Speaker 1: By Utah citizens for the Constitution.
Speaker 2: You're two to Cougar Sports on ko v O probo
k U D d HD two one oh three nine
at ninety eight three ESPN the Fan. It's time to
celebrate the greatest team sport known to man, where modern
day gladiators collide.
Speaker 3: For all the glory on the grid.
Speaker 2: Ie, let's talk some college football on Cougar Sports with
Ben Crittle.
Speaker 4: Welcome back Cougar Sports, one of Green nine ninety point
three ESPING the Fan. I'm at portal broadcasting from our
vander Rold Studios Vanderwelt dot Com. Get on that free
Q and A no obligation doing vest Q and A
with our tax sport Wealth Advisors, Certified Financial Blanders. Nobody
does it better than Bander Wealth at these time. But look,
college football, Cougar Sports, what's going on in the college
football world? Springballs right around the corner, and so we're
gonna get into that. Obviously, expectations way to the early
expectations in the Big twelve and.
Speaker 3: For b y u H.
Speaker 4: What's the latest in the college football world though, We're
going to delve into it and more here on your
Utah ESPN Radio Network. It's going to be brought to
you by Odeon Men's where Odeon Menswear dot Com.
Speaker 3: Check out the new elevatesuit.
Speaker 4: It's a sports performance at leisure shuit that provides great
range of motion, but it looks like a traditional suit.
I can, I can heini, I can butt kick, I
can carryoka, I can deep squad, I can do lunges
like awkward lunges, you know what I mean, like Nacho
Librey type of lunges. The stretching pants, that's how I
feel in them. It's fantastic and it looks like a
traditional suit. I don't want to take my shuit off
after church because it's so dann coomfortable. You can be
comfortable as well at church at with the Elevated suit.
You can get fifteen percent off when you mentioned myself
for esping the fan Crital fifteen, Crital fifteen, Crital fifteen
online or in store. Check out all of their gear
though all of their attire men's wear, churchwear, missionary attire
at Odeon Men'swear, Odeon Menswear dot Com. All right, let's
welcome into the show. A man of metrics, a man
that delves into the data. College football inshider Dave Bartwo
of CFP Matrix, Dave bar two.
Speaker 3: How the heck are you.
Speaker 5: Insider? Well, the best I can tell stories with numbers
is about as close to the inside as I get.
Speaker 4: Now that all truth resides in the numbers, doesn't it.
Speaker 5: I got I got some new ones for you, though,
you know I got. I got some new ones for you.
So here's one, because it's combined day right, yes, combine
day and and and. Last month somebody from the New
York Times got a hold of me because they were
working with the NFL and they wanted to do a
big story about the speed era of the NFL and
the size how it's gone down and the speed has
gone up and it's not true. Huh, it's not true.
I was able to get the actually, just to verify everything.
Size wise, nothing's changed in the NFL.
Speaker 1: Guess what. They're all still huge.
Speaker 5: They're not getting smaller, They're not anywhere. But speed wise,
I worked with Amazon next Gen and got all the
speed numbers for every game of every player for the
twenty twenty five season. The five fastest NFL teams four
didn't make the playoffs. Wow, okay, the five slowest teams
two made the playoffs, right, And to me it goes
back to with football, it's full body athleticism, it's not
you know, and we've tracked the draft. Teams that focus
on speed or teams that focus on on one or
two elite numbers fail in the draft. So you know,
and the same thing applies for college football is you know, now,
now granted, big size, big speed to make a little
bit more of a difference at the collegiate level, but
you are still looking for full body athleticism. So when
you're watching the combine, don't get caught up on speed.
Because the fastest teams had the worst win loss ratio
in the NFL of any five groups based on speed
and twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3: Isn't that?
Speaker 4: I mean you look at like Indiana winning the national
championship this year, like, not the biggest, not the fastest,
they're just the best football team.
Speaker 5: They're just the best football team. The other thing one
so along with that, in working with Kurt is the
focus on a sixteenth minute game. Okay, here's another one
inside the data that well might surprise people that are listening.
Pretty much everybody has heard of the middle eight, right,
That focus on the last four minutes of the second quarter,
first three minutes of the fourth quarter, and how it's
so first four minutes of the third how it's so
important in winning football games in college football. Over the
last ten years, there are eleven eight minute segments in
a college football game. It is the ninth most valuable.
Speaker 3: Wow, ninth really.
Speaker 5: So so yeah, So when you hear these coaches, oh, man,
we got to win the middle eight, which one the
first aid of the first quarter, the last date of
the first quarter. You know, it means nothing at the
collegiate level, and it' means only slightly more at the
NFL level. So when we'reing with Snetti, it was trying
to get people's minds wrapped around a sixty minute game.
