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<v Speaker 2>So they are awake.

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<v Speaker 1>They being the whales, they seem to really be accumulating

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<v Speaker 1>confidently now. And you combine that with the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>retail is dumping significantly at the moment.

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<v Speaker 2>They over the last three days have dumped.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's it's very minor, but it was like

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<v Speaker 1>point seven percent of the supply. That's actually a lot

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<v Speaker 1>for them.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, folks, welcome into the Thinking Crypto Podcast. I'm your host,

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<v Speaker 3>Tony Edward, and joining me today is Brian from Santiment,

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<v Speaker 3>and we're going to do a deep dive into the

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<v Speaker 3>metrics for bitcoin and to top all coins to get

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<v Speaker 3>an idea of what's happening in this crypto market. Brian,

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<v Speaker 3>great to see you. Good to see you. Nice day

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<v Speaker 3>for us to meet here, Tony. Two months high for bitcoin. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I've been following like the whale accumulation data on santamand

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<v Speaker 3>you know, watching it. What's happening, and we're seeing the

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<v Speaker 3>correlation the things we've talked about for so many years

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<v Speaker 3>now and the prices up. So I'm happy and hopefully

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<v Speaker 3>this rally continues.

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<v Speaker 1>Whales move up, so does price tail as old as

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<v Speaker 1>time here, so we'll show that and lots of other

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that's going on right now as we get into

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<v Speaker 1>mid January.

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<v Speaker 3>For sure, why don't we kick it off with bitcoin sentiment.

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<v Speaker 3>How are people feeling?

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, So we will start by kind of just looking

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<v Speaker 1>at the ratio of all the bullish comments across social

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<v Speaker 1>media divided by all the bearish comments across social media.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all that is showing here in terms of these

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<v Speaker 1>gold bars. So when it's super high, as you suspect,

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<v Speaker 1>that's when people tend to be very bullish. We'll arbitrarily

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<v Speaker 1>called this line or above right around the foam o line,

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<v Speaker 1>and then anything below right around we could even say

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<v Speaker 1>maybe here ish that's about the break even line between

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<v Speaker 1>bullish and bearish comments. There's always a bit of a

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<v Speaker 1>bullish bias. Anything below that is where there's a little

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<v Speaker 1>more bearishness than bullishness, and that tends to be when

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<v Speaker 1>prices go up. So what did we see, well on

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<v Speaker 1>the thirteenth and actually earlier today these are eight hour bars.

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<v Speaker 1>We actually saw a bit of fomo and then it

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<v Speaker 1>fell back to neutral. Once it fell back to neutral,

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<v Speaker 1>that seems to be when price is blasted off. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>grain of salt, it's going to be correlated a bit

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<v Speaker 1>with the S and P five hundred, So perhaps the

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<v Speaker 1>market open had something to do with this. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if that would be the case today wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>the best argument, because markets, the equities markets, or at

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<v Speaker 1>least the S and P five hundred are down while

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<v Speaker 1>cryptos up and that's a nice breath of fresh air.

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<v Speaker 1>But as of now, what's interesting, Tony is even though

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<v Speaker 1>prices have climbed, sentiments has fallen back down, almost to

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<v Speaker 1>that point where we're getting more bearish comments than bullish comments.

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<v Speaker 1>So people are not believing this pump whatsoever. Even when

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<v Speaker 1>wemp up to ninety seven point five K, not really

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<v Speaker 1>any sort of blip in you know, fomo spiking all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden there. So I'm very encouraged by this

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<v Speaker 1>pattern on the sentiment side.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a very.

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<v Speaker 3>Good sign that the crowd is not buying it or

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<v Speaker 3>they're in that disbelief stage maybe, right, that's very good,

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<v Speaker 3>And it could be they're a bit jaded, right, Brian,

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<v Speaker 3>from what happened in Q four and failed rallies, and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, maybe this psychological level they need to see

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<v Speaker 3>is one hundred K right now. It's like, eh, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>Bitcoin bounce, but show me one hundred K plus.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, totally.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the crowd, or at least the average trader

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<v Speaker 1>out there, tends to believe that whatever happened last time

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<v Speaker 1>one time ago is likely to repeat. I've noticed it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of a cyclical process where if if there's

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<v Speaker 1>a bull trap last time, especially if we go up

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<v Speaker 1>to the ninety five K level, like we did just

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<v Speaker 1>about nine days ago on the fifth year, we got

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<v Speaker 1>almost to ninety five or so, and then we fell

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<v Speaker 1>back down. I think because people got hyped over this

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<v Speaker 1>and then got fooled, and we're like, oh no, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to get bull trapped ever again. They see

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing happen here and they kind of shy

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<v Speaker 1>away or they just take profit, thinking it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>happen again.

