Speaker 1: Shhh.
Speaker 2: Tonight's guest is Richard mckimm.
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of treating.
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are new from the start.
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there looking down the house.
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Speaker 5: Hello, Hello, Hey, welcome, Thanks everybody for waiting. Jeff was panicking.
Speaker 8: I wasn't panicking. I was concerned. My camera concerned.
Speaker 5: I got it.
Speaker 8: I think I got it working.
Speaker 5: Here know what's happens right before it's for show.
Speaker 8: And I, yeah, the camera, my camera just died on me.
I think I got it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you look good.
Speaker 8: I disappear it's my camera.
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Speaker 5: So anyway, I hope everybody is doing well. Welcome to
Untold Radio Am, Episode three oh eight from the Untold
Radio studios in Minneapolis, Minneapolis Ish, Minneapolis Ish north of Minneapolish.
And to those who care, we want to give a
special hello to all of the Antolians in chat. I
hope everybody's staying cool and not melting. It was a
I was a hot one hundred and three.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I kind of.
Speaker 5: I'm driving a black truck with a black interior, and
mann does it get warm inside? That's bad? Oh and
then I my granddaughter opened the what do you call
it the shade on the sun roof, and so that
was cooking. I couldn't even sit on the seat. All right,
So what do we got going on tonight? We have
on deck We have a retired Army vet, fifty year
veteran of Bigfoot in paranormal research record, Richard mcandle ish yep,
and he is from Ohio obviously, Ohio is a hotspot.
I don't know why it is, but it is. It's
like so Midwest there, it's so it's like Minnesota. When
every time I go there, it's like I feel like
I'm home. So I don't know, but anyhow, so I'll
have him on here soon. And it's like one hundred
and seventeen degrees fair night in Vegas right now. Could
you imagine? I lived down in Vegas for one summer,
and I remember trying to touch a door handle and
just like you can open it, you needed like a
hot pad to open the door handle. That's what we
need to make. Hot pad for cars. Yvet's mom. By
the way, Vet's mom has a hot pat on her
house store handle because it faces the sun and it
gets so hot people burn their hand on the door handle. Anyhow,
So I don't know, I don't really have anything to
talk about special. Well, yeah I do. I me and
Joey saw something really weird. We were driving back.
Speaker 1: You know what.
Speaker 5: We saw the not deer about there. We're driving and
now we see what we can only both call not
birds a flock of Yeah, okay, how can I describe
this without a picture? If you picture birds with their
wings outspread right and the profile of them, but they're
not flapping, and there's a whole flock of them. And
then they're darting every direction. And these birds are about
the foot wide, you know, wing tip to wing tip.
They're not little birds. And they have like a silver
band on the upper part of what would be like
a fake wing. And there were fifty to one hundred
we didn't count them. But they darted out in front
of our windshield and then kind of moved up towards
a tree. But they were flying like crazy, like bats,
but not one moved their wings. They just went side
to side, up and down. Know what the hell was that? Jeff? Sure, Well,
there was no propellers. A drone fly without propellers.
Speaker 8: You can see them. Who knows that's weird? I don't know.
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, maybe you couldn't see them. What would be
a fly? I mean that would be even weirder to me.
If I saw a bunch of drones attack our truck,
I would think that was even weirder than what we saw.
It's not birds, It was just weird. So that's just
like Joe's like every time we go somewhere, I'm like yep, well,
I said, I was telling them about last time he
and Jeff went through there, we saw not dear, so
there was weird. Yeah, so we'll start our night off
with that weird thing. So you're gonna want to lock
your doors, pull those shades down, get cool, get a
cool beverage like me mm hmm, clean.
Speaker 8: Die city water.
Speaker 5: Yeah right, never mind, there is there ice in there.
Speaker 8: Nope, just just just cold city water. Really okay, keeping
the fridge okay, I believe you.
Speaker 5: Anyhow, So what was I gonna say? I don't know,
so anyhow, Yeah, lock your door, get your comfy chair,
get something cold to drink. And first we do want
to mention something coming soon thanks to Jeff and a
very generous listener that's giving us kickoff money to get
this done. It is a challenge coin numbered Yeah, really cool,
and we'll use them as giveaways. We will put them
up in our merch store. And by the way, uh
you can do you want to put up the the
Unverified Crap T shirt? Yeah, and we'll put up a
link for you too. I know a lot of people
have been writing me say I don't want to get
one of those. They are really cool. There you go
and we'll put a link there. There's a link right
there in chat and we'll put it in the show
description too. Yep, so you'll have to hit the more
button and then you can go and they're there. So yeah,
you'll instantly turn into a good looking person if you
wear the unverified crap T shirt.
Speaker 8: I need to make sure I get one of tho.
Those are cool. I love challenge going. Yeah, nuclear craft.
Speaker 5: I think I think we could spare one for you, Jeff.
We'll give you number two hundred.
Speaker 8: I got to get one of those.
Speaker 5: All right, Well let's get into a weird and oh,
by the way, yes, there is also other merch. A
lot of people don't know. There's merging convert every show
and you can. You can get anything from coffee cups
to hats to whatever, and we do need the support
alost tell people it's too I haven't taken one. I've
been doing that show three years. I've never taken one.
Not one penny.
Speaker 8: O kinds of neat stuff there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, there's all sorts of stuff. You need a
pair of leggings stuff un the old radio leggings. I
could just see it. Enough of that, okay, I've teased
you like five times. I gotta quit. Ah. Yeah, let's
do the news. It's time for weird and fast knees,
all right. Orcas are on the radar. Apparently orcas are
now exploding giant fish, possibly for just for fun. You
would think they would eat them after they would explode them.
Scientists documented orcas holding dead sunfish in position while another
whale charged into them, and I speed smashing the huge
fish into hundreds of pieces. The behavior might create bite
sized food for younger whales, or or it's just simply
an extremely messy orca game.
Speaker 8: But I think they eat those for some reason. I
think those ocean sunfish are not.
Speaker 5: Not very edible. I think there aren't. They called moa
MOA's something like that, and they just kind of float
and drift and they're just huge and massive. And but
orcs are weird. I mean, they're really intelligent, but they've
been attacking boats for fun.
Speaker 8: I think one of the things that they're because they're slowest. Heck,
I think their defense mechanisms. They don't taste very good.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think. I bet you orcers wouldn't taste
very good either, Probably not do Ah Next, moving on,
speaking of fish, uh, scientists discover a contagious contagious keyword
contagious cancer and catfish. So mysterious black gross appearing on
bull heads and catfish and New England and Canada turned
out to be melanoma cells that move between fish like parasites.
That's kind of weird. Weird, it's a uh. It is
the first time transmissible cancer has been discovered in fresh
water animals. I don't know of any cancer that's that
can be transmitted by humans. Do you're gonna hit the
I'm gonna hit the ripper burp button? Hold on, I
didn't really have to. Kind of felt like it. You know,
you know you need a drink ripter. You get the burps,
the dumbest thing you can drink on the air. It says, Uh,
it's about the contagious cancer. Yeah, it says. Researchers say
it poses no threat or danger to people. Okay, I
don't think I want to eat.
Speaker 8: Thank you, no, thank you.
Speaker 5: And next we have a very strange little article. Crop
eating caterpillars may help this story. Styrofoam, a caterpillar notorious
for attacking corn, cotton, and soybean graps. Carries the fungi
in bacteria capable of feeding on polystyrene foam. Scientists isolated
four fungy from the insects and testines that damage styrofoam
in a laboratory tests, although they still need to determine
whether the plastic is completely broken down or merely turned
into microplastics. What could go wrong here? Could you imagine
if they do the genetic thing and then these things
get loose and they breed and everything plastic starts getting
eat and you'll grab your grab something that's made of
plastic and it's got you more arcs on it. No
thanks or holes in your record albums? No thanks, that
would hurt. Oh that would suck records. Did you know
that they there was a guy that came out of
the jungle, the Amazonian jungle, and he had brought a
bunch of CDs, you know those or DVDs, and and
some CDs you know that like silver plating they put
on them. There was some fungus in the jungle that
started eating the aluminum. And they determine this bacteria that
was apparently hidden in the jungle can eat aluminum, which
is normally toxic to every animal, and it has now
gotten loose, just saying that's good. It's gotten loose. So
there you go. What could go wrong? There? What could
go wrong? All right? Next, the mysterious mysterious gats gas
bullllets are racing through space? Do you ever have mysterious
gas bullets racing through your house?
Speaker 8: No comment? Are you gonna be? Okay?
Speaker 1: I'm fine?
Speaker 5: Oh my god, you.
Speaker 8: Have a gas bullet right now?
Speaker 5: No? Oh, I think I had, I've had one about
to come up my throat. Astronomers found clumps of possible
oxygen rich gas traveling up to twenty million miles per
hour from V four four five Pupie, the Milky ways
only confirmed helium nova. The system has been hidden behind
its own dust for more than twenty years, and scientists
still cannot explain how these incredibly fast gas bullets were produced.
So now that's a new name for a fart right
gas bullet?
Speaker 8: Gas bullet? Yeah?
Speaker 5: So there you heard it here, everybody. Look, if that's
all you get out of tonight's show, you got that
going for you. You can just use the term gas bullet.
Speaker 8: Crap and gas bullets.
Speaker 5: Wait, yeah, so that's all you can Maybe that's all
you'll learn tonight the new term gas bullets. All right. Then,
an Arctic squid mother was found raising eggs below freezing
So that's below thirty two degrees paradiit researchers recorded the
first wild footage of a mature Arctic bobtail squid beside
her eggs in northeast Greenland. She was living one hundred
and sixty four feet underwater at about twenty nine degrees fahrenheit,
proving these poorly understood squid can reproduce in one of
the coldest and lease to explore marine environments on Earth.
So there you go.
Speaker 8: It's pretty strange.
Speaker 5: But why would that bother them? I don't know. Sometimes
sometimes I wonder what's weird about these articles? Are they weird?
I guess they are, Okay, weird. They're kind of weird,
all right. The next one, I think it's our last
last one. People are becoming tourists in a place that
doesn't exist, it says. Researchers say. A very creepy internet
legend known as the back rooms has evolved into a
form of digital tourism. Millions of people now explore its
fictional yellow halways through videos and games, maps, virtual reality,
and homemade survival guides collectively building and visiting an imaginary
horror destination.
Speaker 8: I mean, like like a virtual space kind of thing.
Speaker 5: I don't I don't understand any of this. I mean
you haven't a dumb guy read the news right now. Yeah,
I don't know. That's yeah, it's just more unverified crap.
Let's do our clip X. I think they're all really
quick tonight. But they're all they're all quick.
Speaker 8: That's like.
Speaker 5: Clip one. Sound is good. This is a this is
one big, big, big, big big turtle. Or it's completely
unverified crap. He has the But those things can live
up to four hundred years, so maybe that's a real
old one.
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's pretty crazy.
Speaker 5: Could you imagine living four hundred years? Do you remember
those big tortoises at Como Zoo.
Speaker 8: I never saw those, No, you never did.
Speaker 5: Oh my god. I saw those when I was a
little kid, and you know, you could ride them. They
let you ride them, and they just didn't care, and
you'd sit on them and they were just they were
just two of them, and you would just go there
and do whatever you want to do. Poor tortoises. They
were there, and I remember taking my kids there and
they were still there and I and I wonder if
they're there anymore. Probably not.
Speaker 8: I haven't been in since this little kid. I don't
remember that.
Speaker 5: You don't remember the tortoise. That's right.
Speaker 8: I've go los there once when I was a little kid.
Speaker 5: That's because, yeah, it's because that was what when you
were a little kid was like nineteen ninety two.
Speaker 8: I was born in seventy two, so whatever I'm giving you,
that was the sixties.
Speaker 5: All right, next clip too, This sound is good. This
is weird now, oh oh, never mind. This is another
turtle clip, A speed of turtles. Go ahead and play
this one.
