1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk is awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom. Trump 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:06,400 initiates a historic peace deal in the Middle East, and 3 00:00:06,759 --> 00:00:09,519 people fill their yards with the most morbid and criminally 4 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:14,279 tacky decor ever, because well it's October. All that and 5 00:00:14,359 --> 00:00:30,399 more on the Kylie Cast. Hi, everybody, and welcome to 6 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:34,079 the Kylie Cast. I'm Kylie Griswold, Managing editor at The Federalist. 7 00:00:34,359 --> 00:00:37,439 Please like and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts, and 8 00:00:37,679 --> 00:00:40,320 if you're just listening to the show, be sure to 9 00:00:40,359 --> 00:00:43,039 go check out the full video version on my personal 10 00:00:43,079 --> 00:00:47,439 YouTube channel or The Federalist's channel on Rumble, and then 11 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:50,679 of course like and subscribe there too. If you'd like 12 00:00:50,679 --> 00:00:52,560 to email the show, you can do so at radio 13 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:55,439 at the Federalist dot com. I would love to hear 14 00:00:55,479 --> 00:00:59,840 from you. Earlier this week, we watched a beautiful ceremony 15 00:01:00,079 --> 00:01:03,960 on what would have been Charlie Kirk's thirty second birthday. 16 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:08,560 President Trump honored Charlie, a true martyr, with the Presidential 17 00:01:08,719 --> 00:01:11,640 Medal of Freedom, which is the highest civilian award in 18 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:15,920 America and which is so fitting for someone who dedicated 19 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:20,599 his entire life to advocating for truth and freedom. In 20 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,760 an age increasingly hostile to both. Here were some of 21 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:24,359 the highlights. 22 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:28,599 Speaker 2: Today we're here to honor and remember a fearless warrior 23 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:33,959 for liberty, beloved leader who galvanized the next generation like 24 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:37,719 nobody I've ever seen before, and an American patriot of 25 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:42,159 the deepest conviction, the finest quality, and the highest caliber, 26 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,519 the late Great Charlie Kirk. 27 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 3: Charlie Kirk was one of a kind. He was unstoppable 28 00:01:50,799 --> 00:01:52,760 and he really was boy. When he had an idea 29 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:56,480 in his head. Oh, he would call me, sir, please, 30 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:00,959 you haven't done it yet, said Charlie. Relax, just relax. 31 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:03,799 He didn't relax it called me the next day again 32 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:07,599 it got it done. But he was like indomitable and 33 00:02:08,439 --> 00:02:11,719 always will be. He's really irreplaceable and nobody going to 34 00:02:11,759 --> 00:02:15,080 replace him. But Charlie never missed an opportunity to remind 35 00:02:15,199 --> 00:02:18,639 us of the Judeo Christian principles of our nation's founding, 36 00:02:18,759 --> 00:02:22,439 or to share his deep Christian faith. In his final moments, 37 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:26,000 Charlie testified to the greatness of America and did the 38 00:02:26,039 --> 00:02:29,439 glory of our Savior, with whom he now rests in heaven. 39 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: But probably the best part of the ceremony was Erica 40 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:37,159 Kirk's speech, not only because she continued to rip Trump 41 00:02:37,199 --> 00:02:38,319 about loving our enemies. 42 00:02:39,759 --> 00:02:43,199 Speaker 4: Surprisingly enough, he did pray for his enemies, which is 43 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:44,439 very hard, but he did. 44 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,159 Speaker 5: He did, he did. 45 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 1: But Erica was the best part of the ceremony because 46 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:55,840 she so beautifully articulated what true freedom really means. 47 00:02:57,199 --> 00:03:00,879 Speaker 4: The blessings of liberty are not man's invention, they are 48 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:07,240 God's endowment. Charlie lived for those blessings, not as abstract words, 49 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,280 but as sacred promises. 50 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: You know, too many Americans don't view liberty this way. 51 00:03:13,759 --> 00:03:16,000 Just a couple of months ago, you'll remember that Democrat 52 00:03:16,039 --> 00:03:21,280 Senator Tim Kain ridiculously claimed that it was extremely troubling 53 00:03:21,719 --> 00:03:24,560 for people to think that our rights, our freedoms come 54 00:03:24,599 --> 00:03:27,800 from God rather than the government. Of course, Tim Kaine 55 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,599 has this completely backwards. It's right there on our nation's 56 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:34,479 founding documents that are inalienable rights of life and freedom 57 00:03:35,039 --> 00:03:38,400 are given to us by our creator. Our government is 58 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,800 there to help safeguard those pre existing rights, not to 59 00:03:41,879 --> 00:03:44,840 grant them. But I think far too often Americans tend 60 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:48,560 to confuse what freedom even means, what freedom is actually for, 61 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:51,199 as if freedom itself is the end goal, you know, 62 00:03:51,319 --> 00:03:54,159 live free or die. We want freedom so we can 63 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:58,960 do whatever we want, no responsibility, no accountability, no duty, 64 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,439 nobody telling us what to do. And even Republicans and 65 00:04:02,479 --> 00:04:05,680 of course libertarians, often view freedom as just freedom from 66 00:04:05,879 --> 00:04:09,159 big government. I think when many people today talk about liberty, 67 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:13,080 what they really want is license, which has very clearly 68 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,439 contributed to so many of our social ills. But despite 69 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,360 what Kamala Harris might say, freedom is not about being 70 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:24,879 unburdened from duty. It's freedom to duty, to responsibility, to 71 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:28,240 tradition and truth and honor. And often we see this 72 00:04:28,319 --> 00:04:31,399 misunderstanding of freedom break down along party lines. You know, 73 00:04:31,439 --> 00:04:34,399 when Democrats talk about freedom, they typically do so in 74 00:04:34,399 --> 00:04:38,399 reference to things like reproductive freedom or a woman's so 75 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:42,079 called freedom to choose, well, freedom to choose, What what 76 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:46,800 they really mean is license to kill, what's inconvenient, to abort, 77 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:51,600 license to nuke the consequences of their own actions. It's 78 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:56,040 freedom from responsibility. Or they talk about freedom and liberty 79 00:04:56,079 --> 00:04:59,120 for same sex couples to marry, well to what end 80 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,199 the continuation of the human race? Not the natural right 81 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,399 of children to have a mother and a father, not 82 00:05:05,519 --> 00:05:09,360 the responsibility to be fruitful and multiply. What they really 83 00:05:09,439 --> 00:05:13,439 mean is they want license from sexual norms. Meanwhile, when 84 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,279 true conservatives talk about freedom, they talk about things like 85 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,040 freedom to keep and bear arms to what end well, 86 00:05:19,439 --> 00:05:23,560 for self defense, to defend against tyranny. There's a duty 87 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:27,680 associated with that, a responsibility. Or we talk about things 88 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:32,160 like freedom of speech, well, why because, as Charlie Kirk said, 89 00:05:32,399 --> 00:05:35,959 when people stop talking, bad things happen, we have a 90 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,560 responsibility to speak the truth. Or we talk about freedom 91 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:43,399 of religion, why because we are duty bound to our 92 00:05:43,439 --> 00:05:46,560 creator and we want to worship him freely as he commands. 