Speaker 1: We got some one or something out here. I can't go,
Speaker 1: but I know I did my better. Light came on
Speaker 1: and I did that with a glent big thing running
Speaker 1: across the yard, not a good sight man or something.
Speaker 1: I look like a man. I don't know what it
Speaker 1: was across the yard.
Speaker 2: It seems to be a big foot leaning against a
Speaker 2: tree in a wooden area.
Speaker 3: I have seen plenty of people with big feet, but
Speaker 3: not bigfoot.
Speaker 1: Tree minks and rush. He sees about seven and seven
Speaker 1: and a half foot tall sass watch looking back at him,
Speaker 1: and that.
Speaker 4: Kind of looks like a wolf, but not like a
Speaker 4: neighborhood dog.
Speaker 1: Pick these stores for what they are, and hopes that
Speaker 1: maybe if it's out there, then't show me. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: says he might have caught the mythical Cuba Cabra creature
Speaker 1: terrorizing his chickens. It's like a grunt and a knock.
Speaker 1: It's like a wh I think there's kind of a
Speaker 1: cultural tendency for people to want to make Bigfoot a
Speaker 1: quote unquote monster. Welcome to e c b r O
Speaker 1: big Foot Radio. Sorry for my little crowd clip. That's
Speaker 1: a I know it's a little corny, so yeah, welcome Valerie.
Speaker 4: Is it val Valerie or it's Valerie, but I go
Speaker 4: by val.
Speaker 1: Bew Okay, I should have asked before we started, but
Speaker 1: that's my fault. So is this your first time ever
Speaker 1: being on a podcast by any chance?
Speaker 4: Yeah? It is?
Speaker 1: It is, Okay a very good. Well, we're gonna have
Speaker 1: a very fun discussion because I know I myself. I'm
Speaker 1: looking forward to hearing what you know, what you actually
Speaker 1: recently experienced, and uh, we're going to get into that
Speaker 1: very shortly. And for those who are jumping on watching
Speaker 1: right now, Uh, if you have questions from gallery, just
Speaker 1: feel free. I'll be watching the love Chat to the
Speaker 1: best of my ability and then value for the record too.
Speaker 1: When they ask questions or have something to say, a
Speaker 1: lot of times I will highlight the question where if
Speaker 1: I tap on it, it'll show up on the screen.
Speaker 1: So yeah, because I know, I don't think I have
Speaker 1: my reading glasses with me, so some of it may
Speaker 1: be small and hard to read on my end. So okay,
Speaker 1: so I'll be squinting at the screen. Yeah, I got
Speaker 1: mine too, but I think mine are probably in my
Speaker 1: lunchbox for work. I use that work sometimes. So yeah, Valerie,
Speaker 1: you are a native to the Shado Valley right here
Speaker 1: in Augustin County. Yeah, well, are you originally from the
Speaker 1: area here or.
Speaker 4: I am born and raised here in Baron Ridge.
Speaker 1: Okay, very cool, So there was I let me get
Speaker 1: my question. I had a few things. Yeah, because I
Speaker 1: usually I am very pretty I'm very good at remembering
Speaker 1: half the stuff. So so here's something I do like
Speaker 1: to ask. Uh, the whole subject of bigfoot is in general. Uh,
Speaker 1: were you a believer before all this that took place?
Speaker 1: Or Yeah?
Speaker 2: No, I absolutely believe in cryptids and bigfoot has always
Speaker 2: been something I believed in.
Speaker 4: It's just not it's just a fact.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Was there something that got you interested in the
Speaker 1: first place?
Speaker 2: Probably the the Gimlin file, the Gimlin video. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 2: when they used that on the six million Dollar Man.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: And I didn't know that that was actual foot until
Speaker 2: I was an adult, you know, seeing it walking when
Speaker 2: they show it walking, So it was it was it
Speaker 2: got me interested. You know, is there really something like
Speaker 2: this with them finding foot, feet prints, things like that.
Speaker 4: There's got to be other things out here besides us.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I tell you what. As I tell people,
Speaker 1: that's a big part of what got me involved is
Speaker 1: that footage. Yeah, I mean consider the time period, you know,
Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty seven. I mean that was usued with
Speaker 1: a sixteen millimeter camera, right, I mean I think I
Speaker 1: think that was pretty good for back then.
Speaker 2: You know, I thought so they didn't really have the
Speaker 2: technology to they could do some things to alter them,
Speaker 2: but you know, they didn't have quite the technology that
Speaker 2: they have now. So I always believed it was completely real,
Speaker 2: and now they show it's real.
Speaker 1: So right absolutely, hold on, say all right, yeah, so yeah,
Speaker 1: we got a couple of people checking in saying hello,
Speaker 1: all right, very cool. All right. Yeah, So because you know,
Speaker 1: we get into a lot of different discussions when it
Speaker 1: comes to patters the footage because you know, something like
Speaker 1: that has been I guess debated would be the right
Speaker 1: way to put that, you by so many different sources.
Speaker 1: You know. Then again, if there's so much to look
Speaker 1: for a look at back then during that time, that
Speaker 1: kind of helped support it too. It's like, I mean,
Speaker 1: what was the best technology that they had or I
Speaker 1: shouldn't say technology, but what was the most advanced kind
Speaker 1: of crossover they had back then? Well, that video footage
Speaker 1: came out in nineteen sixty seven. Right, look at the
Speaker 1: plan of the eighth came out March twenty eighth of
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty eight.
Speaker 2: Right, so yeah, yeah, it was more matted the fur
Speaker 2: it was fake and it was matted looking, so you
Speaker 2: can tell.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely absolutely So so kind of moving ahead
Speaker 1: of the Uh, you were recently down in Stuart, Virginia.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my best friend and I go down to Faerrystone
Speaker 2: Park or near the park to collect fairy stones. And
Speaker 2: so we had been down about two weeks ago, had
Speaker 2: gone down and then I went down Saturday to collect
Speaker 2: fairy stones.
Speaker 1: Now I've never been to that park, but I actually
Speaker 1: earlier today I looked it up and it was it's
Speaker 1: nearby a couple of locations where I've been to, okay
Speaker 1: several times with my previous company. I used to do
Speaker 1: a lot of deliveries down that way, right, and uh
Speaker 1: so yeah, it was uh you know, when I looked
Speaker 1: up the park, I said, what is this park? Look
Speaker 1: it up hit maps and I was like, wow, yeah,
Speaker 1: just like the rest of the area, it's not but woods,
Speaker 1: you know it is.
Speaker 4: It's just on the backside of Floyd, Virginia.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh yeah, there's.
Speaker 2: Like the big mountain between them. It's in the middle
Speaker 2: of nowhere. I mean it takes wow. If you go
Speaker 2: the Floyd Way, it takes forever to get there. If
Speaker 2: you go through Martinsville down two twenty and five eighty one,
Speaker 2: it takes you kind of right to the park.
Speaker 4: And it's not a bad drive.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, because right where Stuart and Floyd is, you know,
Speaker 1: there's a little gap there. But I want to say
Speaker 1: it was more in Floyd. It could have been part
Speaker 1: of Stuart, Virginia. I know three or four years ago,
Speaker 1: I was down that way with an old girlfriend and
Speaker 1: we end up going to it's called Buffalo Mountains ziplines.
Speaker 1: And yeah, it's actually right on where their zip line is.
Speaker 1: It's basically right on the part of the Blue Ridge
Speaker 1: almost it borders the Blue Ridge.
Speaker 4: I'm sure at some elevation.
Speaker 1: Uh well, I mean well, yes, and no, I mean
Speaker 1: like the way the way the zip line Rhyns. I
Speaker 1: mean you go flying down on big longer extended hill.
Speaker 1: It's actually supposed to be one of the largest zip
Speaker 1: lines out there. They used to be set up, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they used to be set up. I don't remember the
Speaker 1: state that was somewhere out West, you know, so they
Speaker 1: used to be known as one of the biggest zip
Speaker 1: lines out there. And but what was cool about us
Speaker 1: one here? When we went there, of course, the first
Speaker 1: thing we see when we pull into the park lot
Speaker 1: is a big, giant bigfoot cut out up against the post.
Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, that's so cool. And then yeah,
Speaker 1: then you walk inside where you know, you get registered
Speaker 1: and everything, and where all their equipment is and a
Speaker 1: big another big giant painting on the wall of.
Speaker 5: Big Fluss said they it's a what's what's up with
Speaker 5: bigfoot with these guys? So we end up talking to
Speaker 5: the owner and he started telling us about, yeah, has
Speaker 5: been big sighting in this area right here, and I
Speaker 5: have no idea.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean that was just one of the
Speaker 1: little things we've heard. That wasn't actually report, that was
Speaker 1: just an information that he was sharing with us. But
Speaker 1: I have heard other sightings in that general area, some
Speaker 1: actually fairly recent. And the thing is, I don't know
Speaker 1: the exact pinpoint location compared to where you had yours,
Speaker 1: But I am in connection with that girl she lives
Speaker 1: down there because she she stands out on her back
Speaker 1: courch or deck or something, and she hears these weird vocalizations,
Speaker 1: and I will tell you some of them have been
Speaker 1: very strange. Then again, on the other hand, she sent
Speaker 1: me other ones, and I'm listening to them, and then
Speaker 1: these particular ones. I'm like, I asked her, I said,
Speaker 1: you live near a farm, because I know there's a
Speaker 1: lot of farms down She's like, she said, I don't know.
Speaker 1: She said, I don't think that the nearest farm bob
Speaker 1: about a mile or something like that. She said. I said, well,
Speaker 1: I know vocals, it sounds do carry, So I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm trying to gather more information from her,
Speaker 1: you know, as much as possible, right, because I mean
Speaker 1: and then again, you know, like I said, me knowing
Speaker 1: that location, yeah, I want to get down there. I
Speaker 1: mean it's a good two hour drive, you know, right,
Speaker 1: So yeah, because I know you go past what's it,
Speaker 1: you go back through Christiansburg and it's I know, the
Speaker 1: steward Age is right past o the Floyda.
