Speaker 1: And I just turned around and I call ass out
Speaker 1: of there.
Speaker 2: I was done. I wasn't dealing with them.
Speaker 3: The hypocrisy of the cult is one of the things
Speaker 3: that turned me away the quickest.
Speaker 2: When I turned my head lights on, it turned and
Speaker 2: looked at us.
Speaker 4: And one of the things I remember the most, where
Speaker 4: the eyes were glowing red. I see an orb of light.
Speaker 2: It is just circling these steps like it is waiting
Speaker 2: for me. And he begins to tell them that he
Speaker 2: saw UFO.
Speaker 3: They're basically like, what are you talking about.
Speaker 1: That's seven foot up on a tree, peeking around it,
Speaker 1: and that's where I saw.
Speaker 2: The top of the muzzle, noose and the eyes.
Speaker 3: As soon as I made eye contact with this thing,
Speaker 3: I don't like death.
Speaker 4: Welcome back to Tinfoil Tells. I'm your host Brandon Tonight.
Speaker 4: I am joined by my guest Valerie. Valerie, thanks for
Speaker 4: coming out here and talking to me.
Speaker 3: Thank you for having me. It's great to be.
Speaker 4: Here, not a problem. Would you like to let the
Speaker 4: audience know a little bit about yourself.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I am. When I was little, I started getting
Speaker 3: those psychic type senses, being able to sense things, really
Speaker 3: sensitive to spirit world and things like that, and throughout
Speaker 3: my life, I started being tormented by these things. I
Speaker 3: started seeing them. I started in in situations where I
Speaker 3: was just terrified, and then eventually I brought myself out
Speaker 3: of it where now I'm not afraid of any of
Speaker 3: this stuff anymore, and I just know I want to
Speaker 3: be able to help people that are in situations where
Speaker 3: they have haunted homes or if they have things tormenting
Speaker 3: them in their homes and things. And so that's kind
Speaker 3: of what I do now.
Speaker 4: How often, I don't know how often? Be like, how
Speaker 4: many of people have you actually interacted with here? So
Speaker 4: you started doing this.
Speaker 3: Maybe about twenty I got about twenty people that I've
Speaker 3: you know, helped so far through through mine. No, mine
Speaker 3: was basically, you know, purging the stuff out of my
Speaker 3: own life, right, and then kind of going from there.
Speaker 3: And I did a lot of studying, a lot of
Speaker 3: learning about how to go about those types of things.
Speaker 3: I how to do home cleansings, how to do deliverance
Speaker 3: or exorcism kind of stuff, and how to you know,
Speaker 3: just how to do that. I had to learn first,
Speaker 3: and then I'm trying to I'd like to be able
Speaker 3: to help people, and I help you know, there was
Speaker 3: one little girl that I was at a church and
Speaker 3: they were having a prayer and I this one little
Speaker 3: girl was talking to me and she she was telling
Speaker 3: me things that had happened to me when I was little,
Speaker 3: and it broke my heart because she was being tormented
Speaker 3: by like demonic spirits. They were coming into her room
Speaker 3: and they were, you know, touching her like at her
Speaker 3: ankles or her feet, you know, playing with her hair,
Speaker 3: just messing with her, and she was seeing them and
Speaker 3: she was telling me how scared she was, and it
Speaker 3: made me cry. And that's what made me want to help,
Speaker 3: is because it just broke my heart that children are
Speaker 3: being tormented and adults and I just really I have
Speaker 3: a heart for that. I want to be able to
Speaker 3: let them be happy and free in their own home
Speaker 3: without being afraid. They shouldn't have to be afraid.
Speaker 4: Right, I agree.
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's that's kind of what I want to do.
Speaker 3: I want to be able to help people out of
Speaker 3: those situations. There's not a lot of places to go
Speaker 3: for that. No, you go to a Catholic church and
Speaker 3: they want you to jump through hoops, or you go
Speaker 3: to a Christian church and sometimes they're like, oh, you're crazy,
Speaker 3: you know, or you need medical help or you know,
Speaker 3: and I'm just like, no, you know, they're just not
Speaker 3: teaching it.
Speaker 4: So it's very hard to get taken seriously when it
Speaker 4: comes with some of these topics.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it is. And at first I thought I
Speaker 3: was like, am I just you know, am I have
Speaker 3: I lost my mind? Am I just seeing something real?
Speaker 3: But then things started happening with other people and they
Speaker 3: were experiencing the same things I was experiencing. So I'm like, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: that is on. It's you know, this is a thing.
Speaker 4: So a lot of people have experiences I think that
Speaker 4: just kind of ignore it.
Speaker 3: They Yeah, I did that for a while. I tried.
Speaker 4: It's easier for some people just to not admit that
Speaker 4: there's something going on rather than actually coming to terms
Speaker 4: when something could be going on, because then when you
Speaker 4: open that door, you have to start thinking about a
Speaker 4: bunch of other things. That's how I used to be,
Speaker 4: but anymore, I just kind of embraced it at this point, like, no,
Speaker 4: there's weird crap going on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean sometimes you can't. And I like, I've
Speaker 3: had things fly off my walls just out of the blue.
Speaker 3: So there's something You're like, there's no way that thing
Speaker 3: just lifted up the wall and flew across the room, right,
Speaker 3: that has happened to me? So and you try to
Speaker 3: find like, you know, trying to find an answer to,
Speaker 3: you know, a rational answer, but sometimes there just isn't one.
Speaker 4: So as much as I try and explain things off,
Speaker 4: you get left in a situation where you can't explain it.
Speaker 4: And the only thing that left is to the unexplainable.
Speaker 4: So then you have.
Speaker 3: To exactly what it is. And a lot of people
Speaker 3: they just don't know how to handle that. They're like, Okay,
Speaker 3: well what do I do, right? You know? Do I
Speaker 3: move or do I go talk to somebody? Or do
Speaker 3: I just sit here and just indore? You know? And
Speaker 3: I just I want to help give people another option.
Speaker 4: I guess that's very very noble of you.
Speaker 3: Thank you. I just I just know what that trauma
Speaker 3: is like. So I just I don't I wouldn't watch
Speaker 3: that on anybody.
Speaker 4: Well, if you would like to begin from the beginning,
Speaker 4: you can go right.
