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<v Speaker 1>This is the seventy seven WABC Mini cast.

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<v Speaker 2>Walter Sterling, Oh what and Doctor Sky? Doctor Sky. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>the reason doctor Sky is on with us is because

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<v Speaker 2>he needs a cover. He's deep in the woods of

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<v Speaker 2>the Southwest, as many witness protection people are. His name

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<v Speaker 2>changes fairly regularly, and doctor Sky spells his name with

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<v Speaker 2>an E at the end. Yet he's not Polish. Good morning, Walter,

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<v Speaker 2>doctor Sky. You're on today because there are three enormous

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<v Speaker 2>astronomical events. Doctor Sky's a weekend host, which is in

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<v Speaker 2>radio p jarreative term, but in fact, Casey Caseum was

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<v Speaker 2>a weekend host, and I think you should view yourself

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<v Speaker 2>in the same league with Casey Caseum, another weekend host.

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<v Speaker 2>Doctor Sky.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, thank you very much. Good to be with you.

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<v Speaker 1>There are a lot of activity. Is we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>be talking.

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<v Speaker 2>He earned six million dollars a year at ABC. To

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<v Speaker 2>have a point of reference at your next negotiation with

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<v Speaker 2>the catsmetides now, yeah, but maybe they'll throw in coupons

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<v Speaker 2>and beans, you know, goya beans, the whole package, gift

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<v Speaker 2>package of goia beans. Now listen, thank you, you're darn

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<v Speaker 2>right you do. Now listen. There are three major celestial

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<v Speaker 2>events and doctor Sky is an expert on obviously sky things,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's brilliant at it. He gets the best guests

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<v Speaker 2>about it. I hope you listen to him on the

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<v Speaker 2>weekends because you won't have a better time. But something

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<v Speaker 2>amazing happened on the Moon yesterday and right now if

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<v Speaker 2>you look up, there's spectacular gifts from the universe. So

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<v Speaker 2>please let's start on the moon. Doctor's guy, go ahead,

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<v Speaker 2>Ye Walter. As we mentioned before, and we had the

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<v Speaker 2>other interview earlier in the week, we were all expecting

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<v Speaker 2>big things, the big boom on the Moon, and in

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<v Speaker 2>case people are just tuning in and never heard about this,

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<v Speaker 2>space intentionally had a large booster the upper stage of

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<v Speaker 2>what they call it the alpha stage. It's about forty

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<v Speaker 2>five feet long by twelve feet wide. And though it's

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<v Speaker 2>history right now, there was a impact with that particular body.

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<v Speaker 2>At around two thirty five am Eastern daylfetime, a day ago.

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<v Speaker 2>I was out with the big telescope, and many people

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<v Speaker 2>who have telescopes understand that you really need to set

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<v Speaker 2>these things up ahead of time. I was looking at

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<v Speaker 2>the Moon at exactly the moment here in these very

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<v Speaker 2>horrible temperatures that we're having in the southwestern in Phoenix

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<v Speaker 2>through partial monsoon clouds. So the report I can give

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<v Speaker 2>you on the other side of midnight is I saw nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>How about that for honesty. But it's interesting because I

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<v Speaker 2>doubt it from the beginning that you would see any

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<v Speaker 2>kind of a flare, and the media was talking about

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<v Speaker 2>the possibility of this, and we're now confirming nothing was

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<v Speaker 2>actually seen. Now I have people that have emailed me

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<v Speaker 2>things and they say, look, I have an image from

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<v Speaker 2>another telescope, and look at this bump doctor Sky on

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<v Speaker 2>the side edge of the moon, exactly where the impact is.

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<v Speaker 2>And I can tell you, Walter in the audience, from

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<v Speaker 2>observing the moon for so long, there is a bump

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<v Speaker 2>where there was a bump on the edge.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the moon. And what we were seeing is a

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<v Speaker 1>very rare sight. It's a mountain region on the left

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<v Speaker 1>edge of the moon that we rarely never get to see.

