Speaker 1: Yeah, and welcome everybody to another episode of this un Kenny,
Speaker 1: if you're probably where is the bumper music? Where is
Speaker 1: the cameras? Where is the Wherever's? Well, Unfortunately we had
Speaker 1: a little bit of technical difficulties on our ends here,
Speaker 1: so we're just gonna be doing this one audio. But anyways,
Speaker 1: my guest tonight, bigfoot researcher, wildlife researcher, all around good guy.
Speaker 1: I've met him quite a few times different conventions that
Speaker 1: I've spoke at, he's spoken at, and we always get
Speaker 1: along real well, solid guy, ladies and gentlemen. Manpresent to
Speaker 1: you Daniel Benoit. Hello, Daniel, how you doing.
Speaker 2: Hey, Robert, thanks you for having me. Man, this is awesome.
Speaker 2: I am glad to be here.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Thank you so First for the people, tell
Speaker 1: the people a little bit about yourself and what it
Speaker 1: is that you do or like to do.
Speaker 2: Well. First of all, I'm a while life and bigfoot researcher.
Speaker 2: I've always had a very strong interest in the outdoors
Speaker 2: ever since i was a young child. I mean I
Speaker 2: was always playing out in the woods, hunting, tagging along
Speaker 2: with dad or whatever it may be, you know. But
Speaker 2: over the years, when I got involved with when Bigfoot
Speaker 2: Team into my life so many years later, you know,
Speaker 2: a whole new world opened up to me. But I
Speaker 2: will tell you my whole thing behind this is put
Speaker 2: me out in the woods. The woods is my playground.
Speaker 2: And I know, I'm sure I'm not the only one
Speaker 2: to say this or think or feel this way, but
Speaker 2: I mean, I can't help but stress how much I
Speaker 2: love the outdoors and that's where I'd rather be, you know,
Speaker 2: most of the time. But yeah, I mean I've been
Speaker 2: involved with for the Bigfoot research for about a little
Speaker 2: over thirteen years now, and it's been very rewarding in
Speaker 2: many different ways. And but yeah, my thing is get
Speaker 2: me out camping, exploring, educating others, bringing awareness to what
Speaker 2: I do, and you know, among along with others as well.
Speaker 2: I like promoting others. And uh, you know, I get
Speaker 2: you know, it's funny I say that because I get
Speaker 2: people pointing fingers, like all you do is put stuff
Speaker 2: out there about you, about you, about you. What little
Speaker 2: do they know they're not really paying attention. I'm actually
Speaker 2: promoting others. Yes, it's very important that I feel that
Speaker 2: I'm a stress on who I am and what I
Speaker 2: do and my and share my views on the topic,
Speaker 2: but I am always about promoting others, and you know,
Speaker 2: I want others to have that recognition. There's people out
Speaker 2: there that, you know, I know what they do, but
Speaker 2: they're really not known. I mean, I don't consider myself known,
Speaker 2: but my awareness is starting to get out there. People
Speaker 2: are are becoming more familiar with who I am. So yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, that's pretty much where I where I'm at
Speaker 2: right now. I mean, as the wildlife and big foot researcher,
Speaker 2: educating and spreading awareness and yes, stepping put out in
Speaker 2: the woods every chance I get. I speak at various conventions,
Speaker 2: you know, up along the East coast. For this year
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, most of my conventions are taking place
Speaker 2: right in the state of Pennsylvania. I got a couple
Speaker 2: of conventions that I'm hosting. The one, the first one, well, actually,
Speaker 2: let me back up if we're going in order of
Speaker 2: the event. It's the first one is actually coming up
Speaker 2: in May May twenty fifth in Somerset, Pennsylvania. It's the
Speaker 2: Pennsylvania Missed the Legends Festival. Both me and my fiancee, Julie,
Speaker 2: we're working on that together. We're excited about that and
Speaker 2: and then jumping ahead June twenty excuse me, June fourteenth
Speaker 2: and fifth in Virginia is the annual eastbo of Virginia
Speaker 2: Bigfoot Conference. So that's a lot of work being put
Speaker 2: into these events. And uh, that's just a small touch
Speaker 2: on what we do apart from hosting events out there
Speaker 2: in the field researching. You know, we we do a
Speaker 2: lot of investigations. We get a lot of reports, which
Speaker 2: we love reports. We welcome reports, and if it's something
Speaker 2: within our range or it's something that we're able to do,
Speaker 2: we'll schedule it for ourselves to investigate. One of the
Speaker 2: biggest things that this is insane. Oh did I freeze
Speaker 2: up with something?
Speaker 1: It's been going back and forth. Okay, anyways to get
Speaker 1: back into things, when did you start getting into bigfoot?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: Where was your love of bigfoot?
Speaker 2: Oh? My thirteen plus years ago? I tell you wait,
Speaker 2: it started off in Virginia. However, a lot of my
Speaker 2: early of the research, a lot of my early part
Speaker 2: of the research took place. Actually some of it happened
Speaker 2: here in Pennsylvania many years ago, but Virginia has been
Speaker 2: my main focus. Tell you what got me into it?
Speaker 2: And it's it's funny this has been a very debatable
Speaker 2: video footage, but the Roger Patterson Bob Gimmelin footage, many
Speaker 2: people are well familiar with that, and it's, uh, it's
Speaker 2: something that caught my attention and actually really opened up
Speaker 2: a curiosity that actually developed into a very strong passion
Speaker 2: over the years. So so yeah, it's that video footage
Speaker 2: really opened up the door, and I know it has
Speaker 2: for many others as well. So you know, then of
Speaker 2: course later on, you know, watching the different documentaries and
Speaker 2: the different shows that came along finding big Foot. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I f any Bigfoot was a big part of it
Speaker 2: that came on later on, and now we got Expedition Bigfoot. Uh,
Speaker 2: there's so many different documentaries out there. It's it's been
Speaker 2: fascinating to learn others, learn, learn about other people's experiences
Speaker 2: and learning and hearing the different theories that are involved
Speaker 2: in this. So it's kind of hard to say where to,
Speaker 2: you know, you want to jump on board with some
Speaker 2: of these. But I'm somebody that when I especially when
Speaker 2: I first got involved in this, I heard and learned
Speaker 2: of a lot of theories. But I I was somebody.
Speaker 2: I was like the kid in the back of the
Speaker 2: classroom taking notes. I didn't jump on board with anything,
Speaker 2: but I took notes of them until this day. I
Speaker 2: like this. I feel that it's something that I keep
Speaker 2: an open mind about. So if that makes you know
Speaker 2: any sense. But let's see, I'm just checking. I know
Speaker 2: we had some technical difficulty earlier. Could you still hear me, Robert?
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 2: All right, I'm not hearing Robert. I don't know if
Speaker 2: roberts here or not. But well, anyway, I guess I
Speaker 2: could try to keep talking here. For those who on
Speaker 2: the comments say that they could hear me, I'll try
Speaker 2: my best to keep talking. Well. I've been busy working
Speaker 2: on organizing the UH and scheduling a lot of events
Speaker 2: that I've been asked to speak at. Normally I spoke
Speaker 2: at I speak at several events throughout the year. Unfortunately,
Speaker 2: this year I have to limit the amount of events
Speaker 2: I speak at. I have some things I'm not at
Speaker 2: liberty to discuss at the very moment, some possibilities of
Speaker 2: what might happen, which my fingers across. These are good
Speaker 2: things that might happen. So I really don't know which
Speaker 2: direction you're going to go in. So as of right now,
Speaker 2: the events I do have scheduled. I'm hoping I don't
Speaker 2: have to cancel them, but if certain things fall through,
Speaker 2: that's something I might have to do.
Speaker 1: You know, how many events? How many events are you
Speaker 1: speaking at this year?