Speaker 3: Ahead, okay, okay, okay. At the beginning, these these senses
Speaker 3: and things, they kind of grew within time. At the beginning,
Speaker 3: it was just a sense, you know, like, oh, I
Speaker 3: sent something over there, and I didn't really pay attention
Speaker 3: to it because I thought everybody was kind of like
Speaker 3: that sounds like a kid, you know. I was just
Speaker 3: this little five six year old kid. And then I
Speaker 3: started having I don't know if I know, on these
Speaker 3: types of shows with the supernatural or the cryptid type
Speaker 3: stuff where they talked about mediums who have those snapshots
Speaker 3: in their head where they see a picture and then
Speaker 3: it goes and it's like one of those psychic medium
Speaker 3: type things. That started happening to me. And then the
Speaker 3: big thing that happened that kind of kicked it all
Speaker 3: off was when I was seven years old, my great
Speaker 3: grandpa died and he was Native American, and when he
Speaker 3: passed away, my mom and dad went to the funeral,
Speaker 3: and when she came home, I remember hearing her talking
Speaker 3: with my grandparents, you know, my other grandparents out in
Speaker 3: the living room, and I started getting this feeling that
Speaker 3: there because I always had that feeling that something was there,
Speaker 3: you know, I always had that sense of something hovering
Speaker 3: over you or just like a presence. So this got
Speaker 3: to where it was really, really, really bad, and I
Speaker 3: got so freaked out, and I was really really scared
Speaker 3: and I didn't know why. And then I remember I
Speaker 3: was playing with one of those little Fisher Price record
Speaker 3: players that had little squiggly plastics. I just remember that
Speaker 3: very vividly. But I looked up and in my mirror
Speaker 3: was this old woman and her eyes were completely white,
Speaker 3: and I just sat there frozen for a second, and
Speaker 3: she started like it was like she starts smiling or
Speaker 3: she started it was like her teeth and I could
Speaker 3: see her teeth and they were like all nasty and
Speaker 3: you know, and I just screamed. And from that day
Speaker 3: on is when I started seeing actual things that weren't
Speaker 3: pictures or visions or whatever, you know, the psychic vision
Speaker 3: type things. I don't know if it kind of attached
Speaker 3: to me through litle bloodline thing, because happened right after
Speaker 3: he passed away, and I don't know if it was
Speaker 3: something that moved from him to me. I don't know,
Speaker 3: because I know families a lot of times have those
Speaker 3: types of you know, the daughter, the next daughter and
Speaker 3: the grandkid. You know, sometimes those abilities are passed down. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I've heard stuff, so yeah, and so I didn't know
Speaker 3: but that that thing attached to me. I eventually got
Speaker 3: it to leave it. It took me over over forty years
Speaker 3: to deal with it. But and then I had another
Speaker 3: situation where, you know, I would see things all the time.
Speaker 3: A lot of times you were there's a little shadow
Speaker 3: people that you see in periphal vision. I would see
Speaker 3: those all the time, and I would try to sleep
Speaker 3: on my parents' floor because I was so freaked out
Speaker 3: because I was I was only seven eight years old,
Speaker 3: and these things were running outside of my hallway. I
Speaker 3: would see them pass my doorway and they were just
Speaker 3: those little tiny shadow figures. I now, I call him
Speaker 3: house deep.
Speaker 2: Inside, don't know.
Speaker 3: It's just like they're just like these little four foot
Speaker 3: tall things, you know, They're just shadows, no features, no nothing,
Speaker 3: just shadows. And I would see them run across my
Speaker 3: door and I would just I'd be terrified. I'd be
Speaker 3: laying there just frozen as a little kid. And then
Speaker 3: after a while, Uh, we moved to another house. And
Speaker 3: this I found really funny was we had these stairs.
Speaker 3: When you would open the door the front door, there
Speaker 3: were stairs that went up and the stairs that went down,
Speaker 3: and if you went up, there was a walk through
Speaker 3: the kitchen well and it was straight up through the stairs.
Speaker 3: So when you would go down these stairs, you always
Speaker 3: had that feeling. You know people talk about when you
Speaker 3: turn the light off when you're going up, scares you felick,
Speaker 3: something's chasing you. That's how it was when you would
Speaker 3: go down the stairs. And I always just freaked out
Speaker 3: about that. So one day I thought, you know, I
Speaker 3: was gonna get some balls, and I was going to
Speaker 3: walk down the stairs. I was going to turn around
Speaker 3: and see who it was. And what I saw a
Speaker 3: note to you. Right on out of there. I saw
Speaker 3: I was standing on the on the like third or
Speaker 3: fourth stair, and I looked up in this really tall,
Speaker 3: pale white woman with really black dark hair came flying
Speaker 3: towards me, and she was just like running full force,
Speaker 3: running towards me. So I took off and went down
Speaker 3: the stairs. And the thing that makes you know that
Speaker 3: weird because my mom had seen it, and then my
Speaker 3: aunt she didn't believe in the supernatural stuff. She doesn't
Speaker 3: believe in any of that. And the hat that house,
Speaker 3: we were renting it from her friend's parents, and she
Speaker 3: said that. One day she was talking to me, She's like,
Speaker 3: you remember living there. I was like, yeah. She's like,
Speaker 3: remember them stairs. I said yeah, and she goes, every
Speaker 3: time we ran down them stairs, she goes, you always
Speaker 3: felt like you had to run. She goes, her friend
Speaker 3: had ran down the stairs. She's like one time, she's like,
Speaker 3: you know, her friend had sprained her ankle. She was
Speaker 3: running so fast and fell and I was sitting there like,
Speaker 3: no way. I was like, I can confirmation, you know so.
Speaker 3: And she didn't believe in any of that. So those
Speaker 3: kind of things would happen to me all the time.
Speaker 3: Things would fly out the closet randomly. At my friend's house.
Speaker 3: We would sit there and she saw things too, and
Speaker 3: we ended up making because we were just dabbling and
Speaker 3: a lot of dark stuff when we got older, and
Speaker 3: she had this little doll. It was a clown and
Speaker 3: I hate clowns. They're terrifying. But she had this little
Speaker 3: clown doll and she would put it in her closet,
Speaker 3: in the very back of her closet, and we would
Speaker 3: back up and sit on the bed and that thing
Speaker 3: would fly out of her closet and land on the floor.
Speaker 3: And we were stupid kids, teenagers, like we made it
Speaker 3: a game, like we would go up and put the
Speaker 3: the clown back in. We'd get a timer and sit
Speaker 3: there and wait and see how long it took the
Speaker 3: fly out. I mean it would happen regularly all the time.
Speaker 3: So it seemed like everywhere I went there was weird stuff.
Speaker 3: There was something you would see something or something would happen.
