WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.840 --> 00:00:06.519 Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome back to the Gimmick. 2 00:00:07.000 --> 00:00:10.400 I am your host, the Canadian Nightmare. Actually, you know what, 3 00:00:10.439 --> 00:00:13.720 I'm gonna change it, uh, just because you know what 4 00:00:13.800 --> 00:00:18.640 we saw tonight. I am the super Canadian Nightmare because 5 00:00:18.679 --> 00:00:21.600 you know, Cody Rose is like a pokemony fucking evolved tonight. 6 00:00:21.640 --> 00:00:24.559 But I'm joined by the sad wrestling fan, which I 7 00:00:24.559 --> 00:00:27.239 don't disagree with. As far as you can hear my voice, David, 8 00:00:27.280 --> 00:00:28.480 How's how's it going tonight? 9 00:00:28.559 --> 00:00:28.719 Sir? 10 00:00:29.879 --> 00:00:33.159 If you would have asked me between five pm Central 11 00:00:33.200 --> 00:00:37.159 Standard Time and eight forty five pm Central Standard Time, 12 00:00:37.240 --> 00:00:39.640 I would have said it is going amazing. 13 00:00:40.439 --> 00:00:42.960 It's like for punk fans, this title run right before seth. 14 00:00:43.000 --> 00:00:46.039 Cash's like man greatest the if wrestling could just end there, you. 15 00:00:46.000 --> 00:00:49.799 Know, Yeah, I had a thug tear in my eye 16 00:00:49.840 --> 00:00:53.560 followed by just a complete drop in sadness. 17 00:00:56.000 --> 00:00:58.600 Well, yes, we're gonna get right into it at some 18 00:00:58.640 --> 00:01:01.600 point later on. As supposed to join us. He saw 19 00:01:01.679 --> 00:01:04.319 the theaters. We'll get experience there. We'll hear some of 20 00:01:04.359 --> 00:01:07.200 his thoughts, and I'll be interesting here his thoughts as well, 21 00:01:07.200 --> 00:01:09.680 because he's a new fan that a lot of stuff 22 00:01:09.680 --> 00:01:12.120 hasn't happened for and this is, man, what a what 23 00:01:12.200 --> 00:01:14.480 an interesting time. So before we because I'm gonna get 24 00:01:14.480 --> 00:01:16.079 the links out of that before we get into that, 25 00:01:16.079 --> 00:01:18.879 because we're gonna we're talking about all SummerSlam night too. 26 00:01:18.959 --> 00:01:21.040 You can go back before we talk about SummerSlam Night one, 27 00:01:21.120 --> 00:01:23.319 last night and some other stuff. We are going to 28 00:01:23.359 --> 00:01:25.439 talk about all the matches, but we're gonna start off 29 00:01:25.480 --> 00:01:28.120 with the Cody Sen and honestly though, I think we're 30 00:01:28.120 --> 00:01:30.120 probably gonna start with the Brock thing first is the 31 00:01:30.120 --> 00:01:32.799 Elf in the Room. But just as a quick overall, David, 32 00:01:32.840 --> 00:01:34.760 what do you think of Night two of SummerSlam before 33 00:01:34.760 --> 00:01:36.319 we get to the elfin Room? And I think is 34 00:01:36.359 --> 00:01:38.840 gonna dictate at least the first twenty minutes of our 35 00:01:38.879 --> 00:01:41.079 conversation here, So what do you think about the show. 36 00:01:41.319 --> 00:01:45.400 The wrestling, and the event itself in a vacuum of 37 00:01:45.680 --> 00:01:52.319 everything that happened before. The occurrence at the end was amazing. 38 00:01:52.400 --> 00:01:56.400 This was a great night too. Yes, the rematch didn't 39 00:01:56.400 --> 00:01:58.560 live up to her WrestleMania match, but it was still 40 00:01:58.560 --> 00:02:01.920 a good match. The ladder match was a great spot. 41 00:02:02.120 --> 00:02:05.400 Vest Becky and Lyra went way better than I expected. 42 00:02:05.959 --> 00:02:08.560 Dirty Dom was just fun him versus Age. 43 00:02:08.560 --> 00:02:10.159 He just had so many fun moments. 44 00:02:10.280 --> 00:02:14.039 And I loved Cody and Sina and them just both 45 00:02:14.199 --> 00:02:18.319 going above and beyond. They went Super Sam, they went 46 00:02:18.360 --> 00:02:22.639 Super Siyan times too, they went Super Saiyan Blue, they 47 00:02:22.680 --> 00:02:26.319 went Super Saiyan Ultra Instinct. They were just going at 48 00:02:26.360 --> 00:02:30.319 it and it was great. So the matches itself, the 49 00:02:30.360 --> 00:02:33.599 event itself was great, but it is mirrored by the 50 00:02:33.639 --> 00:02:34.560 Blackest Cloud. 