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<v Speaker 1>It's night with Dan Ray. I'm telling you feazy Boston's.

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<v Speaker 2>News radio headline in this morning's Boston Globe, apparent assassination

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<v Speaker 2>bid targets Trump. Okay, well, I don't know how it

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<v Speaker 2>can be an apparent assassination. It's either an assassination or

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<v Speaker 2>it's not. I do think it can be categorized as

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<v Speaker 2>an assassination attempt because this individual who I think I

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<v Speaker 2>can figure out his motive and I want to hear

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<v Speaker 2>what you folks say, this is a presidential candidate. The

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<v Speaker 2>last time that a president or a presidential candidate was

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<v Speaker 2>shot at or was the victim of a potential shooting

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<v Speaker 2>twice was Gerald Ford back in like nineteen seventy five,

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<v Speaker 2>when he visited San Francisco on a successive days in

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<v Speaker 2>the same month of nuts excessive days, but in the

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<v Speaker 2>same month, I think it was November, and there was

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<v Speaker 2>a woman named Sarah Jane Moore who took a shot

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<v Speaker 2>at him, and then later on Squeaky Frome, one of

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<v Speaker 2>the Manson family members. So this guy, I hope some

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<v Speaker 2>of you saw the arrest. Ryan Routh, fifty eight years

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<v Speaker 2>of age, the acting director the Secret Service, Acting Director

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<v Speaker 2>Ronald Rowe Junior said that this guy did not get

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<v Speaker 2>a shot off. He was in the woods of this

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<v Speaker 2>golf course for twelve hours. Now they're saying he was

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<v Speaker 2>there since as early as two am on Sunday morning.

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<v Speaker 2>So I got a lot of questions. Get a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of questions, and I hope some of you might want

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<v Speaker 2>to speculator and give me an answer. How did this

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<v Speaker 2>guy know Donald Trump was going to play golf that

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<v Speaker 2>day had he been there before. He brought with him

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<v Speaker 2>a semi automatic weapon, which he, as a former felon,

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<v Speaker 2>should never have had. It also had its serial number expunged,

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<v Speaker 2>which means that he probably got it somewhere on the

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<v Speaker 2>black market. He's there, Thank God that there's a Secret

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<v Speaker 2>Service agent who who saw the rifle. The barrel of

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<v Speaker 2>the rifle extending through it looks like a chain link fence.

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<v Speaker 2>This guy had some sort of tiles there, ceramic tiles,

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<v Speaker 2>which was supposed to protect him. I don't know a

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<v Speaker 2>lot about ceramic dials, but at the best of my knowledge,

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<v Speaker 2>a bullet from an AK forty seven or something will

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<v Speaker 2>crack a ceramic tile. So this guy was in court today.

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<v Speaker 2>I listened all day long. I'm fascinated by this This

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<v Speaker 2>guy apparently was laughing court. He's fifty eight years old.

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<v Speaker 2>The rifle that he had was a loaded SKS style

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<v Speaker 2>rifle as semi automatic developed by the Soviets in the

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen forties, with a scope as well as food and

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<v Speaker 2>a digital camera. Looked like he had a GoPro there.

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<v Speaker 2>So the question is what's his motive? Well, apparently this

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<v Speaker 2>guy gone to Ukraine a couple of times and fashioned

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<v Speaker 2>himself at the age of fifty eight of some sort

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<v Speaker 2>of a freedom fighter in Ukraine. I was listening more

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<v Speaker 2>to CNN today than anything, and they did a pretty

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<v Speaker 2>good job in this story. They said that apparently in

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<v Speaker 2>his writings, he's all over the internet. We knew nothing

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<v Speaker 2>about the kid who took the shot at President Trump

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<v Speaker 2>in Butler, Pennsylvania to speak of. He's still a mystery.

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<v Speaker 2>He supposedly had had corresponded or been in contact with

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<v Speaker 2>people overseas, but the FBI hasn't been able to to

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<v Speaker 2>break through I guess the cryptology or whatever to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to to figure out who he was talking to.

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<v Speaker 2>Who was this guy talking to? This guy apparently is

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<v Speaker 2>able to fly to Ukraine. What does he do for

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<v Speaker 2>a job? I don't think he has a job. Where's

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<v Speaker 2>his money coming from?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>He apparently is pretty anti Israeli Inti Israel. According to

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<v Speaker 2>some of his writings in screed, there was a woman

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<v Speaker 2>who interviewed him at the at the Capitol a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of years ago. When he was grabbed yesterday forty five

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<v Speaker 2>miles north of Mari Lago, the police said, do you

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<v Speaker 2>know why we pulled you over? He said, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean some of the responses that we have here, and

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<v Speaker 2>I just if you haven't heard as much of this

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<v Speaker 2>as I have, I just want to play a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of these bites for you and then we will we

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<v Speaker 2>will move on. So here is Yes, let's start off

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<v Speaker 2>with this is the the Palm Beach, Florida County Sheriff

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<v Speaker 2>Rick Bradshaw. Okay, cut number one, Rob.

