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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and welcome everybody to another episode of this un Kenny,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're probably where is the bumper music? Where is

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<v Speaker 1>the cameras? Where is the Wherever's? Well, Unfortunately we had

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of technical difficulties on our ends here,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're just gonna be doing this one audio. But anyways,

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<v Speaker 1>my guest tonight, bigfoot researcher, wildlife researcher, all around good guy.

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<v Speaker 1>I've met him quite a few times different conventions that

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<v Speaker 1>I've spoke at, he's spoken at, and we always get

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<v Speaker 1>along real well, solid guy, ladies and gentlemen. Manpresent to

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<v Speaker 1>you Daniel Benoit. Hello, Daniel, how you doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, Robert, thanks you for having me. Man, this is awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>I am glad to be here.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. Thank you so First for the people, tell

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<v Speaker 1>the people a little bit about yourself and what it

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<v Speaker 1>is that you do or like to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Well. First of all, I'm a while life and bigfoot researcher.

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<v Speaker 2>I've always had a very strong interest in the outdoors

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<v Speaker 2>ever since i was a young child. I mean I

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<v Speaker 2>was always playing out in the woods, hunting, tagging along

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<v Speaker 2>with dad or whatever it may be, you know. But

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<v Speaker 2>over the years, when I got involved with when Bigfoot

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<v Speaker 2>Team into my life so many years later, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a whole new world opened up to me. But I

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<v Speaker 2>will tell you my whole thing behind this is put

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<v Speaker 2>me out in the woods. The woods is my playground.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know, I'm sure I'm not the only one

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<v Speaker 2>to say this or think or feel this way, but

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I can't help but stress how much I

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<v Speaker 2>love the outdoors and that's where I'd rather be, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>most of the time. But yeah, I mean I've been

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<v Speaker 2>involved with for the Bigfoot research for about a little

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<v Speaker 2>over thirteen years now, and it's been very rewarding in

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<v Speaker 2>many different ways. And but yeah, my thing is get

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<v Speaker 2>me out camping, exploring, educating others, bringing awareness to what

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<v Speaker 2>I do, and you know, among along with others as well.

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<v Speaker 2>I like promoting others. And uh, you know, I get

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's funny I say that because I get

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<v Speaker 2>people pointing fingers, like all you do is put stuff

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<v Speaker 2>out there about you, about you, about you. What little

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<v Speaker 2>do they know they're not really paying attention. I'm actually

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<v Speaker 2>promoting others. Yes, it's very important that I feel that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a stress on who I am and what I

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<v Speaker 2>do and my and share my views on the topic,

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<v Speaker 2>but I am always about promoting others, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I want others to have that recognition. There's people out

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<v Speaker 2>there that, you know, I know what they do, but

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<v Speaker 2>they're really not known. I mean, I don't consider myself known,

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<v Speaker 2>but my awareness is starting to get out there. People

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<v Speaker 2>are are becoming more familiar with who I am. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's pretty much where I where I'm at

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<v Speaker 2>right now. I mean, as the wildlife and big foot researcher,

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<v Speaker 2>educating and spreading awareness and yes, stepping put out in

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<v Speaker 2>the woods every chance I get. I speak at various conventions,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, up along the East coast. For this year

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty four, most of my conventions are taking place

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<v Speaker 2>right in the state of Pennsylvania. I got a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of conventions that I'm hosting. The one, the first one, well, actually,

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<v Speaker 2>let me back up if we're going in order of

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<v Speaker 2>the event. It's the first one is actually coming up

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<v Speaker 2>in May May twenty fifth in Somerset, Pennsylvania. It's the

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<v Speaker 2>Pennsylvania Missed the Legends Festival. Both me and my fiancee, Julie,

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<v Speaker 2>we're working on that together. We're excited about that and

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<v Speaker 2>and then jumping ahead June twenty excuse me, June fourteenth

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<v Speaker 2>and fifth in Virginia is the annual eastbo of Virginia

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<v Speaker 2>Bigfoot Conference. So that's a lot of work being put

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<v Speaker 2>into these events. And uh, that's just a small touch

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<v Speaker 2>on what we do apart from hosting events out there

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<v Speaker 2>in the field researching. You know, we we do a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of investigations. We get a lot of reports, which

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<v Speaker 2>we love reports. We welcome reports, and if it's something

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<v Speaker 2>within our range or it's something that we're able to do,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll schedule it for ourselves to investigate. One of the

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<v Speaker 2>biggest things that this is insane. Oh did I freeze

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<v Speaker 2>up with something?

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<v Speaker 1>It's been going back and forth. Okay, anyways to get

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<v Speaker 1>back into things, when did you start getting into bigfoot?

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<v Speaker 2>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>Where was your love of bigfoot?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? My thirteen plus years ago? I tell you wait,

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<v Speaker 2>it started off in Virginia. However, a lot of my

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<v Speaker 2>early of the research, a lot of my early part

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<v Speaker 2>of the research took place. Actually some of it happened

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<v Speaker 2>here in Pennsylvania many years ago, but Virginia has been

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<v Speaker 2>my main focus. Tell you what got me into it?

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<v Speaker 2>And it's it's funny this has been a very debatable

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<v Speaker 2>video footage, but the Roger Patterson Bob Gimmelin footage, many

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<v Speaker 2>people are well familiar with that, and it's, uh, it's

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<v Speaker 2>something that caught my attention and actually really opened up

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<v Speaker 2>a curiosity that actually developed into a very strong passion

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<v Speaker 2>over the years. So so yeah, it's that video footage

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<v Speaker 2>really opened up the door, and I know it has

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<v Speaker 2>for many others as well. So you know, then of

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<v Speaker 2>course later on, you know, watching the different documentaries and

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<v Speaker 2>the different shows that came along finding big Foot. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I f any Bigfoot was a big part of it

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<v Speaker 2>that came on later on, and now we got Expedition Bigfoot. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>there's so many different documentaries out there. It's it's been

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<v Speaker 2>fascinating to learn others, learn, learn about other people's experiences

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<v Speaker 2>and learning and hearing the different theories that are involved

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<v Speaker 2>in this. So it's kind of hard to say where to,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you want to jump on board with some

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<v Speaker 2>of these. But I'm somebody that when I especially when

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<v Speaker 2>I first got involved in this, I heard and learned

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<v Speaker 2>of a lot of theories. But I I was somebody.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like the kid in the back of the

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<v Speaker 2>classroom taking notes. I didn't jump on board with anything,

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<v Speaker 2>but I took notes of them until this day. I

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<v Speaker 2>like this. I feel that it's something that I keep

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<v Speaker 2>an open mind about. So if that makes you know

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<v Speaker 2>any sense. But let's see, I'm just checking. I know

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<v Speaker 2>we had some technical difficulty earlier. Could you still hear me, Robert?

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<v Speaker 1>All right?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, I'm not hearing Robert. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>roberts here or not. But well, anyway, I guess I

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<v Speaker 2>could try to keep talking here. For those who on

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<v Speaker 2>the comments say that they could hear me, I'll try

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<v Speaker 2>my best to keep talking. Well. I've been busy working

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<v Speaker 2>on organizing the UH and scheduling a lot of events

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<v Speaker 2>that I've been asked to speak at. Normally I spoke

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<v Speaker 2>at I speak at several events throughout the year. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 2>this year I have to limit the amount of events

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<v Speaker 2>I speak at. I have some things I'm not at

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<v Speaker 2>liberty to discuss at the very moment, some possibilities of

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<v Speaker 2>what might happen, which my fingers across. These are good

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<v Speaker 2>things that might happen. So I really don't know which

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<v Speaker 2>direction you're going to go in. So as of right now,

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<v Speaker 2>the events I do have scheduled. I'm hoping I don't

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<v Speaker 2>have to cancel them, but if certain things fall through,

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<v Speaker 2>that's something I might have to do.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, how many events? How many events are you

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<v Speaker 1>speaking at this year?

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<v Speaker 2>As of right now, there is actually only seven technically,

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<v Speaker 2>well there might be eight, there might be eight, but

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<v Speaker 2>that event they have to wait till they speak with

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<v Speaker 2>their committee and have their meetings. Because this particular that

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<v Speaker 2>event would be the South Carolina South Carolina big Foot Festival.

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<v Speaker 2>They like to bring me down there every year, but

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<v Speaker 2>they have to wait till at least go through a

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<v Speaker 2>meeting or two before they start confirming and saying yes

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<v Speaker 2>or no and all that good stuff. So but yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>as right now, there's seven conventions. Of course, the two

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm hosting, and those don't involve or include all

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<v Speaker 2>the camping outings that we have planned the private investigations

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<v Speaker 2>that we plan on doing so, and that's another thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of our investigations that we have scheduled, Yeah, they're

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<v Speaker 2>I say they're private because we're not going to share

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<v Speaker 2>the locations or who they're involved with. But what we

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<v Speaker 2>do with a lot of our field work and are exploring,

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<v Speaker 2>we film everything. If there's an eyewitnesses of all that,

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<v Speaker 2>we do, interview them and we try to put that

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<v Speaker 2>later on. So that's one thing we like to do.

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<v Speaker 2>We like to film and document everything, and the majority

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<v Speaker 2>of our field videos when we do our own exploring,

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<v Speaker 2>most of the time it's sharing the scenery and some

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<v Speaker 2>interesting odd findings that we come across. But yeah, as

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<v Speaker 2>far as the events, that's pretty much it at this

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<v Speaker 2>very moment. Like I said, it's to say if there's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be any more, it's kind of early to say so.

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<v Speaker 2>Matter of fact, I just put out a list. I

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<v Speaker 2>made a post about it, probably maybe an hour or

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<v Speaker 2>so ago, with just a list of events that I

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<v Speaker 2>will be at for anyone interested you wanting to check

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<v Speaker 2>those out? Yeah, awesome, awesome?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you are you? Are you strictly into just Bigfoot

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<v Speaker 1>or are you looking at like other things like spirits

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<v Speaker 1>or UFOs or like, I know, Bigfoot is like your

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<v Speaker 1>major passion, but do you delve into anything else besides that?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I will tell you this, the interest of Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the UFOs, that phenomenon, I mean that it does interest me, however,

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<v Speaker 2>even the paranormal. Yeah, and actually I've opened more up

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<v Speaker 2>to the paranormal by welcoming it into my events and stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>like my committee team in Virginia for our Virginia event,

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<v Speaker 2>my community team. They're actually in a parent paranormal teams themselves,

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<v Speaker 2>and we are actually getting more paranormal teams involved with

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<v Speaker 2>our conventions and also what with well basically with what

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<v Speaker 2>we're doing in Pennsylvania here the Pennsylvania Miss and Legend Festival.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, I believe that falls under a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>different categories involved in the paranormal, various cryptids. But now

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<v Speaker 2>my main subject is Bigfoot, wildlife and Bigfoot. Now, if

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<v Speaker 2>I witness another cryptid that you know, we'll see something strange.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not afraid to admit that I've seen it. Hopefully

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<v Speaker 2>I would love to document it if it if that

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<v Speaker 2>becomes possible. So yeah, I mean I'm open to other cryptids.

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<v Speaker 2>Is just right now, my main focus, which has been

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<v Speaker 2>over the you know, the last thirteen plus years, is Bigfoot.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I mean, I like to. I mean, there's

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<v Speaker 2>a part of me that wants to start looking for

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<v Speaker 2>other things, but you know, here's my thing. When I'm

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<v Speaker 2>out exploring all my years of being in the woods.

