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two thy twenty four and we just heard a track
called four and Ever and that is wisely done and
we have Stephen Michael Done is here with us live
in studio. Hello, welcome. Oh I don't have your mic up.
I apologize for that. Let's try that again.
Speaker 17: Hello, Hello sir, there we go.
Speaker 16: We switched switched on Mike's at the last minute there,
but now that sounds good, so welcome. It has been
quite a long time since.
Speaker 17: You and I talked, Yes, sir, it's been a lifetime.
Speaker 16: I have interviewed you before. What it must have been like,
literally like fifteen years ago.
Speaker 17: Yes, is that even possible?
Speaker 16: It's amazing. That doesn't even seem possible to me. It's
funny because you would uh you had reached out to
us and you had mentioned at the time you were
in the band Supplication, and I remember, I think in
your message you said something like I don't know if
you remember me or and I was like, oh, of
course I remember the band. And then I saw your
picture on Facebook and I was like, oh, yeah, I
totally remember you. But uh yeah, so that was yeah,
that was quite some time ago. And you said I
actually interviewed you twice back then.
Speaker 17: Yeah. Yeah, one was with our drummer and bass player,
and the second one was just the bass player.
Speaker 16: Okay, Scott, right, Scott Perry. Yeah, Scott and I are
still in touch. He did a podcast a few years
ago called Courtesy Call, and I was I was involved
in that a little bit, helped him with that.
Speaker 17: But oh fantastic.
Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah, yeah, because I remember the interview with What
I remember about the interview with you and Scott is
that you were relentless and picking on him, you know,
and it was it was in a fun way. Yeah,
you know, it was obviously there was camaraderie, although there
were a couple of moments there where he did seem
legitimately frustrated.
Speaker 17: But I don't know, if you know the Jason Newstead
situation where they where they hazed him ridiculous. Oh of course, yeah,
that was it was we were kids and kind of ales,
you know, that's it's what happens. He was new, No,
it was.
Speaker 16: It was fun though. It was funny and all those
all those interviews are still available online too. But jeez,
I might have to go back and revisit that. Yeah,
that was that was fun. But now how long were
how long did you guys work together? In Supplication? That
that was a while, right that that band went on?
Speaker 17: Yeah, I mean we took a four year hiatus just
for families and issues and things, and we came back
last year. Actually, okay, you know, stronger than ever. We
got a new bass player. Oh very good fits the band,
and there was no hazing period necessary. Yeah, we are
all adults. Is a different time, yeah, yeah, no, it's
like fifteen years.
Speaker 16: Yeah.
Speaker 17: I started in seven with them and wow around COVID area,
took a break, yep, and then back at it.
Speaker 16: So Supplication so that exists. Now you guys are still
doing that outstanding Good for you, Good for you. And
in addition to that, so we have wisely done is
the official name of this project.
Speaker 17: Yeah, and this and this is all you correct, Yeah,
doing the drums, bass, guitars, vocals, mixing. I had to
reach out for artwork. I wanted to do it myself.
I'm somewhat of an artist, yeah, painter, but uh yeah.
Speaker 16: What what went into the decision to And obviously, like
I said, you know, you've still got the band supplication,
But what went into the decision because that's a lot
to take on. Like, I've always been really impressed. You know,
I'm a musician. I've played in bands, but I've never
done anything where and I've always kind of wondered what
it would be like to do something where I'm doing
everything myself and it's, you know, entirely my vision, which
it sounds like it would be very rewarding, but it
also sounds like a hell of a lot of work
and just an enormous challenge. So what what went into
your decision to do this project?
Speaker 17: Originally I had a friend who was going to going
to do vocals and he hevy already he took his life.
Speaker 16: So, oh my god, I'm sorry to hear that.
Speaker 17: Wow, I decided just to keep on trucking.
Speaker 16: Yeah, oh wow, that's terrible. So he was going to
do the vocals and you were going to do everything else?
Was that the original plan?
Speaker 17: Yeah, and I'm just like, no, I'm going to do
this yeah wow.
Speaker 16: Oh that's horrible.
Speaker 1: But so.
Speaker 5: Was this?
Speaker 16: Is this the first project where you've done lead vocals.
Speaker 17: I've dabbled in doing solo stuff before, but never. The
music was never this well put together. It was never
I never saw it as presentable. Yeah, you know, yeah,
but there was a copyright claim issue and that had
a lot to do with the naming of everything. But
I took a few years back, step back, and really
worked on my songwriting and came back with this wisely
done project.
