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Speaker 2: we had a fun first hour, and I'm sorry you
Speaker 2: missed out on it, but we'll tray in here in
Speaker 2: the second hour. We'll try to recreate the magic, if
Speaker 2: we can call it that. But I do want to
Speaker 2: hit on I think the biggest story right now when
Speaker 2: it comes to college foototball, but it kind of doesn't
Speaker 2: seem like a huge story. And that is the decision
Speaker 2: that the NCAA Committee on Infractions made earlier today when
Speaker 2: they handed down a heavy suspension or a heavy penalty,
Speaker 2: I should say, including a suspension for someone who no
Speaker 2: longer coaches college football and will never coach college football again.
Speaker 2: So Jim Harball received a four year show cause, including
Speaker 2: a one season suspension from the instabla's Committee on Infractions
Speaker 2: in connection with violations of the COVID nineteen dead period
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one. I got to be honest with you,
Speaker 2: I wasn't even sure this. I didn't even know this
Speaker 2: was something they were still I didn't even know this
Speaker 2: was going on, meaning they were in the midst of
Speaker 2: a Committee on Infractions case. So a lot of people
Speaker 2: probably hear that, and you know, you're just driving around.
Speaker 2: You hear a national update and you're not really paying
Speaker 2: close attention, but you hear somebody getting a four year
Speaker 2: show cause and a one year suspension, and you hear Michigan.
Speaker 2: You just think, wow, man, that's what they get for
Speaker 2: sign stealing. I guess in this Netflix documentary that's about
Speaker 2: to come out, I guess Connor Stallions was singing he
Speaker 2: was telling on everybody. But no, this is actually for
Speaker 2: something not in not even close to I mean, it's
Speaker 2: something from many years ago that doesn't meet that. I mean,
Speaker 2: there's no even if like in a perfect world, I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: I'm distracted. There's a lot of noise going on out side.
Speaker 2: Was that coming through?
Speaker 3: I hear it too, and it wasn't coming through, but
Speaker 3: i's outside my hallway.
Speaker 2: To you rarely hear people being that loud right outside
Speaker 2: the door. Somebody must have made a really funny joke.
Speaker 2: I've completely lost my train of thought. But anyways, if
Speaker 2: that's if this was any other coach, any other program,
Speaker 2: and there was in fractions from recruiting violations during the
Speaker 2: dead period in twenty twenty one from COVID, I feel
Speaker 2: like it would have been a much lighter penalty, And
Speaker 2: you know, it probably would have happened long ago. Now,
Speaker 2: what I don't know is that did they do this
Speaker 2: because he's just stop cooperating with him because he doesn't
Speaker 2: owe them anything right, Like it's it's similar to whenever
Speaker 2: the guys who left Louisville were wanting were being hit
Speaker 2: up by the nc double A to talk about the
Speaker 2: Louisville instead A violations, they didn't have to. Mean, the
Speaker 2: NTABA doesn't have subpoena power. They can't make you talk. Now,
Speaker 2: I mean, the school probably will beg you to talk
Speaker 2: and cooperate because your decision not to cooperate hurts them.
Speaker 2: Even if even if it is something that you're gonna
Speaker 2: be honest about, that's a bad thing that is going
Speaker 2: to potentially be, you know, confirming the allegations they're they're
Speaker 2: you know, they're alleging you still need to cooperate or
Speaker 2: they're gonna look at that as you know, you're hiding
Speaker 2: something and they're gonna holp a school accountable. But like
Speaker 2: with Jim Harball, like he doesn't he doesn't care at
Speaker 2: all about the NC double A because he's never gonna
Speaker 2: coach in college football again. Even if they didn't give
Speaker 2: him this punishment. I don't think he was ever gonna
Speaker 2: coach in college foot again. He came to Michigan to
Speaker 2: do what he wanted to do, and that was bring
Speaker 2: them a national championship. He had to cheat to do it,
Speaker 2: but he did it, and he'll never admit it. But clearly,
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure he didn't get any fingerprints on it,
Speaker 2: like a lot of coaches in that position would do,
Speaker 2: right if they know there's some things going on that
Speaker 2: are giving them an advantage over others. They got others
Speaker 2: doing the dirty work, and they're not going to be
Speaker 2: involved in any communication about it. They're not going to
Speaker 2: have any fingerprints on it, as I said, because that's
Speaker 2: just what you would do if you're going to go
Speaker 2: about it, you know, the smartest way possible. So again,
Speaker 2: it feels like a big story. But to me, it
Speaker 2: also kind of feels like nonsense because inn s douaa.
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like, and I laid this out earlier,
Speaker 2: I really feel like they thought they did something big
Speaker 2: here that they put out a put everybody on notice. Hey,
Speaker 2: despite the perception of our organization right now, we're still
Speaker 2: out here and we will punish those who do not
Speaker 2: follow our rules. But you didn't. You punished somebody who
Speaker 2: like it. I can't even call it a punishment, Like
Speaker 2: that's like me getting suspended from the NBA. Oh bummer,
Speaker 2: because without that suspension, man, I'd be starting for the
Speaker 2: Denver Nuggets, Like what are you doing here? I also,
Speaker 2: to be fair, know that they've got to they you know,
Speaker 2: they've many times given out show cause and punishments that
Speaker 2: include suspensions for guys that aren't coaching because they got
Speaker 2: in trouble. But he's not coaching because he left, So
Speaker 2: I don't know. I just to me, I think this
Speaker 2: actually turns into another day where people find themselves pondering
Speaker 2: what are we doing here? Like we need the NABAA
Speaker 2: to do anything we need. We need the instuablea tournament,
Speaker 2: but we could probably do something without them. It would
Speaker 2: be the same. And life without the inc DOUBLEA tournament,
Speaker 2: the best sporting event in the world is a world
Speaker 2: I don't want to live in, but I'm sure we'd
Speaker 2: get by. I used to fear change a lot more
Speaker 2: than I do now, but with football, we don't need
Speaker 2: them at all. I mean, like the nstaas could exist
Speaker 2: if they only were governing the non revenue sports and
Speaker 2: the Division two, Division three level or the lower level
Speaker 2: of Division one. But right now, man, it is so
Speaker 2: clear this is a billion dollar business. Players are going
Speaker 2: to get paid a lot of money. There's going to
Speaker 2: be so much money coming into these universities from sponsorships
Speaker 2: they didn't previously have on the field, on their stadium,
Speaker 2: on their uniforms. Heck, the Big twelve is going to
Speaker 2: have a big sponsor on their referees during games, so
Speaker 2: everybody's going to be getting paid. There still is going
Speaker 2: to be rules in place, but we don't need the
Speaker 2: instead a A to do it. Have the power for and
Speaker 2: I guess we'll throw Notre Dame in there too, have
Speaker 2: the power forward. Notre Dame vote on somebody to be
Speaker 2: the commissioner of the college football. You know, we don't
Speaker 2: have to call it college football because it's really not
Speaker 2: college football anymore. This is this is very much pro sports.