Rather than focusing on little pieces at a time, you're
going more all out for the whole game. Speed doesn't
kill coaching kills with good talent, and you got to
focus on a game for sixty minutes, not particular areas
where they say, well, you're gonna win or lose a
game in this eight minutes. It's a sixty minute game.
You go for sixty minutes.
Speaker 4: I love it. That's a great breakdown. Yeah, combine season
is upon us. BYU has two invites to the NFL
comby We talk a lot about talent coming through BYU
and how talent is not always what they bring through
provo in order to have productivity and wins. But you
know what's the average? I guess what's the average? I
didn't prep you for this, but what would you say
is kind of the average individual? Like team invite, like
numbers of invites that you're getting from like a P
four institution.
Speaker 3: Typically and the set.
Speaker 4: I know the SEC has won out over the last
thirty years just because they've been buying players under the
table for so long now that everybody else can we're
going to see that number drop mark my words.
Speaker 3: But uh, what do you make of that?
Speaker 4: Like, who's uh you know what's the average? I know
BYU is probably hovering around one or two per year.
Speaker 5: Okay, Okay, three things off of everything you just said.
Number one, you are right, I am totally not prepared
for that out of left field. Okay, So but what
I want to say is, can we put a pin
in it? Because I have twenty five years of the
NFL Draft broken down by colleges by position, by NFL teams.
I would love to have a one or two segment,
you know, fifteen twenty thirty minutes with you breaking down
BYU buy the draft and success and lack thereof in
the NFL in the future.
Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, let's let's putin check on that.
Speaker 1: One, right.
Speaker 5: So, but but I have it, it's there, and there's
interesting discussions. As for the SEC I've also found so
this was interesting. As Georgia and Alabama started winning national titles,
they started getting overdrafted and so and so and so.
What was happening is gms and scouts were drafting too
many Bama and Georgia players, I believe off of name recognition,
but the starts per player. It worked okay in the first, second,
and third rounds, but they were getting overdrafted in four, fifth,
and sixth and honestly underperforming. Really really a lot of
misses in there, and nobody talks about it because everybody's
focused on that first that first and second and third round.
Speaker 1: Guy.
Speaker 5: One of the things that I've seen in the numbers
is teams that get hot in the media and the
fans will gravitate to them and overdraft the heck out
of them. So I'm curious how that relates to BYU
being overdrafted or underdrafted by position and how well the
team has been performing year over year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what's interesting.
Speaker 4: I mean, at least you look at I don't know,
you take the modern ARA. Maybe in the last twenty years,
BAU has you know, I guess a decent amount of
draft picks. I'd say it's solid more NFL players currently
in the NFL, or more former players in the NFL
than they've had probably in.
Speaker 3: The last twenty years.
Speaker 4: Right now, Kalani has done a really good job of
developing and uh, and and this coaching staff has done
a good job of like forecasting in the and and
bringing them in obviously and and developing them.
Speaker 3: At a high level.
Speaker 4: But uh, you know it's instant undrafted free agents out
of BYU tend to stick a little bit better than others.
I think, I think that would be an interesting data point.
Speaker 3: I think they do.
Speaker 1: I think they stick starts.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it may be total starts in the NFL.
This is gonna this is gonna blow some people's minds.
The last twenty year, okay, last twenty years, total starts
in the NFL thirteen percent of them are from undrafted
free agents. Wow, right, thirteen percent are undrafted free agents.
So I don't know the numbers on BYU, but I
would lean towards BYU having a lot of success there
because from a media standpoint, it's not a media darling, right,
that's not where guys get drafted from, not from BYU.
But there could be a lot of hidden talent there
and they're actually underdrafted. So when we get back to
BYU and the NFL draft, man, I'm gonna come armed
to the teeth and I'll be able to answer all
of that stuff in depth for you.
Speaker 4: I love it, man, Dave bar two CFB matrix here
on your Utah ESPN Radio network. Where have your eyes
whereas your gaze casted upon the analytics this offseason? What
have you been delving into SCFB matrix?
Speaker 5: Well, you know I did. I did the speed stuff
for the NFL in the New York Times, and I
did the middle eight. I've worked on fourth down numbers
for both the NFL and college football. I've worked on
going for two numbers NFL and college football. I'm out
usage in the NFL and college football. This one was
really interesting in that we are finding your more successful
coaches use up all their timeouts before three minutes left
in the first half. They control the game with timeouts
and control momentum better than anything else. The biggest thing
that we have found is that we found something stronger
than winning the turnover battle. Wow, and I am right now,
I am speaking to Kolani Sataki and every coach on
the BYU staff. Okay, it's in peer review right now,
But winning the turnover battle. In FBS football, you win
the turnover battle about eighty percent of the time. Seventy
four percent of the time you win the game. That
is all awesome, right, just winning the turnover battle. We
figured out a number for game control. Game control effects
nearly ninety percent of the games, and if you win
game control, you win eighty eight percent of all FBS games.