Speaker 16: What was the I'm fascinated. Anything involving copyright and trademark
is fascinating to me. Like what happened? What was the issue?
Speaker 17: So I didn't know because I'm I'm foolish and this
was beyond my time. But there was a band whom
name was sam Hean, but they didn't copyright the name,
and for me, it was a super I had a
super like black metal mindset.
Speaker 14: You know.
Speaker 17: Yeah, so I thought that was perfect, perfect name, perfect name.
Didn't look into it, just like released the album, you know,
Oh no kidding, yeah. Yeah, you know, it didn't go anywhere,
but that's fine. And they talked to me like hey,
and I was like, oh ho, I didn't know.
Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah, a lesson learned.
Speaker 17: Yeah quite Yeah.
Speaker 16: Now does any of this music and uh and we'll
play some more of it as we go. But does
any of this also cross over into Supplication or are
you keeping this all completely separate?
Speaker 17: Yeah? No, I was really influenced by black metal music
and I was trying to bring that into supplication and
it didn't work. It didn't jive with the guys, It
didn't you know what I mean. So this is all separate.
Speaker 16: Okay, Okay, that surprises me actually that you weren't able
to because from what I remember about Supplication, I mean,
it's pretty pretty well. The sound may have changed, though
I haven't heard you guys in a in a long time.
Speaker 17: More less shreddy, more consistently groovy okay you know, slam
yeah yeah yeah, chugging along.
Speaker 16: Yeah, and with this material, I mean, do you have
any plans to perform this in any way? I'm not.
I'm not sure how you would do it. It's just you.
Speaker 17: But there is a one man band out there called Putrid.
Pile who goes out and tours and he's he's a
legend now, but he's been doing that for like twenty years.
I couldn't see myself doing that, but I could see
myself consistently releasing records. Yeah, you know, in a timely manner.
Speaker 16: And this has a lot of tracks, which is interesting
to me because you know, we live in a time
where you can you can do it so many different ways.
You know, some artists just released singles. Some artists will
release a series of singles with the goal ultimately for
it to become an album. You know, sort of the
inverse of how it used to be. You release an
album and then you release singles from the album. Some
artists just only release singles and that's all they ever do.
Some release an EP. You know, we had the Forest
Forgets on in the first hour, and they have an
any EP that just came out. We went into your
decision to make a full album because again, it's like
you've already you've already taken on the responsibility of doing
this all yourself. You're not only doing it all yourself,
but you're you're made a whole album out of this.
Speaker 17: Yeah, I mean that was the goal to begin with.
It was never It was never about you know, getting
music out there and just doing it. It was doing
it for myself and doing it for doing it for them,
for the memory of it.
Speaker 16: Yeah. But is it uh? Is it something that I
don't know if? Well? Is there less pressure in terms
of liking supplication? Obviously being in a band with a
bunch of guys, you know, you want to do as
much as you can in terms of you want as
large an audience as you can get and whatnot and
play all these shows and stuff. So is this as
a solo project, is this more kind of you don't
have that pressure?
Speaker 7: Uh?
Speaker 17: Yeah, I can just pretty much do what I want.
I you know, just I suppose I can release singles
and do everything like that. I just wanted to get
this out there.
Speaker 16: Yeah, you know, I.
Speaker 17: I have I have my next record in mind, you know,
I just want to keep going with some music.
Speaker 16: Yeah yeah, yeah, Oh that's that's awesome. Uh, well, we
can play another track. Do you have a what what
do you have in mind? And put you on the
spot here?
Speaker 17: How about praise? Praise?
Speaker 18: Gotcha?
Speaker 16: Any kind of a story behind this?
Speaker 17: Yeah? Absolutely, it's basically you know, reflecting on my upbringing
and now that I have a sun, how it reflects
with him and how it's basically full circle.
Speaker 16: And yeah, so this is a very personal song. Yeah,
sounds like yeah.
Speaker 17: This whole album, it's very different from Supplication. It's which
which is you know, normal death metal. This is very
personal everything on the record.
Speaker 16: So yeah, all right, let's give this a listen. This
is wisely done and the track is called Praise.
Speaker 12: So say.
Speaker 19: Why go got My mom now.
Speaker 12: Said so sorry, I had I time.
Speaker 19: Mom, right I show.
Speaker 12: Oh yo go so yes, why I go by a by.