Speaker 2: As of right now, there is actually only seven technically,
Speaker 2: well there might be eight, there might be eight, but
Speaker 2: that event they have to wait till they speak with
Speaker 2: their committee and have their meetings. Because this particular that
Speaker 2: event would be the South Carolina South Carolina big Foot Festival.
Speaker 2: They like to bring me down there every year, but
Speaker 2: they have to wait till at least go through a
Speaker 2: meeting or two before they start confirming and saying yes
Speaker 2: or no and all that good stuff. So but yeah,
Speaker 2: as right now, there's seven conventions. Of course, the two
Speaker 2: that I'm hosting, and those don't involve or include all
Speaker 2: the camping outings that we have planned the private investigations
Speaker 2: that we plan on doing so, and that's another thing.
Speaker 2: Some of our investigations that we have scheduled, Yeah, they're
Speaker 2: I say they're private because we're not going to share
Speaker 2: the locations or who they're involved with. But what we
Speaker 2: do with a lot of our field work and are exploring,
Speaker 2: we film everything. If there's an eyewitnesses of all that,
Speaker 2: we do, interview them and we try to put that
Speaker 2: together the best we can to share with the public
Speaker 2: later on. So that's one thing we like to do.
Speaker 2: We like to film and document everything, and the majority
Speaker 2: of our field videos when we do our own exploring,
Speaker 2: most of the time it's sharing the scenery and some
Speaker 2: interesting odd findings that we come across. But yeah, as
Speaker 2: far as the events, that's pretty much it at this
Speaker 2: very moment. Like I said, it's to say if there's
Speaker 2: gonna be any more, it's kind of early to say so.
Speaker 2: Matter of fact, I just put out a list. I
Speaker 2: made a post about it, probably maybe an hour or
Speaker 2: so ago, with just a list of events that I
Speaker 2: will be at for anyone interested you wanting to check
Speaker 2: those out? Yeah, awesome, awesome?
Speaker 1: Are you are you? Are you strictly into just Bigfoot
Speaker 1: or are you looking at like other things like spirits
Speaker 1: or UFOs or like, I know, Bigfoot is like your
Speaker 1: major passion, but do you delve into anything else besides that?
Speaker 2: Well, I will tell you this, the interest of Yeah,
Speaker 2: the UFOs, that phenomenon, I mean that it does interest me, however,
Speaker 2: even the paranormal. Yeah, and actually I've opened more up
Speaker 2: to the paranormal by welcoming it into my events and stuff,
Speaker 2: like my committee team in Virginia for our Virginia event,
Speaker 2: my community team. They're actually in a parent paranormal teams themselves,
Speaker 2: and we are actually getting more paranormal teams involved with
Speaker 2: our conventions and also what with well basically with what
Speaker 2: we're doing in Pennsylvania here the Pennsylvania Miss and Legend Festival.
Speaker 2: Of course, I believe that falls under a lot of
Speaker 2: different categories involved in the paranormal, various cryptids. But now
Speaker 2: my main subject is Bigfoot, wildlife and Bigfoot. Now, if
Speaker 2: I witness another cryptid that you know, we'll see something strange.
Speaker 2: I'm not afraid to admit that I've seen it. Hopefully
Speaker 2: I would love to document it if it if that
Speaker 2: becomes possible. So yeah, I mean I'm open to other cryptids.
Speaker 2: Is just right now, my main focus, which has been
Speaker 2: over the you know, the last thirteen plus years, is Bigfoot.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, I like to. I mean, there's
Speaker 2: a part of me that wants to start looking for
Speaker 2: other things, but you know, here's my thing. When I'm
Speaker 2: out exploring all my years of being in the woods.
Speaker 2: The only evidence I had found of any big I
Speaker 2: mean any cryptid would be Bigfoot itself, you know, apart
Speaker 2: from known wildlife species, because I am always looking. And
Speaker 2: here's the thing, as I tell people, I look for
Speaker 2: the wildlife evidence because you know, to learn and know
Speaker 2: what is known before seeking the unknown. To me, that's
Speaker 2: very important because as we're observing and as we're looking,
Speaker 2: if we could focus on what is known, the unknown
Speaker 2: is going to stand apart. I mean, you want to
Speaker 2: look for everything, want to be open minded, but you
Speaker 2: also want to take your time and be very observant.
Speaker 2: So as I'm looking, Yeah, my main of course, again,
Speaker 2: my main focus is Bigfoot, and over the years I
Speaker 2: have found large humanoid bipedal tracks. You know, I can't
Speaker 2: say that I have ever come across anything other than
Speaker 2: bigfoot as far as the cryptic goes. So but yeah,
Speaker 2: I will be open to look into other things if
Speaker 2: I had to jump into something else. I think my
Speaker 2: other crypt that I would like to get into, which
Speaker 2: has always been fascinating, is the lockedness or those that
Speaker 2: are similar to the lockness that we have here in
Speaker 2: the United States.
Speaker 1: But I think for me, the dog man is the
Speaker 1: one I find to be the most fascinating currently beause
Speaker 1: they have different sightings that they've had up in Wisconsin
Speaker 1: and everything else. So for me personally, I think the
Speaker 1: dog man is So I've watched some of your your
Speaker 1: shorts on your YouTube channel with bigfoot stuff, and I
Speaker 1: got to say, the eyeshine part is what kind of
Speaker 1: like you know, because a lot of a lot of
Speaker 1: the stuff that I see on your on your channel, uh,
Speaker 1: you can you you could tell it's fake. And I
Speaker 1: like how you spot them and call them out instantaneously, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is fake. You can tell it's from a suit,
Speaker 1: you know, like you can one hund percent tell that
Speaker 1: this is this is a guy in a suit walking around.
Speaker 1: You could tell by their strut. You could tell by
Speaker 1: the way they move. But a lot of the big
Speaker 1: the dog man cases, I don't hear too many hoaxes
Speaker 1: about them, and I feel like the dog man itself
Speaker 1: is more tied into Native American folk or not saying
Speaker 1: the Bigfoot isn't, because we do have some reports of
Speaker 1: Native Americans in Bigfoot almost kind of living side by
Speaker 1: side in their own little habitat. So on the on
Speaker 1: the on the concept of dog man, where do you
Speaker 1: stand on something like that, Like Bigfoot's one thing? Because Bigfoot,
Speaker 1: you don't really from some of the ports that I've read.
Speaker 1: And I'm by no means an expert, so please don't
Speaker 1: anybody say I'm an expert, I'm not a lot of
Speaker 1: times Bigfoot, when people get too close, they'll protect what's theirs, right,
Speaker 1: they'll protect basically what's around them. I haven't heard them
Speaker 1: getting too aggressive, though I've seen a couple of little
Speaker 1: small reports here and there of like, you know, if
Speaker 1: you get too close, But I feel like that's more
Speaker 1: of a defense mechanism than it is an aggression mechanism.
Speaker 1: But would dog Man. The reports that I've been getting
Speaker 1: were very aggressive, like very like you felt something when
Speaker 1: you saw them? What are your thoughts on dog Man?
Speaker 1: And like that whole kind of concept.
Speaker 2: Well, to be completely honest with you, as I tell
Speaker 2: a lot of people, I tend to stay away from that.
