1 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:14,439 Speaker 1: What is going on? Clippers fans? Welcome to season three, 2 00:00:14,519 --> 00:00:19,000 episode fifty four of Clips and Dim. I am Chuck Mockler, 3 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:22,920 joined by Adam Oslin and William Updyke. The Clippers are 4 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:26,519 on a three game winning streak, which is fantastic heading 5 00:00:26,559 --> 00:00:29,839 into a bit of a tough week opponent wise. We're 6 00:00:29,839 --> 00:00:31,760 gonna talk to the upcoming week and then a quick 7 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:35,600 Clippers versus Calves preview. But before we get into that, 8 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:37,280 if you're watching us, thank you for watching us at 9 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:39,960 YouTube dot Columns a Shack Clippers podcast. If you're listening, 10 00:00:40,039 --> 00:00:42,679 we like that too. Adam, will what are you guys 11 00:00:42,719 --> 00:00:46,759 taking away from the Clippers? Absolutely shell lacking the Hornets, 12 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:49,520 aside from the fact that Zoos should have been left 13 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:50,520 in to get a triple double. 14 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:55,399 Speaker 2: Still gotta get those wins, you know what I mean. No, 15 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:57,640 it's good to see him taking care of business. It's 16 00:00:58,359 --> 00:01:00,399 it's good to see them look dominant in any form, 17 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:04,239 even if it's against a lesser opponent. And you know, 18 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:06,680 from what we talked last week to now, I just 19 00:01:06,719 --> 00:01:08,920 feel like the ups and downs that this team are 20 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:12,200 in like full have been in like full focus really 21 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:16,040 since the All Star break. It's really been the full experience, 22 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:18,719 So to be on a high now is definitely very good. 23 00:01:18,719 --> 00:01:20,480 But I mean, we're gonna talk about it just a bit. 24 00:01:20,719 --> 00:01:24,959 I do feel like this game against the Cavs is 25 00:01:25,239 --> 00:01:29,920 you know it, It has the potential to show something 26 00:01:30,159 --> 00:01:31,920 like a little bit more serious for where this team 27 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,040 is at, if they are in fact serious. 28 00:01:34,359 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 1: There you go, Adam, how are you feeling. 29 00:01:36,599 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 3: It's the type of win you want to see when 30 00:01:38,719 --> 00:01:40,599 you think you're a good team and you're playing a 31 00:01:40,599 --> 00:01:44,239 really bad team. It's that type of victory. Coach post 32 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:47,040 games that it was, you know, a businesslike approach or 33 00:01:47,079 --> 00:01:48,719 handling their business type of game. 34 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:52,079 Speaker 4: It looked like that. It was almost a wire to 35 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:52,599 wire win. 36 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:54,599 Speaker 3: I think after they were tied at eleven in the 37 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:58,280 first quarter, the Clippers pulled away and they were dominant, 38 00:01:58,359 --> 00:02:02,760 and multiple individual players in the game shined at times. 39 00:02:03,439 --> 00:02:05,959 Outside of Norm Powell looking like he's still knocking off 40 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:10,319 the rust, everybody looked really good and it's kind of 41 00:02:10,439 --> 00:02:13,280 confirming that they are playing better basketball even though it's 42 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:14,439 a bad team. 43 00:02:14,879 --> 00:02:16,719 Speaker 4: Again, you beat him like that. 44 00:02:16,719 --> 00:02:18,479 Speaker 3: That's kind of what you were looking to see in 45 00:02:18,479 --> 00:02:20,879 that game, especially with the three games coming up next. 46 00:02:21,879 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. I thought the Norm thing, it was like it 47 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:26,599 totally expected him to be cold. I know we've been 48 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:29,400 spoiled sometimes with Norm when he comes back from injuries 49 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:31,680 where it was like, oh, yeah, he can walk into twenty, 50 00:02:31,719 --> 00:02:35,520 I guess, but the rest made sense. Perfect game to 51 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,080 knock the rust off in considering how it went in 52 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:41,759 the opponent we were playing. I did a live before 53 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,080 the game and people were worried because the Horns put 54 00:02:44,159 --> 00:02:46,719 up like one hundred and what was it, one hundred 55 00:02:46,719 --> 00:02:48,960 and sixty five against the Spurs, But I think they 56 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,280 won by like eleven points, so it was like they 57 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:54,639 got all their scoring out of the way and we 58 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:56,879 took care of business. Do we think the starting lineup 59 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:00,360 is fully set that now we have full rotation? Not 60 00:03:00,439 --> 00:03:02,439 to spoil the second segment, but no one's on the 61 00:03:02,439 --> 00:03:06,199 injury report who's in the actual rotation for the game tomorrow? 62 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:08,840 So are we looking at the Norm, Derek Jones, Junior 63 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,759 Kawhi harden Zoo from here on out? 64 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 3: I I I'm just going off of what Coach Lou said. 65 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:19,639 It sounded like it was gonna be a matchup dependent 66 00:03:19,719 --> 00:03:22,400 between DJ between Chris Dunn and then you throwing the 67 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:27,159 wrinkle of Niko Batoum starting games as of late, and 68 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:31,240 he looked good out there. I don't think there's a 69 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:35,560 tremendous drop off between, you know, one of those guys 70 00:03:35,599 --> 00:03:38,479 being in there versus the others. But we do have 71 00:03:38,719 --> 00:03:42,080 some decent sample size with DJ being the guy, and 72 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,479 the Clippers have one of the best net ratings in 73 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,560 the NBA with that five man starting unit. 74 00:03:48,039 --> 00:03:50,159 Speaker 4: So I would lean that way just because of. 75 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:54,439 Speaker 3: His versatility and Chris Dun's more of a specialist Niko 76 00:03:54,479 --> 00:03:57,360 Batum if you're playing a bigger team, you might need him, 77 00:03:57,719 --> 00:03:59,680 but I would say the majority of the time I 78 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:00,639 would go with DJ. 79 00:04:01,479 --> 00:04:03,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, well you were kind of you were early on 80 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,599 the DJ as the starter train, even before you know, 81 00:04:06,719 --> 00:04:09,360 injury stuff and stuff like that. I like what you said, Adam, 82 00:04:09,439 --> 00:04:11,400 like we have a sample size of this lineup being 83 00:04:11,439 --> 00:04:14,639 the best one the Clippers can put out, Like why 84 00:04:14,759 --> 00:04:15,199 change it? 85 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, just given like the injuries and how 86 00:04:19,519 --> 00:04:22,759 much has been influx, like it made sense. It also 87 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:26,600 just like Tilu's procluity and sort of this organization's procluity 88 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:28,680 for guards, like it made sense the way that they 89 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:31,680 were leaning. But at full strength, I think that this 90 00:04:31,759 --> 00:04:33,920 is the best version of the Clippers starting lineup again. 