WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.440 --> 00:00:04.080 Adam Sandler was trying to the Delta Center on October 2 00:00:04.120 --> 00:00:07.759 twenty sixth, twenty twenty five. That's his share tickets around sale. 3 00:00:07.799 --> 00:00:10.759 Now text Farley the three three nine eighty six for 4 00:00:10.800 --> 00:00:14.000 your chance to win. Porter, would you mind efforting the Sandman? 5 00:00:14.720 --> 00:00:18.440 Yeah, I'll get in. Maybe in studio, we'll try, Okay, 6 00:00:18.480 --> 00:00:19.120 not just effering. 7 00:00:19.960 --> 00:00:22.280 Adam Sandler's not in studio, but an old friend is 8 00:00:22.320 --> 00:00:24.359 in studio. We haven't seen her for a while. Amy 9 00:00:24.399 --> 00:00:26.559 Donaldson from Kesel, how are you, Amy. 10 00:00:26.359 --> 00:00:28.839 I'm good. I've probably seen every Adam Sandler movie, not 11 00:00:28.839 --> 00:00:31.519 because I'm a fan, because I had step sons. 12 00:00:31.679 --> 00:00:36.159 Sure, yes, yes, Indeed, there's like a generational gap between Sandler. 13 00:00:36.240 --> 00:00:38.240 Like people my age think he's funny, and I feel 14 00:00:38.240 --> 00:00:39.560 like the younger people. 15 00:00:39.359 --> 00:00:40.840 Just to kind of out on him because he's made 16 00:00:40.880 --> 00:00:41.840 so many bad movies. 17 00:00:42.280 --> 00:00:44.880 Yeah, I think that's right. Appreciate, I think it's I 18 00:00:44.920 --> 00:00:46.479 think there might be a little bit also of a 19 00:00:46.560 --> 00:00:51.119 gender gap for mister Sandler, although his recent affection for 20 00:00:51.159 --> 00:00:55.159 Taylor Swift because he has daughters, has brought him I 21 00:00:55.159 --> 00:00:57.799 think into the fold a bit. So there are some 22 00:00:57.840 --> 00:01:00.399 women now who are given given some movies ants. 23 00:01:00.399 --> 00:01:03.079 Okay, they didn't age very well. I guess back from 24 00:01:03.079 --> 00:01:04.200 back in the day type of stuff. 25 00:01:04.280 --> 00:01:05.959 Well, I don't think they've seen water boy. 26 00:01:07.079 --> 00:01:09.239 Wall was the one. 27 00:01:09.359 --> 00:01:12.319 What was the one where he was in the where 28 00:01:12.319 --> 00:01:14.480 he wasn't he had to go back to like elementary 29 00:01:14.480 --> 00:01:15.159 school or something. 30 00:01:15.200 --> 00:01:17.439 Billy Madison. Billy Madison was great. 31 00:01:17.599 --> 00:01:20.760 That was the one that my step sons loved. 32 00:01:20.799 --> 00:01:22.599 Yeah, that was a good one. So what do you 33 00:01:22.640 --> 00:01:25.040 betut let's get an update. We were just talking off air. 34 00:01:25.079 --> 00:01:27.079 Eve been traveling. I following your Instagram. 35 00:01:27.120 --> 00:01:28.400 You're all over the place these days. 36 00:01:28.439 --> 00:01:31.239 I haven't haven't been very dedicated. I retweeted and re 37 00:01:32.200 --> 00:01:34.879 share what so other people are doing. But I went 38 00:01:34.920 --> 00:01:37.680 to Australia for a month and hung out with my 39 00:01:37.680 --> 00:01:40.280 My kid moved there last year and so I went 40 00:01:40.319 --> 00:01:42.920 there and the first two weeks Ed was with me, 41 00:01:43.040 --> 00:01:46.000 So we had to go one of the we wanted. 42 00:01:46.159 --> 00:01:48.359 He's a huge snorkeler beach guy. 43 00:01:48.400 --> 00:01:48.680 That is. 44 00:01:48.799 --> 00:01:51.959 Yeah, he loves I mean he I he considered like 45 00:01:52.000 --> 00:01:55.000 actually diving. But we didn't have a ton of time. 46 00:01:55.239 --> 00:01:57.560 So which sounds funny because we're there a month or 47 00:01:57.599 --> 00:01:59.120 I was there a month. He was only there two weeks. 48 00:01:59.159 --> 00:02:01.719 But so we did snorkel in the Great Barrier Reef 49 00:02:01.840 --> 00:02:06.000 and go out to some islands and I just love learning. 