Speaker 1: Hey everyone, and welcome to Sasquatch Theory. Tonight's encounter takes
us from the remote wilderness of Alaska to the Mascalero
Apache Reservation in New Mexico. This story spans decades and generations.
Our guest, Kathleen, grew up hearing stories of the Hairy Man,
long before she ever questioned whether the legends could be
real or not. In the mid nineteen nineties, strange howls
and screams echoed through the Alaskan wilderness so loudly they
could be heard from inside the house. Years later, in
New Mexico, her family began experiencing something even stranger. Massive
figures seen near the road, foul odors outside the house,
fresh tree breaks, unexplained screams, tracks and fresh snow, and
encounters that left entire families sleeping together in fear. This
is a story of family memories, fear, mystery, and experiences
that stretched a r us, two states, and multiple generations.
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own personal Bigfoot encrypted encounters here on Sasquatch Theory. With
all that being said, let's dive straight into Kathleen's bigfoot
encounters from the state of Alaska and the reservation in
New Mexico. All right, Kat, welcome to Sasquatch Theory. How
are you doing today?
Speaker 2: I'm doing good.
Speaker 1: How are you doing excellent? Thank you so much for asking, Kat,
if you would tell me a little bit about yourself,
where you're from, and all your experiences that you've encountered
throughout your life.
Speaker 2: Hi, my name is Kathleen. I was born here in
New Mexico, but I was raised in Alaska Northwest Arctic region.
But I've been living here in New Mexico since twenty twelve. Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's truly amazing. When did you have your first
experience and what happened.
Speaker 2: I've been experiencing the first time I had an experience,
I actually heard it vocalizing. Remember growing up, we would
go to school up in Alaska and we would come
down during the summertime to visit family. It was during
the summer months that we were here, and I don't
remember the exact date, but I remember it was in
the mid nineties and I was just a little girl then,
and I remember I would be waking up to howl.
I would hear it cry, screaming, hollering, and it was terrifying.
I remember I would run to my mom and even
though we cover our ears, we could hear it over
covering our ears, and we would be crying for it
to stop it. It seemed like it would be going
on for like thirty minutes maybe, but it felt like
so long.
Speaker 1: That's scary. So you were covering your ears inside the
house and you could still hear the creature screaming and howling.
Speaker 2: It sounds like it was in the field across our house,
either in that field or it was up on the hill.
That field used to be really bushy like back then.
Speaker 1: Yeah. What do you think they were communicating?
Speaker 2: I don't remember. I was too small. I remember I
was really small. M hm.
Speaker 1: Did it sound like they were angry?
Speaker 2: Yes, sometimes the sonic it would be angry. Wow.
Speaker 1: And what did your people tell you about the hairy
man when you lived there? Were they good? Were they bad?
And what were the local legends?
Speaker 2: I just remember my grandma would always tell us not
to be going out that night and not to leave,
not to bother it, just to leave it alone. Yeah,
So as long as if you don't bother it. It
won't bother you.
Speaker 1: They were all well aware of the hairy man in Alaska.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Wow, And what what do they call it? What names
did they give the hairyman there?
Speaker 2: I don't know about New Mexico, but my dad was
telling me that word for it. It's just uh New
York just having long hair all over.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, that's truly frightening. What else unfolded after your
experience in Alaska when you were a little girl.
Speaker 2: Oh, actually, these experiences are on the reservation. I remember
one year when we were here on the reservation, my aunts,
two of my aunties, and my uncle went to the
casino and my parents were in the back room along
with my grandma. They already went to bed. My older
siblings were babysitting us with along with my cousins other kids,
and I remember I was talking about Disneyland with my
cousins and my little sister, and my aunt busted through
the front door and she was just frantic. She was
really like telling us to put on our shoes, and
she said she was My dad was asking her what's
going on. She was saying that she's seen it. They
seen it laying by the road, like not too far
from our house, and it had its knees up, it
was bent, and it was just laying by the road,
just down the road from our house. And so I
remember they took my grandma next door to my uncle's house,
and that time we went to my cousin's house and
we spent the night there because because the door is
back then on my grandma's the doorknobs they weren't really
that good, and so they didn't want us to be
sleeping there after seeing that creature.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so she was afraid it would try to come
into the house or terrorize you guys in the house.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I wonder why it was laying down.
Speaker 2: I don't know, And I just remember hearing her talking
about it, and it took a while for her to
calm down and tell my dad.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Did she say if it was massive or was
it more of a juvenile?
Speaker 2: She said it was huge. Its arms were really long,
the legs were really long, and it just it was
like laying in a ditch, like almost a ditchlight by
the road. It's right by the road. But I don't
know why.
Speaker 1: I wonder if it was waiting for animals to cross
the road like maybe it was hunting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of elk that cross right there too.
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, it was like in an ambush position. I'm
only theorizing, of course, but I'm trying to find a
logical answer as to why a sasquat should be laying
on the road. And also, you guys travel that road,
so that's scary because if you leave the house, you
never know if this thing is going to jump out.
Speaker 2: I think about that all the time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when you pass that spot, you're like, I wonder
if it's Yeah.
Speaker 2: I remember there was another time my cousin came to
visit and she brought some board games and she was
on her way home. She decided to go home, and
it got darker ready, and it didn't even take five minutes.
She came back knocking on the door, pounding on it
actually saying she's seen something run across the road in
front of her, right where my aunt seen it laying
down previously. And she said it just ran across the
road and she heard it like rushing through the brush,
like towards the creek in front of her. She turned
around really fast and she went straight to our house.
And I think we had to follow her home after that.
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, so they're definitely living close to the house
and possibly hunting local wildlife in the area. And what
were your thoughts and feelings in these moments when your
aunt came home told everyone to put on their shoes,
and when your cousin was pounding on the door. What
did you feel in that moment or in those moments.
Speaker 2: I just remember being scared. I knew immediately what you
were talking about. I just remember feeling scared just that
same I still get that same feeling to this day.
This is the fear.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And what's the name of the reservation? You don't
have to say it on the podcast if you don't
want to.
Speaker 2: I'm just curious, Misscleral, okay, Missclero Patchy, all right?
Speaker 1: And what else happened after that experience with your cousin
pounding on the door saying she saw she she heard
and saw creature across the road.
Speaker 2: There was another time where my sister, one of my
older sisters, were in the living room watching TV and
back then we didn't have We just had sheer curtains
on the windows, and it was hot that night, so
she opened one of the windows and she was sitting
near the window watching TV and she heard something by
the window and she looked and something was standing there
looking at her, and she said, it's it's dunk. So
she ran back through the back and she was like, mom, Dad,
something stinks outside. Something's outside, something's by the window looking
at me. So my older sister, my older sister, she
wasn't scared. She ran to the living room window and
she shut it. And the next day my dad went
outside to go check check around the house and they
say he's seeing the flower bed. It was flat right
where she was sitting by the window. All the flowers
right there were flat. Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so there was definitely something big there. And it
makes me wonder how often are these creatures looking through
people's windows, because that's a pretty common report, and it
just makes me wonder how many people have had this
experience but never knew that something was actually standing there.
It's a pretty eerie feeling if you really think about it. Yeah, Okay,
what else happened after that?
Speaker 2: I remember one year, I remember the year of this one.
It was ninety eight. That was a year my brother
accidentally took off his driver's side mirror. He accidentally hit
a poll in it just fell off. And I remember
we were going through the store one night and either
way we have to go. If we want to go
to Walmart, we have to drive about twenty thirty minutes,
so we were By the time we got out of
the store, it was already dark, and we're driving through
a place called Dark Canyon. It's really dark, and we're
on the lane nearest the median, and I remember there
was a semi truck coming. That was the only light
we could see. And there was a semi truck coming
and just when it was passing, we've seen something standing
in the on the median and it was so close
to the truck that all we seen was hair hit
the windshield and it was so close to the truck
that it made it swerve a little. And at first
my mom thought it was a trash bag, but as
years passed, I realized that it was hair. It was
long hair, and it was it reached to the middle
of the windshield, that's how long the hair was. And
my brother was like, did you see that? And he
wanted to turn around. My mom was like, no, just
keep going go home.
Speaker 1: Wow, why do you think the creature was just standing there.
Speaker 2: I think it was trying to cross because there's a
canyon just right there. There's mountains either side of that canyon.
I think I don't know why it was crossing, but yeah,
it looked like it was trying to cross m hm.
Speaker 1: And have you seen like other animals in the past
cross there as far as like elk me old deer,
things like that.
Speaker 2: Just elk and deer, So it's.
Speaker 1: Like it's like a natural crossing. Maybe it was hunting. Yeah,
maybe I've noticed the sasquatch that I encountered. They were
on the game trails, so I don't know if they're
hunting or if all the animals use specific trails.
Speaker 2: M hm. That was another story about talking about trails.
During the same year that we started hearing it around
the house in the nineties, we'd start hearing it whoop
from the hill up above our house, and my dad
and my uncle decided to hike the trail, the elk trail.
It's across from the Baptist church. We lived just right
down the road from a Baptist church, and so they
decided to hike the trail, and as they were going up,
they started seeing freshly broken tree limb was and it
was it was it was placed across like across the path,
and they grabbed it and the bottom it just looked
like it was fresh, and it looked like toothpicks, and
they were looking for where it came from, and they
saw it not too far from the path and the
break happened like a foot off the ground. So something
just barely just snapped it off. It wasn't it was
snapped off. It was a clean snap, about an inch
and a half in diameter, And so they put the
branch back and they hiked up all the way to
the top, and my dad was saying that they started
seeing scat up there, and both of them they're aviad hunters,
and they didn't know what animal it was coming from,
and they said it stunk really bad, and they were
trying to see if they could see anything he or anything,
but they didn't. They didn't that day, so they just
came back down.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's very interesting. And where I've heard vocalizations in
the past, I've went to investigate the same way your
your father did, and I would find tree structures and yeah,
broken trees, limbs, and it was all very fresh. So yeah,
that definitely makes sense. Your dad found the area where
this creature was whooping at and you could tell because
there was a sign in the area, and like you said,
it was snapping these limbs and these these saplings like toothpicks.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it sounds like they're definitely living around the
property and observing you guys. A lot of people have
claim that were their entertainment. It does seem like that.
They seem very interested in humans, and I feel like
life can get boring out there, so they like to
watch us. And I don't know, Okay, what else happened
after that.
Speaker 2: I remember I don't know if any other families do this,
but our family did. We would camp out in the
living room all the family. That night, we made a
big giant bed on the floor in the living room.
My grandma slept on the couch, and I remember it
was in the middle of the night that my uncle
and my cousin next door they called us. They called
from my late brother and my dad and they were seeing,
can you help us outside? Can you grab your flashlights?
I remember hearing that from my mom. She was talking
to my dad. My dad was telling her, and I
could hear it from far away, but I was still sleeping.
And this is where one of my first dreams that
I like mashed up with reality. I was dreaming that
they were chasing a bigfoot off of our property and
you can hear it skidding on the loose gravel, and
as it was running away, it was looking back and screaming.
