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Speaker 1: The disclaimer to the fair season Karen's out There, Oh

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Dare You ill? Guests on the show do not reflect

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the opinions of the host. The purpose of the show

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is to have interesting conversations, stretch our minds and grow.

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Speaker 2: We're not what we want.

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Speaker 1: If you are looking for an echo chamber viewer and

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listener discretion, you talk about extreme what is happening and

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what is up? Hold out your glass because we're about

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to feel it up.

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Speaker 3: All things continually lead back to serpents, dragons, fairies, nepheline,

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and fallen angels.

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Speaker 4: In the distance looms a mystical mountain. As Mike Heuser

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used to say, if it's in the Bible and it's weird,

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it's probably important. At its peak, a great fire burns,

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concealing the Prometheus lenses.

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Speaker 3: This development of this knowledge that's being talked about within

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the mysteries.

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Speaker 4: An ancient artifact said to reveal the hidden truth within

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a deliberately darkened world.

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Speaker 1: There is a hidden history that's been deliberately obscated from

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the people's ol world.

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Speaker 4: Join us as we travel and explore the vast unknown.

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It's a hero's journey with dragons to slay damsels to save,

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and innumerable treasures to hoard.

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Speaker 1: Torches high the Smithsonian they call wind of a giant's help.

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Speaker 5: Would send their agents out to get it.

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Speaker 2: But it takes courage to move forward, to move out.

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Speaker 4: Of the shadows, out of the unreality that we think of,

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this reality.

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Speaker 1: We are all on the hero's journey.

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Speaker 4: Mankind has been in contact with and influenced by extra terrestrials.

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Speaker 1: Leave the sitient mound of bull feathers out of it, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, look at it from a different aspect, a different perspective.

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Speaker 1: Hey, what is happening and what is up? Hold actual

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glass because I'm about to feel it up. Welcome to

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the Prometheous Lens podcast, the place with the conversations are

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always enlightening. I'm your host, Justin and here we like

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to use the allegory of the Prometheus Lens to take

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a second look at everything. Hey guys, if you're new

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today I got a conversation for you guys that I

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think you're going to enjoy. Hopefully some people will get

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some enlightenment unintended there out of this one. And Uh,

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this woman, I met her through some back channels and

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through some communities that I'm a part of on Facebook,

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and we just started talking and we've had some similar

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interests in astrology and astronomy and seeing that kind of

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stuff in the Bible. And we've been talking back and

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forth and she actually had some amazing stories and testimonies.

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And I've been working on her for a few weeks

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now and she's finally cleared up her schedule and come

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to hang out with us and talk to us. But

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I'd like to welcome to the show, Lindsey. Lindsey, thank

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you for coming on.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me. I'm excited to

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be here.

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Speaker 1: Well, just for those that don't know you, just give

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us a little background and how you got here and

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what we're going to be talking about today.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I am an ex new Ager and I was

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born and raised Christian, but slowly slipped away and for

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about thirteen years was heavily into the New Age and

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recently a little over a year ago, got the callback

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to Jesus, like very strongly, and I someone shared one

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of these podcasts. The first one I think I listened

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to was Blurry Creatures, and then I've been subjected to others,

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including yours, and I was just very drawn to the

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supernatural side of the Bible. It answered a lot of

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questions for me, and that's how I'm here today.

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Speaker 1: Well, I did actually got to listen to that one

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talk that you did with the Blurry Creatures, and I

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think that was just a really fascinating testimony. And I

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remember when I talked to you about it, you were like, oh,

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I was so nervous, and I don't think I got

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out what I wanted to get out. So it's like,

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I want you to just be chill and relax here

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and take your time. And we got not to get

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out your story because just from what we've talked about,

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you've got some really good ones.

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Speaker 2: Great.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting that I'm even here telling my story because

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in one aspect, I feel like it's not that interesting.

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I was embarrassed to talk about it. People. I know

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similar things. It's this weird it's this weird juxtaposition of

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being embarrassed and then yeah, and just I don't feel

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like I'm an expert in Christianity. I don't feel like

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I'm an expert in ets. But I have had these

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crazy experiences, probably my whole life leading up to the

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big one that happened in I believe it was February

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of twenty eighteen.

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you first get into the New Age and how did

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that come about? And kind of walk us, you know,

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through your journey through that New Age movement.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been thinking about that a lot. What my

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Speaker 2: Since I was really little and I learned to read,

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devoured that. And so from a very young age, I

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was very into astrology. And my stepmother had a little

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bit of an esoteric extent to her, like she would

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pay for these numerology reports for.

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maybe the craft made a big impact in my life.

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I definitely had Wiccan books, and you know, I did

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the Meiji boards and you know, try to call ghosts

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as games like little you know, and it was all

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like fun and games. But looking back, you know, obviously

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it wasn't. And I was always drawn towards books that

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really emphasize characters that were like really good and really evil.

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a lot of I'm forgetting what's the word where you

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know you're dreaming and you can control your said dreams.

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to travel through the stars and then I would land

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in the dream and the dream would happen, and I

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would know I was dreaming.

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dream to some extent, and I would hear my stepmom

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the morning, and I would have to fly through the

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stars back and then I would wake up. And it

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but I had this one reoccurring dream that I would

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wake up after I flew through the stars and in

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my bedroom surrounded by my stuffed animals. And I had

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like thirty stuffed animals in real life and in the dream,

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and they were all evil in the dream, and they

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would all be talking to each other. And when I first,

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when I first started having the dream, I would just

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kind of stay still and listen to them and be

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scared to death until I woke up, and slowly I

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realized they were afraid of the light, and they were

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so afraid of me turning the light on, and so

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over a period of many many dreams, I got them

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to trust me.

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Speaker 5: And then when they finally.

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all still, and I never had that dream again. So

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with like adult eyes and having et experiences now, I

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wonder if it had to do with that in my

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child mind made them into stuffed animals. Anyway, That's just

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some background of my childhood. But oh, but I'm also

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always raised Christian on top of this, So I was

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Catholic my step my father and stepmother raised me Catholic,

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Speaker 2: So I spent my time in those two very different

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churches and very much believing in God and having a

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really strong relationship with God on top of all these

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things I was dabbling with from a young age.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, so like when you was doing that sort

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of stuff, So this was this just something like you

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were doing on your own, because I know you said

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some of the books were around and you found them fascinating.

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within yourself or did you have like a friend group

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like at school. You know, I necessarily wouldn't call it

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a coven like you know, lack minded people that you

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explored these topics and stuff with. Or was this just

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Speaker 5: I did.

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Speaker 5: I just had this.

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so many podcasts on these issues, I do wonder if

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it's in our DNA and passed down through families, because

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I recently had a talk with my mother and she

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has had a lot of things supernatural things happen, although

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I did. But then you know, going back, my cousin

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did a lot of research through DNA lines, and you know,

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there was definitely a couple two to be exact, accused,

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which is in our family line.

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Speaker 5: And whether you know they were.

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accused of being a witch or actually which is I

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don't know. But I find all that very interesting, just

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because I was so young when I started having those dreams,

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and that was before I kind of dabbled in the

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esoteric things. But to answer your question, in middle school

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in high school, and I was interested in with and

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I was spending a lot of time with myself because

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my parents, like I had tons of friends at school

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but you know, I wasn't allowed to do a lot

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of outside of school.

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Speaker 5: Things, so mostly by myself.

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Speaker 2: And then I did rope some friends into doing or

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trying out some things. But you know, I was really

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into colors and helped, you know, you could burn candles

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to like get wishes to come true and things like that.

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Speaker 1: And so when did that transition into I guess what

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you would label as new age, Like when did you

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start doing the meditation and the career stools and all

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that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it happened slowly, I guess. I dropped out

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of high school at seventeen. I was a really good student,

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but I really didn't want to live under my varment's

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roof anymore, so I just left school. I had an

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older boyfriend and moved in with him, and we traveled

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a lot for years out of the country. And then

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he long story short, he wasn't a US citizen. He

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was Brazilian and he couldn't renew his visa, and so

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very young age live in Brazil or breakup, and we

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a farm with a bunch of hippies, and I slowly

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holistic psychology, which is the same as regular psychology, except

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lots of meditation. I was very into my mindfulness meditation.

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I actually wanted to go get my PhD in mindfullness meditation.

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You know, it's all I still don't know, Like I

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don't feel like meditation is necessarily bad, but I think

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if you don't have the faith behind it, you know,

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and you don't know who you're clearing your mind for,

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you know, it's just such a fine line.

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Speaker 5: Looking back. Yeah, idea, that's what prairie is.

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Speaker 1: I mean, prairie is is a type of meditation. But

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I can't remember who it was somebody was talking about

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that and they were saying, basically like, your body is

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a vessel, and when you're doing that stuff, you are

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emptying your vessel, but you are emptying it and welcoming

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it to be filled. So if you're not, you know,

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under the umbrella of the Holy Spirit in Jesus Christ,

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you're inviting some of this dark stuff to feel your cup,

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you know, and as Christians where offering that empty vessel

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to Christ and the Holy Spirit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it doesn't feel like that at the time,

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or it didn't to me. And then yeah, I forget

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the yoga too, So I have to be honest. It's

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so funny to hear all these words coming out of

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my mouth because I've been surrounded by Christians my whole life.

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I've stuck up for Christians when people say Christians are

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so close minded, and you know, because my people I

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love have always been Christian, my parents and extended family.

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But when people said things like yoga was evil to me,

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I thought they were insane, Like I just you know,

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but when things happen to you and I feel like

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God just like kind of wakes you up, You're just

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you can't not see all the connections and all, like

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you know, like you're literally yoking yourself to deities or

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spirits or entities whatever you want would call them as

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you're doing yoga. It's it's wild. But so I think

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I was doing all of that without knowing, right. And

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then on top of it, I got really into the

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feminist movement in the way that you know, I felt

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really driven to make a lot of money and also

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not to settle down. And I had many partners and

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I drank a lot. I was partying. I was living

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like in the Boston area, and all my friends partied

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all the time, like we I don't know, it was

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just like the norm. It's like you go wild before

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you like settle down. And I think, you know, in hindsight,

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with that too, I was opening myself up to a

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lot of things, just having like multiple partners and yeah,

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so it slowly progressed. I ended up getting married and

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I actually had a very pagan ceremony. The God wasn't mentioned,

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you know, it was like worship and the earth kind

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of thing. And yeah, I just progressively went down the

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pagan route.

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Speaker 5: You probably notice being.

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Speaker 2: A witch is very trendy now, Like I was kind

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of at the forefront of that, but I never it was.

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Really it's interesting because I never felt comfortable calling myself

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a witch, like I just I like the circles I

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ran with.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 2: I was like, and honestly, it's interesting that I found out,

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you know, two of my ancestors were killed for being witches,

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which I didn't know until after. But yeah, no, it

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didn't feel appilling and it didn't feel empowering. I was like,

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that's a very negative word for a very negative thing

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that exists. And with all the dabbling I did some

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reason innately. Well, I never purposely did anything evil to

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hurt anyone or anything, and I never did any like

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love spells. I really believed in like free will, you know,

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and I there was a line that I just never

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would cross with things that I did. So yeah, so

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here I am very into the pagan world, which goes

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hand in hand with my profession. I'm a professional herbalist now,

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which there is a Christian Guild of Herbalism.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: I think it's funny I heard in one of the

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groups in I heard or someone posted that working with

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herbs is like making potions, and it really it really

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made me like think about it, and I, you know,

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I came to the conclusion that it's really about your intention,

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because God gifted us this medicine that's all around us. Seeing.

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Speaker 1: All over and I do no you know you're staying on.

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And you got to think too, because back during the

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you know, the Salem witch trials, to someone like you,

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even if you wasn't into the New Age, if you

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were just a well studied woman that knew the herbs

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and knew the remedies and that the cause and effects

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and was making tensures and things like that, all it

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takes is, you know, one pissed off man or one

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really super paranoid woman to run their mouth to the

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right people, and then you could be burned at the

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stake for just basically being what we would call a

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doctor today and be a witch.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I did a little research on that,

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and a lot of the women that were accused of being,

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which is happened to be able to financially support themselves.

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So they were herbalists. People came to them to buy medicine,

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and they were birth workers and death workers, which is

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how like the witches got there, you know, because they're

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working with birth and death and magic potions. But yeah,

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it's very into that's a whole nother you turned down

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that road and.