Speaker 4: Actually, if you go.
Speaker 2: If you go down to Ronoke and turn to go
Speaker 2: to Ronoke and take that exit and go down five
Speaker 2: two twenty yeah to five eighty one, it's a little
Speaker 2: faster and it takes you.
Speaker 4: It takes you on a couple back roads.
Speaker 2: Phil Pott, there's Philpot Damn is back there, and it
Speaker 2: takes you on Philpot Road and then right out to
Speaker 2: fairy Stone Drive. Okay, it puts you right where you're
Speaker 2: supposed to be.
Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think that's the same
Speaker 1: way I used to have to go deliver to one
Speaker 1: of the pipeline jobs before. Yeah, because I used to
Speaker 1: have to write the road. Ok a lot too, and yeah,
Speaker 1: get off, And I know, I think I know exactly
Speaker 1: what you're talking about. Right, Yeah, it's been it's been
Speaker 1: a minute since I've been down that way, but for
Speaker 1: the most part, I'm pretty familiar with a lot of that, right. So,
Speaker 1: uh so you were down there visiting a friend and everything,
Speaker 1: and uh you guys, what were.
Speaker 4: You just know? I went down to hunt fairy stones.
Speaker 2: Oh oh, okay, I went down. I've been making jewelry
Speaker 2: out of the faery stones. And there's a place called
Speaker 2: fairy Stone Pit Stop. It's a gas station and you
Speaker 2: park at the gas station and it's just a little
Speaker 2: trail that you walk in and you can kind of
Speaker 2: I think you can. I think there's a waterfall, maybe
Speaker 2: that you can go in and see. I've never made
Speaker 2: it past maybe, like I don't even go a quarter
Speaker 2: mile in there because there's so many good spots for
Speaker 2: me to hunt, you know, the stones, So I just
Speaker 2: keep kind of close to the beginning of the trail.
Speaker 1: Huh. So uh were you by yourself when you were
Speaker 1: doing all this?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Oh, oh, okay, that's that's all right because for some reason,
Speaker 1: I mom given attention. You're down there with your friend
Speaker 1: and you.
Speaker 4: Know, well, I have a friend that goes with me.
Speaker 2: She was with me two weeks ago, and she was
Speaker 2: and nothing happened then. But I was by myself this
Speaker 2: last time when this went down.
Speaker 1: All right, I'll tell you what. Let's not keep the
Speaker 1: audience waiting the morca. I know they're they're interested in
Speaker 1: learning about this and hearing about this. So if you
Speaker 1: want to kind of give us a backstory on what
Speaker 1: you were doing and then what led up to everything.
Speaker 2: So, like I said, I do really believe in Bigfoot
Speaker 2: and or soft Squatch, whatever they are. And I've been
Speaker 2: following Trish Packett. She has been on the podcast Flash
Speaker 2: of Beauty and they had that movie Flash of Beauty.
Speaker 2: So now it's a podcast, and she had made mentioned
Speaker 2: that she's had a lot of experiences and that we
Speaker 2: need to not be scared, be curious, and we need
Speaker 2: to change our mindset. And so in hearing her say that,
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, maybe she's right about.
Speaker 4: That, you know.
Speaker 2: And she said if you put your intentions out there,
Speaker 2: good intentions, or that hey i'm here, do you know
Speaker 2: I'm here, that they will respond. And so two weeks ago,
Speaker 2: when I went down I did that. I just said, hey,
Speaker 2: i'm here. If y'all want to come help us find
Speaker 2: fairy stones, come on out, just half heartedly, you know,
Speaker 2: and jokingly, you know. And when I got down there
Speaker 2: this time, immediately upon walking in, I did the same thing.
Speaker 2: I said, I'm back if you if anybody's here, you know, wants.
Speaker 4: To come out, make themselves known.
Speaker 2: If you want to help me hunt stones, you know,
Speaker 2: I'll be here for a while.
Speaker 4: I just that's all said.
Speaker 2: And there was one family there when I got there
Speaker 2: and I was hunting stones. They didn't didn't know what
Speaker 2: they were looking for, and so I helped them for
Speaker 2: about an hour and a half. I helped them find stones.
Speaker 2: They had three little girls, and so I'm helping them
Speaker 2: pick stones up and showing them which ones are which,
Speaker 2: and I got done helping them and I said, all right,
Speaker 2: I'm going to go find some for myself. And so
Speaker 2: I found a spot and I started digging, and I
Speaker 2: found a bunch that I did not need, didn't want
Speaker 2: for jewelry, and so I I in my mind, I said,
Speaker 2: you know, I'm going to leave them for somebody else.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to put them back in the ground,
Speaker 2: but I'll just leave them for someone else to find
Speaker 2: and that way they can have the experience too. And
Speaker 2: I got done with that. But while I was there,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. While I was there digging in that spot,
Speaker 2: I just kind of in my mind thought.
Speaker 4: Are you here? And I just halfheartedly jokingly in my mind,
Speaker 4: you know, are you here? And then all of a sudden,
Speaker 4: I heard this really loud.
Speaker 2: Clock and there's nobody else up in there with me
Speaker 2: except that one family, and they were getting ready to leave,
Speaker 2: and I jumped up immediately and went, yes, you're here,
Speaker 2: and I just made that's I just got excited. Maybe
Speaker 2: maybe it was bigfoot, maybe it wasn't. Okay, So I
Speaker 2: went on to picking my stones, and as I went
Speaker 2: back down to the trail, there was a little lady
Speaker 2: there with two kids, and she didn't know what she
Speaker 2: was looking for either. And I had just I had
Speaker 2: just walked past this, you know, I just walked up
Speaker 2: in there. So I had been looking around all the
Speaker 2: roots because that's where the stones are. They're in the
Speaker 2: root system, and because it's very rutted out in there
Speaker 2: because of rain, it's kind of a really kind of
Speaker 2: a steep pitch. And so I had been looking at
Speaker 2: all of the root systems that as I'm walking up
Speaker 2: in there, and when I came down, I saw this
Speaker 2: little lady.
Speaker 4: She was telling me she was from Ashland, Virginia.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I grew up north from there.
Speaker 2: She saw me she's from Ashland, and she introduced me
Speaker 2: to her kids, and I was showing them how to
Speaker 2: find the stones and where they were, and started helping
Speaker 2: them a little bit, and all of a sudden, she goes, hey,
Speaker 2: what's that? And I said, what do you mean? And
Speaker 2: she looked down and beside this tree on a root
Speaker 2: was a tiny like.
Speaker 4: The size of a ford hook.
Speaker 2: Butterbean or lima bean was a little stone and it
Speaker 2: was painted, intricately painted. And I didn't think anything of it,
Speaker 2: and She's like, oh, it's only been two families. And
Speaker 2: I just walked past this very tree and it just
Speaker 2: looked at its roots because I'm looking for stones there
Speaker 2: and it had just rained, so that was perfect timing.
Speaker 2: So she looks at the stone. It had red white
Speaker 2: and blue. It was red white and blue, and it
Speaker 2: looked like kind of like an old symbol of the Patriots.
Speaker 2: That's what I thought of when I saw it. That
Speaker 2: was the first cop that came in my mind was Patriots.
Speaker 2: And I told her, I said take it, you keep it.
Speaker 2: And it wasn't until this morning, two o'clock in the
Speaker 2: morning that it dawned on me what had happened. That
Speaker 2: I had just experienced a gift, but I gave the
Speaker 2: gift away, if that makes sense.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've seen other on a flash of beauty.
Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, there was a lady that
Speaker 2: had her cat had died and she was very distraught.
Speaker 2: She went out to her car one morning and went
Speaker 2: to get in and there was a painted stone with
Speaker 2: a cat on it, you know, kind of strange. Another
Speaker 2: lady got had a heart, had a bypass surgery, and
Speaker 2: after about six weeks went out to do hanging some laundry,
Speaker 2: and there was a heart, like a rock shaped heart
Speaker 2: sitting at her clothesline, and they had all experienced bigfoots before.
Speaker 2: So I kind of put the two and two together
Speaker 2: to say, oh, wait a minute, I think this. I
Speaker 2: think they left me a gift. Now, whether they did
Speaker 2: or not, I don't know, but there was no one
Speaker 2: else in there. I had already passed this tree, I
Speaker 2: had already checked its root systems. How did that little stone.
Speaker 1: Get there right exactly?
Speaker 2: You know, like twenty minutes twenty thirty minutes after I've
Speaker 2: already looked at it. And the little lady didn't put
Speaker 2: it there, And there's nobody else in there because they
Speaker 2: would have had to have come past me to get
Speaker 2: anywhere I would have been there. So that's that's my experience.
Speaker 2: I know it sounds kind of choppy a little bit,
Speaker 2: but I felt like I felt like it was an
Speaker 2: experience that bigfoot put it there for me because I
Speaker 2: was giving the whole time I was in there, I
Speaker 2: was giving. I was giving to other families, giving to
Speaker 2: other people. I left rocks, you know, for anyone else
Speaker 2: that came around, and my intentions were all good and giving,
Speaker 2: and so I think what was left for me, so
Speaker 2: very interest that was. That was that's my second experience.
Speaker 2: I've heard the woman's screen before.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, like like way down in the same
Speaker 1: area or No, that.
Speaker 4: Was this time. I was in Leadville, Colorado.
Speaker 1: Oh, I wouldn't Colorado. Okay.
Speaker 2: I didn't realize that there was sightings in Leadville apparently,
Speaker 2: and was camping and woke up at about three o'clock
Speaker 2: in the morning to what sounded like a woman screaming
Speaker 2: for her life and there was only like two other
Speaker 2: campers in the area and they were all asleep.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was pretty.
