WEBVTT 1 00:00:06.440 --> 00:00:10.679 On September thirteenth, two thousand and seven, a woman's body 2 00:00:10.800 --> 00:00:13.359 was found in the burnt out remains of a stolen 3 00:00:13.480 --> 00:00:15.839 van in Hillsborough County, Florida. 4 00:00:17.079 --> 00:00:20.199 When she was jogging in the early morning darkness, he 5 00:00:20.239 --> 00:00:24.120 abducted her and dragged her into a secluded location just 6 00:00:24.199 --> 00:00:26.960 off of a main roadway, where he raped her and 7 00:00:27.039 --> 00:00:28.000 stabbed her to death. 8 00:00:28.760 --> 00:00:31.719 She did nothing wrong, She was just a victim of 9 00:00:31.760 --> 00:00:32.520 an evil person. 10 00:00:33.799 --> 00:00:37.479 Investigators were struggling to find any clues, but the killer's 11 00:00:37.520 --> 00:00:40.119 loose lips soon led detectives to his door. 12 00:00:40.399 --> 00:00:44.000 When the news came on about a body, he seemed 13 00:00:44.000 --> 00:00:47.079 to kind of excited about the whole conversation. It was 14 00:00:47.119 --> 00:00:49.520 almost as if he had more information than what she 15 00:00:49.600 --> 00:00:50.719 even heard on the TV. 16 00:00:52.520 --> 00:00:55.719 The man in question was unemployed twenty five year old 17 00:00:55.799 --> 00:00:56.759 Kenneth Jackson. 18 00:00:57.280 --> 00:01:01.880 Jackson showed absolutely no rom morphs for what he had done. 19 00:01:02.359 --> 00:01:03.840 Is a psychopathic killer. 20 00:01:04.680 --> 00:01:07.879 He was so proud of what he'd done that he 21 00:01:08.040 --> 00:01:09.200 had to talk about it. 22 00:01:10.040 --> 00:01:13.840 Kenneth Jackson had inadvertently revealed himself as one of the 23 00:01:13.879 --> 00:01:43.519 world's most evil killers. On June fifth, twenty thirteen, thirteen 24 00:01:43.599 --> 00:01:47.239 year old Kenneth Jackson was sentenced to death after being 25 00:01:47.280 --> 00:01:52.760 found guilty of murdering mother of three, Kouktran. He'd ambushed 26 00:01:52.799 --> 00:01:55.200 her while she was out on an early morning run 27 00:01:55.519 --> 00:01:59.640 in her hometown of Sefna, a small community just outside 28 00:01:59.719 --> 00:02:01.359 tam in Florida. 29 00:02:01.519 --> 00:02:05.079 We're talking about a very small area of Florida, so 30 00:02:05.120 --> 00:02:08.560 you can imagine a murder would send shop waves through 31 00:02:08.639 --> 00:02:12.120 that small community. They were literally horrifying. 32 00:02:13.319 --> 00:02:18.280 I think the impact only reinforced the notion that women 33 00:02:18.319 --> 00:02:23.560 aren't safe running alone in the dark. They're an easy target. 34 00:02:24.719 --> 00:02:28.319 No matter how many self defense classes they may take, 35 00:02:29.039 --> 00:02:33.719 or they may carry a pepper spray. It's not enough. 36 00:02:34.639 --> 00:02:38.240 It's just an element of surprise and the strength of 37 00:02:38.280 --> 00:02:42.759 the predators too much for any woman to overcome. 38 00:02:43.919 --> 00:02:47.560 Kenneth Jackson showed no remorse for taking the life of 39 00:02:47.599 --> 00:02:48.719 an innocent woman. 40 00:02:49.240 --> 00:02:53.520 He had no emotion to the fact that this was 41 00:02:53.599 --> 00:03:00.159 a woman with children's school age children that she was 42 00:03:00.199 --> 00:03:03.240 working to take care of. He didn't have respect for 43 00:03:04.000 --> 00:03:07.840 life in general. He didn't seem to care. Everything was 44 00:03:08.039 --> 00:03:10.280 only about himself at our times. 45 00:03:14.120 --> 00:03:18.840 This killer story begins on June twenty sixth, nineteen eighty two. 46 00:03:19.240 --> 00:03:24.159 Kenneth Ray Jackson was born in Hillsborough County, Florida. He 47 00:03:24.280 --> 00:03:28.120 was the product of an inappropriate and unlawful relationship. 48 00:03:28.360 --> 00:03:33.199 It's hard to imagine a less satisfactory childhood than Kenny Jackson's. 49 00:03:33.599 --> 00:03:37.439 His mother when he was conceived was fourteen, her partner 50 00:03:37.439 --> 00:03:40.560 at the time was twenty eight. She gave him up 51 00:03:40.639 --> 00:03:43.479 effectively at the age of six months, to her mother, 52 00:03:43.719 --> 00:03:45.719 his grandmother, and her boyfriend. 