Speaker 14: Sash got swash.
Speaker 12: All by night Bob.
Speaker 2: Ar yaas Yeah, Bo called our frid by time tiht bang.
Speaker 19: Nice Si donn barb.
Speaker 12: Five bottle short. I say, I just had my back
on our shirt. The shirt.
Speaker 18: Well love shalt oh sir Sie, why a got salt?
Speaker 19: H got ship shut up shot rock fly Sho.
Speaker 16: The track is praise the artist is wisely done here
with us live in studio, and yeah, we're talking off
air a little bit about the track. You know, you
were pointing out how you kind of do a thing
there where the chorus that actually slows down instead of
speeding up like you might like you might expect, and
it sounded like too. Was there another were the vocals
layered in that?
Speaker 17: Yeah?
Speaker 16: Sounded yeah, it kind of added some texture to it
that I liked.
Speaker 17: I am not brave enough to do a solo take
right right.
Speaker 16: I'm always fascinated too by singers who can do that.
We talked about this a little bit with Griffin from
the Forest Forgets. You know, in their music, you know,
he sings it clean for the most part, but then
there's some there's some screams, usually kind of toward the
end as the song builds. But to be able to
sing like that, what what is your like? Do you
have any kind of a protocol to kind of protect
your voice, protect your vocal chords, because I would imagine that.
I mean, if I tried to do that, I'd probably
destroy my larynx or something. Do you how do you
do that? And how do you learn to do that?
Speaker 17: Basically singing along to songs you like songs, you know,
but if there's any pressure in your throat or anything
like that, you're not doing it right. You're supposed to
come from your gut, yeah, you know, the tone comes
from your throat. If you think of it like that. Yeah,
and also how you position your tongue if you put
it in the roof of your mouth and.
Speaker 16: Yeah, I don't want to yeah yeah, yeah. Griffin was
kind of saying too, if as long as like it's
not it sounds difficult, but it's not difficult if you
learn to do it correctly, which is important too, because
if you learn to do it correctly, you're a lot
less likely to hurt yourself, you know, because there's no
shortage of stories of you know, singers who've had to
have you know, usually as when they get older, they
have to have throat surgeries and you know, because they've
put all this stress and strain on their vocal cords
over the years. But was it, uh, have you always
been able to do that? Because I would imagine like,
do you do backing vocals in supplication?
Speaker 17: Yeah? Absolutely, Yeah, so you already had that that skill, Yeah,
pretty much. It was it was learning to try to
to sing normally. That's the key.
Speaker 16: That's the hard right, right, There's that it's it's kind
of a famous among musicians. What is it called the
zen of screaming? Do you know the she's a teacher, Yeah,
she's a vocal coach.
Speaker 17: Yeah.
Speaker 16: I think it's called the Zen of Screaming and uh,
and she has a DVD or now you know, you
probably just stream it now. But that that I've been
hearing about from from singers who sing those aggressive vocals
for probably twenty years now. But but I guess she
kind of she's known. I wish I could remember her name,
but I guess right, I guess she's known for being
kind of the best teacher in terms of again, how
to do that, how to do that safely. But when
you're recording this music and you're singing like that, you
have to take Do you have to take breaks and
kind of let your your vocal chords recover or are
you able to just maintain that?
Speaker 17: No, I can pretty much roll with it. I'll do
a verse, you know, I'll I'll mix it a little bit.
I'll do the underlaying verse and then just move on.
Speaker 16: Yeah.
Speaker 17: So I mean I can do it for six hours
just wow, well, you know, just kind of I guess
it ebbs and flows. Yeah, I'm not screaming on minutes
on end, right right, right?
Speaker 16: And can you tell me about your recording process. I'm
you know, I'm a recording nerd. I love hearing about
this stuff, and you know, it's funny, just as we
were talking earlier about especially you know since the last
time I interviewed you. Uh, there's so many different ways
now to release music. There's also so many different ways
now to record music. You know, you can you can
go to a recording studio like a lot of our guests,
for example, they go to Eric Sotter at Blackheart. You
can do that and and get great results. But you
can also if you know what you're doing, you can
record in your living room and get great results too.
What's what's your process?
Speaker 13: What?
Speaker 7: What?
Speaker 16: How did you record this music?
Speaker 17: This is as de i y cheap as possible, the
total black metal essence if you know anything about black
metal recording on a little you know, tape tape recorder, yeah, essence.