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Speaker 5: Talk about it for hours. But yeah, so that's kind

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of my background. I now you.

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Speaker 1: Can tell me and some messages that you even got

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into if I'm understood, if I understood you correctly, that

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you got so heavily into astronomy and astrology that you

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would do like readings stuff for people and people would

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pay you. Yeah. Yeah, so that was when did that happen?

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Speaker 2: So that happened in two early twenty and eighteen, No, sorry,

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late twenty seventeen. I it goes hand in hand with

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kind of the EH experience, which is really interesting. So

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I was very unhappy in my marriage I didn't. I

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wasn't connected to God. I we just couldn't work out

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our relationship. I felt really stuck, and I essentially quit

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a job to start a herbal company that was like

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on a whim, and I made like a lot of

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changes in my life trying to find happiness, like you know,

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like follow your heart, follow your passion. And I remember

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I went for a walk in the woods and I

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like I prayed, but not I don't know who I

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was praying to because I wasn't connected to God at

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that time. And I just was like, please give me

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like the magic back in my life, like I just

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feel so dull and empty and like like please show

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me like that there's magic.

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Speaker 5: And like whatever. And very quickly.

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Speaker 2: After that plea to them is what I just started

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having very mystical things happen again. Like I remember I

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went outside to look at the moon. There was like

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a bunch of super moons in a row where the

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moon was like huge, and I went outside by myself

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and looked, and all of a sudden, I felt this

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rush of I don't know how to explain it, but

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like energy traveling down. I was looking up at a

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mountain the moon was like behind the mountain and like

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just traveling like coming faster and faster and faster, and

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I felt like this energy was going to engulf me.

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And I had a moment where I was like, Okay,

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a minute, let this energy engulf me. And then last minute,

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I was like nope, and I just ran to the

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house and shut the door. I remember that was like

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one of my first experiences like opening up.

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Speaker 1: I changed my mind. I changed my mind, and.

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Speaker 2: I just like I was like wow, and just like

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slowly everything started just getting more literally glittering, and like

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I had like when I went for a walk in

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the woods, like I sensed like other beings I guess,

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and I was like, what's going on. I almost felt

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like I was on mushrooms or something and it wasn't.

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I did dabble, which so I know what it feels like. Yeah,

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everything was really magical and it just slowly ramped up

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and then in having it was all like oh yeah.

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So in February of twenty eighteen, I was sleeping. I

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was still married, and I was like be next to

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my husband and we had a skylight above the bed

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that I was out, and I woke up because I

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heard a NaN's voice say look out the window in

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like a deep voice, and I woke up and that

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was like echoing my head and I looked up out

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of a skylight and I saw, you know, a star,

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and there was but I saw stars of the skylight

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every night, and I was very afraid to get out

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of my bed to look out the actual window, and

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so I didn't, and I kind of just brushed it off.

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And then the next night I woke up again around

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the same time. I didn't hear the voice again, but

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I looked up through the skylight and the star was moving,

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and I was like, is that in my eyes? It's like,

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what's going on? And my friendly like build up the

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courage to get up, and I went. I looked out

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another window in the house and you could see that

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it was moving. It was an orb which I had

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never seen before, and I was just in awe and

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the feeling I got looking at it, well, it wasn't

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I wasn't scared. I was just like an awe and

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it was exhilarating, like it was so exciting. And this

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happened every night for a month. One would come to

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come three with you And I'm bringing it back to

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the astrology question. So when this was happening in the beginning,

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I was telling my business partner, who was very into

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esoteric things, extremely into them. She's like, you should go

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get your astrology tour, and I was like, what do

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you mean? And she explained to me that it's so

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much more than your son's signing. And there happened to

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be a woman like one town over was an astrology expert,

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and when I got my chart read with her and

479
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:37,799
I explained it was happening to me like that every

480
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,119
night I was getting visited by these orbs. I wasn't

481
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:45,200
embarrassed because she was super essential, so I knew she

482
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,240
could handle it. And she was like, oh, you're a

483
00:29:48,279 --> 00:29:49,200
star seed.

484
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:50,079
Speaker 5: Have you heard of this?

485
00:29:52,079 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 1: I've heard it, but I've not really like look deep

486
00:29:55,680 --> 00:30:00,200
into it. It's like basically from a Christian perspective, just

487
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,799
bluntly saying it's like the blood.

488
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,559
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, so I've just learned about that in the

489
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:12,759
past year. So essentially, if you're in the New Age world,

490
00:30:12,799 --> 00:30:15,720
a star seed is someone.

491
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,599
Speaker 5: That has like a big chunk of.

492
00:30:17,559 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 2: Their DNA is alien, right, so you could be from

493
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:31,400
the pleats or serious or it's called the Lyras star system,

494
00:30:31,599 --> 00:30:36,359
like there's there's these innate descriptions of all these beings

495
00:30:37,559 --> 00:30:41,799
and she did my chart and she's like, see, you're

496
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,559
clearly a star seed and like I'm like, I'm a

497
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:49,519
star seed, you know, like I you feel special and.

498
00:30:49,839 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 1: Everybody wants to feel special and important and.

499
00:30:55,240 --> 00:31:01,079
Speaker 2: What there's weird? There's weird confusing things because I think

500
00:31:01,119 --> 00:31:03,839
there's truth to it, but I can't like pick it

501
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,680
out do like I SA. I'll give you an example.

502
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:14,279
She sent me to her psychic friend, so I don't know.

503
00:31:14,319 --> 00:31:17,079
Maybe she talked to her before I got there, but

504
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,200
I don't think so. It was a zoom call and

505
00:31:20,559 --> 00:31:27,160
I didn't tell her anything about my personal life or

506
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,440
my children or anything. And I also, I'm not going

507
00:31:29,519 --> 00:31:33,160
to go into detail unless but I had a dream

508
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,799
when I was pregnant with my first fall and it

509
00:31:36,839 --> 00:31:41,000
was that man's voice, like the same one, and it

510
00:31:41,079 --> 00:31:43,920
was like his name will be and I'm going to

511
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:45,720
make up a name because I don't want to put

512
00:31:45,799 --> 00:31:51,880
it on my hair Lira, And I was like, what's Lira?

513
00:31:52,559 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 5: Lira?

514
00:31:53,039 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 2: I woke up and I told my husband, like were

515
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:58,039
naming him a Lira and he's like, no, we're not.

516
00:31:59,039 --> 00:32:01,759
And I was like, okay, So I negotiated to make

517
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,359
his middle name, but I looked up like different spellings

518
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:09,920
of this word, and I came up with this one

519
00:32:10,039 --> 00:32:16,400
story that the Lerians were the first humanoid travelers in

520
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:20,000
the galaxy to settle on Earth. And I was not

521
00:32:20,279 --> 00:32:29,119
This was like, yeah, in twenty ten or something with that. Sorry,

522
00:32:29,119 --> 00:32:30,599
I'm making up live now because I don't want to

523
00:32:30,599 --> 00:32:34,079
talk about my children on air. But the story is

524
00:32:34,119 --> 00:32:37,799
what matters. So I ended up spelling it the way

525
00:32:37,839 --> 00:32:42,200
that's talking about that first humanoid race. And I was

526
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,359
not into anything sci fi anything, right, this is a

527
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,599
long time ago. And so then I go to the

528
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:52,720
psychic right who specializes in star seeds, and she took

529
00:32:52,759 --> 00:32:56,079
one look at me and she's like, you're from Lyrah

530
00:32:56,200 --> 00:33:00,480
and your children are from Lilyrah. And I'm like like

531
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:04,200
what what is you Like? This is like, you know,

532
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:09,039
ten years later. And so there's all these things that

533
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,480
like build up that like really make they made me

534
00:33:12,599 --> 00:33:15,440
believe that all of this was really real. And then

535
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:19,599
I got sucked into the whole story that which is

536
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:25,000
very similar to Jesus's Second Coming or you know, God

537
00:33:25,119 --> 00:33:29,160
Creve and the New Earth. Essentially, there's a lot of

538
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:33,000
references to the New Earth in this five D movement,

539
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:38,799
and that the Earth was gonna bifurcate, meaning like split

540
00:33:38,839 --> 00:33:42,160
into two, and the people who couldn't raise their vibration

541
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,160
would stay on this like very heavy evil Earth, and

542
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,519
the people that were able to raise their vibration could

543
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,839
we move onto this like new five D Earth. Like

544
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,640
people still leave this now. And I believed it then,

545
00:33:57,039 --> 00:33:58,759
And it's connected to the whole Aliens.

546
00:33:59,039 --> 00:34:02,319
Speaker 1: Sounds like if you put Christian lands on it, when

547
00:34:02,359 --> 00:34:06,559
the new Kingdom of New Heaven comes down the ungodly

548
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,639
or outside the gates, you know, right.

549
00:34:09,559 --> 00:34:12,559
Speaker 2: No, it's so it's so interesting, right because it's like

550
00:34:12,639 --> 00:34:17,199
the truth with a twist, you know, and the right

551
00:34:17,559 --> 00:34:20,360
and the twist is in this case, is leaving out

552
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:26,960
Jesus from the story. So I got heavily into this.

553
00:34:27,159 --> 00:34:32,880
And then you know, in addition to this, I when

554
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:37,679
this woman read my child, I it was like another

555
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:42,920
language that I knew. Like some people will look at

556
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,639
an astrology chart and be like, what, like not get

557
00:34:46,639 --> 00:34:49,159
it at all. It was like something clipped in my head.

558
00:34:49,199 --> 00:34:52,639
I was like like I just like instantly got it

559
00:34:52,679 --> 00:34:54,880
and I couldn't get enough of it, and I just

560
00:34:54,960 --> 00:35:00,360
devoured it. And there's really I actually ended up studying

561
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:04,360
ancient astrology, which is like it comes from Greece and

562
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:09,679
it's you could study radic astrology, which is not Western,

563
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,079
and I didn't really with that at all, but I

564
00:35:12,119 --> 00:35:17,519
studied the Greek, the Greek astrology, and it just it's

565
00:35:17,599 --> 00:35:21,199
crazy how accurate it is. Like I people did pay

566
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,559
me to do your charts. I didn't start charging for

567
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:28,440
a year or so after, but the things I could

568
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,800
know about people's lives or their character or whatever, like,

569
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:38,239
I just like it's real. And I even feel like

570
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,000
God used it to call me back, which is part

571
00:35:41,039 --> 00:35:46,880
of us too, if we get there. And when I

572
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,760
when I got called back, I threw out my tarot

573
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:58,960
cards right away. That's another thing I was into, right I.

574
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,159
I guess I'll just God called me back so powerfully.

575
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:06,000
I fell to my knees and just started crying and

576
00:36:06,079 --> 00:36:13,239
like I you know, I didn't hear him audibly, but

577
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,480
I heard him in my head and it was he

578
00:36:16,199 --> 00:36:23,719
forgave me and it was the most loving, fatherly, safe,

579
00:36:25,599 --> 00:36:29,239
like vast feeling that I ever felt in my life.

580
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:30,960
I felt it when I was younger, because I did

581
00:36:31,039 --> 00:36:36,960
have a connection to God when I younger. And I

582
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,400
was like, I'm so sorry. Like I instantly knew like

583
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,039
all the things I was dabbling in, and I understood

584
00:36:42,159 --> 00:36:45,400
why he didn't want me dabbling in it. It wasn't

585
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,239
because you didn't want me to have fun or to

586
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:52,480
have the knowledge or experience magic or any of that.

587
00:36:52,599 --> 00:36:56,199
It was because I was opening myself up to these

588
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,079
entities that didn't necessarily want the best things for me.

589
00:37:00,119 --> 00:37:03,199
And one of the first things that he spoke to

590
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,599
me that was tero And he was like, who's giving

591
00:37:06,639 --> 00:37:11,800
you those answers? And I was like my higher self.

592
00:37:12,599 --> 00:37:14,840
Like as I was saying that, I was like, I

593
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:18,880
am myself, He's my higher you know, it makes sense

594
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,719
when you're in it. But then and he just showed me.

595
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:26,519
He essentially was like, listen, there's there's beings that don't

596
00:37:26,559 --> 00:37:28,639
want the best for you and would love more than

597
00:37:28,679 --> 00:37:32,800
anything to be embodied and and and I was like,

598
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,280
oh my God. And I instantly got rid of them.