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<v Speaker 2>If you know.

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<v Speaker 1>That that popular chart where it's like the dumb traders

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<v Speaker 1>tend to think this way, and then there's a big

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<v Speaker 1>bell curve around the average trader, and then it goes

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<v Speaker 1>back down to like the hooded geniuses who are like

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<v Speaker 1>behind their computers and like doing all of this extra

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<v Speaker 1>taculation that most people don't think of. The hooded people

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<v Speaker 1>and the really perceived dumb traders tend to think similarly,

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<v Speaker 1>and they'll actually take each cycle on its own face

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<v Speaker 1>rather than us putting this bias toward whatever happened last time.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think what a lot of average traders who

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<v Speaker 1>are trying to break into being a really good trader

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<v Speaker 1>are trying to do now is get away from that

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<v Speaker 1>pattern of always thinking that whatever happened last time is

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<v Speaker 1>going to repeat itself. There's too common of a feeling

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<v Speaker 1>across social media where history always repeats itself, even if

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<v Speaker 1>the circumstances are a lot different.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, absolutely so, I'm this actually makes me very optimistic

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<v Speaker 3>to see what's going to happen as we continue later

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<v Speaker 3>into this month. And you know, we've often talked about

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<v Speaker 3>the herd, and market does the opposite of the herds,

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<v Speaker 3>so people don't believe it. You know, that makes me

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<v Speaker 3>optimistic exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>And we've got a lot to cover, of course, But

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<v Speaker 1>I think sentiment is a really important thing to keep

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<v Speaker 1>an eye on now because based on the pattern just

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<v Speaker 1>over the last few days, it does seem like there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of doubt there. And the other big argument

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<v Speaker 1>that a lot of you know, trusted KOLs that Santaman

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<v Speaker 1>follows are making right now is the fact that the

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<v Speaker 1>S and P five hundred and Gold are continuing to

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<v Speaker 1>make all time highs. You got another all time high

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<v Speaker 1>just a couple of days ago for the S and P,

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<v Speaker 1>and it did drop today. I have to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>the last couple days were refreshed there. Gold did jump

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<v Speaker 1>to a new all time high temporarily earlier today.

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<v Speaker 2>And then fall.

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<v Speaker 1>But here comes Bitcoin all of a sudden starting to

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<v Speaker 1>play catch up. You see that big divergence. Let's just

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<v Speaker 1>market with a bell here. That's fine divergence that started

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<v Speaker 1>right around early to mid December December tenth, eleventh, twelfth.

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<v Speaker 1>Bitcoin goes down while Gold and the S and P

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<v Speaker 1>start to really take off here. So that's a sign

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<v Speaker 1>that because of the fact that the correlation between Bitcoin

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<v Speaker 1>and the S and P especially have been so prevalent

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<v Speaker 1>the last three es years or so, maybe even close

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<v Speaker 1>to four now, there should be some sort of regression

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<v Speaker 1>to the mean that favors Bitcoin and allows it to

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<v Speaker 1>play catch up. Of course, the other scenario is that

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<v Speaker 1>the S and P five hundred tanks and Bitcoin doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have an opportunity to catch up because the S and

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<v Speaker 1>P just falls back down to where bitcoin is. But

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<v Speaker 1>this gap here is still showing a nice setup for

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<v Speaker 1>Bitcoin to continue rallying toward one hundred k and potentially

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<v Speaker 1>beyond if retail fomo doesn't ruin that rally.

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<v Speaker 3>Very interesting, and you know, one of the things people

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<v Speaker 3>were talking about why bitcoin doesn't lord of crypto market

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<v Speaker 3>didn't keep up with gold and the S and P

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<v Speaker 3>five hundred or stock market was there was that big

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<v Speaker 3>liquidation event on October tenth, and that kind of set

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<v Speaker 3>things back where liquidity was an issue. You know, there

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<v Speaker 3>was some kind of a domino effect with the exchanges

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<v Speaker 3>and much more so. You know, I'm obviously I'm just speculating,

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<v Speaker 3>but that could be it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean people don't talk about the stock market as

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<v Speaker 1>much around that time, but it tanked a lot too.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it was like a two and a half

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<v Speaker 1>three percent drop in one day before it quickly recovered