Speaker 2: Sure that that was. Yeah, I'm not going to check
Speaker 2: when they do that, I don't go check that.
Speaker 1: Yeah. The one of the known speeches of the animal that's
Speaker 1: known for uh sounded like it's a woman screaming is
Speaker 1: actually a mountain lion.
Speaker 4: Oh okay, well, yeah.
Speaker 1: They're very commonly known for that. I'm not saying maybe
Speaker 1: you've heard different. I don't know so, but I just
Speaker 1: wanted to let you know. I'm assuming they're probably calming
Speaker 1: out that way.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I did.
Speaker 2: I sat up immediately and went bigfoot like something in
Speaker 2: my mind that I knew immediately, you know, that it
Speaker 2: was who knows. Who knows, But my I have questions
Speaker 2: too if they are gifting. I've always heard that if
Speaker 2: you have something that belongs to them, like footprints or
Speaker 2: a gift that they've given you, that it gives you
Speaker 2: a connection to that to whoever, that whatever, that entity is,
Speaker 2: that that being that cryptid And my question would be,
Speaker 2: since I gave that stone away, would that give her
Speaker 2: that connection? Would she maybe have exiting at some point
Speaker 2: because they know that she's she's cool?
Speaker 4: You know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: That is a good question. I'm going to try to
Speaker 1: respond to that. Meanwhile, anyone listening feel free to chime
Speaker 1: in on the live chat and we'll offer your question
Speaker 1: out there. Or are your response I should say, I do?
Speaker 1: I mean, in my honest opinion, I believe like you
Speaker 1: were given something and then you took that gift as
Speaker 1: your own and then you immediately passed it honest. You know,
Speaker 1: like I'm trying to think what's the best way of
Speaker 1: saying it's showing that you were kind or you know,
Speaker 1: you were being kind and kind and hearing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, I think you know that.
Speaker 1: Huh. Yeah. Virginia cryptod and Paranormal Research said it may
Speaker 1: give you both a connection.
Speaker 4: Oh good, that's even better.
Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah, And my other.
Speaker 2: Question, like, I never saw I've never gotten to see
Speaker 2: anyone else's rock. They're stones, even though they are told.
Speaker 2: I wish I'd taken a picture of it. I'm so
Speaker 2: absent minded when it comes to stuff like this because
Speaker 2: I'm so focused on what I'm doing, you know, looking
Speaker 2: for stones. I wasn't focused on that being a gift,
Speaker 2: so I didn't take a picture of it. But my
Speaker 2: question would be the other stones that people have gotten
Speaker 2: or gifts that they've gotten. If anything was painted, was
Speaker 2: it really intricate because it had to have taken it,
Speaker 2: It had to have been something with thumbs obviously, And
Speaker 2: it was very precise. I mean the lines and everything
Speaker 2: were perfect, like just perfectly straight, and there was no paint.
Speaker 2: I mean it was so tiny, like I don't know
Speaker 2: how somebody painted on it anyway.
Speaker 1: Right, I know, that's a very interesting question. I Mean,
Speaker 1: the one person that comes to mind on here that
Speaker 1: knows a lot about rocks is Melissa. Melissa Leicster heard
Speaker 1: her husband on here and they're watching from Timberville. They go, yeah,
Speaker 1: they go cancer with me. All the time. And Melissa,
Speaker 1: as her husband will tell you, she's a rock hound. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: every time we go camping, she's looking around the creek
Speaker 1: beds and the river beds for rocks. So she can't
Speaker 1: know something about that.
Speaker 4: Here's a question for her. So this area in particularly
Speaker 4: is known to the Indians, the Native Americans.
Speaker 2: Oh, even more interesting, Yes, it's it's very well known.
Speaker 2: The Shenandoah Valley itself. Okay, the Sendo Valley itself was
Speaker 2: a hunting ground for the Native Americans.
Speaker 4: It wasn't meant to be lived in the secret grounds.
Speaker 2: And of course I'm pretty sure Stewart is part of that,
Speaker 2: and so is Fairrystone Park. But the stones that I'm
Speaker 2: finding are looking for are called fairy stones because they
Speaker 2: look like crosses. They look they because it's bar right,
Speaker 2: coal and calcite quartz that run into each other through lines,
Speaker 2: and they were the way they crossed, they become crosses.
Speaker 2: So the Native American folklore to these stones is they
Speaker 2: are the tears that God wept when he had to
Speaker 2: crucify his son. And I know that Native Americans have
Speaker 2: a connection with Sasquatch in the past and maybe still
Speaker 2: to this day.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: So it makes me wonder if there's some connection there
Speaker 2: that they're there because of.
Speaker 4: The stones, you know, because it's a special place.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, that's a good question. Well this
Speaker 1: is what's Melissa or she said, I gotcha, She's I've
Speaker 1: always wanted to go look for them.
Speaker 4: Let's go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there you go, Melissa, let's get I mean,
Speaker 1: Melissa could take these places of it. I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't know what you know about this area, but like
Speaker 1: you know, especially where we used to camp at. I
Speaker 1: mean some of the main research in camp here is
Speaker 1: you know, up around Elkow Lake, West West Augusta, you know,
Speaker 1: the West Rockingham, you know those areas we go into
Speaker 1: and check out. Of course, I found myself looking for rocks,
Speaker 1: I really do. Uh. Every time I'm walking along the
Speaker 1: edge of the creek or whatever that's got a lot
Speaker 1: of rocks, I'm looking at them because my daughter used
Speaker 1: to be expressed in rocks. I used to pick them up,
Speaker 1: you know. And right now, you know, un plus, I'm
Speaker 1: being an extra observed now because I'm taking my four
Speaker 1: year old grandson out and right yeah, I got to
Speaker 1: be you know, very observed. Watch out what may be around,
Speaker 1: you know, like stakes and stuff.
Speaker 4: You know, it's you know.
Speaker 2: It's crazy to think though that this little tree that
Speaker 2: that was near me, where this rock was found, this
Speaker 2: little stone, it wasn't just a couple of steps away
Speaker 2: from me and I didn't hear a thing. Yeah, just
Speaker 2: to think that they could have been that close to me.
Speaker 2: And because I always look at rocks and I'm looking down,
Speaker 2: I wouldn't see him anyway.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is from a Virginia cryptos uh paranormal research
Speaker 1: a David Uh. It maybe the possibility that those rocks
Speaker 1: are painted by humans and then gifted to Bigfoot. Then
Speaker 1: Bigfoot gives them that to who they encoire maybe question mark.
Speaker 2: But there was nothing on the tree when I came in,
Speaker 2: and there were no other families except for the one
Speaker 2: lady that I met, and she's the one that found it.
Speaker 1: Right, Like, I guess what he's saying is like, perhaps
Speaker 1: it's something that somebody left at one point and then yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: where they may have been holding on to it or
Speaker 1: had possession of it, and that's where he left.
Speaker 2: Okay, that makes sense possible. Yeah, kind of like we're
Speaker 2: doing ash with Bigfoot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go. That's the way to look at it. So,
Speaker 1: you know, it's funny you talking about geocash and I
Speaker 1: actually stumbled upon a geocash spot one time. It was
Speaker 1: all by accident.
Speaker 4: I have where a couple of those are too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a do you know where the cold Road
Speaker 1: is down by Sarando, Well, it's Randa's want to an
Speaker 1: screw it? Well, way back in the woods. You know,
Speaker 1: I do a lot of hiking. I go pretty bad
Speaker 1: in the woods. And I was so far back there
Speaker 1: and there's an old trail. It's kind of worn out.
Speaker 1: It's not used as much, but you can still see it.
Speaker 1: But I stepped off the trail one day, but maybe
Speaker 1: ten feet or so, and you know, I'm standing there. Also,
Speaker 1: I'm looking over and here's this pretty big round tree
Speaker 1: and it's kind of opening inside of it, like you know,
Speaker 1: naturally hallow section. It was like, what the heck is
Speaker 1: that I'm looking over there? And I reach in there,
Speaker 1: I pull out this is you know whatever, this round
Speaker 1: circle power and I opened it up. Oh, I do
Speaker 1: you know, I've never seen one before. I knew exactly
Speaker 1: what it was because I'm looking at I'm reading a
Speaker 1: little slip in there, and there's all these little knick
Speaker 1: knacks and.
Speaker 4: Whatever initials in there too, like the little there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a little notepad and you you write your
Speaker 1: name and the date you were there, you know. So
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't remember if I wrote anything
Speaker 1: in there, because you know, I wasn't even geocashing, But
Speaker 1: I don't know if I feel wrote anything down. But
Speaker 1: I did leave. I had, like I have business cards
Speaker 1: made up for you know, big you know, my Bigfoot
Speaker 1: research and everything, and actually back then, yeah, I've actually
Speaker 1: left one in there, you know. Yeah. But yeah, like
Speaker 1: I said, I didn't know how often that how people?
Speaker 1: You know, I know there's groups out here. I've looked
Speaker 1: them up online. There are local geo geo cash groups,
Speaker 1: but I don't know how active they are or how
Speaker 1: often they do it. So I don't, you know, but
Speaker 1: I thought there was. It's it's kind of a fun thing.
Speaker 2: I've seen people doing it and watch them out like
Speaker 2: at the beach and watch them out the window, and
Speaker 2: then then I run down and look to see what
Speaker 2: they put in.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely. Here's a here's a comment here from
Speaker 1: Jack talking about the gifting. Sometimes they get back and
Speaker 1: sometimes they just give, and sometimes they don't but take,
Speaker 1: but take, and then they even ask for cake, and
Speaker 1: they ask for things more of course. Yeah. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: hard for me to read some of this. I don't
Speaker 1: know glasses. Yeah interesting, mhmm. Well and oh then you
Speaker 1: said they'll run you out if they if you don't
Speaker 1: respect the land for sure.
