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Speaker 1: Shhh.

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Speaker 2: Tonight's guest is Richard mckimm.

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Speaker 3: Looking back on life that you leave him then rested

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home in the crowd, stick around through the create the feeling.

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Speaker 4: Who the fire you'll be dancing around? Oh hearing sound

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of treating.

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Speaker 5: And no one cares where he's coming from.

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Speaker 6: My ears is no riding feeding and I guess we

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are new from the start.

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Speaker 4: He's on the days.

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Speaker 1: No, you know, one of these days will be no world.

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Speaker 4: Plancess? Who wanted sat to these? At my costo?

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Speaker 1: My costa.

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Speaker 3: Leading the fuse of the ashes, the spirits lad up

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there looking down the house.

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Speaker 2: We're life from the Untold Radio Network. It's Untold Radio

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AM with Monster Quest producer host Doug Hicheck and co

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host Jeff Pirella Junior.

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Speaker 7: Untold Radio A M is going live right now.

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Speaker 2: This show is for entertainment purposes only. Yep, that's the ticket.

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Now Here are your Untold Radio AM posts. Doug high

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Check and Jeff Corella Jr.

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Speaker 5: Hello, Hello, Hey, welcome, Thanks everybody for waiting. Jeff was panicking.

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Speaker 8: I wasn't panicking. I was concerned. My camera concerned.

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Speaker 5: I got it.

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Speaker 8: I think I got it working.

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Speaker 5: Here know what's happens right before it's for show.

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Speaker 8: And I, yeah, the camera, my camera just died on me.

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I think I got it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you look good.

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Speaker 8: I disappear it's my camera.

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Speaker 5: You look good.

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Speaker 8: You look thanks.

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Speaker 5: So anyway, I hope everybody is doing well. Welcome to

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Untold Radio Am, Episode three oh eight from the Untold

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Radio studios in Minneapolis, Minneapolis Ish, Minneapolis Ish north of Minneapolish.

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And to those who care, we want to give a

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special hello to all of the Antolians in chat. I

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hope everybody's staying cool and not melting. It was a

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I was a hot one hundred and three.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I kind of.

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Speaker 5: I'm driving a black truck with a black interior, and

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mann does it get warm inside? That's bad? Oh and

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then I my granddaughter opened the what do you call

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it the shade on the sun roof, and so that

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was cooking. I couldn't even sit on the seat. All right,

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So what do we got going on tonight? We have

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on deck We have a retired Army vet, fifty year

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veteran of Bigfoot in paranormal research record, Richard mcandle ish yep,

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and he is from Ohio obviously, Ohio is a hotspot.

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I don't know why it is, but it is. It's

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like so Midwest there, it's so it's like Minnesota. When

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every time I go there, it's like I feel like

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I'm home. So I don't know, but anyhow, so I'll

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have him on here soon. And it's like one hundred

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and seventeen degrees fair night in Vegas right now. Could

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you imagine? I lived down in Vegas for one summer,

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and I remember trying to touch a door handle and

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just like you can open it, you needed like a

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hot pad to open the door handle. That's what we

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need to make. Hot pad for cars. Yvet's mom. By

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the way, Vet's mom has a hot pat on her

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house store handle because it faces the sun and it

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gets so hot people burn their hand on the door handle. Anyhow,

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So I don't know, I don't really have anything to

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talk about special. Well, yeah I do. I me and

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Joey saw something really weird. We were driving back.

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Speaker 1: You know what.

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Speaker 5: We saw the not deer about there. We're driving and

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now we see what we can only both call not

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birds a flock of Yeah, okay, how can I describe

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this without a picture? If you picture birds with their

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wings outspread right and the profile of them, but they're

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not flapping, and there's a whole flock of them. And

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then they're darting every direction. And these birds are about

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the foot wide, you know, wing tip to wing tip.

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They're not little birds. And they have like a silver

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band on the upper part of what would be like

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a fake wing. And there were fifty to one hundred

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we didn't count them. But they darted out in front

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of our windshield and then kind of moved up towards

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a tree. But they were flying like crazy, like bats,

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but not one moved their wings. They just went side

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to side, up and down. Know what the hell was that? Jeff? Sure, Well,

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there was no propellers. A drone fly without propellers.

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Speaker 8: You can see them. Who knows that's weird? I don't know.

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Speaker 5: Well, yeah, maybe you couldn't see them. What would be

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a fly? I mean that would be even weirder to me.

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I would think that was even weirder than what we saw.

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It's not birds, It was just weird. So that's just

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like Joe's like every time we go somewhere, I'm like yep, well,

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I said, I was telling them about last time he

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and Jeff went through there, we saw not dear, so

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there was weird. Yeah, so we'll start our night off

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with that weird thing. So you're gonna want to lock

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your doors, pull those shades down, get cool, get a

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cool beverage like me mm hmm, clean.

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Speaker 8: Die city water.

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Speaker 5: Yeah right, never mind, there is there ice in there.

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Speaker 8: Nope, just just just cold city water. Really okay, keeping

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Speaker 5: Anyhow, So what was I gonna say? I don't know,

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so anyhow, Yeah, lock your door, get your comfy chair,

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get something cold to drink. And first we do want

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to mention something coming soon thanks to Jeff and a

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very generous listener that's giving us kickoff money to get

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this done. It is a challenge coin numbered Yeah, really cool,

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and we'll use them as giveaways. We will put them

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up in our merch store. And by the way, uh

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you can do you want to put up the the

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Unverified Crap T shirt? Yeah, and we'll put up a

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link for you too. I know a lot of people

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have been writing me say I don't want to get

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one of those. They are really cool. There you go

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and we'll put a link there. There's a link right

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there in chat and we'll put it in the show

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description too. Yep, so you'll have to hit the more

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button and then you can go and they're there. So yeah,

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you'll instantly turn into a good looking person if you

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wear the unverified crap T shirt.

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Speaker 8: I need to make sure I get one of tho.

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Those are cool. I love challenge going. Yeah, nuclear craft.

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Speaker 5: I think I think we could spare one for you, Jeff.

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We'll give you number two hundred.

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Speaker 8: I got to get one of those.

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Speaker 5: All right, Well let's get into a weird and oh,

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by the way, yes, there is also other merch. A

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lot of people don't know. There's merging convert every show

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and you can. You can get anything from coffee cups

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to hats to whatever, and we do need the support

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alost tell people it's too I haven't taken one. I've

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been doing that show three years. I've never taken one.

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Not one penny.

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Speaker 8: O kinds of neat stuff there.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, there's all sorts of stuff. You need a

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pair of leggings stuff un the old radio leggings. I

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could just see it. Enough of that, okay, I've teased

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you like five times. I gotta quit. Ah. Yeah, let's

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do the news. It's time for weird and fast knees,

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all right. Orcas are on the radar. Apparently orcas are

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now exploding giant fish, possibly for just for fun. You

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would think they would eat them after they would explode them.

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Scientists documented orcas holding dead sunfish in position while another

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whale charged into them, and I speed smashing the huge

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fish into hundreds of pieces. The behavior might create bite

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sized food for younger whales, or or it's just simply

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an extremely messy orca game.

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Speaker 8: But I think they eat those for some reason. I

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think those ocean sunfish are not.

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Speaker 5: Not very edible. I think there aren't. They called moa

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MOA's something like that, and they just kind of float

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and drift and they're just huge and massive. And but

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orcs are weird. I mean, they're really intelligent, but they've

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been attacking boats for fun.

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Speaker 8: I think one of the things that they're because they're slowest. Heck,

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I think their defense mechanisms. They don't taste very good.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think. I bet you orcers wouldn't taste

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very good either, Probably not do Ah Next, moving on,

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speaking of fish, uh, scientists discover a contagious contagious keyword

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contagious cancer and catfish. So mysterious black gross appearing on

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bull heads and catfish and New England and Canada turned

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out to be melanoma cells that move between fish like parasites.

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That's kind of weird. Weird, it's a uh. It is

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the first time transmissible cancer has been discovered in fresh

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water animals. I don't know of any cancer that's that

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can be transmitted by humans. Do you're gonna hit the

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I'm gonna hit the ripper burp button? Hold on, I

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didn't really have to. Kind of felt like it. You know,

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you know you need a drink ripter. You get the burps,

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the dumbest thing you can drink on the air. It says, Uh,

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it's about the contagious cancer. Yeah, it says. Researchers say

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it poses no threat or danger to people. Okay, I

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don't think I want to eat.

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Speaker 8: Thank you, no, thank you.

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Speaker 5: And next we have a very strange little article. Crop

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eating caterpillars may help this story. Styrofoam, a caterpillar notorious

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for attacking corn, cotton, and soybean graps. Carries the fungi

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in bacteria capable of feeding on polystyrene foam. Scientists isolated

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four fungy from the insects and testines that damage styrofoam

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in a laboratory tests, although they still need to determine

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whether the plastic is completely broken down or merely turned

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into microplastics. What could go wrong here? Could you imagine

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if they do the genetic thing and then these things

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get loose and they breed and everything plastic starts getting

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eat and you'll grab your grab something that's made of

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plastic and it's got you more arcs on it. No

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thanks or holes in your record albums? No thanks, that

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would hurt. Oh that would suck records. Did you know

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that they there was a guy that came out of

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the jungle, the Amazonian jungle, and he had brought a

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bunch of CDs, you know those or DVDs, and and

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some CDs you know that like silver plating they put

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on them. There was some fungus in the jungle that

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started eating the aluminum. And they determine this bacteria that

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was apparently hidden in the jungle can eat aluminum, which

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is normally toxic to every animal, and it has now

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gotten loose, just saying that's good. It's gotten loose. So

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there you go. What could go wrong? There? What could

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go wrong? All right? Next, the mysterious mysterious gats gas

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bullllets are racing through space? Do you ever have mysterious

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gas bullets racing through your house?

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Speaker 8: No comment? Are you gonna be? Okay?

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Speaker 1: I'm fine?

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Speaker 5: Oh my god, you.

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Speaker 8: Have a gas bullet right now?

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Speaker 5: No? Oh, I think I had, I've had one about

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to come up my throat. Astronomers found clumps of possible

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oxygen rich gas traveling up to twenty million miles per

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hour from V four four five Pupie, the Milky ways

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only confirmed helium nova. The system has been hidden behind

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its own dust for more than twenty years, and scientists

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still cannot explain how these incredibly fast gas bullets were produced.

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gas bullet?

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Speaker 8: Gas bullet? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: So there you heard it here, everybody. Look, if that's

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all you get out of tonight's show, you got that

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going for you. You can just use the term gas bullet.

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Speaker 8: Crap and gas bullets.

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Speaker 5: Wait, yeah, so that's all you can Maybe that's all

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you'll learn tonight the new term gas bullets. All right. Then,

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an Arctic squid mother was found raising eggs below freezing

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So that's below thirty two degrees paradiit researchers recorded the

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first wild footage of a mature Arctic bobtail squid beside

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her eggs in northeast Greenland. She was living one hundred

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and sixty four feet underwater at about twenty nine degrees fahrenheit,

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proving these poorly understood squid can reproduce in one of

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the coldest and lease to explore marine environments on Earth.

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Speaker 5: But why would that bother them? I don't know. Sometimes

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sometimes I wonder what's weird about these articles? Are they weird?

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all right. The next one, I think it's our last

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last one. People are becoming tourists in a place that

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doesn't exist, it says. Researchers say. A very creepy internet

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legend known as the back rooms has evolved into a

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form of digital tourism. Millions of people now explore its

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fictional yellow halways through videos and games, maps, virtual reality,

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and homemade survival guides collectively building and visiting an imaginary

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horror destination.

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Speaker 8: I mean, like like a virtual space kind of thing.

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Speaker 5: I don't I don't understand any of this. I mean

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you haven't a dumb guy read the news right now. Yeah,

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I don't know. That's yeah, it's just more unverified crap.

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Let's do our clip X. I think they're all really

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quick tonight. But they're all they're all quick.

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Speaker 8: That's like.

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Speaker 5: Clip one. Sound is good. This is a this is

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one big, big, big, big big turtle. Or it's completely

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unverified crap. He has the But those things can live

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up to four hundred years, so maybe that's a real

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old one.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that's pretty crazy.

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Speaker 5: Could you imagine living four hundred years? Do you remember

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those big tortoises at Como Zoo.

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Speaker 8: I never saw those, No, you never did.

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Speaker 5: Oh my god. I saw those when I was a

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little kid, and you know, you could ride them. They

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let you ride them, and they just didn't care, and

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you'd sit on them and they were just they were

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just two of them, and you would just go there

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and do whatever you want to do. Poor tortoises. They

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were there, and I remember taking my kids there and

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they were still there and I and I wonder if

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they're there anymore. Probably not.

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Speaker 8: I haven't been in since this little kid. I don't

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remember that.

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Speaker 5: You don't remember the tortoise. That's right.

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Speaker 8: I've go los there once when I was a little kid.

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Speaker 5: That's because, yeah, it's because that was what when you

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were a little kid was like nineteen ninety two.

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Speaker 8: I was born in seventy two, so whatever I'm giving you,

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that was the sixties.

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Speaker 5: All right, next clip too, This sound is good. This

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is weird now, oh oh, never mind. This is another

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turtle clip, A speed of turtles. Go ahead and play

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Speaker 7: Nobody talks about this, but turtles can actually breathe through

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their butt. Yep, it's real. I even had to look

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at it myself. It's called chloacal respiration. Sounds crazy, but

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it's an incredible survival mechanism. They have specialized sacks within

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their tail that allows them to absorb water and take

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that oxygen out of the water, giving them the ability

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to stay underwater for hours, even in shur in the wintertime.

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Speaker 5: Can you wou'd be great if you could breathe your butt.

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Speaker 8: I can't think of I can't think of a situation

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where I would need to do.

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Speaker 5: That would be handy of you when swimming and then

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you're upside down. I got down, tail up. He gets

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you can breathe your butt, all right? Clip to This

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is neat This is lightning in a bottle, and it's

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apparently mercury in a vacuum with neon gas, no electricity.

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But this is what it what it does when you

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shake it. Of course, mercury is holy toxic. Don't so impressive.

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I just I'm shocked at works this well. I would

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never guess that. I look that the mercury gets caught

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in the top that falls out.

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Speaker 8: Really cool.

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Speaker 5: Wow, this is one of the coolest things I've ever made.

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Don't make it at all.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, mercury is not good for you.

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Speaker 5: No, it's extremely toxic. But I used to play that.

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I was a kidd bottles of it.

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Speaker 8: Oh my god, I didn't know any better.

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Speaker 5: It's like, hey, dad, I got some more mercury. Oh

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have fun.

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Speaker 8: Okay, you didn't know now.

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Speaker 5: If that happened and you dropped it. They would call

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that hasthmat crew. All right, clip for the sound is good.

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Apparently there's a big invasion of these.

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Speaker 8: Uh that clip did not come through it.

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Speaker 5: Oh it didn't.

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Speaker 8: That's okay, I didn't get that one. This is the

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bear one.

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Speaker 5: Well, let's skip to the bear in the air.

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Speaker 8: I bet everybody see this one. My house is pretty cool.

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Speaker 5: Well, but is this real? That's my question.

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Speaker 8: I'm pretty sure it is.

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Speaker 5: I'm on the highway. Are you calling about a bear? Yeah,

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it's alive. Yeah, okay.

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Speaker 7: And they said there's nothing that they could do.

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Speaker 5: They could go in and shoo it, tranquilize to.

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Speaker 4: Get it down.

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Speaker 5: It will just fall that.

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Speaker 9: Then it's going to fall and could hurt itself.

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Speaker 5: So that well, you know, I've seen them do They

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bring nuts out and let it fall into a trampoline

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and then sometimes they bounce out of the trampoline. I've

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seen that too. They got one in my neighborhood that

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was bothering people and they used the trampoline and it

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bounced out and landed on the ground. Anyhow, all right,

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clip sex, it's the last one. It's good. Sound. This

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is kind of interesting because we're going to have a

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twelve meter tall object. It's about to crash into the

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Moon at eight thousand miles an hour eight eight thousand

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kilometers an hour.

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Speaker 9: Go ahead, something is about to crash into the Moon.

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Astronomers are tracking. This object is about twelve meters tall,

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which is like a four story building and four meters

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wide as it approaches the Moon.

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Speaker 6: We know what it is.

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Speaker 9: It is the four thousand kilogram upper stage of a

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SpaceX Falcon nine rocket and it has been drifting through

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space for the past year and a half after it

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launched two missions towards the Moon. Over six hundred and

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eighty Falcon nine rockets have been launched. Most of these

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upper stages have either re entered Earth's atmosphere or are

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also still stromitting close to Earth. But after this one completed, it's.

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Speaker 5: Six hundred and eighty launches of that rocket.

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Speaker 8: That's insane. It's been busy. Ho well those are a

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bit yeah, I just.

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Speaker 5: I can't even go branded. All right, we're back to

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the week fact your favorite bumpers.

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Speaker 8: It is like this one.

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Speaker 2: It's now time for untold radio weird Fact of the

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Week that is kind of weird.

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Speaker 5: Hello, Jeff, We're about to go and do Weird Factor

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of the Week, but I want to let everybody know

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Richard is in the back round. Yep, Hello Richard. We're

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gonna get you soon, all right. So weird fact of

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the week. Some people may or may not know this,

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but octopuses have three hearts. They have blue blood because

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it's made of its copper based, not iron based, and

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they have two hearts. One pumps blood to the gills

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and one pumps blood to the body.

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Speaker 8: I'm pretty sure they're aliens.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think so.

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Speaker 8: They're not related to anything else. They are bizarre.

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Speaker 5: You know what. The weirdest part of the weird Factor

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of the week is his beautiful artwork hand hand ron mhmm,

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hand drawn by North American uh, fairy artists. Yeah, a

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little tiny creature indus through those all right. Anyways, that crap, Yeah,

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enough of that crap. So we want to do do

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we want to do a little bit of audience trivia

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or not? Should we get Richard on? We should just

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get Richard on?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, we can see the Tribune and if we have any.

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Speaker 5: Time, we will we will do that. And what could

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we get? What can we give away in a knot contest?

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I know? Another unverified crap t shirt. So we'll come

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back to that. Yeah, we'll come back to that. Maybe

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even Richard will play. Yeah, all right, so uh let

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me uh probably call for a quick break in him

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take a real quick break.

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Speaker 2: You'll never look at humanity's place in the cosmos the

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same way again.

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Speaker 8: And we are back, Well, one of us is back.

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Speaker 5: I'm back. I'm just hidding. Should we Let's throw up

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the info on the New York Bigfoot conference and before

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we bring Richard on. Well that's fine, so let me

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talk about Richard. Oh, there you go. Just let people know,

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please get your tickets. I will be there. We've got

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Derby York, Ken Gearhart, Lauren Coleman, We've got Maria Mayor

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from Expedition Bigfoot, myself, Adam Davies, and then town hall

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host Steve Calls. It should be really good. And so

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that's October second is like free and put your ticket.

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We'll get you in for the speakers to the third

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and come and hang out in beautiful Gloversville, Johnstown, Gloversville. Yeah,

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there's a bar code. There are a QR code and

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you can scan it. You can rewind it and scan it.

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What do we got here? Okay. Richard McCandleish is a

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sixty three year old disabled veteran, and he served in

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the Army for six years before being honorably discharged. McCandleish

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is a retired percussionist. I think they mean drummer, right,

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who played with many stars on tour. We'll have to

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get into that a little bit. He wrote music for

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Atlantic Records, which has been put on hold. Richard enjoys catfishing,

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metal detecting, and being in the woods when he's not

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writing his Harley Nice h with his wife Diana mcandle ish,

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has been researching Bigfoot and other paranormal entities for over

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fifty years. And I think me and Joe saw some

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of those weird entities. I don't know what the hell

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we saw. What category would you put that in? Jeff?

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Birds that don't look like birds and don't.

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Speaker 8: Fly ice rangers?

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Speaker 5: I guess I don't want his video. Let's let's welcome Richard.

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Speaker 8: Welcome Richard there he is. Hey, good to see you.

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Speaker 5: How are you doing, Richard?

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Speaker 1: Oh? Pretty good yourself.

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Speaker 5: I'm doing good. It's good to meet you.

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Speaker 1: Yanks show.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, No, you're in you're in Ohio? What part of Ohio?

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Speaker 10: Are you in?

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Speaker 1: Southeastern?

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Speaker 5: Southeastern? Okay? And is that is that more mountainous? Is

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that more flat?

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Speaker 1: Well, we got the the bottom part of the Appalachian

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Mountains down here, the Hawking Hawking County where Old Man's

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Cave is and patch. That's all.

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Speaker 5: Now you've obviously you've been doing this a long time.

470
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,640
It were longer than me. How did you get into it?

471
00:33:24,759 --> 00:33:28,799
And what happened? What caused the kind of life devotion

472
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:33,599
to this topic? H What was the accident?

473
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: What started with my our new neighbors that moved in

474
00:33:38,799 --> 00:33:42,839
across the street from us, and that was back in

475
00:33:43,559 --> 00:33:49,039
nineteen seventy two, and his name was Rusty and he

476
00:33:49,279 --> 00:33:51,920
was like five six years older than me at the time,

477
00:33:52,759 --> 00:33:56,799
and he said he came over as we've been friends,

478
00:33:56,839 --> 00:34:00,400
and he said, hey, I want you to come come

479
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:07,119
and uh listen to something, okay, And uh so we

480
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,280
got on the railroad tracks and we were walking and

481
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,840
we got up to the bridge. Hey, gets now we

482
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:14,760
got to climb up over the bridge and get out

483
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,719
there on this big sandstone pillar that the bridge is

484
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:19,760
sitting on, and we just got to sit here at

485
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:24,960
this creek and listen, I said, okay, And uh so

486
00:34:25,079 --> 00:34:27,159
we were sitting there for an hour or two hours,

487
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,559
three and I said, hey, man, I said, what what

488
00:34:31,679 --> 00:34:34,079
you know? He's like, man, just be quiet, just be

489
00:34:34,199 --> 00:34:37,199
quiet and listen. I said, okay, your butts fell like lead,

490
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,960
you know. And and then about that time you heard

491
00:34:40,039 --> 00:34:44,079
this bunch of trees breaking in the distance up the creek,

492
00:34:44,639 --> 00:34:48,400
and then a giant flash sounded like a cow was

493
00:34:48,679 --> 00:34:52,039
you know, jumped in it or some but uh wee can.

494
00:34:52,119 --> 00:34:54,360
For the longest time, we couldn't figure out. It didn't

495
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,280
happen all the time, It just happened every now and

496
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,159
then we he said that thing's out there, come and listen.

