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<v Speaker 1>It's Night Side with Dan Ray WBZ.

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<v Speaker 2>This that was a tough loss in Toronto tonight because

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<v Speaker 2>the Red Sox were hit six nothing and they failed

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<v Speaker 2>to respond to seven unanswered runs by the Blue Jays.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, Hey, it's a long season. They'll have great

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<v Speaker 2>games and they'll have not so great games. This is

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<v Speaker 2>one you don't want to remember. Okay. I want to

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<v Speaker 2>talk up a subject we haven't talked about. We have

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<v Speaker 2>talked about the possibility of doing this now for the

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<v Speaker 2>next for the last couple of nights, but circumstances overtook us.

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<v Speaker 2>And so the Trump administration is becoming very aggressive in

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<v Speaker 2>its enforcement of arresting and deporting illegals, people who are

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<v Speaker 2>here illegally. And now we have two judges who are

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<v Speaker 2>under under arrest and facing federal charges for their actions

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<v Speaker 2>in two cases. One was in New Mexico and one

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<v Speaker 2>was in Wisconsin. Now, most of you are not going

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<v Speaker 2>to know the specifics of these cases because you'll watch

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<v Speaker 2>us a quick news report. I would like to lay

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<v Speaker 2>out for you these two cases, and then I would

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<v Speaker 2>like to find out from you if you feel the

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<v Speaker 2>arrest of the judges are justified. We did have the

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<v Speaker 2>Shelley Joseph case here in Massachusetts, and Shelley Joseph will

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<v Speaker 2>she has avoided federal prosecution, but she will have to

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<v Speaker 2>face a judicial conduct commission here in Massachusetts. And I

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<v Speaker 2>believe that part of the agreement which allowed her to

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<v Speaker 2>walk out of federal court scott free, probably is an

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<v Speaker 2>understanding that there will be some some punishment. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>sure what, but I kind of imagine that she will

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<v Speaker 2>walk away scott free, even in front of the judicial

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<v Speaker 2>conduct commission. But it's a much better venue for Shelley Joseph.

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<v Speaker 2>It is not her case that we want to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about tonight. So the first case, and again the names

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<v Speaker 2>here are not going to be familiar to you, So

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<v Speaker 2>just beer with me, and I will try to tell

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<v Speaker 2>this as a factually in a straightforward as I can.

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<v Speaker 2>There's two cases, one out of New Mexico and one

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<v Speaker 2>out of Wisconsin. In the Wisconsin case, this is the

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<v Speaker 2>United States versus Hannah Duggan. She happens to be an

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<v Speaker 2>elected judge, so she's a state judge that is elected

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<v Speaker 2>out there in the state of Wisconsin. Different states have

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<v Speaker 2>rules in terms of either appointing or electing judges, So

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<v Speaker 2>in this case. According to the press release from the

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<v Speaker 2>Department of Justice, she is facing federal criminal complaint for

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<v Speaker 2>her alleged interference with a federal law enforcement operation and

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<v Speaker 2>unlawful unlawful concealment of an individual subject to arrest. So

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<v Speaker 2>we go back to April eighteenth, just a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>weeks ago, when members of the Milwaukee Office of US

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<v Speaker 2>Immigration and Customs Enforcement ICE and the Enforcement and Removal Operations,

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<v Speaker 2>also a federal agency, along with other federal partners including

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<v Speaker 2>the FBIDA, US Customs and Border Patrol, tried to execute

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<v Speaker 2>what the Department of Justice says is a lawful warrant

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<v Speaker 2>arrest warrant for Eduardo Flores Ruiz, a Mexican national previously

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<v Speaker 2>removed from the United States and recently charged in Milwaukee

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<v Speaker 2>County with multiple counts of domestic abuse related battery. Federal

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<v Speaker 2>agents arrived at the Milwaukee County Courthouse, which would be

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<v Speaker 2>like arriving at one of our courthouses here in Massachusetts,

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<v Speaker 2>intending to arrest Floes Ruiz in a public hallway. Following

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<v Speaker 2>his court appearance before Judge Dugan, the judge learned that

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<v Speaker 2>the agents were present in the hallway, very similar to

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<v Speaker 2>what Shelley Joseph found out in Newton District Court a

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<v Speaker 2>few years ago. Dugan allegedly confronted and ordered the federal

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<v Speaker 2>agents to leave the courthouse. I don't know that she

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<v Speaker 2>would have authority to do that, but she's not charged

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<v Speaker 2>with that action. After she was made aware that they

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<v Speaker 2>had a valid immigration arrest warrant, according to the Department

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<v Speaker 2>of Justice, Dugan told agents they needed a judicial warrant

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<v Speaker 2>and demand that they go to the Chief Judge's office.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is where the ruse starts. Once the agents

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<v Speaker 2>were no longer in the vicinity of her courtroom, they're

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<v Speaker 2>cooperating with her. Judge. Dougan allegedly elected not to conduct

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<v Speaker 2>the hearing on this criminal case, despite the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>they were victims in the courtroom. They were expecting to

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<v Speaker 2>see the process of justice proceed on their behalf, but

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<v Speaker 2>that didn't happen because the judge personally escorted Flees, Ruiz