Speaker 2: But this is where I stand on it. And you know,
Speaker 2: I mean, everyone's got their beliefs and whatnot. At this moment,
Speaker 2: I honestly don't believe in dog Man. Even though I
Speaker 2: don't believe, and it doesn't mean he does not exist,
Speaker 2: but that's just my belief on the subject itself. However,
Speaker 2: with my research and my exploring and my observations, not
Speaker 2: once have I ever come across anything that would appear
Speaker 2: to be of a large canine tract. The only canine
Speaker 2: tracks I've ever witnessed or a verb were coyotes and
Speaker 2: possible wolves. One of the biggest things I've seen, especially
Speaker 2: on social media, in these dog man groups, I see
Speaker 2: people picturing, sharing photos of feline tracks, very large feline tracks,
Speaker 2: and calling them dog tracks or dog man tracks. And
Speaker 2: see that's where my wildlife and bigfoot research comes into play,
Speaker 2: or that phrase I shared earlier, Learn and know what
Speaker 2: is known before seeking the unknown, because there's a lot
Speaker 2: of misidentification out there, a lot of misjudgments, a lot
Speaker 2: of people that are misinformed. Now there is a number
Speaker 2: of people, including myself and some individuals of well known
Speaker 2: I'll say without mentioning your name, but I've heard presentations
Speaker 2: from others where people believe that what they believe to
Speaker 2: be a dog man, they may be misidentifying a type
Speaker 2: of bigfoot. It's believed that there are several different types
Speaker 2: of bigfoot. I can't prove that, but I believe that's possible.
Speaker 2: But you know, as far as a dog man thing,
Speaker 2: I'm going to keep that in open mind until I
Speaker 2: find some evidence otherwise. I mean, right now, I'll just
Speaker 2: have to say I can't right now. It's just I'm
Speaker 2: not saying I won't, but I need. I would love
Speaker 2: to jump on board with that, just like a lot
Speaker 2: of other cryptids that are out there. I mean, come on,
Speaker 2: they got they got a convention for frog Man. You know,
Speaker 2: I was like, where is this? You know, where'd that
Speaker 2: come about? You know? So? But yeah, yeah, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: No, go ahead, So and I agree with you. I'm
Speaker 1: a person that, out of everything, I'm always wanted to say,
Speaker 1: you know what, let's find out what it could be
Speaker 1: first before we delve into the unknown, and we have
Speaker 1: to figure out what it might be. You know, I
Speaker 1: said that before. You know, if you've ever been into
Speaker 1: like what they would say, a haunted house and you
Speaker 1: hear a door slam, well, was the door at an angle?
Speaker 1: So if you don't put something in front of said door,
Speaker 1: the door will shut. It doesn't matter, you know, if
Speaker 1: you don't put something from it. And I feel like
Speaker 1: a lot of times you get a lot of researchers
Speaker 1: in the field and not just not just a bigfoot
Speaker 1: UFOs and everything else where they want. And you you
Speaker 1: shared a quote I think that I saw either today
Speaker 1: or yesterday that you want to believe something so bad
Speaker 1: you're willing to turn that blind eye to something that
Speaker 1: it probably isn't. So you're like, I want to believe
Speaker 1: in it so bad that you know, it's got to be.
Speaker 1: It's got to be real, right, got to be real,
Speaker 1: you know. So you're like, you know, you could see
Speaker 1: you know some some some some have fallen down and like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, it was a crop circle as aliens. Well,
Speaker 1: no it is not what it is, but you know,
Speaker 1: and I think I think, you know, I think we've
Speaker 1: all kind of fallen victim to that in some ways.
Speaker 1: I mean I have in certain like nothing that I'll
Speaker 1: like go out there and make videos about and try
Speaker 1: to prove this out of the third but I have
Speaker 1: gone on to research and been like, man, this has
Speaker 1: got to be. It's gotta be. And then I'm like, nah,
Speaker 1: this isn't it. And I got to kind of back
Speaker 1: up and go back to square one with some of
Speaker 1: the things that I have research, because you know it
Speaker 1: it didn't. It didn't hit what I thought it was
Speaker 1: going to hit. And I think I think putting aside
Speaker 1: your your objectiveness to go back and and be able
Speaker 1: to have like be able to open yourself up to
Speaker 1: be like, hey, I got to see what all areas
Speaker 1: of this could be, because I don't want to be
Speaker 1: stuck in my own belief system, you know. And I
Speaker 1: think it's good talking to other people because then you
Speaker 1: get a better sense of what's going on now. Like
Speaker 1: I said earlier, I think the one thing, like one
Speaker 1: of my favorite things is that you point out like
Speaker 1: scammers and I don't I don't see a lot of
Speaker 1: people doing that. You know. Of course everybody will say,
Speaker 1: well this is a hoax, that's a hoax, but you
Speaker 1: call them out by name, and I got to say, like,
Speaker 1: I respect that because like, you know, if you're in
Speaker 1: a field that you know that that you know everybody's
Speaker 1: you know kind of they're they're already kind of making
Speaker 1: fun of it a bit. People don't believe skeptics and
Speaker 1: all that, with the first ones to be like, no,
Speaker 1: that's you know, what are they doing out in the
Speaker 1: woods right right? So I think like culling your own
Speaker 1: herd is something that you have to do warning into
Speaker 1: something that big. What makes you want to call these
Speaker 1: people out, like when you say, like, man, this is fake,
Speaker 1: I gotta let people know. What is the driving force
Speaker 1: behind that?
Speaker 2: For you? Well, I thank you for asking that, because,
Speaker 2: first of all, I do want to specify or clarify
Speaker 2: that I'm not trying to be a bully, you know,
Speaker 2: but people are being misled. There's global Nazi people that
Speaker 2: will follow these people because it's fascinating, it's intriguing. It's
Speaker 2: these hoaxures and these people pulling this stuff. They know
Speaker 2: what it takes to entertain the people. They know for
Speaker 2: a fact that there's gullible people that believe anything on
Speaker 2: the web. You know, they jump on it. Well, two,
Speaker 2: it's bringing them views. You know, there's some of these
Speaker 2: YouTube channels, I mean mine is mine monetized, but some
Speaker 2: of these other YouTube channels are got big numbers and
Speaker 2: they're monetized. They do whatever is necessary to bring in
Speaker 2: the views. Therefore they're making that money. You know, I'm
Speaker 2: familiar with what some of the money they made, you know. So,
Speaker 2: so you got people will taking a known hoaxer's video
Speaker 2: footage and use it and share it around under their
Speaker 2: own monetorization. Now to me, that's supporting that hoaxer, you know,
Speaker 2: regardless of how you use it. I and I've been
Speaker 2: I've been attacked for that. I have been, you know.
Speaker 2: I don't want to say I created enemies, but I've
Speaker 2: been shunned by people, some of my own friends. So hey,
Speaker 2: you can't be doing that to them. That's you know,
Speaker 2: they're only doing it for this purpose, and this doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: They're sharing their hopes, you know, people, people are believing
Speaker 2: in it, you know. And that's what I find it
Speaker 2: offensive because I care about the subject so much. I
Speaker 2: care about the truth, regardless of what that truth might be.
Speaker 2: I want to put the truth out there if it's known.
Speaker 2: And so again, a big part of it is I
Speaker 2: feel offended by people that are gullible, you know. I like,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of scams and a lot of hopeses,
Speaker 2: not just in the bigfoot world, but you know, I
Speaker 2: see people sharing all these pet scams, lost pets. It's
Speaker 2: all a bunch of bs, you know. But yeah, as
Speaker 2: far as the Bigfoot thing, I mean, Sonny Vader, everybody's
Speaker 2: sharing Sonny Vader's videos around he's a known hoaxer. He's
Speaker 2: been kind, but you know what, they like to use
Speaker 2: his video footage. You know, Sonny Vader is a genius
Speaker 2: because his video clips are only no more than two
Speaker 2: minutes long at the most, and he's getting ten to
Speaker 2: twenty thousand views per video. And I can only imagine
Speaker 2: what he's wilet looks like right now. So that's just
Speaker 2: one example. So that's where I go with at.