Speaker 4: Oh I absolutely respect the land.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. I love the land, love the forest absolutely.
Speaker 1: I can't get enough of it, be honest with you.
Speaker 1: I wish I could be out there more, you know.
Speaker 1: But you know, like the area, especially in certain particular
Speaker 1: areas I love to be in, and you know, like
Speaker 1: where I camp at, it's it's like, man, I just
Speaker 1: love being there. It's like when I was there with
Speaker 1: my grandson, because you know, that particular area where I
Speaker 1: took them to was my main camping here, a research area,
Speaker 1: and I was like, man, it feels so good to
Speaker 1: be here because this is like I feel like the
Speaker 1: area is pure, if that makes any sense.
Speaker 4: That's how fairy Stone feels.
Speaker 1: Yeah, It's like you feel right being there. It's like,
Speaker 1: you know, and just the atmosphere, the environment, with the
Speaker 1: vibe that I get from being there. It's like I
Speaker 1: feel like it's good for me, it's good for the soul.
Speaker 1: It's like this is and I feel welcome there, you
Speaker 1: know that, you know I do. So it's very interesting
Speaker 1: you can kind.
Speaker 2: Of tell energies about energy levels at different areas that
Speaker 2: you're at, like wood the woods.
Speaker 4: You know, sometimes you go to walk in somewhere and
Speaker 4: you're like, uhh, I can feel it here, like now
Speaker 4: I'm out, you know.
Speaker 2: Like it's like that in Arkansas in certain places when
Speaker 2: you're when you're in the woods there, it just feels
Speaker 2: completely off right. I just won't want to be there.
Speaker 2: It's like I need to go. But fairy Stone is
Speaker 2: really peaceful. And this this trail that I'm on, it's
Speaker 2: almost like a time zone, like a time warp, because
Speaker 2: I go, I go in there, and I was there
Speaker 2: for four hours, and all of a sudden, the time
Speaker 2: is gone.
Speaker 4: I'm like, how did how was I in here this long?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: But it was so peaceful up in there, and it's
Speaker 2: so quiet that you can hear anything. You pretty much
Speaker 2: hear anything, even conversations. So yeah, it's really quite very quiet,
Speaker 2: very peaceful. I don't know, I want to go back.
Speaker 2: I'm ready to go back. Now and have the same
Speaker 2: have another experience, you know, now.
Speaker 1: You're talking about it, you know, the the whole rock
Speaker 1: getting thing. Now, now you mentioned that you saw a
Speaker 1: big foot that I no, No, I haven't.
Speaker 4: I haven't seen one yet. I'm hoping to. I'm hoping
Speaker 4: maybe on.
Speaker 1: My neck, oh, hoping on my next But.
Speaker 4: That's what I was saying.
Speaker 2: It could have been, you know, twenty feet away, ten
Speaker 2: feet away from me where that tree was.
Speaker 4: And I never never saw a thing.
Speaker 1: Their stealth and yeah, you never heard nothing at all.
Speaker 2: Right, No, not after the that big crack. It sounded
Speaker 2: like a tree came down.
Speaker 4: I'm not joking.
Speaker 2: I mean it was a huge crack or like a
Speaker 2: branch like how they hit the tree. It sounded like
Speaker 2: they took a big branch and hit it at a
Speaker 2: tree and busted busted it up.
Speaker 1: It was a crack like wow, Yeah, I've had that
Speaker 1: happened a few times. Yeah, in certain areas, I've heard
Speaker 1: that happened a couple of times.
Speaker 2: So it wasn't like you know, you know the sounds
Speaker 2: if you're used to going in the woods, you know
Speaker 2: when you hear a deer step on leaves, you know
Speaker 2: it's it's just a light crackle right.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, you're in.
Speaker 4: A big crack like that.
Speaker 2: It really it really made every maybe take you know,
Speaker 2: stand up and take attention and look at it.
Speaker 4: See what was going on.
Speaker 1: Absolutely now, Melissa here, Sarah. She said, if I get
Speaker 1: I always get the rock or something from nature, such
Speaker 1: as pine cone feathers, native berries. Now I've done feathers before. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: I never.
Speaker 2: I had no no idea that I would actually have
Speaker 2: an experience or I would have thought to leave something right.
Speaker 2: But because I was leaving stones, I was already leaving
Speaker 2: stuff behind and saying, oh, no, somebody else can have this,
Speaker 2: somebody else can have this, you know, So.
Speaker 4: I'm getting stuff left and right.
Speaker 1: Well some years ago. So I just thought I would experiment,
Speaker 1: you know, just for the heck of it. You know,
Speaker 1: like you know, a lot of people find rock stacks,
Speaker 1: and I tell you know, a lot of us rock
Speaker 1: stacks are usually made by people because you know, either
Speaker 1: they're they're marking a trail or for example, I could
Speaker 1: take it to a place right before you get into
Speaker 1: West Virginia. That's here in Virginia, and the creek is
Speaker 1: when you walk down into the woods where the creek is.
Speaker 1: There's a nice open, clear area where the creek is,
Speaker 1: and I mean kids or somebody. You know. It was
Speaker 1: only a few inches of water there, but it's clean,
Speaker 1: and there were rock shacks all over the place in there. One. Wow,
Speaker 1: that's awesome, you know. You know, it's cool to see that.
Speaker 1: So now I'm not saying Bigfoot won't do a rock stack,
Speaker 1: but you know, I'm just saying I from my experience,
Speaker 1: most people do them. But one of the things I
Speaker 1: did one day, uh and it's not my marine research area,
Speaker 1: but I built a rock stack off the off the
Speaker 1: edge of a trail that goes in the back of
Speaker 1: the woods where I've actual I had experiences. But I said,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna try to do something, you know,
Speaker 1: just it's gonna be fun, you know. So I built
Speaker 1: my rock stack with five stones, and you know, they
Speaker 1: all sat easily where they wouldn't easily fall off, you know.
Speaker 1: And I would go back and visit that spot every
Speaker 1: two weeks or so. And I think the first visit
Speaker 1: back to that location, the top rock was sitting on
Speaker 1: the ground and I said, okay, I say, I don't
Speaker 1: think we had any extremely strong winds. They would have
Speaker 1: to be some strong wing to blow of the rock,
Speaker 1: now you know my understanding. Well, I put that rock
Speaker 1: back and left, came back into other couple of weeks
Speaker 1: or a week and a half. The two weeks later,
Speaker 1: and this time a fresh you know, it was a long,
Speaker 1: fresh turkey feather laying right in front of the rock stack.
Speaker 1: So so I was like, huh, this is interesting. So
Speaker 1: what I did that top rock. I took that top
Speaker 1: rock off, took the feather put on top, and then
Speaker 1: put the top rock back on top. Okay, I had
Speaker 1: the rocks that kind of pyramid up and then hanging
Speaker 1: out the top.
Speaker 2: So and uh, somebody would have to do something on
Speaker 2: purpose to move that.
Speaker 1: Right, Okay, Right, Well, upon my next visit, that turkey
Speaker 1: feather was back on the ground along with that top
Speaker 1: rock on the ground. So something or somebody knows about this,
Speaker 1: and they're either they're interacting with me, you know. I mean,
Speaker 1: I can't say Bigfoot did it, because I don't have
Speaker 1: no proof that I was, you know, witnessing it. But
Speaker 1: something with hands was messing with it, you know.
Speaker 4: Right right, And.
Speaker 2: That is that a highly traveled area by a lot
Speaker 2: of hikers.
Speaker 1: Like I said, this was off the well. There is
Speaker 1: a trail there, the trail and go so far that
Speaker 1: stots and uh. But this is the same location where
Speaker 1: me and my buddy Mike from Kentucky was up there
Speaker 1: and we had treetops all around us, you know. Okay,
Speaker 1: uh in this area. There was another time when my
Speaker 1: daughter was still my oldest daughter, when she was still
Speaker 1: a teenager. She was with me and there used to
Speaker 1: be a log going across the trail over there, and
Speaker 1: she was sitting down the blog and I had my
Speaker 1: my para bug mic, you know, and I was listening
Speaker 1: and it's even through my para bug mic. I mean,
Speaker 1: it sounded like it was right in front of me.
Speaker 1: But you all hear is bang bang bang bang, and uh,
Speaker 1: I'm listening to all this. I was like, you know,
Speaker 1: I just happen to look over at her. She's she's pointing,
Speaker 1: and I took my head set. What what are you
Speaker 1: pointing at? She said, Daddy, I hear that banging. I said,
Speaker 1: what you hear what? I said? That's how close it was.
Speaker 1: She but I'm not seeing nothing, but something out there
Speaker 1: is banging. You know. This is the same general area
Speaker 1: where me and my friend had knocks and bang all
Speaker 1: around us one time. Well cool, yeah, so, like I said,
Speaker 1: this is like that big tree right across the trail,
Speaker 1: but yeah, we were off the trail probably about fifteen
Speaker 1: feet maybe, you know, right. So, but now, actually, last
Speaker 1: time I was in this area, it looks like somebody's
Speaker 1: clear cut in this area. You know, it used to
Speaker 1: be kind of thick and you know, it was like
Speaker 1: a small, small, little opening area. Then it used to
Speaker 1: be a lot of bushes. But it's like all the
Speaker 1: bushes got hacked out of there or something. I don't know,
Speaker 1: maybe people can't back there or something. I don't know. Maybe, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's been a lot of change in the area since
Speaker 1: the last time I really spent time there, but so yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. It was definitely interesting for sure, But
Speaker 1: that was the one time. Yeah, that was the one
Speaker 1: time I actually really gifted. I mean, I've done it
Speaker 1: a couple of times in other areas, not with a rockstack,
Speaker 1: but I left little trinkets and stuff, you know, like
Speaker 1: little cheap stuff that I made. Was like you know,
Speaker 1: you get the little beads with the doll store and
Speaker 1: get some yarn and make like cheap little junk necklaces.
