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<v Speaker 1>Callaroga Shark Media, Hello Jenny Mack On Your Daily Comedy News.

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<v Speaker 1>John mulaney told GQ, I can really be setting my

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<v Speaker 1>ways in some ways, but I'm very good at major transformations.

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<v Speaker 1>At Georgetown, he joined an improv group with Nick Kroll

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<v Speaker 1>and Mike Probiglia, but said I had erratic work habits.

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<v Speaker 1>I was very disorganized in a sense. I was always ambitious,

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<v Speaker 1>but I wasn't like I'm going to direct every play

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<v Speaker 1>in high school. I wasn't all over it in any way.

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<v Speaker 1>He got to New York at age twenty three and

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<v Speaker 1>said I hit the ground running. It was all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden, this total focus and drive to do as

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<v Speaker 1>much stand up as possible. I didn't drink alcohol anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't take any drugs. I was just totally dedicated

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<v Speaker 1>to one thing, kind of monastically, and it was awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>GQ analyzed his style and they nailed it here. They wrote,

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<v Speaker 1>He's expert at landing an audience deep into the thicket

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<v Speaker 1>of a joke set up and then pausing just long

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<v Speaker 1>enough to allow them to arrive at the punchline right

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<v Speaker 1>before he does. When it works best, a single word

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<v Speaker 1>detonates like a bomb. Seth Meyer says sense to the audience,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in control. I'm not particularly interested in which of

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<v Speaker 1>these jokes you like and which you don't. No matter

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<v Speaker 1>what happens, I'm going to be having a very good time.

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<v Speaker 1>Jim Jefferies told review dot Com. When I moved over

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<v Speaker 1>to America, there was this sort of myth that I

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<v Speaker 1>was only funny because I said the C word and

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<v Speaker 1>because of my accent. But I sold more tickets in

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<v Speaker 1>Australia where they weren't fascinated by my accent and the slightest.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's just good to see you can entertain people

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<v Speaker 1>all over the world. It used to be to go

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<v Speaker 1>to a country several times to try and break a country.

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<v Speaker 1>When I came to America, arguably they'd only been a

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<v Speaker 1>handful of comedians from overseas that ever broke America before that.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you know about a whole heap of different comics

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<v Speaker 1>from all over the world because you've seen their specials.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not on TikTok, so I'm a bit of dinosaur

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<v Speaker 1>in that regard. I don't think my comedy plays out

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<v Speaker 1>well on TikTok. I think part of the problem with

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<v Speaker 1>TikTok is that we're seeing comedy in short form. Amen,

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<v Speaker 1>So the long winded stories are the things that loop

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<v Speaker 1>around in the callbacks and the shows being a show,

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<v Speaker 1>we're sort of losing that nuance yep. In the same

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<v Speaker 1>way that people don't listen to albums anymore, they're just

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<v Speaker 1>listening to individual songs. They don't listen to albums as

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<v Speaker 1>they're meant to be played out as the artists set

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<v Speaker 1>it up to be heard. And I think that sort

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<v Speaker 1>of happened to comedy as well. Yep. High five standing

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<v Speaker 1>oh for me On that comment, crack dot Com asked

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony Jelsink about being an actor. He said, I would

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy it because I enjoy the camaraderie. Stand up's all

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<v Speaker 1>on your own. With acting, you're working with people. I

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<v Speaker 1>like that. I'm just not asked to do it very often,

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<v Speaker 1>and frankly, I'm surprised I'm not asked. I'm a good

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<v Speaker 1>looking guy. I have a very distinctive voice that I

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<v Speaker 1>think they would use me in voice stuff. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think at some point people will start asking me. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm spoiler. As a comic, I see comics who are

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<v Speaker 1>making huge movies and I talked to them afterwards, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're like, I lost money. If I just toured the

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<v Speaker 1>whole time I was doing this movie, I would have

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<v Speaker 1>done much better. It's not something I feel like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>missing out on and I'm not that good. The interesting

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<v Speaker 1>character is I wouldn't be able to play. I'd be thinking, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>someone else should be doing this, and that's a bad

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<v Speaker 1>thing for an actor to be thinking. Cracked asked about

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony's current hair style, Cracks observation, the older spike eer

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<v Speaker 1>haircut seemed more in keeping with a villain. Now your

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<v Speaker 1>hair is a little softer, not as threatening. I assume

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<v Speaker 1>you think about how the character looks on stage. What

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<v Speaker 1>prompted the change? Je Nic said, It's something I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think about on stage, but it was something that I

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<v Speaker 1>became very aware of after the last special when there

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<v Speaker 1>was this huge debate about beard versus non beard and

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<v Speaker 1>which is better for the character. The character seems more

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<v Speaker 1>like a psychopath clean shaven, but I'm like, no, I

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<v Speaker 1>like the beard. I decided to grow my hair a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit longer on tour. I just thought, what would

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<v Speaker 1>this do? Does this make me more of an a

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<v Speaker 1>hole or less of an a hole? And let's be honest,

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<v Speaker 1>I think having more of a styled haircut seems a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit scarier. This is fascinating. It's more like we're

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<v Speaker 1>putting on a show. Whereas the spiky haircut was easy

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<v Speaker 1>to do. Anyone could do that. It just seemed like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm walking out here doing this. I feel like I've

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<v Speaker 1>gotten more famous in the past couple of years because

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<v Speaker 1>of clips, and the clips are short. Here with longer hair,

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<v Speaker 1>he feels it can be a little more anonymous in public.