But now new in the new age, just starting mostly
USB USB microphones, electronic drums. I got an SD twelve
hundred kit and that I tweaked it to make it
sound as real as possible, so hopefully you wouldn't be
able to tell. But as actual writing and that goes,
I start with guitar, get the skeleton of the song,
and then I'll click it out with a metronome and
then record drums to the scratch guitar, oh for real interesting,
and then I'll do real guitars over that and real
you know everything else.
Speaker 16: Yeah, so for you, So it's easiest to get that
scratch guitar track down first, so you know where you
are in the song, and then you do the Yeah,
the drums do sound realistic. That's another thing too, that's
amazing about I know, because there was a time when
you know, you could tell right like like twenty years
ago if you heard something I mean, not necessarily something
recorded with a drum machine and a million dollar studio,
because they would obviously have a very very good drum machine.
But you know, if you listen to somebody's demo and
it was done with a drum machine, you could tell, yeah,
you know what I mean. But now the drum sounds
are so. We had a guest on a couple of
years ago. I forget his actual his government name as
they say, but he has a project called Downhill Rollers
and it's all him and I just I was floored
when he told me that those were pre program drums
on pro program drums on his tracks, because they sounded
so realistic. I was like, I can't believe you got
such a realistic you know, I mean, it really does
sound like a live drummer. I know some of these
programs too, they have I think they just call it
a humanizer effect, where you can that you can put
on so that it so that it's not quite perfect.
Speaker 17: So that that sounds wild to me. I know, right, No,
this is not quantized to be corrected. This is not
you know, this is not that.
Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah, no, so that's uh, that's amazing. Is the process?
Like if you could put an average on it, how
long does it take? How long did it take you
to record each track?
Speaker 17: Each song on this album, between like writing itself and
recording and everything that goes along with it, probably one
hundred hours of track no kidding, wow, I mean that's
a lot of mixing and too, So that's accounting everything.
Speaker 16: So you do all the mixing yourself and everything.
Speaker 17: Yes, unfortunately that is the most tedious. I dislike that
the most.
Speaker 16: Yeah yeah, well yeah, You're fatigue is probably a big problem,
right sir.
Speaker 17: Yeah, yeah, I don't know if you guys know that.
Me where it's a I've been working on my record
for six hours all night and now it sounds worse.
Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah, yeah do you have to Yeah for listeners
who don't know, uh, you know, if if you listen
to something over and over again as you're working on it,
you kind of get you know, part of it is psychological, right,
you kind of get sick of it, and part of
it I think, I think there is a physical ear
fatigue too that can happen, especially you know if you've
got your headphones really loud because you don't want to
miss anything, but then you know, you start to get
your ears are ringing. You've got tonight, this and the
you know, the whole deal. So yeah, I mean you
probably I assume over the course of this project there
were probably many a moment that you had to just
get up and walk away from it.
Speaker 17: Right you know, yeah, no, absolutely, it I I quantify
like trying to move a mountain with a bucket. It's
like just a little bit at a time. Yeah, you know,
it's a daily process. It's something you got to do
every day. It's like working out, you know, Yeah, you've
got to do it, got to build momentum and.
Speaker 16: You know, yeah, how do you say motivated? I mean
do you over the course of recording this, did you
ever have a moment where you thought, I don't know
if I don't know if I'm on the right the
right track here, no pun intended.
Speaker 17: But yeah, only all the time? Yeah really, yeah, no,
I I was pretty dead set on what I wanted
to do. There was there was a few songs that
didn't make the record. Yeah, but motivation wise, it just
came from came from losing my buddy.
Speaker 16: H So, yeah, do you plan to You strike me
as someone who probably writes a lot. I assume you
have other music that you've written. Do you plan to
continue past this album? Do you plan to do another
one in the future? Yeah?
Speaker 17: My next one is Uncherished. I have nine songs ready
for it.
Speaker 16: Oh wow. Yeah, yeah, so you're already you're already working
on it.
Speaker 17: I've been. I've been sitting on this record for a
little while.
Speaker 16: Yeah, so.
Speaker 17: You know, over the past few months, just been writing
and letting those juices flow and all that.
Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah, outstanding. Well, let's yeah, let's play Yeah, oh yeah,
we got plenty of time. Let's play another one. What
should we play next?
Speaker 17: Queen or King Ween or King?
Speaker 16: All right? And why am I not seeing that I'm
seeing Queen of Queen of Escalation?
