Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome back to the Gimmick.
Speaker 1: I am your host, the Canadian Nightmare. Actually, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna change it, uh, just because you know what
Speaker 1: we saw tonight. I am the super Canadian Nightmare because
Speaker 1: you know, Cody Rose is like a pokemony fucking evolved tonight.
Speaker 1: But I'm joined by the sad wrestling fan, which I
Speaker 1: don't disagree with. As far as you can hear my voice, David,
Speaker 1: How's how's it going tonight?
Speaker 2: Sir?
Speaker 3: If you would have asked me between five pm Central
Speaker 3: Standard Time and eight forty five pm Central Standard Time,
Speaker 3: I would have said it is going amazing.
Speaker 1: It's like for punk fans, this title run right before seth.
Speaker 1: Cash's like man greatest the if wrestling could just end there, you.
Speaker 3: Know, Yeah, I had a thug tear in my eye
Speaker 3: followed by just a complete drop in sadness.
Speaker 1: Well, yes, we're gonna get right into it at some
Speaker 1: point later on. As supposed to join us. He saw
Speaker 1: the theaters. We'll get experience there. We'll hear some of
Speaker 1: his thoughts, and I'll be interesting here his thoughts as well,
Speaker 1: because he's a new fan that a lot of stuff
Speaker 1: hasn't happened for and this is, man, what a what
Speaker 1: an interesting time. So before we because I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: the links out of that before we get into that,
Speaker 1: because we're gonna we're talking about all SummerSlam night too.
Speaker 1: You can go back before we talk about SummerSlam Night one,
Speaker 1: last night and some other stuff. We are going to
Speaker 1: talk about all the matches, but we're gonna start off
Speaker 1: with the Cody Sen and honestly though, I think we're
Speaker 1: probably gonna start with the Brock thing first is the
Speaker 1: Elf in the Room. But just as a quick overall, David,
Speaker 1: what do you think of Night two of SummerSlam before
Speaker 1: we get to the elfin Room? And I think is
Speaker 1: gonna dictate at least the first twenty minutes of our
Speaker 1: conversation here, So what do you think about the show.
Speaker 3: The wrestling, and the event itself in a vacuum of
Speaker 3: everything that happened before. The occurrence at the end was amazing.
Speaker 3: This was a great night too. Yes, the rematch didn't
Speaker 3: live up to her WrestleMania match, but it was still
Speaker 3: a good match. The ladder match was a great spot.
Speaker 3: Vest Becky and Lyra went way better than I expected.
Speaker 3: Dirty Dom was just fun him versus Age.
Speaker 4: He just had so many fun moments.
Speaker 3: And I loved Cody and Sina and them just both
Speaker 3: going above and beyond. They went Super Sam, they went
Speaker 3: Super Siyan times too, they went Super Saiyan Blue, they
Speaker 3: went Super Saiyan Ultra Instinct. They were just going at
Speaker 3: it and it was great. So the matches itself, the
Speaker 3: event itself was great, but it is mirrored by the
Speaker 3: Blackest Cloud.
Speaker 1: For me, Yeah, it's so funny because we talked about
Speaker 1: this right last night, and overall, I pretty much agree
Speaker 1: with what everything you said. It feels very man. It's
Speaker 1: almost not identical because I'll say, because sometimes Summerslam's like
Speaker 1: a sequel WrestleMania, and this felt like that in the
Speaker 1: same way where Night one for WrestleMania was mostly a
Speaker 1: disappointment till the main event, right like the last two
Speaker 1: matches I think, but really the main event, I don't
Speaker 1: think that happened. Uh, well, that happened last night too
Speaker 1: with Gunther and Punk right like same thing. There was
Speaker 1: some other matches that were good or fine, but the
Speaker 1: main event really saved the show, right and then night two,
Speaker 1: same thing. I remember wrestulming night when I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: this doesn't feel like WrestleMania's saying the Summer Slam didn't
Speaker 1: feel like SummerSlam. Tonight felt like SummerSlam. It felt like
Speaker 1: blow Offs, it felt like New Angles, it felt like
Speaker 1: Big Time show. And then you get the main event,
Speaker 1: which I've said before. I liked the Cony, the Cony
Speaker 1: the Cody seen a match before the Traust Scott at wrestling,
Speaker 1: which a lot of people don't, but I actually didn't.
Speaker 1: I enjoyed it. I like seeing a work and heel.
Speaker 1: I thought it was good psychology, and this was good
Speaker 1: for a whole different reason we'll talk about. This just
Speaker 1: felt like this felt like the end of endgame in
Speaker 1: a different way where you know if the wrestling of
Speaker 1: forty one or the forty match was the endgame like
Speaker 1: Portals moment, this was just like cat like both of
Speaker 1: them were at like Captain America looking at Fanos in
Speaker 1: his army and just like give me your best show.
Speaker 1: You know, like it was ever. They were throwing everything.
Speaker 1: It literally was the meme of Super Sena versus and
Speaker 1: Super Cody has been meaned on a little bit, but
Speaker 1: this was literally Cody becoming Super Cody. Like it was
Speaker 1: just like, let's have these guys kill each other and
Speaker 1: we'll get there and just talk about our kick out
Speaker 1: of all the biggest stuff they've done their career that
Speaker 1: people don't kick out of. Right, Oh my god, of
Speaker 1: course I got a problem with throat now. But and
Speaker 1: then the it's the exact same as wrestlmaniwhere you know,
Speaker 1: night two's going good and then the Trascott thing happens
Speaker 1: that finish really bad. Same thing here where the match
Speaker 1: didn't have that. I thank god they saved this for
Speaker 1: after the match. But still it is like a super
Speaker 1: dark cloud. And what I was saying was I just
Speaker 1: got no vocation because the people I maybe they just
Speaker 1: announced it, but it was like, wd's not doing press
Speaker 1: conferences anymore. And we told her the last night. So
Speaker 1: maybe people don't know me. They said something I don't know,
Speaker 1: but it's so funny, and I said this last night.
Speaker 1: But the week that Triple H goes to the White
Speaker 1: House was a very controversial president and you bring brock
Speaker 1: Lesner back. Gee, it's sure funny that they don't want
Speaker 1: to do press conferences anymore. And all I'm gonna say,
Speaker 1: don't care because I don't think I'm ever gonna work
Speaker 1: with this man or interact them that way. To me,
Speaker 1: it just feels like Triple H is a big coward.
Speaker 1: It feels like he does not want to take any
Speaker 1: of those questions. You know why, because he doesn't have
Speaker 1: a good response. Now here's what I'm gonna say, because
Speaker 1: this is a very tough situation all around, right, because
Speaker 1: I think this is the definition of separating the art
Speaker 1: from the artists. Don't get me wrong, because I'm the
Speaker 1: same thing. There's tons of wrestlers like Cody is my
Speaker 1: fair current wrestler. There's tons of wrestlers I like, I'm
Speaker 1: still gonna watch WW and that's all the case. We've
Speaker 1: talked about some multiple podcasts, like movies like Disney Warner Bros. Like, No,
Speaker 1: none of these companies are great or good, Like they
Speaker 1: all have bad things they do or support they try
Speaker 1: to do. Maybe some good stuff here and there, but
Speaker 1: really it's like whether it's layoffs, whether it's supporting certain
Speaker 1: bills or presidents or just certain ideologies or stuff like oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know that series on you know, like the Pixar
Speaker 1: like Elio or the baseball thing like oh, there's a
Speaker 1: trans character like, oh take that out. Like all these
Speaker 1: companies that we love their product, they do bad stuff,
Speaker 1: that's right. Unfortunately, if you want to follow a company
Speaker 1: that doesn't do any bad stuff, content you could watch
Speaker 1: is you know, like like like I guess, you know,
Speaker 1: watch the Geek for a studio movies when we make them,
Speaker 1: because you know, we support all that stuff. But this
Speaker 1: is the thing where for me, this is before they're
Speaker 1: always WW has always been a very right republican type
Speaker 1: of company, right, and that's fine. I'm not saying anyone's
Speaker 1: wrong or right or left or whatever your ideology or whatever.
Speaker 1: But this week felt very much like I worried where
Speaker 1: UFC always had that vibe, but then they just got
Speaker 1: so deep into that type of camp and like those
Speaker 1: type of things, and it to me, I was, whatever,
Speaker 1: I don't agree, Like I'm not an American honestly, but like,
Speaker 1: I don't agree with that president. I would never vote
Speaker 1: for him. I think he's a you know, a piece
Speaker 1: of trash all that stuff, right, But if they want
Speaker 1: to make Triple H the head of whatever physical stuff
Speaker 1: and he wants to go over there, that's fine. That's
Speaker 1: what's prerogative. It's just funny when Triple S is all
Speaker 1: we don't I don't like in political But now I'm
Speaker 1: seeing Triple H and Trump on Summer's LAMB both nights, right.
Speaker 1: And then you have a guy who he's not on trial,
Speaker 1: but he has texts that are going to be possibly
Speaker 1: in a trial in a case with the person they
Speaker 1: ousted because he was a monster, right, And I'm saying
Speaker 1: that because they they pretty much just use that to
Speaker 1: get him out. Let's be honest, like they knew a
Speaker 1: bunch of show was going on. They want Vince out,
Speaker 1: and they got that stuff publicly. If people don't remember this,
Speaker 1: when they did a board meeting and they before w
Speaker 1: sold the Tico, they had a vote with the board
Speaker 1: members of should Vince come back? Triple H, Nick Kahn
Speaker 1: and his own daughter, Steph micmahon voted no, he should
Speaker 1: not come back. But at that time, Vin's like, I'm
Speaker 1: coming back. I got all the power. So that's where
Speaker 1: it's like they knew a lot of the stuff. And
Speaker 1: to me, this is just like the Trump and the
Speaker 1: Lesser thing, where if that stuff alsosly gonna say it's alleged, right, Well,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say aything's true. But even the fact
Speaker 1: that that trial's gonna happen and things are gonna go
Speaker 1: down and his name's been all over some really bad stuff.
Speaker 1: The fact that you're not even gonna wait till after right,
Speaker 1: even if he gets cleared, or even like the if
Speaker 1: it's a Depth Amber Herd thing where it's like it's
Speaker 1: very mercury, we don't know who did what? Sure depth
Speaker 1: you want to do Pirate six there you go. It's
Speaker 1: like it's tough to say. This is not even after
Speaker 1: that trial or at that's closed. This is them showing,
Speaker 1: like what happens if this happens and more were to
Speaker 1: come out about brock Lesner and you just look at
Speaker 1: an idiot. It's just it's like I said last night
Speaker 1: about the Trascoff thing. I thought they'd learned and they haven't.
Speaker 1: What happens if the vincecing Everyone's discovery and all this
Speaker 1: stuff with Lesner is even worse than we think. And
Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna be. I think those texts
Speaker 1: are gonna be pretty much it. But even if those
Speaker 1: texts are it, that's not good stuff, Like that's really
Speaker 1: bad stuff if that's proven to be true. Right, So
Speaker 1: the fact that they're not even waiting with Trump and Leser,
Speaker 1: they really showed this week they don't care. They don't care,
Speaker 1: they don't care if you're gonna get mad, and that's
Speaker 1: why they took away the press conference because they don't care.
Speaker 1: Like we don't want to deal with it. We're just
Speaker 1: gonna go out there make our money. And that's how
Speaker 1: I feel. But I have more points, but I guess
Speaker 1: that's how I feel on a personal side. What were
Speaker 1: your initial thoughts day when I think we've said about
Speaker 1: brock Lester came back. I think we've just said the elephant,
Speaker 1: but yes, what happened was Seena's in the ring. Brock's
Speaker 1: music hit hits them with an F five. I first
Speaker 1: second thought Vince actually was coming out because when brock
Speaker 1: Leser went around the ring sign and just paused for
Speaker 1: like fifteen seconds, I'm like always waiting for someone else,
Speaker 1: and I was like, they're gonna make this a stupid
Speaker 1: storyline of oh Sina, and the company turned their back
Speaker 1: on it. Like I thought for a second we were
Speaker 1: gonna hear no chance, but we didn't. But don't get
Speaker 1: me wrong, I think there's a chance in five years
Speaker 1: you could you know, and bring them back as a
Speaker 1: character like once this thing's over and they pay people
Speaker 1: off like I really do. But what were your initial
Speaker 1: thoughts when you heard that music?
Speaker 3: When I initially heard it, I let out a very
Speaker 3: loud F bomb throughout my entire house. I am severely disappointed.
Speaker 3: I'm disappointed for multiple reasons. Yes, like you said, separating
Speaker 3: the art from the artist. I've known the political leanings
Speaker 3: of this company for a very long time, and when
Speaker 3: it comes to that, it's one of those things of
Speaker 3: I'm on knowing board of directors. I make no contributions
Speaker 3: to that. But this week alone, this week alone, you
Speaker 3: had Triple h standing in the Oval office next to
Speaker 3: someone who is on the sex offender registry lists, which
Speaker 3: is Lawrence Taylor Harrison Butker, who as a Kansas City
Speaker 3: Chiefs fan, is most known for the fact that he
Speaker 3: told women to basically their job is to be in
Speaker 3: the kitchen. And a multiple time felon who is running
Speaker 3: the country. So you got step one, step two. This week,
Speaker 3: all the salutes to out it notorious racist Hulk Hogan
Speaker 3: that there.
Speaker 4: Is no great area, there there is no well he didn't, no,
Speaker 4: he is on tape.