91 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,839 You know, like we've talked about many times, it's more 92 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,720 about who's closing and how those minutes are sort of dispersed, 93 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,639 because when you have a team that you know, margins 94 00:04:43,639 --> 00:04:45,959 that are as thin as this, it's it's really how 95 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,040 you how you can find ways to exploit that to 96 00:04:49,079 --> 00:04:50,920 do a little bit more than the some of its 97 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,399 parts would suggest. But I like DJJ there. I think 98 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:58,079 that I think the versatility and the athleticism is a 99 00:04:58,079 --> 00:05:01,160 big win. Even if you know you you prefer even 100 00:05:01,199 --> 00:05:03,959 more size, but the Clippers that's constructed that this is this. 101 00:05:03,959 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 1: Is what we can do. Yeah, that's a good call. 102 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,439 And dud being a specialist, I think we'll see that 103 00:05:08,519 --> 00:05:11,600 specialization a lot more of the playoffs when things get tighter. 104 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:13,879 Obviously we'll need his defense, but teams are gonna be 105 00:05:13,959 --> 00:05:16,079 very aware when he's on the court playoff wise, so. 106 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 2: Well like and depending on how how he's looking. And DJJ, 107 00:05:19,199 --> 00:05:21,120 I mean, you know, run him out to start second 108 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,439 half like it's you know, it's totally fine. But I 109 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:27,160 do think, you know, if there's an even an inkling 110 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:30,120 like sort of you know what We've been like talking 111 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,360 about all seasons that this is like the most likely 112 00:05:32,439 --> 00:05:34,360 or the most logical kind of starting lineup. I don't 113 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:37,079 see why not just go ahead and uh, you know, 114 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,879 put that one to print and uh, you know, correct 115 00:05:39,879 --> 00:05:40,319 from there. 116 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,199 Speaker 3: Do you guys think though, that Chris Dunn will be 117 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:46,319 coming off the bench tomorrow because he has the game 118 00:05:46,399 --> 00:05:49,680 off and now he's off the injury report. It feels 119 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,079 like it was a maintenance thing. He's been dealing with 120 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:54,600 that left knee issue, and they're going up against a 121 00:05:54,639 --> 00:05:57,040 team with Darius Garland and Donovan Mitchell. 122 00:05:57,079 --> 00:05:59,639 Speaker 4: It feels like it is a better matchup for him. 123 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:00,759 But I don't know. 124 00:06:01,079 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 1: But so that means Norm, I mean I think bringing 125 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:06,240 because that means Norm is off the betch right, We're 126 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:07,399 not gonna go three. 127 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:08,639 Speaker 4: Guards, that's true. 128 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, he might be crazy enough to go three guards, 129 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:12,959 because I've been thinking about that too, Like would he 130 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:14,639 go because that were really small? 131 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 3: I would do it against Memphis in the playoff series, 132 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,399 I don't think, like, yeah, I don't think he is 133 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,160 like a guard defensively. 134 00:06:22,199 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 2: Oh, which is totally fair. 135 00:06:23,879 --> 00:06:26,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, Offensively, he's not really anything. 136 00:06:27,639 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, on the offensive ends, he's definitely a negative spacer 137 00:06:30,639 --> 00:06:34,319 right now, but I think against certain teams you can 138 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:35,040 definitely do it. 139 00:06:35,399 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: But Calves, would you go three guards or Calves? I 140 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,759 feel like you gotta because their offense is not bad too. 141 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:44,000 We're gonna go over the stats. 142 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:50,959 Speaker 3: But I I think having him on Mitchell or Darius 143 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:55,800 Garland to start the game is a legitimate idea. Like 144 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:59,639 just I don't view him as three Like when you 145 00:06:59,639 --> 00:07:02,360 say three regards, it sounds like they have all these 146 00:07:02,439 --> 00:07:05,639 undersized guys that are going to get hunted, but Chris 147 00:07:05,639 --> 00:07:06,800 does not going to get hunted. 148 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:10,519 Speaker 4: Yeah, James Harden for instance, I brought up Memphis. 149 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 3: He's guarded Triple J and bigger guys at times. 150 00:07:14,519 --> 00:07:14,959 Speaker 4: Yeah. 151 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,439 Speaker 3: The smallest guy is Norman Powell really and his defense 152 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:20,399 has been solid for the most part this year. 153 00:07:21,199 --> 00:07:21,639 Speaker 1: I don't know. 154 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:26,279 Speaker 3: I I would go DJ just to have some consistency 155 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:30,079 right one, and I didn't have this evolving starting lineup. 156 00:07:30,079 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 4: I would just stick with DJ. But I see the logic. 157 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying though, Like I say, just like 158 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:39,319 put it to print and like adjusting game, and if 159 00:07:39,959 --> 00:07:42,480 that is working more favorably for the matchups, then sure, 160 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,439 like roll out the second half with different starting lineup. 161 00:07:45,439 --> 00:07:47,160 I think that that's totally fine. 162 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,319 Speaker 1: Or even switch someone out in the first quarter, right, yeah, 163 00:07:49,519 --> 00:07:51,600 it's like, oh, this is getting killed or something like. 164 00:07:51,639 --> 00:07:53,399 I don't think Ty would be hesitant to do that. 165 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:55,759 There's really only like two guys that it would affect. 166 00:07:55,839 --> 00:07:59,199 Right it's Derek Jones junior and Done. Who's coming in 167 00:07:59,240 --> 00:07:59,839 with him like that? 168 00:08:00,079 --> 00:08:00,199 Speaker 2: Uh? 169 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:04,279 Speaker 3: I think he could you Done though as a tone setter, 170 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:05,120 like this. 171 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 4: Guy wears you. 172 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so why not. 173 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 3: Start him to be that disruptor at the beginning of 174 00:08:10,079 --> 00:08:12,160 the game. I could seek tigh going with that. 175 00:08:13,839 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I yeah, I have been worried about the rotation. 176 00:08:17,879 --> 00:08:19,839 I just want to set rotation. I think that's just 177 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:28,920 maybe some cumulative At. 178 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 2: A certain point, I do feel like you need to 179 00:08:27,439 --> 00:08:31,199 narrow down the amount of variables. Like it's great to 180 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,320 have some versatility, it's great to have some different looks 181 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:35,759 that you can throw out there, Like there should be 182 00:08:36,799 --> 00:08:38,840 there should be a base point from which to adjust, 183 00:08:38,879 --> 00:08:41,879 which the Clippers, you know, in their defense, haven't really 184 00:08:41,879 --> 00:08:43,960 had the luxury of doing just with all the injuries 185 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,360 and stuff piling up. But at this point, I do 186 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:48,919 think it is time to commit to something and it 187 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:50,720 doesn't even always have to be the right thing. And 188 00:08:50,759 --> 00:08:52,879 like I said, you can't change and adjust in the game, 189 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:55,399 but you know you have to narrow I do feel 190 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:57,519 like you need to narrow it down to something like 191 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,519 you're a team that again has these kind of small margins. 