WEBVTT 1 00:00:31.600 --> 00:00:34.240 Welcome to episode five seventy three of five and dive. 2 00:00:34.320 --> 00:00:37.439 It is Thursday, August twentieth. I'm your host, joined as 3 00:00:37.520 --> 00:00:40.719 usual by Jeffrey pattern Nostro, and it's only slightly less 4 00:00:40.799 --> 00:00:43.759 usually at this point by Zach Kreiser. Zach, thank you 5 00:00:43.799 --> 00:00:45.719 for being the guest host once again. How's it going. 6 00:00:46.479 --> 00:00:50.399 It's going well. It's Thursday, so I'm here exactly. 7 00:00:50.880 --> 00:00:53.119 You're part of the regular rotation at this point. If 8 00:00:53.799 --> 00:00:55.920 Jeffrey ever begs off, well I'm not gonna let him. 9 00:00:55.920 --> 00:00:59.119 But if he does, we know who to call. Jeffrey. 10 00:00:59.159 --> 00:00:59.960 How's it going on your end? 11 00:01:00.840 --> 00:01:06.560 That's going pretty well. I've been punished, I guess, for 12 00:01:06.840 --> 00:01:13.040 complaining about the quality of ads on MLB TV because 13 00:01:13.359 --> 00:01:16.200 they like literally, I think a couple of days after 14 00:01:17.200 --> 00:01:21.000 we did the whole banter segment with Colin, I'm sitting 15 00:01:21.040 --> 00:01:23.000 watching it might have been a Mets game, might have 16 00:01:23.040 --> 00:01:25.239 been a different game. I don't remember, and I'm whatever, 17 00:01:25.280 --> 00:01:27.599 I'm doing other stuff. I'm half paying attention because it's 18 00:01:27.599 --> 00:01:30.159 you know, it's a commercial and I'm like, is that 19 00:01:30.239 --> 00:01:32.879 the opening rift to Lette Craze the Septicon? And of 20 00:01:32.879 --> 00:01:35.079 course it is, because something else sounds like that, like 21 00:01:35.359 --> 00:01:37.079 you can't even really do a soundalike of it. So 22 00:01:37.120 --> 00:01:38.200 I look up, I'm like, what the hell is this 23 00:01:38.239 --> 00:01:42.079 an ad for? And it's Bush's Baked Beans, And I'm 24 00:01:42.120 --> 00:01:46.040 just like, are you like? I hope Kathleen Hannah is 25 00:01:46.040 --> 00:01:49.040 getting a good check for this, at least I know 26 00:01:49.120 --> 00:01:51.480 she's she's still touring, Like Bikini Kill just did a 27 00:01:51.480 --> 00:01:55.280 big tour and they I just got to email about 28 00:01:55.280 --> 00:01:59.599 the thirtieth the doing a thirtieth anniversary album, But now 29 00:01:59.599 --> 00:02:03.760 we got to get that that beautiful bean money. I guess. 30 00:02:06.079 --> 00:02:07.200 I don't know what else to say. 31 00:02:07.280 --> 00:02:10.080 Yeah, obviously no one at bushes listening to the lyrics, 32 00:02:10.120 --> 00:02:11.919 not that they play the lyrics. 33 00:02:12.360 --> 00:02:14.199 Well, maybe they did, and that's why they don't play that. 34 00:02:16.159 --> 00:02:19.479 You know, it's hard to say. I don't think I 35 00:02:19.520 --> 00:02:23.759 have I really have any uh any banter at this. 36 00:02:23.800 --> 00:02:26.879 Point, I should know. The reason I mentioned I'm getting 37 00:02:26.879 --> 00:02:30.919 punished is it now plays every single commercial break. Yes, Liberty, Liberty, 38 00:02:31.000 --> 00:02:32.759 I get that commercial break. 39 00:02:33.240 --> 00:02:37.759 Yeah, we already did. Delibery. I continued to dislike the 40 00:02:37.759 --> 00:02:40.879 the personification of liberty is it personification? 41 00:02:41.000 --> 00:02:44.520 Is it's just like a ball, It's like a qualification, muppetification. 42 00:02:44.960 --> 00:02:47.680 Yeah, sure, the digitized muppet. 43 00:02:48.000 --> 00:02:50.280 Yeah that is you know it's not you know it's 44 00:02:50.280 --> 00:02:53.039 not a real puppet. No, they didn't know that's the puppet. 