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<v Speaker 1>Today, I want to tell you about a journey that

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<v Speaker 1>I've been on for most of my life. Ever since

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<v Speaker 1>wild men while spending time with my friends and family.

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<v Speaker 1>As I grew older and read more about the paranormal,

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<v Speaker 1>my interest in encryptids and other things strange only deepened.

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<v Speaker 1>So what are you waiting for visit www dot untold

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<v Speaker 1>radionetwork dot com today. Hey everybody, this is Left Striving Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I know aka Survivor Man, and you're listening to Brian

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<v Speaker 1>on sasquatch Otisen be there, Welcome back to Sasquatchis. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you so much for being with us for the show.

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<v Speaker 2>It is Friday.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you're having a fantastic week. We have an

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<v Speaker 1>amazing guest lined up for you. But as always, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to start in the place where I always do.

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<v Speaker 1>If you've had an encounter and you'd like to be

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<v Speaker 1>on the show, shoot me an email you and get

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<v Speaker 1>me a Brian at Paranormalworldproductions dot com. Get d over

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<v Speaker 1>to the website, check it out, become a member there

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<v Speaker 1>and help support the show. I got to sit down

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<v Speaker 1>and talk to Richard Ferriby, who is an investigator down

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<v Speaker 1>in Florida. He goes out looking for skunk ape. I

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<v Speaker 1>actually met him when I was doing the skunk Ape

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<v Speaker 1>round table at the Great Florida Bigfoot Conference back in

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<v Speaker 1>early June. We talked about him coming on the show

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<v Speaker 1>then and now Richard is here to share some of

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<v Speaker 1>his amazing experiences while out looking for a skunk ape

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<v Speaker 1>down in Florida. I think this is gonna be one

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<v Speaker 1>you guys really enjoy. I have talked about this over

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<v Speaker 1>the last couple of weeks, but I want to take

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<v Speaker 1>a second here and just encourage you to check out

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<v Speaker 1>some of the other shows that I do. In addition

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<v Speaker 1>to Sasquatch Odyssey, I host the show called That Bigfoot

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<v Speaker 1>Podcast over with Wayne, my co host. It is not

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<v Speaker 1>an encounter's based show. It is a conversation based show

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<v Speaker 1>where we get into all kinds of things Bigfoot related.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you guys would really enjoy it. Make sure

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<v Speaker 1>you check out Backwood's Horror Stories. We have some amazing

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<v Speaker 1>stories over there that I narrate on that channel. You

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<v Speaker 1>can check it out on YouTube. We have about fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>thousand subscribers over on YouTube at this point, and get

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<v Speaker 1>it anywhere you're listening to this podcast. All you got

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<v Speaker 1>to do is type in Backwoods Horror Stories and you'll see.

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<v Speaker 2>It right there.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know me, I like to make things easy

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<v Speaker 1>for you guys, So there is a button right here

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<v Speaker 1>in the show notes. All you got to do is

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<v Speaker 1>click it and check those shows out. We'd love to

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<v Speaker 2>But enough of that.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you guys are ready to get into it.

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<v Speaker 1>Richard's on the line, He's ready to go. All this

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<v Speaker 1>left for you to do is sit back, relax, and

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy the show. I want to welcome our guest to

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<v Speaker 2>It is Richard from Florida. Welcome to the show. Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>how's it going, man?

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<v Speaker 1>I am good and it's good to see you again.

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<v Speaker 1>We got to spend some time down at the Great

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<v Speaker 1>Florida Bigfoot Conference last month. Time flies when you're having fun.

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<v Speaker 1>To believe it was that long ago that you and

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<v Speaker 1>I were up on stage doing the skunk Ape Brown Table.

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<v Speaker 1>You were one of the amazing guests that I had

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<v Speaker 1>up there that do research down in Florida talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the skunk apes. We talked about doing this and here

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<v Speaker 1>we are. So let's get right into it. Before we

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<v Speaker 1>get into any of your experiences and some of the

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<v Speaker 1>research that you're doing down there in Florida, I start

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<v Speaker 1>in the same place with everybody. What guy you interested

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<v Speaker 1>in bigfoot, sasquatch and the skunk Ape.

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<v Speaker 2>To begin with, I think going back as a child,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, telling my age being born in nineteen sixty nine,

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<v Speaker 2>so I grew up in that seventies era where this

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<v Speaker 2>stuff as a child was coming out with the Patterson Gimland,

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<v Speaker 2>Boggy Creek, stuff like that. So I think as a

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<v Speaker 2>child it always drew interests, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>But not so much of an interest that I was

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<v Speaker 2>scared of monsters under the bed or was scared of

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<v Speaker 2>go in the woods at night. Living in Florida, I

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<v Speaker 2>live in the country. I don't live in the quote

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<v Speaker 2>beach areas of Florida or Disneyland or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I live in the country where it's a lot of land,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of four worst farmland and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 2>So being out the woods was just an everyday natural thing.

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<v Speaker 2>You ran around barefoot in the woods, which just you

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<v Speaker 2>just grew up as a kid and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was never on my radar. Never as a

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<v Speaker 2>child it was interesting. But even as a child, I

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<v Speaker 2>can distinguish television from real life. As I got older,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, you get to that age where your

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<v Speaker 2>uncles and fathers and stuff teach how to hunt and

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<v Speaker 2>give you a gun and stuff, you started spending more

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<v Speaker 2>time in the woods. So me and my siblings were

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<v Speaker 2>avid hunters, avid outdoorsmans. Then really into my late twenties

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<v Speaker 2>early thirties, really got into deer hunting. This is what

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<v Speaker 2>I want to do all the time, every season. I

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<v Speaker 2>was ready, had all the gear, all the money spent,

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<v Speaker 2>so spent a lot of time in the woods. They

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<v Speaker 2>put it was ever on that radar. Ever, it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>until later after I had an encounter that all the

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<v Speaker 2>things that I'd ran into in the past in the woods,

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<v Speaker 2>I started questioning it, you know. I mean, I can't

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<v Speaker 2>say what it was, but it made me scratch my head,

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<v Speaker 2>going what if all this time it was there and

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<v Speaker 2>I just didn't pay it any mind. But it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>until I had my encounter I gave up putting all together,

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<v Speaker 2>just gave it up. Never did that aspect of being

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<v Speaker 2>in the woods ever again. I just I was done

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<v Speaker 2>with it. I was fearful. I now had a healthy

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<v Speaker 2>fear of the forest. I realized that I'm not the alpha.

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<v Speaker 2>There are other things out there we're aware of, we're

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<v Speaker 2>not aware of. Of course, we'll were of bears and

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<v Speaker 2>panthers and stuff like that. But now I've got something

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<v Speaker 2>out there that I can't explain. So it gave me

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<v Speaker 2>that healthy fear for a very long time. It gave

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<v Speaker 2>me nightmares for a long time. It was all of

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<v Speaker 2>those things that happens in your life. It always comes

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<v Speaker 2>back at nighttime when you go to bed, that thought

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<v Speaker 2>of whatever that was in your life. It's constantly there.

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<v Speaker 2>And that was in two thousand and five when that happened.

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<v Speaker 2>Is an interesting story because now that I look back

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<v Speaker 2>on it, sometimes I sit there because carry Arnold was

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<v Speaker 2>a friend of mine, brought us together as friends. I've

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<v Speaker 2>been out in the field with him, researching with him.

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<v Speaker 2>Just an amazing guy. I'm thankful that this thing happened

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<v Speaker 2>to me and then years later I was able to

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<v Speaker 2>make that connection with him, because I would have never

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<v Speaker 2>got to know him as a person. I'm very grateful

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<v Speaker 2>for that.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to circle back to a couple of things

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<v Speaker 1>that you said there. I want to get into your

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<v Speaker 1>encounter and your experience. But that's one of the things

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<v Speaker 1>I've talked about on the show with so many people

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<v Speaker 1>so many times, is in retrospect, after you have an

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<v Speaker 1>encounter or an experience that you can definitely with as

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<v Speaker 1>much certainty as you can tie to an experience with

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<v Speaker 1>bigfoot or sasquatch people go back and look at all

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<v Speaker 1>the things that happened to them. I've done this to

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<v Speaker 1>myself so many times. I look back and talk about

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<v Speaker 1>experiences that I've had in the woods that could have

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<v Speaker 1>been it wasn't even on my radar at the time

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<v Speaker 1>that had happened. I think that happens to so many

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<v Speaker 1>people that have spent so much time in the woods,

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<v Speaker 1>these weird things that happened that you just write off

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<v Speaker 1>as nothing at the time, or oh, that was whatever

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<v Speaker 1>it was. In retrospect, after you have an experience that

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<v Speaker 1>you can pretty much attribute without having a full on

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<v Speaker 1>visual of one of these things, attribute to bigfoot or sasquatch.

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<v Speaker 1>I definitely want to get into that. But before we

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<v Speaker 1>get into that, would you mind just taking us back

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<v Speaker 1>to where you were, what you were doing, and what

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<v Speaker 1>happened during your first encounter with these things.

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<v Speaker 2>The retrospect, I now realized that may not have been

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<v Speaker 2>my first time. But like I said, I think when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to the woods, I think it happens because

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<v Speaker 2>we're ignorant of the woods. We're ignorant of what's going

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<v Speaker 2>on out there. When you retrospect, you weren't out there

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<v Speaker 2>looking for that. You were looking for something else, so

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<v Speaker 2>your mind is focused on it, so you have the

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<v Speaker 2>ignorance of the forest and your focuses elsewhere. And it

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<v Speaker 2>is until retrospect you realize. Oh Man. In two thousand

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<v Speaker 2>and five, I had reconnected with a buddy of mine

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<v Speaker 2>that I was stationed with in the military. He had

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<v Speaker 2>happened to be living in West Palm Beach, so we

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<v Speaker 2>were in contact with each other. He was a hunter too,

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<v Speaker 2>so through talking and shooting a breeze, we decided to

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<v Speaker 2>go hunting that season. It was getting close to the season,

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<v Speaker 2>but late summer. He invited me to go to this

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<v Speaker 2>one area, so we planned it and everything. I drove there.

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<v Speaker 2>It's only a hour and a half maybe two hour

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<v Speaker 2>where things got messed up because I get there. We

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<v Speaker 2>had this all planned out. I drove two hours. I

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<v Speaker 2>get there. He can't go. I tell people all the time,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't remember why. He ended up having to go

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<v Speaker 2>to work or his wife had something for him to do,

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<v Speaker 2>so one of the other I can't remember. He couldn't go,

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<v Speaker 2>So pulled out a map, and remember laid the map

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<v Speaker 2>out on my truck and we're sitting here talking. He says, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you passed this area on the way here, so if

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<v Speaker 2>you want to check it out on your way back,

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<v Speaker 2>then we'll figure it out from there. At that point,

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<v Speaker 2>I was an ad deer, so I was like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>time in the woods. I'm all about it. I remember

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<v Speaker 2>the area he was talking about. It's a huge area,

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<v Speaker 2>very huge now that I know, it's around ninety thousand acres.

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<v Speaker 2>I get out there, I find the entrance. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>a long gravel road, just that shell rock, that white

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<v Speaker 2>gravel road. I'm almost single lan, very wide. You could

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<v Speaker 2>probably fit two vehicles that it'd be tight. So I

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<v Speaker 2>started cruising down that road, and I went down it

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<v Speaker 2>for a long time. I'm like, man, when does this

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<v Speaker 2>thing end? Type feeling. So as I'm driving slow because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking out the window for any prints and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>down it not worry about rubbing the sides. It was

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<v Speaker 2>the road, got out and started walking down this road.

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<v Speaker 2>Now my train of thought was I was just going

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<v Speaker 2>viable area of for hunting that season. So I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>take anything. I didn't have a side arm on me,

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<v Speaker 2>a long time. But as I'm walking, I noticed this

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<v Speaker 2>dirt bikes. It looked like that, but it wasn't that

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<v Speaker 2>because there was no trails. There was no motorcycles or

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<v Speaker 2>nothing like that. It just looked like that. So I

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<v Speaker 2>which is only about four feet. But it's Florida. Everything flats,

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<v Speaker 2>so four feet is better than no feet. I climb

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<v Speaker 2>up to the top of this berm to get a

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<v Speaker 2>better look of the area. I did have my binknockers.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glasting and stuff like that. I look down and

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<v Speaker 2>there's this perfect deer trail right below me. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh man, I'm gonna follow this deer trail. So I

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<v Speaker 2>climb down the backside of that thing. I start walking

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<v Speaker 2>this deer trail, and it's going through a pine forest.

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<v Speaker 2>As I'm walking through this pine forest, I get to

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<v Speaker 2>an open field where the pine forest stops, and I

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<v Speaker 2>come through the pine forest, there's nothing but a palmeto field. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>and all the palmetos about waist high, some I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>little higher, some lower, but probably average about waist time.

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<v Speaker 2>It's only about one hundred yards across this field. It

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<v Speaker 2>had sporadic trees, but it wasn't a forest. Then the

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<v Speaker 2>forest started again on the other side of this open area.

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<v Speaker 2>The trail ended there, so evidently the deer we're going

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<v Speaker 2>through that palmetto field. I started going that direction. With palmettos,

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<v Speaker 2>you gotta wind around them. You can't walk through them.

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<v Speaker 2>You gotta wind around them and zigzag and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 2>So the whole time I'm looking down at the grap

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm focused at. I'm not focused ahead of me.

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<v Speaker 2>My mind already says as one hundred yards away this field. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>because that burn was about a half a mile out,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm probably another I followed that deer chop probably another

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<v Speaker 2>half mile when I got to this field, so I'm

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<v Speaker 2>about a mile back give her day quarter mile maybe,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. It's been a long time, but I

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<v Speaker 2>was pretty far back there. I'm looking down looking for

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<v Speaker 2>prints in the sand and stuff like that. Not focus

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<v Speaker 2>on anything else at all. Dad kind of in daydream,

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful day, just enjoying myself as I'm walking as as

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<v Speaker 2>I could blink, as fast as I could take a breath.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just amazingly fast. It wasn't prolonged, but it

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<v Speaker 2>was just like a whit. It was just yell. And

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<v Speaker 2>it scared me so bad because I'm sitting there looking

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<v Speaker 2>down the ground, and all of a sudden I felt

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<v Speaker 2>it in my lungs. I felt it my spine, I

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<v Speaker 2>felt it my kidneys, I just felt the inside of

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<v Speaker 2>my body for that moment, just vibreak. It was that

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<v Speaker 2>powerful of a blast of yell. I can't say it

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<v Speaker 2>was a scream or how it was a yell. It

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<v Speaker 2>was like wob just in your face. Literally felt like

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<v Speaker 2>it was that post. As soon as it yelled, my

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<v Speaker 2>head popped up and I turned around, all in one motion,

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<v Speaker 2>turned around. I knew I needed to get out of there.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't like it scared me and I looked around.

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<v Speaker 2>What was that? It was like instant fear. I was petrified.

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<v Speaker 2>It was instant leap leave now. So I turned around

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<v Speaker 2>and I started heading back out. And when that happened,

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<v Speaker 2>I was about halfway in that field, probably about fifty

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<v Speaker 2>yards into it. Now I'm heading back to the pine

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<v Speaker 2>forest I just left, and I'm not following the trail anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>I am bee lining it straight back. Whatever's gonna get

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<v Speaker 2>me to my truck fastard. That's direction I'm going. I

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<v Speaker 2>am now stepping over palmettos, I'm pushing trees apark. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not zigzag. I'm going as quickly as I can, straight ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>I need to get out of here. The whole time,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm telling myself. I remember this conversation in my head

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<v Speaker 2>with myself because it's so imprinted. I was telling myself,

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<v Speaker 2>don't run, just keep moving, do not turn around, do

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<v Speaker 2>not make eye contact, just walk as a deer hun

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<v Speaker 2>already come across bear in the banthers. You don't run

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<v Speaker 2>because now you become prey. Now you become a toy.

