WEBVTT 1 00:00:24.280 --> 00:00:29.160 Welcome back, midnight viewers to Star Trek Fast. I'm follow 2 00:00:29.239 --> 00:00:35.840 alone with me as always, navigating the spaceways. Mister hbhbi 3 00:00:35.880 --> 00:00:37.479 you do, it's the spaceways. 4 00:00:37.880 --> 00:00:40.280 I'm doing good, follow blone, Thanks for having me again. 5 00:00:40.520 --> 00:00:41.399 Let's get into it. 6 00:00:41.520 --> 00:00:44.880 Oh man, we're here. We are number three. We're here 7 00:00:44.880 --> 00:00:48.840 to prove whether or not the fucking numerical coding with 8 00:00:48.960 --> 00:00:51.600 the Star Trek movies is true or not. Are the 9 00:00:51.679 --> 00:00:55.200 even movies good? Are the odd numbers bad? We're gonna 10 00:00:55.200 --> 00:00:57.320 find out because we're talking about Star Trek three, the 11 00:00:57.479 --> 00:00:58.439 search for spot. 12 00:01:00.320 --> 00:01:16.159 Now join the search to the final frontier of space adventure. 13 00:01:19.439 --> 00:01:25.480 These are the continuing voyages of the Starship Enterprise, her 14 00:01:25.519 --> 00:01:30.840 ongoing mission to explore strange new worlds, to seek out 15 00:01:31.040 --> 00:01:37.599 new life forms and new civilizations, to vocally go where 16 00:01:37.719 --> 00:01:40.719 no man has gone before. 17 00:01:42.000 --> 00:01:45.079 Admiral James T. Kirk and the crew of the Enterprise 18 00:01:45.280 --> 00:01:49.120 take off on their greatest mission, beyond anything they have 19 00:01:49.200 --> 00:01:50.280 ever accomplished before. 20 00:01:51.359 --> 00:01:53.439 Kurt, you do this, You'll never sit in the Captain's 21 00:01:53.519 --> 00:01:54.000 chair again. 22 00:01:54.840 --> 00:01:58.400 For the one thing that really matters, to find their friends. 23 00:01:59.519 --> 00:02:02.840 Why did you leave him on Genesis Stock trusted you 24 00:02:03.359 --> 00:02:07.200 an obviously to the planet man created a savage world 25 00:02:07.400 --> 00:02:08.680 that could destroy them all. 26 00:02:12.199 --> 00:02:13.400 Environment Scott. 27 00:02:17.520 --> 00:02:21.759 The needs of the many ways the. 28 00:02:21.759 --> 00:02:26.080 Shoe join the search. Since the overwhelming power of an 29 00:02:26.080 --> 00:02:28.639 adventure that troubles anything that has drawn. 30 00:02:28.479 --> 00:02:36.680 Before, this entire crew seems on the edge of obsessive 31 00:02:36.680 --> 00:02:42.800 behavior concerning mister Spock, Sir Security reports the door to 32 00:02:42.840 --> 00:02:44.319 Spox quarters has been forced. 33 00:02:46.719 --> 00:02:51.360 In Star Trek three, The Search for Spock. 34 00:03:00.719 --> 00:03:04.280 Star Trek three, The Search per Spock, directed by Leonard Namoy, 35 00:03:04.719 --> 00:03:07.919 written by Harve Bennett, and based on Star Trek by 36 00:03:08.000 --> 00:03:12.000 Gene Rodberry. This one stars William Shatner Deforced, Kelly James 37 00:03:12.039 --> 00:03:16.240 doing George ta Kay, Walter Kinig, Michelle Nichols, Merritt Buntrick, 38 00:03:16.520 --> 00:03:21.840 Robin Curtis, and Christopher Lloyd as Crewe. 39 00:03:23.759 --> 00:03:27.479 Yeah, this is a lover hated situation. There's nobody. There's 40 00:03:27.520 --> 00:03:30.240 no halfway measure on this. You either love him in 41 00:03:30.319 --> 00:03:32.240 this or you can't stand him. 42 00:03:32.360 --> 00:03:36.800 There are detractors, Oh yeah, at the time. Certainly at 43 00:03:36.800 --> 00:03:41.479 the time. Certainly are there detractors now though after Doc 44 00:03:41.560 --> 00:03:44.960 Brown and decades of adoration. 45 00:03:45.280 --> 00:03:47.479 Judge Doom certainly is probably. 46 00:03:47.199 --> 00:03:50.159 People don't know him as Reverend Jimmy Kotowski anymore. If 47 00:03:50.240 --> 00:03:52.159 you say Christopher Lloyd, they think Doc Brown. 