And in real life I could hear them yelling at it.
It was like, I get out of here, and they
were chasing it with flashlights, but I was seeing that
in my dream as well, and as soon as it
hit the pavement, it was just making slapping noise, really
loud slapping noises, and it sounded like a herd of horses,
but it was just one being, and all that time
it was looking back and screaming. And years later, in
twenty twenty one, or before my brother passed, he told
his daughter about that story, and he told her exactly
what I saw in my dream. He said it was
the scariest night of his life when he had to
chase it off the property with my dad and my
uncle and my cousin. They chased it up until it
ran across the road and up on the hill where
my dad and I've seen that the scot and everything.
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, I've had similar dreams in the past where
what I'm dreaming is exactly what happened, like when I
woke up. And one example was my brother had his
friend over staying the night, and I had a dream
that his dad had a heart attack. And I woke
up and I even said to myself, oh, man, Robbie's
dad had a heart attack, Like it was such a
real dream. And I was just kind of confused and
like trying to convince myself that it was just a dream.
But I noticed the door was cracked in my room.
It was really dark in my room, but the door
was cracked and I could see light in the crack
and I could hear voices. So I got up to
see what was going on, and I saw my dad
standing in the living room with my brother and his
friend Robbie, and I asked him what's going on, and
my dad said, Robbie's dad had a heart attack and
we're taking him home. I just thought that was the
strangest thing because I dreamed it and woke up and
that's what was happening. But yeah, I definitely believe your dream.
So you were dreaming that they were chasing off this
sasquatch creature and it was screaming as it was running away,
And when you got up, what they experienced was pretty
much identical to what you were dreaming.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I found out years later when my brother
we told that story it was exactly how my dream was.
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, that's incredible. And in the Christian religion they
say that God will contact us through our dreams, visions.
You might hear a voice, have a feeling, et cetera.
And yeah, I mean when I had those experiences, I
was like, wow, that is I guess it's true, because
when you just hear something like that, it just sounds fabricated,
made up, like fantasy. But people are having strange dreams
that seem to align with reality. And in your culture,
is this a thing like being contacted through dreams, whether
by crypto creatures or the divine? Have you heard anything
about that through the natives or First Nations people?
Speaker 2: Yes, I have dreams all the time.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, and they seem to line up with what's happening. Yeah. Yeah,
dreams must be significant because there's like the Natives would
use like dream catchers. I'm not sure exactly what they're for,
but it seems like things can come into your dreams. Yeah, okay,
And yeah, the the slappy noise that the creature made
when his feet hit the pavement, that's pretty freaky. And yeah,
the fact, oh man, Yeah, that's scary. I can't imagine
how you felt hearing that and dreaming that. And they
experienced it when they were out there. So they really
were screaming at the creature and telling it to get
out that really.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were really yelling at it, yelling at it
to get out of here and everything.
Speaker 1: What experiences did he have prior to that before he
contacted your family and told him to grab the flashlights
and to come out there. What was happening before that?
Did you ever hear anything about what they experienced before
they went out there to chase off the creature.
Speaker 2: I don't remember that part, but I think it was
just outside they started chasing it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was either outside and similar to what was
experienced before that, like where it was laying in a ditch,
or it was like looking through the window, or like
I don't know, hitting the side of the house. It's
hard to say, but it was definitely on the property.
Speaker 2: We know that yeah, or it was by the creek.
We lived by a creek.
Speaker 1: Okay, So you got the game trail the creek, you
got forests around you, wildlife, you got a recipe for sasquatch.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Did you guys ever experience anything unexplainable there? I don't know.
I call it supernatural, Some people call it. I don't
know what they call it. But as far as like
orbs anything like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually have a video of an ORB on
the window camera, one of the window cameras. Yeah, I
don't see orbs.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: Okay, and I'll get into the the paranormal. I guess, yes,
I continue.
Speaker 1: What supernatural things have you experienced? And what science calls
is just unexplainable? What unexplained mysteries have you experience?
Speaker 2: It was June twenty twenty three, and it was just
me and my nephew, my two daughters, and my late
brother home, and we're all in the bo.
Speaker 1: With all that being said, let's dive straight into Kathleen's
Bigfoot encounters from the state of Alaska and the reservation
in New Mexico.
Speaker 2: Bedroom together and my brother was My brother was in
his own room and we're watching YouTube and my daughters
fell asleep and they were facing towards the east, and
they had their bunk in facing for the east, their
heads facing for the east. And so my nephew asked
if we could watch I could try not to laugh
video on YouTube, and we watched one video and as
the video was switching, when it got really quiet. From
behind me, I heard something whisper in my ear was
like Ama, and it sounded just like my older daughter.
But when I look back, there was nothing right there,
and I realized. I just realized that my daughter was
facing towards the other the opposite direction. And as I
was looking back and trying to figure out what I
just heard, my nephew turned to me. He was like,
you heard that too, and that's when I freaked out
and I thought he didn't hear it. And when I
grabbed his hand and I said a prayer. I said
a short prayer and that feeling of fear left. But
not even five minutes later, my brother calls to his
room and it was like, you guys, didn't hear that scream?
And we're like no, because we were watching TV already,
and he said something screamed outside and it sounded like
it was running towards a side the side it's up.
It's a neighborhood down the road from us, and it
was facing for the rest of us. And that's where
I heard that whisper and it sounded just like my
older daughter, and it sounded like he said, it sounded
like a woman screaming and running away.
Speaker 1: Wow. So at the same time that you had this
supernatural divine experience, there was cryptid activity taking place outside.
Do you feel like it was some sort of warning?
What are your thoughts about that.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I found it kind of freaky that
it was in my daughter's voice, my older daughter's voice,
and I really don't know what it was outside. I
know my brother had his window open, but he didn't
see anything. All he heard was the footsteps furning away.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've experienced similar. I wonder if it has anything
to do with shoot. I don't know what they call it,
like a dobble ganger. I can't remember what it is,
but it's like a lookalikem yeah, like it mimics people.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's freaky. Yeah, it was this freaky experience. That
was my first time. M hmm.
Speaker 1: I've had a few experiences like that. One time, I
was hanging out with my friend and his basement at
his place and we were playing place. I think we
were playing like Call of Duty or something, and there
was just me and him down there. Nobody else was
in the house. And I heard exactly it sounded just
like his sister, and the voice was in my ear.
I could feel the breath and it said Miguel, and
I turned and I looked over and I said what
as I was holding the PlayStation controller and there was
nobody there. That scared me because it sounded just like
his sister, and we were in a room. The door
was shut, there was nobody else in there, but I
heard a clear voice.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe it was a warning. I don't knowing nothing happened, but.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I have my own thoughts about that situation, but it's
just too hard to say. But in your case, it
does sound like it was warning you. When you heard
mama like there was a sasquatch out there screaming its
head off, And yeah, it definitely sounded like a was.
Speaker 2: I just remember feeling the fear, and I know my
nephew felt it too, and I prayed it your way
and after it left. That's when it screamed. Yeah, but
we didn't hear the scream because we were watching TV.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. It's always nice when you have somebody else
around you who experiences the activity, even if it's like
a pet, like if you have a dog and the
dog's reacting to what you heard. But when you experience
something like that by yourself, it really makes you question
your own sanity. But yeah, it's good that you had
your nephew there to be like, did you hear that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it took me a while to realize when I
was hearing it. And he just grabbed his head and
started praying.
Speaker 1: And is it just like a prayer that you made
up in the moment, or do you have like a
certain prayer to a ward off evil?
Speaker 2: It was just like I was just I grew up
praying praying household. I just praid the fear away and
like any kind of false spirit to leave this property
in Jesus name. And I just said a simple prayer
like that, and not even five minutes later, soon I
Rother heard the screen because his window was open.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for me, that's an important clue because I definitely
believe this phenomenon as far as the cryptids is tied
into the supernatural, but I mean other people who are
more take a more scientific approach, they would say, you know,
that's just a coincidence. But yeah, for me, I feel
like the Sasquatch their spiritual beings. What are your thoughts
about that and what are your beliefs about the crypto creatures.
Speaker 2: I believe they're spiritual beings, and I believe the young
ones are in training to be spiritual. That's why they're
like mainly tricksters or trouble make and they get scolded
by the older ones.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and no doubt they're physical creatures, like they're getting
into people's trash cans, they're hunting elk and deer. They
leave tracks and leave signed behind. As far as tree structures, glyphs,
broken branches, they make audible vocalizations. They're definitely real creatures,
real physical creatures. But there seems to be something else
beneath it, and I believe it's the supernatural. Science says
it's just something that we can't explain, and there's got
to be a plausible explanation to why people are seeing
the orbs. And I just feel like they're dismissing the supernatural.
And that's why they're not getting anywhere with it, because you,
at some point you have to acknowledge that there is
a spiritual realm, there are other realms, and I don't know,
people just relabel things as far as like calling something
mind speak when all along there's been the term telepathy,
it's the same thing. Or I don't know, they do
redubbed things, if that makes sense.
Speaker 2: My dad's always saying something like, it's more real than
the spirit. What we can't see is just as real
as what we can see.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with that, and I feel like the
spiritual realm is more it's a lot more real than
our world. If anything, we're kind of living like in
a matrix that's not as in depth as the spiritual realm. Yeah,
And what transpired after you heard the voice and there
was the creature outside screaming.
Speaker 2: I don't remember anything that happened. Nothing major happened, just
the scream.
Speaker 1: But later on in your life what else unfolded? Days later,
years later, you had that video of the eyes that
you sent me. Can you tell me about the eyes?
Speaker 2: Oh, it was June or January three, just this past
January into twenty twenty six, and I remember that date
because I was one of the the nights that the
Seahawks played, and my mom was really texting me, like
the Seahawks is touch down. You're gonna come watch? And
I was like, okay, wait, mom, And I remember the
My room was hot that that evening and it just
got dark and I was gonna I got up to
close my window, my little bedroom window, and I noticed
what looked like ice coming from across the creek, and
I tried to capture it on my my phone, but
it couldn't pick it up for some reason. So I
called my niece over to my window and I was like,
can your phone pick this up? With those eyes? There's
there's they look like eyes across the creek, And that's
when she started recording, recording, and and you can see
in the video that we didn't know what we're looking
at at first. And I grabbed my flashlight and it
turns like into a spotlight, and once we once I
shine the light on it, I can see black, like
the silhouette of a black being. And that's what you
can see. My my hands started shaking because I knew
what I was looking at. And I was really trying
to be brave holding the flashlight, but you can clearly
see how I was shaken up. And I remember we
recorded it for a little like a couple of minutes
and it was still looking at us when we decided
to close the window, and I showed my dad and
he ended up telling me that he's seen the same
eye eye shine from in that area three nights before,
on December thirty first, like during the same time, like
around five six pm.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, Yeah, so whatever it is, it's been showing
up around the same time, the same the same time frame.
