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<v Speaker 1>Hello everyone, Welcome back to a new episode of the

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<v Speaker 1>Poker Go Podcast. My name is Donnie Peters. His name

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<v Speaker 1>is Timothy Duckworth. We are done with the twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five PGT season, even though it is twenty twenty six

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<v Speaker 1>January thirteenth, to be exact, six fifty seven pm. Chad

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<v Speaker 1>eve Sledge did the damn thing. He came out on

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<v Speaker 1>top of the PGT Million Dollar Championship, taking home five

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<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand dollars. A stacked event, a stacked final table.

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<v Speaker 1>Eve Sledge played well, of course, as he generally always does,

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter the variant. This one happened to be nolamit HoldEm.

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<v Speaker 1>But Eve Sledge one of the best in the world,

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<v Speaker 1>and he also caught some pretty pretty damn good cards.

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<v Speaker 1>I think every time I looked, he had pocket jacks.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, if you just get dealt pocket jacks

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<v Speaker 1>every single hand, you're likely going to end up in

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<v Speaker 1>the winner circle, you know, especially when you combine it

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<v Speaker 1>with the skill and the experience that eve Sledge has.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's going to be the gist of this episode,

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<v Speaker 1>or the large portion of this episode talking about that

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<v Speaker 1>PGT Championship event. I guess preview twenty twenty six. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>it's probably going to be here before we know it

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<v Speaker 1>a couple weeks away, but you know how these things

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<v Speaker 1>always speak up on us. Of course, if you guys

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<v Speaker 1>did miss the event, and if you want to avoid

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<v Speaker 1>some spoilers, I mean sorry, I already told you who won.

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<v Speaker 1>But also turn the podcast off and then go over

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<v Speaker 1>to pokergot dot com find the live stream of not

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<v Speaker 1>only the Final Table which took place today, but day

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<v Speaker 1>one coverage as well. Again for this season ending championship event.

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<v Speaker 1>Big takeaways. I guess what do you got for me?

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<v Speaker 1>What are your thoughts? What's rolling off the brain? What's

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<v Speaker 1>kicking around in there? You look entirely preoccupied right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish I could I could show you guys how

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<v Speaker 1>preoccupied Tim looks when we get on this goddamn podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>It is unbelievable. He's doing nineteen other things.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's a I'm just just trying to tackle

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<v Speaker 2>everything as I can.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, I know there is a time and a place

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<v Speaker 1>right now is the podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay. It was a good final table, And when I

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<v Speaker 3>say good, I mean we.

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<v Speaker 2>Had a wide variety of players and how they qualified.

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<v Speaker 3>Siding with Chad.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously he won the Super High Rollerball mix you know

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<v Speaker 2>that was the uh you know that, plus the mixame series,

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<v Speaker 2>possible series. That's he's basically his main way getting in.

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<v Speaker 2>We had Lucky Chewy, pthora of cashes all season, plays

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<v Speaker 2>PLO plays No Limit, had the eighteen cash Buddy now nineteen.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess right, No, this doesn't cut us, it does.

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<v Speaker 2>Second place finished to Jason Kern WSP fifty Hirolla. He

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<v Speaker 2>also won the opening event of the season PGT Kickoff

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<v Speaker 2>nearly one, the final event that.

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<v Speaker 1>Would little have been crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Michael Wang always plays our PLO events, plays most of

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<v Speaker 2>our No Limit Holono events. He won the ten k

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<v Speaker 2>Plow Championship. That's how he got in. Daniel m'grano a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of here, you're kind of last few hlast

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<v Speaker 2>few months, but you're.

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of lying. You lied about Chatty said, you just

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<v Speaker 1>lied about Michael Wang.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you mean?

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<v Speaker 1>You said this is how they got in. That's not

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<v Speaker 1>how they got I'm just saying, look, we get in

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<v Speaker 1>by winning super Hills games. That has tried to earn

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<v Speaker 1>points to qualify on the leaderboard. Now the bulk of

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<v Speaker 1>their points keeping, that's what I'm trying to get again.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to say I'm here to preoccupied.

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<v Speaker 2>Tim Duckworth over here, I'm looking at the results right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Daniel mgrano a little quiet last few months, but aed

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<v Speaker 2>his's two victories earlier in the year. Obviously a hell

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<v Speaker 2>of a lot of points of the WSP. We look

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<v Speaker 2>at John ord AND's Super High roller Ball PLO winner,

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<v Speaker 2>That's how he was kind of there. We've got Eric

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<v Speaker 2>Blair massive start of the year, shoutout massive. He had

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<v Speaker 2>the was a five consecutive cashes at the US Poker Open.

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<v Speaker 2>He had his multiple victories all front loaded pre World

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<v Speaker 2>Series for Eric Blair and then Aaron Cooper Dream Seat winner.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously he's still very experienced player. He has final table

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<v Speaker 2>WBT event he has, He's a regular in RPGT mixed

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<v Speaker 2>game series. He was the winner of an event down

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<v Speaker 2>in WSP Paradise which also carried a dream See So

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<v Speaker 2>a nice mix of players at this final table, some

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<v Speaker 2>p low specialist, no limits specialist, mixed game specialists, the

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<v Speaker 2>dream See winner.

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<v Speaker 3>That was great.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's the first kind of impression, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>got from the final table. We also had some close

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<v Speaker 2>calls coming. You know, as we approached that final seven

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<v Speaker 2>that came back today, obviously previous PGT player of the yes,

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<v Speaker 2>Steven Chidwick.

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<v Speaker 3>Bout out in eighth place. Last night.

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<v Speaker 2>We also had dream See winner Ed Miller, who qualified

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<v Speaker 2>you know via Rungo. They do a dream scene invitation

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<v Speaker 2>at the end of their season. All the ring winners

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<v Speaker 2>get to play for that winner represents run Good. And

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<v Speaker 2>then we obviously had the most recently crowned PGT player,

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<v Speaker 2>the Alex Foxen adding thirteenth and then the PGT Last

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<v Speaker 2>Chance dreamc winner odb Baker fourteenth place. So, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just those last two tables a good wide variety of

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<v Speaker 2>players and that all led to pretty you know, interesting

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<v Speaker 2>mix of players at that final table.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I mean, this was a really great event. It

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<v Speaker 1>was by far our best PGT Championship ever, at least

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<v Speaker 1>in my opinion. I really liked everything that came out

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<v Speaker 1>of it, you know, my resulting thoughts and feelings. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel really good about where this event is. If

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<v Speaker 1>I were to equate it to something more mainstream, I

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<v Speaker 1>would say this is Poker's version of the FedEx Cup.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how I describe it. And if you know, what

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<v Speaker 1>the FedEx Cup is from golf. You need to familiar

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<v Speaker 1>size yourself with it, sir, then this this is poker's

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<v Speaker 1>version of that. So yeah, I think we're moving things

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<v Speaker 1>along quite nicely in terms of the PGT Championship and

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<v Speaker 1>the PGT brand, and I'm excited to kick things off

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<v Speaker 1>with the twenty twenty sixth season and see where we

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<v Speaker 1>can go from here. Chad E. S Ledge one of

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<v Speaker 1>the absolute best, certainly one of the best all around

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<v Speaker 1>players in the world. I'm sure you could make the

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<v Speaker 1>case for the argument that he is the best all

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<v Speaker 1>around player in the world. You know, He's one of

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<v Speaker 1>those guys where maybe if he spent more time traveling

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<v Speaker 1>the tournament circuit, playing some some lower buying type of stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>then then he would start racking up many more titles

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<v Speaker 1>than he already has.

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<v Speaker 3>He doesn't need to worry about those small stakes.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I know all the stuff, trust me, I understand, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>And in that turn, That's what I was going to

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<v Speaker 1>get into next, is like, you know, if he were

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<v Speaker 1>someone who wanted to start making the leap to Triton

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<v Speaker 1>or stuff like that, you know, then he could also

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<v Speaker 1>be crushing there. You know, as it pertains to our events.