45 00:02:53.080 --> 00:02:53.599 That's c G. 46 00:02:53.680 --> 00:02:54.840 I yeah, that's c G. 47 00:02:55.000 --> 00:02:59.919 I absolutely. Uh, I don't they do need to figure out, 48 00:03:01.080 --> 00:03:08.400 like they played these same ads every single time, and 49 00:03:08.479 --> 00:03:11.560 I know they've got to have other Well, it wasn't. 50 00:03:11.560 --> 00:03:13.599 The whole point of selling it to ESPN is that 51 00:03:13.840 --> 00:03:18.560 ESPN had more or could sell ads or more interested 52 00:03:18.560 --> 00:03:20.039 in selling ads th MLB was. 53 00:03:21.840 --> 00:03:23.639 I don't know, I think, do. 54 00:03:23.719 --> 00:03:25.719 You actually watch it on ESPN's problem? 55 00:03:25.840 --> 00:03:26.599 No, I don't. 56 00:03:26.680 --> 00:03:28.120 Yeah, I know, but I think, but I think you 57 00:03:28.240 --> 00:03:31.840 still get like ESPN still puts like their ads for 58 00:03:32.080 --> 00:03:33.080 ESPN stuff in. 59 00:03:33.000 --> 00:03:37.360 It for ESPN stuff, but they're not selling ads to other. 60 00:03:37.800 --> 00:03:41.199 I mean they assume they are still they like, I 61 00:03:41.240 --> 00:03:43.599 don't think MLB is still selling ads for. 62 00:03:45.360 --> 00:03:45.520 Now. 63 00:03:45.520 --> 00:03:49.039 Maybe they don't think the Google the Google. 64 00:03:49.199 --> 00:03:52.879 And maybe ESPN just inherited the advertisers. 65 00:03:53.479 --> 00:03:56.639 Yeah. Well my issue isn't even I mean, I don't 66 00:03:56.719 --> 00:03:58.719 like a lot of the ads, but my main issue 67 00:03:58.759 --> 00:04:04.560 is the volume, uh and the number volume of times 68 00:04:04.560 --> 00:04:05.520 of seeing the ad. 69 00:04:05.639 --> 00:04:07.960 Oh, I mean the actual volume. The ads are the 70 00:04:08.039 --> 00:04:09.520 volume broadcast. 71 00:04:09.599 --> 00:04:12.439 Yeah, yes, and yes we are just old people complaining, 72 00:04:12.560 --> 00:04:15.000 but which it's it's true, it's valid, but we are 73 00:04:15.039 --> 00:04:17.560 just old people complaining about this, but it is it. 74 00:04:18.560 --> 00:04:21.800 They have to know that someone who's logging into CE 75 00:04:22.199 --> 00:04:25.639 like for an MLB TV subscription or the ESPN MLB 76 00:04:25.759 --> 00:04:29.920 TV subscription is using it a lot to watch and 77 00:04:29.959 --> 00:04:33.120 they just put the same the same three ads. It's 78 00:04:33.160 --> 00:04:38.240 the same idea, like March Madness is grading in terms 79 00:04:38.279 --> 00:04:40.000 of the number of times you see those ads. But 80 00:04:40.079 --> 00:04:44.439 you do understand that it is a lot of inventory, 81 00:04:44.480 --> 00:04:46.600 but for a limited time in an event that is 82 00:04:46.759 --> 00:04:49.720 gets a massive amount of eyeballs, and so they're just 83 00:04:49.879 --> 00:04:52.800 giving the advertiser they charge them, you know, they rake 84 00:04:52.879 --> 00:04:55.000 them over the calls on the on the money, but 85 00:04:55.040 --> 00:04:58.439 they say, you're you're gonna get a lot of eyeballs 86 00:04:58.759 --> 00:05:02.839 on this and a lot of repeat eyeballs. Fine, this 87 00:05:03.000 --> 00:05:06.199 is one hundred and sixty two games of thirty teen 88 00:05:06.439 --> 00:05:11.519 you know fifty you know, fifteen matchups, right, Like, it's 89 00:05:11.560 --> 00:05:15.560 a ton of inventory over six months. Yeah, we don't 90 00:05:15.680 --> 00:05:16.920 need to take the same. 91 00:05:16.759 --> 00:05:19.959 Approach they're doing. Since they're doing like an MLB TV unwrapped. Now, 92 00:05:20.040 --> 00:05:21.519 I want to know how many times I had to 93 00:05:21.519 --> 00:05:24.439 watch the Liberty Liberty ad. I want it in there, 94 00:05:24.480 --> 00:05:26.639 like how many home runs I saw? How many strikeouts? 95 00:05:26.639 --> 00:05:27.759 How many Liberty Liberties. 96 00:05:29.639 --> 00:05:32.839 I don't know. How does the MLBtv unwrapped work if 97 00:05:32.839 --> 00:05:35.240 I'm watching it on different platforms Like I watched and 98 00:05:35.319 --> 00:05:36.360 I don't know, I watch. 