Speaker 1: Get ready.
Speaker 2: October eighteen, twenty twenty four. Allegedly, according to that thing
Speaker 2: we call a calendar, this the Ocelli effect, you hearing us.
Speaker 2: If you're hearing us just after eight pm Eastern, it's
Speaker 2: about six minutes past the hour of eight pm Eastern
Speaker 2: here in the United States on that date, eighteenth of October,
Speaker 2: then guess what, you're hearing us live. But otherwise you're
Speaker 2: here in the recording, so whatever, you can't call us
Speaker 2: if you're hearing the recording, true enough, But if you
Speaker 2: are hearing us live, you can join and become part
Speaker 2: of the show. Now. This week I didn't do any
Speaker 2: live broadcasts because I was having trouble controlling my guts.
Speaker 2: I was thrown up every single day and it took
Speaker 2: me a little while to get my hands on some
Speaker 2: medicine to put a stop to it. And thankfully tonight,
Speaker 2: even if I have trouble tonight, I have a colost
Speaker 2: with me, so I can always go, look, I'm going
Speaker 2: off Mike for a few minutes, and I can throw
Speaker 2: up and come back. But I don't like trying to
Speaker 2: do that. And I was gonna have Robert Groden on
Speaker 2: this week on video, and we can't be thrown up
Speaker 2: on video. So next week I'm going to try and
Speaker 2: get Robert Groden on. Larry Hancock had to be canceled
Speaker 2: this week. I'm going to try and book him for
Speaker 2: this coming week and we'll see if we can't get
Speaker 2: Larry Hancock, Robert Croden, and maybe some others that were
Speaker 2: put aside this week. Although I had a cancelation from
Speaker 2: another guest, which it took me about a year to
Speaker 2: book anyway, and then he canceled of me at last minute,
Speaker 2: and I kind of saw that as a good sign
Speaker 2: because on Tuesday I was already feeling terrible and had
Speaker 2: just thrown up and then got the cancelation noticed about
Speaker 2: ten minutes before airtime. Anyway, so I said, you know what,
Speaker 2: maybe it's a good day to rest. But here on
Speaker 2: a Friday, Friar's Day, we're alive and I'm keeping most
Speaker 2: things a running. Anyway. We're just about a month away
Speaker 2: from the conference in Dallas, and I'm gonna be talking
Speaker 2: about that a bit leading up to it. So in
Speaker 2: the last month you're gonna hear from some people, like
Speaker 2: I said, Robert Grodin, We're gonna talk about the Zuppruter film.
Speaker 2: I want you guys to have your questions ready for
Speaker 2: him for this coming Wednesday, which I didn't even get
Speaker 2: to warn anybody about this week, but I kind of
Speaker 2: had a feeling it was gonna get canceled anyway, and
Speaker 2: I wasn't entirely sure that he was going to be
Speaker 2: ready at the right time and all that. So that's
Speaker 2: the update on the show as it stands. But I
Speaker 2: do want to thank you guys who have decided to
Speaker 2: kick in and help out any which way you can.
Speaker 2: A few people did, and thankfully somebody did in order
Speaker 2: for me to get some nausea medicine, because you know,
Speaker 2: I didn't throw up today, okay at all, but in
Speaker 2: case I have to, I have my co host be
Speaker 2: Pete with me and it's all good, hey, And you
Speaker 2: guys can fill up some of this time tonight because
Speaker 2: I don't want to talk. I'm sick of it. Tell
Speaker 2: you this, Mike Swanson, I wanted to have him on
Speaker 2: this week too. He canceled on me because he doesn't
Speaker 2: want to talk to anybody. He's completely fed up with
Speaker 2: the Internet. According to the emails he's sending me, he's
Speaker 2: fed up with the way people are reacting. What it is.
Speaker 2: People give a crap about how they're not reacting to
Speaker 2: a single thing that seems to matter. It doesn't matter
Speaker 2: if it's in the financial you know, areas of information,
Speaker 2: or if it's in news. It's like nobody cares about
Speaker 2: a damn thing except guess what, Kamala versus Trump, that
Speaker 2: and the culture wars. Other than that, nobody gives a
Speaker 2: crap about what you're saying, what you're doing, what you
Speaker 2: can teach them, what you can demonstrate, what you can
Speaker 2: present to them, any good information, good books, good stuff
Speaker 2: out there, new films, there's new films being released. Nobody cares.
Speaker 2: Podcasters suck at this point because all they're doing is
Speaker 2: engaging in the culture wars and feeding their ready made
Speaker 2: audiences with the prescribed crap that they know they want.
Speaker 2: So it's all endless, it's all nonsense. A lot of
Speaker 2: people are canceling their websites, just going, you know what,
Speaker 2: there's no purpose to this anymore unless I'm selling garbage
Speaker 2: to people. They don't want it. They don't want information,
Speaker 2: they don't want actual content that means something. Sure, there's
Speaker 2: plenty of fan sites functioning. There's plenty of things on
Speaker 2: YouTube doing well channels that you don't want to talk about,
Speaker 2: toys or you know, your favorite TV show, I guess.
Speaker 2: But other than that, nobody cares. And when it comes
Speaker 2: to actual intense engagement, if you're not talking Kamala versus
Speaker 2: Trump or Trump versus Kamala, and if you're not talking
Speaker 2: culture wars one way or another, whether it's relevant or not,
Speaker 2: whether the news stories are true, whether it doesn't matter,
Speaker 2: then nobody cares. And I got to tell you, I'm
Speaker 2: feeling that same depression that Mike's feeling, where you just say.
Speaker 2: He's like, look, I don't even want to talk to
Speaker 2: people online. I don't even want to come on your
Speaker 2: show and talk to people. That's what he said to
Speaker 2: me this week in an email. And I said, look,
Speaker 2: I don't blame you. You know, obviously I want Mike
Speaker 2: on the show. I love talking to him. I could
Speaker 2: talk to him about anything. You know, you don't want
Speaker 2: to talk about the financial stuff. You don't want to
Speaker 2: talk about the stock market to cool. You don't want
Speaker 2: to talk about bitcoin and crypto and where that's going,
Speaker 2: no problem. You want to talk about, you know, a
Speaker 2: TV show you just caught you want to talk about
Speaker 2: a documentary you saw, You want to talk about some
Speaker 2: old films you discovered, you want to talk about some
Speaker 2: research you're doing. Whatever you want, Mike come on and talk,
Speaker 2: and he just doesn't want to because no one cares.
Speaker 2: We also had the interesting announcement in the past week
Speaker 2: from Jefferson Morley about the JFK case. It was supposed
Speaker 2: to be a blockbuster thing. Was it a big deal?
Speaker 2: Well not in my estimation, And we talked about that
Speaker 2: with Joe last week. But hey, whatever, it just seems
Speaker 2: like everything is stagnating until we get through this mess
Speaker 2: at the beginning of November, right everybody's waiting on those results. Anyway,
Speaker 2: I'm not doing that. You can join us, and I'm
Speaker 2: gonna do some other stuff next week. We're gonna have
Speaker 2: more than Groden and Hancock and you know who knows.
Speaker 2: Maybe I'll convince Mike to come on and yell at
Speaker 2: people for a minute. I want him to come on
Speaker 2: and get angry. I want him to get angry. He's
Speaker 2: frustrated with people. I want him to come on and
Speaker 2: say it. He's too nice to a guy anyway. Maybe
Speaker 2: I'll dig up Carmine. He's always good for a rant
Speaker 2: of frustration, a little bit of anger. I could contact
Speaker 2: him and bring him on. I can contact a couple
Speaker 2: other people that might be angry and might want to talk.
Speaker 2: But a lot of people are just feeling disenchanted with
Speaker 2: even talking to Guess what you you people that are
Speaker 2: only reacting to nonsense. You don't seem to care about
Speaker 2: anything that seems to matter to anybody except what the selection?
Speaker 2: You think that's you think either way that rolls. I mean,
Speaker 2: I know there's people out there and say this is
Speaker 2: the most monumental, biggest change thing that's gonna happen. You know,
Speaker 2: there's some people out there like democracy's dead if Trump wins.
Speaker 2: And then there's other people that say, you're gonna have
Speaker 2: complete totalitary and lockdown if Kamala gets in there, because
Speaker 2: Kamala the communist. Do you really think things are gonna
Speaker 2: improve or or go into disrepair severely after this selection?
Speaker 2: Do you think it's gonna change that much? I'm willing
Speaker 2: to bet business as usual will prevail, except I do
Speaker 2: have a theory about who might start a new war
Speaker 2: and why and oh, by the way, that might be
Speaker 2: multiple choice. But anyway, enough O of me I don't
Speaker 2: want to talk about my opinions. My opinions don't matter.
Speaker 2: I know that you guys don't care to hear. I'd
Speaker 2: rather hear from you. Three to one nine, five two seven,
Speaker 2: five zero one six. That's the number to call join us.
Speaker 2: I haven't even looked at the phone lines yet, but
Speaker 2: I got one hundred lines open, so anybody could join
Speaker 2: us to talk about anything tonight. Three one nine five
Speaker 2: two seven, five zero one six. That's the number to call,
Speaker 2: or you can reach out to me Charles dot O'Kelly
Speaker 2: on Skype. And we're gonna do this all the way
Speaker 2: up to ten pm Eastern when Aaron Franz takes over
Speaker 2: and does the Age of Transitions, and oh, by the way,
Speaker 2: he's probably gonna bore me to death for an hour.
Speaker 2: I tried to add something new to his show last week.
Speaker 2: We extended the Age of Transitions accidentally talking about what
Speaker 2: it is. I'd love to see Aaron do to talk
Speaker 2: about how technology has influenced things and how you know
Speaker 2: there's a circular relationship there, and how he could talk
Speaker 2: about the transitioning ages, the various ages, the procession of
Speaker 2: the technological technocracy, marching through the world and altering things
Speaker 2: as it goes along with humanity changing. And how about
Speaker 2: we talk about that, the irrevocable transhumanism of technology and
Speaker 2: its effect on the species. Yeah, I'd love to see
Speaker 2: Aaron break that down, but even he's caught up in
Speaker 2: this selection nonsense, uncle, isn't. That's a whole different show.
Speaker 2: But whatever, You guys will get to hear that starting
Speaker 2: at ten pm Eastern here on Oatelly dot com Radio
Speaker 2: and it'll be live and then we'll release the podcast whenever.
Speaker 2: You guys don't care about that either. All of my
Speaker 2: downloads are down. Everything's down, Donations are down, memberships are down.
Speaker 2: People are canceling stuff, writing to me telling me I suck,
Speaker 2: telling me I don't do anything of interest anymore, either
Speaker 2: complaining that I didn't do enough JFK stuff before or
Speaker 2: now I do too much. That's a new complaint. But whatever,
Speaker 2: I'm here. You guys could probably write a brand new script.
Speaker 2: Give me an idea for next week's show if you want,
Speaker 2: give me one show. I got to know. I got
Speaker 2: a completely open show next week that I have no
Speaker 2: idea what I'm gonna do with. Yet, give me that
Speaker 2: idea tonight if you want, give me an idea of
Speaker 2: what it is you would actually listen to that doesn't
Speaker 2: revolve around Trump and Kamala or the culture wars. Give
Speaker 2: me something, I'll work with it.
Speaker 1: I will.
Speaker 2: Otherwise I don't know, I'll spit something out. And like
Speaker 2: I said, I'm trying to schedule Robert Grodin for Wednesday.
Speaker 2: I'm looking to see if Larry Hancock will either take
Speaker 2: the Thursday because Swanson won't be around, or he'll take
Speaker 2: Tuesday maybe, and trying to reschedule. Anyhow, I was gonna
Speaker 2: do a double shot on Wednesday this past week, but
Speaker 2: I couldn't even keep my head out out of the
Speaker 2: paoale where I was puking. So it is what it is. Anyway,
Speaker 2: I'm not check in with my co host and then
Speaker 2: go take a look at the phone lines and see
Speaker 2: if you guys have joined us. Three one nine, five
Speaker 2: two seven five zero one six. I'll get to you
Speaker 2: as quick as I can, as soon as I let
Speaker 2: BPTE vent a little bit. God knows, maybe he's got
Speaker 2: a frustration or two. I'm sure he's fed up with
Speaker 2: certain commercials he's getting hit with, or is he I
Speaker 2: don't know. I haven't gotten selection commercials in a bit,
Speaker 2: I'm getting other crap. Are you guys getting selection commercials?
Speaker 2: What are you getting?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: Maybe you pay all those you know, premiums, so you
Speaker 2: get commercial free access to everything. I don't know. I
Speaker 2: can't afford that. Maybe you do. If you do, let
Speaker 2: me know. Let me know if if you've accidentally caught
Speaker 2: a commercial because you have to be out somewhere and
Speaker 2: somebody had God help you radio on or something, or
Speaker 2: maybe somebody turned on one of those old devices called
Speaker 2: a television somewhere and you just went, wow, that's commercial.
Speaker 2: What is it? Tell me about that, Tell me about
Speaker 2: what's going on in your week, Tell me about what matters.
Speaker 2: Just you know, please, if you're gonna do culture wars
Speaker 2: and selection discussion, I'm probably gonna check out on you.
Speaker 2: I'm just telling you. I'm I'm misfed up with it
Speaker 2: as Swanson is, except I'm still willing to talk to
Speaker 2: you guys anyway. Three one nine five two seven five
Speaker 2: zero one six. That's the number to call. Three one
Speaker 2: nine five two seven five zero one six. So be pete.
Speaker 2: I know I gave you a couple of minutes there,
Speaker 2: and I talked for a bit. Uh, but uh, I
Speaker 2: don't know. I think I got to everybody and I
Speaker 2: got out what I needed to get out for this
Speaker 2: entire show already. So what's on your mind this week,
Speaker 2: be Pete?