93 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:50,720 These are all freedoms to something, not from it. Charlie 94 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:54,360 understood that, which brings me to an even more precious 95 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,120 part of Erica's speech, where she said this, to live 96 00:05:57,199 --> 00:06:00,519 free is the greatest gift. To die free is the 97 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:04,839 greatest victory. Charlie didn't just die free because he died 98 00:06:04,879 --> 00:06:07,240 as a citizen of the United States of America, the 99 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:11,639 freest country on earth. Charlie died free because he died 100 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,879 a citizen of Heaven. His freedom didn't just come from 101 00:06:14,879 --> 00:06:18,120 the courage and sacrifices of the founders or the bravery 102 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,600 of those who gave their lives in service to this country. 103 00:06:21,319 --> 00:06:24,639 It came from the sacrifice of his savior, Jesus Christ, 104 00:06:25,079 --> 00:06:28,319 who took Charlie's sin upon himself on the cross and 105 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:32,519 in his resurrection secured Charlie's eternal freedom. And Charlie Kirk 106 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:34,560 would be the first one to tell you this. It's 107 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,560 such a privilege to watch Erica Kirk talk about this 108 00:06:37,639 --> 00:06:41,920 eternal freedom, but especially when our president is watching and listening. 109 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:45,600 Trump is seventy nine and no matter how sharp he is, 110 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,839 he is up there in years, and it seems increasingly 111 00:06:48,879 --> 00:06:52,160 clear that he's been thinking about his own mortality and 112 00:06:52,199 --> 00:06:55,279 the reality of the afterlife. Maybe it's because of Charlie. 113 00:06:55,399 --> 00:06:57,240 Maybe it's because of his own brushes with death. I 114 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,920 don't know, but either way, Trump is thinking about die. 115 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,480 He's thinking about heaven, even if he's completely wrong about 116 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:05,120 what it would take to get him there. And spoiler, 117 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,759 President Trump, it's not a historic peace deal in the 118 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,480 Middle East. It is just the Gospel, plain and simple, 119 00:07:10,759 --> 00:07:12,839 And thanks to Erica Kirk and the other Christians in 120 00:07:12,879 --> 00:07:16,360 Trump's orbit, he's hearing about the Gospel regularly. So Revan 121 00:07:16,399 --> 00:07:18,560 being frustrated that Trump doesn't understand it yet, that he 122 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:20,439 still thinks it's about the good deeds. He does. Pray 123 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,360 for the president not just that he continues to fight 124 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:27,040 for the great gift of living free in America, but 125 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:30,240 that he would surrender to the free gift of grace 126 00:07:30,639 --> 00:07:34,279 that would empower him to one day actually die free, 127 00:07:34,399 --> 00:07:37,399 just like Charlie. You know, it's really hard to believe 128 00:07:37,439 --> 00:07:40,720 that it's been over a month since Charlie died. In 129 00:07:40,759 --> 00:07:42,959 many ways, it feels like we heard about it yesterday, 130 00:07:43,199 --> 00:07:45,240 and in other ways it feels like it's been years. 131 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,480 And either way, it still doesn't feel real. Watching the 132 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,480 Medal of Freedom ceremony, I kept seeing the word posthumously 133 00:07:53,399 --> 00:07:57,160 and it just made me incredibly sad, and it rekindled 134 00:07:57,199 --> 00:07:59,439 so much of the anger I feel that's just kind 135 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,360 of been similar for the past month. But the event 136 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,360 was also a reminder of what's at stake, of what's 137 00:08:05,439 --> 00:08:08,560 worth fighting for. We were reminded this week that Charlie's 138 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:13,079 battle is over, but ours continues every day, and so 139 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:22,079 we fight all right. Next up, Trump truly seems to 140 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:25,480 be the peace president, and this week we have phase 141 00:08:25,519 --> 00:08:29,120 one of a historic peace deal between Israel and Gaza 142 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:33,240 hostages have been returned home. Truly, so many great things 143 00:08:33,279 --> 00:08:35,519 happening in the Middle East. Here to join me to 144 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:40,279 discuss is David Harsani, my former on again, off again 145 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,360 colleague for a while now. He's a senior writer at 146 00:08:42,399 --> 00:08:46,039 The Washington Examiner, co host of Your Wrong Here on 147 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,799 the Federalist. David, so great to see you. 148 00:08:49,639 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 5: It's great to see you as well. Thanks for having me. 149 00:08:51,919 --> 00:08:53,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, you bet, it's been a hot minute and it's 150 00:08:53,919 --> 00:08:57,159 great to talk to us. So, David, you are way 151 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,039 more of an expert on all things related to the 152 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:02,279 Middle East and Israel Gaza relations, all the history there. 153 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:04,840 So can you just give for people maybe who aren't 154 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:09,600 as tuned into what this peace plan entails, what the 155 00:09:09,639 --> 00:09:12,919 war between Israel and Hamas has looked like for the 156 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,080 past couple of years, just kind of give them a 157 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:18,440 broad thirty thousand foot view of the peace plan and 158 00:09:18,519 --> 00:09:20,440 what phase we're in, what it's looking like. 159 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 5: Well, we're in phase one where Hamas returns the living 160 00:09:26,519 --> 00:09:29,320 hostages twenty of them, which they have been returned, and 161 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:34,759 then returns a bunch of you know, unfortunately dead bodies, 162 00:09:35,399 --> 00:09:39,000 and they have not done that. So we're they're in 163 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:42,879 the process. We don't know exactly where it is. The 164 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:47,200 long view is that October seventh happened. Everyone knows, But 165 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:50,039 the war is really not the Gaza Israeli wars. A 166 00:09:50,039 --> 00:09:52,360 lot of people think it's a war against the Iran 167 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:56,519 and Israel. There are about, you know, a forefront proxy 168 00:09:56,600 --> 00:10:00,559 fight with Lebanon, initially in Syria, with the Iron with 169 00:10:00,639 --> 00:10:05,080 the Hutis, with Hamas, and Israel I think has been 170 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:07,879 incredibly successful in that war. I mean, his Balla fell, 171 00:10:08,879 --> 00:10:13,159 the Asad regime is gone, the Iranians were embarrassed with 172 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:17,279 American help, their nuclear program has been set back many years, 173 00:10:17,279 --> 00:10:21,759 maybe decades, and Hamas has been obliterated. But the thing 174 00:10:21,799 --> 00:10:27,000 with Hamas was, you know, they hide within civilian populations, 175 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:30,080 so obviously that makes it very difficult, and Israel had 176 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,679 to try to get back the hostages there were. There 177 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:35,559 was immense pressure within Israel to get back those people 178 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:40,679 for obvious reasons. We'd want to do the same, and 179 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,639 so I think what happened was after Israel, I'm sure 180 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:47,799 people know, bombed Qatar to try to kill Hamas's leaders. 181 00:10:47,799 --> 00:10:52,039 I think it was unsuccessful, but I think Qatar everyone 182 00:10:52,039 --> 00:10:54,480 says cutter, I say, Qatar, I go old fashioned on 183 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,120 that one. Qatar simply realized sound. 184 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:59,519 Speaker 1: Just like Trump when you said that, David, I hope 185 00:10:59,519 --> 00:11:01,039 you know that everyone says this. 186 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 5: I say this China. So I think the Qatar realized 187 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:10,240 there could be a really deep price to pay for 188 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:14,200 continuing to prop up Hamas, and they've been their patron 189 00:11:14,279 --> 00:11:18,279 for a long time. So Hamas was surrounded in Gaza City, 190 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:20,000 I don't think they had much of a choice, as 191 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:22,799 Rael was about to annihilate them. I mean, it's very 192 00:11:22,799 --> 00:11:25,919 difficult to kill all of them because they hide in 193 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,480 civilian populations. They're one of the only armies in the 194 00:11:28,519 --> 00:11:30,960 world who take off their uniforms when wars start and 195 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:37,240 put them back on after. But it is an incredible achievement. 