Speaker 4: So did you feel like it was because of you
Speaker 4: bringing that energy like you.
Speaker 3: Were no, because we would do Wiji boards and stuff.
Speaker 3: I opened so many doorways, Yeah, I opened so many.
Speaker 3: I was just like glutton for a punishment. It was like, oh,
Speaker 3: you know, it's like I was craving it, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean, like, Oh I need the adrenaline rush,
Speaker 3: Oh I need the you know. I would just do that.
Speaker 3: And it seems like when I would enter the room,
Speaker 3: I think things were attached to me because I would
Speaker 3: en an the room and the candles will go out
Speaker 3: or you know, just something weird. When it was always
Speaker 3: something weird, and it just it just was ongoing, you know,
Speaker 3: all the time. It's always something really weird. Then I
Speaker 3: started hearing things like voices, like I would hear somebody
Speaker 3: say something to me and I'm you know, it would
Speaker 3: be weird. Like you know, some years back. I heard him.
Speaker 3: Me and my husband are watching me a fight, and
Speaker 3: something said that guy's gonna win. About half an hour later,
Speaker 3: that guy wins the fight. And it was like a
Speaker 3: kind of like a telekinetic kind of thing, like a
Speaker 3: familiar spirit type of thing. It was almost like I
Speaker 3: could hear it, and I would hear things like, you know,
Speaker 3: just random stuff like that girl's going to turn left,
Speaker 3: you go right and I go right, and I gir,
Speaker 3: I'm just like okay, I mean, just weird stuff. And
Speaker 3: I didn't. I didn't get it. You know. It was
Speaker 3: I would I would sense things about people, you know,
Speaker 3: I'd be able to tell them stuff. And so it
Speaker 3: got to be where, you know, I was born with
Speaker 3: psychic medium gifts, but I think they're supposed to be
Speaker 3: used for God in darkness. And as soon as I
Speaker 3: started using them for God instead, I lost all fear
Speaker 3: of these start things. I was no longer afraid. But
Speaker 3: it took a while because I mean when I when
Speaker 3: I when I started going back into the church and stuff,
Speaker 3: my church ain't like it's a Pentecostal charismatic so it's
Speaker 3: just like wow, crazy every time, you know, And I
Speaker 3: ended up quitting going to church and just doing my
Speaker 3: own thing because there was a lot of religious spirit
Speaker 3: type things there I guess, you know, like very judgmental,
Speaker 3: very you know, the thing that they say about Christians.
Speaker 3: I didn't like that, and I didn't believe that was
Speaker 3: the character of God either, So I quit going to church.
Speaker 3: But I do a lot of my mom's pastor, so
Speaker 3: I get enough of that from her. So so yeah,
Speaker 3: but I ended up being able to kind of conquer
Speaker 3: all the fear and all that, you know. I mean,
Speaker 3: I had another thing that when I was little, I
Speaker 3: think I was maybe nine or ten. I was in
Speaker 3: my room and I was in bed, and I was
Speaker 3: going to go to sleep, and I got to where
Speaker 3: like I always wanted the light on. I didn't want
Speaker 3: to turn the light off because I felt safer with
Speaker 3: the light on. It was like I wanted to be
Speaker 3: able to see my surroundings. And it wasn't because I
Speaker 3: was afraid of the dark. It's because I was afraid
Speaker 3: of what I saw in the dark. So I'm laying
Speaker 3: there and this seven foot tall looking it was like
Speaker 3: six to seven foot tall thing comes walking in my
Speaker 3: room and I started thinking to look like the grim reaper.
Speaker 3: Reaper is like in a long cloak, and it had
Speaker 3: no facial features. It walked in my room, it bent
Speaker 3: down and it stared at me, and I was just
Speaker 3: frozen in my bed. I thought, do not breathe, do
Speaker 3: not move, do not you know, I didn't know what
Speaker 3: was going to happen. And when I started praying in
Speaker 3: my head because I grew up in a Christian home,
Speaker 3: so I started praying in my head and it turned
Speaker 3: around and it walked out of my room. And then
Speaker 3: my dad. About ten years later, my dad was telling
Speaker 3: me a story about something that happened to him, and
Speaker 3: it was the exact same thing. Something in a grim,
Speaker 3: reaper looking cloak walked in his room, bent down and
Speaker 3: looked at him, and then walked out. So it was
Speaker 3: the same thing with both of us.
Speaker 4: It's strange to me though, if the house was you
Speaker 4: would think if your mom's a pastor a preacher in
Speaker 4: the house. Yeah, with Christian and everything, you think something
Speaker 4: like that wouldn't be welcome to come in there in
Speaker 4: the first place.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it wasn't. But the thing is, when I was
Speaker 3: dabbling with stuff, they attached to me. So when I
Speaker 3: would come home, you see my mom, My mom. It
Speaker 3: was funny. She was one of those Pentecosts. She's annoyting
Speaker 3: house of oil, and she's you know, you know, so
Speaker 3: it was kind of like attached to me. And then
Speaker 3: when I would go into the house, it was like
Speaker 3: it gave it a right because it was with me.
Speaker 3: But then my mom was all mad, you know so,
Speaker 3: and things only happened around me. They didn't really happen
Speaker 3: around everybody else. It was just me. And then you'd
Speaker 3: hear my mom praying stuff out of the house and
Speaker 3: and it's just because I opened all them them doorways
Speaker 3: and and it just it wasn't good.
Speaker 4: So from my from my personal experiences, I grew up
Speaker 4: in Pentecostal too, but they were not over the top
Speaker 4: in the since like I've seen some of them are.
Speaker 4: Like this was pretty much is like what I would
Speaker 4: consider normal, except for they spoken tongues and I always
Speaker 4: thought that was kind of strange, even.
Speaker 2: The little kids.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but yeah, they did the same things though with
Speaker 4: like with the oils and everything else too.
Speaker 3: Yeah. We there was also what people would call extracisms,
Speaker 3: but we call them deliverance. Like there was fun Sunday.
Speaker 3: I remember, I was like thirteen, and right in the
Speaker 3: middle of Sunday service, this guy gets up and he
Speaker 3: just starts screaming. But the creepy thing is it was
Speaker 3: not his voice. It sounded like five six voices all
Speaker 3: in one voice. It was the creepiest sound I ever
Speaker 3: heard in my life. And he slams into the wall
Speaker 3: and he's screaming, and guy starts growling, and they take
Speaker 3: him out in the hallway, I remember, and this dude's
Speaker 3: spitting in there and is nasty. And I was just
Speaker 3: watching because I just I wanted to see what was happening.