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<v Speaker 1>Our events are higher stakes than some of the smaller

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that I mentioned, right, But he really only comes

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<v Speaker 1>out to our stuff for mixed games, you know. But

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<v Speaker 1>he's a guy who if let's say he put in

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<v Speaker 1>a whole volume on the PGT, or a whole season's

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<v Speaker 1>volume on the PGT, then he would be absolutely crushing, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's I know, he said in his post

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<v Speaker 1>win interview with Jeff that he was kind of wondering

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<v Speaker 1>if he was a little bit washed up, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I know this is a little tongue in cheek for him,

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<v Speaker 1>but a little bit washed up in terms of like

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<v Speaker 1>where his no limit game is specifically, especially compared to

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<v Speaker 1>some of these crushers that are in the field that

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<v Speaker 1>he had a battle with in this event. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>but Chad could certainly hold his own, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't need to knock himself or his game in

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<v Speaker 1>any way, shape or form. He is extremely capable, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's also one of those players who's extremely sharp and

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<v Speaker 1>can figure things out on the fly. So if there

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<v Speaker 1>are players that are giving him a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a tougher go of things as the tournament is playing,

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<v Speaker 1>he's somebody who's certainly going to adjust and figure things

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<v Speaker 1>out as they go.

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<v Speaker 3>So can I go through so much chance results real quick?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, got WSP circuit ring back in twenty thirteen, long

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<v Speaker 2>time ago twenty twenty one, won twenty five k Hyroller

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<v Speaker 2>down in Seminole. That's kind of his big kind of

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<v Speaker 2>market result, I would say. Then that led him too,

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<v Speaker 2>just a run of crushing WPT Venetian for nine hundred K.

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<v Speaker 2>Then he went on to win the twenty five KWSP

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<v Speaker 2>No Limit hold him for one point four million. Then

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<v Speaker 2>he won five Diamond for another million. Then he won

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<v Speaker 2>the Dealer's Choice bracelet on one hundred and thirty K.

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<v Speaker 2>Then he won the next Dealer's Choice bracelet about four

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<v Speaker 2>days later for three hundred K. Yeah, that was a

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<v Speaker 2>crazy little a week of the Yeah, and then did

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<v Speaker 2>pretty much nothing for the rest of the series. Then

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<v Speaker 2>he won the hundred k Super Hiroller Bowl in twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five, and then he added the twenty five k

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<v Speaker 2>horse Hyroller at the World Series last year for eight

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and eighty K. And then you add this here,

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<v Speaker 2>so his wins, you know, obviously he got the circuit

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<v Speaker 2>ring and some other little small suppit all these wins

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<v Speaker 2>are just in you know, massive WPT titles, WSP bracelets,

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<v Speaker 2>so twenty five K high rollers or one hundred K

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<v Speaker 2>high rollers, just like you know, an absolute basic. The

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<v Speaker 2>only thing kind of missing from this is you know,

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<v Speaker 2>some pl O wins. So maybe that's what he needs.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe he's he's good with no limit, he's good with max.

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<v Speaker 2>He needs to get into PLO streets.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean listen again, if he put in as

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<v Speaker 1>much tournament volume as you see some of these other

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<v Speaker 1>guys put in, you know, chat Eve Sledge would be

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<v Speaker 1>up there with the Koons, the Chidwicks, et cetera. As

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<v Speaker 1>far as I'm concerned, a very deserving winner in the

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<v Speaker 1>PGT championship events. You know, he caught big hands when

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<v Speaker 1>he needed to, but but played really well down the

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<v Speaker 1>stretch for sure, And it really was you know, Chett

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<v Speaker 1>Eve Sledge's final table. I'll say, maybe not his entire tournaments,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because the at least the second half of

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<v Speaker 1>Day one really did belong to first Andrew Lucky Chewie Lichtenberger,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it turned towards Michael Wang and those two

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<v Speaker 1>players came in one two. Wang was first, Chew he

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<v Speaker 1>was second, entering the final table. But then uh, Eve Sledge,

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<v Speaker 1>I think he took both of them out at the Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well he obviously beat Chewy heads up, and then he

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<v Speaker 1>took out Wang. He did get a little lucky against Wang.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, but it wasn't like a crazy

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<v Speaker 1>Wang flopped top two pair on ten nine to eight flop.

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<v Speaker 1>Usledge had kings and the river was an eight to

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<v Speaker 1>counterfeit the two pair of Wang. What were the payouts

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<v Speaker 1>in this thing?

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<v Speaker 2>Chad took home half a million dollars, Lucky Chewy two

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<v Speaker 2>hundred k, Michael Wang one hundred and twenty k, Daniel

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<v Speaker 2>eighty thousand, Aaron Cooper and sixty k John Reordan forty thousand.

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<v Speaker 2>Very uh, very polarizing, payous, very top heavy good. There

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<v Speaker 2>should be a couple of reasons. We've been told players

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<v Speaker 2>won a big first price. Second of all, it's good

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<v Speaker 2>marketing number. Half a million dollars. It's not obviously conventional

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<v Speaker 3>But look, it's a free roll.

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<v Speaker 2>We can do whatever we want, and hey, if they

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't think these guys even discussed that they were

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean they might have talked to deal. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I mean, you never know what these guys

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<v Speaker 1>do on those those short you know, two three five

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<v Speaker 1>to necessarily chop, you know, and saying with a lucky chewi,

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<v Speaker 1>end of the day it is a free role. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>that way. And yeah, these guys went forward and good

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<v Speaker 1>PGT season like coming out of it all? I know

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<v Speaker 1>it's obviously just ended, but you know you happy with it.

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<v Speaker 1>You think we got things to improve upon. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>We can always improve, just figure out kind of exactly

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<v Speaker 2>where I think for us, we're gonna immediately look at

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<v Speaker 2>introducing hands per level for final tables. I'm not really

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<v Speaker 2>sure what that number is. We can obviously try and

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<v Speaker 2>gonna kind of mole over. I think we may have

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<v Speaker 2>touched on a last episode. But you know, we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to make some you know, adjustments next year. But you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I thought twenty twenty five was great. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>we introduce a wide variety of new things. We had

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<v Speaker 2>the Showcase of Poke Masters. That's our first multi flight,

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<v Speaker 2>no limit hold them event here in the studio. That

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<v Speaker 2>was a success, Introducing new trophies pokem Masters, Purple Jacket

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<v Speaker 2>Trophy was the best trophy of the year. Added a

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<v Speaker 2>new series, We added the Bounty Blitz. We tried something there,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe fell a bit short. We added the the PGT

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<v Speaker 2>Venetian in Las Vegas Classic. That was a pretty good

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<v Speaker 2>event too. But yeah, I think we learned a few things.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to adapt. We're going to make some alterations

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<v Speaker 2>for twenty twenty six and looking forward to what else

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<v Speaker 2>we can cook up. What can we do with this

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<v Speaker 2>new I always like to do, I mean new every season.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh great, can't we can't wait for this? Nonsense?

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, like you know, Like what I mean is like

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<v Speaker 2>we've since the start, we've either added an event or

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<v Speaker 2>added a series. We've either you know, we headed to

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<v Speaker 2>Houston for the Champions Club. So what's what's next? What's new?

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<v Speaker 1>You know?

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<v Speaker 3>Someways I don't know what that is. I don't really

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying I'm just looking forward to, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>widening the PGT net and then you know, what adjustments

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<v Speaker 2>can we make? How do we make this to it

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<v Speaker 2>a little differently? You know, we're going to tweak the

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<v Speaker 2>points system a little bit. We're going to make add decimals, nods.

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<v Speaker 1>Why why are we rounding?

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<v Speaker 3>It's fine? Rounding is fine, No, it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>It's ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 3>Ridiculous is a strong strong word, sir.