So yeah, I saw the video that you shared. It's
really high off the ground. The eyes are really far,
far apart. That's scary.
Speaker 2: Right where it's standing, there's like a ball shape. It's
like kind of deep too, So whatever that was was
pretty tall.
Speaker 1: Okay, So you've had a lot of experiences around your house,
on the property and in nearby areas. What do you
think are the sasquatches and tensions. Do you think they're evil?
Do you think they're bad? Do you think they're guarding
you guys? Because if they could have, if they wanted
to hurt you guys, they easily could have.
Speaker 2: I think they just like to watch us as like
you said, they're just curious. Even though my grandma used
to tell us not to bother it, it still shows
up and bothers us around the house.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And I've heard Native Americans call them the watchers,
and that seems to be true. Like they're always observing
campers and watching people through their windows. They're outside in
the woodline, just just watch. And could it just simply
be curiosity or are they up to something?
Speaker 2: I think they're pretty curious. I like it's like we're
they're television.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we really are, and they possibly want to get
into something, whether it's our trash cans we leave food
outside and maybe we're unknowingly attracting these creatures. Maybe there's
an apple tree out in the yard. Who knows. Yeah, Okay,
And you could see the silhouette from the creature when
you saw the eye shine, is that correct?
Speaker 2: Yes? Wow, you could actually see black being black.
Speaker 1: A lot of the eye shine that I've seen, I
couldn't see a silhouette, so it's hard to say what
it was. But in my earlier days, when I originally
had my encounters in twenty nineteen, I saw the eyes shine,
but like when I'd shine the light into the woods,
like it wouldn't penetrate into the woods. You can just
see the eyes glowing. And one of the sets of
eyes rose up to about ten feet plus like an elevator.
It was scary.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: But yeah, then again they were just watching. I don't
know what they're like, what they were up to. I
know there was like a few foxes in the yard
and they were like crying out like a fox in
distress call. So I feel like it attracted the sasquatch
that they came in to see what was going on.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: And you said that happened like to your father in December,
and to you it happened in January twenty twenty six.
Does it get really cold there in New Mexico? Does
it stay the same temperature year round?
Speaker 2: It gets pretty cold during the winter months as low
as the twenties. Yeah, probably the teens, okay.
Speaker 1: And the other experiences that you've had in the past.
Can you recall there in the spring, the summer, the
fall time.
Speaker 2: The main ones in the nineties happened during the summertime.
In the two thousands, early two thousands and the early
twenty tens happened in the summertime because I didn't live
here yet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it sounds like these creatures are around the
property year round and they're possibly migrating from maybe one
county to another and using these game trails, and for
some reason they like to stop by your place.
Speaker 2: Yeah. My grandma mentioned that she would hear activity that
year round because she used to live in that house
by herself. Well, my uncle was next door, but she
lived in that house by herself.
Speaker 1: Wow, and that's pretty wild. Do you experience activity in Alaska?
You'd hear these creatures howling and screaming, And then when
you moved to New Mexico or you moved back to
New Mexico, you're experiencing more activity.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I remember there was one time my parents had
some friends in Arizona. They would come visit during the
Fourth of July because we used to have They used
to come over for the Fourth of July. Even there
was a rodeo and everything. That's what they enjoyed with
their two granddaughters. And the last year they came, they
slept in a pop up tent. They decided to sleep
right next to the creek, and my grandma was warning there, like,
you should sleep closer to the house, you might hear something.
I'm warning you right now, you should sleep too near
the house, not by the creek. And sure enough, that
night something picked up their their popped up tent slowly
and slowly put them back down. And the next morning
they were all freaking out and my Grandma's like, I
told you, I tried to warn you, But ever since then,
they haven't. That was the last time they came Wow,
after they experienced that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure that was a terrifying experience for them.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds like they didn't appreciate them camping next
to the creek and possibly that's where they're living at
where they want to be at.
Speaker 2: Yeah, in that area, that's where it's mainly it goes
because it's right across from the driveway, the pavement driveway,
and you just walk straight and you just make it
right to the creek.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I know you said you're a Christian, but do
you guys still hold your old beliefs from the Native Americans, Like,
do you guys utilize any of that information anymore? I mean,
it's your culture, it's where you came from. But what
beliefs do you still carry to this day that your
people told you about as far as cryptids or anything supernatural.
Speaker 2: I just know I was always told just to respect
them and they'll respect you. We're really big on respect
on either part of my culture apache and you back,
respect is a big part of our culture.
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, that definitely makes sense. And I've heard nay
have call them the guardians of the forests, and they're
kind of the police officers of the woods. So if
you're doing something wrong, they're going to let you know
about it.
Speaker 2: And I believe that they know if you're good or bad.
They just watch you all the time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe that. And it sounds like they hung
around the house because you guys are good people. They
trusted you guys, and they felt safe to be around
you guys compared to other people in the area.
Speaker 2: I don't know too much of other people's experiences on
the reservation, right We've been experiencing pretty a lot since
the nineties here, And I remember in Christmas two thousand
and five, we actually went here and it just snowed,
and I asked my younger sister if she wanted to
go outside. We had nothing to do, and I wanted
to just be outside in the snow, and right next
to our house there's an apple tree. Right next to
the apple tree, I seen really big quot prints and
they were facing towards the front door. And I ran
to my sister and I told her what I seen.
So we both decided to follow the trail. You could
see it turn around in the snow, and it was
walking in a straight line. It wasn't walking It looked
like it wasn't walking too fast, but it was in
a straight line and it made like a a U
turn and it went through the yard in front of
our house. There's a blue spruce tree, and it stopped
right there and it turned towards the house, and that
right where it turned. It it's facing towards the back
porch and you can see it make another U turn
and it went. It walked all the way down the
field on our property. We followed it all the way
down into my uncle's yard and at the fence. At
the fence line is when we stopped because it got
quiet and we felt like we're being watched, and so
we just calmly walked back. But that's what we've seen
that morning.
Speaker 1: Wow. That's pretty intense. How big do you think the
tracks were?
Speaker 2: They were huge, probably about fifteen to seventeen inches. Really,
why too? Back then we didn't have a camera or
anything to measure it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, giant teens.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Wow. What year did you say that happened? Then?
Speaker 2: Christmas two thousand and five?
Speaker 1: Okay, two thousand and five, I wrote down twenty twenty five,
my bad. And do you find yourself staring out the
window looking for these creatures, like leaving your house and
looking into the woodline, wondering where they are?
Speaker 2: Yes, all the time, like ooh, what if I see
it run across right here? I would remember all these
stories and ooh what if I see it?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Absolutely, And I think that's why I.
Speaker 2: Said I've actually seen it before.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that's why certain people have more experiences,
because once you know they're there, you've seen them or
you've found evidence you're looking for them, So you're having
more experiences later down the road because you're not just
oblivious to it, like most people who hear something and say, oh,
that was just an hour, that's probably people out in
the woods, and or they don't even acknowledge it, like
it doesn't register through their brain.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Wow, do you ever leave anything for the sasquatch? Like,
have you ever put any apples out there or try
to talk to them or interact with them in any
sort of way.
Speaker 2: Well, like I said, we have an apple tree right
next to our host. We have a pear tree in
the back of our house. We have an apricot tree
next to the apple tree. And just last year, last October,
there was still apples in the tree, and we noticed
there was a pile of white mushrooms that were they
were underneath a part of the tree that where the
apples were gone. One whole side of the tree. All
the apples were gone, and there was just a pile
of white mushroom, really big white mushrooms.
Speaker 1: Wow. So they left you guys a gift. Essentially, they
traded with you guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I figured.
Speaker 1: Yeah, where I had my encounters, we had a pear
tree and it would usually be loaded with pears, and
maybe that's why they were around. I think it was
two years ago. It was full of pairs, and I thought,
it just needs another two weeks then it'll be ready
for me to to take a few pairs because I
had already tried them and they were they're a little bitter.
So I just waited and shortly after that, every single
pair was gone, and it just blew my mind. I'm like, man,
the raccoons, Like, there's no way they could eat that
many pairs in one single night.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I wonder if it was a sasquatch.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the pear trees right next to the woodline where
I've seen them before.
Speaker 2: Wow. My mom noticed the mushrooms and she was wondering
how they were so big, because the one we get
from the store or it's just like half the size
of that. Those mushrooms we've seen, you're probably both the
size of the apples. Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm curious as to what type of mushrooms they were.
Speaker 2: I have a video of it. I don't know, they're
just white. Yeah, they were taste on the ground.
Speaker 1: It might be important to find out which ones what
type of mushrooms they were, and if people ever try
to like gift in the future, leave them food and
it'll be important to use those specific types of mushrooms
and maybe they'll get more interaction with them.
Speaker 2: Okay, there was another time that we had a party.
This was back into the two thousand somewhere. We just
had a party and my sister and I, my younger
sister and I, we usually sit on the back porch
when it's nice and cool at night, and there was
an aluminum pan full of leftover meat, leftover bones and fat.
They were all in that aluminum pan, and they was
on the porch, the back porch with us, and we
were really talking and laughing away, and it got dark
on us and we did the same thing. We were like,
you know, what if it's watching us, because we were
felt like we were being watched, and so we ran
inside it and we went to our room. Our window
was open, and we heard a rustling noise, so we
checked that whole pan was gone, and my younger sister
went to the restroom and she came back. By the
time it came back, we heard the same rustling noise,
and we looked out the window and that pan was back. Right,
we're in the same spot, and we didn't want to
check that night to see if it was empty, but
we waited till the next morning, and sure enough, the
whole thing was empty. There was not one piece of
bone or anything left in that pan, So it was
probably watching us, waiting for us to move so we
can get a pan of goodies.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it does sound like it. And did your family
ever talk with any other families on the reservation and
ask them if they've experienced activity as well?
Speaker 2: Yes, just not too long ago, just a couple of
days ago. I was talking to my mom about what
I'm going to be doing on here, and she was
telling me her stories, and we were talking about all
these stories. And that morning tribal maintenance came and one
of the guys I stopped us and my mom told
them what we're doing. We're talking about bifferent And he
ended up saying where he lives is deeper into the
mountains and he says there's a family of a family
of Tasquatch living in near his property. And he says
there's big ones, little ones, and really small baby ones,
and there would be outside on his property and he
said he just wouldn't bother them.
Speaker 1: Wow, I wonder if it's the same family group that
you guys have encountered.
Speaker 2: Maybe, because that's pretty close to where, not too close,
but a couple of mountains over.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that wouldn't be too far away for a sasquatch
to travel around. But also there could be different family
groups in the same area as far as like cousins
and uncles and other siblings. Maybe they split off and
make their own families.
Speaker 2: And there's a place on top there's watch towers in
the mountains. In one by one of the watch towers,
people would see a family of it living near in
those in the area, because I guess they would be
part be up there, and they they would see a
big one, a little one, and a really small one
walk out of the tree line and look at them
and walk back into the tree line, and it was
seen by multiple people up there.
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, that's absolutely incredible. Did your family ever hunt, like,
did they go elk hunting? And I don't know outdoor activities.