99 00:05:36.439 --> 00:05:38.480 The same it's the same account R because they're still 100 00:05:38.480 --> 00:05:40.519 tied to the same it is email account as long. 101 00:05:40.399 --> 00:05:43.199 As you're logged into your account. It's like Spotify. It's like, 102 00:05:43.279 --> 00:05:44.600 you know, it's Whatever's. 103 00:05:44.519 --> 00:05:46.560 It didn't work for me last time, so I couldn't 104 00:05:46.959 --> 00:05:48.519 do it for whatever. I don't know why. 105 00:05:49.199 --> 00:05:51.360 Okay, here's here's what I want to know, not the 106 00:05:51.720 --> 00:05:54.519 R MLB TV wrapped. I want to know at like 107 00:05:54.600 --> 00:06:01.399 the year end advertising assessment meeting at Liberty how they rate. 108 00:06:01.639 --> 00:06:06.199 Which is which is at a five star resort somewhere? 109 00:06:06.680 --> 00:06:11.720 Because I from experience, I have to think that anyone 110 00:06:11.800 --> 00:06:14.680 who is actually engaged with MLB TV while these liberty 111 00:06:14.680 --> 00:06:18.199 ads on are on, would rather choose anyone else to 112 00:06:18.639 --> 00:06:19.079 see you. 113 00:06:19.160 --> 00:06:22.360 Say that, but like, there is value in just having 114 00:06:22.399 --> 00:06:25.160 your name repeating the name over and over again. 115 00:06:25.199 --> 00:06:27.839 Now you're looking for insurance. I mean, all these insurance 116 00:06:27.839 --> 00:06:31.240 companies do it. So maybe there's a like a diletorious 117 00:06:31.279 --> 00:06:34.439 effect or whatever going on, but like the fact is, 118 00:06:34.519 --> 00:06:36.920 like you're not necessarily going to look up your local 119 00:06:37.600 --> 00:06:40.879 like insurer or whatever. You're gonna be like, well, here 120 00:06:40.920 --> 00:06:46.480 are the companies that do it. Progressive Liberty, Mutual, Farmers, Farmers, 121 00:06:47.279 --> 00:06:54.199 All State, Nationwide, Geico, su Ye, right, Like it's like 122 00:06:54.240 --> 00:06:59.160 who does it these people? Okay? I had I had 123 00:06:59.160 --> 00:07:03.759 a h ACT issue a few weeks ago, and it 124 00:07:03.800 --> 00:07:05.920 was a so that we have a we have a 125 00:07:05.959 --> 00:07:08.120 regular H track company, but they were closed on Sunday, 126 00:07:08.160 --> 00:07:11.399 but the air conditioning wasn't working upstairs. It was like 127 00:07:11.639 --> 00:07:14.759 ninety degrees. So I had to call someone that day 128 00:07:15.000 --> 00:07:18.360 to see and I just looked up one of the 129 00:07:18.800 --> 00:07:21.319 two company or both the two companies that I see 130 00:07:21.439 --> 00:07:25.600 trucks driving around in the area, because I was like, well, 131 00:07:25.680 --> 00:07:28.160 are they open Sunday? And do they have good reviews? 132 00:07:28.199 --> 00:07:31.959 Like I looked into them whatever, But like I didn't 133 00:07:32.000 --> 00:07:35.160 look at every local company. I was just like, well, 134 00:07:35.160 --> 00:07:39.279 these guys are around there. I see them, you know, 135 00:07:40.240 --> 00:07:42.399 for an emergency. It it worked. 136 00:07:42.560 --> 00:07:45.759 I don't know, but what if they parked outside and 137 00:07:45.800 --> 00:07:46.839 blocked your driveway? 138 00:07:47.040 --> 00:07:47.279 Yeah? 139 00:07:47.519 --> 00:07:50.279 Maybe? Oh And speaking of which, so while we're on 140 00:07:50.319 --> 00:07:52.879 this is actually I said I had no no banter 141 00:07:52.959 --> 00:07:56.600 and it's it's gone long. But NJM. That's how I 142 00:07:56.639 --> 00:07:59.560 feel about NJM. Are you guys aware of that one? 143 00:08:00.079 --> 00:08:01.920 I don't know what that is, so I. 144 00:08:01.920 --> 00:08:03.600 Don't know if it actually stands for this, but they 145 00:08:04.040 --> 00:08:06.279 are saying in the commercials it stands for no jingles 146 00:08:06.319 --> 00:08:10.399 or mascots. It's an insurance company, and they do their 147 00:08:10.959 --> 00:08:15.000 entire premise of their series of commercials because every insurance 148 00:08:15.000 --> 00:08:20.680 company has to do this right now is insurance Annoya. 