Speaker 7: Nobody talks about this, but turtles can actually breathe through
their butt. Yep, it's real. I even had to look
at it myself. It's called chloacal respiration. Sounds crazy, but
it's an incredible survival mechanism. They have specialized sacks within
their tail that allows them to absorb water and take
that oxygen out of the water, giving them the ability
to stay underwater for hours, even in shur in the wintertime.
I think turtles probably have the strangest superpower out there.
Reptiles be weird, all right, that's enough gas bullets.
Speaker 5: Can you wou'd be great if you could breathe your butt.
Speaker 8: I can't think of I can't think of a situation
where I would need to do.
Speaker 5: That would be handy of you when swimming and then
you're upside down. I got down, tail up. He gets
you can breathe your butt, all right? Clip to This
is neat This is lightning in a bottle, and it's
apparently mercury in a vacuum with neon gas, no electricity.
But this is what it what it does when you
shake it. Of course, mercury is holy toxic. Don't so impressive.
I just I'm shocked at works this well. I would
never guess that. I look that the mercury gets caught
in the top that falls out.
Speaker 8: Really cool.
Speaker 5: Wow, this is one of the coolest things I've ever made.
Don't make it at all.
Speaker 8: Yeah, mercury is not good for you.
Speaker 5: No, it's extremely toxic. But I used to play that.
I was a kidd bottles of it.
Speaker 8: Oh my god, I didn't know any better.
Speaker 5: It's like, hey, dad, I got some more mercury. Oh
have fun.
Speaker 8: Okay, you didn't know now.
Speaker 5: If that happened and you dropped it. They would call
that hasthmat crew. All right, clip for the sound is good.
Apparently there's a big invasion of these.
Speaker 8: Uh that clip did not come through it.
Speaker 5: Oh it didn't.
Speaker 8: That's okay, I didn't get that one. This is the
bear one.
Speaker 5: Well, let's skip to the bear in the air.
Speaker 8: I bet everybody see this one. My house is pretty cool.
Speaker 5: Well, but is this real? That's my question.
Speaker 8: I'm pretty sure it is.
Speaker 5: I'm on the highway. Are you calling about a bear? Yeah,
it's alive. Yeah, okay.
Speaker 7: And they said there's nothing that they could do.
Speaker 5: They could go in and shoo it, tranquilize to.
Speaker 4: Get it down.
Speaker 5: It will just fall that.
Speaker 9: Then it's going to fall and could hurt itself.
Speaker 5: So that well, you know, I've seen them do They
bring nuts out and let it fall into a trampoline
and then sometimes they bounce out of the trampoline. I've
seen that too. They got one in my neighborhood that
was bothering people and they used the trampoline and it
bounced out and landed on the ground. Anyhow, all right,
clip sex, it's the last one. It's good. Sound. This
is kind of interesting because we're going to have a
twelve meter tall object. It's about to crash into the
Moon at eight thousand miles an hour eight eight thousand
kilometers an hour.
Speaker 9: Go ahead, something is about to crash into the Moon.
Astronomers are tracking. This object is about twelve meters tall,
which is like a four story building and four meters
wide as it approaches the Moon.
Speaker 6: We know what it is.
Speaker 9: It is the four thousand kilogram upper stage of a
SpaceX Falcon nine rocket and it has been drifting through
space for the past year and a half after it
launched two missions towards the Moon. Over six hundred and
eighty Falcon nine rockets have been launched. Most of these
upper stages have either re entered Earth's atmosphere or are
also still stromitting close to Earth. But after this one completed, it's.
Speaker 5: Six hundred and eighty launches of that rocket.
Speaker 8: That's insane. It's been busy. Ho well those are a
bit yeah, I just.
Speaker 5: I can't even go branded. All right, we're back to
the week fact your favorite bumpers.
Speaker 8: It is like this one.
Speaker 2: It's now time for untold radio weird Fact of the
Week that is kind of weird.
Speaker 5: Hello, Jeff, We're about to go and do Weird Factor
of the Week, but I want to let everybody know
Richard is in the back round. Yep, Hello Richard. We're
gonna get you soon, all right. So weird fact of
the week. Some people may or may not know this,
but octopuses have three hearts. They have blue blood because
it's made of its copper based, not iron based, and
they have two hearts. One pumps blood to the gills
and one pumps blood to the body.
Speaker 8: I'm pretty sure they're aliens.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 8: They're not related to anything else. They are bizarre.
Speaker 5: You know what. The weirdest part of the weird Factor
of the week is his beautiful artwork hand hand ron mhmm,
hand drawn by North American uh, fairy artists. Yeah, a
little tiny creature indus through those all right. Anyways, that crap, Yeah,
enough of that crap. So we want to do do
we want to do a little bit of audience trivia
or not? Should we get Richard on? We should just
get Richard on?
Speaker 8: Yeah, we can see the Tribune and if we have any.
Speaker 5: Time, we will we will do that. And what could
we get? What can we give away in a knot contest?
I know? Another unverified crap t shirt. So we'll come
back to that. Yeah, we'll come back to that. Maybe
even Richard will play. Yeah, all right, so uh let
me uh probably call for a quick break in him
take a real quick break.
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the info on the New York Bigfoot conference and before
we bring Richard on. Well that's fine, so let me
talk about Richard. Oh, there you go. Just let people know,
please get your tickets. I will be there. We've got
Derby York, Ken Gearhart, Lauren Coleman, We've got Maria Mayor
from Expedition Bigfoot, myself, Adam Davies, and then town hall
host Steve Calls. It should be really good. And so
that's October second is like free and put your ticket.
We'll get you in for the speakers to the third
and come and hang out in beautiful Gloversville, Johnstown, Gloversville. Yeah,
there's a bar code. There are a QR code and
you can scan it. You can rewind it and scan it.
What do we got here? Okay. Richard McCandleish is a
sixty three year old disabled veteran, and he served in
the Army for six years before being honorably discharged. McCandleish
is a retired percussionist. I think they mean drummer, right,
who played with many stars on tour. We'll have to
get into that a little bit. He wrote music for
Atlantic Records, which has been put on hold. Richard enjoys catfishing,
metal detecting, and being in the woods when he's not
writing his Harley Nice h with his wife Diana mcandle ish,
has been researching Bigfoot and other paranormal entities for over
fifty years. And I think me and Joe saw some
of those weird entities. I don't know what the hell
we saw. What category would you put that in? Jeff?
Birds that don't look like birds and don't.
Speaker 8: Fly ice rangers?
Speaker 5: I guess I don't want his video. Let's let's welcome Richard.
Speaker 8: Welcome Richard there he is. Hey, good to see you.
Speaker 5: How are you doing, Richard?
Speaker 1: Oh? Pretty good yourself.
Speaker 5: I'm doing good. It's good to meet you.
Speaker 1: Yanks show.
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, you're in you're in Ohio? What part of Ohio?
Speaker 10: Are you in?
Speaker 1: Southeastern?
Speaker 5: Southeastern? Okay? And is that is that more mountainous? Is
that more flat?
Speaker 1: Well, we got the the bottom part of the Appalachian
Mountains down here, the Hawking Hawking County where Old Man's
Cave is and patch. That's all.
Speaker 5: Now you've obviously you've been doing this a long time.
It were longer than me. How did you get into it?
And what happened? What caused the kind of life devotion
to this topic? H What was the accident?
Speaker 1: What started with my our new neighbors that moved in
across the street from us, and that was back in
nineteen seventy two, and his name was Rusty and he
was like five six years older than me at the time,
and he said he came over as we've been friends,
and he said, hey, I want you to come come
and uh listen to something, okay, And uh so we
got on the railroad tracks and we were walking and
we got up to the bridge. Hey, gets now we
got to climb up over the bridge and get out
there on this big sandstone pillar that the bridge is
sitting on, and we just got to sit here at
this creek and listen, I said, okay, And uh so
we were sitting there for an hour or two hours,
three and I said, hey, man, I said, what what
you know? He's like, man, just be quiet, just be
quiet and listen. I said, okay, your butts fell like lead,
you know. And and then about that time you heard
this bunch of trees breaking in the distance up the creek,
and then a giant flash sounded like a cow was
you know, jumped in it or some but uh wee can.
For the longest time, we couldn't figure out. It didn't
happen all the time, It just happened every now and
then we he said that thing's out there, come and listen.
We're going to listen to it again, and would come back.
And we didn't know what it was. But then we
was working at the feed meal at the time, and
our pay was, you know, a bottle of pop and
a bag of peanuts at the end of the day.
And we the old mill and hear these old men,
you know, tell their stories and cackling and stuff, and
that one old gentleman said, hey, Clarence, is that old
Howler up your way yet? And we kept thinking to ourselves, like, Howler,
what's some kind of a mad dog or something. And
we didn't know at the time, but things unfolded as
what I know now what I didn't know? Then things
just kind of fell into place because down the road
it was we couldn't I couldn't figure out what that
splashing sound was. And then moved to nineteen seventy five,
and my buddy Russy said, Hey, you got to come
and check this place out. Because he hung around with
some other friends that you know, we're older than me.
And when he got done with them, he come over
and we go hang out, and he said, this place is,
you know, uh close to Logan. I'm like what he said,
because we had to ride our bicycles out there and
uh and it's like, uh twelve maybe twelve miles outside
of the town from there and on one of the
roads that are listed on the Give us a book
World's Record. Let's take more lives than the real dead
Man's Curve, and I'm gonna ride the ball. We're riding
bicycles on this going to this place that he called
him and his friends called the pit and in a
border between one of the three counties that I investigate
research and which is Perry County, Fairfield County, and Hawking County, Ohio.
And one day I was out there by myself, and
that was in nineteen seventy five at the age of thirteen,
and that's what I saw for the first time in
my life. It just scared me to death. I saw
the back end when I climbed down to the creek
and came up just like a excoosey like pool above
these where the two giant where the two waterfalls is
down here. And when I was climbing down in I
started to climb up to the top and when my
eyes cut the falls across the top, I saw it
right across the falls from me. It had to be
like an alpha male because this thing was giant. I
only saw the back of him, but it was a
bigfoot and I just I just froze. I just I
didn't At the time, I was like, I didn't know
what it was. I'm kind of beast. I was staying
on the other side of the wall, but it was
looking away from me. And one I know now. What
I didn't know then was they knew I was there,
or it knew I was there. But uh, I just uh.
Throughout the years, I was just I just had to
see this thing again. I didn't care what it cost me.
I just but I never told anybody. I never told
any of my other friends. Even when I was in school,
I never told anybody what was going on. Uh. And
then when I got out of school, even when I
went uh to the military, I never told anybody in
the military. And then when I came back, I was
on the trail again. And it's cost me a dear
friendships and uh and it's cost me my first marriage
and it's cost me more friendships. And it's like it's like, well,
what's it going to take, you know, to satisfy you know, me,
my personal self. Uh two, Uh, I can't to start over,
like I said, Uh, I never really meant for this
stuff to be out in the public. Uh. This wasn't
for the public. This is just for me and my
friends and personally and uh. And a picture leaked out
and I guess they wanted me to prove myself. I
don't have to unapprove. It's just a hobby of mine
that I did with my friend Rusty and uh, and
things just you know how things are spied out of
control and like a dog broke off a chain on
a you know, like a Tri state dog guide and
didn't come back. You know, I just had to see
this thing. And then but when I'm trying to find
this bigfoot critter, I'm running into other things out there, concryptids,
call what you want. I've seen some things that I
just can't I don't have any answers for. And and
I've had not just me and my personal self. I
have witnessed things so much Doug and Jeff that I've
actually had people come out and witness these things. And
I even hired a skeptic on my team, David Levern,
just to you know, because I take my stuff out
to these bigfoot, you know, vestibal things whatever, but I
don't have anything for sale on my boot that people
come up and they go, how much is that track
for sell on us? I'm not here to sell anything, buddy,
And they're like, well, what is your stand? I go,
this is my hobby and this is what is out
in your out here in our national forest, believe it
or not. I'm not here to make you believe. It's
just this is what's in your backyard. Do you tell
me what you think you're looking at? And uh, because
a couple of the two or three of these things
are not fruit, not in berry eaters. You can look
at that. You've seen the tracks. They're a predator stalker,
meat eater. And I just, like I said, I just
and then just one thing led to another. And then
when I found out that's what that big splash was
down the road was, that's where the bigfoot was fishing.