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<v Speaker 2>and his attorney through a restricted jury door. If you

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<v Speaker 2>have been in a courthouse, there's certain doors you can't

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<v Speaker 2>go through. If you're a judge, pretty much can go anywhere,

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<v Speaker 2>but if you're a criminal defendant or if you're a witness,

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<v Speaker 2>or if you're a victim, or if you're a television reporter,

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<v Speaker 2>you know a certain areas you can't go through. So

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<v Speaker 2>this is a restricted door called jury door, not typically

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<v Speaker 2>used by defendants or attorneys. The doorway led to a

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<v Speaker 2>non public hallway through which Flora's ruiz and his attorney

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<v Speaker 2>exited the courtroom the courthouse. According to the affidavit, Judge

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<v Speaker 2>Jugan's actions resulted in Flores's ruiz temporarily avoiding federal custody.

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<v Speaker 2>Her effort was to get him out of the courthouse

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<v Speaker 2>courthouse following a brief footchase. She's charged with obstruction of

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<v Speaker 2>proceedings before a department or agency of the United States,

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<v Speaker 2>which carries a maximum penalty of five years in prison,

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<v Speaker 2>and concealing a person to prevent arrest, which carries a

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<v Speaker 2>maximum penalty of one year in prison. Flores had previously

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<v Speaker 2>been deported in twenty thirteen and re entered the US illegally,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was subject to arrest based on an administrative

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<v Speaker 2>warrant issued by ICE for immigration violations following his recent

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<v Speaker 2>criminal activities in Milwaukee. So that's case number one in

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<v Speaker 2>your opinion. Did the judge do anything wrong? I think

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<v Speaker 2>she's got a heap of problems there. Okay, let's go

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<v Speaker 2>to New Mexico. So we have a husband and wife,

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<v Speaker 2>Nancy Ann Canoe and Jose Lewis Cano. Jose Lewis is

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<v Speaker 2>the judge. They've both been arrested for evidence tampering offenses

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<v Speaker 2>related to the federal investigation and prosecution against Christian or

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<v Speaker 2>Tego Lopez of venezuelan national residing unlawfully within the US

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<v Speaker 2>with alleged ties to Trende Ragua, US designated foreign terrorist organization.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a statement here from the US Attorney out there

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<v Speaker 2>in Mexico that judges are responsible for upholding our country's law.

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<v Speaker 2>Beyond egregious for a former judge and his wife to

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<v Speaker 2>engage in evidence tampering on behalf of a suspected Trendy

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<v Speaker 2>Deragua gang member accused of illegally possessing firearms. The US

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<v Speaker 2>Attorney's Office is committed to dismantling this foreign terrorist group.

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<v Speaker 2>Disrupting its criminal operation in New Mexico starts by prosecuting

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<v Speaker 2>those who support gang members, including judges. Now, according to

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<v Speaker 2>the documents, Homeland Security initiating the investigation of or Take

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<v Speaker 2>Lopez after receiving an anonymous tip that this subject, or

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<v Speaker 2>take A Loz, was unlawfully present in the US and

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<v Speaker 2>in possession of firearms. Subsequent investigation confirmed the defendant illegally

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<v Speaker 2>released shortly thereafter due to over karate at the border facility.

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<v Speaker 2>Evidence uncovered by federal agents realed revealed the debt defendant

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<v Speaker 2>him and other illegal aliens handling firearms at a shooting

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<v Speaker 2>range in Lacruss, New Mexico. Among the weapons allegedly pictured

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<v Speaker 2>a six hour P three sixty five handgun, an AR

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen rifle equipped with a suppressor, and other high powered

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<v Speaker 2>firearms and ammunition. Tattoos confirmed Ortego Lopez identity in the

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<v Speaker 2>photos and videos for the review of his social media

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<v Speaker 2>activity revealed content suggesting affiliation with Trend Deagua, including gang

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<v Speaker 2>related tattoos, hand gestures, and clothing. January twenty twenty five,

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<v Speaker 2>the government agents received the tip that Ortega Lopez was

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<v Speaker 2>unlawfully residing with other illegal aliens on a property in Lacrusius,

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<v Speaker 2>owned by Nancy and Jose Cana, the judge and his wife.

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<v Speaker 2>Prior to his resignation from the court in March of

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty five, Cano served as a judge of the

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<v Speaker 2>donna Anna County Magistrate Court and warrant has executed two

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<v Speaker 2>search warrants in connection with the investigation, resulting in the

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<v Speaker 2>arrest of Ortega Ortes in February. February twenty eighth multiple

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<v Speaker 2>associates and the seize for four firearms so he's arrested

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<v Speaker 2>for illegal possession of firearms and AMMO. Four firearms believed

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<v Speaker 2>to be in his possession, along with three of his

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<v Speaker 2>cell phones, was seized during the operation. During the search,

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<v Speaker 2>or Tego Lopez was permitted to make a phone call

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<v Speaker 2>before being taken to the detention center. He told agents

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<v Speaker 2>a particular phone he wished to use was not among

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<v Speaker 2>the devices recovered from the detention center. Later showed Nancy Cano,

