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Speaker 1: I hope you're having a fantastic week. We have an
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Speaker 1: and help support the show. I got to sit down
Speaker 1: and talk to Richard Ferriby, who is an investigator down
Speaker 1: in Florida. He goes out looking for skunk ape. I
Speaker 1: actually met him when I was doing the skunk Ape
Speaker 1: round table at the Great Florida Bigfoot Conference back in
Speaker 1: early June. We talked about him coming on the show
Speaker 1: then and now Richard is here to share some of
Speaker 1: his amazing experiences while out looking for a skunk ape
Speaker 1: down in Florida. I think this is gonna be one
Speaker 1: you guys really enjoy. I have talked about this over
Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks, but I want to take
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Speaker 1: some of the other shows that I do. In addition
Speaker 1: to Sasquatch Odyssey, I host the show called That Bigfoot
Speaker 1: Podcast over with Wayne, my co host. It is not
Speaker 1: an encounter's based show. It is a conversation based show
Speaker 1: where we get into all kinds of things Bigfoot related.
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Speaker 2: But enough of that.
Speaker 1: I know you guys are ready to get into it.
Speaker 1: Richard's on the line, He's ready to go. All this
Speaker 1: left for you to do is sit back, relax, and
Speaker 1: enjoy the show. I want to welcome our guest to
Speaker 1: the show.
Speaker 2: It is Richard from Florida. Welcome to the show. Hey,
Speaker 2: how's it going, man?
Speaker 1: I am good and it's good to see you again.
Speaker 1: We got to spend some time down at the Great
Speaker 1: Florida Bigfoot Conference last month. Time flies when you're having fun.
Speaker 1: To believe it was that long ago that you and
Speaker 1: I were up on stage doing the skunk Ape Brown Table.
Speaker 1: You were one of the amazing guests that I had
Speaker 1: up there that do research down in Florida talking about
Speaker 1: the skunk apes. We talked about doing this and here
Speaker 1: we are. So let's get right into it. Before we
Speaker 1: get into any of your experiences and some of the
Speaker 1: research that you're doing down there in Florida, I start
Speaker 1: in the same place with everybody. What guy you interested
Speaker 1: in bigfoot, sasquatch and the skunk Ape.
Speaker 2: To begin with, I think going back as a child,
Speaker 2: of course, telling my age being born in nineteen sixty nine,
Speaker 2: so I grew up in that seventies era where this
Speaker 2: stuff as a child was coming out with the Patterson Gimland,
Speaker 2: Boggy Creek, stuff like that. So I think as a
Speaker 2: child it always drew interests, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: But not so much of an interest that I was
Speaker 2: scared of monsters under the bed or was scared of
Speaker 2: go in the woods at night. Living in Florida, I
Speaker 2: live in the country. I don't live in the quote
Speaker 2: beach areas of Florida or Disneyland or anything like that.
Speaker 2: I live in the country where it's a lot of land,
Speaker 2: a lot of four worst farmland and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: So being out the woods was just an everyday natural thing.
Speaker 2: You ran around barefoot in the woods, which just you
Speaker 2: just grew up as a kid and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: So it was never on my radar. Never as a
Speaker 2: child it was interesting. But even as a child, I
Speaker 2: can distinguish television from real life. As I got older,
Speaker 2: and you know, you get to that age where your
Speaker 2: uncles and fathers and stuff teach how to hunt and
Speaker 2: give you a gun and stuff, you started spending more
Speaker 2: time in the woods. So me and my siblings were
Speaker 2: avid hunters, avid outdoorsmans. Then really into my late twenties
Speaker 2: early thirties, really got into deer hunting. This is what
Speaker 2: I want to do all the time, every season. I
Speaker 2: was ready, had all the gear, all the money spent,
Speaker 2: so spent a lot of time in the woods. They
Speaker 2: put it was ever on that radar. Ever, it wasn't
Speaker 2: until later after I had an encounter that all the
Speaker 2: things that I'd ran into in the past in the woods,
Speaker 2: I started questioning it, you know. I mean, I can't
Speaker 2: say what it was, but it made me scratch my head,
Speaker 2: going what if all this time it was there and
Speaker 2: I just didn't pay it any mind. But it wasn't
Speaker 2: until I had my encounter I gave up putting all together,
Speaker 2: just gave it up. Never did that aspect of being
Speaker 2: in the woods ever again. I just I was done
Speaker 2: with it. I was fearful. I now had a healthy
Speaker 2: fear of the forest. I realized that I'm not the alpha.
Speaker 2: There are other things out there we're aware of, we're
Speaker 2: not aware of. Of course, we'll were of bears and
Speaker 2: panthers and stuff like that. But now I've got something
Speaker 2: out there that I can't explain. So it gave me
Speaker 2: that healthy fear for a very long time. It gave
Speaker 2: me nightmares for a long time. It was all of
Speaker 2: those things that happens in your life. It always comes
Speaker 2: back at nighttime when you go to bed, that thought
Speaker 2: of whatever that was in your life. It's constantly there.
Speaker 2: And that was in two thousand and five when that happened.
Speaker 2: Is an interesting story because now that I look back
Speaker 2: on it, sometimes I sit there because carry Arnold was
Speaker 2: a friend of mine, brought us together as friends. I've
Speaker 2: been out in the field with him, researching with him.
Speaker 2: Just an amazing guy. I'm thankful that this thing happened
Speaker 2: to me and then years later I was able to
Speaker 2: make that connection with him, because I would have never
Speaker 2: got to know him as a person. I'm very grateful
Speaker 2: for that.
Speaker 1: I want to circle back to a couple of things
Speaker 1: that you said there. I want to get into your
Speaker 1: encounter and your experience. But that's one of the things
Speaker 1: I've talked about on the show with so many people
Speaker 1: so many times, is in retrospect, after you have an
Speaker 1: encounter or an experience that you can definitely with as
Speaker 1: much certainty as you can tie to an experience with
Speaker 1: bigfoot or sasquatch people go back and look at all
Speaker 1: the things that happened to them. I've done this to
Speaker 1: myself so many times. I look back and talk about
Speaker 1: experiences that I've had in the woods that could have
Speaker 1: been it wasn't even on my radar at the time
Speaker 1: that had happened. I think that happens to so many
Speaker 1: people that have spent so much time in the woods,
Speaker 1: these weird things that happened that you just write off
Speaker 1: as nothing at the time, or oh, that was whatever
Speaker 1: it was. In retrospect, after you have an experience that
Speaker 1: you can pretty much attribute without having a full on
Speaker 1: visual of one of these things, attribute to bigfoot or sasquatch.
Speaker 1: I definitely want to get into that. But before we
Speaker 1: get into that, would you mind just taking us back
Speaker 1: to where you were, what you were doing, and what
Speaker 1: happened during your first encounter with these things.
Speaker 2: The retrospect, I now realized that may not have been
Speaker 2: my first time. But like I said, I think when
Speaker 2: it comes to the woods, I think it happens because
Speaker 2: we're ignorant of the woods. We're ignorant of what's going
Speaker 2: on out there. When you retrospect, you weren't out there
Speaker 2: looking for that. You were looking for something else, so
Speaker 2: your mind is focused on it, so you have the
Speaker 2: ignorance of the forest and your focuses elsewhere. And it
Speaker 2: is until retrospect you realize. Oh Man. In two thousand
Speaker 2: and five, I had reconnected with a buddy of mine
Speaker 2: that I was stationed with in the military. He had
Speaker 2: happened to be living in West Palm Beach, so we
Speaker 2: were in contact with each other. He was a hunter too,
Speaker 2: so through talking and shooting a breeze, we decided to
Speaker 2: go hunting that season. It was getting close to the season,
Speaker 2: but late summer. He invited me to go to this
Speaker 2: one area, so we planned it and everything. I drove there.
Speaker 2: It's only a hour and a half maybe two hour
Speaker 2: drive from me. I drive to his house. This is
Speaker 2: where things got messed up because I get there. We
Speaker 2: had this all planned out. I drove two hours. I
Speaker 2: get there. He can't go. I tell people all the time,
Speaker 2: I don't remember why. He ended up having to go
Speaker 2: to work or his wife had something for him to do,
Speaker 2: so one of the other I can't remember. He couldn't go,
Speaker 2: So pulled out a map, and remember laid the map
Speaker 2: out on my truck and we're sitting here talking. He says, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: you passed this area on the way here, so if
Speaker 2: you want to check it out on your way back,
Speaker 2: then we'll figure it out from there. At that point,
Speaker 2: I was an ad deer, so I was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: time in the woods. I'm all about it. I remember
Speaker 2: the area he was talking about. It's a huge area,
Speaker 2: very huge now that I know, it's around ninety thousand acres.
Speaker 2: I get out there, I find the entrance. It's just
Speaker 2: a long gravel road, just that shell rock, that white
Speaker 2: gravel road. I'm almost single lan, very wide. You could
Speaker 2: probably fit two vehicles that it'd be tight. So I
Speaker 2: started cruising down that road, and I went down it
Speaker 2: for a long time. I'm like, man, when does this
Speaker 2: thing end? Type feeling. So as I'm driving slow because
Speaker 2: I'm looking out the window for any prints and I'm
Speaker 2: looking at the woods and stuff like that, I find
Speaker 2: this really big trailhead like maybe it used to be
Speaker 2: an old fire break or something like that. It was
Speaker 2: pretty wide, maybe truck quits. You could drive a truck
Speaker 2: down it not worry about rubbing the sides. It was
Speaker 2: a good trail. So I pulled off the side of
Speaker 2: the road, got out and started walking down this road.