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<v Speaker 2>Now they want to chase you. So my mind was

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<v Speaker 2>already programmed, don't run, just keep going forward. So as

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going, working my way out, I hear what I

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<v Speaker 2>describe it as at my five o'clock and at my

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<v Speaker 2>seven o'clock it sounded like san being dropped on the ground,

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<v Speaker 2>just that dull thud. It wasn't loud, it was just

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<v Speaker 2>you felt it. It was just that low thud. We've

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<v Speaker 2>all done saying bags and passed them to the ground,

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<v Speaker 2>just that dull thud. I was hearing it to my right.

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<v Speaker 2>I was nearing it to my left. Refuse to turn

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<v Speaker 2>around to see what was behind me. I just kept walking,

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<v Speaker 2>got into the back into the pine forest. Like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm pushing things aside. I'm just getting out. I just

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<v Speaker 2>want to get out. At some point, I just remember,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't hear that thud anymore. Like maybe they stopped

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<v Speaker 2>and didn't enter the pine forest. They just stopped at

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<v Speaker 2>the edge of the field. I refuse to turn around

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<v Speaker 2>and look, I get all the way back to the

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<v Speaker 2>gravel road as a straight line. I get to the

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<v Speaker 2>road and I see my truck, probably around two hundred

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<v Speaker 2>yards or so to my right hand side. That's when

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<v Speaker 2>I started picking up pace, because now that truck gave

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<v Speaker 2>me a sense of I'm okay, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>So I didn't run, but I picked up pace a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>So I got my truck, turned it around and left.

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<v Speaker 2>I probably did fifty five miles per hour on that

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<v Speaker 2>little gravel road that I barely could do twenty miles

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<v Speaker 2>per hour going in because it just shifts and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>And I got out of there and I drove all

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<v Speaker 2>the way home. Never ever spoke to my buddy again.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't call him again. I didn't hurt his balls.

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<v Speaker 2>I did not want to have to explain myself on

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<v Speaker 2>why I was not going out there ever again. Just

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<v Speaker 2>done not hunting, sold my guns, hunting rifles, and gave

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<v Speaker 2>away hunting gear and tree stands. I was just done.

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<v Speaker 2>I was not going to have anything to do with it.

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<v Speaker 2>So that was the one that got me. That was

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<v Speaker 2>the one that is embedded. I've had encounters since that

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<v Speaker 2>are really to me or great encounters, but that one,

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<v Speaker 2>because it was the first one, it was the one

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<v Speaker 2>that broke me. So that one's always been the one

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<v Speaker 2>that's been everlasting. That's the one that got me to

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<v Speaker 2>where I'm at today, because, like I said, I gave

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<v Speaker 2>up hunting, didn't do anything after that, but I started reaching.

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<v Speaker 2>I started doing that armchair guy. What does the internet say?

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<v Speaker 2>What does this guy say? I'd go to library and

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<v Speaker 2>look up books. I was constantly informing myself as much

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<v Speaker 2>information as I could, because I truly walked out or

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<v Speaker 2>going that had to been a bigfoot. I knew after

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<v Speaker 2>that incident what I had dealt with without seeing it,

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<v Speaker 2>I just knew this was not norm that yell. I've

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<v Speaker 2>told people they'd describe, what does the yell sound like?

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<v Speaker 2>It was so loud. I tell them all the time,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like being at the movie theater with Dolbis around

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<v Speaker 2>sound and they cranked that volume all the way up

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<v Speaker 2>and you got King Kong or Godzilla or something like

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<v Speaker 2>that yelling. It was just that loud, overwhelming the senses.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why when people talk about infosound, I do believe

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<v Speaker 2>in infacoun Lions, abot, elephants, abbot and all is that

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<v Speaker 2>it does paralyze you. It does for it's made to

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<v Speaker 2>do that. It's not supernatural. It's a physical thing. It

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<v Speaker 2>projects this. It's to rattle you for a moment, because

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<v Speaker 2>it only takes that one moment that you pause and

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<v Speaker 2>you become dinner. I believe in that facund. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's a very viable thing because I felt it. I

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<v Speaker 2>felt whatever it was, it made a difference. So that

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<v Speaker 2>was that incident.

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<v Speaker 1>It ran out of the woods from hunting. Obviously, you said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I immediately thought this has got to be a bigfoot.

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<v Speaker 1>How long did it take you from that incident before

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<v Speaker 1>you actually got out and started doing field research to

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<v Speaker 1>try to find more answers about what you had experienced.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, like I said, it started with the regular internet,

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<v Speaker 2>And the internet was early back then, two thousand and five, six, seven,

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<v Speaker 2>eight nine, I think what Facebook came out in what

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand and nine or something like that, So it

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<v Speaker 2>was all new. The information was there, but you had

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<v Speaker 2>to dig for it. It wasn't plentiful like it is today.

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<v Speaker 2>Even though a lot of the stuff that running into

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<v Speaker 2>today is not good information. It wasn't until I think

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<v Speaker 2>it was twenty sixteen, was probably when finally I started

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<v Speaker 2>going in the woods for different reasons, never hunting again.

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<v Speaker 2>I gave up ONNY as far as serious, It's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to do this. I'm now not going to

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<v Speaker 2>be this armchair guy. I'm not going to continue to

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<v Speaker 2>read misinformation on the internet. I'm now going to go

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<v Speaker 2>out there, create experiences, create my own data. I want

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<v Speaker 2>to find information that happened just prior to COVID. Then

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<v Speaker 2>I had met Carrie onom through the research you'd come

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<v Speaker 2>across podcasts and stuff like that. He was a huge

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<v Speaker 2>podcast So I started watching a show and it was

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<v Speaker 2>very interesting. I like some of the encounters and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I found some similarities and stuff. Then they started planning

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<v Speaker 2>at the one sixty eight one night on the show,

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<v Speaker 2>Carrie was like, if anybody's interested in participating or whatever

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<v Speaker 2>with some kind of thing like that, But he basically

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<v Speaker 2>said email. I got home that night, I emailed him

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<v Speaker 2>and said, look, if you're coming to Florida, this is

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<v Speaker 2>where you need to go. I sent him a screenshot

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<v Speaker 2>basically a circle and stuff of what area I was

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<v Speaker 2>talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>Stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see. We'll be

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<v Speaker 1>right back after these messages.

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<v Speaker 2>So I sent the email A probably wasn't five minutes

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<v Speaker 2>and I get a response and he was like, can

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<v Speaker 2>I call you? I say, carry Arnold, absolutely, So I

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<v Speaker 2>give him my numbers and as soon as I can

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<v Speaker 2>get send, my phone was haranging it and as soon

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<v Speaker 2>as he got that message, he would calling me. The

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<v Speaker 2>first thing out of his mouth was, Hey, this is Carrie.

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<v Speaker 2>How are you doing? How do you know about that place?

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<v Speaker 2>So then I went into that encounter and I said,

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<v Speaker 2>this is what happened to me out there. I truly

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<v Speaker 2>believe what happened was probably a skunky a sasquatch. To me,

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<v Speaker 2>they're the same thing. That's when he said, that's where

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<v Speaker 2>we're filming the one sixty eight. But all came together,

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<v Speaker 2>so we ended up talking back and forth. At that time,

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<v Speaker 2>I was doing some executive protection work in Fort Lauderdale,

417
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<v Speaker 2>so there's a lot of nights I was up late

418
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<v Speaker 2>in a patrol cars doing stuff. We would talk. He'd

419
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<v Speaker 2>call me because he worked late into oil fields, need

420
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<v Speaker 2>a call. We talked for a couple hours, or if

421
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<v Speaker 2>he was driving back from Texas, he'd had somebody to

422
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<v Speaker 2>talk to you on the road. We in bided me

423
00:21:06.920 --> 00:21:09.359
<v Speaker 2>and said, hey, look, I want you to come to

424
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<v Speaker 2>the one sixty eight. I had to turn him down.

425
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<v Speaker 2>It was such short notice, taking a week off camping

426
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<v Speaker 2>and all this stuff. I said, look, dude, I'd love it,

427
00:21:17.519 --> 00:21:19.799
<v Speaker 2>trust me, I'd love it. I just can't get the

428
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<v Speaker 2>time off of work right now. But I'll be there

429
00:21:22.480 --> 00:21:26.319
<v Speaker 2>if you need anything like supplies, water, whatever. He did

430
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<v Speaker 2>the one sixty eight and all that, and then he

431
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<v Speaker 2>started coming to Florida on a regular basis, at least

432
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<v Speaker 2>once a month. Once every six weeks he was meeting

433
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<v Speaker 2>up with his friend. He would give us a call

434
00:21:36.400 --> 00:21:39.480
<v Speaker 2>and say, hey, we're coming down there. Would you guys

435
00:21:40.119 --> 00:21:42.039
<v Speaker 2>want to meet us out there? Of course, every time

436
00:21:42.039 --> 00:21:44.440
<v Speaker 2>we did, we'd go out there and do an overnight

437
00:21:44.480 --> 00:21:47.279
<v Speaker 2>investigation stuff like that. It was great to meet him

438
00:21:47.319 --> 00:21:49.000
<v Speaker 2>and spend time in the woods with him. We got

439
00:21:49.000 --> 00:21:50.480
<v Speaker 2>to go out there quite a few times with him

440
00:21:50.480 --> 00:21:52.519
<v Speaker 2>because he gives spend quite a bit of time in Florida.

441
00:21:52.799 --> 00:21:54.839
<v Speaker 2>We got to spend his last birthday with him, do

442
00:21:54.920 --> 00:21:57.440
<v Speaker 2>a live show with him, and retrospect that. I look

443
00:21:57.519 --> 00:21:59.920
<v Speaker 2>back on that and it's just sad. It's tragic that

444
00:22:00.039 --> 00:22:02.920
<v Speaker 2>we lost me. When I was talking to him I

445
00:22:03.359 --> 00:22:05.519
<v Speaker 2>had created a list, and I won't go through the

446
00:22:05.599 --> 00:22:07.839
<v Speaker 2>names of the list, but I had to listen names.

447
00:22:08.000 --> 00:22:11.359
<v Speaker 2>Through my process of learning people and watching and stuff,

448
00:22:11.400 --> 00:22:13.720
<v Speaker 2>I had to listen names of kind of a wish

449
00:22:13.720 --> 00:22:15.799
<v Speaker 2>list of these are the guys I want to meet. Yeah,

450
00:22:15.799 --> 00:22:17.240
<v Speaker 2>I mean, of course, carry On who was number one.

451
00:22:17.279 --> 00:22:19.000
<v Speaker 2>Always wanted to meet Carroll, so I got to do that.

452
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<v Speaker 2>One of those names on that list at that time

453
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<v Speaker 2>was Jimmy Barr, only because of all the information that

454
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<v Speaker 2>was coming out of the one sixty eight about his

455
00:22:27.279 --> 00:22:29.319
<v Speaker 2>work ethic and he spent more time in the woods

456
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<v Speaker 2>than anybody else. When everybody came back to eat, they

457
00:22:32.000 --> 00:22:34.079
<v Speaker 2>were like, where's Jimmy, They said, he's still out there.

458
00:22:34.200 --> 00:22:35.799
<v Speaker 2>So I liked that. I thought I would like to

459
00:22:35.799 --> 00:22:38.880
<v Speaker 2>meet Jimmy Barr. Souff like that. So Carrie's like, he

460
00:22:38.960 --> 00:22:41.440
<v Speaker 2>lives in Florida, he goes, I can make that happen.

461
00:22:41.920 --> 00:22:44.200
<v Speaker 2>So a long story short, me and Jimmy did connect.

462
00:22:44.519 --> 00:22:46.599
<v Speaker 2>He ended up only living two counties away from me,

463
00:22:47.119 --> 00:22:49.680
<v Speaker 2>started going out with him and Mike. We were going

464
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<v Speaker 2>out pretty regular. Then one day they're like, hey, we

465
00:22:52.720 --> 00:22:54.680
<v Speaker 2>want to make you a full member. You're out here

466
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<v Speaker 2>you're doing it. So that's how I got into being

467
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<v Speaker 2>on a team. Since then, I pretty much go out

468
00:23:00.880 --> 00:23:04.440
<v Speaker 2>every single weekend ever since then. So we're going on

469
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<v Speaker 2>over two years now as a team. Literally every weekend

470
00:23:08.680 --> 00:23:11.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm out there at some point other than bad weather

471
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<v Speaker 2>or something like that.

472
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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about the next time you had an experience

473
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<v Speaker 1>with one of these things. Tell us what happened during

474
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<v Speaker 1>that experience.

475
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<v Speaker 2>But started with all the little things. There was a

476
00:23:22.200 --> 00:23:24.119
<v Speaker 2>time we were out in that same area where the

477
00:23:24.119 --> 00:23:26.839
<v Speaker 2>one sixty eight was. I had an antiday, were heard

478
00:23:26.920 --> 00:23:29.480
<v Speaker 2>rock clacking. It was like really fast, like you took

479
00:23:29.519 --> 00:23:31.759
<v Speaker 2>two rocks are really rapidly hit on. And it was

480
00:23:31.759 --> 00:23:34.799
<v Speaker 2>always little things like you could explain it. What was that?

481
00:23:34.960 --> 00:23:38.480
<v Speaker 2>Me single, don't have kids. Holidays is the best time

482
00:23:38.519 --> 00:23:42.119
<v Speaker 2>for me to get out and camp because there's nobody around.

483
00:23:42.559 --> 00:23:45.319
<v Speaker 2>So I started doing this thing where mostly it was

484
00:23:45.319 --> 00:23:48.759
<v Speaker 2>Thanksgiving and Christmas. I would always go camping. A couple

485
00:23:48.759 --> 00:23:52.400
<v Speaker 2>of years ago, on Christmas, I decided to go camping

486
00:23:52.480 --> 00:23:55.559
<v Speaker 2>for three days because everybody's at Grandma's house. I go

487
00:23:55.599 --> 00:23:57.839
<v Speaker 2>to this one location. It's not that same location we

488
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<v Speaker 2>had been going to this different location. What made it

489
00:24:00.440 --> 00:24:02.799
<v Speaker 2>different was. It was in Florida. It was twenty nine degrees,

490
00:24:03.400 --> 00:24:06.079
<v Speaker 2>which is unheard of in South Florida, and we do

491
00:24:06.200 --> 00:24:09.680
<v Speaker 2>get cold weather, but twenty nine degrees is pretty intense

492
00:24:10.000 --> 00:24:12.480
<v Speaker 2>cold weather. There was nobody out there. Nobody in Florida

493
00:24:12.599 --> 00:24:14.119
<v Speaker 2>was a camp in cold weather like that stuff. So

494
00:24:14.119 --> 00:24:16.319
<v Speaker 2>it was really nice. It was perfect the first day

495
00:24:16.319 --> 00:24:19.079
<v Speaker 2>I got out there on Friday, nothing out of the ordinary.