497
00:34:59,199 --> 00:35:01,800
We're going to listen to it again, and would come back.

498
00:35:02,519 --> 00:35:06,920
And we didn't know what it was. But then we

499
00:35:07,119 --> 00:35:10,639
was working at the feed meal at the time, and

500
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,440
our pay was, you know, a bottle of pop and

501
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,079
a bag of peanuts at the end of the day.

502
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:19,400
And we the old mill and hear these old men,

503
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,000
you know, tell their stories and cackling and stuff, and

504
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,559
that one old gentleman said, hey, Clarence, is that old

505
00:35:25,639 --> 00:35:30,960
Howler up your way yet? And we kept thinking to ourselves, like, Howler,

506
00:35:31,079 --> 00:35:35,639
what's some kind of a mad dog or something. And

507
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:40,679
we didn't know at the time, but things unfolded as

508
00:35:41,039 --> 00:35:44,920
what I know now what I didn't know? Then things

509
00:35:45,079 --> 00:35:48,320
just kind of fell into place because down the road

510
00:35:48,519 --> 00:35:50,880
it was we couldn't I couldn't figure out what that

511
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:59,559
splashing sound was. And then moved to nineteen seventy five,

512
00:36:00,559 --> 00:36:03,960
and my buddy Russy said, Hey, you got to come

513
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,280
and check this place out. Because he hung around with

514
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,559
some other friends that you know, we're older than me.

515
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:10,880
And when he got done with them, he come over

516
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:15,119
and we go hang out, and he said, this place is,

517
00:36:15,519 --> 00:36:20,079
you know, uh close to Logan. I'm like what he said,

518
00:36:20,119 --> 00:36:22,800
because we had to ride our bicycles out there and

519
00:36:23,119 --> 00:36:29,960
uh and it's like, uh twelve maybe twelve miles outside

520
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,480
of the town from there and on one of the

521
00:36:32,559 --> 00:36:36,920
roads that are listed on the Give us a book

522
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,199
World's Record. Let's take more lives than the real dead

523
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:43,280
Man's Curve, and I'm gonna ride the ball. We're riding

524
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,880
bicycles on this going to this place that he called

525
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:51,920
him and his friends called the pit and in a

526
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:56,480
border between one of the three counties that I investigate

527
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:03,679
research and which is Perry County, Fairfield County, and Hawking County, Ohio.

528
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:09,800
And one day I was out there by myself, and

529
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:13,400
that was in nineteen seventy five at the age of thirteen,

530
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,320
and that's what I saw for the first time in

531
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,760
my life. It just scared me to death. I saw

532
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:25,400
the back end when I climbed down to the creek

533
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:30,960
and came up just like a excoosey like pool above

534
00:37:31,039 --> 00:37:34,639
these where the two giant where the two waterfalls is

535
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:38,320
down here. And when I was climbing down in I

536
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,199
started to climb up to the top and when my

537
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,880
eyes cut the falls across the top, I saw it

538
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:48,679
right across the falls from me. It had to be

539
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:53,519
like an alpha male because this thing was giant. I

540
00:37:53,639 --> 00:37:55,880
only saw the back of him, but it was a

541
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,159
bigfoot and I just I just froze. I just I

542
00:37:59,199 --> 00:38:00,880
didn't At the time, I was like, I didn't know

543
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:02,960
what it was. I'm kind of beast. I was staying

544
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:04,280
on the other side of the wall, but it was

545
00:38:05,039 --> 00:38:08,320
looking away from me. And one I know now. What

546
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,320
I didn't know then was they knew I was there,

547
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:17,599
or it knew I was there. But uh, I just uh.

548
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:24,440
Throughout the years, I was just I just had to

549
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:28,000
see this thing again. I didn't care what it cost me.

550
00:38:28,079 --> 00:38:32,039
I just but I never told anybody. I never told

551
00:38:32,079 --> 00:38:37,320
any of my other friends. Even when I was in school,

552
00:38:37,559 --> 00:38:41,280
I never told anybody what was going on. Uh. And

553
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,239
then when I got out of school, even when I

554
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,840
went uh to the military, I never told anybody in

555
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:53,280
the military. And then when I came back, I was

556
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:59,840
on the trail again. And it's cost me a dear

557
00:39:00,039 --> 00:39:04,639
friendships and uh and it's cost me my first marriage

558
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:09,840
and it's cost me more friendships. And it's like it's like, well,

559
00:39:12,039 --> 00:39:15,559
what's it going to take, you know, to satisfy you know, me,

560
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:22,320
my personal self. Uh two, Uh, I can't to start over,

561
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,159
like I said, Uh, I never really meant for this

562
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:29,000
stuff to be out in the public. Uh. This wasn't

563
00:39:29,039 --> 00:39:31,400
for the public. This is just for me and my

564
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:36,840
friends and personally and uh. And a picture leaked out

565
00:39:37,599 --> 00:39:41,480
and I guess they wanted me to prove myself. I

566
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,960
don't have to unapprove. It's just a hobby of mine

567
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:50,519
that I did with my friend Rusty and uh, and

568
00:39:50,679 --> 00:39:54,679
things just you know how things are spied out of

569
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:59,039
control and like a dog broke off a chain on

570
00:39:59,159 --> 00:40:01,639
a you know, like a Tri state dog guide and

571
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,920
didn't come back. You know, I just had to see

572
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,280
this thing. And then but when I'm trying to find

573
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:15,719
this bigfoot critter, I'm running into other things out there, concryptids,

574
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:22,719
call what you want. I've seen some things that I

575
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:28,800
just can't I don't have any answers for. And and

576
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,800
I've had not just me and my personal self. I

577
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:36,360
have witnessed things so much Doug and Jeff that I've

578
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:42,239
actually had people come out and witness these things. And

579
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:46,000
I even hired a skeptic on my team, David Levern,

580
00:40:47,639 --> 00:40:49,880
just to you know, because I take my stuff out

581
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:55,679
to these bigfoot, you know, vestibal things whatever, but I

582
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,000
don't have anything for sale on my boot that people

583
00:40:58,039 --> 00:40:59,400
come up and they go, how much is that track

584
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,800
for sell on us? I'm not here to sell anything, buddy,

585
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,000
And they're like, well, what is your stand? I go,

586
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:10,719
this is my hobby and this is what is out

587
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:14,159
in your out here in our national forest, believe it

588
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,079
or not. I'm not here to make you believe. It's

589
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:20,320
just this is what's in your backyard. Do you tell

590
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:24,119
me what you think you're looking at? And uh, because

591
00:41:24,159 --> 00:41:25,960
a couple of the two or three of these things

592
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,119
are not fruit, not in berry eaters. You can look

593
00:41:28,119 --> 00:41:32,599
at that. You've seen the tracks. They're a predator stalker,

594
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:36,559
meat eater. And I just, like I said, I just

595
00:41:38,159 --> 00:41:40,800
and then just one thing led to another. And then

596
00:41:41,119 --> 00:41:44,159
when I found out that's what that big splash was

597
00:41:45,199 --> 00:41:50,719
down the road was, that's where the bigfoot was fishing.

598
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:56,000
And that's how I knew down the road trying to

599
00:41:56,039 --> 00:41:58,760
find this critter because I was tracking down to the

600
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,920
ears on the hilt the mountaintops. I followed him up

601
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:06,039
there watching fallen Wood talk all the way down to

602
00:42:06,159 --> 00:42:09,519
the flats, now down to the creeks. He's running the creeks,

603
00:42:11,199 --> 00:42:13,679
and uh, that's what told me.

604
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:20,679
Speaker 5: Uh, you know to look for and have you experienced trees,

605
00:42:21,079 --> 00:42:25,480
entire trees coming down near you in the forest, Uh,

606
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:27,679
my whole trees.

607
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 1: I mean I've heard the big giant snipe breaks and

608
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,639
and not know the big thump of the the other

609
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:40,519
the peace landing. You hear big loud crack and no

610
00:42:40,639 --> 00:42:44,199
big thumb and then you hear it like he's running

611
00:42:44,599 --> 00:42:47,480
taking or going off in the woods with it. Uh,

612
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:49,880
and then drops it or whatever he takes off ando.

613
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,360
But but no, that's how I going back to that

614
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,599
one part. I was where. That's how I could tell

615
00:42:57,639 --> 00:43:01,079
that he was fishing, because when we got in the

616
00:43:01,119 --> 00:43:03,519
creek and went over there to where he was at

617
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:05,760
a few days later, you could look up on the

618
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:11,519
bank and see shiny little minnows, dried minnows, hundreds of them.

619
00:43:13,199 --> 00:43:16,239
That's what he was doing. That's how we could tell.

620
00:43:16,639 --> 00:43:18,440
When you're walking the creeks and look up, you can

621
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,400
see it like just one section where like a tidal

622
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,280
wave it hit it, and you can see the little

623
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:29,199
sparkles up there, dried minnows, And I'm like, yep, he

624
00:43:30,079 --> 00:43:30,920
was fishing right here.

625
00:43:31,559 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 5: Well, what do you think they're doing? Can you explain

626
00:43:33,519 --> 00:43:37,440
what you think or how they fish? What would be

627
00:43:37,519 --> 00:43:39,079
your guess? What I mean?

628
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 1: Well, Doug, I've seen a few things in the creek.

629
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,320
I've seen it to where they've had a log up.

630
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,079
I've seen three logs in one area where they've had

631
00:43:52,159 --> 00:43:54,800
one log up there to where they diverted the water

632
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:59,519
and they brought two other logs in and had a

633
00:43:59,559 --> 00:44:03,679
big and this but at the very tip of it

634
00:44:04,039 --> 00:44:07,280
to where they were in a v and I've walked

635
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,079
into it to where a couple of times like ooh,

636
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:13,159
that's that's full of crayfish and and minnows and it's

637
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:16,800
just filled to the brim and uh. And that told

638
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:21,119
me I came onto a uh another uh bigfoot feeding

639
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:25,639
uh place where he's catching fish. And then the other part,

640
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,199
like I said, is where they they'll walk up along

641
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,960
the side of a creek and uh looking for a

642
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,920
spools of fish and then they just jump in cause

643
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,480
a big tidal wave and splashed up on the bank

644
00:44:36,519 --> 00:44:38,320
and you can see you'll just pick what he wants

645
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,360
and then there's a little a ton of those little

646
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,119
minnows left. They die up there and they can see

647
00:44:43,159 --> 00:44:44,480
the sparkles up on the banks.

648
00:44:45,039 --> 00:44:48,639
Speaker 5: So they use so they use like a displacement method.

649
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,960
They just leap in. So if you took like a

650
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:57,000
bowl of water and put cheerios in there and they

651
00:44:57,199 --> 00:45:01,679
just kind of bang and they the stuff overflows out

652
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:08,639
of the sides and like minnows and small fish. That's interesting.

653
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,400
I guess that might be really effective in a small

654
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:12,079
creek like that.

655
00:45:13,159 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's what I'm teaching. My other partner, Larry Ramsey,

656
00:45:20,119 --> 00:45:24,280
he's my second hand man. He's he's one on training

657
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:29,800
and he he's going really good. I really appreciate him

658
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,400
what he does and coming down and also David Levering

659
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:34,679
is being a skeptic too, and.

660
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 5: That somebody called the Sasquatch tsunami. Eric. Yeah, yeah, that's interesting.

661
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,679
That really is I'm thinking about. I can get a picture,

662
00:45:48,679 --> 00:45:52,000
and I guess I am. What's interesting is we had

663
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:55,920
a guy on Richard that says he was walking by

664
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,280
a small pond and then, you know, in the night,

665
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,599
he wanted to test his bike out and he gets

666
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,159
near on the pond with his bike and he hears

667
00:46:04,199 --> 00:46:08,000
a big godooge like a dip charge, kind of like

668
00:46:08,079 --> 00:46:12,320
you described. And then he got curious and laid his

669
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,480
bike up against a tree, thinking he's going to try

670
00:46:15,559 --> 00:46:19,679
to see a beaver something, and he sees a big

671
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:23,360
rock flying at him, a huge rice that it was

672
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,800
like massive, like three feet two feet two and a half,

673
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,360
you know, and it just landed near him with a

674
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:34,679
big adoution. So maybe that's maybe that bigfoot was fishing.

675
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I could see that would.

676
00:46:37,679 --> 00:46:40,039
Speaker 5: Work even with a rock, a huge rock.

677
00:46:41,039 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 1: Well, I don't uh. I mentioned this also to another

678
00:46:46,199 --> 00:46:49,039
friend of mine. We just became friends. We didn't know

679
00:46:49,119 --> 00:46:52,199
each other at the time, but his name's Kane Michaels

680
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,840
down here in Hawking and he called me one day

681
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,960
and he said, Richard, is there anything that I could

682
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,760
amp up the activity here at my place? Because he's

683
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:12,159
he's got Bigfoot activity over there big time. And I said, yeah, well,

684
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,119
I'm looking at your property and looking down here at

685
00:47:15,119 --> 00:47:16,719
your pond and everything. I said, yeah, there's probably one

686
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:18,280
another thing you could do. And he said what's that?

687
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:22,199
And I go. He had two these half sunken boats

688
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:25,239
over there by by this tree in his pond, and

689
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,480
I said, get them out of there and get them

690
00:47:27,519 --> 00:47:29,000
away from that tree over there. And he's like why,

691
00:47:29,079 --> 00:47:32,760
I said, because I seen spawning poles over there, of tidepoles.

692
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:36,559
And he said, okay, well what I go? Well, I said,

693
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:40,239
I'm telling you down here with this is that. I said,

694
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,000
watch if I wouldn't be surprised that the Bigfoot. When't

695
00:47:43,199 --> 00:47:45,360
you wake up in the morning some morning and you

696
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:47,159
look down there and there'd be a big branch broke

697
00:47:47,199 --> 00:47:50,239
off your tree down there. It's where he had taken

698
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:52,960
that branch with the whole leaves on it and shoved

699
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:54,760
it down in his pond right there and rolled it

700
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:58,079
like cotton candy all that frog larvae and all the

701
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:00,119
tidepoles and pulled it back up and started eat it.

702
00:48:00,199 --> 00:48:05,840
And sure enough, within a week later he called and said, Richard,

703
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,840
he said, that's what exactly. There's a big branch broke

704
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:10,960
off my tree and there's a frog all over there

705
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:12,079
in the side of the pond down there.

706
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 5: Interesting. Interesting, Yeah, yeah, I would have. I would imagine

707
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:24,440
we haven't even considered all of the different foods that

708
00:48:24,599 --> 00:48:27,800
they would go after. Since we're talking about food, is

709
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:29,920
there any other foods that are kind of odd that

710
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:31,960
we wouldn't think of that you've noticed.

711
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:36,519
Speaker 1: Well, here's a moment it ISRAELI bugged me for the

712
00:48:36,599 --> 00:48:43,199
longest time, Doug. I was in this area and I saw, uh,

713
00:48:44,199 --> 00:48:47,400
there's like a bigfoot you Uh, I'm standing out there

714
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:50,159
by the edge of this cornfield. He kind of I

715
00:48:50,199 --> 00:48:51,840
thought it looked like it was sick or something. It

716
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:53,679
just kind of stood there from it and just kind

717
00:48:53,679 --> 00:48:57,039
of lumpered around and just you know, went down and

718
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,639
what I didn't know, Uh, I think he just took

719
00:48:59,639 --> 00:49:02,559
a nap up. But he came out of there and

720
00:49:02,679 --> 00:49:06,880
he went right over right beside this wild mustard patch

721
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,119
right beside the cornfield. There was a little pass of

722
00:49:10,159 --> 00:49:13,840
the wild mustard there. He wasn't eating that. He picked

723
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,000
it up and he put into his mouth. No no, no, no,

724
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:17,519
like I was sucking on it, and he threw it

725
00:49:17,599 --> 00:49:21,199
down and everything, and I'm like, well, what's the attributes

726
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:26,480
for wild mustard? I was thinking, what, he's not eating us,

727
00:49:26,519 --> 00:49:29,519
so what's the attributes on it? And they set us

728
00:49:29,559 --> 00:49:32,719
off the charts on all vitamin's, minerals and everything else

729
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:34,480
like that, And I said, yeah, yeaheah, yeah, I know that.

730
00:49:34,559 --> 00:49:37,119
But I said, but it's not he's not eating it.

731
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 5: And then.

732
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:46,360
Speaker 1: Years later I found out, Uh it was a uh

733
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:52,599
it's the aphids lay their eggs underneath the leaves of

734
00:49:52,679 --> 00:49:57,880
the wild mustard plant. Now what's the attributes of the

735
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:04,480
aphid eggs? And it contribute to stomach problems? Okay, get

736
00:50:04,559 --> 00:50:08,920
curious stomach? Oh anything with the intestinal Okay, just as

737
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:10,760
like you know you see a bunch of horrehound roots

738
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:11,320
tore up.

739
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:15,159
Speaker 5: Well, well yeah, and even I mean even mustard alone

740
00:50:15,199 --> 00:50:20,840
has got a lot of properties, even anti cancer properties. Yes,

741
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:26,000
it's interesting immune imm you know, help, but did you

742
00:50:26,119 --> 00:50:29,639
actually find like the leaves on the ground too, and

743
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:31,880
the stems Yeah, he just.

744
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 1: Pull up a whole shoot from the roots up and

745
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,320
he just takes it right around from the root and

746
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:38,719
he just like no, no, no, no, no. He just

747
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:40,239
suck on it all the way to the end. He

748
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:44,280
just tossed it down and he was off the bottom.

749
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:47,039
Speaker 5: Oh so it was just like wet and pushed down

750
00:50:47,199 --> 00:50:51,840
more like. Yeah, it wasn't chewed, it was just sucked off.

751
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 1: Just just suck the eggs, run off the leaves, all

752
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:57,119
about that, just fasten it down.

753
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 5: Well, what does it feel? What is it feel like

754
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:04,280
when you when you find something odd? Because what other

755
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:09,519
animal would just suck mustard shoots? Yeah, it seems it

756
00:51:09,559 --> 00:51:12,000
seems like odd. I can't I can't picture any other

757
00:51:12,119 --> 00:51:13,000
animal doing that.

758
00:51:14,079 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 1: Well, another thing another thing they do too is I've

759
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,800
noticed the uh where you don't see no tracks or

760
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,800
you don't see anything. Well, it's hard to find the tracks,

761
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:27,239
but to know where he's been, uh right one the

762
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:35,360
cocktails all right their peak rightness, or the where you're

763
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,920
where your cone cotton I call it. Your cork is

764
00:51:39,519 --> 00:51:42,760
real tight and hard. And the shoots are dark green,

765
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:46,119
some of them are really dark green. He'll get in

766
00:51:46,199 --> 00:51:49,199
the pond down there and he'll just they they snap

767
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:51,920
off the uh, just certain you know, just like a

768
00:51:52,039 --> 00:51:54,039
dog when you let him loose in the yard, he'll

769
00:51:54,039 --> 00:51:55,920
go over and here he won't eat all who eat

770
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:59,760
only certain shoots of grass for his stomach. Well there

771
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:04,039
they snap off, just certain green shoots. That's the way

772
00:52:04,079 --> 00:52:07,199
out out there, not up close to the edge upon

773
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:09,480
it's out further because that way you know that well

774
00:52:09,639 --> 00:52:12,599
deer didn't go clear out there to eat the you know,

775
00:52:12,679 --> 00:52:16,320
the cattails out that way out there, that's too deep. Yeah,

776
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,599
so now it's the big foot walking through and there

777
00:52:19,639 --> 00:52:22,239
ain't really a lot of food there. Fish, they're really

778
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:27,079
a lot of they'll snap off the green tips, tall

779
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:31,280
tall pieces. They just snap it off and eat it.

780
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:35,400
Speaker 5: And what what what maturity level where those cat till

781
00:52:36,199 --> 00:52:41,400
tips are? They They haven't they haven't seated yet, right,

782
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:43,679
this is pre seeding.

783
00:52:44,039 --> 00:52:46,679
Speaker 1: Yes, where they're just they're like a black and like

784
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:50,760
a dark burgundy collar red tight and you'll see it's

785
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:53,280
dark green shootes before they turn brown at the tips.

786
00:52:53,679 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 8: Yeah.

787
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 5: I've I've yeah, I've picked them a few times and

788
00:52:58,599 --> 00:53:02,719
eating them like in butter and a pan, and you know,

789
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:07,519
actually tastes kind of like a little oniony kind of

790
00:53:07,559 --> 00:53:09,719
like a potato sort of starchy.

791
00:53:10,559 --> 00:53:12,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Pioneer mashed potatoes.

792
00:53:13,079 --> 00:53:17,639
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh yeah yeah. And man, is there an endless

793
00:53:17,679 --> 00:53:21,119
supply of cat tails where these creatures hang out? Yes,

794
00:53:22,119 --> 00:53:24,960
just an endless And I always wondered. I always used

795
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,199
to People would say, well, why do they show up,

796
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:31,039
you know, in Minnesota in the spring. I said to me,

797
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:34,440
the first thing up is the cat tails, and they're

798
00:53:34,519 --> 00:53:37,280
delicious and highly nutritious. Maybe they come up to a

799
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:42,079
feast on that. Yeah, what time of year was that

800
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:44,639
for you guys? What time of year?

801
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:53,079
Speaker 1: That's just uh, the beginning of July. Actually here where

802
00:53:53,199 --> 00:53:56,840
the cattails are tight and bloom right now, just uh

803
00:53:58,360 --> 00:53:59,320
July right now.

804
00:54:00,039 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 5: I guess. I guess I never paid attention as to

805
00:54:03,159 --> 00:54:06,800
when they look like that. Okay, I gotta I gotta

806
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:14,119
start like trying to pin down when in Minnesota they're edible? Yeah,

807
00:54:14,119 --> 00:54:16,400
I remember, like I remember, me and my daughter we

808
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:20,039
went out, we harvested a bunch and we cooked them up,

809
00:54:20,159 --> 00:54:22,679
and she, you know, we liked him. We actually ate

810
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:30,760
everything we harvested. Interesting, Okay, what else? Obviously, I think

811
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:33,480
you're one of the few researchers. I've run into that.

812
00:54:34,079 --> 00:54:37,840
Other than like Russ Jones, Doctor Russ Jones, there's a

813
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:42,239
lot of noticing of, you know, things details like you have, Richard,

814
00:54:43,039 --> 00:54:46,000
I like your details. Anything else that comes to mind

815
00:54:46,039 --> 00:54:49,039
that you found, like ooh that could be a food

816
00:54:49,159 --> 00:54:56,519
source or that you've wondered about. You know.

