WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.640 --> 00:00:06.519 And I just turned around and I call ass out 2 00:00:06.519 --> 00:00:06.799 of there. 3 00:00:06.919 --> 00:00:09.359 I was done. I wasn't dealing with them. 4 00:00:12.480 --> 00:00:15.240 The hypocrisy of the cult is one of the things 5 00:00:15.439 --> 00:00:17.920 that turned me away the quickest. 6 00:00:21.359 --> 00:00:23.839 When I turned my head lights on, it turned and 7 00:00:23.920 --> 00:00:24.600 looked at us. 8 00:00:25.399 --> 00:00:27.559 And one of the things I remember the most, where 9 00:00:27.559 --> 00:00:33.399 the eyes were glowing red. I see an orb of light. 10 00:00:34.039 --> 00:00:37.560 It is just circling these steps like it is waiting 11 00:00:37.640 --> 00:00:43.960 for me. And he begins to tell them that he 12 00:00:44.280 --> 00:00:45.159 saw UFO. 13 00:00:45.600 --> 00:00:47.359 They're basically like, what are you talking about. 14 00:00:51.000 --> 00:00:53.920 That's seven foot up on a tree, peeking around it, 15 00:00:54.240 --> 00:00:55.359 and that's where I saw. 16 00:00:55.240 --> 00:00:58.000 The top of the muzzle, noose and the eyes. 17 00:00:58.320 --> 00:01:00.520 As soon as I made eye contact with this thing, 18 00:01:00.600 --> 00:01:02.359 I don't like death. 19 00:01:06.159 --> 00:01:09.200 Welcome back to Tinfoil Tells. I'm your host Brandon Tonight. 20 00:01:09.239 --> 00:01:12.000 I am joined by my guest Valerie. Valerie, thanks for 21 00:01:12.040 --> 00:01:13.040 coming out here and talking to me. 22 00:01:14.239 --> 00:01:15.959 Thank you for having me. It's great to be. 23 00:01:15.920 --> 00:01:17.840 Here, not a problem. Would you like to let the 24 00:01:17.879 --> 00:01:19.480 audience know a little bit about yourself. 25 00:01:22.200 --> 00:01:28.120 Yeah, I am. When I was little, I started getting 26 00:01:28.159 --> 00:01:33.200 those psychic type senses, being able to sense things, really 27 00:01:33.280 --> 00:01:37.760 sensitive to spirit world and things like that, and throughout 28 00:01:38.680 --> 00:01:41.719 my life, I started being tormented by these things. I 29 00:01:41.760 --> 00:01:48.200 started seeing them. I started in in situations where I 30 00:01:48.239 --> 00:01:52.959 was just terrified, and then eventually I brought myself out 31 00:01:52.959 --> 00:01:56.840 of it where now I'm not afraid of any of 32 00:01:56.879 --> 00:02:00.719 this stuff anymore, and I just know I want to 33 00:02:00.719 --> 00:02:02.760 be able to help people that are in situations where 34 00:02:02.840 --> 00:02:06.040 they have haunted homes or if they have things tormenting 35 00:02:06.040 --> 00:02:08.680 them in their homes and things. And so that's kind 36 00:02:08.680 --> 00:02:10.960 of what I do now. 37 00:02:13.919 --> 00:02:16.680 How often, I don't know how often? Be like, how 38 00:02:16.680 --> 00:02:20.159 many of people have you actually interacted with here? So 39 00:02:20.319 --> 00:02:21.240 you started doing this. 40 00:02:25.319 --> 00:02:28.800 Maybe about twenty I got about twenty people that I've 41 00:02:28.960 --> 00:02:32.159 you know, helped so far through through mine. No, mine 42 00:02:32.280 --> 00:02:34.159 was basically, you know, purging the stuff out of my 43 00:02:34.159 --> 00:02:38.360 own life, right, and then kind of going from there. 44 00:02:38.719 --> 00:02:40.919 And I did a lot of studying, a lot of 45 00:02:41.000 --> 00:02:44.319 learning about how to go about those types of things. 