496
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<v Speaker 2>All day it was nice and quiet, went on a

497
00:24:21.000 --> 00:24:24.400
<v Speaker 2>few hikes. Then the next day, that morning, I get

498
00:24:24.440 --> 00:24:25.960
<v Speaker 2>up really early and said, I'm going to take a

499
00:24:26.039 --> 00:24:29.000
<v Speaker 2>height and then come back and eat breakfast. So I

500
00:24:29.039 --> 00:24:31.720
<v Speaker 2>started going down this trail. I went down it for

501
00:24:31.759 --> 00:24:34.640
<v Speaker 2>a while, at least a half hour forty five minute walk,

502
00:24:34.960 --> 00:24:36.400
<v Speaker 2>but you can take up a lot of ground if

503
00:24:36.400 --> 00:24:38.720
<v Speaker 2>you're walking on stop for that length of time. I

504
00:24:38.759 --> 00:24:41.920
<v Speaker 2>got to this one spot where there was a little

505
00:24:41.920 --> 00:24:43.920
<v Speaker 2>bit of a water source on my right, a water

506
00:24:43.920 --> 00:24:46.119
<v Speaker 2>source on my left, not big. Each water hole was

507
00:24:46.160 --> 00:24:47.960
<v Speaker 2>about the size of a queen's size. Bay. I don't

508
00:24:48.039 --> 00:24:49.880
<v Speaker 2>usually do this. I don't do Knox and I don't

509
00:24:49.920 --> 00:24:52.000
<v Speaker 2>do calls. So I said, I'm going to do a

510
00:24:52.000 --> 00:24:55.319
<v Speaker 2>call see if I get anything. So I'm standing right

511
00:24:55.319 --> 00:24:57.839
<v Speaker 2>there so I leaned at that time more of a

512
00:24:57.880 --> 00:25:02.000
<v Speaker 2>primate thing, so I did as loud as I could.

513
00:25:02.160 --> 00:25:05.079
<v Speaker 2>So I waited there for a few minutes, waiting nothing.

514
00:25:05.680 --> 00:25:07.640
<v Speaker 2>So I decided to continue walking. So I walked for

515
00:25:07.640 --> 00:25:10.359
<v Speaker 2>another half hour or so. I've started to get hungry.

516
00:25:10.359 --> 00:25:11.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm getting tired. I said, I'm gonna head back and

517
00:25:12.119 --> 00:25:15.160
<v Speaker 2>back to the camp. I'm walking back ended up back

518
00:25:15.160 --> 00:25:17.599
<v Speaker 2>of that same spot, because this has the two water

519
00:25:17.680 --> 00:25:19.920
<v Speaker 2>spots pretty clear. Where I knew where I was at.

520
00:25:20.119 --> 00:25:22.839
<v Speaker 2>In the middle of that trail was a palmetto frond,

521
00:25:23.359 --> 00:25:27.640
<v Speaker 2>freshly green, ripped right out of palmetto in placed right

522
00:25:27.640 --> 00:25:29.319
<v Speaker 2>there in the mail of the trail. It was not

523
00:25:29.440 --> 00:25:31.640
<v Speaker 2>there when I came by the first time. I tell

524
00:25:31.640 --> 00:25:34.200
<v Speaker 2>people all the time, if you're not from Florida, palmeto

525
00:25:34.240 --> 00:25:38.640
<v Speaker 2>fronds are extremely strong. Okay, I'm five point ten, two

526
00:25:38.720 --> 00:25:41.519
<v Speaker 2>hundred and fifteen pounds. I cannot pull one of these

527
00:25:41.519 --> 00:25:43.519
<v Speaker 2>things out of the ground. I had a guy with

528
00:25:43.559 --> 00:25:45.200
<v Speaker 2>me one time. It was a lot bigger than me.

529
00:25:45.319 --> 00:25:48.400
<v Speaker 2>He was probably around six foot sixty one. He weighed

530
00:25:48.960 --> 00:25:51.640
<v Speaker 2>to forty five. He could not pull one of these

531
00:25:51.680 --> 00:25:54.519
<v Speaker 2>things out of the ground. They're very strong. But here's

532
00:25:54.559 --> 00:25:56.839
<v Speaker 2>this one. It looked like the end of it had exploded,

533
00:25:57.079 --> 00:25:59.200
<v Speaker 2>like boom, it just ripped out. It was laying in

534
00:25:59.240 --> 00:26:01.799
<v Speaker 2>the mail of the trail. So I documented it, took

535
00:26:01.839 --> 00:26:04.960
<v Speaker 2>some photograph stuff like that. I don't know. It was weird.

536
00:26:05.079 --> 00:26:07.279
<v Speaker 2>So I go back to camp, cook myself some hot

537
00:26:07.279 --> 00:26:10.160
<v Speaker 2>dogs for breakfast. The rest of the day was uneventful.

538
00:26:10.599 --> 00:26:14.160
<v Speaker 2>Then I go to bed. Like a researcher, I make mistakes.

539
00:26:14.279 --> 00:26:17.400
<v Speaker 2>I've gotten better. You learn from your mistakes. I've learned

540
00:26:17.400 --> 00:26:20.759
<v Speaker 2>now that you record all the time, you gotta have

541
00:26:21.039 --> 00:26:25.079
<v Speaker 2>something run in all the time. Back then, I didn't

542
00:26:25.279 --> 00:26:26.759
<v Speaker 2>into the night was the end of the night. I

543
00:26:26.759 --> 00:26:29.400
<v Speaker 2>need to save battery power. I need to save my

544
00:26:29.519 --> 00:26:32.640
<v Speaker 2>charging power. So I'm going to shut everything off and

545
00:26:32.680 --> 00:26:34.920
<v Speaker 2>go to bed. So I go to bed. I don't

546
00:26:34.920 --> 00:26:37.839
<v Speaker 2>know what time it was, but it felt levenish or

547
00:26:37.880 --> 00:26:41.279
<v Speaker 2>something like that. Twelve ish. I've heard this scream. It

548
00:26:41.359 --> 00:26:45.519
<v Speaker 2>was just very weird scream. I couldn't never could re

549
00:26:45.680 --> 00:26:48.359
<v Speaker 2>enact it. It was just this weird scream and it

550
00:26:48.400 --> 00:26:51.720
<v Speaker 2>only happened one time. It was just very loud scream.

551
00:26:52.240 --> 00:26:54.000
<v Speaker 2>Woke me up. I sat there. At that point, I

552
00:26:54.000 --> 00:26:56.799
<v Speaker 2>did turn a recorder and just never did it again,

553
00:26:56.799 --> 00:26:58.799
<v Speaker 2>so I shut a recorder off and went back to sleep.

554
00:26:59.440 --> 00:27:05.400
<v Speaker 2>Now is a open tent where its windows three hundred

555
00:27:05.400 --> 00:27:07.799
<v Speaker 2>and sixty from eighteen inches up all the way to

556
00:27:07.839 --> 00:27:09.319
<v Speaker 2>the top, so all you get to do is sit

557
00:27:09.400 --> 00:27:11.200
<v Speaker 2>up and you can see three hundred and sixty degrees.

558
00:27:11.240 --> 00:27:13.599
<v Speaker 2>That's why I purchased that debt, because it was twenty

559
00:27:13.720 --> 00:27:16.359
<v Speaker 2>nine degrees out. I had the fly so everything was

560
00:27:16.400 --> 00:27:18.640
<v Speaker 2>covered because I needed to keep the cold air out,

561
00:27:18.720 --> 00:27:22.200
<v Speaker 2>the breeze and stuff like that. I'm sleeping, I'm a

562
00:27:22.200 --> 00:27:27.359
<v Speaker 2>pretty light sleeper. I've heard something rubbing my tent, so

563
00:27:27.440 --> 00:27:30.440
<v Speaker 2>I wake up. I slowly roll over. I'm laying there

564
00:27:30.480 --> 00:27:33.160
<v Speaker 2>looking up at the top of the tent. I can

565
00:27:33.319 --> 00:27:36.119
<v Speaker 2>hear it on the roof of my tent. Something walking

566
00:27:36.119 --> 00:27:40.279
<v Speaker 2>around my tent, rubbing. It's arm, just going it's hand

567
00:27:40.400 --> 00:27:44.359
<v Speaker 2>down or whatever down the move to the debt. I'm

568
00:27:44.400 --> 00:27:46.359
<v Speaker 2>sitting there listening to it, and it would work its

569
00:27:46.359 --> 00:27:49.079
<v Speaker 2>way all the way across to my head, then all

570
00:27:49.079 --> 00:27:53.319
<v Speaker 2>the way back to my feet. Anxiety is going low. Okay,

571
00:27:53.319 --> 00:27:56.319
<v Speaker 2>something going on here. So I reach down and I

572
00:27:56.359 --> 00:27:59.119
<v Speaker 2>get my phone, and I got this huge flash let,

573
00:27:59.119 --> 00:28:02.599
<v Speaker 2>this one right here. I got my flashlight. I got

574
00:28:02.599 --> 00:28:05.680
<v Speaker 2>my phone ready to record, and I got my fingers

575
00:28:05.720 --> 00:28:08.920
<v Speaker 2>on the zipper and I'm and I creeping. I'm just

576
00:28:09.119 --> 00:28:12.400
<v Speaker 2>slowly edging my way as close as I can through

577
00:28:12.400 --> 00:28:14.640
<v Speaker 2>the door so I could jump out. I'm listening to say,

578
00:28:14.799 --> 00:28:18.400
<v Speaker 2>still rubbing the end of my tent. Then it gets quiet.

579
00:28:18.440 --> 00:28:21.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't hear anything. Then I hear my cooler get

580
00:28:21.920 --> 00:28:25.319
<v Speaker 2>picked up, and it's sloshing like somebody's walking with it.

581
00:28:25.359 --> 00:28:27.960
<v Speaker 2>And you hear the stuff shifting back and forth with

582
00:28:28.039 --> 00:28:30.920
<v Speaker 2>the ice and everything shifting back and forth. That's what

583
00:28:31.079 --> 00:28:34.440
<v Speaker 2>got me really going, because that's all the food and

584
00:28:34.480 --> 00:28:38.039
<v Speaker 2>water I had. Everything the last the next three days

585
00:28:38.359 --> 00:28:40.799
<v Speaker 2>was in that cooler. Now, I sound a huge cooler,

586
00:28:40.920 --> 00:28:43.960
<v Speaker 2>but it's a big enough cooler. That's what freaked me. Outside.

587
00:28:44.400 --> 00:28:48.400
<v Speaker 2>Unzip the tent, I jump out. There's nothing there. There's

588
00:28:48.440 --> 00:28:51.559
<v Speaker 2>just nothing there, and the cooler is about twenty twenty

589
00:28:51.559 --> 00:28:54.720
<v Speaker 2>five feet away from my tent. That noise, because it

590
00:28:54.720 --> 00:28:57.400
<v Speaker 2>makes noise opening up a tent, and that process that

591
00:28:57.519 --> 00:29:00.640
<v Speaker 2>opened up the tad. They saying drop the cooler and

592
00:29:00.799 --> 00:29:05.599
<v Speaker 2>was gone. Remember it's twenty nine degrees. I'm not dressed.

593
00:29:05.839 --> 00:29:07.960
<v Speaker 2>I was dressed for sleeping I was not dressed for

594
00:29:08.680 --> 00:29:11.599
<v Speaker 2>walking around in twenty nine degree temperature. So I'm walking

595
00:29:11.640 --> 00:29:14.599
<v Speaker 2>around with this flashlight skinning woods, walking around my tent,

596
00:29:14.680 --> 00:29:18.079
<v Speaker 2>skinning the woods, and then that fear hit me again.

597
00:29:18.640 --> 00:29:21.400
<v Speaker 2>I better look up because I can't find anything. I'm

598
00:29:21.440 --> 00:29:24.200
<v Speaker 2>thinking maybe this thing went upward. So now I'm scanning

599
00:29:24.279 --> 00:29:27.640
<v Speaker 2>the trees. Never did see anything. I grabbed the cooler.

600
00:29:27.960 --> 00:29:30.319
<v Speaker 2>I put it in my truck on the floorboard and

601
00:29:30.519 --> 00:29:33.400
<v Speaker 2>shutting locked the truck. Of course, sleeping was not easy

602
00:29:33.480 --> 00:29:36.119
<v Speaker 2>after that, but I finally found some time all asleep

603
00:29:37.119 --> 00:29:38.880
<v Speaker 2>the next day. Though. When I did get out, I

604
00:29:38.880 --> 00:29:40.880
<v Speaker 2>walked around to see if I can find prints or anything,

605
00:29:40.920 --> 00:29:43.720
<v Speaker 2>but the substrate was so hard, the leaf litter was

606
00:29:43.759 --> 00:29:46.000
<v Speaker 2>so bad. It's going to be very difficult to find

607
00:29:46.000 --> 00:29:48.480
<v Speaker 2>any prints. To this day. I still had that cooler

608
00:29:48.759 --> 00:29:53.720
<v Speaker 2>and there's large scratch like where the handle is on

609
00:29:53.720 --> 00:29:56.240
<v Speaker 2>one side. I don't know if the thumb scratched it

610
00:29:56.359 --> 00:29:58.920
<v Speaker 2>or whatever, but there was a huge scratch going right

611
00:29:58.960 --> 00:30:02.440
<v Speaker 2>down the side of this cooler. I had to narrow

612
00:30:02.480 --> 00:30:05.400
<v Speaker 2>it down because I know it wasn't raccoons. Because the

613
00:30:05.440 --> 00:30:08.000
<v Speaker 2>cooler was just way too heavy. I had ten pound

614
00:30:08.079 --> 00:30:11.680
<v Speaker 2>bag of ice in it six pack of soda, water,

615
00:30:12.599 --> 00:30:16.400
<v Speaker 2>hot dogs, condiments. So what are we looking at? Twenty

616
00:30:16.440 --> 00:30:20.160
<v Speaker 2>pounds maybe a little more. That's too heavy for a raccoon.

617
00:30:20.200 --> 00:30:23.160
<v Speaker 2>Pick it up and walk it twenty feet twenty five feet.

618
00:30:23.200 --> 00:30:25.200
<v Speaker 2>If it was a bear, I think they would have

619
00:30:25.319 --> 00:30:28.000
<v Speaker 2>just ripped it open. I don't see them giving it

620
00:30:28.119 --> 00:30:29.759
<v Speaker 2>up that easy. I think he would have ran off

621
00:30:29.799 --> 00:30:31.880
<v Speaker 2>with it. I don't know. It's one of those things

622
00:30:31.880 --> 00:30:35.160
<v Speaker 2>where whatever was tall enough that it touched the roof

623
00:30:35.200 --> 00:30:37.960
<v Speaker 2>of my tent. It walked from one end to the other,

624
00:30:38.279 --> 00:30:41.039
<v Speaker 2>touching the roof of my tent. That was in December,

625
00:30:41.039 --> 00:30:44.079
<v Speaker 2>because that was Christmas. I went back in February, got

626
00:30:44.079 --> 00:30:47.359
<v Speaker 2>the exact same spot that everything up the exact same way.

627
00:30:48.000 --> 00:30:50.559
<v Speaker 2>This time I brought my dog with me. Never taken

628
00:30:50.599 --> 00:30:52.640
<v Speaker 2>my dog out in the woods with me. He was

629
00:30:52.680 --> 00:30:56.640
<v Speaker 2>a wonderful, sweet dog, quiet, wonderful dog. But taking it

630
00:30:56.720 --> 00:30:59.920
<v Speaker 2>out there, everything was great. He was acting perfect as normal.

631
00:31:00.000 --> 00:31:02.720
<v Speaker 2>We go to bed. I think this was the second

632
00:31:02.799 --> 00:31:05.519
<v Speaker 2>night I brought his bed so he felt comfortable sleeping

633
00:31:05.559 --> 00:31:08.400
<v Speaker 2>in the tent. So he is at my foot now

634
00:31:08.480 --> 00:31:12.240
<v Speaker 2>this time it's February. It's not twenty nine degrees out,

635
00:31:12.359 --> 00:31:15.400
<v Speaker 2>so I don't have to fly on I can see everything.