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<v Speaker 4>All right. This afternoon call came out, shots fired.

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<v Speaker 5>That was called in by the Secret Service because we're

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<v Speaker 5>in constant contact with him all the time. We were

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<v Speaker 5>notified to that, and we had unus here that immediately

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<v Speaker 5>sealed off the area.

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<v Speaker 2>Not so immediately because the guy ran away. When the

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<v Speaker 2>Secret Service agent did the Secret Service agent did the

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<v Speaker 2>right thing. Blow the guy up. I mean just fire.

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<v Speaker 2>You got mess around here. The guy's got a he's

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<v Speaker 2>got a scope, he's got a gun, and he did flee. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>apparently the same sheriff talked about that, some person saw

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<v Speaker 2>the guy running. They took a photo of the car

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<v Speaker 2>and the plane, and they caught him about forty miles

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<v Speaker 2>north on Route ninety five north, number two.

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<v Speaker 5>Rub Fortunately, we were able to locate a witness that

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<v Speaker 5>came to us and said, hey.

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<v Speaker 4>I saw the guy running out of the bushes.

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<v Speaker 5>He jumped into a black Nissan and I took a

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<v Speaker 5>picture of the vehicle and the tank, which was great.

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<v Speaker 4>So we had that information.

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<v Speaker 5>Our Real Time Crime Center put it out to the.

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<v Speaker 4>License plate readers and we were able to get a.

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<v Speaker 5>Hit on that vehicle on I ninety five as it

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<v Speaker 5>was headed into Martin County. We got a hold of

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<v Speaker 5>Martin County Sheriff's office alerted them and they spotted the

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<v Speaker 5>vehicle and pulled it over and detained the guy.

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<v Speaker 4>After that, we took the victim. I'm sorry. The witness

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<v Speaker 4>that witnessed the incident took flew.

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<v Speaker 5>Him up there and he identified as the person that

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<v Speaker 5>he saw running out.

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<v Speaker 4>Of the bushes that jumped into the car.

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<v Speaker 2>And again the guy supposed he was there for twelve hours.

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<v Speaker 2>Twelve hours. This is one more SoundBite from Florida County

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<v Speaker 2>Sheriff Palm Beach County Sheriff Rick Bradshaw cut three robed.

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<v Speaker 5>Now in the bushes where this guy was is a

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<v Speaker 5>eight forty seven style rifle with a scope, two backpacks

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<v Speaker 5>which were hung on the fist that had a ceramic

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<v Speaker 5>tile at him, had a GoPro which he was going

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<v Speaker 5>to take pictures of.

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<v Speaker 4>So those will be a process right now.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is a crazy, crazy story. And are we

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<v Speaker 2>becoming a banana Republic? I guess is really what my

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<v Speaker 2>concern is at this point. I mean I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to you know, Look, it goes without saying this should

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<v Speaker 2>none of this should happen. But we've had a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of these incidents in recent years. The guy that shot

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<v Speaker 2>up the Republican softball practice a few years ago. Then

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<v Speaker 2>you have the other the run of the Mill shootings,

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<v Speaker 2>the guy that killed was at fifty two people at

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<v Speaker 2>the music festival in Las Vegas, the guy last year

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<v Speaker 2>in Maine who killed innocent people for I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what reason is possible. Look, I don't want anyone in

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<v Speaker 2>this country to be shot. Let's be killed, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>particularly if they're simply a politician running for office. So

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<v Speaker 2>I want to know, what do you think is going

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<v Speaker 2>on the we're in an election cycle. I get that, Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>The Republicans are saying, well, you call this guy a fascist,

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<v Speaker 2>you call him Hitler, you call him a dictator. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>you do get people who are off their rockers. This

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<v Speaker 2>is a woman on MSNBC yesterday, someone named doctor Jackie Lewis.

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<v Speaker 2>She's on MSNBC Cut eleven. Rob. We exported, we exforded racism,

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<v Speaker 2>fascism to NACU. We exploited it to South Africa, Donathan.

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<v Speaker 1>We know how to do it. We're good at it.

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<v Speaker 1>And let's not pretend that Donald Trump isn't exactly like Mussolini,

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<v Speaker 1>exactly like Hitler.

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<v Speaker 2>He is that guy, Okay. So first of all, how

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<v Speaker 2>does someone like that we exploited racism and fascism to

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<v Speaker 2>Nazi Germany? Are you serious? Lady? Who the hell are you?

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<v Speaker 2>Doctor Jackie Lewis, we exported racism, fascism to Nazi Germany.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think so. And then let's not pretend that

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump isn't exactly like Mussolini, exactly like Hitler. You

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<v Speaker 2>have people who are off their rock as they say, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, if I can stop this guy from becoming president,

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<v Speaker 2>that's pretty weird stuff that I think. Last week we

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<v Speaker 2>talked about Donald Trump talking about the dogs, the Haitians

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<v Speaker 2>eating dogs and cats. Pretty weird stuff. Okay, pretty weird stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't shoot and kill somebody for being that weird.