53 00:03:46.560 --> 00:03:50.520 Kenny did have a rough upbringing. He was moved around 54 00:03:50.520 --> 00:03:54.360 from different family members. He suffered some abuse when he 55 00:03:54.400 --> 00:03:57.199 was growing up, physical abuse. He saw a lot of abuse. 56 00:03:57.599 --> 00:04:00.360 And it wasn't just at home where Jackson had a 57 00:04:00.400 --> 00:04:01.319 difficult time. 58 00:04:01.879 --> 00:04:07.120 Probably inevitably, Jackson's school reports reflected that he was aggressive, 59 00:04:07.840 --> 00:04:11.680 he was belligerent in casts, he was just a really, 60 00:04:11.919 --> 00:04:13.159 really difficult boy. 61 00:04:14.000 --> 00:04:19.839 His teachers raised concerns about his behavior, about the way 62 00:04:19.839 --> 00:04:23.000 he was turned out when he came to school, and 63 00:04:23.319 --> 00:04:28.879 they had huge difficulties finding who his guardians even were. 64 00:04:29.000 --> 00:04:31.560 Who it was who was supposed to be looking after 65 00:04:31.839 --> 00:04:35.560 this child. I don't think he had any stability in 66 00:04:35.600 --> 00:04:42.240 his life, so not surprising that he turned towards criminality. 67 00:04:44.040 --> 00:04:47.000 In two thousand and three, at the age of twenty one, 68 00:04:47.360 --> 00:04:51.000 Kenneth Jackson was sentenced to five years in prison after 69 00:04:51.040 --> 00:04:55.319 a spate of car thefts. He was released four years 70 00:04:55.399 --> 00:04:58.439 later on July the twenty six, two thousand and seven, 71 00:04:58.759 --> 00:05:02.319 and headed to the small residential community of Sefna in 72 00:05:02.399 --> 00:05:03.399 Hillsborough County. 73 00:05:05.759 --> 00:05:08.040 When he got out of prison, he ended up moving 74 00:05:08.079 --> 00:05:13.040 in with a couple, the O'Neill's, Lenda and Wally O'Neill, 75 00:05:13.480 --> 00:05:16.839 and they allowed him to move into the trailer with them. 76 00:05:17.199 --> 00:05:22.319 Woolly was Jackson's grandmother's old boyfriend, the boyfriend who had 77 00:05:22.319 --> 00:05:24.600 been with his grandmother when he arrived with her at 78 00:05:24.600 --> 00:05:28.199 the age of six months. Although they must have had 79 00:05:28.199 --> 00:05:32.560 a very strange relationship, it was probably the only place 80 00:05:32.879 --> 00:05:35.160 in which Kenny Jackson felt at home. 81 00:05:41.120 --> 00:05:45.560 On September thirteenth, two thousand and seven, twelve miles away 82 00:05:45.800 --> 00:05:50.000 in the neighboring town of Gibsonton, Hillsborough County, fire rescue 83 00:05:50.040 --> 00:05:53.279 were called to a van engulfed in flames at seven 84 00:05:53.279 --> 00:05:56.680 o'clock in the morning. What they discovered when they got 85 00:05:56.680 --> 00:05:59.560 there was a scene of unimaginable horror. 86 00:06:00.199 --> 00:06:03.879 When the fire department put the vehicle fire out, they 87 00:06:03.920 --> 00:06:09.360 discovered a body inside. That of course triggered phone calls 88 00:06:09.399 --> 00:06:13.959 to the homicide section and supervisors had detectives respond to 89 00:06:13.959 --> 00:06:18.160 the area, so I went down to the Gibsonton area. 90 00:06:19.639 --> 00:06:22.240 At that point I was assigned to be the lead 91 00:06:22.439 --> 00:06:23.519 detective on the case. 92 00:06:25.160 --> 00:06:28.040 The body was charged beyond recognition. 93 00:06:29.600 --> 00:06:31.439 It was literally a mess. 94 00:06:32.240 --> 00:06:35.879 With no identification to be found on the charred remains. 