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<v Speaker 1>It's called the Rook Mountains, and it's part of a

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<v Speaker 1>basin called the Oriental. The orient pisint Now, if you

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<v Speaker 1>hold your hand and have your fingers straight up, and

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<v Speaker 1>don't do this if your driving, if you hold that

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<v Speaker 1>hand and just tilt it a little to the left

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<v Speaker 1>and the right. The Moon occasionally gives us a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit further view, either view of east or west of

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<v Speaker 1>the Moon. So that's what people were seeing. So no confirmed,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, explosive material from the Moon, no ejecta. But

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<v Speaker 1>yet there's a spacecraft called Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter that's actually

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<v Speaker 1>going to look and see the exact location where this

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<v Speaker 1>impact occurred and show us. The whole purpose was to

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<v Speaker 1>see what happens when a body like that is intentionally

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<v Speaker 1>smashed into the Moon, what sized craters are created. So

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<v Speaker 1>the best is yet to come from the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, doctor skuy, you were looking with a high powered

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<v Speaker 2>telescope and very trained eye at the Moon at the

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<v Speaker 2>exact spot where the rockets should have hit.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that right? That is absolutely correct?

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<v Speaker 2>And you saw nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw nothing, and a lot of other people they

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<v Speaker 1>were tremendous Walter amounts on the web. How many people

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<v Speaker 1>may have watched this on YouTube? They had all these

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<v Speaker 1>live feeds from around the world. Now, there's a few

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<v Speaker 1>images that I saw that show something like I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if somebody photoshopped it or what have you. Why

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<v Speaker 1>would they do such a thing. Like that right where

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<v Speaker 1>there was some sort of a little gas image on

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<v Speaker 1>the edge of the moon. But ninety nine percent of

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<v Speaker 1>the things that I've been looking at for the last

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four hours no visible material. But some of the

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<v Speaker 1>giant telescopes waltered down in Chile, they claim that they

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<v Speaker 1>have some image, not images, but they take the spectroscope

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<v Speaker 1>and they can actually put it under the edge of

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<v Speaker 1>the Moon and it can give us an example of

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<v Speaker 1>what chemical elements might have been around in the atmosphere

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<v Speaker 1>or the moon, which hardly has an atmosphere, And they

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<v Speaker 1>claim there might be something, but no visible flash, nothing

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<v Speaker 1>that we could see. But it goes back to Canterbury monks.

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<v Speaker 1>If we go back in time, there were claims back

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<v Speaker 1>in around eleven seventy eight that they'd wrote in their

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<v Speaker 1>most prosaic way, of course, in the early days, some

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<v Speaker 1>fiery dragon appeared on the edge of the moon. And

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<v Speaker 1>if that's possible, I mean, if that was what they

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<v Speaker 1>saw Walter, there have been other sightings in the past

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<v Speaker 1>and history. Now, if that was true, they didn't have telescopes,

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<v Speaker 1>but can you imagine asteroidal bodies slamming into the moon

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<v Speaker 1>would have created such a thing like that, but lucky

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<v Speaker 1>for us, we haven't seen anything from the outer parts

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<v Speaker 1>of the Solar system. This was just a man made rocket.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, is it possible that you, with your trained eye

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<v Speaker 2>and your excellent telescope and your minimal ambient light because

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<v Speaker 2>of where you are, secretly, is it possible that it

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<v Speaker 2>didn't happen at all, that this was a story.

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<v Speaker 1>It's possible, Walter, But I think watching the thing that

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<v Speaker 1>gives me, it gives crety to the whole story is

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<v Speaker 1>we're actually watching live feeds from the you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>three letter agencies, the four letter agencies like NASA, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're actually showing the data from what they have of

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<v Speaker 1>the countdown to this. They're showing where it should be,

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<v Speaker 1>where it impacted. I believe it did happen, but then again,

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<v Speaker 1>you never know. But why would they want to trick us, right, Walter?

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<v Speaker 1>Think about that? That's amazing. We've been tricked before, but

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<v Speaker 1>maybe not in this case. So no visible sighting of

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<v Speaker 1>the space X rocket booster at this point in time,

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason that people are wondering, why are they

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<v Speaker 1>even smashing something into the moon. Yes, we're looking. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>this sounds so ridiculous. Why are we doing this to

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<v Speaker 1>you to destroy the Moon and put space junk if

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<v Speaker 1>we have enough space junk in orbit. The simple answer,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's really complicated if you get to go deep

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<v Speaker 1>into it. We want to know when we do man habitation.