Speaker 1: You know I've taken.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd seen somebody.
Speaker 2: Talked about I'd read an article that someone had left beads.
Speaker 4: Like you know, like a little bracelet or something like that.
Speaker 2: And and then it was gifted, like they left them,
Speaker 2: like some flowers or something like that was gone.
Speaker 4: And that's always heard to leave something that the other
Speaker 4: wildlife isn't going to eat.
Speaker 1: Yes, thank you for bringing it up, because I was
Speaker 1: actually eventually going to get into that. Uh. You know,
Speaker 1: when we get into discussions about you know, gifting, a
Speaker 1: lot of people ask me, do you believe get them? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it doesn't hurt. It's a fun experiment. However, a lot
Speaker 1: of people I don't know why they feel like they
Speaker 1: have to leave food. You know, I'm guilty of it.
Speaker 1: I've done it in the past too. Here's here's what
Speaker 1: we all need to eat that right, But here there's
Speaker 1: a danger involved too. I mean, if you're getting food
Speaker 1: in an area where people come by, regardless they can't
Speaker 1: there or happen to spend time to go out in
Speaker 1: the woods right there, you're habituating what is being attracted
Speaker 1: to that.
Speaker 6: So if it's wildlife, bears, or any other predators. Yeah,
Speaker 6: you're welcoming you know, danger in exactly. The other thing
Speaker 6: is too right. The other thing is too is we
Speaker 6: have no idea if these animals.
Speaker 1: Are allergic to any of our foods. Oh. Absolutely, Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's all kinds of chemicals that junking our food. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm surprised we're still living through it. But you know,
Speaker 1: but the thing is, you know, they're all organic. Everything
Speaker 1: is out there in the woods that's provided for them,
Speaker 1: you know, But we're introducing the chemicals and other stuff
Speaker 1: that they can have, right.
Speaker 2: And I don't want to affect I don't want to
Speaker 2: be one of those like people that goes into the rainforest,
Speaker 2: you know, and gets this unknown tribe sick.
Speaker 4: With their Germans, wipes them out. I don't want to
Speaker 4: do that, you know, by giving them wipes them out.
Speaker 2: I just want to be friends, That's all.
Speaker 1: Right, exactly exactly. So, Uh do you you do a
Speaker 1: lot of camping? Uh?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I do.
Speaker 2: Haven't camp down there, and I want to because the
Speaker 2: the park itself is beautiful and it has a beautiful lake.
Speaker 4: And that's what makes me think that it's a.
Speaker 2: Good spot for bigfoot to be because there is a
Speaker 2: large I mean it's there's not just one lake. There's
Speaker 2: fairy Stone Lake the swimming area, and then there's something
Speaker 2: called Ryan's Lake which is beside it, just on the
Speaker 2: same road as the park, and it's I guess it's
Speaker 2: more of a fishing.
Speaker 4: Lake that people could put in on.
Speaker 2: So it's kind of I feel like there's lots of opportunity,
Speaker 2: lots of food for them and for in the area.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of deer in that area.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, So.
Speaker 2: I really think that that's that's probably what's bringing them there.
Speaker 2: I think they're like I said, I think there's a
Speaker 2: waterfall at one point in this trail that I go on,
Speaker 2: so there's lots of areas for them to have fresh water.
Speaker 2: And and of course being in that Floyd area, being
Speaker 2: so deep in the mountains, they're protected from a lot
Speaker 2: of people.
Speaker 4: There's not going down there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and for those who are watching and listening, I mean,
Speaker 1: if you're not familiar with the location, like I said,
Speaker 1: you know that all knows this area. I've been down
Speaker 1: there multiple times between Floyd and Stuart, Virginia and other
Speaker 1: areas out that way, and yeah, there's I mean, if
Speaker 1: you're gonna have residential people out there, people living up there.
Speaker 1: They're they're definitely mountain folk, you know, really not much.
Speaker 1: You're not going to find subdivisions and stuff like that
Speaker 1: out there. You might have some, you might have some
Speaker 1: farms here and there, but yeah, it's a lot and
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of woods out there, a lot
Speaker 1: of woods. So, I mean there's plenty of rooms for
Speaker 1: something that really stayed well hidden out there and getting
Speaker 1: elevation too.
Speaker 4: I didn't realize it. It's got some elevation to it.
Speaker 2: And Floyd actually is listed as one of the safest
Speaker 2: places on Earth in a natural disaster, say a nuclear
Speaker 2: blast or something like that. Floyd is listed as the
Speaker 2: number one place that is the safest.
Speaker 1: Wow, And I think, yeah, so I'm I didn't know that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy, but I think that's because of the
Speaker 2: way it's situated in between the mountains. And I would
Speaker 2: think that that's another reason why they would want to
Speaker 2: be down that way, because it is heavily wooded. There's
Speaker 2: lots of places for them to hide, to live, to be,
Speaker 2: you know, and be left alone.
Speaker 1: Right that would you believe? I mean, do you think
Speaker 1: that there's possible cave structures down that way.
Speaker 2: Yes, there are, because let's see Glade Springs, which is
Speaker 2: kind of the opposite a little east of that. But
Speaker 2: Glade Springs has caves. And then there's Cave Springs, which
Speaker 2: is in town, and it has some caves.
Speaker 4: I'm trying to remember.
Speaker 2: I think there's a few in Roanoak, and I know
Speaker 2: there's some down in Floyd because I've heard people splunking
Speaker 2: down there and caving.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I see, And that makes me wondering, like, and
Speaker 1: these are not commercialized cave like you know, caverns lay.
Speaker 2: Nobody's going and visiting them, exactly.
Speaker 1: And see over in my marine research area, even though
Speaker 1: you know, I know for a fact there are caves there.
Speaker 1: You know, some of them are in like I've seen them,
Speaker 1: you know, you know. But the thing is they're in
Speaker 1: locations where like, man, I might need some equipment to
Speaker 1: get up.
Speaker 4: There, you know, exactly, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: So I mean, I don't know, there's I know it's
Speaker 1: a matter of time to actually walk upon something where
Speaker 1: I may be able to walk into something. But most
Speaker 1: of everything, I discovered that a cave structure is too
Speaker 1: far on the other side of a water source like
Speaker 1: a river, or very steep mountain side.
Speaker 2: You know, so what we know they can do that.
Speaker 2: I mean they can scale you know the side of
Speaker 2: a mountain. We can't that we can't do They're like
Speaker 2: billy goats. I guess right, and I'm not.
Speaker 1: You know. The other thing to a lot of people
Speaker 1: are life like, Yeah, bears will go up hill, but
Speaker 1: they won't go down, you know, like the way that
Speaker 1: you know their their front, their shoulder instructure and their arms,
Speaker 1: they're they're definitely made for climbing. But yeah, so another
Speaker 1: fun fact that we're being chased by a bear yet
Speaker 1: run downhill, Well they will go a different way.
Speaker 4: That's good.
Speaker 1: That yeah, yeah, so interesting. So now the reason I
Speaker 1: was asking about the camp in there because you know,
Speaker 1: we do have our group camp out come out in May,
Speaker 1: and of course I never posted or mentioned the area publicly.
Speaker 1: So those who that are interested that we invite or
Speaker 1: you know that show interest, you know, I used to
Speaker 1: put I used to make announcements about the camp out,
Speaker 1: you know, I just kind of cut back on that.
Speaker 1: But because we have our designated group and then we
Speaker 1: do try to get a few new people here and
Speaker 1: there that are interested. So I was gonna throw the
Speaker 1: invite out there. You're all welcome to join us in May. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's like two or three other couples that come out there,
Speaker 1: you know, and then whoever else was able to make it.
Speaker 1: We got my friend Tara, she's going to try to
Speaker 1: come down from Pennsylvania. Well, no, she actually plans up
Speaker 1: being there. She missed last our last camp out. She's like,
Speaker 1: I need this. I'm coming down. She's gonna get the
Speaker 1: sixty seven hours in the way, but she's like, I'm
Speaker 1: coming down. I need to do this, you know, I
Speaker 1: need this camp.
Speaker 4: And are you guys going to camp up this way?
Speaker 1: Uh, it's gonna be I will say this since we're live.
Speaker 1: It's it's uh west of Rockingham, west of.
Speaker 4: Okay, so it isn't south of here.
Speaker 1: It's going to be right, it's gonna be up this Yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh I got you. I got you. Yeah. So so yeah,
Speaker 1: because yeah, like Melissa say, we'll be there. So yeah,
Speaker 1: Wilson David are always there. I love having there. You know,
Speaker 1: they're part of my research too.
Speaker 2: So question for you, yeah, because it was it was
Speaker 2: posed to me today when I told about my experience.
Speaker 2: Do you think Bigfoot is part of this magical, like
Speaker 2: because some people are seeing orbs.
Speaker 4: And stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, coming from a different dimension. I've heard that Bigfoot's
Speaker 2: from a different dimension and they can turn into other
Speaker 2: things and fly off and all kinds of stuff. But
Speaker 2: do you think that they're an entity of being from
Speaker 2: where we are or do you think they're interdimensional.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you, because I've been presented
Speaker 1: to that multiple times. I do keep an open mind,
Speaker 1: but on that on that point there, I'll just say
Speaker 1: that theory. I don't tend to believe that theory because
Speaker 1: none of it's ever been proven. It's just a theory
Speaker 1: from one's imagination to like to explain something that they
Speaker 1: can't explain. But you know, for example, like well, you know,
Speaker 1: you see Bigfoot through the woods and next you know,
Speaker 1: you don't see it. You know, like, well, that's because
Speaker 1: he's blended in an environment. Watches Mount Guerrilla's you know,
Speaker 1: ten feet out in front of her. As soon as
Speaker 1: they're walking down the pole, they're gone.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, they could probably just step back
Speaker 2: into the woods and we don't see them because of the.