196 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:42,759 I think, considering how Hamas uses hostages, that Trump was 197 00:11:42,799 --> 00:11:45,879 able to convince them to enter into the ceasefire deal. 198 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:51,399 You know, the number one point in his twenty point 199 00:11:51,399 --> 00:11:55,559 plan for Trump was that Gaza must deradicalize. I'm pretty 200 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,399 skeptical that's going to happen, but I do think he 201 00:11:58,519 --> 00:12:01,240 set the table for something amazing in the sense that 202 00:12:01,799 --> 00:12:03,679 I'm not sure what's going to happen in Gaza, but 203 00:12:03,879 --> 00:12:07,240 Israel has hermetically sealed that place off. There's not going 204 00:12:07,279 --> 00:12:10,480 to be any more October seventh. There's not a civ 205 00:12:10,639 --> 00:12:13,480 like border with Egypt where they can get missiles and 206 00:12:13,519 --> 00:12:17,159 all the things that start serious trouble for Israel and others. 207 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:22,679 So you know, Gaza can turn into Somalia, right, But Gaza, 208 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:24,759 if they wanted to, and they've had this chance before 209 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,000 they can. The world wants to help them, they can 210 00:12:27,039 --> 00:12:31,600 turn into a prosperous place if they want to choose that. 211 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,200 That's a different story to talk about. But anyway, so 212 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:38,039 I think what people miss here or might miss, is 213 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:42,120 that when Trump went to Egypt to meet with all 214 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:47,480 these countries, Pakistan was there, Indonesia, the largest most populous Islamic, 215 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:51,360 you know, Muslim majority country in the world, Iraq, Turkey, 216 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:55,600 he has essentially set the table for all these people 217 00:12:55,679 --> 00:13:02,320 to concede or accept a plan that says that gazas 218 00:13:02,399 --> 00:13:05,879 to deradicalize before we even start talking about other states 219 00:13:05,919 --> 00:13:08,279 and stuff like that. So I think that's big. But 220 00:13:08,399 --> 00:13:12,399 also October seventh, and Hamas admitted this was started because 221 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,039 they wanted to undermine the Abraham accords with Trump, which 222 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:19,399 Trump had brought forth in you know, during his first term. 223 00:13:20,799 --> 00:13:22,799 So I think that's going to get back on track, 224 00:13:22,879 --> 00:13:24,679 you know. I mean, there are rumors that Indonesia might 225 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:26,840 be part of it. Obviously Saudi Arabia was going to 226 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:29,159 be part of it. I think there's this misconception that 227 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:31,600 Israel is at war with the Arabs. No, Israel has 228 00:13:31,639 --> 00:13:34,440 peace with every soon the Arab country. It's war was 229 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:37,799 with Iran. So these are big I think these are 230 00:13:37,799 --> 00:13:42,200 big achievements for Donald Trump. There are so many clans 231 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:46,600 and tribes and ethnicities and religious you know, denominations and 232 00:13:46,759 --> 00:13:48,519 all kinds of tensions in the Middle East, so you 233 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:51,120 never know what's going to happen. But I think there's 234 00:13:51,159 --> 00:13:53,919 a better chance he set to the table for a 235 00:13:53,919 --> 00:13:57,799 better chance for peace I think than has been the 236 00:13:57,840 --> 00:13:59,440 case there in a very very long time. 237 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 1: As ever, And can you kind of speak to why, 238 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,000 why exactly you think that is? I mean, because there's 239 00:14:06,039 --> 00:14:07,879 a lot of a lot of factors at play here, 240 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:11,080 right So you know, I'm hearing a lot of hope 241 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:15,039 that this is truly historic, that this is actually going 242 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:16,679 to be effective in ways that it hasn't been in 243 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:18,879 the past. But then also you know, when we talk 244 00:14:18,919 --> 00:14:24,840 about the need for Gaza or Hamas to deradicalize, it's like, Okay, 245 00:14:24,879 --> 00:14:28,679 that's not exactly in their nature, that's not that's not 246 00:14:28,679 --> 00:14:31,919 what you would expect absent serious interventions. And then even 247 00:14:32,039 --> 00:14:35,279 even then not you know, we know polling on the 248 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:38,759 number of people in Gaza who were supportive of Hamas 249 00:14:39,519 --> 00:14:44,000 and so like, even with the primary leadership of Hamas obliterated. 250 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:48,240 You know, what, what reason is there to believe that 251 00:14:48,399 --> 00:14:51,639 this ceasefire will be different than the ceasefire that was 252 00:14:51,639 --> 00:14:54,879 in effect, you know, the two that were attempted to 253 00:14:54,879 --> 00:14:57,720 be enacted since the October seventh attack, or even since 254 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:01,639 the ceasefire that was in effect right when October seventh happened, Like, 255 00:15:01,679 --> 00:15:05,200 can you speak to some of the complicating factors here? 256 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:09,320 But also why this is different? Seems different? Is it 257 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:11,919 just because of the cooperation of so many more in 258 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,159 the air world or what do you think it is? 259 00:15:14,919 --> 00:15:17,519 Speaker 5: I definitely think it's because of the cooperation and the 260 00:15:17,519 --> 00:15:23,600 buy in from the Islamic world, Turkey, Egypt and all 261 00:15:23,679 --> 00:15:27,799 of that. It's also different because Hamas is no longer 262 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:34,960 so in two thousand and five, or six. Israel gave 263 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:38,840 autonomy to the Gozins in the Gaza strip. They pulled 264 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:42,600 out all Jewish people from there everyone else. They left 265 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:46,480 them with advanced farming equipment, all of this stuff. They 266 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:48,399 could have had a proto state there to begin with, 267 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:54,480 but instead they chose to bring in missiles, build tunnels, 268 00:15:54,519 --> 00:15:59,399 all of that stuff. But that's over. That can't happen again, probably, 269 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:01,639 so I think that that makes it a far more 270 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:06,960 you know, it lays the groundwork for for them to 271 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:09,480 perhaps be peaceful, especially because of the buying of the 272 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:13,039 Arab countries. They don't have Iran anymore, so Turkey and 273 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:17,759 Katar will be I think their patrons now and they 274 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:23,559 may push for a more peaceful resolution. At least that's 275 00:16:23,559 --> 00:16:25,200 the hope, and there seems to be some buy in. 276 00:16:26,519 --> 00:16:31,879 Speaker 1: Okay, that makes sense. Can you explain a little bit 277 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:36,080 about the withdrawal plan. What it looks like that, you know, 278 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:39,000 Israel's controlling a little over fifty percent or not controlling, 279 00:16:39,039 --> 00:16:42,000 that the IDF is in a little over fifty percent 280 00:16:42,279 --> 00:16:45,919 right now of Gaza, but that they're going to progressively 281 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:47,759 withdraw What exactly does. 282 00:16:47,679 --> 00:16:48,159 Speaker 5: That look like? 283 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: And can you just explain the strategy there, why it's 284 00:16:52,519 --> 00:16:54,960 hopefully going to be effective or I guess think that's 285 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:55,399 going to work. 286 00:16:57,039 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 5: I don't know that. I don't know. I mean, I 287 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,720 think it's like a three phase to kind of pull out. 288 00:17:02,559 --> 00:17:05,599 Israel's going to create some kind of buffer zone. I 289 00:17:05,599 --> 00:17:08,559 think it's worth talking a little bit about this idea. 290 00:17:09,799 --> 00:17:12,240 You know a lot of people talk about occupied territories 291 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:16,799 in Israel's occupation