Speaker 2: So there'd still be rules in play, should still have
Speaker 2: to abide by. You still have to do things on
Speaker 2: the up and up. But like inst double A's just
Speaker 2: not then they're irrelevant anymore, and they have been for
Speaker 2: a while, to be honest with you, and their decision
Speaker 2: today just proves what we've already known, and that is
Speaker 2: that they're out of touch and they're delusional if they
Speaker 2: think that that, if they think what they did today
Speaker 2: really did anything, they're delusional. All right, again, it's Coffee
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Speaker 2: for women's college basketball. Speaking of the East of LA,
Speaker 2: the Division one Board of Directors propos a new revenue
Speaker 2: distribution model for women's hoops. So this is similar to
Speaker 2: what currently exists with the men's basketball tournament. So this proposal,
Speaker 2: if approved, would allocate a pool of money that starts
Speaker 2: at fifteen million for the upcoming INSUAA Tournament next season,
Speaker 2: and then it's going to increase to twenty five million
Speaker 2: by the twenty twenty seven to twenty eight tournament. So
Speaker 2: the distribution formula, it's the same thing as the men's tournament.
Speaker 2: And what this does it aims to reward teams based
Speaker 2: on how they perform in the Big Dance, which obviously
Speaker 2: there's been a long standing disparity in how the NAA
Speaker 2: distributes revenue between men's and women's sports. So women's basketball,
Speaker 2: and I hope it's sustainable because I do think clearly
Speaker 2: you had a real explosion of just elite talent that
Speaker 2: became famous in a way I've never seen a women's
Speaker 2: college basketball player become famous. And I'm not just talking
Speaker 2: about Caitlyn Clark. I mean Angel Rees also became like
Speaker 2: a very I mean, she's a celebrity, and it's you know,
Speaker 2: because she's a basketball player, but you know, she's known
Speaker 2: by people and is in circles with people of celebrity
Speaker 2: status that probably never watch women's basketball, and if they
Speaker 2: do now, it's probably because of the attention that you know,
Speaker 2: the stars of college basketball the last couple of years
Speaker 2: have brought to the game. I mean, you still have
Speaker 2: some really good players out there. The young lady at USC,
Speaker 2: I forget her name, but she's I mean, she's got
Speaker 2: a chance to be one of the all time greats. Obviously,
Speaker 2: is it Paige Buker's Is that her name? She's back
Speaker 2: at Yukon's. She's been at star for quite some time.
Speaker 2: So the women's tournament man women's college basketball. I mean
Speaker 2: I went from somebody who really only watched when Jeff
Speaker 2: Wallas's team was playing and really only kept up with
Speaker 2: it when it comes to how what's going on impacts
Speaker 2: Louisville women's basketball, and that will still I'm not gonna
Speaker 2: lie to you and act like I'm all in watching
Speaker 2: a ton of women's hoops just year round, because I'm not.
Speaker 2: But the entertainment value has gotten has gotten better. And
Speaker 2: it's not to say that you know, you won't find
Speaker 2: some poor play here and there, but I mean, the
Speaker 2: highest level of women's college basketball in recent years I
Speaker 2: think has been a pretty damn good product, and the
Speaker 2: viewership has shown that. And if you want to give
Speaker 2: all that credit to Kaitlin Clark and some of it
Speaker 2: to Angel, that's fine. But like maybe if you don't
Speaker 2: ever see a player like Kaitlyn Clark again, which maybe
Speaker 2: you won't, maybe the attention that she and the other
Speaker 2: stars in the last few years brought to the game
Speaker 2: created fans that would not have existed without them, if
Speaker 2: that makes sense. Or speaking of watching games, this is
Speaker 2: one of those studies that I'm interested in, but I
Speaker 2: question how accurate it really is as far as how
Speaker 2: they went about it. But this study was put together
Speaker 2: by Talker Research on behalf of squad Locker, and it's
Speaker 2: to determine how many games a year die hard sports
Speaker 2: fans watch. They call them raging sports fans, which I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm a big sports fan. I don't know where the
Speaker 2: rage comes in. I mean, I have a rage if
Speaker 2: my team loses. In fact, I have more rage now
Speaker 2: if like I lose a bet that was a bad
Speaker 2: beat or something like that. But they say that sports
Speaker 2: fans watch one hundred and twenty games per year. So
Speaker 2: they pulled two thousand American sports fanatics to uncover just
Speaker 2: how emotionally invested fans are, how much they pay to
Speaker 2: follow along and represent their teams, and how sports have
Speaker 2: given fans have returned on their emotional and financial investments.