Speaker 4: Way their coloring is and they're camouflaged.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the other thing is they blend with the trees.
Speaker 2: You know, they've talked about the cloaking, you know, that
Speaker 2: kind of stuff, And I'm like, I don't think there's
Speaker 2: I don't think it's cloaking. I'll be honest with you.
Speaker 2: Maybe they do have that, maybe they don't. But there's
Speaker 2: a guy that runs a survival class and a tracking
Speaker 2: class and he literally a friend of mine told me
Speaker 2: about this. He takes about ten people out he goes
Speaker 2: and he hides and you have to find him.
Speaker 1: Oh and that, yeah.
Speaker 2: You have to find him. And literally he was just
Speaker 2: sitting up against a tree, and he said. The problem
Speaker 2: with trying to say, go into the woods and sert
Speaker 2: being a being a search party trying to look for
Speaker 2: someone is that we tend to have in our minds
Speaker 2: what we're going to look for, what we're seeing, what
Speaker 2: we've already predetermined what we're seeing, And so they could
Speaker 2: be sitting right beside a tree and we don't even
Speaker 2: see them because we're looking for something else exactly. Yeah,
Speaker 2: So this guy needs health completely and he doesn't have
Speaker 2: any kind of cloaking ability, you know, but he can.
Speaker 4: Hide in plain sight from people.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's what No.
Speaker 4: I just think that's what it is.
Speaker 2: I think that they just know, they know their surroundings
Speaker 2: and they're coloring, you know, they know how to blend.
Speaker 1: In, right, And I believe a lot of what we
Speaker 1: see and what we don't see, Like basically what you
Speaker 1: just explained to it's all about the mind's perception, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you know it's just.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you've already determined what you're looking for it could
Speaker 2: you know, like like I said, you know, you could
Speaker 2: be standing there looking for Bigfoot of all the pictures
Speaker 2: that we've seen a bigfoot, and maybe it doesn't look
Speaker 2: quite like that.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've never seen with my own eyes, So I
Speaker 2: don't want to have a predetermined image in my head
Speaker 2: just in.
Speaker 4: Case it comes out and it's got pearls on or something.
Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, but who knows, maybe it's
Speaker 2: got its hair dead, you know, And I don't want
Speaker 2: to have that predetermined thought process.
Speaker 4: So I'm not missing anything, right.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, it's the funny thing. I kind of
Speaker 1: want to bring this up because I got to thinking
Speaker 1: when you were asking about you know, the different abilities,
Speaker 1: and well, first of all, I will say Bigfoot, we
Speaker 1: should never underestimate him.
Speaker 4: You know that's true too, because you.
Speaker 1: Know, really we don't you don't, I mean, you witness
Speaker 1: see in him. We could have a rock phone at us,
Speaker 1: I mean, but that doesn't tell us anything about him,
Speaker 1: right about that. You know, however, I will say, and
Speaker 1: I've never seen a witnesses down here in Virginia, just
Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania. I mean, I've been in the woods in
Speaker 1: other states, you know, but during my time up at
Speaker 1: Pennsylvania and one of the state forest up there, now,
Speaker 1: long story short, in this area me it was you know,
Speaker 1: it was me and you know, old girlfriend. We were
Speaker 1: kind of sitting over there in front of the field
Speaker 1: that was you know, it was a small field and
Speaker 1: you had the woods all around you, and it was
Speaker 1: of course it was I want to say it was
Speaker 1: probably around January February. It was cold, and but we
Speaker 1: would get up there right before nightfall and there's these
Speaker 1: big balls that kind of board the edge of the field.
Speaker 1: So we get up there and we're sitting there and
Speaker 1: of course, as quiet as could be, night time falls.
Speaker 1: And what was interesting was at one point straight out
Speaker 1: in front of where I was standing, you know, Oh,
Speaker 1: let me back up a little bit. I decided since
Speaker 1: it was so quiet, we weren't hearing nothing, no animals
Speaker 1: or nothing, and I decided to give off a couple
Speaker 1: of wooks like I was who just two books. And
Speaker 1: then it wasn't long after that straight out in front
Speaker 1: of me you could clearly hear wood on wood. There
Speaker 1: was a knock right out in front of me, somewhere
Speaker 1: beyond the tree line there right Well, moments later, she
Speaker 1: was sitting down on one of the lower boulders by herself.
Speaker 1: I mean, she was within view. You know, it was dark,
Speaker 1: I knew where she was, but straight out in front
Speaker 1: of her, in that directoral there was another knock. So
Speaker 1: that was exciting to you know. It's like, well, we
Speaker 1: both look at each other when we heard the first one, right,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, it's like and then we both
Speaker 1: heard the second one. Well, after that, she stayed focused.
Speaker 1: I noticed most of the time she was watching straight
Speaker 1: up in front of what she was sitting. And she
Speaker 1: was telling me about something about seeing eye shine. I said,
Speaker 1: what I said, I'm not seeing it from my position.
Speaker 1: So I get down and I go sit down on
Speaker 1: a boulder next to her, and I'm sitting there, I'm
Speaker 1: like I'm literally right next to her, looking in the
Speaker 1: same direction. She points over. She said, yeah, I was seeing
Speaker 1: it over there. I said, eye shine, all right, I said,
Speaker 1: let me look. You know, we had we had a
Speaker 1: little bit of light, so anything that was out there,
Speaker 1: that's where the eye shine was coming from and reflecting
Speaker 1: off of what little light we were using. And and
Speaker 1: I'm standing over there, I'm starting to see something. But
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is not eye shot. You know, you
Speaker 1: know what the stars look like up in the sky. Yeah,
Speaker 1: picture them flashing, you know, in random locations. And now,
Speaker 1: for the record, I promise you these were not lightning bugs.
Speaker 1: Not this hold right, and lightning bugs usually flash yellow.
Speaker 1: These were, well, I will tell you there was a
Speaker 1: couple of yellow flashes, but most of them were all blue.
Speaker 1: They looked like like a whitish blue, like the stars,
Speaker 1: you know. And I was like, and I was telling
Speaker 1: her what I was seeing. I said, I'm seeing flashes
Speaker 1: like in a small cluster. And some of them did
Speaker 1: kind of somewhat spread out and kind of come back,
Speaker 1: and I didn't know what to think. I was like,
Speaker 1: I've never seen this before. And of course, you know,
Speaker 1: she has a different theory or feel. On a lot
Speaker 1: of this, she's mentioned that it was more of a
Speaker 1: you know, she said it was actually bigfoot's energy. It
Speaker 1: was a bigfoot was giving off some type of energy
Speaker 1: that was her bleed. Now, yeah, I'm not going to
Speaker 1: deny that. I don't know. Yeah, but but what was interesting.
Speaker 1: We've seen this a few times in this location because
Speaker 1: we would come back every so often, like probably twice
Speaker 1: a week maybe at a time, sometimes three times a week.
Speaker 1: You know, it depends on her work sedule at the time,
Speaker 1: and blah blah blah. But we would go up there
Speaker 1: and just sit in jail and listen. You know. We
Speaker 1: had we would go on weekends during gay time and
Speaker 1: exploring those woods, you know, I mean, and I've actually
Speaker 1: had pictures and video of some fairly decent sized foot tracks.
Speaker 1: I found one in the snow that was pretty impressive,
Speaker 1: you know, oh nice Yeah. And then I've had trail
Speaker 1: cameras out in those woods. I've only captured deer, you know,
Speaker 1: and nice buck out there. And uh, but about a
Speaker 1: half mile or so down the forest road there was
Speaker 1: a there was an actual camp spot down there, and uh,
Speaker 1: we sat hung out there one night. Now, keep in
Speaker 1: mind the location we were at was up behind us.
Speaker 1: We're sitting at the picnic table looking away from there
Speaker 1: in the other in another direction. One night, this is
Speaker 1: this only happened the one night we were in this flot,
Speaker 1: But I started seeing those flashing lights in another whole
Speaker 1: digging area, right, you know. And I don't look over
Speaker 1: there by just over there, to the next of that tree.
Speaker 1: I'm seeing some flat what we saw up there, you know.
Speaker 1: So I don't know. Like I said, I can't explain it.
Speaker 1: It was interesting.
Speaker 2: A lot of the things I have watched associate the
Speaker 2: little blue lights with big Foot, with sightings or with hearing.
Speaker 4: Noises, that kind of stuff in the woods.
Speaker 2: So right, maybe it's their energy. Maybe it's something that
Speaker 2: goes along with them. I mean, they are there's something
Speaker 2: that's not really typical, yeah, in society. So I would
Speaker 2: think that since they know that they're different, they probably
Speaker 2: believe in all kinds of things too. Maybe they do
Speaker 2: have communication with other entities.
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Now, Actually I forgot. I actually have
Speaker 1: it on here. It's the picture of woods at night
Speaker 1: time in the area I was just talking about. Right now,
Speaker 1: you're going to see, I added, the flashes in this
Speaker 1: one to kind of illustrate what I'm talking about. Okay,
Speaker 1: so I'll show it. Okay, Yeah, I'll play it again
Speaker 1: real quick. So I know that's not the best illustration,
Speaker 1: but I put that together some time ago, and yeah,
Speaker 1: so I use that for that. But that's kind of
Speaker 1: what I saw. But maybe more in a cluster though.
Speaker 1: But now when there I kind of spread them out
Speaker 1: a little bit.
Speaker 4: Well, I would think I would think too.
Speaker 2: And I'm since we've had these drone sightings and the
Speaker 2: weird stuff happening in Jersey, we've even had that here,
Speaker 2: I believe a lot more that there are other beings
Speaker 2: here and maybe because bigfoots out on the fringe, maybe
Speaker 2: they communicate with these other beings.
Speaker 4: Yeah, alien beings if you will.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, of course, there's a lot of other
Speaker 1: legends of Crypti behind different various folklore legends and stories.