Speaker 1: Well, first off, it's been a beautiful week. I've been
Speaker 1: waiting for weather like this for all summer long. Wed
Speaker 1: some beautiful fall weather here. Come down to what thirty
Speaker 1: four this morning? So that was kind of a surprise
Speaker 1: going back up for another week. Yeah, it was chilly,
Speaker 1: and I wasn't quite used to it final had it
Speaker 1: cut the heat on. I didn't want to do that
Speaker 1: this early. But it is what it is now. I
Speaker 1: can understand Mike's frustration. You're frustration, everybody's frustration when you
Speaker 1: know the everywhere you turn is the election and the
Speaker 1: ramifications and how it's what Hitler versus Stalin. Well, no,
Speaker 1: I would just call it what it is, Hitler versus Marx.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's basically what it comes down to. That's
Speaker 1: what the two sides are claiming pretty much. It amazes me, though,
Speaker 1: how easily it has been for people to equate individuals
Speaker 1: with Hitler. You know, Hitler used to have this status
Speaker 1: where he was a pretty evil guy. But he was
Speaker 1: supposedly this evil genius. You know, he was an opportunist
Speaker 1: and he was in the right place at the right
Speaker 1: time and was able to capitalize on it. But it's
Speaker 1: a pretty evil dude. Well, you know, on the left.
Speaker 1: Anytime anybody on the right does something that pisses off
Speaker 1: somebody on the left, they're Nazi. Fascist is the new term.
Speaker 3: I guess.
Speaker 1: You know, we'll not just go to hit around, We'll
Speaker 1: throw in Mussolini in there too. It's crazy, but it's
Speaker 1: twenty four to seven. It's wall to wall. I noticed
Speaker 1: today and this is one reason I'm going to be
Speaker 1: soon getting rid of my personal Facebook page. I went
Speaker 1: to notifications, I got a notification as somebody replied to something,
Speaker 1: and I pull up that page on my phone and
Speaker 1: Netta has managed to stick ads every third entry into
Speaker 1: that page. It's like, you can't even go to your
Speaker 1: notifications without senidam advertisement. Now. Nope, it's ridiculous.
Speaker 2: They don't give you an option. They don't give you
Speaker 2: an option either, do they to like get rid of
Speaker 2: the ads?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: Meta doesn't even give you like can't.
Speaker 1: Get no, you cannot you can you can make you
Speaker 1: can go to your settings and affect what kind of
Speaker 1: ads you see. If you want to see ads for
Speaker 1: personal products or luxury items or this or that, you
Speaker 1: can set these filters and all, but you're still going
Speaker 1: to get the ads.
Speaker 2: Ain't nothing to do.
Speaker 1: But the only service you mentioned, you know, paying premium
Speaker 1: to avoid commercials. The only thing that I pay for
Speaker 1: is premium YouTube. I don't have to deal with commercials there.
Speaker 1: But other than that, I mean, it's twenty four to
Speaker 1: seven every time you turn your head, and it's it's
Speaker 1: the political I've gotten to where now I will get
Speaker 1: up in the morning, cut the TV news on, and
Speaker 1: I'll cut the volume down and put the closed Captain
Speaker 1: on so I don't have to listen to these damn commercials.
Speaker 1: Right It's it's getting ridiculous. But and then again, you
Speaker 1: know culture wars. I'm not really not quite sure what
Speaker 1: the culture wars entail now because everything is tied to
Speaker 1: politics in some form or fashion. You can't be for
Speaker 1: something or against something without looking at the ramifications on
Speaker 1: which side of the aisle you would sit, even though
Speaker 1: the majority of us kind of sit in the middle,
Speaker 1: which is kind of funny.
Speaker 2: Well, that's the funniest part of it.
Speaker 1: We don't have a section in the middle. Yeah, for
Speaker 1: the people in the middle.
Speaker 2: That's the funniest part of it. The majority of people
Speaker 2: in general, right, really don't stand on the extremes. They
Speaker 2: just don't. But if you got JP Satillity's newsmandal, right,
Speaker 2: you go to the Rundown today, you can see where
Speaker 2: one of the major culture wars is erupting, okay, and
Speaker 2: where everybody's very focused on this. It's about, you know,
Speaker 2: masculinity and what's going on there, okay, and just reading
Speaker 2: the headlines real fast. How Americans see men in masculinity
Speaker 2: is the first headline. Then far more Republican men say
Speaker 2: they are highly masculine than Democratic men. Poll finds Trump
Speaker 2: holds a big lead among Americans who view themselves as
Speaker 2: completely masculine in quotes Democrats. Problem with male voters is
Speaker 2: it complicated. Young men's economic prospects are shifting along with
Speaker 2: their politics. Women and minority business owners have their sites
Speaker 2: set on expansion. Bank of America's study shows shed a
Speaker 2: tear for the endangered American male. See, this is one
Speaker 2: of the major things, is what masculinity and what is
Speaker 2: toxic masculinity? And you know you're not allowed to be
Speaker 2: so male.
Speaker 1: Right there. Wait, let's take a pause. Let's take a pause.
Speaker 1: Right there, Let's look at culture, and let's look at
Speaker 1: the feminist movement coming out of the sixties into the
Speaker 1: seventies and the eighties and the Equal Rights Amendment, everything
Speaker 1: that was going on back then. Yeah, you know, that
Speaker 1: was a time where, yes, there stereotypes attached to being
Speaker 1: men and women. We didn't have the trans issue then
Speaker 1: because it was either in the closet or so small
Speaker 1: and insignificant that it wasn't an issue.
Speaker 2: It was tiny.
Speaker 1: It was even in the gay community. These these premises
Speaker 1: of male and female were pretty much.
Speaker 2: Not to thought.
Speaker 1: Well, let's say they had easily recognizable borders to them. Well,
Speaker 1: seminism wanted to move up, and feminists found out a
Speaker 1: long time ago that the only way that they're going
Speaker 1: to pull themselves up the ladder is to pull men
Speaker 1: down the ladder. Apparently they couldn't climb the ladder beside
Speaker 1: the men. They had to pull the men down that. No, wait,
Speaker 1: it's our time. It's you know, it's the year of
Speaker 1: the woman, for the decade of the women. And we
Speaker 1: saw how that turned out. So women eventually wanted to.
Speaker 1: You know, men get away with a lot of stuff.
Speaker 1: Oh they're men, they get away with it. Well, we
Speaker 1: would like to do some of that stuff too, And
Speaker 1: eventually they work their way up to where they wanted
Speaker 1: to compete with men. They wanted to do the things
Speaker 1: that men could do and get away with, and so
Speaker 1: they started working their way into the male side of
Speaker 1: the border and pushing in on men. Well, you know,
Speaker 1: men being men, they're going to fight back. You know,
Speaker 1: they'll ignore it for a while, they'll put up with it.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's just the story of life. Eventually they're
Speaker 1: going to reach a limit where they're going to bite back. Well,
Speaker 1: now you've had women assuming all of these areas controlled
Speaker 1: or inhabited by men, over millennia. So what men do.
Speaker 1: They start recoiling back, and then one of them get
Speaker 1: smart and finds a way to worm his way into
Speaker 1: the women's side of things. Boom, transgender movement takes off.
Speaker 1: And you think about that women. Women have been competing
Speaker 1: with men for equal standing to the point that now
Speaker 1: men have snuck up on the other side of them
Speaker 1: and are taking their places. They're taking place in women's
Speaker 1: sports Title nine for college purposes was set up so
Speaker 1: that women would have a fair shape. These colleges and
Speaker 1: institutions would have to start promoting women's sports, not as much,
Speaker 1: but on a higher level than they had been. Basketball
Speaker 1: players should get the same opportunities as men basketball players. Okay,
Speaker 1: so they passed this Title nine section and it allowed
Speaker 1: schools to start putting more money towards the female side
Speaker 1: of sports and things of that nature. Well, what do
Speaker 1: you have now, what is the biggest complaint in sports
Speaker 1: right now? Men competing as women. There's a simple way
Speaker 1: to fix that and have men compete against men, women
Speaker 1: compete against women, which it has been since I don't know,
Speaker 1: since the basketball was invented or before. But now we
Speaker 1: have this, this this mixed gendering going on, and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, people are they're they're they're fed up
Speaker 1: with it. It's like, let men be men, let women
Speaker 1: be women. Toxic you There is no term out there
Speaker 1: the equivalent of toxic masculinity. Think about it. Have we
Speaker 1: ever heard of toxic femininity? I could go for days
Speaker 1: discussing that little feature, But to get into that, you're
Speaker 1: gonna have to start. You're going to have to start
Speaker 1: discussing what some think are stereotypes. Others think are derogatory
Speaker 1: statements towards women from men. Well, okay, but we've gotten
Speaker 1: to the point now that it's not just toxic masculinity.
Speaker 1: Any masculinity needs to be called into question.
Speaker 2: See. And this is the point at which I'm sure
Speaker 2: backing out. You know why, because you're talking about a
Speaker 2: small percentage even this whole well, you know, there's men
Speaker 2: competing and they were transgender, and you know what, it's
Speaker 2: still a small It's not the the effectively, the massive,
Speaker 2: the majority of males, okay, are affected. Not in this way.
Speaker 2: This is not what's affecting us. This is the talking point.
Speaker 2: How are we being affected? I gotta tell you, yeah.
Speaker 1: It is affecting us because we have to listen to
Speaker 1: the discussion about it every single day.
Speaker 2: But that's what it is. It's just a discussion. What's
Speaker 2: really affecting your life is not this. This isn't it.
Speaker 2: This is not you know even so what sports? I
Speaker 2: don't even care, you know what it really seriously, what
Speaker 2: really affects me is the fact that I'm watching a
Speaker 2: new generation of males come up that have no concept,
Speaker 2: no connection to anything that I understood as being male.
Speaker 2: They're not connected to it.
Speaker 1: We're taught about being a male is bad.
Speaker 2: But that's the thing, is that it's this negative that
Speaker 2: has a greater broader impact than any of the sports
Speaker 2: crap than any of these transgender athletes.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying, wait a minute, I'm not saying the
Speaker 1: main problem is we've got guys that want to play
Speaker 1: volleyball as girls. It's what led to that. It's this,
Speaker 1: this this cultural rod where you have that. You're saying, Okay,
Speaker 1: that doesn't affect you, the guy playing volleyball on the
Speaker 1: girls team, but it's the thinking behind that that affects
Speaker 1: so much more of your life. You know, it used to.
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe it went away when suddenly rules
Speaker 1: didn't matter anymore. You see, you talk about democracy, the choice,
Speaker 1: the threat to democracy. I got news for everybody out there.
Speaker 1: Democracy hasn't existed from quite some time. Even if you
Speaker 1: want to make the argument that this is a representative republic,
Speaker 1: it's not been representative for quite some time. You're right,
Speaker 1: is already in ruin.
Speaker 2: Now, both things, no matter how you want to couch it,
Speaker 2: it's gone anyway. Okay, this is a corporatocracy, which gives
Speaker 2: the biggest power to the biggest buck. It's that simple.
Speaker 2: But back to this other thing. Before the rise of
Speaker 2: the transgenderism, Okay, this was already happening. They were undermining,
Speaker 2: they were totally destroying any of the social contract that
Speaker 2: was there that gave clear definition to male and female,
Speaker 2: that gave clear definition to man woman. Okay, we had
Speaker 2: ways of interacting and there were, you know, stereotypical things,
Speaker 2: and I get it. There was a lot of unfair
Speaker 2: stuff that was going on, and yes, some of that
Speaker 2: needed to be corrected, but it was an overcorrection that
Speaker 2: took place here, and it started in the nineteen nineties,
Speaker 2: not even in the two thousands the way I see it,
Speaker 2: because all of a sudden you had to be a
Speaker 2: certain way. You couldn't be like you were before. You know,
Speaker 2: being the kind of guy that you know, handled things
Speaker 2: a certain way was now seen as destructive. You were
Speaker 2: exactly the problem, right, You were the problem in society
Speaker 2: because well, we were responsible for the majority of the violence.
Speaker 2: And I get it, it makes sense, but you don't
Speaker 2: correct it by neutering everybody. And this is what's starting
Speaker 2: to happen.
Speaker 1: Whoa back up, you just made a comment that caught
Speaker 1: me very much by surprise. Are you saying that it's
Speaker 1: because men at one time were responsible for more violence
Speaker 1: than women?
Speaker 2: Yeah, we were.
Speaker 1: I don't think we were, okay. I think studies have
Speaker 1: shown that across the board domestic, especially when you're looking
Speaker 1: at domestic violence situations, women initiate violence in some studies
Speaker 1: a little bit more than men, or just as often
Speaker 1: as men. And that's been one big misconception that we've
Speaker 1: used to decide policy and direct discussions and direct the
Speaker 1: well to influence the direction that we want our society
Speaker 1: to take because of the myth that you know, men
Speaker 1: were violent, women weren't. I got news for you. Women
Speaker 1: have been violent since women have been created. You know,
Speaker 1: I hate to put that out there. Some people can't
Speaker 1: accept that fact, but it is a fact and most
Speaker 1: major studies have shown And I went through this through
Speaker 1: counseling and all in connection with a divorce, and this
Speaker 1: was something that I didn't have to do, but volunteered
Speaker 1: to do and learn this information. In the domestic violence situations,
Speaker 1: women are just as culpable as men when it comes
Speaker 1: to initiating violence, and we need to put that myth
Speaker 1: to bed.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's in domestic violence situations. But I mean, honestly,
Speaker 2: you know, when it comes to serial killers, when it
Speaker 2: comes to you know, the people that commit most of
Speaker 2: the mass violent acts and things, you're telling me that
Speaker 2: women had had a bigger history of that. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I've never really looked at the total number of women
Speaker 1: serial killers throughout history.
Speaker 2: And there haven't been that many. That's the thing.
Speaker 1: Well, there are some, though, let's not discount that.
Speaker 2: No, I wouldn't say there was none. I mean, you know,
Speaker 2: like it was that Eileen Warnos was one, there was
Speaker 2: a couple. You know, look, there's been a few, and
Speaker 2: there's been a couple of partnerships. But violence.
Speaker 1: Are you talking about going to war?
Speaker 2: No, not going to war.
Speaker 1: Go to war more often than men when you look
Speaker 1: at the governments involved in the number of females involved
Speaker 1: in the governments that make the decisions to me say yeah,
Speaker 1: we're going to declare war and support it. So yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe they are as violent as men. No.
Speaker 2: Look, I'm not saying that our armies are not a
Speaker 2: fair thing to look at because in a lot of
Speaker 2: places women weren't even serving in militaries. And about I'm
Speaker 2: talking about.
Speaker 1: Massive domestic violence and if it's not societal violence or crime,
Speaker 1: women commit just as much crime as men.