Speaker 3: So what is game What is game control? What is that?
Speaker 1: Ah? That's the thing.
Speaker 5: It's in peer review right now. We're not there yet, okay,
but when it comes out, I promise you and every
single person listening, it will completely change the way you
watch football and anticipate teams winning and losing. It is
incredible what it's going to do in terms of how coaches,
coach football, and how people watch football love that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, look, you went into fourth downs right, fourth down play.
Kilani has been a very aggressive fourth down play caller.
Every time he goes for it on fourth down from
like midfield or even from his own forty I typically
post this large bull with massive cajones and just walking
around the field. I'm like, this is Kalate. He's just like,
I'm going fourth on fourth is what I do?
Speaker 3: Anyway?
Speaker 4: Uh, you know what what data did did you find her?
Speaker 3: What? What?
Speaker 4: What were some of the conclusions from the fourth down
data that you were able to evaluate and analyze.
Speaker 5: Well, look, there's a couple of things there. No number
one and no particular order. Okay.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 5: First of all, if it's fourth and fourth and four
or more, you're kind of out of your mind. The
the the numbers fall off so hard after fourth and three.
This is why going for two is really important. If
going for two was it the two yard line not
three yard line? The percentages change immensely in both leagues,
NFL and college football. But college football, if it's fourth
and four or more, you gotta be you got to
be doing something desperate. Okay, You're you're trying to change momentum,
you're trying to stop something. You know the game is
in the balance if you're if it's fourth and four
or more in my opinion, But you also have to
look at it situationally. And one of the things that
we're trying to teach college coaches is going forward on
fourth down in September it is absolutely blind. There's no
book on it. Right, You do not know how good
or bad the BYU offense or defense is till probably
at least the end of September, right, and the same
thing with all of your opponents. So what's important in
going forward on fourth down is also understanding what is
your offensive strength what is the defense's strength. So the
stronger the defense run and pass game, the lower your
odds of converting. So you can't look at these going
for fourth down. And you know, fourth and two against
Utah is not the same as fourth and two against
Colorado or fourth and two against TCU because the defenses
are different and year over year your offense is different.
So we're trying to get coaches to look at the
moment more in terms of what you have versus what
you're facing, instead of looking at a book and saying, well,
this is what the average has been for the last
ten years. That's insanity looking at averages. You got to
look at situational football.
Speaker 4: Love that breakdown, Dave bar two CFB matrix here on
your Utah ESPN radio network.
Speaker 3: What are your way too early?
Speaker 4: Maybe prognostications on BAU football heading into twenty twenty six.
They're coming off in eleven and two, twelve and two
season they've overachieved. I'm beginning to think, you know, I
guess how would you diagnose who BYU football is? They
are winning more games versus their recruiting rankings. Maybe even
there the dollar amount allocated to them. Will give me
a little breakdown of BA football heading into twenty twenty six.
Speaker 5: Well, I know, let's let's I want to start with
one thing. The first thing is, and it's kind of
dovetails into your question, is outside of Kurt Signetti over
the last two or three years, has anybody else been
a better head coach, schedule, talent versus results than Klannie.
Speaker 3: I don't think so.
Speaker 5: I mean, nope, there isn't.
Speaker 3: There isn't.
Speaker 5: I'm answering to for you, baby, there isn't. He has
done an absolutely amazing job, completely under the radar, not
talked about, and I cannot give him enough credit for
overperforming and and and not just one season, multiple seasons
and adapting to the Big twelve this fast is one
of the best coaching jobs in the last ten years.
When you talk about twenty four plus games, absolutely amazing. Now,
what to expect, B why you coming in? I know
the fans want to expect to keep winning, right at
some point, at some point this double digit you know,
wins for years, got a break. But there seems to
be something with the player continuity edge that B WHYU
has the coaching continuity edge the BYU has had over
the last couple of years that somehow pushes them ahead
on a lot of close football games. And they've won
more than their share of close football games in the
last twenty four amazing run there. So it's the coaches
league in my opinion. I don't think the recruiting matters
as much in the Big twelve as it does in
other areas. And so now the question is, with the
loss of a couple of couple of year coaches, specifically
your defensive coordinator, how does that affect things going forward?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, I mean, I feel like I will say this.