in this and that, So Gaza for 292 00:17:16,839 --> 00:17:19,599 people who don't know. You know, so in nineteen forty eight, 293 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,759 the Israelis had a state. They had to fight for it. 294 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:24,799 The Arabs could have had a state as well at 295 00:17:24,839 --> 00:17:27,640 Palestinian's time, but they decided to start a war and 296 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:30,920 they lost. But Gazas from nineteen forty eight to nineteen 297 00:17:31,039 --> 00:17:33,839 sixty seven was controlled by Egypt. It wasn't even occupied 298 00:17:33,839 --> 00:17:36,680 by Israel. No one ever spoke about Palestinian states then, 299 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:41,319 because it's just kind of a concoction. But anyway, Israel 300 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:45,480 when it won back that territory for military reasons in 301 00:17:45,559 --> 00:17:48,680 nineteen sixty seven, like five minutes after that war was over, 302 00:17:48,759 --> 00:17:50,920 they were trying to give it back. They have never 303 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,519 wanted to be there, they have been it has been 304 00:17:54,279 --> 00:17:57,720 a big problem for them. They don't want to have soldiers, 305 00:17:57,839 --> 00:18:01,160 you know, the in there. They don't. It's different than Jerusalem, 306 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:04,039 which they do want, which is contested. They do not 307 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:07,319 want Gaza. They can't have a state there. If the 308 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:09,799 state there is going to have missiles a few minutes 309 00:18:09,839 --> 00:18:12,960 away from population centers, right and to create a terrorist state, 310 00:18:13,079 --> 00:18:16,240 no country would do that. So that's always been the 311 00:18:16,319 --> 00:18:18,160 problem there. They tried to give them the state, as 312 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,759 I mentioned before, and they just simply couldn't even take 313 00:18:20,759 --> 00:18:23,319 care of their own people without these realies. They don't 314 00:18:23,319 --> 00:18:25,960 have clean water, they don't have electricity, they don't have anything. 315 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:30,920 So I don't honestly know that the plan has you know, 316 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:34,680 I don't know what the plan is to make gaz 317 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:38,319 In self sufficient. They have so much. The Palestinians have 318 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:41,000 a lot of goodwill in the world. People are showering 319 00:18:41,039 --> 00:18:43,720 them with a They've been showering them with eight forever. 320 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,319 I don't know how this works if Gazas, if Hamas 321 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:51,079 is in control. But Gaza is also complex in the 322 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:55,160 way that if Hamas puts down their weapons, they might 323 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,960 be massacred by the other clans that hate them there. 324 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,960 So I don't honestly know what's going to happen. I 325 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,240 don't think Israel wants to go back, and I mean 326 00:19:03,279 --> 00:19:07,119 I saw today Donald Trump says, if they don't disarm Hamas, 327 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:09,240 someone's going to go in and disarm them. I mean, 328 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:11,759 it's always been trying to do that for years. You know. 329 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:15,000 That's why I said before. For me, the most interesting 330 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:17,759 and heartening part of this plan is the world buying 331 00:19:18,839 --> 00:19:24,279 to give them a pathway towards peace. Doesn't mean it's 332 00:19:24,279 --> 00:19:27,799 going to work, but the war's over, the hostages are back, 333 00:19:28,039 --> 00:19:30,559 Israel's achieved, and from my view, this is good. Israel's 334 00:19:30,559 --> 00:19:35,119 achieved its war aims, and a lot of the Islamic 335 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:38,039 world seems like they want to just move on from this. 336 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,200 I think those are all very good things, and I 337 00:19:41,279 --> 00:19:45,400 don't And I know that Donald Trump has kind of 338 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:51,519 blown up or sort of battered the foreign policy consensus 339 00:19:51,559 --> 00:19:53,640 that was prevalent here in the United States for so 340 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:57,599 many years. I mean, Jared Kushner has done more for 341 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,039 peace in the Middle East than the Brookings Institution and 342 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:06,599 has done in its entire existence. And you know, so 343 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,160 I think also on the flip side of that, you know, 344 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:12,480 you have this because of the failures of Iraq and Afghanistan. 345 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,839 I think there was an overcompensation the other way to say, 346 00:20:15,839 --> 00:20:18,160 we should never get involved, we should never do anything. 347 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:20,400 We're always going to be dragged into, you know, World 348 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,759 War three, where it's the next Vietnam, it's the next 349 00:20:22,759 --> 00:20:26,519 to Rock. Well, that didn't happen either. People out there 350 00:20:26,599 --> 00:20:29,960 were scare mongering about that. What happened was America was 351 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,759 a force for good and peace and to get do 352 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:34,680 that sometimes you have to win a war where your 353 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,240 allies have to win a war, and that's what happened. 354 00:20:37,279 --> 00:20:39,279 So I think all of that's positive. I don't think 355 00:20:39,279 --> 00:20:42,160 I answered your question at all, No, you did a bit. 356 00:20:42,319 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 1: It really is heartening to watch how surgical some of 357 00:20:46,039 --> 00:20:48,559 these strikes and plants have been, like the taking out 358 00:20:48,559 --> 00:20:52,799 of the Iranian nukes, because I think Rachel Bovard has 359 00:20:52,799 --> 00:20:57,839 written about this pretty well, just the DC blobs propensity 360 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:00,240 for war or just this sort of kinetic they want 361 00:21:00,319 --> 00:21:03,599 kinetic action. And it's been so heartening because I think 362 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:07,440 that's why people are so so ready for that and 363 00:21:07,519 --> 00:21:09,880 so scared of that because of the you know, the 364 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,599 Bush era of governance, and it's been so cool to 365 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,319 watch a president who uses the power that he has, 366 00:21:15,559 --> 00:21:19,640 goes in, you know, helps organize a surgical strike and 367 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,240 then just get gets right back out. It's It's a 368 00:21:22,279 --> 00:21:24,240 big change and very refreshing. 369 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 5: Should property taxes just come to an end? 370 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,640 Speaker 6: The Watch doot Wall Street podcast with Chris Markowski. Every 371 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,440 day Chris helps unpack the connection between politics and the 372 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,480 economy and how it affects your wallet. Truly, owning your 373 00:21:40,519 --> 00:21:44,119 own home shouldn't be a piggybank for government to extract revenue. 374 00:21:44,279 --> 00:21:47,599 Property taxes will forever make you not an owner, just 375 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,400 nothing more than a surf on the lord's manner. Whether 376 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,400 it's happening in DC or down on Wall Street, it's 377 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:53,440 affecting you financially. 378 00:21:53,519 --> 00:21:54,039 Speaker 5: Be informed. 379 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,279 Speaker 6: Check out the watchod on Wall Street podcast with Chris 380 00:21:56,279 --> 00:22:03,799 Markowski on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. 