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<v Speaker 2>the wife of the judge, holding a black iPhone believed

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<v Speaker 2>to be Ortega's fourth phone. A fourth telephone in a

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<v Speaker 2>March seventh call with Ortego Lopez Nancy Cano, this is

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<v Speaker 2>after his arrest, used the device to contact a person

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<v Speaker 2>via WhatsApp. Then facilitated a FaceTime conversation between the person

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<v Speaker 2>and Ortego Lopez using her personal phone. Additionally, in an

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<v Speaker 2>April twentieth call, the judge's wife and Ortego Lopez discussed

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<v Speaker 2>deleting his Facebook account, a platform where he had previously

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<v Speaker 2>shared incriminating content, including gang affiliations and images with firearms.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the Judge's wife. On April twenty fourth, federal

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<v Speaker 2>agents executed a subsequent search warrant at the Cano residence

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<v Speaker 2>to locate the missing cell phone. During question Jose Cano,

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<v Speaker 2>the judge admitted he destroyed Ortega's cell phone by smashing

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<v Speaker 2>it with a hammer approximately five weeks prior after Ortego

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<v Speaker 2>Lopez's arrests, believing it contained incriminating photos and videos of

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<v Speaker 2>Ortega with firearms. Forensic analysis of the recovered phones revealed

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<v Speaker 2>messages linked to Artaga's criminal activities, including affiliations with trend

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<v Speaker 2>de Agua and images of Artaga with firearms. Judge Cano

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<v Speaker 2>former Judge Cano, charged with one count of tampering with

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<v Speaker 2>evidence and Nancy Cano charged with one count of conspiracy

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<v Speaker 2>to tamper with evidence. If convicted, the defendants face a

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<v Speaker 2>maximum penalty of twenty years in prison, three years of

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<v Speaker 2>supervise release, and a two hundred and fifty thousand dollars fine.

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<v Speaker 2>So my question is that's the bare bones of the

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<v Speaker 2>cases and the allegations. You will not understand that if

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<v Speaker 2>you watch the nightly newscasts because they don't have the

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<v Speaker 2>time to explain that. But I've explained that to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty serious charges in my offense, in my opinion, pretty

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<v Speaker 2>egregious activity by a couple of judges, one in Wisconsin,

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<v Speaker 2>one in New Mexico. Is the Trump administration correct and

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<v Speaker 2>based upon the facts as presented in arresting these individuals,

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<v Speaker 2>or should they be immune from prosecution because they're state judges.

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<v Speaker 2>That's my question. You know now probably more than ninety

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<v Speaker 2>nine point five percent of the American public about the

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<v Speaker 2>background of these cases. We're talking about destruction of evidence,

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<v Speaker 2>tampering with evidence. We're talking about basically trying to in Wisconsin,

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<v Speaker 2>defeat the legitimate purposes of federal agents. I can understand

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<v Speaker 2>that you, as a judge, you might feel differently, and

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<v Speaker 2>maybe in your court you can cut someone a break

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<v Speaker 2>because you have some flexibility in your courtroom. But when

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<v Speaker 2>you're not in your court and you're functioning outside of

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<v Speaker 2>your jurisdiction as a judge, I think you get big

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<v Speaker 2>problems six seven, two, five, four thirty, six, seven, nine,

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<v Speaker 2>ten thirty. Who's right on this? The Trump administration. These

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<v Speaker 2>are probably not the only judges that are going to

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<v Speaker 2>face this, and it's it's a really interesting legal question

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<v Speaker 2>and I'd love to hear your response. We'll be back

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<v Speaker 2>on Nightside right after this.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Night Side with Dan Ray Boston's news Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, I do you want to mention that

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<v Speaker 2>tomorrow night we will have the BSY car guys. During

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<v Speaker 2>this period of time, Scott and Larry will join us

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<v Speaker 2>taking your question. Tomort night is May first, so that

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<v Speaker 2>has started the summer driving season, as far as I'm concerned,

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<v Speaker 2>the unofficial start. And we'll also talk with former state

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<v Speaker 2>Representative Dave Nagel, who made a very interesting presentation at

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<v Speaker 2>the State House about the dangers of getting in over

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<v Speaker 2>your head with gambling. I mean, gambling is now legal

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<v Speaker 2>and a lot of people are doing it. He got

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<v Speaker 2>in over his head go all the way back to

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<v Speaker 2>when he was a teenager, and he eventually paid for

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<v Speaker 2>it with a guilty plea in federal court and he

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<v Speaker 2>was sentenced a year and a half in prison. He

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<v Speaker 2>I had a great conversation with him today, and look,

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<v Speaker 2>the phone. So the question is how do you feel

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<v Speaker 2>about these judges? And you know, it's really funny because

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<v Speaker 2>there's a little bit of a juxtaposition here in that normally,

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<v Speaker 2>historically in this country, it's been democratic presidents who have

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<v Speaker 2>it was twenty eleven US versus Arizona, that immigration law

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<v Speaker 2>is preempted by the US, by the United States government,

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<v Speaker 2>by the federal government. And here you have sort of

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<v Speaker 2>Bill is an Easton Hi bill. You were first this

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<v Speaker 2>for your patients in listening to my explanation. But I

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, I don't think judges should be exempt, but

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<v Speaker 3>the class system is alive and well so apparently you know,

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<v Speaker 3>police officers are not exempt. They're blue collar. Now you're

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<v Speaker 2>That's an interesting that's an interesting analogy that you draw.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that is interesting. Yeah, I mean everybody agrees if

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<v Speaker 2>a police officer breaks the law should lose his badge

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<v Speaker 2>and also be punished, and we've seen that.