And that's how I knew down the road trying to
find this critter because I was tracking down to the
ears on the hilt the mountaintops. I followed him up
there watching fallen Wood talk all the way down to
the flats, now down to the creeks. He's running the creeks,
and uh, that's what told me.
Speaker 5: Uh, you know to look for and have you experienced trees,
entire trees coming down near you in the forest, Uh,
my whole trees.
Speaker 1: I mean I've heard the big giant snipe breaks and
and not know the big thump of the the other
the peace landing. You hear big loud crack and no
big thumb and then you hear it like he's running
taking or going off in the woods with it. Uh,
and then drops it or whatever he takes off ando.
But but no, that's how I going back to that
one part. I was where. That's how I could tell
that he was fishing, because when we got in the
creek and went over there to where he was at
a few days later, you could look up on the
bank and see shiny little minnows, dried minnows, hundreds of them.
That's what he was doing. That's how we could tell.
When you're walking the creeks and look up, you can
see it like just one section where like a tidal
wave it hit it, and you can see the little
sparkles up there, dried minnows, And I'm like, yep, he
was fishing right here.
Speaker 5: Well, what do you think they're doing? Can you explain
what you think or how they fish? What would be
your guess? What I mean?
Speaker 1: Well, Doug, I've seen a few things in the creek.
I've seen it to where they've had a log up.
I've seen three logs in one area where they've had
one log up there to where they diverted the water
and they brought two other logs in and had a
big and this but at the very tip of it
to where they were in a v and I've walked
into it to where a couple of times like ooh,
that's that's full of crayfish and and minnows and it's
just filled to the brim and uh. And that told
me I came onto a uh another uh bigfoot feeding
uh place where he's catching fish. And then the other part,
like I said, is where they they'll walk up along
the side of a creek and uh looking for a
spools of fish and then they just jump in cause
a big tidal wave and splashed up on the bank
and you can see you'll just pick what he wants
and then there's a little a ton of those little
minnows left. They die up there and they can see
the sparkles up on the banks.
Speaker 5: So they use so they use like a displacement method.
They just leap in. So if you took like a
bowl of water and put cheerios in there and they
just kind of bang and they the stuff overflows out
of the sides and like minnows and small fish. That's interesting.
I guess that might be really effective in a small
creek like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's what I'm teaching. My other partner, Larry Ramsey,
he's my second hand man. He's he's one on training
and he he's going really good. I really appreciate him
what he does and coming down and also David Levering
is being a skeptic too, and.
Speaker 5: That somebody called the Sasquatch tsunami. Eric. Yeah, yeah, that's interesting.
That really is I'm thinking about. I can get a picture,
and I guess I am. What's interesting is we had
a guy on Richard that says he was walking by
a small pond and then, you know, in the night,
he wanted to test his bike out and he gets
near on the pond with his bike and he hears
a big godooge like a dip charge, kind of like
you described. And then he got curious and laid his
bike up against a tree, thinking he's going to try
to see a beaver something, and he sees a big
rock flying at him, a huge rice that it was
like massive, like three feet two feet two and a half,
you know, and it just landed near him with a
big adoution. So maybe that's maybe that bigfoot was fishing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I could see that would.
Speaker 5: Work even with a rock, a huge rock.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't uh. I mentioned this also to another
friend of mine. We just became friends. We didn't know
each other at the time, but his name's Kane Michaels
down here in Hawking and he called me one day
and he said, Richard, is there anything that I could
amp up the activity here at my place? Because he's
he's got Bigfoot activity over there big time. And I said, yeah, well,
I'm looking at your property and looking down here at
your pond and everything. I said, yeah, there's probably one
another thing you could do. And he said what's that?
And I go. He had two these half sunken boats
over there by by this tree in his pond, and
I said, get them out of there and get them
away from that tree over there. And he's like why,
I said, because I seen spawning poles over there, of tidepoles.
And he said, okay, well what I go? Well, I said,
I'm telling you down here with this is that. I said,
watch if I wouldn't be surprised that the Bigfoot. When't
you wake up in the morning some morning and you
look down there and there'd be a big branch broke
off your tree down there. It's where he had taken
that branch with the whole leaves on it and shoved
it down in his pond right there and rolled it
like cotton candy all that frog larvae and all the
tidepoles and pulled it back up and started eat it.
And sure enough, within a week later he called and said, Richard,
he said, that's what exactly. There's a big branch broke
off my tree and there's a frog all over there
in the side of the pond down there.
Speaker 5: Interesting. Interesting, Yeah, yeah, I would have. I would imagine
we haven't even considered all of the different foods that
they would go after. Since we're talking about food, is
there any other foods that are kind of odd that
we wouldn't think of that you've noticed.
Speaker 1: Well, here's a moment it ISRAELI bugged me for the
longest time, Doug. I was in this area and I saw, uh,
there's like a bigfoot you Uh, I'm standing out there
by the edge of this cornfield. He kind of I
thought it looked like it was sick or something. It
just kind of stood there from it and just kind
of lumpered around and just you know, went down and
what I didn't know, Uh, I think he just took
a nap up. But he came out of there and
he went right over right beside this wild mustard patch
right beside the cornfield. There was a little pass of
the wild mustard there. He wasn't eating that. He picked
it up and he put into his mouth. No no, no, no,
like I was sucking on it, and he threw it
down and everything, and I'm like, well, what's the attributes
for wild mustard? I was thinking, what, he's not eating us,
so what's the attributes on it? And they set us
off the charts on all vitamin's, minerals and everything else
like that, And I said, yeah, yeaheah, yeah, I know that.
But I said, but it's not he's not eating it.
Speaker 5: And then.
Speaker 1: Years later I found out, Uh it was a uh
it's the aphids lay their eggs underneath the leaves of
the wild mustard plant. Now what's the attributes of the
aphid eggs? And it contribute to stomach problems? Okay, get
curious stomach? Oh anything with the intestinal Okay, just as
like you know you see a bunch of horrehound roots
tore up.
Speaker 5: Well, well yeah, and even I mean even mustard alone
has got a lot of properties, even anti cancer properties. Yes,
it's interesting immune imm you know, help, but did you
actually find like the leaves on the ground too, and
the stems Yeah, he just.
Speaker 1: Pull up a whole shoot from the roots up and
he just takes it right around from the root and
he just like no, no, no, no, no. He just
suck on it all the way to the end. He
just tossed it down and he was off the bottom.
Speaker 5: Oh so it was just like wet and pushed down
more like. Yeah, it wasn't chewed, it was just sucked off.
Speaker 1: Just just suck the eggs, run off the leaves, all
about that, just fasten it down.
Speaker 5: Well, what does it feel? What is it feel like
when you when you find something odd? Because what other
animal would just suck mustard shoots? Yeah, it seems it
seems like odd. I can't I can't picture any other
animal doing that.
Speaker 1: Well, another thing another thing they do too is I've
noticed the uh where you don't see no tracks or
you don't see anything. Well, it's hard to find the tracks,
but to know where he's been, uh right one the
cocktails all right their peak rightness, or the where you're
where your cone cotton I call it. Your cork is
real tight and hard. And the shoots are dark green,
some of them are really dark green. He'll get in
the pond down there and he'll just they they snap
off the uh, just certain you know, just like a
dog when you let him loose in the yard, he'll
go over and here he won't eat all who eat
only certain shoots of grass for his stomach. Well there
they snap off, just certain green shoots. That's the way
out out there, not up close to the edge upon
it's out further because that way you know that well
deer didn't go clear out there to eat the you know,
the cattails out that way out there, that's too deep. Yeah,
so now it's the big foot walking through and there
ain't really a lot of food there. Fish, they're really
a lot of they'll snap off the green tips, tall
tall pieces. They just snap it off and eat it.
Speaker 5: And what what what maturity level where those cat till
tips are? They They haven't they haven't seated yet, right,
this is pre seeding.
Speaker 1: Yes, where they're just they're like a black and like
a dark burgundy collar red tight and you'll see it's
dark green shootes before they turn brown at the tips.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I've I've yeah, I've picked them a few times and
eating them like in butter and a pan, and you know,
actually tastes kind of like a little oniony kind of
like a potato sort of starchy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Pioneer mashed potatoes.
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh yeah yeah. And man, is there an endless
supply of cat tails where these creatures hang out? Yes,
just an endless And I always wondered. I always used
to People would say, well, why do they show up,
you know, in Minnesota in the spring. I said to me,
the first thing up is the cat tails, and they're
delicious and highly nutritious. Maybe they come up to a
feast on that. Yeah, what time of year was that
for you guys? What time of year?
Speaker 1: That's just uh, the beginning of July. Actually here where
the cattails are tight and bloom right now, just uh
July right now.
Speaker 5: I guess. I guess I never paid attention as to
when they look like that. Okay, I gotta I gotta
start like trying to pin down when in Minnesota they're edible? Yeah,
I remember, like I remember, me and my daughter we
went out, we harvested a bunch and we cooked them up,
and she, you know, we liked him. We actually ate
everything we harvested. Interesting, Okay, what else? Obviously, I think
you're one of the few researchers. I've run into that.
Other than like Russ Jones, Doctor Russ Jones, there's a
lot of noticing of, you know, things details like you have, Richard,
I like your details. Anything else that comes to mind
that you found, like ooh that could be a food
source or that you've wondered about. You know.
Speaker 1: Uh, I've seen and I've heard a lot of things
out there. One of the uh, one of the things
is I, uh, I've ran across where it was weird. Uh. Again,
this was at another gentleman's house, a Kne's house, and
I told him we're walking and I told him, I said, hey,
stop and he's like what And I said, wat's that
over there? He said what? We're looking up into? The
pine grows up there and he goes, what a piece
of bark And I'm like, yeah, that piece of bark.
And they're like, well, what about it's a piece of
bark up there in the pine, and like yeah, I said,
but that's oak. What's oak going in out here in
the middle of pine? And they can't walk there? And
he lifted it up and uh, there's seventeen in track
underneath it. It put that piece of Barker's track to
hide it. Oh and uh, and I've, like I told
you know a few people out there. I go, when
you're looking at certain structures, I mean you got to
look at mother nature too. Mother nature likes to play
a lot of tricks and there and what I call
would talk. That's the stick language of the the bigfoot
that I try to follow.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 1: It's not out there all the time. It's not just
you see it all the time. It's a it's directional
h And it's like a it's a directional thing. And
it's also like a picture graph what they use uh
in traveling. How they let when the male goes through
and then the female and the little one follow Uh.
They I call it stick would talk And it's the
glyfts or whatever. Yeah, they're symbols that they put on
the ground.
Speaker 5: Yep.
Speaker 1: And then there's mid top up where.
Speaker 5: Well what have you noticed? What do you think? What
do you think is being communicated with those glyphs?
Speaker 1: Well, they're uh, like I said, when you're out in
the forest and you see like for instance, you see
the X. You see everybody sees the axes, me stay
out whatever. Uh, But there's other ones that's that are
only about five foot tall and uh. And when you
see those, usually it'll have the X and it'll have
a stick leaning in the front of it. And that's
usually uh. Usually the bigfoots signed to tell uh the
human person you know. Uh, the stick is warning to
the stick walker, backpacker hiker to stay on the trail. Uh.
That's what that symbol means.
Speaker 5: And uh.