Speaker 3: He is admitted, Hey, I messed up things like that,
Speaker 3: And now you've brought back someone who is mentioned in
Speaker 3: a sexual sought allegation lawsuit as someone who you were
Speaker 3: going to be passed off to this man as a
Speaker 3: bargaining chip for a contract. That these are the people
Speaker 3: that you were bringing in. It chose to me just
Speaker 3: kind of where the country as a whole is going,
Speaker 3: where the morals in the decency are right out the window.
Speaker 3: You did not need brock Lessner for Sena's retirement run.
Speaker 3: If we never had, brock Lesner would have been one
Speaker 3: of those Yeah, Nope, they did have great matches, but
Speaker 3: I could have gone on. He is not one of
Speaker 3: the top three names I even think about when I
Speaker 3: think about John Cena's biggest rivalries.
Speaker 4: So I didn't need this. Yeah did you need this?
Speaker 4: And it's sustain to your point.
Speaker 1: That is where I was going to continue. But now
Speaker 1: we'll move forward because yeah, we're still gonna go as
Speaker 1: the fun tablet storm slam, so like kind of curve
Speaker 1: away from that. And again I'll say this to you.
Speaker 1: Brought the Hogan stuff. If you want to pay tribute
Speaker 1: to your childhood here and he inspire you that's so great.
Speaker 1: I get that. But at the same time, you can't
Speaker 1: be mad about other people not being too sad about
Speaker 1: his passing. I'm not trying to wish ill will on anybody.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like, don't tell me that you should
Speaker 1: feel bad, because yeah, sure he did a lot of
Speaker 1: great stuff for wrestling, but that does not take away
Speaker 1: all the other bad stuff he did. Right, So that's
Speaker 1: all I can say is, yep, thanks for putting wrestling
Speaker 1: on the map. I'm not gonna miss yet, right, And
Speaker 1: that might sound like a mean thing to say, but
Speaker 1: like that's where it's like, if you want to have
Speaker 1: a if you want to be remembered in a great way,
Speaker 1: if you want to be praised by everybody, or even
Speaker 1: even if you're not a fan, like I'm trying to
Speaker 1: think of a wrestler that I don't. Let's just say
Speaker 1: there's wrestler be that like I didn't love would I
Speaker 1: pass away? It's like, oh that sucks, Like, you know,
Speaker 1: had a good career. I'm sorry for his fans and
Speaker 1: his family, Like, good for him. If you want to
Speaker 1: be remembered fondly, you got to be a good person,
Speaker 1: you don't I do not buy into the like, oh well,
Speaker 1: death kind of races everything. It's like, no, you can
Speaker 1: still and I get it, you can be. I can
Speaker 1: understand you mourning the character of Hulk Hogan, right, I
Speaker 1: understand that point the artist art Terry but lea, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna care. So when people are we're getting mad
Speaker 1: about all therese memes and there's this and that, it's like, no, man,
Speaker 1: maybe you shouldn't have been a shitty person and that wouldn't happen,
Speaker 1: you know why, because when fucking like I'm trying to
Speaker 1: think what other wrestlers, well, like I don't know when
Speaker 1: who recently passed away? That was like on the bigger
Speaker 1: scale of people I don't know, and even though not
Speaker 1: even a bigger scale, right, it was more tragic. But
Speaker 1: even like when Brody Lee passes away, that's or even
Speaker 1: bray whyatt right, that's there's no fucking memes of Bray
Speaker 1: White this and that, and again who knows people behind
Speaker 1: door closed doors could be a shit person. But at
Speaker 1: the same point, when Hogan did that stuff, he didn't
Speaker 1: go on some big apology tour kind of I would say,
Speaker 1: double down, but like subtly doubled down. And that's the
Speaker 1: thing where it just feels like even that was them
Speaker 1: kind of trying to tell you, like, no, just accept it,
Speaker 1: just accept it. And the Trump thing hasn't just accepted.
Speaker 1: You know, he's doing work for Trump, and now it's
Speaker 1: like I just accept it. And that's the tough thing
Speaker 1: because people love Brock Lesard and don't get me wrong,
Speaker 1: there are I don't know if i'll say millions, because
Speaker 1: I don't know people watch rob. I'll say many people
Speaker 1: that watch wrestling that have very little idea about bra.
Speaker 1: You were asked them about Brock in this case, they'd
Speaker 1: have no idea, like they want Like same way when
Speaker 1: we talk about comic movies and stuff, we know all
Speaker 1: this rumor and that actor. They'll be like, oh, Henry Calson,
Speaker 1: who is Superman movie? He's like, no, that's David Corn says,
Speaker 1: oh okay. Like they have no idea. They just consume
Speaker 1: and they move on to the next thing. Right, So
Speaker 1: there's tons of people, which again I understand if you
Speaker 1: don't know any of that stuff and you're just a
Speaker 1: fan of wrestling. Sure, I get while you're hyped for Brock.
Speaker 1: To me back, but what you said, they're like yeah
Speaker 1: for seeing up. But for me, it's like, I don't
Speaker 1: think Wanton needs brock Lesser at all. Every month we
Speaker 1: do a pl E and they tell me how it's
Speaker 1: the biggest pay per view of all time and all
Speaker 1: these records and everything like that, And what's the reasoning
Speaker 1: for like having to bring Lesner back. I not that
Speaker 1: I would understand. But let's say there was a situation
Speaker 1: where they had this big high and then WW just
Speaker 1: dropped in popularity and like, what do we do, Well,
Speaker 1: let's get Brock. But if they are having the best
Speaker 1: years they've ever had, then that show to me, Hey,
Speaker 1: this current talent is doing it. Your promotion's doing it,
Speaker 1: your market's doing You don't need brock Lesnar. You're just
Speaker 1: gonna go pay him a bunch of money to show
Speaker 1: up and wrestle the same goddamn match. Like I just
Speaker 1: I don't understand, That's what I mean. Like, and you
Speaker 1: have people like God and Good there's not the same character,
Speaker 1: but Goonther can replace him. You have bro bron Breaker.
Speaker 1: Bron Breaker is everything you'd want brock Lesner to be
Speaker 1: and more. And he's cheaper and he's cheaper than him. Sure,
Speaker 1: he doesn't have the star power. But if ww's telling
Speaker 1: me that they're the biggest they've ever been, I don't
Speaker 1: think you need the star power. This shows that, hey,
Speaker 1: your current talent's doing it. So this is why I've
Speaker 1: never understood. And this was even before the Vince stuff.
Speaker 1: I always was like, I get brought. But it's like
Speaker 1: they have the stars now to move past him. They
Speaker 1: don't need to do this stuff and I have zero.
Speaker 1: And this is where we'll talk. Now, put all that
Speaker 1: stuff at the side. If anyone wants to bring it up. Question, sure,
Speaker 1: I'll always talk about but just to now talk about wrestling,
Speaker 1: like I have no interest in In twenty twenty five
Speaker 1: a brock Lesner versus John sena matchup. I remember the
Speaker 1: twenty tens. They spam that enough, and you know there's
Speaker 1: some fun stuff there, the soulver slam, squash him, Seth
Speaker 1: and uh huntering. Should they bring back brock leslon W
Speaker 1: two K twenty five. I think they should have brock
Speaker 1: lesser at all. Fuck but they could because because this
Speaker 1: is what I mean, they know they know they're doing
Speaker 1: wrong because remember brock was in the last game and
Speaker 1: they took them out. So yeah, sure they'll put them
Speaker 1: in there so they can get up another five bucks
Speaker 1: from people. I'm not fucking paying for brock Lesnar, but
Speaker 1: resident justices they want to cash in another Sena Uh
Speaker 1: Leslon nostalgia, I get it, but that's lame as hell. See,
Speaker 1: this is what I just I don't get it RG
Speaker 1: like I get from a point that just like I
Speaker 1: just there's other nostalgia things like they did that already.
Speaker 1: They did Randy and Sena or sorry Randy, yeah, Randy,
Speaker 1: they did punkin Sena like they're they did like some
Speaker 1: of those bigger nostalgias already. And I just feel like Lesnard,
Speaker 1: it's like inan you bring Lesner back, like whether it's
Speaker 1: with oh God, Seth even goonther right, like that could
Speaker 1: be the stuff. But with Seen, it's like there's so
Speaker 1: many other routes I want to go with four months
Speaker 1: left to Scena, which is not actually four months, it's
Speaker 1: a certain amount of dates and stuff like that. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I just I this feels I hate to take in
Speaker 1: so Mania, but man, it feels very vince like. It
Speaker 1: feels like this is what people want, and maybe some
Speaker 1: people do, but I have zero interest in this match whatsoever.
Speaker 1: This is like a bathroom break match for me now,
Speaker 1: and it's gonna main event. Oh, it's gonna make event
Speaker 1: like a Saudi show or something. You know it, David,
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a Saudi show.
Speaker 4: You know it's it's gonna be the Saudi Show.
Speaker 1: So again, Oh my god, Jay, don't even say brock
Speaker 1: versus Roma again. Don't even put that out in the ether.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 3: No, when you mentioned some of his createst ravelries, you know,
Speaker 3: Randy Orton, see him, punk Rock Edge, all come to mind.
Speaker 3: Like I said, I wasn't thinking brock Lesner. We've done
Speaker 3: the nostalgia run, so this final four months should be
Speaker 3: the scena, just having those matches that there's no possible
Speaker 3: way we can ever get. You should have the Gunthers,
Speaker 3: you should have the bron Breakers, you should have all
Speaker 3: of these cool matches that you know this is it.
Speaker 4: And then let him go out on a high note.
Speaker 3: I mean, put some people over, just have some back
Speaker 3: and forth, but let him go out on a high
Speaker 3: note and call it a day. We don't need this
Speaker 3: right now. You did the nostalgia run.
Speaker 1: Yeah, cool, And this is my thing. Like Hunter, I
Speaker 1: know he's like Brocklyns versus Jacob too. My problem is
Speaker 1: Brock Lesnar multiple times. The matches are just finisher spam matches.
Speaker 1: They're not fun to watch. There's no psychology, there's no story.
Speaker 1: What happens is Brock will have one like four star
Speaker 1: match and then go on two years of having like
Speaker 1: three star wrestling matches but five star like oh or
Speaker 1: on hype MoES. But like, I don't like a match
Speaker 1: where it starts Brock does a couple of Germans, someone
Speaker 1: hits the movie, then F five the kickout, F five
Speaker 1: the kickout, like it's just like there was a time
Speaker 1: place and that's what happened, which was so bad. They
Speaker 1: did that with the Brock match and that worked because
Speaker 1: that was shocking Scena. That was super Sena and he
Speaker 1: got ragged all and then when that worked, they thought, oh,
Speaker 1: we can do this for almost every match, and some
Speaker 1: it worked, but some it can't. You know, That's that's
Speaker 1: the issue. So Artie says, if I were to guess
Speaker 1: they want a huge match for Perth since it's seen,
Speaker 1: it going to be for me. It's like the huge
Speaker 1: matches seeing Sena. You know you were seen it, Gus,
Speaker 1: there is a big match for me.
Speaker 3: Sina bron Breaker is a good match for me, Like
Speaker 3: those would have sold me on watching the Perth Show,
Speaker 3: Like Sena versus any of these big new guys would
Speaker 3: have been amazing. Hell, you can even had Solo come
Speaker 3: back and say challenge him one more time, Like I
Speaker 3: would have rather seen that than That's.
Speaker 1: The thing where it's just like, to me, the big
Speaker 1: match is just you're seeing John Cena live in this
Speaker 1: city for the last time, you know, Like that's the
Speaker 1: selling point. So I just don't buy it. And Arie said,
Speaker 1: you don't get what's changed right for the video game,
Speaker 1: He's still named lawsuit because of who's in all. I know,
Speaker 1: people don't want to like Somebvie are gonna want all
Speaker 1: the political stuff. But like we live in a world
Speaker 1: where Vince McMahon could just get pardoned by Trump if
Speaker 1: you really want, like in a like in a day
Speaker 1: or two, like like if they really want to go away.
Speaker 1: So that's why it's like with Broad none of that
Speaker 1: stuff's really gonna be an issue. And this is why
Speaker 1: to me, they're showing like they don't care and it's
Speaker 1: full UFC. It's full Danaway and Joe Rogan being there
Speaker 1: for Trump's inaugural speech and all that stuff, like they're
Speaker 1: just showing we don't care because we'll just do what
Speaker 1: you want him. Yeah, great, yeah, he's the present, right,
Speaker 1: you can do what you want. But that's what you know,
Speaker 1: some people voted for. It's just kind of lack of
Speaker 1: accountability because hey, you could maybe be a part of
Speaker 1: a sexual harassment case. But if you draw a lot
Speaker 1: of money, brother, then we'll clear that right up. Don't
Speaker 1: you worry.
Speaker 3: You know, had had Vince and Linda still been on
Speaker 3: good terms, I bet you he would have gotten pardoned
Speaker 3: by now.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, and I still don't even think that it's
Speaker 1: out of the question, to be honest, right, Like, I
Speaker 1: don't even think like like this to me is starting
Speaker 1: to show like man, they're dipping their they're dipping their
Speaker 1: toes because they just show like, oh.
Speaker 3: It's just and And I would not be surprised if
Speaker 3: at some point while Triple Ash was in that Oval office,
Speaker 3: Trump turned to him and.
Speaker 4: Said, hey, you guys should get that brock guy back.
Speaker 4: I really liked seeing him. And the next thing, you know.