Speaker 1: But yeah, and and that's the thing I think, especially
Speaker 1: when we're dealing with and fields that we love, you
Speaker 1: know that we that we spend time on the research
Speaker 1: on and then you have guys that come in and
Speaker 1: they kind of shortcut themselves to the top of the line, right,
Speaker 1: And so when they shortcut their way, they don't do
Speaker 1: the research. They haven't been in the same places that
Speaker 1: a lot of us have. And they haven't been you know,
Speaker 1: they haven't been there. When when the research doesn't pan out,
Speaker 1: and you get dejected and you get you know, beat down,
Speaker 1: you know your research isn't where it needs to be,
Speaker 1: You're like, I I gotta go to I gotta find
Speaker 1: another avenue. You know, it's not an easy thing for us,
Speaker 1: I think, and I appreciate people that you know, hey,
Speaker 1: we wor still on the grind. You know, there's a
Speaker 1: there's a lot of there's a lot of podcasters like
Speaker 1: myself and and me and my coast t be here tonight,
Speaker 1: but he's not feeling enough to. I said, all right,
Speaker 1: take the night off. Of course this stuff, this stuff
Speaker 1: happens when he takes the night off. I think he
Speaker 1: cursed the show. No, I'm kidding, But there's a there's
Speaker 1: a there's a lot of people. See we we know
Speaker 1: a couple of people in the in this in a similar
Speaker 1: podcasting vein that that they always take cheap shots at us.
Speaker 1: I've we've never done anything to these people. I had
Speaker 1: one of them on the show. You can go back
Speaker 1: in the episodes, and we've done nothing but big them
Speaker 1: up on all of our episodes. They got a bone
Speaker 1: to pick with us, they got a chip on their shoulder.
Speaker 1: I'm not here for it. I'm not here for whatever
Speaker 1: business they want to do. They they don't concern me, right,
Speaker 1: so I'm not going to give them the spotlight. You know,
Speaker 1: And I think what I enjoy about people like yourself
Speaker 1: is you expose people and say, hey, you know you're
Speaker 1: not you're not getting this. You know, this is this.
Speaker 1: You didn't earn that. And I feel the same that way.
Speaker 1: You know, It's it's easy to sit behind a microphone
Speaker 1: and a camera and talk for hours. Shoot, I do
Speaker 1: that all the time.
Speaker 2: I can do all the right.
Speaker 1: It's going out and doing the research and meeting people
Speaker 1: and going to these places in speaking and meeting people
Speaker 1: that actually have had encounters, people that have actually seen
Speaker 1: these things, you know, people that have been through occurrences
Speaker 1: that most people can't explain. And I think that is
Speaker 1: what I respect about folks like yourself, Folks like les Odell.
Speaker 1: Big shouts out to less Odell. He's you know, he's
Speaker 1: another one that he'll go out there. If you got
Speaker 1: something going on, he'll show up. You know, he's been known.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely, Yeah. I've had him at one of
Speaker 2: my local little meetups I've had here in Pennsylvania. He's
Speaker 2: one of my speakers coming up in May. So yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean I spoke with him in West Virginia other
Speaker 2: at the West Virginia Big Suce Festival. Yeah, he's a
Speaker 2: great guy. Oh, real quick, real quick. I wanted to
Speaker 2: make mention you know how you mentioned like you do
Speaker 2: a lot of talking behind the screen or on the screen.
Speaker 2: People like you are like like, well, let me pinpoint
Speaker 2: just you and direct more directly. People need to listen
Speaker 2: to you more because from my observation and having you
Speaker 2: on my show, you're very intelligent. You're full of information,
Speaker 2: you're educational. People need to hear that more, you know,
Speaker 2: And so yeah, we need more people like you, you know.
Speaker 2: So yeah, don't put yourself down when it comes down.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but yeah, absolutely so any of mine. I
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Speaker 1: And I have one appreciate that. Thank you. I've been
Speaker 1: doing it for a long time. I've been reading books,
Speaker 1: I've been studying. I've been doing all sorts of research.
Speaker 1: I have books on everything you can imagine, everything from
Speaker 1: religion to bigfoot to UFOs to you name it. I've
Speaker 1: got it. It's sitting. If you can find it in
Speaker 1: the library, it's here. If you can't, it'll be here.
Speaker 1: And you know, two to three business weeks. Because a
Speaker 1: lot of the books I get I have to order
Speaker 1: from places and they're not.
Speaker 2: Cheap, so oh imagine.
Speaker 1: But I prize knowledge over everything. I'm not going to
Speaker 1: go into a conversation with somebody and that's why, you know.
Speaker 1: And I want to give a big shout out to
Speaker 1: you for having me on the show. Thank you. That
Speaker 1: meant that means a lot to me. I love when
Speaker 1: people hit me up like, hey, you want to be
Speaker 1: on the show. Yes, I love to talk, so let's
Speaker 1: you know. And and I love it. I love doing this.
Speaker 1: I love speaking at engagements because I want people to
Speaker 1: hear what I have researched, what I've been working on,
Speaker 1: what I have coming up. Because a lot of the
Speaker 1: stuff that I'm into is very deep stuff, you know.
Speaker 1: I try. I try to get into things and put
Speaker 1: stuff out there that not a lot of people may
Speaker 1: know about, you know, giants being one of those. You know,
Speaker 1: a lot of people know about Bigfoot. A lot of
Speaker 1: people will rot verse in bigfoot folks as yourself. And
Speaker 1: I was like, you know what I want to talk
Speaker 1: about giants. I think that I think that is is
Speaker 1: the I think people need to know about that because,
Speaker 1: you know, having research and having read reports of the
Speaker 1: Smithsonian coming in and taking bodies, removing whole bodies of
Speaker 1: giant skeletons and going to dig sites and pulling, pulling multiple,
Speaker 1: multiple skeletons, nine to twelve feet tall people, you know,
Speaker 1: sometimes tall I think fifteen feet at one point was
Speaker 1: one of the taller ones that I'd read about. And
Speaker 1: this is in places that are close to me. This
Speaker 1: is Ohio, this is you know, West Virginia, this Pennsylvania,
Speaker 1: this is in Virginia. You had I think as far
Speaker 1: south as like Georgia, maybe Florida, and then you have
Speaker 1: as far west as Phenom mistaken parts in Arizona and
Speaker 1: other places of that nature. So like, when I meet
Speaker 1: people have that passion for something like you do, like
Speaker 1: less does like folks like that do. I gravitate to
Speaker 1: people like that because I like to learn from you guys,
Speaker 1: because I don't. I'm not well versed in bigfoot. That's
Speaker 1: one of the few areas that I could always I mean,
Speaker 1: I could always stand to learn more in everything I do.
Speaker 1: I'm not an next one on anything. I don't want
Speaker 1: to be considered an expert on on things that you know,
Speaker 1: you can't be in next it on, you know, until
Speaker 1: you've actually had an experience, and there's people that have
Speaker 1: had them and then there's people that haven't. And if
Speaker 1: you call yourself an expert and you've never had an experience,
Speaker 1: are you really an expert at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: you know? And that's something for me because I would
Speaker 1: love to go out in the woods with some of
Speaker 1: you guys, and and because I'm always open to going
Speaker 1: out in the field. I'm as much as I love
Speaker 1: being warm in my house, I would love to go
Speaker 1: out and and see and hear. Because as much as
Speaker 1: people can say, hey, you know, I saw a big foot,
Speaker 1: I was in the woods, I heard a tree knock,
Speaker 1: I heard a howl. I heard this, or that you
Speaker 1: heard it, I didn't hear it. And until I hear
Speaker 1: it or experience it, it's harder for me to believe.
Speaker 1: And I think, right, I think by going out in
Speaker 1: these fields with folks, I think that's something that everybody
Speaker 1: can do. But not to get too far off topic here,
Speaker 1: I think that that being knowledgeable it takes time. I'm
Speaker 1: an effort.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I've been reading up on stuff since I was I
Speaker 1: was probably five or six. I was learning to read.