48 00:03:52.360 --> 00:03:54.560 Yeah, I think that's fair, and I think it's a 49 00:03:54.599 --> 00:03:59.039 credit to him that Doc Brown is nothing like Reverend Jim. 50 00:03:59.199 --> 00:04:02.879 He has rained, which maybe wasn't immediately apparent to see 51 00:04:02.960 --> 00:04:05.879 him as Reverend Jim all those years. But yeah, I 52 00:04:05.919 --> 00:04:09.360 can't say whether he has detractors in modern day. But 53 00:04:10.280 --> 00:04:12.960 even now I have to admit watching it as a 54 00:04:13.000 --> 00:04:15.520 fan of Christopher Lloyd, it took me a minute or 55 00:04:15.520 --> 00:04:19.519 two to settle back into those familiar rhythms. By the way, 56 00:04:20.160 --> 00:04:22.439 it has to be noted that this is Leonard Nimoy's 57 00:04:22.439 --> 00:04:24.040 directorial debut. 58 00:04:24.439 --> 00:04:26.519 That is true. He did direct an episode of t J. 59 00:04:26.639 --> 00:04:31.600 Hooker with his old buddy, But yeah, this was a stipulation. 60 00:04:32.000 --> 00:04:36.319 He obviously Spock was killed in Star Trek two. Nimoy 61 00:04:36.399 --> 00:04:39.199 had all this leverage that he didn't have previously, and 62 00:04:39.240 --> 00:04:41.279 that was his condition for coming back a spot and 63 00:04:41.360 --> 00:04:44.879 he directed, and sure enough they did. Although I think 64 00:04:44.920 --> 00:04:47.759 there was a lot of medaling, studio medaling in this 65 00:04:47.800 --> 00:04:50.959 picture that maybe he got past and four when we 66 00:04:51.000 --> 00:04:51.639 talk about that. 67 00:04:52.000 --> 00:04:56.839 But yeah, I'll say this, he unbeknownst to the people 68 00:04:56.839 --> 00:05:01.439 at Paramount Michael Eisner at all, Nimoi during the filming 69 00:05:01.600 --> 00:05:05.439 of Wrath of Khan began very much. He began to 70 00:05:05.480 --> 00:05:07.800 really regret the fact that he was going to die. 71 00:05:07.879 --> 00:05:10.040 He realized that this was fun and it was going 72 00:05:10.079 --> 00:05:11.920 to be a good movie, and they had a chance 73 00:05:11.959 --> 00:05:14.600 at not being Star Trek the motion picture, that this 74 00:05:14.720 --> 00:05:17.519 might not be the final voyage of the Starship Enterprise. 75 00:05:17.560 --> 00:05:19.079 They might be going on a whole lot more. If 76 00:05:19.079 --> 00:05:21.000 they're going to be like this, He'd be a fool 77 00:05:21.079 --> 00:05:24.480 not to be a board. So really he wanted to 78 00:05:24.519 --> 00:05:28.319 be there. And then they came begging and he said, 79 00:05:28.399 --> 00:05:29.800 I'll do it if I direct him, which is a 80 00:05:29.800 --> 00:05:35.360 great move. And now I don't think I appreciated until 81 00:05:35.439 --> 00:05:39.920 now rewatching the film how well directed the film actually is. 82 00:05:41.279 --> 00:05:44.319 He next to Nicholas Meyer, who I think is still 83 00:05:44.360 --> 00:05:48.560 the gold standard for the original series Star Trek movies. 84 00:05:48.959 --> 00:05:52.680 He's I mean, Nimoy's track record speaks for itself beyond 85 00:05:52.759 --> 00:05:55.079 Star Trek. I mean, obviously he did Little, Three Men 86 00:05:55.120 --> 00:05:57.560 and a Baby. He did a bunch of movies in 87 00:05:57.600 --> 00:06:01.240 the eighties. He was an in demand and he's a 88 00:06:01.360 --> 00:06:05.399 very good director and excuse me, and like you, I 89 00:06:05.439 --> 00:06:09.079 didn't appreciate that until watching it more recently and going, 90 00:06:09.199 --> 00:06:13.120 you know what this actually it wasn't as terrible as 91 00:06:13.120 --> 00:06:15.360 I'm led to believe by the rule of three with 92 00:06:15.439 --> 00:06:16.319 Star Trek movie. 93 00:06:17.439 --> 00:06:21.720 So okay. So basically Star Trek two. The day after 94 00:06:21.800 --> 00:06:25.240 Star Trek two is the day after Star Trek two premieres. 95 00:06:25.839 --> 00:06:29.079 Harve Bennet get's a call from Paramount saying give us 96 00:06:29.199 --> 00:06:32.439 Star Trek three, so he begins immediately writing the script. 