636
00:31:15.799 --> 00:31:17.200
<v Speaker 2>As a matter of fact, I have a picture in

637
00:31:17.240 --> 00:31:19.440
<v Speaker 2>my phone where I'm laying in bed. I took a

638
00:31:19.480 --> 00:31:22.519
<v Speaker 2>picture straight up looking out and you can see the

639
00:31:22.559 --> 00:31:24.759
<v Speaker 2>sky with the trees criss crossing. I just thought it

640
00:31:24.759 --> 00:31:27.599
<v Speaker 2>looked really nice, So it gives you an idea. That night,

641
00:31:28.079 --> 00:31:32.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm sleeping and I get woken up by my dog growling.

642
00:31:32.599 --> 00:31:34.880
<v Speaker 2>And my dog is never barked. He doesn't bark at anything,

643
00:31:34.880 --> 00:31:38.200
<v Speaker 2>he doesn't growl. It doesn't have an aggressive bone in

644
00:31:38.240 --> 00:31:40.480
<v Speaker 2>his body. He's just a sweet dog. But all of

645
00:31:40.480 --> 00:31:44.160
<v Speaker 2>a sudden, he's got this low growl. So I wake

646
00:31:44.279 --> 00:31:46.880
<v Speaker 2>up because it shocked me. Why here's my dog growling.

647
00:31:47.160 --> 00:31:49.119
<v Speaker 2>And I look down at my feet where he's at,

648
00:31:49.319 --> 00:31:53.039
<v Speaker 2>and he's staring at the window right here to my left. Now,

649
00:31:53.079 --> 00:31:54.880
<v Speaker 2>this window is close enough that I can touch it.

650
00:31:55.279 --> 00:31:57.400
<v Speaker 2>Tans aren't what they say they were. I can touch

651
00:31:57.400 --> 00:32:00.599
<v Speaker 2>this window right here. I'm watching him and he's just saddy,

652
00:32:00.799 --> 00:32:03.279
<v Speaker 2>just will not take his eyes off that window. So

653
00:32:03.319 --> 00:32:06.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, okay, get the nerve up. So I stood up.

654
00:32:06.359 --> 00:32:08.880
<v Speaker 2>So now it's like face level, I can just turn

655
00:32:08.960 --> 00:32:11.559
<v Speaker 2>my head and look at that window. So when I

656
00:32:11.680 --> 00:32:14.880
<v Speaker 2>do that and I turn and look, there is something

657
00:32:15.440 --> 00:32:18.519
<v Speaker 2>right outside that window looking and I don't know what

658
00:32:18.599 --> 00:32:21.559
<v Speaker 2>it is. I can see it at nighttime if somebody's

659
00:32:21.559 --> 00:32:24.079
<v Speaker 2>walking down your driveway, you can tell somebody walking down

660
00:32:24.079 --> 00:32:26.599
<v Speaker 2>your driveway, but you can't tell who it is. You

661
00:32:26.599 --> 00:32:29.000
<v Speaker 2>don't know who it is. But I couldn't tell no

662
00:32:29.119 --> 00:32:31.759
<v Speaker 2>features because it was just it was dark. Of course,

663
00:32:31.759 --> 00:32:34.039
<v Speaker 2>you got the screen of the tent, which kind of

664
00:32:34.039 --> 00:32:37.039
<v Speaker 2>messes things up as well. I'm looking at this thing.

665
00:32:37.240 --> 00:32:39.759
<v Speaker 2>We're staring at each other. Whatever it is, it's looking

666
00:32:39.799 --> 00:32:42.119
<v Speaker 2>at me and I'm looking at it. So I'm sitting

667
00:32:42.119 --> 00:32:44.119
<v Speaker 2>and I'm moving my head trying to get a better view,

668
00:32:44.160 --> 00:32:46.839
<v Speaker 2>and I'm moving around looking at it. This thing did

669
00:32:46.880 --> 00:32:49.440
<v Speaker 2>not move. It just rock solid, just stared at it.

670
00:32:50.160 --> 00:32:53.799
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, all right, get my handy torch here, and

671
00:32:53.880 --> 00:32:56.640
<v Speaker 2>I got my phone ready. I'm about to blast this

672
00:32:56.759 --> 00:32:59.359
<v Speaker 2>thing in the face and I'm about to see what

673
00:32:59.480 --> 00:33:03.680
<v Speaker 2>is this look? That was my mistake. I knew it's

674
00:33:03.759 --> 00:33:06.480
<v Speaker 2>different with the blind on, but I didn't know you

675
00:33:06.480 --> 00:33:08.359
<v Speaker 2>get in the same effect with the screens that once

676
00:33:08.400 --> 00:33:10.960
<v Speaker 2>you hit that flashlight, you can't see out that tent.

677
00:33:11.680 --> 00:33:14.400
<v Speaker 2>It just lamed right back in your face. So as

678
00:33:14.480 --> 00:33:17.519
<v Speaker 2>soon as I hit that flashlight, whatever it was shoved

679
00:33:17.519 --> 00:33:20.160
<v Speaker 2>my tent, just shoved the bottom of the tent because

680
00:33:20.200 --> 00:33:22.759
<v Speaker 2>about I don't know, eighteen inches of the tent is

681
00:33:22.799 --> 00:33:26.680
<v Speaker 2>solid around the bottom. That all pushed in. My dog

682
00:33:26.799 --> 00:33:29.480
<v Speaker 2>jumps in the air, lands in my lap. I start

683
00:33:29.480 --> 00:33:32.079
<v Speaker 2>grabbing stuff, I get out of the tent, and again,

684
00:33:32.200 --> 00:33:33.920
<v Speaker 2>whatever it was, by the time I can get my

685
00:33:33.960 --> 00:33:35.680
<v Speaker 2>dogs out and get out of the tent, it was gone.

686
00:33:36.200 --> 00:33:37.839
<v Speaker 2>To this day, I don't know what it was. I

687
00:33:37.839 --> 00:33:39.920
<v Speaker 2>have no idea what it was, but I got the

688
00:33:39.960 --> 00:33:45.559
<v Speaker 2>feeling that whatever was squatty, like picture the gargoyles on

689
00:33:45.720 --> 00:33:48.920
<v Speaker 2>Notre Dame. How the squatting gave me that sense that

690
00:33:48.960 --> 00:33:51.920
<v Speaker 2>whatever was squatting down and just sitting here watching me.

691
00:33:52.519 --> 00:33:56.480
<v Speaker 2>Non aggressive or both the incidents were non aggressive. It

692
00:33:56.519 --> 00:34:00.440
<v Speaker 2>was more like curiosity. But definitely the one that left

693
00:34:00.880 --> 00:34:02.079
<v Speaker 2>a lasting impression.

694
00:34:02.519 --> 00:34:04.240
<v Speaker 1>One of the things I think I ask you guys

695
00:34:04.359 --> 00:34:07.000
<v Speaker 1>on the round table that we had down at the

696
00:34:07.039 --> 00:34:10.079
<v Speaker 1>Great Florida Bigfoot Conference was what kind of evidence are

697
00:34:10.119 --> 00:34:13.199
<v Speaker 1>you finding in the woods, whether it be tree breaks,

698
00:34:13.280 --> 00:34:16.440
<v Speaker 1>are you guys hearing wood knocks? You've talked a little

699
00:34:16.480 --> 00:34:18.639
<v Speaker 1>bit about the vocalizations that you're hearing. But let's talk

700
00:34:18.679 --> 00:34:21.440
<v Speaker 1>a little bit about footprints. Are you able to take

701
00:34:21.559 --> 00:34:24.159
<v Speaker 1>cast and the substraight down there? And are you hearing

702
00:34:24.239 --> 00:34:26.559
<v Speaker 1>wood knocks and finding tree breaks. That's one of the

703
00:34:26.599 --> 00:34:29.119
<v Speaker 1>things that has fascinated me about the subject is it

704
00:34:29.159 --> 00:34:31.679
<v Speaker 1>seems like no matter where you go, and Florida seems

705
00:34:31.679 --> 00:34:33.800
<v Speaker 1>to be a little bit different than most other places

706
00:34:33.840 --> 00:34:37.280
<v Speaker 1>that I've been as far as Sasquatch is concerned. Talk

707
00:34:37.320 --> 00:34:39.239
<v Speaker 1>a little bit about what kind of physical evidence you

708
00:34:39.239 --> 00:34:40.159
<v Speaker 1>guys are finding there.

709
00:34:40.719 --> 00:34:43.800
<v Speaker 2>We run the whole litmus of everything we do find prints,

710
00:34:44.360 --> 00:34:46.280
<v Speaker 2>Especially this year, I found a couple of good wins.

711
00:34:46.360 --> 00:34:48.599
<v Speaker 2>Bobby and Jimmy have cast it to Prince At the

712
00:34:48.639 --> 00:34:51.480
<v Speaker 2>Bigfoot conference. We had those at our table so people

713
00:34:51.480 --> 00:34:54.400
<v Speaker 2>can look at those different sizes too. There was fifteen

714
00:34:54.480 --> 00:34:58.599
<v Speaker 2>inch and smaller and stuff like that. We find structures

715
00:34:58.880 --> 00:35:02.760
<v Speaker 2>with me criteria. When it comes to structures, I'm not

716
00:35:02.760 --> 00:35:05.840
<v Speaker 2>big on crosses. Just not big on crosses. I tell

717
00:35:05.840 --> 00:35:08.639
<v Speaker 2>people all the time, when two sticks fall, it's gonna

718
00:35:08.719 --> 00:35:10.599
<v Speaker 2>form a T n X or an L. It's just

719
00:35:10.679 --> 00:35:13.960
<v Speaker 2>always going to form those positions unless there's something else

720
00:35:14.039 --> 00:35:16.559
<v Speaker 2>to it that makes me go, wait a minute, that's weird.

721
00:35:16.960 --> 00:35:20.719
<v Speaker 2>Then I pretty much don't pay excess. But arches. I

722
00:35:20.800 --> 00:35:25.719
<v Speaker 2>find some really extravagant arches. I've got some pictures of

723
00:35:25.960 --> 00:35:28.679
<v Speaker 2>some that are just blow my mind to this day.

724
00:35:28.719 --> 00:35:31.920
<v Speaker 2>I look at it like, Wow, that's just amazing that

725
00:35:32.000 --> 00:35:37.159
<v Speaker 2>this twenty foot tall pine tree is bent over. I'm

726
00:35:37.199 --> 00:35:41.760
<v Speaker 2>not talking way over, it bent directly over, like it's

727
00:35:41.800 --> 00:35:45.719
<v Speaker 2>a horseshoe, and the end of it is shoved into

728
00:35:45.719 --> 00:35:49.599
<v Speaker 2>the ground. That's all that's holding it itself, shoved into

729
00:35:49.599 --> 00:35:52.599
<v Speaker 2>the ground. I don't find a lot as in a

730
00:35:52.719 --> 00:35:56.000
<v Speaker 2>structure like I know and other stage sell find tps

731
00:35:56.280 --> 00:35:58.639
<v Speaker 2>different things like that. But I found some things that

732
00:35:58.719 --> 00:36:03.760
<v Speaker 2>look like in a a natural blind that easily something

733
00:36:03.760 --> 00:36:06.280
<v Speaker 2>can get inside of and you'd walk right past them

734
00:36:06.320 --> 00:36:09.840
<v Speaker 2>and never see them. They're interesting. I found one one

735
00:36:09.880 --> 00:36:12.760
<v Speaker 2>time with Jimmy and I crawled inside of it. When

736
00:36:12.800 --> 00:36:15.079
<v Speaker 2>I got into it, it was like an igloo. I

737
00:36:15.079 --> 00:36:18.679
<v Speaker 2>could do jumping Jackson this thing, but yet it was

738
00:36:18.880 --> 00:36:21.719
<v Speaker 2>there like an igloo had a small opening that I

739
00:36:21.760 --> 00:36:24.800
<v Speaker 2>could easily fit through my hands and knees, but when

740
00:36:24.840 --> 00:36:27.000
<v Speaker 2>I got inside, I could stand up In the middle.

741
00:36:27.159 --> 00:36:29.760
<v Speaker 2>There was a hole probably the size of a cup,

742
00:36:29.920 --> 00:36:32.159
<v Speaker 2>and there was a stick in it, size of a

743
00:36:32.199 --> 00:36:36.840
<v Speaker 2>number two pencil, Like something was digging with this stick.

744
00:36:37.599 --> 00:36:39.760
<v Speaker 2>That was interesting because you would think you'd have to

745
00:36:39.760 --> 00:36:42.639
<v Speaker 2>have a thune or something to hold on to, something

746
00:36:42.679 --> 00:36:45.599
<v Speaker 2>to dig or whatever. I don't know any animals in

747
00:36:45.679 --> 00:36:48.519
<v Speaker 2>Florida that would use a stick for anything. But then

748
00:36:48.599 --> 00:36:51.559
<v Speaker 2>later on we went to another location and I found

749
00:36:51.599 --> 00:36:54.239
<v Speaker 2>the same thing. There were out in the middle of

750
00:36:54.280 --> 00:36:56.320
<v Speaker 2>nowhere there was a hole and there was a stick

751
00:36:56.480 --> 00:36:58.599
<v Speaker 2>out the size of a number two pencil, probably about

752
00:36:59.119 --> 00:37:02.920
<v Speaker 2>twelve to fifteen inches long, in a hole, like something

753
00:37:03.000 --> 00:37:06.559
<v Speaker 2>was digging. I have said there's pictures to Randy Harrington

754
00:37:06.639 --> 00:37:09.119
<v Speaker 2>because he had posted one time about these small sticks

755
00:37:09.159 --> 00:37:10.920
<v Speaker 2>that he was finding in holes and stuff like that,

756
00:37:11.320 --> 00:37:13.480
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, oh, wow, me too, here's somebody

757
00:37:13.519 --> 00:37:15.559
<v Speaker 2>else that's running into the same thing. So I hit

758
00:37:15.599 --> 00:37:18.039
<v Speaker 2>him up and I seen him at pictures and he agreed.

759
00:37:18.079 --> 00:37:21.119
<v Speaker 2>He came back and said, it's our belief or theory

760
00:37:21.679 --> 00:37:26.880
<v Speaker 2>that it's juveniles. They're either entertaining themselves or maybe looking

761
00:37:26.880 --> 00:37:28.960
<v Speaker 2>for grubs or something like that. I don't know, but

762
00:37:29.079 --> 00:37:32.440
<v Speaker 2>it's usually in structures or a different errors like that,

763
00:37:32.639 --> 00:37:35.639
<v Speaker 2>where they're been left by the parents, so I don't know,

764
00:37:36.119 --> 00:37:36.800
<v Speaker 2>very interesting.

765
00:37:37.119 --> 00:37:39.599
<v Speaker 1>As soon as you said the sticks in the holes

766
00:37:39.800 --> 00:37:43.320
<v Speaker 1>inside the structure, I literally wrote down Shane Carpenter because

767
00:37:43.719 --> 00:37:45.760
<v Speaker 1>that's one of the things that Shane and Randy and

768
00:37:45.800 --> 00:37:47.880
<v Speaker 1>I talked about. I had him on separately on the

769
00:37:47.880 --> 00:37:50.400
<v Speaker 1>show in the past. I think Shane was the first

770
00:37:50.400 --> 00:37:52.320
<v Speaker 1>person to mention it to me that were finding these

771
00:37:52.360 --> 00:37:54.679
<v Speaker 1>in the four hundred, and he really hadn't talked a

772
00:37:54.719 --> 00:37:56.719
<v Speaker 1>lot about it because it took them a couple of

773
00:37:56.880 --> 00:37:59.880
<v Speaker 1>years to document a ton of these things. He didn't

774
00:37:59.880 --> 00:38:01.639
<v Speaker 1>want to put it out there immediately and say, hey,

775
00:38:01.679 --> 00:38:03.880
<v Speaker 1>we're finding these things. He and Randy both wanted to

776
00:38:03.920 --> 00:38:06.519
<v Speaker 1>do a little bit more research. I found it fascinating

777
00:38:06.559 --> 00:38:09.480
<v Speaker 1>because I'd never heard anybody talk about that. It's one

778
00:38:09.519 --> 00:38:11.639
<v Speaker 1>of the things I love about this show man is

779
00:38:11.719 --> 00:38:15.280
<v Speaker 1>talking to so many people. That's the beauty of podcasts,

780
00:38:15.639 --> 00:38:18.760
<v Speaker 1>the ability to talk to people in so many different places.