192 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,879 Not everything can be like from the drawing board, even 193 00:09:03,919 --> 00:09:06,960 if it is only two variable players. But like you 194 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:10,480 know that that still is that's yeah, like that still 195 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:12,360 is a that still is a variable. 196 00:09:13,039 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. I guess we'll see. I would put my money. 197 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 2: On Derek Jones starting tomorrow. But do you think that 198 00:09:19,519 --> 00:09:21,679 Derek Jones Jr. Is that big of a step down 199 00:09:21,759 --> 00:09:25,000 like against guards as a defender if he's if he's 200 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:26,759 called to do so on certain actions. 201 00:09:27,799 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 3: There have been times recently, especially when he came back 202 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:34,000 from the line since with the knee injury, that I'm like, 203 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,799 oh my god, Chris Dunn is the best perimeter defender 204 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:37,519 I've ever seen. 205 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:37,799 Speaker 4: In my life. 206 00:09:37,879 --> 00:09:39,559 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah. 207 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:41,919 Speaker 4: So it's like it's not that he's such a step down. 208 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,200 The step down is from maybe like the. 209 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:45,559 Speaker 2: Best guy improve. 210 00:09:47,279 --> 00:09:51,159 Speaker 4: This type of stuff. I don't know, he's so special. 211 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: That is interesting. So we do have the Clippers have 212 00:09:55,759 --> 00:09:58,720 a brutal week coming up opponent wise, no matter how 213 00:09:58,759 --> 00:10:00,679 you look at it, For the most part, calvs. Grizzly 214 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:05,919 slender at the Knicks, I believe kind of the ultimate. Like, 215 00:10:06,639 --> 00:10:08,720 I guess we'll see where the full rotation looks like 216 00:10:08,799 --> 00:10:13,600 against the elite teams of the NBA. The final three 217 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:17,679 games are tough too. But like so, like the rotating 218 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,080 starting lineup, do we think that I think that probably 219 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:22,840 happens this week, right, Tyler's gonna try and throw stuff 220 00:10:23,639 --> 00:10:25,960 at the wall just to notice, even for it'll be 221 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,320 short sample sizes, but I think we'll see some tinkering 222 00:10:29,039 --> 00:10:32,120 for just again full rotation playoff purposes. 223 00:10:32,759 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, what if coach Lu's views it in this way, 224 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:40,039 I'm gonna be tinkering in the playoffs. We're almost there. 225 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:44,279 Why don't I just start now? Why don't I just start? 226 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,720 Like so, guys are already accustomed to knowing that I 227 00:10:47,759 --> 00:10:50,000 could be a starter tonight or maybe not, or I 228 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,759 could be playing with this player maybe not. But it 229 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:56,279 seemed like I thought the reason that Norman Palse didn't 230 00:10:56,279 --> 00:11:00,279 start the second half last game was because he wanted 231 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,519 to get him run with the second unit, because there 232 00:11:03,519 --> 00:11:05,679 are new guys on this team, and Norman only played 233 00:11:05,759 --> 00:11:07,080 nine minutes post All Star. 234 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 1: That's a good call. And the game was. 235 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 4: Throw guys in different combinations together, get him familiar. 236 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, and the game was effectively not over at halftime. 237 00:11:15,879 --> 00:11:19,559 But I think he felt comfortable tinkering in the second 238 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:20,480 half of that game. 239 00:11:21,159 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, but I don't think it was. I want 240 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,480 to see a different starting lineup without Norm. I don't 241 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:28,600 think he's going to take normal the starting lineup. 242 00:11:28,759 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 1: You can't now the offense is too bad, just not 243 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:33,960 to put two fight a point on it, to not 244 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:35,159 have no just like. 245 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 2: With what this team has struggled with, like why you know, 246 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:41,960 why give yourself any additional hurdles. 247 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:44,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, he started all year. That's we talk about locker 248 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:48,279 room management. Having to tell Norm that he's just not 249 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:53,159 starting after the first three quarters of the season he had, 250 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:57,240 I think would maybe make things more difficult off court wise. 251 00:11:57,279 --> 00:11:59,159 Not that Norm's like a bad locker room guy, but 252 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,039 that's a tough us with for a guy whose whole 253 00:12:02,039 --> 00:12:03,600 thing is like I need to prove that I'm a 254 00:12:03,639 --> 00:12:06,120 starter in an All Star to then get your All 255 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:09,519 Star appearance and then be told you're actually on the bench. 256 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:13,879 That would just be tough vibe maneuvering wise. 257 00:12:15,519 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree. 258 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 3: Hey, we were all backing you about that All Star 259 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:24,200 right now. Yeah, I don't know, six man. 260 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,759 Speaker 1: So what are our dreams and nightmares for this four 261 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:30,840 game stretch? And we're gonna preview the Cows game of 262 00:12:30,879 --> 00:12:34,879 the next segment, what's your dream? Obviously the dream record 263 00:12:34,919 --> 00:12:38,639 is four and No, I'm happy with two and two. 264 00:12:39,519 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 2: Oh, I think two and two would be pretty great 265 00:12:42,279 --> 00:12:43,320 over this stretch. 266 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:46,159 Speaker 1: Because there's no back to back. Yeah, I'm double checking, 267 00:12:46,159 --> 00:12:47,840 but I don't believe there's a back. It's all fairly 268 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:50,919 spaced out. Clips play Tomorrow, then they play Friday, Sunday, 269 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:54,759 and then Wednesday, So it's not I mean, it's pretty 270 00:12:54,799 --> 00:12:58,320 solid schedule wise in the lens of the Clippers schedule 271 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:00,879 this season. Out of how would you feel it two 272 00:13:00,879 --> 00:13:01,200 and two? 273 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:03,799 Speaker 4: I'd be good with it. 274 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 3: I'd love to know who they got the two victories against. 