97 00:06:32.439 --> 00:06:34.319 He does this one all on his own, although he 98 00:06:34.319 --> 00:06:36.560 does it in conjunction with Leonard Nimoy because he already 99 00:06:36.560 --> 00:06:38.519 knows Nimoy wants to direct it, so it's gonna be 100 00:06:38.600 --> 00:06:41.360 him shaping the story. So it's as much Nimoy's screenplay 101 00:06:41.360 --> 00:06:43.680 as it is Harve Bennett's, even though Bennett does the 102 00:06:43.759 --> 00:06:47.600 type in and the look. The movie's called The Search 103 00:06:47.639 --> 00:06:49.360 for Spock. There was no way they weren't ever going 104 00:06:49.399 --> 00:06:51.600 to not deal with the fact that they have to 105 00:06:51.639 --> 00:06:54.399 bring Spock back. They had not front loaded it, but 106 00:06:54.480 --> 00:06:57.160 like backloaded it at the end of that movie with 107 00:06:57.240 --> 00:07:02.360 the quick little remember McCoy, here's a pinch for you. 108 00:07:03.160 --> 00:07:05.560 So the script was always going to have to deal 109 00:07:05.639 --> 00:07:07.480 with that, and it was always going to have to 110 00:07:07.519 --> 00:07:12.279 deal with the Genesis project. And I don't know, what 111 00:07:12.319 --> 00:07:14.639 do you think of the story that they've come up 112 00:07:14.680 --> 00:07:16.319 with here. Do you think that this is the story 113 00:07:16.360 --> 00:07:18.879 we needed as a follow up to the triumph that 114 00:07:18.959 --> 00:07:20.399 was Star Trek to the Wrath of Khan? 115 00:07:21.439 --> 00:07:24.879 No? I think for me the story is my least 116 00:07:24.920 --> 00:07:28.839 favorite aspect of this movie because as we're going to 117 00:07:28.920 --> 00:07:32.000 get into, not a lot happens, And to be honest, 118 00:07:32.000 --> 00:07:34.800 there's not even a lot of searching for Spock. They 119 00:07:34.839 --> 00:07:38.480 find Spock pretty quickly as the movie goes on, so 120 00:07:38.600 --> 00:07:42.240 that's a bit of a misnomer. I just think the 121 00:07:42.480 --> 00:07:46.279 sort of the after effects of Genesis and the repercussions 122 00:07:46.319 --> 00:07:49.680 of it, that's fine. It just felt like very little 123 00:07:49.720 --> 00:07:51.800 to hang a story on. It just feels like not 124 00:07:51.879 --> 00:07:55.839 a lot happens story wise in this They probably could 125 00:07:55.879 --> 00:07:57.959 have come up with something a little more interesting and 126 00:07:58.000 --> 00:08:01.480 maybe a little more expand this just feels like a 127 00:08:01.639 --> 00:08:06.879 very This almost feels like an actual TV an expanded 128 00:08:07.000 --> 00:08:10.680 version of the TV show. Very like a lot spread 129 00:08:10.680 --> 00:08:12.240 out over an hour and a half. It could have 130 00:08:12.279 --> 00:08:15.319 been a half hour and out to an hour's worth 131 00:08:15.319 --> 00:08:16.920 of material to be spread out. 132 00:08:17.439 --> 00:08:23.199 The plot is very amorphous, there's nothing really driving it. 133 00:08:23.199 --> 00:08:26.920 It's all story, no plot. Basically, the Genesis planet is 134 00:08:26.959 --> 00:08:30.639 off limits. Spock's body is there. We find out Spock's 135 00:08:30.720 --> 00:08:33.240 consciousness that lives on in McCoy and that it needs 136 00:08:33.240 --> 00:08:35.519 to go back into Spock's body. So they have to 137 00:08:35.519 --> 00:08:38.120 get spos body back from Genesis, but the Federation doesn't 138 00:08:38.120 --> 00:08:40.200 want them going, and the Klingons are on their way 139 00:08:40.200 --> 00:08:43.120 to Genesis because they hear it's a weapon worth having. 140 00:08:43.320 --> 00:08:46.480 That's the whole movie, and it's just a slow progression 141 00:08:46.720 --> 00:08:49.519 to put those pieces into place and then getting Spock 142 00:08:49.600 --> 00:08:50.200 back the end. 143 00:08:50.879 --> 00:08:54.480 Just the fact that the Klingons are on the search 144 00:08:54.559 --> 00:08:57.720 for Genesis being this ultimate weapon. We just saw that 145 00:08:58.080 --> 00:09:01.679 in Star Trek two. That was part of Khan's plan 146 00:09:01.879 --> 00:09:04.919 is to seize the Genesis device so he would have 147 00:09:05.000 --> 00:09:07.519 all of this power and be this force to be 148 00:09:07.559 --> 00:09:11.360 reckoned with. I just didn't feel like it felt like 149 00:09:11.519 --> 00:09:15.080 a redo of a very similar plot line from part two. 150 00:09:15.759 --> 00:09:19.080 Yeah, without the sort of half, without the backstory, like 151 00:09:19.240 --> 00:09:21.720 the reason the con story, as you said, like it 152 00:09:21.759 --> 00:09:24.360 does mirror this a lot, like the way the