50 00:02:06.280 --> 00:02:09.879 I mean just especially like the mangroves, Like the nature 51 00:02:09.960 --> 00:02:12.479 is just so fascinating to me. And a beach entirely 52 00:02:12.520 --> 00:02:14.919 made of fish poop it's and it's the most amazing 53 00:02:14.919 --> 00:02:18.439 beautiful place you've ever been. Yeah, it's super cool. So 54 00:02:19.439 --> 00:02:22.240 but yes, we did that. And then he's a huge 55 00:02:22.439 --> 00:02:23.159 Mad Max fan. 56 00:02:23.199 --> 00:02:24.199 This oh cool. 57 00:02:24.840 --> 00:02:29.039 So Mad Max Too was filmed in a place called 58 00:02:29.080 --> 00:02:33.280 Brooken Hill, Australia, and everybody knows who knows Mad Max 59 00:02:33.360 --> 00:02:37.400 knows that is an Australian film in origin. So uh. 60 00:02:37.719 --> 00:02:40.120 We went out to the museum out there, and everyone 61 00:02:40.120 --> 00:02:42.520 thought we were crazy because it's in the middle of nowhere. 62 00:02:42.520 --> 00:02:45.680 But it looked I'll tell you this, it was so 63 00:02:45.800 --> 00:02:48.360 it was like going to Delta, Utah. Really, it looked 64 00:02:48.360 --> 00:02:51.520 so familiar. I loved it so much. It's super cool town. 65 00:02:52.680 --> 00:02:54.879 A lot of Aboriginal people live out there, a lot 66 00:02:54.960 --> 00:02:57.879 of old miners, I mean, miners are my family, Park 67 00:02:57.919 --> 00:03:03.199 City roots. So yeah, super fun and the museum was amazing. 68 00:03:03.400 --> 00:03:06.479 And then we went back to that I had come 69 00:03:06.639 --> 00:03:09.159 I had a pretty vicious case of food poisoning just 70 00:03:09.360 --> 00:03:11.919 as we arrived in Broken Hill. So we went back 71 00:03:11.919 --> 00:03:14.280 to our hotel room and watched men Max too. 72 00:03:14.400 --> 00:03:15.960 Do you know what you ate? Yes? 73 00:03:16.000 --> 00:03:16.319 I do? 74 00:03:16.680 --> 00:03:16.919 Was it? 75 00:03:16.919 --> 00:03:19.319 It was a spicy chicken wrap from the airport. 76 00:03:19.520 --> 00:03:22.439 Oh, that shouldn't do it. Spicy chicken should be safe. 77 00:03:22.439 --> 00:03:23.960 Well, I guess we just say that I have not 78 00:03:24.039 --> 00:03:26.800 eaten chicken since, and I'm not so sure I can 79 00:03:26.840 --> 00:03:27.599 eat a wrap. 80 00:03:28.080 --> 00:03:29.360 And take a little bit of a break. 81 00:03:29.560 --> 00:03:32.360 And then you were assisting your sister, who is a 82 00:03:32.439 --> 00:03:34.960 ultra marathon runner, try to get through a race in Alaska. 83 00:03:35.080 --> 00:03:37.439 Yeah, she was running the Dnali one thirty five, and 84 00:03:38.439 --> 00:03:40.520 I agreed to be a pacer. I said I could 85 00:03:40.560 --> 00:03:44.000 maybe give you fifty miles, but she got pretty sick 86 00:03:44.520 --> 00:03:49.520 about oh fifty miles. In made it about fifteen more miles, 87 00:03:49.520 --> 00:03:52.360 and then after about the halfway point we called it. 88 00:03:52.719 --> 00:03:55.319 We so we more so called it, I would say. 89 00:03:55.360 --> 00:03:59.479 My mom and my dad and I collaborated to convince 90 00:03:59.479 --> 00:04:02.280 her because I don't know if you know an ultrarunner, 91 00:04:02.439 --> 00:04:04.960 but they're not. They they don't want to quit. 92 00:04:05.039 --> 00:04:07.360 They'll die before I've got a couple of buddies. I've 93 00:04:07.360 --> 00:04:09.199 not like whenever they're telling me what, I'm like, what 94 00:04:09.240 --> 00:04:09.800 are you doing it? 95 00:04:10.080 --> 00:04:13.680 I mean, I'm not a good ultraarunner because I will quit. 96 00:04:14.280 --> 00:04:16.279 I'm not. I want to hike another day. 97 00:04:16.560 --> 00:04:17.240 You want to live? 98 00:04:17.360 --> 00:04:20.240 I mean, And I like, I guess for me, the 99 00:04:20.360 --> 00:04:24.560 experience like walking through into your Alaska with my sister 100 00:04:25.360 --> 00:04:27.079 in the you know, the middle and it's not dark, 101 00:04:27.279 --> 00:04:29.480 like it never gets pitch black in the summer, right, 102 00:04:29.519 --> 00:04:32.519 so it's like eleven twelve at night and it looks 103 00:04:32.600 --> 00:04:35.839 kind of like dusk and it's just the most beautiful place. 104 00:04:37.079 --> 00:04:39.240 I just for me, that was so odd inspiring. I 105 00:04:39.279 --> 00:04:42.040 was like, this is the thing. It's not the finish. 