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Speaker 2: I am doing well. How are you doing, sir?

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Speaker 1: Are you a golf I just made that up. I

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don't even know if you like golf or watch the Masters?

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I don't are you watching? All right? Well, that's a

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pretty good thing that we have a gazillion other topics,

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because like some of your politicians think they don't even

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have to wear pants down there, and idiots are riding

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horses around uptown.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, where do I don't know? I yeah, I don't

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even know what is going on here.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure, all right, so so help me out here.

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The the urban cowboy horse thing. I see this like

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all over now, like this is a it's actually a

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probmin Atlanta. Apparently I did not realize it had come

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to the Queen City there. You saw the video. It's

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the worst place. It's the worst place to ride a

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horse horse with. There's too much stimul stimuli. Horses don't

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do well usually, and especially when you try to stand

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up on the saddle like you're a trick you know,

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a trick rider from back in the Antioply days, and

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then you get dumped and then the horse runs through

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an intersection gets smoked by a car. Is there not

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laws against this in Charlotte? Or is this some of

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you guys are discussing? Because it makes me angry as

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somebody grew up with horses, even to see people running

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shod horses on pavement because they have no traction.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought it was very big, Like where are

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all of the people that you know, protest the carriages,

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the horse drawn carriages through uptown? Right, you know, like

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where are all those people there are? Now there are

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actually laws on the books apparently, which I was not

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up to speed on until this incident occurred. And the

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reason why everybody became aware of it was because, of course,

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there was a video that was shot by what seems

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to be you know, somebody who was who maybe you know,

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part of the group or whatever. I'm not sure, but yeah,

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like the it's like the guys riding motor cycles in

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you know, the center city license. Yeah, and we've had

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problems like this for years and years ever since you know,

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Uptown became revitalized twenty years ago. You know, it became

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this cruising zone and people you know, driving their cars

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or their bicycles or their motorcycles through uptown with music

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blaring and you know, just making fools of themselves and

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annoying everybody and jamming up traffic and all of this.

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people take horses into the city and uh, you know,

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stand up on them or whatever. But there are apparently

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laws against certain types of horse riding activities. If you

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don't yeah, if you yeah, apparently if you don't have

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uh an, if you have an unhaltered horse, then then

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it is illegal for that horse to be on the streets.

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this center city, right, But these horses did have halters,

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they had the saddles and all that, so they do

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not appear, so to speak, Yeah, so they don't appear

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to be in violation of that. But there is a

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code that makes it illegal to recklessly or carelessly ride

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or drive an animal through any street, alley or highway.

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what what the penalty is for that. But I think

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the real problem is that when the cops showed up.

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started screaming and cussing in the street, and then they

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both resisted arrest. So I think that might be that got.

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Speaker 1: Them and Trump in Atlanta. In Atlanta, there was an

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incident and they were screaming racism because all the people

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on the horses were black. And of course since the

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polea showed up, uh, and they showed up for a fistfight,

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they didn't even show up for the horse thing. And

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then the horse thing became a thing, and then it

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turned into you all being racist. There's a video. People

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want to find it. But I'm just like, what what

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are we doing here? But you give me a brilliant idea, Pete,

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because I know how to drive cattle. Yeah, it's a

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skill set that I have just from you know. I

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we should we should drive cattle through uptown.

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Speaker 2: We're going to have to put saddles on them so

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we're not in violation of the ordinance.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'll let you try to alter cattle.

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Speaker 2: You're the expert here, man.

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Speaker 1: I'm just going to be under saying I know how

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to do it. Yeah, you need about eight guys, but

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we can make this happen.

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Speaker 2: I've never I've never done that, so I'll volunteer to

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there's a lot going on. I think Ross and Form

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you we're not here next week, which is great news

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for you because there is a there is an urban

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legend that every time we take time off, the world explodes,

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and I'm like, really, the only way it could get

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worse would be what end of days? I don't know,

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diden week for you. But the.

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Speaker 2: Do you want to talk about the pants list matter?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's right. I'm sorry I got distracted because

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there's something else to try to think of, all right,

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So explain this to me. So this is what the

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mayor of Mooresville, Right, he was running around in the

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in the city hall at night with a with a

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lady friend and he didn't have pants on. But it's

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all a misunderstanding because he got stick on his pants

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and they went there and blah blah blah, what is

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going on with that?