Speaker 3: This is what we do get it getting him booked
Speaker 3: over because that that's what was requested of him again,
Speaker 3: it is it's not a good look. It's not needed
Speaker 3: for this. Nothing about this is okay, and it just
Speaker 3: casts a black cloud that just it wasn't needed right now,
Speaker 3: like tell your stories, do good business, and this is
Speaker 3: not needed right now.
Speaker 1: And that's the thing I argue. That's it, Like I
Speaker 1: completely agree. If we only have four months of seeing
Speaker 1: a left itself entire month of a you know, waste
Speaker 1: to a Brock, a build to a Brock match, and yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the problem that that's just that's where it's very
Speaker 1: Vince Like, I'm like, this is what they want to see.
Speaker 1: It's like I don't like, of course there's somebody in
Speaker 1: the world that wants to see that. I just think,
Speaker 1: same thing for your talent overall, Like it almost something
Speaker 1: his young guy. Get my boy Carmelo Hayes in there
Speaker 1: for a match, and I get But again, to me,
Speaker 1: it's just like see us at the main event picture
Speaker 1: now other than his last match, I maybe him Brock
Speaker 1: my goal last because it's Brock, but I don't think
Speaker 1: he's gonna main event loss stuff. But you can have
Speaker 1: him open or just be a big mid card match.
Speaker 1: And that's where man, they jinxed themselves and we'll see
Speaker 1: what happens. But that clip of in unreal when Sina's like, well,
Speaker 1: you know, you'd really have to fuck up the last
Speaker 1: page of the book to ruin all the rest of
Speaker 1: the other pages, and man, Triple H and company are
Speaker 1: doing a sure hell good job doing it because the
Speaker 1: heel turn that was such a disaster. The heel run
Speaker 1: oh sorry, he'll turn was good, but the fall up
Speaker 1: was a disaster. Yeah, and then the occurring months after that.
Speaker 1: And I still even think the way they just rid
Speaker 1: off because that's what happened with promo. He just said, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm a baby face Now, that's super weird. This match
Speaker 1: alone in a bubble is great now, And I think, David,
Speaker 1: you agree with me retroactively now, I wish we just
Speaker 1: got seen Cody babyface and this was the Mania match.
Speaker 1: I wish they just did this and then it wouldn't
Speaker 1: have felt as bad scene and Brocas like, oh, he's been
Speaker 1: doing a bunch of other stuff with you know, other
Speaker 1: whether it's or or punk, but like other good guy
Speaker 1: nostalls and stuff, this is match they should have had,
Speaker 1: Maniac because we'll talk about the match, but the match
Speaker 1: was a kick ass to me, It's like a five
Speaker 1: at a five enjoyment match. Not technical, but like they
Speaker 1: just through everything. It was a great time. It was
Speaker 1: just fun.
Speaker 3: And this literally did fun moment see coming up through
Speaker 3: the Code Invader, Like I couldn't see that. They were
Speaker 3: just had the spots in the crowd. They were just
Speaker 3: having fun at points, you know, choking him out with
Speaker 3: the rope everything else like that.
Speaker 4: They were they were going in.
Speaker 3: It was a great match, And I mean, and it
Speaker 3: is sad that my memory of this match is gonna
Speaker 3: be the ending, because no, it was fun.
Speaker 4: It was fun from the entrances on man.
Speaker 3: I absolutely love Cody's entrance with the Dusty promo and
Speaker 3: the use of his line about from the hard Times
Speaker 3: about this is for the man you know, lost his
Speaker 3: job after ten twelve.
Speaker 4: Years, like all of that.
Speaker 3: It just I was like, man, if you're gonna come
Speaker 3: out to Dusty, you better be winning.
Speaker 4: And they just went prime tip for the test it.
Speaker 3: You know, a lot of people were saying that this
Speaker 3: was a Superman versus Superman, or some people say it
Speaker 3: was Superman Superman found his Ultra Man. I'm like, nah, man,
Speaker 3: this is Superman versus home Land or not be here
Speaker 3: for Yeah, and this thing.
Speaker 1: Like Cody played up It's funny he played up bike.
Speaker 1: He did his new Japan like he'll face a little bit.
Speaker 1: But when he was doing I was like, ah, your
Speaker 1: heart's not fully in this. That's how I knew he
Speaker 1: was at turning heel too, because his face just looked
Speaker 1: like I don't want to like fully get there. But
Speaker 1: he did some isms and yeah, that's the thing where
Speaker 1: it's tough too, Casina. Even the first like step bump
Speaker 1: either he was really good song, which he could be,
Speaker 1: but he took that stemp bump and he was like
Speaker 1: moving a little song. I was like, oh man, that's
Speaker 1: a tough way to start. But that's the thing where
Speaker 1: this is like this should have been like snos, like
Speaker 1: this should have been seen as les match and this
Speaker 1: to be felt like a literal. We talked about the
Speaker 1: Discord super scene passing the torch to Cody, not as
Speaker 1: like a future but like as the like you're super
Speaker 1: coding now, like you can like the STF with the
Speaker 1: rope seen it always beat people that, like people wouldn't
Speaker 1: get out of it the avalanche AA, people don't kick
Speaker 1: out of that. So it's like and saying that the
Speaker 1: three Crossroads people don't kick out of that crossroads to
Speaker 1: the table.
Speaker 4: I mean like all of this was the cutter. Yeah,
Speaker 4: they cut the table.
Speaker 1: It was just they pulled it off. It was like
Speaker 1: so fun. And that's the thing. Argie says, how do
Speaker 1: you think any sponsors are gonna feel about Leslid being back?
Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna care, to be honest, most
Speaker 1: of them.
Speaker 4: I think most they're making money. They don't care.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that it's the same way as studios,
Speaker 1: movie studios and all this stuff like it. It doesn't
Speaker 1: really matter. And that's the thing where it's gonna be
Speaker 1: interesting to see and maybe it won't be anything at all.
Speaker 1: If the town's just like whatever, I want the money,
Speaker 1: that's cool. But you had a week where some wrestlers
Speaker 1: were saying how they'd be pissed if you were working
Speaker 1: the whole sef thing that does work. And you know
Speaker 1: a lot of people did not know BRONC was coming back.
Speaker 1: It's the reason they're not doing press Cone does anymore.
Speaker 1: Because Triple Ah's just talking his tails behind his legs.
Speaker 1: He's no good answer. He has no he has nothing
Speaker 1: to say, or he's a legal issue and I don't
Speaker 1: want to talk about the same way. It's like when
Speaker 1: all the Vince stuff broke and they're like, hey, you
Speaker 1: read the documents, Like, oh yeah, I just don't have
Speaker 1: time for that. You're telling me your father in law
Speaker 1: and like the owner of the company is going through
Speaker 1: something and you as like second in command. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I just don't got time to read those very important documents.
Speaker 1: It's like, fuck off Man's your.
Speaker 3: Chief content officer and you haven't read the documents that
Speaker 3: are affecting your because you have to put out this content.
Speaker 3: People are going to be showing up with signs and
Speaker 3: booing and everything else. You had to have read something.
Speaker 1: And this is where it's so funny. This fells like
Speaker 1: a little like like a calm before the storm because
Speaker 1: I want to rant. Last episode with the punk sauty stuff.
Speaker 1: That was a sign for me too. We're punk. When
Speaker 1: I was a young like punk it like I didn't
Speaker 1: drink and do drugs before. But when I saw seeing
Speaker 1: Punk the wrestler, he was the first person I ever
Speaker 1: heard hear the word straight edge. I was like, man,
Speaker 1: this guy's speaks to me and then all the years
Speaker 1: obviously Pipe Bumba, the stuff after that felt like when
Speaker 1: he said something he meant and it's like, man, this
Speaker 1: guy is a true rebel and I can ride with him.
Speaker 1: I still ride with him as a character and a wrestler,
Speaker 1: but as the guy to say all this stuff. But
Speaker 1: then he just bent the knee to be at the
Speaker 1: Hoguean tribute. He bent the because here's the funny thing.
Speaker 1: Roman was at Raw he wasn't. I'm not saying Rome's
Speaker 1: like a good guy. I'm just saying he fucking big
Speaker 1: lead them, and he wasn't at the Hogan tribute, you know.
Speaker 1: And even then when Punk bend the knee and went
Speaker 1: to Saudi, that's where it's like, sure, I bet the
Speaker 1: talent might be pissed, but they're probably get to bend
Speaker 1: the knee. And if they aren't, then you know what,
Speaker 1: at least that's a good thing. There is a second
Speaker 1: viable company. I'm not saying AW will this will make
Speaker 1: aw blow up and challenge them. No, I'm just saying
Speaker 1: that there's another company that is successful and can pay
Speaker 1: you well. So if enough people think, you know what,
Speaker 1: this isn't for me, they can get either and that's
Speaker 1: why I'm so thankful for AW not making it oh
Speaker 1: aw so much better today because I'm sure they've done
Speaker 1: some badger too, but I just think I and not
Speaker 1: as bad as the brock Fin stuff I feel, but
Speaker 1: like that's where it's like, I'm just happy there is
Speaker 1: another place for me as a view, but also the
Speaker 1: talent because it's not just one big fish and we're
Speaker 1: kind of screwed right and it's just I don't know,
Speaker 1: but yeah, there's it's no daw that no talent new
Speaker 1: because they just want to because again, this guy is
Speaker 1: involved in a trial about sexual harassment maybe sexual assault,
Speaker 1: and Triple H wants to be on unreal, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: the women are the backbone in this company the most possible.
Speaker 1: It's like same thing like you said, like even if
Speaker 1: he agreed, like he doesn't think these people did these things.
Speaker 1: To have three daughters and be standing beside some of
Speaker 1: those guys, it's like, dude, like it's such a bad
Speaker 1: look and it's it's just so funny. I feel like, man,
Speaker 1: Triple AH twenty took over was like the savior of WW,
Speaker 1: but man, his legacy is just getting hurt and hurt,
Speaker 1: like every month as it goes on and stuff he
Speaker 1: doesn't even need to do. He doesn't. He can say,
Speaker 1: you know what, Trump, that's really like, that's great and all,
Speaker 1: but like I just don't want to. I don't want to,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't. You can just say I'm busy,
Speaker 1: I have too much. I want to spend time with
Speaker 1: my girls whatever.
Speaker 3: We got Summer Slam this weekend, so I can't make it.
Speaker 3: I support it, but I can't make it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like lend him in Man's enough. But it's like
Speaker 1: what you like just to say. But that's where it's
Speaker 1: like they don't care. They're full UFC. They don't care.
Speaker 1: They're gonna show it off. They're full in the maga
Speaker 1: mode and everything. And that's where it's like to me,
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, but Gergy, this is the different
Speaker 1: thing you say is like Marvel that bring back old
Speaker 1: actors for different roles. Sure, but the good thing about
Speaker 1: uh Captain America is when Chris Evans comes back in
Speaker 1: Doomsday and he's playing Captain America, the Captain America character,
Speaker 1: I don't need to worry. Gee did he was he
Speaker 1: a part of sexually assaulting an employee? Like like that's
Speaker 1: not the thing and not the bay say the same.
Speaker 1: But look at what they did with Majors. When there's
Speaker 1: one guilty thing, they're like, hey, we got to part
Speaker 1: ways and get the hell out of there, and that
Speaker 1: they didn't even recast that role. They just got rid
Speaker 1: of King, which I disagreed with. I thought you should
Speaker 1: recast King. I love it.
Speaker 3: We're going in a completely differ We are scrapping our
Speaker 3: entire ten year plan and going in a different direction
Speaker 3: because I don't worry.
Speaker 1: We always planned that.
Speaker 3: We always you have you have an open case and
Speaker 3: we don't want to be associated with this, so.
Speaker 1: And don't get wrout. Yeah, one hundred, that's exactly what
Speaker 1: it is, like right, it is when they bring back
Speaker 1: those people is like the old backers. I get that
Speaker 1: just this has a lot of baggage, but again it's
Speaker 1: just the fact of like it's tough. But for me,
Speaker 1: we still cut to the show. I'll be watching big events,
Speaker 1: but it does make me like less inclined to like
Speaker 1: watch all the stuff now right or support them as much.
Speaker 1: And that's the stuff that happens, which I don't think
Speaker 1: is gonna happen. But it was more creative, but That's
Speaker 1: how AW did get born. When W got so bad
Speaker 1: and people are like, I'm just done with this company,
Speaker 1: tons of people stop watching. They move over to New Japan,
Speaker 1: and then they created that company again. I'm not WW
Speaker 1: is Disney. Ww's never gonna go out of business, like
Speaker 1: in the next one hundred years. They are a mega
Speaker 1: ton like they are fun. I'm not saying that. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying is you do hurt your fan base. And
Speaker 1: the thing about it is is right now they got
Speaker 1: a lot of general audience people. Right there will be
Speaker 1: a time like always in wrestling at ebbs and flows,
Speaker 1: where general audience people will bounce away and then they'll go,
Speaker 1: oh crap, we lost a lot of our general audience and
Speaker 1: then we lost a lot of our hardcorees. What do
Speaker 1: we do? And that happened with AW. That's when they
Speaker 1: started doing the like paying FTR overpaid because like they
Speaker 1: don't want we don't want you to go into or
Speaker 1: gals on hands, like we don't watch you go on
Speaker 1: to AW, and then they still fire them like all
Speaker 1: the stuff. And if people don't forget like or don't remember,
Speaker 1: like AW was getting close to getting to certain raw numbers.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna be like that now, but
Speaker 1: you never know it ebbs and flows and stuff like this,
Speaker 1: But it depends how much of a big, you know,
Speaker 1: push it is. But this doesn't leave me wanting to watch.