46 00:02:44.360 --> 00:02:47.840 I how to do home cleansings, how to do deliverance 47 00:02:47.919 --> 00:02:52.120 or exorcism kind of stuff, and how to you know, 48 00:02:53.120 --> 00:02:55.280 just how to do that. I had to learn first, 49 00:02:55.360 --> 00:02:58.400 and then I'm trying to I'd like to be able 50 00:02:58.439 --> 00:03:01.240 to help people, and I help you know, there was 51 00:03:01.280 --> 00:03:05.039 one little girl that I was at a church and 52 00:03:05.120 --> 00:03:07.280 they were having a prayer and I this one little 53 00:03:07.319 --> 00:03:09.680 girl was talking to me and she she was telling 54 00:03:09.719 --> 00:03:12.080 me things that had happened to me when I was little, 55 00:03:13.520 --> 00:03:17.840 and it broke my heart because she was being tormented 56 00:03:18.360 --> 00:03:21.520 by like demonic spirits. They were coming into her room 57 00:03:21.759 --> 00:03:23.919 and they were, you know, touching her like at her 58 00:03:24.039 --> 00:03:26.319 ankles or her feet, you know, playing with her hair, 59 00:03:26.560 --> 00:03:30.360 just messing with her, and she was seeing them and 60 00:03:30.400 --> 00:03:33.560 she was telling me how scared she was, and it 61 00:03:33.639 --> 00:03:36.319 made me cry. And that's what made me want to help, 62 00:03:36.479 --> 00:03:39.919 is because it just broke my heart that children are 63 00:03:39.919 --> 00:03:45.360 being tormented and adults and I just really I have 64 00:03:45.439 --> 00:03:47.759 a heart for that. I want to be able to 65 00:03:48.039 --> 00:03:50.680 let them be happy and free in their own home 66 00:03:50.960 --> 00:03:53.560 without being afraid. They shouldn't have to be afraid. 67 00:03:53.639 --> 00:03:54.960 Right, I agree. 68 00:03:56.120 --> 00:03:59.159 So yeah, that's that's kind of what I want to do. 69 00:03:59.240 --> 00:04:00.719 I want to be able to help people out of 70 00:04:00.719 --> 00:04:03.319 those situations. There's not a lot of places to go 71 00:04:03.360 --> 00:04:06.639 for that. No, you go to a Catholic church and 72 00:04:06.680 --> 00:04:09.680 they want you to jump through hoops, or you go 73 00:04:09.759 --> 00:04:12.439 to a Christian church and sometimes they're like, oh, you're crazy, 74 00:04:12.479 --> 00:04:15.159 you know, or you need medical help or you know, 75 00:04:15.240 --> 00:04:17.720 and I'm just like, no, you know, they're just not 76 00:04:17.839 --> 00:04:18.399 teaching it. 77 00:04:18.720 --> 00:04:24.079 So it's very hard to get taken seriously when it 78 00:04:24.079 --> 00:04:25.279 comes with some of these topics. 79 00:04:26.879 --> 00:04:32.160 Yeah, and it is. And at first I thought I 80 00:04:32.199 --> 00:04:34.519 was like, am I just you know, am I have 81 00:04:34.600 --> 00:04:36.920 I lost my mind? Am I just seeing something real? 82 00:04:37.240 --> 00:04:41.879 But then things started happening with other people and they 83 00:04:41.879 --> 00:04:47.120 were experiencing the same things I was experiencing. So I'm like, no, no, no, 84 00:04:47.199 --> 00:04:50.480 that is on. It's you know, this is a thing. 85 00:04:51.480 --> 00:04:55.839 So a lot of people have experiences I think that 86 00:04:56.120 --> 00:04:57.279 just kind of ignore it. 87 00:04:58.399 --> 00:05:01.920 They Yeah, I did that for a while. I tried. 88 00:05:02.839 --> 00:05:05.319 It's easier for some people just to not admit that 89 00:05:05.360 --> 00:05:08.800 there's something going on rather than actually coming to terms 90 00:05:08.800 --> 00:05:12.160 when something could be going on, because then when you 91 00:05:12.439 --> 00:05:14.959 open that door, you have to start thinking about a 92 00:05:14.959 --> 00:05:16.920 bunch of other things. That's how I used to be, 93 00:05:17.720 --> 00:05:20.160 but anymore, I just kind of embraced it at this point, like, no, 94 00:05:20.199 --> 00:05:21.600 there's weird crap going on. 95 00:05:22.800 --> 00:05:25.480 Yeah, I mean sometimes you can't. And I like, I've 96 00:05:25.519 --> 00:05:28.879 had things fly off my walls just out of the blue. 97 00:05:29.920 --> 00:05:33.199 So there's something You're like, there's no way that thing 98 00:05:33.360 --> 00:05:36.680 just lifted up the wall and flew across the room, right, 99 00:05:36.839 --> 00:05:39.639 that has happened to me? So and you try to 100 00:05:39.759 --> 00:05:43.199 find like, you know, trying to find an answer to, 101 00:05:43.279 --> 00:05:49.240 you know, a rational answer, but sometimes there just isn't one. 102 00:05:49.759 --> 00:05:53.560 So as much as I try and explain things off, 103 00:05:53.600 --> 00:05:55.959 you get left in a situation where you can't explain it. 104 00:05:56.000 --> 00:05:58.199 And the only thing that left is to the unexplainable. 