Speaker 2: So the survey split sports fans into different categories depending
Speaker 2: on their level of commitment to their team or player.
Speaker 2: So it says here a third of the respondents thirty
Speaker 2: two percent said they're moderate fans who watch a few
Speaker 2: sports games here and there. Half forty eight percent labeled
Speaker 2: themselves as big fans who watch most games, and a fifth,
Speaker 2: which is twenty percent, are all in and self identified
Speaker 2: as raging fans who watch every single game they can.
Speaker 2: So it says here, being a raging fan comes with
Speaker 2: a price tag. Raging fans, again, these are the most
Speaker 2: die hard or they report they spend on average eight
Speaker 2: hundred and seventy nine dollars and forty cents on tickets
Speaker 2: to live sporting events, concessions, apparel, collectibles, memorabilia, and streaming
Speaker 2: services per year. I mean, I per year. I mean,
Speaker 2: I've spent more than that, but I don't, I mean
Speaker 2: don't even I don't even pay for tickets to like
Speaker 2: Louisville games, Like I don't feel like that, Like I
Speaker 2: don't think that's a lot. And again that's not because
Speaker 2: I'm like, you know, eight hundred and seventy nine bucks.
Speaker 2: You know, I spent that on lunch today. That's that's
Speaker 2: not the way I'm trying to come off. But like,
Speaker 2: think about it per year, Like if you go to
Speaker 2: a game, you go to one game, and you go
Speaker 2: and you get concessions, what are you spending one hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty bucks? I mean, maybe I'm out of touch
Speaker 2: with the cost of things, but last I check, things
Speaker 2: are pretty expensive. So per year, I mean again, streaming services,
Speaker 2: it's tough to know, right because right now there's not
Speaker 2: a standalone sports streaming service, right, So if you pay
Speaker 2: for YouTube TV, I mean I only watch it for sports.
Speaker 2: So therefore I guess I would say annually, and gosh,
Speaker 2: what I'm paying for YouTube TV now, I think it's
Speaker 2: like sixty bucks a month, so times that by twelve. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean I just feel like that that number is off.
Speaker 2: If you go to games like even somewhat like even
Speaker 2: if you go to like three games a year, I
Speaker 2: feel like you're spending more than that on just being
Speaker 2: there at the game and concessions, parking and all that stuff.
Speaker 2: So U And look, I don't watch really any game
Speaker 2: from start to finish unless it's a game that features
Speaker 2: a team that I really really care about, or it's
Speaker 2: a big game like a national championship game, a playoff game,
Speaker 2: something like that. And if it's a game, I bet
Speaker 2: on I'm not watching the whole thing unless again, we're
Speaker 2: talking about a standalone prime time you know, Super Bowl
Speaker 2: matchup kind of thing where this you know, the conference
Speaker 2: championships that kind of thing, and with our phones, Like,
Speaker 2: are we really watching that closely? The only again maybe
Speaker 2: this is just me, but the only game I'm I'm
Speaker 2: literally dialed in from start to finish if I can,
Speaker 2: you know, maybe maybe something happens where I got to
Speaker 2: you know, I gotta go help my kid with something
Speaker 2: like you know, like life can get in the way
Speaker 2: a little bit. But the only games that I would
Speaker 2: really care to make it an appointment to view and
Speaker 2: make sure I have, you know, my all of my
Speaker 2: attention focused on the game is is like a Louisville game,
Speaker 2: and that would have to honestly be like a big game.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm gonna watch every game they play, but
Speaker 2: when they're playing Popcorn State the but Hoole Tech in
Speaker 2: a non conference matchup and they're up fifty, I mean,
Speaker 2: I might, you know, pop open my phone and miss
Speaker 2: a few plays here and there because you know it's
Speaker 2: that kind of game. I mean, are you with me? John? Absolutely?
Speaker 3: What was the number that you said of the amount
Speaker 3: of games watched per year per fan?
Speaker 2: Was that on? Was that one of your stance? Yeah?
Speaker 2: So one hundred and twenty games per year. Let's see,
Speaker 2: let me double check the numbers here. So the one
Speaker 2: third of the respondents said that they they watch a
Speaker 2: few sports games here and there, which I don't know
Speaker 2: what the hell that means. The diehards labeled themselves as
Speaker 2: big fans and they watch almost every game they can,
Speaker 2: whereas twenty percent are they all in and say they
Speaker 2: watch every actual I'm sorry. The twenty percent is the
Speaker 2: ones who say they watch every single game they can.
Speaker 2: So when they say one hundred and twenty games per year,
Speaker 2: they don't really say, like.
Speaker 3: Like what sport or anything else.
Speaker 2: They don't say what sport. They don't say, uh, they
Speaker 2: don't say you know how that's divided, right, meaning like
Speaker 2: do the diehards watch one hundred and twenty? Do the
Speaker 2: raging fans watch one hundred and twenty? Orre they just
Speaker 2: saying that collectively, you know, because.
Speaker 3: When I think about what I'm dialed into, if I
Speaker 3: if I'm just putting Indiana basketball and football the two
Speaker 3: biggest things same here too, that probably what's that maybe
Speaker 3: fifty games something like that. Yeah, if that may maybe
Speaker 3: not even that much.
Speaker 2: So like put it this way, if Kentucky is on,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna watch, but not watch the way I watched Louisville.
Speaker 2: So did I still watch? You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like just to say you watched the game? There's a
Speaker 2: lot of ways that could be interpreted, right, Like did
Speaker 2: you check it out and keep up with what was
Speaker 2: going on but not watch every play? Did you sit
Speaker 2: there the entire time? Like, for example, if Kentucky's playing
Speaker 2: somebody at noon and you know, Louisville's not on until
Speaker 2: the night, and I have Kentucky's game on at noon
Speaker 2: and you know, at the end of the first quarter,
Speaker 2: they're up three touchdowns, and I feel like they're going
Speaker 2: to cruise and it won't be like a potential upset
Speaker 2: that I you know, that I'll get to enjoy. I'm
Speaker 2: probably not going to watch another second of it. Technically,
Speaker 2: did I still watch it? You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like this is and here and the other thing too.