781
00:38:18.920 --> 00:38:21.760
<v Speaker 1>You put all this data together, you find that over

782
00:38:21.800 --> 00:38:24.519
<v Speaker 1>and over again, they're finding this in the four hundred,

783
00:38:24.599 --> 00:38:27.679
<v Speaker 1>you're finding it in Florida. I'm sure there are probably

784
00:38:27.760 --> 00:38:32.199
<v Speaker 1>people around the country that are finding these holes and

785
00:38:32.239 --> 00:38:34.079
<v Speaker 1>sticks in them. And they don't know what to make

786
00:38:34.159 --> 00:38:36.639
<v Speaker 1>of it because they may have not heard anybody else

787
00:38:36.679 --> 00:38:39.519
<v Speaker 1>talk about it. I think it's fascinating that you're finding

788
00:38:39.599 --> 00:38:42.800
<v Speaker 1>that in Florida and the four hundred. I think maybe

789
00:38:42.840 --> 00:38:45.880
<v Speaker 1>I talked to Shane Corson or Amy Bou or somebody

790
00:38:46.000 --> 00:38:48.840
<v Speaker 1>maybe in the area of the Olympics out in the

791
00:38:48.880 --> 00:38:51.719
<v Speaker 1>Olympic Project that had found similar things and they didn't

792
00:38:51.760 --> 00:38:52.559
<v Speaker 1>know what to make of it.

793
00:38:52.679 --> 00:38:54.199
<v Speaker 2>That was a couple of years ago. We started finding

794
00:38:54.199 --> 00:38:56.880
<v Speaker 2>these small sticks, but I had found larger sticks, I say,

795
00:38:56.920 --> 00:39:00.920
<v Speaker 2>the size of a broomstick shoved straight now into the ground.

796
00:39:01.159 --> 00:39:03.719
<v Speaker 2>Now again, like I said, I'm two hundred and fifteen pounds.

797
00:39:04.000 --> 00:39:06.559
<v Speaker 2>And I took a stick and leaned on it with

798
00:39:06.719 --> 00:39:09.559
<v Speaker 2>all my weight and it fell over. I could not

799
00:39:09.840 --> 00:39:12.639
<v Speaker 2>get it ast the leaf litter, and the leaf litter

800
00:39:12.679 --> 00:39:15.599
<v Speaker 2>is probably about three inches deep before you actually got

801
00:39:15.599 --> 00:39:18.920
<v Speaker 2>sub straight. This was in the sub straight. I don't

802
00:39:18.920 --> 00:39:20.840
<v Speaker 2>know how it got that way, and I've documented that

803
00:39:20.920 --> 00:39:23.440
<v Speaker 2>a few times. Then I went back, let's say a

804
00:39:23.440 --> 00:39:25.400
<v Speaker 2>month or two later, I want to check on this stick.

805
00:39:25.400 --> 00:39:28.360
<v Speaker 2>Because I try not to disturb anything, I leave it alone.

806
00:39:28.800 --> 00:39:31.800
<v Speaker 2>I came back right beside it another one. What are

807
00:39:31.840 --> 00:39:35.480
<v Speaker 2>the chances of two sticks? So there's bigger ones as well,

808
00:39:35.519 --> 00:39:37.559
<v Speaker 2>but it's the little ones that really got me going.

809
00:39:37.679 --> 00:39:40.159
<v Speaker 2>Like I said when I touched space with Randy that

810
00:39:40.320 --> 00:39:42.840
<v Speaker 2>we had some similarities. I'm a true believer on the

811
00:39:42.880 --> 00:39:45.159
<v Speaker 2>Skuckgate route table. I made it very obvious on where

812
00:39:45.159 --> 00:39:49.119
<v Speaker 2>I stand. To me, there could be some differences between

813
00:39:49.440 --> 00:39:52.559
<v Speaker 2>the Florida skunk Gate and the Bigfoot of the Northwest

814
00:39:52.639 --> 00:39:55.480
<v Speaker 2>or whatever, but I don't think it's very many. As

815
00:39:55.519 --> 00:39:58.559
<v Speaker 2>far as I think there's more similarities than are differences.

816
00:39:58.960 --> 00:40:01.400
<v Speaker 2>I think they're all the same speed. It's on Caucasian

817
00:40:01.679 --> 00:40:04.679
<v Speaker 2>and you have a Chinese guy. There's differences in US,

818
00:40:04.840 --> 00:40:06.559
<v Speaker 2>but there's a lot of similarities.

819
00:40:07.760 --> 00:40:10.079
<v Speaker 1>And stay tuned for more Sasquatch out to see. We'll

820
00:40:10.159 --> 00:40:12.079
<v Speaker 1>be right back after these messages.

821
00:40:16.119 --> 00:40:18.760
<v Speaker 2>And I think that's what it is with quote the

822
00:40:18.800 --> 00:40:21.679
<v Speaker 2>skunk gape. People think, because we use the term eight

823
00:40:22.480 --> 00:40:25.360
<v Speaker 2>that the skunk gape is some kind of primate, something

824
00:40:25.400 --> 00:40:28.679
<v Speaker 2>that escaped or whatever. It's a bigfoot, it's a sasquatch.

825
00:40:28.760 --> 00:40:31.320
<v Speaker 2>The sidings that we have here, these things get up

826
00:40:31.360 --> 00:40:35.000
<v Speaker 2>there six seven eight feet tall, covered in hair, leave

827
00:40:35.159 --> 00:40:38.360
<v Speaker 2>you large footprints sixteen inch eighteen inch. I've had some

828
00:40:38.599 --> 00:40:41.760
<v Speaker 2>researchers here playing they found twenty three inch footprints, So

829
00:40:42.360 --> 00:40:45.639
<v Speaker 2>they're big. They're here, they're big, and they're the same thing.

830
00:40:46.159 --> 00:40:51.159
<v Speaker 2>I think the changes are habitat is different. They have

831
00:40:51.239 --> 00:40:54.079
<v Speaker 2>to adjust to the heat here. I don't care what

832
00:40:54.280 --> 00:40:57.400
<v Speaker 2>you are. When you come to Florida or the South

833
00:40:57.440 --> 00:41:01.199
<v Speaker 2>in general, you got to deal with a different heat

834
00:41:01.239 --> 00:41:03.800
<v Speaker 2>than you would in the Pacific Northwest. So you're gonna

835
00:41:03.840 --> 00:41:07.519
<v Speaker 2>make changes on habitat. So I think habitat might need

836
00:41:07.519 --> 00:41:10.079
<v Speaker 2>a change. We'll go into different areas to look for

837
00:41:10.159 --> 00:41:14.360
<v Speaker 2>them because of the habitat versus being out in the mountains,

838
00:41:14.400 --> 00:41:15.719
<v Speaker 2>in the woods and stuff like that.

839
00:41:15.840 --> 00:41:17.920
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I'm glad you mentioned that. That's one of the things.

840
00:41:17.960 --> 00:41:19.960
<v Speaker 1>I think we talked about it on the Skuncake Brown table.

841
00:41:20.000 --> 00:41:21.920
<v Speaker 1>I've talked to people like David Soddi in the past

842
00:41:22.440 --> 00:41:25.480
<v Speaker 1>who claimed very much like you, that they're very similar

843
00:41:25.519 --> 00:41:29.480
<v Speaker 1>to all the bigfoot sasquatch throughout the continental United States

844
00:41:29.519 --> 00:41:32.199
<v Speaker 1>in the Pacific Northwest, people have seen these things eight

845
00:41:32.360 --> 00:41:35.239
<v Speaker 1>nine ten feet tall in some cases. A lot of

846
00:41:35.280 --> 00:41:38.800
<v Speaker 1>times you hear them described as being smaller in Florida.

847
00:41:38.880 --> 00:41:42.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure that there would be that much difference. Obviously,

848
00:41:42.719 --> 00:41:45.199
<v Speaker 1>the closer you get to the equator, Bergmann's law tells

849
00:41:45.199 --> 00:41:46.280
<v Speaker 1>you that the things are going to get a little

850
00:41:46.280 --> 00:41:50.800
<v Speaker 1>bit smaller. Florida is definitely closer to the equator than

851
00:41:50.880 --> 00:41:54.079
<v Speaker 1>say Canada, for example. As far as those differences are concerned,

852
00:41:54.079 --> 00:41:55.639
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you brought that up one of the things

853
00:41:55.639 --> 00:41:57.480
<v Speaker 1>that's been on my mind. Because I am a skeptic.

854
00:41:57.519 --> 00:41:59.519
<v Speaker 1>I've made no qualms about that I haven't seen one

855
00:41:59.519 --> 00:42:03.079
<v Speaker 1>of these creature. I certainly want to believe that they're real.

856
00:42:03.239 --> 00:42:06.199
<v Speaker 1>I certainly believe the people who say they have encountered something,

857
00:42:06.599 --> 00:42:08.199
<v Speaker 1>but I haven't seen one, so I can't be one

858
00:42:08.280 --> 00:42:11.679
<v Speaker 1>hundred percent. So let me ask you this. As far

859
00:42:11.840 --> 00:42:14.960
<v Speaker 1>as let's say some of the differences in the temperature,

860
00:42:15.159 --> 00:42:18.599
<v Speaker 1>twenty nine degrees is way out of the norm for

861
00:42:18.719 --> 00:42:22.360
<v Speaker 1>South Florida, but there are places like Minnesota that get

862
00:42:22.400 --> 00:42:26.239
<v Speaker 1>forty below We've had conversations about if you dropped a

863
00:42:26.280 --> 00:42:30.559
<v Speaker 1>silverback gorilla in Minnesota and it got forty below zero,

864
00:42:31.079 --> 00:42:33.920
<v Speaker 1>the silver backs dead right. It's a great ep very

865
00:42:33.920 --> 00:42:36.599
<v Speaker 1>similar I think to what I believe that sasquatch is.

866
00:42:36.639 --> 00:42:39.639
<v Speaker 1>Should they exist, How do you think they cope with that.

867
00:42:39.719 --> 00:42:42.639
<v Speaker 1>People have had all kinds of things that we've talked about.

868
00:42:42.800 --> 00:42:45.000
<v Speaker 1>Do you think they're using caves? Doug Hicheck, when he

869
00:42:45.079 --> 00:42:47.639
<v Speaker 1>was on the roundtable, said, I think they use peat

870
00:42:47.679 --> 00:42:51.119
<v Speaker 1>bogs to stay warm. How do you think they deal with,

871
00:42:51.280 --> 00:42:53.679
<v Speaker 1>let's say the extreme heat. I know you have humidity

872
00:42:53.719 --> 00:42:56.320
<v Speaker 1>in Florida. We deal with it here in North Carolina

873
00:42:56.360 --> 00:42:59.880
<v Speaker 1>where I'm at Georgia, certainly the humidity is different hundred

874
00:43:00.199 --> 00:43:05.199
<v Speaker 1>eight degrees, and say somewhere like Las Vegas, you get

875
00:43:05.199 --> 00:43:08.039
<v Speaker 1>one hundred and eight degrees in Florida, You're probably going

876
00:43:08.119 --> 00:43:10.400
<v Speaker 1>to be miserable and or die if you don't take

877
00:43:10.440 --> 00:43:12.559
<v Speaker 1>some precautions. So how do you think these things as

878
00:43:12.559 --> 00:43:15.920
<v Speaker 1>a species deal with that extreme heat and humidity in

879
00:43:15.960 --> 00:43:20.239
<v Speaker 1>Florida and say somewhere like Minnesota where it maybe forty below.

880
00:43:20.480 --> 00:43:22.239
<v Speaker 1>How do you think they deal with that as a species.

881
00:43:22.800 --> 00:43:25.440
<v Speaker 2>On one part, what you said earlier about the skepticism,

882
00:43:25.840 --> 00:43:28.679
<v Speaker 2>everybody needs to come in with some level of skepticism.

883
00:43:29.039 --> 00:43:34.800
<v Speaker 2>Skepticism creates questions, and as researchers and investigators, we have

884
00:43:34.880 --> 00:43:38.320
<v Speaker 2>to find questions. So people say that all the time

885
00:43:38.400 --> 00:43:40.840
<v Speaker 2>that well, I'm skeptic. That's great because that needs you

886
00:43:40.880 --> 00:43:42.920
<v Speaker 2>have questions. And when you have questions, that means you

887
00:43:42.920 --> 00:43:45.239
<v Speaker 2>want to find answers. When you want to find answers,

888
00:43:45.280 --> 00:43:46.559
<v Speaker 2>that means you're going to go out there and you're

889
00:43:46.599 --> 00:43:49.639
<v Speaker 2>going to look. So I have no issue with skepticism.

890
00:43:49.840 --> 00:43:53.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm a true knower that this thing absolutely just had

891
00:43:53.480 --> 00:43:55.639
<v Speaker 2>too much evidence. Some of this thing does not exist.

892
00:43:56.239 --> 00:43:58.400
<v Speaker 2>But I still go in it with skepticism because that's

893
00:43:58.400 --> 00:44:01.480
<v Speaker 2>what creates questions. Anybody says that I don't want to

894
00:44:01.480 --> 00:44:04.840
<v Speaker 2>ever getting on Brian Barn's it's coptic. Brian asked questions,

895
00:44:05.320 --> 00:44:07.719
<v Speaker 2>you want answers. As far as the skunk gate and

896
00:44:08.079 --> 00:44:11.920
<v Speaker 2>dealing with it the weather, I think they've adapted. They've

897
00:44:11.960 --> 00:44:15.719
<v Speaker 2>been here a long time. I have brothers that never

898
00:44:15.760 --> 00:44:18.280
<v Speaker 2>grew up in Florida. They grew up in Chicago. I'm

899
00:44:18.360 --> 00:44:20.840
<v Speaker 2>born and raised right here. I'm living in the town

900
00:44:20.920 --> 00:44:22.519
<v Speaker 2>that I was born. This is where I went to

901
00:44:22.599 --> 00:44:24.960
<v Speaker 2>high school, this is where I grew up. I still

902
00:44:25.000 --> 00:44:27.880
<v Speaker 2>live in the same town. So they'll ask, dude, how

903
00:44:27.920 --> 00:44:29.679
<v Speaker 2>do you do it? Man, we come down to visit,

904
00:44:29.760 --> 00:44:32.880
<v Speaker 2>we can't even breathe. Floridians know how to deal with

905
00:44:32.960 --> 00:44:36.760
<v Speaker 2>it because one, we don't wear black shirts in the outside.