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<v Speaker 2>The only evidence I had found of any big I

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<v Speaker 2>mean any cryptid would be Bigfoot itself, you know, apart

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<v Speaker 2>from known wildlife species, because I am always looking. And

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<v Speaker 2>here's the thing, as I tell people, I look for

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<v Speaker 2>the wildlife evidence because you know, to learn and know

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<v Speaker 2>what is known before seeking the unknown. To me, that's

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<v Speaker 2>very important because as we're observing and as we're looking,

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<v Speaker 2>if we could focus on what is known, the unknown

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<v Speaker 2>is going to stand apart. I mean, you want to

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<v Speaker 2>look for everything, want to be open minded, but you

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<v Speaker 2>also want to take your time and be very observant.

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<v Speaker 2>So as I'm looking, Yeah, my main of course, again,

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<v Speaker 2>my main focus is Bigfoot, and over the years I

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<v Speaker 2>have found large humanoid bipedal tracks. You know, I can't

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<v Speaker 2>say that I have ever come across anything other than

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<v Speaker 2>bigfoot as far as the cryptic goes. So but yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I will be open to look into other things if

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<v Speaker 2>I had to jump into something else. I think my

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<v Speaker 1>But I think for me, the dog man is the

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<v Speaker 1>one I find to be the most fascinating currently beause

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<v Speaker 1>they have different sightings that they've had up in Wisconsin

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<v Speaker 1>and everything else. So for me personally, I think the

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<v Speaker 1>dog man is So I've watched some of your your

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<v Speaker 1>like how you spot them and call them out instantaneously, like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is fake. You can tell it's from a suit,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like you can one hund percent tell that

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<v Speaker 1>the dog man cases, I don't hear too many hoaxes

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<v Speaker 1>about them, and I feel like the dog man itself

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<v Speaker 1>the on the concept of dog man, where do you

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<v Speaker 1>stand on something like that, Like Bigfoot's one thing? Because Bigfoot,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't really from some of the ports that I've read.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm by no means an expert, so please don't

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<v Speaker 1>times Bigfoot, when people get too close, they'll protect what's theirs, right,

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<v Speaker 1>they'll protect basically what's around them. I haven't heard them

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<v Speaker 1>getting too aggressive, though I've seen a couple of little

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<v Speaker 1>small reports here and there of like, you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>you get too close, But I feel like that's more

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<v Speaker 1>of a defense mechanism than it is an aggression mechanism.

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<v Speaker 1>But would dog Man. The reports that I've been getting

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<v Speaker 1>were very aggressive, like very like you felt something when

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<v Speaker 1>you saw them? What are your thoughts on dog Man?

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<v Speaker 1>And like that whole kind of concept.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, to be completely honest with you, as I tell

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people, I tend to stay away from that.

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<v Speaker 2>But this is where I stand on it. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, everyone's got their beliefs and whatnot. At this moment,

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<v Speaker 2>I honestly don't believe in dog Man. Even though I

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<v Speaker 2>don't believe, and it doesn't mean he does not exist,

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<v Speaker 2>but that's just my belief on the subject itself. However,

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<v Speaker 2>with my research and my exploring and my observations, not

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<v Speaker 2>once have I ever come across anything that would appear

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<v Speaker 2>to be of a large canine tract. The only canine

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<v Speaker 2>tracks I've ever witnessed or a verb were coyotes and

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<v Speaker 2>possible wolves. One of the biggest things I've seen, especially

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<v Speaker 2>on social media, in these dog man groups, I see

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<v Speaker 2>people picturing, sharing photos of feline tracks, very large feline tracks,

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<v Speaker 2>and calling them dog tracks or dog man tracks. And

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<v Speaker 2>see that's where my wildlife and bigfoot research comes into play,

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<v Speaker 2>or that phrase I shared earlier, Learn and know what

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<v Speaker 2>is known before seeking the unknown, because there's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of misidentification out there, a lot of misjudgments, a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people that are misinformed. Now there is a number

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<v Speaker 2>of people, including myself and some individuals of well known

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<v Speaker 2>I'll say without mentioning your name, but I've heard presentations

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<v Speaker 2>from others where people believe that what they believe to

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<v Speaker 2>be a dog man, they may be misidentifying a type

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<v Speaker 2>of bigfoot. It's believed that there are several different types

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<v Speaker 2>of bigfoot. I can't prove that, but I believe that's possible.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, as far as a dog man thing,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to keep that in open mind until I

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<v Speaker 2>find some evidence otherwise. I mean, right now, I'll just

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<v Speaker 2>have to say I can't right now. It's just I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not saying I won't, but I need. I would love

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<v Speaker 2>to jump on board with that, just like a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of other cryptids that are out there. I mean, come on,

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<v Speaker 2>they got they got a convention for frog Man. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, where is this? You know, where'd that

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<v Speaker 2>come about? You know? So? But yeah, yeah, I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>No, go ahead, So and I agree with you. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a person that, out of everything, I'm always wanted to say,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, let's find out what it could be

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<v Speaker 1>first before we delve into the unknown, and we have

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out what it might be. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>said that before. You know, if you've ever been into

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<v Speaker 1>like what they would say, a haunted house and you

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<v Speaker 1>hear a door slam, well, was the door at an angle?

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<v Speaker 1>So if you don't put something in front of said door,

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<v Speaker 1>the door will shut. It doesn't matter, you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>you don't put something from it. And I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of times you get a lot of researchers

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<v Speaker 1>in the field and not just not just a bigfoot

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<v Speaker 1>UFOs and everything else where they want. And you you

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<v Speaker 1>shared a quote I think that I saw either today

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<v Speaker 1>or yesterday that you want to believe something so bad

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<v Speaker 1>you're willing to turn that blind eye to something that

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<v Speaker 1>it probably isn't. So you're like, I want to believe

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<v Speaker 1>in it so bad that you know, it's got to be.

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<v Speaker 1>It's got to be real, right, got to be real,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. So you're like, you know, you could see

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<v Speaker 1>you know some some some some have fallen down and like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, it was a crop circle as aliens. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>no it is not what it is, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think I think, you know, I think we've

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<v Speaker 1>all kind of fallen victim to that in some ways.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I have in certain like nothing that I'll

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<v Speaker 1>like go out there and make videos about and try

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<v Speaker 1>to prove this out of the third but I have

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<v Speaker 1>gone on to research and been like, man, this has

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<v Speaker 1>got to be. It's gotta be. And then I'm like, nah,

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<v Speaker 1>this isn't it. And I got to kind of back

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<v Speaker 1>up and go back to square one with some of

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<v Speaker 1>the things that I have research, because you know it

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<v Speaker 1>it didn't. It didn't hit what I thought it was

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<v Speaker 1>going to hit. And I think I think putting aside

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<v Speaker 1>your your objectiveness to go back and and be able

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<v Speaker 1>to have like be able to open yourself up to

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<v Speaker 1>be like, hey, I got to see what all areas

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<v Speaker 1>of this could be, because I don't want to be

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<v Speaker 1>stuck in my own belief system, you know. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's good talking to other people because then you

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<v Speaker 1>get a better sense of what's going on now. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I said earlier, I think the one thing, like one

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<v Speaker 1>scammers and I don't I don't see a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people doing that. You know. Of course everybody will say,

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<v Speaker 1>well this is a hoax, that's a hoax, but you

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<v Speaker 1>call them out by name, and I got to say, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I respect that because like, you know, if you're in

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<v Speaker 1>a field that you know that that you know everybody's

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<v Speaker 1>you know kind of they're they're already kind of making

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<v Speaker 1>fun of it a bit. People don't believe skeptics and

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<v Speaker 1>all that, with the first ones to be like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>that's you know, what are they doing out in the

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<v Speaker 1>woods right right? So I think like culling your own

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<v Speaker 1>herd is something that you have to do warning into

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<v Speaker 1>something that big. What makes you want to call these

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<v Speaker 1>people out, like when you say, like, man, this is fake,

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<v Speaker 1>behind that?

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<v Speaker 2>For you? Well, I thank you for asking that, because,

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<v Speaker 2>first of all, I do want to specify or clarify

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm not trying to be a bully, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>but people are being misled. There's global Nazi people that

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<v Speaker 2>will follow these people because it's fascinating, it's intriguing. It's

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<v Speaker 2>these hoaxures and these people pulling this stuff. They know

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<v Speaker 2>what it takes to entertain the people. They know for

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<v Speaker 2>a fact that there's gullible people that believe anything on

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<v Speaker 2>the web. You know, they jump on it. Well, two,

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<v Speaker 2>it's bringing them views. You know, there's some of these

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<v Speaker 2>YouTube channels, I mean mine is mine monetized, but some

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<v Speaker 2>of these other YouTube channels are got big numbers and

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<v Speaker 2>they're monetized. They do whatever is necessary to bring in

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<v Speaker 2>the views. Therefore they're making that money. You know, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>familiar with what some of the money they made, you know. So,

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<v Speaker 2>so you got people will taking a known hoaxer's video

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<v Speaker 2>footage and use it and share it around under their

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<v Speaker 2>own monetorization. Now to me, that's supporting that hoaxer, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>regardless of how you use it. I and I've been

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<v Speaker 2>I've been attacked for that. I have been, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to say I created enemies, but I've

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<v Speaker 2>been shunned by people, some of my own friends. So hey,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't be doing that to them. That's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they're only doing it for this purpose, and this doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 2>They're sharing their hopes, you know, people, people are believing

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<v Speaker 2>in it, you know. And that's what I find it

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<v Speaker 2>offensive because I care about the subject so much. I

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<v Speaker 2>care about the truth, regardless of what that truth might be.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to put the truth out there if it's known.

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<v Speaker 2>And so again, a big part of it is I

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<v Speaker 2>feel offended by people that are gullible, you know. I like,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of scams and a lot of hopeses,

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<v Speaker 2>not just in the bigfoot world, but you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>see people sharing all these pet scams, lost pets. It's

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<v Speaker 2>all a bunch of bs, you know. But yeah, as

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<v Speaker 2>far as the Bigfoot thing, I mean, Sonny Vader, everybody's

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<v Speaker 2>sharing Sonny Vader's videos around he's a known hoaxer. He's

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<v Speaker 2>been kind, but you know what, they like to use

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<v Speaker 2>his video footage. You know, Sonny Vader is a genius

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<v Speaker 2>because his video clips are only no more than two

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<v Speaker 2>minutes long at the most, and he's getting ten to

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<v Speaker 2>twenty thousand views per video. And I can only imagine

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<v Speaker 2>what he's wilet looks like right now. So that's just

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<v Speaker 2>one example. So that's where I go with at.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, and and that's the thing I think, especially

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<v Speaker 1>when we're dealing with and fields that we love, you

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<v Speaker 1>on and then you have guys that come in and

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<v Speaker 1>they kind of shortcut themselves to the top of the line, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And so when they shortcut their way, they don't do

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<v Speaker 1>the research. They haven't been in the same places that

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of us have. And they haven't been you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they haven't been there. When when the research doesn't pan out,

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<v Speaker 1>and you get dejected and you get you know, beat down,

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<v Speaker 1>You're like, I I gotta go to I gotta find

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<v Speaker 1>another avenue. You know, it's not an easy thing for us,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, and I appreciate people that you know, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of there's a lot of podcasters like

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<v Speaker 1>but he's not feeling enough to. I said, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>take the night off. Of course this stuff, this stuff

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<v Speaker 1>happens when he takes the night off. I think he

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<v Speaker 1>cursed the show. No, I'm kidding, But there's a there's

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<v Speaker 1>a there's a lot of people. See we we know

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of people in the in this in a similar

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<v Speaker 1>podcasting vein that that they always take cheap shots at us.