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<v Speaker 3>Mm hmm. Yeah, it's it should be an equal standard

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think by the way that the judge in Wisconsin,

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<v Speaker 2>she has been suspended from the bench by the state

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<v Speaker 2>Supreme Court out there, and the court isn't very political

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<v Speaker 2>in Wisconsin, and when they don't appoint judges unlike here

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<v Speaker 2>where governors appoint judges out in Wisconsin, they run for

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<v Speaker 2>office at all sorts of levels, which you know is

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<v Speaker 2>a different sort of system. And right now there are

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<v Speaker 2>four Democratic judges and three Republican judges on the court,

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<v Speaker 2>and I guess that the court ruled four to three

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<v Speaker 2>that in light of this, you know, she would be

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<v Speaker 2>suspended from the bench. She's going to be paid, but

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<v Speaker 2>she'll be suspended from the bench, which is interesting because

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<v Speaker 2>if it had broken along party lines, it probably she

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<v Speaker 3>So the system is still corrupt the fact that she'll

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<v Speaker 3>be suspended with pay. Cops used to have that protection,

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<v Speaker 3>and you're seeing it fade in relation to zenaif everybody

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<v Speaker 3>agrees with you on that. But what a cowardly country

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<v Speaker 3>we live in to house his family for free and

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<v Speaker 3>be threatened by his family if we dare harm him.

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<v Speaker 3>That was ridiculous. Put back to the cameras too. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>opposed generally to cameras, way too many cameras, but many

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<v Speaker 3>many crimes wouldn't be solved unless we had them, including

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're right, I think. Look, I think as a

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<v Speaker 2>may disagree. You almost sound like you might be a

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<v Speaker 2>of aggravation and disrespect that is directed at police officers

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<v Speaker 2>in this country. The average person would never tolerate with

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<v Speaker 2>what police officers have to put up with in this country.

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<v Speaker 2>So I know the unions tended to be opposed to

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<v Speaker 2>the implementation of body cams on police officers, but I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's actually helped them. It's also showed us often

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<v Speaker 2>what police officers go through in the course of their

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<v Speaker 2>day at work, sometimes risking their own lives, running into

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<v Speaker 2>bruning buildings. As firefighters as well, are running into cars

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<v Speaker 2>that are within seconds of exploding and pulling people out

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<v Speaker 2>who have suffered you know, horrific car accidents. So I

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<v Speaker 2>think I think that cameras uh on police officers, which

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, fair enough, Yeah, I just I'm I'm a skeptic.

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<v Speaker 3>I think more harm than good will come from them

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<v Speaker 3>cameras in general. I think it's a tool.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, we can agree to disagree, agree to disagree. Bill,

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate your call is always, thank you much, and

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<v Speaker 2>you would you you, you would just.

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<v Speaker 3>As soon see these judges pay a price, he be

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<v Speaker 3>held accountable and not suspended with pay.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean they still have to go through the

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<v Speaker 2>criminal prosecution. Now that that's really the real problem.

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<v Speaker 3>There's going to be it's going to be a slap

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<v Speaker 3>on the wrist. You know that that's going to get

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see, let's see what happened. You know what, if

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<v Speaker 2>if I thought it was going to be a slapping

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<v Speaker 2>the wrist, I wouldn't bring it up for conversation. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's important for people to weigh in on this.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's what I think. I mean. If if people

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<v Speaker 2>aren't interested in weighing in on it. UH, then maybe

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<v Speaker 2>they will get a slap of the risk. But I

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<v Speaker 2>think these are pretty egregious actions that the FEDS have

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<v Speaker 2>arrested here. I think Shelley Joseph's action was pretty egregious,

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<v Speaker 2>and she went through a The charges were eventually settled

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<v Speaker 2>because her lawyer is a good lawyer, and he said,

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<v Speaker 2>let's let it be settled by the judicial UH committee,

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<v Speaker 2>by a judicial commission and judicial conduct commission. UH. And

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<v Speaker 2>we'll see what happens there. If it's a slap on

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<v Speaker 2>the wrist, we'll talk about it. Thank you, Bill, We'll

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<v Speaker 2>talk again. Appreciate your call. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, have a.

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<v Speaker 2>Good one six one, seven, two, five four ten thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>you to call. If you think it's unimportant, feel free

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<v Speaker 2>tell me why you think it's unimportant. Back on night

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<v Speaker 1>It's Night Side with Dan Ray on wb Boston's news Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Blue Editorial comment here. Without the tourists, the cap Jaboard

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<v Speaker 2>would have a lot of businesses closing up, let's keep

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<v Speaker 2>rolling here. We're not talking about the Cape. We're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about a couple of judges arrested. Hey William in Baltimore.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back, William.

