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Speaker 1: Hey everyone, and welcome to Sasquatch Theory. Tonight's encounter takes

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us from the remote wilderness of Alaska to the Mascalero

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Apache Reservation in New Mexico. This story spans decades and generations.

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Our guest, Kathleen, grew up hearing stories of the Hairy Man,

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long before she ever questioned whether the legends could be

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real or not. In the mid nineteen nineties, strange howls

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and screams echoed through the Alaskan wilderness so loudly they

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could be heard from inside the house. Years later, in

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New Mexico, her family began experiencing something even stranger. Massive

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figures seen near the road, foul odors outside the house,

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fresh tree breaks, unexplained screams, tracks and fresh snow, and

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encounters that left entire families sleeping together in fear. This

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is a story of family memories, fear, mystery, and experiences

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that stretched a r us, two states, and multiple generations.

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all that being said, let's dive straight into Kathleen's bigfoot

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encounters from the state of Alaska and the reservation in

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New Mexico. All right, Kat, welcome to Sasquatch Theory. How

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are you doing today?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing good.

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Speaker 1: How are you doing excellent? Thank you so much for asking, Kat,

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if you would tell me a little bit about yourself,

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where you're from, and all your experiences that you've encountered

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throughout your life.

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Speaker 2: Hi, my name is Kathleen. I was born here in

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New Mexico, but I was raised in Alaska Northwest Arctic region.

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But I've been living here in New Mexico since twenty twelve. Wow.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's truly amazing. When did you have your first

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experience and what happened.

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Speaker 2: I've been experiencing the first time I had an experience,

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I actually heard it vocalizing. Remember growing up, we would

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go to school up in Alaska and we would come

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down during the summertime to visit family. It was during

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the summer months that we were here, and I don't

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remember the exact date, but I remember it was in

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the mid nineties and I was just a little girl then,

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and I remember I would be waking up to howl.

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I would hear it cry, screaming, hollering, and it was terrifying.

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I remember I would run to my mom and even

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though we cover our ears, we could hear it over

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covering our ears, and we would be crying for it

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to stop it. It seemed like it would be going

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on for like thirty minutes maybe, but it felt like

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so long.

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Speaker 1: That's scary. So you were covering your ears inside the

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house and you could still hear the creature screaming and howling.

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Speaker 2: It sounds like it was in the field across our house,

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either in that field or it was up on the hill.

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That field used to be really bushy like back then.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. What do you think they were communicating?

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Speaker 2: I don't remember. I was too small. I remember I

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was really small. M hm.

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Speaker 1: Did it sound like they were angry?

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Speaker 2: Yes, sometimes the sonic it would be angry. Wow.

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Speaker 1: And what did your people tell you about the hairy

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man when you lived there? Were they good? Were they bad?

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And what were the local legends?

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Speaker 2: I just remember my grandma would always tell us not

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to be going out that night and not to leave,

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not to bother it, just to leave it alone. Yeah,

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So as long as if you don't bother it. It

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won't bother you.

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Speaker 1: They were all well aware of the hairy man in Alaska.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Wow, And what what do they call it? What names

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did they give the hairyman there?

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Speaker 2: I don't know about New Mexico, but my dad was

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telling me that word for it. It's just uh New

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York just having long hair all over.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, that's truly frightening. What else unfolded after your

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experience in Alaska when you were a little girl.

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Speaker 2: Oh, actually, these experiences are on the reservation. I remember

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one year when we were here on the reservation, my aunts,

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two of my aunties, and my uncle went to the

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casino and my parents were in the back room along

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with my grandma. They already went to bed. My older

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siblings were babysitting us with along with my cousins other kids,

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and I remember I was talking about Disneyland with my

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cousins and my little sister, and my aunt busted through

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the front door and she was just frantic. She was

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really like telling us to put on our shoes, and

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she said she was My dad was asking her what's

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going on. She was saying that she's seen it. They

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seen it laying by the road, like not too far

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from our house, and it had its knees up, it

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was bent, and it was just laying by the road,

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just down the road from our house. And so I

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remember they took my grandma next door to my uncle's house,

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and that time we went to my cousin's house and

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we spent the night there because because the door is

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back then on my grandma's the doorknobs they weren't really

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that good, and so they didn't want us to be

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sleeping there after seeing that creature.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so she was afraid it would try to come

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into the house or terrorize you guys in the house.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I wonder why it was laying down.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, And I just remember hearing her talking

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about it, and it took a while for her to

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calm down and tell my dad.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Did she say if it was massive or was

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it more of a juvenile?

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Speaker 2: She said it was huge. Its arms were really long,

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the legs were really long, and it just it was

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like laying in a ditch, like almost a ditchlight by

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the road. It's right by the road. But I don't

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know why.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if it was waiting for animals to cross

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the road like maybe it was hunting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of elk that cross right there too.

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Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, it was like in an ambush position. I'm

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only theorizing, of course, but I'm trying to find a

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logical answer as to why a sasquat should be laying

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on the road. And also, you guys travel that road,

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so that's scary because if you leave the house, you

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never know if this thing is going to jump out.

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Speaker 2: I think about that all the time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, when you pass that spot, you're like, I wonder

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if it's Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I remember there was another time my cousin came to

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visit and she brought some board games and she was

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on her way home. She decided to go home, and

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it got darker ready, and it didn't even take five minutes.

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She came back knocking on the door, pounding on it

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actually saying she's seen something run across the road in

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front of her, right where my aunt seen it laying

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down previously. And she said it just ran across the

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road and she heard it like rushing through the brush,

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like towards the creek in front of her. She turned

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around really fast and she went straight to our house.

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Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, so they're definitely living close to the house

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and possibly hunting local wildlife in the area. And what

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were your thoughts and feelings in these moments when your

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aunt came home told everyone to put on their shoes,

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and when your cousin was pounding on the door. What

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did you feel in that moment or in those moments.

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Speaker 2: I just remember being scared. I knew immediately what you

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were talking about. I just remember feeling scared just that

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same I still get that same feeling to this day.

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This is the fear.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And what's the name of the reservation? You don't

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have to say it on the podcast if you don't

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want to.

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Speaker 2: I'm just curious, Misscleral, okay, Missclero Patchy, all right?

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Speaker 1: And what else happened after that experience with your cousin

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pounding on the door saying she saw she she heard

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and saw creature across the road.

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Speaker 2: There was another time where my sister, one of my

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older sisters, were in the living room watching TV and

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back then we didn't have We just had sheer curtains

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on the windows, and it was hot that night, so

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she opened one of the windows and she was sitting

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near the window watching TV and she heard something by

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the window and she looked and something was standing there

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looking at her, and she said, it's it's dunk. So

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she ran back through the back and she was like, mom, Dad,

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something stinks outside. Something's outside, something's by the window looking

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at me. So my older sister, my older sister, she

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wasn't scared. She ran to the living room window and

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she shut it. And the next day my dad went

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outside to go check check around the house and they

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say he's seeing the flower bed. It was flat right

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where she was sitting by the window. All the flowers

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right there were flat. Wow.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so there was definitely something big there. And it

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makes me wonder how often are these creatures looking through

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people's windows, because that's a pretty common report, and it

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just makes me wonder how many people have had this

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experience but never knew that something was actually standing there.

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what else happened after that?

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Speaker 2: I remember one year, I remember the year of this one.

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accidentally took off his driver's side mirror. He accidentally hit

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a poll in it just fell off. And I remember

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we were going through the store one night and either

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way we have to go. If we want to go

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to Walmart, we have to drive about twenty thirty minutes,

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the store, it was already dark, and we're driving through

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a place called Dark Canyon. It's really dark, and we're

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on the lane nearest the median, and I remember there

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was a semi truck coming. That was the only light

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we could see. And there was a semi truck coming

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and just when it was passing, we've seen something standing

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in the on the median and it was so close

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to the truck that all we seen was hair hit

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the windshield and it was so close to the truck

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that it made it swerve a little. And at first

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my mom thought it was a trash bag, but as

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years passed, I realized that it was hair. It was

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long hair, and it was it reached to the middle

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of the windshield, that's how long the hair was. And

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my brother was like, did you see that? And he

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wanted to turn around. My mom was like, no, just

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keep going go home.

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Speaker 1: Wow, why do you think the creature was just standing there.

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Speaker 2: I think it was trying to cross because there's a

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canyon just right there. There's mountains either side of that canyon.

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it looked like it was trying to cross m hm.

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Speaker 1: And have you seen like other animals in the past

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things like that.

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Speaker 2: Just elk and deer, So it's.

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Speaker 1: Like it's like a natural crossing. Maybe it was hunting. Yeah,

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maybe I've noticed the sasquatch that I encountered. They were

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on the game trails, so I don't know if they're

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hunting or if all the animals use specific trails.

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the house in the nineties, we'd start hearing it whoop

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from the hill up above our house, and my dad

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and my uncle decided to hike the trail, the elk trail.

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down the road from a Baptist church, and so they

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decided to hike the trail, and as they were going up,

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they started seeing freshly broken tree limb was and it

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was it was it was placed across like across the path,

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and they grabbed it and the bottom it just looked

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like it was fresh, and it looked like toothpicks, and

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they were looking for where it came from, and they

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saw it not too far from the path and the

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break happened like a foot off the ground. So something

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just barely just snapped it off. It wasn't it was

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snapped off. It was a clean snap, about an inch

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and a half in diameter, And so they put the

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branch back and they hiked up all the way to

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the top, and my dad was saying that they started

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seeing scat up there, and both of them they're aviad hunters,

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and they didn't know what animal it was coming from,

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and they said it stunk really bad, and they were

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trying to see if they could see anything he or anything,

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but they didn't. They didn't that day, so they just

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's very interesting. And where I've heard vocalizations in

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the past, I've went to investigate the same way your

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your father did, and I would find tree structures and yeah,

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broken trees, limbs, and it was all very fresh. So yeah,

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that definitely makes sense. Your dad found the area where

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this creature was whooping at and you could tell because

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there was a sign in the area, and like you said,

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it was snapping these limbs and these these saplings like toothpicks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so it sounds like they're definitely living around the

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property and observing you guys. A lot of people have

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claim that were their entertainment. It does seem like that.

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They seem very interested in humans, and I feel like

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life can get boring out there, so they like to

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watch us. And I don't know, Okay, what else happened

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after that.

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Speaker 2: I remember I don't know if any other families do this,

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but our family did. We would camp out in the

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living room all the family. That night, we made a

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big giant bed on the floor in the living room.

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My grandma slept on the couch, and I remember it

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was in the middle of the night that my uncle

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and my cousin next door they called us. They called

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from my late brother and my dad and they were seeing,

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can you help us outside? Can you grab your flashlights?

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I remember hearing that from my mom. She was talking

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to my dad. My dad was telling her, and I

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could hear it from far away, but I was still sleeping.

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And this is where one of my first dreams that

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I like mashed up with reality. I was dreaming that

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they were chasing a bigfoot off of our property and

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you can hear it skidding on the loose gravel, and

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as it was running away, it was looking back and screaming.

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And in real life I could hear them yelling at it.

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It was like, I get out of here, and they

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were chasing it with flashlights, but I was seeing that

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in my dream as well, and as soon as it

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hit the pavement, it was just making slapping noise, really

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loud slapping noises, and it sounded like a herd of horses,

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but it was just one being, and all that time

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it was looking back and screaming. And years later, in

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twenty twenty one, or before my brother passed, he told

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his daughter about that story, and he told her exactly

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what I saw in my dream. He said it was

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the scariest night of his life when he had to

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chase it off the property with my dad and my

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uncle and my cousin. They chased it up until it

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ran across the road and up on the hill where

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my dad and I've seen that the scot and everything.

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Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, I've had similar dreams in the past where

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what I'm dreaming is exactly what happened, like when I

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woke up. And one example was my brother had his

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friend over staying the night, and I had a dream

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that his dad had a heart attack. And I woke

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up and I even said to myself, oh, man, Robbie's

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dad had a heart attack, Like it was such a

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real dream. And I was just kind of confused and

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like trying to convince myself that it was just a dream.

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But I noticed the door was cracked in my room.

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It was really dark in my room, but the door

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was cracked and I could see light in the crack

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and I could hear voices. So I got up to

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see what was going on, and I saw my dad

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standing in the living room with my brother and his

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friend Robbie, and I asked him what's going on, and

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my dad said, Robbie's dad had a heart attack and

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we're taking him home. I just thought that was the

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strangest thing because I dreamed it and woke up and

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that's what was happening. But yeah, I definitely believe your dream.

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So you were dreaming that they were chasing off this

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sasquatch creature and it was screaming as it was running away,

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And when you got up, what they experienced was pretty

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much identical to what you were dreaming.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I found out years later when my brother

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we told that story it was exactly how my dream was.

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Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, that's incredible. And in the Christian religion they

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say that God will contact us through our dreams, visions.

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You might hear a voice, have a feeling, et cetera.

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And yeah, I mean when I had those experiences, I

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was like, wow, that is I guess it's true, because

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when you just hear something like that, it just sounds fabricated,

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made up, like fantasy. But people are having strange dreams

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that seem to align with reality. And in your culture,

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is this a thing like being contacted through dreams, whether

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by crypto creatures or the divine? Have you heard anything

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about that through the natives or First Nations people?

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Speaker 2: Yes, I have dreams all the time.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, and they seem to line up with what's happening. Yeah. Yeah,

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dreams must be significant because there's like the Natives would

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use like dream catchers. I'm not sure exactly what they're for,

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but it seems like things can come into your dreams. Yeah, okay,

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And yeah, the the slappy noise that the creature made

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when his feet hit the pavement, that's pretty freaky. And yeah,

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the fact, oh man, Yeah, that's scary. I can't imagine

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how you felt hearing that and dreaming that. And they

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experienced it when they were out there. So they really

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were screaming at the creature and telling it to get

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out that really.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they were really yelling at it, yelling at it

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to get out of here and everything.

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Speaker 1: What experiences did he have prior to that before he

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contacted your family and told him to grab the flashlights

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and to come out there. What was happening before that?

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Did you ever hear anything about what they experienced before

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they went out there to chase off the creature.

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Speaker 2: I don't remember that part, but I think it was

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just outside they started chasing it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was either outside and similar to what was

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experienced before that, like where it was laying in a ditch,

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or it was like looking through the window, or like

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I don't know, hitting the side of the house. It's

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hard to say, but it was definitely on the property.

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Speaker 2: We know that yeah, or it was by the creek.

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We lived by a creek.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So you got the game trail the creek, you

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got forests around you, wildlife, you got a recipe for sasquatch.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Did you guys ever experience anything unexplainable there? I don't know.

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I call it supernatural, Some people call it. I don't

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know what they call it. But as far as like

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orbs anything like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually have a video of an ORB on

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the window camera, one of the window cameras. Yeah, I

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don't see orbs.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Okay, and I'll get into the the paranormal. I guess, yes,

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I continue.

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Speaker 1: What supernatural things have you experienced? And what science calls

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is just unexplainable? What unexplained mysteries have you experience?

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Speaker 2: It was June twenty twenty three, and it was just

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me and my nephew, my two daughters, and my late

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brother home, and we're all in the bo.

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Speaker 1: With all that being said, let's dive straight into Kathleen's

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Bigfoot encounters from the state of Alaska and the reservation

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in New Mexico.

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Speaker 2: Bedroom together and my brother was My brother was in

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his own room and we're watching YouTube and my daughters

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fell asleep and they were facing towards the east, and

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they had their bunk in facing for the east, their

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heads facing for the east. And so my nephew asked

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if we could watch I could try not to laugh

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video on YouTube, and we watched one video and as

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the video was switching, when it got really quiet. From

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behind me, I heard something whisper in my ear was

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like Ama, and it sounded just like my older daughter.

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But when I look back, there was nothing right there,

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and I realized. I just realized that my daughter was

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facing towards the other the opposite direction. And as I

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was looking back and trying to figure out what I

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just heard, my nephew turned to me. He was like,

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you heard that too, and that's when I freaked out

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and I thought he didn't hear it. And when I

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grabbed his hand and I said a prayer. I said

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a short prayer and that feeling of fear left. But

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not even five minutes later, my brother calls to his

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room and it was like, you guys, didn't hear that scream?

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And we're like no, because we were watching TV already,

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and he said something screamed outside and it sounded like

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it was running towards a side the side it's up.

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It's a neighborhood down the road from us, and it

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was facing for the rest of us. And that's where

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I heard that whisper and it sounded just like my

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older daughter, and it sounded like he said, it sounded

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like a woman screaming and running away.

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Speaker 1: Wow. So at the same time that you had this

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supernatural divine experience, there was cryptid activity taking place outside.

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Do you feel like it was some sort of warning?

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What are your thoughts about that.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I found it kind of freaky that

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it was in my daughter's voice, my older daughter's voice,

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and I really don't know what it was outside. I

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know my brother had his window open, but he didn't

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see anything. All he heard was the footsteps furning away.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've experienced similar. I wonder if it has anything

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to do with shoot. I don't know what they call it,

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like a dobble ganger. I can't remember what it is,

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but it's like a lookalikem yeah, like it mimics people.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's freaky. Yeah, it was this freaky experience. That

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was my first time. M hmm.

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Speaker 1: I've had a few experiences like that. One time, I

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was hanging out with my friend and his basement at

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his place and we were playing place. I think we

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were playing like Call of Duty or something, and there

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was just me and him down there. Nobody else was

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in the house. And I heard exactly it sounded just

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like his sister, and the voice was in my ear.

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I could feel the breath and it said Miguel, and

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I turned and I looked over and I said what

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as I was holding the PlayStation controller and there was

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nobody there. That scared me because it sounded just like

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his sister, and we were in a room. The door

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was shut, there was nobody else in there, but I

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heard a clear voice.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe it was a warning. I don't knowing nothing happened, but.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I have my own thoughts about that situation, but it's

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just too hard to say. But in your case, it

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does sound like it was warning you. When you heard

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mama like there was a sasquatch out there screaming its

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head off, And yeah, it definitely sounded like a was.

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Speaker 2: I just remember feeling the fear, and I know my

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nephew felt it too, and I prayed it your way

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and after it left. That's when it screamed. Yeah, but

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we didn't hear the scream because we were watching TV.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. It's always nice when you have somebody else

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around you who experiences the activity, even if it's like

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a pet, like if you have a dog and the

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dog's reacting to what you heard. But when you experience

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something like that by yourself, it really makes you question

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your own sanity. But yeah, it's good that you had

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your nephew there to be like, did you hear that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it took me a while to realize when I

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was hearing it. And he just grabbed his head and

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started praying.

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Speaker 1: And is it just like a prayer that you made

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up in the moment, or do you have like a

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certain prayer to a ward off evil?

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Speaker 2: It was just like I was just I grew up

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praying praying household. I just praid the fear away and

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like any kind of false spirit to leave this property

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in Jesus name. And I just said a simple prayer

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like that, and not even five minutes later, soon I

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Rother heard the screen because his window was open.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for me, that's an important clue because I definitely

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believe this phenomenon as far as the cryptids is tied

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into the supernatural, but I mean other people who are

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more take a more scientific approach, they would say, you know,

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that's just a coincidence. But yeah, for me, I feel

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like the Sasquatch their spiritual beings. What are your thoughts

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about that and what are your beliefs about the crypto creatures.

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Speaker 2: I believe they're spiritual beings, and I believe the young

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ones are in training to be spiritual. That's why they're

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like mainly tricksters or trouble make and they get scolded

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by the older ones.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and no doubt they're physical creatures, like they're getting

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into people's trash cans, they're hunting elk and deer. They

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leave tracks and leave signed behind. As far as tree structures, glyphs,

477
00:33:16,559 --> 00:33:22,279
broken branches, they make audible vocalizations. They're definitely real creatures,

478
00:33:22,359 --> 00:33:25,240
real physical creatures. But there seems to be something else

479
00:33:26,799 --> 00:33:30,839
beneath it, and I believe it's the supernatural. Science says

480
00:33:30,839 --> 00:33:34,119
it's just something that we can't explain, and there's got

481
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,400
to be a plausible explanation to why people are seeing

482
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:41,119
the orbs. And I just feel like they're dismissing the supernatural.

