Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBS, Boston's new radio.
Speaker 2: Thanks very much, Nicole.
Speaker 3: This is Dan Ray and I am here every Monday
Speaker 3: through Friday night, with some exceptions, but pretty much every
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Speaker 3: So during the first hour, as you know, we are
Speaker 3: back to regularly schedule program after our election special last night,
Speaker 3: and we'll talk with four guests during this hour about
Speaker 3: good activities and events or developments or trends that you
Speaker 3: need to be aware of. Let me just take a
Speaker 3: quick moment and remind you that we will be talking
Speaker 3: about the stunning results of this election. This I had
Speaker 3: said that I was hoping for a decisive election victory.
Speaker 2: I felt that it would be better.
Speaker 3: For the country if one of these candidates won decisively,
Speaker 3: and I think one did, so we're going to.
Speaker 2: Talk about that.
Speaker 3: We're going to talk with Dave Paleologus Polster, I think,
Speaker 3: one of the best pollsters and someone who we've relied
Speaker 3: on for years. During the nine o'clock hour, you can
Speaker 3: call in and ask questions. I think we'll break it
Speaker 3: down for you We're still looking at the numbers. There
Speaker 3: are still a couple of states that haven't been called.
Speaker 3: But this is an extraordinary election. The Vice President of
Speaker 3: the United States, Kamala Harris, did extend her congratulations to
Speaker 3: President elect Trump and also delivered what I guess would
Speaker 3: be characterized as her official concession speech this afternoon at
Speaker 3: at Howard University in Washington, d C. School from when
Speaker 3: she graduated. So we'll get to all of that. We
Speaker 3: have four hours tonight plenty to do. So if you
Speaker 3: have thoughts on the election, on the results, whether you're happy, unhappy,
Speaker 3: or whatever. I do think it's time for us to
Speaker 3: put some of this behind us, some of the language,
Speaker 3: and try to look at each other not so much
Speaker 3: as enemies, but people who have a different opinion. But
Speaker 3: I'll get to all of that. I just wanted to
Speaker 3: set the table and get that out before we started.
Speaker 3: So tonight we are going to start off with Bill Pennington.
Speaker 3: Bill is going to tell us about an event, a
Speaker 3: couple of events coming up this weekend the group that
Speaker 3: he represents. He was the founder of a group called
Speaker 3: Run for the Troops. Bill Pennington, Welcome back to Night's Side. Obviously,
Speaker 3: the title of the group run for the troops, I
Speaker 3: think is self explanatory, but let's let's drill down a
Speaker 3: little bit here, and what are we talking about coming
Speaker 3: up in the next week or so.
Speaker 4: Well, Friday night at an Indian Ridge country Club, it's
Speaker 4: actually a celebration dinner. We honor our veterans and recognize
Speaker 4: them and just give thanks and give these the civilians
Speaker 4: a chance to meet and chat with you know, the
Speaker 4: one two. Because of their sacrifice, we have our safety
Speaker 4: and our freedoms. It's a win win and we expect
Speaker 4: probably seventy five veterans and Bobby half the crowd will
Speaker 4: be veterans, so it'll be a great night. And then
Speaker 4: on Sunday we do a couple events. We call it
Speaker 4: Forever Young and it's targeted to grandparents and their grandchildren.
Speaker 4: One time around the track, real simple, we don't care
Speaker 4: how you get around. You can push grandma, you can
Speaker 4: push your grandchild, you can walk, you can run, and
Speaker 4: it's a good way from camaraderie, gets the kids off
Speaker 4: the cell phone and actually interact with their grandparents or
Speaker 4: even their parents. And then we do the big event,
Speaker 4: the five k walk and run at nine o'clock in between,
Speaker 4: we do a big veterans ceremony. Probably one hundred and
Speaker 4: fifty vests participate on that and bagpipes, color guard and
Speaker 4: this year, let's do this.
Speaker 2: Let's do this, Bill.
Speaker 3: I don't want to overwhelm people out there because I
Speaker 3: feel they have to be like that, be a stenographer
Speaker 3: to get all this information. Let's take each of these events.
Speaker 3: It's part of this upcoming weekend. So let's break them
Speaker 3: down one at a time. You said the dinner. I
Speaker 3: think you said the Indian Ridge Country Club.
Speaker 4: Correct, yep, and andover mass yeah.
Speaker 3: Sure, okay, So how can folks, assuming that they'd like
Speaker 3: to go to the dinner, are they tickets still available?
Speaker 3: What's the what's the deal with with that?