906
00:44:37.480 --> 00:44:40.199
<v Speaker 2>We wear tank tops and flip flops. We drink lots

907
00:44:40.239 --> 00:44:43.119
<v Speaker 2>of fluid, and we never stand in the sun. We

908
00:44:43.239 --> 00:44:46.000
<v Speaker 2>stand under an awning, we stand under a tree. We

909
00:44:46.320 --> 00:44:50.960
<v Speaker 2>find shade to make it taller. I think sasquatch is

910
00:44:50.960 --> 00:44:54.239
<v Speaker 2>the same thing. It's going to move into areas where

911
00:44:54.320 --> 00:44:56.960
<v Speaker 2>the temperature is just a little bit different. If you

912
00:44:57.119 --> 00:45:00.480
<v Speaker 2>can find an area where a stream is dried up

913
00:45:00.480 --> 00:45:03.239
<v Speaker 2>because of the heat, it's still cooler. Once you go

914
00:45:03.440 --> 00:45:07.719
<v Speaker 2>down the bank and get into that stream. Area two Florida,

915
00:45:07.840 --> 00:45:12.639
<v Speaker 2>you don't have to dig very deep to get moisture. Okay,

916
00:45:12.719 --> 00:45:15.440
<v Speaker 2>we have a very shallow water table here. That's why

917
00:45:15.519 --> 00:45:17.960
<v Speaker 2>we have sinkholes. Everybody sees the sink holes and Ford

918
00:45:18.079 --> 00:45:20.480
<v Speaker 2>has because when that water drives up, it leaves these

919
00:45:20.519 --> 00:45:24.119
<v Speaker 2>air pockets and the earth flapses. So if they wanted

920
00:45:24.159 --> 00:45:26.599
<v Speaker 2>to dig a hole just a couple of feet deep

921
00:45:27.079 --> 00:45:30.000
<v Speaker 2>and lay in it, they're gonna cool down. Hogs do

922
00:45:30.119 --> 00:45:33.039
<v Speaker 2>it every day. I think at some point they will

923
00:45:33.159 --> 00:45:36.360
<v Speaker 2>find a water source. That's where they're gonna stay for

924
00:45:36.440 --> 00:45:39.639
<v Speaker 2>a while. They're gonna be near water. Everything is gonna

925
00:45:39.639 --> 00:45:41.760
<v Speaker 2>be near water. At this time of the year it

926
00:45:41.920 --> 00:45:45.360
<v Speaker 2>is so unbarely hot. That's where I go. I find

927
00:45:45.480 --> 00:45:48.079
<v Speaker 2>areas where I know I have a water source because

928
00:45:48.199 --> 00:45:51.880
<v Speaker 2>deer all the animals are gonna be utilizing that water

929
00:45:52.039 --> 00:45:54.079
<v Speaker 2>source because of the heat. I think that's what they do.

930
00:45:54.199 --> 00:45:56.679
<v Speaker 2>I think it's just they'll adapt. I said it my

931
00:45:56.760 --> 00:45:59.440
<v Speaker 2>last video last week. I'm walking and I point at

932
00:45:59.480 --> 00:46:01.880
<v Speaker 2>this base of this tree where it's just shaded, and

933
00:46:02.079 --> 00:46:04.199
<v Speaker 2>I was dying, this is hot. I said, I had

934
00:46:04.239 --> 00:46:07.599
<v Speaker 2>to change trails because that trail looks more shady than

935
00:46:07.639 --> 00:46:11.079
<v Speaker 2>the trail. I was on why about camera at this tree,

936
00:46:11.079 --> 00:46:13.320
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, I was a Sasquatch, That's where

937
00:46:13.320 --> 00:46:16.000
<v Speaker 2>I'd be laying right now because it's pretty shady right there.

938
00:46:16.360 --> 00:46:18.559
<v Speaker 2>That's what we do. I'm pretty sure that's what he does,

939
00:46:18.840 --> 00:46:24.400
<v Speaker 2>is takes advantage of opportunity, shady areas and river beds

940
00:46:24.440 --> 00:46:25.119
<v Speaker 2>and stuff like that.

941
00:46:25.519 --> 00:46:27.800
<v Speaker 1>We were going back and forth way before we did

942
00:46:27.880 --> 00:46:30.719
<v Speaker 1>the Great Florida Bigfoot Conference, and we see eye to

943
00:46:30.840 --> 00:46:33.119
<v Speaker 1>eye on a lot of things. I know there's some

944
00:46:33.239 --> 00:46:35.159
<v Speaker 1>things that bug you just like it does me. In

945
00:46:35.199 --> 00:46:38.320
<v Speaker 1>the community, Wayne and I started an entire new podcast

946
00:46:38.480 --> 00:46:40.840
<v Speaker 1>called That Bigfoot Podcast to talk about the shit that

947
00:46:40.880 --> 00:46:43.760
<v Speaker 1>pisses us off about Bigfoot. I know there's some things

948
00:46:43.800 --> 00:46:45.840
<v Speaker 1>that have come up recently. We've talked about it on

949
00:46:45.960 --> 00:46:48.760
<v Speaker 1>the show in the past. I have some issues with

950
00:46:49.079 --> 00:46:51.400
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the evidence that people present out there.

951
00:46:51.480 --> 00:46:53.800
<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of things going around that I'm just

952
00:46:53.960 --> 00:46:57.360
<v Speaker 1>not one hundred percent convinced about. The Sierra Sound comes

953
00:46:57.360 --> 00:46:58.719
<v Speaker 1>to mind. That's one of the things you and I've

954
00:46:58.760 --> 00:47:01.280
<v Speaker 1>talked about privately. Let's talk a little bit about that,

955
00:47:01.360 --> 00:47:03.960
<v Speaker 1>because I'll be honest with you. I've met Ron multiple times.

956
00:47:04.000 --> 00:47:06.639
<v Speaker 1>I've had him on the show multiple times. I've got

957
00:47:06.719 --> 00:47:10.079
<v Speaker 1>all of his books. I have some issues with the

958
00:47:10.239 --> 00:47:13.719
<v Speaker 1>Sierra Sounds, and I think people have over the years

959
00:47:13.880 --> 00:47:16.239
<v Speaker 1>tended to see that as one of the biggest pieces

960
00:47:16.320 --> 00:47:18.960
<v Speaker 1>of evidence. It's almost up there with the Patterson Gimblin film,

961
00:47:19.280 --> 00:47:21.280
<v Speaker 1>the free footage, and some of the other stuff that

962
00:47:21.320 --> 00:47:23.920
<v Speaker 1>we've seen. I have some issues with it.

963
00:47:24.000 --> 00:47:25.480
<v Speaker 2>I know you have science face books.

964
00:47:25.599 --> 00:47:27.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so let's talk a little bit about some of

965
00:47:27.679 --> 00:47:30.000
<v Speaker 1>the issues that you have with the Sierra Sounds and

966
00:47:30.039 --> 00:47:31.960
<v Speaker 1>maybe even some of the other evidences out there.

967
00:47:32.119 --> 00:47:34.320
<v Speaker 2>I think I'm about to hear some egos. I might

968
00:47:34.400 --> 00:47:36.639
<v Speaker 2>see my subscriber down and go down. But I go

969
00:47:36.760 --> 00:47:40.159
<v Speaker 2>into things logical. It's got to make sense. When I

970
00:47:40.360 --> 00:47:43.599
<v Speaker 2>listened to the Sierra sounds, there's little things that bother me.

971
00:47:44.000 --> 00:47:48.559
<v Speaker 2>We have over fifty years of research in this field.

972
00:47:49.079 --> 00:47:53.639
<v Speaker 2>There's been a lot of vocals that have been recorded. Now, granted,

973
00:47:53.679 --> 00:47:56.559
<v Speaker 2>I think a lot of them are coyotes or wolves.

974
00:47:56.920 --> 00:47:59.760
<v Speaker 2>I saw this documentary and this guy had studied these

975
00:47:59.800 --> 00:48:03.440
<v Speaker 2>well and said, they have almost one hundred different vocalizations.

976
00:48:03.920 --> 00:48:07.079
<v Speaker 2>They've got vocalizations we've never even heard. They have the

977
00:48:07.199 --> 00:48:10.079
<v Speaker 2>capability of making all these different vocalizations. So all of

978
00:48:10.119 --> 00:48:12.519
<v Speaker 2>a sudden, you got to understand, dude, I'd never heard

979
00:48:12.559 --> 00:48:15.159
<v Speaker 2>that before. It doesn't mean it's not a wolf or cayun.

980
00:48:15.360 --> 00:48:17.079
<v Speaker 2>He's just making a sound that you haven't heard before.

981
00:48:17.440 --> 00:48:20.599
<v Speaker 2>But there are some out there that you go wow,

982
00:48:21.280 --> 00:48:24.480
<v Speaker 2>like the Ohio howse and stuff like that. But when

983
00:48:24.519 --> 00:48:27.000
<v Speaker 2>it comes to the c Era sounds, this is what

984
00:48:27.239 --> 00:48:30.840
<v Speaker 2>gets me is this. The research has been goun on

985
00:48:30.920 --> 00:48:37.400
<v Speaker 2>for over fifty years, and nobody has recorded that. Just him.

986
00:48:38.039 --> 00:48:40.360
<v Speaker 2>He's the only one that recorded that. He's the only

987
00:48:40.400 --> 00:48:43.400
<v Speaker 2>one who's got those vocalizations. Now we use it as

988
00:48:43.480 --> 00:48:45.800
<v Speaker 2>a litmus test. You hear it all the time in

989
00:48:45.880 --> 00:48:49.039
<v Speaker 2>people's stories that I'm not hearing it in recordings. But

990
00:48:49.119 --> 00:48:51.480
<v Speaker 2>people say, storage, oh, it sounded like the share sounds.

991
00:48:51.519 --> 00:48:54.559
<v Speaker 2>It sounded like samurai chatter. It just becomes the common

992
00:48:54.760 --> 00:48:58.280
<v Speaker 2>norm to say that. But when we look at fifty

993
00:48:58.400 --> 00:49:02.079
<v Speaker 2>years of recordings, we think all these creatures are similar,

994
00:49:02.119 --> 00:49:05.360
<v Speaker 2>They're all the same things, fame, species, whatever. But yet

995
00:49:05.719 --> 00:49:09.000
<v Speaker 2>he's the only one that has caught that specific sound.

996
00:49:09.719 --> 00:49:12.079
<v Speaker 2>So I'm like, Okay, that's strange to me that we

997
00:49:12.159 --> 00:49:15.199
<v Speaker 2>haven't recorded that again. You should be able to repeat

998
00:49:15.239 --> 00:49:17.159
<v Speaker 2>that down the road. Somebody else would have gotten it,

999
00:49:17.199 --> 00:49:21.199
<v Speaker 2>but we don't. But then it's so clear, it's like

1000
00:49:21.480 --> 00:49:25.000
<v Speaker 2>the thing is talking into the microphone. It's so clear,

1001
00:49:25.840 --> 00:49:30.239
<v Speaker 2>and you're talking nineteen seventy two. The equipment that we

1002
00:49:30.400 --> 00:49:34.679
<v Speaker 2>used back then, it's recorded cassetts. It's not that clear.

1003
00:49:35.320 --> 00:49:38.519
<v Speaker 2>And distance, it doesn't pick up distance that far. I

1004
00:49:38.599 --> 00:49:41.639
<v Speaker 2>have a digital recorder, I can I can catch a

1005
00:49:41.760 --> 00:49:45.679
<v Speaker 2>mosquito farting from a mile away, But I sure guarantee

1006
00:49:45.719 --> 00:49:48.679
<v Speaker 2>you the equipment that I've got in nineteen seventy two

1007
00:49:49.519 --> 00:49:51.599
<v Speaker 2>is not going to pick up sounds one hundred yards away.

1008
00:49:51.639 --> 00:49:55.400
<v Speaker 2>That easy yet these sounds are so clear, so loud.

1009
00:49:55.920 --> 00:49:58.199
<v Speaker 2>So I'm like, wait a minute, that doesn't seem right

1010
00:49:58.280 --> 00:50:00.719
<v Speaker 2>for the equipment for that fine period.

1011
00:50:01.320 --> 00:50:01.519
<v Speaker 1>Two.

1012
00:50:02.440 --> 00:50:05.440
<v Speaker 2>This is where I blow the metaphysical people in the water.

1013
00:50:05.639 --> 00:50:08.519
<v Speaker 2>I say this. Everybody knows I'm not saying something new.

1014
00:50:09.039 --> 00:50:13.599
<v Speaker 2>Everybody knows I am not into anything supernatural with sasquatch

1015
00:50:13.800 --> 00:50:19.480
<v Speaker 2>at all. Period ortals orbs, mind speed, none of that

1016
00:50:20.880 --> 00:50:24.480
<v Speaker 2>is a living, breathing creature. It's a biological entity that

1017
00:50:24.559 --> 00:50:27.880
<v Speaker 2>we're looking for. But yet we're told so much that

1018
00:50:28.000 --> 00:50:30.440
<v Speaker 2>this thing likes to hide, it likes to be unknown,

1019
00:50:30.599 --> 00:50:34.119
<v Speaker 2>But yet it's yelling and having conversations with other sasquatch

1020
00:50:34.320 --> 00:50:36.239
<v Speaker 2>around them. It doesn't make a lot of sense that

1021
00:50:36.480 --> 00:50:39.400
<v Speaker 2>this thing is vocalizing like that when it's trying to

1022
00:50:39.440 --> 00:50:41.880
<v Speaker 2>be quiet, it's trying to be hidden. It doesn't want

1023
00:50:41.920 --> 00:50:44.639
<v Speaker 2>to be seen. It wants to observe you, but not

1024
00:50:44.800 --> 00:50:47.599
<v Speaker 2>be known. But yet this thing is having this great conversation.

1025
00:50:47.800 --> 00:50:49.719
<v Speaker 2>When you get vocals that we have now, like the

1026
00:50:49.800 --> 00:50:52.280
<v Speaker 2>Ohio how's and different things like that, it's always from

1027
00:50:52.320 --> 00:50:57.280
<v Speaker 2>a distance that's expected because they don't know you're right there.

1028
00:50:57.519 --> 00:51:00.000
<v Speaker 2>It's not till they get closer but every time sasquatch,

1029
00:51:00.079 --> 00:51:03.239
<v Speaker 2>he's closer, he gets quieter. You ever notice that you

1030
00:51:03.320 --> 00:51:06.440
<v Speaker 2>don't get an ohio how outside of your camping tent.

1031
00:51:07.119 --> 00:51:09.880
<v Speaker 2>It's always a distance because I think they're the reason

1032
00:51:09.920 --> 00:51:12.159
<v Speaker 2>for that. But here sounds, it's not like that. I

1033
00:51:12.239 --> 00:51:14.840
<v Speaker 2>started looking into it, like, man, it's something's not making

1034
00:51:14.960 --> 00:51:19.800
<v Speaker 2>sense here. Then he had the naval linguist that did

1035
00:51:19.880 --> 00:51:25.360
<v Speaker 2>this research in depth, deep dive into these recordings. He says,

1036
00:51:25.440 --> 00:51:27.679
<v Speaker 2>there's a language, and there's this, and this, and there's

1037
00:51:27.800 --> 00:51:29.920
<v Speaker 2>multiple and they're talking back and board and all this.

1038
00:51:30.760 --> 00:51:33.199
<v Speaker 2>Here's where I have an issue with that. I'm prior, Naty.

1039
00:51:33.760 --> 00:51:39.480
<v Speaker 2>The linguists on ship do not decipher languages. They only

1040
00:51:39.719 --> 00:51:42.159
<v Speaker 2>do the languages that they're trained in. If it was

1041
00:51:42.199 --> 00:51:44.239
<v Speaker 2>in French and he knew French, he could say, Okay,

1042
00:51:44.280 --> 00:51:46.280
<v Speaker 2>this is what's going on. Or if it was Chinese,

1043
00:51:46.440 --> 00:51:49.719
<v Speaker 2>talk about a language that's unknown. So he does this

1044
00:51:49.880 --> 00:51:53.960
<v Speaker 2>deep breakdown on this thing, but he's never periodewed it.

1045
00:51:54.559 --> 00:51:57.880
<v Speaker 2>He's never taken it and given it to another linguist

1046
00:51:58.559 --> 00:52:00.719
<v Speaker 2>to do a deep dive on. If he comes up

1047
00:52:00.760 --> 00:52:04.679
<v Speaker 2>with the same answer, That's what a peer review is about.