Speaker 17: Yeah?
Speaker 16: Oh is that it?
Speaker 17: Yeah? Let's roll with that.
Speaker 16: Oh, I see you weren't saying okay queen or uh
I'm sorry. Oh you were offering me two options because
you have you have Queen of Escalation and King of inattention.
Speaker 17: Okay, all right, I'm taking shots at myself and everyone else.
Speaker 16: What's the okay, so Queen of Escalation will play and
what's a story behind this one?
Speaker 17: Just a significant other at the time and a relationship song. Yeah, yep.
Can never win, you can never get ahead. You can
never You know, everyone's been there, so I hope not everyone.
Speaker 16: But I have to ask has she heard this that
you know of?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 16: And what how do she like it?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 17: Just into it?
Speaker 16: She is good?
Speaker 17: Okay, good, no love loss?
Speaker 16: Okay, that's good. All right, Let's give this a listen.
This is Queen of Escalation by Wisely Done.
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Speaker 2: The talk do sad when back? Who was a boot
sock farther?
Speaker 13: Some want.
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Speaker 12: Weird side to time and save long blast my son.
Speaker 10: So my dolls of to rs.
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Speaker 2: N the so doing I started where? Or whip song?
Speaker 12: Wonder my why er song? Let's for a job?
Speaker 7: Friens you so.
Speaker 12: Want so true to nuts.
Speaker 10: I'm outside of low.
Speaker 7: Sight so I'm called.
Speaker 12: Oh I'm going to have to follow their happiness.
Speaker 10: Oh I'm sounds the sun.
Speaker 12: See that's song of the Alser?
Speaker 7: What talk?
Speaker 10: What podcast?
Speaker 12: Why Wow?
Speaker 10: Your bag back?
Speaker 13: Not suck?
Speaker 12: John?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 11: Not?
Speaker 16: That is Queen of escalation. The project is wisely done
and we have Stephen Michael done with us here live
in studio, and that is all him and very very cool.
Now are you in terms of going forward with this?
Speaker 7: Uh?
Speaker 16: Will? Because you you mentioned was it I forget enough?
Speaker 11: It was?
Speaker 16: Oh no, it was on Eric. Yeah, we're talking about
the next project. You've already got songs written and ready
to go. Yes, do you have a theme in mind
for that project as well, because this one seems to
have you know, you told us kind of the backstory
of how this came about. Is is there some sort
of a theme with the next album or is it
just going to be more of a collection of songs or.
Speaker 17: In the same way that this is a collection of
songs we're loosely based around you know, myself and everything
in my life. Yeah, it'll be more of the same. Yeah,
but the music is I think stepped up, and I
I I'm definitely taking notes from this album.
Speaker 16: Yeah. Yeah. Will you will your approach change or I
mean in terms of because again, you know, you're doing
everything yourself, so that gives you the freedom to really
kind of do it however you want. Will your your
process change at all? Or do you think you're gonna
do it pretty much the same way.
Speaker 17: I'm gonna do it the same way. The songs are
a little simpler. I can do more layers with guitars
and more harmonies, more solos. Yeah, yeah, improve to me anyway. Yeah, yeah,
it feels it feels good to me. They feel good.
Speaker 16: Do you intend to bring in any guest musicians or
guest vocalists or anything like that, or is it important
to you to kind of keep this, keep this as
your you know, your expression and so forth.
Speaker 17: I'd never considered it to be honest. Yeah, I think
I'm just gonna keep it just just from how from
how it started with me and my buddy. I think
I'm gonna keep it just me.
Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. Does anybody from Supplication ever
say hey man, i'd like to I'd like to help
you with this or do they do they understand that
this is this is yours and you want to keep
it separate.
Speaker 17: No, they're they're definitely cool with it. They they helped
me pick songs and yeah, you know good. You know,
it's not like, oh yeah, he's he's doing his thing
when he has time, right right.
Speaker 16: No, that's good, that's good that there's no issues there.
Speaker 17: But that's how this whole thing came about.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 17: I was like, you know, we're not really getting a
lot of things done in the band. It's taken a
long time. It's taken years. I'm just gonna learn how
to play drums. Yeah, and then you know, ten fifteen
years later.
Speaker 16: Yeah, we should explain to people too who are listening
who might not know. You know, we've referred to this
genre as black metal. Can you define that for our
listeners who.
