 00:17:34.680 so vindictive that it should alarm every American who still 266 00:17:34.720 --> 00:17:39.839 believes in a free press. See Catherine Herridge's legal ordeal 267 00:17:39.920 --> 00:17:43.599 began in twenty seventeen in an investigation she purported on 268 00:17:43.960 --> 00:17:48.680 while at Fox News, concerning Yan paying Chen, a Chinese 269 00:17:48.680 --> 00:17:53.559 American scientist whose Virginia institution had received Department of Defense 270 00:17:53.960 --> 00:17:57.799 now called the Department of War funding, while also attracting 271 00:17:58.000 --> 00:18:04.359 FBI counterintelligence scrutiny over alleged ties to China's People's Liberation Army. 272 00:18:04.960 --> 00:18:08.440 Chen was never charged with a crime, but later sued 273 00:18:08.480 --> 00:18:12.240 the federal government, claiming the officials had improperly leaked information 274 00:18:12.680 --> 00:18:17.160 about the investigation. When years of litigation failed to identify 275 00:18:17.599 --> 00:18:21.920 the alleged government source, the lawyers then turned their attention 276 00:18:22.119 --> 00:18:27.359 to Herodge herself, demanding that the reporter reveal the confidential 277 00:18:27.400 --> 00:18:32.000 sources who had entrusted her with the information. She refused, 278 00:18:32.480 --> 00:18:38.000 honoring the most fundamental obligation of any serious investigative journalists. 279 00:18:38.680 --> 00:18:43.039 That refusal has come at a financially debilitating personal cost, 280 00:18:43.160 --> 00:18:46.880 which I learned about when Herodge herself described it publicly 281 00:18:46.960 --> 00:18:51.279 on her social media page on x. Rather than accept 282 00:18:51.359 --> 00:18:55.240 the principle that reporters must be able to protect confidential sources, 283 00:18:55.279 --> 00:18:59.079 the courts have attempted to force Catherine Herridge into submission 284 00:18:59.440 --> 00:19:03.839 through finding punishment. She's been held in civil contempt in 285 00:19:03.920 --> 00:19:07.400 order to pay eight hundred dollars a day, every single day, 286 00:19:07.720 --> 00:19:11.000 until she agrees to betray the people who place their 287 00:19:11.000 --> 00:19:14.839 trust in her and expected confidentiality when they spoke as 288 00:19:14.839 --> 00:19:19.319 a confidential source. Imagine that for a moment. Do you 289 00:19:19.359 --> 00:19:20.559 have eight hundred dollars a day? 290 00:19:21.079 --> 00:19:22.920 I don't. Now. 291 00:19:22.920 --> 00:19:26.359 There are efforts to increase those penalties dramatically to five 292 00:19:26.480 --> 00:19:30.519 thousand dollars a day, while preventing outside organizations from helping 293 00:19:30.599 --> 00:19:35.000 pay them. The strategy here is as transparent as as reprehensible. 294 00:19:35.519 --> 00:19:38.960 If they cannot force her to surrender voluntarily, they intend 295 00:19:39.039 --> 00:19:43.880 to bankrupt her into compliance. That's not justice, it's persecution. 296 00:19:45.279 --> 00:19:49.000 It's difficult to escape the conclusion that some people will 297 00:19:49.039 --> 00:19:52.759 not be satisfied until Catherine Arige has been financially destroyed 298 00:19:53.200 --> 00:19:56.279 and is living in abject poverty, which is what these 299 00:19:56.319 --> 00:19:59.720 fines are designed to do to her. The objective is 300 00:19:59.759 --> 00:20:02.240 not simply to collect the file's objectives to make an 301 00:20:02.240 --> 00:20:06.319 example of Katherine Ergey. They seek to inflict such overwhelming 302 00:20:06.319 --> 00:20:09.920 economic and emotional pressure that no journalists will ever dare 303 00:20:09.960 --> 00:20:15.000 to promise confidentiality to a government source. They actually appear 304 00:20:15.079 --> 00:20:18.440 determined to hound her until she has nothing left, as 305 00:20:18.480 --> 00:20:20.960 they will not rest until she's reduced to living in 306 00:20:21.000 --> 00:20:24.599 the gutter and aiding garbage for the unforgivable offense of 307 00:20:24.720 --> 00:20:28.799 keeping her word and protecting her sources. This is nothing 308 00:20:28.880 --> 00:20:32.200 less than an assault on investigative journalism itself. If Frank 309 00:20:32.200 --> 00:20:36.319 short Handy is right, journalism is dead. Confidential sources are 310 00:20:36.359 --> 00:20:40.000 not some modern invention or legal loophole. They are the 311 00:20:40.039 --> 00:20:44.599 lifeblood of accountability reporting. Without confidential sources, there would be 312 00:20:44.599 --> 00:20:47.920 no Pentagon papers. There would have been no Watergate, there 313 00:20:47.920 --> 00:20:52.480 would be no whistleblowers exposing corruption inside the intelligence agencies. 