Speaker 1: And one of the first books learned how to read
Speaker 1: was was a time Life Western book and it showed
Speaker 1: the dead bodies of outlaws that they would post up
Speaker 1: in front of different places for two reasons. One to
Speaker 1: the tour would be would be Roberts, and two to
Speaker 1: tell the city, Hey, it's safe. It's safe. You don't
Speaker 1: got to worry about these people anymore. They're not out there.
Speaker 1: And for those who would be out there doing this,
Speaker 1: we will put a bullet in your head too. And
Speaker 1: from then on it just kind of like that bit
Speaker 1: of macab I guess just kind of went into that direction.
Speaker 1: And so as I got older, I started researching UFOs,
Speaker 1: I started researching ghosts, spirits. I've been researching darn nearly
Speaker 1: every religion on the planet. I researched he and Low
Speaker 1: because I think when we really want to sit down
Speaker 1: and look for the unknown, the unknown is my favorite thing. Like,
Speaker 1: oh the unknown. I enjoy it because everybody goes along
Speaker 1: with their lives and they come home, they watch news
Speaker 1: or they watch sports, and they go to sleep, and
Speaker 1: they get up, they do the nine to five and
Speaker 1: they watch news, watch sports, go to sleep. While I'm
Speaker 1: saying there's nothing wrong with any of those things, mind you,
Speaker 1: I have a job as well. I think that having
Speaker 1: that love for the unknown and wanting to explore. I
Speaker 1: think makes your life better in my personal opinion, I
Speaker 1: can't volage for anybody else by myself, but I think
Speaker 1: that it makes your life better. You know, I think that.
Speaker 1: I think it's just I think it's a good thing.
Speaker 1: And I think having the knowledge of these things, you know,
Speaker 1: going into something and being knowledgeable, or if you if
Speaker 1: you are not knowledgeable, then go into places, go into
Speaker 1: these speaking events here folks like Daniel, but soak in
Speaker 1: the knowledge like a sponge so that you can understand it.
Speaker 1: So next time you're around your friends and maybe somebody
Speaker 1: mentions like, hey, what do you think about bigfoot? While
Speaker 1: some of your other friends might not get it, you'll
Speaker 1: get it, so then you can have that conversation. Okay,
Speaker 1: now you've got a friend. Now you too are investigating.
Speaker 1: Now you too have set up a little YouTube channel.
Speaker 1: Now you're out in the woods doing it. I think
Speaker 1: it just betters your life overall.
Speaker 2: Right, Well, like with me along the lines with what
Speaker 2: you say, Like I have my fields. There's various field
Speaker 2: topics that I like to read and study on as well.
Speaker 2: And you know, and I personally it gives me the
Speaker 2: knowledge and understanding of things that I don't get to
Speaker 2: witness in person sometimes for example, real quickly. I mean,
Speaker 2: I do a lot of studies, not just on wildlife
Speaker 2: in various species, but primates, non human primates, gorillas, champanzees, baboon,
Speaker 2: bona bo, you know, all the various species rangutans. I
Speaker 2: like to read and study on their known behaviors, what
Speaker 2: they've been observed in witness, you know, performing and doing it,
Speaker 2: and learning about their diets. I do that. I find,
Speaker 2: you know, I find for me personally it's necessary to
Speaker 2: me to understand them because I like to compare their behaviors,
Speaker 2: their characteristics and everything in between along with what we
Speaker 2: compare and relate to big put. The reason behind that
Speaker 2: is I find a lot of similarities we're reporting about bigfoot. Well, look,
Speaker 2: there is a known species that's already familiar, that's already
Speaker 2: known for doing this. But with that being said, I'm
Speaker 2: not making Bigwoot equal to them. But there's that line
Speaker 2: of primate I want to keep open. But but you know,
Speaker 2: just throwing that out there where, that's where it gives
Speaker 2: me knowledge to understand the species of primates. You know,
Speaker 2: people say human or primates so wish we are scientifically speaking,
Speaker 2: so but yeah, jumping onto other things you cover there too.
Speaker 2: You know. It's like, regardless of what field you're in,
Speaker 2: you've got to have a passion, well not just a passion,
Speaker 2: but you're going to way of doing it. You know,
Speaker 2: if you can enjoy doing it, that's a big plus
Speaker 2: right there, because I can learn and read and study
Speaker 2: and gain all this knowledge, you know, and then having
Speaker 2: the experiences in the field with a bigfoot, you know
Speaker 2: topic as I tell people like you said yourself, and
Speaker 2: I can speak for myself that I'm not an expert either,
Speaker 2: you know. I like to share my views and my beliefs,
Speaker 2: and then I'll go along and share my experiences. And
Speaker 2: you know, some of us have more experiences experiences than
Speaker 2: others where we can say, well, I witness Bigfoot doing this,
Speaker 2: But most of these claims come from people's personal beliefs
Speaker 2: and say, no, Bigfoot doesn't do that, Bigfoot does this.
Speaker 2: But yet these are the same people say I'm not
Speaker 2: an expert. Well you never witnessed this, so how do
Speaker 2: you know. So there's a lot of that going on
Speaker 2: in the bigfoot world in the community, you know. So,
Speaker 2: I mean I know people that will tell you all
Speaker 2: these facts out of their mouth, but where are they
Speaker 2: getting your facts from? They didn't witness facts. You know,
Speaker 2: they didn't witness that. But you know, you know, because
Speaker 2: I'll ask people, I said, did you see big for
Speaker 2: doing that? Tell me about it. No, I didn't see him.
Speaker 2: How do you know? That's That's my whole point. And
Speaker 2: you know, and I won't call people out directly on
Speaker 2: stuff like that, but I'll question them back to get
Speaker 2: them to realize what they're saying sometimes, because I don't
Speaker 2: think they all intentionally mean to come across as that.
Speaker 2: Because big Put's a fun subject. We want to be
Speaker 2: able to come across to our peers and those who
Speaker 2: might be following us as very knowledgeable. I do. I
Speaker 2: like to do that too, but I try to throw
Speaker 2: facts out and explain why I'm saying what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: This is why I believe this. And you know, now, yes,
Speaker 2: I've experienced tree knocks. I've gotten responses from mine and
Speaker 2: other various occurrences. But when you experience enough of them,
Speaker 2: you kind of draw your own conclusion on what they
Speaker 2: might be, for what they might mean. You know, I
Speaker 2: still can't prove what they might be, although I have
Speaker 2: my belief in them. You know, you know, some people
Speaker 2: say it's this or that. You know, it could be.
Speaker 2: There's always that possibility, just like when I find things
Speaker 2: in nature that I find that, Okay, this is odd.
Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't think weather did this. I
Speaker 2: don't think you know, some of these things I find
Speaker 2: tree structures and formations, for example, okay, something with a
Speaker 2: postable phone, something or someone possibly made this and had
Speaker 2: put the work and effort into this. I have videos
Speaker 2: I put together for educational purposes on all these shelters
Speaker 2: and structors that people find and post pictures of. I
Speaker 2: have found them too. But guess what, I'm not going
Speaker 2: to tell you Bigfoot did them because here's in the
Speaker 2: video as I show people, Look a look at this
Speaker 2: guy gathering all these sticks. Look at the shelter he
Speaker 2: put together. These are the same shelters and structures that
Speaker 2: people say, I find a Bigfoot shelter. This is a
Speaker 2: big phone. You know. I try to show people the
Speaker 2: objective side of things. Why are you saying Bigfoot did that?
Speaker 2: He did it? Miss Bigfoot making that? But look, I'm
Speaker 2: showing a video of a human being building that you know.