Speaker 2: Well, now, now I don't know about that, because we
Speaker 2: we got way less convictions for sure. Okay, you got
Speaker 2: way less prison space being a lot of the women
Speaker 2: in the United States where most of the prisoners are okay,
Speaker 2: and in other countries you see prisons. There aren't many women.
Speaker 1: Where you hear of a couple, but usually when you
Speaker 1: hear of a couple getting caught for the same crime,
Speaker 1: nine times out of ten, the woman is if she
Speaker 1: gets anything out of it at all, it's reduced compared
Speaker 1: to what the guy gets because the guy is the perpetrator,
Speaker 1: the guys the mastermind. It wasn't for the guys, she
Speaker 1: never would have done it. Too many times in court.
Speaker 2: Well, look, we could sit, we can sit and argue
Speaker 2: about that. But what I'm saying is if you look
Speaker 2: at rates of conviction, you look at imprisonment, you look
Speaker 2: at stuff like that, I mean, it's a there's a
Speaker 2: clear divide between the sexes.
Speaker 1: But anyway, I'll branch to the point that men are
Speaker 1: more violent. How does that change?
Speaker 2: But it doesn't. That's the thing.
Speaker 1: How that affecting what's going on now in that we're
Speaker 1: having to put up with every day, every day.
Speaker 2: See, it doesn't. That's the thing. That's my point actually
Speaker 2: is that Look, what you needed to do is correct
Speaker 2: the situations that bring this about masculinity that was bringing
Speaker 2: about the violence. Okay, it was there was a whole
Speaker 2: other group of circumstances that come together to create these things. Okay,
Speaker 2: And it's not about just you know, uh, the the
Speaker 2: the person's gender that is that's the problem. There is
Speaker 2: a gender divide, that's the result, but it's not the
Speaker 2: basis for it.
Speaker 1: But until we hear the term on a regular basis
Speaker 1: in media, like we do toxic masculinity, when we start
Speaker 1: hearing toxic femininity, then I'm ready for a discussion because
Speaker 1: until you're willing to address that, it doesn't matter what
Speaker 1: you do.
Speaker 2: Now, I'm with you. Look, it's all about it, but
Speaker 2: it's it's about toxicity. Forget about the gender. See there's
Speaker 2: the thing, okay, and that's the problem. But since this
Speaker 2: was pointed at men, right, it was like, well, men
Speaker 2: need to become more sensitive, they need to become more empathetic,
Speaker 2: they need to and so on and so forth.
Speaker 1: And feminine.
Speaker 2: That was what they were reaching for.
Speaker 1: No, No, that was the whole argument that started back
Speaker 1: in the eighties.
Speaker 2: Men need to do That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: That is exactly what I'm saying. That's what the this
Speaker 2: is before. Look back when that was going on, right,
Speaker 2: you know, men are from Mars, women are from Venus,
Speaker 2: blah blah blah, all that crap. Back when that was
Speaker 2: going on, the transgender thing was a freak show. It
Speaker 2: was something that you had on. You know, Sally, Jesse
Speaker 2: Rafael were amazed because here's a dude that had an
Speaker 2: operation done to turn into a woman. Right, it was
Speaker 2: like a freak show. It wasn't even like, you know,
Speaker 2: this isn't accepted thing. No, it was like, wow, this
Speaker 2: is strange, you know what I mean. And it wasn't that.
Speaker 2: So it wasn't about changing the gender physically. It wasn't
Speaker 2: about this alteration. It was about altering this psychology. It
Speaker 2: was about altering the base and this is what the
Speaker 2: problem was. So that led to what we see today,
Speaker 2: that's for sure. But I mean the fact that you
Speaker 2: got somebody, you know, transgender, it's it's like that's an
Speaker 2: obvious thing that's gonna occur eventually. You basically said, you know,
Speaker 2: you gotta I mean, look, bluntly, it's almost like, let's
Speaker 2: just psychologically cut your balls off, because that's pretty much
Speaker 2: what you need to do in order to be less destructive.
Speaker 2: And that's the only that's the only answer, is to
Speaker 2: neuter you. I mean, really that that's what it started
Speaker 2: coming down to. It is like, you got to be
Speaker 2: less this, You got to be less this. And now
Speaker 2: we're at a point where, look, you ask a woman
Speaker 2: out more than once, and I gotta tell you, you're
Speaker 2: now a stalker. You're you're a sexual predator, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. There are weird standards going on that
Speaker 2: were implemented with the whole you know, as soon as
Speaker 2: somebody blames you for something or makes an accusation against you,
Speaker 2: you got to believe the accusation, right.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: That's I don't know, I'm on the fence on that
Speaker 1: because I look at this whole Herd Weinstein thing that
Speaker 1: went on and how a whole industry knew what was
Speaker 1: going on behind the doors, and when it finally became published,
Speaker 1: they're all sitting there going, oh, you know, it's it's
Speaker 1: a shame, you know, it's terrible that it came to this.
Speaker 1: And I'm sitting there thinking, you people have no reason
Speaker 1: to open your mouths. You knew this was going on.
Speaker 1: It was the talk of the town. And yet now
Speaker 1: you want to come out and say, you know, the
Speaker 1: poor victims this and that. Well, would there be so
Speaker 1: many victims if you people had done something about something
Speaker 1: in your own industry. Now, how about a nice comfortable
Speaker 1: cup of shut the fuck up and sit down. That's
Speaker 1: the problem. We're not telling people to shut the fuck
Speaker 1: up anymore, but certain individuals you just need to tell them. Look,
Speaker 1: what you're spouting is nonsense. Just shut up and let's
Speaker 1: sit If you want to discuss the problem, we'll discuss
Speaker 1: the problem, but we're not going to discuss all this
Speaker 1: peripheral craft that you want to throw in and all
Speaker 1: your microaggressions and all this other app you want to
Speaker 1: pile on and argue about. Let's get to the point
Speaker 1: to solve the problem. Nobody wants to solve the problem
Speaker 1: because the minute you start taking away on that peripheral graph,
Speaker 1: suddenly they got nothing to complain about. There you go,
Speaker 1: you realize there ain't no problem.
Speaker 2: Believe it or not, you and I are aligning very well.
Speaker 2: It's just at my point is that this problem predates
Speaker 2: any of this transgender sports all. It's well before that.
Speaker 1: That's the most recent manifestation of the of the of
Speaker 1: the mental demise of people involved in making decisions that
Speaker 1: affect everybody else. It comes from government, and it comes
Speaker 1: from institutions, and it comes from colleges, and it comes
Speaker 1: from organizations, and it comes from businesses. That's the problem.
Speaker 2: And really the crazy damage being done is just like
Speaker 2: what you see on like you know, like a TV
Speaker 2: show like South Park Today, where it's like, oh good,
Speaker 2: I'm so glad we have gay kids in town. Now,
Speaker 2: you know, they're nine years old. I'm glad they're gay,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It's like why because, oh,
Speaker 2: I know why, because they can't be as masculine if
Speaker 2: they're gay. See, this is all good. Males are supposed
Speaker 2: to be gay. Oh and by the way, females are
Speaker 2: supposed to be gay. Everything's supposed to be gay. Now
Speaker 2: that's just better. It's so bizarre. I just I don't know,
Speaker 2: you know, And I'm not saying we should go back
Speaker 2: to the days when it was acceptable, because there was
Speaker 2: certain points where I think it was out of line.
Speaker 2: It was acceptable, like you could get away with doing
Speaker 2: things to people based on the fact that they were gay.
Speaker 2: You could. That's true, okay, and I admit that that
Speaker 2: is something that needed to be corrected. But there's this
Speaker 2: over correction that goes on in society that just this
Speaker 2: is the result of that overcorrection. I'm telling you now,
Speaker 2: this is the result of that overcorrection that started, like
Speaker 2: you said, back in the eighties. Really I see it
Speaker 2: as the nineties. But you know what, I'll go with
Speaker 2: you on this. The eighties when it was get in
Speaker 2: touch with your feminine side. And indeed, it is helpful
Speaker 2: to get in touch with that on some level, but
Speaker 2: you don't have to turn into that. You don't have
Speaker 2: to completely reverse every single thing.
Speaker 1: But that's just it. Though. They were claiming to get
Speaker 1: in touch with your feminine side. But if you use
Speaker 1: the standard of the time to determine whether something was
Speaker 1: masculine or feminine, you were wrong. So how do you
Speaker 1: get in touch with your feminine side when what I
Speaker 1: think is my feminine side? Oh no, that's just a
Speaker 1: bunch of stereotypes that you've got in your head. Yes,
Speaker 1: this is somebody defined to me what the feminine side is,
Speaker 1: what feminine attributes that I'm supposed to get in touch with.
Speaker 2: What we've ended up with here is a bunch of,
Speaker 2: as I said, neutered males, which is not the same
Speaker 2: as feminized males. These are not even feminized males. This
Speaker 2: is a ridiculous other thing that has happened here. Okay,
Speaker 2: So even if the goal was, you know, get in
Speaker 2: touch with your feminine side, it's a failure. It's a
Speaker 2: complete failure, because this is now warping into something else,
Speaker 2: and that's all it is now. You know, the these
Speaker 2: these guys that I see now, these young guys, they're
Speaker 2: they're scared of everything. They don't know what to say.
Speaker 2: They're they're they're dating through apps and things on phones,
Speaker 2: and everybody talks about that. You know why, because if
Speaker 2: you're in the same room with a woman, you're you're,
Speaker 2: you're like, you could be in trouble any anytime you
Speaker 2: do anything that comes natural. Nothing comes natural anymore. I
Speaker 2: swear to God. The food is definitely uh uh, you know,
Speaker 2: done done this neutering job on everybody too, because there's
Speaker 2: all these uh and and you know, everybody thought that
Speaker 2: was a crazy conspiracy theory for a while. And I
Speaker 2: know Alex Jones and the gay Frogs and all, but dude,
Speaker 2: there are various estrogen mimickers that are just in our
Speaker 2: food system. And I swear that's.
Speaker 1: Another reason where Soyboy came from.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, but that's it. That's all we got now
Speaker 2: is soy boys. You know what I'm saying. I mean,
Speaker 2: that's all there is now. Where do you see like
Speaker 2: really recognizable to the to the boys that you saw,
Speaker 2: you know, growing up. They hardly exist anywhere? And then
Speaker 2: it's like the only place they might exist they try
Speaker 2: and tell you, is, oh, they exist here. You know,
Speaker 2: in this it's like your only choice is to go
Speaker 2: full on into the other direction and reject, you know,
Speaker 2: anything that is outside of It's like anyway, you know what,
Speaker 2: I don't even want to go into it anymore. I
Speaker 2: we got callers. Yeah, I want to take the calls
Speaker 2: and get their opinions on stuff, and maybe they'll talk
Speaker 2: about something else. But here we go.
Speaker 1: I'm in.
Speaker 2: I'm in the culture board discussion anyway. No matter what
Speaker 2: I try to do, so here.
Speaker 1: It is, I don't understand the culture war. You know,
Speaker 1: maybe I'm too old, or maybe I'm old enough that
Speaker 1: I remember a time where culture was something that you
Speaker 1: thought connected to a country. You know, the all of
Speaker 1: the Asian countries had their own culture, even though they
Speaker 1: were all Asian. You had the Chinese, the Japanese, the Koreans,
Speaker 1: the Filipinos, the time on ease the tie. You have
Speaker 1: all these cultures that you know, learned from each other
Speaker 1: over time. So that's what I associate culture to be.
Speaker 1: What we have now, I guess growing up in this
Speaker 1: country we've lost culture. We don't have an American culture anymore.
Speaker 2: Well, we didn't really have one to begin with, because
Speaker 2: it was constantly going through revision, okay, And that was
Speaker 2: the beauty of it. That was the great part of it.
Speaker 2: Is every time something else got added in, you got
Speaker 2: something new. You got something new to your food, you
Speaker 2: got something new to your entertainment, you got something new.
Speaker 2: That's the thing that was the great part of it.
Speaker 2: You know, like I've tried to say, you know in
Speaker 2: various places that there were certain strong cultures that came
Speaker 2: into this country that influenced what is known and thought
Speaker 2: to be American. But now that has all been thrown
Speaker 2: away because it's like, I don't even know what it
Speaker 2: is people count as American culture. I know what it is,
Speaker 2: you know on the right they claim as American culture.
Speaker 2: I know what the real you know, hardcore lefties claim
Speaker 2: as American culture. They're both way the hell off. It's
Speaker 2: got nothing to do with either side of the equation,
Speaker 2: either of the extremes. You know, like you said earlier,
Speaker 2: a lot of people live in the middle. This is
Speaker 2: where we really are, is somewhere in the middle, Okay,
Speaker 2: And that is where the majority of people are. But
Speaker 2: the extremes, they're the ones that get the microphones. That
Speaker 2: that's what gets the microphones, man, that's what gets on
Speaker 2: to your news. That's what gets to be pushed.
Speaker 1: Sit down and shut their silly mouth. Some of the
Speaker 1: stuff that I've heard. I listen. I go on YouTube,
Speaker 1: and yeah, I look at my k pok videos. Okay,
Speaker 1: that see, I'm trying to get another little bit of culture.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get culturated. But I go and I
Speaker 1: look at these debates Douglas Murray and an other individuals,
Speaker 1: Jordan Peterson, and these debates where people are actually sitting
Speaker 1: there talking about ideas that have such an effect. Well,
Speaker 1: they talk about the things that have an effect on
Speaker 1: us and we don't know it because it's behind the
Speaker 1: scenes stuff. It's what motivates governments to be as evil
Speaker 1: as they are, and things of that nature. And I
Speaker 1: look at these debates of the West versus anybody else
Speaker 1: who wants to try to tear it down, and the
Speaker 1: things that have come from Western culture and things that
Speaker 1: have been promoted to the betterment of man through Western culture.
Speaker 1: It's everyday life. People get up, they go to work,
Speaker 1: they try to pay the bills, they try to figure
Speaker 1: out how they're going to put their kids through college,
Speaker 1: and they try to keep their head above water. Oh
Speaker 1: and they would like to, you know, buy a new
Speaker 1: car every so many years so they can feel like
Speaker 1: that they're you know, doing well. It's the things that
Speaker 1: are affecting us now and strangling us as a culture
Speaker 1: in this country are because, like you say, the extremists
Speaker 1: get the microphone. But it's not only that, it's the
Speaker 1: funding for the extremists from the businesses behind it. They
Speaker 1: control everything, and we can't get that financial influence out
Speaker 1: of anything. It seems like the forget government. There's no
Speaker 1: way in hell you're going to get business out of
Speaker 1: government now. They're too deeply entrenched. So what do you do?