314 00:20:52.880 --> 00:20:56.079 There would be no federal law enforcement sources or national 315 00:20:56.079 --> 00:20:59.799 security establishment. Corruption could go unabated because there would be 316 00:20:59.799 --> 00:21:05.119 no whistleblowers. Every major scandal involving government's conduct has depended 317 00:21:05.200 --> 00:21:08.839 upon brave individuals willing to step forward and speak only 318 00:21:08.880 --> 00:21:13.240 because they believed a journalist would protect their identity. Destroy 319 00:21:13.319 --> 00:21:18.799 that trust and you completely destroy investigative journalism. Now, Catherine 320 00:21:18.839 --> 00:21:23.400 Herridge's reporting has consistently focused on subjects many establishment journalists 321 00:21:23.440 --> 00:21:30.200 either ignored or dismissed. Included terrorism, foreign intelligence operations, Chinese espionage, 322 00:21:30.400 --> 00:21:35.359 and government accountability. These are precise to the areas where 323 00:21:35.599 --> 00:21:40.599 confidential sources are actually indispensable. Every intelligence officer, every law 324 00:21:40.680 --> 00:21:45.119 enforcement officer, every government official contemplating exposing wrongdoing is now 325 00:21:45.519 --> 00:21:50.759 watching Catherine Herriage's case unfold. The message they're receiving could 326 00:21:50.759 --> 00:21:53.160 not be clear. If you speak to a reporter, the 327 00:21:53.200 --> 00:21:57.440 government may pursue that reporter relentlessly until your identity is exposed. 328 00:21:58.160 --> 00:22:00.960 That chilling effects is exactly what may be this case 329 00:22:01.119 --> 00:22:05.119 so dangerous yet so important. The victim is not merely 330 00:22:05.200 --> 00:22:09.119 Catherine Herridge. The victim is every future whistleblower who may 331 00:22:09.119 --> 00:22:12.799 now decide that speaking the truth simply carries too gray 332 00:22:12.920 --> 00:22:17.400 of a personal risk. What makes the silence of much 333 00:22:17.440 --> 00:22:19.759 of the corporate media, especially shameful as the fact that 334 00:22:19.759 --> 00:22:24.119 the principal of state transcends politics. Whether a journalist works 335 00:22:24.160 --> 00:22:27.240 for Fox News, CBS News, The New York Times, or 336 00:22:27.359 --> 00:22:32.200 an independent outlet is beside the point. Really, either journalists 337 00:22:32.200 --> 00:22:35.240 have the ability to protect confidential sources or they do not. 338 00:22:36.039 --> 00:22:40.519 Once that principle is compromised, every newsroom becomes vulnerable, every 339 00:22:40.599 --> 00:22:46.079 investigative reporter becomes a potential target. Catherine Herridge could end 340 00:22:46.119 --> 00:22:49.880 this ordeal tomorrow by simply surrendering the identities of the 341 00:22:49.920 --> 00:22:54.000 people who trusted her and spare herself these mounting legal 342 00:22:54.039 --> 00:22:59.160 bills and crushing daily finds. Instead, she's chosen honor over 343 00:22:59.240 --> 00:23:04.599 convenions and professional ethics over personal comfort. She refused to 344 00:23:04.599 --> 00:23:07.920 break her word despite extraordinary pressure designed to make that 345 00:23:08.039 --> 00:23:12.319 promise impossible to keep. That is courage, that is sacrificed. 346 00:23:12.559 --> 00:23:17.160 That is principal. History has repeatedly vindicated those who refuse 347 00:23:17.240 --> 00:23:21.480 to abandon principle when the cost became unbearable. Catherine Herridge 348 00:23:21.519 --> 00:23:24.519 is not merely defending herself. She's defending one of the 349 00:23:24.559 --> 00:23:28.720 cornerstones of a free society. If those determined to financially 350 00:23:28.759 --> 00:23:33.759 crush or succeed, they will not simply silence one courageous journalist. 351 00:23:34.240 --> 00:23:38.559 They will actually intimidate an entire generation of reporters and whistleblowers. 352 00:23:39.279 --> 00:23:43.440 Every American who values the First Amendment should recognize exactly 353 00:23:43.519 --> 00:23:47.440 what's happening here. Catherine Herrids is paying an extraordinary personal 354 00:23:47.480 --> 00:23:50.599 price to preserve a principle, but it protects all of us. 355 00:23:51.000 --> 00:23:55.680 She deserves our gratitude, our admiration, and her unwavering support, 356 00:23:56.440 --> 00:24:00.400 not a legal campaign calculated to bankrupt and destroy Earth. 