483
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,640
And that's why they're not getting anywhere with it, because you,

484
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:46,920
at some point you have to acknowledge that there is

485
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,279
a spiritual realm, there are other realms, and I don't know,

486
00:33:50,319 --> 00:33:53,240
people just relabel things as far as like calling something

487
00:33:53,359 --> 00:33:56,759
mind speak when all along there's been the term telepathy,

488
00:33:56,799 --> 00:33:59,880
it's the same thing. Or I don't know, they do

489
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:01,960
redubbed things, if that makes sense.

490
00:34:04,839 --> 00:34:12,119
Speaker 2: My dad's always saying something like, it's more real than

491
00:34:12,159 --> 00:34:16,119
the spirit. What we can't see is just as real

492
00:34:16,159 --> 00:34:17,239
as what we can see.

493
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with that, and I feel like the

494
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,960
spiritual realm is more it's a lot more real than

495
00:34:26,039 --> 00:34:28,480
our world. If anything, we're kind of living like in

496
00:34:28,519 --> 00:34:37,599
a matrix that's not as in depth as the spiritual realm. Yeah,

497
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:44,599
And what transpired after you heard the voice and there

498
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,239
was the creature outside screaming.

499
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:55,159
Speaker 2: I don't remember anything that happened. Nothing major happened, just

500
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,679
the scream.

501
00:34:57,679 --> 00:35:00,760
Speaker 1: But later on in your life what else unfolded? Days later,

502
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:08,239
years later, you had that video of the eyes that

503
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,639
you sent me. Can you tell me about the eyes?

504
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 2: Oh, it was June or January three, just this past

505
00:35:16,079 --> 00:35:21,159
January into twenty twenty six, and I remember that date

506
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:25,840
because I was one of the the nights that the

507
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:30,079
Seahawks played, and my mom was really texting me, like

508
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:34,679
the Seahawks is touch down. You're gonna come watch? And

509
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:39,480
I was like, okay, wait, mom, And I remember the

510
00:35:40,039 --> 00:35:42,800
My room was hot that that evening and it just

511
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:47,880
got dark and I was gonna I got up to

512
00:35:48,199 --> 00:35:54,920
close my window, my little bedroom window, and I noticed

513
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,639
what looked like ice coming from across the creek, and

514
00:35:59,679 --> 00:36:03,679
I tried to capture it on my my phone, but

515
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,840
it couldn't pick it up for some reason. So I

516
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:11,360
called my niece over to my window and I was like,

517
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:15,880
can your phone pick this up? With those eyes? There's

518
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:21,079
there's they look like eyes across the creek, And that's

519
00:36:21,079 --> 00:36:29,360
when she started recording, recording, and and you can see

520
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,440
in the video that we didn't know what we're looking

521
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:37,039
at at first. And I grabbed my flashlight and it

522
00:36:37,119 --> 00:36:42,800
turns like into a spotlight, and once we once I

523
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:47,719
shine the light on it, I can see black, like

524
00:36:48,079 --> 00:36:52,400
the silhouette of a black being. And that's what you

525
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:56,679
can see. My my hands started shaking because I knew

526
00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:01,239
what I was looking at. And I was really trying

527
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,079
to be brave holding the flashlight, but you can clearly

528
00:37:04,079 --> 00:37:10,480
see how I was shaken up. And I remember we

529
00:37:10,519 --> 00:37:14,079
recorded it for a little like a couple of minutes

530
00:37:14,159 --> 00:37:19,199
and it was still looking at us when we decided

531
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:24,079
to close the window, and I showed my dad and

532
00:37:24,119 --> 00:37:26,920
he ended up telling me that he's seen the same

533
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,519
eye eye shine from in that area three nights before,

534
00:37:30,599 --> 00:37:35,920
on December thirty first, like during the same time, like

535
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:37,800
around five six pm.

536
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 1: Oh wow, Yeah, so whatever it is, it's been showing

537
00:37:44,559 --> 00:37:48,880
up around the same time, the same the same time frame.

538
00:37:49,039 --> 00:37:51,800
So yeah, I saw the video that you shared. It's

539
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:53,920
really high off the ground. The eyes are really far,

540
00:37:54,199 --> 00:37:55,679
far apart. That's scary.

541
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 2: Right where it's standing, there's like a ball shape. It's

542
00:38:01,559 --> 00:38:04,840
like kind of deep too, So whatever that was was

543
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:05,519
pretty tall.

544
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:10,599
Speaker 1: Okay, So you've had a lot of experiences around your house,

545
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:16,039
on the property and in nearby areas. What do you

546
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:22,079
think are the sasquatches and tensions. Do you think they're evil?

547
00:38:22,159 --> 00:38:24,079
Do you think they're bad? Do you think they're guarding

548
00:38:24,119 --> 00:38:26,159
you guys? Because if they could have, if they wanted

549
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:27,960
to hurt you guys, they easily could have.

550
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 2: I think they just like to watch us as like

551
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:39,079
you said, they're just curious. Even though my grandma used

552
00:38:39,079 --> 00:38:42,719
to tell us not to bother it, it still shows

553
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,039
up and bothers us around the house.

554
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:51,599
Speaker 1: Yeah. And I've heard Native Americans call them the watchers,

555
00:38:51,639 --> 00:38:54,320
and that seems to be true. Like they're always observing

556
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:58,159
campers and watching people through their windows. They're outside in

557
00:38:58,199 --> 00:39:02,360
the woodline, just just watch. And could it just simply

558
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,960
be curiosity or are they up to something?

559
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,679
Speaker 2: I think they're pretty curious. I like it's like we're

560
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:14,639
they're television.

561
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, we really are, and they possibly want to get

562
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:23,719
into something, whether it's our trash cans we leave food

563
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:28,400
outside and maybe we're unknowingly attracting these creatures. Maybe there's

564
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:34,440
an apple tree out in the yard. Who knows. Yeah, Okay,

565
00:39:35,119 --> 00:39:38,639
And you could see the silhouette from the creature when

566
00:39:38,639 --> 00:39:40,280
you saw the eye shine, is that correct?

567
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 2: Yes? Wow, you could actually see black being black.

568
00:39:48,079 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 1: A lot of the eye shine that I've seen, I

569
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,320
couldn't see a silhouette, so it's hard to say what

570
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:57,800
it was. But in my earlier days, when I originally

571
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:01,920
had my encounters in twenty nineteen, I saw the eyes shine,

572
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,760
but like when I'd shine the light into the woods,

573
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:06,920
like it wouldn't penetrate into the woods. You can just

574
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:11,079
see the eyes glowing. And one of the sets of

575
00:40:11,119 --> 00:40:15,000
eyes rose up to about ten feet plus like an elevator.

576
00:40:15,599 --> 00:40:16,239
It was scary.

577
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:18,199
Speaker 2: Wow.

578
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,280
Speaker 1: But yeah, then again they were just watching. I don't

579
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,639
know what they're like, what they were up to. I

580
00:40:25,679 --> 00:40:28,360
know there was like a few foxes in the yard

581
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,679
and they were like crying out like a fox in

582
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,920
distress call. So I feel like it attracted the sasquatch

583
00:40:34,039 --> 00:40:36,840
that they came in to see what was going on.

584
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:39,639
Speaker 2: Wow.

585
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 1: And you said that happened like to your father in December,

586
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:49,480
and to you it happened in January twenty twenty six.

587
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,440
Does it get really cold there in New Mexico? Does

588
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,760
it stay the same temperature year round?

589
00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 2: It gets pretty cold during the winter months as low

590
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:07,440
as the twenties. Yeah, probably the teens, okay.

591
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,800
Speaker 1: And the other experiences that you've had in the past.

592
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,960
Can you recall there in the spring, the summer, the

593
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:13,599
fall time.

594
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:19,679
Speaker 2: The main ones in the nineties happened during the summertime.

595
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:25,760
In the two thousands, early two thousands and the early

596
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:29,320
twenty tens happened in the summertime because I didn't live

597
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:29,840
here yet.

598
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:35,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it sounds like these creatures are around the

599
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:40,400
property year round and they're possibly migrating from maybe one

600
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:44,159
county to another and using these game trails, and for

601
00:41:44,199 --> 00:41:46,079
some reason they like to stop by your place.

602
00:41:47,199 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 2: Yeah. My grandma mentioned that she would hear activity that

603
00:41:51,679 --> 00:41:54,440
year round because she used to live in that house

604
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,880
by herself. Well, my uncle was next door, but she

605
00:41:58,039 --> 00:41:59,480
lived in that house by herself.

606
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: Wow, and that's pretty wild. Do you experience activity in Alaska?

607
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,960
You'd hear these creatures howling and screaming, And then when

608
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,360
you moved to New Mexico or you moved back to

609
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,719
New Mexico, you're experiencing more activity.

610
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:26,519
Speaker 2: Yeah. I remember there was one time my parents had

611
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:31,480
some friends in Arizona. They would come visit during the

612
00:42:31,639 --> 00:42:35,599
Fourth of July because we used to have They used

613
00:42:35,639 --> 00:42:38,880
to come over for the Fourth of July. Even there

614
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:43,280
was a rodeo and everything. That's what they enjoyed with

615
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:49,840
their two granddaughters. And the last year they came, they

616
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:53,320
slept in a pop up tent. They decided to sleep

617
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:58,159
right next to the creek, and my grandma was warning there, like,

618
00:42:58,599 --> 00:43:01,559
you should sleep closer to the house, you might hear something.

619
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,800
I'm warning you right now, you should sleep too near

620
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:09,199
the house, not by the creek. And sure enough, that

621
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:14,360
night something picked up their their popped up tent slowly

622
00:43:15,159 --> 00:43:20,599
and slowly put them back down. And the next morning

623
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:24,639
they were all freaking out and my Grandma's like, I

624
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:30,480
told you, I tried to warn you, But ever since then,

625
00:43:30,519 --> 00:43:36,920
they haven't. That was the last time they came Wow,

626
00:43:37,199 --> 00:43:38,440
after they experienced that.

627
00:43:39,639 --> 00:43:42,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure that was a terrifying experience for them.

628
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 2: Yeah.

629
00:43:46,119 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds like they didn't appreciate them camping next

630
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,639
to the creek and possibly that's where they're living at

631
00:43:53,679 --> 00:43:54,760
where they want to be at.

632
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, in that area, that's where it's mainly it goes

633
00:44:00,079 --> 00:44:04,119
because it's right across from the driveway, the pavement driveway,

634
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,480
and you just walk straight and you just make it

635
00:44:07,559 --> 00:44:10,000
right to the creek.

636
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. I know you said you're a Christian, but do

637
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:23,280
you guys still hold your old beliefs from the Native Americans, Like,

638
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,880
do you guys utilize any of that information anymore? I mean,

639
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:30,960
it's your culture, it's where you came from. But what

640
00:44:31,119 --> 00:44:33,639
beliefs do you still carry to this day that your

641
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:38,599
people told you about as far as cryptids or anything supernatural.

642
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 2: I just know I was always told just to respect

643
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:50,159
them and they'll respect you. We're really big on respect

644
00:44:50,159 --> 00:44:53,760
on either part of my culture apache and you back,

645
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:56,800
respect is a big part of our culture.

646
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:03,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, that definitely makes sense. And I've heard nay

647
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:08,760
have call them the guardians of the forests, and they're

648
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:12,280
kind of the police officers of the woods. So if

649
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,199
you're doing something wrong, they're going to let you know

650
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:15,719
about it.

651
00:45:19,639 --> 00:45:22,199
Speaker 2: And I believe that they know if you're good or bad.

652
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:24,360
They just watch you all the time.

653
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:34,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe that. And it sounds like they hung

654
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,519
around the house because you guys are good people. They

655
00:45:37,559 --> 00:45:41,079
trusted you guys, and they felt safe to be around

656
00:45:41,119 --> 00:45:42,840
you guys compared to other people in the area.

657
00:45:47,159 --> 00:45:51,039
Speaker 2: I don't know too much of other people's experiences on

658
00:45:51,079 --> 00:45:58,519
the reservation, right We've been experiencing pretty a lot since

659
00:45:58,559 --> 00:46:05,079
the nineties here, And I remember in Christmas two thousand

660
00:46:05,119 --> 00:46:11,599
and five, we actually went here and it just snowed,

661
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:15,440
and I asked my younger sister if she wanted to

662
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:19,000
go outside. We had nothing to do, and I wanted

663
00:46:19,039 --> 00:46:25,400
to just be outside in the snow, and right next

664
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,039
to our house there's an apple tree. Right next to

665
00:46:28,079 --> 00:46:32,320
the apple tree, I seen really big quot prints and

666
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:37,039
they were facing towards the front door. And I ran

667
00:46:37,119 --> 00:46:40,880
to my sister and I told her what I seen.

668
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:48,119
So we both decided to follow the trail. You could

669
00:46:48,159 --> 00:46:52,159
see it turn around in the snow, and it was

670
00:46:52,199 --> 00:46:56,320
walking in a straight line. It wasn't walking It looked

671
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:59,519
like it wasn't walking too fast, but it was in

672
00:46:59,559 --> 00:47:04,280
a straight line and it made like a a U

673
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:08,760
turn and it went through the yard in front of

674
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:13,079
our house. There's a blue spruce tree, and it stopped

675
00:47:13,159 --> 00:47:16,599
right there and it turned towards the house, and that

676
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,360
right where it turned. It it's facing towards the back

677
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,719
porch and you can see it make another U turn

678
00:47:24,159 --> 00:47:28,079
and it went. It walked all the way down the

679
00:47:28,159 --> 00:47:32,719
field on our property. We followed it all the way

680
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:39,079
down into my uncle's yard and at the fence. At

681
00:47:39,159 --> 00:47:42,360
the fence line is when we stopped because it got

682
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:46,559
quiet and we felt like we're being watched, and so

683
00:47:46,679 --> 00:47:50,639
we just calmly walked back. But that's what we've seen

684
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:51,239
that morning.

685
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 1: Wow. That's pretty intense. How big do you think the

686
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:56,480
tracks were?

687
00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:08,800
Speaker 2: They were huge, probably about fifteen to seventeen inches. Really,

688
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:12,480
why too? Back then we didn't have a camera or

689
00:48:12,519 --> 00:48:14,320
anything to measure it.

690
00:48:18,119 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, giant teens.

691
00:48:23,559 --> 00:48:24,639
Speaker 2: Yeah.

692
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:27,519
Speaker 1: Wow. What year did you say that happened? Then?

693
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:30,039
Speaker 2: Christmas two thousand and five?

694
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:33,320
Speaker 1: Okay, two thousand and five, I wrote down twenty twenty five,

695
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:37,400
my bad. And do you find yourself staring out the

696
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,760
window looking for these creatures, like leaving your house and

697
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,039
looking into the woodline, wondering where they are?

698
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 2: Yes, all the time, like ooh, what if I see

699
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:51,239
it run across right here? I would remember all these

700
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,679
stories and ooh what if I see it?

701
00:48:54,599 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 1: Yeah? Absolutely, And I think that's why I.

702
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:58,039
Speaker 2: Said I've actually seen it before.

703
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that's why certain people have more experiences,

704
00:49:01,079 --> 00:49:03,679
because once you know they're there, you've seen them or

705
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:08,679
you've found evidence you're looking for them, So you're having

706
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:11,320
more experiences later down the road because you're not just

707
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,880
oblivious to it, like most people who hear something and say, oh,

708
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:16,840
that was just an hour, that's probably people out in

709
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,400
the woods, and or they don't even acknowledge it, like

710
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,039
it doesn't register through their brain.

711
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

712
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,679
Speaker 1: Wow, do you ever leave anything for the sasquatch? Like,

713
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:31,840
have you ever put any apples out there or try

714
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,719
to talk to them or interact with them in any

715
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:35,280
sort of way.

716
00:49:37,039 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 2: Well, like I said, we have an apple tree right

717
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:41,400
next to our host. We have a pear tree in

718
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:46,960
the back of our house. We have an apricot tree

719
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:54,039
next to the apple tree. And just last year, last October,

720
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:59,800
there was still apples in the tree, and we noticed

721
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:04,559
there was a pile of white mushrooms that were they

722
00:50:04,599 --> 00:50:10,199
were underneath a part of the tree that where the

723
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:14,599
apples were gone. One whole side of the tree. All

724
00:50:14,639 --> 00:50:18,360
the apples were gone, and there was just a pile

725
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:22,000
of white mushroom, really big white mushrooms.

726
00:50:22,679 --> 00:50:26,519
Speaker 1: Wow. So they left you guys a gift. Essentially, they

727
00:50:26,559 --> 00:50:27,639
traded with you guys.

728
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:30,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I figured.

729
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, where I had my encounters, we had a pear

730
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:39,440
tree and it would usually be loaded with pears, and

731
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,480
maybe that's why they were around. I think it was

732
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:45,159
two years ago. It was full of pairs, and I thought,

733
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:48,360
it just needs another two weeks then it'll be ready

734
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:51,199
for me to to take a few pairs because I

735
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:54,239
had already tried them and they were they're a little bitter.

736
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:58,480
So I just waited and shortly after that, every single

737
00:50:58,519 --> 00:51:01,360
pair was gone, and it just blew my mind. I'm like, man,

738
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,719
the raccoons, Like, there's no way they could eat that

739
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:06,639
many pairs in one single night.

740
00:51:09,119 --> 00:51:09,519
Speaker 2: Wow.

741
00:51:11,039 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I wonder if it was a sasquatch.

742
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:15,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was.

743
00:51:16,159 --> 00:51:18,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, the pear trees right next to the woodline where

744
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:19,320
I've seen them before.

745
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:26,639
Speaker 2: Wow. My mom noticed the mushrooms and she was wondering

746
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:30,159
how they were so big, because the one we get

747
00:51:30,199 --> 00:51:34,159
from the store or it's just like half the size

748
00:51:34,159 --> 00:51:38,960
of that. Those mushrooms we've seen, you're probably both the

749
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:42,800
size of the apples. Wow.

750
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:47,639
Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm curious as to what type of mushrooms they were.

751
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 2: I have a video of it. I don't know, they're

752
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:57,840
just white. Yeah, they were taste on the ground.

753
00:51:59,079 --> 00:52:01,639
Speaker 1: It might be important to find out which ones what

754
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:04,559
type of mushrooms they were, and if people ever try

755
00:52:04,599 --> 00:52:07,679
to like gift in the future, leave them food and

756
00:52:08,039 --> 00:52:11,880
it'll be important to use those specific types of mushrooms

757
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:13,760
and maybe they'll get more interaction with them.

758
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 2: Okay, there was another time that we had a party.

759
00:52:23,599 --> 00:52:27,760
This was back into the two thousand somewhere. We just

760
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,400
had a party and my sister and I, my younger

761
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:33,079
sister and I, we usually sit on the back porch

762
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:38,800
when it's nice and cool at night, and there was

763
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:45,199
an aluminum pan full of leftover meat, leftover bones and fat.

764
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:47,960
They were all in that aluminum pan, and they was

765
00:52:48,039 --> 00:52:52,239
on the porch, the back porch with us, and we

766
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:55,239
were really talking and laughing away, and it got dark

767
00:52:55,239 --> 00:53:02,280
on us and we did the same thing. We were like,

768
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:04,000
you know, what if it's watching us, because we were

769
00:53:04,039 --> 00:53:07,960
felt like we were being watched, and so we ran

770
00:53:08,039 --> 00:53:12,039
inside it and we went to our room. Our window

771
00:53:12,119 --> 00:53:16,039
was open, and we heard a rustling noise, so we

772
00:53:16,159 --> 00:53:24,199
checked that whole pan was gone, and my younger sister

773
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:26,719
went to the restroom and she came back. By the

774
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:29,159
time it came back, we heard the same rustling noise,

775
00:53:29,199 --> 00:53:32,719
and we looked out the window and that pan was back. Right,

776
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:35,400
we're in the same spot, and we didn't want to

777
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:39,079
check that night to see if it was empty, but

778
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:43,039
we waited till the next morning, and sure enough, the

779
00:53:43,079 --> 00:53:46,639
whole thing was empty. There was not one piece of

780
00:53:47,559 --> 00:53:51,159
bone or anything left in that pan, So it was

781
00:53:51,199 --> 00:53:54,599
probably watching us, waiting for us to move so we

782
00:53:54,639 --> 00:53:57,440
can get a pan of goodies.