Speaker 3: If you include like NBA or MLB, those those seasons
Speaker 3: have eighty plus games, one hundred and something plus games,
Speaker 3: So I mean, if you're dialed into one of those teams,
Speaker 3: I mean, maybe that number does check out.
Speaker 2: I'm sure there are some people out there that do this,
Speaker 2: but I have a hard time believing people who claim
Speaker 2: that they watch every game of a baseball season or
Speaker 2: an NBA season, Like I just I mean, I don't
Speaker 2: know how you would be able to do that unless
Speaker 2: you genuinely have no life.
Speaker 3: Maybe one of those things where they maybe they treat
Speaker 3: it kind of like a podcast, like they're on so
Speaker 3: often that maybe while you're driving just just off on
Speaker 3: the phone. Is just there's background noise and you're trying
Speaker 3: to take it in while you're driving from point A
Speaker 3: to point B.
Speaker 2: Right, So this is a little bit of more of
Speaker 2: a this is just some more context to the to
Speaker 2: the study here, it says, looking at how playing a
Speaker 2: sport growing up influences sports fandom, seventy one percent of
Speaker 2: sports fans reported they played sports as a youth, and
Speaker 2: twenty eight percent played at the college level, and those
Speaker 2: who played sports growing up, almost half said that they
Speaker 2: dreamed of playing sports as a professional. Of course, that's
Speaker 2: a no brainer, It says that, and it turns out
Speaker 2: that turning on the TV or attending a match has
Speaker 2: a real life impact on fans. Thirty percent of responding
Speaker 2: supported they like to pick a sport they used to
Speaker 2: play after watching the pros, and a fifth even want
Speaker 2: to try a new sports see. Like, I mean, when
Speaker 2: I think of people watching sports like NFL, college football,
Speaker 2: college basketball, NBA women's college basketball, I mean, MLB whatever,
Speaker 2: maybe I don't ever think of the behavior to be, Oh,
Speaker 2: this will get more people interested in playing. Well, I
Speaker 2: mean you can go play. I mean, if you watch
Speaker 2: the NFL every Sunday, are you inclined to like go
Speaker 2: buy yourself a helmet and go find a field with
Speaker 2: people and like, what do we like? I've never once
Speaker 2: had any interest in determining that type of behavior. From
Speaker 2: a fan, meaning when they watch, oh, I need to go.
Speaker 2: I need to go get in shape because I'm going
Speaker 2: to go out there and try to make it in
Speaker 2: the league. Like, this is a stupid study. I'm sorry
Speaker 2: I brought it up. It's stupid. What a wasted time.
Speaker 2: I apologize.
Speaker 3: It wasn't a waste of time. Why is everything going
Speaker 3: to be a wasted time?
Speaker 1: Sometimes?
Speaker 2: I mean it just I just feel like it's stupid.
Speaker 2: It is the way they went about it, because again,
Speaker 2: watching something is so loosely defined.
Speaker 3: So I thought whatever you said initially before you explain it,
Speaker 3: that it meant that the impact of watching a team
Speaker 3: for the first time like influences your fandom.
Speaker 2: I think there's truth to that for sure, Oh of course.
Speaker 2: But like if you're polling, like if you're but if
Speaker 2: you're asking people now, if you're watching the NFL now
Speaker 2: as a grown man, how is that going to make
Speaker 2: you want.
Speaker 3: To go play football? In terms of playing it? That's
Speaker 3: that's ridiculous.
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean, look, I actually find it fascinating. Maybe
Speaker 2: that's not the right word, but like, I think it's
Speaker 2: quite clear when you're a kid, when when the emotional
Speaker 2: attachment to a team hits you right, because it's just
Speaker 2: like my son, he's four, and it's I mean, I
Speaker 2: kind of had to tell them that, you know, the
Speaker 2: lot familiar in the Ville game, they tied and they
Speaker 2: all hugged it out at the end. I didn't know.
Speaker 2: I didn't, I didn't. I didn't tell them about the
Speaker 2: Hawk tour from Nanu in the in the blowout, that was.
Speaker 3: That was you know, deer first like rage moment as
Speaker 3: a U of lhow.
Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely yeah, whenever Louisville lost. Uh in when Louisville
Speaker 2: lost in the n c DOUAA tournament. But I was
Speaker 2: so young, it wasn't rage, It was sad tears. Uh
Speaker 2: it was. It was when Louisvill lost in the NCAA
Speaker 2: Tournament in nineteen ninety seven to to North Carolina and
Speaker 2: Duan Whet got hurt. I made all the way to
Speaker 2: the Elite eight. The team had Anton Jamison, Vince Carter,
Speaker 2: and I was really sad because at that point I
Speaker 2: was just at the age to where like I'd watched
Speaker 2: Louisvill basketball before then, and I was very much a fan,
Speaker 2: and you know, all I talked about was Louisville basketball.
Speaker 2: I remember learning as a young kid at like six
Speaker 2: and seven about players that played in the eighties before
Speaker 2: I was around, just because I was obsessed. I mean,
Speaker 2: I have a pretty I have a pretty obsessive and
Speaker 2: addictive personality to where even as a kid, like I
Speaker 2: was all in on whatever, I was all in on.
Speaker 2: I was all in on it. But it was more
Speaker 2: of just like like at the young age, it wasn't
Speaker 2: really about the competitive side of it. It was just
Speaker 2: about like, man, this is awesome, Like I love this team,
Speaker 2: and you know, I e whn they would lose, like
Speaker 2: I'd be bummed, but like they could have lost at
Speaker 2: a certain age, they could go over thirty two and
Speaker 2: I would be like, I don't care. I love them.