Speaker 1: This was not like, oh, I can't wait for Monday
Speaker 1: Night Raw. It's like, uh, And I've had a lot
Speaker 1: of that lately with WW, whether it's the punk stuff
Speaker 1: other just creative stuff and even just just on a
Speaker 1: pure creative level, this John Cena thing is bad. This
Speaker 1: whole retirement run is bad. This is Triple H's worst
Speaker 1: whoever it is Triple H. You know he's the final,
Speaker 1: say guy, this is his worst run, and this is
Speaker 1: something you're gonna look at. It is like you really
Speaker 1: fucked this up. Like this was really bad. And like
Speaker 1: I give Cody and Seeing all the credit for this match.
Speaker 1: I'm not giving it to Papa Age like they like
Speaker 1: that's the thing where and even if it's not his idea,
Speaker 1: he went with it. And I don't care if it
Speaker 1: was the rock this and that, like tons of stuff
Speaker 1: like this is gonna be a real bad look on
Speaker 1: him as far as just like creative wise, not even
Speaker 1: on the real life stuff. Just creative wise, it's just, oh,
Speaker 1: it just sucks. But and it sucks too because the
Speaker 1: match was great. They had a phenomenal match, a great
Speaker 1: SummerSlam main event. I was completely fine with a going off,
Speaker 1: and you know, Piro, everything I loved, just little stuff
Speaker 1: that they hugged, they shook hands, he pretty much did
Speaker 1: the You know, how is his run bad? Because I'm
Speaker 1: talking Pete, I don't know how to say your last name, Paul,
Speaker 1: so I'll just call you Pete. So I don't want
Speaker 1: to screw up to be disrespectful because to me, it's
Speaker 1: just like movies, it's all subjective, right or yeah, it's
Speaker 1: all subjective, you know, like Ray from the Flight Cat
Speaker 1: says to me, it like the if I guess you
Speaker 1: can say the scene of heel run was great, that's
Speaker 1: up to you. I'm not even talking about the brock
Speaker 1: Lesser thing. I'm talking about from Rumble to you when
Speaker 1: Cody Pindam just that sequence right there, there's so much
Speaker 1: bad stuff in there that just sucks, you know, And
Speaker 1: that's great. P You say he was entertaining cl Now
Speaker 1: his coys turned running back and carry the bell because
Speaker 1: he was gone. And that's where I disagree, and obviously
Speaker 1: many people do. I don't think Sina was bad. I
Speaker 1: think what they gave him was really poor. And now
Speaker 1: there's times he was bad. Remember that promo he cut
Speaker 1: on jay Us and sating its move in Yeah hello
Speaker 1: jay Usso wouldn't it be bad if logan Paul who
Speaker 1: wants to ruin your tyer and room wrestling? Oh shucks?
Speaker 1: Like there was bad moments in this run that was
Speaker 1: also Sena. So it's great for you. You enjoyed it
Speaker 1: for me, and I think a lot of other people
Speaker 1: it's looked at as like a like, Lol, you really
Speaker 1: screwed this up. Like to me, this is like a
Speaker 1: staying WW run where it's yea, you fucked it up.
Speaker 4: Man's. It started off hot.
Speaker 3: He had some great promos. It was capturing the moment
Speaker 3: of being a hill. But then the fallout of them
Speaker 3: not knowing what they were doing with the rock and
Speaker 3: Travis Scott and everything else, it fizzled off and then
Speaker 3: it felt like it it had no true direction other
Speaker 3: than you're getting to witness Sena as a heel. There
Speaker 3: was no true direction to it, so it it was
Speaker 3: no longer as fun and innovative when all the other
Speaker 3: aspects of it fizzled out. It probably had great potential
Speaker 3: if they had continued that run with wherever they were
Speaker 3: going with Travis out wherever they were going with the
Speaker 3: rock and all this other stuff, but all that fizzled
Speaker 3: out pretty quickly. Now you just have Sina trying his
Speaker 3: best to be endearing in every other aspect of his life,
Speaker 3: and then that music hits and he puts on that
Speaker 3: face like he just smelts some piss and he's walking
Speaker 3: out there trying to be the big bad guy.
Speaker 1: And this is the thing, Like you say, he's done
Speaker 1: it four months anyways, that's exactly what he's done in
Speaker 1: four months. There's nothing left. And I agree you can
Speaker 1: say all the Rock drop the ball wasn't there. Did
Speaker 1: the Rock Book? Randy Orton Johnson in the Backlash match,
Speaker 1: he had archero from there to stop and Randy, who
Speaker 1: like is a cold blood killers like I don't want
Speaker 1: to hurt Arch or the remember the Sena Ceampunk match
Speaker 1: where they just had like a bunch of weird Shenanis
Speaker 1: they're having like a fine match, like all this weird
Speaker 1: stuff and they're doing stuff in the middle like Rock
Speaker 1: didn Book that you know, Rock didn't book a promo
Speaker 1: that's seen to just cut two days before the match, like,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm no longer heel. I'm a baby
Speaker 1: face now. And yeah, I know I embarrass you in
Speaker 1: front of your family at WrestleMania. I nutshot at you.
Speaker 1: But I'm a good guy.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 1: You want to hug it out, let's talk. You want
Speaker 1: to have a beer, Like I still think at times
Speaker 1: Cody looks like kind of lamb because he's just like yeah,
Speaker 1: it's fine, like whatever. It's like no, like he it's
Speaker 1: not even that he turned heel win the match, Like
Speaker 1: at the rumble he beats you up like that was
Speaker 1: like they made that like an assault, that that heel turn.
Speaker 1: It wasn't just like I cheated to win. It was
Speaker 1: I took something from you. So it's just like, no,
Speaker 1: it's all good. So that's what I mean, Like it's
Speaker 1: not just the wrong people. I think that's the biggest
Speaker 1: strawman argument. I think people have nothing, like no merit
Speaker 1: there when they just put this all on the Rock.
Speaker 1: The Rock did not book all this stuff. The Rock's
Speaker 1: not throwing our truth in the backlash finish. He's not
Speaker 1: throwing all the Shenanigans, the Night Champions Fish. He's not saying, hey, Sina,
Speaker 1: you know how you should cut this this promo and
Speaker 1: Jay just like this, He's not like one of the
Speaker 1: matches we got for seeing his retirement run was him
Speaker 1: and Logan Paul versus Cody and Jay Usso what like
Speaker 1: Rock didn't book that. So again, it's not all the Rock.
Speaker 1: I think that's that's that's where it's just people. They
Speaker 1: I think they got too much of the WD kool
Speaker 1: aid and you know, good for you can enjoy that
Speaker 1: kool aid, but that kool aid is rotten man. So yeah,
Speaker 1: so yeah anything. Oh another point, I really liked this match.
Speaker 1: When they hugged at the beginning and it was like
Speaker 1: all nice and then like okay, let's just have this
Speaker 1: match they fight. I thought it was a great great.
Speaker 3: Star amazing start the hugging and straight into the I'm like, yes,
Speaker 3: do it, just go for it.
Speaker 4: That was great.
Speaker 3: So those are pretty much my final thoughts on this match.
Speaker 3: Like I said, it was a great match, was a
Speaker 3: fun match. The match itself did everything that it needed
Speaker 3: to do and even exceeded my expectations. I'm happy with
Speaker 3: the match itself and everything else would just stand as
Speaker 3: it will.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, I have to look at the match like
Speaker 1: in a bubble. You know, that's I'm so glad the
Speaker 1: match didn't have Brock come back in the middle, Like
Speaker 1: I'm so happy that was like separate.
Speaker 3: You know, we ended, we hugged, he had his exchange.
Speaker 3: You saw scenas saying, you know, I gave it my
Speaker 3: all and everything else.
Speaker 4: We had all of that.
Speaker 3: So I can legitimately look at the match within a
Speaker 3: bubble of itself and say this was good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and this thing you said, you're putting words mouth
Speaker 1: you said. You can't just say, well, the Rock didn't
Speaker 1: bok it, so he's off Loo never said the Rocks
Speaker 1: off the hook. I'm saying all that stuff was bad too.
Speaker 1: We've talked about many times about the Rock bounce and man,
Speaker 1: that suck. Do you people can make a mistake like
Speaker 1: it's not just like that's the thing where Peple like, well,
Speaker 1: you can't just be all it's team Rock or team
Speaker 1: Triple EHS. You can just say, hey, you know what,
Speaker 1: there was a lot of errors made by everybody, and no.
Speaker 1: What it reminds me of David. It reminds me of
Speaker 1: Henry Cavill coming back to Superman, where wasn't his fault
Speaker 1: but everyone which funny, The Rock's involved in that team.
Speaker 1: But it's like everyone just fucked that up and it
Speaker 1: sucks for Henry Cavill. To me, john Scene is in
Speaker 1: this where Johnson is notorious of hey, I'll just do
Speaker 1: whatever you booked me and I'll try to do my best, right.
Speaker 1: I just feel like Triple h Nick Con, Bruce Pritchard,
Speaker 1: the Rock, everybody fucked this up for you know, and
Speaker 1: he's again it carries me fine, but I'm still saying,
Speaker 1: like it would be great to like when Sina said, hey,
Speaker 1: we're doing something we've never done before me and now
Speaker 1: it's my retirement, do a fun year like that could
Speaker 1: have been remembered very fondly, you know, and even if
Speaker 1: the heel turn was success very fondly. But now it's like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I remember the last one. All I hope is that
Speaker 1: the last match that scene has is something like this
Speaker 1: where it's super great, you know, it's something that we
Speaker 1: can remember and love and finally we'll move on after
Speaker 1: this as a piece of so all of this bad
Speaker 1: book and you're saying that's happening is because the rock
Speaker 1: isn't falling up on any of scenes. No, it's not.
Speaker 4: It's not though, because it takes everybody. It takes everybody.
Speaker 1: Because then to me, my counter would be, Okay, if
Speaker 1: Triple H is is great creative, you gotta work with
Speaker 1: the brother. You gotta make you gotta make it work,
Speaker 1: like you can't just be like, well, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna book shit just to make it shit, you know,
Speaker 1: and just even now, like and Triple H is like
Speaker 1: they're taking all these pawshots at Tras Scott, which sure,
Speaker 1: if he left you hid dry shirt, but it's like
Speaker 1: this is the way Triple H operates. So it's like,
Speaker 1: there's a better way to do this stuff. You know.
Speaker 1: There's things like again, you don't need to have them
Speaker 1: team with Logan Paul, like do something else in that retrospect.
Speaker 1: But the other point I want to put and then
Speaker 1: we're gonna move on with this. The counter that I
Speaker 1: loved was Cody pop up. He did like the Kevin
Speaker 1: Owens pop up power bomb, but it was a sit down.
Speaker 1: He gets over the pin, they do the count, and
Speaker 1: then when scene when the scena kicks out, he grabs
Speaker 1: Cody's leg and puts in the fts or the FtF
Speaker 1: the s T f U. It was just a great
Speaker 1: counter and was so fluid. So yeah, there's lots of
Speaker 1: good stuff in here. I think Scena worked really hard.
Speaker 1: I hope that guy's good tomorrow.
Speaker 4: I bet his book and he put on a hell
Speaker 4: of a show. I will you know, it's seen.
Speaker 1: Us two flex on the guard rail on the.
Speaker 3: G I give it up to you do not have
Speaker 3: to go this hard at this point in your career.
Speaker 3: You were doing it for the love of the game
Speaker 3: and for the fans, and I applaud.
Speaker 1: You for that, m exactly. And that's why I wish.
Speaker 1: I wish this was the last match, because it felt like, Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna destroy my body because I'm not wrestling again
Speaker 1: after this, and I don't think he is wrestling again,
Speaker 1: like immediately, but that's what it felt like. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go out on my shield. But uh yeah, we'll see.
Speaker 1: We'll keep talking about the Sena. You know, he'll turn
Speaker 1: and the run and everything like that for years, but
Speaker 1: uh yeah, we'll talk about John Asigo. We got a
Speaker 1: John Brock match, which I god, I just hope, like
Speaker 1: keep him with an F five, and I would be
Speaker 1: completely fine if they never uh they just moved on,
Speaker 1: like seeing it just moved somewhere else, and Brock just
Speaker 1: moved somewhere else. I'd be fine if they just ignored
Speaker 1: this at all. It was like, oh, that was just
Speaker 1: brock statement to come back, and that's it, Like the
Speaker 1: same way that Roman, you know, beat Jay or beat
Speaker 1: bron and Bronson, but doesn't care about Seth at all.
Speaker 1: He's yeah, whatever, you know, he turned on me a
Speaker 1: mania to my manager, that's all good. I'll get them
Speaker 1: back after our film street Fighter, you know. So yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. We'll go back to the very
Speaker 1: beginning of the show, and obviously the more notes could
Speaker 1: pop up throughout, but with the woman's triple threat, like
Speaker 1: you said, I echo your thoughts where not as good
Speaker 1: as the Mania one, but I didn't expect it like this.
Speaker 1: I don't say this in a in a mean way,
Speaker 1: but Naomi is not a Bionca bell Air, but Beyonca
Speaker 1: bell Air is like a like a top ten talent.
Speaker 1: And I'm not even like I might be able to
Speaker 1: say top ten, not even like in w just like.
Speaker 3: In and out of, in and out of the ring.