51 00:02:34.599 --> 00:02:41.520 For me, Yeah, it's so funny because we talked about 52 00:02:41.520 --> 00:02:44.120 this right last night, and overall, I pretty much agree 53 00:02:44.120 --> 00:02:48.080 with what everything you said. It feels very man. It's 54 00:02:48.120 --> 00:02:52.960 almost not identical because I'll say, because sometimes Summerslam's like 55 00:02:52.960 --> 00:02:55.879 a sequel WrestleMania, and this felt like that in the 56 00:02:55.879 --> 00:02:58.759 same way where Night one for WrestleMania was mostly a 57 00:02:58.759 --> 00:03:00.800 disappointment till the main event, right like the last two 58 00:03:00.800 --> 00:03:02.919 matches I think, but really the main event, I don't 59 00:03:02.919 --> 00:03:05.400 think that happened. Uh, well, that happened last night too 60 00:03:05.479 --> 00:03:07.479 with Gunther and Punk right like same thing. There was 61 00:03:07.520 --> 00:03:09.159 some other matches that were good or fine, but the 62 00:03:09.159 --> 00:03:11.719 main event really saved the show, right and then night two, 63 00:03:11.879 --> 00:03:13.800 same thing. I remember wrestulming night when I was like, oh, 64 00:03:13.840 --> 00:03:15.840 this doesn't feel like WrestleMania's saying the Summer Slam didn't 65 00:03:15.840 --> 00:03:18.639 feel like SummerSlam. Tonight felt like SummerSlam. It felt like 66 00:03:18.719 --> 00:03:20.599 blow Offs, it felt like New Angles, it felt like 67 00:03:21.000 --> 00:03:24.479 Big Time show. And then you get the main event, 68 00:03:24.520 --> 00:03:27.080 which I've said before. I liked the Cony, the Cony 69 00:03:27.159 --> 00:03:30.240 the Cody seen a match before the Traust Scott at wrestling, 70 00:03:30.280 --> 00:03:31.800 which a lot of people don't, but I actually didn't. 71 00:03:31.960 --> 00:03:33.759 I enjoyed it. I like seeing a work and heel. 72 00:03:33.759 --> 00:03:36.039 I thought it was good psychology, and this was good 73 00:03:36.080 --> 00:03:37.759 for a whole different reason we'll talk about. This just 74 00:03:37.759 --> 00:03:40.439 felt like this felt like the end of endgame in 75 00:03:40.479 --> 00:03:43.039 a different way where you know if the wrestling of 76 00:03:43.080 --> 00:03:45.159 forty one or the forty match was the endgame like 77 00:03:45.199 --> 00:03:48.520 Portals moment, this was just like cat like both of 78 00:03:48.520 --> 00:03:51.520 them were at like Captain America looking at Fanos in 79 00:03:51.520 --> 00:03:53.639 his army and just like give me your best show. 80 00:03:53.800 --> 00:03:56.800 You know, like it was ever. They were throwing everything. 81 00:03:56.840 --> 00:04:00.360 It literally was the meme of Super Sena versus and 82 00:04:00.960 --> 00:04:02.520 Super Cody has been meaned on a little bit, but 83 00:04:02.599 --> 00:04:05.039 this was literally Cody becoming Super Cody. Like it was 84 00:04:05.120 --> 00:04:07.680 just like, let's have these guys kill each other and 85 00:04:07.759 --> 00:04:10.520 we'll get there and just talk about our kick out 86 00:04:10.560 --> 00:04:12.439 of all the biggest stuff they've done their career that 87 00:04:12.479 --> 00:04:15.439 people don't kick out of. Right, Oh my god, of 88 00:04:15.479 --> 00:04:17.600 course I got a problem with throat now. But and 89 00:04:17.680 --> 00:04:20.959 then the it's the exact same as wrestlmaniwhere you know, 90 00:04:21.279 --> 00:04:23.839 night two's going good and then the Trascott thing happens 91 00:04:23.879 --> 00:04:26.879 that finish really bad. Same thing here where the match 92 00:04:26.920 --> 00:04:29.560 didn't have that. I thank god they saved this for 93 00:04:29.639 --> 00:04:32.120 after the match. But still it is like a super 94 00:04:32.240 --> 00:04:35.120 dark cloud. And what I was saying was I just 95 00:04:35.120 --> 00:04:38.439 got no vocation because the people I maybe they just 96 00:04:38.439 --> 00:04:40.399 announced it, but it was like, wd's not doing press 97 00:04:40.439 --> 00:04:42.560 conferences anymore. And we told her the last night. So 98 00:04:42.560 --> 00:04:44.319 maybe people don't know me. They said something I don't know, 99 00:04:44.399 --> 00:04:47.000 but it's so funny, and I said this last night. 