275 00:13:06,639 --> 00:13:08,919 Speaker 4: Like, if it was two and two and they beat 276 00:13:09,159 --> 00:13:11,399 Okay C in Cleveland, I feel real good. 277 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, yeah, because I'm not. 278 00:13:13,399 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 3: As worried about Memphis even if they lost that game, 279 00:13:15,639 --> 00:13:17,879 and be like, I feel good about that matchup and 280 00:13:17,919 --> 00:13:21,159 they've beat them twice already. Uh, the Knicks are in 281 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,639 the Eastern Conference, and it's not as much of a 282 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:26,120 measuring stick contest like it will be tomorrow night against 283 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:29,000 the Cavaliers and they beat them. 284 00:13:30,399 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 2: No, like no Brunson, I feel like that'd be kind 285 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:35,840 of a bad loss against the next. 286 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 4: Yeah. 287 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 2: I don't know. 288 00:13:40,279 --> 00:13:43,159 Speaker 3: I don't know if a realistic dream is an oxy moron, 289 00:13:43,279 --> 00:13:48,360 but three and one feels like realistic dream with one 290 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:53,399 of those victories being over Okay See or over Cleveland. 291 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 1: Which would be huge. 292 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 2: I mean that, Yeah, that would be insane. 293 00:13:57,399 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 4: Is the better one? Right? If you beat the Thunder 294 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:01,720 in a seven game series? 295 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, of course the Calves game feels well, they went. 296 00:14:04,919 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 2: One to three, but beat the Thunder. I mean, I'd 297 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,440 still have a very different tone about how this whole. 298 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good call because the Calves game, to me, 299 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:17,240 schedule wise, rotation wise, I feel the most confident about 300 00:14:17,279 --> 00:14:19,360 because we just I know for a fact that the 301 00:14:19,399 --> 00:14:23,039 four rotation is available tomorrow night, not entirely sure what 302 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:26,159 the rotation will look like for Grizzlies, and then the 303 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:29,320 Thunder being the third game, winning that game, well, I 304 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:31,519 like that point, if they if they win the Thunder game, 305 00:14:31,559 --> 00:14:34,840 it's the third of this stretch, that would feel pretty good. 306 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:36,679 Speaker 2: Kind of house money, I mean, like it's house money 307 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:37,279 at that point. 308 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:39,799 Speaker 1: Which and if the process is good, if they go 309 00:14:39,919 --> 00:14:42,960 one and three beat the Thunder with good process, I'm like, well, 310 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:46,840 you lost to a Calves team that is unbelievable as 311 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:49,679 a juggernaut right now, and then yeah, if the play, 312 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:51,200 if the process. 313 00:14:50,879 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 2: Was like the magic beat them this month? 314 00:14:53,919 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: Is that it? Yeah? They're twelve and ons stay All 315 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:06,279 Star break, so they're they're playing some good ball. What 316 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:10,039 are our nightmares? Just one quick nightmare from each for 317 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:14,120 this stretch and obviously not no injury. Yeah, just for 318 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:16,240 the listeners, we don't ever talk about that in terms 319 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:18,639 of like what's the best thing that can happen everyone's 320 00:15:18,799 --> 00:15:22,240 of course that's what we all hope for. Anyway, Well, 321 00:15:22,279 --> 00:15:25,360 what's what's a nightmare you have from this stretch? We 322 00:15:25,399 --> 00:15:27,960 talked realistic dreams? What's a realistic nightmare? 323 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 2: One in three with some hard fought, like heavy minutes losses, 324 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:39,360 not even blowouts losses, where like we we get maybe 325 00:15:39,399 --> 00:15:42,039 some bench minutes or we get some rest minutes for 326 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:47,080 Kawhi and Harden and norm can have like an easier thing, 327 00:15:47,279 --> 00:15:51,840 you know, an easier ramp in if you know, maybe 328 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:53,960 things get a little out of hand and they they 329 00:15:54,039 --> 00:15:56,080 put some of the young guns in there. I think 330 00:15:56,440 --> 00:16:00,679 one in three with all four games going down to 331 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,480 the wire with heavy minutes from all the rotation, guys, 332 00:16:03,559 --> 00:16:05,960 is my nightmare is an area. 333 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 3: Okay think for me, that would be tough if they 334 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:15,919 find themselves down twenty twenty five in both games to 335 00:16:16,039 --> 00:16:18,559 Okay see it to Cleveland. It just looks like they're 336 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:21,240 completely outmatched and they're so far out of their league 337 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:25,519 that the idea of hey, healthy Kawhi get into a 338 00:16:25,559 --> 00:16:28,120 seven game series you never know what can happen. 339 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:31,559 Speaker 4: Just totally gets curb stomped. That would that would be 340 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:32,159 a nightmare. 341 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:35,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the overmatched is a great call, Like 342 00:16:36,039 --> 00:16:40,039 just looking like out of their depth. Tomorrow is gonna 343 00:16:40,039 --> 00:16:42,320 be huge. I think Tomorrow's really gonna set the tone 344 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:44,080 because there's no way that the team's not talking about 345 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:47,279 this difficult stretch like this is. Tomorrow's a really big 346 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:49,840 tone setting game. If they lose Tomorrow with like you 347 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:52,039 you know, they don't look completely over their head or 348 00:16:52,039 --> 00:16:54,440 in front of their skis. You feel pretty good about it. 349 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:56,360 It's a really good team. They're playing well. 350 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:58,519 Speaker 2: Just like with how up and down they've been, this 351 00:16:58,639 --> 00:17:00,720 is like, you know, an opportunity unity for a real 352 00:17:00,759 --> 00:17:03,600 litmus test. And even if you go two and two 353 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,960 in like a competitive set of games, I wouldn't see 354 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:09,400 that as being as up and down as you know, 355 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,000 the rest of the post All Star Break has been 356 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:16,960 for the for the Clippers. So yeah, I mean it's 357 00:17:17,039 --> 00:17:19,079 not necessarily make or break, but I do think it's 358 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,880 a sort of a mission statement for where they're actually 359 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:27,480 at right now and what what realistically the the postseason 360 00:17:27,519 --> 00:17:30,519 expectations could be. Sure not to put too much pressure 361 00:17:30,519 --> 00:17:32,680 on it. At the same time, you know, it's not 362 00:17:32,759 --> 00:17:33,400 an indictment. 363 00:17:33,519 --> 00:17:35,039 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's time to put it. It's the 364 00:17:35,079 --> 00:17:39,400 proven session. Okay. So the Clippers sit at eight. They're 365 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:41,640 one and a half games behind the Warriors of the Wolves. 