Speaker 2: I mean how, I don't know. Yeah, see, I don't
Speaker 2: know either. That's where I'm at. But look, let's get
Speaker 2: to the callers. I know, we got Jimmy James waiting
Speaker 2: on the line, so I'm going to bring him on
Speaker 2: and let him speak his mind in any any direction
Speaker 2: he wants to go, because I'm fed up with this.
Speaker 2: I mean I really am. And like I said, I
Speaker 2: understand why Swanson is just throwing up his hands and saying,
Speaker 2: you know what, I don't even want to talk. I
Speaker 2: get it, I really do, Mike. And by the way,
Speaker 2: I just scheduled Larry Hancock for Tuesday next week, so
Speaker 2: I did that.
Speaker 5: Wall.
Speaker 2: I'm on the air here and hopefully Bob Groden will
Speaker 2: be on on Wednesday. I have no idea what Thursday
Speaker 2: is going to be, So Thursday, if you guys want
Speaker 2: to give me a suggestion per show or Monday one
Speaker 2: or the other, I'll do a Monday show or a
Speaker 2: Thursday show and we'll fill out the whole week next
Speaker 2: week if I can keep the vomiting under control. Jimmy James,
Speaker 2: you're live, man, what's on your mind this week?
Speaker 6: Oh? This sweek's terrible. I mean whatever, the opposite of
Speaker 6: awesome is, That's what this week was.
Speaker 2: Oh no, wait, what happened in baseball? Jimmy, I know
Speaker 2: the Mets got pounded the other night. Jesus, that was rough.
Speaker 6: Your Mets are gone?
Speaker 2: So did they did they give did they give up
Speaker 2: the ghost? Now?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 1: They bombed out? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Man. You know what, I didn't even want to watch
Speaker 2: it yesterday because I saw that eight eight to nothing
Speaker 2: or whatever. It was like, oh my god. I watched
Speaker 2: that game and I was just like, yeah, this is
Speaker 2: where the Mets are going this year. Good thing. Nobody
Speaker 2: expecting anything big out of them this year because they
Speaker 2: ain't gonna deliver. But I was really hoping for a
Speaker 2: Subway series and god, you know, if anybody hears my prayers,
Speaker 2: no Yankees please, just as long as they lose, it's
Speaker 2: a good year. Okay as far as I'm concerned.
Speaker 1: But who's still in it? Is the.
Speaker 2: What's that?
Speaker 1: Who's the Who are the Yankees playing? Is it the
Speaker 1: oh the Guardian?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Guardians?
Speaker 2: No, I don't know. Let me let me look it up. Anyway, Jimmy,
Speaker 2: what is good?
Speaker 1: I'm looking for a bracket.
Speaker 2: But wait, the Mets haven't given it up yet. No,
Speaker 2: they haven't given it up yet. Let's see, or Jimmy,
Speaker 2: though they got well, let's see, they got seven all together.
Speaker 2: So they're going to Game.
Speaker 8: Six, lew Yeah, three to two, the Dodgers leads, so
Speaker 8: they got one more at least unless they win to
Speaker 8: in a row, in which case they got it.
Speaker 2: But either way, I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if
Speaker 2: they drop it.
Speaker 1: The next game is what's today to eighteen?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so the next one is on the twenty, Yeah,
Speaker 2: on Sunday. That's what I'm looking at right here. Let's
Speaker 2: see what else we got here? The Yankees and the Guardians. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's the Yankees and the audience formerly the Cleveland Indians.
Speaker 2: Right and right now, there's a Yankees lead that series
Speaker 2: two to one. All right, so that's not nearly over yet.
Speaker 1: I never understood I never understood why they had to
Speaker 1: change their name from the Indians.
Speaker 2: Well, Chief Wahoo was looking kind of goofy. I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, I can see how you can feel a
Speaker 2: little insulted by this mascot.
Speaker 1: You gotta have something goofy. I mean, think about it.
Speaker 1: What the what's the one in Philly, the Philly the
Speaker 1: fanatic fanatic?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Or the San Diego Chicken. I mean, you gotta's nothing
Speaker 1: wrong with Chief Wahoo looking silly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but see, it's different if it's a mascot or
Speaker 2: if it's their logo. You know what I mean. I
Speaker 2: don't know. You know, it's sort of like the Washington Redskins.
Speaker 2: What are they now? They're the Commanders, No, the guard Wait,
Speaker 2: they're the commanders, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1: That's the family of the gentleman who was the supposedly
Speaker 1: the model for the logo for the Redskins is asking
Speaker 1: them to rename themselves the Redskins.
Speaker 6: Well, so of all the Indian tribes, they said, we
Speaker 6: never asked you to change it. A bunch of weird
Speaker 6: white women did.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I believe it. That's the way things get done.
Speaker 2: But yeah, so right now, let's see game three. Okay,
Speaker 2: so final yesterday Game three two.
Speaker 6: At Chief Wow, who was based on a player from
Speaker 6: one hundred years ago who wasn't even Indian. That's what
Speaker 6: they're funny about it.
Speaker 2: That figures.
Speaker 1: Well, there you go. There's another aspect of the PC
Speaker 1: World invading our sports.
Speaker 6: Well, that's the thing. No one remembers the history. How
Speaker 6: can you. They're tearing down statues, rewriting dictionaries, changing the
Speaker 6: meaning of words. Why I'm in a bad mood now, Chuck,
Speaker 6: you might as well get the next caller on.
Speaker 2: I don't want to do that yet. Wait. Let's let's
Speaker 2: see if we can help you. Okay, let's see if
Speaker 2: we can help you, Jimmy James.
Speaker 1: We don't get Jimmy in a bad mood too often,
Speaker 1: let's say exactly.
Speaker 2: Usually I get you, you know, usually I help you move, Jimmy.
Speaker 2: I don't want to send you off like this. This
Speaker 2: is no good. Come on now, look it, don't be
Speaker 2: mad at this stuff, all right? Who are you rooting for?
Speaker 1: One's got you bummed out?
Speaker 6: You know?
Speaker 2: Does it matter if they're called the commanders? Does it
Speaker 2: really matter to you? Seriously? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Because it's like associate certain things with certain Yeah.
Speaker 2: I just.
Speaker 5: I hope.
Speaker 6: I hope Trump gets back, and I hope the first
Speaker 6: thing he does is sign ninety executive orders. I hope
Speaker 6: Fort Hood goes back to being Fort Hood. I hope
Speaker 6: Fort Bragg goes back to beting Fort Bragg etc. Quit
Speaker 6: monking with the names in history. It just blokes me.
Speaker 1: I tried getting the Fort Bragg road sign where our
Speaker 1: job ends up is about seven miles from downtown Fable
Speaker 1: and where two ninety five turns off. You know, they
Speaker 1: had to come through and change the highway signs to
Speaker 1: say Fort Liberty and an arrow point in that way.
Speaker 1: So when they were down there slapping them out, I
Speaker 1: was trying to get a hold of one of the
Speaker 1: old Fort Bragg signs, but no, they were guarding those things.
Speaker 1: Now we trying to let those out of our sort
Speaker 1: they become valuable.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I bet they are so. Jimmy, tell people why
Speaker 2: why it's important for Fort Bragg to be named Fort
Speaker 2: Bragg again?
Speaker 6: Because it always has been named that, and just because
Speaker 6: it was named for a guy that ended up joining
Speaker 6: the Confedracy. Well, people at the time who actually fought
Speaker 6: and the thing didn't have didn't want to change the name.
Speaker 6: That's why these pukes today, one hundred and sixty seventy
Speaker 6: years later whining about it. What's it to them?
Speaker 2: Look, I hear you on that. I hear you on that.
Speaker 2: But I'll tell you here's the question I have. Right Eventually,
Speaker 2: everything's name changes, you know what I'm saying, Eventually you
Speaker 2: change names. They renamed stuff to honor somebody, They renamed
Speaker 2: something to honor something about an area. You know what
Speaker 2: I mean? How many times have you seen, like, you know,
Speaker 2: how many how many JFK things have been named because
Speaker 2: of Kennedy? Right? You know from the the you know
Speaker 2: Cape Canaveral right, now it's Cape Kennedy, right, I mean
Speaker 2: the airports Reagan. Reagan has an international airport now, right,
Speaker 2: I mean, is it really that bad to honor new stuff?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Good?
Speaker 4: But that's the thing.
Speaker 6: Do you remember all these things named for JFK? Already
Speaker 6: those things are starting to go away. Well, things that
Speaker 6: were named for JFK. Not they're named for that Floyd jerk.
Speaker 2: Stupid what they name stuff for George Floyd. I haven't
Speaker 2: really seen that they're renaming stuff to George Floyd.
Speaker 1: Oh you better believe it.
Speaker 6: Look at that Minneapolis or wherever he got himself killed
Speaker 6: in full of junk for that fool.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, look, you know what if the people
Speaker 2: in Minneapolis are okay with it, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: if they voted on it, and I say, why not?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, if they want to name it,
Speaker 2: you know, Jim Jones, I don't give a crap. If
Speaker 2: they're happy with it locally, and then fine, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Like, but these things always change names,
Speaker 2: everything does, you know, nothing lasts forever.
Speaker 1: No, But there's a difference between deciding to change the
Speaker 1: name on an institution that's been around it a while
Speaker 1: or the reason that these were changed. Oh, we can't
Speaker 1: be associate, we can't have anything associated with that individual,
Speaker 1: even though he did serve in the United States Army. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he joined the Confederate Army, okay? Or you know, are
Speaker 1: we trying to completely erase the fact that there was
Speaker 1: a Confederacy at a certain time, because changing the names
Speaker 1: is not going to do it. It's like, you know what,
Speaker 1: So what's the point? So it was Fort Bragg, right,
Speaker 1: it was named after Bragg, who was a general. He
Speaker 1: left and joined the Confederate Army.
Speaker 2: So what.
Speaker 1: And what is the difference. But you've got these individuals
Speaker 1: that want to just bitch and complain about anything and
Speaker 1: think that they're making progress in changing something from Fort
Speaker 1: Bragg to Fort Liberty.
Speaker 2: Well, Fort Liberty is an empty, empty thing. You know
Speaker 2: what I mean, if they were to name it after
Speaker 2: a different general and say, you know, even if you
Speaker 2: wanted to name it after LeMay or something, because he
Speaker 2: did do some things that although they were extremely savage,
Speaker 2: they were extremely effective, Right, I would say, you know what,
Speaker 2: it makes sense, you know what I mean, He's partially
Speaker 2: responsible for victory in World War two, le May and
Speaker 2: I can't stand this guy's it's comeback. But the truth is,
Speaker 2: if they need, you know, an air force base after him,
Speaker 2: I'd go, yeah, that makes sense, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I yeah, but I don't know. We went through that
Speaker 1: here over all these small towns that had a Confederate
Speaker 1: statue up naming the Confederate War dead, right, Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: this stuff was torn down. They'd go through all this hassle.
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's it's people were actually, you know,
Speaker 1: causing physical violence over things like this, over a statue
Speaker 1: that just honored some guys who fought for at the time,
Speaker 1: their country, you know, and okay, that was a sub
Speaker 1: unit of this entire country. Suddenly we've got to go
Speaker 1: through and start changing things simply because some people died
Speaker 1: defending the Confederacy. Well, see the Confederacy was part of
Speaker 1: our history, and we're just in wife out look.
Speaker 2: I get that part, but I also get that a
Speaker 2: lot of those statues were put up at a time
Speaker 2: when people were trying to push a certain political idealism,
Speaker 2: and they were putting it out there to make a point.
Speaker 2: And it wasn't about honoring the war dead. It wasn't
Speaker 2: about honoring Americans who maybe had you know.
Speaker 1: Honoring the war dead. The daughters of the Confederacy are
Speaker 1: the ones that funded these things. And then a lot
Speaker 1: of times, at one time they were put up on
Speaker 1: private properties, not public properties, and over time became public properties.
Speaker 1: They paid to put them up. Okay, fine, they were
Speaker 1: allowed to put them up. What difference does it make
Speaker 1: what time of the year it was or what it
Speaker 1: was the early nineteen hundreds and you know, segregation and
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah blah. The daughter confederacies put the
Speaker 1: money to put up a statue, and it was accepted
Speaker 1: at that time. It was accepted at that time by
Speaker 1: the locals and on a national level because they were
Speaker 1: all over the place. Well, but then, you know, but
Speaker 1: then I suddenly doesn't have to come down now.
Speaker 2: Because listen, if the people in that area, though, don't
Speaker 2: want it there. Like I said, I think it should
Speaker 2: be based on the will of the people that have
Speaker 2: to live with it. You know, if the people in
Speaker 2: that area forget about.
Speaker 6: It outside that well, even if it was the will
Speaker 6: of the people, even if it was the will of
Speaker 6: fifty one percent of the people, too damn bad.
Speaker 2: Well, but there you go. Look, if you got a
Speaker 2: majority of people in an area who don't want this
Speaker 2: thing there anymore, and it's on public property, I would say,
Speaker 2: what's what's the big issue? You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Things will come, things will go. I mean, and they're
Speaker 2: going to put up ridiculous things that that.
Speaker 5: I don't care.
Speaker 6: I don't care for fd R. I don't like them
Speaker 6: being on the dimes.
Speaker 2: I don't like them either. Well, it looks we we
Speaker 2: We've had other people on our dimes, haven't we. There's
Speaker 2: been other dimes besides the fr Lady Liberty was on
Speaker 2: the dime.
Speaker 6: Let's go back to our pagan I mean, our well
Speaker 6: they would be yeah.
Speaker 2: They are pagan representations of ancient goddesses. But yeah, but whatever.
Speaker 2: See that's the thing. To me, It hardly matters. I'm
Speaker 2: more concerned about the fact that that that dime is
Speaker 2: no longer made out of silver. You know what I mean,
Speaker 2: it doesn't actually have any monetary value. It's it's worth
Speaker 2: less than a die.