Speaker 4: Well, we can always squeeze a few more in, But
Speaker 4: if they can just go to our website, it's Run
Speaker 4: for the Troops m A dot org. The all the
Speaker 4: events are listed on there and they can readier right
Speaker 4: now on there, or they can email me at W
Speaker 4: Bill Pennington at gmail dot com and we'll we'll squeeze in.
Speaker 2: Okay, we'll we'll we'll do all of that.
Speaker 3: I just want to what I'd like to do is
Speaker 3: I have a fairly linear mindset.
Speaker 2: I like to talk about one thing, so let's not
Speaker 2: mix it out of here. Let's just keep rolling here.
Speaker 2: We'll get it all in. There's no need to rush here, okay.
Speaker 3: So run for the troops data Friday night, what time
Speaker 3: six o'clock.
Speaker 4: Seven o'clock, six o'clo six o'clock.
Speaker 3: Indian Ridge Country Club in andover for people who live
Speaker 3: up north of the city. Everyone knows where that is,
Speaker 3: and they can buy tickets and uh and make reservations
Speaker 3: and enjoy the evening. And again, give me the website
Speaker 3: where those tickets are available. Let's just focus on the website.
Speaker 4: Okay, it's run for the troops.
Speaker 5: Ma.
Speaker 4: Well, let me try it again. Run for the Troops
Speaker 4: five k m dot org.
Speaker 3: Okay, so that website is for everything. Run for the
Speaker 3: troops the number five km dot org.
Speaker 2: Okay. That's so we got that one taken care of.
Speaker 3: Now, this giant where people can can bring their children,
Speaker 3: their grandchildren, their grandparents and do a lap around a track.
Speaker 3: Which school is that going to be held out? That's Saturday, right.
Speaker 4: That's Sunday?
Speaker 2: No, that Sunday.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's goods. See where we're making progress here, Bill,
Speaker 3: just hang with me. Okay, we're gonna get this all done.
Speaker 3: So that's on Sunday, and Sunday is the tenth, if
Speaker 3: I'm looking at my calendar correctly, November tenth.
Speaker 2: Where is that event?
Speaker 4: Okay? It's at thirty six Bartless Street, and it's behind
Speaker 4: the Town Offices, which is connected to the Doherty School,
Speaker 4: which town and over Massachusetts.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's great. Okay, So it's right near the Dougherty School,
Speaker 3: and that's free. People can just participate.
Speaker 4: Correct, We're just charging ten dollars to cover the cost
Speaker 4: of metals and refreshments.
Speaker 3: Okay, fair enough. And then you'll also have on Sunday.
Speaker 3: Was it two road races, a five K and a
Speaker 3: ten k.
Speaker 4: No, it's a five K that starts at nine o'clock
Speaker 4: and in between. I know I'm gonna confusia, but there's
Speaker 4: a better, big veteran ceremony in between eight and nine
Speaker 4: o'clock that we do too.
Speaker 2: That's okay. I'm a little confused, but that's okay.
Speaker 3: So the first thing in terms of sequence is the
Speaker 3: walk around the track yep, and then the veterans ceremony yep,
Speaker 3: and then the five K.
Speaker 4: That's exactly right.
Speaker 2: Now, we got it. Now, we got said the dinners.
Speaker 3: Friday night, nothing on Saturday, Sunday, Dorothy School, Dougherty School
Speaker 3: in Endover. Start off with the nice leisurely walk around
Speaker 3: the track. Everyone's everyone's invited. You asked for a ten
Speaker 3: dollar donation, and then you have a ceremony honoring veterans,
Speaker 3: and then the five k. Okay, I think we got it, Bill,
Speaker 3: and again I appreciate it very much. Give the website
Speaker 3: one more time and I'll let you go. Website one
Speaker 3: more time.
Speaker 4: Bill, it's run for the troops five K and dot.
Speaker 2: Org perfect, perfect, Well.
Speaker 3: I hope some of our listeners up in the whole,
Speaker 3: you know, surrounding community up there north of Boston and
Speaker 3: over and environments participate. I have no idea what the
Speaker 3: weather forecast looks like, because I didn't watch the weather tonight,
Speaker 3: but I hope you get weather like today and you'll
Speaker 3: have a great event. Thanks Bill, I appreciate what you do.
Speaker 3: It's a great organization, run for the troops. Thanks Bill.
Speaker 4: Thank you there, You're right, You're welcome.
Speaker 2: Okay, we come back.