599
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:39,199
And I asked about astrology and I still feel this

600
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:43,719
way to the say it's not meant for self study

601
00:37:44,119 --> 00:37:48,000
and self obsession and predicting our own individual futures. It's

602
00:37:48,079 --> 00:37:51,519
meant for us to read signs from the heaven. He's

603
00:37:51,559 --> 00:37:59,360
from God, like you know. And yes, and and there's

604
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,800
a fine line, right because like with knowledge, you can

605
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:07,039
twist it not what it's not meant to be used for.

606
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,199
Speaker 5: So that comes here.

607
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 1: Which one thing I did when I asked before before

608
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:19,280
you go on the voice. You know, you said you

609
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,079
was laying in bed and you heard it, you know,

610
00:38:21,199 --> 00:38:26,559
just audibly, you know, look up? Is that what you said?

611
00:38:26,599 --> 00:38:27,039
Look up?

612
00:38:27,159 --> 00:38:28,320
Speaker 2: Or out the window?

613
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 1: Look out the window? When you heard that? Was it

614
00:38:36,039 --> 00:38:40,840
a familiar voice? Was it a scary voice? A comforting voice?

615
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,599
I mean? Did I mean? Did it invoke any kind

616
00:38:44,639 --> 00:38:48,719
of emotion from you when you heard that voice? And

617
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:53,360
the reason why I ask is a lot of people

618
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,360
I've talked to that seems to be a common theme

619
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:05,320
before uh, a sighting. We'll just say a sighting. I've

620
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,679
heard you say it. I've heard several other people on

621
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:15,639
different podcasts and given their testimonies. And Gary Steerman he

622
00:39:15,679 --> 00:39:18,719
said he was flying and then he kept hearing look

623
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:22,400
out the window, look out the window, and he finally

624
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,880
did and he's seen a saucer or something, you know,

625
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,440
flying outside of the window of his plane. And then

626
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:32,039
another guy, he's the local guy. I talked to him.

627
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,400
He had. He said it was the craziest summer of

628
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:40,800
his life in I wanted to say it was twenty fourteen,

629
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,639
but he said he'd never had any guy's supernatural experiences.

630
00:39:44,679 --> 00:39:47,800
He said, but that summer, he was sitting in his

631
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:49,679
living room and he said, I heard a boyish playing

632
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:55,159
his day go out to the hot tub. He said that.

633
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,400
I was like, no, I'm watching TV. I don't want

634
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,000
to go out there, he said, And I heard it again,

635
00:40:01,519 --> 00:40:04,159
he said. Finally, he said. I just said, all right, fine,

636
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:06,159
he said. I went out there and sat in the

637
00:40:06,199 --> 00:40:08,039
hot tub. He said, I'm sitting there for a few minutes.

638
00:40:08,039 --> 00:40:12,519
He said, I heard it again. Look up, look up,

639
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:14,760
he said, And I did, he said, And I just

640
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:18,599
seen this light. He said, get brighter and clothes.

641
00:40:18,519 --> 00:40:21,599
Speaker 3: And I saw a star and it got really bright

642
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:26,000
and dim and bright, and damn it did it four times.

643
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,199
And on the fourth time it got bright, it just took.

644
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,320
Speaker 1: Off open and closed, he said, like Paulsey. He said.

645
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:36,519
Then finally it just and was gone, he said. And

646
00:40:36,599 --> 00:40:42,239
then he said he started seeing having Bigfoot experiences, had

647
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:47,119
other UFO and ORB experiences in the sky, and he said,

648
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:52,360
and everything ended the same way it began, he said.

649
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,760
I was out in my hot tub, he said, and

650
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,960
I heard that voice again, look up, he said. I

651
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,960
was like, oh shit, hooked up, he said. And I

652
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:04,840
saw that same pulsating lot, he said, And then all

653
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:08,599
my all the crazy experiences that I was having stopped.

654
00:41:10,199 --> 00:41:11,840
So I just, you know, I wanted to ask you,

655
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:13,800
you know, what was your interpretation of the voice and

656
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,000
how did it make you feel, because that's that's something

657
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:16,719
you hear often.

658
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:21,199
Speaker 2: Well, so I heard. That's the thing is I didn't

659
00:41:21,519 --> 00:41:27,559
it was neutral, but it had like authority, you know,

660
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:33,239
like it you know, it was an it's like very

661
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,840
matter of fact when it happens, you know, like like

662
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:38,719
it's almost like you have to feel like that's not

663
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:43,719
normal to hear someone gives that you don't know and

664
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,920
you can't see. And it was you know, it's interesting

665
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:48,800
for me that happened twice in my life. It was

666
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,559
the same voice when I was con telling me what

667
00:41:51,679 --> 00:41:56,280
to mean him. So it's so confusing, right, Like we

668
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,480
have all this information, all these similar experiences, and I

669
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:00,280
have no idea. Yeah.

670
00:42:03,639 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, so that's it was neutral. That answered your question.

671
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 1: Good.

672
00:42:12,039 --> 00:42:15,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, so, I guess. So back to the that February

673
00:42:15,519 --> 00:42:18,639
of twenty eighteen, because that was probably the whileest wide

674
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:23,679
I was getting into astrology. I had this esoteric astrologer

675
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:29,000
who actually became my teacher. I started really studying astrology

676
00:42:29,039 --> 00:42:37,559
with her, and she held a lot of ceremonies. In hindsight,

677
00:42:37,639 --> 00:42:41,119
I don't know who the ceremonies were to, right, you know,

678
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:48,840
maybe the ets, maybe the god this is. I got

679
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:55,119
into goddess worship too, which it's so crazy talking about this.

680
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,639
I'm so ashamed of all the things I got sucked

681
00:42:57,639 --> 00:43:00,440
into that were that just felt like so empowered and

682
00:43:01,119 --> 00:43:09,639
normal in a way. So then I'll get to like

683
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,840
the orbs and the ets and everything. But one thing

684
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,280
that I find really interesting that I still don't have

685
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:21,400
answers to is one day she told me that one

686
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:25,320
of her astrology clients had almost the same exact birth

687
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,840
child isn't And she's like, that's you know, I've been

688
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:32,000
doing astrology for decades and it's unheard of.

689
00:43:32,679 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 5: That's some weep.

690
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:36,559
Speaker 2: I've never seen that. And she lived in the same

691
00:43:36,599 --> 00:43:40,480
town and I was like, oh weird, and she told

692
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:42,519
me his name and I had never met him, and

693
00:43:42,599 --> 00:43:44,760
I was like, oh weird, and I kind of filed

694
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,519
it in the back of my head. And we went

695
00:43:47,519 --> 00:43:51,679
out for tea at a local coffee shop after because

696
00:43:52,199 --> 00:43:55,679
her internet went out for something. And so when we

697
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:59,480
were finishing up some work we were doing online, and

698
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:02,719
all of a sudden, the door walk opens to this

699
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:06,719
coffee shop. And I can't explain other than like time

700
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,000
kind of slowed a little bit, and everything in the

701
00:44:09,119 --> 00:44:14,559
room started getting wobbly, and I look up and this

702
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:19,239
man standing there and he's like my age and I'd

703
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,840
never seen him before, and we like b locked eyes

704
00:44:22,559 --> 00:44:25,599
and if the whole room's like little wrong, and she

705
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,519
stood up and she's like, I'll leave you too to it,

706
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:34,119
and I'm like what, And then I realized she was

707
00:44:34,159 --> 00:44:35,760
the guy with this or he was the guy with

708
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:40,800
the same chart asn't he and supposedly he's like he

709
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,400
didn't really know why he was there. She didn't call

710
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:48,719
him there, like you know, and so somehow I felt

711
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:50,360
obligated to talk to him.

712
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:51,679
Speaker 5: It was very awkward.

713
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 2: She laughed, things kind of got normal again, and he

714
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:02,159
asked me for my because he was getting into astrology

715
00:45:02,199 --> 00:45:05,840
and he wanted me to leave his heart. And I

716
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:09,039
told Hi, I'm like, I'm I'm married, because I felt

717
00:45:09,039 --> 00:45:11,519
like it was like he was, you know, hitting on

718
00:45:11,599 --> 00:45:14,679
me and he wasn't. And he's like, oh no, that's fine.

719
00:45:14,679 --> 00:45:17,000
He's like, I'm really into stology. I'm like, okay. So

720
00:45:17,079 --> 00:45:21,920
we texted for a couple of day days about astrology.

721
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,119
And by the way, the orbs are visiting me during

722
00:45:25,159 --> 00:45:28,000
this time, but I literally only told my business partner

723
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:30,960
and my astrologer and my husband.

724
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:31,679
Speaker 5: Okay.

725
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:33,559
Speaker 2: So a couple of days later, I lived in a

726
00:45:33,599 --> 00:45:37,239
pretty rural area. I decided to go shovel a mulch

727
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:41,840
at a free mult pile in the middle of nowhere,

728
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,519
like you know, you only know about it if you've

729
00:45:44,559 --> 00:45:45,360
lived in the area.

730
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 5: And one right.

731
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 2: And I was shoveling, and all of a sudden, I

732
00:45:55,039 --> 00:45:56,880
chuck pulled up and I just looked up and smiled

733
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,119
and it was him and we're and he was like,

734
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:02,760
you know, we're like, oh weird. So we shoveled mulch

735
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,440
and talked and like in my head, I'm like, okay,

736
00:46:05,639 --> 00:46:08,280
this is you know, getting this a sign, Like.

737
00:46:09,039 --> 00:46:12,039
Speaker 1: There was this guy stalking me, got like a GPS

738
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:13,880
tracker or something on my car.

739
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just and there's no service around where we live,

740
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:19,719
so it's not even you know, there's nothing like that.

741
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:24,079
Then another time we ran into each other, so I

742
00:46:24,079 --> 00:46:26,719
can't remember. It was like it was two times after

743
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,519
we ran into each other in very weird places. I

744
00:46:29,599 --> 00:46:31,159
never I lived there for a long time. I never

745
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,800
met me before. And finally we're like, let's meet up

746
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:38,639
on purpose and go for a hike. So we we

747
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:42,599
started like as friends, going for like occasionally a walk

748
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:46,639
or a hike or whatever. And so.

749
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 5: One day my the astrologer sat me down.

750
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 2: She was like, I had this vision that I need

751
00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:00,599
to tell you about. So she made me, she made

752
00:47:00,639 --> 00:47:08,000
me sit under like a copper copper, yes, with like

753
00:47:08,039 --> 00:47:11,440
a crystal thing on top, to tell me all this stuff.

754
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:16,559
And she's like, a, well, well, I heard the orbs

755
00:47:16,559 --> 00:47:19,079
are referred to as marks too.

756
00:47:19,519 --> 00:47:22,159
Speaker 1: It's a chariot, you know, it's a Hebrew word for chariot.

757
00:47:22,199 --> 00:47:24,440
But like a lot of the new agers that they

758
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,360
make that and they meditate inside of it, and some

759
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:30,000
some people referred to that as as a marcava. That's

760
00:47:30,079 --> 00:47:35,199
the interesting the machine that the there, you know, they

761
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:38,039
can soul travel in or whatever.

762
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:43,039
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I can't believe I was anyway, So

763
00:47:43,079 --> 00:47:46,239
I was in there. She did a meditation thing and

764
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:49,440
then she was like, I saw you and this man

765
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:54,719
together and like, you know, he became like the stepfather

766
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:58,559
of your children, like you guys were healing in the world,

767
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,440
like like all this crazy imaging. And I was like,

768
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:06,239
I really liked this person, this man, but we it

769
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:10,679
was very friend vibe, like in it there was like

770
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:14,920
a huge magnetic vibe like or attraction to get us

771
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:18,679
to come together. But it wasn't. It wasn't like you know,

772
00:48:20,119 --> 00:48:25,119
no I was and I wasn't. Yeah, it was just

773
00:48:25,159 --> 00:48:28,320
so confusing, like the whole thing, right, And I was

774
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:31,360
kind of like, oh weird. And I had been thinking

775
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:36,719
about ending my relationship, but I think because my my

776
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,599
ex and I were working through some pretty hard stuff.

777
00:48:41,079 --> 00:48:42,639
Speaker 5: But I think that her.

778
00:48:42,599 --> 00:48:45,800
Speaker 2: Vision and that whole thing like ultimately made me leave

779
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:47,679
my husband and.

780
00:48:49,119 --> 00:48:49,679
Speaker 1: Confirmation.