381 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,759 Speaker 1: I'm curious, I mean, aside from the fact that he 382 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:11,279 was just a walking corpse, why why did none of 383 00:22:11,279 --> 00:22:13,359 this get done under the Biden administration? I mean, was 384 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,599 it just a complete lack of will? Was it actual 385 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:20,759 disdain for Israel? Was it too much radicalism on the left, 386 00:22:20,799 --> 00:22:22,680 like too many, too many warring factions even within the 387 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:24,519 party that there wasn't appetite for this, or that they 388 00:22:24,519 --> 00:22:27,160 didn't want to take off their you know, core constituencies 389 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:28,960 like why why did none of this get done? And 390 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,200 then Trump is in office for ten months, less than 391 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,839 ten months, and boom, we have we have a workable 392 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:34,400 peace plan. 393 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,799 Speaker 5: Well, I think the factors that you mentioned, it's all 394 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,720 the above. Obviously, there's a growing contingent on the left 395 00:22:42,759 --> 00:22:47,880 that just hates Israel. But going back to the Obama years, 396 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:53,319 you had an administration that wanted to lift Iran and 397 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:58,039 created this to create a kind of regional power that 398 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,599 can be you know, a buffer against Israel in a 399 00:23:00,599 --> 00:23:06,400 way offset Israel's power in the Middle East. But Israel 400 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:11,839 proved that it was far superior technologically militarily. What it 401 00:23:11,839 --> 00:23:14,519 did to Hazbola, what it did to Iran before even 402 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:19,119 the bombing of the nuclear facilities was incredibly impressive. I mean, 403 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,920 I think it has one of the best armies in 404 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:25,839 the world and best intelligence services, and that's what makes 405 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:27,960 them partly a very good ally to us. I mean, 406 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:32,440 I think there's an exceptionalism there and here, and I 407 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,000 think that's also why Trump likes and has affection for 408 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:36,920 I think part of why he has affection for them, 409 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,880 And I have to quickly just say there is immense 410 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:44,240 affection for Donald Trump and Israel. I don't think that 411 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,720 any foreign leader has ever been as loved as Donald 412 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,119 Trump is an Israel In fact, I was telling Molly 413 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:54,440 Hemingway this, I don't think there's maybe any Israeli politician 414 00:23:54,839 --> 00:23:58,240 that has ever been as beloved as Donald Trump is there. 415 00:23:59,079 --> 00:24:03,400 Obviously they don't get the full Donald Trump every day experience, 416 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,920 but I think he had a moral clarity to support 417 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:13,400 them in war and in peace. Anyway, from my perspective, 418 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:18,440 that's excellent. So yeah, he's beloved there. 419 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 1: So maybe the full Donald Trump experience would make them 420 00:24:21,279 --> 00:24:24,480 like him more. David, you don't know, you don't sure. 421 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:28,759 Speaker 5: Maybe not. I mean, you know, if if the speech 422 00:24:28,799 --> 00:24:31,039 he gave there reminded me a little bit of JFK 423 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,279 speaking in West Berlin in nineteen sixty three, because he 424 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:38,920 was this kind of rousing speech against that is just 425 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:44,279 has a lot of moral clarity. He he has a 426 00:24:44,319 --> 00:24:46,920 view of Islamists, but he's not an ideologue in the 427 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,200 sense that he's also open to making peace. I mean, 428 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,839 he opened the door for Iran to ap peace and 429 00:24:52,799 --> 00:24:55,319 there is really no geopolitical reason for the United States 430 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,480 and Iran to be enemies. That's the truth. In fact, 431 00:24:57,519 --> 00:25:00,440 there's no geopolitical reason for Israel aie On to be 432 00:25:00,559 --> 00:25:03,680 at war. Before the you know, before the revolution in 433 00:25:03,759 --> 00:25:08,279 seventy nine, they were friendly. It's an Islamic problem. Iron 434 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:13,440 is run by Islamists and that's the biggest problem in 435 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,720 the Middle East right now. Peace could be had, and 436 00:25:16,759 --> 00:25:19,440 I think he realizes that. And because he's not an ideologue, 437 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,200 because he's not a politician, because he didn't come up 438 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:27,960 through those channels, he sees this as deal making, not 439 00:25:28,039 --> 00:25:30,039 as some kind of like you know. But he also 440 00:25:30,039 --> 00:25:32,400 sees the morality and he has a moral compass on 441 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,960 who's the wrong side of things. But he doesn't see 442 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,119 it in the way that a lot of DC blob 443 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,160 people see it. And I have to also say something 444 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,839 about Donald Trump. This works against him sometimes I think 445 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,720 it works for him. I mean, there's a lot you 446 00:25:44,759 --> 00:25:47,119 can disagree with Donald Trump, but he's not the kind 447 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,880 of guy who's going to take on policies to please someone. 448 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:51,319 And he's not the kind of guy who takes on 449 00:25:51,519 --> 00:25:53,359 like he can be convinced. If you're the last guy 450 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,319 in the room, you might convince him to do something. 451 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:57,359 But he's not the type of guy who's going to 452 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:01,079 be pressured. So while France and Britain and Canada were 453 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:06,359 rewarding Hamas's barbarity by recognizing the Palestinian state, he could 454 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:10,000 not care less about the international community, you know, and 455 00:26:10,039 --> 00:26:12,799 what they were pressuring him to do. And I think 456 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,640 in Israelis who are very much like him, rough around 457 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:22,160 the edges a bit and very aggressive and very you know, 458 00:26:22,759 --> 00:26:25,519 open about their feelings on things in the sense I 459 00:26:25,519 --> 00:26:28,000 think you see, you know, he admires that kind of 460 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,160 thinking among them at least, this is what I think. 461 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,119 I think, you know, part of the reason why that 462 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:34,279 relationship exists. 463 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just the art of the deal. 464 00:26:36,279 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. 465 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 1: You can tell a lot about his the way that 466 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,200 he interacts with foreign nations by his UN speech, for instance, 467 00:26:41,559 --> 00:26:44,480 his reason UN speech, which where he just torched everybody. 468 00:26:44,519 --> 00:26:48,799 So yeah, the Knesset speech, you could just feel the 469 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,200 energy in the room. It was super palpable. And that 470 00:26:52,599 --> 00:26:55,119 gets also to I mean, I don't see a Nobel 471 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,359 Prize in Trump's future, as the prize committee has made 472 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:05,039 pretty clear, but I was interested to see that Netanyahu 473 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,240 has nominated Trump for the Israel Award, which I don't 474 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:09,880 know a whole lot about that award, but it seems 475 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:11,960 to be one of the highest honors you can receive 476 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,480 in Israel, and that Trump would be the first non 477 00:27:14,559 --> 00:27:16,839 Israeli to receive the awards. So if that tells you 478 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,720 anything about how they feel about him over there, it's 479 00:27:19,759 --> 00:27:23,720 a good indicator. So and let's let's pivot to the 480 00:27:23,759 --> 00:27:28,319 media a little bit, David, Because as the Israelis were 481 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:33,359 cheering for Donald Trump in Hostage Square, it gave me 482 00:27:33,519 --> 00:27:37,519 such great joy to watch the life drain from Wolf 483 00:27:37,559 --> 00:27:39,799 Blitzer's face as he had to talk about how many 484 00:27:39,799 --> 00:27:43,079 Maga hats he saw because the Israelis were cheering and 485 00:27:43,079 --> 00:27:46,359 were so excited about Donald Trump. So the media coverage 486 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:50,559 has been a mix of horrific if you're a Christian, 487 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:57,480 I'm poor to being hilarious in their admissions that Trump 488 00:27:57,559 --> 00:27:59,279 has done a great thing here. I'm curious what some 489 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:03,319 of the worst media coverage you've noticed has been. 490 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,599 Speaker 5: Well in the Times and places like that. Of course 491 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,680 I think it's the worst, but it's been so bad 492 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:17,200 and dishonest, like wolf Blitzer or whoever's on CNN. Obviously 493 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,039 they've always and wolf Blitzer like started out as I 494 00:28:21,039 --> 00:28:23,480 think he worked for Apak or something. He's a Zionist 495 00:28:23,559 --> 00:28:27,440 and all that, but his for him to see Donald 496 00:28:27,519 --> 00:28:30,759 Trump do what others have promised to do forever, it 497 00:28:30,839 --> 00:28:34,880 must hurt, right, it must hurt. It hurts to see Hitler. 