WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.040 --> 00:00:03.439 Happy Friday, and here we go. Fred Rogan Rodney Pete 2 00:00:03.439 --> 00:00:07.160 on AM five to seventy LA Sports somewhat of a sprint, 3 00:00:07.200 --> 00:00:09.560 a two hour program for us today, Rodney, So we 4 00:00:09.640 --> 00:00:11.759 have to got to work hard and get it all in. Yeah, 5 00:00:11.800 --> 00:00:14.400 we do. Are you are you suggesting that we don't 6 00:00:14.439 --> 00:00:17.800 work hard? Is it two hour program? You guys don't 7 00:00:17.800 --> 00:00:22.039 want to work. You guys don't want to Well, you 8 00:00:22.079 --> 00:00:26.039 guys don't want to work. You know what I'm hearing. 9 00:00:26.800 --> 00:00:29.879 That's what I'm hearing. That's what I'm hearing. That's not 10 00:00:29.960 --> 00:00:34.479 what we're saying, but that's what he's hearing. Right. No, 11 00:00:34.600 --> 00:00:36.439 we want to work and we're ready to go for 12 00:00:36.520 --> 00:00:38.960 two hours. Let's get right to it. We touched on 13 00:00:39.039 --> 00:00:41.600 it at the end of the show yesterday, and for 14 00:00:41.679 --> 00:00:45.719 my purposes, I just think this is fascinating. Mike Tyson 15 00:00:45.799 --> 00:00:51.359 and Jake Paul. Jake Paul has built an incredible brand 16 00:00:51.679 --> 00:00:57.000 and a social media following. Jake Paul is a product 17 00:00:58.039 --> 00:01:01.399 of today's world. Jake Paul has worked very hard to 18 00:01:01.399 --> 00:01:04.120 become a professional fighter, and I don't think anyone can 19 00:01:04.159 --> 00:01:07.560 take that from him. He takes this very seriously. He 20 00:01:07.599 --> 00:01:11.400 wants to be a pro fighter, and in his journey 21 00:01:12.760 --> 00:01:16.840 he has pretty much fought some tomato cans on the 22 00:01:16.840 --> 00:01:21.560 way every time he fights. You're excited to watch him, 23 00:01:22.120 --> 00:01:24.480 you are, Yeah, I have been. I have watched some 24 00:01:24.519 --> 00:01:26.599 of these I'll be honest, I have watched some of them, 25 00:01:26.959 --> 00:01:30.599 and I'm always curious. And you're excited to watch him? Yeah? 26 00:01:30.599 --> 00:01:31.760 Do you think I was excited to see? 27 00:01:31.799 --> 00:01:31.920 Why? 28 00:01:31.920 --> 00:01:33.840 Are you okay? Are you one of those excited to 29 00:01:33.920 --> 00:01:36.920 watch him or excited to watch him get beat? I 30 00:01:36.959 --> 00:01:39.599 was excited to watch him and see what would happen. 31 00:01:40.439 --> 00:01:43.879 But I am of the opinion that throughout this journey 32 00:01:43.879 --> 00:01:48.159 he's really not fought anybody. He's a young fighter. He's 33 00:01:48.159 --> 00:01:51.359 sort of like a young fighter, and initially you're not 34 00:01:51.400 --> 00:01:53.959 going to fight guys that can really fight. The difference 35 00:01:54.040 --> 00:01:56.799 is with him, because of the build up and the notoriety, 36 00:01:57.319 --> 00:01:59.439 you're expecting more out of him, at least, I am 37 00:02:00.120 --> 00:02:05.599 so tonight against fifty eight year old Mike Tyson. Mike 38 00:02:05.680 --> 00:02:09.280 Tyson in his prime would murder him. It's not even 39 00:02:09.319 --> 00:02:14.319 a question. Don't debate it, you can't, you'll lose. But 40 00:02:14.400 --> 00:02:18.400 now he's fighting fifty eight year old Mike Tyson, who 41 00:02:18.400 --> 00:02:21.120 you still wouldn't want to meet in the ring, no, 42 00:02:21.719 --> 00:02:24.599 or back alley or you don't You definitely don't want 43 00:02:24.599 --> 00:02:26.120 to meet him there, but you don't want