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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to k I Am six forty the bill

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<v Speaker 2>I Am six forty bill Handle.

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<v Speaker 1>Here it is a taco Tuesday, June seventeenth. Pretty special

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<v Speaker 1>guest this morning a friend of Amy's, Colonel Nick Hayes,

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<v Speaker 1>NASA astronaut, who is on a four month tour, a

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<v Speaker 1>PR tour around the country because that's what they do.

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<v Speaker 1>And he brought his fourteen year old son with him, Asher,

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<v Speaker 1>And I asked, Asher, are you bored silly coming to

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<v Speaker 1>these things? He said absolutely so, Colonel Haig, how can

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<v Speaker 1>you do that to your kid?

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<v Speaker 3>I know it's cruel and unusual punishment, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, fourteen year olds? Look what you did.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, congratulations, you're starting your summer vacation and you get

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<v Speaker 4>to follow me around for a week.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I also asked him, so do you stay in the

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<v Speaker 1>same hotel room as your dad?

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<v Speaker 2>He goes absolutely. I go do they give you an

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<v Speaker 2>nice hotel room?

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<v Speaker 1>Goes no, no, no, no, this is the gard special

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<v Speaker 1>treatment nothing, you know, this small hotel room and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>none of that. Although you have the Dodger game today,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a Colonel Haig, do you mind if we get

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<v Speaker 1>inform informal, can I just call you colonel Haig? You

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<v Speaker 1>could just call me Nick and that'd be great. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>that's even better. Well you can call me your excellent

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<v Speaker 1>See that works out.

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<v Speaker 3>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh do I have questions? Now?

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<v Speaker 1>I know you've gotten every question in the world. Inevitably

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<v Speaker 1>the bathroom question everybody asked you.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that where you're starting?

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<v Speaker 1>No, God, now I will finish up there. Yea, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't care less. Uh. And the food, there's so

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<v Speaker 1>much tang you can drink, of course, you know the

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<v Speaker 1>food that Yeah, okay, fine, we've done that. But life

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<v Speaker 1>on the space station. Uh, that one gets kind of interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, what's the difference between, for example, being

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<v Speaker 1>weightless and going in a really fast elevator?

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<v Speaker 2>So is it just a question of time?

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<v Speaker 4>So weightless, it's it's the we're up there in orbit

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<v Speaker 4>because we're all falling toward the center of the Earth.

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<v Speaker 4>We just happen to be going fast enough forward that

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<v Speaker 4>as we fall the trajectory, the curvature of our trajectory

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<v Speaker 4>matches the curvature of the Earth. And so if you

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<v Speaker 4>could throw a baseball five miles a second, then it

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<v Speaker 4>would go into orbit, but you can't throw it that fast.

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<v Speaker 4>But that's what we do with the space station. So

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<v Speaker 4>there's this thing up there that's the size of a

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<v Speaker 4>football field that we assembled over the course of a

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<v Speaker 4>decade and over one hundred spacewalks put this laboratory together,

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<v Speaker 4>and it allows us to float or free fall NonStop

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<v Speaker 4>as long as we want to.

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<v Speaker 2>So, uh, do you get used to it? I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>does that become do wayless?

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<v Speaker 1>This just becomes sort of a normal thing like gravity

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<v Speaker 4>We don't pay attention to Your body adapts, your mind adapts,

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<v Speaker 4>and so first your your body figures out, hey, everything's

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<v Speaker 4>floating inside me, and it starts to adapt how it

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<v Speaker 4>processes those inputs, and so it stops listening to your

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<v Speaker 4>cues on how you navigate around. You start predicting subconsciously

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<v Speaker 4>how things are going to behave based on floating versus

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<v Speaker 4>being in gravity. So if go back to a ball analogy,

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<v Speaker 4>if I was going to throw a ball when I'm

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<v Speaker 4>up there, if I threw it to you, I'd invariably