817
00:54:56,760 --> 00:55:01,840
Speaker 1: Uh, I've seen and I've heard a lot of things

818
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:11,880
out there. One of the uh, one of the things

819
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:20,079
is I, uh, I've ran across where it was weird. Uh. Again,

820
00:55:20,159 --> 00:55:23,679
this was at another gentleman's house, a Kne's house, and

821
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:29,000
I told him we're walking and I told him, I said, hey,

822
00:55:29,039 --> 00:55:33,079
stop and he's like what And I said, wat's that

823
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:37,400
over there? He said what? We're looking up into? The

824
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:42,039
pine grows up there and he goes, what a piece

825
00:55:42,119 --> 00:55:45,800
of bark And I'm like, yeah, that piece of bark.

826
00:55:47,079 --> 00:55:48,840
And they're like, well, what about it's a piece of

827
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:52,239
bark up there in the pine, and like yeah, I said,

828
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:57,000
but that's oak. What's oak going in out here in

829
00:55:57,039 --> 00:56:00,199
the middle of pine? And they can't walk there? And

830
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:03,400
he lifted it up and uh, there's seventeen in track

831
00:56:03,519 --> 00:56:06,679
underneath it. It put that piece of Barker's track to

832
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:11,239
hide it. Oh and uh, and I've, like I told

833
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:14,000
you know a few people out there. I go, when

834
00:56:14,039 --> 00:56:18,039
you're looking at certain structures, I mean you got to

835
00:56:18,039 --> 00:56:20,599
look at mother nature too. Mother nature likes to play

836
00:56:20,599 --> 00:56:22,840
a lot of tricks and there and what I call

837
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:26,840
would talk. That's the stick language of the the bigfoot

838
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:28,960
that I try to follow.

839
00:56:29,199 --> 00:56:29,320
Speaker 5: Uh.

840
00:56:30,679 --> 00:56:33,400
Speaker 1: It's not out there all the time. It's not just

841
00:56:33,519 --> 00:56:38,000
you see it all the time. It's a it's directional

842
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:42,719
h And it's like a it's a directional thing. And

843
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:46,960
it's also like a picture graph what they use uh

844
00:56:47,159 --> 00:56:51,199
in traveling. How they let when the male goes through

845
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:54,239
and then the female and the little one follow Uh.

846
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:59,480
They I call it stick would talk And it's the

847
00:57:00,159 --> 00:57:04,559
glyfts or whatever. Yeah, they're symbols that they put on

848
00:57:04,639 --> 00:57:05,039
the ground.

849
00:57:05,519 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 5: Yep.

850
00:57:07,079 --> 00:57:09,519
Speaker 1: And then there's mid top up where.

851
00:57:10,119 --> 00:57:12,159
Speaker 5: Well what have you noticed? What do you think? What

852
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:14,480
do you think is being communicated with those glyphs?

853
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:20,239
Speaker 1: Well, they're uh, like I said, when you're out in

854
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:22,800
the forest and you see like for instance, you see

855
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:25,000
the X. You see everybody sees the axes, me stay

856
00:57:25,039 --> 00:57:28,599
out whatever. Uh, But there's other ones that's that are

857
00:57:28,639 --> 00:57:32,960
only about five foot tall and uh. And when you

858
00:57:33,039 --> 00:57:37,119
see those, usually it'll have the X and it'll have

859
00:57:37,199 --> 00:57:42,000
a stick leaning in the front of it. And that's

860
00:57:42,079 --> 00:57:46,280
usually uh. Usually the bigfoots signed to tell uh the

861
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:50,119
human person you know. Uh, the stick is warning to

862
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:55,800
the stick walker, backpacker hiker to stay on the trail. Uh.

863
00:57:57,519 --> 00:57:58,559
That's what that symbol means.

864
00:57:58,599 --> 00:57:58,920
Speaker 5: And uh.

865
00:57:59,239 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 1: And usually when you find in an a symbol with

866
00:58:02,519 --> 00:58:06,800
a with a stick laid out across the top or

867
00:58:07,159 --> 00:58:10,039
usually a stick, big stick or a long land across

868
00:58:10,079 --> 00:58:12,519
the top out in the four somewhere, it usually means

869
00:58:12,639 --> 00:58:19,480
a good cover. They like. This means good cover, That's

870
00:58:19,519 --> 00:58:20,599
what I've So.

871
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:27,119
Speaker 5: Are they communicating then to their their you know, family members.

872
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:30,239
Speaker 1: Or yes, and to other ones too?

873
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:33,679
Speaker 5: Do you do you think they hang in a real

874
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:36,920
loose group like they could be a mile apart? Do

875
00:58:37,039 --> 00:58:42,800
you think they actually are together at times like only

876
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:44,760
at night? Do you think they spread out? Do you

877
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:47,559
think they eat together? What are your thoughts?

878
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 1: Well, what I've noticed here, Doug, This is here in

879
00:58:52,159 --> 00:58:55,920
the three counties that I've done in fifty years. I

880
00:58:55,960 --> 00:59:00,559
don't know what they do anywhere else, but I know here, Uh,

881
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:11,400
there's usually three families, three males, three females, and usually

882
00:59:11,519 --> 00:59:15,559
they have they're young with them. It's usually in the

883
00:59:15,679 --> 00:59:20,599
young within those three families. Uh, there's two little two

884
00:59:20,679 --> 00:59:23,639
males and one female. Because when they're growing up being

885
00:59:23,679 --> 00:59:26,519
in that family unit, one of those males growing up

886
00:59:26,639 --> 00:59:30,000
is going to claim that female. And they don't do

887
00:59:30,119 --> 00:59:35,199
it in a struggle or fight or anything like that.

888
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:39,119
They what I've seen and what I've heard was they

889
00:59:39,239 --> 00:59:41,840
do they claim their female and the test of strength

890
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:43,679
and power, like what you know, go up there and

891
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:45,679
I can knock this tree. Now, well I can't do that. Well,

892
00:59:46,599 --> 00:59:48,800
you know their strength is biblical.

893
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 5: We're gonna we're going to talk about their strength too.

894
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:57,159
I have a feeling you've experienced it somehow.

895
00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:00,639
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, some level.

896
01:00:02,119 --> 01:00:05,199
Speaker 5: So I love how you kind of have a three

897
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:09,239
D handle on family members right in these groups. How

898
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:13,280
did you kind of come to that conclusion? And I'm

899
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:15,519
not doubting you at all, Richard, I'm not doubting you

900
01:00:15,639 --> 01:00:18,280
one little bit. I'm just want to want you to

901
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:19,639
pass on information.

902
01:00:20,639 --> 01:00:23,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's you know, I'm fine. I'm glad you said

903
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:26,199
that because I wish I've been saying this for the

904
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:32,960
longest time. If real researchers Doug would get together and

905
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:36,639
show just whoever the top person is in that group,

906
01:00:36,639 --> 01:00:38,760
don't have to show the whole group where just if

907
01:00:39,119 --> 01:00:44,400
the real researchers would show their information on their sightings, whatever,

908
01:00:44,599 --> 01:00:47,679
then you're going to see a correlation because I proved

909
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:51,440
I proved that. I proved that with another individual.

910
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, because I just have a feeling that there's going

911
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:57,400
to be other people are going to hear some of

912
01:00:57,480 --> 01:01:01,119
your theories and ideas and things you've notice to the years.

913
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:05,199
Fifty years is half a century you're doing this. People

914
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:06,199
need to listen to you.

915
01:01:07,599 --> 01:01:11,440
Speaker 1: You're not like, I'm not no expert, no no, no,

916
01:01:11,559 --> 01:01:12,519
I realized.

917
01:01:12,159 --> 01:01:15,559
Speaker 5: But you've got fifty years of experience, right, I don't

918
01:01:15,559 --> 01:01:20,199
think there's any experts, but you've noticed things that you

919
01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:23,559
can you can share and other people can connect their

920
01:01:23,599 --> 01:01:27,199
own dots and go, damn it, I saw something, you

921
01:01:27,239 --> 01:01:30,000
know what I mean? I saw that too one time,

922
01:01:30,079 --> 01:01:33,320
and then you two can hook up and compare notes

923
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:36,119
and so on. That's like, I agree, we all need

924
01:01:36,159 --> 01:01:37,280
to communicate way more.

925
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:41,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, because the public there's there's there's more questions than

926
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:45,280
there's evidence. But the evidence is there. It might be

927
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:49,679
in somebody's uh house or somebody you know, like you know,

928
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:51,519
most a lot of people won't come out and talk

929
01:01:51,559 --> 01:01:55,320
about things. But if there's if some people some would

930
01:01:55,920 --> 01:02:00,360
come out, you know, and just show the researchers they're

931
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:03,199
evidence or talk about it, then we can answer some

932
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:07,719
of these questions that people have just by Just like

933
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:09,559
when me and Kane first got together, we didn't know

934
01:02:09,559 --> 01:02:11,400
anybody from Adam, and I told him, I said, if

935
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:14,679
you just show me your map, just show me your map.

936
01:02:15,559 --> 01:02:18,000
And when we got together and we put our maps together,

937
01:02:19,079 --> 01:02:21,760
it was only like a sixteenth of finance off of

938
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:25,840
the route of travel between my three counties and his

939
01:02:26,039 --> 01:02:29,960
three counties. Where I stopped out, where I stopped he stopped,

940
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:33,119
and it was lined up right there, just like that.

941
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:35,199
You wouldn't believe the correlation.

942
01:02:35,679 --> 01:02:38,719
Speaker 5: Okay, somebody just wrote, I just put it up. He said,

943
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:45,519
nobody can put this puzzle together alone. Yeah, that's some

944
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:47,159
really good wisdom.

945
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:52,320
Speaker 1: Because there's just too much now anymore. Back in the seventies,

946
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:56,280
you don't know this, Doug and Jeff. Back in that

947
01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:59,119
time period, in these towns, rural towns, it was like

948
01:02:59,199 --> 01:03:02,079
a forest, so a forest. Everywhere you you was in

949
01:03:02,159 --> 01:03:05,119
a forest before you got to the National Forest. In

950
01:03:05,199 --> 01:03:07,519
these little towns you bought drive into it was like

951
01:03:07,639 --> 01:03:11,639
driving into a tunnel. And now it's like, well, welcome

952
01:03:11,679 --> 01:03:14,840
to ball to America because everything is there, ain't no

953
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:16,800
shade or anywhere. You going to these towns. It's wide

954
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:19,400
open fields and a lot of these farm fields are abandoned.

955
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:24,320
Now what used to be Lost Forest, Oh that headed

956
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:26,239
out of Old Man's Cave area, it went into these

957
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:29,239
rural towns. It just it was always you know, but

958
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:33,320
now it's now. They just sold two thousand and seven

959
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:35,800
and eight having one hundred acres to the oil and

960
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:37,880
gas rights people, and now they're going to be fracking

961
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:39,199
out here in the National Force.

962
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:44,199
Speaker 5: It's like, yeah, that's not Yeah, that stuff hurts to see.

963
01:03:44,679 --> 01:03:48,239
I I agree. They just tore down a huge force

964
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:52,639
near me that I did research in and it just

965
01:03:53,159 --> 01:03:54,519
bulldozed it all down.

966
01:03:55,159 --> 01:03:55,639
Speaker 1: Oh wow.

967
01:03:56,079 --> 01:03:59,159
Speaker 5: And of course they never consult with anybody. You know,

968
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:01,880
it's you see that. I love it. You see the

969
01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:05,519
for sale sign going up usually you know X amount

970
01:04:05,559 --> 01:04:09,679
of acres for sale, and and I've even called to

971
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:12,320
try to buy some of these areas. And maybe get

972
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:15,440
a bunch of people together to save them. And they're

973
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:19,639
always like, no, no, that's slated for blah blah blah.

974
01:04:19,679 --> 01:04:22,280
They already have made their mind up, and you know,

975
01:04:22,599 --> 01:04:24,800
they don't want to sell it. They want to develop

976
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:27,679
a big difference. Oh yeah, they want to continue to

977
01:04:27,719 --> 01:04:29,400
make money. They don't want to just sell it. When

978
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:32,320
they don't they don't continue to make money on it.

979
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:34,519
They want to sell it and make money on it

980
01:04:35,199 --> 01:04:39,039
long into the future. So they're not selling it to

981
01:04:39,079 --> 01:04:43,159
any conservation groups. It's not going to happen. Yeah, data

982
01:04:43,239 --> 01:04:46,119
centers and all sorts of crap. But a lot of these,

983
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:50,760
like strip malls, these developers build and then they want

984
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:54,119
to rent them out and so they'll continue to make money.

985
01:04:55,880 --> 01:05:01,000
But anyhow, long story, my change or wea change the subject.

986
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:03,840
I was asking you whether you had noticed anything else.

987
01:05:04,119 --> 01:05:07,559
And I hate to catch off guard on this, but

988
01:05:07,679 --> 01:05:12,880
if you noticed anything else. Richard had one food like meat, deer?

989
01:05:13,079 --> 01:05:15,960
How they would kill deer or do they eat you know,

990
01:05:16,119 --> 01:05:19,239
have you noticed that they're not eating as much meat?

991
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:20,960
I mean, what have you just their diet?

992
01:05:21,719 --> 01:05:22,440
Speaker 1: What do you what do you?

993
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:26,239
Speaker 5: Where? Does where does your brain go? After fifty years.

994
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:34,280
Speaker 1: Well, I had there was one freaky answer to them.

995
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:36,760
But there was one incident that I had. I was

996
01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:42,440
on this knoll and I saw it looked like a

997
01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:45,480
From where I was at, it looked like a like

998
01:05:45,559 --> 01:05:48,079
a mid used or so it might have been bigger.

999
01:05:48,239 --> 01:05:52,920
But I was looking at him across from this mountain

1000
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:55,679
range over here over to another one, and he was

1001
01:05:55,719 --> 01:05:59,880
looking at something on the other side. I'm like, okay,

1002
01:06:00,159 --> 01:06:01,480
was he looking? And then all of a sudden, when

1003
01:06:01,559 --> 01:06:06,360
he took off, it was like he ran through the mountain,

1004
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:09,280
I mean over the nole type, but it didn't look

1005
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:11,559
like he ran over the noise. It looked like he

1006
01:06:11,599 --> 01:06:14,559
went through the noll. And know how to explain it,

1007
01:06:15,159 --> 01:06:17,559
I went, oh, man, I was like lightning speed, and

1008
01:06:17,679 --> 01:06:20,679
I'm like, what did he see? And and I kept

1009
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:22,519
looking down where he would be coming out down at

1010
01:06:22,559 --> 01:06:25,519
the bottom, off to the left of me, and uh,

1011
01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:27,639
And then I caught something way off to the right,

1012
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:31,079
and there he was going. He had a deer. He

1013
01:06:31,239 --> 01:06:34,920
got a deer, And I'm like, oh, oh man, I

1014
01:06:35,639 --> 01:06:38,079
wish I wish I could have saw him take that

1015
01:06:38,199 --> 01:06:42,400
deer down. I don't you didn't hear nothing, You didn't

1016
01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:45,239
hear anything, not a noise of people or a squeal

1017
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:49,519
or nothing. And next thing you know, off he goes.

1018
01:06:49,559 --> 01:06:53,119
He's already gone down. I already took an off. And

1019
01:06:53,199 --> 01:06:55,800
then the other incident was I was at the pit

1020
01:06:56,800 --> 01:06:59,880
and I walked, Uh it was in the little pines

1021
01:07:00,199 --> 01:07:06,079
past the one of the uh, in this pine little thicket,

1022
01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:11,840
and there was three deer hide. I mean, there was

1023
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:14,800
blood all around the trees and this this little area

1024
01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:21,280
of blood everywhere, and the the pelts were ripped. There's

1025
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:26,480
three pelts ripped off and thrown in in this little

1026
01:07:26,519 --> 01:07:29,639
area right there, and there's in the pine grove are wow.

1027
01:07:30,159 --> 01:07:34,639
And uh there was no no meat, there's no deer,

1028
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:38,320
no bone, no none, but just something that ripped the

1029
01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:41,760
hids off of three deer. And uh, and.

1030
01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:43,920
Speaker 8: What we'll do that?

1031
01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:49,559
Speaker 5: I mean, it would be a lot to pack out

1032
01:07:49,679 --> 01:07:52,880
for if it was a poacher. They're gonna take something,

1033
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:56,039
but they're gonna leave, you know, they're not gonna carry

1034
01:07:56,079 --> 01:07:57,960
the bones away and they're not gonna carry all that.

1035
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:02,079
And one another thing, God, go ahead.

1036
01:08:03,360 --> 01:08:05,480
Speaker 1: No, I didn't mean I was gonna say. The other

1037
01:08:05,559 --> 01:08:11,800
thing was, uh, you seen where where somebody's cleaned the deer,

1038
01:08:12,559 --> 01:08:15,880
or even if a poacher was there where he's addressed

1039
01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:16,199
a deer.

1040
01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:17,560
Speaker 11: Uh.

1041
01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:20,439
Speaker 1: I've read across a dress, a dress out to where

1042
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:24,800
this was in the morning. Uh, it looked fresh, like

1043
01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:26,680
something just killed it. But if you go up and

1044
01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:33,239
touch it, all the all the innerds was frozen solid. Okay. Uh.

1045
01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:42,479
What was left there was uh, the heart, the liver, Uh,

1046
01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:43,840
the lungs, the testings.

1047
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:44,079
Speaker 11: Uh.

1048
01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:52,239
Speaker 1: And the brain was set out on the side, and

1049
01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:55,840
there was about there's a section about this long of

1050
01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:59,920
its spine, the deer's spine where I was eating down

1051
01:09:00,199 --> 01:09:03,239
mold down the points on it was mouled down to

1052
01:09:03,399 --> 01:09:08,439
a like a rounded corn cob, like like they're taking

1053
01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:14,880
they're taking the backstrap. Yeah, which is the you know,

1054
01:09:15,279 --> 01:09:19,680
obviously one of the best cuts, the best meat. Don't

1055
01:09:20,119 --> 01:09:22,600
I don't understand for the brains being out there.

1056
01:09:23,199 --> 01:09:26,000
Speaker 5: That's really weird. And there was no skull anywhere nearby,

1057
01:09:26,119 --> 01:09:26,960
no skull.

1058
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:29,920
Speaker 1: Right, there was nothing there just except for like you know,

1059
01:09:30,039 --> 01:09:31,960
he just dressed that deer. Just all the guts and

1060
01:09:32,119 --> 01:09:34,720
jerds are there. But the brain was there, the heart

1061
01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:37,119
delivered the lung it was all there.

1062
01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:41,640
Speaker 5: And and why don't was the head of the deer there, Richard,

1063
01:09:42,199 --> 01:09:44,760
the actual was the deer skull.

1064
01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:52,000
Speaker 1: There no skull there, just except for the innards. And

1065
01:09:52,119 --> 01:09:54,039
like I said, and this brains is there and uh

1066
01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:58,239
and the section of its uh spine that was eating

1067
01:09:58,319 --> 01:09:59,399
down like a corn cob.

1068
01:10:00,319 --> 01:10:01,199
Speaker 5: Geez, that's weird.

1069
01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:04,600
Speaker 1: Yeah what what what did that?

1070
01:10:05,239 --> 01:10:08,239
Speaker 5: Have you ever examined their like if you do find

1071
01:10:08,279 --> 01:10:10,680
a dead deer their legs to see if they've been

1072
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:17,279
twisted or broken or obviously you've heard Matt Moneymaker's stories

1073
01:10:17,359 --> 01:10:21,479
of finding deer without the liver, Piles of deer, you know,

1074
01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:25,640
with twisted, twisted legs, with the legs are broken, but

1075
01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:27,239
yet just the liver is gone.

1076
01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:31,439
Speaker 1: Oh wow, no I heard, Oh you haven't.

1077
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:36,800
Speaker 5: Okay, that goes way back to Matt's early days when

1078
01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:43,000
he was living in Ohio. Okay, And I've got I've

1079
01:10:43,079 --> 01:10:48,199
taken calls from like D n R people where they go.

1080
01:10:49,079 --> 01:10:51,079
Why would there be a pile of deer with the

1081
01:10:51,159 --> 01:10:58,159
legs broken, legs twisted and broken? And I was thought, well,

1082
01:10:58,520 --> 01:11:04,720
if you were gonna have nature's refrigerator, you would take

1083
01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:08,079
a deer, you would, you know, break its legs, capture

1084
01:11:08,119 --> 01:11:12,640
it and make it it mobile, but keep it alive. Yeah,

1085
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:17,760
I mean that makes sense. You know, it's horrific, but

1086
01:11:19,279 --> 01:11:22,159
it makes sense to me. It does. So I don't know,

1087
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:26,279
I don't know what your thoughts on on on deer,

1088
01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:28,960
but but that's a weird story you just told.

1089
01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:32,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I've seen in the forest. I've seen ah

1090
01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:36,680
since that says some weird stuff, But I've seen deer

1091
01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:40,880
bone out in the middle of nowhere, uh lick clean

1092
01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:46,199
white laying uh uh, laid out on a lull one

1093
01:11:46,239 --> 01:11:48,239
piece off there, just laid out and ie and perdie

1094
01:11:48,319 --> 01:11:50,600
right long. I don't know, and.

1095
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:55,760
Speaker 8: I don't know what would do that. That's crazy.

1096
01:11:56,439 --> 01:12:00,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, And uh, it's like a time where I went

1097
01:12:00,239 --> 01:12:06,760
on that. Uh. One of the scariest moments that I've

1098
01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:14,840
had was or I went on that. Uh the call

1099
01:12:15,399 --> 01:12:18,159
they called and said I was the closest one to

1100
01:12:18,279 --> 01:12:20,880
go to it. And I went out to this gentleman's

1101
01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:27,880
house and mocks a hala ohio and uh. And when

1102
01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:30,600
I got there, this eighty year old man he comes out,

1103
01:12:31,359 --> 01:12:33,279
he says, you, So you're the fellow. You're the big

1104
01:12:33,319 --> 01:12:35,840
foot feller to come to to check this out for me,

1105
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:40,319
aren't you. Yeah, that'd be me and uh, he said, well,

1106
01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:42,239
he said, I want you, I want you to come

1107
01:12:42,279 --> 01:12:46,079
in the house. I was hoping to go down to

1108
01:12:46,159 --> 01:12:48,039
the farm part, you know, take a look around and know.

1109
01:12:48,159 --> 01:12:51,199
He wanted me to come in the house and he said,

1110
01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:53,680
he said come around here is come over here. So

1111
01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:56,439
I said, you look, you see out this wonder right here?