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<v Speaker 1>I've we've never done anything to these people. I had

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<v Speaker 1>one of them on the show. You can go back

417
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<v Speaker 1>in the episodes, and we've done nothing but big them

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<v Speaker 1>up on all of our episodes. They got a bone

419
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<v Speaker 1>to pick with us, they got a chip on their shoulder.

420
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<v Speaker 1>I'm not here for it. I'm not here for whatever

421
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<v Speaker 1>business they want to do. They they don't concern me, right,

422
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<v Speaker 1>so I'm not going to give them the spotlight. You know,

423
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<v Speaker 1>And I think what I enjoy about people like yourself

424
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<v Speaker 1>is you expose people and say, hey, you know you're

425
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<v Speaker 1>not you're not getting this. You know, this is this.

426
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<v Speaker 1>You didn't earn that. And I feel the same that way.

427
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<v Speaker 1>You know, It's it's easy to sit behind a microphone

428
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<v Speaker 1>and a camera and talk for hours. Shoot, I do

429
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<v Speaker 1>that all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>I can do all the right.

431
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<v Speaker 1>It's going out and doing the research and meeting people

432
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<v Speaker 1>and going to these places in speaking and meeting people

433
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<v Speaker 1>that actually have had encounters, people that have actually seen

434
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<v Speaker 1>these things, you know, people that have been through occurrences

435
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<v Speaker 1>that most people can't explain. And I think that is

436
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<v Speaker 1>what I respect about folks like yourself, Folks like les Odell.

437
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<v Speaker 1>Big shouts out to less Odell. He's you know, he's

438
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<v Speaker 1>another one that he'll go out there. If you got

439
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<v Speaker 1>something going on, he'll show up. You know, he's been known.

440
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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, absolutely, Yeah. I've had him at one of

441
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<v Speaker 2>my local little meetups I've had here in Pennsylvania. He's

442
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<v Speaker 2>one of my speakers coming up in May. So yeah,

443
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<v Speaker 2>I mean I spoke with him in West Virginia other

444
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<v Speaker 2>at the West Virginia Big Suce Festival. Yeah, he's a

445
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<v Speaker 2>great guy. Oh, real quick, real quick. I wanted to

446
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<v Speaker 2>make mention you know how you mentioned like you do

447
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<v Speaker 2>a lot of talking behind the screen or on the screen.

448
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<v Speaker 2>People like you are like like, well, let me pinpoint

449
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<v Speaker 2>just you and direct more directly. People need to listen

450
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<v Speaker 2>to you more because from my observation and having you

451
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<v Speaker 2>on my show, you're very intelligent. You're full of information,

452
00:26:05.680 --> 00:26:08.400
<v Speaker 2>you're educational. People need to hear that more, you know,

453
00:26:08.920 --> 00:26:11.559
<v Speaker 2>And so yeah, we need more people like you, you know.

454
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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, don't put yourself down when it comes down.

455
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, but yeah, absolutely so any of mine. I

456
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<v Speaker 2>shared this around. Anybody that's with my channel yet subscribe,

457
00:26:24.279 --> 00:26:26.319
<v Speaker 2>subscribe to the Gentleman right here. You need to hear

458
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<v Speaker 2>more of them.

459
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<v Speaker 1>And I have one appreciate that. Thank you. I've been

460
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<v Speaker 1>doing it for a long time. I've been reading books,

461
00:26:35.400 --> 00:26:37.680
<v Speaker 1>I've been studying. I've been doing all sorts of research.

462
00:26:38.200 --> 00:26:43.480
<v Speaker 1>I have books on everything you can imagine, everything from

463
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<v Speaker 1>religion to bigfoot to UFOs to you name it. I've

464
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<v Speaker 1>got it. It's sitting. If you can find it in

465
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<v Speaker 1>the library, it's here. If you can't, it'll be here.

466
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<v Speaker 1>And you know, two to three business weeks. Because a

467
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<v Speaker 1>lot of the books I get I have to order

468
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<v Speaker 1>from places and they're not.

469
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<v Speaker 2>Cheap, so oh imagine.

470
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<v Speaker 1>But I prize knowledge over everything. I'm not going to

471
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<v Speaker 1>go into a conversation with somebody and that's why, you know.

472
00:27:06.920 --> 00:27:08.359
<v Speaker 1>And I want to give a big shout out to

473
00:27:08.400 --> 00:27:09.799
<v Speaker 1>you for having me on the show. Thank you. That

474
00:27:09.839 --> 00:27:11.599
<v Speaker 1>meant that means a lot to me. I love when

475
00:27:11.599 --> 00:27:13.079
<v Speaker 1>people hit me up like, hey, you want to be

476
00:27:13.079 --> 00:27:15.079
<v Speaker 1>on the show. Yes, I love to talk, so let's

477
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<v Speaker 1>you know. And and I love it. I love doing this.

478
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<v Speaker 1>I love speaking at engagements because I want people to

479
00:27:21.680 --> 00:27:25.599
<v Speaker 1>hear what I have researched, what I've been working on,

480
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<v Speaker 1>what I have coming up. Because a lot of the

481
00:27:27.880 --> 00:27:31.000
<v Speaker 1>stuff that I'm into is very deep stuff, you know.

482
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<v Speaker 1>I try. I try to get into things and put

483
00:27:33.799 --> 00:27:36.319
<v Speaker 1>stuff out there that not a lot of people may

484
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<v Speaker 1>know about, you know, giants being one of those. You know,

485
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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people know about Bigfoot. A lot of

486
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<v Speaker 1>people will rot verse in bigfoot folks as yourself. And

487
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<v Speaker 1>I was like, you know what I want to talk

488
00:27:47.279 --> 00:27:49.559
<v Speaker 1>about giants. I think that I think that is is

489
00:27:49.640 --> 00:27:52.240
<v Speaker 1>the I think people need to know about that because,

490
00:27:52.279 --> 00:27:54.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, having research and having read reports of the

491
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<v Speaker 1>Smithsonian coming in and taking bodies, removing whole bodies of

492
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<v Speaker 1>giant skeletons and going to dig sites and pulling, pulling multiple,

493
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<v Speaker 1>multiple skeletons, nine to twelve feet tall people, you know,

494
00:28:10.319 --> 00:28:13.559
<v Speaker 1>sometimes tall I think fifteen feet at one point was

495
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<v Speaker 1>one of the taller ones that I'd read about. And

496
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<v Speaker 1>this is in places that are close to me. This

497
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<v Speaker 1>is Ohio, this is you know, West Virginia, this Pennsylvania,

498
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<v Speaker 1>this is in Virginia. You had I think as far

499
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<v Speaker 1>south as like Georgia, maybe Florida, and then you have

500
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<v Speaker 1>as far west as Phenom mistaken parts in Arizona and

501
00:28:33.440 --> 00:28:36.799
<v Speaker 1>other places of that nature. So like, when I meet

502
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<v Speaker 1>people have that passion for something like you do, like

503
00:28:40.160 --> 00:28:43.039
<v Speaker 1>less does like folks like that do. I gravitate to

504
00:28:43.079 --> 00:28:44.880
<v Speaker 1>people like that because I like to learn from you guys,

505
00:28:44.920 --> 00:28:48.039
<v Speaker 1>because I don't. I'm not well versed in bigfoot. That's

506
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<v Speaker 1>one of the few areas that I could always I mean,

507
00:28:50.400 --> 00:28:52.920
<v Speaker 1>I could always stand to learn more in everything I do.

508
00:28:52.960 --> 00:28:55.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm not an next one on anything. I don't want

509
00:28:55.200 --> 00:28:58.839
<v Speaker 1>to be considered an expert on on things that you know,

510
00:28:59.039 --> 00:29:01.400
<v Speaker 1>you can't be in next it on, you know, until

511
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<v Speaker 1>you've actually had an experience, and there's people that have

512
00:29:06.079 --> 00:29:10.079
<v Speaker 1>had them and then there's people that haven't. And if

513
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<v Speaker 1>you call yourself an expert and you've never had an experience,

514
00:29:13.799 --> 00:29:16.680
<v Speaker 1>are you really an expert at the end of the day,

515
00:29:16.759 --> 00:29:19.799
<v Speaker 1>you know? And that's something for me because I would

516
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<v Speaker 1>love to go out in the woods with some of

517
00:29:21.559 --> 00:29:24.279
<v Speaker 1>you guys, and and because I'm always open to going

518
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<v Speaker 1>out in the field. I'm as much as I love

519
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<v Speaker 1>being warm in my house, I would love to go

520
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<v Speaker 1>out and and see and hear. Because as much as

521
00:29:33.839 --> 00:29:36.440
<v Speaker 1>people can say, hey, you know, I saw a big foot,

522
00:29:37.000 --> 00:29:38.799
<v Speaker 1>I was in the woods, I heard a tree knock,

523
00:29:38.880 --> 00:29:41.279
<v Speaker 1>I heard a howl. I heard this, or that you

524
00:29:41.400 --> 00:29:44.480
<v Speaker 1>heard it, I didn't hear it. And until I hear

525
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<v Speaker 1>it or experience it, it's harder for me to believe.

526
00:29:48.119 --> 00:29:51.079
<v Speaker 1>And I think, right, I think by going out in

527
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<v Speaker 1>these fields with folks, I think that's something that everybody

528
00:29:54.000 --> 00:29:56.519
<v Speaker 1>can do. But not to get too far off topic here,

529
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<v Speaker 1>I think that that being knowledgeable it takes time. I'm

530
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<v Speaker 1>an effort.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

532
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<v Speaker 1>I've been reading up on stuff since I was I

533
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<v Speaker 1>was probably five or six. I was learning to read.

534
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<v Speaker 1>And one of the first books learned how to read

535
00:30:10.119 --> 00:30:13.480
<v Speaker 1>was was a time Life Western book and it showed

536
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<v Speaker 1>the dead bodies of outlaws that they would post up

537
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<v Speaker 1>in front of different places for two reasons. One to

538
00:30:19.880 --> 00:30:24.799
<v Speaker 1>the tour would be would be Roberts, and two to

539
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<v Speaker 1>tell the city, Hey, it's safe. It's safe. You don't

540
00:30:28.200 --> 00:30:30.480
<v Speaker 1>got to worry about these people anymore. They're not out there.

541
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<v Speaker 1>And for those who would be out there doing this,

542
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<v Speaker 1>we will put a bullet in your head too. And

543
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<v Speaker 1>from then on it just kind of like that bit

544
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<v Speaker 1>of macab I guess just kind of went into that direction.