Speaker 17: Well, it's definitely not true black metal because that matters
because these people are very elitist and categorical and keeping
and don't listen to me. It's metal with some black
metal influences. Okay, but definitely has the spirit, yeah, the
lo fi spirit.
Speaker 16: Yeah.
Speaker 17: Yeah, black metal itself like from the eighties, like the
whole you know, Norwegian stuff, Yeah, Satanic panic and all that.
And then forty years later it's just kind of a influence.
Speaker 16: Yeah. I mean it's tricky when you get into genres
and labels and everything, because you're right, I mean, people
people argue over you know, what is well, first of all,
people have difficulty even agreeing what is quote unquote metal.
You know, some some people have a very narrow definition
of metal. Some people think that only the very heaviest
of metal is truly metal. Yeah, and some people think
a band like Poison, you know, we used to call
it hair metal. You know, it's like, well metal though,
is that? You know, it's it's uh, you know, nobody agrees.
Speaker 17: Or a kid might say now like oh Disturbed or
five Finger Death Punch like yes, okay, they are they
are metal, yes, but whether or not those who are
into metal like them.
Speaker 16: Right, Yeah. Yeah, I worked in so I used to uh,
well when an interview do before I was working there
actually at Strawberries you remember Strawberries, Oh yeah, I love that. Yeah,
And and then eventually Fye because they bought us. But
I worked in different locations over the years with that company,
and there was one there was one location. You know
how the CDs, remember, they would be broken out back category,
so you add most of the stores, you know, like
anything popular. You know, we had like we had a pop,
R and B rock section which is what dominated the store,
which would basically, you know, like you would have Disturbed
in there, but you would also have Jennifer Lopez in
There was just kind of everything sure, you know, everything
that wasn't cansidered quote unquote niche or niche I guess
now everyone says niche, but.
Speaker 17: There was world.
Speaker 16: Yeah, there was one location that I worked in that
actually had a metal section because I guess they felt
that it I can't remember which one it was, but
I guess they felt that it was appropriate for that location.
But it was weird because I always thought it was
just awkward because inevitably, you know, people would come in
and they'd be looking for things in the metal section
that wouldn't be there that they thought should be there,
but they'd be in this broader pop rock section and
there and there'd be people who would be like, well,
you know, they'd find things in the metal section that
you know, they didn't think should be there, and they
would would complain about that. And that same location we
also had a punk section, and you can imagine what
a nightmare that would be, you know, because you know,
you put Green Day in there and then people are
mad about it. You have great well, you know, we
generally consider them a punk band, but why they're not
real punkin.
Speaker 17: You know, it's just like, do we need a pop
punk section?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 16: It just we probably should have had one. But you know,
when you get into the labels and the genres and everything,
it's tricky.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 17: Yeah, I've found so many random fines and fantastic albums
just through through looking. I missed, I miss actual CDs? Yes, absolutely, yeah.
Speaker 16: Do you plan to release release this on or maybe
you already have a CD?
Speaker 17: Or I want to get it picked up my label
and just do a small yeah, you know, one hundred
five hundred thousand whatever it is.
Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah, no, that's that's great. His supplication. Do you
guys have anything out on CD earlier?
Speaker 17: Yeah? I almost gave you one, but I'm a terrible
test that's all right. It was from two years ago.
We had an album. Okay, I can't tell you a
little record label, but yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll have we'll
have a new EP coming out next year. Oh excellent, excellent,
we got eight songs.
Speaker 16: That's another thing I remember from my days at Strawberries
was when everyone would talk about, oh see, you know,
because like I was working there when Napster first became
a big deal, and uh, everybody was like, oh, that's
the end of CDs, you know, and then Napster kind
of faded. But then Spotify came in and you know,
iTunes and everything, and everybody was like, oh, that's the
end of CDs. And here we are in twenty twenty
four and there's still you know, like our first guests,
the Forrest Forgets gave us a CD. You know, there's
still lots of CDs. Guest, Yeah, all right, that's all right.
It's the thought that counts.
Speaker 17: Yeah, I did. I was, I was here, I was
on the throne. I'm like, yeah, I should totally get
them something, right.
Speaker 10: But you're no, I didn't need to know where you
were thinking.
Speaker 17: Oh come on, that doesn't matter.
Speaker 16: It's fine. Some of them were men. We do our
best thinking there, right.
Speaker 17: I was on the drum throne.
Speaker 16: Right, that's that's that's clearly what you meant.