Speaker 2: Yes, my dad used to hunt a lot as you
grew up in Alaska. My uncle is a hunter, my
cousin is a hunter. My late brother actually hunted a
lot too, both down here and up there in Alaska.
Speaker 1: I feel like hunters unknownly interact with the sasquatch when
they're sitting out there for hours or just hunting game
species in general, or even fish, and sometimes the sasquatch
will follow you back home.
Speaker 2: I remember my dad just told me yesterday that they
were hunting one time in Alaska and they wanted to
conserve gas, so they decided to turn the motor off
and just started floating down the river and on the hill.
He said, there was something tall and black just looking
at them floating by.
Speaker 1: I think, wow, Yeah, that's incredible. And yeah, the fact
that other family members have encountered the sasquatch in the
area and they have seen them, like you said, multiple people,
that's truly extraordinary. And I just feel like these creatures
want to be left alone, but sometimes they interact with
people and they get caught out in the open. But
up in Alaska, I hear that the sasquatch aren't as friendly,
and it could be due to the fact that they're
not as acclimated as a sasquatch or like out here
in the Lower forty eight they're used to seeing people,
but up there in Alaska they're not as used to
people as they are here, so maybe they get a
little bit more grumpy more that it's just a completely
different plan a sasquatch up there, and a completely different
mindset or a different type of Sasquatch. It's hard to say.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I always thought Bigfoot wasn't in Alaska when I
was growing up, but come to find out it actually wasn't.
They I think we actually heard it howling. It was
in the late nineties, and back then, my mom had
a sleepover the school. She was a third grade teacher,
and that night my dad told scary stories and big
Foot stories and he played them vocalizations from the Beer
Furrow website. And next day I, me and my younger
sister and my cousin were walking home and my parents
were still cleaning up the classroom and we're in the
middle of going home, and it was really quiet that morning,
like the whole town was quiet. There was nobody out.
It was about eight thirty nine o'clock in the morning,
and I remember it was wintertime and there's a dump
site on the outskirts of town and on the west
side of the town, and on that side we started
hearing something howling. It did it three times, and it
was just really loud. We thought it was the siren
going off because there's like a curfew siren, but it
wasn't coming from that part of the town. It was
coming from the dump area and it was just like ooo.
And then when it stopped, it was like oohoo like that,
and it did that three times. By the third time,
we were running home and all those dogs that are
near in the neighborhood, like just not too far from
the dumps, they started barking. They started barking hard. And
when I told my mom that story, she ended up
telling me there was one lady walking to work. She
worked at the school, and there's a road where there's
no roads in the town, just boardwalks, and she was
walking to work on the boardwalk. It's not too far
from the dumps, and she looked towards the dump area
and she said she's seen a big man and all
black looking through that trash. And I thought that was freaky.
And I always thought sasquatch wasn't up there in Alaska.
I thought I was. I thought we were a big
quit free.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is scary. And the way you describe the
vocalizations is very similar to audio recordings that I've heard
in the past. And Yeah, I've wondered if these things
would get into dumps and look for food, because just
the smell of it, I feel like it would attract
all kinds of predators. Yeah, then your grandmother seeing something
like a huge man in there just solidifies everything. That's
definitely what it was.
Speaker 2: There was one time. It was in the nineties as well,
and back then my aunt was a teacher and her
husband was a teacher as well, and they lived on
outskirts of town and sometimes they would have to walk
to work and it would be dark, and my uncle
was in front of her holding the flashlight, and my
aunt was walking behind him. And I don't know if
he was walking, like stepping on the footprints or beside it,
or guiding her like away from the footprints. But when
they reached the boardwalks, he said he was seeing really
huge footprints on the boardwalk. It was just beginning to
get frosty, and he thought it was really weird. And
I don't know if he was stepping on the footprints
or guiding her away from the footprints. But my mom
said late not too long after that, he got really sick.
He couldn't even get out of bed anything, and come
to find out he had walking pneumonia. So I don't
know if it was related to that incident or not. Yeah,
of the footprints in the snow.
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's a possibility. When you first described
it made me wonder if he got hit by infra sound,
But since he had walked pneumonia, it's hard to say
what happened there. But you never know there could be
a connection.
Speaker 2: M I was always told not to step in there,
not to step in the footprints, because my grandma would
tell me, don't step anymore. You're gonna dream about it
or you're gonna see it, And so she would always tell.
Speaker 1: Me, yeah, it could be a possibility.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Okay, And do you plan on doing any research in
the future, just hiking trails to look for them, or
do you think they should just be left alone and
you don't want anything to do with them?
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. In reality, I don't even have to leave
my house. They come near our house too. But ever
since we put up the the cameras, there's one in
my bedroom, the one I recorded out of the little window,
and we put one in the living room window. They're
both facing where is the creek. Ever since then we
haven't seen anything. But I actually had a dream about that,
Like shortly after putting up the second camera, I was
dreaming that right where we've seen the eye shine. In
that area, there was a portal right there and it
looked like a portal from Minecraft. I don't know if
you ever seen those, but they but it was an
oval shaped portal and it was really big and it
was dark gray and it looked staticky, and there was
a lot of bigfoot walking out of there. And what
freaked me out was the little one because I haven't
seen those before. They were not even that tall, probably
like three or four feet, and there was big ones
and little ones. The biggest one walked out of that
portal and it was huge and it had gray hair.
It looked like it had a long gray beard and
just gray all over its body. And it was the
biggest one and I could see it in detail, the
face and everything. It looked like a man. It didn't
have any face on its hair, but it had face
around it, I mean hair around it. And I actually
heard it talking in my dream, like the samurai talk,
and it was pointing towards the cameras in the living
room in my bedroom. It was pointing to the camera
where it was faced, and it was pointing to the
group it was with. And I can't even I can't
even do the samurai talk. It was just like, oh,
like really deep, really deep guttural voice talking. And I
figured that it was telling them that we have to
leave this place, this area, We have to move down
the stream, and we can't be seen on camera. And
it was getting after the ones that almost got caught
on camera. And I actually have a video of of
something like a shadowy being or something on the top
the top of the head that passed my bedroom window camera.
And I have a video of of a shadow near
our truck and it looked really tall. But in my dream,
they started packing up their things. They started packing up
their things that they stole from people's yards. They stole
a lot of clothes, cans, They started picking up the
little one was starting to pick up toys that they
stole from little kids. They picked up blankets, stuffed animals
like toys, and they were just gathering their things and
they started walking downstream. And whoever live by the creek downstream,
you can just hear them screaming because they were just
seeing a group of sasquatch walk through their property. And
whenever the families were screaming, they were just screaming back
at them. And that's when I woke up. I remember,
I woke up crying, and I haven't heard that before.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's really I wonder if there's a family down
the road that's experiencing activity.
Speaker 2: Now maybe it's my guess, but I noticed ever since then,
it wouldn't come to the front of the house. There's
more activity in the back of the house, where there's
no cameras and where it's more dark. Yeah, there's not
too long after that. Yeah, in May, my parents were
bedroom window. Bedroom is near the back porch, and early
in the morning, my mom gets up and gets ready
for dialysis, and my dad was still in bed, and
his bed is right next to the window. And he
said he started hearing something on the back porch, like rumbling,
and he didn't know what it was. He thought it
was my mom getting ready, so he paid no attention
to it. He waited till daylight and he opened a
blind and there was a table right next to his window,
and he said it was moved. He said, whatever that
was moved the window and trying to open his window,
I mean hit the table. He tried to move the
table and tried to open his window. I thought that
was pretty freaky.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is really freaky, and your dream's not too
far out there. A lot of people have theory eyes
that these creatures are utilizing portals and coming in from
other dimensions to gather resources, whether it's gathering food, killing deer,
or whatever they need, and they go back to wherever
they come from. It's a plausible explanation because we don't
find bones. People have found tracks in snow that just
seemed to disappear. They see and witness the ore herbs
appearing and disappearing along with bigfoot activity. That's not an
isolated event where people just see orbs. I mean, it
can be a lot of times it is, but there
are times where people see these orbs along with hearing woodenknocks,
trees being pushed over, whoops, vocalizations, finding tree structures, et cetera.
Speaker 2: Ever since putting up the cameras, it's all I see
is orbs now mainly in the front area.
Speaker 1: And do you guys ever hear like metal banging out
in the woods. A lot of people say that's associated
with the portal.
Speaker 2: I actually heard that a couple of weeks ago. It's
just like playing like two times, and that's all I
heard and it was late at night, and I don't
know what I heard, but it sounded like it was
near the creek where I seen that eye shine. Wow.
Speaker 1: And do you hear what knocks around the property often?
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, not too often, but we would hear whoops,
a lot of woo whooping sounds. Yeah, it was one
time in twenty twenty three. I was outside talking on
the phone and my niece went inside and I was
outside by myself, and while I was on the phone,
I heard one single whoop near the creek and I
thought it was a drunk person because it sounded like
a really big man. And I thought I was going
to hear a drunk person start yelling, but it was
just that one time. It was just like whoop and
then nothing else. So I just inside after that.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And did you guys put curtains over the windows
after those incidents?
Speaker 2: Yes? Actually, but the windows, all the windows blackout curtains.
Speaker 1: M Yeah, I don't blame it.
Speaker 2: Bedroom, my daughter's bedroom, the living room, they all have
blackout curtains.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm sure that helps deter the sasquatch, along with
the trail cameras. And I mean it's hard to say,
if it pushes them to the next county over, but
it definitely keeps them at bay, keeps them from coming
up closer.
Speaker 2: Because before we put up the cameras, we'll get handprints
all the time on my bedroom window and my daughter's
bedroom window, only on our windows, nowhere else in the house.
And I was wondering, why is it. It's probably attracted
to women and children, as I've heard before, but I
have pictures of a really big conference. And there was
one time that it actually broke my little bedroom window.
It was about four o'clock in the morning. I heard
a pop on my window, and I didn't check because
I was really tired that that time. So I went
back to sleep, and it was January, and so it
was really cold when I woke up, and I was
wondering why I woke up really cold, and I opened
the curtain and my window was pushed in and it
was barely hanging on. And I ran to my dad
right away, and I didn't even to take a picture
of it how it looked, because I just ran straight
to my dad. I was just like, I just gasped
and I ran to my dad and he fixed it
right away. But I have pictures of the the fingerprints
or it pushed it in and it's like holding onto
the corners and you can see the hand that pushed
it in.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, yeah, you'll have to send that to me.
Did you notice anything unusual about the handprint, like was
it really greasy? Looking into the dermal ridges.
Speaker 2: The fingers are really long and they look dirty greasy
because it left the good, good and good imprint on
the window, like really clear.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And do you anticipate more activity to take place
in the future.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm pretty sure it'll keep coming around because
we do live by a creek and it's always getting
stocked up with fish by the tribe. There's always fish
in that creek.
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, I would Yeah, I would bet they're going
to come back, especially if there's running water consistently in
the creek. It has fish and you got apple trees
and yeah.