149 00:08:20.959 --> 00:08:23.399 They show it constantly on MLB TV. It's the guy 150 00:08:23.519 --> 00:08:29.279 singing Michelle Branch in a It says he has Insure 151 00:08:29.279 --> 00:08:32.000 Annoya and he's in a convertible and it like pulls 152 00:08:32.039 --> 00:08:35.639 up next to a position. Okay, well whatever, Well he's singing, 153 00:08:36.000 --> 00:08:37.960 and then it pans out and it turns out his 154 00:08:38.399 --> 00:08:40.960 car is on a tow truck because he won't actually 155 00:08:41.039 --> 00:08:44.600 drive it because he has insure Annoya. That is the 156 00:08:44.639 --> 00:08:47.519 best one of their series of commercials like this. It 157 00:08:47.600 --> 00:08:52.279 is essentially like here's an asshole. They should have MJM. 158 00:08:52.639 --> 00:08:54.759 And I'm always like, well, why would I want that? 159 00:08:54.960 --> 00:08:57.840 It appears to be insurance for assholes? Like one of 160 00:08:57.879 --> 00:09:03.039 them is just a woman who is putting like sunlight 161 00:09:03.159 --> 00:09:08.279 level daylight via whatever they're called, like stadium lights on 162 00:09:08.399 --> 00:09:12.240 her house at all times. And I'm like, and it's 163 00:09:12.240 --> 00:09:15.879 like her neighbors are unhappy in the commercial, Yeah they 164 00:09:15.919 --> 00:09:18.080 would be. And I'm like, great, so you've got this 165 00:09:18.519 --> 00:09:21.919 giant asshole. And they're like, Sally has insur anoia, blah 166 00:09:21.919 --> 00:09:24.360 blah blah, she should have n j M. And I'm 167 00:09:24.360 --> 00:09:28.360 like this, You're you're basically saying we're the insurance for 168 00:09:28.440 --> 00:09:33.879 the worst people on earth. Join us. I don't get it. 169 00:09:34.360 --> 00:09:37.559 I don't get it. Someone out there explain it to me, please. 170 00:09:42.720 --> 00:09:43.159 What's that? 171 00:09:43.320 --> 00:09:45.519 I was singing a Michelle Branch song, not a jingle. 172 00:09:46.759 --> 00:09:49.440 Well it's not a that was a full fledged song, Jeffrey, 173 00:09:49.840 --> 00:09:56.879 but it's still it's not the whole song, singing the chorus. No, 174 00:09:58.360 --> 00:09:59.559 you just straight up singing the song. 175 00:10:01.159 --> 00:10:03.720 Courus is a jingle? Fine and good for her her 176 00:10:03.759 --> 00:10:06.639 and Kathleen Hannah. I just living the life. 177 00:10:07.000 --> 00:10:09.840 See. But You're like, is Michelle Brinch still touring. I 178 00:10:09.879 --> 00:10:14.480 haven't gotten a problem an email about it. Probably all right, 179 00:10:14.840 --> 00:10:18.799 let's get into the show. I'm so sorry. Speaking of 180 00:10:19.399 --> 00:10:22.360 we have our first segment title. I don't want this, 181 00:10:22.559 --> 00:10:24.840 I don't need this. That's how we all feel about 182 00:10:24.840 --> 00:10:28.639 these commercials. It's how we feel about the AL Wildcard race. 183 00:10:28.759 --> 00:10:32.399 It will probably lead every single segment, every single show 184 00:10:32.679 --> 00:10:37.559 from here to the end of the season. We'll start 185 00:10:37.600 --> 00:10:39.519 with my my Orioles. 186 00:10:40.399 --> 00:10:43.080 I was writing so high you were, and then exactly 187 00:10:43.080 --> 00:10:44.120 what you predicted happened. 188 00:10:44.360 --> 00:10:45.840 I did. I do want to I do get to 189 00:10:45.919 --> 00:10:47.679 ride a little high because they said they're going to 190 00:10:47.759 --> 00:10:49.840 lose four in a row and we are three fourths 191 00:10:49.840 --> 00:10:50.480 of the way there. 192 00:10:50.799 --> 00:10:52.080 I do think we need to start every one of 193 00:10:52.080 --> 00:10:54.000 these segments. Was just trying to guess who the ALE 194 00:10:54.039 --> 00:10:57.159 Wildcard leader is because I guess wrong this morning when 195 00:10:57.159 --> 00:10:58.240 I started putting the doctor. 196 00:10:58.000 --> 00:10:59.799 Together, I have not looked. 197 00:11:00.080 --> 00:11:01.559 Yeah, I haven't the answer. 198 00:11:01.840 --> 00:11:03.200 No, I read I read your news. 199 00:11:03.720 --> 00:11:05.559 I know who it is, but I was pretty sure 200 00:11:05.600 --> 00:11:07.759 it was the Rangers. It is actually the Twins. Tomorrow 201 00:11:07.799 --> 00:11:09.039 it might be the Rangers. 