WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.360 --> 00:00:07.240 It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBS, Boston's new radio. 2 00:00:07.960 --> 00:00:09.279 Thanks very much, Nicole. 3 00:00:09.640 --> 00:00:12.439 This is Dan Ray and I am here every Monday 4 00:00:12.439 --> 00:00:15.240 through Friday night, with some exceptions, but pretty much every 5 00:00:15.240 --> 00:00:20.879 Monday through Friday night, along with my producer partner, Rob Brooks. 6 00:00:20.920 --> 00:00:23.879 He is back in the control room at Broadcasts Central. 7 00:00:23.960 --> 00:00:25.920 So during the first hour, as you know, we are 8 00:00:25.960 --> 00:00:30.199 back to regularly schedule program after our election special last night, 9 00:00:30.600 --> 00:00:33.840 and we'll talk with four guests during this hour about 10 00:00:34.359 --> 00:00:38.079 good activities and events or developments or trends that you 11 00:00:38.200 --> 00:00:40.439 need to be aware of. Let me just take a 12 00:00:40.479 --> 00:00:43.280 quick moment and remind you that we will be talking 13 00:00:43.320 --> 00:00:47.719 about the stunning results of this election. This I had 14 00:00:47.719 --> 00:00:51.399 said that I was hoping for a decisive election victory. 15 00:00:53.679 --> 00:00:55.920 I felt that it would be better. 16 00:00:55.640 --> 00:00:58.759 For the country if one of these candidates won decisively, 17 00:00:58.840 --> 00:01:00.960 and I think one did, so we're going to. 18 00:01:01.000 --> 00:01:01.640 Talk about that. 19 00:01:01.719 --> 00:01:05.400 We're going to talk with Dave Paleologus Polster, I think, 20 00:01:05.519 --> 00:01:07.799 one of the best pollsters and someone who we've relied 21 00:01:07.840 --> 00:01:10.239 on for years. During the nine o'clock hour, you can 22 00:01:10.280 --> 00:01:14.000 call in and ask questions. I think we'll break it 23 00:01:14.040 --> 00:01:17.120 down for you We're still looking at the numbers. There 24 00:01:17.120 --> 00:01:19.120 are still a couple of states that haven't been called. 25 00:01:19.200 --> 00:01:23.439 But this is an extraordinary election. The Vice President of 26 00:01:23.480 --> 00:01:28.799 the United States, Kamala Harris, did extend her congratulations to 27 00:01:29.359 --> 00:01:33.439 President elect Trump and also delivered what I guess would 28 00:01:33.439 --> 00:01:37.319 be characterized as her official concession speech this afternoon at 29 00:01:37.599 --> 00:01:40.159 at Howard University in Washington, d C. School from when 30 00:01:40.239 --> 00:01:42.879 she graduated. So we'll get to all of that. We 31 00:01:42.959 --> 00:01:45.079 have four hours tonight plenty to do. So if you 32 00:01:45.159 --> 00:01:48.920 have thoughts on the election, on the results, whether you're happy, unhappy, 33 00:01:49.040 --> 00:01:51.319 or whatever. I do think it's time for us to 34 00:01:52.040 --> 00:01:54.359 put some of this behind us, some of the language, 35 00:01:54.400 --> 00:01:57.159 and try to look at each other not so much 36 00:01:57.280 --> 00:02:00.760 as enemies, but people who have a different opinion. But 37 00:02:00.799 --> 00:02:02.359 I'll get to all of that. I just wanted to 38 00:02:02.439 --> 00:02:05.480 set the table and get that out before we started. 39 00:02:05.840 --> 00:02:10.520 So tonight we are going to start off with Bill Pennington. 40 00:02:11.159 --> 00:02:14.800 Bill is going to tell us about an event, a 41 00:02:14.840 --> 00:02:17.800 couple of events coming up this weekend the group that 42 00:02:17.840 --> 00:02:20.280 he represents. He was the founder of a group called 43 00:02:20.400 --> 00:02:25.599 Run for the Troops. Bill Pennington, Welcome back to Night's Side. Obviously, 44 00:02:25.680 --> 00:02:27.840 the title of the group run for the troops, I 45 00:02:27.840 --> 00:02:31.000 think is self explanatory, but let's let's drill down a 46 00:02:31.039 --> 00:02:32.960 little bit here, and what are we talking about coming 47 00:02:33.039 --> 00:02:33.960 up in the next week or so. 48 00:02:35.240 --> 00:02:38.800 Well, Friday night at an