498 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,759 Hitler be celebrated in Israel, right like the Jewish state. 499 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:43,440 So two things, actually, I actually want to take a 500 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,160 step back and talk a little bit about like the 501 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:50,799 ceasefire now protesters and all the people who who marched 502 00:28:50,839 --> 00:28:53,680 and and and you know, for free Palestine and all that. 503 00:28:53,799 --> 00:28:56,359 None of them, none of them were happy. Most of 504 00:28:56,359 --> 00:28:59,519 those politicians didn't even say anything when this happened. Then 505 00:28:59,519 --> 00:29:03,440 they gave some perfunctory statement because their whole it was 506 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,440 never about to seize fire. It's about Israel losing. They 507 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,599 want to see the destruction of Israel. And the progressives 508 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:12,599 who work at the New York Times and other the 509 00:29:12,759 --> 00:29:15,240 Washington posts filled with them, who used a lot of 510 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:19,160 them were former Katari employees for Al Jazeera and so on. 511 00:29:20,599 --> 00:29:26,160 They are propagandists. The Katari government itself is a huge 512 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:33,160 funder of art of institutions, schools, j schools, media, all 513 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,079 of that, so you're never going to get a real 514 00:29:35,119 --> 00:29:37,480 clear picture of what's gone on. And clearly Israel has 515 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,240 a lot of support in the United States. I think 516 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,720 that's because of the media propaganda, because of the massive 517 00:29:42,759 --> 00:29:47,279 amount of money that that that chicoms and Katari's have have, 518 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,839 you know, thrown at the United States, at certain people 519 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:55,839 to create divisions, and because Israel didn't do a great 520 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,960 job for itself because it's it's hard to defend yourself 521 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,960 when you're fighting a war, right and civilians are going 522 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,000 to die, and that's terrible, but it happens in every war. Again, 523 00:30:06,039 --> 00:30:08,839 I'm way off topic, but I think the media is 524 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,920 part of that because I don't really treat they're not 525 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,000 really journalists for the most part anymore. They're often just activists. 526 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:19,200 So they're part of this activist class that spread the lie, 527 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,359 the complete hoax that there was a genocide going on. 528 00:30:22,359 --> 00:30:24,039 I don't know if you've seen the videos coming out 529 00:30:24,079 --> 00:30:26,519 of there. I mean, they are the most healthy and 530 00:30:26,559 --> 00:30:30,160 well fed, you know, victims of starvation in the world 531 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,480 has ever seen. And people like you know, jew baiters 532 00:30:33,519 --> 00:30:38,079 and Jew haters like Mehdi Hassan who said it that 533 00:30:38,519 --> 00:30:41,240 the Gaza think was worse than the Holocaust. You know, 534 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,079 it's shameful and there'll be no reckoning for it and 535 00:30:45,119 --> 00:30:46,960 no one will have to pay. But for me, this 536 00:30:47,079 --> 00:30:50,880 is on board with like Russia collusion, the Brett Kavanaugh hoax, 537 00:30:51,279 --> 00:30:54,240 with all the other hoaxes that have been perpetrated by 538 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,839 the media. And they're part of it. And the activists 539 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,559 are part of it, and the politicians, the Bernie Sanders, 540 00:30:59,559 --> 00:31:03,799 Elizabeth with Warren's are part of it, and and the 541 00:31:04,079 --> 00:31:07,079 and the what's his name Zohara, Mom Donnie is part 542 00:31:07,079 --> 00:31:10,519 of it. The only AMAS victory might be in Manhattan, 543 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,440 so we'll see in New York City coming up for selections. 544 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,000 So that's yeah true. 545 00:31:14,759 --> 00:31:18,079 Speaker 1: By skinny arms, mom Donnie, Uh yeah, I mean Christianampoor 546 00:31:18,279 --> 00:31:21,519 her she she said that the Israeli hostages were treated 547 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:25,839 better than the average Gosen. I mean, how crazy, how 548 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,240 much crazy propaganda do you have to be intaking and 549 00:31:28,279 --> 00:31:29,720 spitting out to say something like that. 550 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:34,279 Speaker 5: That's just it's ridiculous. She's she's always been terrible. But 551 00:31:33,359 --> 00:31:37,880 but but think about this, Why are Gozen suffering? Because 552 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,200 Gozen's not all of them, but many of them participated 553 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:45,920 in an attack on completely innocent civilians, raping, killing children, 554 00:31:46,599 --> 00:31:50,440 taking hostages, and a war broke out. And during the 555 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:54,039 in that war, Hamas builds. No, people don't like to 556 00:31:54,039 --> 00:31:57,839 hear it. They build military installations under schools and buildings, 557 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,920 and Israel has to figure out how to fight them. 558 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,480 Any after nine to eleven, and if we scale up 559 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,519 October seventh, it's nine to eleven for Israel. We weren't like, oh, 560 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,880 let's give the Talaba, let's give al Kaeda a state, 561 00:32:12,039 --> 00:32:14,559 you know, let's hear out both sides, let's go march 562 00:32:14,599 --> 00:32:17,880 for them. No, we mess some people up pretty badly, 563 00:32:18,039 --> 00:32:20,319 and that was what the American people wanted, and this 564 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,440 is what was going to happen. And to treat Israel 565 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,039 with some other standard that no other country would ever have. 566 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,079 I think is unfair is too light a word for it. 567 00:32:29,119 --> 00:32:32,680 You know, it's just it's immoral. And yeah, so yeah, 568 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,680 the media was part of that from the beginning. A 569 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:35,359 lot of lies. 570 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, before I let you go, I have one logistical 571 00:32:39,519 --> 00:32:43,640 question that I'm just curious about. I mean, one problem 572 00:32:44,279 --> 00:32:47,640 prior to this peace deal in the Middle East was 573 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,759 just that we were funding both sides of the conflict. 574 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,839 I mean, we're I mean, that's self explanatory. We were 575 00:32:52,839 --> 00:32:54,559 funding both sides of the conflict, and so what does 576 00:32:54,599 --> 00:32:56,720 that look like moving forward? I mean, of course we're 577 00:32:56,759 --> 00:33:00,599 helping you know, the Godza Strip rebuild in structure and 578 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:06,960 sending an aid and whatnot. But like after the rebuilding, 579 00:33:07,039 --> 00:33:11,039 are we done funding that side or what does this 580 00:33:11,079 --> 00:33:12,640 look like going forward? And what should it look like? 581 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,160 And how can we sustain a peace plan if we 582 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:16,240 are funding both sides? 