95 00:06:36.199 --> 00:06:39.160 Detectives turned their attention to the burnt out car. 96 00:06:39.639 --> 00:06:42.240 I was told at the time that they had recovered 97 00:06:42.240 --> 00:06:45.600 a license plate off of the vehicle, and of course 98 00:06:45.680 --> 00:06:50.439 that was a start. We were able to make contact 99 00:06:50.439 --> 00:06:53.120 with the owner. We learned that the vehicle had been 100 00:06:53.480 --> 00:06:58.040 listed at the Gentleman's job site as for sale. It 101 00:06:58.040 --> 00:07:00.959 had been parked in the parking lot there. He worked 102 00:07:00.959 --> 00:07:04.480 part time at an autoparts store repairing it to sell it. 103 00:07:05.079 --> 00:07:09.839 He had a sign for sale in the window. After 104 00:07:09.920 --> 00:07:13.319 we determined that this vehicle must have been stolen, we 105 00:07:13.439 --> 00:07:16.240 had the van taken back to our crime scene offices 106 00:07:16.279 --> 00:07:19.680 at the Sheriff's office. But during this time, during the 107 00:07:19.680 --> 00:07:22.879 course of the day, there were other events unfolding that 108 00:07:23.079 --> 00:07:24.399 I wasn't immediately aware of. 109 00:07:27.439 --> 00:07:31.240 In a seemingly unrelated incident, twelve miles north of the 110 00:07:31.279 --> 00:07:34.279 torch Car, a discovery had been made in the grounds 111 00:07:34.279 --> 00:07:35.720 of a church in Cefna. 112 00:07:36.240 --> 00:07:40.839 The sergeant was notified that there were some clothing items, shoes, 113 00:07:41.879 --> 00:07:46.439 and some blood that had been located in front of 114 00:07:46.439 --> 00:07:50.120 the Saint Francis Church on five point seventy nine north 115 00:07:50.160 --> 00:07:50.920 of MLK. 116 00:07:53.959 --> 00:07:58.360 There had been a yard crew and they had actually 117 00:07:58.480 --> 00:08:03.079 been mowing the lawns found this bloody clothing and a 118 00:08:03.199 --> 00:08:06.279 Sheriff's Office deputy had gone out there and they had 119 00:08:06.319 --> 00:08:09.839 recovered some of that clothing and items that were left behind. 120 00:08:11.120 --> 00:08:14.439 At this stage, police were unsure about whether these two 121 00:08:14.480 --> 00:08:18.800 events were connected until a panicked young man contacted them 122 00:08:18.839 --> 00:08:19.319 for help. 123 00:08:22.079 --> 00:08:25.360 Three in the afternoon or so, I received a call 124 00:08:25.519 --> 00:08:29.519 from my dispatch saying there was a young man there 125 00:08:30.000 --> 00:08:32.960 who was looking for his mother and she'd been missing, 126 00:08:32.960 --> 00:08:36.080 that she had left early in the morning and had 127 00:08:36.399 --> 00:08:42.159 never came back. We had this person that we believed 128 00:08:42.279 --> 00:08:45.840 was a female and could not identify. At that point, 129 00:08:46.919 --> 00:08:49.600 it's like, yeah, we need to check this out. 130 00:08:51.200 --> 00:08:53.679 Where they were calling in from was just north of 131 00:08:53.720 --> 00:08:56.960 where that Saint Francis church was and where the clothes 132 00:08:57.000 --> 00:09:00.440 and the blood was located. I went up there and 133 00:09:00.480 --> 00:09:03.360 I looked at the area, and that was when it 134 00:09:03.440 --> 00:09:06.399 was very evident that it was not a little bit 135 00:09:06.399 --> 00:09:09.559 of wood. Somebody had somebody had died there. 136 00:09:11.840 --> 00:09:17.320 The missing woman was fifty year old Vietnamese immigrant Kouk Chran. Meanwhile, 137 00:09:17.399 --> 00:09:21.440 more information was coming through about the unidentified body found 138 00:09:21.519 --> 00:09:25.159 in the van. It was becoming increasingly likely that the 139 00:09:25.200 --> 00:09:28.440 missing person's report and the body were connected. 140 00:09:29.120 --> 00:09:34.080 It appeared she had Asian features, and in learning that 141 00:09:34.159 --> 00:09:38.799 this was a Asian male that was reporting his missing 142 00:09:39.039 --> 00:09:42.639 Asian mother, of course everyone is starting to think this 143 00:09:42.879 --> 00:09:48.720 is our woman. I asked for some details about some 144 00:09:48.759 --> 00:09:52.120 particular jewelry, because this body that was burned up in 145 00:09:52.159 --> 00:09:54.039 the van still had lots of jewelry on. 146 00:09:55.519 --> 00:09:58.639 They were able to link jewelry from pictures in the 147 00:09:58.679 --> 00:10:02.240 house to what was on her person. So at that's 148 00:10:02.320 --> 00:10:05.120 point in time, we were pretty positive that Kuktran was 149 00:10:05.159 --> 00:10:06.639 our victim. 