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<v Speaker 2>But when you start saying they're like Mussolini or Hitler,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Sometimes people figure they'll be remembered in history.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's just go to the lines. How do we stop this?

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<v Speaker 2>What is the solution to stop this? I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to see anyone. And we have a whole bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>people now running for well, two people running for president,

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<v Speaker 2>two people running for for vice president. We have people

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<v Speaker 2>running for the US Senate, people running for Congress. We

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<v Speaker 2>have people on the left, on the right, Democrats, Republicans.

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<v Speaker 2>We have Senate seats, thirty four Senate seats up. There's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of political candidates out there running around and

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<v Speaker 2>it's getting pretty nasty. Somehow, some way, we have to

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<v Speaker 2>bring back some level of civility. How can we do it?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking for your advice and your guidance and your reaction.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, this secret Service agent hadn't seen this. Donald

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<v Speaker 2>Trump would have been in front of this guy probably

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<v Speaker 2>in about six one or eight minutes. He's on the

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<v Speaker 2>fifth hole. How would have that gone down with the

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<v Speaker 2>American people? Uh? This is this is probably one of

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<v Speaker 2>the most serious topics we've ever talked about on Night Side.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to politicize it, but I want to

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<v Speaker 2>hear how we get out of this downward spiral? Six

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<v Speaker 2>one seven ten thirty six one seven. Will be right

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<v Speaker 2>back on Nightside. Let him up.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Way live from the Window World

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<v Speaker 1>night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's go to the phones. I'm gonna go to

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<v Speaker 2>Tom and the Philippines. First. Tom, you were first this

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<v Speaker 2>hour on Nightside. Put you right to the head of

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<v Speaker 2>the line. Go ahead, Tom, yam, I just.

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<v Speaker 6>The news this morning in the Philippines because I am

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<v Speaker 6>been paying attention. But I gotta tell you something. How does.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course at a certain Tom your line is horrible?

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<v Speaker 2>Rob clean up his line for me, please if you can.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Tom was asking how does a guy know? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess we got to find out. I think it

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<v Speaker 2>should be pretty simple for them to figure that out.

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<v Speaker 2>If the guy's willing to talk, maybe he will, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>he won't. At the same time, maybe he just figured

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<v Speaker 2>it's a Sunday and he figured he'd stay there. Rob

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<v Speaker 2>were able to you lost him. Tom, if you're listening,

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<v Speaker 2>please call us back. Okay, I think you were raising

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<v Speaker 2>a really good question, So please Tom, give us a

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<v Speaker 2>callback again. Maybe you're in a bad spot, but we

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<v Speaker 2>would love to hear back from this. So I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's a serious question. Was did the guy just all

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<v Speaker 2>of a sudden decide to stake himself in the woods

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<v Speaker 2>for twelve hours on the chance that Donald Trump might

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<v Speaker 2>come by. I mean it was pretty obvious where he was.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the single Secret Service agent saw at a

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<v Speaker 2>pretty good distance the gun protruding through. I think it

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<v Speaker 2>looked like a chain link fence. Again, I stand to

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<v Speaker 2>be corrected on that. I'm just responding to what I

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<v Speaker 2>saw on today. Let me go next to Dot and

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<v Speaker 2>Tom in the Philippines' back. Okay, let's see if Okay, Tom,

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<v Speaker 2>you just get back in under the wire. Sorry, it

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<v Speaker 2>was all of a sudden, we lost you.

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<v Speaker 6>Go ahead, Tom, Yeah, no, I find it ironic or

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<v Speaker 6>be there at a golf course at a certain time.

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<v Speaker 6>Let's somebody must have fed him information. And remember when

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<v Speaker 6>Go to the storage space where Trump uh was alleged

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<v Speaker 6>I have no doubt the FBI planted bugging devices in there.

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<v Speaker 6>And I do think the FBI is compromised. I truly do.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you if that's that's Tom Waasak, that's a theory,

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<v Speaker 2>that's your theory. Yes, I I there's no reporter in

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<v Speaker 2>in Boston in the nineteen eighties nineties more than me.

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<v Speaker 6>That it's either that. It's either that or Trump. Someone

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<v Speaker 6>in Trump's organization is working against him, and if his

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so let me run another theory. Going to run

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<v Speaker 2>another theory by you. Okay, what about the possibility this

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<v Speaker 2>guy apparently he was in there for twelve hours if

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<v Speaker 2>he had information about when Trump was going to be

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<v Speaker 2>playing golf on his golf course. I don't think the

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<v Speaker 2>He apparently wouldn't there?

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<v Speaker 6>No. I right, Well, you know something I don't know,

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<v Speaker 6>And I don't know if Trump was a creature of

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<v Speaker 6>of the week to do this. I just don't know.

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<v Speaker 6>But I don't know anybody who's run for president in

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<v Speaker 6>in the open that are about to do an assassination attempt.