583 00:33:18,119 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 5: Well, we were funding both sides. We should only be 584 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:22,960 funding one side in my view, but we were funding 585 00:33:23,039 --> 00:33:26,319 the other side inadvertently. I mean, and not to say 586 00:33:26,359 --> 00:33:30,440 that Democrats, let's say, or even Republicans didn't know what 587 00:33:30,519 --> 00:33:33,920 was happening with that money. How Hamas was stealing aid 588 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,759 and you know, buying missile casings or whatever with it 589 00:33:37,839 --> 00:33:43,440 and missiles themselves. So Donald Trump has said that he 590 00:33:43,519 --> 00:33:46,279 is not going to fund a radicalized Gaza, so then 591 00:33:46,319 --> 00:33:48,359 you'd be funding My view is I wouldn't give them 592 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,400 a penny. Honestly, as an American, I don't want to 593 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,519 give them a penny. They hate me, they're my enemy. 594 00:33:52,559 --> 00:33:54,440 I mean personally as a Jewish person, but as an 595 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:58,079 American also. They killed forty seven Americans that day. Let 596 00:33:58,119 --> 00:34:00,519 the sheikhs who sit on oil and do nothing else 597 00:34:00,599 --> 00:34:06,440 but live off that luck, let them fund. And they're 598 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,840 the ones always complaining about it. Let them fund and 599 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:13,239 rebuild Gaza to look like Dubai or whatever. That's fine 600 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:14,920 by me. But if we are going to fund, we 601 00:34:15,039 --> 00:34:17,800 have to have to make sure that that money does 602 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:23,159 not go through the United Nations, which is participated the 603 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:29,519 you know, in the insurrection against Israel. They have perpetuated 604 00:34:29,559 --> 00:34:33,360 the suffering of the Palestinian people by keeping them in 605 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,719 refugee camps for seventy years, waiting to go back to 606 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,320 their homes, supposedly in Tel Aviva or whatever. It's never 607 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,800 going to happen. I mean, everyone has to like accept 608 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:45,719 history and reality or you can move forward here, and 609 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,519 the UN should not be part of it. I trust 610 00:34:47,559 --> 00:34:49,719 Donald Trump will not let the UN be part of it. 611 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,199 I don't know who's going to be president next. I 612 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:56,079 know Democrats will one day again take power. When that happens, 613 00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,360 you know, I don't know what's going to happen. I 614 00:35:00,599 --> 00:35:02,800 think we should be funding our allies who help us 615 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:06,960 and and with intelligence, with our standing in the world, 616 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,159 I don't think we should be helping people who want 617 00:35:09,199 --> 00:35:13,039 us dead. Now, if the Palestinians changed their attitudes about 618 00:35:13,039 --> 00:35:15,840 the world and are open to it and friendly, I mean, 619 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,000 I think it's a good place to invest. I don't 620 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,000 know if you've ever seen the I'm sure you have. 621 00:35:20,119 --> 00:35:23,159 The coast of Israel and Tel Aviv and the beaches, 622 00:35:23,159 --> 00:35:27,679 and how beautiful Palestinians share the same exact coastline. There's 623 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,440 it could be a vacation mecca, you know, or or 624 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:36,639 whatever mecca. But so if that's what they want to do, 625 00:35:36,679 --> 00:35:38,840 I'm sure plenty of Americans would want to invest their 626 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:42,360 money into that sort of society. Uh, you know, we 627 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:46,639 help Israel military means yeah. But Trump, I think they 628 00:35:46,679 --> 00:35:48,679 should they would. I mean, everyone mocked Trump. I think 629 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:50,599 they should be happy about that. And one last thing 630 00:35:50,599 --> 00:35:53,480 on Trump, you know, like you had spoken about that earlier, 631 00:35:54,039 --> 00:35:56,920 like a year whenever, about Trump hotel and all that stuff, 632 00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:01,360 Like they're like he's a he's his force of will. 633 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,920 Like he says something's going to happen. It doesn't exactly 634 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:05,679 happen the way he says, but it's kind of a 635 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:09,039 force of will there because he doesn't play by the 636 00:36:09,079 --> 00:36:12,920 conventions of how this stuff usually goes on. He circumvents stuff. 637 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,280 It's like Jared Kushner and during the first term circumvented 638 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,000 the Palestinian issue to have the Abraham Accords happen, Like 639 00:36:19,079 --> 00:36:23,679 that's never happened, you know, in modern times. So it's 640 00:36:23,679 --> 00:36:26,000 like fresh thinking, you know, I don't even know if 641 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:27,920 it's fresh thinking. It's the only way he can think. 642 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,280 And I think that's what happened here in a way. 643 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,880 And yeah, we'll see how it goes. But it's definitely 644 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:35,760 better than what was before. And the war's over and 645 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,360 that's great. Yeah, the hostagees are home. I don't know, 646 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,920 if you watch those videos, I mean, I tear it 647 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:45,679 up and tear up. Yeah, And it's just two years, 648 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:51,119 you know. And I think that we should be boosting 649 00:36:51,159 --> 00:36:56,320 and helping and making friends with countries that share our worldview, 650 00:36:56,440 --> 00:37:01,079 our Western worldview, and trying to entice others to come 651 00:37:01,079 --> 00:37:02,679 along with that. And if they don't want to, we 652 00:37:02,679 --> 00:37:03,719 shouldn't be helping them. 653 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:07,960 Speaker 1: So yeah, I agree. Now, the question is what happens 654 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:09,880 with all of our from the river to the sea. 655 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:13,639 Fellow Americans and who of course are not in favor 656 00:37:13,679 --> 00:37:15,760 of the ceasefire Deal because it was broken by Trump 657 00:37:16,159 --> 00:37:18,800 after Hamas was wiped out and not before. 658 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,800 Speaker 5: But I think that's a plank of the left now. 659 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:23,880 I think it's going to be like an enduring plank 660 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:28,119 of the left, like BLM free Palestine, you know, whatever 661 00:37:28,199 --> 00:37:32,519 tranny stuff's going on, whatever cultural social culture quackery is next, 662 00:37:32,599 --> 00:37:35,480 you know, popular. I think that that's now embedded in there. 663 00:37:35,519 --> 00:37:38,519 So I don't think the Democratic Party in the future 664 00:37:38,559 --> 00:37:41,400 will be proser at all. I'm worried about the Republican 665 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:45,400 Party too, but definitely not the left. So I think 666 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,599 that's over for a lot of years. Are going to 667 00:37:47,679 --> 00:37:49,239 have to come to grips with that. 668 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:54,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, American universities and elsewhere, Yeah, yeah, of course. Well, David, 669 00:37:54,159 --> 00:37:56,840 thanks so much. I appreciate all of your entertaining of 670 00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,159 my questions and all of your insights. So it was 671 00:37:59,199 --> 00:38:00,519 great to see you, and I hope to have you 672 00:38:00,559 --> 00:38:01,159 back again soon. 673 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:03,480 Speaker 5: You too, anytime. Thanks for having me. 674 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,840 Speaker 1: You can follow David on Twitter x as it's called 675 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,079 now you can find them at the Washington Examiner and 676 00:38:09,159 --> 00:38:13,079 absolutely listen to your wrong on The Federalist Radio Hour 677 00:38:13,199 --> 00:38:16,000 and You're Wrong on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, wherever you get it, 678 00:38:16,039 --> 00:38:18,960 every Wednesday with David Harsani and Molly Hemingway. 