545
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<v Speaker 1>And so as I got older, I started researching UFOs,

546
00:30:44.880 --> 00:30:52.160
<v Speaker 1>I started researching ghosts, spirits. I've been researching darn nearly

547
00:30:52.200 --> 00:30:56.759
<v Speaker 1>every religion on the planet. I researched he and Low

548
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<v Speaker 1>because I think when we really want to sit down

549
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<v Speaker 1>and look for the unknown, the unknown is my favorite thing. Like,

550
00:31:04.119 --> 00:31:07.880
<v Speaker 1>oh the unknown. I enjoy it because everybody goes along

551
00:31:07.960 --> 00:31:10.319
<v Speaker 1>with their lives and they come home, they watch news

552
00:31:10.400 --> 00:31:12.319
<v Speaker 1>or they watch sports, and they go to sleep, and

553
00:31:12.359 --> 00:31:14.119
<v Speaker 1>they get up, they do the nine to five and

554
00:31:14.160 --> 00:31:17.200
<v Speaker 1>they watch news, watch sports, go to sleep. While I'm

555
00:31:17.200 --> 00:31:19.440
<v Speaker 1>saying there's nothing wrong with any of those things, mind you,

556
00:31:19.480 --> 00:31:23.440
<v Speaker 1>I have a job as well. I think that having

557
00:31:23.480 --> 00:31:26.319
<v Speaker 1>that love for the unknown and wanting to explore. I

558
00:31:26.359 --> 00:31:28.839
<v Speaker 1>think makes your life better in my personal opinion, I

559
00:31:28.839 --> 00:31:31.519
<v Speaker 1>can't volage for anybody else by myself, but I think

560
00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:34.319
<v Speaker 1>that it makes your life better. You know, I think that.

561
00:31:35.720 --> 00:31:37.279
<v Speaker 1>I think it's just I think it's a good thing.

562
00:31:37.319 --> 00:31:40.000
<v Speaker 1>And I think having the knowledge of these things, you know,

563
00:31:40.079 --> 00:31:44.920
<v Speaker 1>going into something and being knowledgeable, or if you if

564
00:31:44.960 --> 00:31:48.359
<v Speaker 1>you are not knowledgeable, then go into places, go into

565
00:31:48.400 --> 00:31:53.640
<v Speaker 1>these speaking events here folks like Daniel, but soak in

566
00:31:53.720 --> 00:31:56.359
<v Speaker 1>the knowledge like a sponge so that you can understand it.

567
00:31:56.680 --> 00:31:59.119
<v Speaker 1>So next time you're around your friends and maybe somebody

568
00:31:59.119 --> 00:32:01.920
<v Speaker 1>mentions like, hey, what do you think about bigfoot? While

569
00:32:02.000 --> 00:32:04.599
<v Speaker 1>some of your other friends might not get it, you'll

570
00:32:04.599 --> 00:32:07.359
<v Speaker 1>get it, so then you can have that conversation. Okay,

571
00:32:07.440 --> 00:32:09.839
<v Speaker 1>now you've got a friend. Now you too are investigating.

572
00:32:10.119 --> 00:32:12.680
<v Speaker 1>Now you too have set up a little YouTube channel.

573
00:32:12.920 --> 00:32:14.680
<v Speaker 1>Now you're out in the woods doing it. I think

574
00:32:14.720 --> 00:32:16.920
<v Speaker 1>it just betters your life overall.

575
00:32:17.000 --> 00:32:21.480
<v Speaker 2>Right, Well, like with me along the lines with what

576
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<v Speaker 2>you say, Like I have my fields. There's various field

577
00:32:23.920 --> 00:32:26.519
<v Speaker 2>topics that I like to read and study on as well.

578
00:32:26.720 --> 00:32:29.799
<v Speaker 2>And you know, and I personally it gives me the

579
00:32:29.839 --> 00:32:31.759
<v Speaker 2>knowledge and understanding of things that I don't get to

580
00:32:31.839 --> 00:32:36.200
<v Speaker 2>witness in person sometimes for example, real quickly. I mean,

581
00:32:36.240 --> 00:32:38.440
<v Speaker 2>I do a lot of studies, not just on wildlife

582
00:32:38.839 --> 00:32:45.839
<v Speaker 2>in various species, but primates, non human primates, gorillas, champanzees, baboon,

583
00:32:46.319 --> 00:32:50.160
<v Speaker 2>bona bo, you know, all the various species rangutans. I

584
00:32:50.279 --> 00:32:53.240
<v Speaker 2>like to read and study on their known behaviors, what

585
00:32:53.279 --> 00:32:56.880
<v Speaker 2>they've been observed in witness, you know, performing and doing it,

586
00:32:57.400 --> 00:33:01.079
<v Speaker 2>and learning about their diets. I do that. I find,

587
00:33:01.200 --> 00:33:04.359
<v Speaker 2>you know, I find for me personally it's necessary to

588
00:33:04.400 --> 00:33:08.920
<v Speaker 2>me to understand them because I like to compare their behaviors,

589
00:33:08.960 --> 00:33:13.559
<v Speaker 2>their characteristics and everything in between along with what we

590
00:33:13.680 --> 00:33:16.839
<v Speaker 2>compare and relate to big put. The reason behind that

591
00:33:17.000 --> 00:33:22.440
<v Speaker 2>is I find a lot of similarities we're reporting about bigfoot. Well, look,

592
00:33:22.559 --> 00:33:26.200
<v Speaker 2>there is a known species that's already familiar, that's already

593
00:33:26.200 --> 00:33:30.519
<v Speaker 2>known for doing this. But with that being said, I'm

594
00:33:30.559 --> 00:33:34.160
<v Speaker 2>not making Bigwoot equal to them. But there's that line

595
00:33:34.160 --> 00:33:37.880
<v Speaker 2>of primate I want to keep open. But but you know,

596
00:33:38.160 --> 00:33:40.680
<v Speaker 2>just throwing that out there where, that's where it gives

597
00:33:40.680 --> 00:33:44.680
<v Speaker 2>me knowledge to understand the species of primates. You know,

598
00:33:45.160 --> 00:33:48.759
<v Speaker 2>people say human or primates so wish we are scientifically speaking,

599
00:33:49.400 --> 00:33:54.720
<v Speaker 2>so but yeah, jumping onto other things you cover there too.

600
00:33:54.799 --> 00:33:57.400
<v Speaker 2>You know. It's like, regardless of what field you're in,

601
00:33:57.440 --> 00:33:59.400
<v Speaker 2>you've got to have a passion, well not just a passion,

602
00:33:59.440 --> 00:34:01.079
<v Speaker 2>but you're going to way of doing it. You know,

603
00:34:01.240 --> 00:34:04.240
<v Speaker 2>if you can enjoy doing it, that's a big plus

604
00:34:04.319 --> 00:34:07.519
<v Speaker 2>right there, because I can learn and read and study

605
00:34:07.640 --> 00:34:11.159
<v Speaker 2>and gain all this knowledge, you know, and then having

606
00:34:11.199 --> 00:34:13.559
<v Speaker 2>the experiences in the field with a bigfoot, you know

607
00:34:14.159 --> 00:34:17.440
<v Speaker 2>topic as I tell people like you said yourself, and

608
00:34:17.480 --> 00:34:20.280
<v Speaker 2>I can speak for myself that I'm not an expert either,

609
00:34:20.639 --> 00:34:24.000
<v Speaker 2>you know. I like to share my views and my beliefs,

610
00:34:24.079 --> 00:34:27.119
<v Speaker 2>and then I'll go along and share my experiences. And

611
00:34:27.920 --> 00:34:32.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, some of us have more experiences experiences than

612
00:34:32.079 --> 00:34:35.280
<v Speaker 2>others where we can say, well, I witness Bigfoot doing this,

613
00:34:35.880 --> 00:34:39.760
<v Speaker 2>But most of these claims come from people's personal beliefs

614
00:34:39.800 --> 00:34:42.199
<v Speaker 2>and say, no, Bigfoot doesn't do that, Bigfoot does this.

615
00:34:42.559 --> 00:34:44.360
<v Speaker 2>But yet these are the same people say I'm not

616
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<v Speaker 2>an expert. Well you never witnessed this, so how do

617
00:34:47.440 --> 00:34:49.960
<v Speaker 2>you know. So there's a lot of that going on

618
00:34:50.000 --> 00:34:52.119
<v Speaker 2>in the bigfoot world in the community, you know. So,

619
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<v Speaker 2>I mean I know people that will tell you all

620
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<v Speaker 2>these facts out of their mouth, but where are they

621
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<v Speaker 2>getting your facts from? They didn't witness facts. You know,

622
00:35:00.800 --> 00:35:04.280
<v Speaker 2>they didn't witness that. But you know, you know, because

623
00:35:04.280 --> 00:35:05.840
<v Speaker 2>I'll ask people, I said, did you see big for

624
00:35:06.000 --> 00:35:08.639
<v Speaker 2>doing that? Tell me about it. No, I didn't see him.

625
00:35:09.000 --> 00:35:12.079
<v Speaker 2>How do you know? That's That's my whole point. And

626
00:35:12.119 --> 00:35:14.079
<v Speaker 2>you know, and I won't call people out directly on

627
00:35:14.119 --> 00:35:16.079
<v Speaker 2>stuff like that, but I'll question them back to get

628
00:35:16.079 --> 00:35:18.800
<v Speaker 2>them to realize what they're saying sometimes, because I don't

629
00:35:18.840 --> 00:35:21.039
<v Speaker 2>think they all intentionally mean to come across as that.

630
00:35:21.679 --> 00:35:24.480
<v Speaker 2>Because big Put's a fun subject. We want to be

631
00:35:24.480 --> 00:35:26.800
<v Speaker 2>able to come across to our peers and those who

632
00:35:26.880 --> 00:35:30.719
<v Speaker 2>might be following us as very knowledgeable. I do. I

633
00:35:30.800 --> 00:35:33.000
<v Speaker 2>like to do that too, but I try to throw

634
00:35:33.079 --> 00:35:35.239
<v Speaker 2>facts out and explain why I'm saying what I'm saying.

635
00:35:35.639 --> 00:35:40.039
<v Speaker 2>This is why I believe this. And you know, now, yes,

636
00:35:40.119 --> 00:35:44.239
<v Speaker 2>I've experienced tree knocks. I've gotten responses from mine and

637
00:35:45.079 --> 00:35:49.599
<v Speaker 2>other various occurrences. But when you experience enough of them,

638
00:35:50.039 --> 00:35:52.159
<v Speaker 2>you kind of draw your own conclusion on what they

639
00:35:52.320 --> 00:35:55.400
<v Speaker 2>might be, for what they might mean. You know, I

640
00:35:55.440 --> 00:35:58.719
<v Speaker 2>still can't prove what they might be, although I have

641
00:36:00.320 --> 00:36:03.719
<v Speaker 2>my belief in them. You know, you know, some people

642
00:36:03.760 --> 00:36:05.519
<v Speaker 2>say it's this or that. You know, it could be.

643
00:36:06.039 --> 00:36:09.079
<v Speaker 2>There's always that possibility, just like when I find things

644
00:36:09.079 --> 00:36:11.960
<v Speaker 2>in nature that I find that, Okay, this is odd.