It's a conversation we had earlier this week. There does
seem to be a trend when BYU is, you know,
winning two consecutive season to a high level double digit
wins right twenty one, there was a drop off in
twenty twenty two, gave with dead the eight and five
and then a five and seven.
Speaker 3: They're coming off eleven and two, twelve and two. Some
people think there's a little bit.
Speaker 4: Of a pride cycle, a little bit of a complacency
thing that happens. Win b who's winning at a high level.
Do you see that drop off occurring this next season?
There's a lot in the last two years, they've been
a lot of one score games.
Speaker 3: They bounced b Way's way.
Speaker 4: Will that happen in twenty twenty six, Yeah, it had
some one.
Speaker 5: Score with score games. But look at how well they
are their coaches. You know when I look at the numbers,
so you know me, I mean, I've been on your show,
enf I go to scoring efficiency. That's my number one
thing in offense and defensive scoring efficiency. And you look
at BYU in twenty twenty five, Okay, number forty in
raw offense, scoring efficiency number seventeen. In defense, when adjusted
for opponent, that forty goes to twenty four. So you
had the twenty fourth best offense, you have the twenty
seventh best defense overall in the entire country, twenty first
best offense plus defense total scoring efficiency. I mean it
was literally my comp to BYU coming in to this.
You look like on paper, you look like Michigan and Alabama.
That's what the numbers look like, right, So this is
still a even though it's winning close games, it's still
a really really good team. I don't think you can
compare the COVID year in which every team they played
they out recruited to the very next year. And I
still say the progression has been good because the last
two years outside of Signetti is one of the best
coaching jobs we have seen in all of college football.
So my big question mark is at defensive coordinator. I
don't know what Kelly's going to do because Kelly's never
done it. We got no numbers on him, he's never
called the playing you know, So I think all we
can do is probably what every BYU fan is doing,
is going well. Colonne's gotten this right an awful lot
since he's been here. He coaches way above talent year
after year after year. His bad years are still average
and his good years are great above talent. I think,
to me, the worst case scenario is you got to
be at guessing or to me, throwing a dart at
whatever the line Vegas comes out for your total wins.
I think that's the floor. He's exceeded it just about
every year, So why stop betting against that?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 3: Love it?
Speaker 4: Great breakdown CFP Matrix. Who's very owned Dave bart to Dave.
Best way to support you, what you do, how you
do it for all of our listeners. I appreciate you
hopping off for little college football segment.
Speaker 5: Just hit me on Twitter. Everything's open there. You can
find me at see if be Matrix And if you
got a text, you got a question, you got a comment,
you got an idea, text me. Here's my phone number,
ninety seven to one two one seven eighty four nineteen.
I promise at some point I will get back to you.
I appreciate everybody that reaches out.
Speaker 4: Love that man, always a blessing, always a pleasure, talking
ball with you, talking numbers with you.
Speaker 3: Thanks for hopping on.
Speaker 5: Dave anytime, buddy, they go, that's Dave bar.
Speaker 3: Two ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 4: Boys and girls appreciate him hopping on to talk to
some college football. That segment was brought to you by
Odeon Men's where Odion Menswear dot Com. Look your best,
field the best, get out there and do your best.
Try out the new elevate suit. If you're looking for
a new suit right now, look no further, try out
the sports performance athletes or suits range emotion.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: It allows for pure range emotion with no impingement, no
range emotion limitation, and it feels great. It looks great.
I mean, Ronald, you've got a couple of suits. Now
you got a couple of elevate suits. Now, like, how
would you describe the elevate suit for all of our listeners?
Speaker 6: Look, I got a kid that just started running around walking.
The confidence that you have to be able to run
with them and pick them up.
Speaker 3: It's it's easy. You can you can do.
Speaker 4: Hey, you got some legs on he as a rugby player,
do I got you know? I mean, you can squat
that thing without busting scenes.
Speaker 6: Dude, you can do everything you can, Like, guys, is
the best suiting on the man I am so fortunate
that I was introduced to Odion Men's because when you
got the thunder dies, when you're short, when you got
that five six five seven, you know you got that
baseball beild in lower extremity, you need something that's flexible.
I sit down, it doesn't curl upon me. It's nice,
it's breatheable. I can stretch. I don't cramp up old
suit's beIN. I was pulling my hamstring. I was I
having to do, you know, stretches in the morning. Now
with Odion Men's suit, it fits, fits perfectly, and then
the colors look amazing. I just got to make sure
that I don't show up the church in the same
suit as been and we're matching, because then people think
we're twins.
Speaker 4: Yes, indeed, every once a while we do show up
with the same suit, but we look good just twitting
at the creekside ward.
Speaker 3: Guys, that's our segment.