Speaker 3: I mean, the girl and weak of nature athlete, she
Speaker 3: is amazing. Yeah, it's it would be. They're not a comparison.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 3: I will say this, the minute that Naomi made her entrance,
Speaker 3: I was like, Oh, she winning, She's big time winning.
Speaker 3: She got her daddy out here doing the damn thing.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, she is big time. And Eo Sky
Speaker 3: was taking some crazy bumps throughout this entire match.
Speaker 4: I mean, she is just an incredible worker. Her offense and.
Speaker 3: The bumps that she was taking. Man, I love to
Speaker 3: watch her in these big matches because she is just incredible.
Speaker 4: And Riya's Rhea.
Speaker 3: I mean we have talked on her for the last
Speaker 3: year and a half just how great she is. I
Speaker 3: mean it was awesome. So her taking the pin and
Speaker 3: having that moment and her looking so I.
Speaker 1: Don't know, did take the pin? Right? I forgot about that.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I don't know where these these women are going to
Speaker 3: go from here. But there were so many stories. There
Speaker 3: was the naomis never won at SummerSlam story. There was
Speaker 3: the Rhea's never big eos story. Like, there's so many
Speaker 3: moments to this and I'm just like.
Speaker 4: But they they put on a good match.
Speaker 3: To start and I have in my nose and I
Speaker 3: think I even said in the disc we're like I
Speaker 3: most entrances I don't like in the daytime stadium. For
Speaker 3: some reason, I love Riea's entrance in the daytime. It
Speaker 3: always just looks amazing.
Speaker 1: I don't black, she stands out, I think as the
Speaker 1: black usually if it's dark, blends in. But the black
Speaker 1: just like pops when it's the day life thing going on.
Speaker 3: Yes, for her, it looks great, like when she came
Speaker 3: out in her WrestleMania entrance when she had motionless and
Speaker 3: white doing the entrance. Like all of these daytimes ones,
Speaker 3: they she looks incredible for this, so.
Speaker 1: Well, speaking of someone looks incredible, mister s Bubbs is here, Spubs.
Speaker 1: You're not gonna believe it. We're at the forty three
Speaker 1: minute mark and we've only talked about one match.
Speaker 4: But you know, we've only talked about it for two minutes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and we talked about the main thing. But
Speaker 1: what did you one?
Speaker 5: I was listening to.
Speaker 1: The Yeah, we got lots of the rats out of
Speaker 1: the way, so we got to cover too much of
Speaker 1: that stuff. But what did you Uh, we'll get your
Speaker 1: thoughts on you hit the triple your thoughts on how's
Speaker 1: the theater? And then Summer Same night too, and then
Speaker 1: Cody U Sina and then the Woman's Triple Threat.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, the theater. Yeah, it was fun. There's only
Speaker 2: like two other people there.
Speaker 1: Oh no, this leads like we're not doing it again,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but oh yeah, it was.
Speaker 2: Cool to see it on the big screen and everything,
Speaker 2: and it sounded good.
Speaker 5: And everything, so I was good. I was worried it
Speaker 5: was gonna be like insanely loud.
Speaker 1: But that's good.
Speaker 5: What else?
Speaker 2: The Scena Cody match, Yeah, I really loved it. Like
Speaker 2: I was saying it like in the Discord stuff, It's
Speaker 2: like it's not like it's like it's what the medium.
Speaker 5: Match like should have been pretty much.
Speaker 2: And I'm like the Brock stuff is pretty much all
Speaker 2: you guys said. It's just like at the very like
Speaker 2: just like lowest tier of it. It is just like
Speaker 2: not necessary is my thought on it. But yeah, I
Speaker 2: pretty much all you guys said. And you said the
Speaker 2: Women's Triple Threat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we just talked about that right now, about Naomi
Speaker 1: getting the win on Rhianneo and whatnot, talking about not
Speaker 1: being made. Actually, I haven't even talked about but not
Speaker 1: be kind of be Mania, but they they worked the
Speaker 1: sun that I thought it was gonna be of like
Speaker 1: Naomi playing the chicken shit sort of heel, and I
Speaker 1: think that was fun and it worked. I think they
Speaker 1: took a little too long of like the setup for
Speaker 1: EO and Rhea was teaming up was like taking forever.
Speaker 1: They're like staring at the ring and they go to
Speaker 1: one side, they go to the other. It's like are
Speaker 1: they cleaning up the entrance wrap? For some But yeah,
Speaker 1: what did you think? Because you're you know, you're a
Speaker 1: big fan of triple threats, so where did uh? And
Speaker 1: we've got a lot of triple threats this year. I
Speaker 1: feel like both WW and AW or spamming these triple threats.
Speaker 1: But what did you? Uh? What did you think about this?
Speaker 5: So no, yeah, I liked it.
Speaker 2: It was definitely it was not as good as the
Speaker 2: Mania match, but it was a different style. Uh, I thought, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I agree that the start felt like a little slow,
Speaker 2: but I thought once they got into it, it was
Speaker 2: It was pretty fun and it was.
Speaker 5: Pretty much the finish that I expected.
Speaker 2: Which is like another time that like Rhea basically has
Speaker 2: like EO beat but still hasn't beat her.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's funny because I forgot when dude said
Speaker 1: that she got pinned. That's where I think it's a
Speaker 1: good way to get EO and Rhea had the title
Speaker 1: picture for a while because even though it was a
Speaker 1: cash and Naomi beat EO to win the title, and
Speaker 1: then to defend the title, she pinned Rhea, so you
Speaker 1: could you could make the argument, Hey, you guys should
Speaker 1: be at the bottom of the you know, back of
Speaker 1: the line. No more shots for you for a while,
Speaker 1: which I think is good. We got Stephanie OFFSI next
Speaker 1: and Paris, so we'll see it goes there. But again
Speaker 1: hot opener, everyone jokes about the triple h Rhea Poppa
Speaker 1: like every time, like Ria pops and gets a big
Speaker 1: thing and comes out, and uh yeah, I'm curiously where
Speaker 1: these characters go and whatnot. And then next we got
Speaker 1: the six pack TLC with all the teams I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna name everyone knows, and White six goes over. But man,
Speaker 1: these guys were trying to kill each other, like there
Speaker 1: is some there is some crazy stuff in here.
Speaker 3: Guys and girls were trying to kill each other because
Speaker 3: damn Candace.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Candace, that was that was crazy spot when I saw.
Speaker 5: It took the top dollar fall, yeah she did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when I saw Axiom and I can't remember Os
Speaker 1: Dawkins when they did especially Spanish fly. Yeah, bigger dude,
Speaker 1: he's a bigger too. It's not like to the lightweight.
Speaker 1: It's like they're the top rope and they did a
Speaker 1: Spanish fly to the floor through the tail. All I
Speaker 1: had was flashbacks of Eddie Kingston because I'm like, they're
Speaker 1: gonna hit their legs like guardrail, and especially when they
Speaker 1: first shot, I thought I saw Dawkin's leg on there,
Speaker 1: but it wasn't. But I was like, they're gonna hit
Speaker 1: that guardrail and someone's shin or ankle's gonna snap. I
Speaker 1: was like, this is so dangerous. But again, that was
Speaker 1: a fun spot of like all four tables are have
Speaker 1: guys with them, Like I think they tried their best.
Speaker 1: I feel bad for whoever does a TLC next because
Speaker 1: it's like, man, what else is next? Yes, yes, I
Speaker 1: don't think because they did so many different Like my
Speaker 1: favorite spot of the match. Kudos to Champa and his
Speaker 1: abs because man, they're trying to recreate the Jeff hardy
Speaker 1: edge moment. Yeah, and like so Chompa is doing the
Speaker 1: hang title thing where that's where hard he was, and
Speaker 1: then he's gonna Nathan Fraser is gonna go and jump
Speaker 1: into a spear of some sort of move. He jumps,
Speaker 1: and then Champa with those great powerful abs, buckles his
Speaker 1: way up and then he wraps his legs around the
Speaker 1: titles and the post, and Nathan completely missed him, like
Speaker 1: he countered an uncountable move like that should be like, oh,
Speaker 1: you're dead to rights, you can't do this. No he
Speaker 1: counted it. He still get the titles. But that was
Speaker 1: a phenomenal stuff. Like this match had multiple just dangerous spots,
Speaker 1: but really memorable, like cool like that a very cool
Speaker 1: spot of Champa like crunching his way out of a spear.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 1: So.
Speaker 2: One of my favorite too, though, is just like a
Speaker 2: quick one was like when Andrade pretty much just like
Speaker 2: threw Phoenix up to the titles like with.
Speaker 3: No ladder oh yees was running on his shoulders yeah.
Speaker 2: Or jumped in like I mean he touched the titles
Speaker 2: like if this is a shoot ladder match, he could
Speaker 2: have wroped them down.
Speaker 1: But my kids went crazy for that spot because they're
Speaker 1: like they like react, like can he do that? I'm
Speaker 1: like I guess so, like I guess they could do.
Speaker 1: But like that was that was a great moment. And
Speaker 1: then they did that you know at s Bubs. I
Speaker 1: know you you love tlc Restmeate seventeen, but they did
Speaker 1: that where they had like all their managers inside.
Speaker 5: Like the predictions.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the total of like sixteen it's ended up
Speaker 2: being a sixteen person ladder match.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Uncle Howdie pretty much got them to win
Speaker 1: with the big table spot in the point.
Speaker 2: Once I saw because he started walking down the ringside
Speaker 2: like way before he got an atached. Yeah, when I
Speaker 2: saw him, I was like, oh, so, Uncle how he's
Speaker 2: like winning.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Nathan Fraser taking that uh superkick off the flip
Speaker 3: Oh that.
Speaker 1: Was all just eight.
Speaker 2: When Champa was like hanging and like like right in
Speaker 2: that spot where like Johnny super kicked out and he
Speaker 2: went for like a springboard. I thought Fraser was gonna
Speaker 2: like do like like springboard off the top rope and
Speaker 2: like somehow like grabbed him like backwards or something. But yeah,
Speaker 2: they did the superkickspot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, that's like I said, they went They went
Speaker 1: crazy I did notice, and I don't know if they
Speaker 1: did this with the last TLLC on smacked them, But
Speaker 1: which is I get it's for the safety. It's all fine,
Speaker 1: But the table they did the classic Matt Hardy Bubba
Speaker 1: rat spot where it's a four table stacked outside. But
Speaker 1: did you see the two bottom tables had holes in
Speaker 1: them so that the top table could go in the
Speaker 1: hole so they would be secure. Yeah, if you watch
Speaker 1: that back, they had like security holes to make sure
Speaker 1: the tables didn't slide. Wich. Again, it's all good, but
Speaker 1: just like it just took met it for a moment
Speaker 1: because like, okay, well clearly.
Speaker 5: That SmackDown one. They didn't do stacked tables.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I couldn't remember.
Speaker 2: Last time they did stacked tables was like they did
Speaker 2: something like the Sammy and Ko like unsanctioned match. But
Speaker 2: those are like those were like very much like I
Speaker 2: think normal tables, because I remember they took like a
Speaker 2: while setting this up.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So yeah, and then yeah Braywall or no ship
Speaker 1: terrible slip bro Dallas comes in and Uncle Howdie he
Speaker 1: comes in. He does the big push and yeah he
Speaker 1: pretty much she gets the win, and yeah, the white
Speaker 1: six still Detect Champions for now, which was interesting because
Speaker 1: when Joe Gacy was up there that he was starting
Speaker 1: at Boods, So I was like, oh, maybe, which is
Speaker 1: I'd be fine.
Speaker 2: I think pretty much heals like he did to win
Speaker 2: the tag.
Speaker 1: Titles, okay, and I'm fine with that. They kind of
Speaker 1: watched the whole like them being the scary good guys.
Speaker 1: They never triple ah Vince. They never knew how to
Speaker 1: book the create. Vince was always weird for me because
Speaker 1: he was so good at booking Babyface Undertaker. I never
Speaker 1: understood how he couldn't book Babyface Bray, like it's very
Speaker 1: similar strokes and whatnot. But uh, yeah, they got the titles.
Speaker 1: We'll see what happens next with that. After that, what.
Speaker 4: Was Yeah, Yeah, Becky's new entrance music.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which I liked. It was It was good. It'll
Speaker 1: take a little getting used to, but I hope when
Speaker 1: she's Babyface she goes back to the other one. But
Speaker 1: baby won. I liked it really like the Titan Tron
Speaker 1: video as well. That was cool.
Speaker 3: So yeah, they had a lot of cool spots and
Speaker 3: then they had that interesting spot when Lyra's trying to
Speaker 3: like pull Becky and then Rewhipper into the ring side,
Speaker 3: and the cameraman is right there and she throws her
Speaker 3: into the camera and she fologized.
Speaker 1: She a fologized mid match. But oh shit, mad, Yeah,
Speaker 1: what did you think s pubs of this?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 1: This match?
Speaker 2: I enjoyed it, but I was definitely like a bit
Speaker 2: disappointed because, like I said, it's like I thought the
Speaker 2: like with this and the Scena and Cody match, I
Speaker 2: thought was gonna be like the.
Speaker 5: Opposites of what they were.
Speaker 2: I felt like I thought that like Lara and Becky
Speaker 2: was gonna be just very much like the elder matches
Speaker 2: they have very much in ring and just like the
Speaker 2: No DQ No Counta was just sort of to do
Speaker 2: stuff on the outside for longer while it ended up
Speaker 2: being like what I thought the Sena and Cody match
Speaker 2: is gonna be, was just like you know, like the
Speaker 2: weapons match and using all this sorts of stuff and
Speaker 2: not really much like actual wrestling, especially with the whole
Speaker 2: story of Larra being like zip tied, which is.