1112
01:12:56,760 --> 01:12:58,359
He said, look down there, you see the corn crib.

1113
01:12:58,560 --> 01:13:01,279
He said that thing was bigger than the corn crib

1114
01:13:01,359 --> 01:13:03,199
that walked by. He said, I just wanted you to

1115
01:13:03,239 --> 01:13:05,479
see from in here where I was standing, to see

1116
01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:08,199
where that thing went by. And I said okay. So

1117
01:13:08,319 --> 01:13:09,840
he went down there and I said, you don't got

1118
01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:12,079
into farm mantels. He said, now my walk. We got

1119
01:13:12,199 --> 01:13:13,880
rid of him a long while ago when I when

1120
01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:16,600
my wife passed away, and I said, what, I ain't

1121
01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:18,079
really much here. I said, you ain't got nothing here

1122
01:13:18,119 --> 01:13:19,479
any of the farm maanels. There ain't nothing in the

1123
01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:22,560
corn cribbing, nothing in the barn. And he kept saying,

1124
01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:25,039
is this thing gonna come back her? I said no,

1125
01:13:25,239 --> 01:13:27,359
I don't think so. I think he's just coming through

1126
01:13:27,359 --> 01:13:28,840
here and he's looking for a little snack. He was

1127
01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:30,720
just passing by. Is anybody spent the night in your

1128
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:34,560
barn down there probably, and uh, he said, you sure,

1129
01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:36,479
and I said, well, I ain't sort about anything, but

1130
01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:38,600
I said you'd see if he had been here, a

1131
01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:40,600
concert coming through what there is? But no, there's no

1132
01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:44,840
nothing here. He said okay, and we got walking back

1133
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:46,640
up to the house and this other gentleman came in

1134
01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:49,520
and pulled up and he said, so are you telling

1135
01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:52,680
about your monster? And he said, well, why'n't you tell

1136
01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:55,279
him what you got? And I said, oh, you found

1137
01:13:55,359 --> 01:13:56,880
he got something too, And he said, well I got

1138
01:13:56,960 --> 01:14:00,359
something and he said, matter of fact, he's he's been

1139
01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:01,880
up there for a couple of days now. I think

1140
01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:09,520
he's still there, and uh really, and uh, what was weird? Doug?

1141
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:12,680
And Jeff was the old man. I asked him what

1142
01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:15,039
that critter looked like and he said it was big

1143
01:14:15,159 --> 01:14:17,399
and black and long and clumpty hair. And I said,

1144
01:14:17,439 --> 01:14:20,840
that's a big foot. And then when the other guy said,

1145
01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:23,720
he said, oh, you know it's bucker. He said, all

1146
01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:26,239
the cows are up here at the barn all how

1147
01:14:26,279 --> 01:14:29,479
and all right and radical and everything. He said, this

1148
01:14:29,640 --> 01:14:32,279
thing it sound like an little sien out there, and

1149
01:14:32,399 --> 01:14:39,279
I went, oh what wait? I said, well, he's got

1150
01:14:39,319 --> 01:14:46,039
a big foot and you got a howler. And I said, okay, well, uh, okay, well,

1151
01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:48,239
and this is right here at the end of January

1152
01:14:48,359 --> 01:14:53,159
going into February freezing ring. And I went out and

1153
01:14:53,279 --> 01:14:58,119
no kidding, Doug and Jeff, uh, I was in a

1154
01:14:58,199 --> 01:15:02,159
Gillie suit freezing ring. And I'm laying there. I got

1155
01:15:02,239 --> 01:15:05,800
the camera in my cross sticking out and uh, ten

1156
01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:09,359
feet in front of me, there's an eight foot drop

1157
01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:12,039
off ledger that goes way down the side of this mountain,

1158
01:15:12,079 --> 01:15:16,720
way down into that farmhouse. And I'm laying there in

1159
01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:20,079
about seven ten in the morning, I heard that old

1160
01:15:20,119 --> 01:15:23,640
hound long down her beller way down here him you

1161
01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:27,279
can hear him. And next thing you know, I heard,

1162
01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:30,359
I get to hear him coming. I heard it coming.

1163
01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:34,039
I'm going, oh, oh, what kind of luck am I getting? Now?

1164
01:15:34,119 --> 01:15:34,239
Speaker 11: Oh?

1165
01:15:34,359 --> 01:15:37,640
Speaker 1: This is Oh, my heart's are raising. I'm gonna here

1166
01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:40,920
he comes. I'm gonna get the best best footies ever.

1167
01:15:41,359 --> 01:15:43,479
Look at this. He's gonna walk right in front of

1168
01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:45,239
me because he has to, because he has to come

1169
01:15:45,279 --> 01:15:46,880
around that ledger and go down the hill that way.

1170
01:15:47,319 --> 01:15:51,279
And I was straight in my eyes and I almost got,

1171
01:15:51,359 --> 01:15:53,720
you know, like a headache trying to stare to the

1172
01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:56,000
right to see him come into view. And when I did,

1173
01:15:56,079 --> 01:15:58,880
I about got sick to my stomach cause I'm like, uh,

1174
01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:08,399
you're you're not the bigfoot. Uh you know, I'm thinking

1175
01:16:08,439 --> 01:16:09,640
it fine, I'm like, I'm looking at it, like what

1176
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:11,760
are you? But I know what he is. He's he's

1177
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:13,920
what they called back in the day where they said

1178
01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:16,960
that he had knocked this It wasn't a bigfoot. They

1179
01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:22,199
said it was a multi colored man beast that jumped

1180
01:16:22,199 --> 01:16:24,239
off his hill and knocked these people off the covered

1181
01:16:24,279 --> 01:16:27,119
wagon at this one time. And the and they was

1182
01:16:27,159 --> 01:16:30,079
taking rocks, throwing and beating it to get off these people,

1183
01:16:31,039 --> 01:16:35,520
and they said, no, one the bigfoot. Well, it stands

1184
01:16:35,640 --> 01:16:38,000
ten it's it's standing right in front of it, stopped

1185
01:16:38,119 --> 01:16:39,319
right in front of me, doug.

1186
01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:40,039
Speaker 5: Uh.

1187
01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:43,000
Speaker 1: And he's looking not looking at me. He's looking down

1188
01:16:43,039 --> 01:16:46,039
there with that old farmhouse is without houndog bellard. And

1189
01:16:46,199 --> 01:16:49,119
the weirdest thing I kept saying was what is that sound?

1190
01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:52,279
I'm looking at the side of his face. I'm like,

1191
01:16:52,359 --> 01:16:56,600
what does that sound? And and it was like a

1192
01:16:56,720 --> 01:16:59,479
hissing sound. And I just kept looking look at it,

1193
01:16:59,479 --> 01:17:01,880
looking at it. I'm trying to squim my eyeballs to

1194
01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:04,600
trying to get some eyeball featured. But his eye saw

1195
01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:06,640
it set back too far. I couldn't see his eyes,

1196
01:17:06,680 --> 01:17:10,800
and but I saw his lip move. He was sucking

1197
01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:16,840
the air. He was tasting the air. Doug he was,

1198
01:17:16,920 --> 01:17:18,319
And I was like, man, I hope he's not trying

1199
01:17:18,319 --> 01:17:21,479
to taste me, you know, because this thing is known

1200
01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:24,800
for attacking people. So I'm like, and I'm ten feet

1201
01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:28,680
from me, oh like, oh my lord, you know, neverybody's

1202
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:32,079
scared of my life, you know. Oh, man, here comes

1203
01:17:32,119 --> 01:17:34,560
the milk carton. I was like, I got to drop

1204
01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:36,600
on him. What's he gonna do. He's just gonna stand

1205
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:38,760
right there. You can just reach out and grab me, probably,

1206
01:17:39,439 --> 01:17:42,039
but he yeah, I know, he's ever bit four foot

1207
01:17:42,199 --> 01:17:44,880
above where the cameras aiming at him. So that puts

1208
01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:46,119
him like the twelve foot.

1209
01:17:48,079 --> 01:17:48,359
Speaker 5: That was.

1210
01:17:49,199 --> 01:17:51,199
Speaker 1: That was quite something. And I since you got the picture,

1211
01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:54,279
I think of the of that that's off a live

1212
01:17:54,479 --> 01:17:58,439
video and ten feet in front of me. He stood

1213
01:17:58,479 --> 01:18:02,600
there for three hours. He burnt the tape up, just

1214
01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:04,640
like a stone statue. When he heard that dog and

1215
01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:06,119
he came up and he stopped right in front of me,

1216
01:18:06,159 --> 01:18:07,520
and he just tasting the air.

1217
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:11,000
Speaker 5: Jeffy, you're welcome to put anything up.

1218
01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:15,279
Speaker 1: I just my heart was just raising. I just don't

1219
01:18:16,159 --> 01:18:23,520
is that like I said, the tracks? No, now that

1220
01:18:23,720 --> 01:18:26,399
right there, Doug, right that right there. I don't know

1221
01:18:26,520 --> 01:18:31,000
what these are either. His face slopes down like a camele,

1222
01:18:31,199 --> 01:18:33,239
like in the front like weird. And he's got these

1223
01:18:33,279 --> 01:18:35,760
two little ears and a point a little head. But

1224
01:18:35,920 --> 01:18:39,000
the one behind him when they went by me, it

1225
01:18:39,199 --> 01:18:43,479
didn't even look at me. It stayed its focus on

1226
01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:45,319
the back of that one that was in front of it,

1227
01:18:46,399 --> 01:18:48,039
and it just said, like looking at me as it

1228
01:18:48,119 --> 01:18:49,760
went by, is like, you know, okay, if you're not

1229
01:18:49,800 --> 01:18:52,319
gonna do not anything, I'm not gonna do anything. And

1230
01:18:52,399 --> 01:18:53,920
I was in the wintertime right there. I was in

1231
01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:57,359
a little dugout with a little flip phone. There he comes.

1232
01:18:58,119 --> 01:19:00,439
They come right up that trail, but he's just staring.

1233
01:19:00,560 --> 01:19:02,439
He's looking at the front. One just would not take

1234
01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:05,439
his eye off of me. But the one behind it,

1235
01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:08,479
he didn't care if I was there or nothing. He

1236
01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:09,680
just kept walking.

1237
01:19:10,279 --> 01:19:14,079
Speaker 5: How big are those two black blobs? How bigger?

1238
01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:17,760
Speaker 1: Like about about eight and a half eight and a

1239
01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:24,600
half feet tall. Yeah, and then I got this one

1240
01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:28,279
here and there there's the howler. There's that thing right there.

1241
01:19:28,319 --> 01:19:31,399
You can see his nose, his mouth, his deep eye

1242
01:19:31,439 --> 01:19:33,560
sockets that you can see the circle pits of his

1243
01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:37,600
nose on the back of how big his head is.

1244
01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:39,920
His hair you don't see his shoulders. His hair just

1245
01:19:39,960 --> 01:19:41,880
went right over his shoulders, just like a like a

1246
01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:46,319
moth would hang over. It's like a but like I said,

1247
01:19:46,359 --> 01:19:48,720
the weirdest. Like I said, I've never seen anything like

1248
01:19:48,840 --> 01:19:55,520
him and his hair, fur hair, whatever you call it.

1249
01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:58,920
He had a dark clay face and by these ears

1250
01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:00,960
on the side. But he had the dark clay face

1251
01:20:01,079 --> 01:20:05,399
and the but his his hair or fur whatever, it

1252
01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:09,199
was magnificent. I've never seen anything like that on any

1253
01:20:09,479 --> 01:20:11,760
kind of a critter in my life. And I've been

1254
01:20:11,800 --> 01:20:13,760
on three continents on his blue marble, and I've never

1255
01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:17,520
seen anything like that, never seen you know, it looked

1256
01:20:17,560 --> 01:20:20,560
like fur hair. I don't, I don't know. But it

1257
01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:24,960
had all the collars of the fall leaves of the forest,

1258
01:20:25,239 --> 01:20:29,880
even the dead stuff, the dead sticks, everything. He blended perfectly.

1259
01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:33,039
When the clouds went over the sun, he went right

1260
01:20:33,239 --> 01:20:36,000
into it like a black and white movie. When the

1261
01:20:36,119 --> 01:20:38,920
sun comes parking out he started lighting up like a

1262
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:42,199
light bulb of all these collars. It was just unbelievable.

1263
01:20:42,399 --> 01:20:47,239
I've never you know how many are out there? Someone

1264
01:20:47,319 --> 01:20:50,720
gave birth to that, So it's.

1265
01:20:52,119 --> 01:20:56,880
Speaker 5: I yeah, I mean still pictures are kind of worthless,

1266
01:20:57,000 --> 01:21:00,359
you know what I mean? You know, yeah, they don't

1267
01:21:00,439 --> 01:21:06,000
They doesn't have an info m So I don't know

1268
01:21:06,039 --> 01:21:08,000
if there's anything else that you want to have, Jeff

1269
01:21:08,119 --> 01:21:14,520
put up. I think there was a footprint cast. You've

1270
01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:17,640
done some research with dog Man too, haven't you.

1271
01:21:18,920 --> 01:21:21,680
Speaker 1: Well I didn't want to. It just landed on my lap.

1272
01:21:24,079 --> 01:21:26,000
And I don't know what this thing is. I poured

1273
01:21:26,079 --> 01:21:29,239
his track. Some people say maybe the dog Man. Some

1274
01:21:29,359 --> 01:21:33,159
people say it's the lizard Man. Some people I don't

1275
01:21:33,279 --> 01:21:33,720
know why.

1276
01:21:33,880 --> 01:21:36,439
Speaker 5: I don't know. It is pretty clear, it is very

1277
01:21:36,520 --> 01:21:38,840
clear track. I just it's weird.

1278
01:21:40,279 --> 01:21:42,319
Speaker 1: But what has claws at the end of the human

1279
01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:44,119
the end of the human foot?

1280
01:21:45,239 --> 01:21:46,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's.

1281
01:21:49,880 --> 01:21:52,800
Speaker 1: Bears. Have the pads there before the clothes, you know,

1282
01:21:52,840 --> 01:21:58,640
in the paths. But this and don't And like I said,

1283
01:21:58,640 --> 01:22:01,920
I don't know what what what track is?

1284
01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:02,039
Speaker 5: That?

1285
01:22:02,359 --> 01:22:07,039
Speaker 1: Uh said, it's unbelievable. That's a three toe looks like

1286
01:22:07,159 --> 01:22:10,640
it's broken or something. Uh well, I bought it. Uh,

1287
01:22:12,159 --> 01:22:14,079
I don't know. And that's what I was hoping that

1288
01:22:14,239 --> 01:22:17,279
on your show, that people would see this the yeah,

1289
01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:19,680
maybe maybe identify it.

1290
01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:24,239
Speaker 5: Uh yeah aave ebany if you guys have any ideas,

1291
01:22:24,399 --> 01:22:26,079
you can put it in the con don't put it

1292
01:22:26,159 --> 01:22:28,720
in chat, but put it in the comments, or put

1293
01:22:28,760 --> 01:22:31,079
it in both. Actually put it in the chat and

1294
01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:35,600
in the actual comments the show comments.

1295
01:22:36,680 --> 01:22:40,359
Speaker 1: And there if you look closely that house, that's human

1296
01:22:40,439 --> 01:22:44,720
foot with six claws and it's walking. It's by Peter

1297
01:22:44,840 --> 01:22:46,560
or you see other two tracks beside of it, and

1298
01:22:46,680 --> 01:22:47,159
that's walking.

1299
01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:51,399
Speaker 5: Well, the tracks in line and this one it looks

1300
01:22:51,479 --> 01:22:52,960
like I can see the second one.

1301
01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:56,760
Speaker 1: It looks in line one right in front of the

1302
01:22:56,840 --> 01:22:57,199
other one.

1303
01:22:57,359 --> 01:23:01,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's also pretty weird. They're Richard, I know.

1304
01:23:02,159 --> 01:23:05,079
Speaker 1: It's like, well weird Ohio and Hawking County.

1305
01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:09,640
Speaker 5: Although you know, you know, it's just it's so hard

1306
01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:14,159
to know. Is that a double step air track? Possibly?

1307
01:23:15,399 --> 01:23:19,319
But I you know, I'm not that good identifying tracks.

1308
01:23:21,159 --> 01:23:26,119
You know. It's like, yeah, this is odd, Jeff.

1309
01:23:26,439 --> 01:23:28,119
Speaker 8: What I have no idea what that is.

1310
01:23:29,079 --> 01:23:31,880
Speaker 5: It looks like it's got some talents that I wouldn't want.

1311
01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:34,960
I wouldn't want to tangle with.

1312
01:23:39,239 --> 01:23:43,159
Speaker 1: Believe it or not. It has a uh like the

1313
01:23:43,920 --> 01:23:46,960
human foot part of it on the bottom, but we

1314
01:23:47,039 --> 01:23:49,760
couldn't get it because it's stepped on a rock and

1315
01:23:49,800 --> 01:23:52,359
they put the claws into the mouth. So as a

1316
01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:57,560
it's that's another one that's a cryptode's that we poured

1317
01:23:57,640 --> 01:23:58,560
that was down in the pit.

1318
01:23:59,279 --> 01:24:02,439
Speaker 5: Now those it's looked to me about what three inches.

1319
01:24:02,680 --> 01:24:07,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, about three four inches long? Yo, Yeah, I don't

1320
01:24:09,159 --> 01:24:12,279
And we looked up every type of critter type of

1321
01:24:13,800 --> 01:24:16,000
the only thing that comes up with like a like

1322
01:24:16,119 --> 01:24:19,159
Haynes said, like a veloci raptors front floor or something.

1323
01:24:19,199 --> 01:24:25,239
I never say anything like it. Uh, but these things here.

1324
01:24:25,800 --> 01:24:28,199
One was heading toward the pit area and the other

1325
01:24:28,279 --> 01:24:30,520
one was heading away from that pit area.

1326
01:24:31,199 --> 01:24:33,920
Speaker 5: So what kind of pit is it? Is it a

1327
01:24:34,159 --> 01:24:34,840
mining pit?

1328
01:24:35,119 --> 01:24:35,279
Speaker 4: Is it?

1329
01:24:35,680 --> 01:24:40,279
Speaker 1: It's a uh, it's a uh it goes back in history.

1330
01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:43,600
Uh really, I mean they wrote, you know, is there

1331
01:24:43,720 --> 01:24:47,720
water in the pit? Yeah? Fresh spring water comes r.

1332
01:24:49,399 --> 01:24:51,119
Speaker 5: And so you think it could be a source of

1333
01:24:51,279 --> 01:24:52,000
drinking water?

1334
01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:55,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, And they fished down there too. That's why I've

1335
01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:58,640
seen those two logs together with the whole circle and

1336
01:24:59,279 --> 01:25:04,920
uh yeah they've but now it's a lot. Uh but

1337
01:25:05,119 --> 01:25:12,399
now it's become thanks to the phone. And some people

1338
01:25:12,520 --> 01:25:15,399
got around and they start taking picture of the place,

1339
01:25:15,399 --> 01:25:17,399
and every says, hey, come and look at this special pace,

1340
01:25:17,479 --> 01:25:21,479
like say, hey, let's not okay. Uh, let's a that's

1341
01:25:21,520 --> 01:25:25,800
a special place because nobody it's not commercialized. You know,

1342
01:25:26,439 --> 01:25:29,720
you can still go there and get tracks of hopefully

1343
01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:35,600
a bigfoot. Uh and uh and uh these cryptid tracks.

1344
01:25:36,520 --> 01:25:39,319
But you know, just like places. Let you know, uh,

1345
01:25:40,119 --> 01:25:42,319
well you've heard like all the rest of them, it's

1346
01:25:42,359 --> 01:25:45,399
whole fork, a lot of them. They're heavily, heavily heavily commercialized.

1347
01:25:46,439 --> 01:25:48,479
You can tell how many big foot groups are in there.

1348
01:25:49,520 --> 01:25:53,000
And uh plus you got people on horseback, you got people.

1349
01:25:53,159 --> 01:25:56,119
There's mushroomors, birders, gin singers, you got them all. And

1350
01:25:56,359 --> 01:25:59,079
uh no, you got to try to I try to

1351
01:25:59,159 --> 01:26:03,479
find the air is still that are left pristine, where

1352
01:26:04,039 --> 01:26:09,479
people aren't agitating it to where I tell my team,

1353
01:26:09,520 --> 01:26:12,399
I said, if you want to get him, get you

1354
01:26:12,640 --> 01:26:16,239
want to capture the historical research evidence we're going to

1355
01:26:16,319 --> 01:26:19,359
have to capturing when we catch him in his element

1356
01:26:19,399 --> 01:26:22,199
where he makes noise, because that's where we do that.

1357
01:26:22,279 --> 01:26:24,439
That's why I do the gilly. And we go out

1358
01:26:24,439 --> 01:26:26,560
there into gilly during earliest in the morning and you

1359
01:26:26,640 --> 01:26:29,720
stay out there all day, all night. Try to say

1360
01:26:29,760 --> 01:26:32,079
there all day the next day and all night because

1361
01:26:32,119 --> 01:26:34,000
you want the birds, you want the critters and everything

1362
01:26:34,079 --> 01:26:37,920
all around you. And then when when they sense this

1363
01:26:38,039 --> 01:26:41,319
someone and then when I've noticed on the Bigfoot, when

1364
01:26:41,359 --> 01:26:44,119
they noticed anything, they go into a stealth mode and

1365
01:26:44,199 --> 01:26:46,760
you're not going to hear them. Regardless of he's four

1366
01:26:46,840 --> 01:26:50,600
hundred pounds to twelve hundred pounds, you're not going to

1367
01:26:50,680 --> 01:26:53,159
hear him. And that's why that's why I got a team,

1368
01:26:53,640 --> 01:26:55,640
because I don't need you for your ears. I need

1369
01:26:55,680 --> 01:26:57,800
you for your eyes because you're not going to hear

1370
01:26:57,840 --> 01:27:03,720
these things come upon you. Really, no, you know, That's

1371
01:27:03,760 --> 01:27:04,560
what I tell my gods.

1372
01:27:05,600 --> 01:27:09,279
Speaker 5: Have you had have you had any incidents where you've

1373
01:27:09,399 --> 01:27:15,560
been like in a structure, cabin or you know, some

1374
01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:20,520
barn and you've actually had these things come up to

1375
01:27:20,680 --> 01:27:23,039
the cabin and maybe banging the walls or anything.