Speaker 2: Plus we don't have any dogs at the moment, just
the cat.
Speaker 1: Well, definitely pay attention to the cat and how it
reacts to anything around. I feel like the cat would
start acting a little finicky if these creatures were outside
in the yard.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I actually have a little story about that. I
don't know if it's Bigfoot related. But I remember it
was last year during the eclipse one night, it was
during the springtime, and our cat escaped and he he
ran across the creek during the around the area where
we had that seen the eye shine, and he was
gone for how many hours? And we're about to go
inside because it was about to get stormy. We could
see the clouds coming in and it was starting to
get windy, and I mean, as a joke, I called out.
I was like, big Foot, please give us back our cat.
We need our cat. Chubs, please don't hurt them. I
was saying that, and we were laughing, and not even
five minutes later, we started hearing chubs. His name is Chubbs.
We started hearing chubs meow and from far away on
the other side of the creek, and he ended up
popping out right where the ice shine was. Then he
jumped across the creek t us and just when we
went inside, the storm just it went crazy that night.
I'm glad he went inside, But I don't know if
that was big Quick related. And later on I would
say to my nieces and my nephews, like, oh, what
if he was just holding chubs and heating him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's possibility. You never know. One of my friends
I was having sightings behind his house in the National Forest.
We were there one day and the sasquatch came up
right when it got dark, and they were doing loud,
powerful wood knocks all around the house in the woodline,
and I was trying to experience more activity. So I
was standing right there at the edge of the yard,
right in front of the woods, and I hear something
coming at me, something on all fours. I'm like, oh
my gosh, there's a sasquatch or something coming out of
the woods, because we know they were in there. His
dog came out of the woods and he looked really happy.
He was wagging his tail. And that's the only thing
with the ear eyes was the sasquatch befriended his dog
and they were out there hanging out with each other.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: But for sure there was a sasquatch out there. I mean, loud,
powerful wood knocks. Sounded like somebody took a wooden baseball
bat and was hitting it against trees. And it wasn't
like deep in the woods. It's right there in the woodline.
There was three of them.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: But yeah, the fact that his dog came out of
the woods where they were. It just made everything concrete,
like they're hanging out with your dog.
Speaker 2: Before I remember in two thousand and eleven, I think
the house was getting renovated. So we had all the
furniture on the back porch and there was sheets covering
all the furniture and one of the cats just had kittens.
There were outdoor cats back then, and I remember there
was one kitten that kept coming around to my younger
sister and I and we went out to eat that
evening and by the time we came back, it was
already dark and we're gonna check on the kitten and
on the back porch, and because it was the only
one that was coming up to us, and my dad
was the first one to go outside, and he turned
around right away and he was mad, and he got
a Walmart bag. He's like something something killed that kitten.
It was on the on the one of the steps
on the back porch, and it was flat, flat as
a pancake. There was no blood at all. The whole
kitten was flat. And my dad got mad. I remember
he got mad and he started yelling to the darkness.
It was he was on the lawn and he was
yelling to the darkness, leave us alone. We didn't bother you.
We don't bother you. Leave us alone. What do you
want from us? I remember he was yelling like that,
and I think because of that that time, I think
that's why it didn't bother our current cat.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I wonder if they intentionally killed the cat or
if they accidentally stepped on it and felt bad about
it and brought it to the porch.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe I was thinking it probably accidentally stepped on it.
Speaker 1: M Yeah.
Speaker 2: There was no blood at all. It was just completely flat.
It was so sad.
Speaker 1: I wonder if you ever, because you said you're a gamer,
if you ever like set up your TV and your
system outside and play games outside. I know you said
you like to play like Overwatch, Call of Duty things
like that. I wonder if that would attract the Sasquatch
and I don't I feel like they've never seen anything
like that before.
Speaker 2: That's a good idea. I've actually put it on the
back porch before. But my nephew did that too, and
he used to come over and game. You used to
actually do that a lot, too, But I don't know
if there was anything that came over to watch them play.
But I remember summer twenty twenty four, I was actually
playing a game on my PlayStation and I had my
little window was cracked a little bit. I remember that.
I know there was monsters in my game, but I
had one ear muff off of my ear. It was
the ear that was like closest to my little window,
and just when it got quiet, I heard a single grunt,
like it was really deep grunt right outside my little window.
And I paused, and I froze, and I was calling
my nephew who was in the next room and telling
him what I heard. And as I was telling him,
not even five minutes later, it something walked around the
corner from my bigger bedroom window and it scratched the
top of the window. And at the top it's really
high up. It's about eight feet tall on the top
of the window, and it was so loud to scratch
that my friend that I was playing with he heard
the scratching on the window, and I know it wasn't
now a branch or anything, because the little tree that
was right there, it's more towards the left and it's
away from my bedroom window, so I don't know what
we heard, and I thought that was kind of freaky.
And I don't know if the sounds from them the
game was attracting it because the game was actually called
The Forest.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, Yeah, it very well could be. I know
you said you listen to sasquatch theory while you're gaming,
so that's pretty cool. Yeah, I've heard in the past. Yeah,
I've heard in the past. I don't know how true
it is, Like other reservations and in the United States
have large amounts of missing people. Is that a thing
in New Mexico or there are a lot of missing
people in the reservation?
Speaker 2: Not really, But I remember hearing a story from my
dad that he was talking to one of his friends
around on the reservation and there was a crash that happened,
and I don't think the guy made it, but the
lady did. And I think she got taken because they
couldn't find her body anywhere. And I think they think
that Bigfoot took her and left the guy because they
couldn't find her body anywhere. She was gone.
Speaker 1: Wow. I wonder why they chose her like what they wanted.
I don't know if she made them upset or if
they just wanted her in particular.
Speaker 2: Maybe her. I think they're more curious about women and children,
because there were a lot of times that we were
being watched. There was one time and spring twenty twenty four,
it was spring break and we have our basketball room
outside and my niece and my nephew, my two daughters
were shooting hoops outside and me and my daughters decided
to go inside to start making dinner. And before that
we were we went to my bedroom and was looking
at watching them from my bedroom window because they were
still outside. And from where we were looking from the
bedroom window, right by the creek, there's an old doghouse.
Right below that doghouse. There was something standing right there,
something black, just looking towards my niece and my nephew,
and that was still outside shooting hoops. And at first
we thought it was a tree stump, but there's no
tree that's right there. It was really still watching them,
and not even ten seconds later they ran inside. My
niece and my nephew. They said they've seen it. They
seen it, We've seen it, always seen. It was big
legs running away. It ran across the creek and it
went in through the bushes. We could hear the trees wrestling.
I was like, oh, it was probably what we've seen
standing right there. It wasn't too big, but it was
big enough. It was tall enough to where we can
see it from my bedroom window. I thought that was pretty.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it certainly is. And it definitely sounds like they're
interested in the women and the children for some reason,
whether I don't know, I hate to say, whether they
want to take them or if they they're more compassionate
towards like children women like women are more gentle than
men and children maybe the juveniles can relate to but
it's hard to say. Yeah, well, you'll have to have
your camera ready the next time. Maybe you can capture
one of these things on film. I feel like you
have a really good shot, especially since they're living around
the property and they've been known to come up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll try to move around the cameras just see
if we could see anything. Yeah, because right now it's
still in the same spot bedroom window and the living
room window. I haven't like moved it around. We just
have two cameras right now.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, see if that changes things up. I'm sure
if you switch one of the cameras like you said,
you might capture something, you might throw them off because
maybe they're looking through a window that isn't near the camera. Okay,
is there anything else you can think of? Any other
strange experiences?
Speaker 2: My dad actually told me a story about his great
great grandpa grandpa's brother. Back then in the village there
was anything to eat, so the men would go out
stolo hunting and fishing. And at that time he was
fishing and he had a fish wreck and he would
whenever he has he would put it on the fish
rack to start drying. And he started noticing the choice
parts of the fish were being taken, and he didn't
like that, so he decided to stay up one night
and see what's been taking his fish. And sure enough,
it was middle of the night and he saw what
looked like a hand reaching towards the fish rack and
it was feeling around to see if there was any fish,
but there wasn't, and as its arm was up, my
dad's great great grandpa's brother, he had a bow and
arrow and he shot it right on the underarm and
he heard it grunt, and he heard it like walking away,
and it was walking into the thickets and up there
in the last there's a lot of willows. And he
said he heard it walking through the thicket until he
couldn't hear it anymore, and so he waited until it
was five o'clock, six o'clock in the morning when it
started getting bright, and he wanted to follow to see
what he killed because he didn't know what it was.
And he said, he's seen a blood trail, and he
followed the blood trail into the thicket and he saw
something laying on the ground and he said it wasn't
too big. He was about six or seven feet, but
he was circling it. He didn't want to get close
to it. But he said he had hair all over
all over its body, all over its hands, all over
its face. It was hairy all over and it was
just laying there dead. He killed it, and that's what
my dad was saying.
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, wow, And does he believe it
was a sasquatch creature?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's where the name came from. New York. It's
like long hair. It's long hair all over. And the
weird part is after that happened, it's like the spirit
of that thing moved to its his tools because after that,
whenever whenever some people would pick his tools without knowing,
something would happen to them, and he had to warn people,
if you want to use my tools, you have to
let me know. Just let me know, even if you
make a note, I don't want anything to happen to you.
I don't know what kind of spirit that is that
moves to his tools. I thought that was really interesting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that certainly is. And it sounds like they were
living in that same area in Alaska as well, similar
to what you experienced in New Mexico.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I remember in the same town where my
dad grew up. It's called Stelowick. It's the northwest Arctic region.
The village, and before my grandparents got a bigger house,
they used to live in a really small house. In
one of my aunts, she heard rustling outside that I
don't know what the year was, but it was way
before I was born, and she heard wrestling outside and
outside the window. So she opened the curtains and there
was a hairy man just had its hands on the
window and it was peeking in through the window right
at her, right in front of her face. I was like, well,
I always thought Bigfoot wasn't up there. Actually it was
closer than I thought.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it makes sense why campers really experience activity
compared to people who who are doing long hikes, because
when you're hiking, the creature can just wait for you
to pass by, wait a few minutes, and you're gone.
But when you're camping in an area, they possibly get
upset and they're more likely to come up to you.
And it's similar to the areas that you've lived at.
You guys are there, you're stationary, and you're not going anywhere,
so they're more likely to approach. Yeah, Okay.
Speaker 2: There was another time where my mom had a teacher
ade friend. She was saying her oldest daughter was awake
one night, it was probably in the nineties and she
heard a noise coming from the water because they lived
on the outskirts of town near the water, and she
didn't turn on the lights or anything. She just took
a little peek out the window and she said, she's
seen something walking out of the water. She said it
was tall and black, and she ran to the back
and woke everybody up and they all looked at it,
and it walked around their house like looking for food,
I guess, and they saw it just walk, calmly walk
back into the water, and it disappeared into the water.
Speaker 1: Wow. When you say disappeared in the water, like did
it get in like fully submerged.