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<v Speaker 1>It's ridiculous. I'm here to tell you when you're ridiculous,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, what I want to do is, you know, for

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<v Speaker 2>most people that are aware anything tenthou dollar buying or

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<v Speaker 2>under is basically one to one. I would like to

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<v Speaker 2>And when I'm talking about that five K buyings, three

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<v Speaker 2>K buyings, we've we've done at Venetian and we've done

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<v Speaker 2>at Champions Club and we're bringing here to the studio

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm not going to rule it out, but is

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<v Speaker 2>there a world for two thousand dollars buyons in here

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<v Speaker 2>one thousand dollars minds, I don't know, but we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to change the points to give those a bit more value,

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<v Speaker 2>really incentivize people to, you know, play down. But also

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<v Speaker 2>if you're a high volume player at those stakes, we'll

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<v Speaker 2>call them low stakes. You know, for the for the PGT,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a bit more on there for you, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>for the Jeremy Becker is out there, the Francis Anderson's,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a bit, there's some more points that they can

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<v Speaker 2>pick up, so that you know, these the months, the

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<v Speaker 2>points that you see at the World Series, in the

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five k's and fifty ks and one hundred ks,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, there's a bit, there's a bit there's a

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<v Speaker 2>way to soften, soften the blow a little bit in

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<v Speaker 2>some other events.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm going to make that change.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like this three K price point is just

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<v Speaker 2>just really good.

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<v Speaker 3>Here in Vegas.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, I've floated the idea to players about

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<v Speaker 2>doing a three K series six three ks. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>back to back to back. They're like, yes, one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>percent love that. We definitely can feel the studio doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>So look, well the experiment do some other stuff, but

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<v Speaker 2>we're also going to try and make things better. Like

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<v Speaker 2>I said, his hands per level at the final table,

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<v Speaker 2>the best, the best thing to do. I'm indifferent to it,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, I'm open to I'm opening to improving

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<v Speaker 2>anything that you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, anyone wants.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you made it aware to me that you

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<v Speaker 2>know Pads you know, had an Instagram sorry saying he

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<v Speaker 2>has a few suggestions for us. Reached out to him

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<v Speaker 2>on Instagram said give him to me. I'm open to listening.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't heard back yet, but you know, we had

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<v Speaker 2>a good conversation with Lucky Chiwy before he exited the

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<v Speaker 2>studio and he shared his thoughts on a lot of things.

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<v Speaker 2>So look, we're always open to hearing from everyone, and

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<v Speaker 2>we just want to make the tour as best as

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<v Speaker 2>we can for these guys, as you know, at the

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<v Speaker 2>end of the day, it's their money.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah, I mean listen, I'm all for listening to

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<v Speaker 1>the players to an extent. You know, I know there

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<v Speaker 1>are oftentimes suggestions that I don't know. Maybe they don't

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<v Speaker 1>fully think everything through. But I also think that that

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<v Speaker 1>goes both ways. You know, maybe we try and do

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<v Speaker 1>something that it's like, oh, well, you guys aren't fully

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<v Speaker 1>thinking something through, So you know, I get it. Definitely

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<v Speaker 1>try and have the most symbiotic relationship as we can

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<v Speaker 1>with the players, which is a good thing. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>now been five seasons of the PGT. First season was

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty one. You had Rock Ostizza winning the PGT

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<v Speaker 1>Championship event that year. I believe it was a fifty

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<v Speaker 1>k buy in for that one. Then we had Jason Kuhn,

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<v Speaker 1>then we had Daniel Smilkovich, and then we had Jeremy

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<v Speaker 1>Osmas last year, and then of course this year, as

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<v Speaker 1>we already talked about, Chad Evesledge. So I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>five seasons feels like a nice little checkpoint to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of look at things as a whole. I mean, what

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<v Speaker 1>are your do you have any thoughts on I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>the five year span of the tour. Do you feel

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<v Speaker 1>like we're ahead of where we were planning to be,

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<v Speaker 1>behind where we're planning to be. I mean, I'll flat

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<v Speaker 1>i'd say it. I know some of us didn't think

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<v Speaker 1>this thing will last more than two years, so we're

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<v Speaker 1>not moving into season six, so you know, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like it's caught on very well. Listen, I've

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<v Speaker 1>said this before, I'll say it again, but I know

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<v Speaker 1>we're not you know, setting insane records here with with turnouts.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we're not. It's not thousand player fields stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like that. But it's just a different type of tour

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<v Speaker 1>of poker tournament, you know, focusing on higher buy ins,

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<v Speaker 1>better more skilled players, you know, try and get you know,

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<v Speaker 1>some of the best players in the world to come

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<v Speaker 1>out here to the studio and elsewhere when we go

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<v Speaker 1>to other properties, but mainly here at the studio and

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<v Speaker 1>try and get them to compete in a season long quest.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we always hear about it, and we've heard

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<v Speaker 1>about it for many, many years, you know, since the

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<v Speaker 1>Dawn of poker. You know, you know, volume, volume, volume,

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<v Speaker 1>You're never going to realize anything unless you put in

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<v Speaker 1>the volume. So and I know sample size still isn't

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<v Speaker 1>probably what you need it to be to realize like

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<v Speaker 1>true results. But extending something over an entire season that

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<v Speaker 1>lasts a whole year, I think it's probably the closest

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to get, yeah, you know, to realizing that.

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<v Speaker 1>So in that way, you know, I like it and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a sucker for that sort of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I think the most obvious thing we've seen

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<v Speaker 2>is the desire and the kind of yearning to get

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<v Speaker 2>into the championship. You know, it's not like it's and

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<v Speaker 2>it's not like an a media write back, right, there's

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<v Speaker 2>some you know, I guess twenty k in equity or

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<v Speaker 2>EV for these guys. It's a very top heavy tournament,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's very obvious that these guys really want to

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<v Speaker 2>be part of the championship. And you see that a

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<v Speaker 2>PGT lost chance, you see the sweats, you see the

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, they understand everything that goes into just

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<v Speaker 2>qualifying and like it's something they want to be, something

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<v Speaker 2>they want to be part of. You know, that's probably

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<v Speaker 2>the best thing. And like, you know, it started with

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<v Speaker 2>twenty one players and it was like a whatever kind

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<v Speaker 2>of event. We didn't get many showing up. And then

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we expanded, we had the dream seats and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we made rule changes this year to make

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<v Speaker 2>sure we hit the full field, which we did all

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<v Speaker 2>fifty four players and there's definitely, Like I think when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to poker, you have the leaderboards, they care

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<v Speaker 2>about that, they care about the chase, the fight, the

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<v Speaker 2>prizes or the money whatever's on offer. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>this year really really, it was really showed when it

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<v Speaker 2>came to that BGT Last Chance. So I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>something we kind of maybe didn't expect and that's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of kept this tour ticking into like what's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be the sixth season?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have any predictions on next season? I know

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't necessarily plan for, yes, but any thoughts for

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<v Speaker 1>what we might see maybe maybe like, are there any

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<v Speaker 1>players who play the higher volume of PGT events this

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<v Speaker 1>last season that you think will continue? Are there any

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<v Speaker 1>players that you think will scale back? Obviously there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of players that have told us they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>scale back. With the whole tax situation, which is still

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<v Speaker 1>you know, seems like it's very much up in the air,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, I don't necessarily know. I'm reading something

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<v Speaker 1>on social media right now speaking of being preoccupied, but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. It doesn't seem like it's good for

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<v Speaker 1>the tax thing.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, that look, the tax thing is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be the biggest factor in the year, and when we

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<v Speaker 2>are wait here next year, you know, I think we'll

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<v Speaker 2>be discussing the tour with that in mind. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe come much it doesn't matter, or maybe it's really

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<v Speaker 2>messes everything up and everything kind of shrinks. So it's

419
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<v Speaker 2>hard to really speak on terms of volume for players,