Indian Ridge country Club, it's 49 00:02:39.120 --> 00:02:43.240 actually a celebration dinner. We honor our veterans and recognize 50 00:02:43.240 --> 00:02:48.680 them and just give thanks and give these the civilians 51 00:02:48.719 --> 00:02:52.280 a chance to meet and chat with you know, the 52 00:02:52.360 --> 00:02:56.879 one two. Because of their sacrifice, we have our safety 53 00:02:56.879 --> 00:02:59.960 and our freedoms. It's a win win and we expect 54 00:03:00.560 --> 00:03:04.199 probably seventy five veterans and Bobby half the crowd will 55 00:03:04.199 --> 00:03:06.280 be veterans, so it'll be a great night. And then 56 00:03:06.360 --> 00:03:09.919 on Sunday we do a couple events. We call it 57 00:03:10.280 --> 00:03:14.639 Forever Young and it's targeted to grandparents and their grandchildren. 58 00:03:14.759 --> 00:03:17.680 One time around the track, real simple, we don't care 59 00:03:17.759 --> 00:03:19.800 how you get around. You can push grandma, you can 60 00:03:19.800 --> 00:03:23.240 push your grandchild, you can walk, you can run, and 61 00:03:23.280 --> 00:03:26.479 it's a good way from camaraderie, gets the kids off 62 00:03:26.479 --> 00:03:29.759 the cell phone and actually interact with their grandparents or 63 00:03:29.800 --> 00:03:31.879 even their parents. And then we do the big event, 64 00:03:32.400 --> 00:03:35.639 the five k walk and run at nine o'clock in between, 65 00:03:35.680 --> 00:03:38.240 we do a big veterans ceremony. Probably one hundred and 66 00:03:38.280 --> 00:03:42.360 fifty vests participate on that and bagpipes, color guard and 67 00:03:42.879 --> 00:03:44.520 this year, let's do this. 68 00:03:44.639 --> 00:03:45.400 Let's do this, Bill. 69 00:03:45.479 --> 00:03:47.560 I don't want to overwhelm people out there because I 70 00:03:47.560 --> 00:03:49.680 feel they have to be like that, be a stenographer 71 00:03:49.680 --> 00:03:53.280 to get all this information. Let's take each of these events. 72 00:03:53.280 --> 00:03:56.319 It's part of this upcoming weekend. So let's break them 73 00:03:56.360 --> 00:03:59.159 down one at a time. You said the dinner. I 74 00:03:59.199 --> 00:04:01.919 think you said the Indian Ridge Country Club. 75 00:04:01.680 --> 00:04:04.719 Correct, yep, and andover mass yeah. 76 00:04:04.759 --> 00:04:08.840 Sure, okay, So how can folks, assuming that they'd like 77 00:04:08.919 --> 00:04:11.520 to go to the dinner, are they tickets still available? 78 00:04:11.560 --> 00:04:13.800 What's the what's the deal with with that? 79 00:04:15.000 --> 00:04:17.560 Well, we can always squeeze a few more in, But 80 00:04:18.160 --> 00:04:20.720 if they can just go to our website, it's Run 81 00:04:20.759 --> 00:04:24.519 for the Troops m A dot org. The all the 82 00:04:24.560 --> 00:04:28.279 events are listed on there and they can readier right 83 00:04:28.319 --> 00:04:32.079 now on there, or they can email me at W 84 00:04:32.560 --> 00:04:36.879 Bill Pennington at gmail dot com and we'll we'll squeeze in. 85 00:04:37.160 --> 00:04:38.759 Okay, we'll we'll we'll do all of that. 86 00:04:38.839 --> 00:04:40.720 I just want to what I'd like to do is 87 00:04:40.800 --> 00:04:45.240 I have a fairly linear mindset. 88 00:04:45.360 --> 00:04:48.160 I like to talk about one thing, so let's not 89 00:04:48.279 --> 00:04:50.120 mix it out of here. Let's just keep rolling here. 90 00:04:50.560 --> 00:04:53.040 We'll get it all in. There's no need to rush here, okay. 91 00:04:53.079 --> 00:04:57.199 So run for the troops data Friday night, what time 92 00:04:57.399 --> 00:04:58.360 six o'clock. 93 00:04:58.040 --> 00:05:01.720 Seven o'clock, six o'clo six o'clock. 94 00:05:01.959 --> 00:05:05.079 Indian Ridge Country Club in andover for people who live 95 00:05:05.160 --> 00:05:08.240 up north of the city. Everyone knows where that is, 96 00:05:08.759 --> 00:05:12.959 and they can buy tickets and uh and make reservations 97 00:05:13.040 --> 00:05:18.079 and enjoy the evening. And again, give me the website 98 00:05:18.079 --> 00:05:20.959 where those tickets are available. Let's just focus on the website. 