dynamics 153 00:09:24.399 --> 00:09:29.639 play out between Kirk and Kruge. But Kirk and Khan 154 00:09:29.799 --> 00:09:33.879 had fucking history and really deep history, and there are 155 00:09:33.960 --> 00:09:36.519 there were genuine beefs there. I don't know what the 156 00:09:36.559 --> 00:09:40.159 Klingon's motivation is here. He's just we don't know anything 157 00:09:40.200 --> 00:09:43.000 about the Klons. We don't know his place within the 158 00:09:43.159 --> 00:09:46.519 hierarchy of the Klingon Empire. So I don't know if 159 00:09:46.519 --> 00:09:49.600 this is a rogue agent from the Klingon Empire. I 160 00:09:49.600 --> 00:09:53.039 don't know if he's like they're like undercovered division. So 161 00:09:53.159 --> 00:09:55.480 I don't know what he wants from Genesis to begin with, 162 00:09:55.559 --> 00:09:58.039 other than it's a big destructive thing. And then Harve 163 00:09:58.039 --> 00:10:02.559 Bennett can't think beyond what directly in front of him politically, 164 00:10:02.720 --> 00:10:05.600 and he's let's make this about the Soviet Union versus America. 165 00:10:05.679 --> 00:10:07.799 You mean, like every other piece of entertainment at the time, 166 00:10:07.879 --> 00:10:08.799 have great idea. 167 00:10:09.519 --> 00:10:13.440 Yeah, there just wasn't a lot of meat behind the story. 168 00:10:13.559 --> 00:10:16.440 It just felt very thin to me. Having said that, though, 169 00:10:17.120 --> 00:10:21.639 I did find myself really enjoying it, and that's almost 170 00:10:21.679 --> 00:10:25.360 solely due to the cast members themselves and the interactions 171 00:10:25.399 --> 00:10:27.600 and the direction. I thought it was for a first time. 172 00:10:27.639 --> 00:10:29.200 I thought he did an excellent job. 173 00:10:29.720 --> 00:10:33.799 Look, it is a feature film of a television episode. 174 00:10:33.879 --> 00:10:36.399 Like you said, there's not a whole lot plot wise, 175 00:10:36.480 --> 00:10:39.320 it's nothing to get excited about. But it is a 176 00:10:39.399 --> 00:10:41.799 movie and it works as a film. It's a very 177 00:10:41.840 --> 00:10:45.039 well made film, and an exciting one at that. And 178 00:10:45.919 --> 00:10:49.519 I always liked this movie. I never agreed with the 179 00:10:49.559 --> 00:10:51.879 odd numbers star treks are bad because I was like, 180 00:10:51.919 --> 00:10:54.240 I don't know, man like that. There was a trilogy there, 181 00:10:54.399 --> 00:10:57.679 the Genesis trilogy they call it now, which is Wrath 182 00:10:57.759 --> 00:11:02.000 of Khan, Search for Spock, and Voyage Home. I thought 183 00:11:02.039 --> 00:11:06.480 those three movies all work on their own charms. But 184 00:11:06.639 --> 00:11:09.159 I do like the movie even better now having rewatched 185 00:11:09.200 --> 00:11:10.879 it and knowing a little bit more about the behind 186 00:11:10.919 --> 00:11:12.840 the scenes and the lore and everything. But just on 187 00:11:13.519 --> 00:11:15.879 the surface level watching the movie, I think it really works. 188 00:11:16.320 --> 00:11:20.000 Yeah, I totally agree. And I was surprised because again 189 00:11:20.080 --> 00:11:22.159 I had seen it. I'd seen it a lot when 190 00:11:22.200 --> 00:11:25.960 it was on cable, but mostly piecemeal. I can't say 191 00:11:26.000 --> 00:11:29.200 that I aside from once maybe sitting down to watch 192 00:11:29.200 --> 00:11:31.960 the whole movie, so in a sense, I was revisiting 193 00:11:32.000 --> 00:11:34.480 it for the first time in a long time, and 194 00:11:35.120 --> 00:11:38.720 the reputation will always precede it. This like you said 195 00:11:38.720 --> 00:11:42.440 this idea that all the odd number star Trek movies 196 00:11:42.440 --> 00:11:45.799 are terrible, that's not really the case here. Is it 197 00:11:45.840 --> 00:11:49.200 as strong as some of the better offerings. No, it's 198 00:11:49.200 --> 00:11:53.559 not gonna it compares unfavorably to Wrath of Khan or 199 00:11:54.120 --> 00:11:56.080 I would say first contact if we're talking about the 200 00:11:56.240 --> 00:11:59.840 next gen cast. But that doesn't mean this movie doesn't 201 00:11:59.879 --> 