105 00:05:58.639 --> 00:05:59.279 So then you have. 106 00:05:59.240 --> 00:06:02.879 To exactly what it is. And a lot of people 107 00:06:02.879 --> 00:06:04.800 they just don't know how to handle that. They're like, Okay, 108 00:06:04.800 --> 00:06:07.000 well what do I do, right? You know? Do I 109 00:06:07.079 --> 00:06:10.399 move or do I go talk to somebody? Or do 110 00:06:10.480 --> 00:06:15.240 I just sit here and just indore? You know? And 111 00:06:15.279 --> 00:06:18.360 I just I want to help give people another option. 112 00:06:18.480 --> 00:06:23.279 I guess that's very very noble of you. 113 00:06:25.079 --> 00:06:28.519 Thank you. I just I just know what that trauma 114 00:06:28.600 --> 00:06:32.240 is like. So I just I don't I wouldn't watch 115 00:06:32.279 --> 00:06:33.000 that on anybody. 116 00:06:34.160 --> 00:06:36.560 Well, if you would like to begin from the beginning, 117 00:06:37.279 --> 00:06:38.000 you can go right. 118 00:06:37.839 --> 00:06:45.800 Ahead, okay, okay, okay. At the beginning, these these senses 119 00:06:45.839 --> 00:06:49.439 and things, they kind of grew within time. At the beginning, 120 00:06:49.600 --> 00:06:51.759 it was just a sense, you know, like, oh, I 121 00:06:51.800 --> 00:06:53.759 sent something over there, and I didn't really pay attention 122 00:06:53.800 --> 00:06:55.720 to it because I thought everybody was kind of like 123 00:06:55.800 --> 00:06:58.360 that sounds like a kid, you know. I was just 124 00:06:58.360 --> 00:07:01.720 this little five six year old kid. And then I 125 00:07:01.759 --> 00:07:06.079 started having I don't know if I know, on these 126 00:07:06.120 --> 00:07:09.120 types of shows with the supernatural or the cryptid type 127 00:07:09.160 --> 00:07:12.639 stuff where they talked about mediums who have those snapshots 128 00:07:12.720 --> 00:07:16.040 in their head where they see a picture and then 129 00:07:16.079 --> 00:07:18.560 it goes and it's like one of those psychic medium 130 00:07:18.600 --> 00:07:23.279 type things. That started happening to me. And then the 131 00:07:23.319 --> 00:07:25.240 big thing that happened that kind of kicked it all 132 00:07:25.279 --> 00:07:30.040 off was when I was seven years old, my great 133 00:07:30.040 --> 00:07:35.879 grandpa died and he was Native American, and when he 134 00:07:35.959 --> 00:07:39.639 passed away, my mom and dad went to the funeral, 135 00:07:39.959 --> 00:07:45.120 and when she came home, I remember hearing her talking 136 00:07:45.519 --> 00:07:48.079 with my grandparents, you know, my other grandparents out in 137 00:07:48.079 --> 00:07:51.639 the living room, and I started getting this feeling that 138 00:07:51.639 --> 00:07:54.000 there because I always had that feeling that something was there, 139 00:07:55.319 --> 00:07:57.360 you know, I always had that sense of something hovering 140 00:07:57.439 --> 00:08:00.399 over you or just like a presence. So this got 141 00:08:00.439 --> 00:08:02.800 to where it was really, really, really bad, and I 142 00:08:02.839 --> 00:08:06.279 got so freaked out, and I was really really scared 143 00:08:06.319 --> 00:08:09.560 and I didn't know why. And then I remember I 144 00:08:09.600 --> 00:08:12.439 was playing with one of those little Fisher Price record 145 00:08:12.439 --> 00:08:15.360 players that had little squiggly plastics. I just remember that 146 00:08:15.480 --> 00:08:19.680 very vividly. But I looked up and in my mirror 147 00:08:19.920 --> 00:08:26.680 was this old woman and her eyes were completely white, 148 00:08:26.800 --> 00:08:29.600 and I just sat there frozen for a second, and 149 00:08:30.000 --> 00:08:32.320 she started like it was like she starts smiling or 150 00:08:32.320 --> 00:08:34.000 she started it was like her teeth and I could 151 00:08:34.000 --> 00:08:37.759 see her teeth and they were like all nasty and 152 00:08:37.960 --> 00:08:42.159 you know, and I just screamed. And from that day 153 00:08:42.200 --> 00:08:46.360 on is when I started seeing actual things that