150 00:10:07.000 --> 00:10:11.559 The small community of Sefna was left in shock. Detectives 151 00:10:11.600 --> 00:10:15.000 had no clue who had committed this terrible crime, but 152 00:10:15.120 --> 00:10:17.919 the killer was about to make a huge mistake that 153 00:10:18.000 --> 00:10:33.159 would lead police straight to his door. On the morning 154 00:10:33.200 --> 00:10:37.840 of September thirteenth, two thousand and seven, in Hillsborough County, Florida, 155 00:10:38.159 --> 00:10:41.039 a pile of blooded clothes had been discovered in the 156 00:10:41.080 --> 00:10:45.480 grounds of a church. Twelve miles away, the charred remains 157 00:10:45.519 --> 00:10:48.120 of a woman had been found inside a burning van. 158 00:10:48.679 --> 00:10:52.200 Detectives believed her to be fifty year old Vietnamese immigrant 159 00:10:52.279 --> 00:10:54.440 Kuktran from the town of Sefna. 160 00:10:55.360 --> 00:10:59.440 She was a mother of three. She had an older 161 00:10:59.480 --> 00:11:03.080 son who was off at college, a sixteen year old 162 00:11:03.159 --> 00:11:06.120 that was going to high school, and a ten year old. 163 00:11:07.200 --> 00:11:10.600 She worked a full time job as a nail technician. 164 00:11:11.320 --> 00:11:14.799 She lived at home in a trailer park, and she 165 00:11:14.919 --> 00:11:17.919 would get up very early in the morning to try 166 00:11:17.960 --> 00:11:20.039 to find a little bit of time for herself to 167 00:11:20.080 --> 00:11:23.080 go for a walk or a jog to try to 168 00:11:23.080 --> 00:11:24.159 take care of herself. 169 00:11:25.840 --> 00:11:29.279 Cook John had settled in Hillsborough County after leaving her 170 00:11:29.320 --> 00:11:32.200 homeland in search of a better life. 171 00:11:32.679 --> 00:11:34.879 Her and her husband were part of the exodus from 172 00:11:35.000 --> 00:11:40.200 Vietnam in the seventies and eighties after the Communists took 173 00:11:40.240 --> 00:11:42.639 over South Vietnam after the Vietnam War. 174 00:11:44.960 --> 00:11:48.759 It sounded like a pretty horrific struggle after the war 175 00:11:48.879 --> 00:11:52.039 for her and her children and her husband to come 176 00:11:52.080 --> 00:11:55.879 here for the missus. Trying to leave a war zone 177 00:11:56.200 --> 00:11:59.279 and come to the United States. We as an example 178 00:11:59.320 --> 00:12:04.159 of the American dream. She was escaping violence of the 179 00:12:04.200 --> 00:12:07.720 war and come into a country where people are believed 180 00:12:07.720 --> 00:12:11.080 to be safe and give an opportunity. 181 00:12:11.919 --> 00:12:15.480 For Kuktran. However, the United States was far from the 182 00:12:15.639 --> 00:12:18.480 safe haven she'd hope for, and her life had been 183 00:12:18.559 --> 00:12:25.000 cut short in the most brutal way. With no immediate suspects. 184 00:12:25.200 --> 00:12:28.639 Police started to look into Kuktran's life for clues. 185 00:12:30.799 --> 00:12:35.039 There were some issues with her marriage. They weren't necessarily 186 00:12:35.080 --> 00:12:39.360 living together, but they were still good friends. Both parents 187 00:12:39.440 --> 00:12:43.279 were still very much focused on taking care of the kids. 188 00:12:44.240 --> 00:12:49.000 She would get up do some exercise. Her husband would 189 00:12:49.039 --> 00:12:51.559 come by in the mornings help get the kids ready 190 00:12:51.600 --> 00:12:52.159 for school. 191 00:12:52.840 --> 00:12:53.720 She would get back. 192 00:12:53.600 --> 00:12:56.840 From her morning exercise routine and she would get them 193 00:12:56.840 --> 00:13:00.159 to school, and then she would go to work. A 194 00:13:00.240 --> 00:13:05.840 responsible employee, got along well with everyone. She was evidently 195 00:13:05.840 --> 00:13:11.360 well liked by her customers. She did nothing wrong. She 196 00:13:11.559 --> 00:13:13.639 was just a victim of an evil person. 197 00:13:15.799 --> 00:13:19.240 Kuk trans daily morning run would take her past in 198 00:13:19.360 --> 00:13:21.200 Francis Church in Sefna. 