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<v Speaker 4>hit the ceiling when I first got there, because I'm

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<v Speaker 4>trying to compensate for gravity. When I get back down

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<v Speaker 4>to Earth, the exact same happens. So you know, you

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<v Speaker 4>throw it short because you're not planning on gravity. I've

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<v Speaker 4>been back three months, so I've got high hopes that

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<v Speaker 4>I'm actually going to get the first pitch across the

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<v Speaker 4>plate tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's right, you are. Show Hey, Otani's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be putting the ball in orbit. I understand he'll do

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<v Speaker 1>that five miles a second. Now I know that, and

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<v Speaker 1>everybody sees that in the videos. Is the exercise two

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<v Speaker 1>and a half hours you have to do and that

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<v Speaker 1>two and a half hours of They get at least

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<v Speaker 1>give you a little screen in front so you can

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<v Speaker 1>watch Netflix or something.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, that's because the wall is like two feet away.

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<v Speaker 4>It get pretty monotonous. So we do have iPads up there,

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<v Speaker 4>get apps we can download. We've got great connectivity up there,

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<v Speaker 4>so I can download shows and binge watch seasons of things.

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<v Speaker 4>So there's a lot of there's a lot of podcasts.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a lot of things that you can listen to

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<v Speaker 4>two and a half hours a day every day.

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<v Speaker 2>You we get bored.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean just you know, you're doing this basically this

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<v Speaker 1>sort of the same thing, or is it so different,

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<v Speaker 1>different experiments, different things that you do that it's just

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<v Speaker 1>all fascinating.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like waking up at Christmas. You don't know what's

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<v Speaker 4>going to be inside some of these boxes. Some of

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<v Speaker 4>the stuff we don't actually see until I open it up.

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<v Speaker 4>And so there's a team on the ground, hundreds of people.

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<v Speaker 4>They plan every five minute segment of the day, and

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<v Speaker 4>from seven thirty in the morning till seven thirty at night,

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<v Speaker 4>they're telling us, hey, this is what you need to do,

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<v Speaker 4>and so we do experiment after maintenance after experience. Keep

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<v Speaker 4>busy and it's different every day, and so we're busy,

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<v Speaker 4>the time flies, and then if you're ever bored, then

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<v Speaker 4>all you need to do is just.

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<v Speaker 3>Float over to the window.

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<v Speaker 1>How much free time do you get a day? If any?

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<v Speaker 1>Free time is how you define it. You know, during

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<v Speaker 1>the work day, there's not really much free time. Before

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<v Speaker 1>we start the work day, You've got about an hour

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<v Speaker 1>and a half after you wake up, but you got

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<v Speaker 1>to eat and you got to get ready for the

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<v Speaker 1>day and check your email and check in with the

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<v Speaker 1>family at home. And then you've got about an hour

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<v Speaker 1>two hours before you go to bed after the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the workday, and so there's time to steal away

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<v Speaker 1>moments and enjoy living in space.

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<v Speaker 2>Say you're up for how long?

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<v Speaker 3>Six months? This time?

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<v Speaker 1>Around six months? Yeah, and you're there. Obviously, do they

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<v Speaker 1>pay you overtime over forty hours?

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<v Speaker 3>I would think no salary employee, no overtime.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, it turns out you don't even make minimum wage.

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<v Speaker 3>Does it not if you add up all the hours? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>all right.

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<v Speaker 2>Colonel haigu is here. Colonel Nick Haig is with us.

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<v Speaker 1>Say an astronaut, am still working as an astronaut. We

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<v Speaker 1>were just talking Nick, You've been kind enough to let

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<v Speaker 1>me call you Nick. That we were going through the

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<v Speaker 1>process of how you get selected as an astronaut. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a space buff and you go look back to

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<v Speaker 1>the original seven astronauts and what they had to go through.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the testing, I mean, for it's just insane.