1376
01:27:24,640 --> 01:27:28,000
Speaker 11: Uh, let me say something here, dog, if I got

1377
01:27:28,119 --> 01:27:36,039
to hear clothes funny you ask uh uh, yeah, that referring.

1378
01:27:35,680 --> 01:27:42,000
Speaker 1: To that dog man. Questions you have or yeah, if

1379
01:27:42,039 --> 01:27:52,680
you can see this twenty eighteen, yep, this is I'm

1380
01:27:52,720 --> 01:27:55,399
gonna show you on this account. Here, this is how

1381
01:27:55,479 --> 01:27:57,760
many times or this is when it the dog man

1382
01:27:57,880 --> 01:28:01,239
showed up at our cabin when I was doing writing

1383
01:28:01,319 --> 01:28:08,680
music for Atlantic Records. I've documented. This is January twenty eighteen.

1384
01:28:10,199 --> 01:28:15,000
You can see it. Just to start, this is how

1385
01:28:15,159 --> 01:28:21,000
many days he mess with me in January if you

1386
01:28:21,039 --> 01:28:26,359
can see it. And then there's how many days he

1387
01:28:26,479 --> 01:28:31,279
messed they mess with me in February, I've talk every

1388
01:28:31,359 --> 01:28:32,920
day that they whatever they've done.

1389
01:28:33,640 --> 01:28:34,119
Speaker 4: And then.

1390
01:28:36,560 --> 01:28:40,039
Speaker 1: March how many days they messed meat? Where they came

1391
01:28:40,119 --> 01:28:45,760
back on March. I want to see April, okay with April?

1392
01:28:46,439 --> 01:28:55,159
Well nothing so like I said, yeah, I've had I've

1393
01:28:55,199 --> 01:28:58,760
had this thing peel on our cabin all round it.

1394
01:28:59,199 --> 01:29:02,920
It's sly both of our trees, one up by our

1395
01:29:03,000 --> 01:29:06,399
steps going to the front door and one at the

1396
01:29:06,479 --> 01:29:12,560
end of our driveway. And and I got I caught him.

1397
01:29:14,680 --> 01:29:17,319
Out Of all these days that you see in three months,

1398
01:29:17,920 --> 01:29:23,800
I've only captured him three times on video. Under the

1399
01:29:24,279 --> 01:29:26,520
other two you o shaturs. You can see this thing

1400
01:29:26,600 --> 01:29:32,079
coming up. But the last one, uh is you can

1401
01:29:32,159 --> 01:29:34,600
see him. He's coming up to our front door of

1402
01:29:34,640 --> 01:29:38,359
our cabin. He's standing on the ground, but he casts

1403
01:29:38,520 --> 01:29:41,319
his shadow on the ground and you can see it.

1404
01:29:41,359 --> 01:29:43,520
When he turns sideways, you can see his tail go

1405
01:29:43,640 --> 01:29:46,600
up and down. You can see his hawk legs. And

1406
01:29:46,720 --> 01:29:51,159
then just when he starts to walk away, he peeks

1407
01:29:51,239 --> 01:29:55,079
his head around the corner up up there where our

1408
01:29:55,119 --> 01:29:59,359
front door's at, looks right at the camera, looks right

1409
01:29:59,439 --> 01:30:03,720
at it. And I never caught him since after after that,

1410
01:30:04,000 --> 01:30:07,199
and I haven't you know, he hadn't come back after that.

1411
01:30:07,439 --> 01:30:12,159
So well, like I said, I've I've did a lot

1412
01:30:12,199 --> 01:30:15,039
of that thing. Really, it's like they was working in

1413
01:30:15,159 --> 01:30:18,560
shifts keeping you up. Sometimes. You know, you would hear growling,

1414
01:30:18,640 --> 01:30:21,359
deep growling and picking up the windows and then boom,

1415
01:30:21,399 --> 01:30:24,000
you'd feel the house, You feel the cabin shake because

1416
01:30:24,119 --> 01:30:26,159
it just jumped up on the roof and now it

1417
01:30:26,680 --> 01:30:31,439
in four steps and like thirty five feet from where

1418
01:30:31,479 --> 01:30:33,520
he jumped up onto the roof, and now he's standing

1419
01:30:33,560 --> 01:30:36,079
over our front door, up onto the roof. But you

1420
01:30:36,159 --> 01:30:39,119
don't hear him jump off. So you can't go outside

1421
01:30:39,159 --> 01:30:41,600
to get firewood. You just hoping the electric came off

1422
01:30:41,680 --> 01:30:42,840
too in the wintertime out there.

1423
01:30:43,439 --> 01:30:47,399
Speaker 5: All right, back, Richard, you got to back up. Okay,

1424
01:30:47,520 --> 01:30:51,199
you're hearing something on the roof. Yes, you can't just

1425
01:30:51,399 --> 01:30:55,399
you can't just say that crap casually. You need to

1426
01:30:56,000 --> 01:31:01,319
get into some details so you hear this. Okay. First off,

1427
01:31:02,119 --> 01:31:04,479
if you're in a cabin and something leaps up on

1428
01:31:04,560 --> 01:31:06,479
the roof, that's going to freak out.

1429
01:31:07,000 --> 01:31:09,520
Speaker 1: Oh I did, because I, like I said, I was

1430
01:31:09,560 --> 01:31:12,000
writing music for Atlantic at the time at the time,

1431
01:31:12,479 --> 01:31:15,760
and I had my earphones on and I felt I'm

1432
01:31:15,760 --> 01:31:17,720
sitting there doing my thing and I was saying whoop.

1433
01:31:17,760 --> 01:31:20,920
I felt my body balance. I'm went, whoa, what the

1434
01:31:20,960 --> 01:31:24,720
hell was that? A tree break off and hit the roof.

1435
01:31:25,359 --> 01:31:27,000
I took my earphones off and I get out and

1436
01:31:27,039 --> 01:31:30,239
I walk out to the sun room onto our deck

1437
01:31:30,880 --> 01:31:33,760
and I'm looking around. I don't see anything. I'm like,

1438
01:31:33,800 --> 01:31:34,479
what in the fart?

1439
01:31:34,640 --> 01:31:37,680
Speaker 5: You know what? You know?

1440
01:31:37,720 --> 01:31:39,399
Speaker 1: I'm looking around, I'm like, what the hell is that?

1441
01:31:39,560 --> 01:31:42,119
I don't see any trees down to my house. And

1442
01:31:42,119 --> 01:31:45,039
I'm like, well, what maybe something jumped in, a coon

1443
01:31:45,239 --> 01:31:48,039
or something. I don't know. So I went back in.

1444
01:31:49,159 --> 01:31:52,319
I got back on my thing and doing this. And

1445
01:31:52,560 --> 01:31:56,920
then as I'm as I'm trying to write write a

1446
01:31:56,960 --> 01:31:58,680
couple of days, and all of a sudden, I hear

1447
01:31:58,840 --> 01:32:03,319
this like a sound. I'm like, wow, whoa, I gotta

1448
01:32:03,359 --> 01:32:07,119
know that one. I'm really freaking out now, Oh, like,

1449
01:32:07,199 --> 01:32:12,000
what the what is that noise? There's some big, big roar,

1450
01:32:12,239 --> 01:32:15,079
growl whatever. I heard it right through my earphones, and

1451
01:32:15,479 --> 01:32:18,560
I shut the system down. I turned all the lights off,

1452
01:32:19,399 --> 01:32:22,159
and I'm looking to I'm going to the curtain looking

1453
01:32:22,199 --> 01:32:24,359
out the window. I'm like, what is out there?

1454
01:32:24,479 --> 01:32:24,640
Speaker 5: You know?

1455
01:32:24,840 --> 01:32:27,800
Speaker 1: And uh, my heart's just a raisin almost where you

1456
01:32:27,880 --> 01:32:31,399
get that, you know that the almost a sick feeling

1457
01:32:31,439 --> 01:32:33,760
and you're like, whoa, you know, because something big is

1458
01:32:33,800 --> 01:32:36,279
outside and it's not friendly.

1459
01:32:36,880 --> 01:32:41,560
Speaker 5: And uh it was night? Was this, said night? Richard? Yes,

1460
01:32:42,239 --> 01:32:44,600
like la la, I mean what time?

1461
01:32:45,119 --> 01:32:48,960
Speaker 1: Yes? It usually I slept mostly during sometime parts of

1462
01:32:49,039 --> 01:32:51,359
the day and wrote at night where it was just

1463
01:32:51,640 --> 01:32:57,479
peaceful quiet, And it's like usually anywhere from eleven o'clock

1464
01:32:58,840 --> 01:33:02,279
to five in the morning, uh, at the richest times,

1465
01:33:02,439 --> 01:33:06,760
or from one to one to four. That seemed like

1466
01:33:06,960 --> 01:33:10,199
with them and uh or whatever they were, they Yeah,

1467
01:33:10,560 --> 01:33:12,199
I just I was just freaking out.

1468
01:33:13,279 --> 01:33:15,359
Speaker 5: Okay, so you hear it walking on the roof. What

1469
01:33:15,479 --> 01:33:18,319
do you hear? How loud? What kind of roof you have?

1470
01:33:18,439 --> 01:33:19,720
What kind of roof do you have? Is it?

1471
01:33:21,680 --> 01:33:23,640
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you could hear it.

1472
01:33:24,039 --> 01:33:26,920
Speaker 5: It's it's on a world like a boom boom boom.

1473
01:33:27,680 --> 01:33:32,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're we're on a slight hill. And uh where

1474
01:33:32,600 --> 01:33:35,079
if you're standing behind you know, don't take don't take

1475
01:33:35,079 --> 01:33:36,960
a short ladder to get up on the roof. It

1476
01:33:37,239 --> 01:33:40,359
jumped you get here, just go boom and then you

1477
01:33:40,439 --> 01:33:44,800
hear a boom boom, boom boom, and it stopped and

1478
01:33:44,880 --> 01:33:48,479
it's right above where the roof fifth. The door is

1479
01:33:48,560 --> 01:33:52,800
right here and the roof. He's standing right here, just

1480
01:33:52,840 --> 01:33:54,560
before the peak. But you don't hear him jump off

1481
01:33:55,399 --> 01:33:58,560
and uh and then I but I didn't know what

1482
01:33:58,680 --> 01:34:01,119
it was at the time. At first. I'm like, something

1483
01:34:01,159 --> 01:34:03,359
big is out there and it's on the daggun roof

1484
01:34:04,000 --> 01:34:06,279
and I'm freaking out because there's no way I can

1485
01:34:06,359 --> 01:34:09,560
call out because there's no signal there. And if you

1486
01:34:09,640 --> 01:34:11,960
dig call for help, well, if you did get a

1487
01:34:12,000 --> 01:34:13,600
signal out, well it's going to be a long time

1488
01:34:13,640 --> 01:34:17,039
for somebody gets you, and uh so I'm just like

1489
01:34:17,119 --> 01:34:18,279
I said, I was just freaking out.

1490
01:34:18,800 --> 01:34:24,439
Speaker 5: And okay, how hard how high would you have to

1491
01:34:24,560 --> 01:34:25,760
jump to jump on your roof?

1492
01:34:26,640 --> 01:34:30,640
Speaker 1: Uh on the back side, Uh, just just your regular

1493
01:34:30,680 --> 01:34:32,880
standard eight foot jump from the ground.

1494
01:34:35,039 --> 01:34:39,560
Speaker 5: Jeff Marriot leap. I marrid foot leap. I do it

1495
01:34:39,640 --> 01:34:40,119
all the time.

1496
01:34:40,920 --> 01:34:45,800
Speaker 1: But out front it's like, uh fourteen foot fifteen foot

1497
01:34:45,840 --> 01:34:47,920
to get to the spouting, because like we're we're on

1498
01:34:48,039 --> 01:34:50,159
the hill, it's easier to get up on the back

1499
01:34:50,199 --> 01:34:51,960
side of the cabin that is going up to the front.

1500
01:34:52,000 --> 01:34:56,079
But uh, yes, slash it slashed. And I've got the

1501
01:34:56,159 --> 01:35:02,399
recordings of this thing roaring outside doing burst outside of

1502
01:35:02,479 --> 01:35:07,079
our cabin. Just you know, you hear that roar here,

1503
01:35:07,760 --> 01:35:10,439
you know, you're like, oh my god, oh you know,

1504
01:35:10,560 --> 01:35:12,800
you know, you know what is this? And then I

1505
01:35:13,319 --> 01:35:17,119
and I finally seen what it was that came out

1506
01:35:18,039 --> 01:35:22,479
when the uh there's the wintertime, the winds, the blonde

1507
01:35:22,920 --> 01:35:26,640
you know, kind of hard uh And I heard a

1508
01:35:26,840 --> 01:35:30,239
roar off to the right from our cabin, off our driveway.

1509
01:35:30,800 --> 01:35:33,039
I go to the living room, look out the window,

1510
01:35:33,920 --> 01:35:36,760
and off to the left that goes up a hill,

1511
01:35:37,399 --> 01:35:40,279
this thing come running out of the forest. Look, I mean,

1512
01:35:40,399 --> 01:35:45,399
just like lightning speeds like and stops right at the edge.

1513
01:35:45,560 --> 01:35:48,640
He's not looking toward me. It's looking up the hill

1514
01:35:48,680 --> 01:35:52,680
at something. And this thing was slender, not real big

1515
01:35:52,760 --> 01:35:55,319
and musk or anything, just talking like kind of tall

1516
01:35:55,359 --> 01:35:58,079
and lankety. But it had the dog head and it

1517
01:35:58,239 --> 01:36:00,800
was like dark I was trying to black. Was a

1518
01:36:01,119 --> 01:36:04,479
silverish type to it, and it didn't have a real

1519
01:36:04,560 --> 01:36:06,600
big long flubby tail. It had a flubby tail to it,

1520
01:36:06,680 --> 01:36:09,840
but it was looking up the road and then all

1521
01:36:09,840 --> 01:36:11,279
of a sudden, it shot off and I'm like, oh

1522
01:36:11,399 --> 01:36:16,760
my god, that's what's out there. Well, I was losing it.

1523
01:36:17,520 --> 01:36:20,199
I mean, I'm a bigfooter and I used to seeing

1524
01:36:20,279 --> 01:36:20,680
things like this.

1525
01:36:22,239 --> 01:36:25,800
Speaker 5: Oh no, Well what did you see, Richard?

1526
01:36:26,560 --> 01:36:29,439
Speaker 1: Well, like I said, I saw that, uh you know

1527
01:36:29,680 --> 01:36:32,119
that the dog man standing over there. They came up

1528
01:36:32,159 --> 01:36:34,800
the road or came up the hillside and stood right

1529
01:36:34,840 --> 01:36:35,760
there on the side of the road.

1530
01:36:36,680 --> 01:36:40,279
Speaker 5: What it looked like, I mean, can you describe it?

1531
01:36:40,880 --> 01:36:44,359
Speaker 1: Well, it was like, well, was not wasn't big muscular

1532
01:36:44,520 --> 01:36:46,960
like what people say. Oh, it was like a tall

1533
01:36:47,039 --> 01:36:50,520
and lankety uh uh. But it had the hawk legs.

1534
01:36:50,560 --> 01:36:52,199
You can see the hawk legs on it, and you

1535
01:36:52,319 --> 01:36:55,279
see the tail blowing uh in the wind, and uh

1536
01:36:55,720 --> 01:36:58,159
it was dark. You can see it's had the dark

1537
01:36:59,159 --> 01:37:03,159
arms on the dark head and uh didn't have a

1538
01:37:03,239 --> 01:37:04,840
real big long muscle one. It was just like a

1539
01:37:05,239 --> 01:37:08,279
like a regular dog's like maybe muzzle, but it had

1540
01:37:08,319 --> 01:37:11,039
the silver. He could see the silver on on his

1541
01:37:11,199 --> 01:37:13,479
belly and going down the interier on his right leg.

1542
01:37:13,560 --> 01:37:16,000
When it was standing there sideways looking looking up the road,

1543
01:37:16,720 --> 01:37:19,000
you can see it as a whitish silver and then

1544
01:37:19,039 --> 01:37:27,520
it's like dark boxies color. Yeah, it's just like I've

1545
01:37:27,560 --> 01:37:28,840
never seen it, you know. Like I said, it's just

1546
01:37:29,319 --> 01:37:32,079
freaked me totally out. Like I said, I didn't know

1547
01:37:32,079 --> 01:37:34,920
what I'm like, Oh my lord, you know, so that's

1548
01:37:34,920 --> 01:37:37,000
a good thing. I had, you know, a gun in

1549
01:37:37,079 --> 01:37:40,600
the cabin, but I haven't you know when these things

1550
01:37:41,239 --> 01:37:43,560
did that to our cabin. You know, I was thinking

1551
01:37:43,600 --> 01:37:45,800
at the time, I said, is this thing calling me out?

1552
01:37:46,840 --> 01:37:49,920
Or is he trying to say get out? I don't know,

1553
01:37:50,119 --> 01:37:53,239
but I never went outside to find out. Oh I know,

1554
01:37:53,439 --> 01:37:57,239
is I've captured him on film. I've captured the the

1555
01:37:57,399 --> 01:37:59,920
audio of this thing. And like I said, I'm not.

1556
01:38:01,319 --> 01:38:04,600
I don't you know, some gave birth to that, and

1557
01:38:04,720 --> 01:38:06,520
then I got another picture of it. Well, like I said,

1558
01:38:06,560 --> 01:38:08,840
you know, pictures, that was the word. But twenty you know,

1559
01:38:08,960 --> 01:38:12,119
thirty yards away from in the pit, there's I see

1560
01:38:12,119 --> 01:38:15,359
another one down there. But they Here's the thing. When

1561
01:38:15,399 --> 01:38:18,159
you see a coyote, it don't matter if you go

1562
01:38:18,239 --> 01:38:19,920
to the next state or in there's date. You see

1563
01:38:19,920 --> 01:38:22,640
a coyote, You see a coyote, you see a rabbit,

1564
01:38:22,680 --> 01:38:25,520
you see a rabbit. Well this, when you see it,

1565
01:38:26,560 --> 01:38:29,279
it's not the same thing you saw the first time.

1566
01:38:29,600 --> 01:38:32,760
This thing is totally different. And you think, Okay, something

1567
01:38:32,800 --> 01:38:35,439
gave birth to that, and some gave birth to that.

1568
01:38:35,560 --> 01:38:40,119
Some give birth, so there's they're not the same. So

1569
01:38:40,439 --> 01:38:47,319
somebody putting these things out there, you know, to watch

1570
01:38:47,359 --> 01:38:51,800
the public or what I don't know. Oh I know

1571
01:38:51,960 --> 01:38:54,119
is hey, I got the tracks of these things, and

1572
01:38:54,479 --> 01:38:55,960
you know, I got pictures and I got you know,

1573
01:38:56,159 --> 01:38:59,880
the video of this thing. But you know, I like,

1574
01:39:03,000 --> 01:39:07,159
you know, it's just I don't know, and I never

1575
01:39:07,279 --> 01:39:08,960
shared this stuff, you know, with the public.

1576
01:39:10,199 --> 01:39:14,359
Speaker 5: Jeff, do you have any more photos? People? Okay, so

1577
01:39:15,640 --> 01:39:19,680
all right, I just I'm gonna mention it only because

1578
01:39:20,079 --> 01:39:23,319
it hit me as maybe a good idea. Carl and

1579
01:39:23,439 --> 01:39:25,560
some other people were saying, if you ever fart in

1580
01:39:25,600 --> 01:39:28,600
the woods, stop and listen to see if a bigfoot

1581
01:39:28,680 --> 01:39:33,479
starts laughing. Yeah, and I thought that's kind of funny.

1582
01:39:33,560 --> 01:39:35,720
It would be almost funny if a guy brought a

1583
01:39:35,880 --> 01:39:43,920
fart call. Just see, it's a funny idea, but maybe

1584
01:39:43,920 --> 01:39:46,239
it would work. And just see if you get a

1585
01:39:46,279 --> 01:39:50,119
response like some kind of bigfoot laughter. Anyhow, we're really

1586
01:39:50,199 --> 01:39:54,239
going down in the gutter here. That's because I did

1587
01:39:54,319 --> 01:39:58,399
some news, Richard, and there was something in space they

1588
01:39:58,479 --> 01:40:05,239
called what gas bullets, gas bullets, the gas rockets, something

1589
01:40:05,319 --> 01:40:09,439
like that. Anyhow, so people in chatter doing fart, they're

1590
01:40:09,560 --> 01:40:14,640
telling forts stories. You're a guy volunteers, go ahead and

1591
01:40:14,760 --> 01:40:19,840
record some gas bullets. Gas bullets, okay, gas bullets anyhow.

1592
01:40:19,920 --> 01:40:25,079
But I think that bigfoot's do have a sense of humor,

1593
01:40:25,159 --> 01:40:28,920
because I've witnessed it. They do things to scare you,

1594
01:40:29,079 --> 01:40:32,520
to prank you. I mean, do you feel that too, Richard,

1595
01:40:32,520 --> 01:40:34,960
at times that they have a sense of humor.

1596
01:40:37,239 --> 01:40:42,880
Speaker 1: I've heard the I've heard the little kid laugh where

1597
01:40:43,000 --> 01:40:47,840
there's nobody out there. Uh, and uh, I've heard them,

1598
01:40:48,720 --> 01:40:53,079
uh make noise. I think they is bedding down or

1599
01:40:53,159 --> 01:40:54,760
something on the other side of the hill for me.

1600
01:40:54,840 --> 01:41:02,039
But they they would make these little sounds, uh like uh,

1601
01:41:02,239 --> 01:41:04,840
you know how like you'd throw your voice like you know,

1602
01:41:05,000 --> 01:41:06,560
you know you heard it from there, but it came

1603
01:41:06,600 --> 01:41:08,159
from over there, and you know there's nothing over there.

1604
01:41:08,199 --> 01:41:11,560
But then do you but you hear it from over here,

1605
01:41:12,119 --> 01:41:14,359
and then all of a sudden, it's it's weird, weird.

1606
01:41:14,479 --> 01:41:17,000
I can't explain it, but uh. They they would keep

1607
01:41:17,079 --> 01:41:19,359
making this noise until he got a little softer and

1608
01:41:19,359 --> 01:41:21,359
a little softer, and next saying, no, they're not making

1609
01:41:21,399 --> 01:41:24,119
a noise anymore. I don't know if they sleep, I

1610
01:41:24,159 --> 01:41:26,039
don't know, but that's what they were doing. Some weird

1611
01:41:26,640 --> 01:41:33,039
clicking sounds really weird. Like I said, not so.