366 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:45,680 If the Wolves catch the Dubs and the record wise 367 00:17:46,599 --> 00:17:49,279 we are ahead of the Dubs there, so we would 368 00:17:49,319 --> 00:17:53,240 still be the seven. There are four games up on 369 00:17:53,319 --> 00:17:56,839 the Kings. How are we worried about the Kings at all? 370 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,839 I feel like I thought the Suns MAVs and k 371 00:18:00,279 --> 00:18:02,640 I'm like, Okay, we're not worried about you. We're just 372 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:04,200 worried about trying to get that seventh seed. 373 00:18:04,279 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 3: Allright, you worry about them if you lose that seven 374 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:08,920 eight matchup and then you have to play them or 375 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,160 the Phoenix Suns just to be the A seed. But 376 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,599 I'm not worried about the Kings catching them. I think 377 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:16,839 at worse, the Clippers are going to be eighth. I 378 00:18:16,839 --> 00:18:18,119 think they're pretty solid there. 379 00:18:18,319 --> 00:18:20,599 Speaker 1: I think that the Straations are locked in. I think 380 00:18:20,599 --> 00:18:22,279 you're right. Will you worried about any of the teams 381 00:18:22,319 --> 00:18:23,240 behind the Clippers? 382 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 2: No, No, not at the moment. 383 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:30,519 Speaker 1: Yeah. So now it's just hoping that they either finished 384 00:18:30,559 --> 00:18:32,920 with a better record than the Warriors or the same 385 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:33,960 record as the Warriors. 386 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:35,839 Speaker 2: Do you want them to stay in the play in 387 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:36,960 at this point? 388 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:40,400 Speaker 1: I don't know, because if they make the play if 389 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:43,039 they get to if they get up, that means they're 390 00:18:43,079 --> 00:18:47,000 just like rolling. So yeah, with so little time left, 391 00:18:47,039 --> 00:18:48,640 I mean, it'd be awesome if they were good enough 392 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:51,559 to somehow roll into a playoff spot. I would be 393 00:18:51,559 --> 00:18:54,799 a little worried about fatigue and gas maybe, but that 394 00:18:54,839 --> 00:18:57,079 would mean they were playing really good basketball ahead of 395 00:18:57,119 --> 00:19:00,200 the playoffs. Yeah, like really good basketball. 396 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, they'd have to go like eleven and three the 397 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:05,599 final fourteen games, I think to get the six flat 398 00:19:05,599 --> 00:19:06,400 at this point. 399 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,559 Speaker 4: I think a lot of Murray put out a sweet 400 00:19:08,599 --> 00:19:09,079 about that. 401 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 3: And by the way, they'd still probably need help because 402 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:18,279 and the Timberwolves are refusing to lose right now. 403 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, I would feel pretty good if they 404 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,839 went if that happened, because that means they went eleven 405 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:25,319 in the three. 406 00:19:25,839 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 3: Or if if their reward though, was the six to 407 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:31,920 three matchup against Denver in the first round, I'd be like, 408 00:19:33,559 --> 00:19:37,680 I don't know, And and Memphis ends up the two 409 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:39,759 where the Rockets end up at the two, and it's like, damn, 410 00:19:39,799 --> 00:19:42,000 if we got seven and eight and we won that game, 411 00:19:42,079 --> 00:19:44,160 we'd get a team we could definitely beat in the 412 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:44,759 first round. 413 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:46,519 Speaker 1: The extra game is a variable. 414 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,640 Speaker 3: So yeah, going to Minnesota in a play in has 415 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:50,839 not worked out in the past for the. 416 00:19:50,759 --> 00:19:55,400 Speaker 1: Clippers, terrifyingly true. Coming up, we're doing a quick Clippers 417 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:57,559 Caves preview and then we send people on their way. 418 00:19:57,759 --> 00:19:59,359 If you're listening to us on the audio, there's gonna 419 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:01,160 be a quick audio break. If you'd like to watch 420 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,920 us on YouTube see our shining faces. Check us out 421 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:07,240 at YouTube dot called at Clippers Podcast, Calves and Clips 422 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:08,920 preview coming up in three two. 423 00:20:09,319 --> 00:20:13,079 Speaker 2: What all right? Welcome back into Clips and we just 424 00:20:13,079 --> 00:20:15,680 sort of previewed the tough stretch coming up with the 425 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:19,000 Clippers kicking things off with a game against the just 426 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:24,319 perpetually streaking Cleveland Cavaliers, Summer saying it's their year. I 427 00:20:24,559 --> 00:20:26,880 don't know about I don't know about that, but one 428 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:29,559 like one thing in the Clippers corner, which has been 429 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:33,039 a luxury, especially as of laid pretty clean bill of 430 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:37,200 health for the Clippers, which is which is good. Evan 431 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:42,000 Mobley missed the last game, but he's considered day today. Charles. 432 00:20:42,039 --> 00:20:44,279 What do we gotta watch out for from this Cavs team? 433 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:49,640 Speaker 1: A lot? They have the second best net rating since 434 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,039 the All Star Break, they have the best defensive rating, 435 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,799 they have the fourth best offensive rating their fourth and 436 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:59,839 rebound percentage. They're very good at offensive rebounding. I don't know, 437 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,519 there's it's kind of a lot to worry about from 438 00:21:02,559 --> 00:21:06,880 this Calves team. The Clippers, however, are slightly better at 439 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,319 defensive rebounding percentage, and this is just stats since the 440 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:12,720 All Star break, and we're shooting almost two percent better 441 00:21:12,759 --> 00:21:15,279 from the floor. So don't let us get hot or 442 00:21:15,319 --> 00:21:18,240 the Clippers might run away with this one. No, the 443 00:21:18,279 --> 00:21:21,279 Calves are, like I said, they're just They're a juggernaut. 444 00:21:21,759 --> 00:21:26,720 They're rolling. I don't know, this is the toughest matchup 445 00:21:26,759 --> 00:21:30,839 of the year on paper. It feels like is that wrong, Adam? No? 446 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:38,039 Speaker 4: Until they face Okay, see on Sunday. Yeah later there. 447 00:21:38,599 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 3: I said this earlier to a Calves guy, Bobsman, who 448 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:44,720 came out with me. Is it fair to say that 449 00:21:44,759 --> 00:21:47,599 they're really talented? But the whole is still also greater 450 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,480 than some of its parts With this Calves team, they're 451 00:21:50,519 --> 00:21:53,559 talented individuals on this team, and they also all the 452 00:21:53,599 --> 00:21:57,160 pieces fit and they elevate each other, and that's how 453 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,759 you have an historic season like this. In the regular season, 454 00:21:59,799 --> 00:22:02,440 and they've had multiple I think I think they've had 455 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:06,039 two fifteen game winning streaks and they just had one 456 00:22:06,079 --> 00:22:09,519 stop losing that game to Orlando. And I don't know 457 00:22:09,559 --> 00:22:11,519 if there's enough games left to start another one. 458 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: But I mean playoffs. 