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<v Speaker 1>They got prodded and poked and I mean there were

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<v Speaker 1>more things going to their bodies simultaneously.

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<v Speaker 2>That's just part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Are they still that insane or has it become reality now?

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<v Speaker 4>They are still that thorough yes, you know, medical getting

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<v Speaker 4>over the medical bar is one of those high things.

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<v Speaker 4>So you know, if you want to become an astronaut,

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<v Speaker 4>you got to take care of yourself, you know, just

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<v Speaker 4>in general it's a good thing to take care of

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<v Speaker 4>your body and take care of yourself and stay in shape.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, it's an in depth, thorough screening process. But

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<v Speaker 4>it all starts with an application. And to apply to

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<v Speaker 4>be an astronaut, you just have to be a you know,

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<v Speaker 4>a US citizen and have a master's degree in a

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<v Speaker 4>STEM field and submit your application online when they send

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<v Speaker 4>out a call for a selection, and they do that

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<v Speaker 4>based on demand, and on average it's been about once

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<v Speaker 4>every four or five years there'll be a job listing

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<v Speaker 4>on USA Jobs.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, it used to be we go back to the

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<v Speaker 1>original Yeah, right there. You look at indeed, the original

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<v Speaker 1>astronauts and in the second class, and Neil Armstrong was

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<v Speaker 1>in the second class astronauts, interestingly enough, and he had

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<v Speaker 2>Out didn't make it. They were all test pilots.

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<v Speaker 1>That was Eisenhower who decided that test pilots were going

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<v Speaker 1>to be it. Anybody who I'm assuming is either the

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<v Speaker 1>commander or actually flies, you know, pilots they aircraft and

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<v Speaker 1>during the Shuttle days had to be a pilot of

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<v Speaker 4>Right, Yeah, the Space Shuttle was a different vehicle. The

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<v Speaker 4>capsules we fly now have a different, different interface, if

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<v Speaker 4>you will. We still, as an astronaut Corps value the

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<v Speaker 4>skill set of the test pilot, but we also bring

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<v Speaker 4>in a pretty you know, disparate experience base when we

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<v Speaker 4>bring in a class, and so we don't want everybody

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<v Speaker 4>to be a test pilot. We want to have those different.

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<v Speaker 2>I would think.

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<v Speaker 1>So now I'm assuming the psychological testing has to be insane,

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<v Speaker 1>that you have to get along with people. Have you

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<v Speaker 1>ever flown with anybody that just everybody hated? Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just I hate that person and you're there for six months.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you know, fortunately we don't end up on the

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<v Speaker 4>International Space Station like that. There's you know, we we

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<v Speaker 4>select people coming in, and you're right, there is a

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<v Speaker 4>pretty steep or pretty thorough selection process where we'll bring

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<v Speaker 4>people in and you know, put them in this in

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<v Speaker 4>this situation, put a number on them, have a whole

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<v Speaker 4>group of people surrounding them taking notes, and then give

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<v Speaker 4>see how the stress of the situation plays out and

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<v Speaker 4>understand their inner skills, because fundamentally, you want to be

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<v Speaker 4>that are good people to work with, and so we

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<v Speaker 4>really want to know do you have those soft skills

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<v Speaker 4>you Are you a good teammate? Do you take care

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<v Speaker 4>people that you're with? And are you kind?

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<v Speaker 2>Do they put groups together? I mean, did you meet.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's say this is the crew that's going to go up,

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<v Speaker 1>and y'all sit around and do a cocktail party the

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<v Speaker 2>Or field trips in Disneyland or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>We do our version of that.

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<v Speaker 4>So once I got assigned to Crew nine mission, we

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<v Speaker 4>an outfit there, the National Outdoor Leadership School, we did

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<v Speaker 4>a six day camping trip up into the mountains in

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<v Speaker 4>waist deep snow and built igloes and suffered in the

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, we spend time intentionally getting to know each

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<v Speaker 4>other and understand, you know, what's everybody everybody's got pet peeves.