Speaker 3: Good to ask the question is there really such a
Speaker 3: thing as a healthy soda?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 3: Apparently there's a lot of brands out there that are
Speaker 3: marketing some soda as healthy. That almost sounds oxymoronic. We're
Speaker 3: going to talk with a guest, Marion Nessel. She wrote
Speaker 3: a book on the soda industry and is the emeritus
Speaker 3: professor of Nutrition, Food Studies, and Public Health at NYU,
Speaker 3: New York University.
Speaker 2: Stick with us.
Speaker 3: We'll be back with Marion Nessel, and maybe we'll talk
Speaker 3: about whatever soda you have in your refrigerator. Back on Nightside.
Speaker 3: My name is Dan Raith, the night after the twenty
Speaker 3: twenty four election. We have a lot of conversation coming
Speaker 3: up between nine and twelve, but we have three more guests,
Speaker 3: special guests to talk to in this hour. Please stay
Speaker 3: with us here on Nightside. We're gonna have a great
Speaker 3: show tonight.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray live from the window World
Speaker 1: night Side Studios. I'm WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: I'd like to welcome Mary Nessel.
Speaker 3: She's written a book on the soda industry and as
Speaker 3: an emeritus professor at of Nutrition, Food Studies and Public
Speaker 3: Health at New York University. A great college professor, Nessel.
Speaker 2: How are you?
Speaker 6: I'm just fine, beautiful, love you.
Speaker 3: I love your last name. It reminds me of candy bars.
Speaker 3: I love that nestl nystl e uh oh. I know
Speaker 3: that you see you, professors, you anticipate questions. I was
Speaker 3: hoping for you. Okay, So the question is is there
Speaker 3: really such a thing as a healthy soda? Look, I've
Speaker 3: gotten rid of pepsi. I used to drink pepsi A
Speaker 3: I got rid of it. I realized forty one carbs
Speaker 3: in every pepsi Along the way. It helped me lose
Speaker 3: some weight and get much better shape. Smartest thing I
Speaker 3: did I drink. I drink water at my meals. Food
Speaker 3: tastes much better. But there are some brands out there
Speaker 3: that are marketing some sodas as healthy. Kind of sounds
Speaker 3: a little oxymoronic to me.
Speaker 6: A healthy soda, well, the first question is how much
Speaker 6: sugar does it have? The second question doesn't have artificial sweeteners.
Speaker 6: If it's water with a little fruit juice in it,
Speaker 6: I'm forish. Even if it's fish water.
Speaker 2: Even if it's what type of water? Just took a
Speaker 2: water fishy? I drink tap water with ice cubes and
Speaker 2: it's great.
Speaker 3: Maybe I throw a piece of lemon or a piece
Speaker 3: of lime in there.
Speaker 2: And I got all the flavoring.
Speaker 3: I want is the sodas out there that are now
Speaker 3: coming on the market, because that's what people want that
Speaker 3: actually are good quality. That you've done the studies, I
Speaker 3: haven't any that you'd recommend.
Speaker 6: Well, I'm just absolutely amazed when I go into a
Speaker 6: supermarket to see the numbers of bottled waters, fruit flavored,
Speaker 6: some of them sparkling, some of them with juice in them,
Speaker 6: very low in sugar. Many of them are not artificially sweetened.
Speaker 6: And I think you could find plenty of them. The
Speaker 6: question is whether it's sweet enough for you, and that
Speaker 6: we've gotten used to drinking really sweet drinks and that's
Speaker 6: not very good for our health. Unfortunately.
Speaker 3: I can tell you when I knocked off pepsis, and
Speaker 3: I used to be a pepsi guy. If I went
Speaker 3: to lunch with you, I'd have pepsi with I'd order
Speaker 3: a glass of ice water, but I wouldn't touch the
Speaker 3: ice water, and I'd have two or three pepsis. And
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, I realized what am I doing
Speaker 3: to myself. I'm in the gym working out. All I'm
Speaker 3: doing is throwing carbs down at lunchtime. Now you're never
Speaker 3: going to find me at lunch, and you'll never find
Speaker 3: me with a regular pepsi or a regular coke in
Speaker 3: my hand.
Speaker 2: I just I learned that.
Speaker 3: And once you learn it, and you and for a
Speaker 3: couple of weeks you get off it. You know, very
Speaker 3: easy habits to break. Have you ever done any study
Speaker 3: a study on how tough or how easy it is
Speaker 3: to get away from sweetened sodas compared to say, some
Speaker 3: of the other addictive activities that people have, whether it's
Speaker 3: chocolate bars or cigarettes' what's.