Speaker 2: Or submerged into the water.
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, I've heard reports. I've heard reports where these
sayings can swim like like gators through the water. Oh, Dave,
what else have you heard?
Speaker 2: My mom told me a story. This happened when she
was about eleven twelve years old, so it was in
the nineteen sixties on the reservation here, and one night
she she went to sleep at her grandma's and she
lives right across the highway from where my grandma lives,
and she lives. She lived in a small house and
at a time one of my aunt, my aunties, and
my little cousin or he was a baby at the time,
we were living there with my grandma and my mom
and my uncle went to go sleep over, and they
made a bed on the floor and my aunt had
her own bed, and the baby was by the window.
And my mom said she could hear screaming from far away,
like she was a little girl, she was hearing screaming
from far away, and she woke up and she was
waking up her grandma. And when they woke up, my
grandma started walking around the house and she said the
front door was open, like a foot wide, and the
little dog that they had, they had a little Pomeranian,
and it was really barking towards the front door. And
it took a long time for my auntie to calm down,
but she finally calmed down, and she told my great
grandma she was sleeping and she would sleep on her back,
and she had her hand over her forehead and she
was holding the sheet over her face, and she heard
a noise, so she uncovered her face and there was
something tall and black, big and black, standing right by
her bed inside the house. And that's when she started screaming.
And when she started screaming, it took off outside. It
ran outside the door, and that explains the open door,
how they found it open. And the next day she
asked my grandma and my grandpa to come check the house.
And my grandpa was walking around and towards the back
of the house, he's seen really big footprints by the
one of the windows in the back, and I thought
that was really scary that it was actually inside the house.
And I was really asking questions like did the door
lock or anything? And I guess back then they weren't
too worried about people bothering or anything, so I don't
think they locked the doors much, or if there was
any good locks on the doors.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's truly frighten. Yeah, there's the story the Siege
of Hanobi and Oklahoma or the Sasquatch were wiggling the
doors every night and like they're like violent, I don't
like violently juggling the door handles, which is pretty scary
and on monster. Last Jeff Meldrum, when he was still alive,
he went to a remote cabin in Canada, and I
think he said the nearest house or town was one
hundred miles away. It was super remote, but the cabin
owners claimed that something was getting inside the cabin and
destroying everything, and they believe it was the Sasquatch. Wow,
do you think in this case it was more it
was more of like a spiritual event like appearing in
the house, or it was just coming straight through the door,
went inside the house.
Speaker 2: It sounded like it came street through the door. She
said it was standing right by her bed, looking at
her sleeping and I think it was probably looking at
the baby too.
Speaker 1: I wonder what its intentions were, like, what did it want?
Speaker 2: I don't know, mm hmm. But my aunt didn't mess around.
She started screaming, and she started screaming. That's when it
took off into the darkness. Yeah, the front door.
Speaker 1: I don't blame her. It could have took the baby.
Speaker 2: Yeah, i'd she woke up.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I wonder if she heard something or if her
instincts kicked in and she woke up like she knew
something was wrong.
Speaker 2: She said she was hearing weird noises like rustling or
something woke her up, and she just peeked over her
over the sheet, and that's what she's seen. She's seen.
It was really tall and really black. That's what she's seen,
something tall and black.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would traumatize me. I wouldn't be able to
go to sleep after that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know how long she lived. My great
ground them up. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, i'd be sleeping, wide eyed, awake with the weapons
right next to me or multiple weapons same year.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: But when she screamed, it probably scared the sasquatch just
as much as she was scared. They were both screaming.
Oh man, Yeah, I mean that didn't happen to me,
But now I'm I'm gonna be weary when I'm asleep
at night, like something could be here and I have
no idea.
Speaker 2: I'd be freaking man. It would be something to see though.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. And it seems to happen with every
strange mystery that's taken place out there, Like people wake
up and there's like an entity, whether it's like a
shadow person or whatever, at the end of their bed
or right next to them. And also with like alien
many people have reported waking up and there's like an
alien staring down at them. And now cryptids. I think
that's the first report that I've had on the channel
where somebody woke up and there was a sasquatch next
to their bed.
Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, I was really freaked out when my mom
told me that story. That's what she remembered when she
was about eleven or twelve years old.
Speaker 1: The scary part about it all is it's probably not
the first time this thing's done that.
Speaker 2: M hm. I'm pretty sure I've seen stories on the
Beer four ol website, there's a couple of stories from
the reservation posted and there's a story where it's reaching
into the kitchen window looking for food and I don't
know why it didn't do I do that, and it
took almost took off my smaller bedroom window. I don't
know why it didn't take it off all the way. Yeah,
I just heard it pop. Yeah, I just heard it
pop and nothing else.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's scary because you found that handprint on the window,
So that means they're trying to open it.
Speaker 2: H And there's a couple of times where it tried
to open my bigger window. And back then I used
to have a screen on it and we have to
get get it replaced multiple times because it would take
it off and break it. It would tear it up.
So now I don't bother with screens on my windows.
Speaker 1: Wow, you'll have to like get a print out of
a sasquatch and like put it up on the window.
See if that'll like break them out, maybe one with
like red eyes, then they'll stop coming to the window.
Speaker 2: That was the handprint I sent in to thefr S.
A huge handprint. Yeah, it was a huge handprint, and
you could see the top of my screen where it's bent,
like where it was trying to take it off. I
remember it was twenty fourteen. That's when my older daughter
was going to start head Start and I was up
late getting stuff ready, and right at four o'clock in
the morning, that's when I started hearing rubbing, something rubbing
up against the screen. And I heard the top of
the screen like making rustling noises, like something was bothering it.
And that's all I heard. And I didn't think anything.
And when I opened my window the next morning, that's
when I've seen the huge handprints on the screen at
the top.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Did you ever hear back from the BFRO or
did they just post the report?
Speaker 2: They immediately said no, it's it's probably a big man.
That it's probably a big man that's trying to open
your window. And after that, I just I didn't say
anything else. Yeah, they just dismissed me. After that. I
didn't bother like sharing anything with anyone. Yeah, but I
told your channel with the video because you make it
feel safe to share.
Speaker 1: Oh, I appreciate that you said you saw the episode
where I filmed the eyes out in the woods and
that prompted you to contact me. Yes, I'm glad you did.
I mean, I definitely believe everything you're telling me, and yeah,
that's important information. I can't believe the BFRO dismissed you.
But that's not the first time I've heard that, and
I'm not surprised. I wonder if you put a mirror
up in the window, what that would do. You ever
thought about that?
Speaker 2: Actually, my younger sister was suggesting that. Really, but I
haven't tried that yet. Yeah, but I should do it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's two things that could happen.
Speaker 2: Happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it might intensify the activity or it might break
them out and they don't come back up to the window.
But I feel like they'd see it as a challenge. Yeah,
they might think the windows. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: There was even one time in the nineties or early
two thousands, my cousin came back. He was a smoke jumper,
and he came back from a fire late late at night.
It was one o'clock, two o'clock in the morning, and
he lives right next door, and he said he got
home and it was really dark, and in between the
houses there was there was a big foot standing facing
towards him, just looking at him. He freaked out and
he ran inside right away, and so she was telling
my mom, and it looked like it was about to
look in the windows.
Speaker 1: So there seems to be a connection with you and
your family, and for some reason, these things are trying
to contact you and like interact with you and your family.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's always coming around the house, and there was
I remember one one night in twenty fourteen, and it
was in the middle of the night. And back then,
I shared my room with my two daughters, and we
shared a big, king size bed and my younger daughter
was sleeping in the middle and I was sleeping at
the edge and my other daughter was sleeping towards the wall.
And she woke up in the middle of the night
winning her wanting some juice, and I forgot I left
it on the table that night, and when I'm awake
by myself, I talked to myself like, Okay, I'm gonna
do this, and then I'm gonna do this, And so
I decided to get up and I went to use
the restroom and the first like the restroom, the first
reshroom that's closest to the front door. And just before
I was going to go into the restroom, I heard
banging on the back porch and I was I was like,
there's elk on the back porch painting, and that's all
I said. And I did my business, and I just
when I turned the corner towards the front door, that's
when I started hearing really heavy footsteps. I could from
where I was standing at the end of the hall,
I could feel the vibration of the footsteps and it
was just like boom boom, walking towards the front door.
And back then my dad just installed new dead bolts
and the dead boat was locked. The door knob was unlocked,
and sure enough, it walked up to the window of
the door and the doorknob started slowly turning, and it
was really slowly turning, like it was trying to be
sneaky opening the door. And all I could do was
just look at it. My heart was pounding looking at
the doorknob twisting like that, and I was freaking out.
I was the only one awake, and I couldn't even
move from where I was standing. I couldn't move at all.
And because I knew it was by the door, and
I heard it turn around, it was turning the doorknob
for like what seemed like thirty seconds, and I heard
it turn around and it went. I was walking back
off the front porch in the same pace that it
came up. It was really slow and really heavy. I
could feel the vibration of the footprints from inside the house.
And as soon as it left, that's when I could
finally move, and I ran to the front and I
grabbed the juice and I ran back into my room.
I just went. I was trying not to freak out
by myself, and ever since then, my dad got mad
at me. You should have woke me up. Whenever you
hear something, you should wake me up, because he's not scared.
He will he'll get in his flash and he'll run
outside and see what's going on. Yeah, that's what I've seen.
Speaker 1: Wow. Then you could feel the footsteps from inside them.
Speaker 2: It was really heavy.
Speaker 1: It had have been a really big one. Now, you
had that dream about them coming out of a portal
and they were doing like the samurai chatter. Do you
feel like they really are using portals? What are your
thoughts about the activity that you experienced around your property.
Speaker 2: I believe they're using those portals. Yeah. Sometimes people see
it and then it would just disappear or turn invisible.
What looked like like it's coaking. But I believe that
they're using the portals to travel around the reservation a
little shortcut.
Speaker 1: Have you guys experienced anything else other than sasquatch activity, Like,
do you guys see UFOs out there?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 1: They're crypti spiritual beings.
Speaker 2: My dad or my mom told me a story that
her and her mom went to bingo. They went to
a bingo and then next few towns over and it's
about a forty minute drive and they were coming home.
There's this place called Round Mountain. It's just a round mountain.
There's a cross at the top. But just before that mountain,
she said, she was driving and my grandma fell asleep,
so it was just her awake, and just by that
mountain she's seen a huge ufo. She said, she saw
the detail of it. There was light all around it.
It was bigger than bigger than a house, she said,
and it was hovering over the the ground. And she
said she even saw windows at the top. There was
lights all over it. There was windows that looked like
the trapperzoid and there was windows all around it. And
just as fast as she said, mom, look, just when
she called her her mom, that thing ah stopped hovering
and it shot straight up and it disappeared. So my
grandma didn't wasn't able to see it. So she was
telling me, it's like, wow.