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<v Speaker 5>How are you?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh right? How you doing?

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<v Speaker 5>Then?

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<v Speaker 2>Just Gray, what are your thoughts on this? I kind

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<v Speaker 2>of laid it out. I took my time to lay

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<v Speaker 2>these folks who are accused of doing.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, you know what, I'm glad you did that, because

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<v Speaker 6>all I've been touching is bits and pieces of him.

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<v Speaker 6>And uh, let's see how you explained it. Yes, I

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<v Speaker 6>think that it is gligious and I believe the last

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<v Speaker 6>phone caller. They are paying this lady. And these are judges.

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<v Speaker 6>That means that they are attorneys who like more than elected.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, that they're what I'm sorry, they're what.

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<v Speaker 6>That means that there are attorneys want Well, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, most judges are lawyers, although in many states where

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<v Speaker 2>judges are elected, I'm not sure that they have to

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<v Speaker 2>be a lawyer because we appoint judges. In Massachusetts. All

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<v Speaker 2>the judges in Massachusetts are appointed by the governor. It's

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<v Speaker 2>one of the great powers that a governor has in Massachusetts,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's a lot of states that works that worked

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<v Speaker 2>that way. I suspect Maryland is similar. But out in

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<v Speaker 2>Wisconsin and others do they Does the governor point the

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<v Speaker 2>judges down your way?

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<v Speaker 6>Some of them are appointed and some of them are elected.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, okay, well, we don't have any elected judges. They're

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, we have elected in the city and the city

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<v Speaker 2>It okay, well we don't have any elected ones. But

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<v Speaker 2>in some states that yeah, they're elected. And I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think that it probably varies from state to state, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure that there must be some state where you

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<v Speaker 2>can become a judge even though you're not a lawyer.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I think in some cases you don't have to

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<v Speaker 6>have some type of explod like in the orphans court

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<v Speaker 6>or something like that. But I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 4>But any well, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, if you got elected as a judge in one

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<v Speaker 2>of these towns, say you know, small town or whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>you're not the only person there. You got some clerks,

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<v Speaker 2>and I suspect that there are people that help guide you. Look,

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<v Speaker 2>when you get elected as a United States senator, The

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<v Speaker 2>you have to be over the age of thirty and

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<v Speaker 2>a US citizen. And I'm sure that there's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of those guys go to men and women go to

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<v Speaker 2>Washington as US senators, and they don't even know how

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<v Speaker 2>to find the bathroom, never mind how to run an office.

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<v Speaker 2>And you have these people who work in for the

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<v Speaker 2>Senate and they are called lifers who they are administrative

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<v Speaker 2>assistants and legal aids and all of that. And when

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<v Speaker 2>one senator gets unseated or retires, they go and work

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<v Speaker 2>for another senator. So they're the ones that really run

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<v Speaker 2>the Senate. In the House, it's not the not the

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<v Speaker 2>elected members in my opinion, but that's another story.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it's good knowing with the you know, with these

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<v Speaker 6>judges and the way you explained it. Yes, I think

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<v Speaker 6>they should be prosecuted, but we'll see what happened. But

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<v Speaker 6>of hand, you know, without with our senator here, Chris

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<v Speaker 6>Vah and Holland and UH and the UH. And what

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<v Speaker 6>Michelle Obama said about she not being able to sleep

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<v Speaker 6>at night, I say, well, and she's not able to

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<v Speaker 6>sleep at night. That's her problem, you know. But uh,

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<v Speaker 6>but the way you explained it, then I'm glad you did, because,

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<v Speaker 6>like I said, I was just getting bits and pieces

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<v Speaker 6>be prosecuted and made the design I.

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<v Speaker 2>Mean, I mean, smash it up a cell phone with

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<v Speaker 4>What you doing?

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, uh and forget the fact that he was

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<v Speaker 2>where the judge and his wife lived or if it

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<v Speaker 2>was a piece of rental property that uh that these

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<v Speaker 2>guys were living at. You know, either way, it's in

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<v Speaker 2>my opinion, it's a problem. Look, I can remember there

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<v Speaker 2>was a judge back in the early nineties. She was

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<v Speaker 2>nominated to federal court. Her name was Kimba Wood. I

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<v Speaker 2>believe she was going to become a federal judge in

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<v Speaker 2>New York, which is a big deal. Bill Clinton nominator

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<v Speaker 2>and it turned out that she had used a housekeeper

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<v Speaker 2>who was not a citizen and did not have legal papers.

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<v Speaker 2>So she was paying somebody under the table, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>to to help her maintain her house. That fact, and

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<v Speaker 2>that fact alone torpedo ended her possibility of becoming a

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<v Speaker 2>federal judge magically. Remember how So it just shows you

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<v Speaker 2>how things have changed. You used to lose your federal

435
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<v Speaker 2>judgeship if you had someone working in your house that

436
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<v Speaker 2>didn't have the right papers. When when we have people

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<v Speaker 2>come to our house, you know, we have I have

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<v Speaker 2>a yard, so I don't cut the grass in my house.

439
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<v Speaker 2>I did a long time ago, but I've given up

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<v Speaker 2>on that. And so I got a great company that comes.