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<v Speaker 1>after Trump kind of rescinded his tariff threats on China.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the whole reason there was a tank in

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<v Speaker 1>the first place. And all these liquidations happened. A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people just attribute it to some shadiness from exchanges,

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<v Speaker 1>and yes, I'm sure part of that is true, but

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<v Speaker 1>the news that came out about Trump kind of revisiting

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<v Speaker 1>those tariffs was the reason this fell. But you're right,

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<v Speaker 1>Bitcoin didn't really recover. It had a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a bounce here and then fell off the face of

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<v Speaker 1>the earth. But I think early to mid November was

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<v Speaker 1>what really crushed bitcoin more so than the October tenth

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<v Speaker 1>liquidation event.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, for sure, there was a lot of talks of

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<v Speaker 3>not only the liquidation event, but the Foyer cycle. Well

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<v Speaker 3>is that it right? And it became maybe a self

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<v Speaker 3>fulfilling prophecy because everybody thought, whoa, there's your crash. We

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<v Speaker 3>hit a new all time high. There was the major

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<v Speaker 3>liquidation event, maybe it is over, and then people kind

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<v Speaker 3>of walked away.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we've said it on a few shows before, Tony,

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<v Speaker 1>or at least I have. The four year cycle has

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<v Speaker 1>some merit, but I always caution people to look at

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<v Speaker 1>a four year cycle for still a very young industry.

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<v Speaker 1>Crypto has only been around since oaitish or so, and

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<v Speaker 1>that means we've really only had five or so complete cycles,

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<v Speaker 1>pretty small sample size to just say every third year

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<v Speaker 1>does this, every first year does that?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Absolutely, And that is I think something I think

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<v Speaker 3>people have to update, you know, their mental models because

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<v Speaker 3>they're so used to a small sample size of information.

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<v Speaker 3>But you compare that to the other asset classes, there's

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<v Speaker 3>no way that that's going to continue in thirty years,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, or even starting now. Right, But just if

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<v Speaker 3>it look bitcoin in thirty years from now, are we

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<v Speaker 3>going to still be in four year? That doesn't make sense.

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<v Speaker 1>The S and P has been around for over one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred years and we still don't have a concrete model

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<v Speaker 1>for this month always goes up, this month always goes down.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, that should.

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<v Speaker 1>Be a good sign that timing plays aren't all they

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<v Speaker 1>are cracked up to be, no matter how much your

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<v Speaker 1>trusted kol on x might tell you otherwise.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, for sure. Okay, Brian, I'm very curious about the

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<v Speaker 3>bigcin will data. Yeah, I've been monitoring that chart at Santiment.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, let's visualize and actually look at what they're doing

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<v Speaker 1>right now. Like I mentioned at the beginning of our

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<v Speaker 1>video here, it's looking good. This was a great sign

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<v Speaker 1>here on January eleventh.

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<v Speaker 2>Just in the last forty eight hours.

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<v Speaker 1>We've seen a jump of accumulation from the ten to

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<v Speaker 1>ten k wallets. They've added about a little over point

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<v Speaker 1>one four percent of the entire supply, and if we

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<v Speaker 1>put that in terms of rock coins, it looks like

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<v Speaker 1>it's about twenty eight seven hundred and sixty six bitcoin

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<v Speaker 1>accumulated in just forty eight hours.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>We go back all the way to November thirtieth until

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<v Speaker 1>now they've added about eighty six point five k bitcoin,

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<v Speaker 1>bringing them back to their highest total since just about November.

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<v Speaker 2>First or so. It looks like October thirty first, right

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<v Speaker 2>around there. So they are awake.

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<v Speaker 1>They being the whales, they seem to really be accumulating

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<v Speaker 1>confidently now. And you combine that with the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>That's actually a lot for them. If we put that

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<v Speaker 1>and it's a signal that retail has lost patience significantly.

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<v Speaker 3>Brian, we have been talking about this for a month, right,

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<v Speaker 3>I remember you showing that charte and we're like, wait

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<v Speaker 3>to opposite of retail, and now here it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Man on this.

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<v Speaker 3>I know I sound excited, but I'm excited about the

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<v Speaker 3>data because the data is showing exactly what the thesis

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<v Speaker 3>we've been talking about for a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and look, nothing we talk about here is a guarantee.