Speaker 1: Do you guys their eyes And maybe it's connected to
the cryptid activity.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, we hear we see strange lights in the
sky all the time to the state.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hard to say whether it is or it isn't,
but it is happening in the same area, so that's
something to keep note of.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. And there's stories of little people living in
the mountains. There's some hikers that look for elk elk
sheds and sometimes they would see like little structures in
the woods, like looked like something built built it and
there are really tiny little houses and a little campfire
next to it. Mm hm. Oh, there's little people somewhere
in the woods. My grandma used to say all the time,
be careful when you're out at night. There's probably little
people up in the wood or up in the trees
watching you. It would freak out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've heard that with other reservations, the people encounter
these little humanoid creatures. And just like you mentioned what
the juvenile sasquatch, the little people. They're mischievous there. They're tricksters,
and you don't want to make them angry.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I also have one more dream that matched up
group with reality. There was a time in two thousand,
honestly six, we're taking out the carpet in the living
room and so all the furniture was in the back
again and covered with sheets and everything. And I don't
remember why my grandma didn't follow us to go eat out.
I think she said she was tired, and so she
stayed behind by herself, and by the time we came back,
we found her laying on the dining room floor by
the table, and all she told us was that she slipped,
and she's the type that don't want to scare us.
And years later, in twenty twenty one, I ended up
dreaming about that time. I was dreaming that she was
going towards the dining room window. There are really huge windows.
She was going to close the curtains, and there was
a scrassedass squatch that appeared in front of her, and
it was so big that it had to hunch over
and look at her, and it had really big red eyes,
and it was shoulders were so wide, and it was
hunched over at her, and she said, just from the size,
or from my dream, just from the size, she fell backwards.
She got scared, and she got even more scared because
as she was laying there on the floor, it started
talking Apachy to her. I don't understand Apache as much
as in you, Pa, but if I knew, then I
would translate it. But I don't know what it was
saying to her, But she was freaked out at the
fact that it was talking Apache to her, like mind speaking,
wasn't actually moving it mouth. It was like kind of
mind speaking to her and Apache. And that's when I
woke up. As she saw that that part of the
dream and I woke up. That's why she was dining room.
Speaker 1: I've heard people that claim they've heard Sasquatch out in
the woods and they were speaking like Cherokee, Apache, different
Native American languages. One of my friends from Oklahoma, he
actually has a recording of it, and he claims, I
think it was a researcher in the area that recorded it,
but he had it on his phone. But they claimed
there was like a gifting site where they were gifting
the sasquatch and you can hear the creature walk up
to the gifting site and then it starts speaking in
its language and then also speaking I think it was Cherokee,
and I was thinking, oh, that's that's just a human,
Like there definitely sounds like two people talking. And then
it got really low, like the voice got really really
low toned, and it was like, I don't know. I
was like, wow, that's that's incredible, Like that is definitely
not human. Then it's speaking like different languages. That's scary.
Speaker 2: It is pretty scary, but yeah.
Speaker 1: It's definitely something they can do. M makes you wonder
what they truly are and if our genetics was tampered
with many years ago, and I don't know, like where
where do they come from? That's my main question. Are
they really inter dimensional? Are they some sort of human
that's been altered in some way or all the above.
It's hard to say.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've always wondered about that too, mm hmm.
Speaker 1: But then the natives, the natives say they were here
before they ever even showed up.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I remember one time my dad got some Alaskan
food from my family up in Alaska, and he was
really happy. There was over we eat bowhead whale and
there was a bunch of the blubber left over, so
he was going to make some oil with it. And
all he did was put it in a big glass
pickle jar and he was gonna just let it melt
into oil. And he was really happy about it, really
excited that he was going to have some oil. And
it was outside that time. He didn't put the fridge
fridge inside the shed. It was outside of the shed
that time, and something stole the whole thing, the whole jar.
Then my dad got mad at first, but then he
made a joke. He was like, well, Bigfoot's not going
to be cold to night, because if you eat too
much of that, you won't won't get cold, you won't
get cold at all. But yeah, that's what it stole
from us, and that's not all it stole. I remember
my uncle next door, he had a gunnysack full of
deer meat and he was going to try it. So
he hung it up high up on a tree. He
tied it up, and during the night the whole bag
got stolen. The whole thing was gone, and he don't
know what happened to it. He said he tied it
up so dogs or anything won't get into it, but
the whole thing was gone, even the bag. And I
remember just the recent one, just last October, my niece
and his husband went elk hunting. He got picked to
go elk hunting and he wanted my dad to fix
the hide, and my dad the week of Halloween scraping
the skin, like fixing the hide to dry, and just
before Halloween, like the day before Halloween, he was finished
and he made like a frame for it out of
boards and he tied it. He tied the al kayde
to the frame and he placed it by the woodpile
that's near the creek. And I remember seeing it on
Halloween night. That's when I took out, took the kids
to get candy around the neighborhoods and I remember seeing
it that evening that night by the woodpile. And a
couple of days later, my mom texted me saying that
alkhide's gone, the whole thing and my dad said it
was heavy and it was still stink. Oh, the whole
thing got took taken. My nephew tried to walk walk
around the property to see where it got placed, to
see if he could find the boards or anything. He
said he couldn't find anything. The whole thing got took taken,
and we don't know what took it, but we have
a pretty good idea.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's wild. Same thing happened to my dad when
he got a ten point buck. He kept the head
and the hide and he was gonna get it mounted.
He had it hung up in the garage and the
next morning it was gone, and we looked all over
the place for it. We ended up finding it about
a half mile away down at the creek bottom. But
what I found strange about it was nothing chewed on it, like,
nothing chewed up the ears, the hide, everything was in
perfect shape. It's like something just carried it off.
Speaker 2: Wow, it's really freaky.
Speaker 1: Yeah it is. It's almost like they want it back
or something like they feel like it's theirs.
Speaker 2: I remember seeing actually seeing it for myself. The first
time was around probably two thousand and six, summertime. My
younger sister and I were sitting on the back porch.
Again we usually sit on the back porch when it
gets cool in the evening, and it didn't get dark
and it was still daylight. And back then the brush
across the field across our house it was all cleared.
The tribe cleared that whole area, so we could see
the neighborhood that the house across the hill, I mean
across the road, and a trailer that's up on the hill.
We could see that trailer really good, and at the
end of the trailer we noticed something standing there. It
was really tall and black and it was standing by
that bedroom window and their front door was open, but
their screen door was closed, and from where we could
from where we were standing, we could see the TV
and whatever that was at the end of the trailer.
It was peaking, like tree peaking. What it was doing.
It was going back and forth looking at the TV
what looked like and that's when me and my sister
got scared. We ran inside. And that was the first
time I seen it. The second time was in twenty sixteen,
and that was the year that my parents went to Alaska,
and that time my mom ended up getting sick, so
they had to extend their stay until September. So I
was home alone, the only adult at home with the
kids in it at the time. It was my daughters
and my nieces and my nephew. And it was the
first day of school in August and that morning there
was no sunshine. It was just cloud cover, so it
was gray outside. And I usually stand outside with them
to wait for the bus and it usually comes right
at seven, and it was about six fifty when I
told my one of my nieces to go stand outside.
I was like, yeah, stand outside, I'll be right out there,
and I was getting my older daughter ready. Not even
ten seconds later, I heard her running back inside and
she was like, I think I've seen bigfoot. It was
And so when I ran outside with her and it
was it, she said it was standing on our side
of the creek by the dogs. Back then, we had
two dogs, and those two dogs they didn't want to move.
They had their noses tucked in. They were in a ball.
It looked like they were scared and they weren't moving
even when they heard us. Some ran outside, and by
the time I went outside, it jumped across the creek
and it was behind that one of those trees. And
even though I had my phone in my hand, I
couldn't even lift it up to take a picture or
a video or anything because I was frozen in fear.
It had its arm wrapped around the tree, and it
had its other hand like on the stump and it
was tree peeking at us and was kept it kept
looking at us like that. And it was like that
for like about five minutes. And my aunt next door,
she was about to leave for work, and when it
hurt her ah pulling up in her car. That's when
it walked away into the thicket on the other side
of the creek. And we're really trying to tell her
what we've seen, and she's the same way. She don't
like to make make us feel scared, so she was
just saying, oh, it's an elk, but I know, I
know it wasn't. It wasn't an elk. It was really
pitch black hair all over. I couldn't see its face
or anything. I could just see hair all over. And
I can tell that it had really big muscles. And
I remember that time I was. I was scared. I
didn't want to be home by myself with my two
younger ones, uh, my younger daughter and my nephew. They
didn't start school yet. They were going to start head
start the next week, so I didn't want to be
home alone with them. So I went to goo visit
my late brother and I was telling him about the experience,
and he was like now you can stay. You're welcome
to stay here at my house as long as you want.
You can. You can always go home later. So I
spent the morning with my brother that day.
Speaker 1: Well, you've had a lot of experiences, so I can
definitely understand why you're weary about these creatures and anticipating
the next time that they'll show up around the property.
Speaker 2: Mm hm.
Speaker 1: What was the last experience that you had today? Like,
was it the one that happened in January with the
the eye shine?
Speaker 2: Hmm? The most recent one was hearing about my dad
in the back porch where it was where it moved
the table. That happened on May five, So that was
the most most recent one, Okay, so well, actually a
couple of days after that, they went out into the
woods to go for a ride and there's a road
skull called Skyline Road and it's there were at the
area where there was a bunch of pine trees. They
were all close together and they're driving through that area
and on my dad's side, the driver's side, he said,
there was a branch that got thrown at at the
truck and he said, did you see that? My mom
and she didn't see it because it happened on the
driver's side, but it just happened a couple of weeks ago.
I thought that was freaking.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so they have shown some aggressive behavior.
Speaker 2: M yeah, I remember getting rocks thrown at us. It
was two thousand and seven. That's when some friends from
Alaska was visiting. And it was my younger sister me
our cousin that came to her from Alaska, and one
of my nieces from next door. She was sticking over
and my cousin from Alaska. She was saying we should
go go outside and shoot hoops even though it was dark.
I told her my grandma don't like us being outside
at night. It was like, let's just go for a
little bit, and so we snuck out the back door
and back then we had the room the rim right
across my bedroom window and the back then there was
a street light on the corner of the house, so
it was shining right on the rim and it was
already dark, and we were shooting hoops and laughing and everything,
and just when it got quiet, there was a rock
that got thrown next from by the apple tree, and
it was a pretty good sized pebble, and we're like,
what the heck with throw that rock, and that's when
we say we should try and throw one back. And
that's when I picked up a rock and I threw
one back towards that area and something through another rock back,
and that's when we freaked out and we ran inside,
and I figured that it wanted to go by the creek,
but it wanted to be unseen. That's that's what my
theory was.
Speaker 1: Yeah, very well could be, and they're obviously trying to
get your attention.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we didn't want to stick around to see what
it was, so we just ran back inside.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't blame you. Well, it sounds like an
awesome place to do bigfoot research, and it sounds like
you got a really cool family and you guys stick together,
which is really nice to hear. And hopefully the next
time they show up, things are peaceful and they're just
trying to interact with you, not trying to come inside
the house.