Speaker 5: Also felt like it just kind of went on like for.
Speaker 2: Ever and the resolution was like offscreen pretty much, she
Speaker 2: just like.
Speaker 1: Broke out of the well. She was trying that I
Speaker 1: guess that was probably they probably rehearsed it because she
Speaker 1: was trying to break you with the fire sting with
Speaker 1: sure with the handle, because Barrett gave this whole explanation
Speaker 1: of like, oh, that's what the British Secret Service do,
Speaker 1: like they're training that. So I bet they didn't rehearsal
Speaker 1: and it worked, and of course now it didn't. But
Speaker 1: it felt like midway through the match she took a
Speaker 1: bump or something that changed the straps because she kept
Speaker 1: like fucking with her hands like multiple times. There's no
Speaker 1: shoeses like this, and then after she took a bump,
Speaker 1: there was like she kept messing it, so I think
Speaker 1: that and when she got off there was like a
Speaker 1: cut on her So I think at one point it
Speaker 1: was just like oh or maybe got like tightened even
Speaker 1: more somehow, and I think she was just like I
Speaker 1: can't and kudos to her working that way.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think under the ring there's played just.
Speaker 2: Like like scissors or something, because yeah, she tried to do.
Speaker 1: Oh there's a person out there, for sure, I bet
Speaker 1: too there's a worker around there.
Speaker 2: The firestinger shirt and then like they just like it
Speaker 2: didn't it didn't cut and then they just cut to
Speaker 2: like Becky just like walking on the outside, and like
Speaker 2: Lara rolled under the ring and by the time they
Speaker 2: cut back, she was out and like they were broken.
Speaker 2: So if I just went under the ring and just
Speaker 2: you needed help with.
Speaker 1: That, We're gonna get back to the match. But I
Speaker 1: just have to share this because it's just like, just
Speaker 1: like Curb your Enthors has some funny stuff. So, uh,
Speaker 1: this is the crowd chanting at Triple h that that
Speaker 1: they want Cross do. I got the audio here? Where
Speaker 1: is it here? You get Okay, hang on, hang on,
Speaker 1: you have.
Speaker 2: You've got him?
Speaker 1: Yeah you want Brock, You've got him? Yeah, you want Brock,
Speaker 1: You've got him? Like I literally do believe he probably
Speaker 1: just like misheard them, but it just feels like it
Speaker 1: just like even tonight, like.
Speaker 3: Just he's doing the Simpsons, they're saying Boo Earns, boo.
Speaker 1: Brock, you got him, Like that's the thing, like Brock
Speaker 1: Lester came back, and these fucking people are chanting for
Speaker 1: carrying Cross. But it's just like it's just I guarantee
Speaker 1: you he missed her. But it's just so funny. We we
Speaker 1: walk across. You got him? You got him? Man? Yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll see and then we Ripley to know that she
Speaker 1: hates Summer Slam. I think Ria Ripley is being very
Speaker 1: smart because she's undefeated Summer Slam, so that's the reason.
Speaker 1: But the fact that it came right after to the end,
Speaker 1: it's like, eh, I feel like that's some you know, ufortunate.
Speaker 1: But you know she ain't go anywhere. She's plaster scene
Speaker 1: there and stuff. But no, this match was this was
Speaker 1: an odd one. I really really enjoyed it. The finish
Speaker 1: was something else that I'll get into, but I I
Speaker 1: guess know it is the finish, but like the creative
Speaker 1: stuff I love. We had a weapons match where they're
Speaker 1: using weapons we don't see all the time, the zap straps.
Speaker 4: Going full of Jason Todd over there with the.
Speaker 1: Prow Yeah, because so many times it's like table chair
Speaker 1: and kindo stick like that is usually the weapons match
Speaker 1: the street fight, so it was nice to see this
Speaker 1: stup broke around. I loved Lyra working the handcuff gimmick.
Speaker 1: I loved how much they wrestled there. I love her
Speaker 1: doing the moves. I thought she like a bad ass.
Speaker 1: She's doing those spin kicks with no hands, so you
Speaker 1: know that throws off her balance, but she's just like again,
Speaker 1: as I said, she is the female Daniel Bryan of
Speaker 1: the WW She's exactly. She's even a little further head
Speaker 1: as far as character stuff. I love watching her more
Speaker 1: and more, like I liked enough of her next I
Speaker 1: didn't watch an XC full time. Of course that's my
Speaker 1: fault there, But as I watched her, she's climbed the
Speaker 1: ranks to be a favorite though, and I loved there's
Speaker 1: so many good creative spots, like I loved that she
Speaker 1: put her I have thing their notes written for it too.
Speaker 1: But she puts Lyra in the chair in the middle
Speaker 1: and she's throwing her around. And that moment where she
Speaker 1: puts her on the commentary table and she jumps and
Speaker 1: kicks it down, I thought, and Becky's liked that. Becky
Speaker 1: is really good at thinking of even the finish for
Speaker 1: the triple threat last month, like she's her wrestling mind
Speaker 1: is really good. The only thing that I found weird
Speaker 1: was they tried to do this thing where Bailey costs
Speaker 1: for the match accidentally, which I like more. You know, hashtag,
Speaker 1: you know that's what I was told to you was right,
Speaker 1: But likes what's said, so you know, use the literation,
Speaker 1: do I do? But like they which was what was
Speaker 1: odd for me was Bailey costs Lira the match, but
Speaker 1: like as Lyra, I don't think she can be mad
Speaker 1: because like Becky had Lyra dead to rights.
Speaker 4: Like she Becky was going to hit her with.
Speaker 1: The crowbar and like end the match, so like Lira
Speaker 1: had lost, like it was already over for her, Like literally,
Speaker 1: Becky was the one that was like getting cheated out
Speaker 1: of a mattress, like she would be the babyface in
Speaker 1: the scenario where Bailey did nothing to help Lira. So
Speaker 1: even if Lyer's like you cost me my shots, like no, lady,
Speaker 1: you were gonna lose anyways, like you were dead, you're
Speaker 1: in the chair there. So it was weird and even
Speaker 1: the finish was weird. And I think they're trying to
Speaker 1: go for Bailey's like confused because she hits her with
Speaker 1: the chain and then they go for the finish and
Speaker 1: Bailly's just watched she had time to get in there.
Speaker 1: Think they're going with like maybe she wanted to get pinned.
Speaker 1: But if they don't go that route, it's like why
Speaker 1: didn't Becky just hit her with a boot then, you know,
Speaker 1: like it felt it felt a little WCW overbooked for
Speaker 1: me of like they should have done something like Becky
Speaker 1: doesn't have a heater. I don't know what they could
Speaker 1: have done, but it just felt odd where Bailey made
Speaker 1: Lyra lose the match that she was already losing, you know,
Speaker 1: like maybe they should have made Bailey the special guest
Speaker 1: referee or something. I know they did with the Bianca,
Speaker 1: but it just felt odd there. But yeah, Lyra lost,
Speaker 1: can't challenge Becky Whish's champ, and I guess we're getting
Speaker 1: Bailey and Lyra And at this point I would rather
Speaker 1: Bailey just done the heel turn and just screw Lyra.
Speaker 1: You know, I think this was a little clunky for me,
Speaker 1: and it was not. This is to me the weakest
Speaker 1: out of the three matches they've had on the main
Speaker 1: A roster. I thought this was gonna be their five star,
Speaker 1: like this could be one of the best women's matches
Speaker 1: of all time. I thought they kept saving stuff and
Speaker 1: I think they're still I guess holding on that because
Speaker 1: this wasn't that. This was definitely a plunder weapons match.
Speaker 1: I guess what I was saying.
Speaker 3: So yeah, it over delivered for me in terms of
Speaker 3: what happened in the match, but the ending itself, it
Speaker 3: was a little bit convoluted, like I expect it more
Speaker 3: of a traditional match with a couple of spots here
Speaker 3: and there. I thought the only reason why the no
Speaker 3: D key was in there was more so for having
Speaker 3: Bailey have her moment within the match. That's how they
Speaker 3: were going to get around that. But no, they they
Speaker 3: over delivered with a lot of those weapons spots, a
Speaker 3: lot of their high flying moments. It was good there,
Speaker 3: but yeah, the ending itself is Yes, it was kind
Speaker 3: of all over the place and a little bit desjoying it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I wonder I know you were booking this
Speaker 1: a little bit espects. Are you still on that Ria
Speaker 1: Becky icy title run? Potentially? Where do you think is
Speaker 1: next for Becky?
Speaker 5: For Becky?
Speaker 1: I feel like, actually, yeah, that's what I was gonna say.
Speaker 2: I feel like, right now that's what's next after that?
Speaker 2: I'm not really sure. I don't know, like the whole
Speaker 2: real thing at this point. I don't really think it's
Speaker 2: I think more likely now they might do the re
Speaker 2: and EO tag stuff, especially now like they didn't like
Speaker 2: with Naomi getting the pin It's not like like oh
Speaker 2: like Rhea pinned EO or something like they didn't like
Speaker 2: cost each other the match or something like that, like
Speaker 2: Naomi just like beat Rio which And I do think
Speaker 2: they're actually gonna do the the tag stuff.
Speaker 1: Really, that's gonna be interesting. That's gonna be a big
Speaker 1: because that's gonna be baby Face bay Face teams. You know,
Speaker 1: unless they make bliss they can always swap. But I
Speaker 1: don't think they're gonna that's gonna be interesting. Oh yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think because I know you pitched that
Speaker 1: match for Perth, they could.
Speaker 5: Happen, Like, yeah, it could happen. I don't know if
Speaker 5: right away.
Speaker 2: I definitely do think they're gonna have tag matches, like
Speaker 2: especially if they just continue being.
Speaker 5: Like friends, like even through all the.
Speaker 2: Matches they've they've had and stuff. But I forgot where
Speaker 2: we started.
Speaker 1: Plus, if the draft happen, there's new people there right
Speaker 1: whether it's NXT people, whether it's other people on SmackDown.
Speaker 1: Maybe they're like, hey, Becky, we really want you to
Speaker 1: work with Jade and show her the rope, So we
Speaker 1: really want you like your pet. You know, you got
Speaker 1: liar over can you get can you get Jade? And
Speaker 1: you know what, Becky's good enough? Maybe Becky is the key.
Speaker 1: Maybe Becky's the last piece that Jade needs to like
Speaker 1: wake up and get something won the best, Like.
Speaker 2: Just switch the the mid cart titles like they did
Speaker 2: that with the men's a few years ago, Like the
Speaker 2: IC in the US they just like changed them from
Speaker 2: because Gunthar when he won like the IC that that
Speaker 2: was like on SmackDown and then eventually they just moved
Speaker 2: the ice to ron in the US title the SmackDown.
Speaker 1: No, you know what you do?
Speaker 5: Just do that with with the women's.
Speaker 1: You know, Charlotte win the US title. You have Charlotte
Speaker 1: Beach the US title and they do that stupid belt
Speaker 1: so dumb, but like now.
Speaker 2: I thought you're gonna say, like do like the one
Speaker 2: of those tag matches were like every titles.
Speaker 4: On the line and like oh yeah, I like one.
Speaker 2: Person is like a double champ or something like that.
Speaker 1: Were like my favorite back in the day was I
Speaker 1: think I showed this up last podcast, not last. Every
Speaker 1: one before was when Agent and Kurt were a team
Speaker 1: and A J and Kurt were tag team champions. Kurt
Speaker 1: was teena world champion, aj was exhibition champion. Then they
Speaker 1: had one match for all the titles. So the next
Speaker 1: payer review Kurt won, of course, and sorry, the New
Speaker 1: Japan Championship as well, but that spoiled it because everyone's
Speaker 1: like New Japan at that point. It's not gonna let
Speaker 1: them change titles on a you know, non Japan. But
Speaker 1: then when Kurt won the next payer review, he had
Speaker 1: to defend the tag titles alone. They didn't he didn't
Speaker 1: get a select a partner. He was just like he
Speaker 1: He defended the ex division tag and the world title
Speaker 1: all one night and he lost. And except for the
Speaker 1: world you know, Kurt Man, he's fucking he's the fucking
Speaker 1: best watch. He's gonna come back next. They're gonna they're
Speaker 1: gonna do Brock and Kurt next, you know, so oh man, Yeah,
Speaker 1: any anything else on Lira, Lyra and Bailey will go
Speaker 1: for another bit. Bailey and Becky probably have one more,
Speaker 1: but maybe, yeah, maybe Lyra is gonna be somebody that
Speaker 1: uh is uh in the world title picture. You know,
Speaker 1: I talked about Julian Stephanie last night, but maybe maybe
Speaker 1: she gets there. I don't know, so yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Guess just going back to the Women's Triple Down. I'm
Speaker 2: still wondering on the whole Stephanie, the care of it all.
Speaker 4: She challenged, Yeah, she challenged right afterwards.
Speaker 1: Yeah she's winning. I'm telling you that's my heart. It
Speaker 1: is tough because I always having a really good run
Speaker 1: right now, hear me out now, I always not gonna
Speaker 1: make it a wrestlmating as champion, Like that's not gonna happen.
Speaker 1: They're gonna put out like that always happens where she's
Speaker 1: like the knight Jack's currently but she's doing a lot
Speaker 1: of good work. I just feel like they're gonna rocket Stephanie.
Speaker 1: And I'm I'm like I said, I'm still going with
Speaker 1: the whole. You know, Stephanie Rea wrestling the collision that's happening,
Speaker 1: but uh yeah, we'll see and then after that I
Speaker 1: have I'm blanket all. It was a still cage next.