Speaker 1: And usually when you find in an a symbol with
a with a stick laid out across the top or
usually a stick, big stick or a long land across
the top out in the four somewhere, it usually means
a good cover. They like. This means good cover, That's
what I've So.
Speaker 5: Are they communicating then to their their you know, family members.
Speaker 1: Or yes, and to other ones too?
Speaker 5: Do you do you think they hang in a real
loose group like they could be a mile apart? Do
you think they actually are together at times like only
at night? Do you think they spread out? Do you
think they eat together? What are your thoughts?
Speaker 1: Well, what I've noticed here, Doug, This is here in
the three counties that I've done in fifty years. I
don't know what they do anywhere else, but I know here, Uh,
there's usually three families, three males, three females, and usually
they have they're young with them. It's usually in the
young within those three families. Uh, there's two little two
males and one female. Because when they're growing up being
in that family unit, one of those males growing up
is going to claim that female. And they don't do
it in a struggle or fight or anything like that.
They what I've seen and what I've heard was they
do they claim their female and the test of strength
and power, like what you know, go up there and
I can knock this tree. Now, well I can't do that. Well,
you know their strength is biblical.
Speaker 5: We're gonna we're going to talk about their strength too.
I have a feeling you've experienced it somehow.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, some level.
Speaker 5: So I love how you kind of have a three
D handle on family members right in these groups. How
did you kind of come to that conclusion? And I'm
not doubting you at all, Richard, I'm not doubting you
one little bit. I'm just want to want you to
pass on information.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's you know, I'm fine. I'm glad you said
that because I wish I've been saying this for the
longest time. If real researchers Doug would get together and
show just whoever the top person is in that group,
don't have to show the whole group where just if
the real researchers would show their information on their sightings, whatever,
then you're going to see a correlation because I proved
I proved that. I proved that with another individual.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because I just have a feeling that there's going
to be other people are going to hear some of
your theories and ideas and things you've notice to the years.
Fifty years is half a century you're doing this. People
need to listen to you.
Speaker 1: You're not like, I'm not no expert, no no, no,
I realized.
Speaker 5: But you've got fifty years of experience, right, I don't
think there's any experts, but you've noticed things that you
can you can share and other people can connect their
own dots and go, damn it, I saw something, you
know what I mean? I saw that too one time,
and then you two can hook up and compare notes
and so on. That's like, I agree, we all need
to communicate way more.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because the public there's there's there's more questions than
there's evidence. But the evidence is there. It might be
in somebody's uh house or somebody you know, like you know,
most a lot of people won't come out and talk
about things. But if there's if some people some would
come out, you know, and just show the researchers they're
evidence or talk about it, then we can answer some
of these questions that people have just by Just like
when me and Kane first got together, we didn't know
anybody from Adam, and I told him, I said, if
you just show me your map, just show me your map.
And when we got together and we put our maps together,
it was only like a sixteenth of finance off of
the route of travel between my three counties and his
three counties. Where I stopped out, where I stopped he stopped,
and it was lined up right there, just like that.
You wouldn't believe the correlation.
Speaker 5: Okay, somebody just wrote, I just put it up. He said,
nobody can put this puzzle together alone. Yeah, that's some
really good wisdom.
Speaker 1: Because there's just too much now anymore. Back in the seventies,
you don't know this, Doug and Jeff. Back in that
time period, in these towns, rural towns, it was like
a forest, so a forest. Everywhere you you was in
a forest before you got to the National Forest. In
these little towns you bought drive into it was like
driving into a tunnel. And now it's like, well, welcome
to ball to America because everything is there, ain't no
shade or anywhere. You going to these towns. It's wide
open fields and a lot of these farm fields are abandoned.
Now what used to be Lost Forest, Oh that headed
out of Old Man's Cave area, it went into these
rural towns. It just it was always you know, but
now it's now. They just sold two thousand and seven
and eight having one hundred acres to the oil and
gas rights people, and now they're going to be fracking
out here in the National Force.
Speaker 5: It's like, yeah, that's not Yeah, that stuff hurts to see.
I I agree. They just tore down a huge force
near me that I did research in and it just
bulldozed it all down.
Speaker 1: Oh wow.
Speaker 5: And of course they never consult with anybody. You know,
it's you see that. I love it. You see the
for sale sign going up usually you know X amount
of acres for sale, and and I've even called to
try to buy some of these areas. And maybe get
a bunch of people together to save them. And they're
always like, no, no, that's slated for blah blah blah.
They already have made their mind up, and you know,
they don't want to sell it. They want to develop
a big difference. Oh yeah, they want to continue to
make money. They don't want to just sell it. When
they don't they don't continue to make money on it.
They want to sell it and make money on it
long into the future. So they're not selling it to
any conservation groups. It's not going to happen. Yeah, data
centers and all sorts of crap. But a lot of these,
like strip malls, these developers build and then they want
to rent them out and so they'll continue to make money.
But anyhow, long story, my change or wea change the subject.
I was asking you whether you had noticed anything else.
And I hate to catch off guard on this, but
if you noticed anything else. Richard had one food like meat, deer?
How they would kill deer or do they eat you know,
have you noticed that they're not eating as much meat?
I mean, what have you just their diet?
Speaker 1: What do you what do you?
Speaker 5: Where? Does where does your brain go? After fifty years.
Speaker 1: Well, I had there was one freaky answer to them.
But there was one incident that I had. I was
on this knoll and I saw it looked like a
From where I was at, it looked like a like
a mid used or so it might have been bigger.
But I was looking at him across from this mountain
range over here over to another one, and he was
looking at something on the other side. I'm like, okay,
was he looking? And then all of a sudden, when
he took off, it was like he ran through the mountain,
I mean over the nole type, but it didn't look
like he ran over the noise. It looked like he
went through the noll. And know how to explain it,
I went, oh, man, I was like lightning speed, and
I'm like, what did he see? And and I kept
looking down where he would be coming out down at
the bottom, off to the left of me, and uh,
And then I caught something way off to the right,
and there he was going. He had a deer. He
got a deer, And I'm like, oh, oh man, I
wish I wish I could have saw him take that
deer down. I don't you didn't hear nothing, You didn't
hear anything, not a noise of people or a squeal
or nothing. And next thing you know, off he goes.
He's already gone down. I already took an off. And
then the other incident was I was at the pit
and I walked, Uh it was in the little pines
past the one of the uh, in this pine little thicket,
and there was three deer hide. I mean, there was
blood all around the trees and this this little area
of blood everywhere, and the the pelts were ripped. There's
three pelts ripped off and thrown in in this little
area right there, and there's in the pine grove are wow.
And uh there was no no meat, there's no deer,
no bone, no none, but just something that ripped the
hids off of three deer. And uh, and.
Speaker 8: What we'll do that?
Speaker 5: I mean, it would be a lot to pack out
for if it was a poacher. They're gonna take something,
but they're gonna leave, you know, they're not gonna carry
the bones away and they're not gonna carry all that.
And one another thing, God, go ahead.
Speaker 1: No, I didn't mean I was gonna say. The other
thing was, uh, you seen where where somebody's cleaned the deer,
or even if a poacher was there where he's addressed
a deer.
Speaker 11: Uh.
Speaker 1: I've read across a dress, a dress out to where
this was in the morning. Uh, it looked fresh, like
something just killed it. But if you go up and
touch it, all the all the innerds was frozen solid. Okay. Uh.
What was left there was uh, the heart, the liver, Uh,
the lungs, the testings.
Speaker 11: Uh.
Speaker 1: And the brain was set out on the side, and
there was about there's a section about this long of
its spine, the deer's spine where I was eating down
mold down the points on it was mouled down to
a like a rounded corn cob, like like they're taking
they're taking the backstrap. Yeah, which is the you know,
obviously one of the best cuts, the best meat. Don't
I don't understand for the brains being out there.
Speaker 5: That's really weird. And there was no skull anywhere nearby,
no skull.
Speaker 1: Right, there was nothing there just except for like you know,
he just dressed that deer. Just all the guts and
jerds are there. But the brain was there, the heart
delivered the lung it was all there.
Speaker 5: And and why don't was the head of the deer there, Richard,
the actual was the deer skull.
Speaker 1: There no skull there, just except for the innards. And
like I said, and this brains is there and uh
and the section of its uh spine that was eating
down like a corn cob.
Speaker 5: Geez, that's weird.
Speaker 1: Yeah what what what did that?
Speaker 5: Have you ever examined their like if you do find
a dead deer their legs to see if they've been
twisted or broken or obviously you've heard Matt Moneymaker's stories
of finding deer without the liver, Piles of deer, you know,
with twisted, twisted legs, with the legs are broken, but
yet just the liver is gone.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, no I heard, Oh you haven't.
Speaker 5: Okay, that goes way back to Matt's early days when
he was living in Ohio. Okay, And I've got I've
taken calls from like D n R people where they go.
Why would there be a pile of deer with the
legs broken, legs twisted and broken? And I was thought, well,
if you were gonna have nature's refrigerator, you would take
a deer, you would, you know, break its legs, capture
it and make it it mobile, but keep it alive. Yeah,
I mean that makes sense. You know, it's horrific, but
it makes sense to me. It does. So I don't know,
I don't know what your thoughts on on on deer,
but but that's a weird story you just told.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I've seen in the forest. I've seen ah
since that says some weird stuff, But I've seen deer
bone out in the middle of nowhere, uh lick clean
white laying uh uh, laid out on a lull one
piece off there, just laid out and ie and perdie
right long. I don't know, and.
Speaker 8: I don't know what would do that. That's crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And uh, it's like a time where I went
on that. Uh. One of the scariest moments that I've
had was or I went on that. Uh the call
they called and said I was the closest one to
go to it. And I went out to this gentleman's
house and mocks a hala ohio and uh. And when
I got there, this eighty year old man he comes out,
he says, you, So you're the fellow. You're the big
foot feller to come to to check this out for me,
aren't you. Yeah, that'd be me and uh, he said, well,
he said, I want you, I want you to come
in the house. I was hoping to go down to
the farm part, you know, take a look around and know.
He wanted me to come in the house and he said,
he said come around here is come over here. So
I said, you look, you see out this wonder right here?
He said, look down there, you see the corn crib.
He said that thing was bigger than the corn crib
that walked by. He said, I just wanted you to
see from in here where I was standing, to see
where that thing went by. And I said okay. So
he went down there and I said, you don't got
into farm mantels. He said, now my walk. We got
rid of him a long while ago when I when
my wife passed away, and I said, what, I ain't
really much here. I said, you ain't got nothing here
any of the farm maanels. There ain't nothing in the
corn cribbing, nothing in the barn. And he kept saying,
is this thing gonna come back her? I said no,
I don't think so. I think he's just coming through
here and he's looking for a little snack. He was
just passing by. Is anybody spent the night in your
barn down there probably, and uh, he said, you sure,
and I said, well, I ain't sort about anything, but
I said you'd see if he had been here, a
concert coming through what there is? But no, there's no
nothing here. He said okay, and we got walking back
up to the house and this other gentleman came in
and pulled up and he said, so are you telling
about your monster? And he said, well, why'n't you tell
him what you got? And I said, oh, you found
he got something too, And he said, well I got
something and he said, matter of fact, he's he's been
up there for a couple of days now. I think
he's still there, and uh really, and uh, what was weird? Doug?
And Jeff was the old man. I asked him what
that critter looked like and he said it was big
and black and long and clumpty hair. And I said,
that's a big foot. And then when the other guy said,
he said, oh, you know it's bucker. He said, all
the cows are up here at the barn all how
and all right and radical and everything. He said, this
thing it sound like an little sien out there, and
I went, oh what wait? I said, well, he's got
a big foot and you got a howler. And I said, okay, well, uh, okay, well,
and this is right here at the end of January
going into February freezing ring. And I went out and
no kidding, Doug and Jeff, uh, I was in a
Gillie suit freezing ring. And I'm laying there. I got
the camera in my cross sticking out and uh, ten
feet in front of me, there's an eight foot drop
off ledger that goes way down the side of this mountain,
way down into that farmhouse. And I'm laying there in
about seven ten in the morning, I heard that old
hound long down her beller way down here him you
can hear him. And next thing you know, I heard,
I get to hear him coming. I heard it coming.