100 00:04:47.600 --> 00:04:50.839 But the week that Triple H goes to the White 101 00:04:50.879 --> 00:04:53.680 House was a very controversial president and you bring brock 102 00:04:53.759 --> 00:04:56.879 Lesner back. Gee, it's sure funny that they don't want 103 00:04:56.879 --> 00:04:59.680 to do press conferences anymore. And all I'm gonna say, 104 00:05:00.000 --> 00:05:01.480 don't care because I don't think I'm ever gonna work 105 00:05:01.480 --> 00:05:03.639 with this man or interact them that way. To me, 106 00:05:03.759 --> 00:05:05.680 it just feels like Triple H is a big coward. 107 00:05:05.759 --> 00:05:07.319 It feels like he does not want to take any 108 00:05:07.319 --> 00:05:09.480 of those questions. You know why, because he doesn't have 109 00:05:09.519 --> 00:05:11.439 a good response. Now here's what I'm gonna say, because 110 00:05:11.480 --> 00:05:14.839 this is a very tough situation all around, right, because 111 00:05:14.839 --> 00:05:16.800 I think this is the definition of separating the art 112 00:05:16.800 --> 00:05:19.040 from the artists. Don't get me wrong, because I'm the 113 00:05:19.040 --> 00:05:22.160 same thing. There's tons of wrestlers like Cody is my 114 00:05:22.160 --> 00:05:24.800 fair current wrestler. There's tons of wrestlers I like, I'm 115 00:05:24.839 --> 00:05:27.519 still gonna watch WW and that's all the case. We've 116 00:05:27.560 --> 00:05:32.480 talked about some multiple podcasts, like movies like Disney Warner Bros. Like, No, 117 00:05:32.480 --> 00:05:34.319 none of these companies are great or good, Like they 118 00:05:34.319 --> 00:05:37.399 all have bad things they do or support they try 119 00:05:37.439 --> 00:05:39.120 to do. Maybe some good stuff here and there, but 120 00:05:39.199 --> 00:05:41.759 really it's like whether it's layoffs, whether it's supporting certain 121 00:05:41.759 --> 00:05:45.319 bills or presidents or just certain ideologies or stuff like oh, yeah, 122 00:05:45.360 --> 00:05:47.920 you know that series on you know, like the Pixar 123 00:05:48.040 --> 00:05:50.279 like Elio or the baseball thing like oh, there's a 124 00:05:50.319 --> 00:05:52.319 trans character like, oh take that out. Like all these 125 00:05:52.319 --> 00:05:54.480 companies that we love their product, they do bad stuff, 126 00:05:54.560 --> 00:05:58.079 that's right. Unfortunately, if you want to follow a company 127 00:05:58.120 --> 00:06:01.040 that doesn't do any bad stuff, content you could watch 128 00:06:01.160 --> 00:06:07.439 is you know, like like like I guess, you know, 129 00:06:07.759 --> 00:06:09.720 watch the Geek for a studio movies when we make them, 130 00:06:09.720 --> 00:06:11.319 because you know, we support all that stuff. But this 131 00:06:11.439 --> 00:06:15.879 is the thing where for me, this is before they're 132 00:06:15.959 --> 00:06:20.000 always WW has always been a very right republican type 133 00:06:20.000 --> 00:06:22.399 of company, right, and that's fine. I'm not saying anyone's 134 00:06:22.439 --> 00:06:25.120 wrong or right or left or whatever your ideology or whatever. 135 00:06:25.160 --> 00:06:28.959 But this week felt very much like I worried where 136 00:06:29.160 --> 00:06:31.839 UFC always had that vibe, but then they just got 137 00:06:32.399 --> 00:06:35.839 so deep into that type of camp and like those 138 00:06:35.879 --> 00:06:38.920 type of things, and it to me, I was, whatever, 139 00:06:39.079 --> 00:06:41.600 I don't agree, Like I'm not an American honestly, but like, 140 00:06:41.680 --> 00:06:43.839 I don't agree with that president. I would never vote 141 00:06:43.839 --> 00:06:45.839 for him. I think he's a you know, a piece 142 00:06:45.839 --> 00:06:48.480 of trash all that stuff, right, But if they want 143 00:06:48.519 --> 00:06:51.680 to make Triple H the head of whatever physical stuff 144 00:06:51.720 --> 00:06:53.240 and he wants to go over there, that's fine. That's 145 00:06:53.279 --> 00:06:55.800 what's prerogative. It's just funny when Triple S is all 146 00:06:55.839 --> 00:06:57.920 we don't I don't like in political But now I'm 147 00:06:57.959 --> 00:07:01.079 seeing Triple H and Trump on Summer's LAMB both nights, right. 