Speaker 4: Right, yep, Solo versus Jacob for the US title.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you think about this?
Speaker 4: David met so.
Speaker 3: Many crazy spots, so so many crazy spots, but I
Speaker 3: it didn't have the outcome that I expected.
Speaker 4: It got a little bit again.
Speaker 3: You think cage match, Okay, there there may be some stuff,
Speaker 3: but it's still man, we went down this bloodline or
Speaker 3: you know, family tree.
Speaker 4: Stuff, and why the hell is Jimmy here?
Speaker 3: Like I feel like my guy is sitting there in
Speaker 3: the back asking Trips, like so, uh, can me and
Speaker 3: my brother start teaming again?
Speaker 4: And he's like, or or.
Speaker 3: You could go out there and run in on this
Speaker 3: cage match and he's like, but yeah, me and my
Speaker 3: brother really want to team again, or or follow me here,
Speaker 3: you can go out and do something with jac Mattel
Speaker 3: Like that's that's what they're doing right now.
Speaker 4: Like that, Jimmy's just floundering.
Speaker 3: This stuff is just floun and I don't know where
Speaker 3: they go from here, especially with solo winning, which I
Speaker 3: thought that Jacob was gonna win. Let's end this, let
Speaker 3: Jacob go do something else. But and then I also
Speaker 3: it kind of felt weird. So the entire match, the
Speaker 3: announcers were really talking about, oh, Jacobs used to be
Speaker 3: in in cages because he was in jail, and then
Speaker 3: he rips off the cups. You know, Jacob brings off
Speaker 3: the cups because you know, he was a former criminal.
Speaker 3: Like I'm like, geez, this is getting a little much
Speaker 3: with the bringing up his pass and they oh they
Speaker 3: didn't want him in the bloodline because he was a
Speaker 3: former criminal.
Speaker 4: I'm like, man, poor.
Speaker 1: Jacob in nineteen type of uh like bordering on that,
Speaker 1: but yeah, what do you think I was supposed to
Speaker 1: just live up to? I feel like you got like
Speaker 1: a little bit about your pitching, but they didn't go
Speaker 1: full Maunty with it, you know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, I didn't really like to smatch that one.
Speaker 1: Likes Bob spooking of it. Yesterday was better, but you know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: It was like they did do some good stuff in
Speaker 2: there by, Like even the stuff like after the match
Speaker 2: ended with the Jacob doing the the Moon song on
Speaker 2: the guys. It's like you could have just done that
Speaker 2: in the match and like just.
Speaker 5: Have solo in anyway, Like.
Speaker 1: Look that the way, Yeah, those two guys catch him,
Speaker 1: Solo misses and he gets out, So you make Jacob like, oh,
Speaker 1: you went for like a big payback move you should
Speaker 1: have focused on so like you could put it on him,
Speaker 1: but they obviously they don't want to do that. They
Speaker 1: want to you know yeah yeah, yeah, like Jimmy being
Speaker 1: like the worst this this like you had like two
Speaker 1: super kicks got like.
Speaker 2: Knocked out and by the time he was fighting again,
Speaker 2: the match is already over.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's just it's so funny because for a second,
Speaker 1: because he was out numbered, I thought, Okay, Jay is
Speaker 1: gonna come out. Jay was there last night. He's gonna
Speaker 1: come out, and this is how they're gonna get them
Speaker 1: back together. Roman's gone, here we go. But with Jay
Speaker 1: not coming out, it really just felt like Jimmy is
Speaker 1: like has nothing going on. It's like what I said
Speaker 1: in the discord, It's like he is fighting a war
Speaker 1: that ended years ago. Like like okay, sure you could
Speaker 1: say the Netflix premiere where Rome became the original tribal
Speaker 1: chief again, but really this ended at War Games they
Speaker 1: beat the other bloodline. It's over, like and especially Netflix,
Speaker 1: it's definitely done. Like at this point, I would just
Speaker 1: leave them alone. And even then, like I found for
Speaker 1: the few times I watched smack Down, like Jacob and
Speaker 1: Jimmy just start tune together, like just after he got
Speaker 1: turned on. They didn't have this big moment, they didn't
Speaker 1: have anything. It's like, oh yeah, your babyface, now I
Speaker 1: forgive you move. Let's before it's It was weird because
Speaker 1: like they even like played up like the Uzos and
Speaker 1: other people like, oh, we don't mess with fought too,
Speaker 1: like he's dangerous, we don't want him around. But yeah, nah,
Speaker 1: he's fine. You know, he's cool. So it's just my
Speaker 1: hope for this is, like we said, because of Cody
Speaker 1: and whatnot, I don't think Jacob is going to main
Speaker 1: title picture. But even if I would be completely down
Speaker 1: if SmackDown open up and they just you know, Jacob
Speaker 1: comes out and he turns, he'll via promo. But no,
Speaker 1: like if you just like killed Cody and like, yeah,
Speaker 1: just make Jacob hill, they won't because Jacob got over
Speaker 1: as a babyface and they should. So my worries that
Speaker 1: this is this is not the end, Like we're getting
Speaker 1: Solo and Jacob for I'm gonna another two months.
Speaker 2: Tala Tonga, yes, in a singles match, then a tag
Speaker 2: match then and you know.
Speaker 1: You know they're waiting for Tomatonga too. You know they're
Speaker 1: waiting for that fucking guy to come back.
Speaker 2: And they were when like Solo fun like actually won
Speaker 2: the match, and like obviously it takes longer for him
Speaker 2: to get out of cage. For a second, I thought, like,
Speaker 2: look at my fantasy booking of like Toma Tonga being
Speaker 2: on like Jacob's side. I thought he was gonna like
Speaker 2: show up and like hold the door open or something
Speaker 2: and then like hit everyone with it or something like that.
Speaker 2: Like for a second one they were holding on so long.
Speaker 2: Obviously it's because so Lashly was gonna end up walking
Speaker 2: out of it. But when they were holding I was like, Oh,
Speaker 2: he's gonna come out of the crowd and help Jacob
Speaker 2: because he was also like my like my like reasoning
Speaker 2: for like why like Tom had all those like he's
Speaker 2: the other one that was like getting over like Jacob,
Speaker 2: just because of like the means of.
Speaker 5: Him, like yello. Yeah, So I thought if there was
Speaker 5: one like another one that can make like a face.
Speaker 1: With me him, God's God, Damn, It's just gonna keep
Speaker 1: It's gonna keep going. It's like you that meme you
Speaker 1: shared as buffs. It's like the Rise of Skywalker. It's
Speaker 1: where at that point. But a little update here, which
Speaker 1: I need some clarification on this triple h at this
Speaker 1: postal thing stated essentially the headline said essentially John Cena
Speaker 1: Wan Brocols in the Return. The quote is one of
Speaker 1: the first things I said to Sina is who do
Speaker 1: you want? And how and we're working through that. So
Speaker 1: what your Blach, I guess is saying is for the
Speaker 1: next four months, this is gonna be like that case
Speaker 1: Sena has a list of people he did the Cody list, right,
Speaker 1: people he wants to work through. Okay, if that's true, fine.
Speaker 1: There's two things. One, I was just saying, hey, John,
Speaker 1: that's great, but we're not gonna do that for X,
Speaker 1: Y and Z, you know, And I don't think John's
Speaker 1: gonna be like that's it. I'm not I'm not retiring here.
Speaker 1: I'm leaving Triple H like I think okay. And Two
Speaker 1: I need clarification because John Cena has said this and
Speaker 1: a bunch of other like dirt sheet reports have said
Speaker 1: John hasn't really asked for opponents. He just said, like,
Speaker 1: give me what you want me to do, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do it. But now Tripple just saying that he's asking
Speaker 1: to work with Brock. So it's like, so what is
Speaker 1: it is John, Like, are you telling John, hey, you're
Speaker 1: gonna work with Brock and John's like, hey, I'm a
Speaker 1: company guy, do it? Or did John have a list
Speaker 1: and say that, yeah, give me Brock, Like I cannot
Speaker 1: wait for like the follow up with everybody, because that's
Speaker 1: our srs also betwet like no, like like we knew,
Speaker 1: no one knew, but like really no one knew other
Speaker 1: than a few people and stuff. But it's just like
Speaker 1: I'm very curious to see what happens with the fall
Speaker 1: of this because we're being told different things. Is Sena
Speaker 1: will work with anybody or Sena's request in Brock, which
Speaker 1: is like maybe, like is that I guess I don't
Speaker 1: know John Cena. I guess maybe he thought, man, I
Speaker 1: need one more match with Brock Lesner. But that makes
Speaker 1: me think that because who has he actually wrestled he's
Speaker 1: not counting the Rumble or Chamber all single matches, he's
Speaker 1: never wrestled somebody yet that he's never worked before, right,
Speaker 1: because it was Cody Our Truth, Our Truth, Ordon and
Speaker 1: Punk and now it's gonna be Brock. So I think
Speaker 1: there's a good chance even that last match this like
Speaker 1: they might find other people that he's allready worked with.
Speaker 1: I still think the last match.
Speaker 2: Should be last match is like yes, from someone who
Speaker 2: who has gone like all the Sena stuff like.
Speaker 1: Right, and that's yeah, that that that's great for me.
Speaker 1: That should be But that also tells me that these
Speaker 1: other matches up. We get like there might be some
Speaker 1: more like nostalgia runs or whatever. And I don't know
Speaker 1: who else you do. I know, I've seen the meme
Speaker 1: of trying to get Edge back for I don't I
Speaker 1: don't think we're you know, do a one night trade.
Speaker 1: Have Bailey go over there with Monette for forbiddor and
Speaker 1: have Edge for because I'll tell you what there was
Speaker 1: memes of, like, oh, Edge versus Johnsena is like things
Speaker 1: I'm least interested in twenty twenty five. I'll take Edge
Speaker 1: versus Johnsen over John C vers Black leaves there every
Speaker 1: fucking day of the week. I'll tell you that, Like
Speaker 1: at least the promos with Sena and Edge are gonna
Speaker 1: be fun. Brock's just gonna like Broc doesn't have Paul anymore.
Speaker 1: What the fuck is bro gonna do? You know?
Speaker 5: So I don't really know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like other like Sena rivals that he could seth
Speaker 2: I have a matchless Yeah, I guess said, yeah, they'll
Speaker 2: do that. I'm trying to think of other ones, like
Speaker 2: there's not really any other, Like, hell.
Speaker 4: Bring back Bautista before you do anything else.
Speaker 1: Yeah, give me what I want, well no, and the
Speaker 1: other one is too. So let's say let's say for
Speaker 1: every month to get an opponent. I think I've mapped
Speaker 1: it out. If you wanted to, you could do Brock,
Speaker 1: you could do AJ, you can do Seth. And then
Speaker 1: he ends it with Gunther like he literally could work
Speaker 1: it because everyone wants an AJ match again too, right,
Speaker 1: which again is like the punk thing of like they're
Speaker 1: not gonna recapture that summer slammer rumble match, like don't
Speaker 1: even try it. But they're you know, he's like fucking Anakin.
Speaker 1: They're like, I'm gonna do the backflip and try and
Speaker 1: flip over. We won. But honestly, it could be a
Speaker 1: Jane Seth. He could that could be a Seth tyrant
Speaker 1: or like he's in war games right, like for somehow
Speaker 1: seen it gets wrapped up in the set story. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's where he'll probably work a bunch of other people,
Speaker 1: and that's where you get him and Brawn. But uh yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know, that's gonna be interesting and maybe who
Speaker 1: knows me, John Scene is gonna come out say yeah,
Speaker 1: I want to Brook back. But again, the company you
Speaker 1: could just say, you know, we're not gonna do that,
Speaker 1: but we'll see. It's gonna be an interesting I'm excited
Speaker 1: for next month when we do the gimmick to see
Speaker 1: all of all the reports and stuff. So we had
Speaker 1: the cage match and then next was a j and
Speaker 1: Dom right speaking of ag Yeah, this was a fun match.
Speaker 1: It was a very let's just fucking tribute Eddie Grew.
Speaker 1: Eddie Grew's one of my favorite wrestlers of all time,
Speaker 1: so I'm here for it. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Thought was like, this is like doing like not like exactly,
Speaker 2: but it's like what the Dom and Eddie match would
Speaker 2: have been?
Speaker 5: What else?
Speaker 1: Kind of yeah in a way, And it's not a
Speaker 1: comedy match, but it kind of worked as out a
Speaker 1: little bit like it was a lighthearted match, and I
Speaker 1: think this worked for it and it was so cool.
Speaker 1: I love the finish because it was different with the
Speaker 1: Angle match with the Eddie match. It was Angle working
Speaker 1: on his ankle and then made a big deal that
Speaker 1: Eddie untied his boot because they're like, oh, his ankle
Speaker 1: must be swelling, that's untied his boot, and then you
Speaker 1: know he kicks it off and rolls them up. This
Speaker 1: was so good because Dom like just off the side
Speaker 1: of the camera. I saw his hand just quickly insit
Speaker 1: the boot and I was like, oh my god, he's
Speaker 1: doing Eddie twin and the Eddie twenty finish is a
Speaker 1: top ten finish. I don't care like that. It's just
Speaker 1: so well done rarely gets done. But yeah, you had that,
Speaker 1: you had sequences. You had Aj with the Eddie gear.
Speaker 1: Even AJ did.
Speaker 2: I wonder if that has the bleached hair if just he.