Speaker 2: Now my train of thought was I was just going
Speaker 2: to go out there and look for screeps, rubs, prints,
Speaker 2: stuff like that. Let me know maybe this is a
Speaker 2: viable area of for hunting that season. So I didn't
Speaker 2: take anything. I didn't have a side arm on me,
Speaker 2: I didn't have my backpack, I didn't have water. I
Speaker 2: just was going to walk around for a little bit
Speaker 2: and come back. So I go down this trailhead for
Speaker 2: I estimate probably about a half a mile. It starts
Speaker 2: to narrow, it gets a little bit more woody because
Speaker 2: it's further back. I'm pretty sure nobody's went back during
Speaker 2: a long time. But as I'm walking, I noticed this
Speaker 2: bird where like four wheelers, when they take sharp turns,
Speaker 2: they start building up that berm motorcycles and stuff like that,
Speaker 2: dirt bikes. It looked like that, but it wasn't that
Speaker 2: because there was no trails. There was no motorcycles or
Speaker 2: nothing like that. It just looked like that. So I
Speaker 2: thought I would climb up to the top of it,
Speaker 2: which is only about four feet. But it's Florida. Everything flats,
Speaker 2: so four feet is better than no feet. I climb
Speaker 2: up to the top of this berm to get a
Speaker 2: better look of the area. I did have my binknockers.
Speaker 2: I'm glasting and stuff like that. I look down and
Speaker 2: there's this perfect deer trail right below me. I'm like,
Speaker 2: oh man, I'm gonna follow this deer trail. So I
Speaker 2: climb down the backside of that thing. I start walking
Speaker 2: this deer trail, and it's going through a pine forest.
Speaker 2: As I'm walking through this pine forest, I get to
Speaker 2: an open field where the pine forest stops, and I
Speaker 2: come through the pine forest, there's nothing but a palmeto field. Okay,
Speaker 2: and all the palmetos about waist high, some I'm a
Speaker 2: little higher, some lower, but probably average about waist time.
Speaker 2: It's only about one hundred yards across this field. It
Speaker 2: had sporadic trees, but it wasn't a forest. Then the
Speaker 2: forest started again on the other side of this open area.
Speaker 2: The trail ended there, so evidently the deer we're going
Speaker 2: through that palmetto field. I started going that direction. With palmettos,
Speaker 2: you gotta wind around them. You can't walk through them.
Speaker 2: You gotta wind around them and zigzag and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: So the whole time I'm looking down at the grap
Speaker 2: That's what I'm focused at. I'm not focused ahead of me.
Speaker 2: My mind already says as one hundred yards away this field. Now,
Speaker 2: because that burn was about a half a mile out,
Speaker 2: I'm probably another I followed that deer chop probably another
Speaker 2: half mile when I got to this field, so I'm
Speaker 2: about a mile back give her day quarter mile maybe,
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's been a long time, but I
Speaker 2: was pretty far back there. I'm looking down looking for
Speaker 2: prints in the sand and stuff like that. Not focus
Speaker 2: on anything else at all. Dad kind of in daydream,
Speaker 2: beautiful day, just enjoying myself as I'm walking as as
Speaker 2: I could blink, as fast as I could take a breath.
Speaker 2: It was just amazingly fast. It wasn't prolonged, but it
Speaker 2: was just like a whit. It was just yell. And
Speaker 2: it scared me so bad because I'm sitting there looking
Speaker 2: down the ground, and all of a sudden I felt
Speaker 2: it in my lungs. I felt it my spine, I
Speaker 2: felt it my kidneys, I just felt the inside of
Speaker 2: my body for that moment, just vibreak. It was that
Speaker 2: powerful of a blast of yell. I can't say it
Speaker 2: was a scream or how it was a yell. It
Speaker 2: was like wob just in your face. Literally felt like
Speaker 2: it was that post. As soon as it yelled, my
Speaker 2: head popped up and I turned around, all in one motion,
Speaker 2: turned around. I knew I needed to get out of there.
Speaker 2: It wasn't like it scared me and I looked around.
Speaker 2: What was that? It was like instant fear. I was petrified.
Speaker 2: It was instant leap leave now. So I turned around
Speaker 2: and I started heading back out. And when that happened,
Speaker 2: I was about halfway in that field, probably about fifty
Speaker 2: yards into it. Now I'm heading back to the pine
Speaker 2: forest I just left, and I'm not following the trail anymore.
Speaker 2: I am bee lining it straight back. Whatever's gonna get
Speaker 2: me to my truck fastard. That's direction I'm going. I
Speaker 2: am now stepping over palmettos, I'm pushing trees apark. I'm
Speaker 2: not zigzag. I'm going as quickly as I can, straight ahead.
Speaker 2: I need to get out of here. The whole time,
Speaker 2: I'm telling myself. I remember this conversation in my head
Speaker 2: with myself because it's so imprinted. I was telling myself,
Speaker 2: don't run, just keep moving, do not turn around, do
Speaker 2: not make eye contact, just walk as a deer hun
Speaker 2: already come across bear in the banthers. You don't run
Speaker 2: because now you become prey. Now you become a toy.
Speaker 2: Now they want to chase you. So my mind was
Speaker 2: already programmed, don't run, just keep going forward. So as
Speaker 2: I'm going, working my way out, I hear what I
Speaker 2: describe it as at my five o'clock and at my
Speaker 2: seven o'clock it sounded like san being dropped on the ground,
Speaker 2: just that dull thud. It wasn't loud, it was just
Speaker 2: you felt it. It was just that low thud. We've
Speaker 2: all done saying bags and passed them to the ground,
Speaker 2: just that dull thud. I was hearing it to my right.
Speaker 2: I was nearing it to my left. Refuse to turn
Speaker 2: around to see what was behind me. I just kept walking,
Speaker 2: got into the back into the pine forest. Like I said,
Speaker 2: I'm pushing things aside. I'm just getting out. I just
Speaker 2: want to get out. At some point, I just remember,
Speaker 2: I don't hear that thud anymore. Like maybe they stopped
Speaker 2: and didn't enter the pine forest. They just stopped at
Speaker 2: the edge of the field. I refuse to turn around
Speaker 2: and look, I get all the way back to the
Speaker 2: gravel road as a straight line. I get to the
Speaker 2: road and I see my truck, probably around two hundred
Speaker 2: yards or so to my right hand side. That's when
Speaker 2: I started picking up pace, because now that truck gave
Speaker 2: me a sense of I'm okay, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So I didn't run, but I picked up pace a lot.
Speaker 2: So I got my truck, turned it around and left.
Speaker 2: I probably did fifty five miles per hour on that
Speaker 2: little gravel road that I barely could do twenty miles
Speaker 2: per hour going in because it just shifts and stuff.
Speaker 2: And I got out of there and I drove all
Speaker 2: the way home. Never ever spoke to my buddy again.
Speaker 2: I didn't call him again. I didn't hurt his balls.
Speaker 2: I did not want to have to explain myself on
Speaker 2: why I was not going out there ever again. Just
Speaker 2: done not hunting, sold my guns, hunting rifles, and gave
Speaker 2: away hunting gear and tree stands. I was just done.
Speaker 2: I was not going to have anything to do with it.
Speaker 2: So that was the one that got me. That was
Speaker 2: the one that is embedded. I've had encounters since that
Speaker 2: are really to me or great encounters, but that one,
Speaker 2: because it was the first one, it was the one
Speaker 2: that broke me. So that one's always been the one
Speaker 2: that's been everlasting. That's the one that got me to
Speaker 2: where I'm at today, because, like I said, I gave
Speaker 2: up hunting, didn't do anything after that, but I started reaching.
Speaker 2: I started doing that armchair guy. What does the internet say?
Speaker 2: What does this guy say? I'd go to library and
Speaker 2: look up books. I was constantly informing myself as much
Speaker 2: information as I could, because I truly walked out or
Speaker 2: going that had to been a bigfoot. I knew after
Speaker 2: that incident what I had dealt with without seeing it,
Speaker 2: I just knew this was not norm that yell. I've
Speaker 2: told people they'd describe, what does the yell sound like?
Speaker 2: It was so loud. I tell them all the time,
Speaker 2: it's like being at the movie theater with Dolbis around
Speaker 2: sound and they cranked that volume all the way up
Speaker 2: and you got King Kong or Godzilla or something like
Speaker 2: that yelling. It was just that loud, overwhelming the senses.
Speaker 2: That's why when people talk about infosound, I do believe
Speaker 2: in infacoun Lions, abot, elephants, abbot and all is that
Speaker 2: it does paralyze you. It does for it's made to
Speaker 2: do that. It's not supernatural. It's a physical thing. It
Speaker 2: projects this. It's to rattle you for a moment, because
Speaker 2: it only takes that one moment that you pause and
Speaker 2: you become dinner. I believe in that facund. I think
Speaker 2: that's a very viable thing because I felt it. I
Speaker 2: felt whatever it was, it made a difference. So that
Speaker 2: was that incident.
Speaker 1: It ran out of the woods from hunting. Obviously, you said, yeah,
Speaker 1: I immediately thought this has got to be a bigfoot.
Speaker 1: How long did it take you from that incident before
Speaker 1: you actually got out and started doing field research to
Speaker 1: try to find more answers about what you had experienced.