199 00:13:21.600 --> 00:13:24.519 It was a very large church property where it had 200 00:13:24.879 --> 00:13:27.720 quite a bit of open land between the roadway and 201 00:13:27.759 --> 00:13:28.559 the church itself. 202 00:13:30.320 --> 00:13:32.480 If a car was going by at five in the morning, 203 00:13:33.080 --> 00:13:34.279 it wouldn't see you down there. 204 00:13:35.600 --> 00:13:39.080 Detectives started working on the theory that kook Tran was 205 00:13:39.159 --> 00:13:42.200 ambushed by her killer while she was out on her 206 00:13:42.240 --> 00:13:43.000 morning run. 207 00:13:43.559 --> 00:13:47.200 She had a routine she would run at five am 208 00:13:47.320 --> 00:13:51.200 and a morning before work. This was her only free time. 209 00:13:51.840 --> 00:13:54.240 It was really the only time she had to herself, 210 00:13:55.039 --> 00:13:59.000 which was even more tragic. That's all she had and 211 00:14:00.159 --> 00:14:02.879 dream that there was this predator. 212 00:14:02.480 --> 00:14:03.440 Waiting there for her. 213 00:14:05.240 --> 00:14:08.279 This isn't an area where there'll be lots of women 214 00:14:08.399 --> 00:14:11.600 to choose from, so this person had probably gone to 215 00:14:11.679 --> 00:14:16.480 that area before, checked it out, waited around, seeing how 216 00:14:16.480 --> 00:14:20.960 many people were around, whether they were likely to get caught. 217 00:14:22.159 --> 00:14:25.240 I don't think that this was opportunistic. I think this 218 00:14:25.440 --> 00:14:26.240 was targeted. 219 00:14:28.559 --> 00:14:29.600 We wanted to get the guy. 220 00:14:30.039 --> 00:14:32.919 I mean, that's the whole goal, right, you want to 221 00:14:32.960 --> 00:14:33.639 solve this thing. 222 00:14:34.879 --> 00:14:38.360 Detectives were convinced that Kuktran was killed in the grounds 223 00:14:38.440 --> 00:14:41.360 of the church and then her body driven away in 224 00:14:41.440 --> 00:14:44.399 the van that was found on fire twelve miles away. 225 00:14:45.240 --> 00:14:49.159 The autopsy confirmed the horrific circumstances of her death. 226 00:14:49.600 --> 00:14:53.080 The medical examiner was able to determine there were multiple 227 00:14:53.080 --> 00:14:58.679 stab wounds in the neck. The crotid artery had been cut. 228 00:14:58.720 --> 00:15:02.279 One of the stab wounds had cut through the victim's 229 00:15:02.559 --> 00:15:06.679 windpipe and would have probably prevented sufficient air from being 230 00:15:06.679 --> 00:15:08.600 able to go through the vocal cords so that she 231 00:15:08.639 --> 00:15:10.039 could vocalize. 232 00:15:10.639 --> 00:15:14.720 She was dead before the fire ever started. There was 233 00:15:14.759 --> 00:15:18.960 no soot in the windpipe or current looxide in the blood. 234 00:15:22.679 --> 00:15:26.759 The autopsy also discovered a possible motive for the crime. 235 00:15:27.159 --> 00:15:28.080 She had been raped. 236 00:15:30.559 --> 00:15:34.559 The medical examiner had collected blood slides and the vaginal 237 00:15:34.600 --> 00:15:38.080 swabs off for DNA, but we didn't have any comparisons 238 00:15:38.120 --> 00:15:39.000 at that point. 239 00:15:41.240 --> 00:15:45.600 Usually when people use fire to destroy a body, it's 240 00:15:45.679 --> 00:15:51.519 because they want to eliminate any forensic evidence at all. 241 00:15:52.840 --> 00:15:55.960 They think, I'm never going to get caught because I 242 00:15:56.120 --> 00:16:00.440 have destroyed every single piece of evidence. Well, fired doesn't 243 00:16:00.480 --> 00:16:05.720 always destroy every piece of evidence. This would have been 244 00:16:05.720 --> 00:16:08.120 an overconfidence, I think in that person. 245 00:16:10.799 --> 00:16:14.600 Desperate to find cook, trans killer detectives started to hand 246 00:16:14.600 --> 00:16:18.080 out flyers in the trailer park where she'd lived, appealing 247 00:16:18.120 --> 00:16:20.039 for information from her neighbors. 