357 00:24:00.759 --> 00:24:03.400 Reading about this case, I felt strongly about talking about 358 00:24:03.400 --> 00:24:06.000 it in the Stone Zone today, and I'm happy that 359 00:24:06.079 --> 00:24:09.599 I did, speaking of those in the media who are contemptible. 360 00:24:09.680 --> 00:24:14.519 CNN reporter Dana Bash was recently humbled and humiliated during 361 00:24:14.519 --> 00:24:19.279 an encounter with HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Junior. During 362 00:24:19.319 --> 00:24:23.079 a contentious interview, Bash pressed Kennedy to urge parents to 363 00:24:23.200 --> 00:24:27.079 vaccinate children against measles. Kennedy was happy to do so, 364 00:24:27.160 --> 00:24:31.480 navigating easily out of Bashe's pathetic gotcha attempt. The dispute 365 00:24:31.519 --> 00:24:35.200 then shifted to covid era policy, with Kennedy arguing that 366 00:24:35.240 --> 00:24:38.799 Lockdown's inflicted enormous danger, damaged to the country and that 367 00:24:38.880 --> 00:24:42.519 President Donald Trump had pushed Anthony Fauci to reopen the country. 368 00:24:43.200 --> 00:24:48.160 Bash accused Kennedy of encouraging vaccine hesitancy. Kenn responded that 369 00:24:48.200 --> 00:24:51.880 her response was not to eliminate hesitancy, but to tell 370 00:24:51.920 --> 00:24:56.640 Americans the truth that distinction is analytically important. I believe 371 00:24:57.279 --> 00:25:01.079 public confidence canp be restored by demanding deference. It depends 372 00:25:01.119 --> 00:25:06.359 on transparent evidence, open debate, and accountability when the authorities 373 00:25:06.400 --> 00:25:10.880 are wrong. Particularly when Bash cited numerous big farmer backed studies, 374 00:25:10.960 --> 00:25:14.240 Kennedy accused her of repeating conclusions without being prepared to 375 00:25:14.279 --> 00:25:18.720 debate the underlying science. He then argued that Fauci misled 376 00:25:18.720 --> 00:25:24.279 the public about masks, distancing natural immunity, vaccine transmission, and 377 00:25:24.359 --> 00:25:29.319 COVID's origins, while media outlets punish people who questioned experts, 378 00:25:29.759 --> 00:25:33.960 with those assertions now being unassailably true. Kennedy, who has 379 00:25:34.000 --> 00:25:37.839 without question my favorite cabinet officer, strongest point was broader 380 00:25:37.880 --> 00:25:42.559 than any single medical claim. Expertise is not self validating, 381 00:25:42.640 --> 00:25:47.240 and journalism fails when it substitutes credentials and consensus slogans 382 00:25:47.279 --> 00:25:51.839 for scrutiny. Even correct recommendations become less persuasive. When delivered 383 00:25:51.880 --> 00:25:56.079 through coercion, or when past errors are dismissed or ignored. 384 00:25:56.599 --> 00:26:00.000 This is where the establishment has such massive credibility problems. 385 00:26:00.519 --> 00:26:04.240 It isn't because of conspiracy theories. It's because they have 386 00:26:04.359 --> 00:26:05.559 repeatedly failed. 387 00:26:05.640 --> 00:26:05.799 Us. 388 00:26:06.519 --> 00:26:12.759 Bash disingenually framed Kennedy's skepticism as dangerous messaging. Kennedy countered, 389 00:26:12.799 --> 00:26:17.400 the suppressing questions is more dangerous because it destroys institutional credibility. 390 00:26:17.839 --> 00:26:21.319 Until they remedy their ways, more people will question vaccinations 391 00:26:21.359 --> 00:26:24.160 and other drugs produced by big farmer in the hopes 392 00:26:24.160 --> 00:26:28.920 of reclaiming their health from corporate monoliths. Meanwhile, in the 393 00:26:28.960 --> 00:26:33.200 Texas Senate race, which all eyes are on Texas US 394 00:26:33.200 --> 00:26:39.279 Senate Canada, James Tallerico cynically representing progressive policy as Christian doctrine, 395 00:26:39.559 --> 00:26:43.880 exploring the example of Christ to selling government run healthcare agenda. 396 00:26:44.079 --> 00:26:48.000 Yes you heard me right. Speaking at a church in DeSoto, Texas, 397 00:26:48.240 --> 00:26:51.680 Tallarico argued that America should finish the work of President 398 00:26:51.680 --> 00:26:55.839 Obama declaring healthcare a human right rather than a privilege. 399 00:26:56.279 --> 00:27:00.000 He pointed to Jesus healing miracles and Matthew twenty five 400 00:27:00.200 --> 00:27:03.400 his evidence as Christians should support his plan, which includes 401 00:27:03.680 --> 00:27:06.960