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<v Speaker 6>And by the way, that rifle.

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<v Speaker 2>On nineteen seventy five, I mentioned that at the top

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<v Speaker 6>From of course. But number one, they weren't with rifles, okay,

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<v Speaker 6>they were with handguns. And the point being that an

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<v Speaker 2>I get the point, you want it. But what I'm

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<v Speaker 2>in the afternoon, why are you in there since two

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<v Speaker 2>that's been reported, maybe he made a lucky guess. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. I don't want to downplay any possibility to him.

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<v Speaker 2>There has to be a thorough investmentation.

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<v Speaker 6>And the other point is that you played the woman

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<v Speaker 6>on MSNBC. You know there's a talk show host I

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<v Speaker 6>call on the low End. I won't mention the name,

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<v Speaker 6>but every day on his show he says ignorant, willfully ignorant,

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<v Speaker 6>white people that are stupid are voting for Donald Trump. Well,

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<v Speaker 6>there's all this rhetoric that's going around of demonizing people

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<v Speaker 6>at vote for Trump as well as Donald Trump as Hitler.

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<v Speaker 6>Donald Trump has never called for a master race or

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<v Speaker 6>anything like that. It's all hyperbole. But here's the point.

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<v Speaker 6>When you constantly beat that drum beat, beat that trum beat, Okay,

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<v Speaker 6>you're going to send the nut jobs and maybe that

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<v Speaker 6>I have no doubt. Was this guy probably a enough

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<v Speaker 6>job who sees himself a smarter that wants to go

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<v Speaker 6>down in history. Of course he is. I mean, my god,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, is all kinds of terrorists that want to

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<v Speaker 6>go down in history to be the guy who took

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<v Speaker 6>out Hitler or took out Trump or whomever. But no,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, I blame a lot of that on the media.

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<v Speaker 6>Joe Biden certainly has demonized Trump's supporters, calling MAGA an

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<v Speaker 2>Enough again, I think the points you make are important

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<v Speaker 2>at the same time to be fair, to be fair,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Trump has also engaged himself in some of

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<v Speaker 2>this rhetoric that is over the top. The idea about

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Haitians eating dogs and cats in Ohio, the

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<v Speaker 2>idea about he didn't know that the Kamala Harris was black.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, why that doesn't That doesn't give somebody the

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<v Speaker 3>right to take his life.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, it doesn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not suggesting that. But what I'm saying is he's engaged.

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<v Speaker 6>That's what I'm hearing that. That is what I'm hearing

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<v Speaker 6>on NMSNBC and other commentators that will because of Donald

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<v Speaker 6>Trump and his irresponsible rhetoric, has brought this all on himself.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm sorry, No, that's not in a civilized world.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>Look and I understand that, and I I point the

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<v Speaker 2>blame at this woman type. And again I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>who you know, obviously I'm not. I've never heard of her.

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<v Speaker 2>Jackie Lewis is her name from MSNBC. I look her

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<v Speaker 2>up here and during the break and find out what

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<v Speaker 2>what she's all about. But we're in a very dangerous

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<v Speaker 2>society here at this point, and if we don't watch it,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to lose the country because all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to be like some sort of a banana republic.

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<v Speaker 2>I felt that way after the kid climbed up on

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<v Speaker 2>the roof and took a shot, which was only from

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<v Speaker 2>about one hundred and one hundred. I don't think it

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<v Speaker 6>No, it was it was one hundred and forty yards,

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<v Speaker 6>which Stan, I'm a deer hunter.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got this right. It was forty yards, a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit longer than a football field. Yeah, so you were right.

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<v Speaker 6>That's an easy that's an easy that's an easy shot

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<v Speaker 6>to make in a prone position. Uh. You know, I

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<v Speaker 6>don't know why the kid had went for his He

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<v Speaker 6>should have gone for the body, to be quite frank.

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<v Speaker 6>But anyway, God.

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<v Speaker 2>And thank god Trump turned his head. And I would

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<v Speaker 2>feel the same way whether it's you know, Fham President Obama. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't matter. We got to get if if if

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<v Speaker 2>we don't weed this stuff out, and we live in

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<v Speaker 2>a free society where there were nutjobs. This guy was

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<v Speaker 2>probably a nut job at bottom line. But yeah, Manah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's tough. Tom. Thanks for calling back, appreciate.

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<v Speaker 3>It, Take care, Bye bye, good night.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll take very quick break. Here comes the news six

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<v Speaker 2>one set. We got one line at six one seven,

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<v Speaker 1>How are we going to handle this?