Speaker 2: There was one time that my niece, one of my nieces,
slept outside on in between the houses and should on
her laptop watching a movie on Netflix, and all of
a sudden, she felt the ground shake. She said, something
ran by her tent in between the houses, and she
said it was so heavy that the ground shook and
it shook her tent, and she texted me right away
because I was just right inside. And that's when my
younger sister and I went out in the back porch
and was waiting for her to gather her stuff so
she can come back inside. And she slept outside because
it got overcrowded during the summertime. A lot of families visit.
And while we were waiting, we started smelling it. It
smelled like a skunky musky smell, but it was really
strong and we were like, yeah, we can smell it.
So we went back inside and we're all freaking out
what we're hearing what she told us, and we thought
it was really something to hear that actually ran right
past her tent.
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely could have been the sasquatch.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and she thought it was elk at first, but
I don't know. I don't think elk can like only
if there was a herd of him maybe could shake
the ground like that and the tent. That's what she
heard that night. And I remember one time that it
actually hit the side of the house. It hit the
house so hard that it shook the whole house, and
we heard it hitting the shed next to the house,
and then we heard it walking into the brush and
it was really walking through the brush like that, and
it sounded mad for some reason that time. That was
the only time that it hit the house.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder why they hit the side of the house.
Do you think it was angry?
Speaker 2: That's my guess because it was right by the front door.
But back then it was my grandma's room. Correctly, it's
my daughter's room, but it sounded like it hit near
the bedroom window on the wall, and it hit it
so hard that we felt the house shake, and that
was the only time we felt the house shake. It
was pretty freaky.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the fact that it shook the whole house, that's scary.
Speaker 2: Mm hm. I remember in twenty seventeen, one of my
my oldest niece, she graduated high school and we just
had a brand new trampoline and one morning we woke
up and it was about seven eight in the morning.
The trampoline was near the driveway and all the poles,
it was one of those trampline with poles in a net.
All the poles were bent inwards. I have a picture
of it. They were bent inwards in that. I ran
back inside and I got my younger sister and we
decided to go check it out. We were walking around
the trampoline and we ended up seeing really long, long
hair stuck in the springs, and we were too scared
to touch it. We thought it was horse like horse hair,
but we're like, what the heck horses won't do this.
Would they be doing doing this? I don't think it's possible.
We figured that it was that bent poles. We have
to take all those poles down, we have to take
it apart.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I could have been them, and I don't know.
I feel like they're trying to interact with you guys
and make contact, and that might have to happen in
the future.
Speaker 2: M We have already seen a couple of them before.
Mm hmm. I don't know what's gonna what's in the future.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you might find yourself communicating face to face with
the sasquatch one day.
Speaker 2: Oh. I don't know what I would do. I know
I would freeze. I'm scared.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So is this house surrounded by forest?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just live There's mountains everywhere.
Speaker 1: Okay, and the surrounding mountains are they able to look
down on you guys from up there.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. In some areas there's watch towers. And my
brother used to actually work at the forestry and he
one early morning he had to go check at one
of the watch towers and he said he's seeing one
of those things by by the tree stump and it
was tree peeking at him, and so he had to
check on his co worker at the watch tower and
all he warned and was like, there's a bear in
the area, and he didn't want to scare his co worker,
but he's seen a sasquatch tree peeking at him near
one of the watch towers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the place sounds like it's off the charts, and
I definitely feel like you're going to continue to run
into these things.
Speaker 2: M hm. I haven't heard it in years. Actually, I
just just seen it like a couple of times and
just seen the handprints, smelled it. It would smell it
a lot. I've actually smelled it just a couple of
nights ago, but I haven't heard anything or seen anything.
Just smelled it. That's it. And I actually have an
AC unit on my bigger window and one of the
flaps got looked like something was trying to open the flap,
and so I had to. That was last year. This
year I had to. I ended up like covering the
flaps and everything with the board and trying to tape
it up. I didn't want anything to do that again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't blame you because we don't know what
they are and what their intentions are, and you just
never know that they seem to be pretty unpredictable.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, anything else that you want to mention, anything
major that you forgot.
Speaker 2: H Yeah, looking at my notes and looks like I
covered everything.
Speaker 1: Okay. Well, kat you did an excellent job at describing
these experiences and relaying the information that you've come across,
and I really appreciate you for contacting the channel and
openly sharing all this information with everybody.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fun telling all these stories.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, you got through it and I'm proud of you.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I feel like you'll be contact in the future
again though.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know if you're going to add this
to the podcast, but I actually had a dream that
you came to visit not too long ago, and I
was dreaming that you stayed in the next town. It's
called Rios and they have rental cabins. And you were
staying near a tree line and you asked me to
come come over because we're going to do an investigation.
And I got there early, and I didn't know that
you left somewhere to the store or something. And I
heard the TV inside. I thought you were inside, so
I got off the vehicle in and I was knocking
at the front door. And as I was knocking, I
looked towards the tree line and there was a squatch
that popped out of the tree line and was looking
at me. And I got nervous and I started knocking
louder and I'm like, Miguel, Miguel. And that's when you
pulled up behind behind me, and I told you. As
you were pulling up, it disappeared into the tree line,
and I told you, and that's when we went straight
towards or it was where I seen it. And then
I woke up.
Speaker 1: Wow, you never know it might happen. Your dreams have
been yeah, true. And yeah, that area of New Mexico
just looks beautiful. I look that up and the mountains
there truly spectacular.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really really beautiful.
Speaker 1: Here yeah, it is. If you had the choice to
live in Alaska or New Mexico, which one would you choose?
Speaker 2: Oh, don't make me chew. It's and I really love
it up in Alaska just as much as I love
it here. Both places are home.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they're both equally beautiful.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I forgot. We went canting just a couple of
weeks ago. Yeah, first week of me actually, And right
at four am, just before four am, we heard I
heard an owl. There was an owl hooting like towards
It's called Silver Lake, Silver Lake Campground, and we're not
too far from the lake, and so I heard an
owl hooting from a distance and it was just who
who who like that. It was constant, like for an
hour straight it was doing that. And right at four
am there was a second call, a weird sounding owl,
but it was like really fast and it sounded like
it was right outside our tent. And I don't know
how the other campers that we were with didn't hear
it because it was pretty loud. It only did the
two owl calls, and it was really fast. It was
like like that, just like that. It did that twice,
and after that it started making like a weird duck
sound mixed with like a crow cawing. I can't even
imitate that sound. And it did that like three times,
and during those calls, all the frogs, all the crickets
stopped making noise. It was dead quiet. So I don't
know that what that was. And after that, it just
I waited until five o'clock in the morning. I didn't
hear anything else after those calls, and I waited until
I started hearing birds to fall asleep. But I thought
that was pretty weird to hear.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is strange, and I've experienced similar and it
makes me wonder if it is the Sasquatch or if
it's simply just an how but sometimes it sounds too
human like and the cadence is just just off.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I thought that was pretty weird. But that
was pretty much all my stories for now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for now. Hopefully, I mean, if you do have
more in the future, hopefully it's positive interactions with them.
And yeah, like I said, you might make contact with them,
and I would just try to be as respectful as possible,
and I know you will be, but I don't know.
I feel like they want something and it's possibly just
food or they want to communicate with you, So just
keep that in mind. And yeah, if it's a negative experience,
you'll have to you have to go get your dad. Yeah,
we'll chase them out.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I haven't tried the peanut butter yet or the tobacco.
I'll have to try those sometow attract Yeah, it might
catch it on camera or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it would definitely attract them. And I know they
like Apple's peanut butter. The tobacco. I don't know, but
I've put it out a few times and I've had
interactions or experiences unfold, so I guess they do like it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it all trace some peanut butter at least.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Are you going to go camping later on in
the future.
Speaker 2: I want to. It's a pretty good time to go
camping at that campground. It's called Silver Lake. Mm hmm.
It's on the reservation. There's been multiple sightings over there too,
near the lake, near the tree line. That's all I've heard.
Whenever I camp there, there was weird, weird call.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks like a good area and also a
good area to find tracks around the lake.
Speaker 2: M Yeah. My niece actually took a picture of some
big tracks by one of the other lakes that's on
the reservation. It's a deep, muddy track. I don't know
when that was she took a picture of it. It
was all dried up already, So I'm pretty sure it
goes through that creek or the water and just gets fish.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I could say that they come down from the
mountain and go down to the lake and fish.
Speaker 2: Yeah. There's plenty of deer, and there's plenty of elk,
plenty of fish, a lot of food for it to
stay healthy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got the food, water and cover, the perfect
recipe for sasquatch activity.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm pretty sure. I'm gonna continue hearing it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think so too. And if you experience anything
else in the future, reach out to me. I'd like
to hear about it. If you have any questions, feel
free to shoot me a message.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll send you all those pictures of the handprints
and footprint that we fall. The handprints are really yeah,
but I'll send them.
Speaker 1: That sounds good to me, and I'd love to check
it out and I appreciate it. Okay, all right, thank
you so much, Kat, and I'm so grateful that you
shared your experiences on the channel. You're a really nice person,
and yeah, I just really appreciate you so much. We'll come.
Speaker 2: Thank you for taking time to listen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, and I believe you one and ten percent.
Be safe in the future and be mindful that these
things are around, and I know you will be.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll continue to be gaming and listening to your channel. Well.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it, and hopefully more people from your area
share their experiences and I would like to hear about it.
Speaker 2: Okay. Yeah, I hope so too.
Speaker 1: Okay, will you have yourself an excellent day and you
take care of yourself.
Speaker 2: Kay, you have an excellent day as well.
Speaker 1: All right, thank you. I appreciate you. All right. Big
shout out to our guest Kathleen for coming on and
sharing her experiences that have stayed with her family for years.
Whether you believe these events point towards sasquatch misidentified wildlife,
something spiritual, or something we simply do not understand yet,
the stories raise questions that can continue to fascinate people
across generations. If you've had unusual experiences in Alaska, New Mexico,
or anywhere across the country and would like to share
your story, send me an email and tell me what happened.
If you enjoyed this episode, please like the video, leave
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miss future interviews and field investigations. It could very well
be possible that the Sasquatch are attracted to the females
on the property, and the Native Americans often warned us
that they are attracted to women and children. Also, women
put off a different pheromone than men, and it could
be possible that maybe a monthly cycle could be attracting
these creatures. I ran that through Cat off air and
she said, Wow, that really does make a lot of sense,
and it puts things in perspective. So I'm not trying
to be rude, but the Native Americans did say they
had to isolate women on their monthly cycles away from
the rest of the tribe in fear of attracting the
Sasquatch creatures, and it is something to think about. I
know it's a little sensitive of a topic to ask
a female, but it is important. If these creatures are
coming up to the house trying to open up the windows,
and they've been known to make their way inside. If
you enjoyed this episode, like the video, subscribe and until
the next one, you guys be safe out in the woods.