420
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<v Speaker 2>you know, even the ones we talked to, we don't

421
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<v Speaker 2>really know when I you know, when it comes push

422
00:21:01.839 --> 00:21:04.839
<v Speaker 2>to shove, you know, pigt kickoff or a cup if

423
00:21:04.880 --> 00:21:06.759
<v Speaker 2>they'll be here. So, like I said, we're just going

424
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<v Speaker 2>to make those adjustments, and what I think is going

425
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<v Speaker 2>to happen is way you know, probably starting in the

426
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<v Speaker 2>back half of the year, you know, post World Series

427
00:21:16.079 --> 00:21:18.000
<v Speaker 2>or even during World Series, I think we will start

428
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<v Speaker 2>doing a few different things to try and get new

429
00:21:21.119 --> 00:21:23.559
<v Speaker 2>people in here, you know, whether it's a series of

430
00:21:23.640 --> 00:21:25.960
<v Speaker 2>three ks or whether we can figure out some kind

431
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<v Speaker 2>of cool two K buying, one K buying multi flight

432
00:21:29.799 --> 00:21:32.359
<v Speaker 2>event that we can fit in the space, because that's

433
00:21:32.359 --> 00:21:34.920
<v Speaker 2>always going to be our issue. So just trying to

434
00:21:35.000 --> 00:21:38.640
<v Speaker 2>get new blood in the studio is always a big thing,

435
00:21:39.480 --> 00:21:42.720
<v Speaker 2>and even with our majors, like just trying to get

436
00:21:42.759 --> 00:21:45.319
<v Speaker 2>a few more satellites. Trying to get create that value

437
00:21:45.359 --> 00:21:50.039
<v Speaker 2>for the for the regulars, is important for the for

438
00:21:50.240 --> 00:21:53.920
<v Speaker 2>our players ecosystem. But yeah, it's really hard to speak

439
00:21:54.000 --> 00:21:57.359
<v Speaker 2>of this year just because of the tax thing. Like

440
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<v Speaker 2>if that wasn't a part of it, I would say

441
00:22:00.319 --> 00:22:02.839
<v Speaker 2>we would continue to grow, we would be having more events,

442
00:22:02.920 --> 00:22:05.480
<v Speaker 2>we would be having more new people, would be having

443
00:22:05.519 --> 00:22:08.680
<v Speaker 2>more unique players, because I think the PGT is slowly

444
00:22:08.960 --> 00:22:12.079
<v Speaker 2>just it's it's it's a slow, it's slow process, but

445
00:22:12.160 --> 00:22:16.119
<v Speaker 2>we're slowly gaining, you know, that ground to where we

446
00:22:16.279 --> 00:22:18.680
<v Speaker 2>can compete with you know, at a different level, but

447
00:22:18.799 --> 00:22:21.799
<v Speaker 2>compete with WSPWBT or TRENT. It's never going to be

448
00:22:21.880 --> 00:22:24.200
<v Speaker 2>any of those, but we definitely have a place here

449
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<v Speaker 2>in Vegas, a constant, you know, to or throughout the

450
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<v Speaker 2>whole year, you know, with some you know, little variations

451
00:22:32.160 --> 00:22:36.400
<v Speaker 2>at other venues. But yeah, it's just it's just too

452
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<v Speaker 2>hard to say what's going to happen in twenty twenty

453
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<v Speaker 2>sixth and being honest.

454
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<v Speaker 1>Well it sounds to me like, I mean, he was

455
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<v Speaker 1>here for two and a half days, Daniel Legrand, who

456
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<v Speaker 1>might not put in a full schedule in twenty twenty

457
00:22:50.119 --> 00:22:52.839
<v Speaker 1>six I don't know. He seems so much more interested.

458
00:22:52.559 --> 00:22:56.440
<v Speaker 2>In golf, is my read he seems, I mean half

459
00:22:56.519 --> 00:22:58.000
<v Speaker 2>the time he was playing today at the final table,

460
00:22:58.039 --> 00:23:00.920
<v Speaker 2>we see him practicing his chip shot or something that

461
00:23:01.000 --> 00:23:06.119
<v Speaker 2>I know. So, yeah, look, does Daniel need to play poker? No?

462
00:23:07.000 --> 00:23:08.759
<v Speaker 3>Does he need the money? I don't know.

463
00:23:08.799 --> 00:23:11.279
<v Speaker 2>I can't speak for his money, but probably not. Come on,

464
00:23:11.519 --> 00:23:13.559
<v Speaker 2>does he doesn't need I don't know. I'm not going

465
00:23:13.599 --> 00:23:15.400
<v Speaker 2>to speak on part of his finances. He might have

466
00:23:15.480 --> 00:23:17.279
<v Speaker 2>made some bad investments in something.

467
00:23:17.359 --> 00:23:17.720
<v Speaker 3>Who knows.

468
00:23:18.640 --> 00:23:25.279
<v Speaker 2>Does he need to stamp his legacy a little harder?

469
00:23:26.400 --> 00:23:29.000
<v Speaker 2>I would say that since he won that bracelet in

470
00:23:29.039 --> 00:23:31.480
<v Speaker 2>the fifty k, that's a pretty that was a pretty

471
00:23:31.519 --> 00:23:34.000
<v Speaker 2>big stamp to his legacy. So he may be like,

472
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<v Speaker 2>you know what, I don't need to be on the

473
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<v Speaker 2>top of the old time money list. I don't need

474
00:23:37.359 --> 00:23:40.279
<v Speaker 2>to hit one hundred million bracelets are good. I'll grind bracest.

475
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<v Speaker 1>You know.

476
00:23:40.880 --> 00:23:43.400
<v Speaker 2>I spoke with him a little bit today and as

477
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<v Speaker 2>we were walking in to the studio and sounds like,

478
00:23:46.519 --> 00:23:50.839
<v Speaker 2>you know, he it's very much I'm goal focused. We'll

479
00:23:50.920 --> 00:23:53.559
<v Speaker 2>see what my playing schedule is like, you know, outside

480
00:23:53.599 --> 00:23:55.839
<v Speaker 2>of that, and even at the World Series and for

481
00:23:56.000 --> 00:23:58.119
<v Speaker 2>him to say I'm not going to play every day,

482
00:23:58.359 --> 00:23:59.359
<v Speaker 2>it's a little hard to believe.

483
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<v Speaker 3>And we'll sell with see if it happens.

484
00:24:00.880 --> 00:24:03.640
<v Speaker 2>But you know, there's also the personal side, got the

485
00:24:03.680 --> 00:24:06.759
<v Speaker 2>wife at home, trying to have some kiddies, you know,

486
00:24:07.079 --> 00:24:09.920
<v Speaker 2>like where does that go? You know, if they do

487
00:24:10.119 --> 00:24:13.119
<v Speaker 2>end up having a child, you know, that's obviously going

488
00:24:13.200 --> 00:24:15.240
<v Speaker 2>to take you know, we know, we know how it

489
00:24:15.400 --> 00:24:18.319
<v Speaker 2>is a photographer. Antonio is learning how it is. Takes

490
00:24:18.319 --> 00:24:20.559
<v Speaker 2>a lot of time out of your regular life. So

491
00:24:21.519 --> 00:24:23.799
<v Speaker 2>I think he I wouldn't be surprised if he scales

492
00:24:23.839 --> 00:24:24.559
<v Speaker 2>it back everywhere.

493
00:24:24.880 --> 00:24:29.039
<v Speaker 1>You know, Yeah, I think he'll. I think Daniel will.

494
00:24:29.440 --> 00:24:32.880
<v Speaker 1>And Daniel finished fourth place in the PGT Championship, so

495
00:24:32.960 --> 00:24:35.279
<v Speaker 1>that's why this is kind of top of mind. You know,

496
00:24:35.359 --> 00:24:38.079
<v Speaker 1>he hadn't been playing a lot of PGT events towards

497
00:24:38.119 --> 00:24:42.160
<v Speaker 1>the second half of the season, you know, and especially

498
00:24:42.279 --> 00:24:46.319
<v Speaker 1>as things went into the later months of twenty twenty five.