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<v Speaker 2>And I would like to hear from some of you

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<v Speaker 2>to say that we got to take the temperature down here. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>we got to take the temperature down. I was watching

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<v Speaker 2>one of the newscasts tonight, UH and Celtics player Derek White,

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<v Speaker 2>great basketball player, apparently played in Colorado. He was at

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<v Speaker 2>a football game over the weekend college football game. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if it was Colorado Colorado State. Maybe was

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<v Speaker 2>we can lose this country, folks, very easily. We can

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<v Speaker 2>lose this country very easily. And I'm not saying lose

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<v Speaker 2>be civil about this. We should be able to have conversations,

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<v Speaker 2>have discussions, run campaigns, vote for our candidates. There should

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go next to Dot in Medford. Welcome back. How

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<v Speaker 2>are you hi, dear.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, first of all, I'm so happy that you're on,

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<v Speaker 7>because when night you're in the radio one, it's not you.

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<v Speaker 7>It's not a happy moment. But anyway, I've had a

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<v Speaker 7>couple of little stiffness tonight, but I am so upset

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<v Speaker 7>that we've almost lost President Trump twice. And Tom from

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<v Speaker 7>the Philippines said everything I agree with. He was great.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, look, I don't want to lose any presidents.

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<v Speaker 2>Candidate may I remind people that the Biden administration in

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<v Speaker 2>the in the person of may Orcus, the Secretary of

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<v Speaker 2>Homeland Security, refuse to give Robert F. Kennedy junior secret

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<v Speaker 2>Tell me about it. I know you knew it, but

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<v Speaker 2>but that is a very you know, I'm I was

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<v Speaker 2>terrified that Bobby Kennedy would get shot because you have

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<v Speaker 2>to So this is the same, may Orcust should go

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<v Speaker 2>this this this guy has got to go.

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<v Speaker 7>Then a while back.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, the House impeached Ent, but the Senate sat on it,

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<v Speaker 7>Yep, disgusting, really, but you know it is so atrocious,

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<v Speaker 7>but you know, more atrocious than president presidential candidates. The

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<v Speaker 7>killing of small children in their classroom. That is the

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<v Speaker 7>worst thing that's going on in this country. That's worse

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<v Speaker 7>than any political person.

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<v Speaker 2>And you have Uvaldi and you have Newtown, Connecticut. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know, we gotta we got to get

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<v Speaker 2>our arms around that.

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<v Speaker 7>This is how do you do How do you do it?

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<v Speaker 7>When a guy like this clown in Florida could get

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<v Speaker 7>his hands on this on this uh a gun, et cetera,

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<v Speaker 7>with his record, how could he get us? He's got

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<v Speaker 7>a record in North Carolina?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>And then he was living in Hawaii.

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<v Speaker 2>So he's going to Ukraine. I don't know about you,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, once in my life he had a family vacation.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never been to Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, he's got somebody backing him. I'll tell you that.

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<v Speaker 2>I got a wonder.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously he doesn't have a job, does he If he

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<v Speaker 2>He had a business in Hawaiian What sort of business

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know, but but it's a if they should

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<v Speaker 7>take him and put him were they're never going to

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<v Speaker 7>find him again.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I want to find out everything about him. I

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<v Speaker 2>want to find out everything about who he was in

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<v Speaker 2>any other people involved in this. I think we don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>We know hardly nothing about this kid Crooks in Butler, Pennsylvania.

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<v Speaker 2>and he had somehow he was able to have email

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<v Speaker 2>contact with people overseas and they can't encrypt what the

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<v Speaker 2>messages were, Well, who the hell is you were a

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<v Speaker 2>twenty year old kid?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, of course, as my mother used to say, the

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<v Speaker 7>Federal Bungalers of Investigations. She had no use for the

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<v Speaker 7>FBI years ago. Well, and I think they have a

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<v Speaker 7>terrible record.

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<v Speaker 2>It was led by Jago whoever. You know how how

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<v Speaker 2>much of the end of Belly I mentioned. I saw

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<v Speaker 2>the FBI here in Boston and.

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<v Speaker 7>You you did a great job. I'm telling you, but

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<v Speaker 7>most people can't do it. It's too difficult. But you

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<v Speaker 7>know something's going to be done because the next time

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<v Speaker 7>they might kill President Trump and then what we have

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<v Speaker 7>we'll have nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>You have riots in the street is what you have.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, oh yeah, a person killed. Anyway, Dough, I

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<v Speaker 2>love your calls.

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<v Speaker 7>You know that, Key Cally yourself. Take care you do,

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<v Speaker 7>Thank you much.

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<v Speaker 2>Mixed up. I lean in Waltham. I lean your thoughts

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<v Speaker 2>on this.

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<v Speaker 8>First of all, I'm just get a quick miss on

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<v Speaker 8>the Haitian eating dogs. When I lived in Indonesia, when

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<v Speaker 8>I went out to eat, we never ordered meat because

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<v Speaker 8>you didn't know what you were going to get. Okay, again, specifically,

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<v Speaker 8>I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting and interesting observation. I've never been to Indonesia. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't have a desire to go to Indonesia, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not familiar with their culture. So but let's talk about

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<v Speaker 2>what we're talking about tonight. What's your thought on tonight?