Speaker 2: These are my favorite players. Like I would just I
Speaker 2: would be a young kid. But once I saw them
Speaker 2: go deep in the tournament at the age of eight
Speaker 2: seven eight, that was when it was like, Okay, this
Speaker 2: is pretty special, Like they're doing something really cool here.
Speaker 2: I saw the bracket. I'm like, oh wow, like, man,
Speaker 2: they were only a few winns away from cutting down
Speaker 2: some nets or something. I'm not even sure if I
Speaker 2: knew that was the thing at the time, but that
Speaker 2: was when that was the first emotional thing for me
Speaker 2: to where I was like, all right, this is sad,
Speaker 2: this is I don't know if I want to do
Speaker 2: this anymore. I don't want to feel this pain again
Speaker 2: for you. Go ahead and tell me yours, cause it's
Speaker 2: going to make me feel But I'm prepared. I'm prepared.
Speaker 3: And I don't know that this is the first one,
Speaker 3: but this is the earliest one that I remember. But
Speaker 3: when when Indiana this was the twenty I guess twelve
Speaker 3: or thirteen team, the team that won the Big Ten
Speaker 3: but cut down the nets after they lost to Ohio
Speaker 3: State when they lost that game.
Speaker 2: I don't know what it was.
Speaker 3: I think I was just so just into it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for whatever reason.
Speaker 3: And that's the first time I ever cried watching an
Speaker 3: Indiana team lose. And to top it all off, that's
Speaker 3: when they cut down the nets after a loss and
Speaker 3: got made fun of.
Speaker 2: Well, that was that was a special team for you,
Speaker 2: because that was honestly the first team they had that
Speaker 2: you were old enough to know what was going.
Speaker 3: On, and they were really good well, and you saw
Speaker 3: a lot of those players go through the really hard times,
Speaker 3: the six win season, ten win season, that type of stuff.
Speaker 2: It was the breakthrough for Cream. Yes, you know, they
Speaker 2: still had a good run. They just came up a
Speaker 2: little short in the tournament, and they still won the
Speaker 2: Big Ten regular season, didn't they. Yes, Yeah, I quick break.
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Speaker 3: I've seen Keith Urban at the Young Center before.
Speaker 2: He's talented. Man, I don't consider him to be like country,
Speaker 2: but I don't really know if that matters or.
Speaker 3: He's one of those who veered over from the traditional
Speaker 3: country and like, you know, the early two thousand since
Speaker 3: to the pop style bro country into the twenty tens. See,
Speaker 3: I don't maybe calling him bro country, bro country, but
Speaker 3: it's still more pop country nowadays.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I kind of find name as one of those
Speaker 2: guys that I don't know, I don't know where to
Speaker 2: put him, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: So him and Brad Paisley two of the best country guitarists.
Speaker 3: I feel like.
Speaker 2: Brad Paisley, I just feel like he's always been really
Speaker 2: really corny and lame.
Speaker 3: And they're both very corny, but Here's the thing though,
Speaker 3: what they get. They can both play guitar very.
Speaker 2: Well well like and I would totally trust your judgment
Speaker 2: on that. I would have no clue although I have
Speaker 2: heard both are great guitar players before. But like some
Speaker 2: of Brad Paisley's songs were just like, look you there,
Speaker 2: I gotta buy. Yeah, it's just it's like, honestly, it's
Speaker 2: kind of cringe for me. With Keith Urban. I don't
Speaker 2: feel like there's really been ever any like, not to
Speaker 2: say I've liked every one of his songs.
Speaker 3: Yeah, fell in Love in the Back of a cop Car.
Speaker 3: That's a little corny and cringey.
Speaker 2: Is that is that Urban?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Is it?
Speaker 2: I didn't think I knew that. If I heard it,
Speaker 2: I probably would be that. Ye, clearly that's Keith Urban.
Speaker 2: Yeah I didn't. Are you sure that's him? I'll take
Speaker 2: your word for it. Serious, Yeah, I mean I'm looking
Speaker 2: up his discography.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: Here, Also Blue Ain't Your Color? I think that's one
Speaker 3: of his two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's more like a love song.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But I feel like he's one of those guys that,
Speaker 2: although country has clearly been the you know, if you
Speaker 2: look at all of his like all of his hits
Speaker 2: and you go to like which ones got it charted?
Speaker 2: It's mostly country, So I mean that's that's what it's mostly.
Speaker 1: Know.
Speaker 2: Gosh, he's got Where the Black Top Ends? That song
Speaker 2: is twenty three years old. That makes me feel sold.
Speaker 2: Do you know that song?
Speaker 3: That's from what his debut album?
Speaker 2: But for the grace of God, God, he's good man.
Speaker 2: He has some really good songs. And now these songs
Speaker 2: are old. We're talking twenty plus years old raining on Sunday.
Speaker 2: Like I don't maybe it's just a different time in country, but.
Speaker 3: Like crazy, so he started off like in the nineties
Speaker 3: era that you love, and he's kind of just always
Speaker 3: been around.
Speaker 2: Days go by, you'll think of me, who wouldn't want
Speaker 2: to be me? Making memories of us? Like he's really good.
Speaker 2: I would. I've never seen him live and I've never
Speaker 2: really had any interest, but he's He's got a lot
Speaker 2: of hits, man. And that is one of the things
Speaker 2: now that I'm adding to the list John of things
Speaker 2: that make me feel old is to see when a
Speaker 2: song came out. I'm like, yeah, that's four or five
Speaker 2: years old. No, it's plus years old. Crazy to me?