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<v Speaker 4>Everybody got things that kind of you know, we'll set

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of big glob building, I'm assuming on the

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know how you do it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm assuming one person stays awake just as a

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you always got a guard against the aliens out there.

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<v Speaker 4>I know where you're going with this. We all sleep

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<v Speaker 4>together and fortunately the ground is there twenty four to seven,

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<v Speaker 3>It's a gigantic team that makes it work well.

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<v Speaker 1>Apolo was what four hundred thousand people that put the

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<v Speaker 1>three men on the moon. What was the first meal

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<v Speaker 1>What's the best thing that they serve you up there

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<v Speaker 4>best foods up there. I got a sweet tooth, So

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<v Speaker 4>up there every day, which affords me the ability to

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<v Speaker 2>No corn nuts, because everybody hates those.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know they're they're hard, and so you don't

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<v Speaker 4>because then the dentist, which we don't have a dentist

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<v Speaker 4>up there. So I've had training so that I can

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<v Speaker 4>try to temporarily fill a cavity or pull a tooth.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh really, And you don't want me doing that, do you?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's cool?

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<v Speaker 1>So uh yeah, I'm assuming you're you're you know, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't have doctors up there, and I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>anybody's gotten seriously sick where they had to send someone down,

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<v Speaker 4>So we've we've had conditions, but we are always have

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<v Speaker 4>been able to manage those conditions. Space is really hard

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<v Speaker 4>on the body. Thankfully, there's a team of doctors on

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<v Speaker 4>the ground and every so often we have an astronaut

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<v Speaker 4>that is a doctor that's on board, so we leverage

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<v Speaker 4>that expertise when we can. But we've got flight surgeons

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<v Speaker 4>lot of training.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and constant training. When you're down here. As soon

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<v Speaker 1>as this tour thing is over, are you back to Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It never gets old. You're always training, you're always learning

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<v Speaker 1>something new. It's it's like, you know, it's like going

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<v Speaker 2>How often can you actually fly.

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<v Speaker 1>Or let me put it this way, the time the

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<v Speaker 1>timeline between you coming down and then everybody wants to

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<v Speaker 1>go back up on assuming as quickly as possible.

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<v Speaker 2>What's usually that timeline?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, on every.

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<v Speaker 4>It's probably it's hard to say three, four or five years.

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<v Speaker 4>When you think of the demand, there's a two year

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<v Speaker 4>usually a two year lead up to your launch, so

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<v Speaker 4>you're assigned two years of training. You launch, there's another

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<v Speaker 4>six months on board the station. And then there's a

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<v Speaker 4>six month postflight to rehabilitate, to reconnect with the family

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<v Speaker 4>and rest up and be ready to go again. So

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<v Speaker 4>that's three years minimum, but it's it's a little bit

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<v Speaker 4>more than that. You know, there's four dozen of us

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<v Speaker 4>down at Houston active astronauts on the US side, and

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<v Speaker 4>so we cycle through a flight assignments.

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<v Speaker 1>One last question, because we're out of time. When your

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<v Speaker 1>kid goes to school and they you know, they bring

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<v Speaker 1>in what your dad do day does when he says

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<v Speaker 1>my dad's an astronaut, do all the kids think he's

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<v Speaker 1>just a liar?

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<v Speaker 4>No, because we live in a town where the mayor

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<v Speaker 4>is a former astronaut and there's a dozen astronauts.

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<v Speaker 3>Deal, it's no big deal. I tell you.

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<v Speaker 4>What is a big deal is my dad he's a plumber.

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<v Speaker 4>My dad's my dad's in the space for that. That is

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit different because it hasn't existed very long,

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<v Speaker 4>and so I think that that's a that's a you know,

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<v Speaker 4>something that he is still educating his his classmates about,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, like what is a guardian?