Speaker 2: So I just try to get people to understand and
Speaker 2: open their minds and stop thinking bigfoot. Get big foot
Speaker 2: off your brain, you know, because I mean that's the
Speaker 2: one thing people ask me. I've had young people and
Speaker 2: all the people ask me, well, hey, I want to
Speaker 2: get more involved with bigfoot research. I want to start
Speaker 2: looking for bigfoot. What should I do? Well? One of
Speaker 2: the basic steps I tell of them as far as
Speaker 2: pick an area of interest, get familiar with it, the terrain,
Speaker 2: and and to lay out of the land, get to
Speaker 2: know what wildlife and you know inhabits that area. Number one.
Speaker 2: You know, the main thing at all when you step
Speaker 2: foot out there, don't think about bigfoot. Get big foot
Speaker 2: off your brain. You know, if the unknown is going
Speaker 2: to be available, if it's going to make yourself known,
Speaker 2: or you find that evidence that stands apart from all
Speaker 2: the all of the known, you know, obvious suspects, you
Speaker 2: know the unknown is going to stand apart. You know,
Speaker 2: then you could question your head, scratch your head and
Speaker 2: document what's this like? Sometimes I find things I'm not
Speaker 2: sure what I'm finding. I'll take pictures of it, I'll
Speaker 2: share it for observation and you know, discussion purposes. But
Speaker 2: you know, but yeah, that's just me. Yeah, like I said,
Speaker 2: you know, I've I've been I've been called an expert.
Speaker 2: Some people, you know, come back and call me in
Speaker 2: a sarcastic way, Oh, you must be an expert. I said, No,
Speaker 2: I'm trying to teach you something or explain something very
Speaker 2: critical and logical to you that you're just totally dismissing
Speaker 2: and not getting the point of. You know, No, just
Speaker 2: by me pointing out other known facts against Bigfoot doesn't
Speaker 2: make me an expert. But you know, it's just I
Speaker 2: like to believe I have common sense, you know, in
Speaker 2: simple awareness, you know, you know. So, yeah, I've been
Speaker 2: accused of a lot of different things, you know. I've
Speaker 2: even been accused of being a hoaxer, you know, but
Speaker 2: I don't have nothing to show that's hoaxworthy. I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, a lot of my findings are not not
Speaker 2: like what other people share, you know. Yeah. I used
Speaker 2: to find a lot of tracks over the years in
Speaker 2: the National Forest in Virginia. You know. My fiancee, Julie,
Speaker 2: we've been exploring up here in Pennsylvania and we're walking along,
Speaker 2: I'll spot something, I'll stop, stop, look down the ground.
Speaker 2: Do you see what I'm saying. Look, there's this looks
Speaker 2: like a track, and some of them are very detailed,
Speaker 2: you know. And you know, I know she's only just
Speaker 2: one one witness to seeing that stuff. But I find
Speaker 2: I do find tracks, you know. You know, some of
Speaker 2: these are very impressive looking, you know, you know, and
Speaker 2: she sees for herself, you know, she gets excited. You know,
Speaker 2: we'll take pictures of them. But unfortunately, pictures don't do
Speaker 2: justice when it comes to tracks. And a lot of
Speaker 2: people that does enough photography in nature, and someone when
Speaker 2: it comes a big for tracks, realizes this unless there's
Speaker 2: a clear track in the open mud or dirt, you know.
Speaker 2: But a lot of your impressions in the ground, walking
Speaker 2: through the forest. It could be a number of things,
Speaker 2: you know, But you know, you know, my biggest thing
Speaker 2: I hear a lot of when you tell people, oh,
Speaker 2: that's a bear. Oh we don't have bears in our erea.
Speaker 2: Just because you don't see him doesn't mean they're not there.
Speaker 2: Bears they're very elusive to you know, right right. They
Speaker 2: don't like to come around people.
Speaker 1: No, they don't like leave alone, leave alone. They'll leave
Speaker 1: you alone. I've only seen one bear in my maybe
Speaker 1: two in my life. And the one I saw was
Speaker 1: in West Virginia. It was a baby bear and it
Speaker 1: was off. It was off on the shore. We were
Speaker 1: on a boat going down the Elk River and we
Speaker 1: was off on the shore and I saw the bear
Speaker 1: and I'm like, Mama is not far behind. Mama was
Speaker 1: in there because he was playing. And I'm like, if
Speaker 1: you go over there and mess with that bear, I
Speaker 1: guarantee something something else gonna come and get you. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, that's the only thing I've ever seen and
Speaker 1: the one thing that I because we've had Amy Boo
Speaker 1: on the show and she she's really knowledgeable about Bigfoot,
Speaker 1: and we've had couple of different conversations back and forth.
Speaker 1: And what I like is when they is when people
Speaker 1: pull up the plaster casts of the of the tracks,
Speaker 1: those those fascet me to no end because I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this doesn't look like a bear's paul. You know, a
Speaker 1: bear's paul is rather, for the most part, is a
Speaker 1: fatter paul than one of the other ones. And and
Speaker 1: to where the bigfoot looks like it's more elongated and
Speaker 1: some yeah than some plaster casts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And usually a wider heel. Bears have a very now, uh,
Speaker 2: a very narrow heel. It's more almost like a rounded
Speaker 2: V shaped heel.
Speaker 1: So so, right, so you were you one thing I
Speaker 1: wanted to touch on to it and I and I'm
Speaker 1: glad that you brought this up kind of when you
Speaker 1: were talking. When people come up to and they say, Daniel,
Speaker 1: you know, I wanted to do what you do. I
Speaker 1: want to I want I want to jump into this
Speaker 1: thing with you, or you know, I want to jump
Speaker 1: into this thing like you do. The one thing that
Speaker 1: I said that that or you said that I liked.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like research the area. And I don't
Speaker 1: think a lot of people really understand researching the area.
Speaker 1: I don't think a lot of people said, take Bigfoot
Speaker 1: out of the equation for right now, take big Foo
Speaker 1: out of the equation. Get you a couple of books,
Speaker 1: go out and see what you can see in the
Speaker 1: area that you know, if you re if you live
Speaker 1: in you know, say you live in Ohio and you're
Speaker 1: trying to, you know, research you know somewhere in California,
Speaker 1: you're you're gonna be at a loss because you need
Speaker 1: to be close to the area. I think personally that
Speaker 1: you're going to be researching. I don't think it helps
Speaker 1: if you're you know, if you're six seven states away,
Speaker 1: you know, because you need to be able to go.
Speaker 1: In my personal opinion, dealing with certain things that that
Speaker 1: I've been into, you have to have a place you
Speaker 1: can go in summer, spring, winter, and full You've got
Speaker 1: to be at the at these places during the season
Speaker 1: changes because not everything is the same, not.
Speaker 2: Everything absolutely, yeah, I mean that's what I tell people,
Speaker 2: Like for years in Virginia for a day, I'll use
Speaker 2: Virginia to this where I spent a lot of deep
Speaker 2: research and exploring. You go into certain areas. I have
Speaker 2: my area, my research area. It's a very large area. However,
Speaker 2: it's broken up into what I call the zones. You
Speaker 2: got Ecrozone one, ec rozone two, blah blah blah, and
Speaker 2: certain areas. I got everything mapped out on a geographical map.
Speaker 2: It's very important to stay in certain areas and focus
Speaker 2: and revisit these areas for a number of reasons. Really,
Speaker 2: I mean, like I said, known to terrain, you know,
Speaker 2: you want to know potential dangers and hazards, you know,
Speaker 2: and then you got the wildlife you want to know
Speaker 2: what wildlife are passing through and working these areas. You know,
Speaker 2: a lot of people don't believe, like we got mountain lions,
Speaker 2: you know, I have seen their tracks and although I
Speaker 2: have got the capture one on my cameras out there,
Speaker 2: but eventually I believe it's it's a matter of time.
Speaker 2: But you know, just like big matter of time. I mean,
Speaker 2: a lot of people excuses why Bigfoot hasn't been captured
Speaker 2: on game cameras. Perhaps he has. Some people are keeping
Speaker 2: it to themselves, you know, or honestly see the fake
Speaker 2: ones on social media, which there's a lot of them,
Speaker 2: you know, and then you got people taking pictures of whatever.