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Speaker 2: All right, we were talking earlier about the you know,
Speaker 2: the raging sports fan and how much money you spend
Speaker 2: per year on tickets and subscriptions to watch games, merchandise, concessions,
Speaker 2: all that stuff. And appreciate the effort on that study,
Speaker 2: but I didn't find it to be super accurate or
Speaker 2: you know, useful. But somebody did send this in which
Speaker 2: doesn't fully give any update to the survey we referenced
Speaker 2: but I was talking about tickets, like if if you
Speaker 2: go to a few games a year, I mean, you're
Speaker 2: going to be spending a lot of money on tickets
Speaker 2: because they're not cheap. But this is a list of
Speaker 2: the most defensive tickets for games this year for the
Speaker 2: upcoming twenty twenty four college football season, and right now,
Speaker 2: the most expensive ticket by ninety eight bucks is Texas
Speaker 2: and Texas a and m first game as a conference foes.
Speaker 2: In fact, when the last time they played each other?
Speaker 2: I guess, gosh, I bet it's been been well over
Speaker 2: ten years then so the age. So the average price
Speaker 2: for that ticket to get into that game is six
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty five dollars. Army Navies coming in at
Speaker 2: number two. Kind of a surprise there at five hundred
Speaker 2: and twenty seven dollars. Then you have Texas and Michigan.
Speaker 2: When do they play? That's early, it's an early game.
Speaker 2: It's like is that week one? Maybe week two?
Speaker 3: I think it's week two.
Speaker 2: And then Texas and Oklahoma that's just you know, an
Speaker 2: annual rivalry game that is going to be big time.
Speaker 2: I'm sure that's an expensive ticket every single year. And
Speaker 2: now this is a conference matchup, and man, seeing these
Speaker 2: two schools next to each other, knowing that it's it's
Speaker 2: not a non conference game, is weird to me. Ohio
Speaker 2: State and Oregon two teams that I'm pretty sure everybody
Speaker 2: has in the top five, certainly top ten, and it's
Speaker 2: gonna be a big ten matchup, and the cost for
Speaker 2: that is three hundred and sixty five dollars. So the
Speaker 2: rest of this list features, you know, the big brands,
Speaker 2: Notre Dame and A and M. That's three fifty nine,
Speaker 2: Georgia and Texas three to fifty five, Tennessee and Georgia
Speaker 2: three forty eight. Alabama and Tennessee is three thirty nine.
Speaker 2: And then this is random as hell Colorado and Cincinnati
Speaker 2: three hundred and three dollars.
Speaker 3: Where's it held at?
Speaker 2: I would assume it's going to be held at at
Speaker 2: it in Boulder, But I don't know the Colorado connection,
Speaker 2: Like does Colorado not have any other games against good teams?
Speaker 2: I mean, Scott's head have won three games last year?
Speaker 2: Didn't he four games? Maybe? Like why would that be
Speaker 2: the game the Colorado fans have, you know, have.
Speaker 3: Maybe there's a special promotion We're I'm aware, Ever, like
Speaker 3: a weird halftime show or something.
Speaker 2: I'm secured, maak get a weird Uh. This is the
Speaker 2: list of the top twenty five. And what if I
Speaker 2: told you that the Indiana Hoosiers have a game in
Speaker 2: the top in the top fifteen for non conference? No,
Speaker 2: just any game. I mean these these are these are
Speaker 2: not this is this is conference or not. This is
Speaker 2: just the most expensive ticket prices for any game. Man,
Speaker 2: So I guess that's probably. Is it really just Ohio
Speaker 2: State or Michigan? It's Northwestern?
Speaker 3: Really?
Speaker 2: Now? Is this the year where Northwestern is playing in
Speaker 2: their new arena or the new stadium.
Speaker 3: It's a temporary stadium and it's right next to the
Speaker 3: whatever body of water that is that they're up against
Speaker 3: in Chicago.
Speaker 2: Have you seen the.
Speaker 3: It looks really cool, but they're playing in something that
Speaker 3: looks like a high school, you know, stadium that was
Speaker 3: just put together type of thing for this year.
Speaker 2: I'm googling Northwestern football Indiana to it's Indiana Hoosiers at Northwestern.
Speaker 2: This is on October the fifth, and it is in Chicago,
Speaker 2: And yeah, you can get in for one hundred and
Speaker 2: ninety five dollars right now.
Speaker 3: It's because they know that hoo's your nation is going
Speaker 3: to be sicked up by this.
Speaker 2: That is so weird for them to be included in there,
Speaker 2: because every other game is like, you know, Colorado and
Speaker 2: Sinccenati's kind of weird too. But you got Georgia Bama, Auburn, Georgia, Florida,
Speaker 2: Florida State, Michigan with Washington, which of course will be
Speaker 2: a conference game and it'll be a rematch at the
Speaker 2: national championship.
Speaker 3: One thing that could explain the high ticket price for
Speaker 3: Indian Northwestern is that there is a large alumni base
Speaker 3: of Indiana in Chicago, and maybe there's expecting because of
Speaker 3: the unique stadium that there will be a lot of Indiana.
Speaker 2: A multiple capacity. The temporary stadium is ye very small,
Speaker 2: and that's what it is. Then that's got to be
Speaker 2: why that would be like that. But anyways, just referencing
Speaker 2: this graphic that is from this CFB report account, which
Speaker 2: is one of those face accounts that gets a ton
Speaker 2: of traction with just different graphics they put together, like
Speaker 2: this one here that has the number of wins against
Speaker 2: top ten teams since twenty fourteen, so of course that's
Speaker 2: the era that is the College Football Playoff era. So
Speaker 2: the three teams that have the most top ten wins
Speaker 2: in the last ten seasons. Alabama has twenty three, Ohio
Speaker 2: State is twenty two, and Georgia has twenty. I don't
Speaker 2: really think there's any big surprises here, although let me
Speaker 2: give you the list here just in order. I mentioned
Speaker 2: those three BAM, Ohio State, Georgia, LSU has seventeen, Clemson fourteen,
Speaker 2: Oregon ten, Michigan nine. Michigan State has nine top ten wins.