Speaker 1: Looked like he looked like baby dom right, it was crazy.
Speaker 1: It's like, who is this guy's because something like okay,
Speaker 1: I thought it was like he went back in time
Speaker 1: and got Dominic mysterio. But like even AJ was busting
Speaker 1: out Eddie's brain buster that he didn't o five as
Speaker 1: this heel finish. He just ramby busted out. If anyone
Speaker 1: wants to look up the heel turn on Ray Masteriro,
Speaker 1: he did that on the Steel Steps and it was
Speaker 1: fucking brutal. Oh I forgot to mention that too, the
Speaker 1: Scena coding match. When Sina thought those steps, I was
Speaker 1: worried for my man. Sena was fighting for his life.
Speaker 5: I don't think it was because of the like the heaviness.
Speaker 2: It was just like he couldn't reach like I saw,
Speaker 2: like because he was trying to hold it like diagonally,
Speaker 2: like he got one hand and then he could like
Speaker 2: just barely reach like like I saw, he was struggling.
Speaker 2: But I didn't think it was like, oh he can't
Speaker 2: like he's too weak to lift it or anything.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Because even on the I listened to Stephanie podcast, He's
Speaker 1: he's been talking about like I can't lift like I could. Yeah,
Speaker 1: He's like you see that record on the wall, I
Speaker 1: can't even get anywhere near that. So I think it
Speaker 1: was a bit of both. I think it was just
Speaker 1: like he had shaken. He's even too, like when they
Speaker 1: did the Avalanche AA and the bottom rope was out,
Speaker 1: when he stepped on the middle rope, the middle rope
Speaker 1: was like I was like, oh my god. Like there's
Speaker 1: so many times I was like, Sina's gonna get fucking
Speaker 1: angel because I've always thought about like when we're in
Speaker 1: this now, but when they announced Rock and Scena like
Speaker 1: a year had and everyone's like, what happens to someone
Speaker 1: gets injured, I've always thought that about right now, like
Speaker 1: what happens if Scena gets injured? Like what do they do?
Speaker 1: They just delay the retirement tour. You know, it's just
Speaker 1: and I flashes in this match. I thought he's going down.
Speaker 5: So in the TLC match, is just going back to it, Ranald.
Speaker 2: Like a bunch of times when they were setting up ladders,
Speaker 2: like right in the middle, it was looking like very
Speaker 2: like like like the mat was like very like light
Speaker 2: or bouncy to me, Yeah, to the point where I
Speaker 2: was thinking that at some point someone was gonna like
Speaker 2: go through the ring like the spot of like it's.
Speaker 5: Like put through the ring.
Speaker 2: Like I thought they were gonna do, like how do
Speaker 2: you take like the edge spear off the ladder like
Speaker 2: till the next level would be like spearing him off
Speaker 2: like a huge ladder like through the ring.
Speaker 5: But I guess it was just like I don't know,
Speaker 5: it was just.
Speaker 3: They probably had to take some give out of it
Speaker 3: for the falls and spots and things like that and give.
Speaker 4: It a little bit more bounce to it.
Speaker 2: There was a time where like the Morcy machine guns
Speaker 2: were taking a while to like set up the ladder
Speaker 2: to climate because it kept like bouncing, like they didn't
Speaker 2: want to step on it because like they would put
Speaker 2: it down and it would like bounce pretty much. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so there was definitely some spots of the ring that
Speaker 2: were like different in some way.
Speaker 1: And like I said, think God's seen a I think
Speaker 1: I'd seen and got it out of there. But uh yeah,
Speaker 1: let's see we talked. Yeah, no, this fun match. I
Speaker 1: think I still think what we say is happening, ag
Speaker 1: is winning in Paris or like a braw main event.
Speaker 1: I think this was a good way to do it.
Speaker 1: It's fun, like we.
Speaker 2: Just saw with the whole story obviously of like it
Speaker 2: was a very comedic storyline and even like it even
Speaker 2: fits with like the AJ like dressing as different people
Speaker 2: like to do like the Eddie cosplay here.
Speaker 5: Yeah it works, and yeah, it was a fun.
Speaker 1: Match and it was crazy. This made me feel so
Speaker 1: old because they were talking about twenty years ago that
Speaker 1: Ladder match was man, I was in that arena and
Speaker 1: as a kid, I was there yelling for Eddie to
Speaker 1: punch Dominant because I was a big Eddie guy. I
Speaker 1: was likely because there's a moment in the match which
Speaker 1: it's so crazy, but like he's like, when you're with me,
Speaker 1: you're on what it means to be a man and
Speaker 1: what it means to be a man is this and
Speaker 1: he starts to go back and like, I remember because
Speaker 1: the commentary is like, oh my god, that's sound of
Speaker 1: a Betro's gonna hit him and Ray stops him. But
Speaker 1: like literally, Eddie was about to hit Tominick, which I love.
Speaker 1: This week, I can't remember what the question was. It
Speaker 1: was something not even setting Dominic up for the answer.
Speaker 1: It's the biggest regrets and rest or something and he's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: when Ray beat Eddie, it was just awful, Like I
Speaker 1: could have been raised as a guerrero. I love that
Speaker 1: he just lives the gimmick that Eddie's his dad and they.
Speaker 2: Raised a hole like on the YouTube, like celebrating the
Speaker 2: twenty year career of Dominic.
Speaker 5: Mysterious.
Speaker 1: Oh I love me, he said. The press are right,
Speaker 1: he's like a twenty year veteran.
Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, I'm probably wrestling as long as as
Speaker 2: AJ has.
Speaker 1: That's man like. He's if you would have told me
Speaker 1: in like ten years, five years from now, he's probably
Speaker 1: gonna be like the top four in the Company'll be like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's crazy, but now it's like, yeah, he'll probably be
Speaker 1: whether it's a bay or heel. He's gonna people. He's
Speaker 1: winning the world what w titled at some point next
Speaker 1: five years. It is happening. He is I don't know
Speaker 1: if bay face or heel, but like if he's a heel,
Speaker 1: that is a perfect money to the bank winner one day.
Speaker 1: That is that is so perfect. Like he's winning the
Speaker 1: world title. He is somehow a bigger ceiling than fucking
Speaker 1: Finn Balad, which is crazy to say, but like he
Speaker 1: does because he's great in the ring. He lives the
Speaker 1: gimmick everything like that. But yeah, I think this match
Speaker 1: was everything need to be. Uh and then was that
Speaker 1: it was that that's it. That's it. So that's everything
Speaker 1: we talked about. Wow, so we did we Honestly, if
Speaker 1: the brock didn't happen, this show would have been like
Speaker 1: much shorter. That took up a you know, forty minutes
Speaker 1: of it. But uh yeah, overall, I thought it was
Speaker 1: a good night. Like I can rate it like separately,
Speaker 1: like I think I gave on Kickbox like last time
Speaker 1: I got three point two five. Overall, this is like
Speaker 1: I think, like a four point five. Like even though
Speaker 1: aj Don was like good, it's nothing like crazy good.
Speaker 1: In the cage match was kind of like a like
Speaker 1: a underwel Actually I'd go for four point five shigh,
Speaker 1: because even the women's triple eight or triple threat was
Speaker 1: good and the Becky finish was a little odd. So
Speaker 1: I think that's where I am. I think I have
Speaker 1: like a four out of five for this snay because
Speaker 1: I think the nd ring stuff was really good. Some decisions,
Speaker 1: many decisions, but even just some regular match decisions were
Speaker 1: head scratching of like, okay, what what were we thinking here?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 3: So I had it at about a four point two
Speaker 3: five before when they were hugging it out at the end,
Speaker 3: I was like, man, this is a good four point
Speaker 3: two five, four point five p l Like they really
Speaker 3: redeemed themselves. So again, if if you hit the stop
Speaker 3: button right then and there, it's a four point two
Speaker 3: five easily, and everyone who performed on this show did great.
Speaker 1: Again, you just had the black cloud over it, Yeah,
Speaker 1: which is gonna be interesting.
Speaker 2: So I have to think I plealy I probably put
Speaker 2: this yeah slightly above yesterday's show. Uh, probably about the
Speaker 2: same as you guys, as like a four in that range.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well there we go. So I just want
Speaker 1: to confirm because we did this yesterday for been doors
Speaker 1: date there, which is August twenty fourth, So yeah, that's
Speaker 1: I think the next time we will be because Clash
Speaker 1: is that isn't it a Sunday though thirty it's a
Speaker 1: Sunday though right four is on a Sunday, but at
Speaker 1: least uh no, well, I meant for Clash too, because
Speaker 1: they usually don't do them Sundays anymore. But because I
Speaker 1: think the time, like the time difference, let me find
Speaker 1: out what time it is because maybe we'll be going
Speaker 1: live that day. Let's see time start time on Sunday too, well,
Speaker 1: I think is there impaison the probably start like in
Speaker 1: the afternoon or something right like time.
Speaker 2: Other times they start like the last time it was
Speaker 2: in Pairs that started at like.
Speaker 1: One, so it's supposedly starting at ten am PSD for
Speaker 1: so yeah, so yeah, right right right, that's why I'm
Speaker 1: thinking you're thinking one. I'm like, yeah, ten yeah, so
Speaker 1: for me, so yeah, I think we'll probably we'll probably.
Speaker 2: I just saw like from like a scoop of like
Speaker 2: what's next for Becky or who it is?
Speaker 1: There's a meme, a real scoop. I think, okay, Ken,
Speaker 1: I can at least gives the hint. Is it something
Speaker 1: someone that's already on raw right now?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think they're technically Oh.
Speaker 1: No, they're technically okay, So next that's so before you guess,
Speaker 1: we'll say, yeah, we'll do next gimmick will be August
Speaker 1: thirty first, because that's an earlier afternoon pay per view,
Speaker 1: so we'll watch it and then at some point during
Speaker 1: the day we'll do that. So we'll cover Clash in
Speaker 1: Paris and for Bindors. So that's the next one, and
Speaker 1: at some point we'll decide when GM mode the next
Speaker 1: stream is for season three, so look up for that.
Speaker 1: But okay, someone's on the raw roster.
Speaker 5: I'm trying to think.
Speaker 2: I don't think they've really like interacted, like as of late,
Speaker 2: I can't think of well, I mean Becky has been
Speaker 2: like she's doing like her Becky verse, Like I don't
Speaker 2: think she's talked to anyone besides the Lira Bailey for
Speaker 2: like the is.
Speaker 1: It is it a newbie or a veteran a veteran?
Speaker 1: Is it Natalia?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 3: Okay, must say, uh my guess would have been Oscar, but.
Speaker 1: No, okay, I thought it's Tally because imagine they find
Speaker 1: let her do the Natty you know, blood sport gimmick
Speaker 1: and like fire up there. But okay, where you're both from?
Speaker 1: Who is it? It's nik Oh okay, you know what.
Speaker 1: A couple of weeks ago we did this, but you
Speaker 1: know what, we're doing another run again? Cause are you first?
Speaker 1: I think? Shut up?
Speaker 4: Oh god, you're showing come on, huh isn't that right?
Speaker 1: Brother?
Speaker 6: This funny who they're They are going out of their
Speaker 6: way to fuck me?
Speaker 1: Oh I lie, there's more. Are you fucking kidding me?
Speaker 1: And the last one of my favor kid me Jesus Christ. No,
Speaker 1: we're gonna get Becky and Nikki Bell f with the
Speaker 1: icy title. At first went SPO's buscle picture. I'm like, nah,
Speaker 1: I don't know if that works. It feels weird. Were
Speaker 1: in the secondary right now. I would take anything. And again,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that he feels like all time backs.
Speaker 1: It's just like, oh, man, like between Nikki and Brock
Speaker 1: and some of these decisions, Man, I Vince McMahon, I'm
Speaker 1: waiting for that. No chance to help me is to
Speaker 1: hit any day and be like, man, I've been consulted
Speaker 1: like this. This is feeling like fucking twenty like twenty
Speaker 1: twenty twenty, like twenty eighteen, like Nikki.
Speaker 7: Bella and Becky like really, like that's that's what Becky
Speaker 7: wants to do. Becky wants to work with Nikki Bella,
Speaker 7: Like what are we gonna get here? Like going from
Speaker 7: Lyra and Nikki. I hope it's just like a one
Speaker 7: month and done, like Saturday Night it's made event thing,
Speaker 7: then sure, but like, oh my god, promo and then look,
Speaker 7: oh my god, I can't believe that's a real thing.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. And then they're gonna have to talk
Speaker 1: about beck to Meg, Yeah, you really did start the
Speaker 1: women's evolution, but I evolved it and like no, no, no,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I wish it wasn't Italia. Fuck, I
Speaker 1: wish where's Natty? Well there you go. Maybe Clash and
Speaker 1: Paris were talking about Nikki Bella versus Becky Lynch. We
Speaker 1: will see, We'll be back, I'll see. If you didn't listen,
Speaker 1: check out we did night want a full review that
Speaker 1: was a bit more of a fun review. This is
Speaker 1: a controversial episode, but check out that you said check
Speaker 1: out in the streams. We've done two seasons now of
Speaker 1: GM Mode on two K twenty five. We will do
Speaker 1: season three. At some point we'll start that back up
Speaker 1: and yeah, lots of good gimmicks stuff. Thank everyone to
Speaker 1: listen as in the chat, everyone that listen after the fact.
Speaker 1: Thank you guys for being here. Two episodes in a row.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, who knows what's gonna happen in a month's time,
Speaker 1: but it won't be born. We'll catch you then