783
00:54:00,079 --> 00:54:04,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, it does sound like it. And did your family

784
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:07,159
ever talk with any other families on the reservation and

785
00:54:07,199 --> 00:54:09,679
ask them if they've experienced activity as well?

786
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 2: Yes, just not too long ago, just a couple of

787
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:21,000
days ago. I was talking to my mom about what

788
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:24,400
I'm going to be doing on here, and she was

789
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:26,679
telling me her stories, and we were talking about all

790
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:31,480
these stories. And that morning tribal maintenance came and one

791
00:54:31,519 --> 00:54:35,239
of the guys I stopped us and my mom told

792
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:38,360
them what we're doing. We're talking about bifferent And he

793
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:41,960
ended up saying where he lives is deeper into the

794
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:45,480
mountains and he says there's a family of a family

795
00:54:45,519 --> 00:54:49,360
of Tasquatch living in near his property. And he says

796
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:53,719
there's big ones, little ones, and really small baby ones,

797
00:54:54,039 --> 00:54:58,360
and there would be outside on his property and he

798
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:04,760
said he just wouldn't bother them.

799
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:07,519
Speaker 1: Wow, I wonder if it's the same family group that

800
00:55:07,559 --> 00:55:09,239
you guys have encountered.

801
00:55:10,679 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 2: Maybe, because that's pretty close to where, not too close,

802
00:55:15,519 --> 00:55:16,840
but a couple of mountains over.

803
00:55:21,039 --> 00:55:23,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, that wouldn't be too far away for a sasquatch

804
00:55:24,039 --> 00:55:29,239
to travel around. But also there could be different family

805
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:33,400
groups in the same area as far as like cousins

806
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:38,119
and uncles and other siblings. Maybe they split off and

807
00:55:38,159 --> 00:55:39,159
make their own families.

808
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:46,639
Speaker 2: And there's a place on top there's watch towers in

809
00:55:46,679 --> 00:55:49,519
the mountains. In one by one of the watch towers,

810
00:55:50,159 --> 00:55:54,519
people would see a family of it living near in

811
00:55:54,599 --> 00:55:59,719
those in the area, because I guess they would be

812
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:06,400
part be up there, and they they would see a

813
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:09,840
big one, a little one, and a really small one

814
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:12,079
walk out of the tree line and look at them

815
00:56:12,079 --> 00:56:16,679
and walk back into the tree line, and it was

816
00:56:16,679 --> 00:56:18,480
seen by multiple people up there.

817
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:26,039
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, that's absolutely incredible. Did your family ever hunt, like,

818
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:31,159
did they go elk hunting? And I don't know outdoor activities.

819
00:56:32,559 --> 00:56:35,519
Speaker 2: Yes, my dad used to hunt a lot as you

820
00:56:35,559 --> 00:56:38,400
grew up in Alaska. My uncle is a hunter, my

821
00:56:38,599 --> 00:56:43,679
cousin is a hunter. My late brother actually hunted a

822
00:56:43,679 --> 00:56:49,400
lot too, both down here and up there in Alaska.

823
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 1: I feel like hunters unknownly interact with the sasquatch when

824
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:57,840
they're sitting out there for hours or just hunting game

825
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:02,119
species in general, or even fish, and sometimes the sasquatch

826
00:57:02,119 --> 00:57:03,239
will follow you back home.

827
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:12,360
Speaker 2: I remember my dad just told me yesterday that they

828
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:17,840
were hunting one time in Alaska and they wanted to

829
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:22,079
conserve gas, so they decided to turn the motor off

830
00:57:22,119 --> 00:57:26,360
and just started floating down the river and on the hill.

831
00:57:26,519 --> 00:57:29,800
He said, there was something tall and black just looking

832
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:31,679
at them floating by.

833
00:57:33,599 --> 00:57:45,159
Speaker 1: I think, wow, Yeah, that's incredible. And yeah, the fact

834
00:57:45,199 --> 00:57:48,559
that other family members have encountered the sasquatch in the

835
00:57:48,639 --> 00:57:51,719
area and they have seen them, like you said, multiple people,

836
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:58,400
that's truly extraordinary. And I just feel like these creatures

837
00:57:58,559 --> 00:58:02,039
want to be left alone, but sometimes they interact with

838
00:58:02,159 --> 00:58:06,079
people and they get caught out in the open. But

839
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:10,760
up in Alaska, I hear that the sasquatch aren't as friendly,

840
00:58:11,559 --> 00:58:15,199
and it could be due to the fact that they're

841
00:58:15,199 --> 00:58:19,440
not as acclimated as a sasquatch or like out here

842
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:21,800
in the Lower forty eight they're used to seeing people,

843
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:25,000
but up there in Alaska they're not as used to

844
00:58:25,079 --> 00:58:28,239
people as they are here, so maybe they get a

845
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:31,480
little bit more grumpy more that it's just a completely

846
00:58:31,519 --> 00:58:34,480
different plan a sasquatch up there, and a completely different

847
00:58:34,519 --> 00:58:39,239
mindset or a different type of Sasquatch. It's hard to say.

848
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I always thought Bigfoot wasn't in Alaska when I

849
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:47,239
was growing up, but come to find out it actually wasn't.

850
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:53,880
They I think we actually heard it howling. It was

851
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:57,960
in the late nineties, and back then, my mom had

852
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:02,480
a sleepover the school. She was a third grade teacher,

853
00:59:02,679 --> 00:59:07,760
and that night my dad told scary stories and big

854
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:13,599
Foot stories and he played them vocalizations from the Beer

855
00:59:13,679 --> 00:59:20,840
Furrow website. And next day I, me and my younger

856
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:26,880
sister and my cousin were walking home and my parents

857
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:31,039
were still cleaning up the classroom and we're in the

858
00:59:31,079 --> 00:59:36,000
middle of going home, and it was really quiet that morning,

859
00:59:37,199 --> 00:59:39,440
like the whole town was quiet. There was nobody out.

860
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:43,360
It was about eight thirty nine o'clock in the morning,

861
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:52,280
and I remember it was wintertime and there's a dump

862
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:56,519
site on the outskirts of town and on the west

863
00:59:56,599 --> 00:59:59,960
side of the town, and on that side we started

864
01:00:00,159 --> 01:00:04,719
hearing something howling. It did it three times, and it

865
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:08,599
was just really loud. We thought it was the siren

866
01:00:08,719 --> 01:00:12,519
going off because there's like a curfew siren, but it

867
01:00:12,559 --> 01:00:15,840
wasn't coming from that part of the town. It was

868
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:22,480
coming from the dump area and it was just like ooo.

869
01:00:22,599 --> 01:00:27,840
And then when it stopped, it was like oohoo like that,

870
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:31,239
and it did that three times. By the third time,

871
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:36,800
we were running home and all those dogs that are

872
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:40,519
near in the neighborhood, like just not too far from

873
01:00:40,599 --> 01:00:45,880
the dumps, they started barking. They started barking hard. And

874
01:00:47,239 --> 01:00:50,320
when I told my mom that story, she ended up

875
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:54,039
telling me there was one lady walking to work. She

876
01:00:54,119 --> 01:00:58,840
worked at the school, and there's a road where there's

877
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:03,800
no roads in the town, just boardwalks, and she was

878
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:07,400
walking to work on the boardwalk. It's not too far

879
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:10,159
from the dumps, and she looked towards the dump area

880
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:14,239
and she said she's seen a big man and all

881
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:21,679
black looking through that trash. And I thought that was freaky.

882
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:27,360
And I always thought sasquatch wasn't up there in Alaska.

883
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:29,119
I thought I was. I thought we were a big

884
01:01:29,199 --> 01:01:32,119
quit free.

885
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:37,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is scary. And the way you describe the

886
01:01:37,559 --> 01:01:42,039
vocalizations is very similar to audio recordings that I've heard

887
01:01:42,079 --> 01:01:46,039
in the past. And Yeah, I've wondered if these things

888
01:01:46,079 --> 01:01:51,400
would get into dumps and look for food, because just

889
01:01:51,519 --> 01:01:53,880
the smell of it, I feel like it would attract

890
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:59,760
all kinds of predators. Yeah, then your grandmother seeing something

891
01:02:00,159 --> 01:02:05,679
like a huge man in there just solidifies everything. That's

892
01:02:05,719 --> 01:02:06,679
definitely what it was.

893
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:12,320
Speaker 2: There was one time. It was in the nineties as well,

894
01:02:12,519 --> 01:02:19,679
and back then my aunt was a teacher and her

895
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:23,840
husband was a teacher as well, and they lived on

896
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:27,199
outskirts of town and sometimes they would have to walk

897
01:02:27,239 --> 01:02:34,079
to work and it would be dark, and my uncle

898
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:37,480
was in front of her holding the flashlight, and my

899
01:02:37,559 --> 01:02:41,039
aunt was walking behind him. And I don't know if

900
01:02:41,039 --> 01:02:46,440
he was walking, like stepping on the footprints or beside it,

901
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:53,079
or guiding her like away from the footprints. But when

902
01:02:53,079 --> 01:02:56,519
they reached the boardwalks, he said he was seeing really

903
01:02:56,639 --> 01:03:02,320
huge footprints on the boardwalk. It was just beginning to

904
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:08,280
get frosty, and he thought it was really weird. And

905
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:11,639
I don't know if he was stepping on the footprints

906
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:15,920
or guiding her away from the footprints. But my mom

907
01:03:16,079 --> 01:03:19,719
said late not too long after that, he got really sick.

908
01:03:21,199 --> 01:03:24,480
He couldn't even get out of bed anything, and come

909
01:03:24,559 --> 01:03:28,400
to find out he had walking pneumonia. So I don't

910
01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:35,199
know if it was related to that incident or not. Yeah,

911
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:37,559
of the footprints in the snow.

912
01:03:39,079 --> 01:03:41,679
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's a possibility. When you first described

913
01:03:41,679 --> 01:03:44,159
it made me wonder if he got hit by infra sound,

914
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:47,400
But since he had walked pneumonia, it's hard to say

915
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:50,159
what happened there. But you never know there could be

916
01:03:50,239 --> 01:03:50,679
a connection.

917
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:54,880
Speaker 2: M I was always told not to step in there,

918
01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:59,360
not to step in the footprints, because my grandma would

919
01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:02,519
tell me, don't step anymore. You're gonna dream about it

920
01:04:02,639 --> 01:04:08,360
or you're gonna see it, And so she would always tell.

921
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:13,559
Speaker 1: Me, yeah, it could be a possibility.

922
01:04:14,719 --> 01:04:15,159
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

923
01:04:19,159 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 1: Okay, And do you plan on doing any research in

924
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:29,639
the future, just hiking trails to look for them, or

925
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:32,000
do you think they should just be left alone and

926
01:04:32,039 --> 01:04:36,519
you don't want anything to do with them?

927
01:04:36,599 --> 01:04:41,039
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. In reality, I don't even have to leave

928
01:04:41,079 --> 01:04:46,199
my house. They come near our house too. But ever

929
01:04:46,199 --> 01:04:50,519
since we put up the the cameras, there's one in

930
01:04:50,559 --> 01:04:54,559
my bedroom, the one I recorded out of the little window,

931
01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:59,159
and we put one in the living room window. They're

932
01:04:59,199 --> 01:05:04,079
both facing where is the creek. Ever since then we

933
01:05:04,159 --> 01:05:08,840
haven't seen anything. But I actually had a dream about that,

934
01:05:10,639 --> 01:05:16,039
Like shortly after putting up the second camera, I was

935
01:05:16,119 --> 01:05:23,239
dreaming that right where we've seen the eye shine. In

936
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:27,599
that area, there was a portal right there and it

937
01:05:27,639 --> 01:05:31,119
looked like a portal from Minecraft. I don't know if

938
01:05:31,119 --> 01:05:35,360
you ever seen those, but they but it was an

939
01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:40,800
oval shaped portal and it was really big and it

940
01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:44,239
was dark gray and it looked staticky, and there was

941
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:48,519
a lot of bigfoot walking out of there. And what

942
01:05:48,639 --> 01:05:51,960
freaked me out was the little one because I haven't

943
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:56,639
seen those before. They were not even that tall, probably

944
01:05:56,639 --> 01:06:01,159
like three or four feet, and there was big ones

945
01:06:01,199 --> 01:06:05,519
and little ones. The biggest one walked out of that

946
01:06:05,599 --> 01:06:12,039
portal and it was huge and it had gray hair.

947
01:06:13,199 --> 01:06:16,679
It looked like it had a long gray beard and

948
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:19,320
just gray all over its body. And it was the

949
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:23,800
biggest one and I could see it in detail, the

950
01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:26,840
face and everything. It looked like a man. It didn't

951
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:29,280
have any face on its hair, but it had face

952
01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:34,280
around it, I mean hair around it. And I actually

953
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:38,280
heard it talking in my dream, like the samurai talk,

954
01:06:40,159 --> 01:06:46,239
and it was pointing towards the cameras in the living

955
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:49,039
room in my bedroom. It was pointing to the camera

956
01:06:49,679 --> 01:06:53,719
where it was faced, and it was pointing to the

957
01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:59,480
group it was with. And I can't even I can't

958
01:06:59,519 --> 01:07:04,360
even do the samurai talk. It was just like, oh,

959
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:11,320
like really deep, really deep guttural voice talking. And I

960
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:14,159
figured that it was telling them that we have to

961
01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:18,239
leave this place, this area, We have to move down

962
01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:24,440
the stream, and we can't be seen on camera. And

963
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:28,199
it was getting after the ones that almost got caught

964
01:07:28,239 --> 01:07:33,159
on camera. And I actually have a video of of

965
01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:37,719
something like a shadowy being or something on the top

966
01:07:39,559 --> 01:07:43,239
the top of the head that passed my bedroom window camera.

967
01:07:43,719 --> 01:07:51,360
And I have a video of of a shadow near

968
01:07:51,440 --> 01:08:00,559
our truck and it looked really tall. But in my dream,

969
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:04,559
they started packing up their things. They started packing up

970
01:08:04,599 --> 01:08:09,119
their things that they stole from people's yards. They stole

971
01:08:09,159 --> 01:08:14,679
a lot of clothes, cans, They started picking up the

972
01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:17,119
little one was starting to pick up toys that they

973
01:08:17,159 --> 01:08:23,359
stole from little kids. They picked up blankets, stuffed animals

974
01:08:23,399 --> 01:08:27,279
like toys, and they were just gathering their things and

975
01:08:27,359 --> 01:08:34,159
they started walking downstream. And whoever live by the creek downstream,

976
01:08:34,359 --> 01:08:37,880
you can just hear them screaming because they were just

977
01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:44,000
seeing a group of sasquatch walk through their property. And

978
01:08:44,239 --> 01:08:48,439
whenever the families were screaming, they were just screaming back

979
01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:52,279
at them. And that's when I woke up. I remember,

980
01:08:52,279 --> 01:08:55,760
I woke up crying, and I haven't heard that before.

981
01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:03,199
Speaker 1: Wow, that's really I wonder if there's a family down

982
01:09:03,239 --> 01:09:05,479
the road that's experiencing activity.

983
01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:11,239
Speaker 2: Now maybe it's my guess, but I noticed ever since then,

984
01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:15,119
it wouldn't come to the front of the house. There's

985
01:09:15,199 --> 01:09:17,960
more activity in the back of the house, where there's

986
01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:22,920
no cameras and where it's more dark. Yeah, there's not

987
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:29,680
too long after that. Yeah, in May, my parents were

988
01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:39,399
bedroom window. Bedroom is near the back porch, and early

989
01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:41,960
in the morning, my mom gets up and gets ready

990
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:47,479
for dialysis, and my dad was still in bed, and

991
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:50,359
his bed is right next to the window. And he

992
01:09:50,399 --> 01:09:54,319
said he started hearing something on the back porch, like rumbling,

993
01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:57,520
and he didn't know what it was. He thought it

994
01:09:57,560 --> 01:10:02,119
was my mom getting ready, so he paid no attention

995
01:10:02,239 --> 01:10:05,439
to it. He waited till daylight and he opened a

996
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:09,840
blind and there was a table right next to his window,

997
01:10:11,439 --> 01:10:17,199
and he said it was moved. He said, whatever that

998
01:10:17,399 --> 01:10:19,840
was moved the window and trying to open his window,

999
01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:23,720
I mean hit the table. He tried to move the

1000
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:28,399
table and tried to open his window. I thought that

1001
01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:29,359
was pretty freaky.

1002
01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:34,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is really freaky, and your dream's not too

1003
01:10:34,319 --> 01:10:36,439
far out there. A lot of people have theory eyes

1004
01:10:36,439 --> 01:10:39,840
that these creatures are utilizing portals and coming in from

1005
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:46,079
other dimensions to gather resources, whether it's gathering food, killing deer,

1006
01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:48,720
or whatever they need, and they go back to wherever

1007
01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:54,119
they come from. It's a plausible explanation because we don't

1008
01:10:54,119 --> 01:10:56,479
find bones. People have found tracks in snow that just

1009
01:10:56,520 --> 01:11:00,319
seemed to disappear. They see and witness the ore herbs

1010
01:11:00,359 --> 01:11:05,840
appearing and disappearing along with bigfoot activity. That's not an

1011
01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:08,239
isolated event where people just see orbs. I mean, it

1012
01:11:08,319 --> 01:11:10,960
can be a lot of times it is, but there

1013
01:11:11,039 --> 01:11:15,159
are times where people see these orbs along with hearing woodenknocks,

1014
01:11:15,199 --> 01:11:19,840
trees being pushed over, whoops, vocalizations, finding tree structures, et cetera.

1015
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:26,199
Speaker 2: Ever since putting up the cameras, it's all I see

1016
01:11:26,279 --> 01:11:30,079
is orbs now mainly in the front area.

1017
01:11:31,079 --> 01:11:35,439
Speaker 1: And do you guys ever hear like metal banging out

1018
01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:37,960
in the woods. A lot of people say that's associated

1019
01:11:38,039 --> 01:11:38,640
with the portal.

1020
01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:44,880
Speaker 2: I actually heard that a couple of weeks ago. It's

1021
01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:47,520
just like playing like two times, and that's all I

1022
01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:51,239
heard and it was late at night, and I don't

1023
01:11:51,279 --> 01:11:57,800
know what I heard, but it sounded like it was

1024
01:11:59,359 --> 01:12:03,239
near the creek where I seen that eye shine. Wow.

1025
01:12:04,199 --> 01:12:06,720
Speaker 1: And do you hear what knocks around the property often?

1026
01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:17,800
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, not too often, but we would hear whoops,

1027
01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:24,279
a lot of woo whooping sounds. Yeah, it was one

1028
01:12:24,319 --> 01:12:28,279
time in twenty twenty three. I was outside talking on

1029
01:12:28,319 --> 01:12:32,239
the phone and my niece went inside and I was

1030
01:12:32,279 --> 01:12:37,279
outside by myself, and while I was on the phone,

1031
01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:41,279
I heard one single whoop near the creek and I

1032
01:12:41,279 --> 01:12:43,840
thought it was a drunk person because it sounded like

1033
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:49,279
a really big man. And I thought I was going

1034
01:12:49,359 --> 01:12:55,159
to hear a drunk person start yelling, but it was

1035
01:12:55,239 --> 01:12:58,479
just that one time. It was just like whoop and

1036
01:12:58,520 --> 01:13:02,479
then nothing else. So I just inside after that.

1037
01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:09,800
Speaker 1: Yeah. And did you guys put curtains over the windows

1038
01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:10,920
after those incidents?

1039
01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:19,279
Speaker 2: Yes? Actually, but the windows, all the windows blackout curtains.

1040
01:13:20,239 --> 01:13:22,880
Speaker 1: M Yeah, I don't blame it.

1041
01:13:23,039 --> 01:13:28,239
Speaker 2: Bedroom, my daughter's bedroom, the living room, they all have

1042
01:13:28,359 --> 01:13:29,680
blackout curtains.

1043
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:37,319
Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm sure that helps deter the sasquatch, along with

1044
01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:41,159
the trail cameras. And I mean it's hard to say,

1045
01:13:41,159 --> 01:13:43,760
if it pushes them to the next county over, but

1046
01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:47,000
it definitely keeps them at bay, keeps them from coming

1047
01:13:47,039 --> 01:13:47,680
up closer.