781
00:48:51,159 --> 00:48:56,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a confirmation. But like, so this person,

782
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:59,320
this man is a big part of the whole et thing,

783
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:01,840
which I'll so I'll come back to that. So I

784
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:05,000
was talking about the ORBS that would come visit and

785
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:06,840
it was like the one you were just describing as

786
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:10,880
your friend. They would pull sate like they would they would, yeah,

787
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:14,400
get really tight and darker and then like expand and

788
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,760
become brighter, and from far away they were at like

789
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:21,119
a neon blue would be the main thing. But if

790
00:49:21,159 --> 00:49:26,360
I had videotaped it and you know, magnify the video,

791
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:30,440
it was a rainbow and like lisaid, a wheel within

792
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:30,920
a wheel.

793
00:49:32,599 --> 00:49:33,519
Speaker 5: It almost looks.

794
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:37,360
Speaker 2: Like that science icon with all the roots and the

795
00:49:38,599 --> 00:49:41,079
atom dots on it.

796
00:49:41,079 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 5: It wasn't just the orbs.

797
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:47,159
Speaker 2: I started having these crazy dreams where I was on

798
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:54,840
a spaceship with you know, uniform, and I had and

799
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:58,039
my I had a male counterpart that was also in

800
00:49:58,119 --> 00:49:59,079
the spaceship with me.

801
00:50:00,039 --> 00:50:01,679
Speaker 5: He also was in the same uniform.

802
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 2: And the last time I saw this vision, the me,

803
00:50:09,679 --> 00:50:14,079
the woman that I thought was me, was really worried

804
00:50:14,079 --> 00:50:17,280
about something. Something went wrong. This was this is and

805
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:17,800
this is.

806
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:19,199
Speaker 5: What we in the New Age world.

807
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:22,679
Speaker 2: It's downloads. You just know things without understanding why we

808
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:30,079
know things. And it it looks like what I got

809
00:50:30,079 --> 00:50:32,360
from the whole situation was there's a version of me

810
00:50:32,519 --> 00:50:35,519
in this three D earth world. And there's a version

811
00:50:35,559 --> 00:50:38,880
of me in this five D E T Europe and

812
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:42,079
we're the same, but we're just in different dimensions. And

813
00:50:42,199 --> 00:50:47,280
it seemed so normal then, and everyone in this world

814
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:51,039
talks about stuff like this. It's called soul breeding in

815
00:50:51,119 --> 00:50:57,800
the in the esoteric world. And my male partner wasn't

816
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:01,599
supposed to come down, but something happened. It seems like

817
00:51:01,679 --> 00:51:06,039
I mess something up and he was like, well, now

818
00:51:06,039 --> 00:51:09,519
I'm going to have to come down. And I woke

819
00:51:09,639 --> 00:51:13,159
up and this was like the end of me seeing

820
00:51:13,199 --> 00:51:16,519
the aliens and having the whole et thing. I think

821
00:51:16,519 --> 00:51:22,880
it was one of my last vivid dreams, and I

822
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,719
was this is where I jumped all over the place.

823
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:27,480
But I was really upset because I knew they weren't

824
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:29,639
going to come back, and I feel like I lost

825
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,320
my chance of seeing what they were all about because

826
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:36,480
I never actually let that energy engulf me. When they

827
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:38,960
came down and got close enough, I ended up doing

828
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:40,920
big prayers around my house.

829
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 5: I don't know about if.

830
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 2: You've ever had a personal where you've been further away

831
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:50,760
from God. I've never totally left God, but whenever I

832
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:55,039
get scared like shit less. Sorry, A very comparison this.

833
00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:03,480
I always in God, like when I'm scared, it's just

834
00:52:03,559 --> 00:52:06,039
so I know. I never stopped believing because it's just there,

835
00:52:06,559 --> 00:52:09,039
you know, like who do I go to first? And

836
00:52:09,119 --> 00:52:11,400
I when I was so scared, when the etues were

837
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:15,199
around and visiting all the time, I said prayers in

838
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:18,000
my house. I walked around my house. I was like,

839
00:52:18,079 --> 00:52:20,519
you are not allowed in here unless you were sent

840
00:52:20,599 --> 00:52:24,679
by God. And it worked like they stopped coming in

841
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:28,280
the house. But anyway, I knew it was going to

842
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,280
be the last time and they were not going to

843
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:34,239
come back. They told me that, and I was I

844
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:37,760
was crying, and I was like, if it's like this

845
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:40,079
meant anything, I know I'm not going to know what

846
00:52:40,119 --> 00:52:42,880
it was about. He was give me a sign and

847
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:47,800
the sky flashed the neon blue, and I was like, okay,

848
00:52:48,599 --> 00:52:53,159
I'm insane. The next day I had coffee with the

849
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:57,000
sky and he looked like a little disheveled and I

850
00:52:57,119 --> 00:52:59,639
was like, what's wrong, And he again, I never told

851
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,079
him thing that was happening as far as ets went,

852
00:53:02,679 --> 00:53:05,159
and He's like, the weirdest thing happened. I was looking

853
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:09,639
at the window last night and out of the woods

854
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:12,840
came this, like me on blue Flash and he's like,

855
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:14,960
and then I felt a rush of energy come at

856
00:53:15,039 --> 00:53:17,679
me while I was just staring at the window, and

857
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:19,760
my head got scrambled.

858
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 5: And he was like embarrassed telling me.

859
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:23,800
Speaker 2: About it because he wasn't I can I understand it?

860
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:25,800
And he's like, I can't explain it. I feel really

861
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:29,480
weird today, and my head still feels like scrambled. He

862
00:53:29,599 --> 00:53:32,119
kept saying that, and I was just and he was

863
00:53:32,199 --> 00:53:34,920
doing the ceremonies and stuff with me too, so I

864
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:39,559
feel like maybe he was open to whatever was happening.

865
00:53:40,199 --> 00:53:42,280
But it was like right after I had that dream

866
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:48,320
of that my male counterparts solebrating. So I still I

867
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:52,320
never told him to this day, and he essentially stopped.

868
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:55,639
We just stopped talking. We just kind of fell off

869
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:58,159
the face of earth. He's real, he exists, The blurry

870
00:53:58,199 --> 00:54:00,440
guys asked me. I know he's got me married. I

871
00:54:00,519 --> 00:54:03,760
know they live in the next time over, but it's

872
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:06,559
like our path never across again. It's really weird.

873
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 1: That was I was gonna let you finish your story,

874
00:54:10,519 --> 00:54:11,880
but I was about to ask, you know, did he

875
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:14,239
just suddenly disappeared and you never seen him again? Like

876
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:16,639
he was a like a Nordic or something.

877
00:54:18,079 --> 00:54:21,679
Speaker 2: No, he's he's still around. He has like a business

878
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,159
like part of me was like, I why didn't you

879
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:28,480
like ask his side of the story or if anything happened,

880
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:30,400
like he could have had this happening. You know, I

881
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:34,079
don't even know that's something you just bring up in

882
00:54:34,159 --> 00:54:37,760
normal conversation until you hear a million podcasts of other

883
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:39,599
people having the same experience.

884
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:46,360
Speaker 1: And La Marzouli, you know, he's got all those films

885
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:49,519
that he done, you know, just specifically looking into the

886
00:54:49,679 --> 00:54:54,480
UFO phenomenon and got that testimony of Karen Wilkinson.

887
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:55,800
Speaker 2: Haven't heard that.

888
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if yeah, you need to check that out.

889
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:01,519
I've had her on the show too, But she's had

890
00:55:01,639 --> 00:55:05,480
UFO experiences since she was like six years old, and

891
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:09,599
she would actually get abducted, and she said and she

892
00:55:09,679 --> 00:55:14,039
would describe how they would take her and she would

893
00:55:14,119 --> 00:55:16,480
just be in rooms with other kids her age and

894
00:55:16,559 --> 00:55:19,800
stuff like that, and how that basically she got assigned

895
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:24,920
an overseer, I guess what you'd call it. But he

896
00:55:25,079 --> 00:55:27,920
was there throughout her life and he would appear and

897
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:31,239
talk to her and when she would get abducted, he

898
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:35,760
would come in and talk to her and basically grooming

899
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:39,960
her and said that basically once she got of age,

900
00:55:42,039 --> 00:55:49,119
he raped her and that she ended up becoming pregnant,

901
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:55,599
went to the doctor, was confirmed pregnant, and like when

902
00:55:55,639 --> 00:55:57,880
she went for like the next checkup or whatever, there

903
00:55:58,039 --> 00:56:03,519
was no heartbeat, the red blood cell count had dissipated

904
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:06,000
and or the white blood cell count had dissipated, and

905
00:56:06,039 --> 00:56:09,119
they were like, huh, it's like you were never even pregnant.

906
00:56:09,159 --> 00:56:12,719
Are you sure that you were pregnant? And all this

907
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:14,480
stuff of that that happened to her I think three

908
00:56:14,559 --> 00:56:18,760
times wow, and then one night in her sleep, uh.

909
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:27,360
Those Uh. She believes those children came to her, you know,

910
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:31,440
basically like a hybrid breeding program, Like they took them

911
00:56:31,599 --> 00:56:36,800
and put them in an incubator and grew them. Yeah,

912
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:39,000
she said, once I prayed in the name of Jesus,

913
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:43,719
you know, she said, they they left. But the she

914
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:45,679
said that it was just like the black eyed children

915
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:46,760
how people describe.

916
00:56:47,519 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great. So I thank god that it never

917
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:55,920
got that far. I don't know, like, can you imagine

918
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:59,719
because people don't believe these things, like and imagine something

919
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:04,599
die traumatic happening. There's a woman inn a few times over.

920
00:57:04,679 --> 00:57:07,760
I don't know her, but people told me her story.

921
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:10,920
It's very similar to that. And I don't know how

922
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:13,239
old is this woman that has happened to.

923
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 1: She's probably early to mid fifties.

924
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 2: So I had this weird feeling. I've heard the one

925
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:24,920
that was in Vermont, and then other people like of

926
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:28,599
a certain like they're all over fifty. I would say, like,

927
00:57:29,079 --> 00:57:32,280
and then, and then anyone under fifty has don't have

928
00:57:32,599 --> 00:57:35,079
at least all my people I know that have had

929
00:57:35,159 --> 00:57:40,840
you two experiences don't have that as traumatic. I don't know.

930
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:44,960
It's really interesting. And one of the questions I have

931
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:50,639
is there you know everyone the big hypothesis is that

932
00:57:51,159 --> 00:57:55,440
they're fallen angels, right, but are there are there regular

933
00:57:55,559 --> 00:57:59,599
angels in the mix too? Or I don't know if

934
00:57:59,639 --> 00:58:03,800
there's any biblical reference. I mean, obviously you know angels

935
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:07,519
haven't good angels have interacted with us, right, And so

936
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:10,239
I was so sure the orbs that were visiting me,

937
00:58:11,159 --> 00:58:14,320
and then the dreams I had it felt good, It

938
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:14,920
felt like.

939
00:58:16,719 --> 00:58:17,239
Speaker 5: Really good.

940
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:20,039
Speaker 2: I actually was in a ball crying the last time

941
00:58:20,159 --> 00:58:23,440
they came. I had really clear visions that they were

942
00:58:24,159 --> 00:58:28,559
like a parent figures, like a mom and Dad and

943
00:58:28,639 --> 00:58:30,440
then a male.

944
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 5: Figure that was my age.

945
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:35,719
Speaker 2: Like I could see them like in my not physically,

946
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:38,039
but like in my mind's eye, and they were like

947
00:58:38,159 --> 00:58:41,079
pleading with me to come outside, and all I felt

948
00:58:41,239 --> 00:58:44,199
was love for them, but there was something in me

949
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:48,159
that was so terrified that would not let me go

950
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:52,760
meet them. Like in hindsight, I did all that praying

951
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:56,039
over my house, and I feel like if they were

952
00:58:56,159 --> 00:59:01,960
of God or benevolent, my prayers went and have stopped them.

953
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:04,280
Well obviously if they were, have got nothing want to

954
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:09,199
stop them from entering my house, but they like adhere

955
00:59:09,239 --> 00:59:13,039
to the barrier, and I kind of feel like they

956
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:17,679
I don't think the longer I saw with it, I

957
00:59:17,719 --> 00:59:19,960
don't think it would have been a good experience if

958
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:24,199
I want with them. Yeah, I'm so grateful that something

959
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:28,800
helped me back, But there's something, this is.