weren't 154 00:08:46.600 --> 00:08:50.399 pictures or visions or whatever, you know, the psychic vision 155 00:08:50.440 --> 00:08:56.399 type things. I don't know if it kind of attached 156 00:08:56.399 --> 00:09:00.799 to me through litle bloodline thing, because happened right after 157 00:09:00.879 --> 00:09:04.840 he passed away, and I don't know if it was 158 00:09:04.840 --> 00:09:07.879 something that moved from him to me. I don't know, 159 00:09:08.759 --> 00:09:11.759 because I know families a lot of times have those 160 00:09:11.799 --> 00:09:14.399 types of you know, the daughter, the next daughter and 161 00:09:14.480 --> 00:09:17.840 the grandkid. You know, sometimes those abilities are passed down. Yeah, 162 00:09:18.679 --> 00:09:23.440 I've heard stuff, so yeah, and so I didn't know 163 00:09:23.519 --> 00:09:26.200 but that that thing attached to me. I eventually got 164 00:09:26.200 --> 00:09:28.519 it to leave it. It took me over over forty years 165 00:09:28.559 --> 00:09:32.200 to deal with it. But and then I had another 166 00:09:32.240 --> 00:09:36.080 situation where, you know, I would see things all the time. 167 00:09:36.200 --> 00:09:37.720 A lot of times you were there's a little shadow 168 00:09:37.720 --> 00:09:41.279 people that you see in periphal vision. I would see 169 00:09:41.320 --> 00:09:44.399 those all the time, and I would try to sleep 170 00:09:44.480 --> 00:09:46.879 on my parents' floor because I was so freaked out 171 00:09:46.879 --> 00:09:49.600 because I was I was only seven eight years old, 172 00:09:50.080 --> 00:09:52.720 and these things were running outside of my hallway. I 173 00:09:52.720 --> 00:09:56.080 would see them pass my doorway and they were just 174 00:09:56.080 --> 00:09:59.519 those little tiny shadow figures. I now, I call him 175 00:09:59.519 --> 00:10:00.159 house deep. 176 00:10:00.080 --> 00:10:00.759 Inside, don't know. 177 00:10:00.960 --> 00:10:03.879 It's just like they're just like these little four foot 178 00:10:03.919 --> 00:10:08.720 tall things, you know, They're just shadows, no features, no nothing, 179 00:10:08.840 --> 00:10:11.080 just shadows. And I would see them run across my 180 00:10:11.120 --> 00:10:14.120 door and I would just I'd be terrified. I'd be 181 00:10:14.200 --> 00:10:17.559 laying there just frozen as a little kid. And then 182 00:10:18.720 --> 00:10:24.559 after a while, Uh, we moved to another house. And 183 00:10:24.679 --> 00:10:27.519 this I found really funny was we had these stairs. 184 00:10:27.919 --> 00:10:29.679 When you would open the door the front door, there 185 00:10:29.679 --> 00:10:31.720 were stairs that went up and the stairs that went down, 186 00:10:32.960 --> 00:10:34.759 and if you went up, there was a walk through 187 00:10:34.759 --> 00:10:38.720 the kitchen well and it was straight up through the stairs. 188 00:10:39.440 --> 00:10:42.960 So when you would go down these stairs, you always 189 00:10:42.960 --> 00:10:44.919 had that feeling. You know people talk about when you 190 00:10:44.960 --> 00:10:46.879 turn the light off when you're going up, scares you felick, 191 00:10:46.919 --> 00:10:49.639 something's chasing you. That's how it was when you would 192 00:10:49.679 --> 00:10:53.279 go down the stairs. And I always just freaked out 193 00:10:53.279 --> 00:10:54.960 about that. So one day I thought, you know, I 194 00:10:55.000 --> 00:10:56.960 was gonna get some balls, and I was going to 195 00:10:57.039 --> 00:10:58.600 walk down the stairs. I was going to turn around 196 00:10:58.600 --> 00:11:03.000 and see who it was. And what I saw a 197 00:11:03.120 --> 00:11:05.960 note to you. Right on out of there. I saw 198 00:11:06.360 --> 00:11:08.519 I was standing on the on the like third or 199 00:11:08.519 --> 00:11:11.960 fourth stair, and I looked up in this really tall, 200 00:11:12.759 --> 00:11:17.720 pale white woman with really black dark hair came flying 201 00:11:17.919 --> 00:11:22.559 towards me, and she was just like running full force, 202 00:11:22.919 --> 00:11:25.799 running towards me. So I took off and went