1612
01:41:34,760 --> 01:41:41,560
Speaker 5: Nothing, keeper, But you tell these stories so matter of fact, Richard. Yeah,

1613
01:41:41,840 --> 01:41:43,279
sometimes I'm like whoa, whoa.

1614
01:41:43,760 --> 01:41:49,159
Speaker 1: Back up, Yeah, just what happens. The way it happens

1615
01:41:49,279 --> 01:41:54,319
is just like it's so it's just you know, it's

1616
01:41:55,039 --> 01:41:56,560
it just does something to you know, like you know,

1617
01:41:56,640 --> 01:42:00,840
when person gets you know, gold fever. I suppose you know,

1618
01:42:00,960 --> 01:42:03,119
like I said, you know what, you've lost good friends

1619
01:42:03,159 --> 01:42:05,479
in a marriage. You know, it's like nothing really much

1620
01:42:05,520 --> 01:42:08,560
stands in the way, you know, when you're when you're

1621
01:42:08,600 --> 01:42:09,760
like that, I suppose.

1622
01:42:09,880 --> 01:42:13,680
Speaker 5: How often do you have activity when you grow out? Oh?

1623
01:42:13,720 --> 01:42:15,720
On Ian? Do you ever? Do you ever have days

1624
01:42:15,760 --> 01:42:20,479
whether there's nothing or weeks where there's nothing, years years

1625
01:42:20,520 --> 01:42:21,279
whether there's nothing?

1626
01:42:21,479 --> 01:42:25,880
Speaker 1: Okay, yes, and I'm just waiting on you know, I

1627
01:42:25,960 --> 01:42:28,640
stayed prevalent to the forest that I grew up and uh,

1628
01:42:29,920 --> 01:42:32,680
and I noticed any of it will change, It'll come through,

1629
01:42:33,159 --> 01:42:35,079
you know that I see it. And then, like I

1630
01:42:35,199 --> 01:42:38,439
tell my guys, once you know that they're in the area,

1631
01:42:38,680 --> 01:42:41,359
you see that you're in the area, there's your chance

1632
01:42:41,399 --> 01:42:43,720
and probably only chance that you're going to be able

1633
01:42:43,760 --> 01:42:47,800
to get anything. Yeah, you know, is it well, once

1634
01:42:47,880 --> 01:42:49,680
it worth to you? You worth not going back to

1635
01:42:49,760 --> 01:42:51,920
work for the whole week and get fired or are

1636
01:42:51,920 --> 01:42:54,199
you going to stay the week out there and hopefully

1637
01:42:54,439 --> 01:42:58,199
you get a historical photograph of what they call folklore

1638
01:42:58,239 --> 01:42:58,800
and legends.

1639
01:42:59,479 --> 01:43:01,119
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's what I.

1640
01:43:02,680 --> 01:43:06,600
Speaker 1: Been doing all my life, not trying to prove to anybody.

1641
01:43:06,720 --> 01:43:11,039
Could just you know, I got to get a better look,

1642
01:43:11,199 --> 01:43:12,760
better sign of him or a better you know, I

1643
01:43:12,880 --> 01:43:14,800
just want to see more of him, do you know,

1644
01:43:14,880 --> 01:43:16,920
like I want to if I wish I could have

1645
01:43:17,039 --> 01:43:19,079
him right here like an examine and look at him,

1646
01:43:19,079 --> 01:43:21,960
you know, just to look at his facial features up

1647
01:43:22,039 --> 01:43:24,840
close and all that, you know what I mean. But

1648
01:43:24,960 --> 01:43:29,119
you're not going to get that. And because I tell

1649
01:43:29,359 --> 01:43:31,039
like that team, I said, what's the smartest man in

1650
01:43:31,079 --> 01:43:34,079
the world? A man A person who can stay away

1651
01:43:34,079 --> 01:43:37,560
from hidden from man, that's the smartest man in the world.

1652
01:43:38,159 --> 01:43:41,680
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, they're obviously, I'm sure you feel they're intelligent.

1653
01:43:43,479 --> 01:43:45,119
What do you think they are? Do you think they're

1654
01:43:45,319 --> 01:43:52,960
just flesh and blood really smart part human creatures or

1655
01:43:53,039 --> 01:43:54,760
do you think there's something else to him?

1656
01:43:55,520 --> 01:43:57,359
Speaker 1: Well, what I see is this flesh and blood. I

1657
01:43:57,399 --> 01:43:59,279
mean it looks there's like a bear. Looks like somebody

1658
01:43:59,279 --> 01:44:02,560
out there for is just like a bear does just

1659
01:44:04,479 --> 01:44:06,920
they you know, Like I told a couple of guys,

1660
01:44:06,960 --> 01:44:09,520
I said, if Bigfoot wants your attention, he'll get it.

1661
01:44:10,520 --> 01:44:12,800
That's the same occasions where I've had people with me

1662
01:44:12,880 --> 01:44:16,479
and you're just walking down the trails, just talking away

1663
01:44:16,520 --> 01:44:20,560
and log come flying over your head and criesh. You're

1664
01:44:20,720 --> 01:44:23,640
like WHOA. He's like, yeah, if you want your attention.

1665
01:44:23,760 --> 01:44:27,920
You'll get it, huh. But I tell my guys, please

1666
01:44:28,000 --> 01:44:31,359
don't do no whooping and don't do no tree knocking.

1667
01:44:32,399 --> 01:44:34,880
And they was like, well, well everybody, so I said,

1668
01:44:34,880 --> 01:44:37,279
that's the problem. I mean, anybody else can do what

1669
01:44:37,319 --> 01:44:40,039
they want, I said, but they got to understand, you know,

1670
01:44:40,119 --> 01:44:43,279
like that old saying, monkey see monkey do, Well there

1671
01:44:43,359 --> 01:44:46,840
comes a dumb human there is. I was sitting there going,

1672
01:44:46,960 --> 01:44:49,279
you know, communicating with my buddy across the hill, but

1673
01:44:49,399 --> 01:44:51,800
all of a sudden he's over there and boom boom boom,

1674
01:44:51,840 --> 01:44:54,680
knocking away and whoop. Well they don't people don't understand

1675
01:44:54,680 --> 01:45:00,279
that there's certain pitches and tones with those knocks and

1676
01:45:00,359 --> 01:45:04,920
those whoops, and when you start whooping automatically, well here's

1677
01:45:04,920 --> 01:45:07,359
the human he just enjoyed in there. Well we're gonna

1678
01:45:07,359 --> 01:45:09,199
have to get him out of here, you know.

1679
01:45:09,520 --> 01:45:09,640
Speaker 11: Uh.

1680
01:45:10,479 --> 01:45:12,199
Speaker 1: But that's what I tell my guys. Please don't whoop

1681
01:45:12,239 --> 01:45:13,800
in the tree knock. I said, don't be the monkey

1682
01:45:13,840 --> 01:45:16,800
see monkey doo. Because if you're in an area and

1683
01:45:16,920 --> 01:45:18,720
somebody's way on the interside of the mountain, you don't know,

1684
01:45:18,800 --> 01:45:20,720
and they're over there knocking and whooping, how do you

1685
01:45:20,800 --> 01:45:23,359
know it's a bigfoot knock, so I tell him please

1686
01:45:23,399 --> 01:45:26,279
do not knock and whoop. You know, it's like we

1687
01:45:26,359 --> 01:45:27,960
want And we noticed that we went the Salt Fork

1688
01:45:28,000 --> 01:45:30,079
at Tomas, like you heard them, people were tree knocking

1689
01:45:30,119 --> 01:45:33,119
all over the my like lord. So I just got

1690
01:45:33,159 --> 01:45:34,520
in the car to talk and said, come on, guds,

1691
01:45:34,560 --> 01:45:37,520
let's go. I said, this is ridiculous, I got you know,

1692
01:45:39,199 --> 01:45:41,600
but people, if that's what they want to do, that's fine.

1693
01:45:41,600 --> 01:45:44,279
They can do whatever they want. I don't care. But yeah,

1694
01:45:45,039 --> 01:45:47,600
my pictures of my research and my evidence that I've

1695
01:45:47,720 --> 01:45:51,600
gotten in the last fifty years, I think that helped.

1696
01:45:51,640 --> 01:45:54,560
By not doing all that. And because they don't really

1697
01:45:54,680 --> 01:45:57,239
like change, or they don't really like anything. They don't

1698
01:45:57,279 --> 01:46:01,239
like noises and lights and different smells that come in

1699
01:46:01,319 --> 01:46:04,279
you know what I mean, they get agitated about that.

1700
01:46:04,880 --> 01:46:09,960
Speaker 5: Have you ever experienced the the stink the future scene

1701
01:46:10,279 --> 01:46:13,640
type smell that they seem to put off on a

1702
01:46:14,279 --> 01:46:14,960
on occasion.

1703
01:46:15,800 --> 01:46:20,039
Speaker 1: I have never smelled as funny as it seems. I mean,

1704
01:46:21,520 --> 01:46:25,960
I have never letten a uh the odor that they

1705
01:46:26,039 --> 01:46:27,640
talk about. Uh maybe I.

1706
01:46:27,680 --> 01:46:29,960
Speaker 5: Think it's I think it's something they do. Yeah, I

1707
01:46:30,039 --> 01:46:33,560
don't think that they I think they're clean. I don't

1708
01:46:33,560 --> 01:46:36,079
think they smell like that all the time. I think

1709
01:46:36,119 --> 01:46:38,800
that they can do it, though, because I have on

1710
01:46:39,319 --> 01:46:43,039
three occasions now actually four if I count going up

1711
01:46:43,079 --> 01:46:49,720
to Randy's. Uh, we've tried to even trigger the stink

1712
01:46:50,239 --> 01:46:53,720
to get them to do it, and we've we've had

1713
01:46:53,800 --> 01:46:59,359
some strange experiences with the smell. But it's horrible. Richard

1714
01:46:59,600 --> 01:47:03,199
smells like rotten flesh or a dead body. But it's

1715
01:47:03,319 --> 01:47:06,279
not in the forest. It leaves them. You know, you

1716
01:47:06,439 --> 01:47:09,479
get hit with it and you'll be gagging and then

1717
01:47:09,560 --> 01:47:10,119
it's gone.

1718
01:47:10,880 --> 01:47:11,239
Speaker 1: Mhmm.

1719
01:47:13,640 --> 01:47:17,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm surprised. But maybe you don't piss them off.

1720
01:47:17,560 --> 01:47:21,880
Maybe they're not agitated when you when they come across you.

1721
01:47:24,560 --> 01:47:26,600
Speaker 1: You know, Like I said, I think I try to

1722
01:47:26,640 --> 01:47:29,399
tell people, uh, if you really, I mean, even though

1723
01:47:29,399 --> 01:47:31,239
I got a team that I like to have eyes

1724
01:47:31,279 --> 01:47:35,680
around me, you're I tell people, you're going to get

1725
01:47:35,680 --> 01:47:39,520
the best action if you want action or whatever you

1726
01:47:40,119 --> 01:47:41,680
want to try to capture, the best you can be.

1727
01:47:41,760 --> 01:47:45,640
Not there alone is being alone. I mean having a

1728
01:47:45,640 --> 01:47:49,119
person who is okay, But it seems like that they

1729
01:47:49,199 --> 01:47:52,159
prefer you to be alone when they want to interact

1730
01:47:52,279 --> 01:47:55,760
or let them be seen or whatever. Seems like they

1731
01:47:55,800 --> 01:47:58,640
want you to be alone. That is what I've noticed.

1732
01:47:59,399 --> 01:48:03,359
They come out when you're alone, not when you've got

1733
01:48:03,520 --> 01:48:06,560
a dog with you or another person or you know.

1734
01:48:06,760 --> 01:48:13,199
That's what I've noticed. But I go, I haven't had

1735
01:48:13,239 --> 01:48:14,640
any aggressions.

1736
01:48:15,479 --> 01:48:19,640
Speaker 5: Uh you had? Have you witness rocks beam thrown?

1737
01:48:20,439 --> 01:48:20,640
Speaker 1: Yes?

1738
01:48:21,000 --> 01:48:21,199
Speaker 5: Yes?

1739
01:48:23,079 --> 01:48:23,159
Speaker 11: Uh?

1740
01:48:23,319 --> 01:48:28,359
Speaker 1: When he was pouring a track, and that's a fellow

1741
01:48:28,479 --> 01:48:32,039
Eric Tipton. He came running up and he was going

1742
01:48:32,039 --> 01:48:33,439
to get back back to the man. I just gotta

1743
01:48:33,439 --> 01:48:36,600
grow up, And all of a sudden, a couple of

1744
01:48:36,720 --> 01:48:38,680
rocks come flying and said, okay, well let's get the track.

1745
01:48:38,760 --> 01:48:41,640
Let's go. Let's not hang around the area too much longer.

1746
01:48:41,920 --> 01:48:42,199
Speaker 8: Let's go.

1747
01:48:42,359 --> 01:48:43,079
Speaker 1: They don't want us here.

1748
01:48:43,760 --> 01:48:48,880
Speaker 5: So, Jeff, do you I want to ask him about

1749
01:48:48,920 --> 01:48:53,079
the home. Elizabeth mentioned it and I was gonna I

1750
01:48:53,159 --> 01:48:56,479
was thinking about it. Anyhow have you ever heard this sound?

1751
01:48:56,640 --> 01:48:59,760
We're going to play a sound for you in a relationship,

1752
01:49:00,039 --> 01:49:02,680
and you're all big footing. You may not have paid

1753
01:49:02,720 --> 01:49:06,479
any attention to it. Do you have an andy, Jeff,

1754
01:49:07,960 --> 01:49:12,119
like the Texas one? I think it's this one from Carl, Yeah,

1755
01:49:13,720 --> 01:49:20,600
from Carl Carl. So Eric says, my idea of fart

1756
01:49:20,680 --> 01:49:25,319
calling is a good one. Oh my god, it's just silly.

1757
01:49:25,479 --> 01:49:33,079
But you know, all right, listen to this Richard. M hm,

1758
01:49:38,880 --> 01:49:39,720
you're all played again.

1759
01:49:41,000 --> 01:49:45,399
Speaker 4: M hm.

1760
01:49:46,800 --> 01:49:50,520
Speaker 5: We'll play the snow Grove one, which is more more subdued.

1761
01:49:51,119 --> 01:49:53,239
Speaker 8: Sure, give me a minute here, I'll pull that up

1762
01:49:55,439 --> 01:49:55,960
to find it.

1763
01:49:57,359 --> 01:49:59,600
Speaker 5: So we've been you know, we've been talking about this. Well,

1764
01:49:59,600 --> 01:50:02,720
we've been. We've collected like eighty five recordings out from

1765
01:50:02,800 --> 01:50:08,000
people that do audio recording and with their bigfoot research.

1766
01:50:08,760 --> 01:50:12,680
Speaker 8: Okay, all right, I got it right here. Gave me

1767
01:50:12,760 --> 01:50:15,560
a second. This is a this is a loop.

1768
01:50:21,640 --> 01:50:22,439
Speaker 5: It's not playing.

1769
01:50:25,199 --> 01:50:26,920
Speaker 8: Oh, I mean the you know what I got, I

1770
01:50:27,000 --> 01:50:29,439
was in the wrong one. Hold on a second, try this.

1771
01:50:31,319 --> 01:50:31,720
Speaker 5: There we go.

1772
01:50:40,520 --> 01:50:42,560
Speaker 1: I got something close to that, but it's in a

1773
01:50:42,720 --> 01:50:49,960
long twenty seven second growl. Yeah, we'll last for twenty

1774
01:50:50,000 --> 01:50:55,640
about twenty seven seconds long. But that other thing was

1775
01:50:55,680 --> 01:51:01,760
talking about, Uh, I've heard the bigfoot do a like

1776
01:51:01,880 --> 01:51:08,199
a actually like a like a let his breath out,

1777
01:51:08,199 --> 01:51:11,600
you know what I mean, Like a exhale, but wrong,

1778
01:51:11,760 --> 01:51:15,600
like a like a ground burst that come down low

1779
01:51:15,680 --> 01:51:20,119
that hits you. That's about the only one that I've had.

1780
01:51:20,640 --> 01:51:23,079
Speaker 5: Well, if you have anything even near it or you

1781
01:51:23,239 --> 01:51:26,359
think would be interesting to get it to me. You

1782
01:51:26,439 --> 01:51:30,920
can just send it a messenger as an MP MP three.

1783
01:51:31,880 --> 01:51:34,840
You know, I'll give it to David Ellis, who I

1784
01:51:34,880 --> 01:51:38,319
think is in our audience. Unless you have it handy

1785
01:51:38,439 --> 01:51:40,560
and you could play it. I doubt you do. But

1786
01:51:41,680 --> 01:51:43,640
you probably don't have it handy, Richard.

1787
01:51:44,159 --> 01:51:46,800
Speaker 1: Oh well, if I do, it's probably not gonna do.

1788
01:51:47,640 --> 01:51:50,439
Speaker 5: That's okay, it's okay. I don't want to screw it up.

1789
01:51:53,000 --> 01:51:58,520
Speaker 1: That would probably be a wouldn't do any justice.

1790
01:51:58,560 --> 01:52:01,560
Speaker 5: Looks like off a tablet it Yeah, yeah, no, no,

1791
01:52:01,680 --> 01:52:03,159
if you could, if you could get it to be

1792
01:52:03,239 --> 01:52:06,800
a messenger or email, if it's not too big, that

1793
01:52:06,840 --> 01:52:08,439
would be very interesting.

1794
01:52:09,439 --> 01:52:13,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got there's another thing too that I don't

1795
01:52:13,840 --> 01:52:15,199
know if i'd send it to you or not. But

1796
01:52:16,479 --> 01:52:20,319
some people call it a genoskua or some people call

1797
01:52:20,359 --> 01:52:22,720
it whatever. I don't know what to call it. Uh,

1798
01:52:23,439 --> 01:52:27,840
it's another one who's caught on live film. But I

1799
01:52:28,000 --> 01:52:30,439
zoomed across the way and got it. It's you can

1800
01:52:30,520 --> 01:52:34,359
see the picture. There's a a white angle coming down

1801
01:52:34,439 --> 01:52:36,319
in the like the center of the picture, and then

1802
01:52:36,359 --> 01:52:40,119
you see a light up here. Well, this light, this

1803
01:52:40,359 --> 01:52:44,159
white line right here, that's the the guy's roof over

1804
01:52:44,520 --> 01:52:48,920
to his front door right here, and its head is

1805
01:52:48,960 --> 01:52:53,640
about this high over top of this roofline is this

1806
01:52:53,840 --> 01:52:58,840
high almost on the security light. I'll have to send

1807
01:52:58,880 --> 01:52:59,439
you that one.

1808
01:53:02,159 --> 01:53:07,600
Speaker 5: Interesting somebody, I think, Yeah, Josh was asking to wonder

1809
01:53:07,640 --> 01:53:10,000
what would make a big wood smell so bad? Okay,

1810
01:53:10,560 --> 01:53:18,239
So even gorillas produce a stink that they can produce

1811
01:53:18,600 --> 01:53:23,079
and kind of spray it out of their apricrin glands

1812
01:53:23,199 --> 01:53:26,920
under their armpits, and it's been described as burnt rubber

1813
01:53:27,119 --> 01:53:31,359
and rotten rotten meat and blah blah blah, and even

1814
01:53:31,439 --> 01:53:35,399
George Schaller has just you know, described the stink that

1815
01:53:35,520 --> 01:53:39,399
gorilla has put off, and so it seems to happen

1816
01:53:39,479 --> 01:53:42,800
when they're irritated. Now, we don't know where a big

1817
01:53:42,880 --> 01:53:46,640
foot would produce it. I call it future scene because

1818
01:53:46,680 --> 01:53:51,039
it smells like that future scene is a chemical made

1819
01:53:51,119 --> 01:53:58,760
by bacteria as it's eating flesh, like rotten spoiled flesh,

1820
01:53:59,399 --> 01:54:01,880
and so I call a subsquatch future scene. But we

1821
01:54:02,000 --> 01:54:04,520
don't know. They may make it in their armpits, it

1822
01:54:04,720 --> 01:54:09,840
may exude out of their pores. It you know, it's

1823
01:54:10,079 --> 01:54:15,720
apparently very hard to get off, and we actually collected

1824
01:54:15,880 --> 01:54:19,560
some of it at A long story, I don't want

1825
01:54:19,560 --> 01:54:22,279
to get into all the details, but we actually collected

1826
01:54:22,319 --> 01:54:27,600
it and it got lost on the sample like it's

1827
01:54:27,720 --> 01:54:33,840
just like really it was frozen and it's stunk to

1828
01:54:34,039 --> 01:54:37,680
I mean, it was horrible gagging. And we collected it

1829
01:54:37,840 --> 01:54:44,920
on plastic. Plastic observes odors really well, and any long

1830
01:54:45,000 --> 01:54:50,039
story short, it disappeared. I wanted to have it. I

1831
01:54:50,159 --> 01:54:53,520
wanted to have it analyzed because every smell is chemicals

1832
01:54:54,000 --> 01:54:57,319
in it, you know, and if you could put it

1833
01:54:57,399 --> 01:54:59,840
in a gas chromatograph and you could determine what are

1834
01:54:59,880 --> 01:55:02,880
the those chemicals could be quite interesting.

1835
01:55:04,479 --> 01:55:08,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've heard Doug that, uh, the how they get

1836
01:55:09,439 --> 01:55:12,079
to activate that odor for whatever this what I've heard

1837
01:55:12,159 --> 01:55:17,920
that the they uh they eat ah a lot of

1838
01:55:18,319 --> 01:55:25,039
uh clams, crayfish and stuff like that, uh to build

1839
01:55:25,880 --> 01:55:29,239
hm that up in their immune system to to secrete

1840
01:55:29,319 --> 01:55:32,119
that oil that steak. And I was going, really and

1841
01:55:32,199 --> 01:55:33,960
I said, yeah, now they tell me also that the

1842
01:55:34,960 --> 01:55:40,199
I go, they said, and also they two for mating,

1843
01:55:40,319 --> 01:55:43,560
they eat a lot of the fruits and uh, the

1844
01:55:43,640 --> 01:55:50,119
fruits and stuff. Uh that secrete this other enzyme for mating. Uh,

1845
01:55:53,079 --> 01:55:53,880
I know it's well.