00:12:03.159 have its own merits, and it tells and the story 202 00:12:03.240 --> 00:12:07.559 is told in an interesting way, in a visually appealing way, 203 00:12:07.879 --> 00:12:10.200 even if the story itself was let down for me. 204 00:12:10.639 --> 00:12:13.080 Yeah, overall, it's I don't know, it's anyway, Let's get 205 00:12:13.120 --> 00:12:16.480 into the fucking plot. Nolly, what's this movie about? HB 206 00:12:17.360 --> 00:12:22.720 Wait before we get there. Yeah, okay, here's one thing 207 00:12:22.759 --> 00:12:25.559 that I wish I had been not on the set for. 208 00:12:25.759 --> 00:12:28.279 I wish I had been in pre production meetings for 209 00:12:28.759 --> 00:12:34.200 anytime Leonard Nimoy suggested a television actor in a major role. 210 00:12:34.519 --> 00:12:38.000 To watch the producer fumble around and try to tell 211 00:12:38.080 --> 00:12:40.679 Leonard Nimoy that they don't want a TV actor in 212 00:12:40.720 --> 00:12:43.120 their big budget movie, because I imagine it would be 213 00:12:43.159 --> 00:12:46.600 like we don't want this fucking TV Oh hey Leonard, Yeah, 214 00:12:46.720 --> 00:12:50.840 Leonard who railed against being typecast so much they wrote 215 00:12:50.840 --> 00:12:55.000 a fucking book about it. The fact that there were 216 00:12:55.120 --> 00:12:58.000 conversations where and if you listen to the commentary you 217 00:12:58.039 --> 00:13:02.240 can hear leonardymoight gleefully recall list where they said Christopher 218 00:13:02.320 --> 00:13:05.480 Lloyd is basically just this guy from a sitcom on TV, 219 00:13:05.759 --> 00:13:07.600 and he was like, and they're like, okay, I will 220 00:13:07.679 --> 00:13:11.120 definitely consider it. And then the same later where James 221 00:13:11.120 --> 00:13:14.159 Sicking as the Captain of the Excelsior. He was on 222 00:13:14.360 --> 00:13:17.039 Hill Street Blues. That was all anyone knew him from. 223 00:13:17.080 --> 00:13:19.399 He was famous for that show, and that was the 224 00:13:19.399 --> 00:13:22.000 same reaction, Do you really wanted stunt cast as TV 225 00:13:22.120 --> 00:13:24.360 guy in our big movie? And he was like, yep, 226 00:13:24.399 --> 00:13:24.919 I sure do. 227 00:13:25.759 --> 00:13:28.720 Yeah. There's a lot of interesting little bit parts that 228 00:13:28.759 --> 00:13:34.000 are cast here. Obviously beyond Christopher Lloyd as the Klingon commander, 229 00:13:34.519 --> 00:13:39.039 his second in command is played by John Laracat, which 230 00:13:39.279 --> 00:13:43.679 still blows my mind, even almost more so than Christopher Lloyd, 231 00:13:43.720 --> 00:13:47.759 because this is Dan Fielding from Nightcourt. This is not 232 00:13:48.240 --> 00:13:50.960 someone you would expect to be playing a and I think, 233 00:13:51.039 --> 00:13:55.840 actually I read somewhere that Nimoy dubbed him the thoughtful klingon. 234 00:13:56.559 --> 00:13:58.159 He is a good description. 235 00:13:57.840 --> 00:14:01.080 Because he really is, absolutely is and you know it's funny. 236 00:14:01.360 --> 00:14:06.919 So he's Christopher Lloyd's first first officer, and over on 237 00:14:07.000 --> 00:14:11.639 the Excelsior, his first officer is Mikhail Ferrer, like also 238 00:14:11.759 --> 00:14:15.639 a professional prick and the just. 239 00:14:15.639 --> 00:14:19.960 Another in a line of RoboCop actors who were in 240 00:14:20.080 --> 00:14:22.440 Star Trek movies, because we're going to see Peter Weller 241 00:14:22.919 --> 00:14:26.480 was in it. Obviously, what's his name? Kurtwood Smith is 242 00:14:26.519 --> 00:14:28.840 going to be in Star Trek six. 243 00:14:28.879 --> 00:14:30.840 Right, he's the president of the Federation. 244 00:14:31.519 --> 00:14:34.919 He is. One interesting piece of trivia that I found 245 00:14:34.960 --> 00:14:39.120 related to the casting of Krug is and I'm forgive 246 00:14:39.120 --> 00:14:41.320 me if you've got this queue up bottom alone. But 247 00:14:41.799 --> 00:14:46.120 apparently Neimoy's original choice for krug was Edward James Almost. 