Speaker 4: Don't go anywhere, but hey, make sure you go get
some Odeon men's wear gear as you as you as
you need it.
Speaker 3: Get a new suit. Use that Criddle fifteen coupon code
La Lagers are in San Francis.
Speaker 2: Go for a showdown with the Golden State Warriors.
Speaker 4: Saturday at six on one, O three nine and ninety
eight three ESPN.
Speaker 3: The fan.
Speaker 2: Macnus of marches right around the corner and the Cougars
are in the metal of it. It's time to talk
some college basketball on Cougar Sports with Ben Crittle. Welcome Bank,
Cougar Sports.
Speaker 4: One of three ninety eight point three is being a
ban on that from broadcasting from.
Speaker 3: Our band or Wealth Studios bandonwall dot com.
Speaker 4: Get on that pre Q and a no obligation to
advance Q and a with our tax smart Wealth Advisors
certify financial planners. Nobody does it better than Plane Anderson
and his screwed its top of little college hoops talking
to BAU basketball and finding out what this team is
really made of? Can they finish strong? Can they Can
they figure out who they are, where they're going, what
they stand for, if they're gonna play defense or not.
We're gonna break it down with a Cougar Sports Insider
former BYU Great and color analys here on your util
used being radio network. It's gonna be brought to you
by Advanced Windows Advanced Window products. We're getting into, uh,
you know we're transitioning from winter into spring. But right
now you need to get your windows and evaluate if
there's still that cold air seeping in and you have
some inefficiencies in keeping your house warm. Remember, as it
does heat up, it's hard to keep your house nice
and cool if you have windows that are not high quality,
they're not seated, they're not sealed properly. Why not get
your windows evaluated by Advanced Window Products. Jiffifer that has
given his stamp of approval of Advanced Window Products.
Speaker 3: I have as well.
Speaker 4: Get twenty five hundred dollars off when you buy ten
or more windows. If they come in and they evaluate,
they tell you what it needs, what needs to be
done with your windows, You're going to get a significant discount.
Best products in the business, building installing and guarantee and
the best windows in the state.
Speaker 3: And you get that deal. When you call eight.
Speaker 4: O one eight five zero nine one zero zero, let
them know I sent you eight one eight five zero
nine one zero zero Advanced Windows Advanced Windows dot Com.
Let's get out to the hotline. Welcome man, the one
the only former BAU Great the Durantula Mark Durant to
the show What's up?
Speaker 3: Mark, how are you.
Speaker 1: What's up. I'm doing I'm doing pretty good.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: I'm sitting outside in the beautiful sunlight. I'm hanging out
with my pigmy goats. So that you've never had a
guest talk to you on the phone hanging out with
his pigmy goats.
Speaker 4: Actually, it's so funny whenever I see a pigmy goat online. Now,
I think of you surrounded by your pigmy goats, jumping around,
trotting around like you just enjoying life in your pristine
backyard that you've architected for probably years now. You're an
artisan in that backyard. And then you have these unique
and singular, magical animals trotting around, prancing around you.
Speaker 1: That's all true. I wish you could see a picture
of me. I'm just hanging out by fire. I'm getting
smothered by two goats. It's crazy, man. They been a
long winter for them. They don't get a lot of
attention in the winters, so they're all over me.
Speaker 4: Hey man, well, I'm glad you're getting a little bit
of vitamin D out there. Keeping a positive mindset amongst
the highs and lows of the college basketball season. Uh,
but one thing stood out to me about this last game.
I always find it interesting, Like you know, b YU
fans at Lavelle, they'll boo it just about anything. You
don't you don't go forward on fourth down, you do
go forth on fourth down, they're gonna boo you. Uh,
you're not scoring, they're gonna be you. You're not playing
good defense, They're gonna do you. Basketball is a little
bit different, Like I, I don't hear the booze. I've
been around by basketball for about twenty years. I have rarely,
over the last twenty years heard BYU fans at the
Merriat Center.
Speaker 3: Boo the basketball team.
Speaker 4: I mean, how many times can you count how many
times that has happened over the last twenty or so
years at the merrit Center.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty rare.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 3: Can you think of any instances? Can you think of
any instance outside.
Speaker 1: As often as BAU gets beat as bad as they
did last night, which is pretty rare. I'm you know
U V you had a.
Speaker 3: Big win in the Medionah, yeah, yep.
Speaker 1: Uh. There's probably a couple that I could think about,
But I think generally it's probably easier to boo football
just because you got helmets on, it's less personal, you know,
as far away, and yeah, it's kind of personal when
you bow basketball players right there and you can look
in their eyes and see them. But I would say,
I mean I heard a little bit. My thought when
it happened was, you know, they were booing the officials
as they were kind of going off the court at halftimes.