106 00:04:42.199 --> 00:04:44.399 I mean, she was trying to go for that would 107 00:04:44.399 --> 00:04:46.240 have been her second finish and made her the first 108 00:04:46.240 --> 00:04:49.839 woman to ever finish it twice. So she was pretty bummed. 109 00:04:49.920 --> 00:04:51.879 And I find know my sister she'll be signing up 110 00:04:51.879 --> 00:04:55.279 for that race again because she's not really good about quitting. 111 00:04:55.319 --> 00:04:58.120 The congratulations to my sister, I have to give her congratulations, 112 00:04:58.160 --> 00:05:01.800 say she was just promoted to lieutenant. Very cool teaches 113 00:05:01.839 --> 00:05:06.040 at the public Safety in South Carolina. 114 00:05:06.560 --> 00:05:08.839 The state good for her, The state all right, Amy, 115 00:05:09.079 --> 00:05:11.199 I was excited to see you on the rundown because 116 00:05:11.240 --> 00:05:12.759 a couple of things going on that I want to 117 00:05:12.759 --> 00:05:13.800 get your perspective on. 118 00:05:14.399 --> 00:05:15.680 And you know we were talking. 119 00:05:15.720 --> 00:05:18.439 I had Tim bon Tim Bontemps, excuse me on earlier 120 00:05:18.439 --> 00:05:22.160 from ESPN, and this the way the Ace Bailey story 121 00:05:22.839 --> 00:05:25.600 was covered. And I want to be clear, I don't 122 00:05:25.639 --> 00:05:28.000 know what's true and I don't know what's not. I mean, 123 00:05:28.040 --> 00:05:30.079 you and I have done this long enough where you 124 00:05:30.120 --> 00:05:33.319 know that you get messaging from players, you get messaging 125 00:05:33.439 --> 00:05:36.000 from agents, you get messaging from coaches in front off, 126 00:05:36.040 --> 00:05:38.639 and then there's what's really going on behind the scenes 127 00:05:38.680 --> 00:05:40.800 that they don't want to say out loud. So there 128 00:05:40.800 --> 00:05:43.839 could be several levels here. And I'm one like you 129 00:05:43.920 --> 00:05:46.000 that grew up elsewhere, but it's made Salt Lake and 130 00:05:46.040 --> 00:05:47.959 adopted home, and it's basically been my home for twenty 131 00:05:48.040 --> 00:05:50.439 five years. I don't think that's changing anytime soon, but 132 00:05:50.439 --> 00:05:53.439 I guess you never know. And I can get a 133 00:05:53.439 --> 00:05:56.519 little defensive when I hear people talk about our market, 134 00:05:56.600 --> 00:06:01.079 certainly juxtaposed with places like Cleveland or Oklahoma City, San Antonio, Like, 135 00:06:01.560 --> 00:06:03.560 I just prefer saw Lake over a lot of the 136 00:06:03.680 --> 00:06:05.800 NBA markets that I've been to over the course of 137 00:06:05.839 --> 00:06:08.800 my life, and maybe I'm biased here, so the whole 138 00:06:08.800 --> 00:06:11.560 thing comes out like, oh wait, it's not his preferred destination. 139 00:06:12.240 --> 00:06:14.199 And there were even people who said out loud, he's 140 00:06:14.240 --> 00:06:16.560 not going to report. He doesn't want to be there. 141 00:06:17.360 --> 00:06:20.000 He refused to work out for any team. There was 142 00:06:20.040 --> 00:06:22.319 a report that he actually told not a So I 143 00:06:22.319 --> 00:06:24.720 want to be clear, this is his reps told one 144 00:06:24.759 --> 00:06:26.800 team in the top five do not draft him. He's 145 00:06:26.800 --> 00:06:29.959 not reporting, and obviously wasn't the Jazz because he showed 146 00:06:30.000 --> 00:06:32.560 up on time, he did a great job with his 147 00:06:32.560 --> 00:06:35.120 press conference, had his introductory dinner, and he seems like 148 00:06:35.160 --> 00:06:36.000 a sweet kid who. 149 00:06:35.920 --> 00:06:38.959 Is exciting and durable. Right, yeah, So what's your. 150 00:06:38.839 --> 00:06:40.399 Take on this entire dynamic. 151 00:06:40.480 --> 00:06:43.160 Well, I think it's a collision of everybody wants to 152 00:06:43.199 --> 00:06:47.040 have a scoop and everybody hates us. It's our insecurities 153 00:06:47.240 --> 00:06:50.560 coupled with this twenty four hour news cycle where everybody 154 00:06:50.600 --> 00:06:53.120 wants to know something special. Everybody wants to give you 155 00:06:53.160 --> 00:06:55.360 something that you can't get anywhere else. I had the scoop. 