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<v Speaker 1>Preacher loss and has been out on the road doing

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<v Speaker 1>the Funny as Bleep tour. And that's not me bleeping it,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the name of the tour. Preacher said, I was

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<v Speaker 1>very quiet, unless everybody in the class was quiet. Then

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, all right, some people just really want attention.

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<v Speaker 1>First off, everyone does. Let's just put that out there.

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<v Speaker 1>No one wants to be ignored, but some people just

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<v Speaker 1>wanted a little more. His tips for comedians get on

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<v Speaker 1>stage immediately and just do comedy a lot. I think

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<v Speaker 1>humor is like athleticism. Some people are born a little

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<v Speaker 1>more than other people. Then there's some people that are

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<v Speaker 1>just born a little funnier. But I don't care how

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<v Speaker 1>athletic you are, you still have to learn how to

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<v Speaker 1>shoot a basketball or dribble. You need to learn technique

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<v Speaker 1>for comedy right every day, like it's your morning coffee.

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<v Speaker 1>You should do it anyway for your mental health. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not supposed to be fun. It's a job. You're not

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to like jobs because they're working, and that's the

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<v Speaker 1>trade off. Lawson says, I think I have the perfect

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<v Speaker 1>amount of fame where if I go outside, there's people

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<v Speaker 1>that recognize me. But it's not like I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to eat with my family. I don't like when people

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<v Speaker 1>take pictures or videos of me without my permission. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that feels uncomfortable. It's like I never said I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to be recorded. As for controversial topics, Lawson says,

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<v Speaker 1>anyone's going to get upset, but if it's a large

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<v Speaker 1>group of people that are upset, I think it's usually

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<v Speaker 1>because the comedian did a bad job of conveying the joke. Comedians,

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<v Speaker 1>we're just storytellers. We're the same as you. When you

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<v Speaker 1>go to the movies, you lose yourself for an hour

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<v Speaker 1>and thirty minutes. You know you'd leave the theater feeling refreshed,

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<v Speaker 1>like that was a good time. If you go to

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<v Speaker 1>the movie theater you don't like the movie, you probably

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<v Speaker 1>should have looked up the director. There's this narrative that

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<v Speaker 1>you shouldn't apologize, which I think is stupid. I think

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<v Speaker 1>there are times when the comedians should apologize and then

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<v Speaker 1>they don't do it because they're like, no, I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>comedi and it's like, no, actually you should apologize. But

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<v Speaker 1>he adds, I really believe anyone could talk about anything,

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<v Speaker 1>but sometimes you say dumb things like my bad, that

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<v Speaker 1>was dumb. Sarah Silverman says, I don't really come from

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<v Speaker 1>a place of fear that I'm gonna get canceled. I

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<v Speaker 1>talk about stuff that I think is important or funny.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm never looking upset people are offend people. Comedy is

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<v Speaker 1>not ever green. If you're a comedian, you look at

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<v Speaker 1>things you did ten years ago and don't cringe. You're

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<v Speaker 1>not growing ideally, you're growing and changing and can't relate

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<v Speaker 1>to the person you were. People get mad at me

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<v Speaker 1>because I've apologized for things in the past. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's important to apologize when you're sorry and not apologize

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<v Speaker 1>when you're not sorry. Everybody wins. Friend of the Show

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<v Speaker 1>John Marco Sirizi is on Vulture's list of the comedians

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<v Speaker 1>you should know and Will Know. They asked him, if

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<v Speaker 1>you were immortalized as a cartoon character, what would your

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<v Speaker 1>outfit be A very John Marco answer. Five inch shorts,

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<v Speaker 1>a T shirt I got on Etsy for a high

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<v Speaker 1>school musical production that I wasn't in that's also a

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<v Speaker 1>little too short, a jean jacket that doesn't really make

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<v Speaker 1>sense given the shorts, and high top nikes where one

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<v Speaker 1>of the colors matches the color of the shirts text.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's also throw in a thin gold Forever bracelet with

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<v Speaker 1>a tea chirm that I got my girlfriend at a

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<v Speaker 1>casino's tattoo convention, some Warpbey Parker glasses, and a brown

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<v Speaker 1>leather watch, the two hands of which read Memento and Maury.