202 00:11:09.080 --> 00:11:12.039 The Rangers are a mere half game back. Yes, they're closest. 203 00:11:12.559 --> 00:11:14.159 The Twins swept the Braves. 204 00:11:14.440 --> 00:11:15.639 Yeah, yeah, that is. 205 00:11:16.960 --> 00:11:19.279 Yes, they are like great for the Braves. They got 206 00:11:19.279 --> 00:11:21.679 their three game win streak like the Orioles did last week, 207 00:11:21.720 --> 00:11:25.000 so they are now they have now toppled there now. 208 00:11:25.200 --> 00:11:27.480 Right, and anyone who's just finished a three game win 209 00:11:27.559 --> 00:11:29.720 streak will will retain the You. 210 00:11:29.720 --> 00:11:31.720 Just want to have the last three game win streak 211 00:11:31.759 --> 00:11:33.120 in this group, basically, I think the. 212 00:11:33.080 --> 00:11:34.159 Two gamer will do it. 213 00:11:38.679 --> 00:11:40.320 You're going to look up the last day of the season. 214 00:11:40.360 --> 00:11:42.240 You just want to see last ten, six and four, 215 00:11:42.360 --> 00:11:43.440 that's what you want to see. 216 00:11:44.360 --> 00:11:50.240 That's uh. Once once again, starting with with the third 217 00:11:50.279 --> 00:11:52.840 wild card. No, there is one six and four. I'm 218 00:11:52.879 --> 00:11:54.879 sorry I thought there was nobody. It is the Toronto 219 00:11:54.879 --> 00:11:55.399 Blue Jays. 220 00:11:55.480 --> 00:11:58.440 Yeah, they're winning today too, and they are winning today. 221 00:11:59.480 --> 00:12:03.200 Dazz can hit a home run. But let's stick with 222 00:12:03.240 --> 00:12:05.759 the Orioles for a second, because I don't did either 223 00:12:05.799 --> 00:12:09.120 of you watch any of or at least see the highlights. 224 00:12:09.600 --> 00:12:12.919 I mean I saw in particular, I saw a very 225 00:12:12.960 --> 00:12:13.840 specific highlight. 226 00:12:13.960 --> 00:12:19.600 Yes, yes, the non home run, the foul ball. I 227 00:12:19.639 --> 00:12:22.080 don't know how that was a foul ball, am I am? 228 00:12:22.120 --> 00:12:24.440 I I'm not trying to be biased for my orioles. 229 00:12:24.600 --> 00:12:29.720 But like it went over the foul pole, and my 230 00:12:29.840 --> 00:12:32.960 understanding was over the foul pole is the same as 231 00:12:33.039 --> 00:12:40.600 hitting the foul pol Yes, understanding what's that, chef? 232 00:12:40.960 --> 00:12:42.919 These things happened in three dimensions. You're watching them on 233 00:12:42.960 --> 00:12:44.159 a two dimensional screen, Craig. 234 00:12:45.000 --> 00:12:48.600 Yeah, no, look it's the But from best I could 235 00:12:48.600 --> 00:12:50.559 tell what were they watching? Then? 236 00:12:51.480 --> 00:12:53.200 Now they called it foul on the field, right, So 237 00:12:53.200 --> 00:12:55.440 they had to be right. They had to be They 238 00:12:55.440 --> 00:12:58.759 had to have a clear angle of it. I mean 239 00:12:58.960 --> 00:13:02.559 it was over the fell. I agree with you. I 240 00:13:02.600 --> 00:13:03.919 think I. 241 00:13:04.360 --> 00:13:07.039 Also think if they can mod I don't want to 242 00:13:07.039 --> 00:13:09.559 get into this because poor Mike Petriello had to get 243 00:13:09.559 --> 00:13:12.440 into people who don't understand how the home run distance 244 00:13:12.480 --> 00:13:17.559 thing works. But if they can track the ball and 245 00:13:17.639 --> 00:13:21.679 do the home run distance by taking its highest point 246 00:13:21.720 --> 00:13:23.679 in the parabolic arc, and. 247 00:13:23.600 --> 00:13:27.279 They sometimes have to adjust tho afterwards. 248 00:13:26.720 --> 00:13:31.519 So right, sure they but they have time to that 249 00:13:31.559 --> 00:13:34.279 can happen relatively quickly. It's not always hours later. 