down 203 00:11:25.799 --> 00:11:29.480 the stairs. And the thing that makes you know that 204 00:11:29.600 --> 00:11:33.159 weird because my mom had seen it, and then my 205 00:11:33.360 --> 00:11:37.080 aunt she didn't believe in the supernatural stuff. She doesn't 206 00:11:37.080 --> 00:11:40.039 believe in any of that. And the hat that house, 207 00:11:40.080 --> 00:11:45.120 we were renting it from her friend's parents, and she 208 00:11:45.279 --> 00:11:47.759 said that. One day she was talking to me, She's like, 209 00:11:47.960 --> 00:11:49.679 you remember living there. I was like, yeah. She's like, 210 00:11:49.759 --> 00:11:54.080 remember them stairs. I said yeah, and she goes, every 211 00:11:54.080 --> 00:11:56.759 time we ran down them stairs, she goes, you always 212 00:11:56.759 --> 00:11:59.720 felt like you had to run. She goes, her friend 213 00:11:59.759 --> 00:12:02.039 had ran down the stairs. She's like one time, she's like, 214 00:12:02.159 --> 00:12:04.320 you know, her friend had sprained her ankle. She was 215 00:12:04.360 --> 00:12:07.320 running so fast and fell and I was sitting there like, 216 00:12:08.399 --> 00:12:13.759 no way. I was like, I can confirmation, you know so. 217 00:12:14.200 --> 00:12:16.080 And she didn't believe in any of that. So those 218 00:12:16.159 --> 00:12:18.039 kind of things would happen to me all the time. 219 00:12:21.720 --> 00:12:25.440 Things would fly out the closet randomly. At my friend's house. 220 00:12:25.559 --> 00:12:28.960 We would sit there and she saw things too, and 221 00:12:29.080 --> 00:12:31.960 we ended up making because we were just dabbling and 222 00:12:32.039 --> 00:12:33.919 a lot of dark stuff when we got older, and 223 00:12:35.000 --> 00:12:37.159 she had this little doll. It was a clown and 224 00:12:37.200 --> 00:12:41.279 I hate clowns. They're terrifying. But she had this little 225 00:12:41.279 --> 00:12:44.120 clown doll and she would put it in her closet, 226 00:12:44.120 --> 00:12:45.879 in the very back of her closet, and we would 227 00:12:45.879 --> 00:12:47.320 back up and sit on the bed and that thing 228 00:12:47.360 --> 00:12:50.679 would fly out of her closet and land on the floor. 229 00:12:51.600 --> 00:12:54.519 And we were stupid kids, teenagers, like we made it 230 00:12:54.519 --> 00:12:56.559 a game, like we would go up and put the 231 00:12:56.559 --> 00:12:58.320 the clown back in. We'd get a timer and sit 232 00:12:58.320 --> 00:12:59.600 there and wait and see how long it took the 233 00:12:59.639 --> 00:13:03.240 fly out. I mean it would happen regularly all the time. 234 00:13:04.039 --> 00:13:07.559 So it seemed like everywhere I went there was weird stuff. 235 00:13:07.559 --> 00:13:11.399 There was something you would see something or something would happen. 236 00:13:12.840 --> 00:13:16.159 So did you feel like it was because of you 237 00:13:16.200 --> 00:13:20.279 bringing that energy like you. 238 00:13:18.120 --> 00:13:22.320 Were no, because we would do Wiji boards and stuff. 239 00:13:22.320 --> 00:13:26.519 I opened so many doorways, Yeah, I opened so many. 240 00:13:26.559 --> 00:13:29.080 I was just like glutton for a punishment. It was like, oh, 241 00:13:29.240 --> 00:13:31.519 you know, it's like I was craving it, you know 242 00:13:31.559 --> 00:13:33.639 what I mean, like, Oh I need the adrenaline rush, 243 00:13:33.639 --> 00:13:35.519 Oh I need the you know. I would just do that. 244 00:13:36.679 --> 00:13:40.000 And it seems like when I would enter the room, 245 00:13:40.519 --> 00:13:42.639 I think things were attached to me because I would 246 00:13:42.679 --> 00:13:44.960 en an the room and the candles will go out 247 00:13:45.200 --> 00:13:47.399 or you know, just something weird. When it was always 248 00:13:47.440 --> 00:13:52.840 something weird, and it just it just was ongoing, you know, 249 00:13:52.960 --> 00:13:56.879 all the time. It's always something really weird. Then I 250 00:13:56.919 --> 00:14:03.159 started hearing things like voices, like I would hear somebody 251 00:14:03.200 --> 00:14:05.600 say something