Speaker 6: The It depends on who you are, you know. The
Speaker 6: research on addiction says that about somewhere between ten and
Speaker 6: fifteen percent of people who have an addictive personality and
Speaker 6: they feel like they're addicted to sodas, they've got a
Speaker 6: real problem. I think for other people it's not a
Speaker 6: problem to lose them at all. And my first advice
Speaker 6: for any but who's trying to lose weight is drop
Speaker 6: the sugar sweetened beverages. Get rid of them. They're calories
Speaker 6: you don't need, they don't add nutrition in anything nutritious
Speaker 6: to your diet. Get rid of them. Number one thing
Speaker 6: to get rid of is the sugar sweetened beverages.
Speaker 2: Yeah. The other thing that.
Speaker 3: Is to me is interesting is that if you replace
Speaker 3: them with there's a lot of I love fruits, I
Speaker 3: love macintosh apples, green grapes, red grapes. They all have sugar.
Speaker 3: You know, you can help. You can get sugar through
Speaker 3: good sauces as opposed to twelve on soda cans.
Speaker 6: Well, but you don't get you don't get nearly as much,
Speaker 6: and you have fiber and other kinds of components with it.
Speaker 6: It takes a lot of grapes to add up to
Speaker 6: the sugar that's in a standard sugar sweetened beverage that
Speaker 6: might have thirty or forty grams of sugar in just
Speaker 6: one can. It's not the little ements that our problem.
Speaker 6: It's having this enormous amount of sugar in a liquid
Speaker 6: form that's absorbed very very quickly. It messes up your metabolism.
Speaker 6: It's not a good thing to.
Speaker 3: Do, no, no question. Now you've written a book on
Speaker 3: the soda industry. If that book is still available and
Speaker 3: people wanted to get a copy of it, can they
Speaker 3: go to Amazon? What can they do if they'd like
Speaker 3: to get a copy of the book.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm just order it from your bookstore.
Speaker 6: From some online source of Soda politics taking on big
Speaker 6: Soda and winning.
Speaker 3: So the title is Soda politics taking on big soda
Speaker 3: and winning winn Yeah, that's always good.
Speaker 2: As we found out last night, if you were a
Speaker 2: Trump supporter.
Speaker 3: But the point is, I'm assuming that you're not a
Speaker 3: big hit in the in the boardroom, the corporate boardroom
Speaker 3: of Pepsi or Coke.
Speaker 6: Oh, I probably not, although I've although I've met very
Speaker 6: high officials in those in those companies on various occasions.
Speaker 6: They've come to visit me in my office. They're very respectful,
Speaker 6: they're respectful.
Speaker 3: Are they doing the same thing if if if soda
Speaker 3: consumption you know again, you know, we'll call soda. What
Speaker 3: we mean obviously is Sprite and Nepsi and root Beer's
Speaker 3: and all those fans and stuff. Are they increasing the
Speaker 3: overseas market? When I travel, I see Pepsi and Coke
Speaker 3: wherever I go, it's it's available. I know that the
Speaker 3: cigarette companies export now a lot of cigarettes overseas. Uh.
Speaker 6: Well, the soda companies have a real problem because the
Speaker 6: peak year of soda consumption and the United States was
Speaker 6: nineteen ninety nine. That was a long time ago. And
Speaker 6: it's been going down steadily ever since. And so if
Speaker 6: you can't sell in the United States, you've got to
Speaker 6: sell someplace. And the particularly Co Cola developed a worldwide
Speaker 6: distribution system during the Second World War where they said
Speaker 6: they would supply Coca Cola to every soldier that the
Speaker 6: United States had deployed anywhere, and the government built bottling
Speaker 6: plants for them all over the world. So they sell
Speaker 6: it everywhere, and the you know, other people haven't learned
Speaker 6: the message about maybe too much sugar isn't good for you.
Speaker 3: So well, that's set up when you think about it,
Speaker 3: when all those troops from World War II came home.
Speaker 3: That's why pepsi and certainly Coca Cola was the beverage
Speaker 3: of choice. I'm sure in America that the fifties and
Speaker 3: sixties into the seventh.
Speaker 6: And that's why they were all smoking too, because the
Speaker 6: cigarettes were free. But you know, yeah, so things have
Speaker 6: changed and the you know, I'm not opposed to drinking
Speaker 6: and beverages. I just think this is something you have
Speaker 6: to do in very small amounts.
Speaker 3: What do they say everything in moderation, Professor, Professor Professor
Speaker 3: Meritis Marion Nessel, Thank you very much, for joining us tonight.
Speaker 3: Give us the name of the book one more time
Speaker 3: in case folks wants it. SOA Politics, Perfect Soda Politics,
Speaker 3: either on Amazon or at your bookstore.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Professor, enjoyed.
Speaker 6: Talking with you, my pleasure.