Speaker 2: Well, like I said, it started with the regular internet,
Speaker 2: And the internet was early back then, two thousand and five, six, seven,
Speaker 2: eight nine, I think what Facebook came out in what
Speaker 2: two thousand and nine or something like that, So it
Speaker 2: was all new. The information was there, but you had
Speaker 2: to dig for it. It wasn't plentiful like it is today.
Speaker 2: Even though a lot of the stuff that running into
Speaker 2: today is not good information. It wasn't until I think
Speaker 2: it was twenty sixteen, was probably when finally I started
Speaker 2: going in the woods for different reasons, never hunting again.
Speaker 2: I gave up ONNY as far as serious, It's like,
Speaker 2: I'm going to do this. I'm now not going to
Speaker 2: be this armchair guy. I'm not going to continue to
Speaker 2: read misinformation on the internet. I'm now going to go
Speaker 2: out there, create experiences, create my own data. I want
Speaker 2: to find information that happened just prior to COVID. Then
Speaker 2: I had met Carrie onom through the research you'd come
Speaker 2: across podcasts and stuff like that. He was a huge
Speaker 2: podcast So I started watching a show and it was
Speaker 2: very interesting. I like some of the encounters and stuff.
Speaker 2: I found some similarities and stuff. Then they started planning
Speaker 2: at the one sixty eight one night on the show,
Speaker 2: Carrie was like, if anybody's interested in participating or whatever
Speaker 2: with some kind of thing like that, But he basically
Speaker 2: said email. I got home that night, I emailed him
Speaker 2: and said, look, if you're coming to Florida, this is
Speaker 2: where you need to go. I sent him a screenshot
Speaker 2: basically a circle and stuff of what area I was
Speaker 2: talking about.
Speaker 1: Stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see. We'll be
Speaker 1: right back after these messages.
Speaker 2: So I sent the email A probably wasn't five minutes
Speaker 2: and I get a response and he was like, can
Speaker 2: I call you? I say, carry Arnold, absolutely, So I
Speaker 2: give him my numbers and as soon as I can
Speaker 2: get send, my phone was haranging it and as soon
Speaker 2: as he got that message, he would calling me. The
Speaker 2: first thing out of his mouth was, Hey, this is Carrie.
Speaker 2: How are you doing? How do you know about that place?
Speaker 2: So then I went into that encounter and I said,
Speaker 2: this is what happened to me out there. I truly
Speaker 2: believe what happened was probably a skunky a sasquatch. To me,
Speaker 2: they're the same thing. That's when he said, that's where
Speaker 2: we're filming the one sixty eight. But all came together,
Speaker 2: so we ended up talking back and forth. At that time,
Speaker 2: I was doing some executive protection work in Fort Lauderdale,
Speaker 2: so there's a lot of nights I was up late
Speaker 2: in a patrol cars doing stuff. We would talk. He'd
Speaker 2: call me because he worked late into oil fields, need
Speaker 2: a call. We talked for a couple hours, or if
Speaker 2: he was driving back from Texas, he'd had somebody to
Speaker 2: talk to you on the road. We in bided me
Speaker 2: and said, hey, look, I want you to come to
Speaker 2: the one sixty eight. I had to turn him down.
Speaker 2: It was such short notice, taking a week off camping
Speaker 2: and all this stuff. I said, look, dude, I'd love it,
Speaker 2: trust me, I'd love it. I just can't get the
Speaker 2: time off of work right now. But I'll be there
Speaker 2: if you need anything like supplies, water, whatever. He did
Speaker 2: the one sixty eight and all that, and then he
Speaker 2: started coming to Florida on a regular basis, at least
Speaker 2: once a month. Once every six weeks he was meeting
Speaker 2: up with his friend. He would give us a call
Speaker 2: and say, hey, we're coming down there. Would you guys
Speaker 2: want to meet us out there? Of course, every time
Speaker 2: we did, we'd go out there and do an overnight
Speaker 2: investigation stuff like that. It was great to meet him
Speaker 2: and spend time in the woods with him. We got
Speaker 2: to go out there quite a few times with him
Speaker 2: because he gives spend quite a bit of time in Florida.
Speaker 2: We got to spend his last birthday with him, do
Speaker 2: a live show with him, and retrospect that. I look
Speaker 2: back on that and it's just sad. It's tragic that
Speaker 2: we lost me. When I was talking to him I
Speaker 2: had created a list, and I won't go through the
Speaker 2: names of the list, but I had to listen names.
Speaker 2: Through my process of learning people and watching and stuff,
Speaker 2: I had to listen names of kind of a wish
Speaker 2: list of these are the guys I want to meet. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, of course, carry On who was number one.
Speaker 2: Always wanted to meet Carroll, so I got to do that.
Speaker 2: One of those names on that list at that time
Speaker 2: was Jimmy Barr, only because of all the information that
Speaker 2: was coming out of the one sixty eight about his
Speaker 2: work ethic and he spent more time in the woods
Speaker 2: than anybody else. When everybody came back to eat, they
Speaker 2: were like, where's Jimmy, They said, he's still out there.
Speaker 2: So I liked that. I thought I would like to
Speaker 2: meet Jimmy Barr. Souff like that. So Carrie's like, he
Speaker 2: lives in Florida, he goes, I can make that happen.
Speaker 2: So a long story short, me and Jimmy did connect.
Speaker 2: He ended up only living two counties away from me,
Speaker 2: started going out with him and Mike. We were going
Speaker 2: out pretty regular. Then one day they're like, hey, we
Speaker 2: want to make you a full member. You're out here
Speaker 2: you're doing it. So that's how I got into being
Speaker 2: on a team. Since then, I pretty much go out
Speaker 2: every single weekend ever since then. So we're going on
Speaker 2: over two years now as a team. Literally every weekend
Speaker 2: I'm out there at some point other than bad weather
Speaker 2: or something like that.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the next time you had an experience
Speaker 1: with one of these things. Tell us what happened during
Speaker 1: that experience.
Speaker 2: But started with all the little things. There was a
Speaker 2: time we were out in that same area where the
Speaker 2: one sixty eight was. I had an antiday, were heard
Speaker 2: rock clacking. It was like really fast, like you took
Speaker 2: two rocks are really rapidly hit on. And it was
Speaker 2: always little things like you could explain it. What was that?
Speaker 2: Me single, don't have kids. Holidays is the best time
Speaker 2: for me to get out and camp because there's nobody around.
Speaker 2: So I started doing this thing where mostly it was
Speaker 2: Thanksgiving and Christmas. I would always go camping. A couple
Speaker 2: of years ago, on Christmas, I decided to go camping
Speaker 2: for three days because everybody's at Grandma's house. I go
Speaker 2: to this one location. It's not that same location we
Speaker 2: had been going to this different location. What made it
Speaker 2: different was. It was in Florida. It was twenty nine degrees,
Speaker 2: which is unheard of in South Florida, and we do
Speaker 2: get cold weather, but twenty nine degrees is pretty intense
Speaker 2: cold weather. There was nobody out there. Nobody in Florida
Speaker 2: was a camp in cold weather like that stuff. So
Speaker 2: it was really nice. It was perfect the first day
Speaker 2: I got out there on Friday, nothing out of the ordinary.
Speaker 2: All day it was nice and quiet, went on a
Speaker 2: few hikes. Then the next day, that morning, I get
Speaker 2: up really early and said, I'm going to take a
Speaker 2: height and then come back and eat breakfast. So I
Speaker 2: started going down this trail. I went down it for
Speaker 2: a while, at least a half hour forty five minute walk,
Speaker 2: but you can take up a lot of ground if
Speaker 2: you're walking on stop for that length of time. I
Speaker 2: got to this one spot where there was a little
Speaker 2: bit of a water source on my right, a water
Speaker 2: source on my left, not big. Each water hole was
Speaker 2: about the size of a queen's size. Bay. I don't
Speaker 2: usually do this. I don't do Knox and I don't
Speaker 2: do calls. So I said, I'm going to do a
Speaker 2: call see if I get anything. So I'm standing right
Speaker 2: there so I leaned at that time more of a
Speaker 2: primate thing, so I did as loud as I could.
Speaker 2: So I waited there for a few minutes, waiting nothing.
Speaker 2: So I decided to continue walking. So I walked for
Speaker 2: another half hour or so. I've started to get hungry.
Speaker 2: I'm getting tired. I said, I'm gonna head back and
Speaker 2: back to the camp. I'm walking back ended up back
Speaker 2: of that same spot, because this has the two water
Speaker 2: spots pretty clear. Where I knew where I was at.
Speaker 2: In the middle of that trail was a palmetto frond,
Speaker 2: freshly green, ripped right out of palmetto in placed right
Speaker 2: there in the mail of the trail. It was not
Speaker 2: there when I came by the first time. I tell
Speaker 2: people all the time, if you're not from Florida, palmeto
Speaker 2: fronds are extremely strong. Okay, I'm five point ten, two
Speaker 2: hundred and fifteen pounds. I cannot pull one of these
Speaker 2: things out of the ground. I had a guy with
Speaker 2: me one time. It was a lot bigger than me.
Speaker 2: He was probably around six foot sixty one. He weighed
Speaker 2: to forty five. He could not pull one of these
Speaker 2: things out of the ground. They're very strong. But here's
Speaker 2: this one. It looked like the end of it had exploded,
Speaker 2: like boom, it just ripped out. It was laying in
Speaker 2: the mail of the trail. So I documented it, took
Speaker 2: some photograph stuff like that. I don't know. It was weird.