499
00:24:46.440 --> 00:24:49.319
<v Speaker 1>Obviously he was down in the Bahamas during WSP Paradise

500
00:24:50.000 --> 00:24:53.240
<v Speaker 1>playing the joint events that were you know, both the

501
00:24:53.319 --> 00:24:57.319
<v Speaker 1>WSOP events and PGT qualifying down there. But I don't know,

502
00:24:57.480 --> 00:24:59.279
<v Speaker 1>I just get the sense that you know, like you said,

503
00:24:59.319 --> 00:25:01.880
<v Speaker 1>he's just kind of kind of focused on improving his

504
00:25:01.960 --> 00:25:06.079
<v Speaker 1>golf game, chilling at home and living that sort of

505
00:25:06.119 --> 00:25:08.599
<v Speaker 1>life right now. Now. I will also say that, you know,

506
00:25:08.720 --> 00:25:14.160
<v Speaker 1>having known Daniel for for many years, that he's highly competitive,

507
00:25:14.519 --> 00:25:17.960
<v Speaker 1>and I think eventually he'll kind of swing back to poker. Yeah,

508
00:25:18.000 --> 00:25:20.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, so maybe he scales back in terms of

509
00:25:20.319 --> 00:25:22.839
<v Speaker 1>PGT or even if that is W s AP or whatever,

510
00:25:23.480 --> 00:25:25.440
<v Speaker 1>but you know, eventually, I think that drive will kind

511
00:25:25.440 --> 00:25:26.839
<v Speaker 1>of come back, you know, kind of just like it

512
00:25:26.960 --> 00:25:29.039
<v Speaker 1>right now, it's coming back to him with golf, Like

513
00:25:29.160 --> 00:25:31.279
<v Speaker 1>he really wants to focus on the golf stuff and

514
00:25:31.359 --> 00:25:33.400
<v Speaker 1>he wants to get better there. You know, I think

515
00:25:33.480 --> 00:25:36.599
<v Speaker 1>eventually he'll he'll kick back around to coming back into

516
00:25:36.640 --> 00:25:38.440
<v Speaker 1>poker and then maybe he'll make you know, a couple

517
00:25:38.559 --> 00:25:40.720
<v Speaker 1>more big pushes here and there, you know, kind of

518
00:25:40.759 --> 00:25:43.720
<v Speaker 1>similar to what we've seen, not not maybe this season

519
00:25:43.759 --> 00:25:46.119
<v Speaker 1>because it did kind of you know, fall off towards

520
00:25:46.160 --> 00:25:48.279
<v Speaker 1>the end, but but prior seasons, you know, he was

521
00:25:48.720 --> 00:25:52.960
<v Speaker 1>out here battling every single every single time that there

522
00:25:53.079 --> 00:25:56.039
<v Speaker 1>was an event here at the studio. So I think

523
00:25:56.079 --> 00:25:58.279
<v Speaker 1>that's what we'll kind of see for Daniel. I mean

524
00:25:58.640 --> 00:26:00.480
<v Speaker 1>this is kind of related, but you know, because he

525
00:26:00.559 --> 00:26:04.519
<v Speaker 1>obviously supports him and whatnot. But Jeremy Becker, I think

526
00:26:04.559 --> 00:26:06.440
<v Speaker 1>he's someone who's going to go the other way. You know,

527
00:26:06.519 --> 00:26:09.039
<v Speaker 1>he's coming off that big score in December at the WPT.

528
00:26:09.319 --> 00:26:11.680
<v Speaker 1>You know, he won over seven hundred K for taking

529
00:26:11.720 --> 00:26:15.359
<v Speaker 1>fifth place in that WPT World Championship events. He's had

530
00:26:15.400 --> 00:26:18.680
<v Speaker 1>some other scores around town. He's done well here in

531
00:26:18.799 --> 00:26:22.000
<v Speaker 1>the studio as of late. So I think Jeremi Becker

532
00:26:22.039 --> 00:26:23.880
<v Speaker 1>is somebody who I mean, he's always told me that,

533
00:26:24.440 --> 00:26:26.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, he wants to just keep playing bigger and

534
00:26:26.160 --> 00:26:27.759
<v Speaker 1>bigger and bigger and play as high as possible.

535
00:26:27.920 --> 00:26:28.480
<v Speaker 3>That's his goal.

536
00:26:28.759 --> 00:26:31.079
<v Speaker 1>So you know, he's someone where I don't think he

537
00:26:32.440 --> 00:26:34.839
<v Speaker 1>cares one bit about backing off as it pertains to

538
00:26:34.880 --> 00:26:37.839
<v Speaker 1>the tax stuff. So you know, if he's got the

539
00:26:37.960 --> 00:26:42.279
<v Speaker 1>money and he's playing well and feels like he's on form,

540
00:26:42.519 --> 00:26:43.839
<v Speaker 1>you know he's going to be in here and he's

541
00:26:43.880 --> 00:26:45.640
<v Speaker 1>going to be firing away. So he's someone who I

542
00:26:45.680 --> 00:26:49.000
<v Speaker 1>would expect to actually scale up his volume, whereas we

543
00:26:49.160 --> 00:26:51.160
<v Speaker 1>might see someone like you know, a Daniel mcgrown you

544
00:26:51.200 --> 00:26:53.279
<v Speaker 1>scale back. You know, that's kind of my I read

545
00:26:53.359 --> 00:26:55.839
<v Speaker 1>on the situation there and then I don't know, I

546
00:26:56.000 --> 00:26:57.279
<v Speaker 1>just kind of get the sense that a lot of

547
00:26:57.319 --> 00:27:00.599
<v Speaker 1>these guys again are just going to be here just firing.

548
00:27:01.000 --> 00:27:02.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't know what. I mean, what else

549
00:27:02.440 --> 00:27:03.599
<v Speaker 1>are they going to do with their lives?

550
00:27:03.960 --> 00:27:04.359
<v Speaker 3>Exactly?

551
00:27:04.480 --> 00:27:07.480
<v Speaker 1>This is what they do. They play poker, they gamble,

552
00:27:08.200 --> 00:27:10.240
<v Speaker 1>and that's that. So I mean, we'll see, you know,

553
00:27:10.359 --> 00:27:12.680
<v Speaker 1>I think one of the big things Tim and I

554
00:27:12.759 --> 00:27:14.920
<v Speaker 1>have talked about it, and I think we've said it

555
00:27:14.960 --> 00:27:17.319
<v Speaker 1>here on the podcast, but those those high roller events

556
00:27:17.359 --> 00:27:20.559
<v Speaker 1>that are coming up at Seminole. You know, speaking of

557
00:27:20.640 --> 00:27:23.079
<v Speaker 1>Jeremy Becker, he's currently on a plane right now going

558
00:27:23.119 --> 00:27:25.960
<v Speaker 1>down there. But you know, how well do those events

559
00:27:26.079 --> 00:27:28.920
<v Speaker 1>draw You know, you can't really use this PGT Last

560
00:27:29.000 --> 00:27:32.200
<v Speaker 1>Chance series as a good gauge because there's just so

561
00:27:32.400 --> 00:27:36.400
<v Speaker 1>much tied to qualifying for the free roll that I

562
00:27:36.480 --> 00:27:39.240
<v Speaker 1>think anyone that was possibly thinking about scaling back is

563
00:27:39.279 --> 00:27:41.839
<v Speaker 1>still going to fire hard during Last Chance just for

564
00:27:41.960 --> 00:27:44.240
<v Speaker 1>the chance to get into the free roll. And then

565
00:27:44.279 --> 00:27:48.880
<v Speaker 1>they'll they'll readjust you know, post Last Chance, post PGT Championship,

566
00:27:48.960 --> 00:27:51.319
<v Speaker 1>So you know, we'll see how these these high rollers

567
00:27:51.359 --> 00:27:54.400
<v Speaker 1>go for a lucky hearts down in Florida. We'll be

568
00:27:54.440 --> 00:27:57.440
<v Speaker 1>paying attention to that. There's some other events that we

569
00:27:57.559 --> 00:27:59.200
<v Speaker 1>can kind of keep an eye on. Of course, we

570
00:27:59.319 --> 00:28:01.799
<v Speaker 1>have the PGT kickoff series that that we'll see how

571
00:28:01.839 --> 00:28:04.519
<v Speaker 1>that goes. But yeah, you know, overall, I think it's

572
00:28:04.519 --> 00:28:07.200
<v Speaker 1>going to be kind of an interesting, I don't know,

573
00:28:07.240 --> 00:28:10.359
<v Speaker 1>a couple of months at least for poker as a whole,

574
00:28:10.880 --> 00:28:14.079
<v Speaker 1>at least as it pertains specifically to the high roller scene.