1048
01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:54,079
Speaker 2: Because before we put up the cameras, we'll get handprints

1049
01:13:54,199 --> 01:13:56,920
all the time on my bedroom window and my daughter's

1050
01:13:56,920 --> 01:14:01,119
bedroom window, only on our windows, nowhere else in the house.

1051
01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:08,079
And I was wondering, why is it. It's probably attracted

1052
01:14:08,119 --> 01:14:14,359
to women and children, as I've heard before, but I

1053
01:14:14,399 --> 01:14:18,840
have pictures of a really big conference. And there was

1054
01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:22,439
one time that it actually broke my little bedroom window.

1055
01:14:23,680 --> 01:14:27,159
It was about four o'clock in the morning. I heard

1056
01:14:27,199 --> 01:14:30,880
a pop on my window, and I didn't check because

1057
01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:34,439
I was really tired that that time. So I went

1058
01:14:34,479 --> 01:14:42,079
back to sleep, and it was January, and so it

1059
01:14:42,159 --> 01:14:44,680
was really cold when I woke up, and I was

1060
01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:48,039
wondering why I woke up really cold, and I opened

1061
01:14:48,039 --> 01:14:51,560
the curtain and my window was pushed in and it

1062
01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:56,880
was barely hanging on. And I ran to my dad

1063
01:14:56,960 --> 01:15:00,960
right away, and I didn't even to take a picture

1064
01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:05,079
of it how it looked, because I just ran straight

1065
01:15:05,119 --> 01:15:07,479
to my dad. I was just like, I just gasped

1066
01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:10,720
and I ran to my dad and he fixed it

1067
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:15,920
right away. But I have pictures of the the fingerprints

1068
01:15:16,039 --> 01:15:19,119
or it pushed it in and it's like holding onto

1069
01:15:19,239 --> 01:15:23,199
the corners and you can see the hand that pushed

1070
01:15:23,239 --> 01:15:25,520
it in.

1071
01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:27,399
Speaker 1: Oh wow, yeah, you'll have to send that to me.

1072
01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:30,119
Did you notice anything unusual about the handprint, like was

1073
01:15:30,159 --> 01:15:33,000
it really greasy? Looking into the dermal ridges.

1074
01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:41,079
Speaker 2: The fingers are really long and they look dirty greasy

1075
01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:46,760
because it left the good, good and good imprint on

1076
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:50,760
the window, like really clear.

1077
01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:58,720
Speaker 1: Yeah. And do you anticipate more activity to take place

1078
01:15:58,760 --> 01:15:59,319
in the future.

1079
01:16:01,239 --> 01:16:06,800
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm pretty sure it'll keep coming around because

1080
01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:09,640
we do live by a creek and it's always getting

1081
01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:14,560
stocked up with fish by the tribe. There's always fish

1082
01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:15,239
in that creek.

1083
01:16:17,159 --> 01:16:22,439
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, I would Yeah, I would bet they're going

1084
01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:26,000
to come back, especially if there's running water consistently in

1085
01:16:26,039 --> 01:16:29,880
the creek. It has fish and you got apple trees

1086
01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:31,560
and yeah.

1087
01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:34,000
Speaker 2: Plus we don't have any dogs at the moment, just

1088
01:16:34,039 --> 01:16:34,439
the cat.

1089
01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:40,279
Speaker 1: Well, definitely pay attention to the cat and how it

1090
01:16:40,359 --> 01:16:45,000
reacts to anything around. I feel like the cat would

1091
01:16:45,079 --> 01:16:48,720
start acting a little finicky if these creatures were outside

1092
01:16:48,720 --> 01:16:49,159
in the yard.

1093
01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:53,359
Speaker 2: Yeah. I actually have a little story about that. I

1094
01:16:53,359 --> 01:16:57,239
don't know if it's Bigfoot related. But I remember it

1095
01:16:57,319 --> 01:16:59,960
was last year during the eclipse one night, it was

1096
01:17:00,279 --> 01:17:07,600
during the springtime, and our cat escaped and he he

1097
01:17:07,720 --> 01:17:11,920
ran across the creek during the around the area where

1098
01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:16,720
we had that seen the eye shine, and he was

1099
01:17:16,760 --> 01:17:22,119
gone for how many hours? And we're about to go

1100
01:17:22,239 --> 01:17:25,680
inside because it was about to get stormy. We could

1101
01:17:25,680 --> 01:17:29,800
see the clouds coming in and it was starting to

1102
01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:35,880
get windy, and I mean, as a joke, I called out.

1103
01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:38,520
I was like, big Foot, please give us back our cat.

1104
01:17:39,159 --> 01:17:42,239
We need our cat. Chubs, please don't hurt them. I

1105
01:17:42,279 --> 01:17:45,880
was saying that, and we were laughing, and not even

1106
01:17:45,960 --> 01:17:49,479
five minutes later, we started hearing chubs. His name is Chubbs.

1107
01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:55,119
We started hearing chubs meow and from far away on

1108
01:17:55,159 --> 01:17:57,640
the other side of the creek, and he ended up

1109
01:17:57,680 --> 01:18:03,159
popping out right where the ice shine was. Then he

1110
01:18:03,319 --> 01:18:06,079
jumped across the creek t us and just when we

1111
01:18:06,119 --> 01:18:10,560
went inside, the storm just it went crazy that night.

1112
01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:15,079
I'm glad he went inside, But I don't know if

1113
01:18:15,119 --> 01:18:17,960
that was big Quick related. And later on I would

1114
01:18:19,159 --> 01:18:22,279
say to my nieces and my nephews, like, oh, what

1115
01:18:22,319 --> 01:18:27,640
if he was just holding chubs and heating him.

1116
01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:31,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's possibility. You never know. One of my friends

1117
01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:37,279
I was having sightings behind his house in the National Forest.

1118
01:18:37,760 --> 01:18:40,359
We were there one day and the sasquatch came up

1119
01:18:40,439 --> 01:18:43,199
right when it got dark, and they were doing loud,

1120
01:18:43,279 --> 01:18:46,760
powerful wood knocks all around the house in the woodline,

1121
01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:51,840
and I was trying to experience more activity. So I

1122
01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:53,960
was standing right there at the edge of the yard,

1123
01:18:54,439 --> 01:18:57,000
right in front of the woods, and I hear something

1124
01:18:57,000 --> 01:18:59,079
coming at me, something on all fours. I'm like, oh

1125
01:18:59,079 --> 01:19:01,840
my gosh, there's a sasquatch or something coming out of

1126
01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:04,039
the woods, because we know they were in there. His

1127
01:19:04,199 --> 01:19:06,880
dog came out of the woods and he looked really happy.

1128
01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:10,680
He was wagging his tail. And that's the only thing

1129
01:19:10,720 --> 01:19:13,720
with the ear eyes was the sasquatch befriended his dog

1130
01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:15,760
and they were out there hanging out with each other.

1131
01:19:17,239 --> 01:19:17,640
Speaker 2: Wow.

1132
01:19:19,399 --> 01:19:22,239
Speaker 1: But for sure there was a sasquatch out there. I mean, loud,

1133
01:19:22,359 --> 01:19:25,720
powerful wood knocks. Sounded like somebody took a wooden baseball

1134
01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:28,520
bat and was hitting it against trees. And it wasn't

1135
01:19:28,560 --> 01:19:31,079
like deep in the woods. It's right there in the woodline.

1136
01:19:31,359 --> 01:19:32,279
There was three of them.

1137
01:19:32,439 --> 01:19:32,760
Speaker 2: Wow.

1138
01:19:35,279 --> 01:19:37,000
Speaker 1: But yeah, the fact that his dog came out of

1139
01:19:37,039 --> 01:19:41,760
the woods where they were. It just made everything concrete,

1140
01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:43,600
like they're hanging out with your dog.

1141
01:19:49,680 --> 01:19:55,840
Speaker 2: Before I remember in two thousand and eleven, I think

1142
01:19:56,960 --> 01:20:01,760
the house was getting renovated. So we had all the

1143
01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:06,960
furniture on the back porch and there was sheets covering

1144
01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:12,960
all the furniture and one of the cats just had kittens.

1145
01:20:13,359 --> 01:20:18,720
There were outdoor cats back then, and I remember there

1146
01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:22,640
was one kitten that kept coming around to my younger

1147
01:20:22,680 --> 01:20:25,159
sister and I and we went out to eat that

1148
01:20:25,279 --> 01:20:27,800
evening and by the time we came back, it was

1149
01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:31,199
already dark and we're gonna check on the kitten and

1150
01:20:31,279 --> 01:20:34,239
on the back porch, and because it was the only

1151
01:20:34,279 --> 01:20:38,159
one that was coming up to us, and my dad

1152
01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:41,800
was the first one to go outside, and he turned

1153
01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:46,000
around right away and he was mad, and he got

1154
01:20:46,039 --> 01:20:51,640
a Walmart bag. He's like something something killed that kitten.

1155
01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:59,359
It was on the on the one of the steps

1156
01:20:59,399 --> 01:21:03,600
on the back porch, and it was flat, flat as

1157
01:21:03,600 --> 01:21:08,119
a pancake. There was no blood at all. The whole

1158
01:21:08,199 --> 01:21:12,720
kitten was flat. And my dad got mad. I remember

1159
01:21:12,760 --> 01:21:16,399
he got mad and he started yelling to the darkness.

1160
01:21:17,239 --> 01:21:19,560
It was he was on the lawn and he was

1161
01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:24,239
yelling to the darkness, leave us alone. We didn't bother you.

1162
01:21:24,279 --> 01:21:27,279
We don't bother you. Leave us alone. What do you

1163
01:21:27,359 --> 01:21:30,119
want from us? I remember he was yelling like that,

1164
01:21:31,720 --> 01:21:34,800
and I think because of that that time, I think

1165
01:21:34,840 --> 01:21:37,199
that's why it didn't bother our current cat.

1166
01:21:39,680 --> 01:21:42,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. I wonder if they intentionally killed the cat or

1167
01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:45,000
if they accidentally stepped on it and felt bad about

1168
01:21:45,039 --> 01:21:46,560
it and brought it to the porch.

1169
01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:52,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe I was thinking it probably accidentally stepped on it.

1170
01:21:53,159 --> 01:21:54,600
Speaker 1: M Yeah.

1171
01:21:55,279 --> 01:22:00,479
Speaker 2: There was no blood at all. It was just completely flat.

1172
01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:01,600
It was so sad.

1173
01:22:04,840 --> 01:22:07,880
Speaker 1: I wonder if you ever, because you said you're a gamer,

1174
01:22:07,960 --> 01:22:11,279
if you ever like set up your TV and your

1175
01:22:11,319 --> 01:22:15,840
system outside and play games outside. I know you said

1176
01:22:15,840 --> 01:22:18,000
you like to play like Overwatch, Call of Duty things

1177
01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:20,239
like that. I wonder if that would attract the Sasquatch

1178
01:22:20,279 --> 01:22:23,239
and I don't I feel like they've never seen anything

1179
01:22:23,319 --> 01:22:24,119
like that before.

1180
01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:30,800
Speaker 2: That's a good idea. I've actually put it on the

1181
01:22:30,840 --> 01:22:36,199
back porch before. But my nephew did that too, and

1182
01:22:36,359 --> 01:22:40,079
he used to come over and game. You used to

1183
01:22:40,119 --> 01:22:42,439
actually do that a lot, too, But I don't know

1184
01:22:42,479 --> 01:22:47,359
if there was anything that came over to watch them play.

1185
01:22:47,960 --> 01:22:52,399
But I remember summer twenty twenty four, I was actually

1186
01:22:52,479 --> 01:22:56,039
playing a game on my PlayStation and I had my

1187
01:22:56,119 --> 01:22:58,600
little window was cracked a little bit. I remember that.

1188
01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:03,760
I know there was monsters in my game, but I

1189
01:23:03,800 --> 01:23:07,159
had one ear muff off of my ear. It was

1190
01:23:07,199 --> 01:23:10,279
the ear that was like closest to my little window,

1191
01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:15,640
and just when it got quiet, I heard a single grunt,

1192
01:23:16,680 --> 01:23:21,520
like it was really deep grunt right outside my little window.

1193
01:23:22,119 --> 01:23:26,840
And I paused, and I froze, and I was calling

1194
01:23:26,880 --> 01:23:31,199
my nephew who was in the next room and telling

1195
01:23:31,239 --> 01:23:34,359
him what I heard. And as I was telling him,

1196
01:23:34,960 --> 01:23:40,640
not even five minutes later, it something walked around the

1197
01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:44,720
corner from my bigger bedroom window and it scratched the

1198
01:23:44,800 --> 01:23:49,359
top of the window. And at the top it's really

1199
01:23:49,439 --> 01:23:53,920
high up. It's about eight feet tall on the top

1200
01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:58,640
of the window, and it was so loud to scratch

1201
01:23:58,960 --> 01:24:02,079
that my friend that I was playing with he heard

1202
01:24:02,119 --> 01:24:08,479
the scratching on the window, and I know it wasn't

1203
01:24:08,560 --> 01:24:13,199
now a branch or anything, because the little tree that

1204
01:24:13,359 --> 01:24:16,920
was right there, it's more towards the left and it's

1205
01:24:16,960 --> 01:24:20,840
away from my bedroom window, so I don't know what

1206
01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:24,720
we heard, and I thought that was kind of freaky.

1207
01:24:25,239 --> 01:24:27,560
And I don't know if the sounds from them the

1208
01:24:27,680 --> 01:24:33,279
game was attracting it because the game was actually called

1209
01:24:33,279 --> 01:24:34,520
The Forest.

1210
01:24:35,760 --> 01:24:39,640
Speaker 1: Oh wow, Yeah, it very well could be. I know

1211
01:24:39,720 --> 01:24:42,399
you said you listen to sasquatch theory while you're gaming,

1212
01:24:42,479 --> 01:24:49,279
so that's pretty cool. Yeah, I've heard in the past. Yeah,

1213
01:24:49,399 --> 01:24:51,039
I've heard in the past. I don't know how true

1214
01:24:51,039 --> 01:24:55,159
it is, Like other reservations and in the United States

1215
01:24:55,279 --> 01:24:58,640
have large amounts of missing people. Is that a thing

1216
01:24:58,840 --> 01:25:00,880
in New Mexico or there are a lot of missing

1217
01:25:00,920 --> 01:25:02,239
people in the reservation?

1218
01:25:06,840 --> 01:25:10,760
Speaker 2: Not really, But I remember hearing a story from my

1219
01:25:10,920 --> 01:25:16,439
dad that he was talking to one of his friends

1220
01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:21,359
around on the reservation and there was a crash that happened,

1221
01:25:22,279 --> 01:25:25,159
and I don't think the guy made it, but the

1222
01:25:25,239 --> 01:25:30,239
lady did. And I think she got taken because they

1223
01:25:30,279 --> 01:25:36,239
couldn't find her body anywhere. And I think they think

1224
01:25:36,279 --> 01:25:42,319
that Bigfoot took her and left the guy because they

1225
01:25:42,319 --> 01:25:47,279
couldn't find her body anywhere. She was gone.

1226
01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:53,399
Speaker 1: Wow. I wonder why they chose her like what they wanted.

1227
01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:57,560
I don't know if she made them upset or if

1228
01:25:57,560 --> 01:25:59,760
they just wanted her in particular.

1229
01:26:02,920 --> 01:26:08,439
Speaker 2: Maybe her. I think they're more curious about women and children,

1230
01:26:11,239 --> 01:26:14,199
because there were a lot of times that we were

1231
01:26:14,199 --> 01:26:20,720
being watched. There was one time and spring twenty twenty four,

1232
01:26:21,199 --> 01:26:25,079
it was spring break and we have our basketball room

1233
01:26:25,079 --> 01:26:29,800
outside and my niece and my nephew, my two daughters

1234
01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:36,479
were shooting hoops outside and me and my daughters decided

1235
01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:43,359
to go inside to start making dinner. And before that

1236
01:26:43,680 --> 01:26:47,800
we were we went to my bedroom and was looking

1237
01:26:47,840 --> 01:26:51,319
at watching them from my bedroom window because they were

1238
01:26:51,319 --> 01:26:57,760
still outside. And from where we were looking from the

1239
01:26:57,800 --> 01:27:01,479
bedroom window, right by the creek, there's an old doghouse.

1240
01:27:02,399 --> 01:27:05,560
Right below that doghouse. There was something standing right there,

1241
01:27:06,039 --> 01:27:10,159
something black, just looking towards my niece and my nephew,

1242
01:27:10,159 --> 01:27:13,960
and that was still outside shooting hoops. And at first

1243
01:27:14,199 --> 01:27:17,319
we thought it was a tree stump, but there's no

1244
01:27:17,439 --> 01:27:22,880
tree that's right there. It was really still watching them,

1245
01:27:22,920 --> 01:27:27,640
and not even ten seconds later they ran inside. My

1246
01:27:27,760 --> 01:27:30,680
niece and my nephew. They said they've seen it. They

1247
01:27:30,760 --> 01:27:33,960
seen it, We've seen it, always seen. It was big

1248
01:27:34,039 --> 01:27:38,600
legs running away. It ran across the creek and it

1249
01:27:38,720 --> 01:27:41,720
went in through the bushes. We could hear the trees wrestling.

1250
01:27:43,560 --> 01:27:46,600
I was like, oh, it was probably what we've seen

1251
01:27:47,079 --> 01:27:52,000
standing right there. It wasn't too big, but it was

1252
01:27:52,039 --> 01:27:55,399
big enough. It was tall enough to where we can

1253
01:27:55,560 --> 01:28:00,760
see it from my bedroom window. I thought that was pretty.

1254
01:28:02,239 --> 01:28:05,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, it certainly is. And it definitely sounds like they're

1255
01:28:05,159 --> 01:28:09,000
interested in the women and the children for some reason,

1256
01:28:09,439 --> 01:28:13,000
whether I don't know, I hate to say, whether they

1257
01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:16,119
want to take them or if they they're more compassionate

1258
01:28:16,159 --> 01:28:19,399
towards like children women like women are more gentle than

1259
01:28:19,520 --> 01:28:23,640
men and children maybe the juveniles can relate to but

1260
01:28:24,039 --> 01:28:31,840
it's hard to say. Yeah, well, you'll have to have

1261
01:28:31,880 --> 01:28:35,239
your camera ready the next time. Maybe you can capture

1262
01:28:35,279 --> 01:28:37,159
one of these things on film. I feel like you

1263
01:28:37,199 --> 01:28:39,880
have a really good shot, especially since they're living around

1264
01:28:39,880 --> 01:28:42,399
the property and they've been known to come up.

1265
01:28:44,560 --> 01:28:50,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll try to move around the cameras just see

1266
01:28:50,479 --> 01:28:54,439
if we could see anything. Yeah, because right now it's

1267
01:28:54,439 --> 01:28:57,920
still in the same spot bedroom window and the living

1268
01:28:58,000 --> 01:29:03,640
room window. I haven't like moved it around. We just

1269
01:29:03,720 --> 01:29:05,079
have two cameras right now.

1270
01:29:06,840 --> 01:29:12,119
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, see if that changes things up. I'm sure

1271
01:29:12,159 --> 01:29:14,159
if you switch one of the cameras like you said,

1272
01:29:14,199 --> 01:29:16,640
you might capture something, you might throw them off because

1273
01:29:16,680 --> 01:29:25,880
maybe they're looking through a window that isn't near the camera. Okay,

1274
01:29:26,199 --> 01:29:28,439
is there anything else you can think of? Any other

1275
01:29:28,479 --> 01:29:30,159
strange experiences?