960
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 1: Something to you that's just we don't have to just

961
00:59:30,599 --> 00:59:33,960
take your word for neither, because you've shown me lots

962
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:40,000
of pictures and video interaction with these these orbs, right.

963
00:59:40,119 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have, yeah, I have my I did have

964
00:59:42,079 --> 00:59:47,000
an iPhone, but it's yeah, yeah, I could email you

965
00:59:47,079 --> 00:59:48,639
them too, if you ever want to put them up.

966
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:52,119
But I find it in just great because people are

967
00:59:52,599 --> 00:59:57,840
are experiencing more orbs intermixed with the drones like we

968
00:59:58,000 --> 00:59:58,800
talked about.

969
00:59:59,679 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 1: And the wheels within wheels, because it's like, you know,

970
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:04,719
you got all this stuff happening right now in New Jersey,

971
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:07,599
and like you said, I think it's it's hard to

972
01:00:07,719 --> 01:00:10,320
tell because it's like you have a shmortgash board of

973
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:15,039
stuff in the sky. You have orbs, you have drones,

974
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:18,440
you have these things that when you zoom in it

975
01:00:18,519 --> 01:00:21,440
looks like wheels within wheels with the eyes round about.

976
01:00:21,639 --> 01:00:26,920
Just like in Ezekiel and the angels in the Bible,

977
01:00:27,119 --> 01:00:30,239
you can't tell them apart from from humans, right. You

978
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:32,440
know that they walk up and sit down and have

979
01:00:32,599 --> 01:00:36,760
dinner with Abraham. They eat, they drink, and they're obviously beautiful.

980
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:39,639
They go into the city of Sodom and the people

981
01:00:39,719 --> 01:00:45,480
want to have sex with them. And so the Bible

982
01:00:45,519 --> 01:00:48,639
tells you too to be nice and kind of strangers

983
01:00:48,719 --> 01:00:52,800
because you could be entertaining angels unaware, right, and you

984
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:55,239
hear all the stories about the Nordics and all these

985
01:00:55,280 --> 01:01:00,920
different types of UFO and alien entities. I mean, if

986
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:05,440
you take a textbook definition God, angels, demon Satan. All

987
01:01:05,559 --> 01:01:09,079
these things are not of this world. So on a technicality,

988
01:01:09,199 --> 01:01:13,079
you could easily just slap that ride in there under extraterrestrial.

989
01:01:13,199 --> 01:01:16,840
So right, who's to say if these things ain't using

990
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:20,679
some type of vehicle and can conveying around and what

991
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:25,519
we're seeing is them mixed. And also, I mean right, right.

992
01:01:26,119 --> 01:01:28,960
Speaker 2: Well I do the orbs. So back to just because

993
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:32,639
you brought Merku book before, when I was experiencing those orbs,

994
01:01:32,679 --> 01:01:36,679
and then there was also like an entsity connected to

995
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:41,239
the orb I was told through down onths. Sounds so

996
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:43,320
silly to say, but I was not into any of

997
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:45,840
this sci fi stuff. So it's not like I've been

998
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:48,639
reading and it got in my head. It's just all

999
01:01:48,679 --> 01:01:52,280
of a sudden I knew these things. It felt to

1000
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:57,800
me like the orbs were a safe way for physical

1001
01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:02,679
beings to travel, like like that they that they were

1002
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:08,199
in bigger ships, in physical bodies, but were able, they

1003
01:02:08,239 --> 01:02:10,199
had the technology, they were able to come out in

1004
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:15,400
these orbs that look like not solid but almost like

1005
01:02:15,519 --> 01:02:22,360
they could be some kind of plasma thing, and like

1006
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:25,360
where their essence is in it, but like their physical

1007
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:26,199
body isn't it.

1008
01:02:26,599 --> 01:02:28,880
Speaker 5: That's what it felt like to me, and.

1009
01:02:31,559 --> 01:02:36,079
Speaker 2: I even feel like I saw and like I'm questioning

1010
01:02:36,079 --> 01:02:38,320
because it's been so long and it was so crazy

1011
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:40,079
at the time, but I felt like I saw like

1012
01:02:40,159 --> 01:02:43,760
an actual ship like in the clouds, like kind of cloaked,

1013
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:47,480
and that these things were like flying out of that

1014
01:02:47,679 --> 01:02:50,039
was only like once and like you know, the many

1015
01:02:50,119 --> 01:02:51,559
many times I saw them.

1016
01:02:51,519 --> 01:02:51,599
Speaker 4: But.

1017
01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I also one piece of the new h Et

1018
01:02:58,559 --> 01:03:04,679
story too, is that there was in the past, there

1019
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:10,679
was a galactic war and that I don't know if

1020
01:03:10,719 --> 01:03:16,480
you've heard this, but that's why supposedly the Pleadians were

1021
01:03:16,559 --> 01:03:20,599
involved with it, and they call the people of Lyra Thellierans,

1022
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:26,519
and at one point, yeah, there was a galactic war

1023
01:03:26,639 --> 01:03:29,280
of like some kind of evil group. I forget what

1024
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:32,400
they're probably like the like it's been so long now

1025
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:33,679
that that's Tomans, you.

1026
01:03:33,719 --> 01:03:35,039
Speaker 5: Know, their whole thing.

1027
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 2: But supposedly there was all the mixed races of aliens

1028
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:43,719
living peacefully and serious for a long time until this

1029
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:47,159
galactic war happened. That's why there's such a mix of

1030
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:51,199
beings here on Earth with all different alien DNA and

1031
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:55,239
blah blah blah. It's like a very intricate story that

1032
01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:58,519
people that live in that world, believe very clearly. And

1033
01:03:58,679 --> 01:04:01,679
I since I've been, you know, reading the Bible with

1034
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:06,159
new eyes. You know, we don't know if God is,

1035
01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:10,639
if there was a separate existence before our existence, I

1036
01:04:10,679 --> 01:04:13,280
don't think. But I'm not a Bible expert by any means.

1037
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:14,400
Speaker 5: I hope no one comes out.

1038
01:04:15,039 --> 01:04:20,639
Speaker 1: A lot of people tossed around, you know, the gap theory. Yep.

1039
01:04:21,719 --> 01:04:24,920
I talked to Ryan Peterson on the show and we

1040
01:04:25,079 --> 01:04:27,239
talked about it, and a lot of people believe that

1041
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:31,519
there's a huge gap in time between Genesis one one

1042
01:04:32,079 --> 01:04:35,159
and verse two because in there it says when you

1043
01:04:35,239 --> 01:04:39,599
look into the Hebrew, it says that you know, the

1044
01:04:39,679 --> 01:04:42,320
earth was in the beginning. God created the heavens and

1045
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:46,559
the earth, and it was noel and void. You know.

1046
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:49,440
It says that he hovered over the face of the

1047
01:04:49,559 --> 01:04:52,519
deep and all that stuff. Well, when you go into

1048
01:04:52,559 --> 01:04:59,079
the Hebrew, that was the void without form. Is to

1049
01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:03,679
toe who baho who? That I probably butchered that. I'm

1050
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:06,360
Southern man. I can ratter speak English to be easy

1051
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:09,320
on me, guys, but it's something like that to tell

1052
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:12,800
who bobo who? And when you go into the Book

1053
01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:18,239
of Isaiah, it says in there that the Lord creates

1054
01:05:18,519 --> 01:05:24,119
nothing to tell who bybo who, He creates nothing null

1055
01:05:24,199 --> 01:05:28,639
and void, that he makes everything perfect, so that a

1056
01:05:28,719 --> 01:05:31,800
lot of people say that they think that he created

1057
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:35,320
the earth and it was perfect, but then you know

1058
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:38,000
there's this huge gap. It could be thousands of years,

1059
01:05:38,559 --> 01:05:41,880
and that could explain the age of the Earth being

1060
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:44,480
as old as it is, and that there was a

1061
01:05:44,679 --> 01:05:50,320
rebellion or turning over of the Angelic race or the

1062
01:05:50,559 --> 01:05:55,079
maybe a Preadamic race, and God destroyed it and hit

1063
01:05:55,119 --> 01:05:58,719
the reset button. And that's where verse two picks up

1064
01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:02,079
because it's now been made null and void from a

1065
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:08,440
galactic war or judgment, and he recreated and reconstituted everything.

1066
01:06:10,119 --> 01:06:15,159
Speaker 2: Wow, that's very interesting, and.

1067
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 1: Like you were saying, all those correlations too that I

1068
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:23,480
see with the LDS Church. I've been speaking with a

1069
01:06:23,559 --> 01:06:26,920
couple people that have come out of Mormonism and I've

1070
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:29,079
never really looked into their faith. It's a lot like

1071
01:06:29,239 --> 01:06:33,880
scientology according to them, and it sounds so much like

1072
01:06:34,039 --> 01:06:35,920
what you guys are saying, like we talked about at

1073
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:39,079
the beginning of the show, with a lot of this stuff,

1074
01:06:39,159 --> 01:06:44,039
you do get truths, but it's some of it's been

1075
01:06:44,119 --> 01:06:47,360
perverted and twisted, and it's usually the most important parts

1076
01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:51,320
that's been twisted and perverted. But in their faith they

1077
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:55,400
say that they are basically star children. They might not

1078
01:06:55,559 --> 01:06:59,239
use that exact kind of phrase and verbiage, but they

1079
01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:04,119
say that out there in outer space, uh, there's God Elohem,

1080
01:07:04,639 --> 01:07:08,360
and he's got his heavenly counsel on all of his children,

1081
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:17,360
and he sends their spirits to Earth, and there he

1082
01:07:17,719 --> 01:07:24,199
is having constant sex with all kinds of divine women

1083
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:29,320
in the outer space and creating star children. And if

1084
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:33,159
there's there's thousands, hundreds of thousands of millions of these

1085
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:38,840
souls of little babies that they're that he's having sex

1086
01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:42,559
and creating, but they don't have bodies. So his children

1087
01:07:43,559 --> 01:07:47,239
that are on Earth, it's basically like a prison planet.

1088
01:07:48,079 --> 01:07:50,960
And when you get married and you join the church,

1089
01:07:52,119 --> 01:07:55,400
all the babies that you create, they are lifeless bodies

1090
01:07:56,320 --> 01:08:00,199
for their vessels for these spirit babies that God has

1091
01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:05,360
created to enter. And that there was a divine rebellion

1092
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:11,800
and Lucifer was thrown down. But the ones that didn't

1093
01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:15,480
choose a side, that's tried to just stay neutral, didn't

1094
01:08:15,519 --> 01:08:20,720
choose a side. As a curse their skin was burnt.

1095
01:08:22,119 --> 01:08:25,840
So that explains why you have black people, brown people

1096
01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:29,600
and all that stuff, because they didn't choose a side,

1097
01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:32,680
and there and there they were cursed, so they're s Yeah,

1098
01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:38,000
it's wild and to get back to heaven. If you

1099
01:08:38,119 --> 01:08:40,520
do everything you're supposed to do here on this prison planet,

1100
01:08:41,359 --> 01:08:45,199
you become an eloheen. You become a god, and you're

1101
01:08:45,239 --> 01:08:49,239
giving your own planet, and you and your wife and

1102
01:08:49,399 --> 01:08:53,119
your children are the gods and rulers of this planet.

1103
01:08:53,399 --> 01:08:56,119
And you start another basically Earth, and you're the god

1104
01:08:56,199 --> 01:09:00,800
of that place. And see over it. Oh god, wow, wow,

1105
01:09:01,159 --> 01:09:04,960
And this and this is all been given supposedly to

1106
01:09:05,119 --> 01:09:09,600
Joseph Smith, and an angel an entity appeared to him

1107
01:09:10,199 --> 01:09:13,399
and give him a download and told him all.

1108
01:09:13,359 --> 01:09:18,319
Speaker 2: This stuff right right, Yeah, yes, I have heard some

1109
01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:22,079
of this, but not to that detail. Yeah, well it's

1110
01:09:22,159 --> 01:09:26,119
interesting all you know, all these other religions or.

1111
01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:28,840
Speaker 5: Ways to look at like.

1112
01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:32,880
Speaker 2: It, it's either you believe in God the creator, or

1113
01:09:33,039 --> 01:09:33,720
you believe that.