645
00:36:12.559 --> 00:36:14.599
<v Speaker 2>I don't think. I don't think weather did this. I

646
00:36:14.599 --> 00:36:16.920
<v Speaker 2>don't think you know, some of these things I find

647
00:36:17.360 --> 00:36:20.719
<v Speaker 2>tree structures and formations, for example, okay, something with a

648
00:36:20.800 --> 00:36:25.639
<v Speaker 2>postable phone, something or someone possibly made this and had

649
00:36:25.920 --> 00:36:30.039
<v Speaker 2>put the work and effort into this. I have videos

650
00:36:30.079 --> 00:36:35.079
<v Speaker 2>I put together for educational purposes on all these shelters

651
00:36:35.079 --> 00:36:37.880
<v Speaker 2>and structors that people find and post pictures of. I

652
00:36:37.960 --> 00:36:40.840
<v Speaker 2>have found them too. But guess what, I'm not going

653
00:36:40.840 --> 00:36:43.480
<v Speaker 2>to tell you Bigfoot did them because here's in the

654
00:36:43.559 --> 00:36:46.239
<v Speaker 2>video as I show people, Look a look at this

655
00:36:46.280 --> 00:36:48.960
<v Speaker 2>guy gathering all these sticks. Look at the shelter he

656
00:36:49.039 --> 00:36:52.199
<v Speaker 2>put together. These are the same shelters and structures that

657
00:36:52.199 --> 00:36:54.440
<v Speaker 2>people say, I find a Bigfoot shelter. This is a

658
00:36:54.440 --> 00:36:57.320
<v Speaker 2>big phone. You know. I try to show people the

659
00:36:57.360 --> 00:36:59.559
<v Speaker 2>objective side of things. Why are you saying Bigfoot did that?

660
00:36:59.599 --> 00:37:01.760
<v Speaker 2>He did it? Miss Bigfoot making that? But look, I'm

661
00:37:01.760 --> 00:37:05.599
<v Speaker 2>showing a video of a human being building that you know.

662
00:37:06.199 --> 00:37:09.360
<v Speaker 2>So I just try to get people to understand and

663
00:37:09.400 --> 00:37:11.719
<v Speaker 2>open their minds and stop thinking bigfoot. Get big foot

664
00:37:11.760 --> 00:37:15.239
<v Speaker 2>off your brain, you know, because I mean that's the

665
00:37:15.239 --> 00:37:17.880
<v Speaker 2>one thing people ask me. I've had young people and

666
00:37:17.920 --> 00:37:19.480
<v Speaker 2>all the people ask me, well, hey, I want to

667
00:37:19.480 --> 00:37:21.840
<v Speaker 2>get more involved with bigfoot research. I want to start

668
00:37:21.840 --> 00:37:26.119
<v Speaker 2>looking for bigfoot. What should I do? Well? One of

669
00:37:26.119 --> 00:37:28.159
<v Speaker 2>the basic steps I tell of them as far as

670
00:37:28.440 --> 00:37:30.920
<v Speaker 2>pick an area of interest, get familiar with it, the terrain,

671
00:37:31.079 --> 00:37:33.559
<v Speaker 2>and and to lay out of the land, get to

672
00:37:33.599 --> 00:37:37.519
<v Speaker 2>know what wildlife and you know inhabits that area. Number one.

673
00:37:37.559 --> 00:37:39.880
<v Speaker 2>You know, the main thing at all when you step

674
00:37:39.920 --> 00:37:41.960
<v Speaker 2>foot out there, don't think about bigfoot. Get big foot

675
00:37:42.000 --> 00:37:45.000
<v Speaker 2>off your brain. You know, if the unknown is going

676
00:37:45.039 --> 00:37:47.079
<v Speaker 2>to be available, if it's going to make yourself known,

677
00:37:47.280 --> 00:37:49.400
<v Speaker 2>or you find that evidence that stands apart from all

678
00:37:49.400 --> 00:37:53.880
<v Speaker 2>the all of the known, you know, obvious suspects, you

679
00:37:53.920 --> 00:37:56.280
<v Speaker 2>know the unknown is going to stand apart. You know,

680
00:37:56.800 --> 00:37:58.679
<v Speaker 2>then you could question your head, scratch your head and

681
00:37:59.239 --> 00:38:02.360
<v Speaker 2>document what's this like? Sometimes I find things I'm not

682
00:38:02.360 --> 00:38:04.480
<v Speaker 2>sure what I'm finding. I'll take pictures of it, I'll

683
00:38:04.480 --> 00:38:07.880
<v Speaker 2>share it for observation and you know, discussion purposes. But

684
00:38:08.840 --> 00:38:12.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, but yeah, that's just me. Yeah, like I said,

685
00:38:14.199 --> 00:38:17.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, I've I've been I've been called an expert.

686
00:38:18.079 --> 00:38:21.079
<v Speaker 2>Some people, you know, come back and call me in

687
00:38:21.119 --> 00:38:24.159
<v Speaker 2>a sarcastic way, Oh, you must be an expert. I said, No,

688
00:38:24.320 --> 00:38:26.599
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to teach you something or explain something very

689
00:38:26.639 --> 00:38:29.760
<v Speaker 2>critical and logical to you that you're just totally dismissing

690
00:38:29.760 --> 00:38:32.320
<v Speaker 2>and not getting the point of. You know, No, just

691
00:38:32.360 --> 00:38:37.239
<v Speaker 2>by me pointing out other known facts against Bigfoot doesn't

692
00:38:37.239 --> 00:38:39.599
<v Speaker 2>make me an expert. But you know, it's just I

693
00:38:39.679 --> 00:38:41.840
<v Speaker 2>like to believe I have common sense, you know, in

694
00:38:41.920 --> 00:38:45.800
<v Speaker 2>simple awareness, you know, you know. So, yeah, I've been

695
00:38:46.239 --> 00:38:48.280
<v Speaker 2>accused of a lot of different things, you know. I've

696
00:38:48.320 --> 00:38:51.239
<v Speaker 2>even been accused of being a hoaxer, you know, but

697
00:38:51.960 --> 00:38:56.599
<v Speaker 2>I don't have nothing to show that's hoaxworthy. I mean,

698
00:38:57.280 --> 00:39:00.280
<v Speaker 2>you know, a lot of my findings are not not

699
00:39:00.320 --> 00:39:03.840
<v Speaker 2>like what other people share, you know. Yeah. I used

700
00:39:03.840 --> 00:39:05.599
<v Speaker 2>to find a lot of tracks over the years in

701
00:39:05.639 --> 00:39:10.440
<v Speaker 2>the National Forest in Virginia. You know. My fiancee, Julie,

702
00:39:10.719 --> 00:39:14.639
<v Speaker 2>we've been exploring up here in Pennsylvania and we're walking along,

703
00:39:14.760 --> 00:39:19.079
<v Speaker 2>I'll spot something, I'll stop, stop, look down the ground.

704
00:39:19.159 --> 00:39:22.000
<v Speaker 2>Do you see what I'm saying. Look, there's this looks

705
00:39:22.039 --> 00:39:24.960
<v Speaker 2>like a track, and some of them are very detailed,

706
00:39:25.039 --> 00:39:28.559
<v Speaker 2>you know. And you know, I know she's only just

707
00:39:28.599 --> 00:39:31.079
<v Speaker 2>one one witness to seeing that stuff. But I find

708
00:39:31.119 --> 00:39:33.599
<v Speaker 2>I do find tracks, you know. You know, some of

709
00:39:33.599 --> 00:39:38.000
<v Speaker 2>these are very impressive looking, you know, you know, and

710
00:39:38.039 --> 00:39:40.320
<v Speaker 2>she sees for herself, you know, she gets excited. You know,

711
00:39:40.480 --> 00:39:43.239
<v Speaker 2>we'll take pictures of them. But unfortunately, pictures don't do

712
00:39:43.360 --> 00:39:46.320
<v Speaker 2>justice when it comes to tracks. And a lot of

713
00:39:46.320 --> 00:39:50.000
<v Speaker 2>people that does enough photography in nature, and someone when

714
00:39:50.000 --> 00:39:53.440
<v Speaker 2>it comes a big for tracks, realizes this unless there's

715
00:39:53.440 --> 00:39:55.719
<v Speaker 2>a clear track in the open mud or dirt, you know.

716
00:39:55.760 --> 00:39:59.079
<v Speaker 2>But a lot of your impressions in the ground, walking

717
00:39:59.079 --> 00:40:01.360
<v Speaker 2>through the forest. It could be a number of things,

718
00:40:01.400 --> 00:40:04.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, But you know, you know, my biggest thing

719
00:40:04.039 --> 00:40:06.559
<v Speaker 2>I hear a lot of when you tell people, oh,

720
00:40:06.599 --> 00:40:08.599
<v Speaker 2>that's a bear. Oh we don't have bears in our erea.

721
00:40:09.639 --> 00:40:12.039
<v Speaker 2>Just because you don't see him doesn't mean they're not there.

722
00:40:12.119 --> 00:40:15.400
<v Speaker 2>Bears they're very elusive to you know, right right. They

723
00:40:15.440 --> 00:40:16.599
<v Speaker 2>don't like to come around people.

724
00:40:17.480 --> 00:40:20.480
<v Speaker 1>No, they don't like leave alone, leave alone. They'll leave

725
00:40:20.519 --> 00:40:23.280
<v Speaker 1>you alone. I've only seen one bear in my maybe

726
00:40:23.320 --> 00:40:26.320
<v Speaker 1>two in my life. And the one I saw was

727
00:40:26.360 --> 00:40:28.840
<v Speaker 1>in West Virginia. It was a baby bear and it

728
00:40:28.880 --> 00:40:31.719
<v Speaker 1>was off. It was off on the shore. We were

729
00:40:31.719 --> 00:40:33.719
<v Speaker 1>on a boat going down the Elk River and we

730
00:40:33.840 --> 00:40:36.199
<v Speaker 1>was off on the shore and I saw the bear

731
00:40:36.239 --> 00:40:38.679
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, Mama is not far behind. Mama was

732
00:40:38.800 --> 00:40:41.480
<v Speaker 1>in there because he was playing. And I'm like, if

733
00:40:41.480 --> 00:40:42.920
<v Speaker 1>you go over there and mess with that bear, I

734
00:40:42.960 --> 00:40:47.480
<v Speaker 1>guarantee something something else gonna come and get you. But yeah,

735
00:40:47.599 --> 00:40:50.079
<v Speaker 1>I know, that's the only thing I've ever seen and

736
00:40:50.400 --> 00:40:53.719
<v Speaker 1>the one thing that I because we've had Amy Boo

737
00:40:53.840 --> 00:40:58.320
<v Speaker 1>on the show and she she's really knowledgeable about Bigfoot,

738
00:40:58.760 --> 00:41:01.800
<v Speaker 1>and we've had couple of different conversations back and forth.

739
00:41:01.800 --> 00:41:03.719
<v Speaker 1>And what I like is when they is when people

740
00:41:03.719 --> 00:41:08.840
<v Speaker 1>pull up the plaster casts of the of the tracks,

741
00:41:09.119 --> 00:41:13.119
<v Speaker 1>those those fascet me to no end because I'm like, Okay,

742
00:41:13.880 --> 00:41:15.719
<v Speaker 1>this doesn't look like a bear's paul. You know, a

743
00:41:15.760 --> 00:41:18.880
<v Speaker 1>bear's paul is rather, for the most part, is a

744
00:41:18.920 --> 00:41:21.760
<v Speaker 1>fatter paul than one of the other ones. And and

745
00:41:21.840 --> 00:41:24.639
<v Speaker 1>to where the bigfoot looks like it's more elongated and

746
00:41:24.760 --> 00:41:26.679
<v Speaker 1>some yeah than some plaster casts.

747
00:41:27.039 --> 00:41:30.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And usually a wider heel. Bears have a very now, uh,

748
00:41:30.880 --> 00:41:33.559
<v Speaker 2>a very narrow heel. It's more almost like a rounded

749
00:41:33.639 --> 00:41:34.760
<v Speaker 2>V shaped heel.