Speaker 1: But you know, I mean, I know Bigot's only been
Speaker 1: my focus. You know, I do keep an open mind
Speaker 1: on certain things. Yeah, I can't I personally, and this
Speaker 1: is just me. I personally can't say I've ever experienced
Speaker 1: anything than what we would contribute to Bigfoot, you know.
Speaker 1: So but if there is something else around Romany's Woods,
Speaker 1: I would like to have that experience, and hopefully.
Speaker 4: It's I've seen it in the skies.
Speaker 1: But yeah, oh I see, yeah, I've seen some strange
Speaker 1: things up in the sky as well. Absolutely. Oh. Talking
Speaker 1: about the location where we seen the flash of lights, well,
Speaker 1: there was one night. You know, of course, there was
Speaker 1: a lot of you know, air traffic, you know, right,
Speaker 1: plane planes that jets passed by, but there was this
Speaker 1: one what appeared to be a star. You know, I
Speaker 1: was staring there. It was stationary. I don't know why.
Speaker 1: It's something about it captured my attention when I was
Speaker 1: staring at it, probably be about a good five minutes
Speaker 1: or so, and all of a sudden, from where, like yep,
Speaker 1: shot off like yeah, I said, what the heck? I said,
Speaker 1: an airplane that was too high up to be airplane?
Speaker 1: You know what was shoot off from that fast like lightning?
Speaker 1: From my stationary position, you know, So, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: that was in Pennsylvania. Pennsylvania. That's another Pennsylvania is known
Speaker 1: for a lot of strange.
Speaker 2: We actually when the drones started up in Jersey, I'm
Speaker 2: always looking in the skies, I mean looking at the
Speaker 2: ground or I'm looking in the sky.
Speaker 4: There's no in between.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely yeah.
Speaker 2: I noticed that we had a bunch of drones, you know,
Speaker 2: things going around in the sky.
Speaker 4: And then a few a few.
Speaker 2: Weeks past, you know, we had a bunch of a
Speaker 2: bunch of weird stuff in the sky called the Sheriff's
Speaker 2: Department actually had somebody come out and take a look,
Speaker 2: because I was.
Speaker 4: Like, this isn't normal.
Speaker 2: You know, I live I live within the flight path
Speaker 2: a weir's cave, so all the time I know exactly
Speaker 2: which way they're going that they're fixing the land kind
Speaker 2: of stuff. I know what they look like at night.
Speaker 2: I know what helicopters look like at night. And the
Speaker 2: little share of deputy was like, what is that? And
Speaker 2: I said, I don't know, you guys, but you were
Speaker 2: talking about that that zip off. For like a couple
Speaker 2: of weeks or a week or so, I'd had this
Speaker 2: flash of light in my eye from that window back there,
Speaker 2: and its right there at the road, and I have
Speaker 2: neighbors that sometimes I see the little light of their
Speaker 2: car and was I was like, there's something wrong. Why
Speaker 2: is it flashing at me? It kept on like that
Speaker 2: one eye I kept getting this light like a little beam,
Speaker 2: And so I got up and I got my phone
Speaker 2: because I'd already been looking for whatever was in the skies,
Speaker 2: and so I grabbed my phone, turn the video on,
Speaker 2: and I go to this window and I look and
Speaker 2: it's it's gone.
Speaker 1: Oh wow.
Speaker 4: And so I went to this window and it was there.
Speaker 4: I got video of it.
Speaker 2: I did, I do have video, and it's it was
Speaker 2: an orb and it was spinning and then it started
Speaker 2: moving up and you can see it's got red yellow
Speaker 2: and green, red yellow and green like swirling. It's weird
Speaker 2: because it looks like they look like balls, like little
Speaker 2: balls within a ball that are moving around right.
Speaker 4: And so then I'm recording it.
Speaker 2: It goes up a little ways and then all of
Speaker 2: a sudden it went gone wow. But then hold on,
Speaker 2: I know, people think I'm nuts. Three two one, it's
Speaker 2: back or something is back. It was black and it
Speaker 2: looked like I tell everybody, it looked like the plane
Speaker 2: the X wing Fighter that Luke Skywalker blue. It was
Speaker 2: black and it had like wings like that in the
Speaker 2: kind of on it and it was just right out
Speaker 2: my window, and I thought it was crazy. I actually
Speaker 2: dropped my phone in the video because it freaked me out.
Speaker 2: I mean, like a lot, I've seen things, but that's wild.
Speaker 4: I was like, And so my.
Speaker 2: Family we put put up cameras so that it's shining
Speaker 2: right at the tree that it liked to be above,
Speaker 2: and it happened. It hasn't come back, so I don't
Speaker 2: know what it was, but it was something I did
Speaker 2: a video of the orb, you know, right before it
Speaker 2: went out spacecraft.
Speaker 1: You don't think the neighbor was playing with a drone
Speaker 1: or you knew no.
Speaker 2: Okay, no, if you knew my neighbors, they work on motorcycles,
Speaker 2: drag drag motorcycles for drag racing.
Speaker 4: They're not mess.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But now now, yeah, you know over a New
Speaker 1: Hope Road over there, there's not New Hope Road actually yeah,
Speaker 1: with New Hope Romore Road. And then over over close
Speaker 1: door you're well over there, not far from up the road,
Speaker 1: a little ways from the old schools. I've had two
Speaker 1: big reports from those areas, but they're not recent. They
Speaker 1: were older reports. Uh one yeah, one was my old
Speaker 1: my boss, his wife, he was telling me about it.
Speaker 1: His wife had a big sighting, you know, during the
Speaker 1: broad daylight. She actually came in to where we worked
Speaker 1: at the time, and sat down with me on my
Speaker 1: lunch break and telling me her story. You know, wow, yeah,
Speaker 1: that was that was several years ago. And of course
Speaker 1: the story at that time was well, yeah, that was
Speaker 1: like seven eight years ago, and her story was around
Speaker 1: twenty years old at that time, so it's nearly thirty
Speaker 1: years old now.
Speaker 2: But and so it was she was down there in
Speaker 2: New Hope area when she saw it.
Speaker 1: She was driving. It came out of a tree line
Speaker 1: across the road and continue running across the field, following
Speaker 1: a cut bed, she says, out of town.
Speaker 2: And she grew up here in huge I will say this,
Speaker 2: I mean, if you've lived here all your life too,
Speaker 2: down there.
Speaker 1: And she knows bears, Yeah, it used.
Speaker 2: To be nothing but fields, you know, and like little knoles,
Speaker 2: like kind of little mountains, tiny mountains right in between
Speaker 2: homes and stuff.
Speaker 4: So there was a lot more area for them to
Speaker 4: live in.
Speaker 2: It's changed so much over the last twenty years. So
Speaker 2: there's so much more housing and you know, the roads
Speaker 2: have changed too, so they don't have as much.
Speaker 4: Yeah, as many places. We're kind of running them out
Speaker 4: of their areas.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the sightings, you know, like, you know, like
Speaker 1: I said, I've been trying to like the other girl
Speaker 1: that told me to report. She works as a village
Speaker 1: pizza over here. She lives, Yeah, she lives out and
Speaker 1: around close to the Church rail area that way. And I
Speaker 1: can't remember her name. I haven't brain fart as much
Speaker 1: as I you know, eat there. I was like, and
Speaker 1: I was like, I try not to bugger about it.
Speaker 1: I bugged her a few times. I was like, I
Speaker 1: really want, you know, for you to take me and
Speaker 1: show me the exact location, not that far you know.
Speaker 1: You know her sighting was like I said, right there,
Speaker 1: basically in the New Hope area as well, you know,
Speaker 1: but I don't know. It's like, I don't know, she's
Speaker 1: afraid to me. I don't know. I don't know, but
Speaker 1: I want.
Speaker 4: Go ahead.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I just want the information, just to document it,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: So well, I was looking at some topo maps uh
Speaker 2: of Cromora Mines area while I used to.
Speaker 4: And I used to do rip wrap trail all the time.
Speaker 2: And there are caves up in there, and there's lakes
Speaker 2: the old mines have turned into you know, have turned
Speaker 2: into lakes. But there's also some lakes natural lakes up
Speaker 2: in there that you can't even see unless you're looking
Speaker 2: like from Google Earth or something like that.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so there's a lot.
Speaker 2: Of places that they could be up in there. And well,
Speaker 2: I mean I have heard, oh I have heard big
Speaker 2: meadows mm hm ah yeah, sighting in big meadows of
Speaker 2: something up there.
Speaker 1: So I had multiple reports, Yeah, multiple rep what's along
Speaker 1: the parkway? One guy would give me a update earlier today, right, Well,
Speaker 1: he lives up north of Elston. Okay, yeah, yeah, Yeah.
Speaker 4: It's funny. We're having a lot more reports here in
Speaker 4: Virginia here lately.
Speaker 1: But you know, it's funny. Since I've stepped foot into
Speaker 1: this whole field and started learning and meeting people and
Speaker 1: put myself out there, I've learned a lot about Virginia
Speaker 1: when it comes to big reports and sightings and uh.
Speaker 1: And of course you know I had, like I said,
Speaker 1: with the recent reports I've been getting, you know, the
Speaker 1: reports and fightings and start to flare up again. But
Speaker 1: you know, I've actually had a journalist do an article
Speaker 1: because you know, it was a negative article because I
Speaker 1: didn't know about it to a buddy, my sorry and
Speaker 1: screen they set me the information. Of course, it was
Speaker 1: basically because I put on my conference every year. Basically,
Speaker 1: she was saying there was no bigfoots in Virginia because
Speaker 1: she was based on her information. She's, yeah, she's based
Speaker 1: on her for information off the BFR database. And I
Speaker 1: tell people that's not a reliable story, you know, because
Speaker 1: there's people. Yeah, there's people that don't share and report
Speaker 1: their stuff to the bf RO, either they don't know it,
Speaker 1: or if they do know the BFR O, they know
Speaker 1: they're not to be trusted. So you know. But because
Speaker 1: anybody support submits their information to the BFRO, that becomes
Speaker 1: to their information. It's no longer. Yeah. So that's why
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, you know, I got people want
Speaker 1: me to investigate places I just can't get out right away,
Speaker 1: you know. You know, it takes time. I have to
Speaker 1: plan it out, you know. It's like I can't just
Speaker 1: like Okay, I'll be there after work. No, it don't
Speaker 1: work that way. Yeah, I look forward to getting straight
Speaker 1: home from work.