459 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, Evan Wibley is questionable. I'm guessing he's gonna play. 460 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 1: Because the Magic game was a second out of a 461 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,240 back to back for them, right, I. 462 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,880 Speaker 3: Think so, Yeah, because they just played Memphis and beat them. Yeah, 463 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:31,440 but they don't have many weaknesses. They went ten to 464 00:22:31,559 --> 00:22:36,240 forty from three against Orlando. That's like the real reason 465 00:22:36,279 --> 00:22:38,799 they lost that game. Orlando just shot it better from 466 00:22:38,799 --> 00:22:41,640 three than Cleveland. And I will say this, for all 467 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:43,720 the bad numbers that were going up against the Clippers 468 00:22:43,759 --> 00:22:46,440 when it came to opponent three point percentage over the 469 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,960 last seven games, opponents are only shooting thirty one point 470 00:22:50,079 --> 00:22:53,640 six percent from three now against the Clippers, that would 471 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:55,759 be the lowest percentage in the league over the last 472 00:22:55,799 --> 00:22:58,799 seven games. And that's including the Pelicans game. 473 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, which was one of the lowest percentage games in 474 00:23:02,759 --> 00:23:07,599 the league. Weird was turned a weird thing I noticed. 475 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:09,960 I was looking at their lineup stats since the All 476 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:13,200 Star Break. Their most played lineup since the All Star 477 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:17,759 Break is Mitchell, Garland, Struce, Mobley and Allen It's minus 478 00:23:17,839 --> 00:23:20,200 thirty four minutes, thirty four and sixty five minutes. 479 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:24,640 Speaker 4: Sixty five minutes. That's it. 480 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh wow, since the All Star Break, I have heard. 481 00:23:29,279 --> 00:23:31,880 Speaker 3: While they won sixteenth straight, it was like their least 482 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,599 impressive big winning streak of the season. When you go 483 00:23:34,599 --> 00:23:37,839 into the details of it, they're not peaking right now. 484 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:41,640 They have played a better chunk of sustay in great basketball. 485 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 1: Right. Yeah. If this is I would love to be 486 00:23:43,759 --> 00:23:46,640 on a team where the version of not peaking is 487 00:23:46,759 --> 00:23:51,319 being twelve and one since the All Star break. Well, 488 00:23:51,319 --> 00:23:53,680 what are you looking for to break down this Cavs defense? 489 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,720 Because they have length, they have foot speed, they can 490 00:23:56,759 --> 00:24:00,400 all guard different positions like this is what where? What's 491 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,400 the starting lineup? I think of this one has to 492 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,920 have DJ They're a big ass team. 493 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, they are a big ass team. Yeah. And defensively, 494 00:24:10,079 --> 00:24:12,519 I guess, you know, try to get try to get 495 00:24:12,519 --> 00:24:15,319 Mitchell involved in as much of the action as as 496 00:24:15,319 --> 00:24:22,279 you can on the defensive end and right and you know, 497 00:24:22,319 --> 00:24:24,880 he still has presented problems. He is, though, an opponent 498 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:28,200 that the Clippers are really familiar with have given really 499 00:24:28,599 --> 00:24:34,400 a difficult time in big game. So it's anything new. 500 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:38,039 But the as the ecotomy is really interesting because the 501 00:24:38,079 --> 00:24:40,839 front feels so much bigger. Obviously Alan too, I mean 502 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:44,759 it's it's it's a watch, but it feels so much bigger. 503 00:24:45,559 --> 00:24:47,920 But then there's there's some less size in the backcourt 504 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:53,559 and less switch ability, certainly for for Garland, Uh and 505 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:57,759 Uh and Mitchell and than like even Harden or I 506 00:24:57,759 --> 00:25:00,519 mean to a certain degree, even someone like Norm not 507 00:25:00,559 --> 00:25:01,920 going to go on a limon and say it. Norman 508 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,480 is a great defender, but he has been a dogged 509 00:25:04,599 --> 00:25:06,799 defender when healthy this season. 510 00:25:09,599 --> 00:25:14,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's he's committed to defending. He is 511 00:25:14,799 --> 00:25:19,079 not gett he's not putting it aside as some gas 512 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,160 can do. Adam, what are you looking for to break 513 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:21,960 down this defense? 514 00:25:23,279 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 4: And Garland is their weak link on that end. 515 00:25:26,559 --> 00:25:31,279 Speaker 3: He's undersized, but he does play hard defensively. It's you know, 516 00:25:31,319 --> 00:25:34,160 there aren't a lot of great options. They're really good there. 517 00:25:36,759 --> 00:25:39,640 I think James Harden will do some matchup hunting trying 518 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,279 to get Darius Garland on him for some of those 519 00:25:42,279 --> 00:25:46,640 step back threes. And I think this is a big 520 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,599 not just prove it type week for the Clippers, but 521 00:25:49,759 --> 00:25:52,799 like a prove it game also individually for Visa Zubats 522 00:25:52,839 --> 00:25:56,160 for some people. Even though he has dominated some really 523 00:25:56,160 --> 00:26:00,240 good traditional Rimp protectors like Triple J and Anthony Davis. 524 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,799 Speaker 1: And double teams, like, it's not just one on one stuff. Sorry, 525 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:05,799 I'm fired up when people don't respect Zoo. 526 00:26:06,079 --> 00:26:09,559 Speaker 3: No, it's like low level national narrative. People are going 527 00:26:09,599 --> 00:26:12,480 to put a lot into this game for vitza Zoo boss, 528 00:26:12,559 --> 00:26:15,960 I'm sure because if they both play with Evan Mobley 529 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,000 and Jared Allen, it's a different type of challenge totally. 530 00:26:19,079 --> 00:26:21,559 Speaker 1: Yeah. The thing that gets me in this one is 531 00:26:21,599 --> 00:26:25,440 the Cavs have a really productive bench scoring wise. It's 532 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:29,680 the eighth best bench scoring bench in the league. We're 533 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:36,599 gonna need the Bogey Simmons done crew to be locked 534 00:26:36,599 --> 00:26:40,519 in tomorrow night because the bench starting lineup, you know, 535 00:26:40,559 --> 00:26:44,000 it's very difficult. But the bench, I think, is going 536 00:26:44,039 --> 00:26:45,559 to have to make up some ground at some point, 537 00:26:45,559 --> 00:26:47,440 which has been difficult for the Clippers this year. But 538 00:26:47,559 --> 00:26:49,759 if we see some of this mixing and matching from Tyloo, 539 00:26:49,759 --> 00:26:52,240 maybe we stumble on something with a small ball five 540 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:52,960 that ends up working. 541 00:26:55,279 --> 00:27:00,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, they Bogey's been playing better. I think a mirror 542 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,480 overall has when playing a little bit better. Those real 543 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:07,359 bench low points we had recently, seems like maybe they've 544 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:11,440 turned a corner and having Ben Simmons back definitely helps. 545 00:27:11,799 --> 00:27:13,400 Speaker 4: I don't I'm. 546 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 3: Interested to see is you Banks gonna play at all. 547 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,279 If the Cavs have Jared Allen and Evan Mobley, is 548 00:27:19,279 --> 00:27:21,599 that a game you still play U Banks in? Or 549 00:27:21,599 --> 00:27:23,880 are they just completely gonna go away from him? For 550 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,119 Ben Simmons, Now, I think. 