750
00:41:35.039 --> 00:41:41.360
<v Speaker 1>So so, right, so you were you one thing I

751
00:41:41.400 --> 00:41:42.920
<v Speaker 1>wanted to touch on to it and I and I'm

752
00:41:42.960 --> 00:41:44.639
<v Speaker 1>glad that you brought this up kind of when you

753
00:41:44.679 --> 00:41:48.400
<v Speaker 1>were talking. When people come up to and they say, Daniel,

754
00:41:48.440 --> 00:41:50.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, I wanted to do what you do. I

755
00:41:50.880 --> 00:41:52.960
<v Speaker 1>want to I want I want to jump into this

756
00:41:53.039 --> 00:41:55.280
<v Speaker 1>thing with you, or you know, I want to jump

757
00:41:55.320 --> 00:41:57.400
<v Speaker 1>into this thing like you do. The one thing that

758
00:41:57.440 --> 00:41:59.760
<v Speaker 1>I said that that or you said that I liked.

759
00:42:00.079 --> 00:42:03.079
<v Speaker 1>It's kind of like research the area. And I don't

760
00:42:03.119 --> 00:42:07.719
<v Speaker 1>think a lot of people really understand researching the area.

761
00:42:07.760 --> 00:42:10.559
<v Speaker 1>I don't think a lot of people said, take Bigfoot

762
00:42:10.559 --> 00:42:12.679
<v Speaker 1>out of the equation for right now, take big Foo

763
00:42:12.719 --> 00:42:14.920
<v Speaker 1>out of the equation. Get you a couple of books,

764
00:42:15.559 --> 00:42:17.280
<v Speaker 1>go out and see what you can see in the

765
00:42:17.360 --> 00:42:19.480
<v Speaker 1>area that you know, if you re if you live

766
00:42:19.519 --> 00:42:21.480
<v Speaker 1>in you know, say you live in Ohio and you're

767
00:42:21.519 --> 00:42:25.719
<v Speaker 1>trying to, you know, research you know somewhere in California,

768
00:42:26.119 --> 00:42:28.920
<v Speaker 1>you're you're gonna be at a loss because you need

769
00:42:29.000 --> 00:42:31.920
<v Speaker 1>to be close to the area. I think personally that

770
00:42:32.000 --> 00:42:34.400
<v Speaker 1>you're going to be researching. I don't think it helps

771
00:42:34.440 --> 00:42:36.800
<v Speaker 1>if you're you know, if you're six seven states away,

772
00:42:37.480 --> 00:42:38.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, because you need to be able to go.

773
00:42:39.039 --> 00:42:43.280
<v Speaker 1>In my personal opinion, dealing with certain things that that

774
00:42:43.320 --> 00:42:45.480
<v Speaker 1>I've been into, you have to have a place you

775
00:42:45.519 --> 00:42:49.880
<v Speaker 1>can go in summer, spring, winter, and full You've got

776
00:42:49.920 --> 00:42:53.000
<v Speaker 1>to be at the at these places during the season

777
00:42:53.079 --> 00:42:55.800
<v Speaker 1>changes because not everything is the same, not.

778
00:42:55.760 --> 00:43:00.960
<v Speaker 2>Everything absolutely, yeah, I mean that's what I tell people,

779
00:43:01.800 --> 00:43:04.559
<v Speaker 2>Like for years in Virginia for a day, I'll use

780
00:43:04.639 --> 00:43:06.599
<v Speaker 2>Virginia to this where I spent a lot of deep

781
00:43:06.679 --> 00:43:11.400
<v Speaker 2>research and exploring. You go into certain areas. I have

782
00:43:11.559 --> 00:43:14.840
<v Speaker 2>my area, my research area. It's a very large area. However,

783
00:43:14.920 --> 00:43:16.840
<v Speaker 2>it's broken up into what I call the zones. You

784
00:43:16.920 --> 00:43:19.920
<v Speaker 2>got Ecrozone one, ec rozone two, blah blah blah, and

785
00:43:20.760 --> 00:43:23.440
<v Speaker 2>certain areas. I got everything mapped out on a geographical map.

786
00:43:24.119 --> 00:43:26.639
<v Speaker 2>It's very important to stay in certain areas and focus

787
00:43:26.679 --> 00:43:30.159
<v Speaker 2>and revisit these areas for a number of reasons. Really,

788
00:43:30.199 --> 00:43:32.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean, like I said, known to terrain, you know,

789
00:43:33.000 --> 00:43:35.840
<v Speaker 2>you want to know potential dangers and hazards, you know,

790
00:43:36.320 --> 00:43:38.159
<v Speaker 2>and then you got the wildlife you want to know

791
00:43:38.199 --> 00:43:41.480
<v Speaker 2>what wildlife are passing through and working these areas. You know,

792
00:43:43.519 --> 00:43:45.679
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people don't believe, like we got mountain lions,

793
00:43:45.840 --> 00:43:49.280
<v Speaker 2>you know, I have seen their tracks and although I

794
00:43:49.320 --> 00:43:52.280
<v Speaker 2>have got the capture one on my cameras out there,

795
00:43:52.320 --> 00:43:55.800
<v Speaker 2>but eventually I believe it's it's a matter of time.

796
00:43:55.920 --> 00:43:59.480
<v Speaker 2>But you know, just like big matter of time. I mean,

797
00:43:59.519 --> 00:44:02.199
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people excuses why Bigfoot hasn't been captured

798
00:44:02.199 --> 00:44:08.239
<v Speaker 2>on game cameras. Perhaps he has. Some people are keeping

799
00:44:08.280 --> 00:44:10.840
<v Speaker 2>it to themselves, you know, or honestly see the fake

800
00:44:10.880 --> 00:44:15.719
<v Speaker 2>ones on social media, which there's a lot of them,

801
00:44:16.039 --> 00:44:19.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, and then you got people taking pictures of whatever.

802
00:44:19.440 --> 00:44:24.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm kind of getting off course there, but no, uh yeah,

803
00:44:24.559 --> 00:44:28.119
<v Speaker 2>but yeah, it's very important to get familiar with the

804
00:44:28.199 --> 00:44:31.000
<v Speaker 2>area you plan on working. And I have a hat

805
00:44:31.079 --> 00:44:33.760
<v Speaker 2>of yeah, I'll work a certain aread and I'll venture

806
00:44:33.800 --> 00:44:36.920
<v Speaker 2>off off the out of the area because but it's

807
00:44:37.000 --> 00:44:40.159
<v Speaker 2>important to visit the area every so often, likes a

808
00:44:40.239 --> 00:44:42.719
<v Speaker 2>year after year or through various times throughout the year,

809
00:44:43.119 --> 00:44:46.199
<v Speaker 2>because you're gonna see a different a different appearance of

810
00:44:46.199 --> 00:44:49.079
<v Speaker 2>that area, you know, like the change the weather, the

811
00:44:49.800 --> 00:44:52.960
<v Speaker 2>belief letter, the fall you know, the time letter and

812
00:44:53.280 --> 00:44:55.800
<v Speaker 2>a lot of that plays a key role in your

813
00:44:55.840 --> 00:45:00.719
<v Speaker 2>area being active versus non active, you know. Yeah, and

814
00:45:00.760 --> 00:45:03.320
<v Speaker 2>when the leaf litters are down and everything, Yeah, usually

815
00:45:03.360 --> 00:45:06.760
<v Speaker 2>around the lake fall when you've got hunting season comes

816
00:45:06.760 --> 00:45:09.000
<v Speaker 2>in there. Yeah, the deer gonna keep roaming around, but

817
00:45:09.039 --> 00:45:11.480
<v Speaker 2>your loose species are going to be a little further away,

818
00:45:11.639 --> 00:45:15.559
<v Speaker 2>you know, right. And then not to mention cold weather,

819
00:45:16.239 --> 00:45:19.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, if there's a shelter or a location for them,

820
00:45:19.519 --> 00:45:22.199
<v Speaker 2>they're going to be staying put, you know. Yeah, I

821
00:45:22.199 --> 00:45:24.880
<v Speaker 2>believe bigfoot rooms around during the winter. I mean, like

822
00:45:24.960 --> 00:45:27.800
<v Speaker 2>every other species, they got to eat. You know, a

823
00:45:27.880 --> 00:45:30.559
<v Speaker 2>lot of people think bears hibernate all the time. That

824
00:45:30.639 --> 00:45:33.400
<v Speaker 2>ain't okay, especially here on the East Coast. They will

825
00:45:33.440 --> 00:45:35.920
<v Speaker 2>be out and about moving around. They eat all the time,

826
00:45:36.159 --> 00:45:39.199
<v Speaker 2>you know. Yeah, they might slow down a little bit

827
00:45:39.199 --> 00:45:42.360
<v Speaker 2>if the tempters are cold enough, you know. But my

828
00:45:42.480 --> 00:45:47.320
<v Speaker 2>observations with bears and hibernation, I see bear evidence all

829
00:45:47.440 --> 00:45:50.719
<v Speaker 2>year long, you know, even through the winners. So people

830
00:45:50.719 --> 00:45:53.480
<v Speaker 2>got to keep that in mind. Not all bears hibernate,

831
00:45:53.639 --> 00:45:58.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, So I guess that also varies and depends

832
00:45:58.960 --> 00:46:03.039
<v Speaker 2>on various individual species of them. But you know, in

833
00:46:03.440 --> 00:46:07.519
<v Speaker 2>different locations. But yeah, there's a lot of little basic

834
00:46:07.559 --> 00:46:09.760
<v Speaker 2>factors that people need to keep in mind. You know.

835
00:46:09.800 --> 00:46:13.199
<v Speaker 2>It's simple knowledge things that they need to be aware of.

836
00:46:13.320 --> 00:46:16.920
<v Speaker 2>But the biggest thing is getting familiar with the layout

837
00:46:16.920 --> 00:46:20.800
<v Speaker 2>of the land and the wildlife itself. It's good to

838
00:46:20.880 --> 00:46:24.719
<v Speaker 2>know the possible the ecology because a lot of your

839
00:46:24.719 --> 00:46:29.039
<v Speaker 2>different various species of wildlife, they depend on the plant

840
00:46:29.039 --> 00:46:32.280
<v Speaker 2>life and the vegetation and and the other wildlife that

841
00:46:32.360 --> 00:46:34.559
<v Speaker 2>work these areas because you get your predators that work

842
00:46:34.599 --> 00:46:37.760
<v Speaker 2>on the prey, you know, and and the prey that

843
00:46:38.320 --> 00:46:40.199
<v Speaker 2>if the food source is there for the prey, most

844
00:46:40.239 --> 00:46:42.159
<v Speaker 2>likely your predators is gonna be hunting that area too.

845
00:46:42.639 --> 00:46:44.800
<v Speaker 2>So these are areas you need to really pay attention

846
00:46:44.880 --> 00:46:49.199
<v Speaker 2>to water sources. Those are important to know too. If

847
00:46:49.199 --> 00:46:52.719
<v Speaker 2>you've got water sources in the area, just think about it.

848
00:46:52.760 --> 00:46:55.280
<v Speaker 2>Your pray is going to be there, the predators will

849
00:46:55.280 --> 00:46:59.519
<v Speaker 2>be there, you know. So it's all basic knowledge and understanding. Really,

850
00:47:00.760 --> 00:47:02.320
<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of things you just got to keep

851
00:47:02.320 --> 00:47:04.760
<v Speaker 2>in mind. Yep.