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<v Speaker 1>Just because the signals look a lot more bullish than

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<v Speaker 1>that we're suddenly just going to jump back to one

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<v Speaker 1>But when we deal in terms of probabilities, this is

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<v Speaker 1>one of the most real rallies that we've seen in

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<v Speaker 1>a long time. We've seen a lot of fake rallies

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<v Speaker 1>where it wasn't supported by these bullish signals. This time

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<v Speaker 1>it is, and things can still change on a dime.

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<v Speaker 1>Retail may fomo back in like crazy tomorrow as they

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<v Speaker 1>anticipate one hundred k happening, and the news outlets start

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<v Speaker 1>to perpetuate all of these bullish narratives that get them hyped.

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<v Speaker 2>But what we're seeing now this is legitimate.

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<v Speaker 1>And one thing I just pulled up here we just

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<v Speaker 2>It's the fact that.

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<v Speaker 1>Supplying exchanges tony have really dropped off in the last

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<v Speaker 1>couple days. To also support the fact that this rally

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<v Speaker 1>is real. One point eighteen million bitcoin on exchanges is

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<v Speaker 1>a seven month low, and you want it to be low.

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<v Speaker 1>That means less risk of a major sell off occurring,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's happening while there is a dip in the

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<v Speaker 1>total amount of non empty bitcoin wallets, in other words,

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<v Speaker 1>the amount of holders of bitcoin, and what is the

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<v Speaker 1>vast majority of bitcoin wallets comprised of really teeny tiny

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<v Speaker 1>retail wallets that might have thirteen dollars worth of bitcoin,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe one hundred and seventy four dollars. These aren't whales

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<v Speaker 1>that make up these numbers. It's very dramatically made up

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<v Speaker 3>Very interesting. And you mentioned the supply and exchanges is

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<v Speaker 3>also a great contributing factor. So yeah, to your point,

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<v Speaker 3>this rally looks as of right now like it's legit.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean again, we're talking about a small sample size,

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<v Speaker 1>but the last couple times we've seen drops in bitcoin holders.

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<v Speaker 2>Similar to this.

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<v Speaker 1>We've seen immediate rallies right after here back in late September,

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<v Speaker 1>here in mid November when things were looking really grim,

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<v Speaker 1>and then all of a sudden we get a nice,

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<v Speaker 2>So keep that in mind.

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<v Speaker 3>As far as ETFs. You know, I know if you

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to show some other data points here before we

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<v Speaker 3>look at that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so we just updated our ETF dashboard for those interested.

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<v Speaker 1>It's completely free. Whether you've got a sentiment account or not.

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<v Speaker 1>We can drop the link in the description so you

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<v Speaker 1>have it. But this is the bitcoin ETF volume that

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<v Speaker 2>Doesn't really matter that much.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's still quite healthy and volume isn't really a

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<v Speaker 1>bullish or bear signal anyways, But I just want to

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<v Speaker 1>show volumes before we show inflows and outflows for ethereum.

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<v Speaker 1>It's actually we just had a huge spike last week

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<v Speaker 1>and it's still way above average as of late. So

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<v Speaker 1>ETF volume and just trading in general for Ethereum has

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<v Speaker 1>picked up significantly. For Solana, which is still very young.

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<v Speaker 1>Outside of this huge spike which correlated with that Morgan

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<v Speaker 1>Stanley announcement that they're going to try to enter ETF space,

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<v Speaker 1>so Etherium and bitcoins still higher than usual, Solana about average.

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<v Speaker 1>And then here's the good stuff with inflows and outflows.

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<v Speaker 1>Yesterday was the largest spike in money moving in since

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<v Speaker 2>Take that for what it's Take that how you will.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't necessarily want to call it bullish war bearish.

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<v Speaker 1>Usually anomaly spikes like this can actually signal a top.

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<v Speaker 1>But the thing is, there isn't really enough of a

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<v Speaker 1>rally here to really associate it with like a correction.

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<v Speaker 1>Usually this just indicates like there's going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>price reversal, But there hasn't been that much of a

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<v Speaker 1>spike in the first place, like we saw back here

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<v Speaker 1>when there was a correction, or back here when there

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<v Speaker 1>was a correction, or even this one. So all I

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<v Speaker 1>really take from this is the fact that there's a

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<v Speaker 2>Again.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's and the ETFs, you know, they're kind of

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<v Speaker 3>fickle where you know, if the price is going up,

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<v Speaker 3>you not necessarily I don't know how to put it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's I would rather trust other data points than this,

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<v Speaker 3>because you know, the ETFs are this products being pushed

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<v Speaker 3>to many different folks, and if they see the price

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<v Speaker 3>going up, they could jump right in, but then also

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<v Speaker 3>they could jump right back out or right yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it used to be kind of comprised mostly

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<v Speaker 3>of institutional money, but I think that's changed, especially for Bitcoin,

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<v Speaker 2>In terms of their ETFs.