I'm going, oh, oh, what kind of luck am I getting? Now?
Speaker 11: Oh?
Speaker 1: This is Oh, my heart's are raising. I'm gonna here
he comes. I'm gonna get the best best footies ever.
Look at this. He's gonna walk right in front of
me because he has to, because he has to come
around that ledger and go down the hill that way.
And I was straight in my eyes and I almost got,
you know, like a headache trying to stare to the
right to see him come into view. And when I did,
I about got sick to my stomach cause I'm like, uh,
you're you're not the bigfoot. Uh you know, I'm thinking
it fine, I'm like, I'm looking at it, like what
are you? But I know what he is. He's he's
what they called back in the day where they said
that he had knocked this It wasn't a bigfoot. They
said it was a multi colored man beast that jumped
off his hill and knocked these people off the covered
wagon at this one time. And the and they was
taking rocks, throwing and beating it to get off these people,
and they said, no, one the bigfoot. Well, it stands
ten it's it's standing right in front of it, stopped
right in front of me, doug.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 1: And he's looking not looking at me. He's looking down
there with that old farmhouse is without houndog bellard. And
the weirdest thing I kept saying was what is that sound?
I'm looking at the side of his face. I'm like,
what does that sound? And and it was like a
hissing sound. And I just kept looking look at it,
looking at it. I'm trying to squim my eyeballs to
trying to get some eyeball featured. But his eye saw
it set back too far. I couldn't see his eyes,
and but I saw his lip move. He was sucking
the air. He was tasting the air. Doug he was,
And I was like, man, I hope he's not trying
to taste me, you know, because this thing is known
for attacking people. So I'm like, and I'm ten feet
from me, oh like, oh my lord, you know, neverybody's
scared of my life, you know. Oh, man, here comes
the milk carton. I was like, I got to drop
on him. What's he gonna do. He's just gonna stand
right there. You can just reach out and grab me, probably,
but he yeah, I know, he's ever bit four foot
above where the cameras aiming at him. So that puts
him like the twelve foot.
Speaker 5: That was.
Speaker 1: That was quite something. And I since you got the picture,
I think of the of that that's off a live
video and ten feet in front of me. He stood
there for three hours. He burnt the tape up, just
like a stone statue. When he heard that dog and
he came up and he stopped right in front of me,
and he just tasting the air.
Speaker 5: Jeffy, you're welcome to put anything up.
Speaker 1: I just my heart was just raising. I just don't
is that like I said, the tracks? No, now that
right there, Doug, right that right there. I don't know
what these are either. His face slopes down like a camele,
like in the front like weird. And he's got these
two little ears and a point a little head. But
the one behind him when they went by me, it
didn't even look at me. It stayed its focus on
the back of that one that was in front of it,
and it just said, like looking at me as it
went by, is like, you know, okay, if you're not
gonna do not anything, I'm not gonna do anything. And
I was in the wintertime right there. I was in
a little dugout with a little flip phone. There he comes.
They come right up that trail, but he's just staring.
He's looking at the front. One just would not take
his eye off of me. But the one behind it,
he didn't care if I was there or nothing. He
just kept walking.
Speaker 5: How big are those two black blobs? How bigger?
Speaker 1: Like about about eight and a half eight and a
half feet tall. Yeah, and then I got this one
here and there there's the howler. There's that thing right there.
You can see his nose, his mouth, his deep eye
sockets that you can see the circle pits of his
nose on the back of how big his head is.
His hair you don't see his shoulders. His hair just
went right over his shoulders, just like a like a
moth would hang over. It's like a but like I said,
the weirdest. Like I said, I've never seen anything like
him and his hair, fur hair, whatever you call it.
He had a dark clay face and by these ears
on the side. But he had the dark clay face
and the but his his hair or fur whatever, it
was magnificent. I've never seen anything like that on any
kind of a critter in my life. And I've been
on three continents on his blue marble, and I've never
seen anything like that, never seen you know, it looked
like fur hair. I don't, I don't know. But it
had all the collars of the fall leaves of the forest,
even the dead stuff, the dead sticks, everything. He blended perfectly.
When the clouds went over the sun, he went right
into it like a black and white movie. When the
sun comes parking out he started lighting up like a
light bulb of all these collars. It was just unbelievable.
I've never you know how many are out there? Someone
gave birth to that, So it's.
Speaker 5: I yeah, I mean still pictures are kind of worthless,
you know what I mean? You know, yeah, they don't
They doesn't have an info m So I don't know
if there's anything else that you want to have, Jeff
put up. I think there was a footprint cast. You've
done some research with dog Man too, haven't you.
Speaker 1: Well I didn't want to. It just landed on my lap.
And I don't know what this thing is. I poured
his track. Some people say maybe the dog Man. Some
people say it's the lizard Man. Some people I don't
know why.
Speaker 5: I don't know. It is pretty clear, it is very
clear track. I just it's weird.
Speaker 1: But what has claws at the end of the human
the end of the human foot?
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's.
Speaker 1: Bears. Have the pads there before the clothes, you know,
in the paths. But this and don't And like I said,
I don't know what what what track is?
Speaker 5: That?
Speaker 1: Uh said, it's unbelievable. That's a three toe looks like
it's broken or something. Uh well, I bought it. Uh,
I don't know. And that's what I was hoping that
on your show, that people would see this the yeah,
maybe maybe identify it.
Speaker 5: Uh yeah aave ebany if you guys have any ideas,
you can put it in the con don't put it
in chat, but put it in the comments, or put
it in both. Actually put it in the chat and
in the actual comments the show comments.
Speaker 1: And there if you look closely that house, that's human
foot with six claws and it's walking. It's by Peter
or you see other two tracks beside of it, and
that's walking.
Speaker 5: Well, the tracks in line and this one it looks
like I can see the second one.
Speaker 1: It looks in line one right in front of the
other one.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's also pretty weird. They're Richard, I know.
Speaker 1: It's like, well weird Ohio and Hawking County.
Speaker 5: Although you know, you know, it's just it's so hard
to know. Is that a double step air track? Possibly?
But I you know, I'm not that good identifying tracks.
You know. It's like, yeah, this is odd, Jeff.
Speaker 8: What I have no idea what that is.
Speaker 5: It looks like it's got some talents that I wouldn't want.
I wouldn't want to tangle with.
Speaker 1: Believe it or not. It has a uh like the
human foot part of it on the bottom, but we
couldn't get it because it's stepped on a rock and
they put the claws into the mouth. So as a
it's that's another one that's a cryptode's that we poured
that was down in the pit.
Speaker 5: Now those it's looked to me about what three inches.
Speaker 1: Yeah, about three four inches long? Yo, Yeah, I don't
And we looked up every type of critter type of
the only thing that comes up with like a like
Haynes said, like a veloci raptors front floor or something.
I never say anything like it. Uh, but these things here.
One was heading toward the pit area and the other
one was heading away from that pit area.
Speaker 5: So what kind of pit is it? Is it a
mining pit?
Speaker 4: Is it?
Speaker 1: It's a uh, it's a uh it goes back in history.
Uh really, I mean they wrote, you know, is there
water in the pit? Yeah? Fresh spring water comes r.
Speaker 5: And so you think it could be a source of
drinking water?
Speaker 1: Yeah, And they fished down there too. That's why I've
seen those two logs together with the whole circle and
uh yeah they've but now it's a lot. Uh but
now it's become thanks to the phone. And some people
got around and they start taking picture of the place,
and every says, hey, come and look at this special pace,
like say, hey, let's not okay. Uh, let's a that's
a special place because nobody it's not commercialized. You know,
you can still go there and get tracks of hopefully
a bigfoot. Uh and uh and uh these cryptid tracks.
But you know, just like places. Let you know, uh,
well you've heard like all the rest of them, it's
whole fork, a lot of them. They're heavily, heavily heavily commercialized.
You can tell how many big foot groups are in there.
And uh plus you got people on horseback, you got people.
There's mushroomors, birders, gin singers, you got them all. And
uh no, you got to try to I try to
find the air is still that are left pristine, where
people aren't agitating it to where I tell my team,
I said, if you want to get him, get you
want to capture the historical research evidence we're going to
have to capturing when we catch him in his element
where he makes noise, because that's where we do that.
That's why I do the gilly. And we go out
there into gilly during earliest in the morning and you
stay out there all day, all night. Try to say
there all day the next day and all night because
you want the birds, you want the critters and everything
all around you. And then when when they sense this
someone and then when I've noticed on the Bigfoot, when
they noticed anything, they go into a stealth mode and
you're not going to hear them. Regardless of he's four
hundred pounds to twelve hundred pounds, you're not going to
hear him. And that's why that's why I got a team,
because I don't need you for your ears. I need
you for your eyes because you're not going to hear
these things come upon you. Really, no, you know, That's
what I tell my gods.
Speaker 5: Have you had have you had any incidents where you've
been like in a structure, cabin or you know, some
barn and you've actually had these things come up to
the cabin and maybe banging the walls or anything.
Speaker 11: Uh, let me say something here, dog, if I got
to hear clothes funny you ask uh uh, yeah, that referring.
Speaker 1: To that dog man. Questions you have or yeah, if
you can see this twenty eighteen, yep, this is I'm
gonna show you on this account. Here, this is how
many times or this is when it the dog man
showed up at our cabin when I was doing writing
music for Atlantic Records. I've documented. This is January twenty eighteen.
You can see it. Just to start, this is how
many days he mess with me in January if you
can see it. And then there's how many days he
messed they mess with me in February, I've talk every
day that they whatever they've done.
Speaker 4: And then.
Speaker 1: March how many days they messed meat? Where they came
back on March. I want to see April, okay with April?
Well nothing so like I said, yeah, I've had I've
had this thing peel on our cabin all round it.
It's sly both of our trees, one up by our
steps going to the front door and one at the
end of our driveway. And and I got I caught him.
Out Of all these days that you see in three months,
I've only captured him three times on video. Under the
other two you o shaturs. You can see this thing
coming up. But the last one, uh is you can
see him. He's coming up to our front door of
our cabin. He's standing on the ground, but he casts
his shadow on the ground and you can see it.
When he turns sideways, you can see his tail go
up and down. You can see his hawk legs. And
then just when he starts to walk away, he peeks
his head around the corner up up there where our
front door's at, looks right at the camera, looks right
at it. And I never caught him since after after that,
and I haven't you know, he hadn't come back after that.
So well, like I said, I've I've did a lot
of that thing. Really, it's like they was working in
shifts keeping you up. Sometimes. You know, you would hear growling,
deep growling and picking up the windows and then boom,
you'd feel the house, You feel the cabin shake because
it just jumped up on the roof and now it
in four steps and like thirty five feet from where
he jumped up onto the roof, and now he's standing
over our front door, up onto the roof. But you
don't hear him jump off. So you can't go outside
to get firewood. You just hoping the electric came off
too in the wintertime out there.
Speaker 5: All right, back, Richard, you got to back up. Okay,
you're hearing something on the roof. Yes, you can't just
you can't just say that crap casually. You need to
get into some details so you hear this. Okay. First off,
if you're in a cabin and something leaps up on
the roof, that's going to freak out.
Speaker 1: Oh I did, because I, like I said, I was
writing music for Atlantic at the time at the time,
and I had my earphones on and I felt I'm
sitting there doing my thing and I was saying whoop.
I felt my body balance. I'm went, whoa, what the
hell was that? A tree break off and hit the roof.
I took my earphones off and I get out and
I walk out to the sun room onto our deck
and I'm looking around. I don't see anything. I'm like,
what in the fart?
Speaker 5: You know what? You know?