1114
01:09:35,359 --> 01:09:39,199
Speaker 5: We are gods or we have the ability to become

1115
01:09:39,279 --> 01:09:42,520
a god and and like that.

1116
01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:46,239
Speaker 2: That to me, the New Age is very focused on

1117
01:09:46,399 --> 01:09:50,840
that that we are all little gods and gods create

1118
01:09:51,079 --> 01:09:56,319
you know, which is it's a even I have. I

1119
01:09:56,359 --> 01:09:59,359
have Christian friends who have come from the New Age

1120
01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:03,000
that still like, you know, we'll refer to us as

1121
01:10:03,079 --> 01:10:05,840
little little g gods and little g gods.

1122
01:10:06,199 --> 01:10:07,920
Speaker 1: They're more gnostic Christians.

1123
01:10:08,279 --> 01:10:12,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm just like, I'm like, no, we are.

1124
01:10:13,039 --> 01:10:16,840
We are divine because we were made. God made us,

1125
01:10:17,119 --> 01:10:20,439
and we're special and we're beloved, but we are not

1126
01:10:21,199 --> 01:10:25,520
God's like. And that's where I think, you know that

1127
01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:27,640
it gets like twisted.

1128
01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:30,760
Speaker 1: You know. And that's the first lie Satan toad in

1129
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:32,800
the garden too. That's something maybe you can bring up

1130
01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:34,279
to him and they bring that up and be like, well,

1131
01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:36,640
isn't that the first thing Satan told Adam and Eve

1132
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:38,920
he shall be as gods?

1133
01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:39,720
Speaker 2: Right?

1134
01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:42,479
Speaker 1: That's the number one line trick, And that's what started

1135
01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:43,680
all this crap.

1136
01:10:46,239 --> 01:10:49,359
Speaker 2: And that's why I struggle to with. I have such

1137
01:10:49,399 --> 01:10:54,760
a quest for the first for knowledge, and I'm like,

1138
01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:57,439
you know what, I think we're not meant to know everything,

1139
01:10:57,920 --> 01:11:01,159
and so that it's like a big struggle I have

1140
01:11:01,359 --> 01:11:02,000
now It's.

1141
01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:03,479
Speaker 5: Like what am I meant to know with that?

1142
01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:06,119
Speaker 2: And what am I not meant to know? But I

1143
01:11:06,279 --> 01:11:12,119
do one thing I find very interesting is so many

1144
01:11:12,239 --> 01:11:16,279
New Agers are becoming Christian and it just it's just

1145
01:11:16,399 --> 01:11:20,560
continuing to happen. It's it's the norm now in my

1146
01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:22,960
world at least, I will just if I have a

1147
01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:27,199
one on one conversation with someone, you know, women friends

1148
01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:31,880
from the New Age world, they are so interested in

1149
01:11:32,279 --> 01:11:35,520
why I love Jesus so much and because they they

1150
01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:36,680
saw my journey in.

1151
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:37,279
Speaker 5: The New Age.

1152
01:11:37,319 --> 01:11:42,359
Speaker 2: And so I've had the experience with my women friends

1153
01:11:42,479 --> 01:11:45,960
just really opening up to it and asking a million questions,

1154
01:11:46,119 --> 01:11:48,760
Like every day I'm getting texts like, well, what about

1155
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:50,520
this and what about this? And I'm just I'm not

1156
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:52,920
an expert. So I was like praying to God to

1157
01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:54,239
give me wisdom, you know.

1158
01:11:56,359 --> 01:11:57,079
Speaker 5: But that's huge.

1159
01:11:57,119 --> 01:12:00,800
Speaker 2: But then also I've seen so many women that I

1160
01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:04,399
follow on social media or that I actually am friends

1161
01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:07,239
with that live across the country, that I'll touch face with,

1162
01:12:07,439 --> 01:12:09,640
and then you know, they'll just really like, oh, by

1163
01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:10,399
the way, I'm Christian.

1164
01:12:10,479 --> 01:12:13,039
Speaker 5: I'm like I am too. It's it's wild.

1165
01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:17,000
Speaker 2: I just and you know, as the times are getting

1166
01:12:17,119 --> 01:12:21,239
crazier and more people are seeing we tease orbs like

1167
01:12:21,359 --> 01:12:25,239
those demon faces you've heard of that right where they

1168
01:12:25,319 --> 01:12:27,920
they're trying to normalize that there's a new disorder that

1169
01:12:28,039 --> 01:12:35,079
people see demon bases Google that one people. The world's

1170
01:12:35,079 --> 01:12:38,319
getting more and more wild, and more and more people

1171
01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:41,479
are turning into Christ. I just it's it's a wild

1172
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:42,439
time to be alive.

1173
01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:49,039
Speaker 1: Yeah it is. And you know you're was really into

1174
01:12:49,359 --> 01:12:52,800
you know, astrology and astronomy and stuff like that, and

1175
01:12:53,039 --> 01:12:55,720
that's something that you do see in the Bible. But

1176
01:12:55,880 --> 01:12:58,520
like you talked about earlier, it's that line you know

1177
01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:03,680
to know you know where to stop at, and the

1178
01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:05,840
Great Deceee for likes to twist it and blur that

1179
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:08,800
line and pull you past it and make you fall

1180
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:11,279
off the edge, because I mean it says and you

1181
01:13:11,359 --> 01:13:13,960
know he hung the moon, stars and all that in

1182
01:13:14,039 --> 01:13:16,680
the in the firmament for signs and for seasons. You

1183
01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:18,960
know you're supposed to look up and look at these things.

1184
01:13:19,039 --> 01:13:22,359
But it's kind of like Paul said, we made the

1185
01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:25,159
mistake and we traded the truth for a lie, and

1186
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we worshiped the created things instead of the creator. And

1187
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I think the same thing with crystals and stones and herbs.

1188
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All these things are things that God created, and I

1189
01:13:38,319 --> 01:13:43,119
think He created us to use them and even with

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01:13:43,239 --> 01:13:45,920
the stones. You got the twelve stones in the e

1191
01:13:46,159 --> 01:13:50,000
Fod and the Umim and Thummim, and God gives commandments

1192
01:13:50,079 --> 01:13:54,359
on how to use them. It's just they got perverted.

1193
01:13:55,119 --> 01:13:57,840
And it's just it's all about the heart and how

1194
01:13:57,920 --> 01:14:04,199
you what your intentions are, not worshiping these useful tools

1195
01:14:04,359 --> 01:14:06,720
that God gave us to use for our benefit and

1196
01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:09,600
put the power in those created things instead of Him

1197
01:14:10,119 --> 01:14:10,960
right right.

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Speaker 2: And giving things to God for the herbs that you know,

1199
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help us with our coughs or whatever humans we have with.

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01:14:21,159 --> 01:14:25,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you think there's a ruler or principality because

1201
01:14:25,359 --> 01:14:27,640
how Paul talks about you know, we battle not against

1202
01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:31,399
flesh and blood, but against rulers, principalities, and spiritual wickedness

1203
01:14:31,439 --> 01:14:36,359
in high places. And I really am fascinated with the

1204
01:14:36,399 --> 01:14:40,279
whole Deuteronomy thirty two worldview. You know, not only were

1205
01:14:40,439 --> 01:14:44,359
the tongues divided, but mankind was divided amongst the sons

1206
01:14:44,439 --> 01:14:47,239
of God. You know, and you get into Psalms eighty two.

1207
01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:50,640
That's the judgment to those guys is how long will

1208
01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:53,840
you rule unjustly? You know, showing partiality of the wicked

1209
01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:56,880
you desire to live the eternal life, but you shall

1210
01:14:57,039 --> 01:14:59,880
fall and die like any prince. And you see him

1211
01:14:59,880 --> 01:15:03,600
in Daniel. And that explains a lot of the evil

1212
01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:05,920
in the world today because a lot of non believers

1213
01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:09,680
will use, you know, all the wicked and unjust things

1214
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:12,159
going on today and say, well, your God's not real

1215
01:15:12,279 --> 01:15:15,479
or he's just real shitty god. Because look at all

1216
01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:18,399
of this this stuff going on. It's like, now you're

1217
01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:22,760
lacking the Deuteronomy two worldview. Here there's following sons of

1218
01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:26,399
God ruling over the nation still. But when I looked

1219
01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:29,319
at astrology, you know, astronomy, it's like you are putting

1220
01:15:29,439 --> 01:15:36,720
your yourself under the dominion of these with the Greeks

1221
01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:41,479
called gods. You know, these stars were gods and you're

1222
01:15:41,560 --> 01:15:42,720
yoking yourself to them.

1223
01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:51,439
Speaker 2: And and that's I the last like real astrology talk

1224
01:15:51,479 --> 01:15:55,279
I had with somebody. The woman was saying how she

1225
01:15:55,560 --> 01:16:01,399
was living in a Saturn near she practiced Vedic astrology,

1226
01:16:01,439 --> 01:16:06,800
which is different. It's it's you know, from India, and

1227
01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:09,439
it goes a lot with all with all the gods

1228
01:16:09,479 --> 01:16:13,479
and goddesses that they have. But she was saying she

1229
01:16:13,560 --> 01:16:16,399
was in a Saturn year, and saturns in astrology very

1230
01:16:16,520 --> 01:16:20,439
restrictive and puts up barriers, et cetera. And she's like,

1231
01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:23,279
and so I can't take advantage of she she was

1232
01:16:23,319 --> 01:16:25,279
excited about this opportunity, but she was telling me she

1233
01:16:25,279 --> 01:16:26,840
couldn't take advantage of it because she was in a

1234
01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:31,960
saddurn year. And I was like, I was, I'm like, wow,

1235
01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:37,000
you are just giving your power away to this entity.

1236
01:16:37,079 --> 01:16:41,479
And I really believe the planets have entities associated with them,

1237
01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:42,800
Like I don't know if it's just one.

1238
01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:45,239
Speaker 5: I think they are principalities.

1239
01:16:45,319 --> 01:16:48,319
Speaker 2: I think at one point God had them in charge

1240
01:16:48,359 --> 01:16:51,079
and they're still in charge, but they, you know, have

1241
01:16:51,239 --> 01:16:56,760
fallen as well. And I think, you know, I'm still

1242
01:16:56,840 --> 01:16:58,760
diving into the Bible all those things that you said,

1243
01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:02,399
like i've read, but I have, and like it's still

1244
01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:06,000
so much information for me right now and it's very affirming.

1245
01:17:07,119 --> 01:17:11,399
But you know, in astrology too, there's there's planets rule

1246
01:17:11,479 --> 01:17:16,119
over different areas of the world where you live. There's

1247
01:17:16,159 --> 01:17:19,920
a whole type of astrology that's related to that. And

1248
01:17:20,079 --> 01:17:24,439
I still have a lot of astrology and knowledge in

1249
01:17:24,520 --> 01:17:26,479
my head, even though I don't practice it and I

1250
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:29,479
don't look it up all the time now, and I

1251
01:17:29,640 --> 01:17:31,920
just pray to God. I'm like, you are greater than

1252
01:17:33,439 --> 01:17:36,119
you know, those entities that are here now, So like

1253
01:17:36,920 --> 01:17:39,199
I know that if you want something to happen me

1254
01:17:39,359 --> 01:17:41,960
or will be done and not there will. I really

1255
01:17:42,039 --> 01:17:46,600
believe that they're real, just because hundreds and hundreds of

1256
01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:53,640
charts in my own life too. You know, it's really interesting.

1257
01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:56,479
I think this world is so much more supernatural than

1258
01:17:57,119 --> 01:17:58,239
we can even imagine.