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<v Speaker 1>Ethereum is a little more fresh, and it looks like

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<v Speaker 1>inflows and outflows are are pretty normal and stable at

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<v Speaker 1>the moment.

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<v Speaker 2>Solana's is there.

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<v Speaker 1>There's actually quite a continued rally of inflow days without

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<v Speaker 1>any outflow days, but they're small inflow days, So business

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<v Speaker 1>as usual for Ethereum and Solana. But Bitcoin does seem

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<v Speaker 1>to be showing something that's going on with that huge

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<v Speaker 1>spike being as high as it is right now. Can

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<v Speaker 1>we take a look at all coins, specifically Ethereum, Sentiment

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<v Speaker 1>and MVRV. Actually, Brian, you know, there's one thing I

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<v Speaker 1>forgot to ask you bitcoin.

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<v Speaker 2>MVRV, Yeah, good point.

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<v Speaker 1>So MVRV for those who don't know, is the mean

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<v Speaker 1>value versus realize value of basically all of the wallets

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<v Speaker 1>on the network. And the reason it's useful is because

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<v Speaker 1>it's a good way to measure when to essentially buy

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<v Speaker 1>low or sell high based on what your peers are doing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a zero sum game. Crypto trading is just like

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<v Speaker 1>anything else, and when both the short term and long

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<v Speaker 1>term lines are very negative like this, that indicates that

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<v Speaker 1>your peers those other traders are down significantly and it's

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<v Speaker 1>a better than average time to buy. There's less risk

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<v Speaker 1>in you doing so. When both lines are way up high,

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<v Speaker 1>which we actually have not really seen in the past

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<v Speaker 1>three months, but we did. If we go a little

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<v Speaker 1>further back like here, this was a sign that we

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<v Speaker 1>were getting way overheated because your average competing traders were

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<v Speaker 1>way above the zero percent line, and that would be

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<v Speaker 1>a sign that you're at a heavy risk if you're

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<v Speaker 1>buying or holding onto your coins. So as of right now,

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<v Speaker 1>short term, because of this medium sized surge that we've

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<v Speaker 1>seen the first half of January, it's up to about

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<v Speaker 1>plus eight percent. Long term, it's still at about negative three,

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<v Speaker 1>So slight, slight argument to still buy in here long

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<v Speaker 1>term with less risk than usual, but short term, don't

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<v Speaker 1>be surprised if there's a little bit of testing in

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<v Speaker 1>this ninety ford to ninety eight K range until some

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<v Speaker 1>fomoers kind of get knocked out. Maybe we see MVRV

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<v Speaker 1>get back here to zero to five five percent something

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<v Speaker 1>like that, and then that's where we might finally see

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<v Speaker 1>d the celebration of one hundred K getting breached again.

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<v Speaker 2>Hm.

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<v Speaker 3>Very interesting, Yeah, because I can see the short term

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<v Speaker 3>it is approaching the levels that we saw in October

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<v Speaker 3>with the high, but yet to your point of long

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<v Speaker 3>term still under water a little bit or approaching neutral.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean we've seen far crazier, you know, surges than

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<v Speaker 1>just a plus eight percent for thirty day MVRV. I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen it above twenty five before. But it's the power

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<v Speaker 1>of both of them being up at the same time

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<v Speaker 1>that was why it was so dangerous back then. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't consider this nearly as dangerous because only the short

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<v Speaker 1>term is about as high as it was during the

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<v Speaker 1>all time high, while the long term is actually still

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<v Speaker 1>below water. That's a much better circumstance.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, absolutely how about etherorem MVRV.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, while we're here, we'll just do Ethereum's MVRV as well,

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<v Speaker 1>and then look at some of its sentiment as well. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so so not as good of a circumstance. Ethereum's short

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<v Speaker 1>term is up to plus nine percent, while long term

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<v Speaker 1>is at plus three percent instead of negative three. So

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<v Speaker 1>both the short and long term are above water right now.

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<v Speaker 1>The last time that happened was December tenth, and that

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<v Speaker 1>was a top where we fell back down. Obviously, Ethereum

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<v Speaker 1>is still going to be slightly correlated with Bitcoin, not

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<v Speaker 1>as much as some other oflf coins these days, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if Bitcoin is still rallying, don't expect this

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<v Speaker 1>to be a top, just because the MVRV is looking

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit overheated now. But nevertheless, if you're choosing

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<v Speaker 1>between Bitcoin and Ethereum for maybe just a week's time,

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<v Speaker 1>the math says there might be a little more advantage

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<v Speaker 1>to sticking with Bitcoin this time around.