551 00:27:26,079 --> 00:27:31,319 Speaker 1: Historically, even when we've had no disrespect terrible backup centers, 552 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,839 we've still seen some backup center minutes just I think 553 00:27:34,839 --> 00:27:37,680 to spell some guys. So I think it depends on 554 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:42,000 how much. I mean, it won't be significant if Drew 555 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:43,599 Ebanks you know what I mean, Like, we're not gonna 556 00:27:43,599 --> 00:27:47,880 see like ten minutes of Drew U Banks, which I 557 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,720 guess is like is he even playing then? But I 558 00:27:50,759 --> 00:27:54,200 think they'll I don't think he plays meaningful minutes, but 559 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:58,400 he might spell. I don't know, Will where are you at? 560 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,839 You're a big Drew you Banks' upset he doesn't get 561 00:28:00,839 --> 00:28:05,680 more minutes your banks Let's go. Yeah, I don't know. 562 00:28:05,759 --> 00:28:07,519 I think it's gonna be all smallball because that's what we're 563 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,359 gonna see in the playoffs. Ubanks isn't playing in the 564 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:13,200 playoffs the real lineups we need to take minutes. 565 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it just depends on that. It just 566 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,480 depends on Ben Simmons's health and how how many s 567 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,359 the tune looks in his minutes out there? 568 00:28:20,839 --> 00:28:23,079 Speaker 1: Do they have to maybe be conscious of playing Ubanks 569 00:28:23,079 --> 00:28:24,480 more because of Ben Simmons's health. 570 00:28:27,319 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 2: I don't know. We just heard so little about that 571 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:33,880 injury and he was what set like seven straight games, Like, yeah, 572 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,400 that's true. It's weird to not get any whatever. I 573 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,079 don't I don't even want to get into it because 574 00:28:38,119 --> 00:28:40,319 we'll be here all day, but it is. I just 575 00:28:40,359 --> 00:28:41,960 feel like it's weird for a play in this that 576 00:28:42,039 --> 00:28:44,240 much time and not get any sort of significant update. 577 00:28:44,799 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 3: I think it would be a big, big feather in 578 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,720 the cap for the second unit if they could go 579 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,240 small with Ben Simmons and have some success against a 580 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:53,559 big team like Cleveland. 581 00:28:54,119 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 4: I think that would really help moving forward. 582 00:28:58,319 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it also like maybe the Ben Simmons line 583 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,920 up isn't working right. Maybe the Cavs just punish the 584 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,759 small ball lineup, because again we're kind of seeing like 585 00:29:07,799 --> 00:29:09,880 where does this Clippers team stack up, or they gonna 586 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,319 be overwhelmed just from a better team because that's small 587 00:29:13,359 --> 00:29:16,200 ball lineup. It's not like it's been tested against the 588 00:29:16,279 --> 00:29:18,079 defense like this for a minute. 589 00:29:18,119 --> 00:29:22,079 Speaker 2: I mean, well, Ben Simmons isn't a stranger to Allen. 590 00:29:22,599 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 1: That's true, It's got the familiarity. 591 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 3: And a lot of this is can we bleed the 592 00:29:29,079 --> 00:29:32,160 minute slower? You know, not lose them by as much 593 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:36,200 as we would lose them with you bays like, well, 594 00:29:36,319 --> 00:29:40,039 not be able to win those minutes by a significant margin. 595 00:29:40,119 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 4: But if you could just tread water. 596 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that well, that's yeah, the treadding. If 597 00:29:45,119 --> 00:29:48,920 we can tread water, that would be great. And then 598 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,920 real quick, defensively, what's one thing you're looking for, Adam. 599 00:29:54,839 --> 00:29:57,039 Speaker 4: Oh? How much? 600 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,759 Speaker 3: Because I think Kawhi the last two games obviously have 601 00:29:59,759 --> 00:30:03,279 been best defensive games. The last two you could say 602 00:30:03,279 --> 00:30:06,000 it's Charlotte last night, but his effort was really good. 603 00:30:06,079 --> 00:30:07,759 Speaker 4: He had some good low man moments. 604 00:30:09,559 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 3: I thought he was really good against Atlanta, specifically with 605 00:30:14,359 --> 00:30:16,680 jumping some of those screens they were trying to set 606 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,960 for Trey Young and being disruptive there. I just want 607 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,559 to see how much do we see him on Mitchell 608 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,880 in Garland or they're just gonna hide him on Max 609 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,839 Strus until later in the game, Like, where where's Kawhi 610 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:35,279 at level wise? With his recent defensive play and if 611 00:30:35,279 --> 00:30:36,039 that continues? 612 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: Good call? Will one defensive thing you want to see 613 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:43,720 from the clips I have look a little nitpicky, but 614 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:45,720 you have one that's a little nitpicky. 615 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:52,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's let's let's hold a team to uh their 616 00:30:52,359 --> 00:30:55,079 average or below three point shooting PERCINGE. 617 00:30:55,240 --> 00:31:01,279 Speaker 1: Okay, big ask? I think it's fair, Adam. 618 00:31:01,599 --> 00:31:03,759 Speaker 2: I mean I believe correct me if I'm wrong. I 619 00:31:03,799 --> 00:31:06,039 believe that these averages are starting to work out in 620 00:31:06,079 --> 00:31:06,519 our favor. 621 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 4: Thirty one last seven games a point my school. 622 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 1: I hope that continues. I'm looking kind of what you're 623 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,759 talking about bench defense. What what are teams going to 624 00:31:18,799 --> 00:31:21,079 look like when Bogdanovich is on the floor with Kristun 625 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,359 and Ben Simmons. How is that going to work out? 626 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,440 The communication is going to have to be on point 627 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,119 because Bogie is going to be the target, obviously. So 628 00:31:28,119 --> 00:31:30,119 I'm interested to see what the bench defense looks like 629 00:31:30,559 --> 00:31:33,799 and if it can hold up. Be that slightly being 630 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:40,319 undertowed or just treading water not that fun. But if 631 00:31:40,359 --> 00:31:43,079 you like bench defense, holler at me all right. Player 632 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,599 the game picks for the toughest game so far, we 633 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:51,720 cannot pick Norm Powell, James Harden, Kawhi Leonard or Viatsa 634 00:31:51,799 --> 00:31:56,480 Zubos so not a whole lot of other options, and PJ. 635 00:31:56,559 --> 00:31:59,799 Tucker plays for the Knicks. Now, So, Adam, who is 636 00:31:59,839 --> 00:32:03,160 your or player of the game pick for Clippers versus Calves. 637 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,039 Speaker 3: Give me the guy who has been shooting I think 638 00:32:07,079 --> 00:32:10,839 fifty one from three in the month of March, Nico 639 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:15,640 Patoom for a little added size against the big Cavaliers team. 640 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:19,400 I'm sorry, Nico is now fifty three. Come on in 641 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:20,319 the month of March. 