248 00:14:47.840 --> 00:14:50.799 I never knew this. I just found this out, but 249 00:14:51.440 --> 00:14:55.360 Harve Bennett preferred Christopher Lloyd in the role then to 250 00:14:55.480 --> 00:14:59.399 make it more interesting. Beyond that, Almost was also later 251 00:14:59.519 --> 00:15:03.759 offered role of Jean Luke Picard in the Next Generation, 252 00:15:04.519 --> 00:15:07.600 but he turned it down. He wanted to focus on 253 00:15:08.080 --> 00:15:13.159 stage and film. Can you imagine how different the next 254 00:15:13.200 --> 00:15:16.519 generation would be. It would be Paul Stewart. 255 00:15:16.799 --> 00:15:19.720 You know what, They would have ended up sticking to 256 00:15:19.840 --> 00:15:24.600 Rodenderry's initial dictum that Picard never leaves the ship. That's 257 00:15:24.600 --> 00:15:27.320 what the first officer is for. And almost would have 258 00:15:27.360 --> 00:15:30.120 stuck to that, and you would have known the bridge 259 00:15:30.240 --> 00:15:32.879 was a serious place. It would not have been a 260 00:15:32.919 --> 00:15:33.639 fun loving. 261 00:15:34.120 --> 00:15:38.159 Yeah, no, not at all. I just that it's fascinating 262 00:15:38.279 --> 00:15:42.240 enough to consider Edward James almost as a Klingon commander. 263 00:15:43.600 --> 00:15:46.080 He would have been really good in it. But just 264 00:15:46.200 --> 00:15:48.440 the icing on the cake was the fact that he 265 00:15:48.480 --> 00:15:51.200 could have been Picard in the next generation. That blew 266 00:15:51.279 --> 00:15:51.720 my mind. 267 00:15:52.159 --> 00:15:53.919 He would not have worked as Picard, he would have 268 00:15:53.960 --> 00:15:56.960 worked as Card. He would have worked in a lot 269 00:15:57.000 --> 00:15:58.200 of villain roles. 270 00:15:57.919 --> 00:16:01.000 Here he would have And I wish they had cast. 271 00:16:00.919 --> 00:16:04.320 Him as a Romulan, actually not a Vulcan, because the 272 00:16:04.399 --> 00:16:06.039 Romulans are really scary. 273 00:16:06.639 --> 00:16:10.000 This is not to say that he almost should only 274 00:16:10.039 --> 00:16:12.759 be playing villainous roles, because obviously he played hi Ma 275 00:16:12.919 --> 00:16:16.519 Escalante and that that Standing Deliver movie, and he was 276 00:16:16.639 --> 00:16:19.080 Gaff and playe Runner, and he was great in all 277 00:16:19.120 --> 00:16:21.879 of these things. And he was in Miami Vice for years. 278 00:16:22.000 --> 00:16:23.039 Wasn't he one of the cops. 279 00:16:22.840 --> 00:16:24.960 In my Oh yeah, it was the captain. 280 00:16:25.879 --> 00:16:26.600 Was he the captain? 281 00:16:27.080 --> 00:16:29.200 Yeah, I told you there's that in that like that. 282 00:16:29.240 --> 00:16:31.559 He signed on to that with Michael Mann, and the 283 00:16:31.639 --> 00:16:33.480 idea was that no matter what, he could just do 284 00:16:33.519 --> 00:16:34.360 whatever he wanted. 285 00:16:34.840 --> 00:16:37.159 Oh yeah, yeah. He ordered somebody to come back again. 286 00:16:37.279 --> 00:16:40.960 Don Johnson breezed into his office and in character, he said, 287 00:16:41.039 --> 00:16:43.720 go back out and close that door and knock. And 288 00:16:43.840 --> 00:16:45.720 Don Johnson in character had to go do it. 289 00:16:48.440 --> 00:16:50.720 He's a bad ask, no question, but he would not know. 290 00:16:50.919 --> 00:16:52.120 That would not have been a good pick card. 291 00:16:52.200 --> 00:16:54.240 You can see that as a power move. But at 292 00:16:54.279 --> 00:16:57.679 the same time, I think Captain Castillo would have done that. 293 00:16:58.200 --> 00:17:02.559 Sure, he's he He is one of those method actors 294 00:17:02.919 --> 00:17:05.759 who really likes to get into it and become the character. 295 00:17:05.799 --> 00:17:09.599 And I respect that. All right, So we're going to 296 00:17:09.680 --> 00:17:12.279 talk about what the plot of this movie is effectively, 297 00:17:12.839 --> 00:17:17.160 so it takes it actually picks up exactly where Star 298 00:17:17.200 --> 00:17:19.480 Trek two left off, where Spock is dead. 299 00:17:19.680 --> 00:17:21.720 We've got a little time, we got a little time left. 300 00:17:21.759 --> 00:17:24.839 The ship has been repaired, people have gotten off the 301 00:17:24.880 --> 00:17:26.880 ship and are on different missions now. So this is 302 00:17:26.920 --> 00:17:27.880 a couple of months later. 