148 00:07:01.519 --> 00:07:04.160 And then you have a guy who he's not on trial, 149 00:07:04.639 --> 00:07:07.319 but he has texts that are going to be possibly 150 00:07:07.319 --> 00:07:09.399 in a trial in a case with the person they 151 00:07:09.399 --> 00:07:11.480 ousted because he was a monster, right, And I'm saying 152 00:07:11.480 --> 00:07:14.439 that because they they pretty much just use that to 153 00:07:14.439 --> 00:07:16.480 get him out. Let's be honest, like they knew a 154 00:07:16.480 --> 00:07:18.240 bunch of show was going on. They want Vince out, 155 00:07:18.240 --> 00:07:20.920 and they got that stuff publicly. If people don't remember this, 156 00:07:21.240 --> 00:07:23.480 when they did a board meeting and they before w 157 00:07:23.720 --> 00:07:27.000 sold the Tico, they had a vote with the board 158 00:07:27.040 --> 00:07:29.959 members of should Vince come back? Triple H, Nick Kahn 159 00:07:30.240 --> 00:07:32.839 and his own daughter, Steph micmahon voted no, he should 160 00:07:32.839 --> 00:07:35.040 not come back. But at that time, Vin's like, I'm 161 00:07:35.040 --> 00:07:37.920 coming back. I got all the power. So that's where 162 00:07:37.920 --> 00:07:39.720 it's like they knew a lot of the stuff. And 163 00:07:39.720 --> 00:07:41.720 to me, this is just like the Trump and the 164 00:07:41.800 --> 00:07:45.279 Lesser thing, where if that stuff alsosly gonna say it's alleged, right, Well, 165 00:07:45.319 --> 00:07:47.680 I'm not gonna say aything's true. But even the fact 166 00:07:47.720 --> 00:07:51.519 that that trial's gonna happen and things are gonna go 167 00:07:51.560 --> 00:07:55.519 down and his name's been all over some really bad stuff. 168 00:07:55.759 --> 00:07:57.839 The fact that you're not even gonna wait till after right, 169 00:07:57.920 --> 00:08:00.160 even if he gets cleared, or even like the if 170 00:08:00.160 --> 00:08:01.839 it's a Depth Amber Herd thing where it's like it's 171 00:08:01.920 --> 00:08:04.800 very mercury, we don't know who did what? Sure depth 172 00:08:04.839 --> 00:08:06.720 you want to do Pirate six there you go. It's 173 00:08:06.759 --> 00:08:09.920 like it's tough to say. This is not even after 174 00:08:09.920 --> 00:08:12.240 that trial or at that's closed. This is them showing, 175 00:08:12.279 --> 00:08:14.759 like what happens if this happens and more were to 176 00:08:14.839 --> 00:08:17.439 come out about brock Lesner and you just look at 177 00:08:17.439 --> 00:08:19.839 an idiot. It's just it's like I said last night 178 00:08:19.879 --> 00:08:22.240 about the Trascoff thing. I thought they'd learned and they haven't. 179 00:08:22.480 --> 00:08:25.279 What happens if the vincecing Everyone's discovery and all this 180 00:08:25.279 --> 00:08:28.079 stuff with Lesner is even worse than we think. And 181 00:08:28.120 --> 00:08:30.120 I don't think it's gonna be. I think those texts 182 00:08:30.120 --> 00:08:32.240 are gonna be pretty much it. But even if those 183 00:08:32.240 --> 00:08:35.240 texts are it, that's not good stuff, Like that's really 184 00:08:35.279 --> 00:08:37.679 bad stuff if that's proven to be true. Right, So 185 00:08:37.720 --> 00:08:40.679 the fact that they're not even waiting with Trump and Leser, 186 00:08:41.120 --> 00:08:44.679 they really showed this week they don't care. They don't care, 187 00:08:44.799 --> 00:08:46.600 they don't care if you're gonna get mad, and that's 188 00:08:46.600 --> 00:08:48.879 why they took away the press conference because they don't care. 189 00:08:48.960 --> 00:08:50.519 Like we don't want to deal with it. We're just 190 00:08:50.559 --> 00:08:53.360 gonna go out there make our money. And that's how 191 00:08:53.360 --> 00:08:55.159 I feel. But I have more points, but I guess 192 00:08:55.159 --> 00:08:56.759 that's how I feel on a personal side. What were 193 00:08:56.759 --> 00:08:59.039 your initial thoughts day when I think we've said about 194 00:08:59.039 --> 00:09:01.720 brock Lester came back. I think we've just said the elephant, 195 00:09:01.720 --> 00:09:04.120 but yes, what happened was Seena's in the ring. Brock's 196 00:09:04.240 --> 00:09:06.919 music hit hits them with an F five. I first 197 00:09:06.919 --> 00:09:09.639 second thought Vince actually was coming out because when brock 198 00:09:09.720 --> 00:09:11.519 Leser went around the ring sign and just paused for 199 00:09:11.600 --> 00:09:14.759 like fifteen seconds, I'm like always