Speaker 1: Maybe for parts that I've got and I'm hoping one
Speaker 1: of you can. And this is this is a totally
Speaker 1: different subject, but it was something that that Chuck brought
Speaker 1: up in his introductory ramp pitcoin. Yeah, where is the
Speaker 1: value in bitcoin? Now? It's my understanding. These things were
Speaker 1: invented and put out there and people mind them, But
Speaker 1: where is the value behind them? What makes a bitcoin
Speaker 1: worth seventy thousand dollars?
Speaker 2: It's scarcity, there's a limited Yeah.
Speaker 1: There's wait wait, I mean scarcly. Okay, wait, wait a
Speaker 1: minute more.
Speaker 2: It could be.
Speaker 6: It's a giant block and once you mind it, you're
Speaker 6: getting a piece of that block. Eventually it's going to
Speaker 6: be completely empty.
Speaker 2: Rights, it's a limited resource that eventually understand that.
Speaker 1: But it's just a bunch of digital data, correct, Yep,
Speaker 1: that's all it is, pretty much all right? So what
Speaker 1: where's the value in it? What? What makes it worth me?
Speaker 1: Trading a bitcoin for a new F one fifty fully
Speaker 1: loaded with leather and vibrating seats.
Speaker 2: Well, see, here's the thing. What is the intrinsic value
Speaker 2: of anything except what the actual value that's agreed upon? Right?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 2: Even even the US dollar, what is its value except
Speaker 2: for what we agree it's worth.
Speaker 1: All right, But let's say I corner the market and
Speaker 1: I get all the bitcoin? What have I got? I
Speaker 1: got a block of digital data that's not going to
Speaker 1: buy me squat.
Speaker 2: Well, you can't corner the market because there is literally
Speaker 2: a million bitcoin that nobody can get. Okay, there's that?
Speaker 2: What's that? Because it's actually sitting Yeah, there's literally a
Speaker 2: million bitcoin that nobody can get. It's sitting in a
Speaker 2: digital wallet that's been locked off since it was invented.
Speaker 2: Number one.
Speaker 1: If somebody finds a way to hack that wallet, they
Speaker 1: can get it and they.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that wallet a wallet, and he can't get into it,
Speaker 6: and if he could, he'd be like a billionaire. Now
Speaker 6: he's pretty upset.
Speaker 1: How would he be a billionaire? Though? Where who's gonna
Speaker 1: Who's going to give him a billion dollars for this
Speaker 1: little block of a million bits of data? The million
Speaker 1: nothing more than zeros and ones? Where's the That's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying.
Speaker 2: The million bit coins right now?
Speaker 1: Done? Yeah, well, if if it's out there at the
Speaker 1: market can be cornered. Look, I, once you corner the market,
Speaker 1: what have you got? You've got nothing? So I don't understand.
Speaker 1: How is their value behind it?
Speaker 2: Well again, how is their value behind anything? But there
Speaker 2: is all right. There's an interesting documentary I was watching
Speaker 2: earlier today on this This is why I brought it
Speaker 2: up anyway, and it's about the guy who allegedly invented it,
Speaker 2: who has now disappeared, by the way, it's a Toshi
Speaker 2: or whatever his name is Japanese name, I can't remember
Speaker 2: it off the top of my head. But the guy
Speaker 2: who allegedly invented it, right, who created the code that
Speaker 2: this thing is based on, disappeared with this locked wallet,
Speaker 2: and Jimmy, he'd actually be a trillionaire right now if
Speaker 2: he unlocked that that wallet.
Speaker 1: How could he be a traded everyone?
Speaker 2: Because these things are worth well yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6: Anything.
Speaker 2: But there you go. Why is a piece of why
Speaker 2: is a paper dollar?
Speaker 6: And a time before the Biden administration, there was never
Speaker 6: not even one billion dollars of currency in circulation. Yeah,
Speaker 6: Now Biden doubled the amount of currency in circulation and
Speaker 6: that's why it seems like everything costs twice as much,
Speaker 6: because twice as much cash chasing exact less goods, not
Speaker 6: even the same goods.
Speaker 1: That's the difference. Though, How is it if I walk
Speaker 1: into the store with ten dollars cash, I can buy
Speaker 1: ten dollars worth of goods no matter where the store is,
Speaker 1: as long as they accept us dollars now, and I'm
Speaker 1: not getting it behind the hole we went off the
Speaker 1: gold standard crap and all that. I got ten bucks
Speaker 1: in my pocket, I can go buy ten dollars worth
Speaker 1: of goods. I have ten dollars worth of bitcoin. How
Speaker 1: am I going to buy something with it?
Speaker 2: Well, if a place, what am I giving you?
Speaker 1: I'm giving you some bits, yep, some data, bits that
Speaker 1: are transferring over. But value wise, there's nothing. It's not
Speaker 1: accepted everywhere. Some people don't even know it exists. What
Speaker 1: gives it the value? Now? If this guy says, okay,
Speaker 1: I'll give you what's the equivalent of ten dollars of
Speaker 1: apples for your ten dollars a bitcoin? Okay, it gives
Speaker 1: me the apples. I send him the data. What's he
Speaker 1: going to do with that data? He's going to find
Speaker 1: somebody else that wants that data. Right, But in the
Speaker 1: end run, no matter how much money has been paid,
Speaker 1: I'll get or goods have been exchanged for that little
Speaker 1: chunk of data. In the end, where am I cashing
Speaker 1: in that data to get what it's worth. It's changed
Speaker 1: hands so many times and people have said, oh, wait,
Speaker 1: I'll trade up.
Speaker 2: He's going to.
Speaker 1: Give you something that's worth one hundred and fifty thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: I'm going to give you something that's worth three hundred
Speaker 1: thousand dollars. Hey, what are you going to give me?
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you three hundred thousand dollars cash.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But that's like the majority of exchange be beat
Speaker 2: because most people don't even.
Speaker 1: Like, can't my goods for those bits of mount It.
Speaker 6: Just got trouble. That's what you was doing. Eh, you
Speaker 6: go to that asset, that treatment guy, and he's got
Speaker 6: like an exchange and other people got the States exactly.
Speaker 1: But these guys are playing on a market with real
Speaker 1: money buying little bits of data that are worthless. I
Speaker 1: don't get it.
Speaker 6: And there's like no regulation. There's no regulation that I
Speaker 6: know of in the United States?
Speaker 4: Is there no?
Speaker 2: That's the thing with bitcoin, there is none. But of
Speaker 2: course the US is looking at now maybe introducing their
Speaker 2: own digital currency right where it's just exclusively digital.
Speaker 1: Huh okay, well, all right, when bitcoin was started? How
Speaker 1: many bits are there in existence? How many were created
Speaker 1: in that big block? And you're talking about Jimmy, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm not into that stuff.
Speaker 2: Hey, I'm not deep into it either. Billion. It might
Speaker 2: be just it might be like ten million. Let's just
Speaker 2: say there's ten million.
Speaker 1: All right, ten million? All right, there's ten million chunks
Speaker 1: out there.
Speaker 2: That's ten million coins.
Speaker 1: Is what is worth? What seventy thousand for a bit coin?
Speaker 2: For one coin? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I want seventy thousand dollars for this one
Speaker 1: bitcoin I've got. Where do I go to get that
Speaker 1: seventy thousand dollars?
Speaker 2: You can go to it worth that.
Speaker 1: You can go to an exchange, okay, and the exchange
Speaker 1: is going to give me seventy thousand dollars and I'm
Speaker 1: going to give them my one little piece of a
Speaker 1: little chunk of.
Speaker 2: Data, yeah, minus their fee or whatever. But yeah, that's
Speaker 2: how it works. But it's just like if you want
Speaker 2: to buy something from overseas and you got to give
Speaker 2: dollars and they only take euro.
Speaker 1: Dollars coming from But where's the seventy thousand dollars coming?
Speaker 2: But where does it come from? Anyway? Okay, you want
Speaker 2: to buy something from England, right, and you got to
Speaker 2: use euros or you got to use you know, great
Speaker 2: British pound, right, and you don't have that, you have dollars,
Speaker 2: so you make a PayPal exchange. Look, I'm going to
Speaker 2: pay you. What's that.
Speaker 1: There's a conversion factor, right.
Speaker 2: And they charge you for that conversion. And that's what
Speaker 2: these people are doing. Same thing except one thing. There's
Speaker 2: no central bank. It's just the blockchain.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, Well.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you that.
Speaker 1: I said, no, you're paying for a conversion. But like
Speaker 1: when I was in Switzerland, I could go over there
Speaker 1: and get my ATM and take out a certain amount
Speaker 1: of money and it would pay me in Swiss frames.
Speaker 1: There was no charge for a conversion. Okay, it was
Speaker 1: worth a certain amount in Swiss frames or euros however
Speaker 1: I wanted to get it. So there is a conversion
Speaker 1: factor there. But that is a monetary system and a
Speaker 1: monetary system working in conjunction. Where is the monetary system
Speaker 1: behind the bitcoin that makes it worth seventy thousand dollars
Speaker 1: a bitcoin.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there is. That's the thing. It's not there. There
Speaker 2: is no standardized thing. It's just the exchanges that make
Speaker 2: it possible based on the value. You see. It's just
Speaker 2: like when you bring an ounce of silver, I.
Speaker 1: Have an exchanged. Wait a minute, I have an exchange. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I've got and we said, oh, okay, there's ten
Speaker 1: million bitcoins out there. All right, I've got nine million,
Speaker 1: nine hundred nine to nine thousand and nine a nine bitcoins.
Speaker 1: There's one dollar worth of bitcoin left out there, one
Speaker 1: out of ten million. Okay, and I get it. Now,
Speaker 1: who's going to give me ten million or whatever? The
Speaker 1: value is seventy thousand dollars times ten million, who's going
Speaker 1: to give you that?
Speaker 2: Well, that's that's the other thing about it. Then, if
Speaker 2: you actually cornered it worthless, So yeah, if you cornered
Speaker 2: it like that, it would become worthless. You're right, it
Speaker 2: would become exactly worthless. But then again, if you owned
Speaker 2: all of the dollars that were in existence, right, and
Speaker 2: there were no dollars in existence, and you had all
Speaker 2: the physical money, that would also become worthless.
Speaker 1: It's only because I I turn it into several other
Speaker 1: different currencies at the same time. They keep it in circulation.
Speaker 1: Bitcoins aren't circulated.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but see it's it's more complex than this. They
Speaker 2: are circulated. They are spread out all over place, and
Speaker 2: every ten minutes.
Speaker 1: I just don't understand people that are killing themselves to
Speaker 1: find a piece of data that's actually worth nothing. The
Speaker 1: data is not even there. It's just ones and zeros
Speaker 1: passing through the internet.
Speaker 2: Well, it's a little more complex than that. There is
Speaker 2: only it's not endless. You could just create it out
Speaker 2: of nothing. You have to be able to find it.
Speaker 2: It's not mining. This stuff is not as simple as
Speaker 2: they try and make it sound. But anyway, look, I'm
Speaker 2: not an expert on this. I can't adequately explain this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, when I go mining, let's see, I've got
Speaker 1: my super bank and computers looked up. I've made a
Speaker 1: deal with Duke Power to get my power loaded down
Speaker 1: at two hundred thousand volts to my own step down transformer,
Speaker 1: so I can run my mining operation. Where am I mining?
Speaker 1: What is it that I'm mining? Where am I going
Speaker 1: to look for these bitcoints?
Speaker 2: Where you're mining Internet data.
Speaker 1: Okay, so it's hidden in all the data that's on
Speaker 1: the internet somewhere apparently. Okay, so we're talking about a
Speaker 1: couple ones and zeros which make a bitcoin mm hm.
Speaker 2: But they're very specific. It's not just you know, ones
Speaker 2: and zeros randomly.
Speaker 1: I understand that. I mean, it's it's a thing making
Speaker 1: this coin that's out there stuck somewhere. Okay, right once,
Speaker 1: I'm you know, there's I don't understand the value behind
Speaker 1: it to make people want to go out there. Okay,
Speaker 1: it's a novel, big thing. Oh, I've got fifty thousand bitcoins.
Speaker 1: Oh great? How much did it cost you to get them?
Speaker 1: Just in the cost of electricity and everything else to
Speaker 1: be able to find these things? Yeah, oh I got
Speaker 1: probably two million tied up in it. Okay, Well, you
Speaker 1: just wasted two million dollars because what are you gonna
Speaker 1: do with the damn data that you just found? What
Speaker 1: are you gonna do with it? Oh, I'm gonna take
Speaker 1: it to an exchange. For how much they're gonna give
Speaker 1: you for it? Well, I don't know, it depends on
Speaker 1: how much they have not enough for it.
Speaker 2: Okay, But here's the thing. Theoretically, you could acquire a
Speaker 2: whole bunch of a country's currency in a bank account,
Speaker 2: you got tons of it, and then that currency collapses,
Speaker 2: it's now worthless. It can happen, Yeah, and it happens.
Speaker 2: So what I'm saying is that theoretically, it seems like
Speaker 2: it's not that much different than anything else, except you
Speaker 2: don't have an institution that's trying to back it up.
Speaker 2: That's the difference. Other than that, I gotta tell you,
Speaker 2: I got a hard time under This is why I
Speaker 2: don't take it. People have asked me over here, you
Speaker 2: need to take bitcoin, you need to I'm not taking
Speaker 2: this crap. I don't know what to do with it,
Speaker 2: and I have no possible idea.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: Look, if I can't take it down to a store
Speaker 2: literally physically and just you know, exchange it for goods immediately,
Speaker 2: I don't want it. I mean seriously. So that's me.
Speaker 2: But look, other people have different views on this, and
Speaker 2: apparently they do, because otherwise why would it be worth
Speaker 2: what did you say, seventy thousand now for one coin?
Speaker 1: I don't know what is a bitcoin worth? Let me
Speaker 1: look it up.
Speaker 2: I don't know. But like I said, I was watching
Speaker 2: the documentary on it earlier, and it was just amazing
Speaker 2: to me how this stuff got created in the first place.
Speaker 2: But yeah, let's see what is bitcoin worth today. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna take a look myself while I'm talking to you here.
Speaker 2: Holy crap. Really, it looks to me like sixty eight thousand,
Speaker 2: three hundred and sixty nine dollars. That's one coin. Now,
Speaker 2: most people that you know, anybody I've ever known, never
Speaker 2: had more than a coin. And the thing is, I mean,
Speaker 2: I got offered this stuff at eighty bucks a coin,
Speaker 2: which wasn't bad at the time. So if I would
Speaker 2: have been smart and grabbed it and held on to
Speaker 2: it through all the crashes and everything, I'd have money.