Speaker 3: And I was just a teenager, and it did scare
Speaker 3: me because they had this guy pinned on the floor
Speaker 3: and they had this big table. It was like it
Speaker 3: was like one of those tables in some of them
Speaker 3: old churches with like hundreds and hundreds of pounds. You know.
Speaker 3: It took like six guys to lift this thing up.
Speaker 3: This guy was on his stomach and grabbed one leg
Speaker 3: of the table during this and lifted the table. I
Speaker 3: was like, oh, nah, nah, you know, it's like I'm going,
Speaker 3: I'm out. You could hear him. He was screaming and
Speaker 3: cussing and yelling, and when he came back, he was
Speaker 3: completely normal. All the guys came. I mean, it was
Speaker 3: wild stuff what happened at our church. But to me,
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, just another Sunday, you know, I
Speaker 3: just just kind of I got used to it. But
Speaker 3: I quit going and because of a lot of that
Speaker 3: judgment type stuff because I didn't believe that was right.
Speaker 3: So I have my own views on That's part.
Speaker 4: Of the reason why I don't go myself. So I
Speaker 4: don't follow anyone for feeling that way. And I get
Speaker 4: lectured a lot about you don't go to church because
Speaker 4: of the people. You go because of a relationship with God.
Speaker 4: But I am of the mindset of you don't have
Speaker 4: to go to a church to have a relationship with God.
Speaker 3: I agree, I totally agree. I don't think. I don't
Speaker 3: think you have to go. I think it's it's what's
Speaker 3: in your heart, you know what I mean. I think
Speaker 3: you've got a relationship with God. I don't believe God's
Speaker 3: in a building, you know, I don't.
Speaker 4: So, yeah, I don't think God's in the building in
Speaker 4: the sense that they requires you to come there every
Speaker 4: day to worship him or not every of it. Every Sunday.
Speaker 4: I don't think God wants to ties in your offerings.
Speaker 4: I don't think you buy your way into heaven by
Speaker 4: offering up money. Oh No, commercial wise, organized religion is
Speaker 4: where I frown upon things, and if that route people
Speaker 4: the wrong way, it's fine. But I have my own
Speaker 4: beliefs and that's just how it is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a that's how I feel too, I am.
Speaker 3: I think my relationship with God is just private to me.
Speaker 3: I don't really I don't go to a church. My
Speaker 3: mom has a small church, but I don't go because
Speaker 3: being the pastor's daughter kind of sucks sometimes, right, because
Speaker 3: everyone's looking at you and whatever you do reflects on her.
Speaker 3: So I just I don't like that position. So that's
Speaker 3: one of the reasons I don't put our church that much.
Speaker 3: But I didn't like, you know, like control aspects, you know,
Speaker 3: smack you on a hands with a ruler, like you
Speaker 3: got to be this way, you got to I don't
Speaker 3: believe that. I believe I love people where they are.
Speaker 3: I guess.
Speaker 4: I understand the concepts of wanting people to be a
Speaker 4: certain way in the sense that they're supposed to be
Speaker 4: falling this righteous path, but at the same time, everyone
Speaker 4: needs to make their own path.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Now, people can offer help guidance, but you cannot force
Speaker 4: someone to live a certain way because uh huh. That's
Speaker 4: how you get rebellious and that's how you start doing
Speaker 4: things and that's how you start opening up dark portals,
Speaker 4: and you can't force people to be a specific way exactly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think, I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 3: I think all types. I mean, he loves everybody, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, like it's where you're at kind
Speaker 3: of thing. I'm just not people are going to be
Speaker 3: people regardless, So so yeah, I yeah, I just keep
Speaker 3: my mind. I don't I'm not like a my mom
Speaker 3: being a pastor, she likes to do the preaching course.
Speaker 3: Me I'm the one that wants to sit in the back,
Speaker 3: just kind of sit there like all right, I'm here.
Speaker 3: But you know, but yeah, I am. I have to
Speaker 3: do a lot of weird stuff. You know. The weird
Speaker 3: thing is I think I think maybe the psychic ability
Speaker 3: type medium stuff with that being passed down, it skipped
Speaker 3: her and I mean it was like all the evil
Speaker 3: just landed on me and I just started opening doorways
Speaker 3: like I was, you know, just stupidly. And then I
Speaker 3: had to go back and I had to be I
Speaker 3: had to learn, and it took me years. I had
Speaker 3: to learn how to shut those doorways, completely shut them.
Speaker 4: I know and and say, I know people that take
Speaker 4: these sorts of abilities and they construe them into being
Speaker 4: an acts of the devil. So when you talk about
Speaker 4: psychic abilities and mediums and everything, a lot of Christian
Speaker 4: people say that as actual work of the devil. So
Speaker 4: you're not supposed to practice that because really witchcraft and
Speaker 4: then that is very shunned upon in a lot of
Speaker 4: religious circles.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I look into like you know, I don't really
Speaker 3: call myself a psych anymore. I just I believe I
Speaker 3: see in the spirit world. I can see what's going on.
Speaker 4: You're more in tune yea.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I renounced all the worldly aspects of psychics and mediums.
Speaker 3: But that's sometimes when you're talking to people. Sometimes that's
Speaker 3: what they understand when you say I'm a seer, They're
Speaker 3: like a seer of what you know. So that's how
Speaker 3: I closed my all them doorways. I wanted to purify,
Speaker 3: make sure I'm not I'm more into a prophetic realm
Speaker 3: instead of a psychic room. No, I understand you know
Speaker 3: what I mean. I try to I try to purify.
Speaker 3: That's what I did. You know. I went to a
Speaker 3: lot of deliverance to shut them doors and a lot
Speaker 3: of exorcism type stuff. I went through a lot of that.
Speaker 3: And the church, I agree, the church thinks people like
Speaker 3: that are weird. I never really fit in, you know.
Speaker 3: And I couldn't help that. I that I had this,
Speaker 3: you know. It wasn't like I prayed for it, you know.
Speaker 3: But yeah, the church just a lot of people don't understand.
Speaker 3: And what they don't understand they're afraid of.
Speaker 4: There's a fear of the unknown.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and to me, I was like, oh, I was
Speaker 3: all gung ho, let's let's go look for Bigfoot. Let's go.