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<v Speaker 2>I have never had the audacity, nor should I expect

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<v Speaker 2>to have the audacity, to say, the guy who owns

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<v Speaker 2>that company, can you show me the papers of all

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<v Speaker 2>these people? Are they illegal? I assume they are okay,

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<v Speaker 2>because frankly, one I don't want to know, and number two,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to start at what what right do

447
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<v Speaker 2>I have to art start asking people? If if he

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<v Speaker 2>files statements that he is only employing Americans or or

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<v Speaker 2>legal people who are illegally, that's fine, that's between him

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<v Speaker 2>and the government. I don't want to get involved in

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<v Speaker 2>that fight.

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<v Speaker 6>So I agree with you, Dan. That's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 6>It's not my job to, you know, walk up to

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<v Speaker 6>somebody who I think is not agreegal, but that's the

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<v Speaker 6>governments job. But people are pointed there to do this,

456
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<v Speaker 6>and there was definitely on the line.

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<v Speaker 4>Man.

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<v Speaker 6>That's all I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you, William, if we trace our family tree,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to be related back there somewhere. I'm simple

461
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<v Speaker 2>as that. Every time I talk to you, I try

462
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<v Speaker 2>to find something we can disagree on, and we don't,

463
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<v Speaker 2>so I think I think we're related somewhere. Hey, William,

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<v Speaker 2>great to your employe, my friend. Thanks to talk to

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<v Speaker 2>you soon. All right, let me keep rolling here. Who

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<v Speaker 2>can I get in here next? I don't want a

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<v Speaker 2>short change, so let me break quickly here one minute early.

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<v Speaker 2>I got David san Antonio. We'll bring him back right

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<v Speaker 2>after the break. I don't want a short change. People.

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<v Speaker 2>I got Dave, I got Joe and Cambridge, I got

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<v Speaker 2>Paul in Dorchester. I got room in one one call

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<v Speaker 2>and we can go into the second hour of this.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd like to do two hours if you want six

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<v Speaker 2>one seven, nine thirty, but the only line open right

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<v Speaker 2>now is six one, seven, two, five, four to ten thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll be right back on Nightside.

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<v Speaker 1>You're on night Side with Dan Ray on w Boston's

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<v Speaker 1>news radio.

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<v Speaker 2>There we go. Let's go down to Texas, deep in

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<v Speaker 2>the heart of Texas. We'll talk with Dave and san Antonio. Dave,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm suspecting you agree with me on whether these judges

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<v Speaker 2>should face the music.

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<v Speaker 4>I both certainly do.

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<v Speaker 5>And the rest of them that are interfering with his

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<v Speaker 5>uh job is going to have to be answered if yes, me,

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<v Speaker 5>all of them, not just the ones on the border,

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<v Speaker 5>but the ones with the the what.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you call it, sanctuary city, sanctuary.

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<v Speaker 5>Cities, some hick judge and Hickville tells all of America

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<v Speaker 5>that Donald can not deport these prisoners.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well that's going to be decided by the Supreme Court.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that Trump is looking for some of those

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<v Speaker 2>fights because, like any president, Democrat or Republican, presidents like

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<v Speaker 2>the power. Okay, there's very few presidents in recent memory

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<v Speaker 2>who are looking to push power back to the States.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, presidents like to they like to be being

497
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<v Speaker 2>president is good is a good thing. Being king is good,

498
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<v Speaker 2>Being president is good.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, but I I certainly agree with you there with

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<v Speaker 5>that that that woman escort and that criminal out of uh,

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<v Speaker 5>out of the grasp of the uh the police.

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<v Speaker 2>But by the way, someone charged with domestic battery.

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<v Speaker 5>I own.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that's now again, you know, I I think

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<v Speaker 2>that he presumed he is he presumed he has the

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<v Speaker 2>presumption of innocence. Okay, but that's pretty strong charge. And

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<v Speaker 2>then the guy down a want of them go smashing

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<v Speaker 2>up the cell phone. I mean, that's something only Hillary

509
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<v Speaker 2>Clinton should be allowed to do.

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<v Speaker 4>Dan.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Dave, I got it all in. Thanks man,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll talk later. Okay, all right, let me get Joe

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<v Speaker 2>and Cambridge in here. Joe, okay, you're in Cambridge. What

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<v Speaker 2>do you say, buddy?

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<v Speaker 7>Hey, hey, Dan, Well, I have a lot to say.

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<v Speaker 7>So to start, they did a great job summing up

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<v Speaker 7>all of those particular cases. I've been kind of following

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<v Speaker 7>them off and on.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, had you had you heard with clarity what

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<v Speaker 2>these got. These these folks, the judge of Wisconsin and

521
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<v Speaker 2>the judge in New Mexico had been charged with That's

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<v Speaker 2>why I took my time. I wanted people to understand

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<v Speaker 2>what the allegations are. Their allegations. They haven't been proven,

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<v Speaker 2>but their allegations, that's what they charged with.