248 00:16:20.519 --> 00:16:23.000 There was probably one hundred or so trailers in this 249 00:16:23.039 --> 00:16:23.679 trailer park. 250 00:16:24.120 --> 00:16:27.159 We went house to house, handing the flyers out, talking 251 00:16:27.200 --> 00:16:27.799 to neighbors. 252 00:16:29.039 --> 00:16:30.840 There was one trailer. 253 00:16:30.600 --> 00:16:34.720 That I actually stopped at which was with an eyeshot 254 00:16:34.919 --> 00:16:38.720 of where the victim's house was her trailer, and it 255 00:16:38.879 --> 00:16:42.840 was a elderly individual that was their man, who was 256 00:16:43.000 --> 00:16:47.159 very inquisitive as to why I was there. So I 257 00:16:47.240 --> 00:16:50.720 finished walking through. It was extremely hot out that day. 258 00:16:51.440 --> 00:16:54.360 I was thirsty, so I decided to go to the 259 00:16:54.399 --> 00:16:56.759 gas station at the corner of MLK in five point 260 00:16:56.759 --> 00:16:58.840 seventy nine, which is just to the south of where 261 00:16:58.840 --> 00:17:03.320 Saint Francis Church was, And I walk in, I get 262 00:17:03.320 --> 00:17:06.720 my drink and I'm soaking with I've got a shirt tie. 263 00:17:07.160 --> 00:17:09.519 I walk up, I pay, and all of a sudden 264 00:17:09.799 --> 00:17:13.039 something hit me of saying, you know what, I'm gonna 265 00:17:13.079 --> 00:17:13.680 go get a flyer. 266 00:17:14.720 --> 00:17:16.720 I come back. I give the flyer to the clerk. 267 00:17:17.240 --> 00:17:20.599 As I started talking to her, she starts explaining how 268 00:17:20.880 --> 00:17:25.279 there was this individual who was in the store and 269 00:17:25.559 --> 00:17:29.480 when the news came on about a body and an investigation. 270 00:17:30.039 --> 00:17:31.920 He seemed to kind of excited. 271 00:17:31.759 --> 00:17:35.000 About the whole conversation and the subject matter and everything 272 00:17:35.039 --> 00:17:37.519 that was being said, but also it was almost as 273 00:17:37.519 --> 00:17:40.599 if he had more information than what she even heard being. 274 00:17:40.440 --> 00:17:41.359 Said on the TV. 275 00:17:42.480 --> 00:17:44.559 But really what stuck out to her was he was 276 00:17:44.599 --> 00:17:48.119 telling her he had seen couchtron jogging and the only 277 00:17:48.160 --> 00:17:50.720 time she did that was very early in the morning, 278 00:17:51.039 --> 00:17:53.640 right around five five point thirty in the morning, and 279 00:17:53.720 --> 00:17:56.519 that's when she was abducted. So that was pretty critical. 280 00:17:58.000 --> 00:18:02.119 The stranger's story confirmed the police already knew about kop 281 00:18:02.200 --> 00:18:06.240 Trad's morning routine, but it wasn't information they'd released to 282 00:18:06.319 --> 00:18:06.880 the public. 283 00:18:07.440 --> 00:18:10.759 This guy's talking and he's saying things that really haven't 284 00:18:10.759 --> 00:18:16.359 been publicly made. So that's a clue that that was 285 00:18:16.680 --> 00:18:20.799 a very strong Okay, we need to jump on this, 286 00:18:21.599 --> 00:18:23.160 and that started the ball rolling. 287 00:18:26.119 --> 00:18:28.519 I started asking her questions, well, you know who is 288 00:18:28.559 --> 00:18:32.880 this individual, you know where he lives, and she proceeds 289 00:18:32.880 --> 00:18:38.640 to tell me that his name's Kenny and he had 290 00:18:38.680 --> 00:18:40.920 just gotten released from prison. So I asked her what 291 00:18:41.039 --> 00:18:42.200 did he go to prison for? 292 00:18:42.240 --> 00:18:45.759 Do you know? And she said, I think grand theft. 293 00:18:45.799 --> 00:18:46.000 Daughter. 294 00:18:47.559 --> 00:18:50.319 At this point in time, now in the investigation. 295 00:18:50.039 --> 00:18:53.359 We know that the van that was burned with our 296 00:18:53.440 --> 00:18:56.599 victim in it was stolen from the Advanced Auto Parts 297 00:18:56.960 --> 00:18:59.640 literally two blocks from where I was standing at the 298 00:18:59.680 --> 00:19:03.880 guest and just south of where the victim was murtined. 