Speaker 3: You know. I was like, I kind of was like,
Speaker 3: I like, I used to call myself a fringe Christian
Speaker 3: because I believe in God and I believe in those
Speaker 3: prophetic giftings and I have a more open mind because
Speaker 3: I think it's because those things have happened to me,
Speaker 3: and I've experienced certain things with other people and they've
Speaker 3: confirmed the exact same thing that I saw was what
Speaker 3: they saw. So I know it's real and I don't
Speaker 3: think I don't know. I know it's real, but I'm
Speaker 3: not accepted in a lot of Christian circles. There's like
Speaker 3: a select a like rust is Ar. I don't know
Speaker 3: if you've ever heard him. His teaching he does sra people,
Speaker 3: He gets people out of ritual abuse, and his teachings
Speaker 3: were great, Like it helped me to learn how to
Speaker 3: purify all that and make sure it's not coming from
Speaker 3: under my realm because it used to be. But I
Speaker 3: went through all that and now it's not. So Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'd like to kind of reach in and grab other
Speaker 3: people and pull them out of the dark stuff too.
Speaker 4: So was there anything else? Like I we talked a
Speaker 4: little bit, but like you mentioned the demonogram, there's some
Speaker 4: of that that you've had to deal with.
Speaker 3: Well when I was when I decided to go back
Speaker 3: to the church. After after I decided that, I thought,
Speaker 3: you know, maybe I should because I believe that when
Speaker 3: you when you're trying to purge kind of this stuff
Speaker 3: out of yourself and your home, you can't have a
Speaker 3: cult items in your home. You can't have certain things
Speaker 3: in your home because it opens a doorway for darkness.
Speaker 3: It kind of you know, opens that door. So there
Speaker 3: were things that I had a lot of books, a
Speaker 3: lot of things that I thought, well, I'm going to
Speaker 3: go burn these, you know, because I thought that's it'll
Speaker 3: be a way for me to get rid of them,
Speaker 3: get them out of my house. And I didn't want
Speaker 3: to give them away because I didn't want to pass
Speaker 3: that to someone else. So one day I told my mom,
Speaker 3: you know, hey, can I use your burn She has
Speaker 3: a lot of land and we sheh has a big
Speaker 3: fire pit, And I said, can I use your fire
Speaker 3: pits tomorrow? And she said yeah. I said, I'm going
Speaker 3: to go burn this stuff. And this is a story
Speaker 3: I haven't told anybody that much. But so I get
Speaker 3: all this stuff and I pack it into my car,
Speaker 3: you know. And that night I go to sleep, and
Speaker 3: a lot of times when something's going on spiritually, for
Speaker 3: some reason, I hear my back door slam. I don't
Speaker 3: know why. I don't know what the point is, but
Speaker 3: I heard that and it woke me up. And I
Speaker 3: looked over and I was looking and in my room,
Speaker 3: right at my doorway, there was this ball of light.
Speaker 3: It was like a bluish in the middle, and it
Speaker 3: kind of went whitish as it got bigger, and I'm
Speaker 3: just standing there. But for some reason, I felt really
Speaker 3: at peace. I didn't feel afraid of it. And my
Speaker 3: husband's snores. So we have two different rooms. So I'm
Speaker 3: laying there. Yeah, I have my own room and he
Speaker 3: has it. I can't. Yeah. So I'm laying there and
Speaker 3: I'm looking at this thing. And this thing was peaceful.
Speaker 3: But my husband's not a Christian, he doesn't believe in
Speaker 3: any of that. So I'm laying there. Everything's quiet, and
Speaker 3: most stuff I had in my car were books. So
Speaker 3: I'm laying there and next thing, I know, that thing's
Speaker 3: in my door. I feel it peaceful, and then I
Speaker 3: hear this huge crash. Something had went in his room
Speaker 3: and lifted this huge bookcase and it wasn't the bookcase
Speaker 3: I emptied, it was a different one and threw it
Speaker 3: across the room. And he's an engineer, so he's going,
Speaker 3: well maybe, well maybe, And I'm like, uh, you know,
Speaker 3: because that thing had been there for ten years, you know,
Speaker 3: it was not just gonna collapse, you know. And I
Speaker 3: see some other demonic type stuff. I had a boyfriend
Speaker 3: some years ago and his house was the most helmet
Speaker 3: house I'd ever been in my life. You would hear
Speaker 3: boots walking up and down the hallway. It sounded like
Speaker 3: big work boots. I'd be sitting there and you would
Speaker 3: hear stuff growling in a corner somewhere at like eleven
Speaker 3: thirty at night, you'd just hear growls, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: why does that happen? Like you know what, I thought,
Speaker 3: It happens every night at the same time, and I
Speaker 3: understand that. One night, I was laying in bed and
Speaker 3: I heard regular footsteps walking down the hallway. And I'm
Speaker 3: in bed and I'm just looking, and in his hallway,
Speaker 3: I see this little girl come walking around the corner.
Speaker 3: She had long black hair. She had completely pitch black eyes,
Speaker 3: and it made me instant think of the black eyed
Speaker 3: kids that the that people talk about. And I'm just
Speaker 3: standing her and I'm looking at her, and I mean
Speaker 3: a lot of times when I would see the stuff,
Speaker 3: I would freeze, you know, and just endure it. I
Speaker 3: just stood there, she stood there, and she sid her
Speaker 3: for like twenty minutes, and I just stared right back
Speaker 3: at her, just frozen. Also, in that house, they had
Speaker 3: no air conditioning, and his grandmother's room was ice cold.
Speaker 3: And when you would hear scratching at things. You could
Speaker 3: hear her and they're cussing at him. You know, she'd
Speaker 3: be in there cussing up a storm. Well, one night
Speaker 3: she's laying in there and she's going suns and blah blah.
Speaker 3: But you know, and she's yelling and screaming at him.
Speaker 3: She's like, leave me alone. And so next thing you hear,
Speaker 3: this is hard cra crack. Well, her headboard was wooden
Speaker 3: and something what she said, she felt the air go
Speaker 3: past her face and slam a fist into the back
Speaker 3: of her headboard, and her headboard was splintered. That splinters
Speaker 3: all about it. And he took me upstairs and showed
Speaker 3: me the headboard, and I was like, oh my god.
Speaker 3: You know, I mean, just just evil stuff would happen.