1846
01:55:53,960 --> 01:55:59,119
Speaker 5: Somebody said they can project sasas Saga said, they can

1847
01:55:59,239 --> 01:56:04,840
produce good smells, which is really interesting. And yeah, that's

1848
01:56:04,920 --> 01:56:15,239
some interesting information that I'm gonna hang on to. Somebody's

1849
01:56:15,319 --> 01:56:21,359
asking about seabum collecting off flat rocks port railing. I

1850
01:56:21,640 --> 01:56:25,439
don't know. I don't know anything about Stacy doing that,

1851
01:56:26,760 --> 01:56:30,880
but I've been a proponent for collecting seabum. Have you

1852
01:56:30,960 --> 01:56:36,359
ever seen the handprint on a vehicle, any of your cars, windows,

1853
01:56:36,399 --> 01:56:41,079
at your cabin anywhere a handprint not on.

1854
01:56:41,159 --> 01:56:46,680
Speaker 1: Our cabin, but the the the two ladies that live

1855
01:56:47,119 --> 01:56:49,439
or not live, but they have a cabin that's up

1856
01:56:49,920 --> 01:56:54,520
higher up on the mountain up there, and they came

1857
01:56:54,600 --> 01:56:56,359
and told me that there was something around their place

1858
01:56:56,399 --> 01:56:58,880
at night. And you can see on the back of

1859
01:56:58,960 --> 01:57:03,000
their roofover built that was on the back. You can

1860
01:57:03,079 --> 01:57:07,279
see that there was the finger parts. You could see

1861
01:57:07,319 --> 01:57:09,479
the finger and the thumb. It was big. You can

1862
01:57:09,520 --> 01:57:12,119
see where he leaned put his hand there. But he

1863
01:57:12,279 --> 01:57:16,600
was looking over the top of their camper while they

1864
01:57:16,600 --> 01:57:19,600
were sitting there on their picnic table. He was watching

1865
01:57:19,640 --> 01:57:23,520
them behind their camp, behind their camper on the roof

1866
01:57:23,560 --> 01:57:23,960
over there.

1867
01:57:24,479 --> 01:57:27,920
Speaker 5: Interesting, And what color were those prints? You know, do

1868
01:57:28,000 --> 01:57:32,279
you remember what color were a kind of a whiteish

1869
01:57:32,479 --> 01:57:36,560
was it on a black surface or a darker Uh?

1870
01:57:36,760 --> 01:57:41,880
Speaker 1: Well, it was like a burgundy collared metal roof. You

1871
01:57:41,920 --> 01:57:46,640
can see where his fingers laid right on the top.

1872
01:57:46,800 --> 01:57:49,560
Is like his palm laid right there on the edge,

1873
01:57:49,560 --> 01:57:51,720
but his fingers was right there on top of the metal.

1874
01:57:52,359 --> 01:57:54,640
You can see it. We were standing on the hill

1875
01:57:54,760 --> 01:57:57,920
looking down, like I said, looking down, you can see it.

1876
01:57:57,960 --> 01:58:00,439
It's like, well, he put his hand right there. You

1877
01:58:00,479 --> 01:58:04,119
can see his hands, his fingers and like fingers like

1878
01:58:04,199 --> 01:58:07,560
that long, you know, like got wide in between each one,

1879
01:58:07,920 --> 01:58:09,239
just like you can say it. I was like, wow.

1880
01:58:11,520 --> 01:58:14,239
But they but the ladies up there, they said that

1881
01:58:14,680 --> 01:58:17,960
they would come around their camper every once in a while.

1882
01:58:18,079 --> 01:58:20,439
And I told him, I said, well, I think he's

1883
01:58:20,520 --> 01:58:23,319
just watching out for you ladies. They're protecting you. I

1884
01:58:23,479 --> 01:58:27,880
don't know, you know, they seem to. And then in

1885
01:58:28,000 --> 01:58:31,039
the morning after that, de went off of their plastic

1886
01:58:31,119 --> 01:58:32,560
on the side of the porch. You can see where

1887
01:58:32,560 --> 01:58:39,880
a big hand wipe the plastic on their porch. They

1888
01:58:39,920 --> 01:58:41,279
went around filling the plastic.

1889
01:58:41,560 --> 01:58:44,199
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think they're very tactile. I think they like

1890
01:58:44,359 --> 01:58:53,279
to touch smooth anything, smooth glass painted services, car bodies, windows.

1891
01:58:55,000 --> 01:58:57,680
And that's an idea for anybody too, is to get

1892
01:58:57,800 --> 01:59:02,880
some clear plexi glass ass or black or even a

1893
01:59:03,119 --> 01:59:05,399
you know, a color like blue, and put a square

1894
01:59:05,439 --> 01:59:08,399
of it out in your if you've got an area

1895
01:59:08,439 --> 01:59:11,960
where you're doing gifts or whatever, lay it there or

1896
01:59:12,000 --> 01:59:14,000
they might touch it and handle it and leave you

1897
01:59:14,119 --> 01:59:17,119
some nice semment, some handprints.

1898
01:59:17,880 --> 01:59:19,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. I tell people, if you want to leave a gift,

1899
01:59:20,880 --> 01:59:24,880
always tell them make something out of the forest, you know,

1900
01:59:25,000 --> 01:59:28,840
go get the go, get a little vine. Yeah, braid

1901
01:59:28,920 --> 01:59:32,960
it real quick, throw a couple little flower stems in,

1902
01:59:33,159 --> 01:59:35,600
or throw something a little bit it ben and loop

1903
01:59:35,640 --> 01:59:38,279
it in and just hang it there. Uh. They get

1904
01:59:38,319 --> 01:59:40,520
a kick all a lot. They always take it, and

1905
01:59:41,119 --> 01:59:44,159
they like the little shiny things. We had a little

1906
01:59:44,279 --> 01:59:46,920
wind chime. There's only about that tall, little novelty gift

1907
01:59:47,520 --> 01:59:51,800
and uh uh they took it off our tree and

1908
01:59:51,920 --> 01:59:57,560
then what was weird? Uh In the wintertime, you know,

1909
01:59:57,640 --> 02:00:00,560
there's nobody out there, but you'll hear that the wind time.

1910
02:00:00,600 --> 02:00:03,720
You'll hear over here to the right, over the hill

1911
02:00:04,239 --> 02:00:06,279
and then you'll hear it again off to the left,

1912
02:00:06,319 --> 02:00:08,039
way over there. He's like, you know, hey, I got

1913
02:00:08,119 --> 02:00:10,640
your little toy here, you know, listen to it. You know,

1914
02:00:10,760 --> 02:00:19,600
I got it, you know, you little kid? Laugh?

1915
02:00:22,640 --> 02:00:26,159
Speaker 5: Are you kind of cut out there in the last sentence, Richard,

1916
02:00:26,800 --> 02:00:27,600
can you repeat that?

1917
02:00:31,239 --> 02:00:33,520
Speaker 8: Yeah, we're kind of losing.

1918
02:00:35,079 --> 02:00:36,159
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're kind of losing.

1919
02:00:37,239 --> 02:00:49,479
Speaker 10: There we go, it's been it's been really good, Richard,

1920
02:00:49,560 --> 02:00:50,279
it's been good.

1921
02:00:50,880 --> 02:00:56,840
Speaker 5: We still we still want yeah, yeah, you're still we

1922
02:00:57,039 --> 02:00:59,920
hear you if you want. If if it's going your voice,

1923
02:01:01,039 --> 02:01:02,279
if it's going bad, just.

1924
02:01:06,359 --> 02:01:13,159
Speaker 1: Yea and I O get and you can hear it sometimes, you.

1925
02:01:13,239 --> 02:01:21,439
Speaker 5: Know, Uh, I very ready to that was that was bad?

1926
02:01:25,560 --> 02:01:26,880
We get the wheel of death?

1927
02:01:27,600 --> 02:01:27,840
Speaker 8: Yep.

1928
02:01:28,840 --> 02:01:31,479
Speaker 5: Yeah. I mean there's so many concepts of like why

1929
02:01:31,640 --> 02:01:35,720
they stink, and I've heard so many stories. One of

1930
02:01:35,760 --> 02:01:39,399
them that really sticks with me is when a guy

1931
02:01:40,439 --> 02:01:43,560
claims he was running around the backside of his house

1932
02:01:43,640 --> 02:01:46,560
in the dark and his kids were in the in

1933
02:01:46,720 --> 02:01:49,520
the back, and he went around the house to scare

1934
02:01:49,640 --> 02:01:53,239
his kids, ended up running face to face with a bigfoot,

1935
02:01:53,840 --> 02:01:58,359
ran into it and bounced off it, and he said

1936
02:01:59,239 --> 02:02:03,119
the smell on his body and his clothing. His clothes

1937
02:02:03,159 --> 02:02:06,800
had to be thrown away. He immediately got in the shower.

1938
02:02:06,960 --> 02:02:11,279
He could not get the stink off. It lasted like

1939
02:02:11,399 --> 02:02:15,079
a day or two after even after he showered really well,

1940
02:02:16,439 --> 02:02:19,560
and his clothes had to be burned. They were so bad.

1941
02:02:20,560 --> 02:02:22,800
And it's quite a story. And I heard it on

1942
02:02:25,399 --> 02:02:30,479
subsquatch chronicles and it's a story of a guy in

1943
02:02:30,600 --> 02:02:33,199
Florida and he ended up running into it and it's

1944
02:02:33,319 --> 02:02:37,119
just stunk. It stunk his body so bad. But he

1945
02:02:37,399 --> 02:02:43,279
smashed into the creature. So I don't know, you know,

1946
02:02:43,399 --> 02:02:46,199
I don't know what could make it. But other animals

1947
02:02:46,319 --> 02:02:52,159
produce stink without having theat Skunks, bears can produce. You know,

1948
02:02:52,279 --> 02:02:57,239
they all have glands, so glandular glands can make some

1949
02:02:57,479 --> 02:03:02,479
horrific smells. Nothing to do with their diet. There's nothing

1950
02:03:03,319 --> 02:03:05,960
has to do with their body chemistry. And what I

1951
02:03:06,119 --> 02:03:13,039
call is superpower, a supernatural power. Skunks have it. Fox

1952
02:03:13,239 --> 02:03:17,680
can stick of an area, so there's nothing to do

1953
02:03:17,760 --> 02:03:20,680
with their diet. Has to do with glands. And we

1954
02:03:20,880 --> 02:03:25,199
us humans, we have glands under our armpits that smell

1955
02:03:25,640 --> 02:03:30,560
when we get really mad like or a or afraid,

1956
02:03:30,880 --> 02:03:34,239
or we're about to fight, get in a fight, will

1957
02:03:34,359 --> 02:03:37,880
start smelling, and I think it's a survival thing. It's

1958
02:03:38,479 --> 02:03:42,840
it's a repellent, you know. I mean read you can

1959
02:03:42,920 --> 02:03:46,960
read up on why do humans stink? At times? So

1960
02:03:47,119 --> 02:03:50,760
there you go. That's all I know about it. Anyhow, Hi, Richard,

1961
02:03:51,039 --> 02:03:57,479
you're back. No, it's fine. You've been great. Richard, You've

1962
02:03:57,479 --> 02:03:59,000
been great all night. It's been awesome.

1963
02:04:00,439 --> 02:04:02,800
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. But I know, like I said, I

1964
02:04:02,880 --> 02:04:06,720
tell people that you know, regardless what what they hear

1965
02:04:07,359 --> 02:04:09,720
or if you don't believe it, I've set them on

1966
02:04:09,920 --> 02:04:12,760
a lot of my other times that I've talked out

1967
02:04:12,880 --> 02:04:17,479
that I tell the public if you want, if you

1968
02:04:17,600 --> 02:04:19,920
don't believe me, I said, you want to see, I'll

1969
02:04:19,960 --> 02:04:23,640
put you in these places where the dog man was standing,

1970
02:04:24,079 --> 02:04:26,880
where the Bigfoot was and all that, I will put

1971
02:04:26,920 --> 02:04:30,359
you right there. I don't I'm not like one of

1972
02:04:30,399 --> 02:04:31,680
the ones that says, oh, you can't go to my

1973
02:04:31,800 --> 02:04:35,439
research area over here. No, I will put you. I'm

1974
02:04:35,479 --> 02:04:36,960
not saying that he's going to be there. He's not

1975
02:04:37,039 --> 02:04:39,439
going to be there, but I'll put you right there

1976
02:04:39,560 --> 02:04:43,680
where the highest activity that that I've witnessed in the

1977
02:04:43,760 --> 02:04:47,359
Bigfoot and cryptid and uh, I have nothing to hide. Uh.

1978
02:04:48,399 --> 02:04:50,680
Like I said, I'm a researcher and this I'm not.

1979
02:04:50,960 --> 02:04:52,840
I'm not into it for the money. Never have. I

1980
02:04:52,880 --> 02:04:54,560
wish I had the money back that I spent in

1981
02:04:54,640 --> 02:04:58,720
this field of this hobby, thousands of dollars and cameras

1982
02:04:58,760 --> 02:05:02,640
and batteries and why you know, but I found out

1983
02:05:02,680 --> 02:05:04,560
the trail cam thing is just not working for me.

1984
02:05:05,199 --> 02:05:08,560
Uh see, the trail cams just lit up like a

1985
02:05:08,640 --> 02:05:11,920
candle if you look to it through a night vision.

1986
02:05:12,000 --> 02:05:15,079
That's the batteries has got that thing hot. And Dick's

1987
02:05:15,079 --> 02:05:17,399
hat band you can see it just lit up. And

1988
02:05:17,520 --> 02:05:20,399
I'm like, no, I just I'd like to capture everything

1989
02:05:20,439 --> 02:05:23,840
if I can on high eight or old school. Oh

1990
02:05:23,880 --> 02:05:26,319
that don't have the beam, don't carry out the don't

1991
02:05:26,399 --> 02:05:31,000
carry the heat. But that's what I try to do.

1992
02:05:31,119 --> 02:05:32,760
And then I tried.

1993
02:05:35,680 --> 02:05:40,359
Speaker 5: So flat Rockland made a joke this episode stinks. Very

1994
02:05:40,439 --> 02:05:47,640
appropriate comment, thank yous we're talking about since we're talking

1995
02:05:47,680 --> 02:05:54,279
about stink. Yes, he's he's he's witty. He's witty anyhow,

1996
02:05:55,560 --> 02:05:58,520
uh So, what what do you want to talk about

1997
02:05:58,640 --> 02:06:01,520
and what questions to be people have? What do you

1998
02:06:01,560 --> 02:06:03,439
want to tell what do you want to convey to people?

1999
02:06:04,319 --> 02:06:05,680
You got a whole audience here.

2000
02:06:07,000 --> 02:06:13,479
Speaker 1: Oh, I just don't. I just wish people would, uh,

2001
02:06:13,840 --> 02:06:19,319
the skeptics, uh got to see uh what they call

2002
02:06:20,239 --> 02:06:22,399
folk lore and legends out there. You know, I don't

2003
02:06:22,479 --> 02:06:27,800
understand when I got my booth at a big foot festival.

2004
02:06:28,399 --> 02:06:29,960
You know, when you got people going by and the

2005
02:06:30,079 --> 02:06:32,359
going ah, I don't believe in that's all joke. Well

2006
02:06:32,520 --> 02:06:36,079
why are you even here, buddy? You know this is

2007
02:06:36,159 --> 02:06:38,680
not a you know, a NAPA show. This is a

2008
02:06:38,720 --> 02:06:43,000
Bigfoot show here. You know you want tools to snap on,

2009
02:06:43,279 --> 02:06:45,479
getting your gun, google the bill and going up the road.

2010
02:06:46,119 --> 02:06:48,840
I just this is I'm not here to prove anything.

2011
02:06:49,279 --> 02:06:51,920
I'm here to just bring my research out and show

2012
02:06:51,960 --> 02:06:55,439
the public. Don't be scrutinized because this is what's in

2013
02:06:55,520 --> 02:06:59,199
your back door, whether you believe it or you don't. That.

2014
02:06:59,359 --> 02:07:02,479
I'm not trying to make people believe. It's just I

2015
02:07:02,680 --> 02:07:05,119
just wish that the person out there, that the skeptics,

2016
02:07:05,520 --> 02:07:08,520
that I want them to see this thing. I will

2017
02:07:08,520 --> 02:07:13,039
wish they'd see it. You know, then uh, you'll know

2018
02:07:13,159 --> 02:07:16,359
what we're what all the fuss is about. When uh,

2019
02:07:17,239 --> 02:07:19,680
when you do see one, because I've had people break

2020
02:07:19,840 --> 02:07:22,920
right in on a conversation right at a conference and

2021
02:07:23,039 --> 02:07:27,920
took the microphone and uh looked at the public and said,

2022
02:07:28,000 --> 02:07:32,039
I am awfully sorry. I laughed at you people for years,

2023
02:07:33,880 --> 02:07:36,359
and he said I he said, I've been a farmer

2024
02:07:36,479 --> 02:07:39,520
for fifty some years. He said, until the day I

2025
02:07:39,600 --> 02:07:41,680
saw one on my tracker go across my field. And

2026
02:07:41,760 --> 02:07:43,840
I want no buddy in a gilly suit, he said.

2027
02:07:44,399 --> 02:07:47,039
He said, so, he said, I apologize to everybody here

2028
02:07:47,560 --> 02:07:50,159
that I made fun of you people for years. He said,

2029
02:07:50,159 --> 02:07:51,720
I'm sorry, and thank you very much. He gave the

2030
02:07:51,760 --> 02:07:54,560
microphone back and got in the left. He said, what

2031
02:07:54,760 --> 02:07:58,239
is it going to take? You know, you know, you

2032
02:07:58,359 --> 02:08:01,720
know they got a body to go Scott one. Just

2033
02:08:01,760 --> 02:08:05,279
go ask them. You know they do they gott what

2034
02:08:05,399 --> 02:08:08,560
you think they do. Yeah, they got everything else. I'm

2035
02:08:08,600 --> 02:08:10,720
probably they didn't get old killed Nessie and put her

2036
02:08:10,760 --> 02:08:16,199
in a little pit stuffed it so well, like I said,

2037
02:08:18,359 --> 02:08:21,680
you know, they they say there ain't no rules or

2038
02:08:21,880 --> 02:08:23,680
laws out there, you know, blah blah blah, oh the

2039
02:08:23,720 --> 02:08:27,760
big but oh yeah, Well when people say, yeah it

2040
02:08:27,840 --> 02:08:29,680
takes a body to bring one, Okay, who's going to

2041
02:08:29,720 --> 02:08:32,439
bring the body in because it's states in the laws

2042
02:08:32,479 --> 02:08:35,520
that if you shoot anything by peedele you're going to prison.

2043
02:08:38,279 --> 02:08:41,319
I guess that includes the bigfoot. So if you shoot

2044
02:08:41,319 --> 02:08:42,800
a big pitt, you're gonna go to prison because it's

2045
02:08:42,840 --> 02:08:46,279
by pedele hominin. So why did you say that there's

2046
02:08:46,359 --> 02:08:48,880
not no laws against you know this? And why is

2047
02:08:48,920 --> 02:08:53,880
the forestry spending money on bigfoot signs? You see it

2048
02:08:53,920 --> 02:08:56,479
in le Bronce, you see it in Colorado, you see

2049
02:08:56,479 --> 02:09:01,600
it everywhere else. Bigfoot crossing. Well the states for that, well,

2050
02:09:01,680 --> 02:09:11,560
somebody believe in it anything. Hmmm, yeah, it's ridiculous, so

2051
02:09:11,680 --> 02:09:11,920
we can.

2052
02:09:12,560 --> 02:09:16,079
Speaker 5: So what is what is the probably the weirdest story

2053
02:09:16,159 --> 02:09:21,600
you've either ever heard or experienced concerning Bigfoot? What is

2054
02:09:21,640 --> 02:09:25,199
there something that jumps out, either a story you heard

2055
02:09:25,279 --> 02:09:32,520
from somebody you know or another another witness or yours.

2056
02:09:33,600 --> 02:09:36,439
Speaker 1: I really don't really don't get out that much, Doug,

2057
02:09:36,520 --> 02:09:39,600
or talk to a bunch of people, Like I said,

2058
02:09:39,640 --> 02:09:44,199
I'm a dinosaur and uh, but here later, I haven't

2059
02:09:44,199 --> 02:09:45,840
been able to get out in the field because my health.

2060
02:09:45,880 --> 02:09:49,760
I had a double hernie operation and then I had

2061
02:09:49,840 --> 02:09:53,800
some kind of a cryptid thing or whatever it was. Uh,

2062
02:09:54,359 --> 02:09:59,279
chase me up a tree. Ah. Then the branch broke.

2063
02:10:00,479 --> 02:10:03,439
I come tumbling out of that tree and I knocked

2064
02:10:03,439 --> 02:10:07,680
out three knock, knocked three teeth out. I cracked my

2065
02:10:07,760 --> 02:10:10,399
skull from here up to my nasal cavity.

2066
02:10:12,199 --> 02:10:12,880
Speaker 5: What happened?

2067
02:10:14,960 --> 02:10:17,199
Speaker 1: I got out of the truck because I wanted to

2068
02:10:17,279 --> 02:10:19,439
check this area out. I thought, okay, Well, I got

2069
02:10:19,479 --> 02:10:22,119
the headlights on, you know, aiming up the throat piece here,

2070
02:10:22,159 --> 02:10:24,840
and I thought, okay, was this There was activity here before,

2071
02:10:25,439 --> 02:10:27,319
so I think I'll just stop aaron check it out.

2072
02:10:27,399 --> 02:10:30,640
And I stopped and I got out. I got I

2073
02:10:30,680 --> 02:10:32,239
got away from the truck. I guess a little too

2074
02:10:32,279 --> 02:10:36,560
far and uh. And when I heard this thing roar,

2075
02:10:37,079 --> 02:10:40,520
the growl thing whatever, I'm like, oh crap, I'm not

2076
02:10:40,560 --> 02:10:42,720
gonna make it to the truck. I mean, to the

2077
02:10:42,720 --> 02:10:45,560
trucks right about forty yards away. I'm not gonna make it.