Speaker 2: Thanks. Have a great night.
Speaker 3: Soda Politics, taking on big Soda and winning by Professor
Speaker 3: Marion Nessel like the candy.
Speaker 2: Bar an E s t l E.
Speaker 3: All right, We're going to go back with a very
Speaker 3: interesting guest dealing with and the reason it's interesting. I've
Speaker 3: recently read about this how long can you stand on
Speaker 3: one foot? And the answer may predict your fall risk.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure I buy that. We're going to talk
Speaker 3: with doctor Kenton Kaufman. He's the senior author of the
Speaker 3: Mayo Clinic study and a musculo skeletal research professor at
Speaker 3: the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minnesota.
Speaker 2: I'm sure he knows a lot about this. I'm gonna be.
Speaker 3: Really interested in this conversation. I hope you will be
Speaker 3: as well. My name is Dan Raynge. Listening to Nightside
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Speaker 3: Back on Nightside right after the news break at the
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Speaker 3: Delighted to welcome doctor Kenton Kaufman. He's a member of
Speaker 3: the Mayo Clinic Faculty Mayo Clinic Research. He has done
Speaker 3: a senior author on a study of musculoskeletal research. Professor
Speaker 3: at Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minnesota. I've read about this recently,
Speaker 3: doctor Kaufman, as to may be a relationship as to
Speaker 3: how long you can stand on one foot and the
Speaker 3: answer may predict your fall risk. I get that, but
Speaker 3: have also said I've also seen that there's some correlation
Speaker 3: between not only the length of time you can stand,
Speaker 3: but other factors. Please tell us about it, because I'm
Speaker 3: so happy to have you on tonight. First of all,
Speaker 3: welcome to Boston and welcome to Nightside WBZ.
Speaker 7: Thank you for the invitation to be with you, Dan,
Speaker 7: and look forward to our discussion. The study basically look
Speaker 7: at a number of factors that have been known to
Speaker 7: identify aging and older adults, and it compared all those
Speaker 7: factors and found that the ability to stand on one
Speaker 7: leg was the one that decreased the quickest with aging.
Speaker 7: And so that's a good predictor of, you know, how
Speaker 7: healthy you are as you age.
Speaker 3: Okay, so when we talk about aging, are we talking
Speaker 3: about people over fifty? Are we talking about people over eighty?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 3: What sort of a you know, continuum did you study?
Speaker 7: Yeah? Great question. We started. We had people ages fifty
Speaker 7: to eighty three in this study. The average age was
Speaker 7: sixty five. There was twenty people below age sixty five
Speaker 7: and twenty people above age sixty five.
Speaker 2: Oh, was that a large enough sample?
Speaker 3: Again, I'm not christ questioning it here, but you know,
Speaker 3: in Major league sports, the Minnesota Twins will rank since
Speaker 3: you're in Minnesota, will bring up some rookie who will
Speaker 3: hit three hundred for the last two weeks of the season,
Speaker 3: and they'll find out that he had twenty at bats
Speaker 3: and six hits, and the baseball professionals will say, well,
Speaker 3: that's a small sample size. Let's see what he does
Speaker 3: next spring, and go ahead, doctor only, I'm having some
Speaker 3: fun with you.
Speaker 2: Go ahead.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's a good point. All these findings are statistically significant.
Speaker 7: I would say they're also clinically significant. Certainly a larger
Speaker 7: study would have been better, but these data work were
Speaker 7: found to be significant.
Speaker 3: Okay, so let's break it down. So you're saying any
Speaker 3: adult should be concerned if they're unable to stand in
Speaker 3: a one legged position for the constand for five seconds?
Speaker 3: Is that I'm just looking kind of at the bottom
Speaker 3: line statistically here.
Speaker 5: What is it?
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's correct. We asked the game that the individuals
Speaker 7: in the study a target of thirty seconds, and some
Speaker 7: of them could hit that target and some of them
Speaker 7: could not. For the individual's underage sixty five, the average
Speaker 7: time was twenty three seconds, and for those above sixty five,
Speaker 7: the average time was eleven seconds.
Speaker 3: You're all pretty you must have had some pretty good
Speaker 3: adults there. I I'm on the wrong side of fifty,
Speaker 3: but I don't know that I could stand on one leg.
Speaker 3: I got a bad left ankle, which I've compromised from
Speaker 3: too much sports and high school and college.
Speaker 2: In my younger years.
Speaker 3: How do you compensate for someone who's got a you know,
Speaker 3: a real problem with a knee problem or an ankle problem.
Speaker 3: Do you discount what length of time they can stand
Speaker 3: on legs that have a joint problem.