So I'm going to give some maybe some out for
fans and listen, you know, fans pay a lot of money,
and kids nowadays are getting paid, and so maybe it's
a little bit more reasonable too, you know, boo kids.
But I think it's super rare. And if there was
any cause to boo, it's not because they were playing badly,
it's because they weren't really playing and they weren't didn't
seem to be a lot of effort. And I guess
if you're going to boo anything, that's maybe the one
thing you can move out it. You just want guys,
you can I think fans are incredibly forgiving if the
guys are trying and playing hard, and at least in
the first half, it didn't seem like they were, and
it was evident on the scoreboard.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you're right.
Speaker 4: I think for the most part, BYU fans are pretty fair.
The BWI fans will boo when lack of effort is showcase,
not necessarily lack of execution. So I'm I'm right in
lockstep with you there. Well, we've seen the highs, we've
seen the lows. I have a lot of grace through
the team because if somebody of the season any injuries,
my expectations have been lowered for the quota of the
season to be met.
Speaker 3: So but.
Speaker 4: You still see the potential in this team versus an
Iowa State team. One of the best performances, the best
performance of this BOE basketball team without key players, some
of the best players on the roster. So you go
from the highest point to the kind of the lowest
point of the season. Is that an accurate depiction that
was the low point of the season. You have a
high point and a low point of the season. The
contrast the good, the bad, the ugly, the beautiful of
a season.
Speaker 1: I think that's part of it, just to start contrast
from what we saw a couple of days before. If
Iowa State, they I think put together their best forty
minutes with or without Richie I mean, they played really
well and then to follow that up with thirty minutes
of maybe the worst they've played. I mean, they played
pretty bad at Oklahoma State at times, but other than that,
I mean, even in games they lost, they certainly competed
hard and were in the games. Not many blowouts. So
I guess that's the weird thing about that game is
it was so out of the blue and atypical for
this team, and so it puts questions in your mind.
You know, who is this team really is it? Is
it the Iowa State or is it the UCF, And
I think that remains to be seen. Really, I mean,
this is a huge opportunity to tell people that yes,
we do care, we are trying and we and we're
going to fight on the road. Here. This is gonna
be two tough teams against two road, tough win road
games against people you're kind of jostling with in the
middle of the pack in the conference for a single buy.
So it does matter. But more importantly, I think I
think it matters to the team that they show that
they're more like the Iowa State game than the UCF game,
and hopefully, you know, if they can do that, then
I'm certainly have been and will continue to be optimistic
and positive about this team, and even in the postseason,
and when you've got to play like aj and Rob,
you know, anything can happen in any game, and maybe
they get hot and at the right time. But right now,
just coming off that loss, it's hard to be too
positive about anything. But things change very quickly in college sports.
It looked pretty grim before the Iowa State game, then
it looked great. Now it looks grim again, and if
they get a couple of road wins, then it looks
great again. So we'll see how it goes. But I
still believe in this team, and I think if they
do give the effort that I saw in Iowa State,
they have good results. But it certainly wasn't there the
other night last night.
Speaker 4: Any silver linings from the game that we can point
out just to make ourselves feel a little bit better
about a potential thirty point loss that turned into a
much more respectable, respectable thirteen point loss.
Speaker 1: Well, I thought I looked particularly handsome on the Jumbo
Tron when they introduced MATHA. I thought that was a
good moment.
Speaker 3: I agree wholeheartedly.
Speaker 1: I know Ron thinks I'm a handsome man. I can
see him. I do concur Yeah, I love to le
say Coastitch. I think he could be a critical element.
Uh if he's got to hit the he's got to
have someone hit the three. And he hit four of them.
H And he looks to be getting more comfortable just
handling the ball. And I think he's actually a pretty
good defender. And so I liked Coastitch. I like Tyler Morass.
I thought he showed a lot of fire and grit
when he was on the floor. So I mean that
that's important. I mean, it's it's really important. They just
need someone, whether it's Mahailo or MoU or Coastitch to
hit that three. You know, b Yu maybe gave up
some easy threes and you see made them pay. And
teams that played BYU are giving up threes, they're letting
guys certain guys shoot, and so you need to make
them pay. And sometimes the what you have and the
yesterday they did not except for Coastitch, and they were
making threes and Bou was not. And that's not that's
the math doesn't work if that's what's happening in the game.
And so yeah, I mean I guess if I'm going
to go with silver lining, maybe how hard ma Rest
played and the way Kastitch played and they did any
credit miss They didn't give up again. They it was
a thirty five point deficit. They lost by thirteen, so
they didn't just mail it in. They tried to the
end and made it somewhat respectable. But really that's about
all the silver linings I can come up with.