99 00:05:21.800 --> 00:05:23.920 Okay, it's run for the troops. 100 00:05:24.480 --> 00:05:24.560 Ma. 101 00:05:26.279 --> 00:05:28.759 Well, let me try it again. Run for the Troops 102 00:05:28.800 --> 00:05:31.240 five k m dot org. 103 00:05:32.279 --> 00:05:34.920 Okay, so that website is for everything. Run for the 104 00:05:34.959 --> 00:05:41.639 troops the number five km dot org. 105 00:05:41.720 --> 00:05:44.240 Okay. That's so we got that one taken care of. 106 00:05:44.279 --> 00:05:49.199 Now, this giant where people can can bring their children, 107 00:05:49.240 --> 00:05:52.680 their grandchildren, their grandparents and do a lap around a track. 108 00:05:54.240 --> 00:05:57.600 Which school is that going to be held out? That's Saturday, right. 109 00:05:58.680 --> 00:05:59.319 That's Sunday? 110 00:05:59.399 --> 00:06:00.639 No, that Sunday. 111 00:06:00.680 --> 00:06:03.759 Okay, that's goods. See where we're making progress here, Bill, 112 00:06:03.879 --> 00:06:06.040 just hang with me. Okay, we're gonna get this all done. 113 00:06:06.160 --> 00:06:13.000 So that's on Sunday, and Sunday is the tenth, if 114 00:06:13.040 --> 00:06:15.560 I'm looking at my calendar correctly, November tenth. 115 00:06:15.720 --> 00:06:16.920 Where is that event? 116 00:06:17.959 --> 00:06:22.360 Okay? It's at thirty six Bartless Street, and it's behind 117 00:06:22.439 --> 00:06:26.360 the Town Offices, which is connected to the Doherty School, 118 00:06:27.879 --> 00:06:31.120 which town and over Massachusetts. 119 00:06:31.160 --> 00:06:34.319 Okay, that's great. Okay, So it's right near the Dougherty School, 120 00:06:35.040 --> 00:06:37.600 and that's free. People can just participate. 121 00:06:37.680 --> 00:06:41.920 Correct, We're just charging ten dollars to cover the cost 122 00:06:41.959 --> 00:06:44.120 of metals and refreshments. 123 00:06:44.720 --> 00:06:49.680 Okay, fair enough. And then you'll also have on Sunday. 124 00:06:51.040 --> 00:06:53.079 Was it two road races, a five K and a 125 00:06:53.120 --> 00:06:53.519 ten k. 126 00:06:54.600 --> 00:06:58.519 No, it's a five K that starts at nine o'clock 127 00:06:58.560 --> 00:07:01.800 and in between. I know I'm gonna confusia, but there's 128 00:07:01.839 --> 00:07:05.079 a better, big veteran ceremony in between eight and nine 129 00:07:05.120 --> 00:07:06.439 o'clock that we do too. 130 00:07:06.759 --> 00:07:09.079 That's okay. I'm a little confused, but that's okay. 131 00:07:09.160 --> 00:07:12.600 So the first thing in terms of sequence is the 132 00:07:12.720 --> 00:07:18.120 walk around the track yep, and then the veterans ceremony yep, 133 00:07:18.480 --> 00:07:19.480 and then the five K. 134 00:07:20.639 --> 00:07:21.720 That's exactly right. 135 00:07:22.360 --> 00:07:24.319 Now, we got it. Now, we got said the dinners. 136 00:07:24.319 --> 00:07:29.079 Friday night, nothing on Saturday, Sunday, Dorothy School, Dougherty School 137 00:07:29.319 --> 00:07:35.160 in Endover. Start off with the nice leisurely walk around 138 00:07:35.160 --> 00:07:39.319 the track. Everyone's everyone's invited. You asked for a ten 139 00:07:39.360 --> 00:07:43.759 dollar donation, and then you have a ceremony honoring veterans, 140 00:07:44.120 --> 00:07:47.560 and then the five k. Okay, I think we got it, Bill, 141 00:07:48.560 --> 00:07:51.800 and again I appreciate it very much. Give the website 142 00:07:51.839 --> 00:07:54.279 one more time and I'll let you go. Website one 143 00:07:54.319 --> 00:07:54.759 more time. 144 00:07:54.800 --> 00:08:01.040 Bill, it's run for the troops five K and dot. 145 00:08:01.040 --> 00:08:02.839 Org perfect, perfect, Well. 146 00:08:02.879 --> 00:08:05.319 I hope some of our listeners up in the whole, 147 00:08:05.439 --> 00:08:08.160 you know, surrounding community up there north of Boston and 148 00:08:08.399 --> 00:08:12.000 over and environments participate. I have no idea what the 149 00:08:12.000 --> 00:08:14.439 weather forecast looks like, because I didn't watch the weather tonight, 150 00:08:14.519 --> 00:08:16.759 but I hope you get weather like today and you'll 151 00:08:16.759 --> 00:08:19.120 have a great event. Thanks Bill, I appreciate what you do. 152 00:08:19.160 --> 00:08:23.120 It's a great organization, run for the troops. Thanks Bill. 153 00:08:23.360 --> 00:08:25.439 Thank you there, You're right, You're welcome. 