852
00:47:05.760 --> 00:47:07.920
<v Speaker 1>And I think that's important. I think I think the

853
00:47:08.000 --> 00:47:11.199
<v Speaker 1>number one thing that that this basically set out in

854
00:47:11.239 --> 00:47:17.000
<v Speaker 1>this conversation about bigfoot research doesn't really involve bigfoot and

855
00:47:17.159 --> 00:47:20.320
<v Speaker 1>more involves the the layout of the land. It revert

856
00:47:20.679 --> 00:47:25.159
<v Speaker 1>involves around the wildlife in the area. And that's I

857
00:47:25.159 --> 00:47:27.039
<v Speaker 1>think that right there, those two things right there, I

858
00:47:27.039 --> 00:47:30.159
<v Speaker 1>think are amazing. And then you had the bigfoot aspect

859
00:47:30.199 --> 00:47:33.239
<v Speaker 1>into it, and that makes it better. But those first two,

860
00:47:33.920 --> 00:47:36.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, it makes you knowledgeable. So when you you

861
00:47:36.320 --> 00:47:38.960
<v Speaker 1>might go into a place and once you understand how

862
00:47:39.159 --> 00:47:43.119
<v Speaker 1>how a forest works, once you understand the the way

863
00:47:43.159 --> 00:47:47.320
<v Speaker 1>you went about researching and getting the information for this stuff,

864
00:47:47.599 --> 00:47:50.199
<v Speaker 1>it makes it easier for the next location you plan

865
00:47:50.320 --> 00:47:53.800
<v Speaker 1>to research. And I think I think that that opens

866
00:47:53.840 --> 00:47:55.440
<v Speaker 1>a lot of doors. I think that opens a lot

867
00:47:55.440 --> 00:47:59.480
<v Speaker 1>of things because now you get a couple of friends

868
00:47:59.519 --> 00:48:01.559
<v Speaker 1>and you guys set out. You know, I'm not I'm

869
00:48:01.559 --> 00:48:04.400
<v Speaker 1>not one to go out unless it's a place that's

870
00:48:04.480 --> 00:48:07.000
<v Speaker 1>local to me and it's not as as wide, it's

871
00:48:07.000 --> 00:48:10.639
<v Speaker 1>not as big. The acreages and is large. I'll go

872
00:48:10.719 --> 00:48:14.480
<v Speaker 1>by myself. But there's very few places bigger than that

873
00:48:14.480 --> 00:48:18.360
<v Speaker 1>that I'll go by myself. Right, It's not about being

874
00:48:18.440 --> 00:48:21.559
<v Speaker 1>scared or being afraid. It's about, you know, I want

875
00:48:21.880 --> 00:48:24.119
<v Speaker 1>I like to have other people around me, so that

876
00:48:24.199 --> 00:48:27.360
<v Speaker 1>if something goes down, you know it's it's better to

877
00:48:27.679 --> 00:48:30.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, it evens out the odds. You know it's

878
00:48:30.519 --> 00:48:36.440
<v Speaker 1>likely something's gonna gonna try to do something right. Safety

879
00:48:36.559 --> 00:48:39.360
<v Speaker 1>and numbers, No, I agree, especially when you're out in

880
00:48:39.360 --> 00:48:41.079
<v Speaker 1>the woods espec. You know, if something happens to you

881
00:48:41.079 --> 00:48:43.800
<v Speaker 1>to say, something just happens, it's not anything, not an

882
00:48:43.800 --> 00:48:46.159
<v Speaker 1>animal attack, or you don't run into big Foot but

883
00:48:46.199 --> 00:48:50.360
<v Speaker 1>you fall and break your leg. What you know, people

884
00:48:50.400 --> 00:48:52.199
<v Speaker 1>can't hear you if you're out there. And and some

885
00:48:52.320 --> 00:48:55.360
<v Speaker 1>of these wooded areas they're not just a couple of

886
00:48:55.440 --> 00:49:00.079
<v Speaker 1>miles long, you know, they're very much larger than that.

887
00:49:00.320 --> 00:49:03.119
<v Speaker 1>You know, you got the apple Lachians, the apple Lachians

888
00:49:03.159 --> 00:49:07.719
<v Speaker 1>alone or multiple states, the Alleganians, you know, all of

889
00:49:07.760 --> 00:49:10.480
<v Speaker 1>these places. So I recommend that people, if you're gonna

890
00:49:10.480 --> 00:49:14.679
<v Speaker 1>go out investigating, always take a buddy. And you probably

891
00:49:14.679 --> 00:49:16.639
<v Speaker 1>do the same obviously in a couple of year videos

892
00:49:16.679 --> 00:49:19.920
<v Speaker 1>where you do the same. And I want to put

893
00:49:20.840 --> 00:49:24.199
<v Speaker 1>u a special point on the video. It was a

894
00:49:24.280 --> 00:49:26.519
<v Speaker 1>real you had about you find it, you find a den,

895
00:49:27.239 --> 00:49:30.679
<v Speaker 1>You find a den in Pennsylvania, And I was like,

896
00:49:30.760 --> 00:49:34.320
<v Speaker 1>that's fascinating because you know, obviously you'd say, well, bigfoot

897
00:49:34.320 --> 00:49:37.159
<v Speaker 1>to use this, but your wildlife is gonna use that,

898
00:49:37.199 --> 00:49:40.480
<v Speaker 1>your bears, your mountain lions, anything that's coming through there

899
00:49:40.760 --> 00:49:44.920
<v Speaker 1>on a bad night in the middle of winter, you know,

900
00:49:45.079 --> 00:49:47.800
<v Speaker 1>when it's when there's lightning and thunder and rain. Animalst

901
00:49:47.840 --> 00:49:50.159
<v Speaker 1>don't like that kind of stuff, you know. I have

902
00:49:50.239 --> 00:49:51.920
<v Speaker 1>pets here and they hate when it. When it starts

903
00:49:51.960 --> 00:49:54.360
<v Speaker 1>lightning out, it's bad, they'll hide, they don't, they don't

904
00:49:54.440 --> 00:49:57.199
<v Speaker 1>much care for it, you know. So that gives the

905
00:49:57.639 --> 00:50:00.239
<v Speaker 1>wildlife a place and it's dry, you know, the not

906
00:50:00.280 --> 00:50:03.400
<v Speaker 1>getting wet. So I just I thought that was a

907
00:50:03.400 --> 00:50:06.960
<v Speaker 1>really interesting part that you put into your video, that

908
00:50:06.960 --> 00:50:09.360
<v Speaker 1>that the den so to speak. I thought that was

909
00:50:09.400 --> 00:50:12.440
<v Speaker 1>really interesting. And that's what I appreciate about your videos

910
00:50:12.519 --> 00:50:15.159
<v Speaker 1>because you're at these locations. Yeah, I might not see,

911
00:50:15.480 --> 00:50:18.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, a a very blurred out picture of what

912
00:50:19.000 --> 00:50:21.920
<v Speaker 1>could be a bigfoot, but on closer inspection, it's just

913
00:50:21.920 --> 00:50:24.519
<v Speaker 1>a tree branch. Because I saw that you had done

914
00:50:24.519 --> 00:50:25.440
<v Speaker 1>something similar to that.

915
00:50:26.119 --> 00:50:26.599
<v Speaker 2>What I do.

916
00:50:27.239 --> 00:50:29.679
<v Speaker 1>What I do really enjoy, though, is I enjoy the

917
00:50:29.679 --> 00:50:31.920
<v Speaker 1>fact that you're out in the woods, that you're out there,

918
00:50:32.119 --> 00:50:35.039
<v Speaker 1>and I respect people that actually will go that extra mile,

919
00:50:35.599 --> 00:50:39.159
<v Speaker 1>not just do armchair bigfoot research where they're watching you know,

920
00:50:39.719 --> 00:50:44.880
<v Speaker 1>finding Bigfoot and you know, eating eating whatever and listening

921
00:50:45.079 --> 00:50:47.559
<v Speaker 1>and or watching that Sunny Vader guys videos. You know,

922
00:50:47.599 --> 00:50:50.559
<v Speaker 1>they're actually out there. You know, they're out there in

923
00:50:50.599 --> 00:50:52.719
<v Speaker 1>the field. They're oi there, Like, Okay, I don't think

924
00:50:52.760 --> 00:50:54.360
<v Speaker 1>this is a big foot. I think this is probably

925
00:50:54.400 --> 00:50:56.320
<v Speaker 1>just a bear that has come through, you know, given

926
00:50:56.360 --> 00:50:59.639
<v Speaker 1>the history of things, and you know, given what this

927
00:50:59.840 --> 00:51:02.519
<v Speaker 1>is and what that is. And another thing I think

928
00:51:02.559 --> 00:51:05.159
<v Speaker 1>you brought up too that I enjoyed was the fact

929
00:51:05.199 --> 00:51:08.480
<v Speaker 1>that you said, Okay, now, once these occurrences start happening,

930
00:51:09.440 --> 00:51:13.119
<v Speaker 1>I can hypothesize that it is this, but I still

931
00:51:13.159 --> 00:51:18.000
<v Speaker 1>don't have verifiable proof right that it is that. And

932
00:51:18.039 --> 00:51:20.519
<v Speaker 1>so I respect it because a lot of people they'll

933
00:51:20.559 --> 00:51:23.199
<v Speaker 1>hear a tree knock six or seven times, you know,

934
00:51:23.320 --> 00:51:26.800
<v Speaker 1>automatically it's a big foot, right, you know, I don't.

935
00:51:27.679 --> 00:51:31.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, For example, you mentioned tree knocks. Now I've heard

936
00:51:31.880 --> 00:51:34.159
<v Speaker 2>wood on wood banging and knocks out in the woods.

937
00:51:34.199 --> 00:51:36.760
<v Speaker 2>But then again, I've heard things during the hunting season

938
00:51:36.840 --> 00:51:39.679
<v Speaker 2>like I'm listening to the woodpeckers up on a big

939
00:51:39.760 --> 00:51:43.159
<v Speaker 2>dead hollow trees above me and everyone that you know,

940
00:51:44.239 --> 00:51:46.679
<v Speaker 2>most of us are familiar with the most common sounds.

941
00:51:46.679 --> 00:51:49.599
<v Speaker 2>When a woodpecker is pecking on a tree, they sound

942
00:51:49.639 --> 00:51:52.639
<v Speaker 2>like caps. Well that not's not always case. Some of

943
00:51:52.719 --> 00:51:56.840
<v Speaker 2>them sound like wood on wood knocks, you know, so

944
00:51:57.840 --> 00:52:00.199
<v Speaker 2>you know people, I mean, I've heerd people saying, yeah,

945
00:52:00.599 --> 00:52:02.119
<v Speaker 2>I was walking down a trail and I heard a

946
00:52:02.199 --> 00:52:05.239
<v Speaker 2>tap tap over here, a tap tap over here. And

947
00:52:05.360 --> 00:52:08.039
<v Speaker 2>the way they're describing it, they're thinking they got bigfoot

948
00:52:08.239 --> 00:52:12.400
<v Speaker 2>parallel on them. You know what I'm thinking, Wow, you

949
00:52:12.480 --> 00:52:13.800
<v Speaker 2>got woodpeckers around here.