1276
01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:36,079
Speaker 2: My dad actually told me a story about his great

1277
01:29:36,119 --> 01:29:43,239
great grandpa grandpa's brother. Back then in the village there

1278
01:29:43,279 --> 01:29:47,560
was anything to eat, so the men would go out

1279
01:29:47,600 --> 01:29:52,239
stolo hunting and fishing. And at that time he was

1280
01:29:52,279 --> 01:29:58,239
fishing and he had a fish wreck and he would

1281
01:29:58,479 --> 01:30:01,960
whenever he has he would put it on the fish

1282
01:30:02,039 --> 01:30:06,520
rack to start drying. And he started noticing the choice

1283
01:30:06,560 --> 01:30:10,600
parts of the fish were being taken, and he didn't

1284
01:30:10,680 --> 01:30:14,239
like that, so he decided to stay up one night

1285
01:30:15,680 --> 01:30:22,880
and see what's been taking his fish. And sure enough,

1286
01:30:24,560 --> 01:30:29,159
it was middle of the night and he saw what

1287
01:30:29,279 --> 01:30:32,520
looked like a hand reaching towards the fish rack and

1288
01:30:32,600 --> 01:30:35,319
it was feeling around to see if there was any fish,

1289
01:30:35,399 --> 01:30:40,840
but there wasn't, and as its arm was up, my

1290
01:30:41,920 --> 01:30:45,119
dad's great great grandpa's brother, he had a bow and

1291
01:30:45,279 --> 01:30:49,119
arrow and he shot it right on the underarm and

1292
01:30:49,199 --> 01:30:53,319
he heard it grunt, and he heard it like walking away,

1293
01:30:54,359 --> 01:30:57,399
and it was walking into the thickets and up there

1294
01:30:57,399 --> 01:31:00,760
in the last there's a lot of willows. And he

1295
01:31:00,880 --> 01:31:04,239
said he heard it walking through the thicket until he

1296
01:31:04,239 --> 01:31:09,720
couldn't hear it anymore, and so he waited until it

1297
01:31:09,880 --> 01:31:12,520
was five o'clock, six o'clock in the morning when it

1298
01:31:12,560 --> 01:31:18,319
started getting bright, and he wanted to follow to see

1299
01:31:18,800 --> 01:31:22,159
what he killed because he didn't know what it was.

1300
01:31:23,439 --> 01:31:28,720
And he said, he's seen a blood trail, and he

1301
01:31:28,800 --> 01:31:32,640
followed the blood trail into the thicket and he saw

1302
01:31:32,680 --> 01:31:36,960
something laying on the ground and he said it wasn't

1303
01:31:37,000 --> 01:31:42,000
too big. He was about six or seven feet, but

1304
01:31:42,079 --> 01:31:44,720
he was circling it. He didn't want to get close

1305
01:31:44,760 --> 01:31:48,399
to it. But he said he had hair all over

1306
01:31:49,479 --> 01:31:52,760
all over its body, all over its hands, all over

1307
01:31:52,800 --> 01:31:56,399
its face. It was hairy all over and it was

1308
01:31:56,479 --> 01:32:03,840
just laying there dead. He killed it, and that's what

1309
01:32:03,920 --> 01:32:04,960
my dad was saying.

1310
01:32:08,359 --> 01:32:12,640
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, wow, And does he believe it

1311
01:32:12,800 --> 01:32:14,239
was a sasquatch creature?

1312
01:32:15,479 --> 01:32:20,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's where the name came from. New York. It's

1313
01:32:20,159 --> 01:32:27,279
like long hair. It's long hair all over. And the

1314
01:32:27,359 --> 01:32:33,079
weird part is after that happened, it's like the spirit

1315
01:32:33,199 --> 01:32:38,920
of that thing moved to its his tools because after that,

1316
01:32:40,239 --> 01:32:46,359
whenever whenever some people would pick his tools without knowing,

1317
01:32:47,279 --> 01:32:50,760
something would happen to them, and he had to warn people,

1318
01:32:51,279 --> 01:32:53,000
if you want to use my tools, you have to

1319
01:32:53,079 --> 01:32:55,760
let me know. Just let me know, even if you

1320
01:32:55,880 --> 01:33:00,000
make a note, I don't want anything to happen to you.

1321
01:33:00,079 --> 01:33:02,720
I don't know what kind of spirit that is that

1322
01:33:02,840 --> 01:33:08,720
moves to his tools. I thought that was really interesting.

1323
01:33:09,600 --> 01:33:13,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, that certainly is. And it sounds like they were

1324
01:33:13,560 --> 01:33:16,920
living in that same area in Alaska as well, similar

1325
01:33:16,960 --> 01:33:18,800
to what you experienced in New Mexico.

1326
01:33:20,000 --> 01:33:31,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I remember in the same town where my

1327
01:33:31,479 --> 01:33:37,319
dad grew up. It's called Stelowick. It's the northwest Arctic region.

1328
01:33:39,000 --> 01:33:45,279
The village, and before my grandparents got a bigger house,

1329
01:33:45,359 --> 01:33:48,760
they used to live in a really small house. In

1330
01:33:48,760 --> 01:33:53,840
one of my aunts, she heard rustling outside that I

1331
01:33:53,840 --> 01:33:57,439
don't know what the year was, but it was way

1332
01:33:57,479 --> 01:34:02,399
before I was born, and she heard wrestling outside and

1333
01:34:03,880 --> 01:34:06,960
outside the window. So she opened the curtains and there

1334
01:34:07,079 --> 01:34:09,800
was a hairy man just had its hands on the

1335
01:34:09,840 --> 01:34:13,479
window and it was peeking in through the window right

1336
01:34:13,560 --> 01:34:17,960
at her, right in front of her face. I was like, well,

1337
01:34:18,800 --> 01:34:23,560
I always thought Bigfoot wasn't up there. Actually it was

1338
01:34:23,640 --> 01:34:25,359
closer than I thought.

1339
01:34:28,039 --> 01:34:36,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it makes sense why campers really experience activity

1340
01:34:36,079 --> 01:34:39,600
compared to people who who are doing long hikes, because

1341
01:34:39,600 --> 01:34:42,760
when you're hiking, the creature can just wait for you

1342
01:34:43,119 --> 01:34:45,399
to pass by, wait a few minutes, and you're gone.

1343
01:34:45,439 --> 01:34:50,680
But when you're camping in an area, they possibly get

1344
01:34:50,760 --> 01:34:53,279
upset and they're more likely to come up to you.

1345
01:34:53,359 --> 01:34:56,000
And it's similar to the areas that you've lived at.

1346
01:34:56,039 --> 01:35:00,840
You guys are there, you're stationary, and you're not going anywhere,

1347
01:35:00,880 --> 01:35:07,600
so they're more likely to approach. Yeah, Okay.

1348
01:35:08,239 --> 01:35:13,119
Speaker 2: There was another time where my mom had a teacher

1349
01:35:13,159 --> 01:35:17,479
ade friend. She was saying her oldest daughter was awake

1350
01:35:17,560 --> 01:35:22,720
one night, it was probably in the nineties and she

1351
01:35:22,840 --> 01:35:26,439
heard a noise coming from the water because they lived

1352
01:35:26,520 --> 01:35:30,359
on the outskirts of town near the water, and she

1353
01:35:31,000 --> 01:35:34,000
didn't turn on the lights or anything. She just took

1354
01:35:34,039 --> 01:35:36,439
a little peek out the window and she said, she's

1355
01:35:36,479 --> 01:35:39,960
seen something walking out of the water. She said it

1356
01:35:40,039 --> 01:35:43,840
was tall and black, and she ran to the back

1357
01:35:43,880 --> 01:35:46,720
and woke everybody up and they all looked at it,

1358
01:35:46,880 --> 01:35:50,640
and it walked around their house like looking for food,

1359
01:35:50,720 --> 01:35:54,199
I guess, and they saw it just walk, calmly walk

1360
01:35:54,319 --> 01:35:57,479
back into the water, and it disappeared into the water.

1361
01:36:01,840 --> 01:36:04,880
Speaker 1: Wow. When you say disappeared in the water, like did

1362
01:36:04,880 --> 01:36:07,920
it get in like fully submerged.

1363
01:36:07,520 --> 01:36:09,760
Speaker 2: Or submerged into the water.

1364
01:36:10,399 --> 01:36:15,239
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, I've heard reports. I've heard reports where these

1365
01:36:15,239 --> 01:36:20,520
sayings can swim like like gators through the water. Oh, Dave,

1366
01:36:25,399 --> 01:36:26,399
what else have you heard?

1367
01:36:29,600 --> 01:36:34,439
Speaker 2: My mom told me a story. This happened when she

1368
01:36:34,600 --> 01:36:38,000
was about eleven twelve years old, so it was in

1369
01:36:38,039 --> 01:36:43,960
the nineteen sixties on the reservation here, and one night

1370
01:36:44,039 --> 01:36:50,880
she she went to sleep at her grandma's and she

1371
01:36:51,039 --> 01:36:54,960
lives right across the highway from where my grandma lives,

1372
01:36:55,720 --> 01:36:59,720
and she lives. She lived in a small house and

1373
01:36:59,760 --> 01:37:03,000
at a time one of my aunt, my aunties, and

1374
01:37:03,159 --> 01:37:06,079
my little cousin or he was a baby at the time,

1375
01:37:06,239 --> 01:37:12,000
we were living there with my grandma and my mom

1376
01:37:12,039 --> 01:37:14,840
and my uncle went to go sleep over, and they

1377
01:37:14,840 --> 01:37:18,479
made a bed on the floor and my aunt had

1378
01:37:19,000 --> 01:37:21,960
her own bed, and the baby was by the window.

1379
01:37:23,680 --> 01:37:28,960
And my mom said she could hear screaming from far away,

1380
01:37:29,800 --> 01:37:32,600
like she was a little girl, she was hearing screaming

1381
01:37:32,640 --> 01:37:38,840
from far away, and she woke up and she was

1382
01:37:38,880 --> 01:37:43,720
waking up her grandma. And when they woke up, my

1383
01:37:43,760 --> 01:37:46,319
grandma started walking around the house and she said the

1384
01:37:46,399 --> 01:37:51,800
front door was open, like a foot wide, and the

1385
01:37:51,840 --> 01:37:54,680
little dog that they had, they had a little Pomeranian,

1386
01:37:54,840 --> 01:37:59,039
and it was really barking towards the front door. And

1387
01:37:59,119 --> 01:38:02,159
it took a long time for my auntie to calm down,

1388
01:38:03,079 --> 01:38:05,479
but she finally calmed down, and she told my great

1389
01:38:05,520 --> 01:38:12,319
grandma she was sleeping and she would sleep on her back,

1390
01:38:12,880 --> 01:38:16,159
and she had her hand over her forehead and she

1391
01:38:16,279 --> 01:38:21,000
was holding the sheet over her face, and she heard

1392
01:38:21,000 --> 01:38:25,119
a noise, so she uncovered her face and there was

1393
01:38:25,439 --> 01:38:30,000
something tall and black, big and black, standing right by

1394
01:38:30,000 --> 01:38:35,439
her bed inside the house. And that's when she started screaming.

1395
01:38:36,159 --> 01:38:40,800
And when she started screaming, it took off outside. It

1396
01:38:40,920 --> 01:38:46,680
ran outside the door, and that explains the open door,

1397
01:38:47,479 --> 01:38:53,119
how they found it open. And the next day she

1398
01:38:53,239 --> 01:38:56,880
asked my grandma and my grandpa to come check the house.

1399
01:38:57,880 --> 01:39:01,359
And my grandpa was walking around and towards the back

1400
01:39:01,399 --> 01:39:06,079
of the house, he's seen really big footprints by the

1401
01:39:06,399 --> 01:39:11,800
one of the windows in the back, and I thought

1402
01:39:11,840 --> 01:39:15,359
that was really scary that it was actually inside the house.

1403
01:39:16,720 --> 01:39:19,880
And I was really asking questions like did the door

1404
01:39:20,079 --> 01:39:26,239
lock or anything? And I guess back then they weren't

1405
01:39:27,439 --> 01:39:32,520
too worried about people bothering or anything, so I don't

1406
01:39:32,520 --> 01:39:35,039
think they locked the doors much, or if there was

1407
01:39:35,079 --> 01:39:37,479
any good locks on the doors.

1408
01:39:40,199 --> 01:39:45,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's truly frighten. Yeah, there's the story the Siege

1409
01:39:45,960 --> 01:39:49,520
of Hanobi and Oklahoma or the Sasquatch were wiggling the

1410
01:39:49,560 --> 01:39:54,359
doors every night and like they're like violent, I don't

1411
01:39:55,079 --> 01:39:58,560
like violently juggling the door handles, which is pretty scary

1412
01:39:58,640 --> 01:40:02,960
and on monster. Last Jeff Meldrum, when he was still alive,

1413
01:40:03,039 --> 01:40:07,119
he went to a remote cabin in Canada, and I

1414
01:40:07,119 --> 01:40:09,600
think he said the nearest house or town was one

1415
01:40:09,640 --> 01:40:13,479
hundred miles away. It was super remote, but the cabin

1416
01:40:13,520 --> 01:40:16,520
owners claimed that something was getting inside the cabin and

1417
01:40:16,560 --> 01:40:22,600
destroying everything, and they believe it was the Sasquatch. Wow,

1418
01:40:23,920 --> 01:40:26,920
do you think in this case it was more it

1419
01:40:26,960 --> 01:40:30,439
was more of like a spiritual event like appearing in

1420
01:40:30,479 --> 01:40:33,439
the house, or it was just coming straight through the door,

1421
01:40:34,479 --> 01:40:35,359
went inside the house.

1422
01:40:36,720 --> 01:40:41,359
Speaker 2: It sounded like it came street through the door. She

1423
01:40:41,479 --> 01:40:44,800
said it was standing right by her bed, looking at

1424
01:40:44,800 --> 01:40:50,920
her sleeping and I think it was probably looking at

1425
01:40:50,920 --> 01:40:52,520
the baby too.

1426
01:40:54,920 --> 01:40:57,600
Speaker 1: I wonder what its intentions were, like, what did it want?

1427
01:40:59,000 --> 01:41:03,439
Speaker 2: I don't know, mm hmm. But my aunt didn't mess around.

1428
01:41:03,560 --> 01:41:08,079
She started screaming, and she started screaming. That's when it

1429
01:41:08,119 --> 01:41:12,199
took off into the darkness. Yeah, the front door.

1430
01:41:12,439 --> 01:41:14,399
Speaker 1: I don't blame her. It could have took the baby.

1431
01:41:15,640 --> 01:41:19,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, i'd she woke up.

1432
01:41:20,439 --> 01:41:25,119
Speaker 1: Yeah. I wonder if she heard something or if her

1433
01:41:25,119 --> 01:41:27,880
instincts kicked in and she woke up like she knew

1434
01:41:27,880 --> 01:41:28,640
something was wrong.

1435
01:41:29,760 --> 01:41:34,960
Speaker 2: She said she was hearing weird noises like rustling or

1436
01:41:35,960 --> 01:41:39,520
something woke her up, and she just peeked over her

1437
01:41:40,359 --> 01:41:43,800
over the sheet, and that's what she's seen. She's seen.

1438
01:41:43,840 --> 01:41:49,800
It was really tall and really black. That's what she's seen,

1439
01:41:50,039 --> 01:41:51,159
something tall and black.

1440
01:41:51,319 --> 01:41:53,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would traumatize me. I wouldn't be able to

1441
01:41:53,399 --> 01:41:54,840
go to sleep after that.

1442
01:41:56,039 --> 01:42:00,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know how long she lived. My great

1443
01:42:00,359 --> 01:42:02,680
ground them up. I don't know.

1444
01:42:04,479 --> 01:42:08,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, i'd be sleeping, wide eyed, awake with the weapons

1445
01:42:08,640 --> 01:42:12,560
right next to me or multiple weapons same year.

1446
01:42:15,039 --> 01:42:15,439
Speaker 2: Wow.

1447
01:42:16,800 --> 01:42:19,600
Speaker 1: But when she screamed, it probably scared the sasquatch just

1448
01:42:19,640 --> 01:42:22,199
as much as she was scared. They were both screaming.

1449
01:42:25,720 --> 01:42:29,000
Oh man, Yeah, I mean that didn't happen to me,

1450
01:42:29,119 --> 01:42:32,079
But now I'm I'm gonna be weary when I'm asleep

1451
01:42:32,119 --> 01:42:35,079
at night, like something could be here and I have

1452
01:42:35,159 --> 01:42:35,920
no idea.

1453
01:42:37,520 --> 01:42:40,840
Speaker 2: I'd be freaking man. It would be something to see though.

1454
01:42:42,520 --> 01:42:46,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. And it seems to happen with every

1455
01:42:47,119 --> 01:42:51,239
strange mystery that's taken place out there, Like people wake

1456
01:42:51,359 --> 01:42:53,520
up and there's like an entity, whether it's like a

1457
01:42:53,560 --> 01:42:56,640
shadow person or whatever, at the end of their bed

1458
01:42:56,760 --> 01:42:59,960
or right next to them. And also with like alien

1459
01:43:00,399 --> 01:43:03,720
many people have reported waking up and there's like an

1460
01:43:03,760 --> 01:43:09,199
alien staring down at them. And now cryptids. I think

1461
01:43:09,199 --> 01:43:11,720
that's the first report that I've had on the channel

1462
01:43:11,720 --> 01:43:14,119
where somebody woke up and there was a sasquatch next

1463
01:43:14,159 --> 01:43:15,720
to their bed.

1464
01:43:16,039 --> 01:43:20,520
Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, I was really freaked out when my mom

1465
01:43:20,600 --> 01:43:25,159
told me that story. That's what she remembered when she

1466
01:43:25,239 --> 01:43:26,880
was about eleven or twelve years old.

1467
01:43:27,680 --> 01:43:30,359
Speaker 1: The scary part about it all is it's probably not

1468
01:43:30,479 --> 01:43:32,039
the first time this thing's done that.

1469
01:43:33,319 --> 01:43:40,520
Speaker 2: M hm. I'm pretty sure I've seen stories on the

1470
01:43:40,640 --> 01:43:44,399
Beer four ol website, there's a couple of stories from

1471
01:43:44,439 --> 01:43:49,239
the reservation posted and there's a story where it's reaching

1472
01:43:49,279 --> 01:43:56,920
into the kitchen window looking for food and I don't

1473
01:43:56,960 --> 01:43:59,600
know why it didn't do I do that, and it

1474
01:43:59,680 --> 01:44:03,800
took almost took off my smaller bedroom window. I don't

1475
01:44:03,800 --> 01:44:08,960
know why it didn't take it off all the way. Yeah,

1476
01:44:10,079 --> 01:44:12,960
I just heard it pop. Yeah, I just heard it

1477
01:44:13,000 --> 01:44:14,000
pop and nothing else.

1478
01:44:15,800 --> 01:44:19,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's scary because you found that handprint on the window,

1479
01:44:19,239 --> 01:44:20,880
So that means they're trying to open it.

1480
01:44:22,239 --> 01:44:27,880
Speaker 2: H And there's a couple of times where it tried

1481
01:44:27,880 --> 01:44:31,880
to open my bigger window. And back then I used

1482
01:44:31,920 --> 01:44:37,399
to have a screen on it and we have to

1483
01:44:37,399 --> 01:44:42,000
get get it replaced multiple times because it would take

1484
01:44:42,039 --> 01:44:45,239
it off and break it. It would tear it up.

1485
01:44:46,119 --> 01:44:50,279
So now I don't bother with screens on my windows.

1486
01:44:54,960 --> 01:44:59,079
Speaker 1: Wow, you'll have to like get a print out of

1487
01:44:59,119 --> 01:45:01,399
a sasquatch and like put it up on the window.

1488
01:45:01,600 --> 01:45:08,600
See if that'll like break them out, maybe one with

1489
01:45:08,640 --> 01:45:11,319
like red eyes, then they'll stop coming to the window.

1490
01:45:14,279 --> 01:45:18,880
Speaker 2: That was the handprint I sent in to thefr S.

1491
01:45:19,600 --> 01:45:22,840
A huge handprint. Yeah, it was a huge handprint, and

1492
01:45:22,920 --> 01:45:26,159
you could see the top of my screen where it's bent,

1493
01:45:26,520 --> 01:45:28,680
like where it was trying to take it off. I

1494
01:45:28,680 --> 01:45:33,479
remember it was twenty fourteen. That's when my older daughter

1495
01:45:33,600 --> 01:45:37,319
was going to start head Start and I was up

1496
01:45:37,439 --> 01:45:42,159
late getting stuff ready, and right at four o'clock in

1497
01:45:42,159 --> 01:45:46,439
the morning, that's when I started hearing rubbing, something rubbing

1498
01:45:46,600 --> 01:45:50,960
up against the screen. And I heard the top of

1499
01:45:51,000 --> 01:45:55,399
the screen like making rustling noises, like something was bothering it.