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<v Speaker 7>Mm hmm, yeah, yeah, I did. You did a fantastic

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<v Speaker 7>job in them precisely. So I'm kind of struggling with

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<v Speaker 7>really trying to understand or get to the root of,

528
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<v Speaker 7>you know, what's going on in the brains of some

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<v Speaker 7>of these these judges. I mean, is this a case

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<v Speaker 7>of severe Trump arrangement syndrome? Is is this a case

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<v Speaker 7>you know, is in the case with those two, with

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<v Speaker 7>those two where yeah, they were protecting that that you

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<v Speaker 7>know trend there radwa uh. And by the way, I

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<v Speaker 7>think it was that they're at their primary residence where

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<v Speaker 7>they were housing him.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was unclear from the Department of Justice statement,

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<v Speaker 2>so I did not want to make an assumption. But

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<v Speaker 2>if it was, that's even worse. You know, if it

539
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<v Speaker 2>was at a rooming house, you know, five miles away,

540
00:31:46.839 --> 00:31:48.640
<v Speaker 2>still should know who's renting your property.

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<v Speaker 7>I think, you know, yes, yes, I think I think

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<v Speaker 7>either way they were knowingly you know, protecting him and

543
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<v Speaker 7>housing him, which I guess it doesn't really matter. But

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<v Speaker 7>so in the case with those two, I don't know

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<v Speaker 7>if it isn't the case that there's does this guy

546
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<v Speaker 7>have something on them, you know, blackmailing them. I mean,

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know what.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, maybe, I mean, I don't know. It could be

549
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<v Speaker 2>that they are some people who who firmly believe that

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<v Speaker 2>we don't have a right to have a border. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe maybe they believe that and they see the law

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<v Speaker 2>is Again, if you're a judge, you're supposed to understand that, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>that that if a law is an invalid law, that

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<v Speaker 2>that our system will rectify that absolutely.

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<v Speaker 7>And yeah, I have no doubt, you know, in the end,

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<v Speaker 7>I have no doubt that it's the these people are

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<v Speaker 7>just simply out to you know, disrupt our you know, constitution.

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<v Speaker 7>They're out to disrupt this country, you know, by allowing this.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, Partly, I think it does have to do

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<v Speaker 7>with you know, they're they're fighting against President Trump. But

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<v Speaker 7>either way, at the end of the day, I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 7>I know they have to go through the prosecutes, her process.

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<v Speaker 7>I hope that in each of these cases, me personally,

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<v Speaker 7>I am rooting for the maximum, absolute, maximum sentence, no

565
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<v Speaker 7>mercy whatsoever with each of these cases. In any other

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<v Speaker 7>judges that are, you know, pursuing the similar fashion. I

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<v Speaker 7>don't want to see in this thing about them getting

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<v Speaker 7>paid in the meantime. That's absolutely ludicrous. What I don't

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<v Speaker 7>want to see obviously is are not guilty on any

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<v Speaker 7>of these but a far from that. I don't want

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<v Speaker 7>to see this case where we had here with Tanya Fernandez,

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<v Speaker 7>where she pleads out, you know, on her corruption chargers

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<v Speaker 7>and gets a slap on the wrist. I know she

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<v Speaker 7>got a few months in prison or whatever, but you know,

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<v Speaker 7>that's ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know that she's been sentence ships, and

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<v Speaker 2>I thought that was part of her plea plea bargain

578
00:34:02.759 --> 00:34:05.039
<v Speaker 2>deal with You could have a plea deal which which

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00:34:05.039 --> 00:34:07.720
<v Speaker 2>will say you can be sentenced up to I don't

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00:34:07.799 --> 00:34:11.320
<v Speaker 2>know those those Even on a plea deal, you got

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<v Speaker 2>to wait for the sentence because, uh, sometimes the judge

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<v Speaker 2>will will comply with the agreement. And judges are independent,

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<v Speaker 2>they have an opportunity, particularly when you're talking about somebody

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<v Speaker 2>who is in the public, who's who's an elected official.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a higher standard there as well as a judge.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll find out that's that's I gotta do some work

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<v Speaker 2>on that. Joe I'll try to get an answer for you.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, yeah, yeah, no, no, I know you will.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me try to get two more in here before

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<v Speaker 2>the break if I can do that, And I also

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<v Speaker 2>are sure you excellent call.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks, I'm not a Paul Is in Dorchester. Paul, You're

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<v Speaker 2>next on nightside.

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<v Speaker 8>Go ahead, Hey, Dan, I think that was an excellent

596
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<v Speaker 8>call was just heard. I Uh, I am almost insane

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<v Speaker 8>after three years of balloonhead out of Shifty coming down

598
00:35:01.719 --> 00:35:08.360
<v Speaker 8>saying I've got evidence. I've got evidence, I mean, and

599
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<v Speaker 8>then people in the background like Nancy Pelosi, no one

600
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<v Speaker 8>is above the law, no one is above the law.

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<v Speaker 8>They they made me nuts. I think I think that

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<v Speaker 8>this is obstruction of justice, Dan uh in all these cases,

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<v Speaker 8>I think we kind of missed those midnight appointments that

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<v Speaker 8>Joe Biden pushed through. Of these like two hundred or

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<v Speaker 8>something of these nutty judges. It seems that he just

606
00:35:33.159 --> 00:35:36.360
<v Speaker 8>he just put all these judges in to obstruct and

607
00:35:36.400 --> 00:35:40.400
<v Speaker 8>impede the progress that they just want to block and

608
00:35:40.599 --> 00:35:44.039
<v Speaker 8>impede any progress that the Trump is making. It's it's

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<v Speaker 8>the you know, the the the process is the punishment.