Speaker 2: You know, well, it.
Speaker 1: Would, well, you'd have money until you go to turn
Speaker 1: it in and try to get money for it, and
Speaker 1: then you're gonna find out the value is a lot
Speaker 1: different depending on how much the guy that's paying you
Speaker 1: for it has.
Speaker 2: Well, most of the time people have been able to
Speaker 2: exchange it for decent amounts. And you remember that whole
Speaker 2: Silk Road thing that went on with the whole you know,
Speaker 2: the drugs on the internet and everything. You remember that
Speaker 2: tons of transactions were made there through bitcoin, so people
Speaker 2: got value directly. They got heroin and everything, and we
Speaker 2: mailed to them from all over the world.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but what did the guy do with the bitcoin
Speaker 1: on the other end, Hey, I don't know. It's a blow.
Speaker 1: And he's got these fancy little digital coins. I guess
Speaker 1: he can do what with Well.
Speaker 2: But that's the thing is if you take in digital anything,
Speaker 2: then you got to turn it over for something else
Speaker 2: later for value again. I mean it's if you have
Speaker 2: a bank account again, like I said, loaded with any
Speaker 2: kind of currency, and that currency changes value on you,
Speaker 2: and then it does you lose money overnight? You know,
Speaker 2: if you got eight million if.
Speaker 1: They're staying that. But we're talking about currencies. Bitcoin is
Speaker 1: a Bitcoin is not a currency. Bitcoin is guys out
Speaker 1: there playing it's I guess it's the ultimate video game
Speaker 1: is to find your big coin.
Speaker 2: Well that's the way I see it. But I get corrected.
Speaker 1: Find something, go, don't find somebody's gonna pay you money
Speaker 1: for something that you have all of.
Speaker 2: But see b Pete again, Why is silver worth anything? Right?
Speaker 2: Because it's what people agree to give you for it. Right,
Speaker 2: Spy price on silver right now? Like thirty dollars an ounce, right,
Speaker 2: but well, you know in a month it could be
Speaker 2: twenty dollars and then the same silver you have in
Speaker 2: your hand right now could be worth less in a month,
Speaker 2: or it could be worth more. Right.
Speaker 1: Oh, I know. I went through this whole argument with
Speaker 1: my ex girlfriend when I was over in Switzerland, you know,
Speaker 1: when things were starting to look bad.
Speaker 2: I'm not arguing. I'm just trying to answer you and
Speaker 2: all that. Yeah, I mean, I'm not arguing.
Speaker 1: But I mean that was for comment. She says, well,
Speaker 1: you know I'm gonna go out and buy silver. I said, okay,
Speaker 1: when the balloon goes up and you know, shit hits
Speaker 1: the fan, what are you gonna do? Well, I'll have
Speaker 1: silver I can barter with. I said, okay, you're gonna
Speaker 1: have silver. So you're gonna have this nice little case
Speaker 1: with all your silver in it. You're gonna go around,
Speaker 1: you want to buy a loaf of bread, and the
Speaker 1: guy's gonna say, see, I got breadfast sale. And you're
Speaker 1: gonna say, okay, well how much do you want for it?
Speaker 1: He's gonna say, how much you got? I got all
Speaker 1: this silver that's worth thirty thousand dollars. Okay, well, that's
Speaker 1: what the loaf is gonna cost you. In fact, as
Speaker 1: I reach out and take my gun from under the counter,
Speaker 1: because the ships hit the fan and there ain't no
Speaker 1: law in town, you can just give me your silver.
Speaker 1: How about that? That's what it's gonna come down to.
Speaker 2: Well, so I was asking her.
Speaker 1: You know, you're you're thinking that this is gonna save
Speaker 1: you in apocalyptic times. How well in that case whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But in that case where you got no law
Speaker 2: and you and nobody cares and everybody's just robbing each other,
Speaker 2: I mean, what what good you know, it's like in
Speaker 2: a zombie apocalypse? What good is you know, a billion
Speaker 2: dollars worth of cash going to do you nothing? You
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, unless somebody's still going to take the.
Speaker 1: Money, right, you'd be better off learning how to grow weeds,
Speaker 1: harvest weak yep, process weak yep, make flour, make your
Speaker 1: own bread.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because then you would have something that has a
Speaker 2: direct tangible value. True growing vegetables will be worth a
Speaker 2: lot more. You know, right?
Speaker 7: What is deny in?
Speaker 1: Uh? What was it? The guy in the movie The
Speaker 1: Big Short said that the future was in scenes. You
Speaker 1: can get yourself some good scenes.
Speaker 2: Well, in a way, that's true, isn't it. You can
Speaker 2: always grow something tangible out of that seat, anything you
Speaker 2: got on a market, on a computer in a digital
Speaker 2: form or whatever. Look at the computers can all go
Speaker 2: down tomorrow one solar flare does it? Boom? Well gone?
Speaker 2: Now what whatever cash you got, that's it stuff? Yeah,
Speaker 2: but you know if all your aluminum foil covered stuff
Speaker 2: is fine. But yet the banks don't have anything on
Speaker 2: record anymore because it's all been wiped out, then what
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Okay, good luck with that.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. That said is how this whole
Speaker 1: bitcoin thing sounds to me. I do not understand the
Speaker 1: value behind.
Speaker 2: But that's what I'm But that's what I'm getting at here.
Speaker 2: Is that really honestly, if you think about it, anything
Speaker 2: can collapse, disappear, and drop to nothing overnight, depending on circumstances. Okay,
Speaker 2: if if our government turns around and says tomorrow, you
Speaker 2: know what, the United States is closing up business, We're
Speaker 2: done and we're gonna come back into a couple of
Speaker 2: days with a whole new government. So everybody hang on
Speaker 2: and uh, you know, you can keep exchanging your money
Speaker 2: if you want, but we're gonna have to come up
Speaker 2: with new everything. We'll be back next week. Okay, what
Speaker 2: are you gonna do? You know what am I going
Speaker 2: to do? Yeah?
Speaker 6: We figure it out. Breaking up, gets in there, I'm there.
Speaker 2: What was that, jim.
Speaker 1: Kamala? She's still give up?
Speaker 6: There was the Kamala in about a year after the
Speaker 6: stock market, after the four tech stocks to keep the
Speaker 6: whole thing float finally crashed. She's gonna get up there,
Speaker 6: start blabbing about how this is a period of time
Speaker 6: in history and she loves her lawn and the dollar
Speaker 6: is not gonna be worth toilet.
Speaker 2: But see, that's the thing, though, is if the Federal
Speaker 2: Reserve says, you know what, the dollar is now worthless,
Speaker 2: you know, deal with it. What are you gonna do?
Speaker 6: We'll forget them. It's up to the people, see a follow.
Speaker 1: See.
Speaker 2: But that's the thing is, at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: it has to do with what people believe the damn
Speaker 2: thing is worth. Okay, the digital representation of it, that's
Speaker 2: what it has to do with. At the end of
Speaker 2: the day, that's what it is. Even with Okay, just
Speaker 2: like Jimmy said, though they doubled the amount of currency printed.
Speaker 2: Thus the inflation happened. That's what happened. Because you print
Speaker 2: new currency, what does it do. It steals from the
Speaker 2: existing currency supply the value. That's what it does if
Speaker 2: you don't regulate it properly. Okay, And that's what happens
Speaker 2: in all of these cases. You know why did Cyprus collapse?
Speaker 2: Because they kept printing money and they had nothing coming in.
Speaker 2: So eventually they had to turn around and say, you
Speaker 2: know what, our currency isn't worth the paper it's printed on.
Speaker 1: Even it's the Greeks, they'll worry about it later. That's
Speaker 1: why that's why Cyprus collapsed. Well, okay, worried about it.
Speaker 1: I got about four thousand series of video stocks, So
Speaker 1: I'm good.
Speaker 2: Okay, see you in a better mood yet, Jimmy, Uh.
Speaker 6: Not really, No, we'll bring on the next guess.
Speaker 2: I'm trying. I'm trying, but nobody's hanging on the line
Speaker 2: right now. Actually, but anybody wants to call in three
Speaker 2: one nine, five two seven five zero one six, you
Speaker 2: know what we'll do. Let me put Jimmy on hold
Speaker 2: and maybe the commercials will put them in a better mood. Uh.
Speaker 2: And you know, one of you guys can join us.
Speaker 1: Jimmy, Jimmy, do you have early voting up there where
Speaker 1: you are?
Speaker 2: Oh? Wait, let me put him back on. I put
Speaker 2: him on hold. Here we go, Here we go, I
Speaker 2: put him back on.
Speaker 6: Do you have early voting, Jimmy, yes, oh yeah. We're
Speaker 6: in midst of voting season.
Speaker 1: But it hasn't started. Our started yesterday, so as you're
Speaker 1: started up there.
Speaker 6: Oh yes, they mail me and he emailed me.
Speaker 1: Have you voted yet? No?
Speaker 6: I just vote normal.
Speaker 1: Here you are.
Speaker 2: Now he's waiting, he's gonna go. He's gonna go on
Speaker 2: November fifth.
Speaker 1: No, I think you should go now and go ahead
Speaker 1: and cast his vote, and he knows it's in the
Speaker 1: bank and he can start being a little happier. At
Speaker 1: least he's done his part. He can look at everybody
Speaker 1: else and said, I already got money and suckers.
Speaker 2: Well, there you go, Jimmy. There there's the suggestion from
Speaker 2: b Pete. But like I said, I'm gonna go ahead
Speaker 2: and put you on hold, and I'm gonna turn around
Speaker 2: and take a break here on the Friday Night Live
Speaker 2: Show and hopefully you guys will join us at three
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Speaker 2: So this will be the second and final segment of
Speaker 2: the Friday Night open Mic. And uh, I wanted to
Speaker 2: look in the chat room really quick, kind of fun
Speaker 2: chase shifters in there. Uh, we're in the post truth
Speaker 2: post meaning post reality reality. Yeah, yeah, that works. Try
Speaker 2: giving the guy in the parks toilet for your dope.
Speaker 2: I don't know what that means anyways, Bitcoin for your dope?
Speaker 2: All right? Anyway, Pete, we we did talk to Jimmy James.
Speaker 2: We tried to solve bitcoin, but I got no solutions
Speaker 2: for you. Man. Bitcoin is confusing to me, really is.
Speaker 2: But is it really any different though from anything else
Speaker 2: that gets digitally represented though? I mean seriously think about it.
Speaker 2: I mean, what happens if your stuff just disappears?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: And this is what the worry is with this CDDC stuff,
Speaker 2: where if the government has.
Speaker 14: Just what was the big thing of a couple of
Speaker 14: what was in the past couple of years, these non
Speaker 14: non tangible assets or something work like artwork that people
Speaker 14: were selling online.
Speaker 2: Oh, the NFTs, the non fungible tokens or whatever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, what the hell? People have too much time
Speaker 1: on our hands to come up with crap like that. Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna invent a coin and you're going to go
Speaker 1: mine it.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to tell you that there's really none
Speaker 1: out there, but I've got six and there worth fifteen
Speaker 1: billion dollars a piece, So y'all have at it. It's
Speaker 1: like they sit around and make this stuff up for
Speaker 1: what as a like a hobby, like like something to
Speaker 1: do when they're supposed to be at work doing something,
Speaker 1: but they're not doing what they should be doing in
Speaker 1: their mining Bitcoin, well what was hilarious. It is weird.
Speaker 2: Bitcoin is the stronger one. There was like a hundred
Speaker 2: other coins that came out too. Don't forget Elon Musk
Speaker 2: was trying to push the doge coin, right, uh, but
Speaker 2: other people, Yeah, other people have pushed other coins, and
Speaker 2: these other coins for a couple of years ran pretty rampant,
Speaker 2: and it was like, oh, well these aren't, you know,
Speaker 2: as expensive as Bitcoin. It's a lot easier. And people
Speaker 2: started getting into those and then they all like tanked
Speaker 2: all of them, everything except Bitcoin tanked, and it was hilarious.
Speaker 2: It was like, well, it's all the same kind of principle,
Speaker 2: and it's like yeah, but for some reason it doesn't
Speaker 2: work out the same, does it. And all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: like I said, in one day, as soon as one
Speaker 2: person abandoned their coin or whatever, they all collapse, except
Speaker 2: the bitcoin, which was funny too. And like I said,
Speaker 2: now these different countries are experimenting with it, and yet
Speaker 2: this was a bad idea when the Chinese, you know,
Speaker 2: the the communist Chinese, did it, and they were monitoring
Speaker 2: everything you were doing because they could. And that's what's
Speaker 2: going to happen with these centralized you know, digital currencies.
Speaker 1: They don't even need a currency in this country with monscule.
Speaker 2: Well, everything is virtually digital at this point. Think about
Speaker 2: how often you actually handle cash, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: compared to how much money you actually end up putting
Speaker 2: out for everything, how much of it is actually cashing
Speaker 2: your hand.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hadn't. I hadn't taken out a car loan. Well,
Speaker 1: I've taken out a first roal loan. I used my
Speaker 1: cars collateral and a lot of times because I was
Speaker 1: out of town on the road, you know, I haven't
Speaker 1: I pay with everything on a debit card pretty much
Speaker 1: every day. I haven't written a check in the years. Right.
Speaker 1: But and especially with the mail service, because you know,
Speaker 1: when you get your bill, you take your bill, you
Speaker 1: go ahead and fill out your check, put it back
Speaker 1: in the mail. Mail is so slow that nine times
Speaker 1: out of ten, you get your bill, you put your
Speaker 1: payment in the mail the very next day. It doesn't
Speaker 1: get there in time anymore. Because companies are now taking
Speaker 1: longer to bill you. You can't rely on the postal service
Speaker 1: to deliver your payment before it is, you know, before
Speaker 1: the due date. It's just like you're in town paying
Speaker 1: the water bill. But you know, it's just strange that
Speaker 1: the handling cash. Well, this one company that I had
Speaker 1: my loan with, I stopped in one of their offices
Speaker 1: that was in the town where I was working. I said, hey,
Speaker 1: my car payments doing two days. I need to go
Speaker 1: and pay it. Oh, I'm sorry, we don't. We don't
Speaker 1: take cash. What we don't take cash? I said, so
Speaker 1: what do you what do you take? We'll take a check,
Speaker 1: I said, dude, I haven't written the check in two years.