299 00:19:05.039 --> 00:19:07.559 I said, where's he lived? Do you know anything about him? 300 00:19:07.759 --> 00:19:10.079 She said, yeah, he lives in the trailer park north 301 00:19:10.119 --> 00:19:10.440 of here. 302 00:19:12.359 --> 00:19:16.079 It turned out that this man, Kenny, lived in exactly 303 00:19:16.079 --> 00:19:18.319 the same trailer park as cook. 304 00:19:18.079 --> 00:19:22.839 Trap detectives finally had a breakthrough in the case, but 305 00:19:22.960 --> 00:19:26.039 all they had to go on was a single name, Kenny. 306 00:19:26.680 --> 00:19:29.759 They knew they had to find this man and fast 307 00:19:29.960 --> 00:19:43.279 before he killed again. On September nineteenth, two thousand and seven, 308 00:19:43.480 --> 00:19:46.680 six days after the murder of fifty year old Kuktran 309 00:19:46.799 --> 00:19:52.480 in Hillsborough County, Florida, detectives had their first lead. A 310 00:19:52.559 --> 00:19:55.720 man called Kenny, who'd aroused the suspicion of a gas 311 00:19:55.759 --> 00:19:59.440 station clerk when talking to her about the murder, lived 312 00:19:59.480 --> 00:20:03.200 in the same trailer park as the victim. Troy was 313 00:20:03.200 --> 00:20:06.839 reminded of a strangely inquisitive man he'd interviewed at the 314 00:20:06.880 --> 00:20:07.720 trailer park. 315 00:20:08.279 --> 00:20:10.160 Now, all of a sudden, the red flags start going 316 00:20:10.160 --> 00:20:12.960 off even more because now I realized, wait a minute, 317 00:20:13.200 --> 00:20:16.000 I wonder if this Kenny guy is the guy that 318 00:20:16.160 --> 00:20:19.240 I was sitting there asking myself. This guy's awful nosy, 319 00:20:19.240 --> 00:20:21.680 He's asking like a lot of detailed questions. 320 00:20:22.559 --> 00:20:25.880 Troy made his way back to the trailer park. The 321 00:20:25.960 --> 00:20:30.160 man he'd previously spoken to was Wally O'Neill, who'd once 322 00:20:30.240 --> 00:20:34.680 been in a relationship with Kenny's grandmother. While he confirmed 323 00:20:34.720 --> 00:20:39.559 that Kenny was in fact twenty five year old Kenneth Jackson, 324 00:20:40.359 --> 00:20:43.559 police discovered this wasn't the first time he'd been on 325 00:20:43.599 --> 00:20:45.559 the radar of law enforcement. 326 00:20:47.960 --> 00:20:51.640 He had had several arrests in the past. He had 327 00:20:51.680 --> 00:20:54.759 recently gotten out of prison. He hadn't been in an 328 00:20:54.960 --> 00:20:56.160 area long. 329 00:20:57.759 --> 00:20:57.960 While. 330 00:20:58.000 --> 00:21:01.359 He confirmed that Jackson had been living with him, but 331 00:21:01.519 --> 00:21:04.759 told Troy that he'd left town just two days before. 332 00:21:05.359 --> 00:21:08.559 We learned that at the time of the murder and 333 00:21:08.880 --> 00:21:12.839 the vehicle being burned, that he was not at home, 334 00:21:13.319 --> 00:21:16.400 so they couldn't give an alibi as to his whereabouts, 335 00:21:17.039 --> 00:21:19.319 but they did know for a fact that he did 336 00:21:19.400 --> 00:21:21.920 happen to be in the area where the burned van was. 337 00:21:23.200 --> 00:21:26.079 We haven't made contact with our person of interest yet, 338 00:21:26.599 --> 00:21:29.799 but we are getting verification that he's in the right 339 00:21:29.839 --> 00:21:32.839 place at the right times to be associated to it. 340 00:21:35.480 --> 00:21:38.880 Detectives that Kenneth Jackson had gone to live with his 341 00:21:39.000 --> 00:21:44.240 girlfriend in North Florida. On September twentieth, a week after 342 00:21:44.319 --> 00:21:47.279 the murder, they drove upstate to find him. 343 00:21:48.079 --> 00:21:50.079 We went up there and asked if he was willing 344 00:21:50.119 --> 00:21:53.440 to speak with us. He rode with us in the 345 00:21:53.480 --> 00:21:58.279 car over to the Carabelle Police Department office where we 346 00:21:58.319 --> 00:22:01.480 could sit down and do an audio recording and try 347 00:22:01.519 --> 00:22:03.200 and find out what he might know. 348 00:22:07.559 --> 00:22:12.359 While collecting DNA samples from Jackson. The detectives got a 349 00:22:12.440 --> 00:22:13.599 lucky break. 