to meet 44 00:02:26.159 --> 00:02:30.879 him in the ring. That being said, what do you 45 00:02:30.919 --> 00:02:38.039 think of this matchup? Rodney? I get it? First of all, 46 00:02:38.120 --> 00:02:39.840 Let me let me just say that I get it. 47 00:02:39.919 --> 00:02:43.039 You said it right off the top bed. Jake Paul 48 00:02:43.280 --> 00:02:48.560 and the Paul Brothers have mastered today's world in the 49 00:02:48.639 --> 00:02:56.280 last ten years or so, as social media has exploded 50 00:02:56.360 --> 00:03:00.199 on the universe, they figured it out early on on 51 00:03:00.319 --> 00:03:03.919 how to monetize it, whether it be YouTube, whether it 52 00:03:03.960 --> 00:03:08.400 be videos on everywhere you can think of marketing themselves. 53 00:03:08.680 --> 00:03:15.319 They much like much like the Kardashians Fred who everybody 54 00:03:15.360 --> 00:03:18.120 you know has opinion about and people hate him and whatever, 55 00:03:18.639 --> 00:03:22.479 but they figured out a way how to market themselves 56 00:03:22.680 --> 00:03:26.759 in a way that created a billion dollar industry for themselves. 57 00:03:28.319 --> 00:03:35.159 The Paul brothers similar did the same thing, and you know, 58 00:03:35.280 --> 00:03:38.199 doing crazy stunts and all that kind of stuff on YouTube. 59 00:03:38.240 --> 00:03:41.879 But you're right about his passion for boxing. He's always 60 00:03:41.919 --> 00:03:47.520 had it. If you watch any of the back behind 61 00:03:47.560 --> 00:03:50.439 the scenes or anything, you know, this guy puts in 62 00:03:50.479 --> 00:03:52.319 the time he puts in the effort, he puts in 63 00:03:52.360 --> 00:03:55.719 the work, and that's what you want to see because 64 00:03:55.719 --> 00:03:59.240 it takes the gimmicky out of out of what he's doing. 65 00:04:00.120 --> 00:04:05.039 That being said, yeah, he hasn't fought real boxers. He's 66 00:04:05.120 --> 00:04:07.919 you know, fought a few MMA guys, guys that you 67 00:04:07.960 --> 00:04:10.439 know obviously in MMA you do it all, but that 68 00:04:10.599 --> 00:04:19.680 boxing was not their their real deal. I don't care. 69 00:04:20.920 --> 00:04:24.120 Mike Tyson's fifty eight years old. If you watch Mike 70 00:04:24.199 --> 00:04:26.240 Tyson over the last couple of years train and he 71 00:04:26.279 --> 00:04:28.680 puts out these videos of him training and him in 72 00:04:28.759 --> 00:04:32.600 the gym, Mike Tyson looked like he's thirty five years old. 73 00:04:32.920 --> 00:04:35.399 I mean he is for Jake Paul. Bad news for 74 00:04:35.519 --> 00:04:40.480 Jake Paul. Here's my here's my fear. Much like was 75 00:04:40.519 --> 00:04:43.199 its brother Logan? Right? Was it? Is it? Brother Logan 76 00:04:43.319 --> 00:04:50.000 was the one that fought Floyd? I think so. Yeah, 77 00:04:50.079 --> 00:04:55.920 that was a ridiculous situation. I mean they all talked 78 00:04:55.959 --> 00:04:59.000 about Floyd basically knocking him out and holding him up 79 00:04:59.040 --> 00:05:01.120 in the corner so he and fall and they keep 80 00:05:01.120 --> 00:05:04.319 the fight going. It was a one hundred percent money grab. 81 00:05:04.399 --> 00:05:07.600 There's no way in the world he goes the distance 82 00:05:07.600 --> 00:05:12.199 with Floyd Mayweather. It was just a stunt to make 83 00:05:12.240 --> 00:05:13.680 a lot of money. And they are making a lot 84 00:05:13.720 --> 00:05:16.959 of money. Don't get me wrong, they are tremendous entrepreneurs. 