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<v Speaker 3>That definitely makes sense. Yeah, because at some point alts

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<v Speaker 3>do pick up steam and they outperform Bitcoin. This is

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<v Speaker 3>a pattern rousine over and over. But yeah, I had

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<v Speaker 3>esca point there eth getting a little bit dangerous there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and we can see how sentiment might be factoring

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<v Speaker 1>into that as well. It looks like there's a little

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<v Speaker 1>more bullishness toward ethereum.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it kind of happened right before all of crypto

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<v Speaker 1>took off, about twenty four hours ago, but you can

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<v Speaker 1>see the pattern here. Like just since late November until now,

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<v Speaker 1>the average sentiment has picked up quite a bit. I

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't call this like super fomo and greedy. Yesterday was

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<v Speaker 1>that was the third highest fomo day we've had in

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<v Speaker 1>the past three months, but it's at least just slightly

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm a little.

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<v Speaker 1>Concerned about sentiments starting to get a little hot for ethereum,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's not out a point where I'd be like

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<v Speaker 1>terrified of a correction like we saw with this huge spike,

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<v Speaker 1>and it proved to be a very good signal to

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, for sure. How about XRP sentiment and then we

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<v Speaker 3>can do MVRV for that.

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<v Speaker 1>So XRP, which had a nice rally in early January

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<v Speaker 1>but has cooled off since it's saw its biggest spike

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<v Speaker 1>in sentiment just yesterday. And yeah, three and a half

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<v Speaker 1>Polish posts for every one Bearish post.

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<v Speaker 2>That's pretty significant.

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<v Speaker 1>So that that tells me that there might be a

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<v Speaker 1>few too many overly eager XRP retailers right now. It

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean XRP isn't a legitimate long term investment, but

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<v Speaker 1>be careful with swing trading XRP while the hype is

431
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<v Speaker 1>this high. You can see right here things corrected right after.

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<v Speaker 1>This was a really you know, cautionary cell signal right here.

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<v Speaker 2>And so is this.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean pretty much every big fomo spike of the

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<v Speaker 1>past three months was followed by a bit of a correction.

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<v Speaker 1>Bitcoin of course, can still pull XRP up if it rallies,

437
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<v Speaker 1>but XRP has a tough time going on like a

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<v Speaker 1>huge decoupling while fomo is this high.

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<v Speaker 3>H Yeah, good point. So this is where folks, you

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<v Speaker 3>got to follow the data, right The sentiment is pretty

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<v Speaker 3>high there, and it's something to be cautious about, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>And then how's the MVRV look.

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<v Speaker 1>So MVRV for XRP, I wouldn't be surprised if short

444
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<v Speaker 1>term is still quite high because of that early January rally.

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<v Speaker 2>But let's take a look.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so you can see this was like the huge

447
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<v Speaker 1>warning sign.

448
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<v Speaker 2>It got above twenty percent.

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<v Speaker 1>If you look at that top left bubble where I'm looking,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was a sign that it was going to

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<v Speaker 1>be hard to continue a rally, while so many average

452
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<v Speaker 1>wallets were already well above.

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<v Speaker 2>That zero percent line. And then it came back down.

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<v Speaker 1>We had a little bit of a correction, and even

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<v Speaker 1>just this little bounce was enough to push it back up.

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<v Speaker 1>It's at about plus eight percent now, same as Bitcoin.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's long term. Even with this like early January rally,

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<v Speaker 1>like the long term trend for XRP still has left

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of meat on the bone, so to speak,

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<v Speaker 1>because of the fact that it's down. Yeah, the price

461
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<v Speaker 1>is down forty percent if you go back to July

462
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<v Speaker 1>twenty second or so when it had that top. So

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<v Speaker 1>the six month decline in price means that the long

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<v Speaker 1>term average returns are at minus twelve percent, Meaning if

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<v Speaker 1>you were to jump into XRP and your plan is

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<v Speaker 1>to hang on for like a year or more, the

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<v Speaker 1>metrics justify that the risk of that is pretty low.

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<v Speaker 1>Though not a bad setup for XRP. Here after this

469
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<v Speaker 1>cool down from last week and the big cool down

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<v Speaker 1>from the past six seven months or so.