154 00:08:25.519 --> 00:08:26.839 Okay, we come back. 155 00:08:27.199 --> 00:08:29.120 Good to ask the question is there really such a 156 00:08:29.160 --> 00:08:30.519 thing as a healthy soda? 157 00:08:31.040 --> 00:08:31.240 Now? 158 00:08:31.519 --> 00:08:33.480 Apparently there's a lot of brands out there that are 159 00:08:33.519 --> 00:08:37.759 marketing some soda as healthy. That almost sounds oxymoronic. We're 160 00:08:37.759 --> 00:08:41.120 going to talk with a guest, Marion Nessel. She wrote 161 00:08:41.120 --> 00:08:44.279 a book on the soda industry and is the emeritus 162 00:08:44.320 --> 00:08:47.720 professor of Nutrition, Food Studies, and Public Health at NYU, 163 00:08:47.840 --> 00:08:48.960 New York University. 164 00:08:49.399 --> 00:08:50.120 Stick with us. 165 00:08:50.200 --> 00:08:53.879 We'll be back with Marion Nessel, and maybe we'll talk 166 00:08:53.919 --> 00:08:57.000 about whatever soda you have in your refrigerator. Back on Nightside. 167 00:08:57.039 --> 00:08:59.399 My name is Dan Raith, the night after the twenty 168 00:08:59.480 --> 00:09:03.639 twenty four election. We have a lot of conversation coming 169 00:09:03.720 --> 00:09:06.240 up between nine and twelve, but we have three more guests, 170 00:09:06.240 --> 00:09:09.080 special guests to talk to in this hour. Please stay 171 00:09:09.120 --> 00:09:11.240 with us here on Nightside. We're gonna have a great 172 00:09:11.279 --> 00:09:11.840 show tonight. 173 00:09:12.600 --> 00:09:15.759 Now back to Dan Ray live from the window World 174 00:09:15.879 --> 00:09:19.000 night Side Studios. I'm WBZ News Radio. 175 00:09:20.480 --> 00:09:22.320 I'd like to welcome Mary Nessel. 176 00:09:22.799 --> 00:09:25.720 She's written a book on the soda industry and as 177 00:09:25.759 --> 00:09:29.399 an emeritus professor at of Nutrition, Food Studies and Public 178 00:09:29.440 --> 00:09:33.480 Health at New York University. A great college professor, Nessel. 179 00:09:33.519 --> 00:09:34.000 How are you? 180 00:09:35.039 --> 00:09:37.320 I'm just fine, beautiful, love you. 181 00:09:37.879 --> 00:09:40.759 I love your last name. It reminds me of candy bars. 182 00:09:40.919 --> 00:09:46.279 I love that nestl nystl e uh oh. I know 183 00:09:46.679 --> 00:09:51.440 that you see you, professors, you anticipate questions. I was 184 00:09:51.480 --> 00:09:54.840 hoping for you. Okay, So the question is is there 185 00:09:54.879 --> 00:09:57.440 really such a thing as a healthy soda? Look, I've 186 00:09:57.440 --> 00:09:59.840 gotten rid of pepsi. I used to drink pepsi A 187 00:10:00.799 --> 00:10:03.279 I got rid of it. I realized forty one carbs 188 00:10:03.679 --> 00:10:06.519 in every pepsi Along the way. It helped me lose 189 00:10:06.559 --> 00:10:08.840 some weight and get much better shape. Smartest thing I 190 00:10:08.879 --> 00:10:11.840 did I drink. I drink water at my meals. Food 191 00:10:11.879 --> 00:10:14.759 tastes much better. But there are some brands out there 192 00:10:14.799 --> 00:10:18.519 that are marketing some sodas as healthy. Kind of sounds 193 00:10:18.519 --> 00:10:20.120 a little oxymoronic to me. 194 00:10:20.240 --> 00:10:25.600 A healthy soda, well, the first question is how much 195 00:10:25.679 --> 00:10:30.919 sugar does it have? The second question doesn't have artificial sweeteners. 196 00:10:31.200 --> 00:10:34.000 If it's water with a little fruit juice in it, 197 00:10:34.240 --> 00:10:37.080 I'm forish. Even if it's fish water. 198 00:10:38.759 --> 00:10:42.519 Even if it's what type of water? Just took a 199 00:10:43.039 --> 00:10:49.720 water fishy? I drink tap water with ice cubes and 200 00:10:49.759 --> 00:10:50.240 it's great. 201 00:10:50.399 --> 00:10:53.000 Maybe I throw a piece of lemon or a piece 202 00:10:53.039 --> 00:10:53.960 of lime in there. 