Speaker 4: It would be nice, be nice if we could be
Speaker 4: retired and then just go out right research.
Speaker 1: I mean, like right now, weekends are my best time
Speaker 1: unless I plan out, like you know, I got the
Speaker 1: camp out in May. I got that planned out, but
Speaker 1: you know, that's a whole week. And then I got
Speaker 1: some events I'm speaking at this year, you know, so
Speaker 1: those are all planned out. I got the schedule to
Speaker 1: be there and all that good stuff. But but you know,
Speaker 1: other than that, I just can't take off, you know,
Speaker 1: because I got the baby here. You know, I just
Speaker 1: leave my parents and they're they're gonna watch them all
Speaker 1: the time, you know. So you know, even though he's
Speaker 1: my grandson, he's actually like my son. You know. He
Speaker 1: does call me dad. Yeah, yeah, so and I, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I hope to get him out there more. He had
Speaker 1: a lot of fun camping with me. Yeah, he did
Speaker 1: real good. So of course, you know, being four years old,
Speaker 1: you know, he does the thing. But you know, I
Speaker 1: was like, he did pretty good. I can't complain. Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1: Of course, when we go into ten and I had
Speaker 1: some I had a couple of movies downloaded on my phone.
Speaker 1: I up my power station and put my phone up there,
Speaker 1: and here we are, we're in the tent before we
Speaker 1: fall asleep watching Sonic Sonic the Headshog. Yeah. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: he had fun doing that, you know, Plus he had
Speaker 1: just snacks and whatever, so be happy.
Speaker 4: If I had my snacks too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely so yeah, but yeah, so, like I said,
Speaker 1: the the invitation to come out joining us, join a
Speaker 1: group camp. If you want more, I'll give you as
Speaker 1: much more information about that as you can. We're a
Speaker 1: good group. Uh. You know, we're very laying back and
Speaker 1: hill Uh. I mean we do hiking, we explore, you know,
Speaker 1: and in the main thing I'll be you'll see me
Speaker 1: with a camera. I'll be doing a lot of filling
Speaker 1: you know. Uh, because it's part of a new fielding
Speaker 1: project I'm working on. So from our YouTube channel, do
Speaker 1: you do you guys.
Speaker 2: Ever take any trail cams with you when you go
Speaker 2: out there camping, just to set them up for the time.
Speaker 1: Oh, actually we do. We set them not far away
Speaker 1: from the camp site, and I plan on setting up
Speaker 1: the few that I used to have a lot. Some
Speaker 1: of them got stolen, okay, Uh, so I will be
Speaker 1: putting some up while we're out there. So actually I
Speaker 1: did that last year.
Speaker 4: So can you put trail cams in the National Forest?
Speaker 1: You can? But the like I know, I've had game
Speaker 1: boarders tell me before when they pull it into the
Speaker 1: campsite and to check on you. Yeah, they're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: if you got any cameras out there, make sure you
Speaker 1: take them down when you leave.
Speaker 2: Well that's when I was I was wondering too though,
Speaker 2: like about putting some down on that trail. Just can
Speaker 2: you leave it for a week or so and just
Speaker 2: to see if it catches anything.
Speaker 4: I didn't know if it would be possible to do that.
Speaker 1: Well, the only problem with that there you would have
Speaker 1: to have it well hidden from people. If somebody else
Speaker 1: saw it, they probably patch it, especially if a park,
Speaker 1: if a park ranger or anybody that works the area.
Speaker 1: So right, yeah, so it's funny.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Virginia Kryptan and paranormal research David Uh, he said, did
Speaker 1: Daniel say we were a good group? So yeah, he said, yeah,
Speaker 1: we use cameras, recorders, I r thermals and.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Melissa is some night vision or a fleaer,
Speaker 2: some kind of fleer.
Speaker 4: I want something like that.
Speaker 1: To take absolutely. Yeah, I got a nice frmal flair.
Speaker 1: David just bought himself a new one. He's got a
Speaker 1: good one. So yeah, we uh, David, actually I could
Speaker 1: send that to you directly. He got his offer, of
Speaker 1: h he got I forget the sight. He got his offer.
Speaker 1: But yeah, he got a good deal. Like you can
Speaker 1: find the same one that David got. You can find
Speaker 1: it on Amazon, but on Amazon actually the price is
Speaker 1: a lot higher, I'm sure. So he went to Yeah,
Speaker 1: he went directly to the manufacturer's website and got it
Speaker 1: from there. Yeah, we have Parabog microphones stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, which actually mine. Uh, I was just messed
Speaker 1: with mine the other day. It's actually in the back
Speaker 1: of my vehicle right now.
Speaker 4: You've been listening to Day again.
Speaker 1: Yeah pretty much. Yeah, well this one here you could
Speaker 1: hear everything, you know. Here here the old couple across
Speaker 1: the street arguing in your bedroom.
Speaker 4: For that drinking you stop it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's funny you're talking about drinking. I
Speaker 1: usually I'm usually drinking during the podcast, but I have
Speaker 1: to be here. I'mpprop rate now, so I wait till
Speaker 1: the weekend. Yeah. So so, yeah, is there any other
Speaker 1: questions that you want to ask or oh wait, hold on, David,
Speaker 1: David put uh this is that's the name of the
Speaker 1: brand right there, if you can say, it's called Top
Speaker 1: Top Down and that's the model number that it's the
Speaker 1: S zero four, all right, so yeah, you could look
Speaker 1: that up. That's the brand he's got.
Speaker 4: Okay, awesome, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the one I have Mine is the kind of
Speaker 1: where it actually works and you can connect it directly
Speaker 1: through your phone, but you have to have the app.
Speaker 1: I have what they call the X Infrared. It's a
Speaker 1: thermal imager. It's not it's not regular infrared, uh, but
Speaker 1: it's a fermal And yeah, you might like what I
Speaker 1: paid for mine. I paid you know, about four hundred
Speaker 1: dollars of mine. Maybe have the final a little cheap. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but like I said, it comes to a little camera
Speaker 1: where you got plug the wire up, hook it into
Speaker 1: your phone and it has a little uh what do
Speaker 1: you call it, like a frame and everything with a handle.
Speaker 1: You can put your phone in it with the cameras
Speaker 1: out in front. Yeah, it's all. It becomes all handheld,
Speaker 1: which is nice. You you could do pictures or videos
Speaker 1: on it. And the cool thing about the video it
Speaker 1: actually picks up audio.
Speaker 2: So if if you're here there was something, you get
Speaker 2: the audio two to it.
Speaker 1: Right. So, but thermals old. You know, the main thing
Speaker 1: when it comes to thermals, it's the image or the
Speaker 1: imagery that really what you want to focus on, you know.
Speaker 1: But so, but when it comes to audio, we have
Speaker 1: separate equipment just for the audio to pick up all
Speaker 1: that good stuff. So yeah, but absolutely, so yeah, if
Speaker 1: you have any other questions, even later on about equipment,
Speaker 1: let you know. Yeah, if I don't know something, I'll
Speaker 1: connect you with David, because you know, David will tell
Speaker 1: you every time I buy something to show him, he's
Speaker 1: going to buy it too. So so yeah, like a
Speaker 1: domino effect when it comes to equipment. So but so yeah, Valley,
Speaker 1: I want to thank you for being on here, thank
Speaker 1: you for agreeing to join us. Absolutely yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: feel free to like sometimes we have open discussions and
Speaker 1: random podcasts, so feel free to you know, I'll let
Speaker 1: you know if we have an open round. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm cutting back on podcasts but you know where I'm
Speaker 1: going to be focusing on other things later. But but
Speaker 1: anytime we.
Speaker 3: Do do a podcast, I'll let you know when we
Speaker 3: have our group discussions and you'll get to you know,
Speaker 3: maybe meet Melssen David on a podcast, you know, or
Speaker 3: unless you decide to come out camp and you'll meet
Speaker 3: them in person.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, so but again, thank you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, let me show you my birthday present.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, hold on I'm enlarger screen here. Hold on,
Speaker 1: Oh oh nice? You found that at the Dollar Store?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Wow, I recognized the price tag from Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, a friend of mine gave me for my birthday.
Speaker 4: They know I like Bigfoot, so wow.
Speaker 1: I didn't know the big the doll store had big
Speaker 1: for decal.
Speaker 4: Apparently it has everything now wow.
Speaker 1: Actually I just got yeah when I went out camping
Speaker 1: with my grandson in the little country store before I
Speaker 1: go all the way into the woods. At the checker line,
Speaker 1: I thought they had a few details at the counter,
Speaker 1: I was like, Bigfoot right right. And it's cool because
Speaker 1: this is a it's a Bigfoot silhouette and it says
Speaker 1: Virginia a good place to hide, you know. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: they have Virginia. Yeah. I got one on each side
Speaker 1: of my vehicle and it actually looks good on my vehicle. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I drive a little Honda Fit. Yeah. So yeah, so absolutely,
Speaker 1: But yeah, I am gonna call it a night. And again,
Speaker 1: well yeah, like I said, feel free to stay in
Speaker 1: touch and thanks for sharing this information tonight. So everyone
Speaker 1: else that's been watching, thank you. Yeah, thank you again
Speaker 1: for tuning in everybody. So all right, you guys, have
Speaker 1: a good night and we're out.
Speaker 4: Bye.