Speaker 3: You'd hear you know, talking and growling. You would hear
Speaker 3: stuff all the time in that house. Footsteps. I had
Speaker 3: an old man wake me up one morning, and I
Speaker 3: mean I was laying on the couch and I was asleep,
Speaker 3: and it woke me up and it just was looking
Speaker 3: at me, and then it turned around went up the
Speaker 3: stairs and you could see through this guy. And at
Speaker 3: that time I was terrified of all of this. So
Speaker 3: I just kind of noped out, you know, because I
Speaker 3: was the only one in the house, and I just
Speaker 3: went out and I sat in the grass until we
Speaker 3: got home because I was just terrified. But yeah, it
Speaker 3: weird things, A lot of weird things. I just I've heard,
Speaker 3: I've had dreams. I sometimes would have dreams and then
Speaker 3: they would happen. My mom has a neighbor, and my
Speaker 3: mom had went and visited her house, and I knew
Speaker 3: nothing about this, and she heard something snarling and it
Speaker 3: said to her, it told her that it wanted to
Speaker 3: take basically take this family out, and my mom said
Speaker 3: it sounded evil. I had like a raspy, you know,
Speaker 3: forty years smoking four packs a day kind of voice.
Speaker 3: And I didn't know nothing about this. So I go
Speaker 3: to sleep and I have this dream. And in this dream,
Speaker 3: I'm at the neighbor's house and I've never met this woman,
Speaker 3: and my mom never goes over there. She's only been
Speaker 3: over there a couple of times in like ten years
Speaker 3: or so. She lived in this house. And I had
Speaker 3: a dream that my mom was going to buy that house.
Speaker 3: And then when we got in there, I saw this
Speaker 3: thing in my dreams and it was like, what do
Speaker 3: they call it? It's that that pale white thing that
Speaker 3: people were seeing that had the rollong legs and it
Speaker 3: had like a frog type of mannerism, but it was humanoid.
Speaker 3: Call it what crawler. I had a dream and I
Speaker 3: saw one of those. It was he was white and
Speaker 3: he had no skin or no, he had no hair,
Speaker 3: pale white skin, and it it manners even though it
Speaker 3: looked human. It acted like a frog, like like it jumped,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, with its rear legs, and
Speaker 3: it was in my dream it was going after these deer. Well,
Speaker 3: I called my mom the next day and I'm telling her.
Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, I had this weird dream last night.
Speaker 3: And I I told her. She goes, oh my gosh,
Speaker 3: so what she goes? I heard that the house next
Speaker 3: door was for sale, So I went over and was
Speaker 3: talking to the lady that owns the house. She's like,
Speaker 3: and something was growling and said it wanted to take
Speaker 3: this whole family out, that it had been in this
Speaker 3: family for generations. And so that night, when I went
Speaker 3: to sleep, I had that dream and then I called
Speaker 3: her the next day, So she had no idea that
Speaker 3: I had dreamt that until I told her, and I
Speaker 3: had no idea she went over there. So, yeah, I
Speaker 3: would dream about things and they would end up being real.
Speaker 3: And there's really weird things. I know, I've had dreams of.
Speaker 3: She would go to she goes to Washington, d C.
Speaker 3: A lot with the church group, and I would have
Speaker 3: dreams of and Harry Potter. You know, they dementor things.
Speaker 3: Those things are real, the black wispy things. They don't
Speaker 3: try to psych your soul out, but those things are real.
Speaker 3: I've seen them before. And I had a dream that
Speaker 3: there were witches and those things were, you know, moving
Speaker 3: around in circles and flying around in circles. And my
Speaker 3: mom said that she went and broke a witchcraft alter
Speaker 3: and I told her where it was was right outside
Speaker 3: the Washington Memorial and she said, that's where we were.
Speaker 3: We were at the Washington Memorial. And yeah, so things
Speaker 3: like that would happen. I would see that, and I
Speaker 3: would dream about things and I wouldn't have any idea,
Speaker 3: And then when I would call and talk to her,
Speaker 3: she would say, yeah, we did you know, we did
Speaker 3: this and that's exactly what happened. And you know, so
Speaker 3: there were you know, there were a lot of dark
Speaker 3: things that I would see, you know. I I've had them,
Speaker 3: like the you know, the spider webs. Sometimes people would
Speaker 3: feel when they're laying in bed, you would feel that
Speaker 3: spider weavy feeling. I would get that, and sometimes I
Speaker 3: build things sitting on my bed. I've never been hurt, though,
Speaker 3: I have never been hurt by him, which is good.
Speaker 3: But I've I've felt them touched like my hair and stuff.
Speaker 3: I felt things like that.
Speaker 4: Have you ever had sleep paralysis?
Speaker 3: No, I haven't. That's I've wondered about that, because you'd
Speaker 3: figure i'd see something. I mean, I have woke up
Speaker 3: and seen things around, but I wasn't frozen, you know,
Speaker 3: I wasn't.
Speaker 4: I've had it a few times. I actually get it
Speaker 4: every so often, but I always just chalk it up
Speaker 4: to never being fully awake. I don't know. Maybe, like
Speaker 4: I said, i'dn't even heard of sleep paralysis until a
Speaker 4: few years ago. But it's been one of those things
Speaker 4: that I've had on and off here and there. And
Speaker 4: I'm like in that dream state where I'm looking around
Speaker 4: and I can see, but my body's not fully awake,
Speaker 4: so I'm not able to move. And then all of
Speaker 4: a sudden I wake up and I'm able to move.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 4: But I don't, like I said, people are not sleep proalysis,
Speaker 4: Like I don't know if that's what that really is
Speaker 4: or not.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I think my personal opinion, I think you
Speaker 3: know something has came into your room and your spirit
Speaker 3: or soul recognized it, like like how you know, like
Speaker 3: animals can sense things around them and stuff. But I
Speaker 3: think you know people do that too. Maybe there is
Speaker 3: something there you know, and you're just I don't know.
Speaker 3: I haven't made a total decision on what I think
Speaker 3: about that. I believe it happens. I just I don't
Speaker 3: know what's behind it all the way.
Speaker 4: My stance is, I don't try and write things into paranormal.
Speaker 4: I always try and say it's not paranormal. But that's
Speaker 4: just my personal way of going about it. So I
Speaker 4: don't like I said, yeah, I can't say what it
Speaker 4: is or not. I always just trying to rationalize it
Speaker 4: in the best way I can.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I try to rationalize things, and then sometime happens
Speaker 3: that kind of confirms that it wasn't natural. Times of
Speaker 3: me a lot, I am. My main thing was the dreams.
Speaker 3: I think I've never had the paralysis.