Speaker 2: That just seems weird to me, doesn't it? Like that
Speaker 2: just seems off.
Speaker 3: I mean, they did have a big year when they
Speaker 3: got to the College Football Playoff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they must have also had some upsets along
Speaker 2: the way that really were outliers, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Mark Dantonio, when he was the head coach in Michigan State,
Speaker 3: they were normally so whenever it was the Big Ten East,
Speaker 3: it was normally Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State, and Michigan State.
Speaker 3: Those were like the really good year in and year
Speaker 3: out opponents. But when Mark D'Antonio was no longer the
Speaker 3: head coach, they kind of took a step back.
Speaker 2: Did they go straight from him to Tucker?
Speaker 3: I believe so.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sense. So anyways, Louisville came in with
Speaker 2: three top ten wins, which Florida State that was certainly one,
Speaker 2: and outside of that, I mean, I don't really remember
Speaker 2: where the other other two would have come from. I mean,
Speaker 2: you'd beat Notre Dame last year, but they didn't finish
Speaker 2: top ten. Who am I forgetting? I feel like a
Speaker 2: real idiot now because I'm sure people are screaming, don't
Speaker 2: you remember that huge win when we knocked off a
Speaker 2: top ten team, because I don't really remember the last
Speaker 2: ten seasons, you know, fourteen that was gosh, that was
Speaker 2: Bobby's first year here and they didn't have any I
Speaker 2: mean that that was the knock on Bobby when Bobby
Speaker 2: was here until twenty sixteen when Lamar won the Heisman.
Speaker 2: I mean, they did beat a really good Florida State
Speaker 2: team that ended up actually being a top ten team
Speaker 2: when it was all said and done that year, But
Speaker 2: I don't remember the other big ones unless they're counting
Speaker 2: it to when you played and not really where they
Speaker 2: were at the end of the season, which I guess
Speaker 2: that's probably what they're doing anyway, because you can't I mean,
Speaker 2: if their top ten when you play them. That's all
Speaker 2: you can control, right If they aren't when you don't
Speaker 2: play them, it's you know, so Kentucky had won, which
Speaker 2: that has to be the when that they had, it's
Speaker 2: one of these two wins. When they beat Florida in
Speaker 2: twenty eighteen, I think it was. That Florida team was
Speaker 2: pretty good. I think they might have been top ten
Speaker 2: at the time. And then when they beat Penn State
Speaker 2: in that bowl game they were They were also, I
Speaker 2: think a top ten team at that time. So one
Speaker 2: of those two would be their one. Here are the
Speaker 2: schools that have zero. Let's see Rutgers, Texas Tech, Colorado, SMU,
Speaker 2: Wake Forest, Ucla, Maryland, and Vandy Indiana has won and
Speaker 2: that would have to be one of their COVID wins, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, probably what it was Penn State, they were number
Speaker 3: eight to start the season.
Speaker 2: That's a big win.
Speaker 3: It was a big win.
Speaker 2: All right, quick break, we'll come back and wrap up
Speaker 2: the four o'clock hour. Keep this thing going along. Something
Speaker 2: else I wanted to get to at some point that
Speaker 2: I mentioned earlier in the show that I kind of
Speaker 2: forgot about is a list of jobs in the Olympics
Speaker 2: that you would have never guessed existed that are kind
Speaker 2: of wild and kind of cool, to be honest with you.
Speaker 2: So we'll get to that, and we'll also get back
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Speaker 2: out right here on Sports Talk seven ninety. I kind
Speaker 2: of felt like it was disrespectful to put those two
Speaker 2: in the same conversation, and you only did it because
Speaker 2: you're speaking of their ability to play guitar, not hits.
Speaker 2: But Keith Urban is, I mean, Keith Urban is so
Speaker 2: much better than Brad Paisley in my in my opinion
Speaker 2: that I'm sure nobody cares, but when it comes to music.
Speaker 2: But John asked me for a corny Brad Paisley's song,
Speaker 2: and I said, yeah, I have to. I mean, I
Speaker 2: had a couple. I'm like, I got to look them
Speaker 2: up to see and yeah, this one, this one.
Speaker 3: I like to check you for tics. That's another one.
Speaker 2: I mean, when you're late, every sound just like him,
Speaker 2: don't know, I mean, did you.
Speaker 3: Ever have a MySpace by the way he references MySpace.
Speaker 2: Oh, sure, of course, back in high school. Absolutely because that.
Speaker 3: Was back when I was too young to have that
Speaker 3: kind of thing. I'm curious.
Speaker 2: I'm sure that was what did you did you know
Speaker 2: like what it was at the time. You were probably
Speaker 2: too young then, weren't you.
Speaker 3: I had older like I guess cousins, family members who
Speaker 3: used MySpace.
Speaker 2: You were probably a really little kid, weren't you. What
Speaker 2: was like the.
Speaker 3: Prime year two thousand and four, it sort of been
Speaker 3: around seven years old.
Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty young. He also had a song called Accidental Racist.
Speaker 2: I don't remember that one man. Yeah, I haven't heard
Speaker 2: the pants and it's about like who wears the pants
Speaker 2: and the relationship famous people. I don't know if I
Speaker 2: remember that one. The check you for ticks is certainly
Speaker 2: up there. I'm still like guys.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I think I think that. What I like
Speaker 3: about Brad Paisley is that I don't think he takes
Speaker 3: himself too seriously. I think that kind of that's the
Speaker 3: clearly to it.