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<v Speaker 8>But that goes into that, because that's the same type

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<v Speaker 8>of thing that people want to say.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, but I think it's a huge leap to

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<v Speaker 2>say that, to say that people, I've seen no evidence

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<v Speaker 2>of that, And I think that that the president really

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<v Speaker 2>wasted time. The former president wasted time in his debate

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<v Speaker 2>with Vice President Harris. How do you go there? I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's like you're off. He was off in Lalla Land. Okay.

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<v Speaker 8>So here's the thing. There's a big difference between calling

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<v Speaker 8>people names. It's silly, it's immature, Okay, but it's different

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<v Speaker 8>than demonizing someone. There's a big distinction there. True, this

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<v Speaker 8>problem is not a new problem. I'd say at least

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<v Speaker 8>thirty years ago. I did a study. I was in

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<v Speaker 8>a taking a class called Children at Risk, and everybody

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<v Speaker 8>was picking like alcohol, drug addiction, poverty, et cetera, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 8>For what put children? I picked TV and it was

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<v Speaker 8>very difficult to find information, but I picked that because

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<v Speaker 8>I remember as an undergraduate, the people who are established

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<v Speaker 8>Sesame Street had gone to hospitals and watched kids watch TV.

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<v Speaker 8>And that's how they developed their format was it was

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<v Speaker 8>basically an advertising format format.

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<v Speaker 2>So Street, what was Sesame Street burden? Or are you

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<v Speaker 2>talking about what? I don't understand the point you're trying

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<v Speaker 2>to make. It was Sesame Street corrosive of young people's minds.

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<v Speaker 8>No, no, I'm not making amplay. I'm saying they watched

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<v Speaker 8>that's what initiated My investigator saying that perhaps with the

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<v Speaker 8>violence and I'm talking about the experience of some of

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<v Speaker 8>the cartoons, et cetera on TV. Okay, led me after

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<v Speaker 8>having heard dad years ago say.

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<v Speaker 9>Maybe it's TV.

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<v Speaker 8>That we need to look at and it was very hot.

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<v Speaker 2>Well start we should start now. As bad as TV

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<v Speaker 2>might have been, let's let's talk about computers where kids fourteen,

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen years old can get lost in the sea a pornography,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, compared Sesame Street, Burton, Irnie and.

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<v Speaker 8>You know the Cookie Monster.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, okay, I thought you were going after Burrnie.

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<v Speaker 2>My kids watched a lot of I love.

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<v Speaker 8>What I'm saying is that's what led me to look

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<v Speaker 8>at TV. Okay, because that they had used TV as

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<v Speaker 8>a model. Okay, we say world about how it got

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<v Speaker 8>kids attention.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So how does that relate to what we're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about tonight?

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<v Speaker 8>I did the research? How does that.

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<v Speaker 2>Relate to what we're talking about tonight? I lean, yeah, well, Eileen,

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<v Speaker 2>I know you did research on TV. How does relate

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<v Speaker 2>to what we're talking about tonight?

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<v Speaker 8>Coming It's been developing for years? Think about this superheroes, Okay,

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<v Speaker 8>what's the what's the ideal behind might makes right, that's

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<v Speaker 8>the idea of superheroes. That's what it's about. We're saying

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<v Speaker 8>that if we think we're right, we can we can

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<v Speaker 8>use whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Might we want. Superheroes, superheroes been have been in Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, Eileen, you've lost me. But and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>up at my break. So I was trying to I

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<v Speaker 2>was trying to actually have a conversation with at superheroes

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<v Speaker 2>since comic books in the in the nineteen twenties and

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<v Speaker 2>the nineteen thirties, Superman, Dick Tracy, all of that was superheroes.

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<v Speaker 2>They were the good guys, Superman fighting for you know,

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<v Speaker 2>true justice in the American way, right, It's it's I

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<v Speaker 2>don't I don't know where your research took you and

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<v Speaker 2>how that relates to tonight. But I'm up on my break,

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<v Speaker 2>so I gotta let you run.

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, by thank you for the call.

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<v Speaker 2>Coming back on, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Said, Now back to Dan Mine from the Window World

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<v Speaker 1>night Side Studios on w b Z the news radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's go to the calls and go to Susan

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<v Speaker 2>in Gambridge. Susan, welcome next on Nightside. Go ahead, Susan.

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<v Speaker 9>Hey, Dan, first of all, you need to study your

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<v Speaker 9>history a little bit more, because the Nazis absolutely studied

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<v Speaker 9>American history and our Jim Crow laws, and in fact,

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<v Speaker 9>they based several of their early laws uh that demonized

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<v Speaker 9>Jews on this, on those Jim Crow laws.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's defend me saws on that, Susan, so I

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<v Speaker 2>can so I can become intelligent written on it? No,

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<v Speaker 2>what's give me? Give me one source so I could

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<v Speaker 2>go read that book and I can become more intelligent.

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<v Speaker 9>I will, uh, off the top of my head. I

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<v Speaker 9>don't know the name of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Good enough, Okay, what's next?