waiting for someone else, 200 00:09:15.039 --> 00:09:16.720 and I was like, they're gonna make this a stupid 201 00:09:16.799 --> 00:09:19.519 storyline of oh Sina, and the company turned their back 202 00:09:19.559 --> 00:09:21.559 on it. Like I thought for a second we were 203 00:09:21.559 --> 00:09:24.720 gonna hear no chance, but we didn't. But don't get 204 00:09:24.720 --> 00:09:26.759 me wrong, I think there's a chance in five years 205 00:09:26.759 --> 00:09:28.720 you could you know, and bring them back as a 206 00:09:28.799 --> 00:09:30.960 character like once this thing's over and they pay people 207 00:09:31.000 --> 00:09:33.679 off like I really do. But what were your initial 208 00:09:33.679 --> 00:09:35.360 thoughts when you heard that music? 209 00:09:36.720 --> 00:09:39.279 When I initially heard it, I let out a very 210 00:09:39.320 --> 00:09:45.399 loud F bomb throughout my entire house. I am severely disappointed. 211 00:09:45.600 --> 00:09:49.559 I'm disappointed for multiple reasons. Yes, like you said, separating 212 00:09:49.559 --> 00:09:52.639 the art from the artist. I've known the political leanings 213 00:09:52.679 --> 00:09:56.559 of this company for a very long time, and when 214 00:09:56.639 --> 00:09:58.320 it comes to that, it's one of those things of 215 00:09:59.120 --> 00:10:02.679 I'm on knowing board of directors. I make no contributions 216 00:10:02.720 --> 00:10:07.240 to that. But this week alone, this week alone, you 217 00:10:07.440 --> 00:10:11.919 had Triple h standing in the Oval office next to 218 00:10:12.759 --> 00:10:16.879 someone who is on the sex offender registry lists, which 219 00:10:17.000 --> 00:10:22.639 is Lawrence Taylor Harrison Butker, who as a Kansas City 220 00:10:22.720 --> 00:10:25.919 Chiefs fan, is most known for the fact that he 221 00:10:26.000 --> 00:10:28.720 told women to basically their job is to be in 222 00:10:28.759 --> 00:10:34.399 the kitchen. And a multiple time felon who is running 223 00:10:34.399 --> 00:10:39.200 the country. So you got step one, step two. This week, 224 00:10:39.480 --> 00:10:46.320 all the salutes to out it notorious racist Hulk Hogan 225 00:10:46.799 --> 00:10:48.000 that there. 226 00:10:47.639 --> 00:10:51.919 Is no great area, there there is no well he didn't, no, 227 00:10:52.240 --> 00:10:53.120 he is on tape. 228 00:10:53.159 --> 00:10:56.080 He is admitted, Hey, I messed up things like that, 229 00:10:56.120 --> 00:10:59.000 And now you've brought back someone who is mentioned in 230 00:10:59.080 --> 00:11:04.720 a sexual sought allegation lawsuit as someone who you were 231 00:11:04.799 --> 00:11:08.559 going to be passed off to this man as a 232 00:11:08.720 --> 00:11:13.879 bargaining chip for a contract. That these are the people 233 00:11:15.039 --> 00:11:19.679 that you were bringing in. It chose to me just 234 00:11:19.759 --> 00:11:22.279 kind of where the country as a whole is going, 235 00:11:22.320 --> 00:11:26.159 where the morals in the decency are right out the window. 236 00:11:26.360 --> 00:11:30.320 You did not need brock Lessner for Sena's retirement run. 237 00:11:30.399 --> 00:11:32.480 If we never had, brock Lesner would have been one 238 00:11:32.480 --> 00:11:35.240 of those Yeah, Nope, they did have great matches, but 239 00:11:35.360 --> 00:11:37.720 I could have gone on. He is not one of 240 00:11:37.759 --> 00:11:39.679 the top three names I even think about when I 241 00:11:39.720 --> 00:11:42.039 think about John Cena's biggest rivalries. 242 00:11:42.399 --> 00:11:45.639 So I didn't need this. Yeah did you need this? 243 00:11:45.759 --> 00:11:47.440 And it's sustain to your point. 244 00:11:47.559 --> 00:11:49.279 That is where I was going to continue. But now 245 00:11:49.639 --> 00:11:52.080 we'll move forward because yeah, we're still gonna go as 246 00:11:52.080 --> 00:11:55.480 the fun tablet storm slam, so like kind of curve 247 00:11:55.559 --> 00:11:57.200 away from that. And again I'll say this to you. 248 00:11:57.279 --> 00:12:00.399 Brought the Hogan stuff. If you want to pay tribute 249 00:12:00.399 --> 00:12:02.919 to your childhood here and he inspire you that's so great. 