156 00:06:55.560 --> 00:06:57.279 I mean I see it a little bit. Well, we 157 00:06:57.319 --> 00:06:59.480 see it on all these bigger stories, right, A little 158 00:06:59.480 --> 00:07:01.279 bit on the rets left thing in the last we'll 159 00:07:01.279 --> 00:07:03.680 get there the last twenty four hours. But yeah, so 160 00:07:03.920 --> 00:07:06.279 I think there. I mean, we're competitive people report. I'm 161 00:07:06.279 --> 00:07:09.240 talking about journalists, and we want the inside story. You 162 00:07:09.279 --> 00:07:11.639 want something when you're going to these press conferences and 163 00:07:11.680 --> 00:07:16.720 everybody's getting the same you know, pablem. We want something different, 164 00:07:16.759 --> 00:07:18.680 and so you're trying to talk to different people get 165 00:07:18.680 --> 00:07:22.040 different things. And I will say this, nowhere in my 166 00:07:22.120 --> 00:07:25.399 journalism career has there been more irresponsible speculation than in 167 00:07:25.439 --> 00:07:26.240 sports journalism. 168 00:07:26.480 --> 00:07:26.959 Interesting. 169 00:07:27.519 --> 00:07:31.040 There are people I once traced there was some some 170 00:07:31.160 --> 00:07:33.519 rumors going around on a story, and I started to 171 00:07:33.759 --> 00:07:36.279 call the people who were reporting them, say you know, 172 00:07:36.519 --> 00:07:39.079 and I know everybody, I said, I'm not reporting, I 173 00:07:39.120 --> 00:07:41.279 want to know. I'm trying to figure out the roots 174 00:07:41.319 --> 00:07:44.560 of this thing, where this idea, where this information came from? Right? 175 00:07:44.879 --> 00:07:48.000 And what ended up happening was it was a circle. 176 00:07:48.560 --> 00:07:52.120 So somebody was quoting somebody else, but if you traced 177 00:07:52.120 --> 00:07:54.399 it around, they were quoting each other. It's like if 178 00:07:54.439 --> 00:07:56.279 you and I told each other the rumor that we 179 00:07:56.319 --> 00:07:58.240 heard and we're confirmed it for each other, and then 180 00:07:58.279 --> 00:08:00.240 we both go out and say it's been confirmed by 181 00:08:00.240 --> 00:08:02.839 a source. For we are each other's source, we don't 182 00:08:02.839 --> 00:08:06.160 know anything. So that's what happened. So once that and 183 00:08:06.240 --> 00:08:08.879 that happened, I think it was around twenty twelve that 184 00:08:08.959 --> 00:08:13.040 that happened, so very early in my sports career, especially 185 00:08:13.079 --> 00:08:14.720 once I started getting out of high school sports. When 186 00:08:14.720 --> 00:08:17.439 you're talking about Olympic sports or college sports. Definitely in 187 00:08:17.480 --> 00:08:21.199 the pro ranks, people want, I mean, that's your bread 188 00:08:21.199 --> 00:08:24.959 and butter. Being the guy or the girl with information 189 00:08:25.720 --> 00:08:29.000 is how you make your name. And some people are 190 00:08:29.040 --> 00:08:31.519 reliable about that, and they're very careful about that, and 191 00:08:31.560 --> 00:08:35.759 they check and second check, and some people say things 192 00:08:35.759 --> 00:08:41.399 out of turn, you know, But yeah, I my experience, 193 00:08:41.440 --> 00:08:43.039 because I come from a news background, is if you 194 00:08:43.080 --> 00:08:44.840 don't know, I'm not going to quote you, even if 195 00:08:44.840 --> 00:08:47.159 you tell me something really solid. I know some really 196 00:08:47.200 --> 00:08:50.039 solid things I've never reported because I don't have a 197 00:08:50.039 --> 00:08:53.679 source on them. And I believe the people, but I 198 00:08:53.759 --> 00:08:56.080 just don't I don't have a firsthand source on it. 199 00:08:56.159 --> 00:08:57.879 So I think it was And then I think there's 200 00:08:57.879 --> 00:09:01.639 this natural and I think it's somewhat become a narrative 201 00:09:01.840 --> 00:09:06.600 in professional sports, especially the NBA a little bit in college. 202 00:09:06.639 --> 00:09:09.759 I mean it happened with aj when he committed to Buya, right, 203 00:09:10.720 --> 00:09:13.200 Why would anyone want to go there? It's Utah, right, 204 00:09:13.320 --> 00:09:15.159 you know, what have they done? Why? Why do you 205 00:09:15.200 --> 00:09:18.639 want to be there? They're and also ran have they exist? 