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<v Speaker 1>Which musical nobody asked? Ideally it would be Falsetto's Company

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<v Speaker 1>or Wild Party, just to be pretentious. Also, if I'm

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about this as a cartoon for a wide audience,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd probably go with fan of the Opera, even though

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<v Speaker 1>I've never been much of an Andrew Lloyd Weberstan proudest

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<v Speaker 1>achievement of your career so far? My jfl New Faces

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<v Speaker 1>set is probably the only important set I've ever done

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<v Speaker 1>that I wouldn't do over. I was at that show,

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<v Speaker 1>he crushed. He was the best of the night. I

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<v Speaker 1>wrote that down. I told you about it on the

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<v Speaker 1>podcast the next day. I've told that to his face.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a great set, he said. Generally, I found

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<v Speaker 1>all these career milestones are fraught and stressful and imperfect.

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<v Speaker 1>So in terms of feeling proud a panel in comparison

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<v Speaker 1>to a new joke working, or even better, an old

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<v Speaker 1>joke finally working. I did a pilot last year for

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<v Speaker 1>a roast based panel show hosted by Anthony Jesselnik Interesting,

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<v Speaker 1>and he anonymously mentioned me on his podcast the next week.

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<v Speaker 1>I know this because I've been listening to that podcast

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<v Speaker 1>to fall asleep to for years. I was already asleep,

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<v Speaker 1>but my girlfriend heard it, shook me awake and was like,

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<v Speaker 1>go back, go back now, it's pretty cool. I've been

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<v Speaker 1>procrastlading filming an hour. Which comedian's career would you like

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<v Speaker 1>to follow? John Mulaney, But just in terms of his

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<v Speaker 1>personal life, his favorite worst show was getting hired to

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<v Speaker 1>I was getting paid forty five hundred dollars to do

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five minutes, which was hands down the most I'd

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<v Speaker 1>ever made off a night of comedy. My mom drove

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<v Speaker 1>me to the casino from LA and on the drive

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<v Speaker 1>I looked at what company I was performing for. What

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<v Speaker 1>I learned was it was less of a company and

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<v Speaker 1>more of a union of sorts for West Coast electrical

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<v Speaker 1>companies with a very intense ideological bent. Their newsletter had

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<v Speaker 1>articles like has woke this Roob? And travel and COVID

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<v Speaker 1>climate change and other lines Democrats want you to believe.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish I could tell you I thought about not

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<v Speaker 1>going through with the gig, but it would be a

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<v Speaker 1>lie forty five hundred dollars. When I got there, my

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<v Speaker 1>mom and I found ourselves surrounded by mostly men in

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<v Speaker 1>their sixties thousands, all wearing full cowboy garb without looking

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<v Speaker 1>like that ever been on a horse. So I met

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<v Speaker 1>the other comedian, a kind and talented comic who nevertheless

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<v Speaker 1>sold merch shirts that said who done farted? Hmm, I

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<v Speaker 1>wonder who that was? Marco said. The comedy show started

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<v Speaker 1>as all comedy shows should, with the singing of the

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<v Speaker 1>national anthem. Then the auction, of course, which consisted of

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<v Speaker 1>small guns, guns that were intended for warfare training packages,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, five friends to learn how to use

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<v Speaker 1>those guns before or hopefully not after a wine tasting.

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<v Speaker 1>AK forty seven's, I looked through the playbill to ensure

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<v Speaker 1>the comedy portion of the evening was only possible thanks

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<v Speaker 1>to a generous donation by Exon Mobile, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>evil company. I started freaking out, taking stupid comedian thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>like well would George Carlin do? But I didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>any cocaine, so I tried to think of a joke

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<v Speaker 1>that in some way Abzombia the sin. So I got

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<v Speaker 1>on stage and preceded a bomb for twenty three minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish I could say that was on purpose, despite

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<v Speaker 1>the crowd, but it was more a mix of my

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<v Speaker 1>lack of practice sticking to clean jokes plus second guessing

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<v Speaker 1>jokes in the moment that I figured wouldn't play well

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<v Speaker 1>with men old enough to have served in the Confederacy. Then,

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<v Speaker 1>with two minutes left and no momentum to speak of,

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<v Speaker 1>I went for it. At the time, I was closing

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<v Speaker 1>with a joke about Titanic two, a recreation of the

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<v Speaker 1>Titanic built by some billionaire who hopefully was on the

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<v Speaker 1>recent submarine trip. Yikes. Normally I'd note that Titanic's voyage

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<v Speaker 1>was much safer nowadays thanks to global warming, but this

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<v Speaker 1>time I said it was because of the Iceberg's got

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<v Speaker 1>a lot smaller thanks to my sponsor Exon Mobil. Wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>a boo right away. First was just noise, a unified,

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<v Speaker 1>confused groan, but then one old man was able to

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<v Speaker 1>close his mouth long enough to produce a bee. I

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't say it was like an Apollo level boo. It

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<v Speaker 1>was nothing like the Apollo in more ways than one.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was my first real boo. And whenever I

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<v Speaker 1>have an extremely crappy gig now I try to remind

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<v Speaker 1>myself it's worth it for the story. That is amazing,

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