575
00:28:14.160 --> 00:28:16.400
<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of other stuff will we'll do

576
00:28:16.880 --> 00:28:19.759
<v Speaker 1>just fine, you know. I think one of the things

577
00:28:19.799 --> 00:28:22.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm most looking forward to is this, I don't know,

578
00:28:22.480 --> 00:28:24.720
<v Speaker 1>there's this big ass chunk of events that's coming up

579
00:28:24.759 --> 00:28:26.000
<v Speaker 1>in like February and March.

580
00:28:27.160 --> 00:28:30.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like you have too many events. What's first Win

581
00:28:30.200 --> 00:28:33.920
<v Speaker 2>Millions is first no WPT five k Venetian and then

582
00:28:33.960 --> 00:28:36.559
<v Speaker 2>Win Millions, yeah, and then Poker Girl Cup like bang

583
00:28:36.640 --> 00:28:39.079
<v Speaker 2>bang bang, and like partly overlapping with each other, so

584
00:28:40.319 --> 00:28:42.119
<v Speaker 2>a good way. Yeah, yeah, no, for sure, Like you

585
00:28:42.200 --> 00:28:44.920
<v Speaker 2>can basically come out to Vegas and just play anything

586
00:28:45.000 --> 00:28:47.119
<v Speaker 2>and everything. So that's going to be a lot of

587
00:28:47.200 --> 00:28:50.200
<v Speaker 2>fun and also you know, good to be able to

588
00:28:50.240 --> 00:28:51.640
<v Speaker 2>compete and get out there. I'm gonna ty and get

589
00:28:51.640 --> 00:28:55.559
<v Speaker 2>out there as much as I can. So what else

590
00:28:55.599 --> 00:28:57.160
<v Speaker 2>you got for me? Uh?

591
00:28:58.079 --> 00:29:01.720
<v Speaker 1>Kickoff starts in what two weeks? That's double points.

592
00:29:02.079 --> 00:29:04.920
<v Speaker 2>Two x points for kickoff cash is they're trying to

593
00:29:04.960 --> 00:29:07.039
<v Speaker 2>start our season. Then we're going to go into the

594
00:29:07.079 --> 00:29:09.559
<v Speaker 2>PGT Mixed Games, one hundred cases of high roll the ball,

595
00:29:09.640 --> 00:29:12.200
<v Speaker 2>Then we're going to go into PERG Cup and then

596
00:29:12.519 --> 00:29:15.039
<v Speaker 2>everything else CBD from there. I guess I'm looking forward

597
00:29:15.079 --> 00:29:17.559
<v Speaker 2>to hitting some more. You know, we hit a few

598
00:29:17.599 --> 00:29:21.039
<v Speaker 2>big accomplishments on the PGT like what later this year?

599
00:29:21.440 --> 00:29:24.240
<v Speaker 2>Like what well Alex Fox and Saving Chadwick both hit

600
00:29:24.279 --> 00:29:25.759
<v Speaker 2>ten thousand PGT points.

601
00:29:25.799 --> 00:29:27.759
<v Speaker 1>Sorry you you not we?

602
00:29:28.599 --> 00:29:30.200
<v Speaker 3>You said we hit accomlised the tour.

603
00:29:30.519 --> 00:29:33.200
<v Speaker 1>We okay, we as the tour has nothing to do

604
00:29:33.279 --> 00:29:36.799
<v Speaker 1>with that accomplished well of the tour. You are so

605
00:29:37.000 --> 00:29:37.559
<v Speaker 1>weird with this.

606
00:29:39.000 --> 00:29:39.720
<v Speaker 3>No, not we.

607
00:29:41.279 --> 00:29:44.039
<v Speaker 1>You didn't do anything to help Alex Foxen get to

608
00:29:44.079 --> 00:29:44.759
<v Speaker 1>whatever that happens.

609
00:29:45.039 --> 00:29:46.480
<v Speaker 3>I created some events for him to play.

610
00:29:47.160 --> 00:29:48.880
<v Speaker 1>Alex Foxen is an absolute beast.

611
00:29:51.119 --> 00:29:55.000
<v Speaker 2>Sam several, Alex Fox and Jeremy osmas Sean Winter all

612
00:29:55.039 --> 00:29:56.960
<v Speaker 2>hit one hundred p GT cashes.

613
00:29:57.200 --> 00:29:59.960
<v Speaker 1>Do you think Phil Helmony is going to play more events? Yeah?

614
00:30:00.279 --> 00:30:02.640
<v Speaker 1>He kept talking about it during the Last Chance. He

615
00:30:02.759 --> 00:30:06.319
<v Speaker 1>kept talking about how to get into the free roll. Yeah,

616
00:30:06.319 --> 00:30:09.799
<v Speaker 1>I would like to see I told you know, Porker

617
00:30:09.839 --> 00:30:12.640
<v Speaker 1>grows ceo that Brent Hanks the other day, you know,

618
00:30:12.680 --> 00:30:14.799
<v Speaker 1>because I think I think Hellmuth might have been messaging him.

619
00:30:15.160 --> 00:30:16.480
<v Speaker 1>Is he getting in the free roll or is he not?

620
00:30:16.720 --> 00:30:19.000
<v Speaker 1>Obviously not, he missed out. He got close to winning

621
00:30:19.039 --> 00:30:21.119
<v Speaker 1>one of those dream seas. But and I told Brent,

622
00:30:21.200 --> 00:30:24.920
<v Speaker 1>I said, listen, the way Helm Youth shows up and

623
00:30:25.160 --> 00:30:30.519
<v Speaker 1>battles and just fights till the ever dying last chip

624
00:30:30.680 --> 00:30:33.400
<v Speaker 1>in every single tournament that he plays. If he were

625
00:30:33.480 --> 00:30:36.920
<v Speaker 1>to put in I'm not even asking for full volume,

626
00:30:37.200 --> 00:30:40.680
<v Speaker 1>just respectable volume. On the PGT, he would be a

627
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<v Speaker 1>lock to qualify for the Free Roll. At one lock

628
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<v Speaker 1>to qualify for the PGT Million Dollar Championship. Like, there's

629
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<v Speaker 1>just no way he wouldn't qualify. He fights too hard

630
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<v Speaker 1>to cash and then usually that results in in somehow

631
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<v Speaker 1>making his way to the final table. Like, Yeah, you

632
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<v Speaker 1>can make fun of his style, and you can say

633
00:30:59.799 --> 00:31:02.440
<v Speaker 1>he's too tighter, conservative and certain spots and he does

634
00:31:02.519 --> 00:31:04.200
<v Speaker 1>his own thing and all that sort of stuff. Yes,

635
00:31:04.319 --> 00:31:07.519
<v Speaker 1>but he still performs I mean, he did very well

636
00:31:07.599 --> 00:31:11.039
<v Speaker 1>at Last Chance, had a handful of deep runs at

637
00:31:11.079 --> 00:31:14.200
<v Speaker 1>two final tables, Like, I mean, he can do it.