303 00:17:27.960 --> 00:17:30.640 Let's say that's true, but it's pretty close. 304 00:17:30.880 --> 00:17:33.160 So now, what can I just and let me speak 305 00:17:33.200 --> 00:17:36.000 to this because I've heard a lot. I've read a 306 00:17:36.039 --> 00:17:38.000 lot of reviews, and I've heard a lot of reviews 307 00:17:38.279 --> 00:17:42.119 about this movie. And one of the gripes that people 308 00:17:42.160 --> 00:17:46.400 have is that the tone from the last movies ending 309 00:17:46.480 --> 00:17:50.759 to this movie's beginning is wildly off, because we get 310 00:17:50.759 --> 00:17:54.240 a hopeful Kirk at the end, and here he's desponded. 311 00:17:54.279 --> 00:17:55.799 And this is the first time we get a straight 312 00:17:55.880 --> 00:17:58.559 voice over in any of the Star Trek movies actually 313 00:17:58.960 --> 00:18:01.920 of him, his personal log as it were. And I 314 00:18:01.960 --> 00:18:08.680 would say maybe anyone who is criticizing this should live 315 00:18:08.759 --> 00:18:11.799 for a few months after somebody dies and see how 316 00:18:11.839 --> 00:18:14.519 fucking jubilant and hopeful you are all the time. What 317 00:18:14.680 --> 00:18:16.279 the fuck kind of a criticism is that? 318 00:18:17.079 --> 00:18:20.240 Yeah, no, warning does not take place in a straight line. 319 00:18:20.279 --> 00:18:22.519 It's not like he's going to be hopeful and then 320 00:18:22.559 --> 00:18:25.880 that's going to continue on it's peaks and valleys. I 321 00:18:25.920 --> 00:18:29.799 don't think that's not I don't think that's unnatural at 322 00:18:29.799 --> 00:18:31.880 all that he would seem hopeful at the end of 323 00:18:31.920 --> 00:18:34.599 two but then in three he's back to being he's 324 00:18:34.640 --> 00:18:39.079 been without his effectively his best friend and somebody who 325 00:18:39.119 --> 00:18:41.960 was integral to the operation of this of the Enterprise, 326 00:18:42.359 --> 00:18:44.119 So of course he's going to be bummed about it, 327 00:18:44.200 --> 00:18:47.039 for lack of a better word, but yeah, he's they're 328 00:18:47.079 --> 00:18:50.799 heading back to Earth for what they believe is going 329 00:18:50.839 --> 00:18:52.799 to be a refit of the Enterprise. But the Enterprise 330 00:18:52.880 --> 00:18:54.400 is still damaged. 331 00:18:54.480 --> 00:18:59.799 It's been repaired, plates welded over at the scorch marks 332 00:19:00.000 --> 00:19:02.319 on the side closely, like they got to some space 333 00:19:02.400 --> 00:19:04.319 doc and they're just like, I'll just patch it up 334 00:19:04.319 --> 00:19:05.519 and fucking send it on its way. 335 00:19:06.000 --> 00:19:08.880 Yeah, even on the bridge there's like all these there's 336 00:19:08.920 --> 00:19:13.200 still scorches all around the bridge from when KHN attacked 337 00:19:13.200 --> 00:19:15.519 them in the second one. So they're heading back. They're 338 00:19:15.519 --> 00:19:19.400 going back to Earth, but there's something odd happens on 339 00:19:19.440 --> 00:19:22.279 the way where they get a report that there's someone 340 00:19:22.359 --> 00:19:28.200 in Spock's quarters. Spock's quarters were sealed after he died, 341 00:19:28.839 --> 00:19:30.759 and they don't know what's going on. So Kirk decides 342 00:19:30.799 --> 00:19:32.920 to go down personally and figure out what's happening, and 343 00:19:33.000 --> 00:19:36.000 he discovers he walks in there, it's a very dark. 344 00:19:36.319 --> 00:19:38.359 He hears a voice. He hears Spock come out of 345 00:19:38.400 --> 00:19:42.640 the shadows saying, Jim, why did you leave me? You 346 00:19:42.759 --> 00:19:45.720 need to climb the steps to Mount Celia and help me. 347 00:19:46.319 --> 00:19:49.279 And he goes and grabs this person in the shadows 348 00:19:49.319 --> 00:19:53.519 and it's McCoy, and it seems like McCoy's not all there. 349 00:19:53.640 --> 00:19:56.079 He's speaking effectively like Spock. 350 00:19:56.960 --> 00:19:59.279 Now, I got chills when I saw this in the theater. 