Speaker 2: So I go back to camp, cook myself some hot
Speaker 2: dogs for breakfast. The rest of the day was uneventful.
Speaker 2: Then I go to bed. Like a researcher, I make mistakes.
Speaker 2: I've gotten better. You learn from your mistakes. I've learned
Speaker 2: now that you record all the time, you gotta have
Speaker 2: something run in all the time. Back then, I didn't
Speaker 2: into the night was the end of the night. I
Speaker 2: need to save battery power. I need to save my
Speaker 2: charging power. So I'm going to shut everything off and
Speaker 2: go to bed. So I go to bed. I don't
Speaker 2: know what time it was, but it felt levenish or
Speaker 2: something like that. Twelve ish. I've heard this scream. It
Speaker 2: was just very weird scream. I couldn't never could re
Speaker 2: enact it. It was just this weird scream and it
Speaker 2: only happened one time. It was just very loud scream.
Speaker 2: Woke me up. I sat there. At that point, I
Speaker 2: did turn a recorder and just never did it again,
Speaker 2: so I shut a recorder off and went back to sleep.
Speaker 2: Now is a open tent where its windows three hundred
Speaker 2: and sixty from eighteen inches up all the way to
Speaker 2: the top, so all you get to do is sit
Speaker 2: up and you can see three hundred and sixty degrees.
Speaker 2: That's why I purchased that debt, because it was twenty
Speaker 2: nine degrees out. I had the fly so everything was
Speaker 2: covered because I needed to keep the cold air out,
Speaker 2: the breeze and stuff like that. I'm sleeping, I'm a
Speaker 2: pretty light sleeper. I've heard something rubbing my tent, so
Speaker 2: I wake up. I slowly roll over. I'm laying there
Speaker 2: looking up at the top of the tent. I can
Speaker 2: hear it on the roof of my tent. Something walking
Speaker 2: around my tent, rubbing. It's arm, just going it's hand
Speaker 2: down or whatever down the move to the debt. I'm
Speaker 2: sitting there listening to it, and it would work its
Speaker 2: way all the way across to my head, then all
Speaker 2: the way back to my feet. Anxiety is going low. Okay,
Speaker 2: something going on here. So I reach down and I
Speaker 2: get my phone, and I got this huge flash let,
Speaker 2: this one right here. I got my flashlight. I got
Speaker 2: my phone ready to record, and I got my fingers
Speaker 2: on the zipper and I'm and I creeping. I'm just
Speaker 2: slowly edging my way as close as I can through
Speaker 2: the door so I could jump out. I'm listening to say,
Speaker 2: still rubbing the end of my tent. Then it gets quiet.
Speaker 2: I don't hear anything. Then I hear my cooler get
Speaker 2: picked up, and it's sloshing like somebody's walking with it.
Speaker 2: And you hear the stuff shifting back and forth with
Speaker 2: the ice and everything shifting back and forth. That's what
Speaker 2: got me really going, because that's all the food and
Speaker 2: water I had. Everything the last the next three days
Speaker 2: was in that cooler. Now, I sound a huge cooler,
Speaker 2: but it's a big enough cooler. That's what freaked me. Outside.
Speaker 2: Unzip the tent, I jump out. There's nothing there. There's
Speaker 2: just nothing there, and the cooler is about twenty twenty
Speaker 2: five feet away from my tent. That noise, because it
Speaker 2: makes noise opening up a tent, and that process that
Speaker 2: opened up the tad. They saying drop the cooler and
Speaker 2: was gone. Remember it's twenty nine degrees. I'm not dressed.
Speaker 2: I was dressed for sleeping I was not dressed for
Speaker 2: walking around in twenty nine degree temperature. So I'm walking
Speaker 2: around with this flashlight skinning woods, walking around my tent,
Speaker 2: skinning the woods, and then that fear hit me again.
Speaker 2: I better look up because I can't find anything. I'm
Speaker 2: thinking maybe this thing went upward. So now I'm scanning
Speaker 2: the trees. Never did see anything. I grabbed the cooler.
Speaker 2: I put it in my truck on the floorboard and
Speaker 2: shutting locked the truck. Of course, sleeping was not easy
Speaker 2: after that, but I finally found some time all asleep
Speaker 2: the next day. Though. When I did get out, I
Speaker 2: walked around to see if I can find prints or anything,
Speaker 2: but the substrate was so hard, the leaf litter was
Speaker 2: so bad. It's going to be very difficult to find
Speaker 2: any prints. To this day. I still had that cooler
Speaker 2: and there's large scratch like where the handle is on
Speaker 2: one side. I don't know if the thumb scratched it
Speaker 2: or whatever, but there was a huge scratch going right
Speaker 2: down the side of this cooler. I had to narrow
Speaker 2: it down because I know it wasn't raccoons. Because the
Speaker 2: cooler was just way too heavy. I had ten pound
Speaker 2: bag of ice in it six pack of soda, water,
Speaker 2: hot dogs, condiments. So what are we looking at? Twenty
Speaker 2: pounds maybe a little more. That's too heavy for a raccoon.
Speaker 2: Pick it up and walk it twenty feet twenty five feet.
Speaker 2: If it was a bear, I think they would have
Speaker 2: just ripped it open. I don't see them giving it
Speaker 2: up that easy. I think he would have ran off
Speaker 2: with it. I don't know. It's one of those things
Speaker 2: where whatever was tall enough that it touched the roof
Speaker 2: of my tent. It walked from one end to the other,
Speaker 2: touching the roof of my tent. That was in December,
Speaker 2: because that was Christmas. I went back in February, got
Speaker 2: the exact same spot that everything up the exact same way.
Speaker 2: This time I brought my dog with me. Never taken
Speaker 2: my dog out in the woods with me. He was
Speaker 2: a wonderful, sweet dog, quiet, wonderful dog. But taking it
Speaker 2: out there, everything was great. He was acting perfect as normal.
Speaker 2: We go to bed. I think this was the second
Speaker 2: night I brought his bed so he felt comfortable sleeping
Speaker 2: in the tent. So he is at my foot now
Speaker 2: this time it's February. It's not twenty nine degrees out,
Speaker 2: so I don't have to fly on I can see everything.
Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, I have a picture in
Speaker 2: my phone where I'm laying in bed. I took a
Speaker 2: picture straight up looking out and you can see the
Speaker 2: sky with the trees criss crossing. I just thought it
Speaker 2: looked really nice, So it gives you an idea. That night,
Speaker 2: I'm sleeping and I get woken up by my dog growling.
Speaker 2: And my dog is never barked. He doesn't bark at anything,
Speaker 2: he doesn't growl. It doesn't have an aggressive bone in
Speaker 2: his body. He's just a sweet dog. But all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, he's got this low growl. So I wake
Speaker 2: up because it shocked me. Why here's my dog growling.
Speaker 2: And I look down at my feet where he's at,
Speaker 2: and he's staring at the window right here to my left. Now,
Speaker 2: this window is close enough that I can touch it.
Speaker 2: Tans aren't what they say they were. I can touch
Speaker 2: this window right here. I'm watching him and he's just saddy,
Speaker 2: just will not take his eyes off that window. So
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, get the nerve up. So I stood up.
Speaker 2: So now it's like face level, I can just turn
Speaker 2: my head and look at that window. So when I
Speaker 2: do that and I turn and look, there is something
Speaker 2: right outside that window looking and I don't know what
Speaker 2: it is. I can see it at nighttime if somebody's
Speaker 2: walking down your driveway, you can tell somebody walking down
Speaker 2: your driveway, but you can't tell who it is. You
Speaker 2: don't know who it is. But I couldn't tell no
Speaker 2: features because it was just it was dark. Of course,
Speaker 2: you got the screen of the tent, which kind of
Speaker 2: messes things up as well. I'm looking at this thing.
Speaker 2: We're staring at each other. Whatever it is, it's looking
Speaker 2: at me and I'm looking at it. So I'm sitting
Speaker 2: and I'm moving my head trying to get a better view,
Speaker 2: and I'm moving around looking at it. This thing did
Speaker 2: not move. It just rock solid, just stared at it.
Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, get my handy torch here, and
Speaker 2: I got my phone ready. I'm about to blast this
Speaker 2: thing in the face and I'm about to see what
Speaker 2: is this look? That was my mistake. I knew it's
Speaker 2: different with the blind on, but I didn't know you
Speaker 2: get in the same effect with the screens that once
Speaker 2: you hit that flashlight, you can't see out that tent.
Speaker 2: It just lamed right back in your face. So as
Speaker 2: soon as I hit that flashlight, whatever it was shoved
Speaker 2: my tent, just shoved the bottom of the tent because
Speaker 2: about I don't know, eighteen inches of the tent is
Speaker 2: solid around the bottom. That all pushed in. My dog
Speaker 2: jumps in the air, lands in my lap. I start
Speaker 2: grabbing stuff, I get out of the tent, and again,
Speaker 2: whatever it was, by the time I can get my
Speaker 2: dogs out and get out of the tent, it was gone.
Speaker 2: To this day, I don't know what it was. I
Speaker 2: have no idea what it was, but I got the
Speaker 2: feeling that whatever was squatty, like picture the gargoyles on
Speaker 2: Notre Dame. How the squatting gave me that sense that
Speaker 2: whatever was squatting down and just sitting here watching me.