1500
01:45:56,199 --> 01:46:00,119
And that's all I heard. And I didn't think anything.

1501
01:46:00,199 --> 01:46:03,000
And when I opened my window the next morning, that's

1502
01:46:03,000 --> 01:46:08,119
when I've seen the huge handprints on the screen at

1503
01:46:08,119 --> 01:46:08,520
the top.

1504
01:46:09,359 --> 01:46:12,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. Did you ever hear back from the BFRO or

1505
01:46:12,680 --> 01:46:14,039
did they just post the report?

1506
01:46:17,960 --> 01:46:21,600
Speaker 2: They immediately said no, it's it's probably a big man.

1507
01:46:21,720 --> 01:46:24,600
That it's probably a big man that's trying to open

1508
01:46:24,640 --> 01:46:28,079
your window. And after that, I just I didn't say

1509
01:46:28,079 --> 01:46:35,399
anything else. Yeah, they just dismissed me. After that. I

1510
01:46:35,439 --> 01:46:41,199
didn't bother like sharing anything with anyone. Yeah, but I

1511
01:46:41,279 --> 01:46:44,520
told your channel with the video because you make it

1512
01:46:44,560 --> 01:46:45,760
feel safe to share.

1513
01:46:46,720 --> 01:46:50,439
Speaker 1: Oh, I appreciate that you said you saw the episode

1514
01:46:50,479 --> 01:46:52,359
where I filmed the eyes out in the woods and

1515
01:46:52,399 --> 01:46:57,359
that prompted you to contact me. Yes, I'm glad you did.

1516
01:46:57,479 --> 01:47:01,000
I mean, I definitely believe everything you're telling me, and yeah,

1517
01:47:01,039 --> 01:47:04,920
that's important information. I can't believe the BFRO dismissed you.

1518
01:47:05,000 --> 01:47:06,960
But that's not the first time I've heard that, and

1519
01:47:07,600 --> 01:47:11,279
I'm not surprised. I wonder if you put a mirror

1520
01:47:11,399 --> 01:47:14,159
up in the window, what that would do. You ever

1521
01:47:14,199 --> 01:47:14,720
thought about that?

1522
01:47:17,199 --> 01:47:20,880
Speaker 2: Actually, my younger sister was suggesting that. Really, but I

1523
01:47:20,960 --> 01:47:25,399
haven't tried that yet. Yeah, but I should do it.

1524
01:47:26,119 --> 01:47:27,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's two things that could happen.

1525
01:47:27,840 --> 01:47:28,079
Speaker 2: Happen.

1526
01:47:28,279 --> 01:47:31,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, it might intensify the activity or it might break

1527
01:47:31,720 --> 01:47:35,560
them out and they don't come back up to the window.

1528
01:47:37,000 --> 01:47:40,880
But I feel like they'd see it as a challenge. Yeah,

1529
01:47:41,800 --> 01:47:44,880
they might think the windows. Yeah. Yeah.

1530
01:47:47,880 --> 01:47:51,159
Speaker 2: There was even one time in the nineties or early

1531
01:47:51,199 --> 01:47:56,399
two thousands, my cousin came back. He was a smoke jumper,

1532
01:47:57,479 --> 01:48:00,680
and he came back from a fire late late at night.

1533
01:48:00,760 --> 01:48:04,479
It was one o'clock, two o'clock in the morning, and

1534
01:48:04,560 --> 01:48:08,960
he lives right next door, and he said he got

1535
01:48:09,000 --> 01:48:12,800
home and it was really dark, and in between the

1536
01:48:12,880 --> 01:48:17,680
houses there was there was a big foot standing facing

1537
01:48:17,720 --> 01:48:22,399
towards him, just looking at him. He freaked out and

1538
01:48:22,399 --> 01:48:26,840
he ran inside right away, and so she was telling

1539
01:48:26,880 --> 01:48:33,039
my mom, and it looked like it was about to

1540
01:48:33,079 --> 01:48:37,079
look in the windows.

1541
01:48:38,560 --> 01:48:40,439
Speaker 1: So there seems to be a connection with you and

1542
01:48:40,479 --> 01:48:44,359
your family, and for some reason, these things are trying

1543
01:48:44,399 --> 01:48:47,720
to contact you and like interact with you and your family.

1544
01:48:49,760 --> 01:48:54,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's always coming around the house, and there was

1545
01:48:55,399 --> 01:49:02,319
I remember one one night in twenty fourteen, and it

1546
01:49:02,399 --> 01:49:05,199
was in the middle of the night. And back then,

1547
01:49:05,720 --> 01:49:08,439
I shared my room with my two daughters, and we

1548
01:49:08,880 --> 01:49:12,479
shared a big, king size bed and my younger daughter

1549
01:49:12,640 --> 01:49:15,079
was sleeping in the middle and I was sleeping at

1550
01:49:15,119 --> 01:49:18,479
the edge and my other daughter was sleeping towards the wall.

1551
01:49:19,680 --> 01:49:21,640
And she woke up in the middle of the night

1552
01:49:22,479 --> 01:49:27,319
winning her wanting some juice, and I forgot I left

1553
01:49:27,359 --> 01:49:31,680
it on the table that night, and when I'm awake

1554
01:49:31,720 --> 01:49:35,600
by myself, I talked to myself like, Okay, I'm gonna

1555
01:49:35,640 --> 01:49:39,640
do this, and then I'm gonna do this, And so

1556
01:49:39,680 --> 01:49:42,319
I decided to get up and I went to use

1557
01:49:42,359 --> 01:49:50,840
the restroom and the first like the restroom, the first

1558
01:49:50,880 --> 01:49:57,119
reshroom that's closest to the front door. And just before

1559
01:49:57,159 --> 01:49:59,039
I was going to go into the restroom, I heard

1560
01:49:59,479 --> 01:50:03,640
banging on the back porch and I was I was like,

1561
01:50:04,159 --> 01:50:07,840
there's elk on the back porch painting, and that's all

1562
01:50:07,840 --> 01:50:11,439
I said. And I did my business, and I just

1563
01:50:11,520 --> 01:50:15,600
when I turned the corner towards the front door, that's

1564
01:50:15,640 --> 01:50:21,239
when I started hearing really heavy footsteps. I could from

1565
01:50:21,239 --> 01:50:23,720
where I was standing at the end of the hall,

1566
01:50:24,640 --> 01:50:27,119
I could feel the vibration of the footsteps and it

1567
01:50:27,199 --> 01:50:32,199
was just like boom boom, walking towards the front door.

1568
01:50:32,840 --> 01:50:37,239
And back then my dad just installed new dead bolts

1569
01:50:38,239 --> 01:50:42,159
and the dead boat was locked. The door knob was unlocked,

1570
01:50:42,960 --> 01:50:46,399
and sure enough, it walked up to the window of

1571
01:50:46,520 --> 01:50:52,960
the door and the doorknob started slowly turning, and it

1572
01:50:53,119 --> 01:50:56,640
was really slowly turning, like it was trying to be

1573
01:50:56,720 --> 01:51:01,720
sneaky opening the door. And all I could do was

1574
01:51:01,760 --> 01:51:05,560
just look at it. My heart was pounding looking at

1575
01:51:05,600 --> 01:51:09,479
the doorknob twisting like that, and I was freaking out.

1576
01:51:09,520 --> 01:51:13,279
I was the only one awake, and I couldn't even

1577
01:51:13,399 --> 01:51:16,840
move from where I was standing. I couldn't move at all.

1578
01:51:18,199 --> 01:51:20,600
And because I knew it was by the door, and

1579
01:51:21,199 --> 01:51:24,960
I heard it turn around, it was turning the doorknob

1580
01:51:24,960 --> 01:51:29,680
for like what seemed like thirty seconds, and I heard

1581
01:51:29,760 --> 01:51:34,880
it turn around and it went. I was walking back

1582
01:51:34,920 --> 01:51:37,640
off the front porch in the same pace that it

1583
01:51:37,720 --> 01:51:41,720
came up. It was really slow and really heavy. I

1584
01:51:41,760 --> 01:51:45,520
could feel the vibration of the footprints from inside the house.

1585
01:51:47,199 --> 01:51:49,159
And as soon as it left, that's when I could

1586
01:51:49,199 --> 01:51:52,279
finally move, and I ran to the front and I

1587
01:51:52,359 --> 01:51:54,760
grabbed the juice and I ran back into my room.

1588
01:51:56,239 --> 01:51:59,560
I just went. I was trying not to freak out

1589
01:51:59,560 --> 01:52:02,520
by myself, and ever since then, my dad got mad

1590
01:52:02,560 --> 01:52:06,319
at me. You should have woke me up. Whenever you

1591
01:52:06,359 --> 01:52:09,520
hear something, you should wake me up, because he's not scared.

1592
01:52:09,560 --> 01:52:12,239
He will he'll get in his flash and he'll run

1593
01:52:12,279 --> 01:52:20,239
outside and see what's going on. Yeah, that's what I've seen.

1594
01:52:21,479 --> 01:52:26,039
Speaker 1: Wow. Then you could feel the footsteps from inside them.

1595
01:52:27,720 --> 01:52:29,000
Speaker 2: It was really heavy.

1596
01:52:29,960 --> 01:52:35,640
Speaker 1: It had have been a really big one. Now, you

1597
01:52:35,760 --> 01:52:38,199
had that dream about them coming out of a portal

1598
01:52:38,439 --> 01:52:40,920
and they were doing like the samurai chatter. Do you

1599
01:52:41,079 --> 01:52:44,800
feel like they really are using portals? What are your

1600
01:52:44,800 --> 01:52:47,840
thoughts about the activity that you experienced around your property.

1601
01:52:49,800 --> 01:52:59,039
Speaker 2: I believe they're using those portals. Yeah. Sometimes people see

1602
01:52:59,079 --> 01:53:03,880
it and then it would just disappear or turn invisible.

1603
01:53:04,079 --> 01:53:08,880
What looked like like it's coaking. But I believe that

1604
01:53:08,960 --> 01:53:15,920
they're using the portals to travel around the reservation a

1605
01:53:15,960 --> 01:53:17,439
little shortcut.

1606
01:53:21,039 --> 01:53:25,680
Speaker 1: Have you guys experienced anything else other than sasquatch activity, Like,

1607
01:53:25,840 --> 01:53:28,079
do you guys see UFOs out there?

1608
01:53:29,399 --> 01:53:29,479
Speaker 2: Now?

1609
01:53:29,479 --> 01:53:32,960
Speaker 1: They're crypti spiritual beings.

1610
01:53:33,000 --> 01:53:37,960
Speaker 2: My dad or my mom told me a story that

1611
01:53:38,239 --> 01:53:40,880
her and her mom went to bingo. They went to

1612
01:53:40,880 --> 01:53:43,920
a bingo and then next few towns over and it's

1613
01:53:43,960 --> 01:53:47,399
about a forty minute drive and they were coming home.

1614
01:53:49,800 --> 01:53:53,520
There's this place called Round Mountain. It's just a round mountain.

1615
01:53:53,840 --> 01:53:57,640
There's a cross at the top. But just before that mountain,

1616
01:53:58,239 --> 01:54:02,680
she said, she was driving and my grandma fell asleep,

1617
01:54:02,720 --> 01:54:06,640
so it was just her awake, and just by that

1618
01:54:06,720 --> 01:54:12,640
mountain she's seen a huge ufo. She said, she saw

1619
01:54:12,720 --> 01:54:16,359
the detail of it. There was light all around it.

1620
01:54:16,359 --> 01:54:22,319
It was bigger than bigger than a house, she said,

1621
01:54:24,000 --> 01:54:28,479
and it was hovering over the the ground. And she

1622
01:54:28,560 --> 01:54:33,319
said she even saw windows at the top. There was

1623
01:54:33,439 --> 01:54:37,000
lights all over it. There was windows that looked like

1624
01:54:38,439 --> 01:54:44,279
the trapperzoid and there was windows all around it. And

1625
01:54:45,760 --> 01:54:49,880
just as fast as she said, mom, look, just when

1626
01:54:49,920 --> 01:54:56,279
she called her her mom, that thing ah stopped hovering

1627
01:54:56,319 --> 01:55:00,159
and it shot straight up and it disappeared. So my

1628
01:55:00,199 --> 01:55:06,359
grandma didn't wasn't able to see it. So she was

1629
01:55:06,399 --> 01:55:09,199
telling me, it's like, wow.

1630
01:55:10,680 --> 01:55:12,840
Speaker 1: Do you guys their eyes And maybe it's connected to

1631
01:55:13,000 --> 01:55:14,159
the cryptid activity.

1632
01:55:15,479 --> 01:55:20,720
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, we hear we see strange lights in the

1633
01:55:20,760 --> 01:55:22,800
sky all the time to the state.

1634
01:55:25,960 --> 01:55:28,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hard to say whether it is or it isn't,

1635
01:55:28,159 --> 01:55:31,159
but it is happening in the same area, so that's

1636
01:55:31,159 --> 01:55:32,439
something to keep note of.

1637
01:55:33,640 --> 01:55:39,039
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. And there's stories of little people living in

1638
01:55:39,039 --> 01:55:45,399
the mountains. There's some hikers that look for elk elk

1639
01:55:45,439 --> 01:55:50,319
sheds and sometimes they would see like little structures in

1640
01:55:50,359 --> 01:55:54,359
the woods, like looked like something built built it and

1641
01:55:54,479 --> 01:55:59,199
there are really tiny little houses and a little campfire

1642
01:55:59,279 --> 01:56:04,560
next to it. Mm hm. Oh, there's little people somewhere

1643
01:56:04,560 --> 01:56:08,119
in the woods. My grandma used to say all the time,

1644
01:56:09,039 --> 01:56:12,039
be careful when you're out at night. There's probably little

1645
01:56:12,079 --> 01:56:14,359
people up in the wood or up in the trees

1646
01:56:14,479 --> 01:56:16,920
watching you. It would freak out.

1647
01:56:19,880 --> 01:56:25,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've heard that with other reservations, the people encounter

1648
01:56:25,800 --> 01:56:31,239
these little humanoid creatures. And just like you mentioned what

1649
01:56:31,359 --> 01:56:36,159
the juvenile sasquatch, the little people. They're mischievous there. They're tricksters,

1650
01:56:36,239 --> 01:56:38,359
and you don't want to make them angry.

1651
01:56:39,600 --> 01:56:45,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. I also have one more dream that matched up

1652
01:56:45,920 --> 01:56:51,439
group with reality. There was a time in two thousand,

1653
01:56:52,359 --> 01:56:58,880
honestly six, we're taking out the carpet in the living

1654
01:56:58,960 --> 01:57:02,960
room and so all the furniture was in the back

1655
01:57:03,000 --> 01:57:07,600
again and covered with sheets and everything. And I don't

1656
01:57:07,640 --> 01:57:11,520
remember why my grandma didn't follow us to go eat out.

1657
01:57:12,079 --> 01:57:15,359
I think she said she was tired, and so she

1658
01:57:15,439 --> 01:57:18,800
stayed behind by herself, and by the time we came back,

1659
01:57:19,600 --> 01:57:22,760
we found her laying on the dining room floor by

1660
01:57:22,800 --> 01:57:26,960
the table, and all she told us was that she slipped,

1661
01:57:27,760 --> 01:57:30,359
and she's the type that don't want to scare us.

1662
01:57:31,479 --> 01:57:35,119
And years later, in twenty twenty one, I ended up

1663
01:57:35,199 --> 01:57:41,439
dreaming about that time. I was dreaming that she was

1664
01:57:41,960 --> 01:57:45,720
going towards the dining room window. There are really huge windows.

1665
01:57:45,960 --> 01:57:48,960
She was going to close the curtains, and there was

1666
01:57:49,000 --> 01:57:52,479
a scrassedass squatch that appeared in front of her, and

1667
01:57:52,520 --> 01:57:55,359
it was so big that it had to hunch over

1668
01:57:55,479 --> 01:57:58,680
and look at her, and it had really big red eyes,

1669
01:57:59,359 --> 01:58:04,039
and it was shoulders were so wide, and it was

1670
01:58:04,199 --> 01:58:08,399
hunched over at her, and she said, just from the size,

1671
01:58:08,600 --> 01:58:12,119
or from my dream, just from the size, she fell backwards.

1672
01:58:12,520 --> 01:58:17,119
She got scared, and she got even more scared because

1673
01:58:17,159 --> 01:58:20,359
as she was laying there on the floor, it started

1674
01:58:20,399 --> 01:58:25,359
talking Apachy to her. I don't understand Apache as much

1675
01:58:25,399 --> 01:58:28,840
as in you, Pa, but if I knew, then I

1676
01:58:28,880 --> 01:58:31,520
would translate it. But I don't know what it was

1677
01:58:31,520 --> 01:58:35,239
saying to her, But she was freaked out at the

1678
01:58:35,279 --> 01:58:40,119
fact that it was talking Apache to her, like mind speaking,

1679
01:58:40,279 --> 01:58:47,600
wasn't actually moving it mouth. It was like kind of

1680
01:58:47,600 --> 01:58:51,880
mind speaking to her and Apache. And that's when I

1681
01:58:51,920 --> 01:58:55,119
woke up. As she saw that that part of the

1682
01:58:55,239 --> 01:59:01,319
dream and I woke up. That's why she was dining room.

1683
01:59:03,439 --> 01:59:08,479
Speaker 1: I've heard people that claim they've heard Sasquatch out in

1684
01:59:08,479 --> 01:59:13,079
the woods and they were speaking like Cherokee, Apache, different

1685
01:59:13,119 --> 01:59:16,840
Native American languages. One of my friends from Oklahoma, he

1686
01:59:16,880 --> 01:59:20,880
actually has a recording of it, and he claims, I

1687
01:59:20,920 --> 01:59:23,399
think it was a researcher in the area that recorded it,

1688
01:59:23,439 --> 01:59:25,720
but he had it on his phone. But they claimed

1689
01:59:25,720 --> 01:59:27,920
there was like a gifting site where they were gifting

1690
01:59:27,960 --> 01:59:31,600
the sasquatch and you can hear the creature walk up

1691
01:59:31,640 --> 01:59:34,439
to the gifting site and then it starts speaking in

1692
01:59:34,520 --> 01:59:39,159
its language and then also speaking I think it was Cherokee,

1693
01:59:39,800 --> 01:59:42,199
and I was thinking, oh, that's that's just a human,

1694
01:59:42,399 --> 01:59:44,960
Like there definitely sounds like two people talking. And then

1695
01:59:45,000 --> 01:59:48,159
it got really low, like the voice got really really

1696
01:59:48,399 --> 01:59:50,720
low toned, and it was like, I don't know. I

1697
01:59:50,760 --> 01:59:54,680
was like, wow, that's that's incredible, Like that is definitely

1698
01:59:54,720 --> 01:59:58,520
not human. Then it's speaking like different languages. That's scary.

1699
02:00:00,039 --> 02:00:04,239
Speaker 2: It is pretty scary, but yeah.

1700
02:00:04,039 --> 02:00:09,800
Speaker 1: It's definitely something they can do. M makes you wonder

1701
02:00:09,880 --> 02:00:14,159
what they truly are and if our genetics was tampered

1702
02:00:14,199 --> 02:00:19,720
with many years ago, and I don't know, like where

1703
02:00:19,720 --> 02:00:22,239
where do they come from? That's my main question. Are

1704
02:00:22,279 --> 02:00:27,239
they really inter dimensional? Are they some sort of human

1705
02:00:27,680 --> 02:00:32,199
that's been altered in some way or all the above.

1706
02:00:32,359 --> 02:00:33,359
It's hard to say.

1707
02:00:34,720 --> 02:00:38,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've always wondered about that too, mm hmm.

1708
02:00:40,079 --> 02:00:43,520
Speaker 1: But then the natives, the natives say they were here

1709
02:00:43,600 --> 02:00:45,079
before they ever even showed up.