Speaker 2: I'm kind of getting off course there, but no, uh yeah,
Speaker 2: but yeah, it's very important to get familiar with the
Speaker 2: area you plan on working. And I have a hat
Speaker 2: of yeah, I'll work a certain aread and I'll venture
Speaker 2: off off the out of the area because but it's
Speaker 2: important to visit the area every so often, likes a
Speaker 2: year after year or through various times throughout the year,
Speaker 2: because you're gonna see a different a different appearance of
Speaker 2: that area, you know, like the change the weather, the
Speaker 2: belief letter, the fall you know, the time letter and
Speaker 2: a lot of that plays a key role in your
Speaker 2: area being active versus non active, you know. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: when the leaf litters are down and everything, Yeah, usually
Speaker 2: around the lake fall when you've got hunting season comes
Speaker 2: in there. Yeah, the deer gonna keep roaming around, but
Speaker 2: your loose species are going to be a little further away,
Speaker 2: you know, right. And then not to mention cold weather,
Speaker 2: you know, if there's a shelter or a location for them,
Speaker 2: they're going to be staying put, you know. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: believe bigfoot rooms around during the winter. I mean, like
Speaker 2: every other species, they got to eat. You know, a
Speaker 2: lot of people think bears hibernate all the time. That
Speaker 2: ain't okay, especially here on the East Coast. They will
Speaker 2: be out and about moving around. They eat all the time,
Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, they might slow down a little bit
Speaker 2: if the tempters are cold enough, you know. But my
Speaker 2: observations with bears and hibernation, I see bear evidence all
Speaker 2: year long, you know, even through the winners. So people
Speaker 2: got to keep that in mind. Not all bears hibernate,
Speaker 2: you know, So I guess that also varies and depends
Speaker 2: on various individual species of them. But you know, in
Speaker 2: different locations. But yeah, there's a lot of little basic
Speaker 2: factors that people need to keep in mind. You know.
Speaker 2: It's simple knowledge things that they need to be aware of.
Speaker 2: But the biggest thing is getting familiar with the layout
Speaker 2: of the land and the wildlife itself. It's good to
Speaker 2: know the possible the ecology because a lot of your
Speaker 2: different various species of wildlife, they depend on the plant
Speaker 2: life and the vegetation and and the other wildlife that
Speaker 2: work these areas because you get your predators that work
Speaker 2: on the prey, you know, and and the prey that
Speaker 2: if the food source is there for the prey, most
Speaker 2: likely your predators is gonna be hunting that area too.
Speaker 2: So these are areas you need to really pay attention
Speaker 2: to water sources. Those are important to know too. If
Speaker 2: you've got water sources in the area, just think about it.
Speaker 2: Your pray is going to be there, the predators will
Speaker 2: be there, you know. So it's all basic knowledge and understanding. Really,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of things you just got to keep
Speaker 2: in mind. Yep.
Speaker 1: And I think that's important. I think I think the
Speaker 1: number one thing that that this basically set out in
Speaker 1: this conversation about bigfoot research doesn't really involve bigfoot and
Speaker 1: more involves the the layout of the land. It revert
Speaker 1: involves around the wildlife in the area. And that's I
Speaker 1: think that right there, those two things right there, I
Speaker 1: think are amazing. And then you had the bigfoot aspect
Speaker 1: into it, and that makes it better. But those first two,
Speaker 1: you know, it makes you knowledgeable. So when you you
Speaker 1: might go into a place and once you understand how
Speaker 1: how a forest works, once you understand the the way
Speaker 1: you went about researching and getting the information for this stuff,
Speaker 1: it makes it easier for the next location you plan
Speaker 1: to research. And I think I think that that opens
Speaker 1: a lot of doors. I think that opens a lot
Speaker 1: of things because now you get a couple of friends
Speaker 1: and you guys set out. You know, I'm not I'm
Speaker 1: not one to go out unless it's a place that's
Speaker 1: local to me and it's not as as wide, it's
Speaker 1: not as big. The acreages and is large. I'll go
Speaker 1: by myself. But there's very few places bigger than that
Speaker 1: that I'll go by myself. Right, It's not about being
Speaker 1: scared or being afraid. It's about, you know, I want
Speaker 1: I like to have other people around me, so that
Speaker 1: if something goes down, you know it's it's better to
Speaker 1: you know, it evens out the odds. You know it's
Speaker 1: likely something's gonna gonna try to do something right. Safety
Speaker 1: and numbers, No, I agree, especially when you're out in
Speaker 1: the woods espec. You know, if something happens to you
Speaker 1: to say, something just happens, it's not anything, not an
Speaker 1: animal attack, or you don't run into big Foot but
Speaker 1: you fall and break your leg. What you know, people
Speaker 1: can't hear you if you're out there. And and some
Speaker 1: of these wooded areas they're not just a couple of
Speaker 1: miles long, you know, they're very much larger than that.
Speaker 1: You know, you got the apple Lachians, the apple Lachians
Speaker 1: alone or multiple states, the Alleganians, you know, all of
Speaker 1: these places. So I recommend that people, if you're gonna
Speaker 1: go out investigating, always take a buddy. And you probably
Speaker 1: do the same obviously in a couple of year videos
Speaker 1: where you do the same. And I want to put
Speaker 1: u a special point on the video. It was a
Speaker 1: real you had about you find it, you find a den,
Speaker 1: You find a den in Pennsylvania, And I was like,
Speaker 1: that's fascinating because you know, obviously you'd say, well, bigfoot
Speaker 1: to use this, but your wildlife is gonna use that,
Speaker 1: your bears, your mountain lions, anything that's coming through there
Speaker 1: on a bad night in the middle of winter, you know,
Speaker 1: when it's when there's lightning and thunder and rain. Animalst
Speaker 1: don't like that kind of stuff, you know. I have
Speaker 1: pets here and they hate when it. When it starts
Speaker 1: lightning out, it's bad, they'll hide, they don't, they don't
Speaker 1: much care for it, you know. So that gives the
Speaker 1: wildlife a place and it's dry, you know, the not
Speaker 1: getting wet. So I just I thought that was a
Speaker 1: really interesting part that you put into your video, that
Speaker 1: that the den so to speak. I thought that was
Speaker 1: really interesting. And that's what I appreciate about your videos
Speaker 1: because you're at these locations. Yeah, I might not see,
Speaker 1: you know, a a very blurred out picture of what
Speaker 1: could be a bigfoot, but on closer inspection, it's just
Speaker 1: a tree branch. Because I saw that you had done
Speaker 1: something similar to that.
Speaker 2: What I do.
Speaker 1: What I do really enjoy, though, is I enjoy the
Speaker 1: fact that you're out in the woods, that you're out there,
Speaker 1: and I respect people that actually will go that extra mile,
Speaker 1: not just do armchair bigfoot research where they're watching you know,
Speaker 1: finding Bigfoot and you know, eating eating whatever and listening
Speaker 1: and or watching that Sunny Vader guys videos. You know,
Speaker 1: they're actually out there. You know, they're out there in
Speaker 1: the field. They're oi there, Like, Okay, I don't think
Speaker 1: this is a big foot. I think this is probably
Speaker 1: just a bear that has come through, you know, given
Speaker 1: the history of things, and you know, given what this
Speaker 1: is and what that is. And another thing I think
Speaker 1: you brought up too that I enjoyed was the fact
Speaker 1: that you said, Okay, now, once these occurrences start happening,
Speaker 1: I can hypothesize that it is this, but I still
Speaker 1: don't have verifiable proof right that it is that. And
Speaker 1: so I respect it because a lot of people they'll
Speaker 1: hear a tree knock six or seven times, you know,
Speaker 1: automatically it's a big foot, right, you know, I don't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, For example, you mentioned tree knocks. Now I've heard
Speaker 2: wood on wood banging and knocks out in the woods.