Speaker 4: Though it is weird to have it. I'll just leave
Speaker 4: it at that, Like, I'm not going to go any
Speaker 4: time or any more into it other than the fact that,
Speaker 4: like when it happens, it is strange. But yeah, there's
Speaker 4: no other way of explaining it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've never had it. I've never had it. I've
Speaker 3: woken up in the middle of the night, send the
Speaker 3: stuff in my room and actually sitting up and looking,
Speaker 3: you know, because a lot of times I would have
Speaker 3: that feeling that there was just something hovering over my
Speaker 3: bed when I was sleeping, and I'd sit up and
Speaker 3: look around and I wouldn't see anything a lot of times.
Speaker 3: But I've never woke up to you the whole paralysis
Speaker 3: kind of thing.
Speaker 4: Right. Is there anything else you'd like to discuss?
Speaker 3: Hm hmm. I just I think with all the things
Speaker 3: that I've seen and experience, and I was able to
Speaker 3: shut the doors that I opened, and I was able
Speaker 3: to and it took me years to be able to
Speaker 3: shut these doors and kind of close off any dark
Speaker 3: spiritual stuff. And when I was able to do that,
Speaker 3: I lost a lot of fear from all that stuff.
Speaker 3: And I I really I think I just want to
Speaker 3: help people to not be afraid and to you know,
Speaker 3: I think I want to. I opened up a YouTube channel,
Speaker 3: and I want to be able to teach people ways
Speaker 3: to do cleanses on their homes, ways to do things
Speaker 3: like that so that they're not they're not tormented by
Speaker 3: this stuff because I was, and I didn't have any
Speaker 3: control over it. I'd like to say for thirty five years,
Speaker 3: I was just tormented all the time. And the stories
Speaker 3: I did tell you, there's a lot of stuff that
Speaker 3: I haven't said to anyone, but it was like a
Speaker 3: daily occurrence for me. Something weird was always happening. I
Speaker 3: always felt oppressed, like something was in a room with me.
Speaker 3: I found out how to get rid of that feeling,
Speaker 3: and so I want to teach other people how to
Speaker 3: get rid of it too.
Speaker 4: What is your YouTube page called for anyone out there listening?
Speaker 3: Uh, Candle in the Darkness. Yeah, I have three videos
Speaker 3: so far. I'm learning, so be patient. I'm learning how
Speaker 3: to do all the YouTube stuff. But yeah, it's Candle
Speaker 3: in the Darkness And I get on there and I
Speaker 3: tell a lot of my situations that I've been through,
Speaker 3: and you know how I felt during that time, and
Speaker 3: I learned how to do you know, things like break
Speaker 3: bloodline curses. I learned how to to do deliverance, which
Speaker 3: people say us exorcism on mine. I learned how to
Speaker 3: do home cleanses. I learned how to to do all
Speaker 3: that kind of stuff, And I want to teach others
Speaker 3: how to do it so they're not in fear. I mean,
Speaker 3: you should be over in your home without being afraid.
Speaker 3: You know, you should be able to not be a
Speaker 3: prisoner too. You know, scary dark things in your home,
Speaker 3: and honestly wouldn't wish that on anybody. So I really
Speaker 3: just want to help. I want to help because I've
Speaker 3: been there. So yeah, it's a candle in the darkness.
Speaker 3: So I got three videos so far. Soon I'm going
Speaker 3: to be teaching on, you know, how to close doors,
Speaker 3: how to do all that kinds of stuff, you know,
Speaker 3: edy boards, and.
Speaker 4: I just say, I don't mess with those.
Speaker 3: Yeah I used to, Yeah, not no more. There's certain
Speaker 3: things now that I'm just like, I'm touching it. It
Speaker 3: took me too long to get that door closed. I
Speaker 3: am not opening up a no more door. I'm not.
Speaker 4: I'm too superstitious to mess with Luigi board.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I did it.
Speaker 2: All.
Speaker 3: I mean, I I get books on Pero, I did
Speaker 3: all that stuff. I mean, it was like it was
Speaker 3: like a competition, like how many dark doors can I open? It?
Speaker 3: You know? And I just I did it just as
Speaker 3: a stupid kid, a teenager and twenty something. And it's
Speaker 3: taken me years to learn how to shut those doors,
Speaker 3: you know. So now I don't feel a lot of
Speaker 3: the stuff I used to feel.
Speaker 4: I was going to ask a question before we wrapped up.
Speaker 4: You mentioned, like the exorcisms, Is that something that you've
Speaker 4: actually done for someone else, because I've talked to a
Speaker 4: few other people that said they've been extorusists, But how
Speaker 4: does one really know? Yeah, if they've cleansed the person
Speaker 4: of what they think is being possessed by them.
Speaker 3: A lot of times when when you do that, there's
Speaker 3: a feeling of freedom when that stuff leaves, a lot
Speaker 3: of time, when the demonic stuff manifests, you'll it's always
Speaker 3: a hateful thing. It's always there's always aggression, anger, hatred,
Speaker 3: you know all this. They will come out really angry.
Speaker 3: And when you start to do deliverance on somebody, you
Speaker 3: start rebuking these things out of them and they leave,
Speaker 3: and a lot of people. These people will like what's
Speaker 3: gross is a lot of times they'll spit, they'll get sick.
Speaker 3: And once they're free, once you get you know, all
Speaker 3: that's done and they're free, it's almost like they're changed.
Speaker 3: They feel lighter, they feel they're not feeling the things
Speaker 3: that they felt before, and a lot of and their
Speaker 3: and their personalities will change too for the better, like
Speaker 3: they there will be at more peace, they'll be you know,
Speaker 3: I I did. We did that on that with that
Speaker 3: little girl. We prayed for her and she said, there's
Speaker 3: something weird going on my stomach. I though I'm want
Speaker 3: to be sick, and so we just kind of loved
Speaker 3: her through it and just kind of, you know, got
Speaker 3: all this and she told us she felt. You feel lighter,
Speaker 3: you feel, you feel unchained, you feel you know you
Speaker 3: feel it, you actually feel it. You can tell and
Speaker 3: there's ways to tell you just there's there's a freedom,
Speaker 3: there's a there's just your sense. You just feel. It's
Speaker 3: like being sick and then getting better. You just feel it.
Speaker 4: You know, I've asked this before, but I'll ask you
Speaker 4: now if anyone is listening. And I don't want to
Speaker 4: put any bad juju out in the ether, but okay,
Speaker 4: or anyone listening, if they believe that they have and
Speaker 4: a demonic attachment or a bad spirit on them or something.
Speaker 4: Uh huh, what do you suggest for them to do?
Speaker 4: How would they how would they know the signs? I
Speaker 4: guess far without how how do they know the signs?