to me and I'm you know, it would 252 00:14:05.600 --> 00:14:09.480 be weird. Like you know, some years back. I heard him. 253 00:14:09.799 --> 00:14:12.440 Me and my husband are watching me a fight, and 254 00:14:13.679 --> 00:14:18.039 something said that guy's gonna win. About half an hour later, 255 00:14:18.080 --> 00:14:21.840 that guy wins the fight. And it was like a 256 00:14:22.120 --> 00:14:24.320 kind of like a telekinetic kind of thing, like a 257 00:14:24.440 --> 00:14:27.559 familiar spirit type of thing. It was almost like I 258 00:14:27.600 --> 00:14:31.039 could hear it, and I would hear things like, you know, 259 00:14:32.000 --> 00:14:34.639 just random stuff like that girl's going to turn left, 260 00:14:34.679 --> 00:14:36.000 you go right and I go right, and I gir, 261 00:14:36.320 --> 00:14:39.639 I'm just like okay, I mean, just weird stuff. And 262 00:14:40.559 --> 00:14:43.279 I didn't. I didn't get it. You know. It was 263 00:14:44.200 --> 00:14:47.320 I would I would sense things about people, you know, 264 00:14:47.320 --> 00:14:49.960 I'd be able to tell them stuff. And so it 265 00:14:50.039 --> 00:14:54.960 got to be where, you know, I was born with 266 00:14:55.000 --> 00:14:58.120 psychic medium gifts, but I think they're supposed to be 267 00:14:59.559 --> 00:15:06.720 used for God in darkness. And as soon as I 268 00:15:06.720 --> 00:15:10.120 started using them for God instead, I lost all fear 269 00:15:11.720 --> 00:15:17.039 of these start things. I was no longer afraid. But 270 00:15:17.080 --> 00:15:22.639 it took a while because I mean when I when 271 00:15:22.720 --> 00:15:25.480 I when I started going back into the church and stuff, 272 00:15:25.919 --> 00:15:30.120 my church ain't like it's a Pentecostal charismatic so it's 273 00:15:30.120 --> 00:15:34.000 just like wow, crazy every time, you know, And I 274 00:15:34.080 --> 00:15:36.080 ended up quitting going to church and just doing my 275 00:15:36.120 --> 00:15:40.480 own thing because there was a lot of religious spirit 276 00:15:40.559 --> 00:15:43.639 type things there I guess, you know, like very judgmental, 277 00:15:43.799 --> 00:15:46.279 very you know, the thing that they say about Christians. 278 00:15:46.919 --> 00:15:49.039 I didn't like that, and I didn't believe that was 279 00:15:49.080 --> 00:15:53.759 the character of God either, So I quit going to church. 280 00:15:53.840 --> 00:15:57.200 But I do a lot of my mom's pastor, so 281 00:15:57.240 --> 00:16:00.679 I get enough of that from her. So so yeah, 282 00:16:00.720 --> 00:16:03.840 but I ended up being able to kind of conquer 283 00:16:04.080 --> 00:16:05.799 all the fear and all that, you know. I mean, 284 00:16:06.840 --> 00:16:12.799 I had another thing that when I was little, I 285 00:16:12.840 --> 00:16:16.440 think I was maybe nine or ten. I was in 286 00:16:16.440 --> 00:16:19.919 my room and I was in bed, and I was 287 00:16:19.960 --> 00:16:23.279 going to go to sleep, and I got to where 288 00:16:23.399 --> 00:16:27.320 like I always wanted the light on. I didn't want 289 00:16:27.360 --> 00:16:29.360 to turn the light off because I felt safer with 290 00:16:29.399 --> 00:16:30.720 the light on. It was like I wanted to be 291 00:16:30.759 --> 00:16:33.279 able to see my surroundings. And it wasn't because I 292 00:16:33.320 --> 00:16:35.360 was afraid of the dark. It's because I was afraid 293 00:16:35.360 --> 00:16:38.679 of what I saw in the dark. So I'm laying 294 00:16:38.759 --> 00:16:42.240 there and this seven foot tall looking it was like 295 00:16:42.360 --> 00:16:45.559 six to seven foot tall thing comes walking in my 296 00:16:45.639 --> 00:16:47.720 room and I started thinking to look like the grim reaper. 