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<v Speaker 9>God, What's what's next?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's fine. Yeah, that's all I'm asking because I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know who the books are written by. They have

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<v Speaker 2>been written by some crackpot. I don't know that that Hitler. Hitler. Look,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to debate whether or we're Hitler learning

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<v Speaker 2>God what else you got?

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<v Speaker 9>But it's pretty damn it is pretty well established that

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<v Speaker 9>he paid a lot of attention to.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm asking you for one book and you don't have

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<v Speaker 2>enough the top of your head. Let's move on.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm sorry, I don't have it off the top of

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<v Speaker 9>my head. Okay, I mean I can I can cite

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<v Speaker 9>you mind Colf.

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<v Speaker 2>You've read mine Calf, I'm sure was there much reference

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<v Speaker 2>in mine? Colves to Jim crow Loss. Go ahead, Susan,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to debate something that's going to take

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<v Speaker 2>us off track.

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<v Speaker 3>Here.

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<v Speaker 2>What I'm talking about, how can we how can we

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<v Speaker 2>get back on track? Go ahead?

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<v Speaker 9>Well, I mean, as far as I'm concerned, Trump is

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<v Speaker 9>reaping what he's sewing.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm stunned that you would say that. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>stunned that you would say that.

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<v Speaker 9>Right, Well, look all the irresponsible talk, and it's not

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<v Speaker 9>just name calling.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, give me one thing that Trump has said.

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<v Speaker 2>Give me one thing that Trump has said that deserves

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<v Speaker 2>someone to put a bullet in him.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm not saying he deserves have able.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you're saying he's reaping what he sews. Come on,

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<v Speaker 2>he can.

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<v Speaker 9>I am saying that he activates his irresponsible rhetoric, activates

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<v Speaker 9>nutjobs on all sides.

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<v Speaker 2>Give me, give me one thing that he said. Did

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<v Speaker 2>you think would give me It's one thing. They all

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<v Speaker 2>activate nutjobs. Okay, they all activate nutjobs. But give me

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<v Speaker 2>one thing that he said that you think puts them

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<v Speaker 2>into in the in you know, in the cross heirs,

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<v Speaker 2>puts them legitimately in the crosshairs.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm not saying that, Dan. What I'm saying is that.

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<v Speaker 2>You said he reaps what he sows, right, right, So what.

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<v Speaker 9>He reads yesterday about the people in Springfield, Ohio, what

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<v Speaker 9>he read leaving death threats? You know, schools are having

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<v Speaker 9>to be dismissed because there's bomb threats, because you know,

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<v Speaker 9>the former president of the United States said something utterly ridiculous,

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<v Speaker 9>you know, in front of sixty seven million people.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think it was utterly ridiculous. I think it

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<v Speaker 2>was shameful. Okay, but I don't think that and puts

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<v Speaker 2>it in the cross heirs dangers.

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<v Speaker 9>You don't think there are there are now Haitian immigrants

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<v Speaker 9>whose lives are in danger. What about the election workers

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<v Speaker 9>in Georgia, the two women who won their suit against

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<v Speaker 9>Rudy Giuliani, who you know, had you know, death threats

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<v Speaker 9>because Trump put it out there on social media, put

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<v Speaker 9>those names out there. I mean, he is just he

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<v Speaker 9>has put so many other things.

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<v Speaker 2>So all of this, all of this then then puts

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<v Speaker 2>him in the crosshairs. Yes, okay, So so therefore you agree.

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<v Speaker 3>That they were responsible, that.

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<v Speaker 2>He reaps what he shows what he shows, Therefore it's

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<v Speaker 2>okay to put him in the crosshairs, is what you're

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<v Speaker 2>saying to me.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm not no, I'm well you just said, yes, come

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<v Speaker 9>on saying that. I'm not saying that. I'm just saying

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<v Speaker 9>that it's the consequence of his own What are.

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<v Speaker 2>You saying, then, Susan, what are you saying? You said?

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<v Speaker 2>First of all, you said, he reaps what he solves.

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<v Speaker 2>You talk to me about the language that he used

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<v Speaker 2>about the pole workers, the language that he used about

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<v Speaker 2>the Haitians, which I think was disgraceful. Okay, And then

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<v Speaker 2>I said to.

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<v Speaker 9>You that the environment of heap of just insanity. You know,

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<v Speaker 9>it's not just lack of civility, it's complete, you know, chaos.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me ask you should have Bobby Kennedy Jr. Been

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<v Speaker 2>given Secret Service protection by the Biden Ministry, by the

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<v Speaker 2>Biden Harris administration.

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<v Speaker 9>I don't know the particulars about how those decisions are made,

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<v Speaker 9>but it seems to feel like you probably should have.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, probably probably. You know you know the history. You

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<v Speaker 2>know the history of the Kennedy family better than anybody, Susan.