Speaker 3: A lot of times it'll be thoughts that that aren't yours,
Speaker 3: you know, that aren't yours, you know, like certain behaviors
Speaker 3: you know. I mean usually you can tell if there's
Speaker 3: something in you that is dark, if you feel at darkness,
Speaker 3: and a lot of times people around you will notice
Speaker 3: changes in somebody. You can have. There's physical manifestations, there's
Speaker 3: psychological manifestations. Usually what you would do is, you know,
Speaker 3: me personally, when I had something attached to me, I
Speaker 3: went to God and I know, I prayed and prayed.
Speaker 3: You know, I did a lot of deliverance prayers. I
Speaker 3: did a lot of stuff. And I just say, it's
Speaker 3: it's a process. You kind of got a little bit
Speaker 3: by little bit, and I I felt you could feel
Speaker 3: those things leave me when I did that. And you
Speaker 3: would just basically pray and you talk to God and
Speaker 3: you know, you have to renounce whatever you did. Like
Speaker 3: when I renounced the Ouiji boords and the Satanic stuff,
Speaker 3: I just said, you know, I renounced this, and you know,
Speaker 3: please remove this from me. And I don't want it,
Speaker 3: and I you know, reject it, and and you you'll
Speaker 3: physically feel better, you know what I mean. You'll you'll know.
Speaker 3: I don't really explain it, you just know, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean. You just you feel better, You feel lighter,
Speaker 3: you don't feel so bound anymore, and like all start
Speaker 3: to get Yeah, it's like it's like you were carrying
Speaker 3: twenty suitcases and you just got to put them down,
Speaker 3: and you're just like, oh, you know, it's gone. You
Speaker 3: can you can feel it. And I went to I
Speaker 3: did a lot of it on my own, some with
Speaker 3: my mom, but I went and I listened to when
Speaker 3: Worley he has deliverance videos, and I did a lot
Speaker 3: of studying and rust is Dar he does a lot
Speaker 3: of SR Victim deliverance. And it took me a long time,
Speaker 3: but I went through all that and I went from
Speaker 3: being a scared, terrified kid and teenager to now, I
Speaker 3: like if I see something now, which they stopped coming
Speaker 3: around my house, they I don't really see them like
Speaker 3: I used to in my home. So now I might
Speaker 3: be like startled for a second, but then I get
Speaker 3: mad and I go after it. I'm like, no, no,
Speaker 3: you're not no get out, you know, I go. I
Speaker 3: go after it. Now I don't. I don't ignore it anymore.
Speaker 3: I just I go after it. You know, I just
Speaker 3: ain't playing no more. You're not going to torment, you know.
Speaker 3: I'm done. So I did all that. And when you
Speaker 3: learn how to deal with stuff like that, you you
Speaker 3: get more strength. I think you feel stronger and and
Speaker 3: there's just a change. You do feel a change in yourself.
Speaker 3: And it's like going to therapy or something. Just you
Speaker 3: feel a change, you know. Yeah, it's like getting some
Speaker 3: off your chest, you know it Just it feels that way.
Speaker 3: And I don't have a lot of the fears I
Speaker 3: used to Now, yeah they don't. Because I had this
Speaker 3: really bad hallway and I don't know why things like
Speaker 3: being hallways. I have no idea. But there used to
Speaker 3: be a little gross stand in my hallway and I
Speaker 3: ain't seen her in years. Because I do cleanses on
Speaker 3: my home, I do, and I don't feel the presences
Speaker 3: like I used to. I don't know if I just
Speaker 3: learned my authority and God, and now they're afraid to
Speaker 3: come in here. They don't know, but I don't. They're
Speaker 3: not here nowhere, they're not. So I mean I still
Speaker 3: see stuff, but not necessarily in my house, right, So, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's gotten a lot better. So you can't be free
Speaker 3: from it. It just takes a little bit of time.
Speaker 4: That was actually gonna be one of the last questions
Speaker 4: I asked was do you still experience things?
Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of times I do. I do have
Speaker 3: the like the mpath type stuff where you can sense people,
Speaker 3: you know, things about people. I have that. I can
Speaker 3: still see the things. I'm not afraid anymore, though, I
Speaker 3: just look at them like glue palm, you know. I
Speaker 3: just I just I'm not afraid. But a lot of
Speaker 3: the times lately it's been dreams, you know. I'll see
Speaker 3: what's going on, and I'll pray about it, and it
Speaker 3: just it works. I mean, I still see stuff, and
Speaker 3: I still at first I get startled, and then I
Speaker 3: get angry because at first you're like oh, and You're like, oh, no,
Speaker 3: I you know that's you know, because I've seen people,
Speaker 3: I had somebody some dude's eyes, you know, people were
Speaker 3: talking about the black eyes like on TikTok and stuff
Speaker 3: where they see people in there. That happened to me.
Speaker 3: I think it was three years ago, and the guy
Speaker 3: growled at me. And I still see weird stuff, but
Speaker 3: my perception has changed and where I'm no longer afraid
Speaker 3: of it, I kind of face it now, you know,
Speaker 3: I don't have to be afraid of it anymore. So, yeah,
Speaker 3: I do still see stuff. I just haven't seen it
Speaker 3: in my house a whole lot.
Speaker 4: Well that's probably for the best.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So yeah, I think we went to a hotel
Speaker 3: a few months ago and we were staying in another
Speaker 3: state and I saw things in the hallway and stuff
Speaker 3: I saw. I saw a dark shadow in the hallway.
Speaker 3: Now I just kind of look at it. I'm not
Speaker 3: afraid of anymore. I'm like, you know, I'm just kind
Speaker 3: of leave by go, you know, just I'm not afraid
Speaker 3: of it no more. I think, you know, so went
Speaker 3: through all of it. I have strength now. I think
Speaker 3: I'm much better now. And that's what I want to
Speaker 3: help other people do. People that were afraid, I want
Speaker 3: to help them have that strength now.
Speaker 4: No, I completely understand.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wouldn't wish I don't nobody. It's sad, it's scary,
Speaker 3: it's traumatizing, it's you know, it can be very traumatizing.
Speaker 4: So well, Valerie, it has been a pleasure talking with you.
Speaker 4: But before we wrap it up, i'd like for you
Speaker 4: to let everyone know again which your YouTube channels called,
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Speaker 4: link if you send it to me in the show
Speaker 4: notes for anyone listening.
Speaker 3: Okay, it's a candle in the darkness and I'm on
Speaker 3: Rumble too, but mainly YouTube, so yeah, get on the darkness.
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Speaker 4: truth comes at a cost. Are you willing to pay
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