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<v Speaker 8>The uh, these people I do not think are qualified either.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, I'm not a veterinarian, Dan, but I know

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<v Speaker 8>the difference between a dog and a cat. I'm not

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<v Speaker 8>a doctor, but I know the difference being between someone

614
00:36:02.000 --> 00:36:07.079
<v Speaker 8>having ovaries and testicles. I do not think that these

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00:36:07.119 --> 00:36:10.960
<v Speaker 8>people that are in high positions are necessarily all there.

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<v Speaker 8>Because if you got somebody like Joe Biden putting them in,

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<v Speaker 8>God who had who had the auto pen when those

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<v Speaker 8>people went through, you know, I I think I think

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<v Speaker 8>Hedge must roll. I think hang them high. I think

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<v Speaker 8>this is a good stot on on these hundreds of

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<v Speaker 8>judges that are in there. Reiterate no one is above

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<v Speaker 8>the law.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I think that's very important. As as as you

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned Schumer, we used the Schumer comment last night how

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<v Speaker 2>you shouldn't threaten judges, and then him threatening Kavanaugh and Gorsich.

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<v Speaker 2>As I will say, they know how to sing from

627
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<v Speaker 2>the hymnal. They know how to sling it with the

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<v Speaker 2>best of them. Simple as that, Paul, I got to

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<v Speaker 2>get one more in. I'm gonna let you run. Thanks

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<v Speaker 2>as always, thank you the best way. Thank you much. Pete,

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<v Speaker 2>my buddy Pete down in South Carolina. Pete your thoughts.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, hey, my friend, I'm with you all the way

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<v Speaker 4>on this, but I have two points. And the gentleman

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<v Speaker 4>that just said something that you know and I forgot

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<v Speaker 4>about this, that Biden pointed two hundred judges at midnight

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<v Speaker 4>or whatever, can trom pull those.

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<v Speaker 2>Back once you know what happens is once once the

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<v Speaker 2>nomination is made by president. And I don't have any

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<v Speaker 2>information on that to be realised with it. I know

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<v Speaker 2>that he issued a lot of executive orders. He issued

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<v Speaker 2>some commutations and some pardons. I didn't Normally, you don't

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<v Speaker 2>fire two hundred judge, you don't fill two hundred spots.

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<v Speaker 2>But if if the Senate, which is controlled by the Republicans,

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<v Speaker 2>chooses not to act on a nomination, now that the

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<v Speaker 2>Republicans control the Senate, the nomination of someone from President

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<v Speaker 2>Biden dies of its own initiative, uh, and then Donald

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<v Speaker 2>Trump can can nominate. So Donald Trump doesn't have to

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<v Speaker 2>pull something back. All he has to do is watch

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<v Speaker 2>the Senate choose to take no action, because you need

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<v Speaker 2>to have know only the nomination, but the confirmation, and

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<v Speaker 2>the confirmation involves a hearing and then a vote by

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<v Speaker 2>the full Senate, and and those if there were two

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<v Speaker 2>hundred judges nominated, and I don't recall that. Okay, someone

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<v Speaker 2>has a couple of people to mention that I don't

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<v Speaker 2>recall that. It was more that there were two hundred

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<v Speaker 2>people on death row, and I think one hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>ninety seven of them had the death penalty lifted from them.

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<v Speaker 2>That's was the only way that he didn't lift was

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<v Speaker 2>the Boston bomber, the guy down you're that killed the

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<v Speaker 2>black parishioners, and the guy that attacked the synagogue outside

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<v Speaker 2>of Pittsburgh.

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<v Speaker 4>And the other thing I just want to make the

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<v Speaker 4>quick point is the judge or the judges, they are

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<v Speaker 4>supposed to uphol law law, not the same the law

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<v Speaker 4>or break the law.

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<v Speaker 2>Or write the law. They're supposed to follow, follow the

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<v Speaker 2>law and uh and do justice. That's what That's what

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<v Speaker 2>a good judge choose.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, like usually when I call you know, I'm always

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<v Speaker 4>on your side, except when it comes to baseball.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, all right, Well, the Red Sox lost the

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<v Speaker 2>tough one tonight. They were leading the Toronto Blue Jays

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<v Speaker 2>six nothing, and I think the sixth inning and they

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<v Speaker 2>lost seven to six.

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<v Speaker 5>And ten.

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<v Speaker 4>Won.

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<v Speaker 2>Good, Okay, all right, I'll let you run. Thanks, Thank

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<v Speaker 2>you soon. Have a great night.

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<v Speaker 4>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>If you folks want to continue to talk about this,

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<v Speaker 2>I got wide open lines. Let's open it. Let's fill

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<v Speaker 2>them up after eleven. If not, I'm going to change topics.

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<v Speaker 2>I think this is a really important topic. I really

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<v Speaker 2>do back on Night's side after the eleven