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<v Speaker 3>Very interesting. Okay, so how about we look at Solana sentiment.

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<v Speaker 1>Solana sentiment has stayed pretty low. It's kind of the

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<v Speaker 1>opposite of XRP. Actually, it looks like it's been more

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<v Speaker 1>FUDD than FOMO the last week or so. There was

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<v Speaker 1>one big spike and I'm yeah, this is January sixth,

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<v Speaker 1>so that was the day Morgan Stanley had that big

477
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<v Speaker 1>exciting announcement about their.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, intention to have an EAT.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they filed that day and people got very

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<v Speaker 1>excited with one of the largest American financial institutions thrown

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<v Speaker 1>their hat into the ring. But that of course created

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<v Speaker 1>a top, as sentiment often will predict. Then we see

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<v Speaker 1>a big FUD spike here on January eleventh, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>been rallying a little bit ever since. Price is it

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<v Speaker 1>looks like, yeah, it got up to about one forty

486
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<v Speaker 1>six earlier today and that's the highest we've seen going

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<v Speaker 1>all the way back to November thirteenth. So it's at

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<v Speaker 1>a two month high, just like Bitcoin just hit a

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<v Speaker 1>two month high. But sentiment is staying pretty low, just

490
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<v Speaker 1>like bitcoin. So I like Solana's sentiments set up here

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<v Speaker 1>for a further climb if Bitcoin can carry all coins

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<v Speaker 1>out along with it.

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<v Speaker 3>Mm, yeah, good stuff. I'm trying to think of there's

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<v Speaker 3>any other data points that we usually look at. I

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<v Speaker 3>think that might be it. It looks like you got

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<v Speaker 3>some trending words here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just gonna check out briefly what some of

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<v Speaker 1>the big stories and narratives have been from the last

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<v Speaker 1>couple of days, and just looking at this without getting

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<v Speaker 1>into the details.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got some bullish hype narratives that are kind of

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<v Speaker 2>forming right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Bullish momentum rising, BTC nears one hundred k, momentum driven

505
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<v Speaker 1>snipers little. We'd have to look into what that really means.

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<v Speaker 1>BSc Wallace purchase, Monaro, Privacy surch We didn't talk about Monaro,

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<v Speaker 1>but it hid an all time high near seven hundred dollars,

508
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<v Speaker 1>and privacy coins in general continue to be big standouts

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<v Speaker 1>outside of z cash, which has been demolished due to

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the news about the development team getting

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<v Speaker 1>shaken up and a lot of them leaving. I know

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<v Speaker 1>they do still have development, but the uncertainty surrounding that

513
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<v Speaker 1>particular coin is still you know, very shaky, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think Manaro has benefited because of that. There's also the

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<v Speaker 1>larger privacy coin narrative that's floating around.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if you've heard that. And so it

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<v Speaker 3>started with z cash, where z cash had the big

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<v Speaker 3>run up, and now it's like Monaro's turn. So I

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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't be surprised if like Dash and the other ones

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<v Speaker 3>start rallying eventually.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, I mean Dash has Dash actually just had

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<v Speaker 1>a huge run itself. I'm just looking at the word

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<v Speaker 1>privacy coin. Maybe I can include the word coin in it,

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<v Speaker 1>and we can see how much the social narratives have

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<v Speaker 1>been going up over the topic in general.

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<v Speaker 2>Not that much.

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<v Speaker 1>I expected more, but yeah, if we looked at just XMR,

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<v Speaker 1>look at that, I mean, just a huge run in

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<v Speaker 1>the last four days.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a lot more than I thought. Actually, it's up up.

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<v Speaker 1>To about seven seventy now, so it's been making new

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<v Speaker 1>all time highs consistently the last few days. And then

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<v Speaker 1>here's Dash doing something very similar.

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<v Speaker 2>Again.

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is kind of like a regardless of

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<v Speaker 1>just like the regular cycles of different privacy coins.

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<v Speaker 2>I think z Cash's a lot of its profits from

538
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<v Speaker 2>traders have been moved into.

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<v Speaker 1>Manaro and dash as a result of the development news.

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<v Speaker 3>So can we take a look at this sentiment from Minaro.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's getting up there.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the second largest bullish day we've had in

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<v Speaker 1>the last month. I would expect that a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>this is almost all of it is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>directly due to the price, right yeah, performance. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>people are going to care maybe secondarily about the actual

547
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<v Speaker 1>news and what manual is working on, but the average

548
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<v Speaker 1>trader is mostly just paying attention to price, and social

549
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<v Speaker 1>dominance isn't really showing anything too special right now. But

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<v Speaker 1>for those people who are talking about Monaro, bullishness has

551
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<v Speaker 1>started to take over. So there's a little bit of

552
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<v Speaker 1>a fomo risk there. And then dash ash is getting

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more attention relative to its normal rate of talk.