297 00:16:48.200 --> 00:16:51.840 Reaper is like in a long cloak, and it had 298 00:16:51.879 --> 00:16:56.240 no facial features. It walked in my room, it bent 299 00:16:56.360 --> 00:16:59.879 down and it stared at me, and I was just 300 00:17:00.159 --> 00:17:03.039 frozen in my bed. I thought, do not breathe, do 301 00:17:03.200 --> 00:17:05.519 not move, do not you know, I didn't know what 302 00:17:05.559 --> 00:17:08.599 was going to happen. And when I started praying in 303 00:17:08.680 --> 00:17:11.200 my head because I grew up in a Christian home, 304 00:17:11.319 --> 00:17:14.039 so I started praying in my head and it turned 305 00:17:14.039 --> 00:17:16.880 around and it walked out of my room. And then 306 00:17:16.920 --> 00:17:20.440 my dad. About ten years later, my dad was telling 307 00:17:20.480 --> 00:17:22.240 me a story about something that happened to him, and 308 00:17:22.279 --> 00:17:26.519 it was the exact same thing. Something in a grim, 309 00:17:26.559 --> 00:17:30.440 reaper looking cloak walked in his room, bent down and 310 00:17:30.480 --> 00:17:33.960 looked at him, and then walked out. So it was 311 00:17:34.000 --> 00:17:35.799 the same thing with both of us. 312 00:17:36.519 --> 00:17:40.960 It's strange to me though, if the house was you 313 00:17:41.000 --> 00:17:45.240 would think if your mom's a pastor a preacher in 314 00:17:45.319 --> 00:17:47.640 the house. Yeah, with Christian and everything, you think something 315 00:17:47.680 --> 00:17:49.160 like that wouldn't be welcome to come in there in 316 00:17:49.200 --> 00:17:49.880 the first place. 317 00:17:51.079 --> 00:17:55.000 Yeah, it wasn't. But the thing is, when I was 318 00:17:55.079 --> 00:18:00.799 dabbling with stuff, they attached to me. So when I 319 00:18:00.839 --> 00:18:04.559 would come home, you see my mom, My mom. It 320 00:18:04.640 --> 00:18:07.319 was funny. She was one of those Pentecosts. She's annoyting 321 00:18:07.319 --> 00:18:09.759 house of oil, and she's you know, you know, so 322 00:18:09.839 --> 00:18:11.480 it was kind of like attached to me. And then 323 00:18:11.519 --> 00:18:13.279 when I would go into the house, it was like 324 00:18:13.480 --> 00:18:15.319 it gave it a right because it was with me. 325 00:18:15.400 --> 00:18:18.000 But then my mom was all mad, you know so, 326 00:18:18.839 --> 00:18:21.519 and things only happened around me. They didn't really happen 327 00:18:21.559 --> 00:18:24.880 around everybody else. It was just me. And then you'd 328 00:18:24.920 --> 00:18:28.480 hear my mom praying stuff out of the house and 329 00:18:28.480 --> 00:18:31.440 and it's just because I opened all them them doorways 330 00:18:31.960 --> 00:18:34.640 and and it just it wasn't good. 331 00:18:34.920 --> 00:18:40.079 So from my from my personal experiences, I grew up 332 00:18:40.119 --> 00:18:44.200 in Pentecostal too, but they were not over the top 333 00:18:44.240 --> 00:18:45.960 in the since like I've seen some of them are. 334 00:18:46.599 --> 00:18:49.319 Like this was pretty much is like what I would 335 00:18:49.319 --> 00:18:52.200 consider normal, except for they spoken tongues and I always 336 00:18:52.240 --> 00:18:54.079 thought that was kind of strange, even. 337 00:18:54.000 --> 00:18:54.799 The little kids. 338 00:18:55.200 --> 00:18:58.839 Yeah, but yeah, they did the same things though with 339 00:18:58.920 --> 00:19:00.960 like with the oils and everything else too. 340 00:19:02.960 --> 00:19:06.519 Yeah. We there was also what people would call extracisms, 341 00:19:06.559 --> 00:19:10.200 but we call them deliverance. Like there was fun Sunday. 342 00:19:10.240 --> 00:19:14.240 I remember, I was like thirteen, and right in the 343 00:19:14.279 --> 00:19:16.519 middle of Sunday service, this guy gets up and he 344 00:19:16.640 --> 00:19:20.359 just starts screaming. But the creepy thing is it was 345 00:19:20.400 --> 00:19:25.079 not his voice. It sounded like five six voices all 346 00:19:25.119 --> 00:19:27.799 in one voice. It was the creepiest sound I ever 347 00:19:27.839 --> 00:19:31.559 heard in my life. And he slams into the wall 348 00:19:31.559 --> 00:19:34.640 and he's screaming, and guy starts growling, and they take 349 00:19:34.680 --> 00:19:37.599 him out in the hallway, I remember, and this dude's 350 00:19:37.640 --> 00:19:40.279 spitting in there and is nasty. And I was just 351 00:19:40.440 --> 00:19:42.799 watching because I just I wanted to see what was happening. 