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<v Speaker 3>What does the Space Force do?

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<v Speaker 2>That's cool, that's cool, colonel, Thank you? What a what

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<v Speaker 2>a trip?

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<v Speaker 1>This is I wish we had another hour and a

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<v Speaker 1>half on this at least, But onwards and upwards. I

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<v Speaker 1>know you're going in to the Dodger game tonight, and

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<v Speaker 1>I know anything over ten bucks you cannot accept.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to buy your own Dodger dogs.

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<v Speaker 4>We're gonna, we're gonna, We're gonna enjoy our evening and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not gonna.

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<v Speaker 3>Look at the pocketbook.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, guys, we're done. Time for Tech Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Dubuski, ABC News Technology reporter Mike is always thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for hanging out. Quick question, well I even actually not

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<v Speaker 1>even quick. The Trump family phone plan. So let me

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<v Speaker 1>ask you. I don't know if you bought a one

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<v Speaker 1>of the Trump ties bibles. The stakes were very strong,

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<v Speaker 1>and now we've got the phone plan, tell us about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Why would other than for political reasons, why would I

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<v Speaker 1>buy a phone plan?

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<v Speaker 5>That's a great question, and I will try to measure

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<v Speaker 5>up to the astronaut here.

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<v Speaker 3>I know it's a tough act to.

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<v Speaker 5>Follow, but yes, on Monday here in New York City,

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<v Speaker 5>the Trump Organization, which is not run by President Donald

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<v Speaker 5>Trump but rather run by his sons Eric and Don Junior,

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<v Speaker 5>announced that they're getting into the telecom space with Trump Mobile.

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<v Speaker 5>This is what's known as an MVNO or a virtual

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<v Speaker 5>mobile excuse me, a virtual mobile network operator, which kind

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<v Speaker 5>of piggybacks off the larger service providers in the United

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<v Speaker 5>States AT and T, Verizon T Mobile, so it should

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<v Speaker 5>offer the same coverage as those types of service providers.

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<v Speaker 5>It is forty seven forty five a month, which are

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<v Speaker 5>significant numbers for the Trump family given that that is

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<v Speaker 5>sort of his place in the presidential line. But that

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<v Speaker 5>is a little bit more expensive than what we would

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<v Speaker 5>expect from some of the competitors in this smaller network space,

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<v Speaker 5>things like Mint Mobile or things like Cricket Wireless. This

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<v Speaker 5>is a little bit pricier than that. But the Trump

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<v Speaker 5>family is saying that they're offering some bonuses, things like

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<v Speaker 5>roadside assistance and telehealth services. We don't know really how

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<v Speaker 5>that's going to work in practice, but that is what

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<v Speaker 5>they are saying. Justifies that additional cost. And in addition,

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<v Speaker 5>despite the fact that they say that this will work

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<v Speaker 5>with pretty much any modern smartphone, they're also offering their

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<v Speaker 5>own smartphone. But this thing also raises a little bit

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<v Speaker 5>more questions than it.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, maybe at.

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<v Speaker 5>First blush answers. It is called the T one. Its

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<v Speaker 5>full name is actually T one Phone eight thousand and

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<v Speaker 5>two gold version. It is gold. It has a big

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<v Speaker 5>T on the back and an American flag. They say

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<v Speaker 5>it has a six point eight inch screen with a

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<v Speaker 5>one hundred and twenty hertz refresh rate, of fifty megapixel

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<v Speaker 5>camera and a five thousand million hour long life battery.

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<v Speaker 5>So it is a pretty standard mid range Android device,

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<v Speaker 5>but there are some question marks on the website if

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<v Speaker 5>you dive a little deeper into the specs. For example,

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<v Speaker 5>the processor and RAM section claims that the storage of

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<v Speaker 5>this phone is twelve gigabytes of RAM. Ram and storage

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<v Speaker 5>are two different things, so we don't really know what

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<v Speaker 5>the storage is here. We also don't know what the

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<v Speaker 5>processor is up until this morning when they change it.