203 00:10:53.799 --> 00:10:55.080 And I got all the flavoring. 204 00:10:55.200 --> 00:11:00.320 I want is the sodas out there that are now 205 00:11:00.360 --> 00:11:03.000 coming on the market, because that's what people want that 206 00:11:03.240 --> 00:11:07.240 actually are good quality. That you've done the studies, I 207 00:11:07.360 --> 00:11:09.480 haven't any that you'd recommend. 208 00:11:10.320 --> 00:11:12.919 Well, I'm just absolutely amazed when I go into a 209 00:11:13.000 --> 00:11:18.039 supermarket to see the numbers of bottled waters, fruit flavored, 210 00:11:18.440 --> 00:11:21.879 some of them sparkling, some of them with juice in them, 211 00:11:22.000 --> 00:11:26.159 very low in sugar. Many of them are not artificially sweetened. 212 00:11:26.200 --> 00:11:29.600 And I think you could find plenty of them. The 213 00:11:29.679 --> 00:11:33.320 question is whether it's sweet enough for you, and that 214 00:11:33.559 --> 00:11:37.519 we've gotten used to drinking really sweet drinks and that's 215 00:11:37.639 --> 00:11:40.840 not very good for our health. Unfortunately. 216 00:11:41.919 --> 00:11:44.559 I can tell you when I knocked off pepsis, and 217 00:11:44.639 --> 00:11:47.200 I used to be a pepsi guy. If I went 218 00:11:47.240 --> 00:11:51.000 to lunch with you, I'd have pepsi with I'd order 219 00:11:51.159 --> 00:11:53.000 a glass of ice water, but I wouldn't touch the 220 00:11:53.039 --> 00:11:55.399 ice water, and I'd have two or three pepsis. And 221 00:11:55.480 --> 00:11:57.240 all of a sudden, I realized what am I doing 222 00:11:57.240 --> 00:12:00.240 to myself. I'm in the gym working out. All I'm 223 00:12:00.240 --> 00:12:04.279 doing is throwing carbs down at lunchtime. Now you're never 224 00:12:04.320 --> 00:12:06.440 going to find me at lunch, and you'll never find 225 00:12:06.480 --> 00:12:08.519 me with a regular pepsi or a regular coke in 226 00:12:08.519 --> 00:12:08.879 my hand. 227 00:12:08.919 --> 00:12:10.320 I just I learned that. 228 00:12:10.440 --> 00:12:13.200 And once you learn it, and you and for a 229 00:12:13.240 --> 00:12:17.360 couple of weeks you get off it. You know, very 230 00:12:17.360 --> 00:12:20.480 easy habits to break. Have you ever done any study 231 00:12:20.600 --> 00:12:23.639 a study on how tough or how easy it is 232 00:12:23.679 --> 00:12:28.279 to get away from sweetened sodas compared to say, some 233 00:12:28.360 --> 00:12:31.240 of the other addictive activities that people have, whether it's 234 00:12:32.120 --> 00:12:35.639 chocolate bars or cigarettes' what's. 235 00:12:35.559 --> 00:12:38.759 The It depends on who you are, you know. The 236 00:12:39.480 --> 00:12:43.120 research on addiction says that about somewhere between ten and 237 00:12:43.120 --> 00:12:48.279 fifteen percent of people who have an addictive personality and 238 00:12:48.720 --> 00:12:51.919 they feel like they're addicted to sodas, they've got a 239 00:12:51.960 --> 00:12:54.639 real problem. I think for other people it's not a 240 00:12:54.679 --> 00:12:59.480 problem to lose them at all. And my first advice 241 00:12:59.600 --> 00:13:02.360 for any but who's trying to lose weight is drop 242 00:13:02.440 --> 00:13:06.279 the sugar sweetened beverages. Get rid of them. They're calories 243 00:13:06.320 --> 00:13:10.080 you don't need, they don't add nutrition in anything nutritious 244 00:13:10.200 --> 00:13:13.120 to your diet. Get rid of them. Number one thing 245 00:13:13.200 --> 00:13:15.399 to get rid of is the sugar sweetened beverages. 246 00:13:16.799 --> 00:13:18.200 Yeah. The other thing that. 247 00:13:20.000 --> 00:13:22.679 Is to me is interesting is that if you replace 248 00:13:22.759 --> 00:13:26.080 them with there's a lot of I love fruits, I 249 00:13:26.080 --> 00:13:31.279 love macintosh apples, green grapes, red grapes. They all have sugar. 