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<v Speaker 1>Not quite to the level of fomo that you might expect,

555
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<v Speaker 1>but don't be surprised. You know, if it gets toward

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred dollars in the next day or two, both

557
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<v Speaker 1>social dominance and bullishness will really start to get to

558
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<v Speaker 1>like way up here.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, very very interesting, Brian. I am looking forward to

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<v Speaker 3>our next meeting because you know, we're looking at the

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<v Speaker 3>data and what the whales are doing and how the

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<v Speaker 3>market's moving. And I'm really curious, you know where that

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<v Speaker 3>takes us because so far to data showing this is

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<v Speaker 3>a legit rally, So it's going to be an exciting month,

565
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<v Speaker 3>it seems like. But no guarantees, of course.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, based on probably our last three months of calls,

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<v Speaker 1>this is by far the best news I've been able

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<v Speaker 1>to report based on what the data is showing. So again,

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<v Speaker 1>no guarantees of anything happening. But as in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>like which rallies are legit and which ones are kind

571
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<v Speaker 1>of like fake bull traps, this one's veering more toward

572
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<v Speaker 1>the former.

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<v Speaker 3>Right now, Oh for sure. And folks, if you want

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<v Speaker 3>to learn more about this data and run through it yourself,

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<v Speaker 3>check out the link to Sentiment's website in the description

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<v Speaker 3>go sign up, Brian, you can sign up and get

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<v Speaker 3>a free version right and get some of the data.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you got two free weeks to just explore all

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<v Speaker 1>of the real time data that we showed here today.

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<v Speaker 1>And after those two weeks you can decide whether you

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<v Speaker 1>want to be a member or you stick to just

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<v Speaker 1>browsing the free stuff on our site.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, for sure, And like I said, I almost refreshed

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<v Speaker 3>that whale data sentiment accumulation chart every day, and I

585
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<v Speaker 3>of course look at the MVRV for a bitcoin, so

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<v Speaker 3>it's really helpful and to get an idea what's happening

587
00:32:00.839 --> 00:32:02.880
<v Speaker 3>in the market. And you know, sometimes you look at

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<v Speaker 3>crypto Twitter or different social platforms and there's a lot

589
00:32:05.960 --> 00:32:08.680
<v Speaker 3>of noise, and the data really helps to filter through

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<v Speaker 3>is this legit? All these people getting excited about something

591
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<v Speaker 3>they shouldn't be And it's really a great like reflective.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know how to articulate it, but it just

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<v Speaker 3>allows me to reflect on what's happening and bring it

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<v Speaker 3>back to the data.

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<v Speaker 2>Great point.

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<v Speaker 1>And one thing I wanted to mention about crypto Twitter

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<v Speaker 1>and slash x that's been going on. I'm sure you've

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<v Speaker 1>seen Tony all the talk about the algos and how

599
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<v Speaker 1>things are less visible, and I want to encourage everyone watching,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's Santaman's channel, Thinking Crypto's channel, or anyone else

601
00:32:43.799 --> 00:32:48.119
<v Speaker 1>that you really trust and enjoy absorbing content on the

602
00:32:48.160 --> 00:32:50.920
<v Speaker 1>notification bell appears to make a huge difference and whether

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<v Speaker 1>people actually see the content that we're putting out there.

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<v Speaker 1>And I used to kind of think of the bell

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<v Speaker 1>as kind of novelty, like you're going to see it

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<v Speaker 1>in the algorithm anyways.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's actually made a difference for.

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<v Speaker 1>Us too with some of the trusted people that we

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<v Speaker 1>get information from and get inspiration for doing research. So

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<v Speaker 1>hit those bells on any of our channels or others

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<v Speaker 1>that you just trust, and it seems to make a

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<v Speaker 1>huge difference during this time of uncertainty and not knowing

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<v Speaker 1>what the hell is going to happen next.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, for sure, great point. All right, Brian, thank you

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<v Speaker 3>so much, And like I said, I'm looking forward to

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<v Speaker 3>our next one. So let's see how the price moves,

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<v Speaker 3>how the market reacts, and much more.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm excited. Talk soon, Tony.