Speaker 2: Non aggressive or both the incidents were non aggressive. It
Speaker 2: was more like curiosity. But definitely the one that left
Speaker 2: a lasting impression.
Speaker 1: One of the things I think I ask you guys
Speaker 1: on the round table that we had down at the
Speaker 1: Great Florida Bigfoot Conference was what kind of evidence are
Speaker 1: you finding in the woods, whether it be tree breaks,
Speaker 1: are you guys hearing wood knocks? You've talked a little
Speaker 1: bit about the vocalizations that you're hearing. But let's talk
Speaker 1: a little bit about footprints. Are you able to take
Speaker 1: cast and the substraight down there? And are you hearing
Speaker 1: wood knocks and finding tree breaks. That's one of the
Speaker 1: things that has fascinated me about the subject is it
Speaker 1: seems like no matter where you go, and Florida seems
Speaker 1: to be a little bit different than most other places
Speaker 1: that I've been as far as Sasquatch is concerned. Talk
Speaker 1: a little bit about what kind of physical evidence you
Speaker 1: guys are finding there.
Speaker 2: We run the whole litmus of everything we do find prints,
Speaker 2: Especially this year, I found a couple of good wins.
Speaker 2: Bobby and Jimmy have cast it to Prince At the
Speaker 2: Bigfoot conference. We had those at our table so people
Speaker 2: can look at those different sizes too. There was fifteen
Speaker 2: inch and smaller and stuff like that. We find structures
Speaker 2: with me criteria. When it comes to structures, I'm not
Speaker 2: big on crosses. Just not big on crosses. I tell
Speaker 2: people all the time, when two sticks fall, it's gonna
Speaker 2: form a T n X or an L. It's just
Speaker 2: always going to form those positions unless there's something else
Speaker 2: to it that makes me go, wait a minute, that's weird.
Speaker 2: Then I pretty much don't pay excess. But arches. I
Speaker 2: find some really extravagant arches. I've got some pictures of
Speaker 2: some that are just blow my mind to this day.
Speaker 2: I look at it like, Wow, that's just amazing that
Speaker 2: this twenty foot tall pine tree is bent over. I'm
Speaker 2: not talking way over, it bent directly over, like it's
Speaker 2: a horseshoe, and the end of it is shoved into
Speaker 2: the ground. That's all that's holding it itself, shoved into
Speaker 2: the ground. I don't find a lot as in a
Speaker 2: structure like I know and other stage sell find tps
Speaker 2: different things like that. But I found some things that
Speaker 2: look like in a a natural blind that easily something
Speaker 2: can get inside of and you'd walk right past them
Speaker 2: and never see them. They're interesting. I found one one
Speaker 2: time with Jimmy and I crawled inside of it. When
Speaker 2: I got into it, it was like an igloo. I
Speaker 2: could do jumping Jackson this thing, but yet it was
Speaker 2: there like an igloo had a small opening that I
Speaker 2: could easily fit through my hands and knees, but when
Speaker 2: I got inside, I could stand up In the middle.
Speaker 2: There was a hole probably the size of a cup,
Speaker 2: and there was a stick in it, size of a
Speaker 2: number two pencil, Like something was digging with this stick.
Speaker 2: That was interesting because you would think you'd have to
Speaker 2: have a thune or something to hold on to, something
Speaker 2: to dig or whatever. I don't know any animals in
Speaker 2: Florida that would use a stick for anything. But then
Speaker 2: later on we went to another location and I found
Speaker 2: the same thing. There were out in the middle of
Speaker 2: nowhere there was a hole and there was a stick
Speaker 2: out the size of a number two pencil, probably about
Speaker 2: twelve to fifteen inches long, in a hole, like something
Speaker 2: was digging. I have said there's pictures to Randy Harrington
Speaker 2: because he had posted one time about these small sticks
Speaker 2: that he was finding in holes and stuff like that,
Speaker 2: and I was like, oh, wow, me too, here's somebody
Speaker 2: else that's running into the same thing. So I hit
Speaker 2: him up and I seen him at pictures and he agreed.
Speaker 2: He came back and said, it's our belief or theory
Speaker 2: that it's juveniles. They're either entertaining themselves or maybe looking
Speaker 2: for grubs or something like that. I don't know, but
Speaker 2: it's usually in structures or a different errors like that,
Speaker 2: where they're been left by the parents, so I don't know,
Speaker 2: very interesting.
Speaker 1: As soon as you said the sticks in the holes
Speaker 1: inside the structure, I literally wrote down Shane Carpenter because
Speaker 1: that's one of the things that Shane and Randy and
Speaker 1: I talked about. I had him on separately on the
Speaker 1: show in the past. I think Shane was the first
Speaker 1: person to mention it to me that were finding these
Speaker 1: in the four hundred, and he really hadn't talked a
Speaker 1: lot about it because it took them a couple of
Speaker 1: years to document a ton of these things. He didn't
Speaker 1: want to put it out there immediately and say, hey,
Speaker 1: we're finding these things. He and Randy both wanted to
Speaker 1: do a little bit more research. I found it fascinating
Speaker 1: because I'd never heard anybody talk about that. It's one
Speaker 1: of the things I love about this show man is
Speaker 1: talking to so many people. That's the beauty of podcasts,
Speaker 1: the ability to talk to people in so many different places.
Speaker 1: You put all this data together, you find that over
Speaker 1: and over again, they're finding this in the four hundred,
Speaker 1: you're finding it in Florida. I'm sure there are probably
Speaker 1: people around the country that are finding these holes and
Speaker 1: sticks in them. And they don't know what to make
Speaker 1: of it because they may have not heard anybody else
Speaker 1: talk about it. I think it's fascinating that you're finding
Speaker 1: that in Florida and the four hundred. I think maybe
Speaker 1: I talked to Shane Corson or Amy Bou or somebody
Speaker 1: maybe in the area of the Olympics out in the
Speaker 1: Olympic Project that had found similar things and they didn't
Speaker 1: know what to make of it.
Speaker 2: That was a couple of years ago. We started finding
Speaker 2: these small sticks, but I had found larger sticks, I say,
Speaker 2: the size of a broomstick shoved straight now into the ground.
Speaker 2: Now again, like I said, I'm two hundred and fifteen pounds.
Speaker 2: And I took a stick and leaned on it with
Speaker 2: all my weight and it fell over. I could not
Speaker 2: get it ast the leaf litter, and the leaf litter
Speaker 2: is probably about three inches deep before you actually got
Speaker 2: sub straight. This was in the sub straight. I don't
Speaker 2: know how it got that way, and I've documented that
Speaker 2: a few times. Then I went back, let's say a
Speaker 2: month or two later, I want to check on this stick.
Speaker 2: Because I try not to disturb anything, I leave it alone.
Speaker 2: I came back right beside it another one. What are
Speaker 2: the chances of two sticks? So there's bigger ones as well,
Speaker 2: but it's the little ones that really got me going.
Speaker 2: Like I said when I touched space with Randy that
Speaker 2: we had some similarities. I'm a true believer on the
Speaker 2: Skuckgate route table. I made it very obvious on where
Speaker 2: I stand. To me, there could be some differences between
Speaker 2: the Florida skunk Gate and the Bigfoot of the Northwest
Speaker 2: or whatever, but I don't think it's very many. As
Speaker 2: far as I think there's more similarities than are differences.
Speaker 2: I think they're all the same speed. It's on Caucasian
Speaker 2: and you have a Chinese guy. There's differences in US,
Speaker 2: but there's a lot of similarities.
Speaker 1: And stay tuned for more Sasquatch out to see. We'll
Speaker 1: be right back after these messages.
Speaker 2: And I think that's what it is with quote the
Speaker 2: skunk gape. People think, because we use the term eight
Speaker 2: that the skunk gape is some kind of primate, something
Speaker 2: that escaped or whatever. It's a bigfoot, it's a sasquatch.
Speaker 2: The sidings that we have here, these things get up
Speaker 2: there six seven eight feet tall, covered in hair, leave
Speaker 2: you large footprints sixteen inch eighteen inch. I've had some
Speaker 2: researchers here playing they found twenty three inch footprints, So
Speaker 2: they're big. They're here, they're big, and they're the same thing.
Speaker 2: I think the changes are habitat is different. They have
Speaker 2: to adjust to the heat here. I don't care what
Speaker 2: you are. When you come to Florida or the South
Speaker 2: in general, you got to deal with a different heat
Speaker 2: than you would in the Pacific Northwest. So you're gonna
Speaker 2: make changes on habitat. So I think habitat might need
Speaker 2: a change. We'll go into different areas to look for
Speaker 2: them because of the habitat versus being out in the mountains,
Speaker 2: in the woods and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm glad you mentioned that. That's one of the things.
Speaker 1: I think we talked about it on the Skuncake Brown table.
Speaker 1: I've talked to people like David Soddi in the past
Speaker 1: who claimed very much like you, that they're very similar
Speaker 1: to all the bigfoot sasquatch throughout the continental United States
Speaker 1: in the Pacific Northwest, people have seen these things eight
Speaker 1: nine ten feet tall in some cases. A lot of
Speaker 1: times you hear them described as being smaller in Florida.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that there would be that much difference. Obviously,
Speaker 1: the closer you get to the equator, Bergmann's law tells
Speaker 1: you that the things are going to get a little
Speaker 1: bit smaller. Florida is definitely closer to the equator than
Speaker 1: say Canada, for example. As far as those differences are concerned,
Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought that up one of the things
Speaker 1: that's been on my mind. Because I am a skeptic.