Speaker 3: How do you think this team will finish out the year?
Speaker 4: Do you feel like they'll they'll recoup, you know, and
reinvigorate and maybe get back on the right track. They
have a couple of tough opponents remaining. Anything can happen
in the Big twelve. How do you think they figure
finish out the regular season?
Speaker 1: That's the thing. I then, I just feel like I
have no idea. I mean, they cannot win another game
and that wouldn't surprise me. And they could win and
go to Sweet sixteen and that wouldn't really surprise me.
I mean, I guess it's you know, coming off that
Iowa State game, I was super high on them and
thought they could win out in conference. Now I don't know.
I mean, if this team backs against the wall, they
had a good win at Baylor and they beat Iowa State,
So maybe they need kind of some pressure and some
things on the line and people not believing in them
whatever to kind of really get the best out of them.
Certainly can win those games Cincinnati and Wake Forest. They're
not world beaters, but BA, you certainly can't assume they're
gonna beat anybody at this point. And then I actually
really like Texas Tech at home. I think they'll be
up and ready for that game, no question, because it's
Texas Tech and the top and they're a different team,
and there's certainly a game that I think, BA you
could finish with a really good win against the ranked
team at home going into postseason play. So there's opportunities,
there's they're positives. But you know, again, we're kind of
in the shadow of that game last night where you think,
can can they beat anybody? But the reality is, yeah,
they can just a couple of nights before they beat
the number fourteen of the country, and so, uh, you know,
it's it'll be interesting just to see the mental makeup
of this team, how they respond, you know, uh, you know,
will they play with the needed fire and aggressiveness that
you have to play with in the Big twelve to win.
I think I think they can. I think West Virginia
is a great opportunity Saturday, and hopefully that will give
them some confidence because I think Cincinnati is a better
team and they'll need to play pretty good there to
beat them. And then certainly in my view, they could,
they could finish out three and zero. But but again
it's it's it's all kind of influx at this point.
Speaker 4: Who is this team and where are they going? The
ceiling and the floor and uh, you know, I feel
like Kuda has changed, right. I'm sure you have a
little bit of race for this team with all the season,
any injuries, But how much how much of a leash?
How much grace do you have? Do the does cougarnation
have when so much has been invested in this team,
not only from a player standpoint, but I'd say from
a coaching staff standpoint as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well it's a different world, you know, expectations for
this year's team, particularly we're super high. I mean, there's
different things for me. I'm actually really enjoying just watching
AJ play and Rob's been great. That's pretty special just
to watch those guys win or lose do their thing.
H and to have them at the school. The injuries
obviously been played a big factor, and uh, you know
all there's stepth issues. It's pretty obvious, I think. But again,
I yeah, I recognize all that. I recognize the limitations.
I've been around long enough and my expectations maybe have
been lowered. But that said, I really think this team,
if they play. I mean, it's always weird to me
how hard teams play when they get way behind, Like,
guys play that hard at the beginning and then you
don't get way behind. My attitude was always start a
game and start a half, no matter how much we
were ahead or tied, play like you're down ten. That's
the kind of energy you need to play with all
the time. And I think this team, if they can
find that gear, leave in each other and just really
get after it, I still think they're a really good
team and could do some great things in the next
month and a half. But you know, that's that's a
that's a question, you know, can they do that? What's
this team made of? You know, Richie, Richie Saunders is
a guy you miss his playing, but you also just
missed how hard he plays. And he's a senior, and
if guys are playing hard, you can't justify that when
Richie's on the floor with you, like this is Richie's
he's playing hard, I better play hard. And so I
do think it hurts more, even more than a points.
And you know, player loss is just that leadership and
toughness that Richie brought and maybe he can do that
from you know, on the bench and stuff, but clearly
I think that's just there's there's a lot of issues,
but I think a lot of them can be solved
with just maximum effort and getting after it, and I
think you'll see good things happen.
Speaker 4: Mark Durant, former b YU, great color analyst alongside great rebel.
How's Greg feeling right now? You're more of the optimist
you know there between the duo. I feel like, you know, Greg,
he can be a harsh critic when given the opportunity
to to, you know, to speak up about these things.
Speaker 1: Well, Greg, Greg can be a roller coaster at time,
but that's what makes him fun. And it was such
a drubbing the other night. Yet last night it was
almost comical in a way. It's like, what do you do?
I mean, they're knocking down all these threes and it's
like it's just one of those nights. And so he's
actually pretty upbeat for the most part last night. But
I think, you know, Greg, he's a brilliant guy. I mean,
he really is. And if he wasn't an announcer, he
could be president or I guess he couldn't be president.