Speaker 1: I only have a check book. I said, can you
Speaker 1: do it digital? Well, we don't have the process here
Speaker 1: to do it on your credit card or your debit card.
Speaker 1: I said, so you won't take my cash? Oh no,
Speaker 1: I said, well, why suddenly do you not take it? Well,
Speaker 1: we could get robbed, and if we have cash on
Speaker 1: the premises, this way, we don't have to worry about it.
Speaker 1: I thought, now, I can't wait for the first guy
Speaker 1: that's gonna rob the one financial center you know in
Speaker 1: the strip law and go bust it, do the doors
Speaker 1: with his gun out, his mask on, give you all
Speaker 1: your cash. We don't have any, sir. I just can't
Speaker 1: wait for that to happen.
Speaker 2: Well it has, but it just killed me.
Speaker 1: That cash was no good anymore. You know I had
Speaker 1: to do. I had to go down to a CBS
Speaker 1: and they sent me an electronic bill, and I went
Speaker 1: to CBS and through their system paid the bill. Yeah, yep,
Speaker 1: just to give them their money that they wanted. I
Speaker 1: almost left the cash on the counter and walked out,
Speaker 1: but I thought, no, if they're not going to give
Speaker 1: me a receipt, I'm not gonna leave three hundred fifty
Speaker 1: bucks sitting on.
Speaker 2: The counter now because that'll just disappear. But we had
Speaker 2: we had that problem in Dallas where it was like, well, look,
Speaker 2: we can't take your you know, your kind of card.
Speaker 1: And those assholes and they were just being protected as fucks,
Speaker 1: that's all.
Speaker 2: And then they're like, you were Renzo Hotel, but we
Speaker 2: also don't take care good work. We don't take cash.
Speaker 2: I'm like, what how do you not take cash? I
Speaker 2: was confused.
Speaker 1: Wait, they wouldn't take They wouldn't take cash for the room, right.
Speaker 1: They would take cash for anything else. You could go
Speaker 1: to the restaurant and get a meal with nine people
Speaker 1: and run up a thousand dollars bill. Take cash, yep.
Speaker 1: You could buy the red poole in the fancy little
Speaker 1: cool right next to the front deskim five bucks a pop.
Speaker 1: Can't take cash, yep. They wouldn't take cash for the room, right, Amazing.
Speaker 2: I didn't know what to do. It was like, what
Speaker 2: do you do with this? I went outside smoked. I
Speaker 2: just was like, I don't even know what to say.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think.
Speaker 1: I'll make the guy feel bad enough that he finally
Speaker 1: had to call a second boss and go, look, we're
Speaker 1: about to lose thousand dollars sale right here. You might
Speaker 1: want to take the guy's cash.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, even though and they they really didn't
Speaker 2: want to take it. They did not want it, and
Speaker 2: then they wouldn't take it even. The funny thing was
Speaker 2: we had to get somebody else to put up a
Speaker 2: card because they were like, well, what about incidentals? You
Speaker 2: know if you guys, you know, like, what are we
Speaker 2: gonna do? What do you think we're gonna damage the room?
Speaker 1: Looks like, dude, I brought all my liquor, booze, I
Speaker 1: got a hooker coming. Everything's taken care of. There will
Speaker 1: be no incidentals. That doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: I offered to give him another five hundred in cash
Speaker 1: just as a deposit on the incidentals. He wouldn't take it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they wouldn't take a cash deposit even right. It
Speaker 2: was like no unless it's see. And that's the weird
Speaker 2: thing is that now we're in age where in some
Speaker 2: places you can't even use cash.
Speaker 1: That's crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so everything is digital already, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: I mean, where do you go that you can't use
Speaker 2: things digit outside of what your weed guy? And to
Speaker 2: be honest with you, there's lots of workarounds for the
Speaker 2: weed guy. Now you know what I'm saying. You can
Speaker 2: apple pay your weed guy, It don't matter. What's that.
Speaker 1: How do you make change for a bitcoin?
Speaker 2: Well you don't. You just you give them a certain
Speaker 2: percentage of a coin that is based on what you know.
Speaker 2: That's sixty thou I can.
Speaker 1: Cut a bitcoin down to percentages.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. No, you don't give out a
Speaker 2: whole coin. No, no, no, see sixty eight thousand. I'm
Speaker 2: not going to give you sixty eight thousand dollars coin
Speaker 2: for you know, a pair of pants. I mean, that's
Speaker 2: not a weed.
Speaker 1: That's a lot of weeds.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well exactly. So you only give him twenty bucks
Speaker 2: or forty bucks or a hundred bucks or whatever. And yeah,
Speaker 2: but that's how much comes out of the coin. So
Speaker 2: it's only a percentage comes out of the coin.
Speaker 1: The coin you divide the coin.
Speaker 2: Look, I don't understand that process either, but that's what happens.
Speaker 2: Most people don't even have a whole coin that I know,
Speaker 2: even if they have some, they're.
Speaker 1: Like, and I thought you could wait a way, we're
Speaker 1: eaven it. I thought you could only find them as
Speaker 1: one coin.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, not necessarily you have a bitcoin.
Speaker 2: You find parts of bitcoins, not even a whole coin.
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, I'm doing all this mining and I'm
Speaker 1: only gonna get like two cents worth out of a
Speaker 1: bitcoin sometimes, Jesus Christ, is this not the most stupid
Speaker 1: video game you've ever heard of?
Speaker 2: Look, and I've seen people exchange all kinds of weird stuff.
Speaker 2: Like the first time I saw this was in the
Speaker 2: late nineties, and people had those online games where you
Speaker 2: actually mind resources, like you literally mind gold and stuff
Speaker 2: like that. Right, So people would go on eBay and say, look,
Speaker 2: I got twenty thousand gold in this video game. I'll
Speaker 2: sell it to you on eBay for you know, one
Speaker 2: hundred bucks, and people would buy it. And then they
Speaker 2: would say, okay, now we'll go and we'll meet and
Speaker 2: we'll transfer it and you give me your hundred bucks.
Speaker 2: And people did it for this theoretical, non existent, non
Speaker 2: corporeal thing, And like I said, it's not it's not
Speaker 2: that strange. People exchange things for digital representations and stuff
Speaker 2: all the time, you know. Matter of fact, one of
Speaker 2: the things they ran bitcoin through for a little bit
Speaker 2: was the magic card trade thing that they had online
Speaker 2: where you know, you could only acquire magic cards through
Speaker 2: online trades and online purchases, and you couldn't manufacture a
Speaker 2: magic card. You had to buy it, so they had values,
Speaker 2: and there were people paying hundreds of dollars for basically,
Speaker 2: you know, a usable token in a game. So I'm
Speaker 2: just saying people are paid money, you know, real money
Speaker 2: for this digital representation of this, that the third thing
Speaker 2: an acts in a in a game, you know. Okay,
Speaker 2: Well I got an axe that's hard to get, so
Speaker 2: I'm gonna sell it. People paid hundreds of dollars for it. Anyway,
Speaker 2: we got another caller, and we still got Jimmy James on. Hold.
Speaker 2: We'll get Jimmy back on. Maybe this one will help
Speaker 2: his mood. And let's see. It looks like eight six
Speaker 2: five area code, and uh, you're live, So what's on
Speaker 2: your mind?
Speaker 4: Play forward baby a while over me and screamed, this
Speaker 4: is Diddy Catcher.
Speaker 2: Oh boy, here's a familiar voice. I haven't heard from
Speaker 2: you in a while. Man, how you doing? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Last week, Man Graves and Jason Barker weave down the
Speaker 4: stream that was went a little bit longer than what
Speaker 4: I side. It was going to him An's calin last week,
Speaker 4: but I looked up and it's done already, you know,
Speaker 4: almost ten o'clock. Right, Well, what's Jimmy.
Speaker 2: Oh, he's just mad in general. I mean we were
Speaker 2: talking about bitcoin and all kinds of crazy stuff, and
Speaker 2: I'm I'm fed up with the culture wars, I'm fed
Speaker 2: up with the election, so you know. And I was
Speaker 2: telling people that Swanson doesn't even want to talk to
Speaker 2: anybody right now because he's fed up with all these
Speaker 2: people online and what they're reacting to. And I don't know,
Speaker 2: Jimmy just said, I'm in a bad mood now and
Speaker 2: that was it. So he asked us to put them
Speaker 2: on hold. So I did.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, it's best not, you know, let this
Speaker 4: bullshit pit you in a bad mood, because in about
Speaker 4: eighteen nineteen days, one of them is gonna, you know,
Speaker 4: be the winner. I don't know who I was going
Speaker 4: to agree on it. How much bitching and crying, you know,
Speaker 4: it's gonna half a night of the fact. I kind
Speaker 4: of hope this is going to turn into like one
Speaker 4: of these so Kyle Trucker protests and these convoys. I
Speaker 4: hope it's one of them things that it's like, you know, oh,
Speaker 4: it's a big deal, right It until the day and
Speaker 4: the next day and the day after that, it's like
Speaker 4: three quarters of them talking about something else and we're
Speaker 4: not gonna talk about that on them.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I hope that's.
Speaker 4: How this goes.
Speaker 2: So you're hoping it just evaporates.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, they take the bath. And I mean
Speaker 4: even the most hardcore supporter of either one of them
Speaker 4: at this point has to be wore out.
Speaker 2: But you would think so, You would think so. But
Speaker 2: you know what, I predict this. I predict it no
Speaker 2: matter who wins, the other side is going to bitch
Speaker 2: for the next couple of months. So it doesn't matter.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: One side Wait a minute, one side if they lose,
Speaker 1: will bitch for a couple of months. If the other
Speaker 1: side loses, you're gonna be hearing them bitch for four years,
Speaker 1: trust me.
Speaker 2: Well, to me, it's equal.
Speaker 4: But okay, okay.
Speaker 15: I add to that is, you know, if Trump doesn't win,
Speaker 15: we're going to sit here and listen to the rest
Speaker 15: of our lives of how great it would have been
Speaker 15: if he won.
Speaker 4: That's the reason. One of the biggest reasons why you
Speaker 4: know I hope he wins is then that way, you
Speaker 4: know it'll be twofold number one won't have to listen
Speaker 4: to that shit. And number two the excuses, which I
Speaker 4: hope he does great. I'll be the first one to say, yeah,
Speaker 4: see didn't get on this issue, blah blah blah. But
Speaker 4: churches are you know, he's still the same line, flip
Speaker 4: flopping the second shit he's always been. But you know,
Speaker 4: ater about six months, you know, the four D chest
Speaker 4: and all that, it just ain't gonna fly. And so
Speaker 4: I hope he actually does. But I don't know about
Speaker 4: the rest of him. But you know, the last three
Speaker 4: and a half years of you know, Obama, that bastards,
Speaker 4: you know, still running all that guy, I just you know,
Speaker 4: I'm just sick of hearing that, you know, and this
Speaker 4: a live dollar streight. Well, I mean, you know, I
Speaker 4: even got friends that kind of sees a lot of
Speaker 4: this stuff about the Republican stuff the way you know,
Speaker 4: most of us has kind of woke up to it.
Speaker 4: But they still they come right back, you know, beginmmick.
Speaker 4: Is that hard?
Speaker 5: You know, the programming and the propaganda.
Speaker 4: You know, even if they complain about a Republican or
Speaker 4: about Trump, then just just saying as you say, yeah,
Speaker 4: that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: They're right back, and they get in defense.
Speaker 1: Though.
Speaker 4: I hate to use the word, you know, the art
Speaker 4: word here, but you know that it's made people really
Speaker 4: but I'll just be glad for it to be over this.
Speaker 2: Well, that's the only thing that's gonna make me happy
Speaker 2: is at least it'll be done, you know. That's that's
Speaker 2: what I'm waiting on. Just all right, fine, it's done,
Speaker 2: you know, but.
Speaker 1: It's not this. I hate to burst the bubble. Regardless
Speaker 1: of who wins, it ain't done. We're gonna be now
Speaker 1: that this is the this is the course that these
Speaker 1: people that call themselves our representatives have taken. We are
Speaker 1: never going to hear the end of it. I think
Speaker 1: we're two we are two partisans at this point. To
Speaker 1: come back, it's the lines are drawn and people on
Speaker 1: both sides have had enough of the other side that
Speaker 1: it's just going to be perpetual mayhem from here on out.
Speaker 2: Well, eventually, I'm hoping that people get exhausted, you know,
Speaker 2: from the I mean, how long can you hold this
Speaker 2: up of this, you know, being pissing and moaning and
Speaker 2: not just eventually saying, you know what, we got to
Speaker 2: accept the way it went and let's get on with things.
Speaker 2: I mean, really, I don't know. Maybe it's just me.
Speaker 2: I'm wanting things to be like, you know, like they
Speaker 2: used to be, where it was like, Okay, look the
Speaker 2: election's done. Now let's get on with life, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. But it never ends. It never ends.
Speaker 1: It doesn't. It doesn't end because you've got the left
Speaker 1: side of things that are going to sit there and
Speaker 1: perpet only bitch and moan. Even when they're in power.
Speaker 1: They're gonna be bitching and moaning about the other side
Speaker 1: and on the Republican side of it, until we get
Speaker 1: rid of some certain people at the higher levels and
Speaker 1: tell them pack your bags and hit the road, don't
Speaker 1: come back. We're gonna deal with the same damn problems
Speaker 1: on the right side of things. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of people in the middle. They're sick
Speaker 1: and tired of it from both sides. It's back to
Speaker 1: the point now. I don't not understand how the hell.
Speaker 2: And a friend of.
Speaker 1: Mine from Kentucky, I gave him a load of craft
Speaker 1: the other day over Mitch McConnell, and I happen to
Speaker 1: make a comment if you had voted that back in
Speaker 1: the office so many times he's in trench and he's
Speaker 1: one of the biggest damp roadblocks we've got of getting
Speaker 1: anything done until you get rid of him and Pelosi
Speaker 1: and Nattler and the rest of these knuckleheaded ass hats.