206 00:09:18.639 --> 00:09:20.120 But they exist for us to beat them on the 207 00:09:20.120 --> 00:09:22.200 way to something else. You know. It's like they call 208 00:09:22.279 --> 00:09:24.679 flyover States the center of the country. We are a 209 00:09:24.679 --> 00:09:28.320 flyover place in sports, and so there is this narrative 210 00:09:28.360 --> 00:09:30.960 and we are all super defensive about it, including our 211 00:09:31.200 --> 00:09:35.519 reporters here, and then these things all collide. Everybody's looking 212 00:09:35.519 --> 00:09:37.960 for information. Somebody repeats a room or somebody says it. 213 00:09:38.039 --> 00:09:40.519 Everybody scrambling. I heard this. You got a boss. I've 214 00:09:40.559 --> 00:09:42.799 had this happen to me. You get a call from 215 00:09:42.799 --> 00:09:45.159 your boss at ten o'clock on a Friday. Somebody else 216 00:09:45.240 --> 00:09:47.879 is reporting this. What do you know? I don't know anything. 217 00:09:48.240 --> 00:09:51.320 And then saying I don't know as a reporter is 218 00:09:51.360 --> 00:09:53.320 like the worst thing ever, But it's the truth sometimes 219 00:09:53.399 --> 00:09:56.080 because sometimes there's not anything to know, and I don't 220 00:09:56.080 --> 00:09:59.159 know if an agent or somebody was trying to stir 221 00:09:59.279 --> 00:10:03.799 up some some interest or like again, how these things happened. 222 00:10:03.879 --> 00:10:06.080 We don't know. I didn't. I wasn't doing initial reporting. 223 00:10:06.399 --> 00:10:10.519 I heard these rumors coming out, and I saw journalists saying, 224 00:10:11.440 --> 00:10:13.120 another person who doesn't want to come to UTAB, this 225 00:10:13.159 --> 00:10:14.720 guy will be gone in four years, you know, all 226 00:10:14.720 --> 00:10:18.559 these things, and I assume they don't know anything because 227 00:10:18.600 --> 00:10:22.559 they're not in these rooms having these conversations. I thought, 228 00:10:22.559 --> 00:10:25.399 I'm just gonna wait, I've learned and see what happens 229 00:10:25.440 --> 00:10:28.360 with the kid, and couldn't have been nicer. Showed up, 230 00:10:28.480 --> 00:10:31.120 did his thing, you know, I mean, it happens every time, 231 00:10:31.159 --> 00:10:34.320 but I think it's just the collision of two really 232 00:10:34.360 --> 00:10:37.720 bad you know, sort of the insecurity coupled with this 233 00:10:37.840 --> 00:10:40.559 idea that like everybody's got to have a scoop. You know, yeah, 234 00:10:40.639 --> 00:10:42.519 I know something you don't know, you know, right. 235 00:10:43.200 --> 00:10:46.639 I wonder what, because again, without knowing exactly what's real 236 00:10:46.679 --> 00:10:51.240 and what's not, I will say that I like that 237 00:10:51.320 --> 00:10:54.320 Austin just took him like, all right, maybe you don't 238 00:10:54.320 --> 00:10:55.720 want to be here, but we think you're the guy, 239 00:10:55.879 --> 00:10:58.320 and we're this is the best player available at five. 240 00:10:58.799 --> 00:11:02.120 Because I do feel like there's been this undercurrent of 241 00:11:02.559 --> 00:11:06.399 fear tied into certain decision making, and I actually wondered, 242 00:11:06.919 --> 00:11:09.399 and again, if we operate off the assumption, which is 243 00:11:09.440 --> 00:11:11.399 never a smart thing to do. But there was so 244 00:11:11.519 --> 00:11:15.840 much noise around Utah not being Ace's preferred destination and 245 00:11:15.919 --> 00:11:19.720 so much reporting over the twenty four hour news cycle 246 00:11:19.799 --> 00:11:21.799 that I'm inclined to believe there's something there. 