250 00:13:32.320 --> 00:13:35.279 You know, you can help. You can get sugar through 251 00:13:35.360 --> 00:13:39.519 good sauces as opposed to twelve on soda cans. 252 00:13:40.320 --> 00:13:43.279 Well, but you don't get you don't get nearly as much, 253 00:13:43.320 --> 00:13:46.799 and you have fiber and other kinds of components with it. 254 00:13:46.799 --> 00:13:50.000 It takes a lot of grapes to add up to 255 00:13:50.039 --> 00:13:54.440 the sugar that's in a standard sugar sweetened beverage that 256 00:13:54.559 --> 00:13:57.879 might have thirty or forty grams of sugar in just 257 00:13:58.000 --> 00:14:04.279 one can. It's not the little ements that our problem. 258 00:14:04.399 --> 00:14:08.519 It's having this enormous amount of sugar in a liquid 259 00:14:08.600 --> 00:14:12.960 form that's absorbed very very quickly. It messes up your metabolism. 260 00:14:13.200 --> 00:14:14.279 It's not a good thing to. 261 00:14:14.279 --> 00:14:19.240 Do, no, no question. Now you've written a book on 262 00:14:19.320 --> 00:14:23.440 the soda industry. If that book is still available and 263 00:14:23.480 --> 00:14:26.320 people wanted to get a copy of it, can they 264 00:14:26.360 --> 00:14:28.000 go to Amazon? What can they do if they'd like 265 00:14:28.039 --> 00:14:29.039 to get a copy of the book. 266 00:14:29.240 --> 00:14:32.279 Yeah, I'm just order it from your bookstore. 267 00:14:31.840 --> 00:14:36.960 From some online source of Soda politics taking on big 268 00:14:36.960 --> 00:14:38.159 Soda and winning. 269 00:14:39.399 --> 00:14:43.080 So the title is Soda politics taking on big soda 270 00:14:43.480 --> 00:14:48.279 and winning winn Yeah, that's always good. 271 00:14:48.600 --> 00:14:51.000 As we found out last night, if you were a 272 00:14:51.000 --> 00:14:51.679 Trump supporter. 273 00:14:52.799 --> 00:14:56.360 But the point is, I'm assuming that you're not a 274 00:14:56.360 --> 00:15:00.000 big hit in the in the boardroom, the corporate boardroom 275 00:15:00.080 --> 00:15:01.039 of Pepsi or Coke. 276 00:15:02.279 --> 00:15:07.679 Oh, I probably not, although I've although I've met very 277 00:15:07.720 --> 00:15:11.840 high officials in those in those companies on various occasions. 278 00:15:12.080 --> 00:15:16.320 They've come to visit me in my office. They're very respectful, 279 00:15:18.360 --> 00:15:19.360 they're respectful. 280 00:15:20.799 --> 00:15:24.480 Are they doing the same thing if if if soda 281 00:15:24.559 --> 00:15:28.600 consumption you know again, you know, we'll call soda. What 282 00:15:28.639 --> 00:15:32.559 we mean obviously is Sprite and Nepsi and root Beer's 283 00:15:32.600 --> 00:15:37.480 and all those fans and stuff. Are they increasing the 284 00:15:37.519 --> 00:15:41.879 overseas market? When I travel, I see Pepsi and Coke 285 00:15:42.320 --> 00:15:46.200 wherever I go, it's it's available. I know that the 286 00:15:46.320 --> 00:15:51.480 cigarette companies export now a lot of cigarettes overseas. Uh. 287 00:15:51.720 --> 00:15:56.960 Well, the soda companies have a real problem because the 288 00:15:57.120 --> 00:16:01.519 peak year of soda consumption and the United States was 289 00:16:01.679 --> 00:16:05.480 nineteen ninety nine. That was a long time ago. And 290 00:16:05.519 --> 00:16:09.039 it's been going down steadily ever since. And so if 291 00:16:09.039 --> 00:16:11.759 you can't sell in the United States, you've got to 292 00:16:11.799 --> 00:16:18.759 sell someplace. And the particularly Co Cola developed a worldwide 293 00:16:18.840 --> 00:16:23.440 distribution system during the Second World War where they said 294 00:16:23.519 --> 00:16:28.120 they would supply Coca Cola to every soldier that the 295 00:16:28.240 --> 00:16:33.360 United States had deployed anywhere, and the government built bottling 296 00:16:33.519 --> 00:16:36.799 plants for them all over the world. So they sell 297 00:16:36.799 --> 00:16:41.679 it everywhere, and the you know, other people haven't learned 298 00:16:41.720 --> 00:16:46.440 the message about maybe too much sugar isn't good for you. 299 00:16:47.720 --> 00:16:50.799 So well, that's set up when you think about it, 300 00:16:50.840 --> 00:16:53.039 when all those troops from World War II came home. 301 00:16:53.200 --> 00:16:58.000 That's why pepsi and certainly Coca Cola was the beverage 302 00:16:58.039 --> 00:17:00.759 of choice. I'm sure in America that the fifties and 303 00:17:00.799 --> 00:17:02.200 sixties into the seventh. 