Speaker 1: I've made no qualms about that I haven't seen one
Speaker 1: of these creature. I certainly want to believe that they're real.
Speaker 1: I certainly believe the people who say they have encountered something,
Speaker 1: but I haven't seen one, so I can't be one
Speaker 1: hundred percent. So let me ask you this. As far
Speaker 1: as let's say some of the differences in the temperature,
Speaker 1: twenty nine degrees is way out of the norm for
Speaker 1: South Florida, but there are places like Minnesota that get
Speaker 1: forty below We've had conversations about if you dropped a
Speaker 1: silverback gorilla in Minnesota and it got forty below zero,
Speaker 1: the silver backs dead right. It's a great ep very
Speaker 1: similar I think to what I believe that sasquatch is.
Speaker 1: Should they exist, How do you think they cope with that.
Speaker 1: People have had all kinds of things that we've talked about.
Speaker 1: Do you think they're using caves? Doug Hicheck, when he
Speaker 1: was on the roundtable, said, I think they use peat
Speaker 1: bogs to stay warm. How do you think they deal with,
Speaker 1: let's say the extreme heat. I know you have humidity
Speaker 1: in Florida. We deal with it here in North Carolina
Speaker 1: where I'm at Georgia, certainly the humidity is different hundred
Speaker 1: eight degrees, and say somewhere like Las Vegas, you get
Speaker 1: one hundred and eight degrees in Florida, You're probably going
Speaker 1: to be miserable and or die if you don't take
Speaker 1: some precautions. So how do you think these things as
Speaker 1: a species deal with that extreme heat and humidity in
Speaker 1: Florida and say somewhere like Minnesota where it maybe forty below.
Speaker 1: How do you think they deal with that as a species.
Speaker 2: On one part, what you said earlier about the skepticism,
Speaker 2: everybody needs to come in with some level of skepticism.
Speaker 2: Skepticism creates questions, and as researchers and investigators, we have
Speaker 2: to find questions. So people say that all the time
Speaker 2: that well, I'm skeptic. That's great because that needs you
Speaker 2: have questions. And when you have questions, that means you
Speaker 2: want to find answers. When you want to find answers,
Speaker 2: that means you're going to go out there and you're
Speaker 2: going to look. So I have no issue with skepticism.
Speaker 2: I'm a true knower that this thing absolutely just had
Speaker 2: too much evidence. Some of this thing does not exist.
Speaker 2: But I still go in it with skepticism because that's
Speaker 2: what creates questions. Anybody says that I don't want to
Speaker 2: ever getting on Brian Barn's it's coptic. Brian asked questions,
Speaker 2: you want answers. As far as the skunk gate and
Speaker 2: dealing with it the weather, I think they've adapted. They've
Speaker 2: been here a long time. I have brothers that never
Speaker 2: grew up in Florida. They grew up in Chicago. I'm
Speaker 2: born and raised right here. I'm living in the town
Speaker 2: that I was born. This is where I went to
Speaker 2: high school, this is where I grew up. I still
Speaker 2: live in the same town. So they'll ask, dude, how
Speaker 2: do you do it? Man, we come down to visit,
Speaker 2: we can't even breathe. Floridians know how to deal with
Speaker 2: it because one, we don't wear black shirts in the outside.
Speaker 2: We wear tank tops and flip flops. We drink lots
Speaker 2: of fluid, and we never stand in the sun. We
Speaker 2: stand under an awning, we stand under a tree. We
Speaker 2: find shade to make it taller. I think sasquatch is
Speaker 2: the same thing. It's going to move into areas where
Speaker 2: the temperature is just a little bit different. If you
Speaker 2: can find an area where a stream is dried up
Speaker 2: because of the heat, it's still cooler. Once you go
Speaker 2: down the bank and get into that stream. Area two Florida,
Speaker 2: you don't have to dig very deep to get moisture. Okay,
Speaker 2: we have a very shallow water table here. That's why
Speaker 2: we have sinkholes. Everybody sees the sink holes and Ford
Speaker 2: has because when that water drives up, it leaves these
Speaker 2: air pockets and the earth flapses. So if they wanted
Speaker 2: to dig a hole just a couple of feet deep
Speaker 2: and lay in it, they're gonna cool down. Hogs do
Speaker 2: it every day. I think at some point they will
Speaker 2: find a water source. That's where they're gonna stay for
Speaker 2: a while. They're gonna be near water. Everything is gonna
Speaker 2: be near water. At this time of the year it
Speaker 2: is so unbarely hot. That's where I go. I find
Speaker 2: areas where I know I have a water source because
Speaker 2: deer all the animals are gonna be utilizing that water
Speaker 2: source because of the heat. I think that's what they do.
Speaker 2: I think it's just they'll adapt. I said it my
Speaker 2: last video last week. I'm walking and I point at
Speaker 2: this base of this tree where it's just shaded, and
Speaker 2: I was dying, this is hot. I said, I had
Speaker 2: to change trails because that trail looks more shady than
Speaker 2: the trail. I was on why about camera at this tree,
Speaker 2: and I was like, I was a Sasquatch, That's where
Speaker 2: I'd be laying right now because it's pretty shady right there.
Speaker 2: That's what we do. I'm pretty sure that's what he does,
Speaker 2: is takes advantage of opportunity, shady areas and river beds
Speaker 2: and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: We were going back and forth way before we did
Speaker 1: the Great Florida Bigfoot Conference, and we see eye to
Speaker 1: eye on a lot of things. I know there's some
Speaker 1: things that bug you just like it does me. In
Speaker 1: the community, Wayne and I started an entire new podcast
Speaker 1: called That Bigfoot Podcast to talk about the shit that
Speaker 1: pisses us off about Bigfoot. I know there's some things
Speaker 1: that have come up recently. We've talked about it on
Speaker 1: the show in the past. I have some issues with
Speaker 1: a lot of the evidence that people present out there.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of things going around that I'm just
Speaker 1: not one hundred percent convinced about. The Sierra Sound comes
Speaker 1: to mind. That's one of the things you and I've
Speaker 1: talked about privately. Let's talk a little bit about that,
Speaker 1: because I'll be honest with you. I've met Ron multiple times.
Speaker 1: I've had him on the show multiple times. I've got
Speaker 1: all of his books. I have some issues with the
Speaker 1: Sierra Sounds, and I think people have over the years
Speaker 1: tended to see that as one of the biggest pieces
Speaker 1: of evidence. It's almost up there with the Patterson Gimblin film,
Speaker 1: the free footage, and some of the other stuff that
Speaker 1: we've seen. I have some issues with it.
Speaker 2: I know you have science face books.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so let's talk a little bit about some of
Speaker 1: the issues that you have with the Sierra Sounds and
Speaker 1: maybe even some of the other evidences out there.
Speaker 2: I think I'm about to hear some egos. I might
Speaker 2: see my subscriber down and go down. But I go
Speaker 2: into things logical. It's got to make sense. When I
Speaker 2: listened to the Sierra sounds, there's little things that bother me.
Speaker 2: We have over fifty years of research in this field.
Speaker 2: There's been a lot of vocals that have been recorded. Now, granted,
Speaker 2: I think a lot of them are coyotes or wolves.
Speaker 2: I saw this documentary and this guy had studied these
Speaker 2: well and said, they have almost one hundred different vocalizations.
Speaker 2: They've got vocalizations we've never even heard. They have the
Speaker 2: capability of making all these different vocalizations. So all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, you got to understand, dude, I'd never heard
Speaker 2: that before. It doesn't mean it's not a wolf or cayun.
Speaker 2: He's just making a sound that you haven't heard before.
Speaker 2: But there are some out there that you go wow,
Speaker 2: like the Ohio howse and stuff like that. But when
Speaker 2: it comes to the c Era sounds, this is what
Speaker 2: gets me is this. The research has been goun on
Speaker 2: for over fifty years, and nobody has recorded that. Just him.
Speaker 2: He's the only one that recorded that. He's the only
Speaker 2: one who's got those vocalizations. Now we use it as
Speaker 2: a litmus test. You hear it all the time in
Speaker 2: people's stories that I'm not hearing it in recordings. But
Speaker 2: people say, storage, oh, it sounded like the share sounds.
Speaker 2: It sounded like samurai chatter. It just becomes the common
Speaker 2: norm to say that. But when we look at fifty
Speaker 2: years of recordings, we think all these creatures are similar,
Speaker 2: They're all the same things, fame, species, whatever. But yet
Speaker 2: he's the only one that has caught that specific sound.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, Okay, that's strange to me that we
Speaker 2: haven't recorded that again. You should be able to repeat
Speaker 2: that down the road. Somebody else would have gotten it,
Speaker 2: but we don't. But then it's so clear, it's like
Speaker 2: the thing is talking into the microphone. It's so clear,
Speaker 2: and you're talking nineteen seventy two. The equipment that we
Speaker 2: used back then, it's recorded cassetts. It's not that clear.
Speaker 2: And distance, it doesn't pick up distance that far. I
Speaker 2: have a digital recorder, I can I can catch a
Speaker 2: mosquito farting from a mile away, But I sure guarantee
Speaker 2: you the equipment that I've got in nineteen seventy two
Speaker 2: is not going to pick up sounds one hundred yards away.