247 00:11:21.840 --> 00:11:22.879 I don't think it's with Ace. 248 00:11:22.960 --> 00:11:24.840 I do think it's with this agent of his who 249 00:11:25.440 --> 00:11:28.759 isn't even like he doesn't have his right Well, he 250 00:11:28.799 --> 00:11:30.919 didn't have the paperwork file to be like an actual 251 00:11:30.960 --> 00:11:33.840 agent when Ace first hired him, So he's new with 252 00:11:33.919 --> 00:11:36.799 this and he's probably trying to figure it out. So 253 00:11:36.919 --> 00:11:39.759 if there's even a sliver of truth to it, you know, 254 00:11:39.840 --> 00:11:42.919 the Jazz had that intel. But I like that Austin 255 00:11:43.000 --> 00:11:45.080 just said we're drafting him. We think he's the best player. 256 00:11:45.080 --> 00:11:48.080 But I also think Austin is savvy enough and everybody 257 00:11:48.159 --> 00:11:52.279 else at the Jazz that if it were true, if 258 00:11:52.320 --> 00:11:55.519 it felt true to them, I don't they're going to 259 00:11:55.600 --> 00:11:58.360 have conversations about that. Sure they draft him, they're not. 260 00:11:59.200 --> 00:12:01.559 I've this is happened before, where there's been a trade 261 00:12:01.600 --> 00:12:05.600 rumored or there's been an acquisition floated, right, and there's 262 00:12:05.639 --> 00:12:09.440 been open resistance to coming here. Those are conversations you 263 00:12:09.559 --> 00:12:11.240 have to have because the last thing you want to 264 00:12:11.279 --> 00:12:13.919 do is trade for or it is use your pick 265 00:12:13.960 --> 00:12:17.240 on somebody who's going to then blow up your whatever 266 00:12:17.279 --> 00:12:20.720 your plan is. Right, that didn't happen, so that lead 267 00:12:20.799 --> 00:12:23.799 if you say it was like some sliver of truth, 268 00:12:23.879 --> 00:12:26.840 some rumor got blown up into something else, or somebody 269 00:12:26.840 --> 00:12:29.440 said something offhand and it got somebody ran with it. 270 00:12:29.480 --> 00:12:33.799 Whatever happened, whatever the rumor mill was was doing, and 271 00:12:33.840 --> 00:12:37.960 whoever was doing it, I firmly believe, or at least 272 00:12:37.960 --> 00:12:40.360 I have this much faith in Austin Age, and that 273 00:12:40.519 --> 00:12:44.120 is that he had some conversations with people about whether 274 00:12:44.200 --> 00:12:46.200 or not or how much of that was true, or 275 00:12:46.919 --> 00:12:48.480 it may be. It may have been as simple as this, 276 00:12:48.519 --> 00:12:50.039 that someone said, you're probably going to go to Utah, 277 00:12:50.120 --> 00:12:51.639 or it looks like you might be going to Utah, 278 00:12:51.600 --> 00:12:52.720 and he's like, Utah, I don't know where the heck 279 00:12:52.759 --> 00:12:55.720 that place is. I wanted to go to X who 280 00:12:55.840 --> 00:12:59.240 he's eighteen, right, I could totally see that happening. Sure, 281 00:12:59.279 --> 00:13:01.679 and then that began. That's all these other things he's 282 00:13:01.720 --> 00:13:03.600 not going to do. He didn't work out for anybody 283 00:13:03.919 --> 00:13:07.000 they're looking for and this is where brains work, you know, 284 00:13:07.559 --> 00:13:10.240 we look for evidence that we're right. This is why 285 00:13:10.240 --> 00:13:12.840 we have the politics we have. You don't hear all 286 00:13:12.840 --> 00:13:16.639 the information. You hear your whatever bias you have, that 287 00:13:16.799 --> 00:13:18.039 whatever confirms that for you. E. 288 00:13:18.159 --> 00:13:18.879 Co Chambers. 289 00:13:19.159 --> 00:13:20.960 Yes, and so I think that's somewhat, but I mean 290 00:13:21.000 --> 00:13:24.519 it's happened so often. I believe. I mean, and I 291 00:13:24.600 --> 00:13:28.519 watched the press conferences one hundred percent believe that we're there. 292 00:13:28.559 --> 00:13:30.559 If there was a whiff of this before, there were 293 00:13:30.559 --> 00:13:33.960 conversations that were had so that even if there was reluctance, 294 00:13:34.039 --> 00:13:36.320 it was understood what that reluctance was about, and so 295 00:13:37.159 --> 00:13:40.399 whatever was going on, if it was nothing, I mean 296 00:13:40.399 --> 00:13:43.000 I heard somebody's it was nothing or whatever. How many 297 00:13:43.000 --> 00:13:47.120 times have we been the purveyors of an offen comment? 