304 00:17:02.279 --> 00:17:04.799 And that's why they were all smoking too, because the 305 00:17:04.839 --> 00:17:09.400 cigarettes were free. But you know, yeah, so things have 306 00:17:09.599 --> 00:17:14.839 changed and the you know, I'm not opposed to drinking 307 00:17:16.160 --> 00:17:18.839 and beverages. I just think this is something you have 308 00:17:18.880 --> 00:17:21.160 to do in very small amounts. 309 00:17:21.519 --> 00:17:27.319 What do they say everything in moderation, Professor, Professor Professor 310 00:17:27.359 --> 00:17:31.160 Meritis Marion Nessel, Thank you very much, for joining us tonight. 311 00:17:31.200 --> 00:17:32.799 Give us the name of the book one more time 312 00:17:32.799 --> 00:17:38.359 in case folks wants it. SOA Politics, Perfect Soda Politics, 313 00:17:38.599 --> 00:17:40.759 either on Amazon or at your bookstore. 314 00:17:40.799 --> 00:17:42.599 Thank you so much, Professor, enjoyed. 315 00:17:42.279 --> 00:17:44.119 Talking with you, my pleasure. 316 00:17:44.920 --> 00:17:46.039 Thanks. Have a great night. 317 00:17:46.240 --> 00:17:51.119 Soda Politics, taking on big Soda and winning by Professor 318 00:17:51.200 --> 00:17:53.440 Marion Nessel like the candy. 319 00:17:53.160 --> 00:17:54.359 Bar an E s t l E. 320 00:17:54.799 --> 00:17:56.440 All right, We're going to go back with a very 321 00:17:56.480 --> 00:18:03.079 interesting guest dealing with and the reason it's interesting. I've 322 00:18:03.240 --> 00:18:05.920 recently read about this how long can you stand on 323 00:18:05.920 --> 00:18:09.160 one foot? And the answer may predict your fall risk. 324 00:18:10.119 --> 00:18:12.039 I'm not sure I buy that. We're going to talk 325 00:18:12.079 --> 00:18:15.720 with doctor Kenton Kaufman. He's the senior author of the 326 00:18:15.759 --> 00:18:20.359 Mayo Clinic study and a musculo skeletal research professor at 327 00:18:20.400 --> 00:18:22.960 the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minnesota. 328 00:18:23.279 --> 00:18:26.119 I'm sure he knows a lot about this. I'm gonna be. 329 00:18:26.039 --> 00:18:28.839 Really interested in this conversation. I hope you will be 330 00:18:28.880 --> 00:18:31.079 as well. My name is Dan Raynge. Listening to Nightside 331 00:18:31.119 --> 00:18:33.880 and WBZ ten thirty and the Am dial here in Boston, 332 00:18:33.920 --> 00:18:37.079 Boston's news radio. You all can also can find us 333 00:18:37.119 --> 00:18:41.160 on the iHeart app pretty easily. Just download the iHeart 334 00:18:41.240 --> 00:18:43.680 Radio app. It's for free and you can listen to 335 00:18:43.759 --> 00:18:46.559 us literally anywhere in the world, any hour of the day. 336 00:18:46.599 --> 00:18:48.680 Back on Nightside right after the news break at the 337 00:18:48.680 --> 00:18:49.359 bottom of the hour. 338 00:18:50.559 --> 00:18:55.240 It's Nightside Withst's News Radio. 339 00:18:56.519 --> 00:19:02.200 Delighted to welcome doctor Kenton Kaufman. He's a member of 340 00:19:02.240 --> 00:19:07.400 the Mayo Clinic Faculty Mayo Clinic Research. He has done 341 00:19:07.599 --> 00:19:13.039 a senior author on a study of musculoskeletal research. Professor 342 00:19:13.160 --> 00:19:17.400 at Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minnesota. I've read about this recently, 343 00:19:17.519 --> 00:19:21.799 doctor Kaufman, as to may be a relationship as to 344 00:19:21.880 --> 00:19:24.839 how long you can stand on one foot and the 345 00:19:24.880 --> 00:19:29.480 answer may predict your fall risk. I get that, but 346 00:19:29.599 --> 00:19:33.720 have also said I've also seen that there's some correlation 347 00:19:33.920 --> 00:19:37.039 between not only the length of time you can stand, 348 00:19:37.480 --> 00:19:42.160 but other factors. Please tell us about it, because I'm 349 00:19:42.200 --> 00:19:43.920 so happy to have you on tonight. First of all, 350 00:19:43.960 --> 00:19:46.599 welcome to Boston and welcome to Nightside WBZ. 351 00:19:48.319 --> 00:19:50.720 Thank you for the invitation to be with you, Dan, 352 00:19:50.799 --> 00:19:56.720 and look forward to our discussion. The study basically look 353 00:19:56.799 --> 00:20:00.079 at a number of factors that have been known to 354 00:20:00.359 --> 00:20:05.400 identify aging and older adults, and it compared all those 355 00:20:05.440 --> 00:20:08.759 factors and found that the ability to stand on one 356 00:20:08.839 --> 00:20:12.720 leg was the one that decreased the quickest with aging. 