250 00:13:34.440 --> 00:13:34.639 Yeah. 251 00:13:34.679 --> 00:13:39.360 Yeah, If if they can do that, why can't they 252 00:13:39.840 --> 00:13:44.559 model a higher foul pole and also track the ball? 253 00:13:45.360 --> 00:13:49.600 If it's wrong, is it not? Probably a better estimate 254 00:13:49.720 --> 00:13:52.519 of what's going on then a guy who had to 255 00:13:52.559 --> 00:13:54.399 turn and spin and see it in real time. 256 00:13:54.519 --> 00:13:57.639 What we need to do is put a stadium floodlight 257 00:13:57.840 --> 00:14:00.639 on each foul pole. She like light the beam, you 258 00:14:00.639 --> 00:14:01.039 have a beam. 259 00:14:01.960 --> 00:14:04.480 I have not understood. I actually have not understood why 260 00:14:04.480 --> 00:14:09.120 they haven't done essentially the infrared or whatever, like something 261 00:14:09.240 --> 00:14:12.919 that ends up and have something on the ball that 262 00:14:12.960 --> 00:14:14.759 would tell you whether it Yeah. 263 00:14:14.840 --> 00:14:16.879 Well if soccer can tell you if it like touched 264 00:14:17.000 --> 00:14:20.799 somebody's hair, right, if the ball moved off hitting somebody's hair. 265 00:14:20.840 --> 00:14:22.919 You think with baseball as they would be able to 266 00:14:22.919 --> 00:14:25.279 figure out, you know, track them in real time with 267 00:14:25.320 --> 00:14:25.879 the radars. 268 00:14:25.960 --> 00:14:29.200 But right, I say they had that thing on soccer, 269 00:14:29.240 --> 00:14:30.919 the meter, then. 270 00:14:30.840 --> 00:14:35.799 Yeah, but I think it's you gotta like you know, 271 00:14:35.960 --> 00:14:40.600 I hitting it over like this is a recurring issue, 272 00:14:40.639 --> 00:14:41.960 like trying to read it when it goes over the 273 00:14:41.960 --> 00:14:43.639 foul pol right, it goes left or right of the 274 00:14:43.639 --> 00:14:46.480 foul ball, you just look for the ball disappears or 275 00:14:46.519 --> 00:14:47.679 doesn't right. 276 00:14:48.600 --> 00:14:51.159 This is the Bryce Harper Hunter's trickland ball too, right, 277 00:14:53.320 --> 00:14:57.039 I mean, like people argue about that and that's that's fine. 278 00:14:57.080 --> 00:15:00.120 But like again, every every angle I saw. 279 00:15:00.279 --> 00:15:03.679 Sure look run on the field. I'm sure it would 280 00:15:03.679 --> 00:15:04.799 have been upheld as a home run. 281 00:15:05.480 --> 00:15:08.200 Right they said stands, They did not say confirms, And 282 00:15:08.240 --> 00:15:13.559 I understand that, but I also think they should be 283 00:15:13.600 --> 00:15:16.080 empowered to make like. 284 00:15:16.559 --> 00:15:18.879 Yeah, I mean, I guess, But also I don't. 285 00:15:18.799 --> 00:15:25.320 Like this this the overturned confirmed stands, tryad thing. I 286 00:15:25.320 --> 00:15:27.080 don't think the call in the field should necessarily be 287 00:15:27.279 --> 00:15:32.639 given primacy. The people doing the review have more angles 288 00:15:32.679 --> 00:15:37.919 and more time and slower motion to make determination. Their 289 00:15:37.960 --> 00:15:40.960 best determination is the best determination. 290 00:15:41.000 --> 00:15:43.480 I've seen this suggested with the AR sometimes where it's like, 291 00:15:43.559 --> 00:15:45.559 I mean, obviously off sides or if the ball cross 292 00:15:45.639 --> 00:15:48.039 the line is pretty much automated at this point. But 293 00:15:48.159 --> 00:15:52.120 for like other stuff, the DAR should not know the 294 00:15:52.159 --> 00:15:55.000 call on the field before right right, But it was 295 00:15:55.039 --> 00:15:56.559 hard to do because they're watching the whole game as 296 00:15:56.559 --> 00:16:00.120 it goes, obviously, But like it's easier for MLB. I 297 00:16:00.120 --> 00:16:03.360 feel like where you're only sending you know, certain they 298 00:16:03.360 --> 00:16:05.799 have like thirteen monitors up or whatever, you're only sending 299 00:16:05.840 --> 00:16:08.000 certain calls there, like they don't have to know what 300 00:16:08.039 --> 00:16:10.039 the call in the field is. You ring a bell 301 00:16:10.320 --> 00:16:11.799 and you look, they look at this play and they 302 00:16:11.799 --> 00:16:13.799 look at the play and they say, Okay, Sayer, he's 303 00:16:13.799 --> 00:16:14.200 out right. 