250 00:12:03.080 --> 00:12:05.240 I get that. But at the same time, you can't 251 00:12:05.240 --> 00:12:07.639 be mad about other people not being too sad about 252 00:12:07.679 --> 00:12:10.039 his passing. I'm not trying to wish ill will on anybody. 253 00:12:10.039 --> 00:12:12.039 I'm just saying, like, don't tell me that you should 254 00:12:12.080 --> 00:12:13.919 feel bad, because yeah, sure he did a lot of 255 00:12:13.919 --> 00:12:16.120 great stuff for wrestling, but that does not take away 256 00:12:16.200 --> 00:12:18.279 all the other bad stuff he did. Right, So that's 257 00:12:18.279 --> 00:12:20.399 all I can say is, yep, thanks for putting wrestling 258 00:12:20.440 --> 00:12:22.639 on the map. I'm not gonna miss yet, right, And 259 00:12:22.679 --> 00:12:24.960 that might sound like a mean thing to say, but 260 00:12:25.080 --> 00:12:27.080 like that's where it's like, if you want to have 261 00:12:27.200 --> 00:12:29.879 a if you want to be remembered in a great way, 262 00:12:30.080 --> 00:12:32.320 if you want to be praised by everybody, or even 263 00:12:32.360 --> 00:12:33.799 even if you're not a fan, like I'm trying to 264 00:12:33.799 --> 00:12:35.960 think of a wrestler that I don't. Let's just say 265 00:12:35.960 --> 00:12:37.840 there's wrestler be that like I didn't love would I 266 00:12:37.919 --> 00:12:40.240 pass away? It's like, oh that sucks, Like, you know, 267 00:12:40.399 --> 00:12:42.440 had a good career. I'm sorry for his fans and 268 00:12:42.440 --> 00:12:44.039 his family, Like, good for him. If you want to 269 00:12:44.039 --> 00:12:46.039 be remembered fondly, you got to be a good person, 270 00:12:46.080 --> 00:12:49.200 you don't I do not buy into the like, oh well, 271 00:12:49.240 --> 00:12:51.480 death kind of races everything. It's like, no, you can 272 00:12:51.519 --> 00:12:53.600 still and I get it, you can be. I can 273 00:12:53.720 --> 00:12:58.000 understand you mourning the character of Hulk Hogan, right, I 274 00:12:58.080 --> 00:13:01.080 understand that point the artist art Terry but lea, I'm 275 00:13:01.080 --> 00:13:03.120 not gonna care. So when people are we're getting mad 276 00:13:03.159 --> 00:13:06.120 about all therese memes and there's this and that, it's like, no, man, 277 00:13:06.159 --> 00:13:08.320 maybe you shouldn't have been a shitty person and that wouldn't happen, 278 00:13:08.360 --> 00:13:10.840 you know why, because when fucking like I'm trying to 279 00:13:10.840 --> 00:13:13.120 think what other wrestlers, well, like I don't know when 280 00:13:13.600 --> 00:13:16.320 who recently passed away? That was like on the bigger 281 00:13:16.399 --> 00:13:19.519 scale of people I don't know, and even though not 282 00:13:19.600 --> 00:13:21.639 even a bigger scale, right, it was more tragic. But 283 00:13:21.679 --> 00:13:23.840 even like when Brody Lee passes away, that's or even 284 00:13:23.840 --> 00:13:26.919 bray whyatt right, that's there's no fucking memes of Bray 285 00:13:26.919 --> 00:13:30.000 White this and that, and again who knows people behind 286 00:13:30.039 --> 00:13:31.919 door closed doors could be a shit person. But at 287 00:13:31.960 --> 00:13:33.639 the same point, when Hogan did that stuff, he didn't 288 00:13:33.639 --> 00:13:36.240 go on some big apology tour kind of I would say, 289 00:13:36.240 --> 00:13:38.960 double down, but like subtly doubled down. And that's the 290 00:13:39.000 --> 00:13:41.399 thing where it just feels like even that was them 291 00:13:41.480 --> 00:13:43.720 kind of trying to tell you, like, no, just accept it, 292 00:13:44.120 --> 00:13:46.240 just accept it. And the Trump thing hasn't just accepted. 293 00:13:46.279 --> 00:13:48.200 You know, he's doing work for Trump, and now it's 294 00:13:48.200 --> 00:13:49.759 like I just accept it. And that's the tough thing 295 00:13:49.759 --> 00:13:53.039 because people love Brock Lesard and don't get me wrong, 296 00:13:53.159 --> 00:13:55.919 there are I don't know if i'll say millions, because 297 00:13:55.919 --> 00:13:57.960 I don't know people watch rob. I'll say many people 298 00:13:57.960 --> 00:14:01.440 that watch wrestling that have very little idea about bra. 299 00:14:01.720 --> 00:14:03.759 You were asked them about Brock in this case, they'd 300 00:14:03.759 --> 00:14:06.240 have no idea, like they want Like same way when 301 00:14:06.279 --> 00:14:08.240 we talk about comic movies and stuff, we know all 302 00:14:08.360 --> 00:14:11.720 this rumor and that actor. They'll be like, oh, Henry Calson, 303 00:14:11.720 --> 00:14:14.000 who is Superman movie? He's like, no, that's David Corn says, 304 00:14:14.000 --> 00:14:16.519 oh okay. Like they have no idea. They just consume 305 00:14:16.559 --> 00:14:18.080 and they move on to the next thing. Right, So 306 00:14:18.120 --> 00:14:20.399 there's tons of people, which again I understand if you 307 00:14:20.399 --> 00:14:21.879 don't know any of that stuff and you're just a 308 00:14:21.919 --> 00:14:24.440 fan of wrestling. Sure, I get while you're hyped for Brock. 309 00:14:24.480 --> 00:14:27.279 To me back, but what you said, they're like yeah 310 00:14:27.360 --> 00:14:30.000 for seeing up. But for me, it's like, I don't 311 00:14:30.000 --> 00:14:33.600 think Wanton needs brock Lesser at all. Every month we 312 00:14:33.720 --> 00:14:36.360 do a pl E and they tell me how it's 313 00:14:36.399 --> 00:14:38.960 the biggest pay per view of all time and all 314 00:14:39.000 --> 00:14:43.480 these records and everything like that, And what's the reasoning 315 00:14:43.519 --> 00:14:47.480 for like having to bring Lesner back. I not that 316 00:14:47.559 --> 00:14:50.159 I would understand. But let's say there was a situation 317 00:14:50.279 --> 00:14:52.720 where they had this big high and then WW just 318 00:14:52.799 --> 00:14:55.080 dropped in popularity and like, what do we do, Well, 319 00:14:55.399 --> 00:14:58.039 let's get Brock. But if they are having the best 320 00:14:58.159 --> 00:15:00.519 years they've ever had, then that show to me, Hey, 321 00:15:00.519 --> 00:15:03.279 this current talent is doing it. Your promotion's doing it, 322 00:15:03.360 --> 00:15:06.200 your market's doing You don't need brock Lesnar. You're just 323 00:15:06.200 --> 00:15:07.879 gonna go pay him a bunch of money to show 324 00:15:07.960 --> 00:15:10.840 up and wrestle the same goddamn match. Like I just 325 00:15:11.279 --> 00:15:13.759 I don't understand, That's what I mean. Like, and you 326 00:15:13.799 --> 00:15:17.200 have people like God and Good there's not the same character, 327 00:15:17.200 --> 00:15:20.000 but Goonther can replace him. You have bro bron Breaker. 328 00:15:20.240 --> 00:15:22.919 Bron Breaker is everything you'd want brock Lesner to be 329 00:15:23.399 --> 00:15:27.399 and more. And he's cheaper and he's cheaper than him. Sure, 330 00:15:27.519 --> 00:15:30.000 he doesn't have the star power. But if ww's telling 331 00:15:30.039 --> 00:15:32.080 me that they're the biggest they've ever been, I don't 332 00:15:32.080 --> 00:15:33.879 think you need the star power. This shows that, hey, 333 00:15:33.879 --> 00:15:36.080 your current talent's doing it. So this is why I've 334 00:15:36.120 --> 00:15:38.799 never understood. And this was even before the Vince stuff. 335 00:15:38.840 --> 00:15:41.240 I always was like, I get brought. But it's like 336 00:15:41.279 --> 00:15:43.279 they have the stars now to move past him. They 337 00:15:43.279 --> 00:15:45.960 don't need to do this stuff and I have zero. 338 00:15:46.080 --> 00:15:47.879 And this is where we'll talk. Now, put all that 339 00:15:47.919 --> 00:15:50.600 stuff at the side. If anyone wants to bring it up. Question, sure, 340 00:15:50.639 --> 00:15:53.440 I'll always talk about but just to now talk about wrestling, 341 00:15:54.120 --> 00:15:58.039 like I have no interest in In twenty twenty five 342 00:15:58.480 --> 00:16:02.360 a brock Lesner versus John sena matchup. I remember the 343 00:16:02.399 --> 00:16:04.679 twenty tens. They spam that enough, and you know there's 344 00:16:04.720 --> 00:16:08.000 some fun stuff there, the soulver slam, squash him, Seth 345 00:16:08.480 --> 00:16:12.320 and uh huntering. Should they bring back brock leslon W 346 00:16:12.360 --> 00:16:14.120 two K twenty five. I think they should have brock 347 00:16:14.159 --> 00:16:17.399 lesser at all. Fuck but they could because because this 348 00:16:17.440 --> 00:16:19.320 is what I mean, they know they know they're doing 349 00:16:19.639 --> 00:16:22.519 wrong because remember brock was in the last game and 350 00:16:22.559 --> 00:16:25.279 they took them out. So yeah, sure they'll put them 351 00:16:25.279 --> 00:16:26.879 in there so they can get up another five bucks 352 00:16:26.879 --> 00:16:29.519 from people. I'm not fucking paying for brock Lesnar, but 353 00:16:30.120 --> 00:16:32.440 resident justices they want to cash in another Sena Uh 354 00:16:32.840 --> 00:16:35.639 Leslon nostalgia, I get it, but that's lame as hell. See, 355 00:16:36.039 --> 00:16:38.840 this is what I just I don't get it RG 356 00:16:39.039 --> 00:16:42.120 like I get from a point that just like I 357 00:16:42.279 --> 00:16:45.759 just there's other nostalgia things like they did that already. 