Speaker 2: But then again, I've heard things during the hunting season
Speaker 2: like I'm listening to the woodpeckers up on a big
Speaker 2: dead hollow trees above me and everyone that you know,
Speaker 2: most of us are familiar with the most common sounds.
Speaker 2: When a woodpecker is pecking on a tree, they sound
Speaker 2: like caps. Well that not's not always case. Some of
Speaker 2: them sound like wood on wood knocks, you know, so
Speaker 2: you know people, I mean, I've heerd people saying, yeah,
Speaker 2: I was walking down a trail and I heard a
Speaker 2: tap tap over here, a tap tap over here. And
Speaker 2: the way they're describing it, they're thinking they got bigfoot
Speaker 2: parallel on them. You know what I'm thinking, Wow, you
Speaker 2: got woodpeckers around here.
Speaker 1: You know, you have some birds, you got some birds
Speaker 1: going up and down them trees.
Speaker 2: But yeah, woodpeckers can be very deceiving on their you know,
Speaker 2: like I said, it's not just a simple tap tap tap.
Speaker 2: Sometimes they're you know, sometimes we hear them like a drill,
Speaker 2: you know, or in some cases, like I said, they
Speaker 2: sound like a wood on wood knock, like someone's taking
Speaker 2: like uh like not you know, a heavy baseball like
Speaker 2: a bat. Just tap it on a tree and you
Speaker 2: get that knock sound. Some woodpeckers, depending on the type
Speaker 2: of tree, the age of the tree, and you know
Speaker 2: it does it'll produce a basic knock like in Virginia,
Speaker 2: we have what you call and I've seen some of them.
Speaker 2: Up here in Pennsylvania you have what they call bullpines.
Speaker 2: They're usually a thick, heavy bark, big ground tree and
Speaker 2: I love doing my tree on them because they gave
Speaker 2: off a good basic knock, you know. But so yeah,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of things that people need to take
Speaker 2: in consideration. Almo, you're hearing nighttime. I believe it could
Speaker 2: be a different situation that you know. Yes, I've heard
Speaker 2: tree knock responses. I've forgotten treeknock responses in the middle
Speaker 2: of the daytime from my tree knocks. Now, was there
Speaker 2: other people out there playing games with me? I don't know,
Speaker 2: but I got responses that, you know, So I can't say, Okay,
Speaker 2: that was a big foot you know, I've had, you know,
Speaker 2: like one of the locations me and Julie went to
Speaker 2: visit and investigate for the very first time. How was
Speaker 2: God expecting nothing there? Because there was never no reports there.
Speaker 2: There was never any sightings in that location that were documented. Well,
Speaker 2: the first night we were there, after we got dark,
Speaker 2: it was dead quiet. It was kind of I don't
Speaker 2: want to say boring, but you know, I decided to
Speaker 2: give off a couple of whoops, you know, just for
Speaker 2: the heck of it. And right after, right after doing that,
Speaker 2: just inside the tree line, straight out in front of me,
Speaker 2: was a knock. Right after that knock, straight out from
Speaker 2: from where Julie was sitting out in front of her
Speaker 2: was another knock. So I question that. Okay, I mean,
Speaker 2: it got me excited because okay, this is nighttime and okay,
Speaker 2: what's in here? You know what's out there? You know
Speaker 2: something's there doing that. So I mean, yes, I would
Speaker 2: like to believe and contribute that to a bigfoot, but
Speaker 2: you know, and I mean I would be completely wrong
Speaker 2: to say, yes, that was a big foot and I
Speaker 2: didn't witness what made that knock, you know, But so yeah,
Speaker 2: it's easier to believe it was a big foot than
Speaker 2: to say it actually was a big pot so right,
Speaker 2: But yeah, so yeah, it's just you know, I mean,
Speaker 2: the whole thing was a bigfoot thing too. Like I said,
Speaker 2: you know a lot of us and you know, I
Speaker 2: could speak for myself on this, but I know for
Speaker 2: a fact, everybody out there, when you're all there bigfooting,
Speaker 2: it's exciting, it's fun, and Bigfoot's gonn to be on
Speaker 2: your brain regardless of what you experienced. But then and
Speaker 2: we tend to drain out all the logical side of things.
Speaker 2: It drains out the critical thinking, you know. And yeah,
Speaker 2: maybe at first I'll get excited and think of this
Speaker 2: and that, and then after I get to think about it,
Speaker 2: you know, Okay, okay, I have to consider this. You know,
Speaker 2: these other possibilities, you know, like a lot of the
Speaker 2: odd stuff we find or anything odd that we experience
Speaker 2: that we cannot explain. I always tell people there's always
Speaker 2: that possibility. You cannot rule out the possibilities, but you
Speaker 2: can't make a fact unless you witness what performed it,
Speaker 2: what created it, or what vocalized it, you know, all
Speaker 2: the above.
Speaker 1: So oh yeah, yeah, well, Daniel, it's about that time.
Speaker 1: I want to thank you for coming on the show.
Speaker 1: I apologize for all the audio visual hiccups. Definitely that
Speaker 1: was on my end. I apologized, so I thought it
Speaker 1: was on yours. But I'm here in the comments everybody's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we can hear them just fine. So it's something in
Speaker 1: audio that'll be worked out for the next show, you guys,
Speaker 1: So don't think I'm going anywhere because I'm not, but
Speaker 1: I'm want to give a big special thank you to
Speaker 1: Daniel Benwa Daniel, where can people find you and what
Speaker 1: event is coming up that they can come and see
Speaker 1: you at?
Speaker 2: Well, I'm not as as elusive as big for I'm
Speaker 2: pretty easy to find. I'm praisically. I'm basically all over
Speaker 2: social media. Facebook's the main primary source, So you can
Speaker 2: find me at under Daniel Binoa at ecb ro O
Speaker 2: ninety eight. I have my main profile, which you'll know
Speaker 2: it's me because I have the blue verified check mark
Speaker 2: next to my name. Then I have my main ecb
Speaker 2: ro East Coast Bigfoot Researchers Organization Facebook group. You can
Speaker 2: feel free to check that out. We welcome everybody. Then
Speaker 2: I have my ecbureau fan page and whatnot. There is
Speaker 2: a public figure page, but I have more follows on
Speaker 2: my main pager than that one. But yeah, I mean
Speaker 2: my event, My next coming event I'm going to promote
Speaker 2: coming up right now is the May twenty fifth Pennsylvania
Speaker 2: Myths and Legends Festival and that's happening at the Bakersville
Speaker 2: Community Grove in Somerset, Pennsylvania. So want more information on that,
Speaker 2: go visit the Facebook event page and yeah, and I
Speaker 2: mean I post my field videos and everything on my
Speaker 2: YouTube channel. Roberts has that scroll across the bottom. Feel
Speaker 2: free to check that out and if you have any questions,
Speaker 2: shoot me a message, send me an email u CBR
Speaker 2: ninety eight at gmail dot com. And that's pretty much
Speaker 2: about it. And thank you for having me on here, Robert.
Speaker 2: This has been a pleasure. I really enjoyed this awesome awesome.
Speaker 1: Well, you're definitely welcome to come back. We definitely will
Speaker 1: probably have you back on again. I definitely want to
Speaker 1: go out and into the Word with you at some
Speaker 1: point and check, oh, yes, see what's going down, and
Speaker 1: you guys will be able to hear it from me too.
Speaker 1: So I appreciate my community. I appreciate it annual and
Speaker 1: as always, why be boring when you can be uncanny.
Speaker 1: We will see you with my co host next week.
Speaker 1: Take care of folks, peace, wo