Speaker 1: I'm looking around, I'm like, what the hell is that?
I don't see any trees down to my house. And
I'm like, well, what maybe something jumped in, a coon
or something. I don't know. So I went back in.
I got back on my thing and doing this. And
then as I'm as I'm trying to write write a
couple of days, and all of a sudden, I hear
this like a sound. I'm like, wow, whoa, I gotta
know that one. I'm really freaking out now, Oh, like,
what the what is that noise? There's some big, big roar,
growl whatever. I heard it right through my earphones, and
I shut the system down. I turned all the lights off,
and I'm looking to I'm going to the curtain looking
out the window. I'm like, what is out there?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 1: And uh, my heart's just a raisin almost where you
get that, you know that the almost a sick feeling
and you're like, whoa, you know, because something big is
outside and it's not friendly.
Speaker 5: And uh it was night? Was this, said night? Richard? Yes,
like la la, I mean what time?
Speaker 1: Yes? It usually I slept mostly during sometime parts of
the day and wrote at night where it was just
peaceful quiet, And it's like usually anywhere from eleven o'clock
to five in the morning, uh, at the richest times,
or from one to one to four. That seemed like
with them and uh or whatever they were, they Yeah,
I just I was just freaking out.
Speaker 5: Okay, so you hear it walking on the roof. What
do you hear? How loud? What kind of roof you have?
What kind of roof do you have? Is it?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you could hear it.
Speaker 5: It's it's on a world like a boom boom boom.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're we're on a slight hill. And uh where
if you're standing behind you know, don't take don't take
a short ladder to get up on the roof. It
jumped you get here, just go boom and then you
hear a boom boom, boom boom, and it stopped and
it's right above where the roof fifth. The door is
right here and the roof. He's standing right here, just
before the peak. But you don't hear him jump off
and uh and then I but I didn't know what
it was at the time. At first. I'm like, something
big is out there and it's on the daggun roof
and I'm freaking out because there's no way I can
call out because there's no signal there. And if you
dig call for help, well, if you did get a
signal out, well it's going to be a long time
for somebody gets you, and uh so I'm just like
I said, I was just freaking out.
Speaker 5: And okay, how hard how high would you have to
jump to jump on your roof?
Speaker 1: Uh on the back side, Uh, just just your regular
standard eight foot jump from the ground.
Speaker 5: Jeff Marriot leap. I marrid foot leap. I do it
all the time.
Speaker 1: But out front it's like, uh fourteen foot fifteen foot
to get to the spouting, because like we're we're on
the hill, it's easier to get up on the back
side of the cabin that is going up to the front.
But uh, yes, slash it slashed. And I've got the
recordings of this thing roaring outside doing burst outside of
our cabin. Just you know, you hear that roar here,
you know, you're like, oh my god, oh you know,
you know, you know what is this? And then I
and I finally seen what it was that came out
when the uh there's the wintertime, the winds, the blonde
you know, kind of hard uh And I heard a
roar off to the right from our cabin, off our driveway.
I go to the living room, look out the window,
and off to the left that goes up a hill,
this thing come running out of the forest. Look, I mean,
just like lightning speeds like and stops right at the edge.
He's not looking toward me. It's looking up the hill
at something. And this thing was slender, not real big
and musk or anything, just talking like kind of tall
and lankety. But it had the dog head and it
was like dark I was trying to black. Was a
silverish type to it, and it didn't have a real
big long flubby tail. It had a flubby tail to it,
but it was looking up the road and then all
of a sudden, it shot off and I'm like, oh
my god, that's what's out there. Well, I was losing it.
I mean, I'm a bigfooter and I used to seeing
things like this.
Speaker 5: Oh no, Well what did you see, Richard?
Speaker 1: Well, like I said, I saw that, uh you know
that the dog man standing over there. They came up
the road or came up the hillside and stood right
there on the side of the road.
Speaker 5: What it looked like, I mean, can you describe it?
Speaker 1: Well, it was like, well, was not wasn't big muscular
like what people say. Oh, it was like a tall
and lankety uh uh. But it had the hawk legs.
You can see the hawk legs on it, and you
see the tail blowing uh in the wind, and uh
it was dark. You can see it's had the dark
arms on the dark head and uh didn't have a
real big long muscle one. It was just like a
like a regular dog's like maybe muzzle, but it had
the silver. He could see the silver on on his
belly and going down the interier on his right leg.
When it was standing there sideways looking looking up the road,
you can see it as a whitish silver and then
it's like dark boxies color. Yeah, it's just like I've
never seen it, you know. Like I said, it's just
freaked me totally out. Like I said, I didn't know
what I'm like, Oh my lord, you know, so that's
a good thing. I had, you know, a gun in
the cabin, but I haven't you know when these things
did that to our cabin. You know, I was thinking
at the time, I said, is this thing calling me out?
Or is he trying to say get out? I don't know,
but I never went outside to find out. Oh I know,
is I've captured him on film. I've captured the the
audio of this thing. And like I said, I'm not.
I don't you know, some gave birth to that, and
then I got another picture of it. Well, like I said,
you know, pictures, that was the word. But twenty you know,
thirty yards away from in the pit, there's I see
another one down there. But they Here's the thing. When
you see a coyote, it don't matter if you go
to the next state or in there's date. You see
a coyote, You see a coyote, you see a rabbit,
you see a rabbit. Well this, when you see it,
it's not the same thing you saw the first time.
This thing is totally different. And you think, Okay, something
gave birth to that, and some gave birth to that.
Some give birth, so there's they're not the same. So
somebody putting these things out there, you know, to watch
the public or what I don't know. Oh I know
is hey, I got the tracks of these things, and
you know, I got pictures and I got you know,
the video of this thing. But you know, I like,
you know, it's just I don't know, and I never
shared this stuff, you know, with the public.
Speaker 5: Jeff, do you have any more photos? People? Okay, so
all right, I just I'm gonna mention it only because
it hit me as maybe a good idea. Carl and
some other people were saying, if you ever fart in
the woods, stop and listen to see if a bigfoot
starts laughing. Yeah, and I thought that's kind of funny.
It would be almost funny if a guy brought a
fart call. Just see, it's a funny idea, but maybe
it would work. And just see if you get a
response like some kind of bigfoot laughter. Anyhow, we're really
going down in the gutter here. That's because I did
some news, Richard, and there was something in space they
called what gas bullets, gas bullets, the gas rockets, something
like that. Anyhow, so people in chatter doing fart, they're
telling forts stories. You're a guy volunteers, go ahead and
record some gas bullets. Gas bullets, okay, gas bullets anyhow.
But I think that bigfoot's do have a sense of humor,
because I've witnessed it. They do things to scare you,
to prank you. I mean, do you feel that too, Richard,
at times that they have a sense of humor.
Speaker 1: I've heard the I've heard the little kid laugh where
there's nobody out there. Uh, and uh, I've heard them,
uh make noise. I think they is bedding down or
something on the other side of the hill for me.
But they they would make these little sounds, uh like uh,
you know how like you'd throw your voice like you know,
you know you heard it from there, but it came
from over there, and you know there's nothing over there.
But then do you but you hear it from over here,
and then all of a sudden, it's it's weird, weird.
I can't explain it, but uh. They they would keep
making this noise until he got a little softer and
a little softer, and next saying, no, they're not making
a noise anymore. I don't know if they sleep, I
don't know, but that's what they were doing. Some weird
clicking sounds really weird. Like I said, not so.
Speaker 5: Nothing, keeper, But you tell these stories so matter of fact, Richard. Yeah,
sometimes I'm like whoa, whoa.
Speaker 1: Back up, Yeah, just what happens. The way it happens
is just like it's so it's just you know, it's
it just does something to you know, like you know,
when person gets you know, gold fever. I suppose you know,
like I said, you know what, you've lost good friends
in a marriage. You know, it's like nothing really much
stands in the way, you know, when you're when you're
like that, I suppose.
Speaker 5: How often do you have activity when you grow out? Oh?
On Ian? Do you ever? Do you ever have days
whether there's nothing or weeks where there's nothing, years years
whether there's nothing?
Speaker 1: Okay, yes, and I'm just waiting on you know, I
stayed prevalent to the forest that I grew up and uh,
and I noticed any of it will change, It'll come through,
you know that I see it. And then, like I
tell my guys, once you know that they're in the area,
you see that you're in the area, there's your chance
and probably only chance that you're going to be able
to get anything. Yeah, you know, is it well, once
it worth to you? You worth not going back to
work for the whole week and get fired or are
you going to stay the week out there and hopefully
you get a historical photograph of what they call folklore
and legends.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's what I.
Speaker 1: Been doing all my life, not trying to prove to anybody.
Could just you know, I got to get a better look,
better sign of him or a better you know, I
just want to see more of him, do you know,
like I want to if I wish I could have
him right here like an examine and look at him,
you know, just to look at his facial features up
close and all that, you know what I mean. But
you're not going to get that. And because I tell
like that team, I said, what's the smartest man in
the world? A man A person who can stay away
from hidden from man, that's the smartest man in the world.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, they're obviously, I'm sure you feel they're intelligent.
What do you think they are? Do you think they're
just flesh and blood really smart part human creatures or
do you think there's something else to him?
Speaker 1: Well, what I see is this flesh and blood. I
mean it looks there's like a bear. Looks like somebody
out there for is just like a bear does just
they you know, Like I told a couple of guys,
I said, if Bigfoot wants your attention, he'll get it.
That's the same occasions where I've had people with me
and you're just walking down the trails, just talking away
and log come flying over your head and criesh. You're
like WHOA. He's like, yeah, if you want your attention.
You'll get it, huh. But I tell my guys, please
don't do no whooping and don't do no tree knocking.
And they was like, well, well everybody, so I said,
that's the problem. I mean, anybody else can do what
they want, I said, but they got to understand, you know,
like that old saying, monkey see monkey do, Well there
comes a dumb human there is. I was sitting there going,
you know, communicating with my buddy across the hill, but
all of a sudden he's over there and boom boom boom,
knocking away and whoop. Well they don't people don't understand
that there's certain pitches and tones with those knocks and
those whoops, and when you start whooping automatically, well here's
the human he just enjoyed in there. Well we're gonna
have to get him out of here, you know.
Speaker 11: Uh.
Speaker 1: But that's what I tell my guys. Please don't whoop
in the tree knock. I said, don't be the monkey
see monkey doo. Because if you're in an area and
somebody's way on the interside of the mountain, you don't know,
and they're over there knocking and whooping, how do you
know it's a bigfoot knock, so I tell him please
do not knock and whoop. You know, it's like we
want And we noticed that we went the Salt Fork
at Tomas, like you heard them, people were tree knocking
all over the my like lord. So I just got
in the car to talk and said, come on, guds,
let's go. I said, this is ridiculous, I got you know,
but people, if that's what they want to do, that's fine.
They can do whatever they want. I don't care. But yeah,
my pictures of my research and my evidence that I've
gotten in the last fifty years, I think that helped.
By not doing all that. And because they don't really
like change, or they don't really like anything. They don't
like noises and lights and different smells that come in
you know what I mean, they get agitated about that.
Speaker 5: Have you ever experienced the the stink the future scene
type smell that they seem to put off on a
on occasion.
Speaker 1: I have never smelled as funny as it seems. I mean,
I have never letten a uh the odor that they
talk about. Uh maybe I.
Speaker 5: Think it's I think it's something they do. Yeah, I
don't think that they I think they're clean. I don't
think they smell like that all the time. I think
that they can do it, though, because I have on
three occasions now actually four if I count going up
to Randy's. Uh, we've tried to even trigger the stink
to get them to do it, and we've we've had
some strange experiences with the smell. But it's horrible. Richard
smells like rotten flesh or a dead body. But it's
not in the forest. It leaves them. You know, you
get hit with it and you'll be gagging and then
it's gone.
Speaker 1: Mhmm.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm surprised. But maybe you don't piss them off.