Speaker 7: Well, you know that's part of life as you age.
Speaker 7: And you know again, if you can stand on that
Speaker 7: leg for over five seconds, you're probably not as much
Speaker 7: at risk of falling as if you can't. So, yeah,
Speaker 7: we took healthy older adults in the community that we study.
Speaker 3: Okay, now you correlated with longevity as I understand it,
Speaker 3: meaning if you have someone and they're unable to do
Speaker 3: this at a certain age, whatever that age is, sixty
Speaker 3: sixty five, seventy seventy five, tell us about the longevity.
Speaker 3: What does that mean? I don't want my listeners tonight
Speaker 3: going to bed thinking they're going to die in their sleep.
Speaker 3: But what does that mean? Put aside falls for a second,
Speaker 3: let's talk just longevity.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so this study was a cross sectional study, just
Speaker 7: looking at a group of older adults. To really look
Speaker 7: at longevity, you would need to follow the same person
Speaker 7: over time to see if there's any predictive ability.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh okay, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: So therefore longevity really was not really has not been
Speaker 3: study here.
Speaker 2: The question is your proclivity to falling?
Speaker 7: That's correct. Well, actually the question was about balance but
Speaker 7: but balance is the you know, loss of balance is
Speaker 7: the leading costing of falls and older adults. So in essence,
Speaker 7: it's just to be about falling too.
Speaker 3: I was watching a video last night of some exercises
Speaker 3: that people can do to improve their balance, and essentially
Speaker 3: it showed people standing straight up and you know, basically
Speaker 3: bringing one leg up to the one side of their body,
Speaker 3: putting that leg down, bringing the other leg up to
Speaker 3: the other side of the body. And then there was
Speaker 3: some some some pretty simple you know, which seemed to
Speaker 3: me to make sense. Basically people standing straight on their
Speaker 3: you know, on their legs, standing up and taking the
Speaker 3: leg and moving the right legout, you know, thirty thirty
Speaker 3: five degrees, bringing it back, bringing the left leg out
Speaker 3: thirty to thirty five degrees, and doing it, you know,
Speaker 3: twenty twenty five times. Any of those exercises helpful. Can
Speaker 3: people improve their balance by doing extra specific exercises?
Speaker 7: They can? And some of the things you were mentioning
Speaker 7: are exercises for balance, and you know that. I think
Speaker 7: the message for your listeners is is that, you know,
Speaker 7: if you're having trouble with balance, then maybe look at
Speaker 7: some of these exercises that are easy to do that
Speaker 7: you can do at home.
Speaker 2: Okay, And then let me ask you one personally. Okay.
Speaker 3: I spend a lot of time in the gym, and
Speaker 3: my favorite machine to work is the elliptical because they
Speaker 3: don't have to worry about impact, you know, joint impact.
Speaker 3: And so what I try to do is I try
Speaker 3: to do ten minutes without touching anything, without holding it
Speaker 3: on anything, keeping my balance, and then as I get
Speaker 3: a little tired and I move up, you know, the
Speaker 3: the greater resistance, you know, I'll hold on with something
Speaker 3: like that help your balance if someone's doing you know,
Speaker 3: ellipticals where you're standing, you know, you want to be
Speaker 3: an athletic position while you're doing it.
Speaker 2: You don't want to be standing up straight.
Speaker 3: You want to sort of be kind of leading into it.
Speaker 3: Is that something that would help people to improve their balance?
Speaker 7: Absolutely, And that's a that's a real good test to
Speaker 7: balance because you're you're moving and you have to shift
Speaker 7: your late from side to side.
Speaker 3: Good Okay, Well okay then and then I've stumbled into
Speaker 3: a couple of things that that that I will.
Speaker 2: Continue to do.
Speaker 3: Is there any way in which people can either get
Speaker 3: access to the study or get access to information about
Speaker 3: the study. Is there any any website we can refer
Speaker 3: folks to.
Speaker 7: Oh, yeah, that's a great question. So this is an
Speaker 7: open access journal, so there's no charge for them to
Speaker 7: to access to the article. It's in a journal called
Speaker 7: plus one. I'm I don't exactly have the exact, uh,
Speaker 7: you know, way to go get it, but it's something
Speaker 7: they can access, and I'm sure they'll be away for
Speaker 7: on your website for them to find that link and
Speaker 7: be able to access it.
Speaker 3: Looks to me like the plus one is spelled not
Speaker 3: like like plus like addition, but it's p l O
Speaker 3: S or Am I.