Speaker 2: That easy yet these sounds are so clear, so loud.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, wait a minute, that doesn't seem right
Speaker 2: for the equipment for that fine period.
Speaker 1: Two.
Speaker 2: This is where I blow the metaphysical people in the water.
Speaker 2: I say this. Everybody knows I'm not saying something new.
Speaker 2: Everybody knows I am not into anything supernatural with sasquatch
Speaker 2: at all. Period ortals orbs, mind speed, none of that
Speaker 2: is a living, breathing creature. It's a biological entity that
Speaker 2: we're looking for. But yet we're told so much that
Speaker 2: this thing likes to hide, it likes to be unknown,
Speaker 2: But yet it's yelling and having conversations with other sasquatch
Speaker 2: around them. It doesn't make a lot of sense that
Speaker 2: this thing is vocalizing like that when it's trying to
Speaker 2: be quiet, it's trying to be hidden. It doesn't want
Speaker 2: to be seen. It wants to observe you, but not
Speaker 2: be known. But yet this thing is having this great conversation.
Speaker 2: When you get vocals that we have now, like the
Speaker 2: Ohio how's and different things like that, it's always from
Speaker 2: a distance that's expected because they don't know you're right there.
Speaker 2: It's not till they get closer but every time sasquatch,
Speaker 2: he's closer, he gets quieter. You ever notice that you
Speaker 2: don't get an ohio how outside of your camping tent.
Speaker 2: It's always a distance because I think they're the reason
Speaker 2: for that. But here sounds, it's not like that. I
Speaker 2: started looking into it, like, man, it's something's not making
Speaker 2: sense here. Then he had the naval linguist that did
Speaker 2: this research in depth, deep dive into these recordings. He says,
Speaker 2: there's a language, and there's this, and this, and there's
Speaker 2: multiple and they're talking back and board and all this.
Speaker 2: Here's where I have an issue with that. I'm prior, Naty.
Speaker 2: The linguists on ship do not decipher languages. They only
Speaker 2: do the languages that they're trained in. If it was
Speaker 2: in French and he knew French, he could say, Okay,
Speaker 2: this is what's going on. Or if it was Chinese,
Speaker 2: talk about a language that's unknown. So he does this
Speaker 2: deep breakdown on this thing, but he's never periodewed it.
Speaker 2: He's never taken it and given it to another linguist
Speaker 2: to do a deep dive on. If he comes up
Speaker 2: with the same answer, That's what a peer review is about.
Speaker 2: If I find something I just did one not too
Speaker 2: long ago, where a guy has his footprint, there's a
Speaker 2: group of us looking at his footprint, each giving us
Speaker 2: their perspective. It's a peer review. He's never done that.
Speaker 2: This linguist, this naval linguist, has never relinquished all his
Speaker 2: data to another linguist or a group of linguists or
Speaker 2: university and that specialized as a linguist to analyze this
Speaker 2: information to see what they come up. So there's a
Speaker 2: lot of unanswered questions when it comes to the Sierra Sounds,
Speaker 2: a lot of unanswered questions that I'm not going to
Speaker 2: sit here and say one way or another how I
Speaker 2: personally feel about Zara's sounds. But what I am going
Speaker 2: to say is answer these questions. It would go a
Speaker 2: long way in understanding more. So that's my issue with that.
Speaker 2: That's where I stand on the Sierra Sounds. I met
Speaker 2: him last year, tried to talk to him about it.
Speaker 2: Got shut down. He's not going to discuss it. He's
Speaker 2: got handlers that will say, oh, he's busy right now,
Speaker 2: you're gonna have to move along, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: but he's on to something else. But I got his
Speaker 2: recording he sells the cassette, and I don't know if
Speaker 2: you ever listened. It's Jonathan Frakes from Star Trek. He
Speaker 2: narrates it, and there's jazz music through the whole thing.
Speaker 2: Why would you do that. I'm trying to listen to
Speaker 2: the sounds up with this other stupid stuff. But that
Speaker 2: was poor planning. Right there, a freak copy of the
Speaker 2: sious sounds. I'll be more than happy to mell it
Speaker 2: to you. If you like jazz music, you'll love it.
Speaker 2: Or if you're a Jonathan Frake's friend. I think that's
Speaker 2: his name, Jonath Frakes. You can see his picture on
Speaker 2: the back. He narrates it. It took him a while,
Speaker 2: he befriended him and stuff like that. It took some
Speaker 2: time to day in Bye. It did him out there,
Speaker 2: and you went out there and had this down. Where
Speaker 2: are these other guys? I would love to talk to
Speaker 2: these other guys. I'd love to see their interviews. I'd
Speaker 2: love to see what they had to say about what
Speaker 2: took place up there while Ron was up there. But
Speaker 2: we don't hear from those other guys. I'm only getting
Speaker 2: one narrative and I want more. That's all I'm asking
Speaker 2: that's all I've ever had, answer these questions and give
Speaker 2: me more information so I can base my opinion on
Speaker 2: what's going on.
Speaker 1: I definitely think that's fair. I have some of the
Speaker 1: very same questions that you have about it. I have
Speaker 1: a problem with the proximity of the sounds and how
Speaker 1: close they sound to the microphone, the fact that very few,
Speaker 1: if any recordings. I know there's been some recordings in
Speaker 1: the past. I don't think they've been published, but Brian
Speaker 1: Brown and some of those folks, some of the former
Speaker 1: members of the NAWAC, the North American Wood Ape Conservancy
Speaker 1: out in Area X, have recorded what they believe to
Speaker 1: be sounds that are very similar to the Sierra sounds.
Speaker 1: Some of these quote unquote samurai chatter. I've looked on
Speaker 1: the NAWAC. I'm actually putting together a special I've got
Speaker 1: about six hours of audio that they've recorded from Area
Speaker 1: X interviews and experiences, then I'm going to put out
Speaker 1: here in the next month or so. I've never heard
Speaker 1: anything that sounds like what we hear on the Sierra Sands.
Speaker 1: The only time I, frankly ever heard that was up
Speaker 1: in Radium, BC, and I shared this with you. I
Speaker 1: heard it personally with my own ears. It was probably
Speaker 1: less than a second, but it sounded like a kind
Speaker 1: of like a samurai chatter sound. But you're right, we
Speaker 1: don't hear that in the recordings that people produce over
Speaker 1: the last fifty plus years that these things were recorded,
Speaker 1: So I definitely had some of the same issues.
Speaker 2: Prints are consistent, structures are consistent, sightings are consistent, but
Speaker 2: that sound isn't.
Speaker 1: Don't quote me on this. I would have to go
Speaker 1: back and reach out to Cliff and ask him. We've
Speaker 1: never had a conversation specifically about it. I don't know
Speaker 1: if it was Cliff and or maybe Jeff Meldrum that
Speaker 1: have examined the cast from the footprints that were allegedly
Speaker 1: recovered from the Sierra Camp. I know I've heard people
Speaker 1: that have had issue with those. They don't exactly consider
Speaker 1: them to be authentic. Don't quote me on that, but
Speaker 1: I've definitely heard that out there. So there's a lot
Speaker 1: of questions around that, And again, it's one of those
Speaker 1: things that it's hard to prove a negative. It's very
Speaker 1: difficult to prove that something is hoaxed, specifically when it
Speaker 1: comes to Bigfoot. That's the issue that I've had with
Speaker 1: people like Todd Standing and even ridiculous things like sasquatch Ontario.
Speaker 1: Some of the shit that he's put forward, it's almost impossible.
Speaker 1: Even though this Dwayne guy has come out and clearly
Speaker 1: said I'm the one doing this voice, and people still
Speaker 1: believe that what Mike Patterson is putting forward is the gospel. See.
Speaker 2: That's the problem is there are so many people that
Speaker 2: are invested in the big Foot phenomenon. As far as
Speaker 2: you're either an investigator, researcher, an armchair guy, or you
Speaker 2: like to watch television programs, a lot of people invested
Speaker 2: in it. I can tomorrow come up with a hoax
Speaker 2: if I wanted to, and I'm going to pull a
Speaker 2: lot of subscribers off that because that's what's happening, because
Speaker 2: there is an entertainment value there. That's the part that
Speaker 2: I tell people all the time. Don't go after these
Speaker 2: negative guys. You can state your opinion on their stuff,
Speaker 2: but don't personally go out and say, hey, unsubscribed to
Speaker 2: this guy, you're wasting your time. Because the drama sells
Speaker 2: for one and two. It's an entertainment purposes A prime example,
Speaker 2: and I don't mind putting his name out there because
Speaker 2: he puts his own name on it. Sonny Vader has
Speaker 2: all these videos that people are like, holy criminal, Look
Speaker 2: that's amazing. Now here's the thing is, I'm not gonna
Speaker 2: say Sonny Vader's hope because he's never claimed anything. He
Speaker 2: has never once verbally claimed anything. But he's putting it
Speaker 2: out there and he's sitting back smiling. He's watching people argue,
Speaker 2: he's watching people praise it. It's entertainment. That's always just entertainment,
Speaker 2: and people are entertained every time I knew Sonny Vader
Speaker 2: thing comes out and I'm like, that's interesting. But I
Speaker 2: can spot a Sunny Vader video in a heartbeat. It's
Speaker 2: all fake, but he has an entertainment value. You watch
Speaker 2: Finding Bigfoot, we met Renee. I never knew Renee Hall
Speaker 2: was going to be that nice of a person. We
Speaker 2: watch Finding Bigfoot and for what entertainment purposes? For one
Speaker 2: hour that night, we're entertained. But were they coming out
Speaker 2: with evidence, Were they coming out with this or coming
Speaker 2: out with that. No, But it's entertainment. That's why I
Speaker 2: stand on that. But there's another side of it. These
Speaker 2: are the guys light out hoaxing, not just hoaxing, but claiming.