Maybe they're not agitated when you when they come across you.
Speaker 1: You know, Like I said, I think I try to
tell people, uh, if you really, I mean, even though
I got a team that I like to have eyes
around me, you're I tell people, you're going to get
the best action if you want action or whatever you
want to try to capture, the best you can be.
Not there alone is being alone. I mean having a
person who is okay, But it seems like that they
prefer you to be alone when they want to interact
or let them be seen or whatever. Seems like they
want you to be alone. That is what I've noticed.
They come out when you're alone, not when you've got
a dog with you or another person or you know.
That's what I've noticed. But I go, I haven't had
any aggressions.
Speaker 5: Uh you had? Have you witness rocks beam thrown?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 11: Uh?
Speaker 1: When he was pouring a track, and that's a fellow
Eric Tipton. He came running up and he was going
to get back back to the man. I just gotta
grow up, And all of a sudden, a couple of
rocks come flying and said, okay, well let's get the track.
Let's go. Let's not hang around the area too much longer.
Speaker 8: Let's go.
Speaker 1: They don't want us here.
Speaker 5: So, Jeff, do you I want to ask him about
the home. Elizabeth mentioned it and I was gonna I
was thinking about it. Anyhow have you ever heard this sound?
We're going to play a sound for you in a relationship,
and you're all big footing. You may not have paid
any attention to it. Do you have an andy, Jeff,
like the Texas one? I think it's this one from Carl, Yeah,
from Carl Carl. So Eric says, my idea of fart
calling is a good one. Oh my god, it's just silly.
But you know, all right, listen to this Richard. M hm,
you're all played again.
Speaker 4: M hm.
Speaker 5: We'll play the snow Grove one, which is more more subdued.
Speaker 8: Sure, give me a minute here, I'll pull that up
to find it.
Speaker 5: So we've been you know, we've been talking about this. Well,
we've been. We've collected like eighty five recordings out from
people that do audio recording and with their bigfoot research.
Speaker 8: Okay, all right, I got it right here. Gave me
a second. This is a this is a loop.
Speaker 5: It's not playing.
Speaker 8: Oh, I mean the you know what I got, I
was in the wrong one. Hold on a second, try this.
Speaker 5: There we go.
Speaker 1: I got something close to that, but it's in a
long twenty seven second growl. Yeah, we'll last for twenty
about twenty seven seconds long. But that other thing was
talking about, Uh, I've heard the bigfoot do a like
a actually like a like a let his breath out,
you know what I mean, Like a exhale, but wrong,
like a like a ground burst that come down low
that hits you. That's about the only one that I've had.
Speaker 5: Well, if you have anything even near it or you
think would be interesting to get it to me. You
can just send it a messenger as an MP MP three.
You know, I'll give it to David Ellis, who I
think is in our audience. Unless you have it handy
and you could play it. I doubt you do. But
you probably don't have it handy, Richard.
Speaker 1: Oh well, if I do, it's probably not gonna do.
Speaker 5: That's okay, it's okay. I don't want to screw it up.
Speaker 1: That would probably be a wouldn't do any justice.
Speaker 5: Looks like off a tablet it Yeah, yeah, no, no,
if you could, if you could get it to be
a messenger or email, if it's not too big, that
would be very interesting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got there's another thing too that I don't
know if i'd send it to you or not. But
some people call it a genoskua or some people call
it whatever. I don't know what to call it. Uh,
it's another one who's caught on live film. But I
zoomed across the way and got it. It's you can
see the picture. There's a a white angle coming down
in the like the center of the picture, and then
you see a light up here. Well, this light, this
white line right here, that's the the guy's roof over
to his front door right here, and its head is
about this high over top of this roofline is this
high almost on the security light. I'll have to send
you that one.
Speaker 5: Interesting somebody, I think, Yeah, Josh was asking to wonder
what would make a big wood smell so bad? Okay,
So even gorillas produce a stink that they can produce
and kind of spray it out of their apricrin glands
under their armpits, and it's been described as burnt rubber
and rotten rotten meat and blah blah blah, and even
George Schaller has just you know, described the stink that
gorilla has put off, and so it seems to happen
when they're irritated. Now, we don't know where a big
foot would produce it. I call it future scene because
it smells like that future scene is a chemical made
by bacteria as it's eating flesh, like rotten spoiled flesh,
and so I call a subsquatch future scene. But we
don't know. They may make it in their armpits, it
may exude out of their pores. It you know, it's
apparently very hard to get off, and we actually collected
some of it at A long story, I don't want
to get into all the details, but we actually collected
it and it got lost on the sample like it's
just like really it was frozen and it's stunk to
I mean, it was horrible gagging. And we collected it
on plastic. Plastic observes odors really well, and any long
story short, it disappeared. I wanted to have it. I
wanted to have it analyzed because every smell is chemicals
in it, you know, and if you could put it
in a gas chromatograph and you could determine what are
the those chemicals could be quite interesting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've heard Doug that, uh, the how they get
to activate that odor for whatever this what I've heard
that the they uh they eat ah a lot of
uh clams, crayfish and stuff like that, uh to build
hm that up in their immune system to to secrete
that oil that steak. And I was going, really and
I said, yeah, now they tell me also that the
I go, they said, and also they two for mating,
they eat a lot of the fruits and uh, the
fruits and stuff. Uh that secrete this other enzyme for mating. Uh,
I know it's well.
Speaker 5: Somebody said they can project sasas Saga said, they can
produce good smells, which is really interesting. And yeah, that's
some interesting information that I'm gonna hang on to. Somebody's
asking about seabum collecting off flat rocks port railing. I
don't know. I don't know anything about Stacy doing that,
but I've been a proponent for collecting seabum. Have you
ever seen the handprint on a vehicle, any of your cars, windows,
at your cabin anywhere a handprint not on.
Speaker 1: Our cabin, but the the the two ladies that live
or not live, but they have a cabin that's up
higher up on the mountain up there, and they came
and told me that there was something around their place
at night. And you can see on the back of
their roofover built that was on the back. You can
see that there was the finger parts. You could see
the finger and the thumb. It was big. You can
see where he leaned put his hand there. But he
was looking over the top of their camper while they
were sitting there on their picnic table. He was watching
them behind their camp, behind their camper on the roof
over there.
Speaker 5: Interesting, And what color were those prints? You know, do
you remember what color were a kind of a whiteish
was it on a black surface or a darker Uh?
Speaker 1: Well, it was like a burgundy collared metal roof. You
can see where his fingers laid right on the top.
Is like his palm laid right there on the edge,
but his fingers was right there on top of the metal.
You can see it. We were standing on the hill
looking down, like I said, looking down, you can see it.
It's like, well, he put his hand right there. You
can see his hands, his fingers and like fingers like
that long, you know, like got wide in between each one,
just like you can say it. I was like, wow.
But they but the ladies up there, they said that
they would come around their camper every once in a while.
And I told him, I said, well, I think he's
just watching out for you ladies. They're protecting you. I
don't know, you know, they seem to. And then in
the morning after that, de went off of their plastic
on the side of the porch. You can see where
a big hand wipe the plastic on their porch. They
went around filling the plastic.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think they're very tactile. I think they like
to touch smooth anything, smooth glass painted services, car bodies, windows.
And that's an idea for anybody too, is to get
some clear plexi glass ass or black or even a
you know, a color like blue, and put a square
of it out in your if you've got an area
where you're doing gifts or whatever, lay it there or
they might touch it and handle it and leave you
some nice semment, some handprints.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I tell people, if you want to leave a gift,
always tell them make something out of the forest, you know,
go get the go, get a little vine. Yeah, braid
it real quick, throw a couple little flower stems in,
or throw something a little bit it ben and loop
it in and just hang it there. Uh. They get
a kick all a lot. They always take it, and
they like the little shiny things. We had a little
wind chime. There's only about that tall, little novelty gift
and uh uh they took it off our tree and
then what was weird? Uh In the wintertime, you know,
there's nobody out there, but you'll hear that the wind time.
You'll hear over here to the right, over the hill
and then you'll hear it again off to the left,
way over there. He's like, you know, hey, I got
your little toy here, you know, listen to it. You know,
I got it, you know, you little kid? Laugh?
Speaker 5: Are you kind of cut out there in the last sentence, Richard,
can you repeat that?
Speaker 8: Yeah, we're kind of losing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're kind of losing.
Speaker 10: There we go, it's been it's been really good, Richard,
it's been good.
Speaker 5: We still we still want yeah, yeah, you're still we
hear you if you want. If if it's going your voice,
if it's going bad, just.
Speaker 1: Yea and I O get and you can hear it sometimes, you.
Speaker 5: Know, Uh, I very ready to that was that was bad?
We get the wheel of death?
Speaker 8: Yep.
Speaker 5: Yeah. I mean there's so many concepts of like why
they stink, and I've heard so many stories. One of
them that really sticks with me is when a guy
claims he was running around the backside of his house
in the dark and his kids were in the in
the back, and he went around the house to scare
his kids, ended up running face to face with a bigfoot,
ran into it and bounced off it, and he said
the smell on his body and his clothing. His clothes
had to be thrown away. He immediately got in the shower.
He could not get the stink off. It lasted like
a day or two after even after he showered really well,
and his clothes had to be burned. They were so bad.
And it's quite a story. And I heard it on
subsquatch chronicles and it's a story of a guy in
Florida and he ended up running into it and it's
just stunk. It stunk his body so bad. But he
smashed into the creature. So I don't know, you know,
I don't know what could make it. But other animals
produce stink without having theat Skunks, bears can produce. You know,
they all have glands, so glandular glands can make some
horrific smells. Nothing to do with their diet. There's nothing
has to do with their body chemistry. And what I
call is superpower, a supernatural power. Skunks have it. Fox
can stick of an area, so there's nothing to do
with their diet. Has to do with glands. And we
us humans, we have glands under our armpits that smell
when we get really mad like or a or afraid,
or we're about to fight, get in a fight, will
start smelling, and I think it's a survival thing. It's
it's a repellent, you know. I mean read you can
read up on why do humans stink? At times? So
there you go. That's all I know about it. Anyhow, Hi, Richard,
you're back. No, it's fine. You've been great. Richard, You've
been great all night. It's been awesome.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. But I know, like I said, I
tell people that you know, regardless what what they hear
or if you don't believe it, I've set them on
a lot of my other times that I've talked out
that I tell the public if you want, if you
don't believe me, I said, you want to see, I'll
put you in these places where the dog man was standing,
where the Bigfoot was and all that, I will put
you right there. I don't I'm not like one of
the ones that says, oh, you can't go to my
research area over here. No, I will put you. I'm
not saying that he's going to be there. He's not
going to be there, but I'll put you right there
where the highest activity that that I've witnessed in the
Bigfoot and cryptid and uh, I have nothing to hide. Uh.
Like I said, I'm a researcher and this I'm not.
I'm not into it for the money. Never have. I
wish I had the money back that I spent in
this field of this hobby, thousands of dollars and cameras
and batteries and why you know, but I found out
the trail cam thing is just not working for me.
Uh see, the trail cams just lit up like a
candle if you look to it through a night vision.
That's the batteries has got that thing hot. And Dick's
hat band you can see it just lit up. And
I'm like, no, I just I'd like to capture everything
if I can on high eight or old school. Oh
that don't have the beam, don't carry out the don't
carry the heat. But that's what I try to do.
And then I tried.
Speaker 5: So flat Rockland made a joke this episode stinks. Very
appropriate comment, thank yous we're talking about since we're talking
about stink. Yes, he's he's he's witty. He's witty anyhow,
uh So, what what do you want to talk about
and what questions to be people have? What do you
want to tell what do you want to convey to people?
You got a whole audience here.
Speaker 1: Oh, I just don't. I just wish people would, uh,
the skeptics, uh got to see uh what they call
folk lore and legends out there. You know, I don't
understand when I got my booth at a big foot festival.