Speaker 7: Missing something that is correct? PLS one?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 3: And I'm sure that if they just google plus one
Speaker 3: p l os not plus p l U S p
Speaker 3: l O S one, they'll they'll be directed to it.
Speaker 2: Google is pretty good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they get you generally to the website pretty easily.
Speaker 3: Doctor Cobblin really enjoyed the conversation. Thank you so much
Speaker 3: for giving us your time. The Mayo Clinic is such
Speaker 3: a wonderful institution. We have great medical facilities here in Boston, obviously,
Speaker 3: but the Mayo Clinic is one, along with the Cleveland
Speaker 3: Clinic that they we stand in hour of those two
Speaker 3: clinicses and others around the country. We have great medical
Speaker 3: facilities in Boston, but there are a lot of great
Speaker 3: medical facilities around the country as well. Thank you so
Speaker 3: much for the work you've done.
Speaker 2: On this issue.
Speaker 7: You have great facilities in Boston. It's a pleasure to
Speaker 7: be with you this evening. Thank you for your time.
Speaker 3: Well, thank you, Doctor Kenton Kaufman, senior author of the
Speaker 3: Mayo Clinic study as a research professor at the Mayo
Speaker 3: Clinic in Rochester, Minnesota.
Speaker 2: Now when we come.
Speaker 3: Back, we are going to talk with a second group,
Speaker 3: a representative of a second group dealing with veterans, because
Speaker 3: obviously we have Veterans Day coming up on Monday, November eleventh,
Speaker 3: is just around the corner. Going to be talking with
Speaker 3: Bill Moore, founder of Project New Hope. We'll be back
Speaker 3: on Night's Side with our next guest on the other
Speaker 3: side of this very quick break on Wednesday night, the
Speaker 3: night after the election that we have been talking about
Speaker 3: and thinking about for months, and for that matter, for years.
Speaker 2: We'll be back right after this.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 1: Nights Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 3: All right, I want to welcome Bill Moore. He's the
Speaker 3: founder of a group called Project New Hope. Bill, explain
Speaker 3: to us exactly what Project New Hope is and how
Speaker 3: long it's been in operation.
Speaker 2: Welcome to night Side.
Speaker 5: Yes, sir, thank you.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So I'm an Air Force veteran and I retired. Thank you, sir.
Speaker 5: I retired, and about seventeen years ago and fourteen years
Speaker 5: ago I started Project New Hope to offer free weekend
Speaker 5: retreats and week long retreats for veterans in their families.
Speaker 5: We focus on We have male veterans retreats, Women veterans retreats,
Speaker 5: couples retreats, we focus on TBI PTSD, just a whole
Speaker 5: host of almost of retreats and stuff.
Speaker 3: Just where are the where are the retreats? How are
Speaker 3: they in one location essentially located or are they wells?
Speaker 5: Yeah, well we have them. We also use grotten Wood.
Speaker 5: It's in Groton, mass We go up to Oldoche Beach, Maine.
Speaker 5: We host retreats up there, and we do most of
Speaker 5: our retreats up in Westfield at a facility called Genesis
Speaker 5: UH and those are week long retreats. And then New
Speaker 5: we just started them last last year and it's they're
Speaker 5: called the katinam at At TCM. And if you have
Speaker 5: a veteran struggling with PTS, guild anger, you know, fear,
Speaker 5: physical pain, limited beliefs, the patina at At TCM resolves
Speaker 5: and dissolves these problems. And it's based on neuroscience and
Speaker 5: brain based hailing that helps the people get over the
Speaker 5: trauma without having it to relive any pain.
Speaker 7: Are really.
Speaker 2: How do veterans find you?
Speaker 5: So they go on to our website projectnew Hopema dot
Speaker 5: org and they click on to the tab that says
Speaker 5: retreat and we'll list all the retreats. We have one
Speaker 5: coming up tomorrow we're leaving for for a week and
Speaker 5: it's up in Westfield, mass And it's a men's TCM
Speaker 5: retreat and that will be our last one for twenty
Speaker 5: twenty four.
Speaker 3: So over the course of the year, how many of
Speaker 3: these retreats are held? And I'm just wondering how many
Speaker 3: service personnel and or you know, their spouses are off
Speaker 3: significant others are accommodated, Yes.
Speaker 5: Sir, So these new retreats here, we're limited to ten veterans.
Speaker 5: So the male veterans retreat and the women veterans retreat
Speaker 5: is ten each and we bring in five trauma based specialists.