351 00:19:59.319 --> 00:20:03.000 I can say it, oh, because it's very effective, because they. 352 00:20:02.880 --> 00:20:06.480 Have When you heard voice, I was just like, yeah, it's. 353 00:20:06.400 --> 00:20:08.920 N moy's voice. Because this was Look. I don't know 354 00:20:08.960 --> 00:20:12.519 that we ever thought that Spock would never come back, 355 00:20:12.960 --> 00:20:15.759 but there's something about the finality of seeing him die 356 00:20:16.240 --> 00:20:19.720 in part two and then to hear his voice croaking 357 00:20:19.799 --> 00:20:24.319 out of the shadows begging for help. It's nimoy. It's 358 00:20:24.400 --> 00:20:28.440 chill inducing. It's it really is effective. But we know, 359 00:20:29.119 --> 00:20:32.839 having watched too and know the whole remember bit where and. 360 00:20:32.839 --> 00:20:36.920 How do you remember that? Because Harve Bennett, television producer 361 00:20:37.359 --> 00:20:40.960 upgraded to feature films, decides how do we remind the 362 00:20:41.000 --> 00:20:43.920 audience what happened to the last movie I know previously 363 00:20:44.200 --> 00:20:46.559 on Star Trek and they give us a they give 364 00:20:46.640 --> 00:20:49.079 us basically just a replay of the last scene between 365 00:20:49.160 --> 00:20:52.559 Kirk and Spock and then the remember with Macay. 366 00:20:52.680 --> 00:20:55.759 Yeah, so it's fresh in your mind now as a viewer. Okay, 367 00:20:55.799 --> 00:20:58.720 I remember now he mind melded and that left the 368 00:20:58.799 --> 00:21:01.599 door open for him to come back, but they don't 369 00:21:01.640 --> 00:21:03.359 make much of it at this point. They want to 370 00:21:03.359 --> 00:21:07.400 get back to Earth. Meanwhile, there is a Klingon ship 371 00:21:07.680 --> 00:21:11.079 captained by this guy Krug, who is making a deal 372 00:21:11.160 --> 00:21:14.519 with some kind of a mercenary to get data related 373 00:21:14.559 --> 00:21:15.759 to the Genesis device. 374 00:21:16.160 --> 00:21:19.599 Not some kind of a mercenary. He's dealing with his agent, 375 00:21:19.640 --> 00:21:22.880 who is also his lover, who has been out trying 376 00:21:22.960 --> 00:21:26.519 to find information about the She's on a mercenary ship. 377 00:21:26.759 --> 00:21:29.119 That's the ship itself is a mercenary ship, but she 378 00:21:29.200 --> 00:21:32.119 is a Klingon also, Yeah, and his lover you're. 379 00:21:32.200 --> 00:21:34.720 All Chris is her name, Sir Waal Chris. 380 00:21:34.920 --> 00:21:38.480 So they get into this thing where he uncloaks. They 381 00:21:38.519 --> 00:21:42.920 transmit the Genesis data, but the woman makes the mistake 382 00:21:43.000 --> 00:21:46.599 of saying to Krug over the calm link, I've seen 383 00:21:46.640 --> 00:21:49.400 the data. I think you'll find it very interesting. I 384 00:21:49.480 --> 00:21:52.599 love this part. Krug says, Oh, you've seen it and 385 00:21:52.640 --> 00:21:56.279 she says yeah, and he says, that's very unfortunate. Now 386 00:21:56.319 --> 00:21:59.359 you know that it's curtains and she knows it too. 387 00:21:59.480 --> 00:22:03.559 She knows that she's He has to tie up all 388 00:22:03.559 --> 00:22:07.160 the loose ends. Krug Kill destroys the ship with his 389 00:22:07.680 --> 00:22:12.079 lover on board. That's how much of a ruthless guy 390 00:22:12.200 --> 00:22:15.839 this guy is. And he also has this like pet 391 00:22:16.119 --> 00:22:18.200 that he keeps next to him that looks kind of 392 00:22:18.319 --> 00:22:21.839 like the Ghostbusters. What are the creatures that run around 393 00:22:21.920 --> 00:22:22.440 the dogs? 394 00:22:22.559 --> 00:22:22.680 Oh? 395 00:22:22.960 --> 00:22:25.920 Yeah, if you starved one of those and it had 396 00:22:26.079 --> 00:22:29.720 mangy fur and looked like it lived in a sewer. 397 00:22:30.000 --> 00:22:33.119 The crew dumped that animal Fifi Riboso. 398 00:22:35.000 --> 00:22:37.319 It's the slimy looking ads. 399 00:22:37.440 --> 00:22:39.759 Yeah, and they creepy look. Apparently they would dump like 400 00:22:39.960 --> 00:22:42.079 liquid on it, like right before shooting, just to make 401 00:22:42.079 --> 00:22:45.119