1048
00:52:05.079 --> 00:52:08.480
<v Speaker 2>If I find something I just did one not too

1049
00:52:08.559 --> 00:52:10.480
<v Speaker 2>long ago, where a guy has his footprint, there's a

1050
00:52:10.519 --> 00:52:12.920
<v Speaker 2>group of us looking at his footprint, each giving us

1051
00:52:13.280 --> 00:52:16.599
<v Speaker 2>their perspective. It's a peer review. He's never done that.

1052
00:52:17.159 --> 00:52:20.960
<v Speaker 2>This linguist, this naval linguist, has never relinquished all his

1053
00:52:21.199 --> 00:52:24.480
<v Speaker 2>data to another linguist or a group of linguists or

1054
00:52:24.719 --> 00:52:28.639
<v Speaker 2>university and that specialized as a linguist to analyze this

1055
00:52:28.960 --> 00:52:32.199
<v Speaker 2>information to see what they come up. So there's a

1056
00:52:32.239 --> 00:52:36.239
<v Speaker 2>lot of unanswered questions when it comes to the Sierra Sounds,

1057
00:52:36.440 --> 00:52:38.840
<v Speaker 2>a lot of unanswered questions that I'm not going to

1058
00:52:38.880 --> 00:52:41.039
<v Speaker 2>sit here and say one way or another how I

1059
00:52:41.199 --> 00:52:43.400
<v Speaker 2>personally feel about Zara's sounds. But what I am going

1060
00:52:43.440 --> 00:52:46.760
<v Speaker 2>to say is answer these questions. It would go a

1061
00:52:46.840 --> 00:52:50.519
<v Speaker 2>long way in understanding more. So that's my issue with that.

1062
00:52:50.679 --> 00:52:52.880
<v Speaker 2>That's where I stand on the Sierra Sounds. I met

1063
00:52:52.960 --> 00:52:55.519
<v Speaker 2>him last year, tried to talk to him about it.

1064
00:52:56.039 --> 00:52:58.599
<v Speaker 2>Got shut down. He's not going to discuss it. He's

1065
00:52:58.639 --> 00:53:02.159
<v Speaker 2>got handlers that will say, oh, he's busy right now,

1066
00:53:02.239 --> 00:53:03.800
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna have to move along, and all of a sudden,

1067
00:53:03.880 --> 00:53:06.159
<v Speaker 2>but he's on to something else. But I got his

1068
00:53:06.320 --> 00:53:09.159
<v Speaker 2>recording he sells the cassette, and I don't know if

1069
00:53:09.199 --> 00:53:14.119
<v Speaker 2>you ever listened. It's Jonathan Frakes from Star Trek. He

1070
00:53:14.400 --> 00:53:17.440
<v Speaker 2>narrates it, and there's jazz music through the whole thing.

1071
00:53:17.960 --> 00:53:19.639
<v Speaker 2>Why would you do that. I'm trying to listen to

1072
00:53:19.719 --> 00:53:22.360
<v Speaker 2>the sounds up with this other stupid stuff. But that

1073
00:53:22.519 --> 00:53:25.360
<v Speaker 2>was poor planning. Right there, a freak copy of the

1074
00:53:25.440 --> 00:53:27.239
<v Speaker 2>sious sounds. I'll be more than happy to mell it

1075
00:53:27.320 --> 00:53:29.559
<v Speaker 2>to you. If you like jazz music, you'll love it.

1076
00:53:30.079 --> 00:53:32.199
<v Speaker 2>Or if you're a Jonathan Frake's friend. I think that's

1077
00:53:32.239 --> 00:53:34.000
<v Speaker 2>his name, Jonath Frakes. You can see his picture on

1078
00:53:34.079 --> 00:53:36.440
<v Speaker 2>the back. He narrates it. It took him a while,

1079
00:53:36.760 --> 00:53:38.760
<v Speaker 2>he befriended him and stuff like that. It took some

1080
00:53:38.800 --> 00:53:40.000
<v Speaker 2>time to day in Bye. It did him out there,

1081
00:53:40.039 --> 00:53:42.400
<v Speaker 2>and you went out there and had this down. Where

1082
00:53:42.440 --> 00:53:44.920
<v Speaker 2>are these other guys? I would love to talk to

1083
00:53:45.000 --> 00:53:46.960
<v Speaker 2>these other guys. I'd love to see their interviews. I'd

1084
00:53:46.960 --> 00:53:49.079
<v Speaker 2>love to see what they had to say about what

1085
00:53:49.280 --> 00:53:52.320
<v Speaker 2>took place up there while Ron was up there. But

1086
00:53:52.440 --> 00:53:55.119
<v Speaker 2>we don't hear from those other guys. I'm only getting

1087
00:53:55.679 --> 00:53:59.000
<v Speaker 2>one narrative and I want more. That's all I'm asking

1088
00:53:59.079 --> 00:54:02.000
<v Speaker 2>that's all I've ever had, answer these questions and give

1089
00:54:02.039 --> 00:54:04.159
<v Speaker 2>me more information so I can base my opinion on

1090
00:54:04.280 --> 00:54:04.800
<v Speaker 2>what's going on.

1091
00:54:05.559 --> 00:54:07.239
<v Speaker 1>I definitely think that's fair. I have some of the

1092
00:54:07.360 --> 00:54:09.400
<v Speaker 1>very same questions that you have about it. I have

1093
00:54:09.480 --> 00:54:12.559
<v Speaker 1>a problem with the proximity of the sounds and how

1094
00:54:12.639 --> 00:54:16.519
<v Speaker 1>close they sound to the microphone, the fact that very few,

1095
00:54:16.719 --> 00:54:19.639
<v Speaker 1>if any recordings. I know there's been some recordings in

1096
00:54:19.760 --> 00:54:22.119
<v Speaker 1>the past. I don't think they've been published, but Brian

1097
00:54:22.199 --> 00:54:24.360
<v Speaker 1>Brown and some of those folks, some of the former

1098
00:54:24.480 --> 00:54:28.000
<v Speaker 1>members of the NAWAC, the North American Wood Ape Conservancy

1099
00:54:28.039 --> 00:54:31.039
<v Speaker 1>out in Area X, have recorded what they believe to

1100
00:54:31.159 --> 00:54:35.440
<v Speaker 1>be sounds that are very similar to the Sierra sounds.

1101
00:54:35.519 --> 00:54:38.679
<v Speaker 1>Some of these quote unquote samurai chatter. I've looked on

1102
00:54:38.719 --> 00:54:41.519
<v Speaker 1>the NAWAC. I'm actually putting together a special I've got

1103
00:54:41.559 --> 00:54:45.159
<v Speaker 1>about six hours of audio that they've recorded from Area

1104
00:54:45.480 --> 00:54:48.880
<v Speaker 1>X interviews and experiences, then I'm going to put out

1105
00:54:48.920 --> 00:54:51.320
<v Speaker 1>here in the next month or so. I've never heard

1106
00:54:51.400 --> 00:54:54.800
<v Speaker 1>anything that sounds like what we hear on the Sierra Sands.

1107
00:54:54.840 --> 00:54:56.760
<v Speaker 1>The only time I, frankly ever heard that was up

1108
00:54:56.840 --> 00:54:59.039
<v Speaker 1>in Radium, BC, and I shared this with you. I

1109
00:54:59.159 --> 00:55:02.599
<v Speaker 1>heard it personally with my own ears. It was probably

1110
00:55:02.760 --> 00:55:05.880
<v Speaker 1>less than a second, but it sounded like a kind

1111
00:55:05.920 --> 00:55:09.000
<v Speaker 1>of like a samurai chatter sound. But you're right, we

1112
00:55:09.119 --> 00:55:13.320
<v Speaker 1>don't hear that in the recordings that people produce over

1113
00:55:13.400 --> 00:55:16.400
<v Speaker 1>the last fifty plus years that these things were recorded,

1114
00:55:16.480 --> 00:55:18.519
<v Speaker 1>So I definitely had some of the same issues.

1115
00:55:19.199 --> 00:55:24.400
<v Speaker 2>Prints are consistent, structures are consistent, sightings are consistent, but

1116
00:55:24.519 --> 00:55:25.320
<v Speaker 2>that sound isn't.

1117
00:55:26.239 --> 00:55:28.159
<v Speaker 1>Don't quote me on this. I would have to go

1118
00:55:28.280 --> 00:55:31.159
<v Speaker 1>back and reach out to Cliff and ask him. We've

1119
00:55:31.199 --> 00:55:33.360
<v Speaker 1>never had a conversation specifically about it. I don't know

1120
00:55:33.400 --> 00:55:36.000
<v Speaker 1>if it was Cliff and or maybe Jeff Meldrum that

1121
00:55:36.079 --> 00:55:41.039
<v Speaker 1>have examined the cast from the footprints that were allegedly

1122
00:55:41.119 --> 00:55:44.239
<v Speaker 1>recovered from the Sierra Camp. I know I've heard people

1123
00:55:44.280 --> 00:55:47.199
<v Speaker 1>that have had issue with those. They don't exactly consider

1124
00:55:47.280 --> 00:55:51.000
<v Speaker 1>them to be authentic. Don't quote me on that, but

1125
00:55:51.360 --> 00:55:53.559
<v Speaker 1>I've definitely heard that out there. So there's a lot

1126
00:55:53.599 --> 00:55:56.480
<v Speaker 1>of questions around that, And again, it's one of those

1127
00:55:56.559 --> 00:56:00.800
<v Speaker 1>things that it's hard to prove a negative. It's very

1128
00:56:00.920 --> 00:56:04.840
<v Speaker 1>difficult to prove that something is hoaxed, specifically when it

1129
00:56:04.920 --> 00:56:07.320
<v Speaker 1>comes to Bigfoot. That's the issue that I've had with

1130
00:56:07.440 --> 00:56:12.280
<v Speaker 1>people like Todd Standing and even ridiculous things like sasquatch Ontario.

1131
00:56:12.679 --> 00:56:16.039
<v Speaker 1>Some of the shit that he's put forward, it's almost impossible.

1132
00:56:16.440 --> 00:56:18.519
<v Speaker 1>Even though this Dwayne guy has come out and clearly

1133
00:56:18.559 --> 00:56:21.599
<v Speaker 1>said I'm the one doing this voice, and people still

1134
00:56:21.800 --> 00:56:26.960
<v Speaker 1>believe that what Mike Patterson is putting forward is the gospel. See.

1135
00:56:27.119 --> 00:56:31.679
<v Speaker 2>That's the problem is there are so many people that

1136
00:56:31.840 --> 00:56:35.559
<v Speaker 2>are invested in the big Foot phenomenon. As far as

1137
00:56:36.119 --> 00:56:40.480
<v Speaker 2>you're either an investigator, researcher, an armchair guy, or you

1138
00:56:40.639 --> 00:56:43.639
<v Speaker 2>like to watch television programs, a lot of people invested

1139
00:56:43.719 --> 00:56:46.199
<v Speaker 2>in it. I can tomorrow come up with a hoax

1140
00:56:46.320 --> 00:56:48.480
<v Speaker 2>if I wanted to, and I'm going to pull a

1141
00:56:48.519 --> 00:56:52.440
<v Speaker 2>lot of subscribers off that because that's what's happening, because

1142
00:56:52.480 --> 00:56:56.840
<v Speaker 2>there is an entertainment value there. That's the part that

1143
00:56:57.519 --> 00:57:00.159
<v Speaker 2>I tell people all the time. Don't go after these

1144
00:57:00.280 --> 00:57:03.480
<v Speaker 2>negative guys. You can state your opinion on their stuff,

1145
00:57:03.800 --> 00:57:06.519
<v Speaker 2>but don't personally go out and say, hey, unsubscribed to

1146
00:57:06.639 --> 00:57:09.840
<v Speaker 2>this guy, you're wasting your time. Because the drama sells

1147
00:57:10.000 --> 00:57:14.280
<v Speaker 2>for one and two. It's an entertainment purposes A prime example,

1148
00:57:14.320 --> 00:57:16.119
<v Speaker 2>and I don't mind putting his name out there because

1149
00:57:16.320 --> 00:57:19.039
<v Speaker 2>he puts his own name on it. Sonny Vader has

1150
00:57:19.360 --> 00:57:23.559
<v Speaker 2>all these videos that people are like, holy criminal, Look

1151
00:57:23.719 --> 00:57:26.880
<v Speaker 2>that's amazing. Now here's the thing is, I'm not gonna

1152
00:57:26.880 --> 00:57:30.679
<v Speaker 2>say Sonny Vader's hope because he's never claimed anything. He

1153
00:57:30.800 --> 00:57:35.000
<v Speaker 2>has never once verbally claimed anything. But he's putting it

1154
00:57:35.079 --> 00:57:39.159
<v Speaker 2>out there and he's sitting back smiling. He's watching people argue,

1155
00:57:39.480 --> 00:57:44.480
<v Speaker 2>he's watching people praise it. It's entertainment. That's always just entertainment,

1156
00:57:44.519 --> 00:57:47.039
<v Speaker 2>and people are entertained every time I knew Sonny Vader

1157
00:57:47.079 --> 00:57:49.679
<v Speaker 2>thing comes out and I'm like, that's interesting. But I

1158
00:57:49.760 --> 00:57:52.800
<v Speaker 2>can spot a Sunny Vader video in a heartbeat. It's

1159
00:57:52.880 --> 00:57:56.280
<v Speaker 2>all fake, but he has an entertainment value. You watch

1160
00:57:56.320 --> 00:57:59.880
<v Speaker 2>Finding Bigfoot, we met Renee. I never knew Renee Hall

1161
00:58:00.239 --> 00:58:02.599
<v Speaker 2>was going to be that nice of a person. We

1162
00:58:02.760 --> 00:58:07.760
<v Speaker 2>watch Finding Bigfoot and for what entertainment purposes? For one

1163
00:58:07.840 --> 00:58:11.480
<v Speaker 2>hour that night, we're entertained. But were they coming out

1164
00:58:11.480 --> 00:58:13.400
<v Speaker 2>with evidence, Were they coming out with this or coming

1165
00:58:13.440 --> 00:58:16.880
<v Speaker 2>out with that. No, But it's entertainment. That's why I

1166
00:58:17.039 --> 00:58:19.960
<v Speaker 2>stand on that. But there's another side of it. These

1167
00:58:20.000 --> 00:58:25.639
<v Speaker 2>are the guys light out hoaxing, not just hoaxing, but claiming.

1168
00:58:25.760 --> 00:58:30.239
<v Speaker 2>In fact, they want to claim the title of investigator

1169
00:58:30.360 --> 00:58:33.679
<v Speaker 2>or research. That's where I draw the line. That's where

1170
00:58:33.719 --> 00:58:36.199
<v Speaker 2>I have a problem, because those are the people that

1171
00:58:36.280 --> 00:58:40.159
<v Speaker 2>are muddying the waters. I know, Brian on a daily basis,

1172
00:58:40.480 --> 00:58:43.519
<v Speaker 2>how much bullshit you have to go through to find

1173
00:58:43.639 --> 00:58:49.000
<v Speaker 2>good stuff, to find a legitimate researcher. That's finding legitimate evidence,

1174
00:58:49.559 --> 00:58:53.719
<v Speaker 2>because you've got people like this throwing stupid stuff out there.