638
00:31:14.359 --> 00:31:16.119
<v Speaker 1>So if he just put in the volume. The thing

639
00:31:16.200 --> 00:31:18.480
<v Speaker 1>is with him is like he never shows up here. Yeah,

640
00:31:18.519 --> 00:31:20.519
<v Speaker 1>like he might pop in for like one US Poker

641
00:31:20.519 --> 00:31:22.359
<v Speaker 1>Open event and then we won't see him, or like

642
00:31:22.720 --> 00:31:25.079
<v Speaker 1>one Poker Masters event and we won't see him. I mean,

643
00:31:25.119 --> 00:31:27.319
<v Speaker 1>obviously we know what he does at the WSP and

644
00:31:27.640 --> 00:31:30.240
<v Speaker 1>a lot of those events are PGT qualifying events. Yes,

645
00:31:31.039 --> 00:31:32.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, but you have to be able to make

646
00:31:33.039 --> 00:31:35.480
<v Speaker 1>up for stuff elsewhere unless you have like one of

647
00:31:35.519 --> 00:31:38.440
<v Speaker 1>those crazy big scores you know, like a Michael Mssrocky

648
00:31:38.480 --> 00:31:41.039
<v Speaker 1>did or whatever. But you know, without one of those,

649
00:31:41.160 --> 00:31:43.440
<v Speaker 1>you really do have to grind the whole tour, Like

650
00:31:43.559 --> 00:31:47.000
<v Speaker 1>the whole top forty of the PGT leaderboard that qualify,

651
00:31:47.160 --> 00:31:50.640
<v Speaker 1>like the large majority of them grind the tour, you know.

652
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<v Speaker 1>So if Helmet just came out here, like you know,

653
00:31:53.559 --> 00:31:58.039
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, give me, give me thirty events, he's

654
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<v Speaker 1>in for sure.

655
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

656
00:32:00.359 --> 00:32:02.839
<v Speaker 1>If he plays thirty events I'm talking about I'm talking

657
00:32:02.839 --> 00:32:04.680
<v Speaker 1>about at the studio. Thirty events at the studio, he's

658
00:32:04.720 --> 00:32:08.799
<v Speaker 1>going to cash in like twelve of them. Yeah, probably

659
00:32:08.880 --> 00:32:12.279
<v Speaker 1>make four final tables. I mean he he like he's

660
00:32:12.319 --> 00:32:14.079
<v Speaker 1>going to have a baseline of like five or six

661
00:32:14.160 --> 00:32:16.440
<v Speaker 1>hundred points there alone, yep, and then he can make

662
00:32:16.519 --> 00:32:18.720
<v Speaker 1>up the rest of it when it comes to the

663
00:32:18.920 --> 00:32:20.160
<v Speaker 1>WSIP and that sort of stuff.

664
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<v Speaker 2>You know.

665
00:32:20.880 --> 00:32:23.960
<v Speaker 1>So let's go, Phil, come on, come on, let's go.

666
00:32:24.240 --> 00:32:26.680
<v Speaker 1>If Daniel is going to be scaling back, let's put

667
00:32:26.720 --> 00:32:28.400
<v Speaker 1>phil helmets in this place and let's see if Phil

668
00:32:28.440 --> 00:32:30.680
<v Speaker 1>can do it. I would love to see it.

669
00:32:31.000 --> 00:32:33.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, going back to this commentary real quick, this season

670
00:32:33.759 --> 00:32:36.519
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty six, a couple more people should a ten

671
00:32:36.559 --> 00:32:40.920
<v Speaker 2>thousand points, Sam Sarvo, Jeremy Osmus, maybe, Dianian o'greenner one hundred,

672
00:32:41.000 --> 00:32:45.720
<v Speaker 2>Kasha's saving Chidwick went away, Daniel o'greanner won away, Nick

673
00:32:45.799 --> 00:32:49.799
<v Speaker 2>Schulman eight away, Carry Katz twelve away. So a couple

674
00:32:50.519 --> 00:32:55.200
<v Speaker 2>potential accomplishments on the cause upcoming in twenty twenty six

675
00:32:55.240 --> 00:32:56.240
<v Speaker 2>I would expect to see.

676
00:32:57.720 --> 00:32:59.799
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I mean that's a good list. Those are all

677
00:32:59.799 --> 00:33:02.559
<v Speaker 1>the volume guys, of course, So yeah, you know, kind

678
00:33:02.599 --> 00:33:05.640
<v Speaker 1>of just putting in your time and all that sort

679
00:33:05.640 --> 00:33:07.799
<v Speaker 1>of stuff, you should do some sort of like I

680
00:33:07.839 --> 00:33:11.359
<v Speaker 1>don't know, five year thing, now that it's been five

681
00:33:11.440 --> 00:33:13.359
<v Speaker 1>years of the tour or five seasons of the tour?

682
00:33:13.599 --> 00:33:15.319
<v Speaker 3>Have that plant? Actually? There you go?

683
00:33:15.640 --> 00:33:19.240
<v Speaker 1>Perfect? So who's the leader in points? Has to be

684
00:33:19.559 --> 00:33:19.880
<v Speaker 1>run here?

685
00:33:20.079 --> 00:33:20.200
<v Speaker 3>Right?

686
00:33:20.680 --> 00:33:21.160
<v Speaker 1>How is it not.

687
00:33:22.839 --> 00:33:23.519
<v Speaker 3>Alex Foxing?

688
00:33:23.720 --> 00:33:24.720
<v Speaker 1>Oh? Foxing's leading?

689
00:33:25.000 --> 00:33:25.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

690
00:33:25.920 --> 00:33:29.559
<v Speaker 1>But when did Foxen start like really playing high rollers?

691
00:33:30.759 --> 00:33:34.279
<v Speaker 1>Wasn't it like a season into the PGT? Like what

692
00:33:34.400 --> 00:33:38.160
<v Speaker 1>did he do the twenty one season twenty twenty one

693
00:33:38.319 --> 00:33:45.440
<v Speaker 1>or was he always around then? He was fairly always around. Yeah,

694
00:33:45.519 --> 00:33:48.079
<v Speaker 1>he's cash that you know La Poker Classic.

695
00:33:48.240 --> 00:33:50.279
<v Speaker 2>Oh wait, no, that's not he's facing He took second

696
00:33:50.359 --> 00:33:52.880
<v Speaker 2>in the very first Aria high Roller of the season

697
00:33:52.960 --> 00:33:55.519
<v Speaker 2>to dance me, so from the very s thought he

698
00:33:55.680 --> 00:33:56.000
<v Speaker 2>was there.

699
00:33:56.279 --> 00:34:00.839
<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, okay, all right, Well, you know it's gonna

700
00:34:00.839 --> 00:34:03.200
<v Speaker 1>be fun. It's gonna be very fun. I don't really

701
00:34:03.200 --> 00:34:05.359
<v Speaker 1>have anything else to talk about. I don't think you

702
00:34:05.480 --> 00:34:05.799
<v Speaker 1>do either.

703
00:34:05.880 --> 00:34:06.920
<v Speaker 3>How do we do with fantasy?

704
00:34:07.319 --> 00:34:09.920
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't tell you, to be honest, we'll have to

705
00:34:09.960 --> 00:34:11.360
<v Speaker 1>I'll just have to like wrap it up and then

706
00:34:11.400 --> 00:34:13.880
<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about it on the next podcast. Let's just

707
00:34:14.840 --> 00:34:15.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to be I don't want to be

708
00:34:16.000 --> 00:34:18.800
<v Speaker 1>looking at it. I don't think anyone had Chatty Sledge. No,

709
00:34:19.880 --> 00:34:23.039
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to think, if well, then fuck you want?