1259
01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:03,239
Speaker 1: And that's the thing lends. I mean, you got a gift,

1260
01:18:03,479 --> 01:18:06,279
you got that knowledge base, and you have a different

1261
01:18:06,319 --> 01:18:10,560
set of glasses that most people don't have. So I'm

1262
01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:15,479
honestly excited to consider you a friend and have you

1263
01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:20,199
in my circle because when you're going to be diving

1264
01:18:20,239 --> 01:18:22,399
through that Bible and going through this stuff, you're going

1265
01:18:22,439 --> 01:18:23,800
to be seeing it with a new set of eyes,

1266
01:18:23,880 --> 01:18:25,720
the set of eyes that I don't have, and a

1267
01:18:25,800 --> 01:18:27,960
knowledge base that I don't have. So I'm excited to

1268
01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:31,880
see what you find because I'm no expert, you know,

1269
01:18:31,960 --> 01:18:35,680
at anything, but especially the astrology and the astronomy side

1270
01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:38,079
of it. But I've seen all kinds of stuff like

1271
01:18:38,159 --> 01:18:41,319
that in there, and it talks about you know, Jesus saying,

1272
01:18:41,319 --> 01:18:42,880
you know, I will be with you until the end

1273
01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:45,000
of the age. You know, an age that's you know,

1274
01:18:45,119 --> 01:18:50,039
twenty six hundred years and it's and it's like you

1275
01:18:50,159 --> 01:18:53,600
have all this symbology of the ram during the time

1276
01:18:53,680 --> 01:18:57,479
of Moses, and then you move into Pisces. You know,

1277
01:18:57,680 --> 01:19:01,399
Jesus his birth brought in the age of Ices, and

1278
01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:04,399
then we are now coming to the end of Pisces,

1279
01:19:04,479 --> 01:19:07,359
and the next one after that is Aquarius. And the

1280
01:19:07,399 --> 01:19:10,520
Book of Revelation tells us in the end of days,

1281
01:19:10,600 --> 01:19:15,000
I will pour out my flesh or pour out my

1282
01:19:15,079 --> 01:19:19,319
spirit upon all flesh. And was it say knowledge will increase,

1283
01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:23,720
the old men will have dreams, and the young men

1284
01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:26,960
will prophesy. And like you said earlier, we're living in

1285
01:19:26,960 --> 01:19:33,640
an extraordinary time. Knowledge is definitely increasing. People are starting

1286
01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:37,640
to prophesy and have dreams. The skies are lighting up

1287
01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:41,960
with orbs and entities and get more cryptid sightings. I

1288
01:19:42,039 --> 01:19:46,960
mean this. I know every generation since the time Jesus

1289
01:19:47,079 --> 01:19:49,000
left has said, you know, the end is near. The

1290
01:19:49,159 --> 01:19:52,880
end is near, but we're definitely closer than we was.

1291
01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:55,720
You know, yesterday.

1292
01:19:57,119 --> 01:20:03,119
Speaker 2: My mother was reused Jehovah's witness, and so I she

1293
01:20:03,279 --> 01:20:05,760
became a Christian. When I was a toddler, so I

1294
01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:10,479
don't remember it, but she tells me stories from her childhood,

1295
01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:13,680
and that's I've been very wary my whole life of

1296
01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:17,039
thinking that the end is near because of you know,

1297
01:20:17,119 --> 01:20:20,439
how she was they You know, she had so much

1298
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:24,760
trauma from its ending almost every day, right, and also

1299
01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:28,199
only a certain amount of can get into heaven. It's

1300
01:20:28,279 --> 01:20:36,640
not you know, but I when I got called back

1301
01:20:36,760 --> 01:20:41,159
to God and I had that very strong conversation with him,

1302
01:20:42,600 --> 01:20:45,119
I didn't have any Bibles in my house anymore. I

1303
01:20:45,199 --> 01:20:48,000
had gotten rid of like all of that, and I

1304
01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:54,880
I that happened to me a few days before I

1305
01:20:55,000 --> 01:20:57,840
went to go visit my family. I have a very

1306
01:20:57,920 --> 01:21:02,039
large family in New York, and I got invited very

1307
01:21:02,159 --> 01:21:05,079
last minute to stay with my aunt and uncle. And

1308
01:21:05,239 --> 01:21:08,359
my aunt when I got there, was like, I invited

1309
01:21:08,399 --> 01:21:14,159
you last minute because I didn't feel comfortable with you

1310
01:21:14,239 --> 01:21:18,439
coming because of all your pagan tendencies. She's super Christian,

1311
01:21:18,720 --> 01:21:21,920
and I was like, oh, this is so funny. And

1312
01:21:22,199 --> 01:21:24,079
I just like started crying and I was like, this

1313
01:21:24,279 --> 01:21:28,439
is so crazy that I'm staying with you. And she

1314
01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:30,479
went and got me. I told her that I was

1315
01:21:30,920 --> 01:21:33,079
you know that I came back and she went and

1316
01:21:33,119 --> 01:21:36,319
got me a Bible and it was, you know, a

1317
01:21:36,399 --> 01:21:39,479
really emotional moment. And I went into the bedroom when

1318
01:21:39,479 --> 01:21:42,119
I said good night that night and I having my

1319
01:21:42,279 --> 01:21:45,279
Tarot tendencies, I was like, God, this is the first

1320
01:21:45,319 --> 01:21:48,039
time I'm opening a Bible and I don't know how long,

1321
01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:51,880
Like show me the verse I need to know, right,

1322
01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:57,880
and I yeah, I'm like llah, I stopped me. But

1323
01:21:58,359 --> 01:22:04,079
I opened up to Revelations twelve. I'm an astrologer, like,

1324
01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:08,239
I could not believe it. And I opened it up

1325
01:22:09,640 --> 01:22:11,319
and I read it, and I was like, oh my god,

1326
01:22:11,359 --> 01:22:14,279
this is so full of symbolism to me. It was

1327
01:22:14,399 --> 01:22:19,039
clearly around a new moon in Virgo, you know. And

1328
01:22:19,319 --> 01:22:21,680
it took me a long time to realize that the

1329
01:22:21,880 --> 01:22:27,159
crown was refrained to Israel and just you know, I'm

1330
01:22:27,199 --> 01:22:30,560
gonna butcher it again because I'm not an expert. But

1331
01:22:30,680 --> 01:22:33,439
I was going crazy, just like why would God show

1332
01:22:33,479 --> 01:22:33,680
me that?

1333
01:22:33,840 --> 01:22:34,399
Speaker 5: Why would God?

1334
01:22:35,159 --> 01:22:37,560
Speaker 2: Why would I open the Revelations? Like out of all

1335
01:22:37,680 --> 01:22:41,079
the you know, crazy wild things that happened in that

1336
01:22:41,439 --> 01:22:44,800
people Christians don't even agree on what it means, you know.

1337
01:22:45,640 --> 01:22:50,600
Speaker 1: And it's beautiful because it's that's the birth of Jesus.

1338
01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:54,039
That's the sign in the heavens. I believe that was

1339
01:22:54,319 --> 01:22:57,159
the birth of Jesus. And who's the ones that's seen it?

1340
01:22:57,800 --> 01:22:57,960
Speaker 2: Right?

1341
01:22:58,119 --> 01:23:00,600
Speaker 1: The magic the astrology.

1342
01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:03,760
Speaker 2: Right right, right?

1343
01:23:03,880 --> 01:23:04,159
Speaker 6: I did.

1344
01:23:04,279 --> 01:23:07,600
Speaker 2: I turned to that, and to me, it felt like

1345
01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:11,439
it was talking about a second coming, and which I

1346
01:23:11,560 --> 01:23:14,640
know in the Bible, like every everything has more than

1347
01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:18,520
one meeting. I think, like, you know that there's a

1348
01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:22,319
spiritual and the physical and then the metaphorical, and you know,

1349
01:23:22,680 --> 01:23:27,199
things happened more than once, you know. But I was

1350
01:23:27,359 --> 01:23:30,359
I was very confused, and I just kind of I'm like,

1351
01:23:30,439 --> 01:23:33,760
I can't obsess about this. I decided to put it away.

1352
01:23:34,720 --> 01:23:37,760
And then the next week after I came home from

1353
01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:43,079
the family trip, my friend who was a new Christian

1354
01:23:44,159 --> 01:23:46,880
who before I became a Christian kind of I noticed

1355
01:23:46,920 --> 01:23:49,760
her before it came back to being a Christian. I

1356
01:23:49,840 --> 01:23:52,319
was like, oh, it's so interesting that she's a Christian.

1357
01:23:52,359 --> 01:23:53,960
And I kind of kept her a little bit of

1358
01:23:54,119 --> 01:23:56,840
bay because I don't because I had I thought to

1359
01:23:57,039 --> 01:23:58,119
judge me in my ways.

1360
01:23:58,239 --> 01:23:58,399
Speaker 1: You know.

1361
01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:03,319
Speaker 2: She randmly comes into my shop for the first time,

1362
01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:07,079
like since I've been open, and she's like Lindsay. She's like,

1363
01:24:07,159 --> 01:24:11,680
you're an astrologer, what do you think about Revelations twelve

1364
01:24:11,800 --> 01:24:13,720
and what's happening in the sky right now?

1365
01:24:14,319 --> 01:24:16,760
Speaker 5: And I'm like, like, what are the chances?

1366
01:24:17,079 --> 01:24:17,199
Speaker 3: Right?

1367
01:24:17,479 --> 01:24:20,560
Speaker 1: Like, what was that twenty sixteen or eighteen when we

1368
01:24:20,640 --> 01:24:22,359
had that conjunction come back again?

1369
01:24:22,880 --> 01:24:26,479
Speaker 2: So that was I know this. So first of all,

1370
01:24:26,520 --> 01:24:32,000
this was last year, last early September twenty twenty three.

1371
01:24:33,039 --> 01:24:38,199
And the first one that they everyone was really excited

1372
01:24:38,199 --> 01:24:42,399
about was like all the planets were converging on the

1373
01:24:42,520 --> 01:24:45,720
crown and it looks Jupiter was between the legs of

1374
01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:46,199
the Virgin.

1375
01:24:47,119 --> 01:24:50,560
Speaker 1: So they called it a supernova the three together or something.

1376
01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:54,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I can't remember because I like kind of

1377
01:24:54,159 --> 01:24:58,920
discredited that. But the one that happened last year, it

1378
01:24:59,079 --> 01:25:03,479
wasn't in the content stellation Virgo, but visually the Child

1379
01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:06,359
asteroid was between the legs of the Virgin.

1380
01:25:06,520 --> 01:25:07,680
Speaker 5: Right when I was like.

1381
01:25:09,359 --> 01:25:12,079
Speaker 2: Talking to my friend about that, reading about that there

1382
01:25:12,159 --> 01:25:14,000
was literally an asteroid named Child.

1383
01:25:16,439 --> 01:25:19,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, and so I was like what And then I

1384
01:25:19,479 --> 01:25:23,119
went down this huge rabbit hole and.

1385
01:25:25,239 --> 01:25:29,159
Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, I'm so not a biblical expert, but

1386
01:25:29,279 --> 01:25:31,840
I was like, I told there's three people in my

1387
01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:36,760
life that are a Christian and understand astrology, which I

1388
01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:40,079
think it's really hard to find the two because most

1389
01:25:40,159 --> 01:25:47,279
Christians won't even dabble on that, right, and I you know,

1390
01:25:47,560 --> 01:25:49,119
I think there's a lot of truth for that. But

1391
01:25:49,239 --> 01:25:53,920
then on the other side, astrologers like think Christians are crazy,

1392
01:25:54,119 --> 01:25:57,920
you know, because they won't whatever. So I was like,

1393
01:25:59,079 --> 01:26:01,880
if revelation is real and it's like a real road map,

1394
01:26:02,439 --> 01:26:06,000
like I feel like the next step is like soon,

1395
01:26:06,239 --> 01:26:08,920
like very soon, like within the next few weeks, something

1396
01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:13,239
really big will happen in Israel. And then forgot about that,

1397
01:26:13,399 --> 01:26:17,920
and then October ninth happened, and then I was like, okay.

1398
01:26:17,600 --> 01:26:20,800
Speaker 5: Maybe that was like a fluke, like that's huge, right

1399
01:26:20,920 --> 01:26:21,560
that happened.

1400
01:26:22,079 --> 01:26:26,960
Speaker 2: And then I was like, well again I'm not good

1401
01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:29,960
at deciphering all this Bible stuff and all this symbology.

1402
01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:32,560
I was like, but my like, one thing, this will

1403
01:26:32,640 --> 01:26:38,000
never happen if like Russia and Syria get involved, then

1404
01:26:38,359 --> 01:26:40,640
then it's definitely literal. And then like you know what

1405
01:26:40,680 --> 01:26:42,159
I mean, like I keep going down the steps, and

1406
01:26:42,199 --> 01:26:43,760
then I like second guessed myself.

1407
01:26:44,359 --> 01:26:45,119
Speaker 1: I I.

1408
01:26:47,640 --> 01:26:48,680
Speaker 5: Without all that.