Speaker 2: But like it, there's a fun line in being funny
Speaker 2: and corny, you know what I mean? Like there's a
Speaker 2: huge out there. Is he still around? I mean he's
Speaker 2: not dead, but like I haven't heard anything new from him.
Speaker 3: He hasn't had Let's see, he hasn't had a charting
Speaker 3: hit since two thousand. Let's see Tire twenty twenty, he
Speaker 3: had a sing a song called No I and Beer.
Speaker 3: He He's had songs come out since then. That's the
Speaker 3: only one that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe that maybe that shtick has faded a little bit.
Speaker 2: Uh So, real quick before we get to the top
Speaker 2: of the hour, here the latest on the T and
Speaker 2: T crew right the inside, the NBA group, Chuck Shaq,
Speaker 2: Ernie Kenny, those guys big new yesterday as Charles Barkley
Speaker 2: announced he's not retiring and he's going to stick with TNT.
Speaker 2: So the question I asked is, like, what are they
Speaker 2: gonna do? And now the Wall Street Journal has reported
Speaker 2: that they could turn that studio show into sort of
Speaker 2: a all sports like a you know, or they do
Speaker 2: what they do, but not just about the NBA, but
Speaker 2: about all sports. And I'm not saying that would be
Speaker 2: terrible and it might be good. I just I don't know.
Speaker 2: I feel like that will be a forced thing like that.
Speaker 2: I don't think you can do that naturally and it
Speaker 2: not seem uncomfortable. I mean, let's be honest, there's a
Speaker 2: lot of people who don't really think that those guys
Speaker 2: are that in tune with actual NBA basketball. I mean,
Speaker 2: I respect their opinions on basketball, but the only one
Speaker 2: up there that's really talking a lot of x's and
Speaker 2: o's even really at all, is Kenny, and he's kind
Speaker 2: of the character that I think people don't value that much,
Speaker 2: but he does bring that aspect to it. He talks
Speaker 2: way more ex's and o's than Chuck and Shack, and
Speaker 2: Chuck and Shack are legendary players and they share opinions,
Speaker 2: and I actually think, you know, nerding out too much
Speaker 2: on x's and o's is not a good way to
Speaker 2: develop a humongous base that they have for that show,
Speaker 2: because that can really just that'll just turn people off
Speaker 2: that don't really want to get into the into the
Speaker 2: weeds on basketball, and they don't do that. They're entertainers
Speaker 2: their personalities. So with that said, it could work, but
Speaker 2: I don't know. I've here's what I don't know the
Speaker 2: answer to. I love those guys. When I see them
Speaker 2: on the NCAA tournament coverage, I get upset because they
Speaker 2: don't know anything about college basketball and they don't care,
Speaker 2: and they don't hide the fact that they know nothing.
Speaker 2: It's almost like they don't take it serious or something.
Speaker 2: And again when I say what, I don't know the
Speaker 2: answer to is, am I bothered by that because I'm
Speaker 2: sensitive to the sport I love? Or am I bothered
Speaker 2: by that because you know, I think they should be
Speaker 2: more professional and do more prep Like I don't. I
Speaker 2: think it's probably more me just being sensitive to college
Speaker 2: basketball because we hear the people on ESPN, even the
Speaker 2: crew on Fox. I think Fox is a great crew
Speaker 2: of guys that cover college basketball. I mean they really do.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I know a lot of people don't go.
Speaker 2: I mean even CBS Sports, meaning like the guys like
Speaker 2: Gary Parrish and and Rothstein. Yeah, I mean those are
Speaker 2: guys who like that. That's their life. I mean, they
Speaker 2: have other things going on, I'm sure, but like that's
Speaker 2: when it comes to their career. They're known for basketball
Speaker 2: college hoops. So whenever we get to the most important
Speaker 2: part of the year, the one that the only part
Speaker 2: that really matters in the grand scheme of things, for
Speaker 2: better or worse, that's just how it is in college basketball,
Speaker 2: where there's more eyeballs on the sport than ever. We
Speaker 2: have people talking about it that don't care to even
Speaker 2: educate themselves a little bit about the teams and whatnot,
Speaker 2: and they get a lot of things wrong and then
Speaker 2: just laugh about it, and like that just bothers me.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I mean, I'm just being honest with you.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe I need to, you know, chill out and
Speaker 2: not care, but it always has bothered me. So I
Speaker 2: think if they did it about other sports, I probably
Speaker 2: wouldn't even notice, you know what I mean. And let's
Speaker 2: be real, Like Steven A. Smith, he was an NBA
Speaker 2: guy like that is that that was his laying NBA
Speaker 2: beat writer. That was how he became a journalist and
Speaker 2: now he's now he just you know, makes fun of
Speaker 2: the Cowboys every day along with NBA coverage boxing. I mean,
Speaker 2: like he's there to get to be in an opinion
Speaker 2: entertainer and that's really you know, that's what Chuck Shack
Speaker 2: and those guys are. Ernie and Kenny. I mean, Ernie's
Speaker 2: more of the of the quarterback of the crew, if
Speaker 2: that makes sense, kind of setting it up. He's really
Speaker 2: the host. But if they did that and they just
Speaker 2: had it to where it's the same show, but they're
Speaker 2: not just talking NBA. They're talking all kinds of other
Speaker 2: sports too. I'd watch now. I don't know if I
Speaker 2: would end up, you know, being a regular viewer, but
Speaker 2: as good as they were all together for the last
Speaker 2: hover many years, i'd certainly give it a shot. All right.
Speaker 2: Our number three is on the way. I always want
Speaker 2: to say our number five. That'd be a lot of me.
Speaker 2: Would we have done it before. Would be a little
Speaker 2: too much of me. But where I get mixed up
Speaker 2: is that it's actually the third hour, but it's the
Speaker 2: five o'clock hour. So stive with us right here on
Speaker 2: Sports Talk seven ninety mm hmm.