You know, when you got people going by and the
going ah, I don't believe in that's all joke. Well
why are you even here, buddy? You know this is
not a you know, a NAPA show. This is a
Bigfoot show here. You know you want tools to snap on,
getting your gun, google the bill and going up the road.
I just this is I'm not here to prove anything.
I'm here to just bring my research out and show
the public. Don't be scrutinized because this is what's in
your back door, whether you believe it or you don't. That.
I'm not trying to make people believe. It's just I
just wish that the person out there, that the skeptics,
that I want them to see this thing. I will
wish they'd see it. You know, then uh, you'll know
what we're what all the fuss is about. When uh,
when you do see one, because I've had people break
right in on a conversation right at a conference and
took the microphone and uh looked at the public and said,
I am awfully sorry. I laughed at you people for years,
and he said I he said, I've been a farmer
for fifty some years. He said, until the day I
saw one on my tracker go across my field. And
I want no buddy in a gilly suit, he said.
He said, so, he said, I apologize to everybody here
that I made fun of you people for years. He said,
I'm sorry, and thank you very much. He gave the
microphone back and got in the left. He said, what
is it going to take? You know, you know, you
know they got a body to go Scott one. Just
go ask them. You know they do they gott what
you think they do. Yeah, they got everything else. I'm
probably they didn't get old killed Nessie and put her
in a little pit stuffed it so well, like I said,
you know, they they say there ain't no rules or
laws out there, you know, blah blah blah, oh the
big but oh yeah, Well when people say, yeah it
takes a body to bring one, Okay, who's going to
bring the body in because it's states in the laws
that if you shoot anything by peedele you're going to prison.
I guess that includes the bigfoot. So if you shoot
a big pitt, you're gonna go to prison because it's
by pedele hominin. So why did you say that there's
not no laws against you know this? And why is
the forestry spending money on bigfoot signs? You see it
in le Bronce, you see it in Colorado, you see
it everywhere else. Bigfoot crossing. Well the states for that, well,
somebody believe in it anything. Hmmm, yeah, it's ridiculous, so
we can.
Speaker 5: So what is what is the probably the weirdest story
you've either ever heard or experienced concerning Bigfoot? What is
there something that jumps out, either a story you heard
from somebody you know or another another witness or yours.
Speaker 1: I really don't really don't get out that much, Doug,
or talk to a bunch of people, Like I said,
I'm a dinosaur and uh, but here later, I haven't
been able to get out in the field because my health.
I had a double hernie operation and then I had
some kind of a cryptid thing or whatever it was. Uh,
chase me up a tree. Ah. Then the branch broke.
I come tumbling out of that tree and I knocked
out three knock, knocked three teeth out. I cracked my
skull from here up to my nasal cavity.
Speaker 5: What happened?
Speaker 1: I got out of the truck because I wanted to
check this area out. I thought, okay, Well, I got
the headlights on, you know, aiming up the throat piece here,
and I thought, okay, was this There was activity here before,
so I think I'll just stop aaron check it out.
And I stopped and I got out. I got I
got away from the truck. I guess a little too
far and uh. And when I heard this thing roar,
the growl thing whatever, I'm like, oh crap, I'm not
gonna make it to the truck. I mean, to the
trucks right about forty yards away. I'm not gonna make it.
So I scampered up this tree. And soon as I
got about where I thought I was comfortable, this thing
was already at the base of the tree, growling. And
the thing was it. It wasn't a big cat, and
it wasn't a black beard. He come up the tree
after me. Well, whatever it was, it couldn't climb. It
didn't climb up the tree, but it was going around
the base, and then it went one direction and then
to come back, and he'd go around the tree again
or two two three, tin and then to go off
in another direction and come back. And then I waited
up there for probably oh no, forty minutes or so
another forty minutes, just so one come around. And then
you'd hear someone on the hillside. You're like, oh, I
gotta wait more like that gum, what is that thing?
And uh, because you know once you get out of
that tree, he's gonna have out it on you. Uh
it ain't gonna be good, So I said, I waited
there on a couple of hours, two three hours, and
I finally come out of that tree, and soon a
branch gave out down I went, and uh it messed
me up a little bit, and uh, no more tree
climbing for me. And that's now, that's why I pack
around my forty five this time. I'm not going to
get up in the tree. If I have to use it,
I guess they're gonna have to use it. I don't
really want to shoot anything out there. That's The only
reason why I carry a forty five because some of
these idiots out there, these homeless people think they own
the forest, the crazy people out there. When you're out
there deep, so like I said, it's just you know,
you got to stay frosty when you're out there. You
don't know who you'renna run into. I'm not really worried
about the Bigfoot doing anything because then they're bothered me.
Just them cryptid things is what I've got a concern about,
because where I'm going to look for Bigfoot, these things
just seems like they're running well them or running near them.
That's what I've noticed in fifty years. I just want
my just to want the Bigfoot back, you know, trying
to get him, trying to get as much information I
can on him. Because I told somebody at one time
back in the day that there's there's a difference. There's
the Southeastern on high a bigfoot, and then there's a
Southeastern High grassman. And he said, well, what's the difference.
I said, Well, the Southeastern High bigfoot he has that
long company hair, And I said, the grass man he
has that tight hair, a little bit longer than a
horse hair. But it's tight short, and you can see
the big muscle mass, big neck muscles and shoulder muscle,
bulls and oh, off of him and his face he's
got he's got like our nose. He's like he's got
our top lip and kind of like our nose and
our eyes. But his bottom lip is like kind of rounded,
like a kind of like a monkey.
Speaker 5: But now.
Speaker 1: It's hard to explain. But I told the person, I
said yeah, and they said, oh, Richard, and I said,
I'm telling you. And it took me about almost forty years,
about forty two years almost to prove that again because
I told him I saw one. And then forty some
years later I finally got a picture of the grass man.
Uh stand up on the cliff up there at the pit. Uh.
One shot he come walking right up and he stopped
facing me. You can see his face features and eyes, wear,
his nose and mouth, and you can see his giant
neck muscles, shoulder muscles, arm muscle. You can see its
length day of.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 1: Like I said, one of a kind in the world.
I'll never get another one. Probably. Uh.
Speaker 5: Do you want to do you want you want to
see these things proven? Or no?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, I mean I think, I think, I mean
big plus just the purson near a household name uh
Verry right. You know, I don't know why the sciences
don't get off of it. I mean, your big fuss
out there, and so was his buddies. And like I
said that, I just tell people they don't believe. Stay
out there in the force long enough, you can get
away from that phone, in that computer. You stay out
there long enough, you might see something. But me, I
don't have one of them I call dumb phones or smartphones,
I don't have them. I'm old technology. I just got
an old Donalds or flipphone anything. If they take that away, well,
if you want to contact me, send the carrier pigeon.
I'm not one of them conformed fellas. I'm not. I
was born without that technology. I'm gonna die without it.
Speaker 5: So that's just fine. Jeff, Do you want to throw
up our email address? Your email address? So Joshua's got
he thinks he may have hit a bigfoot with his truck,
if you'd like to, If you'd like, or anybody else
would like to come on this show, We're gonna throw
up the email address and chat. And mine is just
dug it Untold radioam dot com and Jeff's is Jeff
p at Untold radioam dot com. Pretty easy. But yeah,
if you'd like to come on and tell your story,
either all night or just even for a few minutes,
we love it. We love it. You don't have to
be like Richard and beyond for an hour and a half.
You can just come on and uh so, no, I'd
love to hear it. So anyhow, we're gonna wrap it up.
But I really appreciate coming on. Richard. It's great to
meet you. And and I understand that you were a drummer, right,
It's in your bio It says percussionist that a drummer
is that one.
Speaker 1: Uh well, drummer is just like you know, basically just
as drums.
Speaker 5: But a percussionist like like timpani. What what's a percussionist?
Speaker 1: Uh knows all like all percussion instruments. And uh And
because I read music, write music, sight read and compose,
I don't. And I was writing solos, percussion solos for
Atlantic to use the commercials. They said. I came up
with the new music general because I was I made
up sound effects and morphed them in the way I
wanted them, and I lined them all up and I said, okay,
I want this one here, this one here, and here,
and I composed all sound effects in the music. So
I didn't get a chance to finish it because due
to the laws now that you're not allowed to live
supposedly in the campground, they don't want people. You know,
we're not even living, we're not even standing actually just
going there for the week anywhere. But they won't allow that.
Now you going out in there from eight in the
morning till four in the afternoon. And that's the way
I said. If you pay your land tax there and
you own the property, why aren't you allowed to be
there at anytime you want to be there. But it's
just another one of the big land moguls are trying
to push in there to get this campground. And there's
places out there that we have that they want to
put in that new Well, like I said, down here
in Hawking County, it's going to be another little Gatlinburg.
That is what they're going to turn Hawking County into.
Speaker 5: And well, you know, fellas, you know, do you still
ride bikes motorcycles?
Speaker 1: Yes, I haven't gone on I haven't been able to ride.
In a few years, I'm finally going to this weather
here's breaking. I'm finally gonna get a chance to get
on and ride. You got a two thousand and five
Electric Glide Classic full dresser quiet. I don't like allowing
because out here on these secondary roads, if you want
to get in a bike, erect just right on these
old back roads here and the dog will wreck you.
You'll come round try to catch your tires. But uh yeah,
I really appreciate you guys, have me on the show
and let me thank you. So the the public, your public,
these tracks and maybe somebody that's seen one or or
knows what that is or that's what that's what I
want to know, and anybody wants to come out to
the pit. I'm going to have another run here next month.
I'm gonna probably do it by maybe near to the
middle of the month. It was not only too hot.
Anybody wants to come or it'll be on our We'll
post it on our Facebook on a Hio cryptid researcher
dot com on Facebook. It's a private thing. I don't like.
I said, I'm not one of them hit that like
and subscribe fellows. I'm I'm not you know, hit that
Golden Mother. I'm just me. I'm just a regular researcher.
Like I said, I just got a lot of research
evidence and I just needed since people wanted to see it,
it's time to put it all out there. Yeah so,
and I appreciate you fellows for letting me do that.
Speaker 5: Yeah. No, we appreciate having you on. Let's go ahead
and do it. Just stay put, Richard. We're going to
do our Wisdom of the Week and we will be
right back.
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Speaker 5: And we are back. Thank you. Everybody in chat lots
of activity. We really appreciate it. And Joshua get ahold
of Jeff and I would love to have you on
to tell your story about the strange animal you hit. Richard.
You you take care and you see if you can
get back on that damn bike.
Speaker 1: Tell you and get on that bike.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I like to show that other people to want.
Speaker 11: Uh.
Speaker 1: I was bit by something up out of our water
tower up there. Yeah, it's it. It was not wide.
I got pictures of it. My wife sent it to you.
It'll had all fang points and what has a four
inch wide?
Speaker 5: What did okay, when did that happen?
Speaker 1: That about uh four years ago? What has a four
inch wide? Bipe? Mark?
Speaker 5: But were you awake when this happened? Were you a sleeping?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I was in my truck and I dropped the flashlight.
I just got off the phone. My wife and I
reached down to to get it and it was like
like a like bam. It hit me, threw me under
the truck and if I didn't have a hold of
steering whel over it to pulled me under the truck
and uh whatever bit me? Uh it had all fang
points and uh it took thirteen weeks to heal and
it never scabbed. It just healed to a scar. And
whatever I put on it would not I put triple
antibiotic on it. It just run out around it. It
would not stay on the wounds. Uh, well, I don't
know what that was. I never had never seen anything.
I had a four inch wide bipe mark.
Speaker 5: Very strange. It sounds like it sounds like we'll have
to cover that in another night. Yeah yeah, So anyhow, well,
thanks everybody. We really appreciate it and hopefully cools off
for everybody, including here. We need somewhere to leave, so
we love y'all. Thank you so much, God bless We
will see you all next week.
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