Speaker 5: Each trauma based specialists is assigned two veterans. The couple's
Speaker 5: retreat is five veterans or military members and their spouses
Speaker 5: and we do a lot of the you know, equining
Speaker 5: therapy and yoga and reiki and reflexology and massage and
Speaker 5: hot therapy, and it's it's really incredible. And if any
Speaker 5: of the listeners just want to go into our website
Speaker 5: and just click on retreats and scroll down and read
Speaker 5: some of the testimonials and see some of the photos
Speaker 5: of these retreats, it's just it's really incredible what's taking
Speaker 5: place here, this transformation.
Speaker 3: Now, how did you get involved? Were you dealing with
Speaker 3: some of these issues yourself? At some point in post military?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Some one hundred percent service connected and I had PTS
Speaker 5: and I was a social worker for the Commonwealth of Massachusetts.
Speaker 5: I worked for dc UP before I retired. I had
Speaker 5: twenty five years and I was always out looking for
Speaker 5: different things here and my wife and I were down
Speaker 5: in Flower, Uh with kind of snow goods and we
Speaker 5: came across the TCM retreats that were being offered down there,
Speaker 5: and we reached out to Michael Katina and you know,
Speaker 5: had multiple conversations with him, and I asked him if
Speaker 5: he would consider host and retreats here in Massachusetts.
Speaker 2: And no idea who Michael Katina is or who is
Speaker 2: Who's Michael?
Speaker 5: Well, Michael, Michael Katina is the the gentleman that created
Speaker 5: the Katina method. He created, Uh, this brain based healing
Speaker 5: module that we that we utilize. And uh, he goes
Speaker 5: all over the country talking about TCM and hosting retreats
Speaker 5: and in different countries and stuff, and uh, it's truly
Speaker 5: incredible what he's offering.
Speaker 3: Now, do you do you work full time on this
Speaker 3: or is it or is it has it become a
Speaker 3: vocation or is it When I say an application, I
Speaker 3: use that have a word application in the best sense
Speaker 3: where you're actually, you know, volunteering time or are you
Speaker 3: part of the team that administers this.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I'm the founder and president of a Project
Speaker 5: New Hope and I retire. The VA put me at
Speaker 5: one hundred percent service connected and I retired about seventeen
Speaker 5: years ago, and so I just volunteer my time here
Speaker 5: and I run Project New Hope And you know, everything
Speaker 5: else that we offer here, okay, And.
Speaker 3: If folks either want to take advantage of the opportunity,
Speaker 3: they can go to a Project New Hope for Massachusets
Speaker 3: obviously all oneword dot org. Yeah, if you want to
Speaker 3: looks like you're accepting people to work as volunteers as.
Speaker 7: I understand this, Yes, sir, yes we have.
Speaker 5: We have one full time employee, my operations manager, and
Speaker 5: we have eight part time people, but the majority is volunteers.
Speaker 5: And besides the retreats, we also we have a food pantry,
Speaker 5: a baby pantry, we have a veterans coffee social that
Speaker 5: meets every Tuesday. We do acclaim assistance here of this,
Speaker 5: you know.
Speaker 2: And where where are you located?
Speaker 3: Obviously you're in Massachusetts, but where's the hub of activity?
Speaker 5: So the main office here is in Worcester on seventy
Speaker 5: James Street. Also wee one twenty nine A and then
Speaker 5: we have an office up in Westfield.
Speaker 2: Mass Right.
Speaker 3: Okay, So that way, folks either who need some help
Speaker 3: are invited to get in touch with you at that website,
Speaker 3: Project New Hope m A all one word lowercase dot
Speaker 3: org or if people would like to support you. You
Speaker 3: certainly are not going to turn away people who want
Speaker 3: to financially support you. I certainly get that and respect that,
Speaker 3: and thank you for everything that you've done on behalf
Speaker 3: of Veterance.
Speaker 5: Thank you, sir, I appreciate it, Sir, Thank you very kindly.
Speaker 3: Okay, Bill Moore, who's exactly direct and chair the board
Speaker 3: of Project New Hope. When we get back, we're going
Speaker 3: to be talking about a new president, the forty seventh
Speaker 3: president of the United States. Many people thought this would
Speaker 3: not be decided, maybe until Friday or Saturday. Well, it
Speaker 3: was done this morning. For around five am. Most of
Speaker 3: us were asleep at least I was woke up to
Speaker 3: find out that, yeah, what it appeared the direction that
Speaker 3: Donald Trump was heading in. And we're going to talk
Speaker 3: with Dave.
Speaker 2: Paley Logus about that and going to get your reaction.
Speaker 3: I'm surprised, as anyone, I will admit, I'm stunned that
Speaker 3: Donald Trump was able to complete this return to office.
Speaker 2: We'll talk about that coming back on night side