358 00:16:45.799 --> 00:16:48.639 They did Randy and Sena or sorry Randy, yeah, Randy, 359 00:16:48.720 --> 00:16:51.360 they did punkin Sena like they're they did like some 360 00:16:51.399 --> 00:16:54.279 of those bigger nostalgias already. And I just feel like Lesnard, 361 00:16:54.279 --> 00:16:58.240 it's like inan you bring Lesner back, like whether it's 362 00:16:58.279 --> 00:17:02.000 with oh God, Seth even goonther right, like that could 363 00:17:02.039 --> 00:17:03.600 be the stuff. But with Seen, it's like there's so 364 00:17:03.639 --> 00:17:06.720 many other routes I want to go with four months 365 00:17:06.799 --> 00:17:09.039 left to Scena, which is not actually four months, it's 366 00:17:09.079 --> 00:17:11.799 a certain amount of dates and stuff like that. But yeah, 367 00:17:11.880 --> 00:17:16.279 I just I this feels I hate to take in 368 00:17:16.319 --> 00:17:18.640 so Mania, but man, it feels very vince like. It 369 00:17:18.640 --> 00:17:20.759 feels like this is what people want, and maybe some 370 00:17:20.799 --> 00:17:24.319 people do, but I have zero interest in this match whatsoever. 371 00:17:24.359 --> 00:17:26.119 This is like a bathroom break match for me now, 372 00:17:26.119 --> 00:17:28.680 and it's gonna main event. Oh, it's gonna make event 373 00:17:28.680 --> 00:17:30.920 like a Saudi show or something. You know it, David, 374 00:17:31.160 --> 00:17:32.440 It's gonna be a Saudi show. 375 00:17:32.480 --> 00:17:34.440 You know it's it's gonna be the Saudi Show. 376 00:17:34.519 --> 00:17:37.799 So again, Oh my god, Jay, don't even say brock 377 00:17:37.920 --> 00:17:41.359 versus Roma again. Don't even put that out in the ether. 378 00:17:41.720 --> 00:17:41.759 No. 379 00:17:42.160 --> 00:17:45.680 No, when you mentioned some of his createst ravelries, you know, 380 00:17:45.759 --> 00:17:49.039 Randy Orton, see him, punk Rock Edge, all come to mind. 381 00:17:49.119 --> 00:17:52.000 Like I said, I wasn't thinking brock Lesner. We've done 382 00:17:52.039 --> 00:17:55.680 the nostalgia run, so this final four months should be 383 00:17:55.839 --> 00:18:00.000 the scena, just having those matches that there's no possible 384 00:18:00.079 --> 00:18:02.039 way we can ever get. You should have the Gunthers, 385 00:18:02.079 --> 00:18:05.680 you should have the bron Breakers, you should have all 386 00:18:05.720 --> 00:18:10.279 of these cool matches that you know this is it. 387 00:18:10.400 --> 00:18:12.960 And then let him go out on a high note. 388 00:18:13.000 --> 00:18:15.319 I mean, put some people over, just have some back 389 00:18:15.359 --> 00:18:18.559 and forth, but let him go out on a high 390 00:18:18.640 --> 00:18:21.799 note and call it a day. We don't need this 391 00:18:22.119 --> 00:18:24.880 right now. You did the nostalgia run. 392 00:18:25.240 --> 00:18:28.039 Yeah, cool, And this is my thing. Like Hunter, I 393 00:18:28.039 --> 00:18:30.920 know he's like Brocklyns versus Jacob too. My problem is 394 00:18:30.960 --> 00:18:35.440 Brock Lesnar multiple times. The matches are just finisher spam matches. 395 00:18:35.480 --> 00:18:38.440 They're not fun to watch. There's no psychology, there's no story. 396 00:18:38.680 --> 00:18:42.079 What happens is Brock will have one like four star 397 00:18:42.200 --> 00:18:44.839 match and then go on two years of having like 398 00:18:45.240 --> 00:18:47.759 three star wrestling matches but five star like oh or 399 00:18:47.839 --> 00:18:49.480 on hype MoES. But like, I don't like a match 400 00:18:49.519 --> 00:18:52.079 where it starts Brock does a couple of Germans, someone 401 00:18:52.160 --> 00:18:54.319