Speaker 2: In fact, they want to claim the title of investigator
Speaker 2: or research. That's where I draw the line. That's where
Speaker 2: I have a problem, because those are the people that
Speaker 2: are muddying the waters. I know, Brian on a daily basis,
Speaker 2: how much bullshit you have to go through to find
Speaker 2: good stuff, to find a legitimate researcher. That's finding legitimate evidence,
Speaker 2: because you've got people like this throwing stupid stuff out there.
Speaker 2: Blop squatch. Listen. I tell people I'm the most honest
Speaker 2: person you ever meet. I'm an honest guy. Okay, I
Speaker 2: get told all the time, dude, I subscribe to your
Speaker 2: channel because you're just honest about it. You just tell
Speaker 2: it like it is, and I'm gonna tell you like
Speaker 2: it is. You can watch all my videos and a
Speaker 2: lot of times I come out of the witch with nothing,
Speaker 2: absolutely nothing. But I don't plain nothing if it's nothing there.
Speaker 2: I take people along for the ride. I say, hey, look,
Speaker 2: going into woods to day, We're gonna be looking for
Speaker 2: sasquatch stuff. Come on, let's go. Hey, come with me.
Speaker 2: Then watch my videos. Enjoy the scenery, enjoy the being
Speaker 2: outdoors and seeing Florida the way I see Florida. And
Speaker 2: if we find something, you're there with me. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: document it. Then we're moving on to the next thing.
Speaker 2: No blopsquatches. Watch whoever on my channel. There's no blopsquatches
Speaker 2: on the Facebook page, and.
Speaker 1: Stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see. We'll be
Speaker 1: right back after these messages.
Speaker 2: I personally go through the Facebook every day. We desk
Speaker 2: stuff out. There's no place for it. I don't know
Speaker 2: how many times I've seen a lopsquatch. Then when you
Speaker 2: see the original photo, it's that big they zoomed in
Speaker 2: on a leaf that big, or a root of a
Speaker 2: tree that big they zoom in, so you're seeing it
Speaker 2: like this, or it's a sasquatch. There's people putting hoaxes
Speaker 2: out there, and I'm done with that part. If I
Speaker 2: think your stuff at bull crap, I'm going to tell
Speaker 2: you it's bullcrap.
Speaker 1: Be Leary.
Speaker 2: Two things. Anybody that tells you they're an expert in
Speaker 2: this field, be Leary, that is a red flag because
Speaker 2: they're telling you they're the leading authority and you should
Speaker 2: only be listening to them, and they have all the
Speaker 2: answers nobody has all the answers. There are so many
Speaker 2: unanswered questions about this thing. There is no experts, period,
Speaker 2: So don't listen to anybody once they say I'm the expert.
Speaker 2: There are no experts. Okay, Second red flag. Anybody that
Speaker 2: goes out there every single week and they capture this
Speaker 2: thing on film every week. They got a picture of
Speaker 2: this thing every week. All look what I got this time.
Speaker 2: It's impossible, Right, I've spent two hundred and fifty hours
Speaker 2: or more a year in the woods. People think it's
Speaker 2: a lot. It's really not a lot. What eight thousand
Speaker 2: hours in a year and I've only spent a two
Speaker 2: hundred viegas. But basically, I'm out there every weekend. Then
Speaker 2: I'm looking at three maybe four camp outs per year.
Speaker 2: But I'm out there all the time, and I'm not
Speaker 2: getting something every weekend, and I'm in some pretty good
Speaker 2: Bible areas. But yet these people, they can go out
Speaker 2: there and it's always a picture from the video. Show
Speaker 2: us the video, Show me the video. Everybody knows me.
Speaker 2: If you watch my channel, it's all video. My goal
Speaker 2: is to catch this thing in motion, not a picture.
Speaker 2: Pictures are done, Pictures are over with stop throwing pictures
Speaker 2: out there. Ci AI that ended Pictures that ended it.
Speaker 2: Video ain't great either, but it's better than a picture.
Speaker 2: But if you can get something in motion moving bipedal
Speaker 2: least it can be analyzed better, like the Patterson Gimblin
Speaker 2: film or the Freeman footage, those two films. I'm all
Speaker 2: in on long time, I was borderline on I'm all
Speaker 2: in on PG, always been all in on the Freeman footage.
Speaker 2: So at ten second video of this thing walking bipedle
Speaker 2: gives you a lot of information. Jeff Mildrim was able
Speaker 2: to get a lot of information just off the PG
Speaker 2: stel that convince me that thing is real. Forget pictures.
Speaker 2: If you come to me, if there I got a picture, okay,
Speaker 2: I'll look at it. But all right, pictures are fake
Speaker 2: too much.
Speaker 1: Now we've mentioned it a couple of time. Let's talk
Speaker 1: about your YouTube channel. Let's talk about the BFFG. Where
Speaker 1: can people find your stuff? Talk a little bit about
Speaker 1: what the BFFG is and how you get involved with them.
Speaker 2: It was actually founded by Jimmy Barr and Bobby White.
Speaker 2: Then they brought in Mike Blez and myself, so there's
Speaker 2: four of us on this team. Now. Granted, people see
Speaker 2: me a lot on the channel. It's only because I
Speaker 2: have more free time than the other guys that I
Speaker 2: can get out there a whole lot more. But if
Speaker 2: you go through the videos, there are times we are together.
Speaker 2: I film everybody, so everybody gets seen and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: But if the matter of it's just I can get
Speaker 2: out quite frequently. I don't have any restrictions in my
Speaker 2: life right now. But the YouTube channel is BFFG Bigfoot Research.
Speaker 2: The Facebook page, we actually had two Facebook pages. I
Speaker 2: would just assume people just join boats because it's hard
Speaker 2: to explain why you should go to this one and
Speaker 2: not this one. But one is more you can post
Speaker 2: and you can do stuff. The other one is just
Speaker 2: that's all you can do. Is because well, we originally
Speaker 2: did it, he was realized he made some mistakes, so
Speaker 2: we had to redo it instead of fixing the mistake
Speaker 2: and just created another page. So now it's more interactive
Speaker 2: and you could post things. Everything has to be approved
Speaker 2: by admins period, there's no bull crap. Don't try to
Speaker 2: sell T shirts on the page because we're not going
Speaker 2: to allow T shirts being sold. If I approve you,
Speaker 2: that means I'm giving my stamp of approval and I'm
Speaker 2: not going.
Speaker 3: To do that.
Speaker 2: Bigfoot four shots for the Facebook page. The YouTube channel
Speaker 2: is BFFG Bigfoot Research. It's a small channel. Like I said,
Speaker 2: it's real simple. I get out there once a week.
Speaker 2: I spend four or five hours out in the woods.
Speaker 2: You like editing and stuff like that. If I can
Speaker 2: edit it down to a thirty minute forty minute video,
Speaker 2: I try to. Because people's attention stands are not that great.
Speaker 2: They like the shorts, so I do a lot of shorts.
Speaker 2: But the shorts are like advertisement. I'm just showing you
Speaker 2: the woods. I'm showing you the surroundings, the beautiful nature
Speaker 2: that I get to enjoy every day. Then I add
Speaker 2: some music to it so it's enjoyable sixty seconds of enjoyment.
Speaker 2: But I really want people to watch the video. That's
Speaker 2: the actual me out there in the research. I've caught
Speaker 2: some great stuff in the past with things I don't know,
Speaker 2: just running through the woods like a steam roller or
Speaker 2: how that happened fifty yards from me. Because I'm very
Speaker 2: sensitive when I come to vocals because of my first encounter.
Speaker 2: The vocals are like my key bank. That's what really
Speaker 2: gets my blood going. That's the YouTube channel and the
Speaker 2: Facebook Paige. But if anybody who ever wants to talk
Speaker 2: or have an encounter, or just wants to discuss anything,
Speaker 2: they can reach us at BFFG Bigwoot Research at gmail
Speaker 2: dot com.
Speaker 1: Awesome you guys, let go check it out, Richard. As always, Man,
Speaker 1: have had a blast talking to you. It was good
Speaker 1: to hang out with you down in Florida. I'm already
Speaker 1: looking forward to next year and coming back down. I
Speaker 1: had a blast at that event. Thanks for coming on
Speaker 1: and sharing your stuff with us.
Speaker 2: Man, wasn't it fun? It was fun. I just enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: I came a couple of times, come over to your table,
Speaker 2: just shig, breeze. Man, oh Man, I was having a blast.
Speaker 2: When you're at a place where with light minded people,
Speaker 2: people all enjoying this subject, it's just a lot of fun.
Speaker 2: I met a lot of subscribers. I met a lot
Speaker 2: of new subscribers. I met a lot of people. You
Speaker 2: meet a lot of people. I've got your book. I
Speaker 2: bought your book. Yeah, I haven't got a chance to
Speaker 2: read it yet. Been busy ever since we got back,
Speaker 2: but I plan on it. It was a blast. It
Speaker 2: was my second year. I will definitely be out there
Speaker 2: next year.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, Yeah, I'm already looking forward.
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