679 00:38:19,039 --> 00:38:21,039 Speaker 5: I'll see you later, David Bite. 680 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,559 Speaker 1: All right, folks, it's officially October, which means it's almost 681 00:38:29,599 --> 00:38:32,559 Reformation Day. Happy Reformation Day to all who celebrate. Which 682 00:38:32,599 --> 00:38:36,480 also means Halloween is right around the corner, which also 683 00:38:36,559 --> 00:38:39,840 means so are your neighbors. Disgusting and gory and non 684 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:43,719 child friendly decorations if you could even call them that. 685 00:38:44,199 --> 00:38:46,360 You all know what I'm talking about. I'm not talking 686 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:50,199 about fall moms on porches or pumpkins or corn stocks, 687 00:38:50,559 --> 00:38:53,800 or little black cats or even bats or spiders or webs. 688 00:38:54,119 --> 00:38:58,800 I'm talking about larger than life skeletons with glowing eyes 689 00:38:59,039 --> 00:39:02,559 that terrified children. And I'm talking about demon clowns. I'm 690 00:39:02,559 --> 00:39:05,920 talking about corpses hanging from trees. I'm talking about terrifying 691 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,320 witches and murder and death and gore. These larger than 692 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,719 life displays come out year after year after year. Here 693 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,719 are just a few, as you can see. Here is 694 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:20,239 one of a house that looks like it's burning down. 695 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,000 It looks like it's reported that there were over ten 696 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:27,639 calls to the fire department about this house. What a 697 00:39:27,679 --> 00:39:30,119 waste of resources and what a way to terrify people. 698 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,639 Here's some more ah killer clown that pops out when 699 00:39:33,639 --> 00:39:37,079 you walk by. How lovely. Here we have an absolutely 700 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:42,320 macabre display. Disgusting. This is not fun, this is not cute. 701 00:39:42,559 --> 00:39:46,199 It's so selfish. None of these people are the only 702 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:49,719 ones living in their neighborhoods. They live near families, they 703 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,920 live near small children, they live near elderly folks. All 704 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:54,960 people who would love to be able to walk out 705 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,639 their front door go for a pleasant stroll in the 706 00:39:57,679 --> 00:40:01,840 crisp autumn air and not encounter you are hellish decor 707 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,719 All this Halloween decor reminded me of an old piece 708 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:08,159 from my colleague Joy Pullman at The Federalist. She wrote this, 709 00:40:08,159 --> 00:40:11,199 this is neither tasteful nor fun. It's ugly and selfish. 710 00:40:11,679 --> 00:40:14,360 Every person who uses public streets is not an adult 711 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:18,440 who enjoys viewing things designed to provoke corer Some people 712 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:22,159 are old, some people are very young. Some people have PTSD, 713 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:26,119 some people have easily sickened stomachs, and people like emergency 714 00:40:26,159 --> 00:40:28,920 workers see horrific things on the job and need a 715 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,280 break after hours like other friends kids. My four year 716 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,280 old has been having nightmares since Halloween season started and 717 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,320 is unable to sleep alone or even go upstairs in 718 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,400 the daytime due to fears of all the horrible things 719 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:45,960 he's seen on our streets. Thanks neighbors, People, especially parents, 720 00:40:46,039 --> 00:40:48,880 should not be forced to retreat into their own homes 721 00:40:49,079 --> 00:40:51,400 for two months just so that other people with a 722 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:55,519 fetish for blood and gore and guts can decorate with abandon. 723 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,360 There will be people who will pretend that this is hypocrisy, 724 00:40:58,599 --> 00:41:02,239 that we conservatives just want safe spaces. You better believe it. 725 00:41:02,519 --> 00:41:05,320 Of course, we want safe spaces for children. Here's a 726 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:10,239 difference between infantilizing adults and infantilizing infants. So much of 727 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:14,840 this is obviously a result of our increasingly depraved entertainment landscape. 728 00:41:15,159 --> 00:41:18,320 Just look at what is available on Netflix and YouTube 729 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,920 and in the theaters on any given day. So much 730 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,840 of it is bloody and gory and hellish, and it 731 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:27,920 desensitizes us to violence and things that are demonic. But 732 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:31,559 at least this entertainment happens behind closed doors. A little 733 00:41:31,639 --> 00:41:35,039 kid can't unwittingly wander into an r rated movie at 734 00:41:35,039 --> 00:41:37,559 the theater and then be scandalized for life. Not so 735 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,639 for the corpse, but its entrails hanging out strewn around 736 00:41:40,679 --> 00:41:42,639 your yard. I might not agree with it, but if 737 00:41:42,679 --> 00:41:44,679 you want to watch that in your own time, that's 738 00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,719 your prerogative. But it's obvious that we should have different 739 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:51,239 standards for public life and private life. What you do 740 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,480 in public doesn't just affect you. The hideous Halloween decor, 741 00:41:54,639 --> 00:41:57,239 the gory Halloween decor. I keep using the word decor. 742 00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,480 It's not even decor. It doesn't make things pretty. Halloween eccepsies, 743 00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:05,159 the Halloween landscaping, the Halloween lawn ornaments. 744 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:05,960 Speaker 5: Joy is right. 745 00:42:06,159 --> 00:42:10,039 Speaker 1: They are neither tasteful nor fun. They are ugly and selfish. 746 00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,960 This type of disregard for our fellow man is the 747 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,480 type of thing that contributes to a low trust society 748 00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,679 where you don't know your neighbors, you don't trust your neighbors, 749 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,280 and self government becomes really difficult. But we see this 750 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,840 type of disregard all of the time. It's not just Halloween. 751 00:42:26,079 --> 00:42:29,599 People throwing their trash out the window, people yelling in public, 752 00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:31,800 or saying things to other people's kids that they shouldn't 753 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,679 even be saying to other adults. People refusing to return 754 00:42:34,679 --> 00:42:39,000 their shopping carts, people blasting their music without headphones on 755 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:43,599 in public spaces, on public transportation, in quiet parks, you 756 00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,039 name it. I was walking through a wooded trail the 757 00:42:46,079 --> 00:42:48,480 other day and I met a man who was blasting 758 00:42:48,519 --> 00:42:51,000 videos on his phone in the middle of this serene 759 00:42:51,039 --> 00:42:53,280 woods where people are trying to walk and enjoy nature 760 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:54,480 and watch wildlife. 761 00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:55,079 Speaker 6: Rude. 762 00:42:55,559 --> 00:42:58,719 Speaker 1: This is not loving your fellow man. But the Halloween 763 00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,119 stuff just takes it to another level where you are 764 00:43:01,119 --> 00:43:04,840 just traumatizing children for no reason. I was very happy 765 00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,840 when Donald Trump issued his executive order about making America 766 00:43:08,039 --> 00:43:10,719 beautiful again, and I think we should apply the same 767 00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,760 principles to our front yards. Let's make them beautiful. If 768 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:15,880 I were to issue an executive order, maybe I would 769 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:19,000 just title mind make decore cute again. All of the time, 770 00:43:19,039 --> 00:43:21,679 but especially on Halloween. Why don't we just think about 771 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,519 our fellow man before we do things in public. That's 772 00:43:24,519 --> 00:43:26,119 the end of my Halloween rant, and that's going to 773 00:43:26,159 --> 00:43:28,119 do it for me today. Thank you so much for 774 00:43:28,199 --> 00:43:30,599 tuning in to this week's episode of The Kylie Cast. 775 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,360 I will be right back here next week. With more 776 00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,480 until then, just remember the truth hurts when I won't 777 00:43:36,559 --> 00:43:42,800 kill you.