Speaker 17: Yes, highlight.
Speaker 16: And what about any kind of visual representation for any
of these songs? You plan to do any any kind
of videos or anything.
Speaker 17: Yeah, you know Rob Thomas kid very well, Yeah he does,
he does his video.
Speaker 16: Oh he's killing it right now.
Speaker 17: Yeah, yeah, he found his.
Speaker 16: Fourth Kind films niche yep, yep, Yeah, Rob's doing great.
I've interviewed him. He actually, he might hold the record
for a number of times interviewed by me. Oh, I've
probably interviewed him. Not quite double digits, but close.
Speaker 17: He is relentless in his work.
Speaker 16: Yes, yes, and he's fascinating to talk to, a great guy,
so talented. But I think the next time I interview him,
because I'm sure we'll have him on the show again soon.
Uh it may it may not be as Kadaver, it
may be as as as Rob. Because I think he's
kind of now that he's so successful with Fourth Kind Films,
I think he's kind of leaving Kaydaver behind.
Speaker 17: Yeah yeah, yeah, sorry, I didn't know it on the spot,
but oh.
Speaker 16: The Fourth Kind of Films Yeah yeah, yeah, but no,
he's he's doing fantastic. Yeah, so you're gonna do a
video with him? Yeah, excellent, very cool. Do you know
what what track yet?
Speaker 17: Or I have absolutely no idea? Yeah, it's such a
It was pulling teeth trying to figure out which songs
I was gonna play here?
Speaker 16: Yeah, the way here Yeah, yeah, no doubt, no doubt.
Well we do, we have time, we'll we'll play uh,
we'll play one more. In a moment, I was thinking
maybe we should play the We'll play the King of
an attention since we played the Queen of Escalation.
Speaker 17: All right, sounds good?
Speaker 16: And I have a feeling and not just because of
the royalty presented by the titles, but I have a
feeling these are these are these songs connected? Is this
also a relationship related song?
Speaker 17: Yeah? Yeah? Taking shots at myself this time?
Speaker 16: Ah yes, same same relationship.
Speaker 17: Though, or that and with added context of my son.
Oh okay, he's uh, he's a very bright little boy,
but he's also he's also special needs. Okay, Okay, there's
there has been blame and there has been heartache and
it's been a long road.
Speaker 16: Yeah no, that's that's uh, that's challenging though, So you know, good,
good for you to be able to handle that, Oh,
thank you and absolutely absolutely. And where should people go online?
I want to make sure everyone knows where to find
your music. Where's the best place to go?
Speaker 17: Facebook, Apple, Amazon, pretty much all the little streaming services
that people use and don't. Yeah, yeah, right now. You
can get hold of me pretty much every day on TikTok. Okay,
that's been a big thing at Stephen Michael Dunn. But
I'm always posting wisely done stuff and I'm posting supplication stuff.
Speaker 16: And yeah, excellent, excellent, very good. So we'll we'll hit
that track in a moment. And Jenny, you want to
plug your your website, sure you.
Speaker 20: Can check out more on me gencoffee dot com j
E N N co o f f ui dot com.
And don't forget one of my paintings is hanging at
the Mosaic Art Collective, part of the Full Circle the
Speed of Light Show, which is on exhibit for the month.
Check it out at sixty six Hanover Street here in
the Queen City.
Speaker 16: Yes, and that will be up until the end of September,
the end of the month. Yeah, the painting, yeah, yeah,
very good.
Speaker 20: And they are doing in our call right now. For
the next show on spell Bounds. We'll go check it out,
submit your.
Speaker 16: Work, yes, yes, and let's see so if you miss
any part of today's show and we'll be up in
just a little bit at wmnhradio dot organ in my
website Matt Connorton dot com. Thank you again, of course
to the Forest Forgets for joining us in the first
hour and of course in the second hour we had
justin from four HM Clothing along with Joey Painter here
and really loved speaking with them and Stephen Michael done.
Thank you again so much, my friend for reaching out.
It's great to see you. It's been it's been a
long day as well.
Speaker 17: Yes, absolutely yeah.
Speaker 16: Where do the years go? And as we get older
the time goes quicker if you notice, absolutely it's not
a good thing. It's not a good thing.
Speaker 17: I don't remember. But what did you eat last week? Exactly?
Speaker 15: All right?
Speaker 16: So we will we will close out with this. This
is uh wisely done, is the project, and this is
called King of Inattention.
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