298 00:13:47.159 --> 00:13:49.080 I mean, I've been there when something like that's been 299 00:13:49.080 --> 00:13:51.159 said and people run with it and I think you 300 00:13:51.240 --> 00:13:51.960 got to be kidding me. 301 00:13:52.039 --> 00:13:53.200 Yeah that was a joke. 302 00:13:53.159 --> 00:13:56.840 Or you know, or that was just the reaction. Yeah. 303 00:13:56.879 --> 00:14:00.840 And again, the way things are now, this kid is eighteen, 304 00:14:01.519 --> 00:14:03.480 Like you have a kid, I have a kid. I 305 00:14:03.519 --> 00:14:06.320 hope nobody's holding my kid to what she says, you know, 306 00:14:06.559 --> 00:14:09.720 for sure. Sometimes me, sometimes I have a reaction like 307 00:14:09.720 --> 00:14:13.039 what I mean, there are so many things in a 308 00:14:13.120 --> 00:14:15.799 meeting or wherever where you're like, your initial reaction is 309 00:14:15.799 --> 00:14:19.080 that's stupid. I don't want that whatever, But like give 310 00:14:19.159 --> 00:14:23.320 people room to get educated and to get information into 311 00:14:23.320 --> 00:14:26.039 maybe evolved. But I was super impressed with the press commerence. 312 00:14:26.080 --> 00:14:29.000 I liked all the picks. I thought it was really fun. 313 00:14:29.840 --> 00:14:32.840 I have tickets to the Summer League with my grandson 314 00:14:32.879 --> 00:14:37.360 and nephews, so we're going to go. And my nephew, 315 00:14:37.360 --> 00:14:40.679 who's an airman at Hill Air Force Base, has been 316 00:14:41.080 --> 00:14:45.639 in a depressive state since the lottery. Oh texted me 317 00:14:45.720 --> 00:14:49.120 immediately all caps and is beside himself with joy. 318 00:14:49.159 --> 00:14:50.159 So yeah, good good. 319 00:14:50.279 --> 00:14:52.080 However it works out, we're going to enjoy it well. 320 00:14:52.120 --> 00:14:55.320 And the only time will tell. I. You know, when 321 00:14:55.320 --> 00:14:59.480 it comes to what I feel is really unfair messaging 322 00:14:59.679 --> 00:15:03.519 about the jazz and Utah and Salt Lake, it just 323 00:15:03.600 --> 00:15:05.799 makes it hard for those guys to do their jobs 324 00:15:05.840 --> 00:15:09.320 when they've got to answer all these questions misconceptions like no, 325 00:15:09.399 --> 00:15:11.840 it's not that weird here and again, you and I 326 00:15:11.879 --> 00:15:14.240 both grew up elsewhere. I'm aware of the oddities that 327 00:15:14.360 --> 00:15:17.399 exists here. I've never ran from them. They are real. Okay, 328 00:15:17.840 --> 00:15:19.720 it doesn't make it a horrible place to live. You 329 00:15:19.799 --> 00:15:22.080 just have to find out how you traverse the space 330 00:15:22.120 --> 00:15:27.399 and respect the culture that essentially is intertwined in everything 331 00:15:27.440 --> 00:15:28.639 that we do here, whether you like. 332 00:15:28.679 --> 00:15:29.000 It or not. 333 00:15:29.799 --> 00:15:32.600 But it just it makes their jobs so hard when 334 00:15:32.600 --> 00:15:34.919 they've got to do this all the time. Like another 335 00:15:35.039 --> 00:15:36.960 kid doesn't want to come here, another player doesn't want 336 00:15:37.000 --> 00:15:37.639 us to trade for him. 337 00:15:37.639 --> 00:15:38.440 Dennis Lindsay went. 338 00:15:38.360 --> 00:15:41.600 On a podcast last year and said that he had 339 00:15:41.600 --> 00:15:44.399 a trade done for a star forward. 340 00:15:44.600 --> 00:15:45.879 I know who is Kevin Love. 341 00:15:46.200 --> 00:15:49.919 He had a trade done for Kevin Love, and Kevin 342 00:15:49.960 --> 00:15:52.120 Love's agent called him and said, don't do this. He 343 00:15:52.159 --> 00:15:55.120 will not come live in Salt Lake. He will not report. 344 00:15:56.080 --> 00:15:59.399 And so if Austin kind of has this attitude, and 345 00:15:59.440 --> 00:16:02.080 again to your point, conversation certainly took place that were 346 00:16:02.080 --> 00:16:04.080 not privy to. But if he's just going to go 347 00:16:04.120 --> 00:16:06.320 all in and be like, look, we're drafting you, we're 348 00:16:06.360 --> 00:16:07.039 trading for you. 349 00:16:07.240 --> 00:16:09.600 And then you know, with Ace, they have seven years. 