1175
00:58:54.320 --> 00:58:57.679
<v Speaker 2>Blop squatch. Listen. I tell people I'm the most honest

1176
00:58:57.719 --> 00:59:00.920
<v Speaker 2>person you ever meet. I'm an honest guy. Okay, I

1177
00:59:01.000 --> 00:59:03.320
<v Speaker 2>get told all the time, dude, I subscribe to your

1178
00:59:03.360 --> 00:59:05.920
<v Speaker 2>channel because you're just honest about it. You just tell

1179
00:59:05.960 --> 00:59:07.840
<v Speaker 2>it like it is, and I'm gonna tell you like

1180
00:59:08.000 --> 00:59:11.679
<v Speaker 2>it is. You can watch all my videos and a

1181
00:59:11.719 --> 00:59:13.559
<v Speaker 2>lot of times I come out of the witch with nothing,

1182
00:59:13.920 --> 00:59:17.199
<v Speaker 2>absolutely nothing. But I don't plain nothing if it's nothing there.

1183
00:59:18.039 --> 00:59:20.320
<v Speaker 2>I take people along for the ride. I say, hey, look,

1184
00:59:20.400 --> 00:59:22.280
<v Speaker 2>going into woods to day, We're gonna be looking for

1185
00:59:22.360 --> 00:59:25.440
<v Speaker 2>sasquatch stuff. Come on, let's go. Hey, come with me.

1186
00:59:25.559 --> 00:59:28.840
<v Speaker 2>Then watch my videos. Enjoy the scenery, enjoy the being

1187
00:59:28.920 --> 00:59:32.079
<v Speaker 2>outdoors and seeing Florida the way I see Florida. And

1188
00:59:32.280 --> 00:59:35.320
<v Speaker 2>if we find something, you're there with me. I'm gonna

1189
00:59:35.360 --> 00:59:37.679
<v Speaker 2>document it. Then we're moving on to the next thing.

1190
00:59:37.840 --> 00:59:41.920
<v Speaker 2>No blopsquatches. Watch whoever on my channel. There's no blopsquatches

1191
00:59:41.960 --> 00:59:44.199
<v Speaker 2>on the Facebook page, and.

1192
00:59:44.400 --> 00:59:46.519
<v Speaker 1>Stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see. We'll be

1193
00:59:46.679 --> 00:59:48.360
<v Speaker 1>right back after these messages.

1194
00:59:52.480 --> 00:59:56.639
<v Speaker 2>I personally go through the Facebook every day. We desk

1195
00:59:56.639 --> 00:59:58.920
<v Speaker 2>stuff out. There's no place for it. I don't know

1196
00:59:59.000 --> 01:00:01.199
<v Speaker 2>how many times I've seen a lopsquatch. Then when you

1197
01:00:01.239 --> 01:00:04.280
<v Speaker 2>see the original photo, it's that big they zoomed in

1198
01:00:04.519 --> 01:00:06.280
<v Speaker 2>on a leaf that big, or a root of a

1199
01:00:06.360 --> 01:00:08.880
<v Speaker 2>tree that big they zoom in, so you're seeing it

1200
01:00:09.000 --> 01:00:11.760
<v Speaker 2>like this, or it's a sasquatch. There's people putting hoaxes

1201
01:00:11.800 --> 01:00:14.440
<v Speaker 2>out there, and I'm done with that part. If I

1202
01:00:14.480 --> 01:00:16.320
<v Speaker 2>think your stuff at bull crap, I'm going to tell

1203
01:00:16.320 --> 01:00:17.119
<v Speaker 2>you it's bullcrap.

1204
01:00:17.320 --> 01:00:17.760
<v Speaker 1>Be Leary.

1205
01:00:18.079 --> 01:00:21.000
<v Speaker 2>Two things. Anybody that tells you they're an expert in

1206
01:00:21.039 --> 01:00:24.639
<v Speaker 2>this field, be Leary, that is a red flag because

1207
01:00:24.639 --> 01:00:27.039
<v Speaker 2>they're telling you they're the leading authority and you should

1208
01:00:27.079 --> 01:00:28.920
<v Speaker 2>only be listening to them, and they have all the

1209
01:00:28.960 --> 01:00:32.039
<v Speaker 2>answers nobody has all the answers. There are so many

1210
01:00:32.199 --> 01:00:35.920
<v Speaker 2>unanswered questions about this thing. There is no experts, period,

1211
01:00:36.320 --> 01:00:38.760
<v Speaker 2>So don't listen to anybody once they say I'm the expert.

1212
01:00:38.920 --> 01:00:42.880
<v Speaker 2>There are no experts. Okay, Second red flag. Anybody that

1213
01:00:43.000 --> 01:00:45.760
<v Speaker 2>goes out there every single week and they capture this

1214
01:00:45.880 --> 01:00:48.519
<v Speaker 2>thing on film every week. They got a picture of

1215
01:00:48.559 --> 01:00:50.599
<v Speaker 2>this thing every week. All look what I got this time.

1216
01:00:51.039 --> 01:00:55.519
<v Speaker 2>It's impossible, Right, I've spent two hundred and fifty hours

1217
01:00:55.760 --> 01:00:58.920
<v Speaker 2>or more a year in the woods. People think it's

1218
01:00:58.960 --> 01:01:02.039
<v Speaker 2>a lot. It's really not a lot. What eight thousand

1219
01:01:02.079 --> 01:01:03.679
<v Speaker 2>hours in a year and I've only spent a two

1220
01:01:03.719 --> 01:01:06.280
<v Speaker 2>hundred viegas. But basically, I'm out there every weekend. Then

1221
01:01:06.800 --> 01:01:09.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm looking at three maybe four camp outs per year.

1222
01:01:09.719 --> 01:01:12.639
<v Speaker 2>But I'm out there all the time, and I'm not

1223
01:01:12.719 --> 01:01:15.760
<v Speaker 2>getting something every weekend, and I'm in some pretty good

1224
01:01:15.800 --> 01:01:19.039
<v Speaker 2>Bible areas. But yet these people, they can go out

1225
01:01:19.039 --> 01:01:23.440
<v Speaker 2>there and it's always a picture from the video. Show

1226
01:01:23.519 --> 01:01:27.360
<v Speaker 2>us the video, Show me the video. Everybody knows me.

1227
01:01:27.559 --> 01:01:31.000
<v Speaker 2>If you watch my channel, it's all video. My goal

1228
01:01:31.280 --> 01:01:35.360
<v Speaker 2>is to catch this thing in motion, not a picture.

1229
01:01:36.000 --> 01:01:39.320
<v Speaker 2>Pictures are done, Pictures are over with stop throwing pictures

1230
01:01:39.360 --> 01:01:43.960
<v Speaker 2>out there. Ci AI that ended Pictures that ended it.

1231
01:01:44.480 --> 01:01:47.719
<v Speaker 2>Video ain't great either, but it's better than a picture.

1232
01:01:48.039 --> 01:01:51.519
<v Speaker 2>But if you can get something in motion moving bipedal

1233
01:01:51.840 --> 01:01:55.000
<v Speaker 2>least it can be analyzed better, like the Patterson Gimblin

1234
01:01:55.039 --> 01:01:57.719
<v Speaker 2>film or the Freeman footage, those two films. I'm all

1235
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<v Speaker 2>in on long time, I was borderline on I'm all

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<v Speaker 2>in on PG, always been all in on the Freeman footage.

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<v Speaker 2>So at ten second video of this thing walking bipedle

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01:02:09.400 --> 01:02:12.679
<v Speaker 2>gives you a lot of information. Jeff Mildrim was able

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<v Speaker 2>to get a lot of information just off the PG

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01:02:15.920 --> 01:02:19.519
<v Speaker 2>stel that convince me that thing is real. Forget pictures.

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<v Speaker 2>If you come to me, if there I got a picture, okay,

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01:02:22.920 --> 01:02:25.760
<v Speaker 2>I'll look at it. But all right, pictures are fake

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<v Speaker 2>too much.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we've mentioned it a couple of time. Let's talk

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01:02:28.239 --> 01:02:31.960
<v Speaker 1>about your YouTube channel. Let's talk about the BFFG. Where

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01:02:32.000 --> 01:02:34.400
<v Speaker 1>can people find your stuff? Talk a little bit about

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01:02:34.400 --> 01:02:37.079
<v Speaker 1>what the BFFG is and how you get involved with them.

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<v Speaker 2>It was actually founded by Jimmy Barr and Bobby White.

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01:02:41.280 --> 01:02:44.199
<v Speaker 2>Then they brought in Mike Blez and myself, so there's

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<v Speaker 2>four of us on this team. Now. Granted, people see

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01:02:47.760 --> 01:02:50.719
<v Speaker 2>me a lot on the channel. It's only because I

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01:02:50.880 --> 01:02:53.719
<v Speaker 2>have more free time than the other guys that I

1253
01:02:53.760 --> 01:02:55.719
<v Speaker 2>can get out there a whole lot more. But if

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<v Speaker 2>you go through the videos, there are times we are together.

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01:02:58.920 --> 01:03:02.000
<v Speaker 2>I film everybody, so everybody gets seen and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 2>But if the matter of it's just I can get

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01:03:04.320 --> 01:03:07.639
<v Speaker 2>out quite frequently. I don't have any restrictions in my

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01:03:07.719 --> 01:03:13.159
<v Speaker 2>life right now. But the YouTube channel is BFFG Bigfoot Research.

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<v Speaker 2>The Facebook page, we actually had two Facebook pages. I

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01:03:17.199 --> 01:03:19.920
<v Speaker 2>would just assume people just join boats because it's hard

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01:03:19.960 --> 01:03:21.960
<v Speaker 2>to explain why you should go to this one and

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01:03:22.000 --> 01:03:25.039
<v Speaker 2>not this one. But one is more you can post

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01:03:25.119 --> 01:03:27.159
<v Speaker 2>and you can do stuff. The other one is just

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01:03:27.320 --> 01:03:28.920
<v Speaker 2>that's all you can do. Is because well, we originally

1265
01:03:29.000 --> 01:03:30.760
<v Speaker 2>did it, he was realized he made some mistakes, so

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01:03:30.800 --> 01:03:33.159
<v Speaker 2>we had to redo it instead of fixing the mistake

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01:03:33.199 --> 01:03:36.039
<v Speaker 2>and just created another page. So now it's more interactive

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01:03:36.119 --> 01:03:38.400
<v Speaker 2>and you could post things. Everything has to be approved

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01:03:38.440 --> 01:03:42.079
<v Speaker 2>by admins period, there's no bull crap. Don't try to

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<v Speaker 2>sell T shirts on the page because we're not going

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01:03:43.679 --> 01:03:45.760
<v Speaker 2>to allow T shirts being sold. If I approve you,

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01:03:45.960 --> 01:03:48.280
<v Speaker 2>that means I'm giving my stamp of approval and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not going.

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<v Speaker 3>To do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Bigfoot four shots for the Facebook page. The YouTube channel

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01:03:52.039 --> 01:03:55.760
<v Speaker 2>is BFFG Bigfoot Research. It's a small channel. Like I said,

1277
01:03:55.880 --> 01:03:58.320
<v Speaker 2>it's real simple. I get out there once a week.

1278
01:03:58.800 --> 01:04:00.639
<v Speaker 2>I spend four or five hours out in the woods.

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<v Speaker 2>You like editing and stuff like that. If I can

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01:04:03.719 --> 01:04:05.920
<v Speaker 2>edit it down to a thirty minute forty minute video,

1281
01:04:06.119 --> 01:04:09.119
<v Speaker 2>I try to. Because people's attention stands are not that great.

1282
01:04:09.239 --> 01:04:11.760
<v Speaker 2>They like the shorts, so I do a lot of shorts.

1283
01:04:12.199 --> 01:04:14.599
<v Speaker 2>But the shorts are like advertisement. I'm just showing you

1284
01:04:14.760 --> 01:04:18.800
<v Speaker 2>the woods. I'm showing you the surroundings, the beautiful nature

1285
01:04:18.880 --> 01:04:21.400
<v Speaker 2>that I get to enjoy every day. Then I add

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01:04:21.440 --> 01:04:25.039
<v Speaker 2>some music to it so it's enjoyable sixty seconds of enjoyment.

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01:04:25.280 --> 01:04:27.719
<v Speaker 2>But I really want people to watch the video. That's

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01:04:27.800 --> 01:04:31.039
<v Speaker 2>the actual me out there in the research. I've caught

1289
01:04:31.559 --> 01:04:34.800
<v Speaker 2>some great stuff in the past with things I don't know,

1290
01:04:35.119 --> 01:04:37.440
<v Speaker 2>just running through the woods like a steam roller or

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01:04:38.119 --> 01:04:41.039
<v Speaker 2>how that happened fifty yards from me. Because I'm very

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01:04:41.119 --> 01:04:43.400
<v Speaker 2>sensitive when I come to vocals because of my first encounter.

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01:04:43.639 --> 01:04:46.360
<v Speaker 2>The vocals are like my key bank. That's what really

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01:04:46.400 --> 01:04:49.039
<v Speaker 2>gets my blood going. That's the YouTube channel and the

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01:04:49.079 --> 01:04:51.920
<v Speaker 2>Facebook Paige. But if anybody who ever wants to talk

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01:04:52.119 --> 01:04:55.119
<v Speaker 2>or have an encounter, or just wants to discuss anything,

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<v Speaker 2>they can reach us at BFFG Bigwoot Research at gmail

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<v Speaker 2>dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Awesome you guys, let go check it out, Richard. As always, Man,

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01:05:02.280 --> 01:05:04.119
<v Speaker 1>have had a blast talking to you. It was good

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01:05:04.159 --> 01:05:06.320
<v Speaker 1>to hang out with you down in Florida. I'm already

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01:05:06.360 --> 01:05:08.239
<v Speaker 1>looking forward to next year and coming back down. I

1303
01:05:08.280 --> 01:05:10.679
<v Speaker 1>had a blast at that event. Thanks for coming on

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01:05:10.800 --> 01:05:11.679
<v Speaker 1>and sharing your stuff with us.

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01:05:11.719 --> 01:05:15.679
<v Speaker 2>Man, wasn't it fun? It was fun. I just enjoyed it.

1306
01:05:15.760 --> 01:05:15.880
<v Speaker 1>You know.

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01:05:15.960 --> 01:05:17.760
<v Speaker 2>I came a couple of times, come over to your table,

1308
01:05:17.840 --> 01:05:21.039
<v Speaker 2>just shig, breeze. Man, oh Man, I was having a blast.

1309
01:05:21.440 --> 01:05:23.679
<v Speaker 2>When you're at a place where with light minded people,

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01:05:24.159 --> 01:05:27.960
<v Speaker 2>people all enjoying this subject, it's just a lot of fun.

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01:05:28.000 --> 01:05:29.800
<v Speaker 2>I met a lot of subscribers. I met a lot

1312
01:05:29.840 --> 01:05:32.039
<v Speaker 2>of new subscribers. I met a lot of people. You

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01:05:32.679 --> 01:05:34.320
<v Speaker 2>meet a lot of people. I've got your book. I

1314
01:05:34.400 --> 01:05:36.039
<v Speaker 2>bought your book. Yeah, I haven't got a chance to

1315
01:05:36.079 --> 01:05:37.760
<v Speaker 2>read it yet. Been busy ever since we got back,

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01:05:37.840 --> 01:05:40.159
<v Speaker 2>but I plan on it. It was a blast. It

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01:05:40.320 --> 01:05:42.760
<v Speaker 2>was my second year. I will definitely be out there

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01:05:42.840 --> 01:05:43.239
<v Speaker 2>next year.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, Yeah, I'm already looking forward.

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<v Speaker 3>To They say you don't got to go home, but

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01:05:50.800 --> 01:06:13.599
<v Speaker 3>you can't stay. All said, step stays.

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<v Speaker 4>Stick, step child, this child, that child, everything. Call me,

1323
01:06:27.719 --> 01:06:33.440
<v Speaker 4>ride back right back for joy from me. Enjoy staying right,

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01:06:35.599 --> 01:06:52.360
<v Speaker 4>you come in right away, stay.

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<v Speaker 1>Still stay.

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