1710
02:00:46,840 --> 02:00:54,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. I remember one time my dad got some Alaskan

1711
02:00:54,720 --> 02:00:58,720
food from my family up in Alaska, and he was

1712
02:00:58,760 --> 02:01:04,920
really happy. There was over we eat bowhead whale and

1713
02:01:04,960 --> 02:01:07,840
there was a bunch of the blubber left over, so

1714
02:01:07,960 --> 02:01:11,279
he was going to make some oil with it. And

1715
02:01:11,359 --> 02:01:13,439
all he did was put it in a big glass

1716
02:01:13,520 --> 02:01:18,159
pickle jar and he was gonna just let it melt

1717
02:01:18,439 --> 02:01:22,039
into oil. And he was really happy about it, really

1718
02:01:22,079 --> 02:01:25,920
excited that he was going to have some oil. And

1719
02:01:28,279 --> 02:01:32,359
it was outside that time. He didn't put the fridge

1720
02:01:33,079 --> 02:01:38,760
fridge inside the shed. It was outside of the shed

1721
02:01:38,840 --> 02:01:43,520
that time, and something stole the whole thing, the whole jar.

1722
02:01:45,079 --> 02:01:47,560
Then my dad got mad at first, but then he

1723
02:01:47,600 --> 02:01:50,600
made a joke. He was like, well, Bigfoot's not going

1724
02:01:50,680 --> 02:01:52,640
to be cold to night, because if you eat too

1725
02:01:52,720 --> 02:01:56,079
much of that, you won't won't get cold, you won't

1726
02:01:56,079 --> 02:02:02,239
get cold at all. But yeah, that's what it stole

1727
02:02:02,319 --> 02:02:07,039
from us, and that's not all it stole. I remember

1728
02:02:07,760 --> 02:02:11,640
my uncle next door, he had a gunnysack full of

1729
02:02:11,720 --> 02:02:15,119
deer meat and he was going to try it. So

1730
02:02:15,199 --> 02:02:18,039
he hung it up high up on a tree. He

1731
02:02:18,199 --> 02:02:23,239
tied it up, and during the night the whole bag

1732
02:02:23,319 --> 02:02:28,119
got stolen. The whole thing was gone, and he don't

1733
02:02:28,119 --> 02:02:32,560
know what happened to it. He said he tied it

1734
02:02:32,680 --> 02:02:36,880
up so dogs or anything won't get into it, but

1735
02:02:36,960 --> 02:02:42,760
the whole thing was gone, even the bag. And I

1736
02:02:42,760 --> 02:02:49,640
remember just the recent one, just last October, my niece

1737
02:02:49,640 --> 02:02:52,640
and his husband went elk hunting. He got picked to

1738
02:02:52,680 --> 02:02:57,279
go elk hunting and he wanted my dad to fix

1739
02:02:57,319 --> 02:03:03,439
the hide, and my dad the week of Halloween scraping

1740
02:03:03,600 --> 02:03:10,079
the skin, like fixing the hide to dry, and just

1741
02:03:10,119 --> 02:03:13,520
before Halloween, like the day before Halloween, he was finished

1742
02:03:14,319 --> 02:03:17,880
and he made like a frame for it out of

1743
02:03:17,960 --> 02:03:21,399
boards and he tied it. He tied the al kayde

1744
02:03:21,479 --> 02:03:26,520
to the frame and he placed it by the woodpile

1745
02:03:26,720 --> 02:03:29,840
that's near the creek. And I remember seeing it on

1746
02:03:29,960 --> 02:03:33,560
Halloween night. That's when I took out, took the kids

1747
02:03:34,399 --> 02:03:37,840
to get candy around the neighborhoods and I remember seeing

1748
02:03:37,840 --> 02:03:42,159
it that evening that night by the woodpile. And a

1749
02:03:42,159 --> 02:03:46,720
couple of days later, my mom texted me saying that

1750
02:03:46,840 --> 02:03:50,239
alkhide's gone, the whole thing and my dad said it

1751
02:03:50,279 --> 02:03:55,439
was heavy and it was still stink. Oh, the whole

1752
02:03:55,479 --> 02:04:01,640
thing got took taken. My nephew tried to walk walk

1753
02:04:01,680 --> 02:04:04,760
around the property to see where it got placed, to

1754
02:04:04,800 --> 02:04:07,800
see if he could find the boards or anything. He

1755
02:04:07,880 --> 02:04:14,119
said he couldn't find anything. The whole thing got took taken,

1756
02:04:15,800 --> 02:04:17,720
and we don't know what took it, but we have

1757
02:04:17,800 --> 02:04:18,720
a pretty good idea.

1758
02:04:21,279 --> 02:04:24,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's wild. Same thing happened to my dad when

1759
02:04:24,359 --> 02:04:28,439
he got a ten point buck. He kept the head

1760
02:04:28,479 --> 02:04:30,520
and the hide and he was gonna get it mounted.

1761
02:04:31,640 --> 02:04:35,560
He had it hung up in the garage and the

1762
02:04:35,600 --> 02:04:39,640
next morning it was gone, and we looked all over

1763
02:04:39,680 --> 02:04:42,119
the place for it. We ended up finding it about

1764
02:04:42,159 --> 02:04:45,399
a half mile away down at the creek bottom. But

1765
02:04:45,479 --> 02:04:48,319
what I found strange about it was nothing chewed on it, like,

1766
02:04:48,359 --> 02:04:50,960
nothing chewed up the ears, the hide, everything was in

1767
02:04:51,000 --> 02:04:53,720
perfect shape. It's like something just carried it off.

1768
02:04:55,319 --> 02:04:58,319
Speaker 2: Wow, it's really freaky.

1769
02:04:58,960 --> 02:05:03,199
Speaker 1: Yeah it is. It's almost like they want it back

1770
02:05:03,319 --> 02:05:05,640
or something like they feel like it's theirs.

1771
02:05:08,600 --> 02:05:13,600
Speaker 2: I remember seeing actually seeing it for myself. The first

1772
02:05:13,640 --> 02:05:19,560
time was around probably two thousand and six, summertime. My

1773
02:05:19,840 --> 02:05:22,319
younger sister and I were sitting on the back porch.

1774
02:05:22,920 --> 02:05:26,079
Again we usually sit on the back porch when it

1775
02:05:26,119 --> 02:05:32,399
gets cool in the evening, and it didn't get dark

1776
02:05:32,439 --> 02:05:38,520
and it was still daylight. And back then the brush

1777
02:05:38,720 --> 02:05:45,880
across the field across our house it was all cleared.

1778
02:05:45,920 --> 02:05:49,199
The tribe cleared that whole area, so we could see

1779
02:05:49,239 --> 02:05:53,920
the neighborhood that the house across the hill, I mean

1780
02:05:53,960 --> 02:05:57,439
across the road, and a trailer that's up on the hill.

1781
02:05:57,520 --> 02:06:00,479
We could see that trailer really good, and at the

1782
02:06:00,600 --> 02:06:04,640
end of the trailer we noticed something standing there. It

1783
02:06:04,800 --> 02:06:08,359
was really tall and black and it was standing by

1784
02:06:08,399 --> 02:06:14,359
that bedroom window and their front door was open, but

1785
02:06:14,520 --> 02:06:17,399
their screen door was closed, and from where we could

1786
02:06:17,439 --> 02:06:20,079
from where we were standing, we could see the TV

1787
02:06:21,279 --> 02:06:24,920
and whatever that was at the end of the trailer.

1788
02:06:25,000 --> 02:06:28,640
It was peaking, like tree peaking. What it was doing.

1789
02:06:28,680 --> 02:06:32,800
It was going back and forth looking at the TV

1790
02:06:33,000 --> 02:06:36,199
what looked like and that's when me and my sister

1791
02:06:36,399 --> 02:06:40,560
got scared. We ran inside. And that was the first

1792
02:06:40,640 --> 02:06:45,560
time I seen it. The second time was in twenty sixteen,

1793
02:06:46,439 --> 02:06:52,319
and that was the year that my parents went to Alaska,

1794
02:06:53,880 --> 02:06:58,800
and that time my mom ended up getting sick, so

1795
02:06:58,840 --> 02:07:03,560
they had to extend their stay until September. So I

1796
02:07:03,600 --> 02:07:07,439
was home alone, the only adult at home with the

1797
02:07:07,520 --> 02:07:09,920
kids in it at the time. It was my daughters

1798
02:07:09,920 --> 02:07:17,159
and my nieces and my nephew. And it was the

1799
02:07:17,199 --> 02:07:21,319
first day of school in August and that morning there

1800
02:07:21,359 --> 02:07:24,279
was no sunshine. It was just cloud cover, so it

1801
02:07:24,399 --> 02:07:31,079
was gray outside. And I usually stand outside with them

1802
02:07:31,119 --> 02:07:33,840
to wait for the bus and it usually comes right

1803
02:07:33,840 --> 02:07:38,800
at seven, and it was about six fifty when I

1804
02:07:38,840 --> 02:07:41,560
told my one of my nieces to go stand outside.

1805
02:07:42,800 --> 02:07:46,720
I was like, yeah, stand outside, I'll be right out there,

1806
02:07:46,760 --> 02:07:52,880
and I was getting my older daughter ready. Not even

1807
02:07:52,920 --> 02:07:56,600
ten seconds later, I heard her running back inside and

1808
02:07:56,640 --> 02:08:00,319
she was like, I think I've seen bigfoot. It was

1809
02:08:00,880 --> 02:08:05,640
And so when I ran outside with her and it

1810
02:08:05,720 --> 02:08:08,960
was it, she said it was standing on our side

1811
02:08:08,960 --> 02:08:11,239
of the creek by the dogs. Back then, we had

1812
02:08:11,239 --> 02:08:15,239
two dogs, and those two dogs they didn't want to move.

1813
02:08:15,359 --> 02:08:18,800
They had their noses tucked in. They were in a ball.

1814
02:08:19,720 --> 02:08:23,640
It looked like they were scared and they weren't moving

1815
02:08:24,720 --> 02:08:29,840
even when they heard us. Some ran outside, and by

1816
02:08:29,880 --> 02:08:32,840
the time I went outside, it jumped across the creek

1817
02:08:33,039 --> 02:08:38,279
and it was behind that one of those trees. And

1818
02:08:40,359 --> 02:08:42,600
even though I had my phone in my hand, I

1819
02:08:42,640 --> 02:08:45,680
couldn't even lift it up to take a picture or

1820
02:08:45,680 --> 02:08:49,079
a video or anything because I was frozen in fear.

1821
02:08:49,960 --> 02:08:53,720
It had its arm wrapped around the tree, and it

1822
02:08:53,800 --> 02:08:58,039
had its other hand like on the stump and it

1823
02:08:58,199 --> 02:09:01,279
was tree peeking at us and was kept it kept

1824
02:09:01,319 --> 02:09:04,680
looking at us like that. And it was like that

1825
02:09:04,800 --> 02:09:11,359
for like about five minutes. And my aunt next door,

1826
02:09:11,560 --> 02:09:15,279
she was about to leave for work, and when it

1827
02:09:15,399 --> 02:09:20,520
hurt her ah pulling up in her car. That's when

1828
02:09:20,520 --> 02:09:23,439
it walked away into the thicket on the other side

1829
02:09:23,479 --> 02:09:28,000
of the creek. And we're really trying to tell her

1830
02:09:28,000 --> 02:09:31,800
what we've seen, and she's the same way. She don't

1831
02:09:31,840 --> 02:09:36,479
like to make make us feel scared, so she was

1832
02:09:36,520 --> 02:09:40,439
just saying, oh, it's an elk, but I know, I

1833
02:09:40,479 --> 02:09:43,119
know it wasn't. It wasn't an elk. It was really

1834
02:09:43,640 --> 02:09:47,720
pitch black hair all over. I couldn't see its face

1835
02:09:47,840 --> 02:09:51,880
or anything. I could just see hair all over. And

1836
02:09:53,319 --> 02:09:57,439
I can tell that it had really big muscles. And

1837
02:09:57,640 --> 02:10:00,640
I remember that time I was. I was scared. I

1838
02:10:00,640 --> 02:10:03,960
didn't want to be home by myself with my two

1839
02:10:04,039 --> 02:10:07,760
younger ones, uh, my younger daughter and my nephew. They

1840
02:10:07,760 --> 02:10:10,760
didn't start school yet. They were going to start head

1841
02:10:10,800 --> 02:10:14,039
start the next week, so I didn't want to be

1842
02:10:14,119 --> 02:10:16,960
home alone with them. So I went to goo visit

1843
02:10:17,000 --> 02:10:20,560
my late brother and I was telling him about the experience,

1844
02:10:20,640 --> 02:10:24,840
and he was like now you can stay. You're welcome

1845
02:10:24,880 --> 02:10:26,960
to stay here at my house as long as you want.

1846
02:10:27,720 --> 02:10:30,359
You can. You can always go home later. So I

1847
02:10:30,439 --> 02:10:32,680
spent the morning with my brother that day.

1848
02:10:37,199 --> 02:10:41,439
Speaker 1: Well, you've had a lot of experiences, so I can

1849
02:10:41,600 --> 02:10:48,399
definitely understand why you're weary about these creatures and anticipating

1850
02:10:48,439 --> 02:10:50,840
the next time that they'll show up around the property.

1851
02:10:52,079 --> 02:10:52,399
Speaker 2: Mm hm.

1852
02:10:53,920 --> 02:10:56,680
Speaker 1: What was the last experience that you had today? Like,

1853
02:10:57,560 --> 02:11:00,760
was it the one that happened in January with the

1854
02:11:00,760 --> 02:11:01,359
the eye shine?

1855
02:11:04,079 --> 02:11:07,560
Speaker 2: Hmm? The most recent one was hearing about my dad

1856
02:11:10,039 --> 02:11:13,399
in the back porch where it was where it moved

1857
02:11:13,399 --> 02:11:17,600
the table. That happened on May five, So that was

1858
02:11:17,640 --> 02:11:25,840
the most most recent one, Okay, so well, actually a

1859
02:11:25,880 --> 02:11:28,960
couple of days after that, they went out into the

1860
02:11:29,000 --> 02:11:33,079
woods to go for a ride and there's a road

1861
02:11:33,159 --> 02:11:38,560
skull called Skyline Road and it's there were at the

1862
02:11:38,680 --> 02:11:41,319
area where there was a bunch of pine trees. They

1863
02:11:41,319 --> 02:11:45,840
were all close together and they're driving through that area

1864
02:11:46,279 --> 02:11:50,399
and on my dad's side, the driver's side, he said,

1865
02:11:50,439 --> 02:11:53,359
there was a branch that got thrown at at the

1866
02:11:53,439 --> 02:12:00,560
truck and he said, did you see that? My mom

1867
02:12:00,640 --> 02:12:02,800
and she didn't see it because it happened on the

1868
02:12:02,880 --> 02:12:07,880
driver's side, but it just happened a couple of weeks ago.

1869
02:12:08,960 --> 02:12:10,439
I thought that was freaking.

1870
02:12:10,960 --> 02:12:15,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, so they have shown some aggressive behavior.

1871
02:12:16,640 --> 02:12:22,800
Speaker 2: M yeah, I remember getting rocks thrown at us. It

1872
02:12:23,000 --> 02:12:27,439
was two thousand and seven. That's when some friends from

1873
02:12:27,439 --> 02:12:33,800
Alaska was visiting. And it was my younger sister me

1874
02:12:37,199 --> 02:12:42,279
our cousin that came to her from Alaska, and one

1875
02:12:42,279 --> 02:12:45,680
of my nieces from next door. She was sticking over

1876
02:12:46,479 --> 02:12:51,079
and my cousin from Alaska. She was saying we should

1877
02:12:51,119 --> 02:12:55,880
go go outside and shoot hoops even though it was dark.

1878
02:12:56,319 --> 02:12:59,359
I told her my grandma don't like us being outside

1879
02:12:59,399 --> 02:13:01,479
at night. It was like, let's just go for a

1880
02:13:01,520 --> 02:13:04,399
little bit, and so we snuck out the back door

1881
02:13:05,439 --> 02:13:09,560
and back then we had the room the rim right

1882
02:13:09,600 --> 02:13:12,960
across my bedroom window and the back then there was

1883
02:13:13,000 --> 02:13:18,920
a street light on the corner of the house, so

1884
02:13:19,000 --> 02:13:22,600
it was shining right on the rim and it was

1885
02:13:22,640 --> 02:13:28,000
already dark, and we were shooting hoops and laughing and everything,

1886
02:13:28,079 --> 02:13:31,640
and just when it got quiet, there was a rock

1887
02:13:31,720 --> 02:13:37,840
that got thrown next from by the apple tree, and

1888
02:13:38,119 --> 02:13:43,319
it was a pretty good sized pebble, and we're like,

1889
02:13:43,439 --> 02:13:47,079
what the heck with throw that rock, and that's when

1890
02:13:47,079 --> 02:13:49,199
we say we should try and throw one back. And

1891
02:13:49,239 --> 02:13:51,560
that's when I picked up a rock and I threw

1892
02:13:51,560 --> 02:13:56,880
one back towards that area and something through another rock back,

1893
02:13:57,159 --> 02:13:59,680
and that's when we freaked out and we ran inside,

1894
02:14:00,439 --> 02:14:04,199
and I figured that it wanted to go by the creek,

1895
02:14:04,239 --> 02:14:06,760
but it wanted to be unseen. That's that's what my

1896
02:14:06,840 --> 02:14:07,479
theory was.

1897
02:14:11,359 --> 02:14:14,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, very well could be, and they're obviously trying to

1898
02:14:14,439 --> 02:14:15,159
get your attention.

1899
02:14:16,520 --> 02:14:19,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, we didn't want to stick around to see what

1900
02:14:19,600 --> 02:14:21,520
it was, so we just ran back inside.

1901
02:14:22,199 --> 02:14:26,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't blame you. Well, it sounds like an

1902
02:14:26,720 --> 02:14:30,479
awesome place to do bigfoot research, and it sounds like

1903
02:14:30,520 --> 02:14:34,560
you got a really cool family and you guys stick together,

1904
02:14:34,760 --> 02:14:38,800
which is really nice to hear. And hopefully the next

1905
02:14:38,800 --> 02:14:43,199
time they show up, things are peaceful and they're just

1906
02:14:43,239 --> 02:14:45,600
trying to interact with you, not trying to come inside

1907
02:14:45,640 --> 02:14:46,039
the house.

1908
02:14:50,119 --> 02:14:53,199
Speaker 2: There was one time that my niece, one of my nieces,

1909
02:14:53,920 --> 02:15:00,319
slept outside on in between the houses and should on

1910
02:15:00,359 --> 02:15:08,079
her laptop watching a movie on Netflix, and all of

1911
02:15:08,079 --> 02:15:11,920
a sudden, she felt the ground shake. She said, something

1912
02:15:12,039 --> 02:15:15,680
ran by her tent in between the houses, and she

1913
02:15:15,720 --> 02:15:18,039
said it was so heavy that the ground shook and

1914
02:15:18,119 --> 02:15:21,439
it shook her tent, and she texted me right away

1915
02:15:21,600 --> 02:15:25,680
because I was just right inside. And that's when my

1916
02:15:25,960 --> 02:15:28,680
younger sister and I went out in the back porch

1917
02:15:28,760 --> 02:15:31,840
and was waiting for her to gather her stuff so

1918
02:15:31,880 --> 02:15:36,520
she can come back inside. And she slept outside because

1919
02:15:36,560 --> 02:15:41,319
it got overcrowded during the summertime. A lot of families visit.

1920
02:15:42,479 --> 02:15:48,039
And while we were waiting, we started smelling it. It

1921
02:15:48,720 --> 02:15:52,399
smelled like a skunky musky smell, but it was really

1922
02:15:52,439 --> 02:15:56,920
strong and we were like, yeah, we can smell it.

1923
02:15:58,520 --> 02:16:04,600
So we went back inside and we're all freaking out

1924
02:16:04,640 --> 02:16:10,399
what we're hearing what she told us, and we thought

1925
02:16:10,399 --> 02:16:14,720
it was really something to hear that actually ran right

1926
02:16:14,800 --> 02:16:15,520
past her tent.

1927
02:16:20,039 --> 02:16:23,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely could have been the sasquatch.