1409
01:26:50,399 --> 01:26:56,600
Speaker 2: Revelations stuff, and like correlating to real world events today

1410
01:26:57,680 --> 01:27:00,960
and as being pois for the first time, I'm in

1411
01:27:01,119 --> 01:27:03,439
human history as we know it. I know, I feel

1412
01:27:03,479 --> 01:27:05,319
like a lot of stuff we've learned, isn't it true?

1413
01:27:05,359 --> 01:27:08,479
When they've erased a lot of truth? But like as

1414
01:27:08,560 --> 01:27:11,840
we know it, it's the first time ever that there

1415
01:27:11,880 --> 01:27:14,520
could be a one world government right where we could

1416
01:27:15,439 --> 01:27:20,000
be under mass surveillance, like the people are excited about,

1417
01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:25,359
like Elon Musk giving us free Internet, like like that's terrifying.

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We're gonna like constantly be connected no matter where you

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are in the world, like like how I don't know.

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But besides all that, like Mike gut Just and all

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01:27:38,279 --> 01:27:41,319
the people being called back like overnight to Christ, it

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01:27:41,439 --> 01:27:46,239
just feels like something's imminute. And on top of that,

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01:27:46,479 --> 01:27:47,840
you know, I don't know if you've heard this, that

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01:27:47,960 --> 01:27:52,399
there's where in the last you believe of the two

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01:27:52,520 --> 01:27:55,239
thousand years or whatever? Have you heard of this?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've heard some people, yes say something about the

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being possibly the last jubilee, And I'm not take a

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01:28:04,840 --> 01:28:05,560
deep dive on it.

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01:28:06,279 --> 01:28:11,279
Speaker 2: So I suppose I think, and I don't remember the words,

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but there's two thousand year chunks right in the Bible,

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and so we're in the last jubilee of the of

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01:28:18,159 --> 01:28:23,279
the two thousand chunks, and Jesus supposedly came back during

1433
01:28:23,319 --> 01:28:26,600
the last jubilee of the previous two thousand year chunk,

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and so a lot of people are you know, a

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01:28:31,279 --> 01:28:33,279
lot of people are talking. I'm sure Christians have been

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01:28:33,319 --> 01:28:35,159
talking about this forever, because it's all new to me

1437
01:28:35,600 --> 01:28:38,079
and like exciting, you know, and I'm just like jumping in.

1438
01:28:38,199 --> 01:28:40,119
I'm like, here's my opinion when people have been like

1439
01:28:40,279 --> 01:28:43,920
arguing forever, like when Jesus is coming back, but it

1440
01:28:45,119 --> 01:28:47,800
feels like it's soon. And I also, one thing that

1441
01:28:47,920 --> 01:28:51,520
keeps popping out to me is how many Christians are

1442
01:28:51,640 --> 01:28:56,800
going to be fooled when the anti gricepends. And I

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01:28:56,960 --> 01:29:00,119
just it's just like in my head and I know,

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01:29:01,279 --> 01:29:04,520
I just don't feel like we should give all our

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01:29:04,720 --> 01:29:09,560
hope and into any man that exists summer today.

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Speaker 1: But that's one thing. I did an episode with some

1447
01:29:13,560 --> 01:29:18,279
guys and I've lightly looked into the UFO phenomenon and stuff,

1448
01:29:19,079 --> 01:29:22,399
but they wanted to talk about the drones over New

1449
01:29:22,479 --> 01:29:25,920
Jersey and what you know, we thought about it, and

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01:29:26,039 --> 01:29:28,399
they knew that I was a Christian and not come

1451
01:29:28,479 --> 01:29:30,960
at it with a Christian lens. So they just asked

1452
01:29:31,000 --> 01:29:34,199
me to come on the show for that different perspective.

1453
01:29:34,800 --> 01:29:36,760
So I just kind of did some light reading and

1454
01:29:37,279 --> 01:29:41,520
looked into Project Bluebean. And I've always heard people talk

1455
01:29:41,560 --> 01:29:44,079
about it, but I never really looked into it, And

1456
01:29:44,199 --> 01:29:47,239
that was the first time I looked into it. And

1457
01:29:47,640 --> 01:29:50,760
the only thing I knew was the government's going to

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01:29:51,479 --> 01:29:55,039
do a fake light show and trick everybody into thinking

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01:29:55,079 --> 01:29:57,560
it's aliens, but it's really not. That was just kind

1460
01:29:57,640 --> 01:30:00,800
of my interpretation or understand of it. But when I

1461
01:30:00,920 --> 01:30:04,399
looked it up, it was like this really ornate four

1462
01:30:04,520 --> 01:30:11,720
stage process, and it says that first NASA's gonna make

1463
01:30:11,760 --> 01:30:19,680
an earthquake or some kind of catastrophe, and through that catastrophe, uh,

1464
01:30:19,800 --> 01:30:24,439
there's gonna be new archaeological finds that they supposedly plant

1465
01:30:25,520 --> 01:30:30,479
that shakes the faith of everyone on planet Earth. And

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01:30:30,600 --> 01:30:37,319
then after that they're gonna put drones or lights in

1467
01:30:37,359 --> 01:30:40,560
the sky, but they're gonna put messiah figures of all

1468
01:30:40,600 --> 01:30:45,680
the different world religions, and then all those different messiahs

1469
01:30:45,720 --> 01:30:50,439
are going to converge into one and basically tell everybody.

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01:30:51,600 --> 01:30:51,880
Speaker 4: It's me.

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01:30:52,000 --> 01:30:52,279
Speaker 2: It's me.

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Speaker 1: These were just finger puppets the whole time, and I'm

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01:30:55,880 --> 01:31:00,119
the real one. So everybody come to me now. And

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01:31:00,279 --> 01:31:06,279
then uh, there's wuld be a huge uh war with

1475
01:31:06,439 --> 01:31:08,880
aliens that come in this guy because they're gonna they're

1476
01:31:08,880 --> 01:31:13,760
gonna portray aliens like an invasion. And then through this

1477
01:31:14,079 --> 01:31:17,720
all the world governments are going to unite and it's

1478
01:31:17,760 --> 01:31:21,199
going to be a global disarmament and a one world government,

1479
01:31:21,640 --> 01:31:25,880
a one world religion. And that that was the the

1480
01:31:25,960 --> 01:31:30,720
whole plan supposedly of Project Bluebean. But it sounds a

1481
01:31:31,880 --> 01:31:35,279
whole lot like revelation, you know, it really does.

1482
01:31:35,800 --> 01:31:37,920
Speaker 5: And it seems like it's ramping up.

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01:31:40,039 --> 01:31:43,720
Speaker 2: With the with the drones that are confleeting with forts,

1484
01:31:44,960 --> 01:31:47,279
like right, so I think there's like some real things

1485
01:31:47,319 --> 01:31:54,039
flying around, and then the government drones which are also

1486
01:31:54,600 --> 01:31:56,199
everyone's saying they're coming from the ocean.

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Speaker 1: Now. Yeah, so I told them, guys, I said, I

1488
01:32:01,159 --> 01:32:07,479
think some of it is demonic and filling angels. Some

1489
01:32:07,680 --> 01:32:11,479
of it quite possibly could be good angels and good entities,

1490
01:32:12,560 --> 01:32:16,079
I said. But then we have a third leg and

1491
01:32:16,399 --> 01:32:20,399
intertwined in all this, and that is the world government's

1492
01:32:21,960 --> 01:32:25,640
reverse engineered technology that these fallen angels had given.

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01:32:25,399 --> 01:32:30,800
Speaker 2: To them, right, yeah, right, yeah, And I think like

1494
01:32:31,000 --> 01:32:34,079
as new Christians are people that are overwhelmed, and I

1495
01:32:34,239 --> 01:32:38,640
keep coming back to us too, Like the way you

1496
01:32:38,800 --> 01:32:42,840
know is that they declared Jesus as king. Are like,

1497
01:32:42,960 --> 01:32:45,640
is Jesus king to all these religious you know?

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01:32:45,960 --> 01:32:46,079
Speaker 1: Right?

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01:32:46,159 --> 01:32:46,880
Speaker 5: It's that simple?

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Speaker 2: I think. Yeah.

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01:32:50,840 --> 01:32:54,199
Speaker 1: Well, Lindsey, I know you got to get to get

1502
01:32:54,239 --> 01:32:56,239
to those young AND's and got some stuff you got

1503
01:32:56,359 --> 01:32:59,640
to do. But is there anything that you want to

1504
01:32:59,680 --> 01:33:03,319
say closing, any kind of message to the listeners or

1505
01:33:03,359 --> 01:33:05,560
any kind of closing statement that you'd like to make.

1506
01:33:07,920 --> 01:33:09,800
Speaker 2: Well, thank you for having me on. I love your

1507
01:33:09,880 --> 01:33:12,479
show and it's fun to get to know you.

1508
01:33:14,279 --> 01:33:18,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I guess just my wish for everyone.

1509
01:33:18,640 --> 01:33:22,199
Speaker 2: I think your base is probably mostly Christian that it

1510
01:33:22,279 --> 01:33:27,960
is just that you know, everyone feels the love and

1511
01:33:28,319 --> 01:33:32,760
peace and acceptance and not needing to search and dive

1512
01:33:32,840 --> 01:33:37,359
into all these things because they found Jesus. And with

1513
01:33:37,560 --> 01:33:40,760
everything I've experienced and been through and all the questions

1514
01:33:40,840 --> 01:33:44,359
I have, it's like the only place I can rest.

1515
01:33:44,560 --> 01:33:46,319
And I just wish that for everyone.

1516
01:33:49,920 --> 01:33:54,800
Speaker 1: And I know you had mentioned that you're into verbalization.

1517
01:33:55,439 --> 01:33:59,560
Do you do like tantures and home remedies and stuff

1518
01:33:59,640 --> 01:34:02,960
like that. And if you do, can our listeners find

1519
01:34:03,000 --> 01:34:06,760
this online and play some orders. Can you direct the

1520
01:34:06,800 --> 01:34:10,319
good listeners to find some of your your home remedies?

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01:34:10,640 --> 01:34:12,039
Speaker 5: I would that's very sweet of you.

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01:34:12,159 --> 01:34:12,439
Speaker 2: Thank you.

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01:34:12,920 --> 01:34:14,439
Speaker 5: Yes, I have a website.

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01:34:14,520 --> 01:34:20,239
Speaker 2: It's z Botanicals dot net and yeah, I make I

1525
01:34:20,399 --> 01:34:26,119
make everything from beauty products to tinctures and cheese and saves,

1526
01:34:26,279 --> 01:34:29,960
and I grow all my own herbs that I used

1527
01:34:30,079 --> 01:34:32,319
as well. Thank you.

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01:34:32,680 --> 01:34:36,439
Speaker 1: How much are you love potions? I like the number nine.

1529
01:34:36,680 --> 01:34:38,279
I love potion number nine.

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01:34:41,600 --> 01:34:42,560
Speaker 5: I'll send you a link.

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01:34:44,920 --> 01:34:47,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a nineties reference for all the people out

1532
01:34:47,720 --> 01:34:52,960
there that that totally went over their head. Lindsay, I

1533
01:34:53,119 --> 01:34:56,640
appreciate you coming on and sharing your testimony, and UH

1534
01:34:57,359 --> 01:35:01,039
love to have you back. Maybe we can and go through,

1535
01:35:01,479 --> 01:35:05,319
uh some of the astronomical stuff in the Bible and

1536
01:35:05,760 --> 01:35:08,479
kind of get your expertise on that stuff. That'd be

1537
01:35:08,640 --> 01:35:09,600
that'd be a fun show.

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01:35:09,960 --> 01:35:10,640
Speaker 5: That'd be awesome.

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01:35:11,399 --> 01:35:15,680
Speaker 1: Sweet. Well, guys, thank you for tuning in. I hope

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01:35:15,680 --> 01:35:18,319
you enjoyed that. Be sure to head on over. I'll

1541
01:35:18,359 --> 01:35:21,720
have her link in the description for her shop. Head

1542
01:35:21,760 --> 01:35:23,800
on over and get you some love potions and some

1543
01:35:24,279 --> 01:35:31,680
good remedies, non witchy remedies. We guys, thank you for

1544
01:35:31,760 --> 01:35:34,520
tuning in and as always a difference between the known

1545
01:35:34,800 --> 01:35:39,800
and the unknown is the journey. It's a good journey, guys.

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Speaker 6: Dot st star start