2078
02:10:45,640 --> 02:10:48,600
So I scampered up this tree. And soon as I

2079
02:10:48,680 --> 02:10:52,159
got about where I thought I was comfortable, this thing

2080
02:10:52,279 --> 02:10:56,520
was already at the base of the tree, growling. And

2081
02:10:56,800 --> 02:11:00,239
the thing was it. It wasn't a big cat, and

2082
02:11:00,359 --> 02:11:03,159
it wasn't a black beard. He come up the tree

2083
02:11:03,239 --> 02:11:06,239
after me. Well, whatever it was, it couldn't climb. It

2084
02:11:06,319 --> 02:11:08,880
didn't climb up the tree, but it was going around

2085
02:11:08,960 --> 02:11:11,920
the base, and then it went one direction and then

2086
02:11:12,039 --> 02:11:13,960
to come back, and he'd go around the tree again

2087
02:11:14,079 --> 02:11:15,760
or two two three, tin and then to go off

2088
02:11:15,800 --> 02:11:18,840
in another direction and come back. And then I waited

2089
02:11:18,920 --> 02:11:22,760
up there for probably oh no, forty minutes or so

2090
02:11:22,840 --> 02:11:25,880
another forty minutes, just so one come around. And then

2091
02:11:26,840 --> 02:11:28,399
you'd hear someone on the hillside. You're like, oh, I

2092
02:11:28,479 --> 02:11:31,199
gotta wait more like that gum, what is that thing?

2093
02:11:31,920 --> 02:11:34,319
And uh, because you know once you get out of

2094
02:11:34,319 --> 02:11:36,359
that tree, he's gonna have out it on you. Uh

2095
02:11:37,239 --> 02:11:41,000
it ain't gonna be good, So I said, I waited

2096
02:11:41,039 --> 02:11:43,920
there on a couple of hours, two three hours, and

2097
02:11:44,039 --> 02:11:46,520
I finally come out of that tree, and soon a

2098
02:11:46,720 --> 02:11:52,079
branch gave out down I went, and uh it messed

2099
02:11:52,119 --> 02:11:54,600
me up a little bit, and uh, no more tree

2100
02:11:54,680 --> 02:11:57,279
climbing for me. And that's now, that's why I pack

2101
02:11:57,319 --> 02:12:00,319
around my forty five this time. I'm not going to

2102
02:12:00,359 --> 02:12:02,000
get up in the tree. If I have to use it,

2103
02:12:02,239 --> 02:12:04,800
I guess they're gonna have to use it. I don't

2104
02:12:04,800 --> 02:12:06,439
really want to shoot anything out there. That's The only

2105
02:12:06,439 --> 02:12:09,560
reason why I carry a forty five because some of

2106
02:12:09,640 --> 02:12:11,720
these idiots out there, these homeless people think they own

2107
02:12:11,760 --> 02:12:17,359
the forest, the crazy people out there. When you're out

2108
02:12:17,399 --> 02:12:20,800
there deep, so like I said, it's just you know,

2109
02:12:21,359 --> 02:12:22,960
you got to stay frosty when you're out there. You

2110
02:12:23,000 --> 02:12:26,119
don't know who you'renna run into. I'm not really worried

2111
02:12:26,159 --> 02:12:28,399
about the Bigfoot doing anything because then they're bothered me.

2112
02:12:29,600 --> 02:12:33,319
Just them cryptid things is what I've got a concern about,

2113
02:12:34,720 --> 02:12:37,159
because where I'm going to look for Bigfoot, these things

2114
02:12:37,359 --> 02:12:40,399
just seems like they're running well them or running near them.

2115
02:12:43,199 --> 02:12:48,520
That's what I've noticed in fifty years. I just want

2116
02:12:48,600 --> 02:12:50,920
my just to want the Bigfoot back, you know, trying

2117
02:12:50,920 --> 02:12:54,000
to get him, trying to get as much information I

2118
02:12:54,079 --> 02:12:58,159
can on him. Because I told somebody at one time

2119
02:13:00,279 --> 02:13:04,279
back in the day that there's there's a difference. There's

2120
02:13:04,319 --> 02:13:07,039
the Southeastern on high a bigfoot, and then there's a

2121
02:13:07,079 --> 02:13:10,720
Southeastern High grassman. And he said, well, what's the difference.

2122
02:13:10,760 --> 02:13:12,800
I said, Well, the Southeastern High bigfoot he has that

2123
02:13:12,920 --> 02:13:17,039
long company hair, And I said, the grass man he

2124
02:13:17,119 --> 02:13:21,000
has that tight hair, a little bit longer than a

2125
02:13:21,079 --> 02:13:23,560
horse hair. But it's tight short, and you can see

2126
02:13:24,119 --> 02:13:27,399
the big muscle mass, big neck muscles and shoulder muscle,

2127
02:13:27,479 --> 02:13:31,880
bulls and oh, off of him and his face he's

2128
02:13:31,920 --> 02:13:35,039
got he's got like our nose. He's like he's got

2129
02:13:35,079 --> 02:13:38,079
our top lip and kind of like our nose and

2130
02:13:38,199 --> 02:13:41,960
our eyes. But his bottom lip is like kind of rounded,

2131
02:13:42,560 --> 02:13:44,359
like a kind of like a monkey.

2132
02:13:44,399 --> 02:13:44,720
Speaker 5: But now.

2133
02:13:46,560 --> 02:13:50,479
Speaker 1: It's hard to explain. But I told the person, I

2134
02:13:50,520 --> 02:13:52,399
said yeah, and they said, oh, Richard, and I said,

2135
02:13:52,439 --> 02:13:55,840
I'm telling you. And it took me about almost forty years,

2136
02:13:56,039 --> 02:13:59,600
about forty two years almost to prove that again because

2137
02:13:59,600 --> 02:14:02,600
I told him I saw one. And then forty some

2138
02:14:02,800 --> 02:14:05,560
years later I finally got a picture of the grass man.

2139
02:14:06,439 --> 02:14:09,760
Uh stand up on the cliff up there at the pit. Uh.

2140
02:14:10,399 --> 02:14:12,239
One shot he come walking right up and he stopped

2141
02:14:12,319 --> 02:14:15,720
facing me. You can see his face features and eyes, wear,

2142
02:14:15,760 --> 02:14:17,840
his nose and mouth, and you can see his giant

2143
02:14:17,920 --> 02:14:21,000
neck muscles, shoulder muscles, arm muscle. You can see its

2144
02:14:21,199 --> 02:14:21,800
length day of.

2145
02:14:23,279 --> 02:14:23,439
Speaker 5: Uh.

2146
02:14:24,720 --> 02:14:26,039
Speaker 1: Like I said, one of a kind in the world.

2147
02:14:26,079 --> 02:14:28,479
I'll never get another one. Probably. Uh.

2148
02:14:30,840 --> 02:14:32,279
Speaker 5: Do you want to do you want you want to

2149
02:14:32,319 --> 02:14:35,439
see these things proven? Or no?

2150
02:14:35,680 --> 02:14:38,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, I mean I think, I think, I mean

2151
02:14:38,680 --> 02:14:41,359
big plus just the purson near a household name uh

2152
02:14:42,119 --> 02:14:46,199
Verry right. You know, I don't know why the sciences

2153
02:14:46,399 --> 02:14:49,239
don't get off of it. I mean, your big fuss

2154
02:14:49,319 --> 02:14:51,800
out there, and so was his buddies. And like I

2155
02:14:51,840 --> 02:14:54,920
said that, I just tell people they don't believe. Stay

2156
02:14:54,920 --> 02:14:56,279
out there in the force long enough, you can get

2157
02:14:56,279 --> 02:14:58,600
away from that phone, in that computer. You stay out

2158
02:14:58,600 --> 02:15:02,399
there long enough, you might see something. But me, I

2159
02:15:02,479 --> 02:15:05,279
don't have one of them I call dumb phones or smartphones,

2160
02:15:05,319 --> 02:15:08,239
I don't have them. I'm old technology. I just got

2161
02:15:08,279 --> 02:15:12,359
an old Donalds or flipphone anything. If they take that away, well,

2162
02:15:12,399 --> 02:15:14,520
if you want to contact me, send the carrier pigeon.

2163
02:15:17,760 --> 02:15:21,359
I'm not one of them conformed fellas. I'm not. I

2164
02:15:21,520 --> 02:15:24,119
was born without that technology. I'm gonna die without it.

2165
02:15:24,319 --> 02:15:27,560
Speaker 5: So that's just fine. Jeff, Do you want to throw

2166
02:15:27,640 --> 02:15:32,199
up our email address? Your email address? So Joshua's got

2167
02:15:32,359 --> 02:15:35,399
he thinks he may have hit a bigfoot with his truck,

2168
02:15:36,239 --> 02:15:38,760
if you'd like to, If you'd like, or anybody else

2169
02:15:38,840 --> 02:15:42,000
would like to come on this show, We're gonna throw

2170
02:15:42,159 --> 02:15:47,920
up the email address and chat. And mine is just

2171
02:15:48,640 --> 02:15:53,279
dug it Untold radioam dot com and Jeff's is Jeff

2172
02:15:53,399 --> 02:16:00,560
p at Untold radioam dot com. Pretty easy. But yeah,

2173
02:16:00,640 --> 02:16:03,239
if you'd like to come on and tell your story,

2174
02:16:03,279 --> 02:16:05,960
either all night or just even for a few minutes,

2175
02:16:06,920 --> 02:16:10,039
we love it. We love it. You don't have to

2176
02:16:10,079 --> 02:16:12,399
be like Richard and beyond for an hour and a half.

2177
02:16:13,720 --> 02:16:17,800
You can just come on and uh so, no, I'd

2178
02:16:17,840 --> 02:16:22,920
love to hear it. So anyhow, we're gonna wrap it up.

2179
02:16:23,399 --> 02:16:26,560
But I really appreciate coming on. Richard. It's great to

2180
02:16:26,680 --> 02:16:32,040
meet you. And and I understand that you were a drummer, right,

2181
02:16:32,120 --> 02:16:37,719
It's in your bio It says percussionist that a drummer

2182
02:16:37,959 --> 02:16:38,280
is that one.

2183
02:16:39,040 --> 02:16:42,280
Speaker 1: Uh well, drummer is just like you know, basically just

2184
02:16:42,399 --> 02:16:43,079
as drums.

2185
02:16:43,159 --> 02:16:48,799
Speaker 5: But a percussionist like like timpani. What what's a percussionist?

2186
02:16:49,639 --> 02:16:55,280
Speaker 1: Uh knows all like all percussion instruments. And uh And

2187
02:16:55,920 --> 02:16:59,000
because I read music, write music, sight read and compose,

2188
02:16:59,280 --> 02:17:06,559
I don't. And I was writing solos, percussion solos for

2189
02:17:06,680 --> 02:17:10,959
Atlantic to use the commercials. They said. I came up

2190
02:17:11,000 --> 02:17:15,479
with the new music general because I was I made

2191
02:17:15,520 --> 02:17:18,719
up sound effects and morphed them in the way I

2192
02:17:18,799 --> 02:17:23,159
wanted them, and I lined them all up and I said, okay,

2193
02:17:23,159 --> 02:17:24,600
I want this one here, this one here, and here,

2194
02:17:24,639 --> 02:17:30,079
and I composed all sound effects in the music. So

2195
02:17:30,159 --> 02:17:33,479
I didn't get a chance to finish it because due

2196
02:17:33,639 --> 02:17:37,000
to the laws now that you're not allowed to live

2197
02:17:37,920 --> 02:17:40,879
supposedly in the campground, they don't want people. You know,

2198
02:17:40,959 --> 02:17:43,360
we're not even living, we're not even standing actually just

2199
02:17:43,399 --> 02:17:46,040
going there for the week anywhere. But they won't allow that.

2200
02:17:46,280 --> 02:17:48,360
Now you going out in there from eight in the

2201
02:17:48,399 --> 02:17:54,399
morning till four in the afternoon. And that's the way

2202
02:17:54,479 --> 02:17:58,159
I said. If you pay your land tax there and

2203
02:17:58,239 --> 02:18:01,120
you own the property, why aren't you allowed to be

2204
02:18:01,200 --> 02:18:03,799
there at anytime you want to be there. But it's

2205
02:18:03,879 --> 02:18:05,799
just another one of the big land moguls are trying

2206
02:18:05,840 --> 02:18:08,079
to push in there to get this campground. And there's

2207
02:18:08,120 --> 02:18:10,520
places out there that we have that they want to

2208
02:18:10,559 --> 02:18:13,040
put in that new Well, like I said, down here

2209
02:18:13,079 --> 02:18:15,520
in Hawking County, it's going to be another little Gatlinburg.

2210
02:18:16,120 --> 02:18:18,159
That is what they're going to turn Hawking County into.

2211
02:18:18,319 --> 02:18:22,760
Speaker 5: And well, you know, fellas, you know, do you still

2212
02:18:22,879 --> 02:18:24,680
ride bikes motorcycles?

2213
02:18:25,360 --> 02:18:27,559
Speaker 1: Yes, I haven't gone on I haven't been able to ride.

2214
02:18:27,600 --> 02:18:30,319
In a few years, I'm finally going to this weather

2215
02:18:30,440 --> 02:18:33,840
here's breaking. I'm finally gonna get a chance to get

2216
02:18:33,879 --> 02:18:36,399
on and ride. You got a two thousand and five

2217
02:18:36,440 --> 02:18:41,200
Electric Glide Classic full dresser quiet. I don't like allowing

2218
02:18:41,239 --> 02:18:44,200
because out here on these secondary roads, if you want

2219
02:18:44,200 --> 02:18:45,719
to get in a bike, erect just right on these

2220
02:18:45,760 --> 02:18:47,440
old back roads here and the dog will wreck you.

2221
02:18:47,440 --> 02:18:52,079
You'll come round try to catch your tires. But uh yeah,

2222
02:18:52,479 --> 02:18:54,239
I really appreciate you guys, have me on the show

2223
02:18:54,280 --> 02:18:58,639
and let me thank you. So the the public, your public,

2224
02:19:00,079 --> 02:19:05,079
these tracks and maybe somebody that's seen one or or

2225
02:19:05,319 --> 02:19:08,760
knows what that is or that's what that's what I

2226
02:19:08,840 --> 02:19:11,959
want to know, and anybody wants to come out to

2227
02:19:12,239 --> 02:19:17,399
the pit. I'm going to have another run here next month.

2228
02:19:18,719 --> 02:19:21,200
I'm gonna probably do it by maybe near to the

2229
02:19:21,719 --> 02:19:25,159
middle of the month. It was not only too hot.

2230
02:19:26,479 --> 02:19:29,959
Anybody wants to come or it'll be on our We'll

2231
02:19:30,000 --> 02:19:33,399
post it on our Facebook on a Hio cryptid researcher

2232
02:19:34,799 --> 02:19:38,959
dot com on Facebook. It's a private thing. I don't like.

2233
02:19:39,040 --> 02:19:41,760
I said, I'm not one of them hit that like

2234
02:19:41,799 --> 02:19:44,959
and subscribe fellows. I'm I'm not you know, hit that

2235
02:19:45,040 --> 02:19:48,639
Golden Mother. I'm just me. I'm just a regular researcher.

2236
02:19:49,879 --> 02:19:53,120
Like I said, I just got a lot of research

2237
02:19:53,840 --> 02:19:58,040
evidence and I just needed since people wanted to see it,

2238
02:19:58,159 --> 02:20:00,399
it's time to put it all out there. Yeah so,

2239
02:20:01,479 --> 02:20:03,440
and I appreciate you fellows for letting me do that.

2240
02:20:03,920 --> 02:20:07,719
Speaker 5: Yeah. No, we appreciate having you on. Let's go ahead

2241
02:20:07,719 --> 02:20:09,760
and do it. Just stay put, Richard. We're going to

2242
02:20:09,840 --> 02:20:12,479
do our Wisdom of the Week and we will be

2243
02:20:12,799 --> 02:20:13,280
right back.

2244
02:20:13,799 --> 02:20:17,200
Speaker 2: Hang tedy, everyone, come on, righty, It's now time for

2245
02:20:17,360 --> 02:20:21,120
Untold Radio and Wisdom of the Week. Curiosity is the

2246
02:20:21,200 --> 02:20:25,040
mother of all learning, because every discovery begins with a question.

2247
02:20:26,079 --> 02:20:29,600
The moment we stop wondering, we stop growing. So stay curious,

2248
02:20:29,959 --> 02:20:33,159
keep asking, and never be afraid to explore what you

2249
02:20:33,239 --> 02:20:36,319
don't yet understand. Good night, We hope to see you

2250
02:20:36,440 --> 02:20:39,440
all next week. If you like the show tonight, please

2251
02:20:39,520 --> 02:20:42,600
consider giving us a thumbs up, leaving a nice comment,

2252
02:20:42,920 --> 02:20:45,639
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2253
02:20:45,799 --> 02:20:49,280
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2254
02:20:49,360 --> 02:20:52,920
please share this episode. Now back to Doug and Jeff

2255
02:20:52,959 --> 02:20:53,680
for our rap.

2256
02:21:01,120 --> 02:21:05,840
Speaker 5: And we are back. Thank you. Everybody in chat lots

2257
02:21:05,879 --> 02:21:11,879
of activity. We really appreciate it. And Joshua get ahold

2258
02:21:11,920 --> 02:21:15,760
of Jeff and I would love to have you on

2259
02:21:15,920 --> 02:21:21,440
to tell your story about the strange animal you hit. Richard.

2260
02:21:22,680 --> 02:21:26,200
You you take care and you see if you can

2261
02:21:26,280 --> 02:21:27,840
get back on that damn bike.

2262
02:21:28,680 --> 02:21:30,200
Speaker 1: Tell you and get on that bike.

2263
02:21:31,360 --> 02:21:31,520
Speaker 8: Yeah.

2264
02:21:31,559 --> 02:21:33,280
Speaker 1: I like to show that other people to want.

2265
02:21:33,639 --> 02:21:33,760
Speaker 11: Uh.

2266
02:21:34,760 --> 02:21:37,760
Speaker 1: I was bit by something up out of our water

2267
02:21:37,920 --> 02:21:44,159
tower up there. Yeah, it's it. It was not wide.

2268
02:21:45,079 --> 02:21:48,159
I got pictures of it. My wife sent it to you.

2269
02:21:48,879 --> 02:21:52,280
It'll had all fang points and what has a four

2270
02:21:52,360 --> 02:21:52,840
inch wide?

2271
02:21:52,920 --> 02:21:54,600
Speaker 5: What did okay, when did that happen?

2272
02:21:55,920 --> 02:22:07,280
Speaker 1: That about uh four years ago? What has a four

2273
02:22:07,360 --> 02:22:08,479
inch wide? Bipe? Mark?

2274
02:22:09,399 --> 02:22:11,879
Speaker 5: But were you awake when this happened? Were you a sleeping?

2275
02:22:12,040 --> 02:22:15,000
Speaker 1: Yeah? I was in my truck and I dropped the flashlight.

2276
02:22:15,719 --> 02:22:17,280
I just got off the phone. My wife and I

2277
02:22:17,360 --> 02:22:21,319
reached down to to get it and it was like

2278
02:22:21,879 --> 02:22:25,479
like a like bam. It hit me, threw me under

2279
02:22:25,559 --> 02:22:27,200
the truck and if I didn't have a hold of

2280
02:22:27,280 --> 02:22:29,079
steering whel over it to pulled me under the truck

2281
02:22:30,399 --> 02:22:34,159
and uh whatever bit me? Uh it had all fang

2282
02:22:34,280 --> 02:22:39,280
points and uh it took thirteen weeks to heal and

2283
02:22:39,360 --> 02:22:43,159
it never scabbed. It just healed to a scar. And

2284
02:22:44,040 --> 02:22:47,399
whatever I put on it would not I put triple

2285
02:22:47,399 --> 02:22:49,920
antibiotic on it. It just run out around it. It

2286
02:22:49,959 --> 02:22:53,639
would not stay on the wounds. Uh, well, I don't

2287
02:22:53,680 --> 02:22:56,559
know what that was. I never had never seen anything.

2288
02:22:56,600 --> 02:22:58,040
I had a four inch wide bipe mark.

2289
02:22:59,399 --> 02:23:02,760
Speaker 5: Very strange. It sounds like it sounds like we'll have

2290
02:23:02,840 --> 02:23:07,559
to cover that in another night. Yeah yeah, So anyhow, well,

2291
02:23:07,639 --> 02:23:12,840
thanks everybody. We really appreciate it and hopefully cools off

2292
02:23:12,959 --> 02:23:18,680
for everybody, including here. We need somewhere to leave, so

2293
02:23:18,840 --> 02:23:22,120
we love y'all. Thank you so much, God bless We

2294
02:23:22,239 --> 02:23:23,639
will see you all next week.

2295
02:23:26,399 --> 02:23:29,079
Speaker 4: Call you up in the middle of the night.

2296
02:23:29,600 --> 02:23:32,879
Speaker 3: Been bothered by dreams and feeling all day.

2297
02:23:33,959 --> 02:23:36,879
Speaker 5: You give me comfort, say just give it some time.

2298
02:23:37,159 --> 02:23:40,920
Speaker 3: By the end of that talk, I'm feeling just fine.

2299
02:23:41,559 --> 02:23:41,840
Speaker 11: June.

2300
02:23:42,040 --> 02:23:45,680
Speaker 5: I always know when we be love.

2301
02:23:49,040 --> 02:23:51,600
Speaker 1: They say no more and very we.

2302
02:23:51,799 --> 02:23:59,000
Speaker 4: Gotta go in all. I'll pick you up and up.

2303
02:23:59,079 --> 02:24:02,319
Fifteen part We head on down the road.

2304
02:24:02,680 --> 02:24:07,440
Speaker 3: Two week care for just doing the sun and the

2305
02:24:07,799 --> 02:24:09,959
wind it gracious.

2306
02:24:09,360 --> 02:24:14,760
Speaker 4: Top blable, head on home again. Everybody has can city

2307
02:24:15,399 --> 02:24:23,319
would we be in a we know every we can

2308
02:24:23,479 --> 02:24:24,680
go in all.

2309
02:24:26,920 --> 02:24:31,600
Speaker 6: At the end of the world together forever fall and

2310
02:24:31,879 --> 02:24:36,319
always if better you should be in town in Oprey.

2311
02:24:36,840 --> 02:24:40,719
Speaker 3: We never can put us apart in allway.

2312
02:24:42,479 --> 02:24:46,879
Speaker 6: All the time, I would be together ever every day,

2313
02:24:47,079 --> 02:24:52,840
but idos if beever would be less straight up away

2314
02:24:53,000 --> 02:24:56,120
back home to shoot up again.

2315
02:25:00,120 --> 02:25:15,040
Speaker 4: At the end of the.

2316
02:25:15,159 --> 02:25:20,799
Speaker 3: World together forever is well our way it never you

2317
02:25:20,959 --> 02:25:23,159
should be endowed or comprate.

2318
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Speaker 4: They never compose a part in Lorway.

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Speaker 3: At the end of the world together forever is fd

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in Norway. If never we should be endowed and Hollays

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they never compose a part in a way WI when

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we beg together, never became a had it never.

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Speaker 4: Would be astray than a back again