350 00:16:09.639 --> 00:16:12.320 Okay, your rookie contract four years, then you'll pick up 351 00:16:12.320 --> 00:16:15.320 the option for the final three unless he wants to 352 00:16:15.360 --> 00:16:18.000 be traded. We saw with Donovan Gordon left. You know, 353 00:16:18.039 --> 00:16:21.519 we do have the PTSD of players that we really 354 00:16:21.639 --> 00:16:25.159 latched onto leaving here. But no, if you're Austin Age, 355 00:16:25.200 --> 00:16:27.360 if you're Danny, if you're Justin Zanik, if you're Ryan, 356 00:16:27.399 --> 00:16:29.320 and Ashley said, no, we think you're the best player, 357 00:16:29.399 --> 00:16:31.039 and we have seven years to show you that you 358 00:16:31.039 --> 00:16:34.120 can accomplish anything you want here in Salt Lake. Just 359 00:16:34.159 --> 00:16:35.639 go about it unafraid. 360 00:16:35.840 --> 00:16:38.559 Yeah, and I think they knew they know something about 361 00:16:38.559 --> 00:16:41.120 these players that we don't. They know more about their background, 362 00:16:41.159 --> 00:16:43.480 their histories, what their other interests are, because these are 363 00:16:43.639 --> 00:16:47.279 human beings. They're not like, they're not commodities, right right, 364 00:16:47.320 --> 00:16:48.840 And it's not so simple as to say, look at 365 00:16:48.840 --> 00:16:50.879 the statu sheet, you know, and look at what we 366 00:16:50.960 --> 00:16:52.919 need and let's go for this. I'm sure there was 367 00:16:53.000 --> 00:16:56.960 a lot of other input about how his personality, how 368 00:16:57.320 --> 00:16:59.600 you know, what kind of I mean, he's by all 369 00:16:59.600 --> 00:17:02.000 accounts everything I could read, he's a super gym rat. 370 00:17:02.320 --> 00:17:04.279 I mean, honest to god, he reminded me a lot 371 00:17:04.319 --> 00:17:06.920 of Karl Malone. You know, this idea that like I 372 00:17:06.960 --> 00:17:10.480 got something to prove and what makes What makes it more, 373 00:17:11.000 --> 00:17:12.880 what will feed that more is being in a place 374 00:17:12.880 --> 00:17:13.240 that has. 375 00:17:13.160 --> 00:17:15.319 Something to improve, right, Yeah, good point. 376 00:17:15.519 --> 00:17:19.240 I think there. I mean Carl Kyle Whittingham, which, by 377 00:17:19.279 --> 00:17:21.160 the way, there's another guy who's had rumors floated every 378 00:17:21.160 --> 00:17:24.480 single year that he's retiring, right, But Kyle Whittingham is 379 00:17:25.279 --> 00:17:27.759 bread and butter. Is getting people to believe that no 380 00:17:27.839 --> 00:17:29.759 matter what, no matter who's on the rust or no 381 00:17:29.839 --> 00:17:32.839 matter what they're ranked, no one respects them. Right and 382 00:17:32.920 --> 00:17:36.640 in sports, that can be a huge, huge, huge bonus. 383 00:17:36.759 --> 00:17:39.319 Yeah, no, for sure. So we'll see, we'll see how 384 00:17:39.480 --> 00:17:40.799 we'll see how it works out, all right. 385 00:17:40.839 --> 00:17:44.119 You referenced the Jake Rehts Jake Rehetzlaf story. We'll get 386 00:17:44.119 --> 00:17:46.200 to a catch or break and then we'll do that. 387 00:17:46.240 --> 00:17:49.240 Coming up on the other side, the civil lawsuit has 388 00:17:49.279 --> 00:17:52.599 been dismissed and Jake, according to Pete Thamil, has plans 389 00:17:52.599 --> 00:17:55.519 to transfer because he believes he's going to face the 390 00:17:55.559 --> 00:17:58.640 seven game suspension for by lating the school's on a code. 391 00:17:58.799 --> 00:18:01.240 So we'll get to that with more local storylines as well. 392 00:18:01.319 --> 00:18:03.640 Amy Donaldson live in studio for another big segment coming 393 00:18:03.720 --> 00:18:04.359 up on the other side. 394 00:18:04.400 --> 00:18:11.519 Right here on ESPN seven hundred. Amy Donaldson is live 395 00:18:11.599 --> 00:18:12.200 in studio. 396 00:18:12.279 --> 00:18:16.599 I always appreciate Amy's time world traveler back on the ground. 397 00:18:17.519 --> 00:18:19.839 Have you been watching any RSL soccer? I know you've 398 00:18:19.880 --> 00:18:21.920 been traveling. You've been watching any any RSL? 399 00:18:22.039 --> 00:18:24.920 I did. We didn't watch the most recent game, but 400 00:18:25.160 --> 00:18:30.680 the game before. And yeah, when I got back, like 401 00:18:30.720 --> 00:18:32.119