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<v Speaker 5>They also claim to have a five thousand million amp

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<v Speaker 5>hour camera of million empowers are used to describe battery size,

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<v Speaker 5>so that is also a sort of question mark there.

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<v Speaker 5>The photo they have appears to be a computer rendering.

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<v Speaker 5>It looks sort of iPhone esque, but there's no flash

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<v Speaker 5>next to the camera array, so that's a question mark

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<v Speaker 5>as well. These are all things that maybe should give

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<v Speaker 5>people pause before they put down the one hundred dollars deposit.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, by the way, one dollars deposit.

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<v Speaker 3>Towards how much five hundred dollars is.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, but obviously not the gold phone.

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<v Speaker 5>implying a non gold version of standard version, but that

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<v Speaker 5>there's no real v of that on the website at

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<v Speaker 5>this point. And in addition to that, that five hundred

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<v Speaker 5>dollars should also give us a little pause as well,

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<v Speaker 5>because the Trump family claims that they're going to build

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<v Speaker 5>this phone here, yes, at some point.

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<v Speaker 1>That is the question I asked, How does someone build

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<v Speaker 1>a phone? Considering the intricacies and the manufacturing, etc.

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<v Speaker 2>In the United States, how do you physically do that?

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<v Speaker 5>It's really difficult. In short, for one, all the reasons

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<v Speaker 5>that you laid out right, there's no real infrastructure to

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<v Speaker 5>do this. The Trump family would need to spin up

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<v Speaker 5>a factory to do this and agree with suppliers to

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<v Speaker 5>build the materials needed for this phone in the United

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<v Speaker 5>States as well. And in addition to that, there are

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<v Speaker 5>no major smartphone manufacturers building phones in the US, so

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<v Speaker 5>there's no real knowledge base to hire people to do

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<v Speaker 5>this at least here in the US either. So it's

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<v Speaker 5>going to be a big task if that is exactly

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<v Speaker 5>what they're trying to do. Now, we've seen similar phones

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<v Speaker 5>like this crop up aimed at like one specific side

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<v Speaker 5>of the political isle, on both sides of the isle,

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<v Speaker 5>where essentially they've bought cheap phones from China and then

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<v Speaker 5>imported them into the United States with different branding on them.

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<v Speaker 5>There's a phone called the Freedom Phone a few years

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<v Speaker 5>of the Trump administration, which again is separate from the

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<v Speaker 5>Trump organization, so they say, you know, is aimed at

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<v Speaker 5>bringing manufacturing back to the United States. So that's what

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<v Speaker 5>they say they're going to do. But even still, for

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<v Speaker 5>all the reasons that we've outlined, there's some reason to

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<v Speaker 5>be skeptical of that.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, I wish we had more time. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>we have to be a lot of here. You got

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more reported into. Thank you. We'll talk again

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<v Speaker 1>because there's a ton of questions I have about that

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<v Speaker 1>and the madest the meta story.

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<v Speaker 2>Take care, Mike, Thank you much.

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<v Speaker 3>Take care.

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<v Speaker 2>All right. I want to tell you.

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<v Speaker 1>A little bit about what happens happened to the Environmental

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<v Speaker 1>Protection Agency under President Trump. And one of the things,

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<v Speaker 1>as you probably know, that the cuts that have come

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<v Speaker 1>from this administration across social programs have been extraordinary, as

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<v Speaker 1>well as scientific programs. And you know about the schools

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<v Speaker 1>were federal funding. Federal grants have been cut like crazy. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the other ones that I want to spend

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<v Speaker 1>a few minutes on talking about the EPA, and the

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<v Speaker 1>agency has told the staff this is official and this

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<v Speaker 1>is the EPA oversees the country industrialized sort of Midwest.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the section that where this letter came in,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is the place that is just played with pollution,