1928
02:16:24,119 --> 02:16:27,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, and she thought it was elk at first, but

1929
02:16:28,000 --> 02:16:31,079
I don't know. I don't think elk can like only

1930
02:16:31,119 --> 02:16:34,440
if there was a herd of him maybe could shake

1931
02:16:34,520 --> 02:16:39,479
the ground like that and the tent. That's what she

1932
02:16:39,600 --> 02:16:44,520
heard that night. And I remember one time that it

1933
02:16:44,559 --> 02:16:48,040
actually hit the side of the house. It hit the

1934
02:16:48,079 --> 02:16:53,680
house so hard that it shook the whole house, and

1935
02:16:53,920 --> 02:16:56,719
we heard it hitting the shed next to the house,

1936
02:16:57,559 --> 02:17:01,840
and then we heard it walking into the brush and

1937
02:17:01,879 --> 02:17:07,520
it was really walking through the brush like that, and

1938
02:17:07,559 --> 02:17:10,440
it sounded mad for some reason that time. That was

1939
02:17:10,479 --> 02:17:12,040
the only time that it hit the house.

1940
02:17:18,000 --> 02:17:21,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder why they hit the side of the house.

1941
02:17:21,920 --> 02:17:24,920
Do you think it was angry?

1942
02:17:25,680 --> 02:17:30,840
Speaker 2: That's my guess because it was right by the front door.

1943
02:17:31,239 --> 02:17:35,079
But back then it was my grandma's room. Correctly, it's

1944
02:17:35,159 --> 02:17:41,200
my daughter's room, but it sounded like it hit near

1945
02:17:41,280 --> 02:17:48,000
the bedroom window on the wall, and it hit it

1946
02:17:48,079 --> 02:17:51,120
so hard that we felt the house shake, and that

1947
02:17:51,239 --> 02:17:54,639
was the only time we felt the house shake. It

1948
02:17:54,719 --> 02:17:55,559
was pretty freaky.

1949
02:17:57,239 --> 02:18:00,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, the fact that it shook the whole house, that's scary.

1950
02:18:01,479 --> 02:18:09,079
Speaker 2: Mm hm. I remember in twenty seventeen, one of my

1951
02:18:09,079 --> 02:18:14,079
my oldest niece, she graduated high school and we just

1952
02:18:14,120 --> 02:18:19,600
had a brand new trampoline and one morning we woke

1953
02:18:19,680 --> 02:18:23,159
up and it was about seven eight in the morning.

1954
02:18:26,120 --> 02:18:33,280
The trampoline was near the driveway and all the poles,

1955
02:18:33,680 --> 02:18:36,239
it was one of those trampline with poles in a net.

1956
02:18:36,559 --> 02:18:39,719
All the poles were bent inwards. I have a picture

1957
02:18:39,719 --> 02:18:43,360
of it. They were bent inwards in that. I ran

1958
02:18:43,440 --> 02:18:46,520
back inside and I got my younger sister and we

1959
02:18:46,680 --> 02:18:50,120
decided to go check it out. We were walking around

1960
02:18:50,159 --> 02:18:54,079
the trampoline and we ended up seeing really long, long

1961
02:18:54,159 --> 02:18:58,600
hair stuck in the springs, and we were too scared

1962
02:18:58,639 --> 02:19:02,159
to touch it. We thought it was horse like horse hair,

1963
02:19:02,280 --> 02:19:05,280
but we're like, what the heck horses won't do this.

1964
02:19:06,799 --> 02:19:11,000
Would they be doing doing this? I don't think it's possible.

1965
02:19:12,719 --> 02:19:17,440
We figured that it was that bent poles. We have

1966
02:19:17,559 --> 02:19:22,719
to take all those poles down, we have to take

1967
02:19:22,760 --> 02:19:23,200
it apart.

1968
02:19:26,920 --> 02:19:31,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, I could have been them, and I don't know.

1969
02:19:31,360 --> 02:19:34,840
I feel like they're trying to interact with you guys

1970
02:19:35,079 --> 02:19:38,959
and make contact, and that might have to happen in

1971
02:19:38,959 --> 02:19:39,440
the future.

1972
02:19:40,760 --> 02:19:46,239
Speaker 2: M We have already seen a couple of them before.

1973
02:19:47,159 --> 02:19:52,079
Mm hmm. I don't know what's gonna what's in the future.

1974
02:19:54,799 --> 02:19:58,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, you might find yourself communicating face to face with

1975
02:19:58,360 --> 02:19:59,520
the sasquatch one day.

1976
02:20:00,680 --> 02:20:05,040
Speaker 2: Oh. I don't know what I would do. I know

1977
02:20:05,079 --> 02:20:07,399
I would freeze. I'm scared.

1978
02:20:08,440 --> 02:20:11,799
Speaker 1: Yeah. So is this house surrounded by forest?

1979
02:20:13,319 --> 02:20:19,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just live There's mountains everywhere.

1980
02:20:19,719 --> 02:20:24,639
Speaker 1: Okay, and the surrounding mountains are they able to look

1981
02:20:24,719 --> 02:20:26,319
down on you guys from up there.

1982
02:20:28,239 --> 02:20:35,799
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. In some areas there's watch towers. And my

1983
02:20:36,200 --> 02:20:41,959
brother used to actually work at the forestry and he

1984
02:20:42,959 --> 02:20:45,879
one early morning he had to go check at one

1985
02:20:45,920 --> 02:20:49,680
of the watch towers and he said he's seeing one

1986
02:20:49,719 --> 02:20:54,920
of those things by by the tree stump and it

1987
02:20:55,079 --> 02:20:58,879
was tree peeking at him, and so he had to

1988
02:20:59,000 --> 02:21:02,600
check on his co worker at the watch tower and

1989
02:21:02,879 --> 02:21:05,319
all he warned and was like, there's a bear in

1990
02:21:05,360 --> 02:21:09,280
the area, and he didn't want to scare his co worker,

1991
02:21:10,159 --> 02:21:15,440
but he's seen a sasquatch tree peeking at him near

1992
02:21:15,479 --> 02:21:18,600
one of the watch towers.

1993
02:21:21,959 --> 02:21:28,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, the place sounds like it's off the charts, and

1994
02:21:28,079 --> 02:21:31,159
I definitely feel like you're going to continue to run

1995
02:21:31,200 --> 02:21:32,200
into these things.

1996
02:21:33,280 --> 02:21:39,319
Speaker 2: M hm. I haven't heard it in years. Actually, I

1997
02:21:39,479 --> 02:21:43,799
just just seen it like a couple of times and

1998
02:21:45,000 --> 02:21:49,719
just seen the handprints, smelled it. It would smell it

1999
02:21:49,760 --> 02:21:52,959
a lot. I've actually smelled it just a couple of

2000
02:21:53,079 --> 02:21:58,239
nights ago, but I haven't heard anything or seen anything.

2001
02:21:58,360 --> 02:22:04,120
Just smelled it. That's it. And I actually have an

2002
02:22:04,200 --> 02:22:10,239
AC unit on my bigger window and one of the

2003
02:22:10,319 --> 02:22:14,120
flaps got looked like something was trying to open the flap,

2004
02:22:16,639 --> 02:22:18,959
and so I had to. That was last year. This

2005
02:22:19,079 --> 02:22:23,600
year I had to. I ended up like covering the

2006
02:22:23,639 --> 02:22:27,000
flaps and everything with the board and trying to tape

2007
02:22:27,000 --> 02:22:30,360
it up. I didn't want anything to do that again.

2008
02:22:34,760 --> 02:22:36,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't blame you because we don't know what

2009
02:22:36,760 --> 02:22:40,239
they are and what their intentions are, and you just

2010
02:22:40,280 --> 02:22:43,000
never know that they seem to be pretty unpredictable.

2011
02:22:45,079 --> 02:22:45,319
Speaker 2: Yep.

2012
02:22:47,280 --> 02:22:52,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, anything else that you want to mention, anything

2013
02:22:52,559 --> 02:22:54,360
major that you forgot.

2014
02:22:58,200 --> 02:23:04,760
Speaker 2: H Yeah, looking at my notes and looks like I

2015
02:23:04,879 --> 02:23:05,799
covered everything.

2016
02:23:07,760 --> 02:23:11,520
Speaker 1: Okay. Well, kat you did an excellent job at describing

2017
02:23:11,559 --> 02:23:16,600
these experiences and relaying the information that you've come across,

2018
02:23:16,639 --> 02:23:19,639
and I really appreciate you for contacting the channel and

2019
02:23:19,840 --> 02:23:23,239
openly sharing all this information with everybody.

2020
02:23:25,760 --> 02:23:28,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fun telling all these stories.

2021
02:23:29,120 --> 02:23:33,840
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, you got through it and I'm proud of you.

2022
02:23:33,840 --> 02:23:34,159
Speaker 2: Thank you.

2023
02:23:35,000 --> 02:23:37,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. I feel like you'll be contact in the future

2024
02:23:37,760 --> 02:23:38,280
again though.

2025
02:23:39,479 --> 02:23:41,399
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know if you're going to add this

2026
02:23:41,520 --> 02:23:44,239
to the podcast, but I actually had a dream that

2027
02:23:44,319 --> 02:23:50,319
you came to visit not too long ago, and I

2028
02:23:50,360 --> 02:23:53,120
was dreaming that you stayed in the next town. It's

2029
02:23:53,159 --> 02:24:01,120
called Rios and they have rental cabins. And you were

2030
02:24:01,159 --> 02:24:04,559
staying near a tree line and you asked me to

2031
02:24:04,600 --> 02:24:07,600
come come over because we're going to do an investigation.

2032
02:24:08,440 --> 02:24:11,239
And I got there early, and I didn't know that

2033
02:24:11,319 --> 02:24:16,799
you left somewhere to the store or something. And I

2034
02:24:16,840 --> 02:24:19,159
heard the TV inside. I thought you were inside, so

2035
02:24:19,239 --> 02:24:23,239
I got off the vehicle in and I was knocking

2036
02:24:23,280 --> 02:24:26,719
at the front door. And as I was knocking, I

2037
02:24:26,760 --> 02:24:29,120
looked towards the tree line and there was a squatch

2038
02:24:29,319 --> 02:24:31,319
that popped out of the tree line and was looking

2039
02:24:31,360 --> 02:24:34,840
at me. And I got nervous and I started knocking

2040
02:24:34,879 --> 02:24:38,159
louder and I'm like, Miguel, Miguel. And that's when you

2041
02:24:39,520 --> 02:24:43,719
pulled up behind behind me, and I told you. As

2042
02:24:43,760 --> 02:24:46,360
you were pulling up, it disappeared into the tree line,

2043
02:24:46,360 --> 02:24:49,399
and I told you, and that's when we went straight

2044
02:24:49,440 --> 02:24:53,040
towards or it was where I seen it. And then

2045
02:24:53,079 --> 02:24:53,639
I woke up.

2046
02:24:55,840 --> 02:24:58,600
Speaker 1: Wow, you never know it might happen. Your dreams have

2047
02:24:58,680 --> 02:25:02,959
been yeah, true. And yeah, that area of New Mexico

2048
02:25:03,079 --> 02:25:05,959
just looks beautiful. I look that up and the mountains

2049
02:25:05,959 --> 02:25:07,680
there truly spectacular.

2050
02:25:09,079 --> 02:25:12,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really really beautiful.

2051
02:25:12,319 --> 02:25:16,840
Speaker 1: Here yeah, it is. If you had the choice to

2052
02:25:17,040 --> 02:25:20,239
live in Alaska or New Mexico, which one would you choose?

2053
02:25:20,680 --> 02:25:29,280
Speaker 2: Oh, don't make me chew. It's and I really love

2054
02:25:29,360 --> 02:25:32,120
it up in Alaska just as much as I love

2055
02:25:32,120 --> 02:25:34,680
it here. Both places are home.

2056
02:25:35,360 --> 02:25:38,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they're both equally beautiful.

2057
02:25:39,760 --> 02:25:46,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I forgot. We went canting just a couple of

2058
02:25:46,280 --> 02:25:56,360
weeks ago. Yeah, first week of me actually, And right

2059
02:25:56,399 --> 02:26:01,600
at four am, just before four am, we heard I

2060
02:26:01,639 --> 02:26:06,479
heard an owl. There was an owl hooting like towards

2061
02:26:07,200 --> 02:26:12,280
It's called Silver Lake, Silver Lake Campground, and we're not

2062
02:26:12,399 --> 02:26:16,159
too far from the lake, and so I heard an

2063
02:26:16,200 --> 02:26:19,239
owl hooting from a distance and it was just who

2064
02:26:20,239 --> 02:26:24,879
who who like that. It was constant, like for an

2065
02:26:24,920 --> 02:26:29,000
hour straight it was doing that. And right at four

2066
02:26:29,040 --> 02:26:34,760
am there was a second call, a weird sounding owl,

2067
02:26:35,120 --> 02:26:38,799
but it was like really fast and it sounded like

2068
02:26:38,840 --> 02:26:41,680
it was right outside our tent. And I don't know

2069
02:26:41,719 --> 02:26:46,319
how the other campers that we were with didn't hear

2070
02:26:46,360 --> 02:26:51,879
it because it was pretty loud. It only did the

2071
02:26:51,959 --> 02:26:54,399
two owl calls, and it was really fast. It was

2072
02:26:54,479 --> 02:27:00,200
like like that, just like that. It did that twice,

2073
02:27:00,680 --> 02:27:04,959
and after that it started making like a weird duck

2074
02:27:05,079 --> 02:27:10,879
sound mixed with like a crow cawing. I can't even

2075
02:27:10,920 --> 02:27:14,479
imitate that sound. And it did that like three times,

2076
02:27:14,639 --> 02:27:18,559
and during those calls, all the frogs, all the crickets

2077
02:27:18,559 --> 02:27:22,639
stopped making noise. It was dead quiet. So I don't

2078
02:27:22,680 --> 02:27:28,360
know that what that was. And after that, it just

2079
02:27:31,079 --> 02:27:35,760
I waited until five o'clock in the morning. I didn't

2080
02:27:35,760 --> 02:27:40,639
hear anything else after those calls, and I waited until

2081
02:27:40,639 --> 02:27:44,840
I started hearing birds to fall asleep. But I thought

2082
02:27:44,879 --> 02:27:46,399
that was pretty weird to hear.

2083
02:27:49,319 --> 02:27:52,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is strange, and I've experienced similar and it

2084
02:27:52,319 --> 02:27:55,600
makes me wonder if it is the Sasquatch or if

2085
02:27:55,639 --> 02:27:58,760
it's simply just an how but sometimes it sounds too

2086
02:27:58,879 --> 02:28:02,239
human like and the cadence is just just off.

2087
02:28:02,559 --> 02:28:09,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I thought that was pretty weird. But that

2088
02:28:09,239 --> 02:28:12,760
was pretty much all my stories for now.

2089
02:28:13,639 --> 02:28:20,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, for now. Hopefully, I mean, if you do have

2090
02:28:20,440 --> 02:28:23,719
more in the future, hopefully it's positive interactions with them.

2091
02:28:23,760 --> 02:28:26,719
And yeah, like I said, you might make contact with them,

2092
02:28:26,760 --> 02:28:31,479
and I would just try to be as respectful as possible,

2093
02:28:31,520 --> 02:28:33,959
and I know you will be, but I don't know.

2094
02:28:34,000 --> 02:28:37,479
I feel like they want something and it's possibly just

2095
02:28:37,639 --> 02:28:40,600
food or they want to communicate with you, So just

2096
02:28:40,680 --> 02:28:45,680
keep that in mind. And yeah, if it's a negative experience,

2097
02:28:45,760 --> 02:28:49,440
you'll have to you have to go get your dad. Yeah,

2098
02:28:49,639 --> 02:28:50,959
we'll chase them out.

2099
02:28:52,079 --> 02:28:55,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. I haven't tried the peanut butter yet or the tobacco.

2100
02:28:57,040 --> 02:29:02,200
I'll have to try those sometow attract Yeah, it might

2101
02:29:02,319 --> 02:29:03,799
catch it on camera or something.

2102
02:29:03,959 --> 02:29:06,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, it would definitely attract them. And I know they

2103
02:29:06,879 --> 02:29:11,120
like Apple's peanut butter. The tobacco. I don't know, but

2104
02:29:11,399 --> 02:29:13,520
I've put it out a few times and I've had

2105
02:29:15,479 --> 02:29:20,200
interactions or experiences unfold, so I guess they do like it.

2106
02:29:21,600 --> 02:29:26,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it all trace some peanut butter at least.

2107
02:29:27,319 --> 02:29:31,360
Speaker 1: Yeah. Are you going to go camping later on in

2108
02:29:31,360 --> 02:29:31,840
the future.

2109
02:29:34,159 --> 02:29:37,319
Speaker 2: I want to. It's a pretty good time to go

2110
02:29:37,479 --> 02:29:41,520
camping at that campground. It's called Silver Lake. Mm hmm.

2111
02:29:41,840 --> 02:29:47,680
It's on the reservation. There's been multiple sightings over there too,

2112
02:29:48,520 --> 02:29:54,920
near the lake, near the tree line. That's all I've heard.

2113
02:29:54,959 --> 02:29:59,799
Whenever I camp there, there was weird, weird call.

2114
02:30:00,040 --> 02:30:05,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks like a good area and also a

2115
02:30:05,920 --> 02:30:08,079
good area to find tracks around the lake.

2116
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Speaker 2: M Yeah. My niece actually took a picture of some

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big tracks by one of the other lakes that's on

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the reservation. It's a deep, muddy track. I don't know

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when that was she took a picture of it. It

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was all dried up already, So I'm pretty sure it

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goes through that creek or the water and just gets fish.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I could say that they come down from the

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mountain and go down to the lake and fish.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. There's plenty of deer, and there's plenty of elk,

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plenty of fish, a lot of food for it to

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stay healthy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you got the food, water and cover, the perfect

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recipe for sasquatch activity.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm pretty sure. I'm gonna continue hearing it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think so too. And if you experience anything

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else in the future, reach out to me. I'd like

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to hear about it. If you have any questions, feel

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free to shoot me a message.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'll send you all those pictures of the handprints

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and footprint that we fall. The handprints are really yeah,

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but I'll send them.

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Speaker 1: That sounds good to me, and I'd love to check

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it out and I appreciate it. Okay, all right, thank

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you so much, Kat, and I'm so grateful that you

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shared your experiences on the channel. You're a really nice person,

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and yeah, I just really appreciate you so much. We'll come.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for taking time to listen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, and I believe you one and ten percent.

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Be safe in the future and be mindful that these

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things are around, and I know you will be.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'll continue to be gaming and listening to your channel. Well.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it, and hopefully more people from your area

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share their experiences and I would like to hear about it.

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Speaker 2: Okay. Yeah, I hope so too.

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Speaker 1: Okay, will you have yourself an excellent day and you

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take care of yourself.

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Speaker 2: Kay, you have an excellent day as well.

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Speaker 1: All right, thank you. I appreciate you. All right. Big

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shout out to our guest Kathleen for coming on and

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sharing her experiences that have stayed with her family for years.

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Whether you believe these events point towards sasquatch misidentified wildlife,

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something spiritual, or something we simply do not understand yet,

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the stories raise questions that can continue to fascinate people

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across generations. If you've had unusual experiences in Alaska, New Mexico,

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or anywhere across the country and would like to share

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your story, send me an email and tell me what happened.

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If you enjoyed this episode, please like the video, leave

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a comment with your thoughts, and subscribe so you don't

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miss future interviews and field investigations. It could very well

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be possible that the Sasquatch are attracted to the females

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on the property, and the Native Americans often warned us

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that they are attracted to women and children. Also, women

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put off a different pheromone than men, and it could

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be possible that maybe a monthly cycle could be attracting

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these creatures. I ran that through Cat off air and

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she said, Wow, that really does make a lot of sense,

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and it puts things in perspective. So I'm not trying

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to be rude, but the Native Americans did say they

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had to isolate women on their monthly cycles away from

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the rest of the tribe in fear of attracting the

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Sasquatch creatures, and it is something to think about. I

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know it's a little sensitive of a topic to ask

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a female, but it is important. If these creatures are

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coming up to the house trying to open up the windows,

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and they've been known to make their way inside. If

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you enjoyed this episode, like the video, subscribe and until

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the next one, you guys be safe out in the woods.