357 00:20:13.359 --> 00:20:16.319 And so that's a good predictor of, you know, how 358 00:20:16.400 --> 00:20:17.759 healthy you are as you age. 359 00:20:18.920 --> 00:20:22.920 Okay, so when we talk about aging, are we talking 360 00:20:22.920 --> 00:20:26.400 about people over fifty? Are we talking about people over eighty? 361 00:20:26.519 --> 00:20:26.559 What? 362 00:20:27.279 --> 00:20:32.559 What sort of a you know, continuum did you study? 363 00:20:34.000 --> 00:20:37.400 Yeah? Great question. We started. We had people ages fifty 364 00:20:37.400 --> 00:20:40.920 to eighty three in this study. The average age was 365 00:20:40.960 --> 00:20:44.799 sixty five. There was twenty people below age sixty five 366 00:20:44.839 --> 00:20:46.680 and twenty people above age sixty five. 367 00:20:47.519 --> 00:20:49.880 Oh, was that a large enough sample? 368 00:20:50.160 --> 00:20:54.200 Again, I'm not christ questioning it here, but you know, 369 00:20:54.759 --> 00:20:57.880 in Major league sports, the Minnesota Twins will rank since 370 00:20:57.880 --> 00:21:00.400 you're in Minnesota, will bring up some rookie who will 371 00:21:00.440 --> 00:21:02.799 hit three hundred for the last two weeks of the season, 372 00:21:03.200 --> 00:21:05.200 and they'll find out that he had twenty at bats 373 00:21:05.200 --> 00:21:11.119 and six hits, and the baseball professionals will say, well, 374 00:21:11.319 --> 00:21:13.359 that's a small sample size. Let's see what he does 375 00:21:13.440 --> 00:21:15.920 next spring, and go ahead, doctor only, I'm having some 376 00:21:16.000 --> 00:21:16.440 fun with you. 377 00:21:16.519 --> 00:21:16.920 Go ahead. 378 00:21:18.039 --> 00:21:22.920 Yeah, that's a good point. All these findings are statistically significant. 379 00:21:23.519 --> 00:21:26.839 I would say they're also clinically significant. Certainly a larger 380 00:21:26.880 --> 00:21:30.240 study would have been better, but these data work were 381 00:21:31.240 --> 00:21:32.440 found to be significant. 382 00:21:32.920 --> 00:21:38.480 Okay, so let's break it down. So you're saying any 383 00:21:38.599 --> 00:21:45.519 adult should be concerned if they're unable to stand in 384 00:21:45.559 --> 00:21:51.000 a one legged position for the constand for five seconds? 385 00:21:51.039 --> 00:21:53.160 Is that I'm just looking kind of at the bottom 386 00:21:53.240 --> 00:21:54.559 line statistically here. 387 00:21:54.440 --> 00:21:54.880 What is it? 388 00:21:55.000 --> 00:21:59.759 Yeah, that's correct. We asked the game that the individuals 389 00:21:59.759 --> 00:22:03.279 in the study a target of thirty seconds, and some 390 00:22:03.319 --> 00:22:05.000 of them could hit that target and some of them 391 00:22:05.319 --> 00:22:09.640 could not. For the individual's underage sixty five, the average 392 00:22:09.680 --> 00:22:13.759 time was twenty three seconds, and for those above sixty five, 393 00:22:13.799 --> 00:22:16.240 the average time was eleven seconds. 394 00:22:17.680 --> 00:22:21.480 You're all pretty you must have had some pretty good 395 00:22:21.519 --> 00:22:27.160 adults there. I I'm on the wrong side of fifty, 396 00:22:28.079 --> 00:22:30.759 but I don't know that I could stand on one leg. 397 00:22:30.839 --> 00:22:33.920 I got a bad left ankle, which I've compromised from 398 00:22:33.960 --> 00:22:36.799 too much sports and high school and college. 399 00:22:37.039 --> 00:22:38.119 In my younger years. 400 00:22:38.880 --> 00:22:41.200 How do you compensate for someone who's got a you know, 401 00:22:41.319 --> 00:22:44.759