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<v Speaker 1>the legacy of pollution. The agency has told the staff

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<v Speaker 1>stop enforcing violation against fossil fuel companies, those protections that

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<v Speaker 1>we had against fossil fuel companies. Now, I will tell

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<v Speaker 1>you here's my bias. I want to start right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Is I happen to be someone that number one believes

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<v Speaker 1>in climate change and has for a very long time

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<v Speaker 1>believes in global warming. Actually, and I am, at least

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<v Speaker 1>in this way an environmentalists, and not for the political purposes,

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<v Speaker 1>not the kumbaya, you know, getting married in front of

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<v Speaker 1>a bush and everybody holding hands and singing kind of environmentalists,

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<v Speaker 1>but the kind of environmentalists that recognizes, at least I do,

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<v Speaker 1>that we are going to be in trouble. The world

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<v Speaker 1>is truly going to be in trouble, to the point

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<v Speaker 1>where I believe that critical mass is already here. We

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<v Speaker 1>heard signed to say, you know, we still have a month,

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<v Speaker 1>we still have a year, we still have five years.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think we do. I think we have now

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<v Speaker 1>just tipped over and it's going to get worse. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is why I tell my kids, for the first

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<v Speaker 1>time in my life, I'm happy that I'm at the

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<v Speaker 1>back end, as opposed to, Oh my god, I wish

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<v Speaker 1>I would be born. I wish I were a kid

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<v Speaker 1>right now because of the technology that's coming, flying cars,

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<v Speaker 1>et cetera. Absolutely not and so ambitious. Deregulation has come

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<v Speaker 1>down and the EPA administrator Lee Zelden at the behest

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<v Speaker 1>of President Trump and Trump entered the office promising to

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<v Speaker 1>slash burden some oil and gas industry regulations and increased production.

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<v Speaker 1>As you know, one of the statements the President Trump

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<v Speaker 1>made as part of his campaign was a drill, baby, drill, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're gonna drill, baby drill. That means you have

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<v Speaker 1>to eliminate a whole lot of the protections, or if

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<v Speaker 1>you don't view them as protections, you view them as

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<v Speaker 1>policy that just gets in the way, regulations that gets

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<v Speaker 1>in the way, and that is exactly what the administration

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<v Speaker 1>is looking at. So you have and we've talked about

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<v Speaker 1>this before. There has never been a I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>so since the Civil War maybe where such polarization occurred

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<v Speaker 1>between parties and between philosophies, and here in this country.

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<v Speaker 1>So as far as the Trump administration is concerned, EPA protections,

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<v Speaker 1>if you will, are just burden, some wasteful and they

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<v Speaker 1>get in the way of what United States does and

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<v Speaker 1>does really well, and that's produced energy, albeit fossil fuel energy.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I don't even know if Trump remember when he

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<v Speaker 1>said that climate change was a hoax.

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<v Speaker 2>It was part of that crowd who said that. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if he's ever changed his mind.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he's ever admitted and I may be

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<v Speaker 1>wrong on this, that climate change is number one real

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<v Speaker 1>that I think he probably has or it is.

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<v Speaker 2>A real problem and it is not easy.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we're so these are executive orders Biden puts

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<v Speaker 1>in more protections for the EPA than had ever been

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<v Speaker 1>done before, more restrictions on power plants, VPA having more

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<v Speaker 1>and more power, and throwing in regulation after regulation, of

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<v Speaker 1>which Trump is removing virtually all of them. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is all executive order stuff, which means executive direction, which

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<v Speaker 1>means directive, which means that the next president, and assuming

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<v Speaker 1>it is going to be a Democrat, is going to

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<v Speaker 1>unravel that.

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<v Speaker 2>So nothing gets.

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<v Speaker 1>Easy, Absolutely nothing, All right, kf I am six point forty.

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<v Speaker 2>You've been listening to the Bill Handle Show.

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