He's one of those Canucks. But you know, he could
be a lawyer or doctor. I mean, he's really bright.
He knows the game. He understands all the things we're
talking about, the injuries it is problematic, and the depth
and so, I mean he's a realist. He's a big fan.
So when things don't go well, you know where it's
it on his sleeve a little bit. But I think,
you know, I think he's kind of waiting to see,
like I am, how's this team going to do on
the road. And it certainly likes the guys, believes in
the team, believes we both believe one hundred percent Coach
Young they'll figure it out and get the best out
of his guys. But yeah, I mean it's just kind
of we're just kind of been limbo waiting to see
what what's this what's this team's going to be and
the season's coming to an end here, so you kind
of have to figure out pretty quick.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, Mark, I always appreciate our time together. I
would say, Hey, quota to me is you just got
to win one game in the NCAA Tournament and if
you get if you get to the round thirty two,
I'm like, look, with all the season ending injuries, I'm
okay with that.
Speaker 3: Agree or disagree with.
Speaker 1: A quota, Well, I'd love to see that. But you know,
the NCAA tournament is a large degree on matchups, and
I think Agent is the best player in the country.
So if you've got that, then you always got a chance.
And so I think one certainly would be I think
what I would at least hope for and maybe more.
Who knows what this group?
Speaker 4: Mark, real quick, best way to support you? What you do,
how you do it. I know you are a fantastic
lawyer of the real estate realm.
Speaker 3: Tell us a little bit about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a real estate attorney. I work at allow
firm called Dorsey and Whitney Downtown. It's a great firm.
So if any businesses or whoever has some legal needs,
whether it's pre real estate or anything. Really, give me
a callic and butt you in contact with some great folks.
I spent over ten years at Dorsey Now it's a
great place. They do great work. So that's my plug
for Dorsy and Whitney.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like, what's like a traditional like call in that
you get that in which what services you could provide
to a listener. What's a maybe a go to traditional
problem solve for you.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So let's say the great Ben Krittle has all
these business and assets and say you need to negotiate
and prepare a lease for one of your buildings, or
say there's a big office building that the Ben Cridal
Enterprises wants to purchase. You need to do due diligence
and contracts and make sure everything's done correctly. Those kind
of things are things that are in my wheelhouse. So
a lot of leasing, a lot of property sales and
acquisition and lending work, all the stuff anything that touches
real property. I have my fingers in love it.
Speaker 4: Man Mark Durrant ladies and gentlemen. More than a pontificator
of ball. He does the law as well, the real
estate law. Appreciate you Mark always appreciate our time. Man
always learned something from you. Thanks for hopping on anytime.
Speaker 1: Ben. I love you guys. Anytime I can help you
do a great service to be a you fan. So
thank you.
Speaker 3: Hey, I appreciate you Mark, Mark Durrant, Ladies and gentlemen.
Great segment.
Speaker 4: Great catching up with Mark getting his perspective on all things.
Speaker 3: By you basketball.
Speaker 4: And you know, hopefully you're a little bit more positive.
I mean, he's pretty upbeat about it. You know, he's
got you know, the ceiling and floor maybe even better
than I do right now, or higher than I do
right now. Guys, that segment was a great segment brought
to you by Advanced Windows Advanced Window Products. If you're
looking to maybe upgrade the efficiency of your home, maybe
you're noticing that your windows are are seeping in a
little bit of the cold air right Maybe you're trying
to keep the cool air in for the summer months
that are coming up in the not so distant future.
Contact Advanced Windows, Advanced Window Products Advanced Windows dot Com.
Set up an appointment, get a quote. They're gonna take
care of you know, if sands or butts about it.
Let them earn your business. Jim erfore, Dad is on
board with us.
Speaker 3: Now. We've been on board with Advanced Windows for a
long time.
Speaker 4: They've replaced a couple of my windows because they have
a spec home in Spec Holmes. As you know, they
just built as well as they need to be, and
so wanting to get a few windows replaced in order
to really make it uh pristine and efficient. So contact
them to day you get twenty five hundred dollars off
ten more windows. Twenty five hundred dollars off ten more windows.
It's a fantastic deal. H call them today. Eight O
one A five zero nine one zero zero. That's eight
one eight five zero nine one zero zero. That's Advanced Windows.
Advanced Windows dot com. Coming up next, AJ debatsa Alexi
Costik postgame commentary. Don't miss it is AJ willing to
take the torch and lead in U in the absence
of guys like Ritchie, the guys that play with their
hair on fire. Can AJ be that guy? Can he
lift others