85 00:05:17.680 --> 00:05:22.279 But for me, this one, if this one is not 86 00:05:22.519 --> 00:05:29.000 one sided Mike Tyson, then I'm not buying it. I'm 87 00:05:29.040 --> 00:05:31.519 not buying that. The fix is not in, like we're 88 00:05:31.519 --> 00:05:34.319 not let's give him a show. We're gonna go. I'm 89 00:05:34.319 --> 00:05:35.959 not saying he got Mike's gonnaknock him out in the 90 00:05:36.000 --> 00:05:37.759 first round or has to knock him out in the second. 91 00:05:38.319 --> 00:05:40.839 But if it goes like it's back and forth and 92 00:05:40.959 --> 00:05:43.839 it goes to six, seven, eight rounds and it's looking 93 00:05:43.920 --> 00:05:46.560 close and all that, I'm not buying it. I'm not 94 00:05:46.639 --> 00:05:48.800 buying it at all. I mean, we're talking Mike Tyson 95 00:05:49.360 --> 00:05:54.920 that can still knock you out with one punch, and 96 00:05:55.000 --> 00:05:57.639 just just listen. I don't know if you've seen any clips, 97 00:05:57.680 --> 00:05:59.759 but listen to way Roy Jones. He's been on the 98 00:05:59.800 --> 00:06:02.399 inn you circul lately. Roy Jones talked about Mike and 99 00:06:02.439 --> 00:06:06.800 how hard he hits still who fought in that in 100 00:06:06.959 --> 00:06:12.240 that exhibition match that they had for three rounds. Roy 101 00:06:12.279 --> 00:06:14.560 said it was one of the few times he was 102 00:06:14.560 --> 00:06:17.920 ever scared in the ring because Mike. It is still 103 00:06:17.959 --> 00:06:26.319 hit and Mike was hard to hit. So look, I 104 00:06:26.600 --> 00:06:29.360 get it. We're in the entertainment business. This is entertaining. 105 00:06:29.959 --> 00:06:33.800 I'm sure it's gonna get crazy ratings. You know, everybody's 106 00:06:33.800 --> 00:06:36.480 gonna tune in. They're gonna pay for it. The stadium's 107 00:06:36.480 --> 00:06:40.480 gonna be packed. It's on Netflix. Yes, it's on Netflix. 108 00:06:40.600 --> 00:06:42.680 It's gonna be packed. I think it's at what it's 109 00:06:42.680 --> 00:06:45.519 at at and T Stadium in Dallas is gonna be packed. 110 00:06:45.560 --> 00:06:47.879 It's gonna go crazy, gonna be slebs all over the place. 111 00:06:49.079 --> 00:06:52.399 But if this thing is is not one sided Mike Tyson, 112 00:06:53.079 --> 00:06:57.800 then they have an agreement going forward. Okay, So I 113 00:06:57.920 --> 00:07:00.600 kind of look at it like this. If it's not 114 00:07:01.319 --> 00:07:02.800 and I don't think it'll happen, but if it's not 115 00:07:02.879 --> 00:07:07.879 one sided one way or the other, there was some 116 00:07:07.920 --> 00:07:10.079 sort of agreement going in and people are actually betting 117 00:07:10.079 --> 00:07:13.519 on this. I mean, look, let's say, Jake Paul, how 118 00:07:13.560 --> 00:07:15.000 are you betting on this? First of all, I mean, 119 00:07:15.000 --> 00:07:17.279 I'm not to cut you off. Why would you bet 120 00:07:17.319 --> 00:07:21.959 on this? Because no, I wouldn't. But people are because 121 00:07:22.000 --> 00:07:24.680 there's there's the there's that belief in the back of 122 00:07:24.680 --> 00:07:26.720 your mind that there's a fix in there's an agreement 123 00:07:26.759 --> 00:07:29.560 here in this fight, you know, I mean, dig Pul's 124 00:07:29.600 --> 00:07:32.720 fighting Mike Tyson. Come on. So I don't know why 125 00:07:32.759 --> 00:07:35.040 people are betting on this fight, but people are. I'm sorry, 126 00:07:35.079 --> 00:07:39.160 go ahead, No, Look, I think that's another point. Uh yeah, 127 00:07:39.279 --> 00:07:41.920 If there is in fact an agreement of some sort 128 00:07:42.000 --> 00:07:48.839 in there, well then it is fixed going in and 129 00:07:48.879 --> 00:07:52.639 people are betting on it. Right. If there's any kind 130 00:07:52.639 --> 00:07:58.639 of the slightest agreement about anything, well then it's fixed 131 00:07:59.720 --> 00:08:03.839 because we're predetermining the outcome. Even if the agreement is hey, 132 00:08:04.000 --> 00:08:05.720 if somebody gets hot here, we're not going to do 133 00:08:05.720 --> 00:08:08.360 it before the seventh round. Yeah. Here's the thing. I 134 00:08:08.360 --> 00:08:14.839 would bet the farm if it's not a first round knockout. 