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<v Speaker 2>I got to get on more Indian before the break,

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<v Speaker 2>so let me let you run. Okay, as always, appreciate

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<v Speaker 2>you to the book. Absolutely, I'd love to see who

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<v Speaker 2>the author is. You know, maybe it's a legitimate offer.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I haven't read. I read a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of stuff I haven't read that way to come hold on,

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<v Speaker 2>Rob will give you my direct email. Rob gives Susan

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<v Speaker 2>my direct email. Next up is Jim in Kansas City.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you you, Susan. Don't hang up Jim in Kansas City.

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<v Speaker 2>Go go ahead, Jim. How are you tonight? Well, if

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<v Speaker 2>we've lost Jim in Kansas City, we'll put Jim on hold.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe get him in the next hour. Let me go

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<v Speaker 2>next to David san Antonio. Dave, I'll caution you, we're

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<v Speaker 2>getting close to the end of the hour. Go ahead, buddy, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>we lost him, so we're gonna go to We're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>go to Patrick and Charlestown. Patrick, this is your lucky day.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't have to hold another one.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh.

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<v Speaker 3>They just keep getting better. Hey, listen, I got two things.

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<v Speaker 3>First off, let's let's just think about the psy ops

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<v Speaker 3>that this entire thing is by focusing on the dogs

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<v Speaker 3>and the cats. The fact of the matter is the

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<v Speaker 3>story is democratic policy destroying the lives of mostly poor

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<v Speaker 3>Americans who have no voice. That's the story.

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<v Speaker 2>Which which Donald Trump should have whiched. Donald should have

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<v Speaker 2>articulated Patrick, I agree with you. I agree with you

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<v Speaker 2>that that city has been beset by I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>about twenty thousand, a city of fifty thousand people, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>not half as big as Newton. Just to put it

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<v Speaker 2>in some.

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<v Speaker 3>Perspective, Yeah, it's funny, but Newton never seems to get

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<v Speaker 3>these immigrants though, and they never.

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<v Speaker 2>Why do you think I mentioned new democratic policies?

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<v Speaker 3>They never seem to.

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<v Speaker 2>Be Patrick, Patrick, why do you think I mentioned Newton?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm on your side, buddy.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen. The second thing is, Dan, you are one of

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<v Speaker 3>the most courageous reporters in Boston history who risk your

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<v Speaker 3>life for years investigating corruption, Irish mob, Italian mob. Many

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<v Speaker 3>people could have taken you out, and you had the guts,

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<v Speaker 3>no matter what, to risk your life to get the

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<v Speaker 3>truth out there. Now let me and you're also a

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<v Speaker 3>great lawyer, so let me ask you this. When you

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<v Speaker 3>investigate a facts facts, do you do due diligence? Yes, sir,

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<v Speaker 3>And could you describe what looking into a claim might

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<v Speaker 3>look like in terms of someone makes a claim, even

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<v Speaker 3>if you believe it's outrageous, do you just claim that

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<v Speaker 3>it's out Not you, Dan, But is it appropriate to

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<v Speaker 3>just say affirmatively a claim is outrageous without investigating it first?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think that there was if you're talking about

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<v Speaker 2>Haitians eating dogs and cats. Where we started in Springfield, Ohio,

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<v Speaker 2>the mayor out there, the police chief, as a matter

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<v Speaker 2>of fact, the Republican governor said that's just not true. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>as we said before at the start of the conversation,

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<v Speaker 2>that city has absorbed about twenty thousand legitimate immigrants who

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<v Speaker 2>came here by the at the request of the Biden administration,

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<v Speaker 2>So that's what he should have focused on.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think you've exhausted all of your potential sources

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<v Speaker 3>of information, not d end but the national media. Do

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<v Speaker 3>you think some.

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<v Speaker 2>People come forward, Have some people come forward, Have some

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<v Speaker 2>people come forward, Bring five or six or ten people

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<v Speaker 2>come forward and say, my dog was stolen and I

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<v Speaker 2>saw that. You know what I'm saying, it's it's not true.

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<v Speaker 3>This plentiful it's available, Dan, there's a there's a police

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<v Speaker 3>report and it's recorded on August twenty sixth, talking about

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<v Speaker 3>four du four geese being taken. You can listen to

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<v Speaker 3>it and on Twitter.

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<v Speaker 2>I know I've seen that report, but the the geese

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<v Speaker 2>were not a dog or a cat. Okay, look Patrick,

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<v Speaker 2>I got a run. Thank you for your thank you

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<v Speaker 2>for your kind words, and I'm just I'm up against it.

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<v Speaker 2>You read the clock as well as I do. We

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<v Speaker 2>will continue our conversation, not after the news, but we'll

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<v Speaker 2>continue our conversation I'm sure in the next few weeks,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm next time. Hopefully i'll get you before we

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<v Speaker 2>get you know, I'll try not to take it before

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<v Speaker 2>a newscast. Okay, I gotta run. Thanks Patrick, we'll take

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<v Speaker 2>a break. If you'd like to join the conversation, you

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<v Speaker 2>have the numbers, Bring it on.