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<v Speaker 1>We mentioned this last time. The south pole of the

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<v Speaker 1>moon has the water ice. This is a great place

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<v Speaker 1>to look. But the reason they're doing this at the

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<v Speaker 1>south pole of the moon is the sun never rises

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<v Speaker 1>deep inside those craters. So what you'd have to do

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<v Speaker 1>is you could set up permanent solar stations up on

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<v Speaker 1>the top of the mountain, let's say, or the ridge

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<v Speaker 1>or the mesa, and you could be in permanent darkness

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<v Speaker 1>because the moon every time. If you and I went

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<v Speaker 1>to the moon right now with the listeners, a lunar

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<v Speaker 1>day is fourteen earth days, so you'd see the sun

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<v Speaker 1>rising along the lunar limb and you'd have to watch

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<v Speaker 1>it for fourteen days before it's set, and a lunar

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<v Speaker 1>night is fourteen days. So well, let's hope they want

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<v Speaker 1>to know what happens when these objects strike the Moon,

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<v Speaker 1>because who knows. You don't want to be in a

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<v Speaker 1>lunar habitat and all of a sudden something comes down

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<v Speaker 1>out of the sky because remember there's no sounds in space,

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<v Speaker 1>it would be boom. And they want to understand what

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<v Speaker 1>size objects come in to create craters. And that's a

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<v Speaker 1>whole nother long story that we could talk about some

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<v Speaker 1>other time.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure doctor Sky brilliant expert on celestial events. Tonight,

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<v Speaker 2>my daughters are at the outer Banks of North Carolina

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<v Speaker 2>and they they have sent me video of the sky

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<v Speaker 2>because they said.

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<v Speaker 1>We see shooting stars. We see shooting stars?

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<v Speaker 2>Are they what are they seeing? Doctor Sky?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Walter, this is the time of the year in

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<v Speaker 1>the best meteor shower. And I have to be careful

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<v Speaker 1>because they've done this for so many years, and every

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<v Speaker 1>time I tell people, wow, it's going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>really great event at the big meteor show. What they're

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<v Speaker 1>probably looking at the Percian meteor shower, Walter, is one

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<v Speaker 1>of the best of the year. Comes from a constellation Perseus.

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<v Speaker 1>If we go back into the whole story, he's the

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<v Speaker 1>guy that apparently does not supposed to look at Medusa

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<v Speaker 1>from mythology, he does something nasty, he cuts her head off,

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<v Speaker 1>and in the mythological way, that's another story. But this

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<v Speaker 1>meteor shower called the Perseans is starting to ramp up,

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<v Speaker 1>and it peaks on the evening of the twelfth and

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<v Speaker 1>thirteenth of this month. Because the moon will cooperate, it'll

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<v Speaker 1>be at new phase on the twelfth. So if you

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<v Speaker 1>have an opportunity to get out and there's no clouds,

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<v Speaker 1>those nights the twelfth into the thirteenth and the thirteenth

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<v Speaker 1>into the fourteenth might be best. Look in the northeast sky

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<v Speaker 1>after midnight. Walter, I've had the luxury of observing the

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<v Speaker 1>shower for over forty years, and I'll tell you, sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>the sky just pours forth with amazing numbers of meteors,

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<v Speaker 1>and sometimes they don't do much at all. And a

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<v Speaker 1>great comet observer, a good friend of ours here in Arizona, gentlemen,

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<v Speaker 1>that many people in the astronomy world may know, David Levy.

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<v Speaker 1>He said something because all these meteors, or as I say,

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<v Speaker 1>these little particles, and no kidding, they're about the size

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<v Speaker 1>of my least favorite cereal grape nuts, these little tiny

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<v Speaker 1>pellette size objects that you'd see as cereal. That's about

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<v Speaker 1>the size of this debris. All these meteors come from comets.