710
00:34:23.159 --> 00:34:24.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean you just want. I mean that's just how

711
00:34:24.800 --> 00:34:28.280
<v Speaker 1>it is. I mean, it's unbelieving. I'm just the best,

712
00:34:28.920 --> 00:34:31.280
<v Speaker 1>the best, I mean, you know, the best, the fantasy,

713
00:34:31.599 --> 00:34:34.679
<v Speaker 1>the best. You got so lucky under what do you mean?

714
00:34:34.719 --> 00:34:36.599
<v Speaker 1>You were drafted people that didn't even show up to

715
00:34:37.000 --> 00:34:37.840
<v Speaker 1>things that we were doing.

716
00:34:38.000 --> 00:34:40.320
<v Speaker 3>Okay, one guy, fucking Lewis Bence.

717
00:34:40.960 --> 00:34:43.880
<v Speaker 1>It's it's just unbelievable. It's it's really is unbelievable.

718
00:34:44.000 --> 00:34:46.440
<v Speaker 2>So I got nothing p G T wise, But I guess, like,

719
00:34:47.320 --> 00:34:48.880
<v Speaker 2>what are wrapp plans a couple of weeks off? We're

720
00:34:48.880 --> 00:34:50.760
<v Speaker 2>gonna play some cords? What are you gonna do?

721
00:34:51.199 --> 00:34:52.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, I don't know what I'm gonna do.

722
00:34:52.760 --> 00:34:55.840
<v Speaker 2>I gotta I got a very very silly Holf Marathon

723
00:34:55.960 --> 00:34:58.679
<v Speaker 2>next weekend, which I might die at. So you might

724
00:34:58.719 --> 00:35:01.519
<v Speaker 2>need to find a new podcast hot But fine.

725
00:35:01.320 --> 00:35:06.719
<v Speaker 1>By me, Fine by me, buddy, fine by me. All right, cool,

726
00:35:07.559 --> 00:35:09.400
<v Speaker 1>So we'll get out of here on that. Not much

727
00:35:09.440 --> 00:35:11.320
<v Speaker 1>else to talk about again. If you guys missed the

728
00:35:11.400 --> 00:35:13.800
<v Speaker 1>PGG Championship event, you guys can go find it on

729
00:35:13.960 --> 00:35:15.960
<v Speaker 1>PokerGO dot com. You can also find it on the

730
00:35:16.000 --> 00:35:19.800
<v Speaker 1>poker Go YouTube channel. Two days of coverage we got

731
00:35:19.840 --> 00:35:23.480
<v Speaker 1>the entire final table was streamed as well as I

732
00:35:23.519 --> 00:35:26.239
<v Speaker 1>don't know sixty or seventy percent of Day one, you know,

733
00:35:26.480 --> 00:35:29.800
<v Speaker 1>a large portion of Day one, very very high level poker.

734
00:35:30.000 --> 00:35:32.559
<v Speaker 1>I know you might not think that when you hear

735
00:35:32.639 --> 00:35:33.960
<v Speaker 1>it free roll. By the way, this is a pep

736
00:35:34.000 --> 00:35:36.280
<v Speaker 1>peeve of mine that's that's now grown in the last

737
00:35:36.360 --> 00:35:38.159
<v Speaker 1>forty eight hours. But we can't call this thing the

738
00:35:38.199 --> 00:35:41.280
<v Speaker 1>free roll, which I've already done many times on this podcast.

739
00:35:42.039 --> 00:35:44.199
<v Speaker 1>We got to call it the PGG Championship just because

740
00:35:44.199 --> 00:35:47.679
<v Speaker 1>I think free roll just has this stereotype to it

741
00:35:47.760 --> 00:35:50.039
<v Speaker 1>that it's just like, oh willy nilly now the way

742
00:35:50.159 --> 00:35:52.800
<v Speaker 1>Chino rembusted he was playing like a damn free roll.

743
00:35:53.000 --> 00:35:57.800
<v Speaker 1>But you know it's certainly not not a free roll

744
00:35:58.000 --> 00:36:00.559
<v Speaker 1>at all. Yes, it is a free roll in this,

745
00:36:00.880 --> 00:36:03.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, the most specific definition of a free role.

746
00:36:04.079 --> 00:36:07.079
<v Speaker 1>These players didn't pay anything to get in. But this

747
00:36:07.280 --> 00:36:11.800
<v Speaker 1>is a championship level event. It is incredible and well.

748
00:36:11.960 --> 00:36:14.960
<v Speaker 1>It is done and dusted, as are we. So for

749
00:36:15.119 --> 00:36:17.599
<v Speaker 1>Tim Duckworth, my name is Donnie Peters. Oh, one more

750
00:36:17.599 --> 00:36:19.599
<v Speaker 1>shout out. I'm gonna be on the Clyde Gaskins podcast

751
00:36:19.639 --> 00:36:21.639
<v Speaker 1>next week, so you guys should definitely check that out.

752
00:36:22.599 --> 00:36:24.719
<v Speaker 1>I can't wait for that. It was funny. Clyde's like,

753
00:36:24.840 --> 00:36:26.119
<v Speaker 1>he's like, you know, he asked me if I want

754
00:36:26.159 --> 00:36:27.599
<v Speaker 1>to be on whatever, and he's like, yeah, you know.

755
00:36:28.239 --> 00:36:31.719
<v Speaker 1>He's like, it's pretty easy, you know questions. I said, Clyde, listen,

756
00:36:32.440 --> 00:36:36.280
<v Speaker 1>I handle podcasts, Okay, you can ask me whatever the

757
00:36:36.320 --> 00:36:39.039
<v Speaker 1>fuck you want. I do not care open book. He said,

758
00:36:39.119 --> 00:36:41.159
<v Speaker 1>nothing's off the table. I said, no, Clyde, Look what

759
00:36:41.559 --> 00:36:44.760
<v Speaker 1>worst case scenario, Clyde, I'm gonna just deflect because I

760
00:36:44.840 --> 00:36:47.079
<v Speaker 1>know how to deflect, you know. But other than that,

761
00:36:47.480 --> 00:36:48.079
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't matter.

762
00:36:48.639 --> 00:36:50.239
<v Speaker 3>Asked you what I mean?

763
00:36:50.559 --> 00:36:54.599
<v Speaker 1>Ask away? Ask away? So insult. That's gonna take place

764
00:36:55.360 --> 00:36:58.199
<v Speaker 1>next week. I don't know when it comes out after that,

765
00:36:58.400 --> 00:37:01.599
<v Speaker 1>but I'm excited to be on what is it called

766
00:37:01.639 --> 00:37:05.239
<v Speaker 1>Snack Attack with Clyde Gaskin whatever you guys find it

767
00:37:05.320 --> 00:37:09.079
<v Speaker 1>on YouTube. Clyde's the freaking man. Unless you're you're Jammie Becker,

768
00:37:09.159 --> 00:37:13.400
<v Speaker 1>then you know, wow, Well, Jeremy just thinks. Jeremy's like

769
00:37:13.400 --> 00:37:17.519
<v Speaker 1>a typical poker player right in that. Once you get

770
00:37:17.559 --> 00:37:19.119
<v Speaker 1>one dealer and he starts giving you a couple of

771
00:37:19.159 --> 00:37:22.239
<v Speaker 1>bad beats, that's just not your dealer anymore. Right, That's

772
00:37:22.280 --> 00:37:25.119
<v Speaker 1>just how it is, you know, But we all know.

773
00:37:25.239 --> 00:37:28.440
<v Speaker 1>It's just it's how you play. It's not how the content.

774
00:37:29.320 --> 00:37:30.960
<v Speaker 1>All right, that's gonna do it for us. As I said,

775
00:37:31.000 --> 00:37:33.320
<v Speaker 1>he's him Duckworth, and I am Donnie Peters, and we

776
00:37:33.360 --> 00:37:34.960
<v Speaker 1>will talk to you guys next time.

777
00:37:39.840 --> 00:37:40.159
<v Speaker 2>Jami