350 00:22:13.519 --> 00:22:16.359 During the course of this conversation. We got around to 351 00:22:16.400 --> 00:22:19.240 the clothes that he was wearing and he said, you know, 352 00:22:19.319 --> 00:22:21.400 I think this is what I was wearing that day. 353 00:22:22.480 --> 00:22:25.839 It's like, can we get that for you know, testing? 354 00:22:26.440 --> 00:22:29.160 And he said, well, I don't have anything else. I said, 355 00:22:29.480 --> 00:22:32.319 we'll take you to go buy clothes. We went and 356 00:22:32.440 --> 00:22:36.839 we bought them new shoes, new shirt. So he gave 357 00:22:36.920 --> 00:22:38.400 us permission to take his clothes. 358 00:22:39.440 --> 00:22:44.119 He considered himself smarter than the police, so that made 359 00:22:44.160 --> 00:22:45.200 him so careless. 360 00:22:46.480 --> 00:22:50.000 It was time for investigators to sit down and interview 361 00:22:50.079 --> 00:22:53.960 their prime suspect. They were certain of Jackson's movements on 362 00:22:54.000 --> 00:22:56.440 the day of the murder, but they wanted to hear 363 00:22:56.480 --> 00:22:57.960 it from the horse's mouth. 364 00:22:58.480 --> 00:23:01.480 During a course of our investigation, we put him down 365 00:23:01.519 --> 00:23:04.640 there where the van was burned. That was huge because 366 00:23:04.640 --> 00:23:07.599 he had a family member that identified him being down 367 00:23:07.839 --> 00:23:11.960 in Gibsonson. Why he lives in Sefner, Why would you 368 00:23:11.960 --> 00:23:16.119 be down in Gibsonson. So everything just started falling in. 369 00:23:16.240 --> 00:23:18.640 So we wanted to get him locked into a timeline 370 00:23:18.640 --> 00:23:21.200 as to where were you at, what were you doing, 371 00:23:21.599 --> 00:23:23.519 And we were able to do that, But we were 372 00:23:23.519 --> 00:23:26.119 also able to get him to give too many inconsistencies 373 00:23:26.160 --> 00:23:28.559 in his interviews. They could prove that he was lying, 374 00:23:28.759 --> 00:23:31.480 and he could not stick with the solid alibi because 375 00:23:31.480 --> 00:23:34.200 he didn't have one. 376 00:23:35.920 --> 00:23:38.599 Then all of the lies that he told law enforcement, 377 00:23:38.680 --> 00:23:41.119 the one thing he was consistent on was that he 378 00:23:41.160 --> 00:23:44.400 did not know kuk Trond, and they showed him photographs 379 00:23:44.440 --> 00:23:47.720 of her that were very good depictions of her in 380 00:23:47.759 --> 00:23:51.200 the year or two before her death, and he insisted, 381 00:23:51.400 --> 00:23:53.759 I don't know her, I don't know anything about her. 382 00:23:53.799 --> 00:23:57.640 I've never seen her before, even though she lived about 383 00:23:57.680 --> 00:24:01.519 five trailers down from his, and you could step out 384 00:24:01.559 --> 00:24:04.599 from the doors of those trailers and see the other 385 00:24:04.680 --> 00:24:07.599 trailer is how close he lived. Everybody insisted he'd never 386 00:24:07.640 --> 00:24:08.400 seen her before. 387 00:24:11.039 --> 00:24:14.519 It all as always going to I don't know nothing 388 00:24:14.519 --> 00:24:16.359 about this lady I ain't. 389 00:24:16.119 --> 00:24:16.960 Never seen before. 390 00:24:18.480 --> 00:24:22.720 He was obviously super confident that he'd obliterated all of 391 00:24:22.759 --> 00:24:25.599 the evidence and that he could sit and play games 392 00:24:25.640 --> 00:24:28.519 with the police, almost because they were never going to 393 00:24:28.640 --> 00:24:30.160 pin this one on him. 394 00:24:31.400 --> 00:24:35.000 We both believed that we had our guy after that 395 00:24:35.039 --> 00:24:38.079 first interview. We had our DNA that he gave us, 396 00:24:38.400 --> 00:24:42.000 We had the clothing that he gave us, and Troy 397 00:24:42.039 --> 00:24:45.079 and I got in the car and we drove from Carabelle, Florida, 398 00:24:45.200 --> 00:24:48.119 back to just north of Gainesville to meet up with 399 00:24:48.160 --> 00:24:51.319 one of the detectives from Pillsborough here who was meeting 400 00:24:51.400 --> 00:24:53.640 us halfway, so we could pass that off so they 401 00:24:53.640 --> 00:24:56.640