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<v Speaker 1>So David Levy said, something very interesting. He said, comets

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<v Speaker 1>are like cats, and I said to him, well, how's that. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>they said, they both have tails and they do exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what they want to do. So what your daughters are

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<v Speaker 1>looking at more than likely. And I hope everybody in

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<v Speaker 1>the vast audience of the station all over the Earth,

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<v Speaker 1>this is amazing. And the danger is part of this

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<v Speaker 1>danger danger. He is something interesting. They all come from comets,

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<v Speaker 1>and this particular shower is known to come from a

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<v Speaker 1>comet cold comet Swift Tuttel discovered in the late eighteen hundreds.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been pumping out. Think of it like the exhaust

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<v Speaker 1>of a vehicle, a gas powered car, with all the

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<v Speaker 1>carbon monoxide and particles coming out. When these comet orbits

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<v Speaker 1>intersect the Earth, we collide with that. So every year

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<v Speaker 1>around this time we get a visibility. But here's a

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<v Speaker 1>weird fact of any object in the Solar system that

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<v Speaker 1>could be dangerous to the Earth. It's the nucleus of

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<v Speaker 1>this comet Swift tunnel. Now, not to alarm people, it's

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<v Speaker 1>said that maybe hundreds or even a thousand years from now,

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<v Speaker 1>the orbital intercession of the nucleus of this comet, which

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<v Speaker 1>could be twenty miles across. Could you imagine something like that?

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<v Speaker 1>No comets go super fast, So they're saying that that

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<v Speaker 1>object when you see the little shooting stars, count your

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<v Speaker 1>blessings because that's an object that continues to pump material

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<v Speaker 1>out and it's one welter of what millions of comets.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't it amazing that the Earth hasn't been hit? And

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<v Speaker 1>that's hopefully some it doesn't happen in quite a long.

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<v Speaker 2>Time now, Doctor Sky. There was a third item we

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, there's an eclipse again, people say eclipses. This one's

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<v Speaker 1>another total solar eclipse. And Walter, have you ever seen

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<v Speaker 1>a total solar eclipse? This is interesting. I want to

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<v Speaker 2>Total solar eclipse. I don't think so well.

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<v Speaker 1>This is something that everybody and I don't work with

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<v Speaker 1>any travel agents, but I'll tell you something. I've been

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to learn about what the beauty of

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<v Speaker 1>nature really is, you have to go to one of these.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the next one, August twelfth. Next week. People in Spain,

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<v Speaker 1>the entire nation, they get the after part of where

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<v Speaker 1>the shadow is racing across the Earth. It goes fast.

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<v Speaker 1>So what happens at a total solar eclipse. The moon

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<v Speaker 1>going to move across the disk of the Sun. And

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<v Speaker 1>however close the Moon is indicates and however close we are,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, with the moon totally clip can occur best.

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<v Speaker 1>They can only occur when the Moon is closest to

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<v Speaker 1>the Earth what covers this on up. So lucky people

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<v Speaker 1>in that area of Spain will get to see an

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<v Speaker 1>eclipse that probably lasts only about maybe two and a

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<v Speaker 1>half minutes. But if you really want a big one,

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<v Speaker 1>here we go. August two, twenty twenty seven. Walter is

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<v Speaker 1>probably the best eclipse for all of us in our lifetimes.

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<v Speaker 1>If you were going to go deep into Egypt, a

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<v Speaker 1>place called luxor the Valley of the Gods, the Pleasing Pyramids,

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<v Speaker 1>you would see a total eclipse Walter of over six minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>which is unheard of. That will be quite spectacular.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you going to go do that?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you going to go there? No, it's a little

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<v Speaker 1>out of my moment of travels because I'm a little

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<v Speaker 1>concerned about that, and not not because of any terrorist

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<v Speaker 1>threats or anything. Who knows, but there was an incident

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<v Speaker 1>that happened there a long time ago. If people look

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<v Speaker 1>at it, I don't want to scare people not to

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<v Speaker 1>go to Luxor. But the point is right now, these

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<v Speaker 1>people who love eclipses, and I'm one of them, and

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<v Speaker 1>many listeners out there I'm sure are too, they look

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<v Speaker 2>Is that right? Oh my gosh, Hey, doctor Sky, this

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<v Speaker 2>was a great update. It's twenty past the hour time, terrific.

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<v Speaker 2>Always an honor to have you on the show. I

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<v Speaker 2>will promote your weekend program heavily, but I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>it to be minimized by the word weekend. This is

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<v Speaker 2>a great radio show from a spectacular broadcaster, Doctor Sky,

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<v Speaker 2>Apple Audio Network.