304 00:16:14.240 --> 00:16:16.759 Don't tell them someone saw it it is. But I 305 00:16:16.759 --> 00:16:20.720 also just think it should be the replace determination sure, 306 00:16:20.799 --> 00:16:22.000 whether they know it or not. 307 00:16:22.200 --> 00:16:25.600 Frankly, yeah, they should just make whatever the fifty one 308 00:16:25.639 --> 00:16:28.600 to forty nine call is, the fifty one should should ring. 309 00:16:29.320 --> 00:16:32.360 I think that's a perfectly reasonable way to feel. I 310 00:16:32.799 --> 00:16:35.320 don't know that. I mean, I don't know what the 311 00:16:35.360 --> 00:16:38.559 technology is like to actually do this with the over 312 00:16:38.639 --> 00:16:40.840 the foul pole thing. I think it's still just going 313 00:16:40.919 --> 00:16:42.360 to be a guy looking at the screen. 314 00:16:43.919 --> 00:16:44.320 Yeah, but. 315 00:16:45.799 --> 00:16:49.360 If they're fifty one percent confident verse forty nine, Yeah. 316 00:16:50.000 --> 00:16:52.080 I just think if even if it's a guy just 317 00:16:52.080 --> 00:16:55.240 looking at the screen, I just think that's a better 318 00:16:57.480 --> 00:17:02.080 it's a better understanding of what what is going on 319 00:17:02.159 --> 00:17:04.160 than someone who had to watch it in real time 320 00:17:04.279 --> 00:17:07.400 and try. And it's true, we also doesn't mean it 321 00:17:07.400 --> 00:17:09.079 will be right one hundred percent of the time. 322 00:17:09.599 --> 00:17:12.119 We don't even have like cameras on every base right now, 323 00:17:12.119 --> 00:17:14.319 which something thing you think they could fig I. 324 00:17:14.319 --> 00:17:15.960 Guess that's the other thing is why is there not 325 00:17:16.440 --> 00:17:23.240 like just a straight, like a steady cam down the line? Yeah, right, 326 00:17:23.559 --> 00:17:28.559 like that should that angle should be on every like 327 00:17:28.599 --> 00:17:32.039 I'm down, both lines should just be a standard angle. Now, 328 00:17:32.079 --> 00:17:37.720 it doesn't always provide clarification, but it seemed like, again, 329 00:17:37.839 --> 00:17:39.920 combine that with some of the other looks and you 330 00:17:40.039 --> 00:17:46.039 get closer to you know, I don't know something substantive. 331 00:17:46.799 --> 00:17:49.400 Got a camera right on top of the foul pole 332 00:17:49.559 --> 00:17:51.680 looking straight at the sky. 333 00:17:52.400 --> 00:17:55.000 Look, if I had to deal with dirt cam, that 334 00:17:55.240 --> 00:18:00.359 was completely useless for a base cam. Again, they always 335 00:18:00.440 --> 00:18:02.640 do basse cam like they're showing us the base, but 336 00:18:02.680 --> 00:18:05.359 they're just showing us someone running at a base. It 337 00:18:05.400 --> 00:18:06.160 doesn't solve. 338 00:18:06.880 --> 00:18:09.519 It's never would have lost like exactly one of these 339 00:18:09.519 --> 00:18:13.319 foul pole cameras. Ever, it's the O'Neal cruise balance off 340 00:18:13.319 --> 00:18:15.119 the top. That's the only one that would have ever 341 00:18:15.160 --> 00:18:15.519 been hit. 342 00:18:16.200 --> 00:18:20.759 Yeah, yeah it is. Yeah, I don't know. I I Also, 343 00:18:21.400 --> 00:18:24.200 here's the other question. It was a tie game at 344 00:18:24.200 --> 00:18:28.119 the time, right, the Orioles lose this game by two. Yeah, 345 00:18:29.880 --> 00:18:34.039 maybe they make different picture decisions. Yeah presumably, But do 346 00:18:34.079 --> 00:18:36.119 you feel the lost hinges on this? 347 00:18:36.960 --> 00:18:38.640 I mean to an extent, Like that's the other thing. 