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Speaker 2: So apparently his story is that he and a bunch

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of other like city officials and you know local, I

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don't know, elites or whatever. There was a party of

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some kind. They were out at a restaurant or a

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bar or something, and he had had some drinks, he

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had some wine, and then he realized on his way home,

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work phone. He had left his work phone at the

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office at city hall, so he had to stop off

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and pick up the phone. And while there, the wine

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that he had ingested interacted negatively with some prescription medication

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that he was taking for something, and that made him

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feel ill. He got sick. He got it on his pants,

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so he took his pants off so he could clean them,

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and then that's why he was walking around pantsless, which

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was captured on video. Now, people who work for the

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city who saw the video then got fired. There were

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two of them, and they apparently have now filed lawsuits.

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they saw the video and this was retribution, right, So

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they were like whistleblowers.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: So the other day this week, the Moorsville Town Commission

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met and they took a vote of no confidence in

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the mayor and called for him to resign. And he

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said he will not doing that. He then also said

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that he has since gone to three weeks of rehab

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and he apparently had alcohol abuse issues. He really loved vodka,

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he said, and so but now he's feeling great and

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he's off of the booze and so that's all fine

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and good.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: So I'm not sure why that booze would not have

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interacted with his medication either, But I don't Yeah, I

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don't know. Nobody really knows at this point. Now, the

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local TV stations have sued to try to get the video,

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and that's being fought in court by the city, saying

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that it's part of an investigation and there's security details

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like if you know where the cameras are, that may

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be a security weakness that gets highlighted, and people would

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then be able to break into city Hall I guess

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and run around pantiless.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So it's not him just going hey, you want

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to go hook up in city hall? Oh? No, a

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Rube Goldberg. It's a Rube Goldberg of serious unfortunate coincidences.

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Speaker 2: Right us here, right. And And that's the thing is,

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like the story is not believable, you know it, It's

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just it does it doesn't sound believable, like it probably

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is something more than just oh I had to get

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Speaker 1: I mean, that wouldn't be the first time the Shenanigans

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in the does he does the mayor have an office

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Speaker 2: Apparently?

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Speaker 1: So yes, physically. Yeah. Yeah, Well I'm just saying he's

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probably at the first mayor to go, hey, you know what, uh,

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go hook up in my office. If in fact that's

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what happened, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it is as he said, Yeah, and there's

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been no explanation as to why she was there.

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Speaker 1: You know, well they were they were just you know,

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happened to be leaving the event together as car polling.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they were carpooling maybe.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was Green's much greener that way.

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talk since the pilot rescue or have we mm hm

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think so because that had oh no, no,

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that happened over the Easter weekend. Yes, so we haven't. Yeah, God,

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it feels like a month ago.

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Speaker 1: I know, right, I try to remember, but like it's dude,

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just watching the reaction to that. It's just a couple

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the reaction to that, the way that they're trying to

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position it as some sort of failure. I'm sorry between

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that what happened in Venezuela. What an awesome time to

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be watching what our military is capable of, right, And

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it raises the question, And I've asked every guest this

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this week, including elected officials, how the hell is a

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hotel guy and Fox News hosts able to execute the

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bad assy that we've seen if we have these technical capabilities,

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which I believe that we do, were the most powerful

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ones in the world and it preceded them. How poorly

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and inefficiently have previous leaders utilized our military since basically

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World War Two?

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Speaker 2: Like what a stark contrast, man, Yeah, And it calls

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into question, like the leadership ranks in the military for

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the last forty years that did not seem to be

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able to harness this kind of power, and the political

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leadership as well that maybe was unwilling to utilize it

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our mission is, which is lethality, right, And everybody was like, oh,

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look at this fox host. He doesn't know what he's doing.

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He's probably drunk and all of this. But what better

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person than a war fighter because that's what he was

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before people always dismissed his credentials. But I mean the

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guy served he was. I think he's also a lawyer,

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I believe, but like he has served. He knows this

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this world, and he knows what the troops can do

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because he was one of them, and it does make.

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Speaker 1: Me he was he was a trigger puller too, Yeah,

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part of it. He was just some guy in a warehouse,

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you know, office back on one of our bases.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there he was kicking doors in. He was first

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through the door, leading, leading his comrades like he like.