Speaker 1: It's perpetual. We are never gonna get anything settled. It's
Speaker 1: never gonna be there's never gonna be a truce call
Speaker 1: between the two sides now. They're just too divided. There's
Speaker 1: nothing to bring them together.
Speaker 2: That's good and depressing anyway.
Speaker 4: Anything that they're gonna go together on is usually gonna
Speaker 4: be something that's going to be detrimental to the rest
Speaker 4: of us. Are riots or whatever, I know stuff And
Speaker 4: like for.
Speaker 5: People out there that likes to, you know, throw Ryan
Speaker 5: all around and people that you know, bitches about Mitch McConnell.
Speaker 4: And you know, I'm one.
Speaker 5: Up my bitches as much as anybody.
Speaker 4: But when people says, you know, McConnell's screwed Trump, McConnell
Speaker 4: bus McConnell back, well, you know Trump did upon his
Speaker 4: wife is the Transportation secretary. So you know got to
Speaker 4: kind of you know, keep that in uh, put that
Speaker 4: in the focus and think about that too. But you
Speaker 4: know every time that you ever point anything out like
Speaker 4: that about chopping the swamp off instead of graining, and
Speaker 4: all you get is just spin lies, you know, asking
Speaker 4: questions to answer question because they have nothing to say.
Speaker 1: This is something I don't understand about Trump. Trump would
Speaker 1: have had a lot less problems in his four years
Speaker 1: that he was in and he had some different people
Speaker 1: advising him. Some of the advice that they gave him
Speaker 1: on certain individuals came back and bit him in the ass.
Speaker 1: Christopher ray Pad of the FBI is one of them.
Speaker 1: You know, why would you appoint that man? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I would think Trump, with his tun there and his
Speaker 1: business acumen that he supposedly has, would find a better
Speaker 1: set of damn advisors. And I don't know who advised
Speaker 1: him the last time he was in, but they ended
Speaker 1: up hurting him in the long run with the people
Speaker 1: that they were advising for him to put into certain places.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's ridiculous now you look at the number
Speaker 1: of people that have come back after the fact. Oh,
Speaker 1: Trump was a regular mediac and he was this and.
Speaker 2: He was that.
Speaker 1: No, you're just disgruntled because you weren't there at the
Speaker 1: end of it. Because he fired your asked to shut up,
Speaker 1: go sit down, as we need to start doing.
Speaker 4: What Some of them just trying to run from him
Speaker 4: because it didn't turn out, you know, surpositibly, and you
Speaker 4: know they're wanting a no job and they see that's
Speaker 4: more a lot of them, you know what that comes.
Speaker 1: The kind that's the problem. You know, when when Trump
Speaker 1: goes for advice from these guys, he's dealing with people
Speaker 1: that have been in the swamp so long. They're going
Speaker 1: to recommend other people that have been in the swamp
Speaker 1: so long that while Trump's trying to drain the swamp,
Speaker 1: he needs to look at his old fist fond and
Speaker 1: get rid of some of the crap he brought in there.
Speaker 4: But I just don't see how anybody made advice I own,
Speaker 4: you know, Bill of Rights issues verse second for its amendment.
Speaker 4: You know, he shipped on every one of them, just
Speaker 4: as soon as he could said well I set forward fetcher.
Speaker 4: You know, we've beat the part about what he's you know,
Speaker 4: guns and the second.
Speaker 2: Men of today.
Speaker 4: Look at everybody just started getting banned off YouTube. All
Speaker 4: that stuff happened under him. I don't think that would
Speaker 4: have happened under Jeb or Hillary. I think it'd been
Speaker 4: too many people raising hell to where that it meant so.
Speaker 1: But you know, every way happened now it would have.
Speaker 1: I mean, she played her cards the other day when
Speaker 1: she made the comment that, you know, people need to
Speaker 1: be held either criminally or civilly liable for misinformation, and
Speaker 1: I thought, God, coming out of your mouth, woman, you
Speaker 1: just said that you had the balls to sit there
Speaker 1: and say that to the public after the shit you
Speaker 1: pulled for two and a half years over your Russian dossier.
Speaker 1: My God, that's why I'm saying we need to bring
Speaker 1: back public dirt clotting. We start finding these people when
Speaker 1: they come out of these damn offices and they exit
Speaker 1: their limos, and smack them in the head with a
Speaker 1: couple of dirt clods and let them know, we know
Speaker 1: you're fucking up, and we're gonna hold you accountable. Until
Speaker 1: we start holding people accountable for the ship that they're pulling,
Speaker 1: this is going to go on forever, and it's gonna
Speaker 1: get worse.
Speaker 2: No that I cannot with.
Speaker 4: I don't think you even have to do anything like that,
Speaker 4: as much as just keep going out when they're lying.
Speaker 4: You know what they're lying about just don't let it
Speaker 4: just go over your head and you know, keep moving.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, we have that now. And that was something
Speaker 1: I brought up the other week when we were talking
Speaker 1: about it. You have the local TV station playing political
Speaker 1: ads where a certain person is claiming that another person
Speaker 1: is going to do this, this, and this, and yet
Speaker 1: that corporate entity that owns that station, that's affiliated with
Speaker 1: it on their news channels has pointed out that no,
Speaker 1: you didn't do this, this, and this, and yet these
Speaker 1: guys are getting rich taking money for political ads that
Speaker 1: they know are a fucking line and they put them
Speaker 1: out there on rotation, back to back all day during
Speaker 1: election season. We ought to be able to start pulling
Speaker 1: licenses for some of these broadcast channels for some of
Speaker 1: the ship that they've been putting on TV that are
Speaker 1: blatant this information.
Speaker 4: Hey, they I got a question to you, see that
Speaker 4: I wanted to ash for the last two weeks.
Speaker 5: But here I am speaking.
Speaker 4: Of, you know, alleged blatant lives and so called blatant
Speaker 4: lives and everything.
Speaker 5: What have you been here?
Speaker 4: And I know you're over more in the eastern part
Speaker 4: of the state, but what have you been hearing about
Speaker 4: over North Carolina. Garis about some of this famous have
Speaker 4: you been hearing? You know, have you heard anything from
Speaker 4: actual people that you know they wouldn't lie or they
Speaker 4: wouldn't knowingly be carrying a line what's going on on
Speaker 4: the ground over there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've heard a lot of it, and I mean
Speaker 1: some of us been secondhand, but I talk to people
Speaker 1: that have actually gone up there. In fact, our company
Speaker 1: is getting together a list of people to go up
Speaker 1: there to start working with the debris removal and inspecting
Speaker 1: all of that, you know, overseeing the paperwork oven and
Speaker 1: what gets carted off and where it is taken. But FEMA, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they've been claiming. FEMA's got twelve hundred people on the
Speaker 1: ground in western North Carolina. They do, and it's little
Speaker 1: groups of three and four assigned to a vehicle, and
Speaker 1: they you know, they they got into the areas. They're
Speaker 1: not offering much because there's not much they can do.
Speaker 1: Engineering firms across the state right now are doing assessments.
Speaker 1: Construction companies are doing assessments. We've got this many of
Speaker 1: this type of equipment we can mobilize for this. We've
Speaker 1: got this many personnel, we've got this we can do.
Speaker 1: Trying to get it all together is the problem now. FEMA,
Speaker 1: they were in contact with the governor when things first started,
Speaker 1: but they did no pre planning whatsoever. Everybody knew this story.
Speaker 1: One was heading towards the mountains. They didn't do anything
Speaker 1: to prestage anything, and then when it happened, it was
Speaker 1: really so devastating. They've not seen anything like this before.
Speaker 1: There are areas completely cut off from civilization that you
Speaker 1: have to got miles, you have to hike in to
Speaker 1: be able to get to these places. The locals started.
Speaker 1: What happened was when in the first few days when
Speaker 1: FEMA started showing up, some of the locals had already
Speaker 1: been in operations. They had been receiving donations, they had
Speaker 1: been coordinating with search and rescue and getting people out
Speaker 1: of these backwood areas. FEMA came in. Certain individuals with
Speaker 1: FEMA made certain comments that made the locals think, you
Speaker 1: guys are trying to come and take over, and so
Speaker 1: the gossip mill took off, and you're talking about an
Speaker 1: area that people it was. People are communicating on radios
Speaker 1: and CEB radios right now because they don't have the
Speaker 1: ability to make cell phone calls. You had things like
Speaker 1: the government Trump organized with Musk to go in and
Speaker 1: set up starlink connections so at least getting satellite connections
Speaker 1: to these people so work could get out that people
Speaker 1: were safe. We need this, these people need to be evacuated.
Speaker 1: They have health issues, blah blah blah. They started their
Speaker 1: own communications networks between walkie talkies and CD radios, so
Speaker 1: when FEMA got in, they were already on the back foot.
Speaker 1: They weren't prepared. They didn't have anything to bring except
Speaker 1: the promise on TV of a seven and fifty dollars check. Okay,
Speaker 1: thanks for my check. Now, where the fuck am I
Speaker 1: going to cash it? They're in a bank for three
Speaker 1: hours in any direction that I can get to. A
Speaker 1: lot of help there, guys. In the meantime, you had
Speaker 1: groups like Samaritans, Purse was It, the Oh is It?
Speaker 1: The Redneck Navy Occasion, Navy cares like that had dealt
Speaker 1: with this before. They were there within a day of
Speaker 1: the storm clearing. In fact, I think so Americans first
Speaker 1: was on the ground the afternoon after the storm blew through,
Speaker 1: and they started setting up their networks to be able
Speaker 1: to take care of people. They had a National Guard helicopter.
Speaker 1: I think it was. I don't think it was from Brag.
Speaker 1: It may have been, I'm not sure. I'm sorry for
Speaker 1: livery that comes into an area where they've got donations
Speaker 1: set up. It's a drop off collection point and from
Speaker 1: there they were sending out supplies by four wheeler and
Speaker 1: four to fours to get to some of these back areas.
Speaker 1: This helicopter comes in, throws a rotal wash on everything,
Speaker 1: blows donations and supplies all over the place, and takes
Speaker 1: off and flies off. Well that pissed off the local
Speaker 1: Well then you start so then you start hearing more
Speaker 1: stories and it's just become a conglomeration of.
Speaker 6: One.
Speaker 1: Nobody knew that it no. I don't why people couldn't
Speaker 1: imagine it could be this catastrophic. We're having that much
Speaker 1: rain in that area, but they weren't prepared for it.
Speaker 1: They don't know how to get around it. They it's
Speaker 1: taken a while to be able for the state to
Speaker 1: even get there. Necessity's in place to be able to
Speaker 1: go up and fix the blowouts on I forty Asheville
Speaker 1: was completely cut off there for a while. So slowly
Speaker 1: they're starting to get back in it. But to be honest,
Speaker 1: Seema blew it when they didn't do any preparation at all,
Speaker 1: and then when they got there, they weren't prepared for
Speaker 1: what was on the ground, which was basically devastation. It's
Speaker 1: amazing the devastation in that area. I don't see how
Speaker 1: I'm surprised there's not more people dead than there are.
Speaker 1: That's they won't find that some of them they won't
Speaker 1: ever find. When you get buried under a ten foot
Speaker 1: wall of mud, it takes a while before things show.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you that we're having to go through now.
Speaker 1: You know, there's thirty foot piles of debris up against
Speaker 1: these bridge aputments and in coves, and and once everything
Speaker 1: came down the mountain, imagine a twenty foot foot wall
Speaker 1: of water and mud and the velocity that that gets
Speaker 1: on a slope dropping from forty five hundred feet to
Speaker 1: thirty five hundred feet in less than a mile. I mean,
Speaker 1: you think about the velocity of a twenty foot wall
Speaker 1: of mud and water coming down. It's gonna take anything out.
Speaker 2: That's bath pretty much.
Speaker 1: Creeks that that measured three feet across the bottom and
Speaker 1: might have a four or five foot bank are now
Speaker 1: out of its bank with a water depth of probably
Speaker 1: twenty feet one hundred feet wide, taking everything in his path.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just really it's devastation that you could
Speaker 1: only describe as biblical. There you go in proportion.
Speaker 2: So anyway, even with the crazy news story about you know,
Speaker 2: maybe there was just a photo op as opposed to
Speaker 2: you know, did Kamala just do a photo op and
Speaker 2: not send out supplies and all that? I mean, I've
Speaker 2: gotten all sorts of mixing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he did the photo wop and Seema didn't send
Speaker 1: out the supplies. Two totally different things, right, Seema dropped
Speaker 1: the ball on this one, plain and simple and for them.
Speaker 1: And that's another thing. My Orcas comes out, No, no, no,
Speaker 1: not my orcas. Yes, head hoole. Lands Security comes out
Speaker 1: and says, now that FEMA's under them. You know, we're
Speaker 1: running out of money in this program. We're going to
Speaker 1: have to have some more money. And then you got
Speaker 1: locals here going to wait a minute, what happened all
Speaker 1: the money that dark taxes are paid into it. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, we had to support the migrants and the
Speaker 1: elite in certain areas out of these funds. Oh wait
Speaker 1: a minute. You spend our money on the illegals, and
Speaker 1: then you have the media come out and say, oh, no,
Speaker 1: that's not the case. Well, if that's not the case,
Speaker 1: why that the head of Homeland Security get up there
Speaker 1: and say that was the case, the man that they
Speaker 1: did this, and every major media company comes out there
Speaker 1: and says, oh no, no, that's not the case. That's
Speaker 1: a busious rumor, that's being a QAnon thing, that's not
Speaker 1: what's happening. Well, yeah, that is what's happening. I got
Speaker 1: an article here that I read the other day where
Speaker 1: two guys actually went to the female web page and
Speaker 1: broke out their budgets and showed the money. It's amazing
Speaker 1: how many millions we have spent one and some odd
Speaker 1: million on illegals coming across the border, and now we
Speaker 1: don't have money to pay for disasters. It's a fact.
Speaker 1: It's on their website. Well, but you've got every major
Speaker 1: media outlet out there saying that's not the case.
Speaker 2: Well, we're totally about time. Well, we're totally out of
Speaker 2: time for this Friday night. And thanks to Harlan, Thanks
Speaker 2: for Jimmy James for calling in, Thanks to my co
Speaker 2: host Vpete, and thank you for listening. We're all done,
Speaker 2: and next week, like I said, Larry Hancock, Robert Grodin
Speaker 2: and hopefully some more surprises on the show. Plus we'll
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