348 00:18:38.759 --> 00:18:41.480 We're talking about this so much because it was a 349 00:18:41.519 --> 00:18:45.680 fairly high leverage situation both for the game and really, 350 00:18:45.759 --> 00:18:47.519 you know, for the oriel season to an extent at 351 00:18:47.519 --> 00:18:50.400 this point, absolutely, you know that's about it is like 352 00:18:50.440 --> 00:18:54.000 that somebody's gonna win this wildcard by one game or 353 00:18:54.319 --> 00:18:56.640 have tied and have the tiebreaker, right, Like, I don't 354 00:18:56.640 --> 00:18:59.559 think I don't feel like any of these al teams 355 00:19:00.039 --> 00:19:03.920 are gonna put a lot of daylight between themselves and 356 00:19:04.039 --> 00:19:05.640 the six teams in it right now. 357 00:19:07.079 --> 00:19:08.880 I will also point out, by the way, it was 358 00:19:08.880 --> 00:19:12.559 Pee Alonzo who hit it. Yep, As we noted last podcast, 359 00:19:12.640 --> 00:19:16.640 Pete Alonzo on an absolute tale he already had a 360 00:19:16.640 --> 00:19:18.480 home run in that you already had a home run 361 00:19:18.519 --> 00:19:21.440 in the game. Right He is slugging eight thirty seven 362 00:19:21.559 --> 00:19:25.559 over the last two weeks, He's up to a one 363 00:19:25.720 --> 00:19:27.559 forty one ops. 364 00:19:27.119 --> 00:19:30.400 Plus, and the Orioles have been under five hundreds, under 365 00:19:30.400 --> 00:19:32.359 five hundred. 366 00:19:33.200 --> 00:19:38.119 Yeah, I mean, I will say I will also say 367 00:19:38.119 --> 00:19:40.839 this following up from last podcast. I think I already 368 00:19:40.880 --> 00:19:44.000 sent this to Zach in a chat, but I asked 369 00:19:44.000 --> 00:19:47.400 a friend of mine who's a big, big Orioles fan, 370 00:19:48.759 --> 00:19:51.240 because I said, like, is this what people want? Right? 371 00:19:51.680 --> 00:19:54.559 Is this exciting for people? Is it pulling people in 372 00:19:54.599 --> 00:20:00.519 the way MLB might want it to. And I and like, 373 00:20:01.359 --> 00:20:03.559 you know, just out of curiosity, what is this like 374 00:20:03.640 --> 00:20:06.880 for you? Like this is not a good team, but 375 00:20:07.000 --> 00:20:10.599 you're in it, And he said the things that you 376 00:20:10.640 --> 00:20:13.079 would normally expect, like once it doesn't really matter, like 377 00:20:13.079 --> 00:20:15.200 I'm not gonna apologize if they make the playoffs, like 378 00:20:15.279 --> 00:20:17.720 how they got there. I want them to make the 379 00:20:17.759 --> 00:20:20.759 playoffs unless he said, I if I knew Michael Oas 380 00:20:20.759 --> 00:20:23.799 was getting fired, I would accept not making the playoffs. 381 00:20:24.559 --> 00:20:27.640 But he said, you know, I want to make the playoffs. 382 00:20:27.680 --> 00:20:29.640 I said, but but like I was like, how does 383 00:20:29.680 --> 00:20:33.680 it feel though, and he was like, well, it's absolutely 384 00:20:33.759 --> 00:20:37.319 miserable watching them every game, but the time between games 385 00:20:37.519 --> 00:20:38.960 is not so bad. 386 00:20:40.599 --> 00:20:42.279 I think, like I felt a little bit this towards 387 00:20:42.279 --> 00:20:43.720 the end of the season with the Mets last year, 388 00:20:43.759 --> 00:20:46.359 like I'm mad, I have to care about this, and 389 00:20:46.400 --> 00:20:49.440 not just like that I have to care about this 390 00:20:49.599 --> 00:20:51.640 met scene that's playing badly, but also like I have 391 00:20:51.720 --> 00:20:55.960 to check this Red's Diamondbacks game out right in September, 392 00:20:56.680 --> 00:21:01.319 and like care about the outcome and how Tony Santalon 393 00:21:01.440 --> 00:21:04.440 is pitching, Like I don't like you don't like, that's 394 00:21:04.480 --> 00:21:08.319 not that's not fun. I feel like not a fun experience. 395 00:21:09.079 --> 00:21:11.480 I mean, the Orioles are a weird one because they're 396 00:21:12.359 --> 00:21:15.359 I mean, they care about Pete Alonzo right now, who's 397 00:21:15.400 --> 00:21:18.440 been there for less than a year. Their second best 398 00:21:18.440 --> 00:21:21.440 position player at the moment, I mean might be Christian 399 00:21:21.559 --> 00:21:24.680 Carnassio and Strand who's been there for Like, it's definitely. 400 00:21:24.319 --> 00:21:24.680 Christian and. 401 00:21:26.519 --> 00:21:28.119