642 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 4: Give me Nico for that defensive versatility. 643 00:32:25,559 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 2: I love it. Will your pick, I'm gonna go with Bogue. Damn, 644 00:32:35,079 --> 00:32:38,400 I'm gonna go with Bogeye. I like this pick up 645 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,319 and play that we've been seeing. I'm hoping that against 646 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:45,640 this cast team he has it going offensively, because yeah, defensively, 647 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,319 it's it's gonna be a bit of a sieve, and 648 00:32:47,359 --> 00:32:50,200 I think when he's out there with Harden, it's just 649 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,400 a lot to ask with Harden. So I'm hoping that 650 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,319 Boge shows up and shows up big and he'll have 651 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,480 earned my Player of the Game. If so, I think 652 00:32:57,519 --> 00:32:58,759 the Clippers get the dumb. 653 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say Bogue because if Bogie scores 654 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,559 fifteen efficiently. I think things are going pretty well for 655 00:33:04,599 --> 00:33:05,160 the Clippers. 656 00:33:05,559 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 2: Well yeah, and he can offset the other hand, he. 657 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 1: Can offset the other end two but not anything crazy. 658 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 4: What if Nico starts? 659 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 1: I have too many You've put too many questions about 660 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,519 the starting lineup in my head. I can't put another 661 00:33:18,559 --> 00:33:19,079 one in there. 662 00:33:19,279 --> 00:33:24,559 Speaker 3: I'm just thinking, now if we trade back, put him 663 00:33:24,599 --> 00:33:25,519 in the starting lineup. 664 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:27,519 Speaker 1: So you're going, what's the starting line. 665 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:34,519 Speaker 3: Up with Nico's hardened norm Kawhi Nico Zoo. 666 00:33:35,279 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 1: I don't know about it. 667 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:37,279 Speaker 4: That just because if they. 668 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 3: Have Evan Mobile, if they have their twin towers, like, 669 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,000 maybe this is a game where it makes sense if 670 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,039 he does the matchup thing, why not Nico against the 671 00:33:45,039 --> 00:33:46,119 Calves if they're this big. 672 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 1: You're just trying to gass up your player on the 673 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:49,160 game pick. But I respect it. 674 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,559 Speaker 4: Maybe so maybe you're on to me. 675 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 2: Yea, if he does storry, he has to put up 676 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:57,680 starter numbers for your pick to. 677 00:33:57,759 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 1: It, then yeah, he's gotta put up twenty three. All right, 678 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:08,800 I'm gonna go. I mean Ben Simmons, because let's go. 679 00:34:10,559 --> 00:34:12,280 There's gonna be a focus on this game of what 680 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,880 he looks like against as the backup five being the 681 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,679 release valve, the small small pick and roll or whatever 682 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,920 it is with Bogie sharing like that, it's gonna be 683 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:23,760 there's a proven game for everything. But this is a 684 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,159 big prove it game for the Ben Simmons as the 685 00:34:26,199 --> 00:34:30,239 small Ball five agenda, which obviously has a lot of steam. 686 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,159 But that's that's where I hope If he has a 687 00:34:32,199 --> 00:34:33,599 good game, I think things are going well for the 688 00:34:33,639 --> 00:34:37,320 Clippers because he means he's passing, he's cutting, and he's 689 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:43,559 grabbing boards. Yeah, we will see, We will see. We're 690 00:34:43,559 --> 00:34:46,480 gonna be back on Wednesday with a pod for y'all. 691 00:34:46,519 --> 00:34:49,079 We're all gonna be in the building tomorrow for the 692 00:34:49,119 --> 00:34:51,519 Cavs game. It should be a good time. So if 693 00:34:51,559 --> 00:34:53,039 you see us, say what's up. Shout out to the 694 00:34:53,039 --> 00:34:55,440 two people I met at labre A Tarpits this weekend 695 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,440 who are fans of clips and thank you for listening. 696 00:34:58,039 --> 00:35:02,679 Will where can people band that they're public le elected 697 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,079 officials listen to and review this podcast? 698 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, you can check out this podcast wherever you give 699 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,440 you podcasts. If you happen to listen over on Apple 700 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,800 Podcasts or Spotify, go ahead, leave a little rating and review. 701 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,239 It helps us out. The best place to check out 702 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,400 this podcast and you can tell your elected official that 703 00:35:18,599 --> 00:35:23,239 is at YouTube dot com slash at Clippers Podcasts. Yeah, 704 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,599 please subscribe over there. You get notified when we put 705 00:35:26,599 --> 00:35:28,920 out new stuff. You can come chime in on the 706 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,440 lives that we do sometime after games. I mean, who knows, 707 00:35:33,199 --> 00:35:34,920 who knows how much if they get this one over 708 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:39,639 the Cats? Who knows what happen that's all same. But 709 00:35:39,679 --> 00:35:41,920 however you check out this show, you know we appreciate you. 710 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,360 Speaker 1: We very much do addam one positive thing to send 711 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:49,440 these Clippers fans on their weirdly bitchy and rainy Monday 712 00:35:49,559 --> 00:35:51,920 night ahead of the Caps game. 713 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,800 Speaker 3: Clippers with a longer wading streak than the Cavaliers heading 714 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:56,599 into this matchef. 715 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:03,760 Speaker 5: Okay, there's this close to winning seven games in a 716 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:07,079 row if it wasn't for that little shooting performance by 717 00:36:07,079 --> 00:36:09,159 the Pelicans, who have fallen off a cliff in that 718 00:36:09,199 --> 00:36:12,000 area since they did that to the Clippers. 719 00:36:12,079 --> 00:36:13,280 Speaker 4: It's gonna be an interesting week. 720 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,039 Speaker 3: We're gonna find out a lot about this team, and 721 00:36:15,039 --> 00:36:17,400 I'm looking forward to it is a prove it week. 722 00:36:17,519 --> 00:36:20,800 Speaker 4: It's a measuring stick week for the Clippers. So it's 723 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:21,239 going to be. 724 00:36:21,159 --> 00:36:25,679 Speaker 3: Fun and like Chuck said earlier, the level of competition 725 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,360 with the way the schedule is right now, with a 726 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,960 couple of days off between some of these games, it 727 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,440 gives the Clippers a real opportunity to try to make 728 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,719 some noise here where it's not a built in excuse. 729 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,840 Speaker 4: Game if you lose. We're going to find some things 730 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:43,039 out about this team. 731 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,519 Speaker 2: The journey to eleven and three starts. Yeah. 732 00:36:46,679 --> 00:36:50,480 Speaker 1: Will, Will's footing it, Will's playing the flag. Thank man 733 00:36:50,559 --> 00:36:53,360 for listening. We will be back Wednesday, and as always, 734 00:36:53,559 --> 00:36:54,360 let's go Clips.