135 00:08:16.439 --> 00:08:19.920 I'm just could you see a first round knockout? And no, 136 00:08:19.959 --> 00:08:22.839 I couldn't. Yeah, And the other side of it is 137 00:08:22.879 --> 00:08:24.560 rodn It would be the only bet that I would make, 138 00:08:24.680 --> 00:08:27.199 is like, I g I bet whatever you I can 139 00:08:27.240 --> 00:08:29.319 bet that they will well will not be a first 140 00:08:29.399 --> 00:08:35.639 round knockout. But I think I take that bet. That's good. Yeah, Yeah, 141 00:08:36.000 --> 00:08:37.720 I got that. I think Netflix is in the mix. 142 00:08:38.159 --> 00:08:41.159 All right, guys, come on now, and nobody knock anybody 143 00:08:41.200 --> 00:08:42.759 out in the first round. We need this to go 144 00:08:42.799 --> 00:08:47.399 a little bit, make it worth our while. Yes, yeah, 145 00:08:47.440 --> 00:08:49.000 but here's the thing you said. If you know, if 146 00:08:49.360 --> 00:08:53.320 Tyson really hadn't dominated, and I'll flip it. Let's say 147 00:08:53.320 --> 00:08:57.279 for whatever reason, Tyson's lost a step, Tyson slow, he's 148 00:08:57.279 --> 00:09:00.559 not what Roy Jones said, who knows, who cares. Let's 149 00:09:00.559 --> 00:09:04.639 say Jake Paul is really now dominant for whatever reason 150 00:09:04.679 --> 00:09:09.639 that happened. I would buy it. If one or the 151 00:09:09.840 --> 00:09:13.559 other is dominate, Jake Paul is dominant over Mike Tyson. 152 00:09:14.159 --> 00:09:17.399 You buy that? That what I'm saying. But I'm saying 153 00:09:18.000 --> 00:09:20.440 from the eye test, Mike Tyson is really getting beat. 154 00:09:20.960 --> 00:09:22.960 It's not like a dance. I mean, I'm saying, if 155 00:09:23.039 --> 00:09:26.279 Jake Paul is beating up Mike Tyson for seven rounds 156 00:09:26.279 --> 00:09:30.080 and dominating for seven rounds, you're buying that. I would 157 00:09:30.519 --> 00:09:33.559 the hell is wrong with you? Wait, Kevin, would you 158 00:09:33.559 --> 00:09:34.320 buy that? Kevin? 159 00:09:34.399 --> 00:09:34.919 Absolutely? 160 00:09:35.000 --> 00:09:37.559 Not, one hundred percent. Ronnie, would you buy that? 161 00:09:38.519 --> 00:09:38.960 Nope? 162 00:09:39.360 --> 00:09:42.960 But here's why. Here's why you're all wrong. Because if 163 00:09:42.960 --> 00:09:46.919 that were to happen, No, Seriously, if that were to happen, 164 00:09:47.919 --> 00:09:50.440 that would mean because Tyson's not taking a dive or 165 00:09:50.440 --> 00:09:54.080 taking a step back, that's not how he rolls. So 166 00:09:54.159 --> 00:09:57.720 I'm saying, if Jake Paul, for whatever bizarre reason, was dominant, 167 00:09:58.200 --> 00:10:01.960 it's because he was dominant because Tyson let him be dominant. 168 00:10:02.200 --> 00:10:05.120 You think Tyson would sit there, Rodney, and you've met Mike, 169 00:10:05.159 --> 00:10:07.159 you may even know him. You think he would sit 170 00:10:07.200 --> 00:10:09.480 there and say, oh, yeah, you know what, I'll let 171 00:10:09.519 --> 00:10:13.080 it go eight, no problem. What do I make dominant? 