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you know, he would he would take point because he

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would not ask anybody to do things that he would

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not do himself. And so yeah, so when I see

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the reaction and everybody's like, you know, complaining about this thing,

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and it's like, guys, like this is a like a

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profound moment. The message we just sent that the military

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just sent to all of the adversaries like like, we

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can completely come into your country and do what we

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want to do and leave and that should give every

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adversary pause.

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Speaker 1: Or or we'll come in and steal your president from

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a base right with something called a discombobulator. And then

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now we find out we have something called a ghost murmur. Yeah, which,

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tools where they're like, oh, we can your heartbeats, a fingerprint,

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we can find you wherever you are, I'm equal parts

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like that's so cool, and also I'm like, I don't

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know Big Brothers?

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Speaker 2: So yeah, that was I was torn as well. But yeah,

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find you anywhere based on your heartbeat, so like you

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can get your phone, you can go underground and all

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this other stuff, but we will know where you are

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because of this. I don't even know it's like telemetry

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or whatever. I don't I don't even know the technology,

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but it's it's pretty amazing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And uh, and and if you think that they haven't,

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they're not sitting around over at the UN and mapping

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world leaders heart beats. I'm serious, Yeah, you would want

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to get you want to get a registry of this

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or bad guy's heart beats. I mean, think about it.

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That's the practical application of it. Again, you probably got

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a little list of all, right, here's this, this guy,

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is this terrorist heartbeat? This one, this one, and you know, ye,

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you're on notice, you're on notice. And then and then

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the story too, of the leaker. I want to run

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this by you because you and I we we host

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radio shows now and I have both served in reporter capacity,

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which is different. It is different. Commentator and reporter are different,

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or at least they're supposed to be. So when I

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hear him talking about somebody leaked information to the media,

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and then the media basically by reporting it, let Iran

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know that, in fact, no, we haven't got that guy

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yet and he's not necessarily moving in this convoy for

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a maritime EXTRATCHU, which is the story the CIA sold.

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Remember they put a bounty on this, and you had

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people that were IRGC, you had just bounty hunters. They

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were all looking for this guy. And then we had

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to set up predator drones to turn people to miss

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the guy within three kilometers. Does this violate the line

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where you think if they don't give up their sources

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there should be penalties or do you think it's still

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protected under the First Amendment.

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Speaker 2: From the leaker standpoint, No.

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Speaker 1: No, the talked about the reporter and the editor made

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the decision to run that information.

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Speaker 2: So, like me, personally, ethical standard would be, there's there's

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a guy missing on the ground, and if the military says, hey,

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do not publish this information, I do not. That's me

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because I don't want to get some American service member killed,

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you know, and that would be a huge win for

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Iran because I'm I consider myself an American first, So

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like I would not try to jeopardize that mission. So

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for me, I would not have run the run the

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story at that time. You could tell it afterwards. So

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then the question is do you give up the source? Right?

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And if you don't, then you're going to be tossed

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in jail for contempt until you do turn And that's

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that's a question every reporter has to wrestle with, Right

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do you give up the source? That's going to be

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up to that reporter. Me personally, again, I wouldn't have

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run the story, so I wouldn't be put in that

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position to have to then decide whether or not to

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stay in jail. Now, the reporter, if they stay in jail,

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that's going to be a boon to all sorts of

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aspects of their career because they will be a person

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who went to jail in order to protect a source,

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and that will probably prompt more people to give them

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leaked information.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I would horse trade with it. And you

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probably know what I'm referring to. Let me explain it.

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So I would go and I would say, hey, I

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got this thing I called a pentagon or whatever whoever

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whoever I was trying to get to confirm her to

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that right, And I called him and they'd be like, hey,

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can you not run that, because if you run that,

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you could be putting this person in danger. And I'll say, okay,

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I'll hold it. But when you capture the when you

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get this guy, I interview you first.

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Speaker 2: That would not be uncommon, right, Yeah, you try to

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leverage it for a different story, or you know, well

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give me something else you know you can, Yeah, try

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your access.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, let me talk to the guy after he's rescued,

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and there's something some along those lines. We're gonna have

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to leave it there. I wanted to play some McFadden

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Grant audio. I know you're.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he doesn't know you, bro, I know it. That's

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why I was kind of bittersweet on election night. I

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get four more years of content.

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Speaker 1: Yeah all right, well, all hell's gonna break loose next week.

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If history holds, we'll talk to you in a couple

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of weeks. Have a good one, mister Pete Allen.

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Speaker 2: If I survive, I'll see you there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah all right, well, you know fingers