950
00:52:14.119 --> 00:52:16.599
<v Speaker 1>You know, you have some birds, you got some birds

951
00:52:16.639 --> 00:52:18.000
<v Speaker 1>going up and down them trees.

952
00:52:18.480 --> 00:52:21.519
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, woodpeckers can be very deceiving on their you know,

953
00:52:21.559 --> 00:52:24.719
<v Speaker 2>like I said, it's not just a simple tap tap tap.

954
00:52:25.079 --> 00:52:26.960
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes they're you know, sometimes we hear them like a drill,

955
00:52:27.679 --> 00:52:30.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, or in some cases, like I said, they

956
00:52:30.440 --> 00:52:33.119
<v Speaker 2>sound like a wood on wood knock, like someone's taking

957
00:52:33.679 --> 00:52:36.960
<v Speaker 2>like uh like not you know, a heavy baseball like

958
00:52:37.000 --> 00:52:40.000
<v Speaker 2>a bat. Just tap it on a tree and you

959
00:52:40.039 --> 00:52:43.679
<v Speaker 2>get that knock sound. Some woodpeckers, depending on the type

960
00:52:43.719 --> 00:52:46.920
<v Speaker 2>of tree, the age of the tree, and you know

961
00:52:47.119 --> 00:52:49.880
<v Speaker 2>it does it'll produce a basic knock like in Virginia,

962
00:52:50.039 --> 00:52:53.360
<v Speaker 2>we have what you call and I've seen some of them.

963
00:52:53.400 --> 00:52:56.239
<v Speaker 2>Up here in Pennsylvania you have what they call bullpines.

964
00:52:56.360 --> 00:52:59.000
<v Speaker 2>They're usually a thick, heavy bark, big ground tree and

965
00:52:59.039 --> 00:53:01.000
<v Speaker 2>I love doing my tree on them because they gave

966
00:53:01.039 --> 00:53:04.920
<v Speaker 2>off a good basic knock, you know. But so yeah,

967
00:53:05.400 --> 00:53:07.199
<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of things that people need to take

968
00:53:07.239 --> 00:53:11.320
<v Speaker 2>in consideration. Almo, you're hearing nighttime. I believe it could

969
00:53:11.320 --> 00:53:14.000
<v Speaker 2>be a different situation that you know. Yes, I've heard

970
00:53:14.039 --> 00:53:17.760
<v Speaker 2>tree knock responses. I've forgotten treeknock responses in the middle

971
00:53:17.800 --> 00:53:20.559
<v Speaker 2>of the daytime from my tree knocks. Now, was there

972
00:53:20.639 --> 00:53:22.920
<v Speaker 2>other people out there playing games with me? I don't know,

973
00:53:23.199 --> 00:53:26.519
<v Speaker 2>but I got responses that, you know, So I can't say, Okay,

974
00:53:26.519 --> 00:53:31.360
<v Speaker 2>that was a big foot you know, I've had, you know,

975
00:53:31.920 --> 00:53:35.239
<v Speaker 2>like one of the locations me and Julie went to

976
00:53:35.320 --> 00:53:39.599
<v Speaker 2>visit and investigate for the very first time. How was

977
00:53:39.679 --> 00:53:42.400
<v Speaker 2>God expecting nothing there? Because there was never no reports there.

978
00:53:42.719 --> 00:53:46.639
<v Speaker 2>There was never any sightings in that location that were documented. Well,

979
00:53:46.760 --> 00:53:48.679
<v Speaker 2>the first night we were there, after we got dark,

980
00:53:48.719 --> 00:53:52.679
<v Speaker 2>it was dead quiet. It was kind of I don't

981
00:53:52.679 --> 00:53:55.559
<v Speaker 2>want to say boring, but you know, I decided to

982
00:53:55.559 --> 00:53:57.760
<v Speaker 2>give off a couple of whoops, you know, just for

983
00:53:57.840 --> 00:54:01.360
<v Speaker 2>the heck of it. And right after, right after doing that,

984
00:54:01.800 --> 00:54:04.199
<v Speaker 2>just inside the tree line, straight out in front of me,

985
00:54:04.360 --> 00:54:08.400
<v Speaker 2>was a knock. Right after that knock, straight out from

986
00:54:08.440 --> 00:54:10.440
<v Speaker 2>from where Julie was sitting out in front of her

987
00:54:10.679 --> 00:54:15.000
<v Speaker 2>was another knock. So I question that. Okay, I mean,

988
00:54:15.039 --> 00:54:19.559
<v Speaker 2>it got me excited because okay, this is nighttime and okay,

989
00:54:19.599 --> 00:54:21.599
<v Speaker 2>what's in here? You know what's out there? You know

990
00:54:21.679 --> 00:54:25.079
<v Speaker 2>something's there doing that. So I mean, yes, I would

991
00:54:25.119 --> 00:54:28.159
<v Speaker 2>like to believe and contribute that to a bigfoot, but

992
00:54:28.960 --> 00:54:31.719
<v Speaker 2>you know, and I mean I would be completely wrong

993
00:54:31.840 --> 00:54:33.559
<v Speaker 2>to say, yes, that was a big foot and I

994
00:54:33.599 --> 00:54:37.360
<v Speaker 2>didn't witness what made that knock, you know, But so yeah,

995
00:54:37.719 --> 00:54:39.719
<v Speaker 2>it's easier to believe it was a big foot than

996
00:54:39.719 --> 00:54:43.039
<v Speaker 2>to say it actually was a big pot so right,

997
00:54:43.360 --> 00:54:47.519
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, so yeah, it's just you know, I mean,

998
00:54:47.679 --> 00:54:49.960
<v Speaker 2>the whole thing was a bigfoot thing too. Like I said,

999
00:54:50.599 --> 00:54:52.840
<v Speaker 2>you know a lot of us and you know, I

1000
00:54:52.840 --> 00:54:55.079
<v Speaker 2>could speak for myself on this, but I know for

1001
00:54:55.159 --> 00:54:57.280
<v Speaker 2>a fact, everybody out there, when you're all there bigfooting,

1002
00:54:57.599 --> 00:55:00.360
<v Speaker 2>it's exciting, it's fun, and Bigfoot's gonn to be on

1003
00:55:00.400 --> 00:55:03.920
<v Speaker 2>your brain regardless of what you experienced. But then and

1004
00:55:05.119 --> 00:55:08.800
<v Speaker 2>we tend to drain out all the logical side of things.

1005
00:55:09.679 --> 00:55:14.079
<v Speaker 2>It drains out the critical thinking, you know. And yeah,

1006
00:55:14.119 --> 00:55:16.239
<v Speaker 2>maybe at first I'll get excited and think of this

1007
00:55:16.280 --> 00:55:18.079
<v Speaker 2>and that, and then after I get to think about it,

1008
00:55:18.119 --> 00:55:20.199
<v Speaker 2>you know, Okay, okay, I have to consider this. You know,

1009
00:55:20.239 --> 00:55:24.480
<v Speaker 2>these other possibilities, you know, like a lot of the

1010
00:55:24.519 --> 00:55:27.760
<v Speaker 2>odd stuff we find or anything odd that we experience

1011
00:55:27.840 --> 00:55:32.199
<v Speaker 2>that we cannot explain. I always tell people there's always

1012
00:55:32.199 --> 00:55:35.360
<v Speaker 2>that possibility. You cannot rule out the possibilities, but you

1013
00:55:35.400 --> 00:55:37.960
<v Speaker 2>can't make a fact unless you witness what performed it,

1014
00:55:38.039 --> 00:55:40.880
<v Speaker 2>what created it, or what vocalized it, you know, all

1015
00:55:40.960 --> 00:55:41.400
<v Speaker 2>the above.

1016
00:55:41.840 --> 00:55:46.639
<v Speaker 1>So oh yeah, yeah, well, Daniel, it's about that time.

1017
00:55:46.760 --> 00:55:48.880
<v Speaker 1>I want to thank you for coming on the show.

1018
00:55:49.119 --> 00:55:54.119
<v Speaker 1>I apologize for all the audio visual hiccups. Definitely that

1019
00:55:54.239 --> 00:55:55.960
<v Speaker 1>was on my end. I apologized, so I thought it

1020
00:55:56.039 --> 00:55:59.079
<v Speaker 1>was on yours. But I'm here in the comments everybody's like, yeah,

1021
00:55:59.119 --> 00:56:01.480
<v Speaker 1>we can hear them just fine. So it's something in

1022
00:56:01.760 --> 00:56:04.119
<v Speaker 1>audio that'll be worked out for the next show, you guys,

1023
00:56:04.119 --> 00:56:07.360
<v Speaker 1>So don't think I'm going anywhere because I'm not, but

1024
00:56:07.400 --> 00:56:09.039
<v Speaker 1>I'm want to give a big special thank you to

1025
00:56:09.719 --> 00:56:13.159
<v Speaker 1>Daniel Benwa Daniel, where can people find you and what

1026
00:56:13.400 --> 00:56:15.559
<v Speaker 1>event is coming up that they can come and see

1027
00:56:15.599 --> 00:56:16.199
<v Speaker 1>you at?

1028
00:56:16.920 --> 00:56:19.440
<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm not as as elusive as big for I'm

1029
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<v Speaker 2>pretty easy to find. I'm praisically. I'm basically all over

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<v Speaker 2>social media. Facebook's the main primary source, So you can

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<v Speaker 2>find me at under Daniel Binoa at ecb ro O

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<v Speaker 2>ninety eight. I have my main profile, which you'll know

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<v Speaker 2>it's me because I have the blue verified check mark

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<v Speaker 2>next to my name. Then I have my main ecb

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<v Speaker 2>ro East Coast Bigfoot Researchers Organization Facebook group. You can

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<v Speaker 2>feel free to check that out. We welcome everybody. Then

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<v Speaker 2>I have my ecbureau fan page and whatnot. There is

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<v Speaker 2>a public figure page, but I have more follows on

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<v Speaker 2>my main pager than that one. But yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>my event, My next coming event I'm going to promote

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<v Speaker 2>coming up right now is the May twenty fifth Pennsylvania

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<v Speaker 2>Myths and Legends Festival and that's happening at the Bakersville

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<v Speaker 2>Community Grove in Somerset, Pennsylvania. So want more information on that,

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<v Speaker 2>go visit the Facebook event page and yeah, and I

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<v Speaker 2>mean I post my field videos and everything on my

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<v Speaker 2>YouTube channel. Roberts has that scroll across the bottom. Feel

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<v Speaker 2>free to check that out and if you have any questions,

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<v Speaker 2>shoot me a message, send me an email u CBR

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<v Speaker 2>ninety eight at gmail dot com. And that's pretty much

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<v Speaker 2>about it. And thank you for having me on here, Robert.

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<v Speaker 2>This has been a pleasure. I really enjoyed this awesome awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you're definitely welcome to come back. We definitely will

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<v Speaker 1>probably have you back on again. I definitely want to

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<v Speaker 1>go out and into the Word with you at some

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<v Speaker 1>point and check, oh, yes, see what's going down, and

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<v Speaker 1>you guys will be able to hear it from me too.

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<v Speaker 1>So I appreciate my community. I appreciate it annual and

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<v Speaker 1>as always, why be boring when you can be uncanny.

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<v Speaker 1>We will see you with my co host next week.

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<v Speaker 1>Take care of folks, peace, wo