352 00:19:42.839 --> 00:19:46.920 And I was just a teenager, and it did scare 353 00:19:46.960 --> 00:19:49.400 me because they had this guy pinned on the floor 354 00:19:49.680 --> 00:19:53.720 and they had this big table. It was like it 355 00:19:53.799 --> 00:19:55.200 was like one of those tables in some of them 356 00:19:55.240 --> 00:19:57.880 old churches with like hundreds and hundreds of pounds. You know. 357 00:19:58.039 --> 00:19:59.960 It took like six guys to lift this thing up. 358 00:20:00.640 --> 00:20:03.039 This guy was on his stomach and grabbed one leg 359 00:20:03.079 --> 00:20:06.519 of the table during this and lifted the table. I 360 00:20:06.519 --> 00:20:10.319 was like, oh, nah, nah, you know, it's like I'm going, 361 00:20:10.400 --> 00:20:14.480 I'm out. You could hear him. He was screaming and 362 00:20:14.519 --> 00:20:17.200 cussing and yelling, and when he came back, he was 363 00:20:17.279 --> 00:20:22.400 completely normal. All the guys came. I mean, it was 364 00:20:22.680 --> 00:20:24.720 wild stuff what happened at our church. But to me, 365 00:20:24.799 --> 00:20:27.440 I was like, oh, just another Sunday, you know, I 366 00:20:27.640 --> 00:20:30.559 just just kind of I got used to it. But 367 00:20:30.920 --> 00:20:34.759 I quit going and because of a lot of that 368 00:20:35.640 --> 00:20:38.680 judgment type stuff because I didn't believe that was right. 369 00:20:38.880 --> 00:20:42.240 So I have my own views on That's part. 370 00:20:42.039 --> 00:20:44.839 Of the reason why I don't go myself. So I 371 00:20:44.880 --> 00:20:48.519 don't follow anyone for feeling that way. And I get 372 00:20:48.599 --> 00:20:51.880 lectured a lot about you don't go to church because 373 00:20:51.880 --> 00:20:54.240 of the people. You go because of a relationship with God. 374 00:20:54.279 --> 00:20:57.119 But I am of the mindset of you don't have 375 00:20:57.200 --> 00:20:59.440 to go to a church to have a relationship with God. 376 00:21:00.519 --> 00:21:05.880 I agree, I totally agree. I don't think. I don't 377 00:21:05.880 --> 00:21:07.359 think you have to go. I think it's it's what's 378 00:21:07.400 --> 00:21:09.200 in your heart, you know what I mean. I think 379 00:21:09.799 --> 00:21:12.079 you've got a relationship with God. I don't believe God's 380 00:21:12.079 --> 00:21:13.920 in a building, you know, I don't. 381 00:21:15.559 --> 00:21:17.720 So, yeah, I don't think God's in the building in 382 00:21:17.759 --> 00:21:20.119 the sense that they requires you to come there every 383 00:21:20.200 --> 00:21:22.960 day to worship him or not every of it. Every Sunday. 384 00:21:23.000 --> 00:21:25.279 I don't think God wants to ties in your offerings. 385 00:21:25.279 --> 00:21:27.000 I don't think you buy your way into heaven by 386 00:21:27.359 --> 00:21:31.880 offering up money. Oh No, commercial wise, organized religion is 387 00:21:31.920 --> 00:21:34.200 where I frown upon things, and if that route people 388 00:21:34.200 --> 00:21:35.839 the wrong way, it's fine. But I have my own 389 00:21:35.920 --> 00:21:37.559 beliefs and that's just how it is. 390 00:21:38.920 --> 00:21:43.319 Yeah, that's a that's how I feel too, I am. 391 00:21:43.440 --> 00:21:48.640 I think my relationship with God is just private to me. 392 00:21:48.720 --> 00:21:52.720 I don't really I don't go to a church. My 393 00:21:52.759 --> 00:21:55.599 mom has a small church, but I don't go because 394 00:21:56.640 --> 00:22:00.839 being the pastor's daughter kind of sucks sometimes, right, because 395 00:22:00.880 --> 00:22:04.680 everyone's looking at you and whatever you do reflects on her. 396 00:22:06.400 --> 00:22:11.319 So I just I don't like that position. So that's 397 00:22:11.359 --> 00:22:13.480 one of the reasons I don't put our church that much. 398 00:22:13.519 --> 00:22:19.039 But I didn't like, you know, like control aspects, you know, 399 00:22:19.759 --> 00:22:21.359 smack you on a hands with a ruler, like you 400 00:22:21.440 --> 00:22:23.079 got to be this way, you got to I don't 401 00:22:23.079 --> 00:22:27.079