172 00:10:13.120 --> 00:10:15.039 You saying let's he can let What I'm saying, so 173 00:10:15.120 --> 00:10:17.799 it can't be fixed if one of them is overpowering. 174 00:10:18.840 --> 00:10:21.440 If one of them is overpowering, it can't be fixed. 175 00:10:21.440 --> 00:10:23.600 I think it'll be Tyson. But if on the off 176 00:10:23.720 --> 00:10:27.679 chance it was Jake Paul, that tells me dominant, dominant, 177 00:10:27.679 --> 00:10:30.480 dominant for six rounds and then what Mike knocks him 178 00:10:30.480 --> 00:10:33.320 out in the seventh, or Jake Paul goes on and 179 00:10:33.440 --> 00:10:36.639 still be dominant and and and finishes mic Off? What 180 00:10:36.679 --> 00:10:40.279 do you get that? So if Jake Paul is dominant 181 00:10:40.320 --> 00:10:42.519 in the fight and finishes mic Off and wins it, 182 00:10:43.200 --> 00:10:47.039 you're saying there's no fix involved, correct, And I also 183 00:10:47.080 --> 00:10:50.080 believe if why are you making that face? And I 184 00:10:50.120 --> 00:10:54.440 also believe if Tyson does that, if he just comes 185 00:10:54.440 --> 00:10:57.399 out and pounds the crap out of him, there's no fix. 186 00:10:58.000 --> 00:11:01.759 I'm saying, if one person is domin there's not a fix. 187 00:11:02.440 --> 00:11:05.320 That's what I'm saying. If it's as back and forth 188 00:11:05.360 --> 00:11:06.960 and a little song and a little dance and a 189 00:11:06.960 --> 00:11:09.279 little Seltzer in your pants, and we keep moving around 190 00:11:09.279 --> 00:11:11.519 and somebody gets it once in a while, okay, then 191 00:11:11.559 --> 00:11:13.360 I'm thinking, yeah, maybe they have an agreement. Let it 192 00:11:13.399 --> 00:11:16.000 go seven, let it go eight. Yeah, But I think 193 00:11:16.039 --> 00:11:19.399 if one guy is absolutely dominant. The only belief I 194 00:11:19.480 --> 00:11:22.200 have that's one guy dominant is if Mike Tyson is 195 00:11:22.240 --> 00:11:26.080 dominant over Jake Paul. Do you think Mike tell me 196 00:11:26.360 --> 00:11:32.840 yes at fifty eight one? Have you seen him train? No? No, no, no, 197 00:11:32.720 --> 00:11:35.080 no no no. That's not what I'm saying. You think 198 00:11:35.159 --> 00:11:39.120 Mike Tyson would agree, because that's what we're discussing here. 199 00:11:39.279 --> 00:11:41.960 You think Mike Tyson would agree to take a step 200 00:11:42.039 --> 00:11:45.440 back and let it go open. I'm saying it's not 201 00:11:45.480 --> 00:11:47.480 gonna happen. You're saying, if either one of them or not, 202 00:11:47.519 --> 00:11:50.039 I said that only the only person that would be 203 00:11:50.120 --> 00:11:53.759 dominant is Mike Tyson in this fight. He would be 204 00:11:53.799 --> 00:11:57.360 the only one dominant for six seven rounds. If Jake 205 00:11:57.399 --> 00:12:00.440 Paul is dominant for six seven rounds, I'm not buying 206 00:12:00.480 --> 00:12:04.480 it at all. I'm not buying it on one second. 207 00:12:05.879 --> 00:12:11.120 I mean, who he's not shown that he can fight 208 00:12:11.279 --> 00:12:17.759 a quality fighter at all, like a true boxer. Like 209 00:12:17.840 --> 00:12:23.120 even even going back to the Connor McGregor and Floyd 210 00:12:23.120 --> 00:12:28.159 Mayweather fight, right, I mean, look, God blessed Connor McGregor, 211 00:12:28.279 --> 00:12:30.519 one of the greatest MMA guys of all time, put 212 00:12:30.559 --> 00:12:32.759 the MMA for the UFC on the map. He took 213 00:12:32.799 --> 00:12:35.360 it to a whole different level with his his curate 214 00:12:35.480 --> 00:12:38.399 you know, his charisma and his style and him winning 215 00:12:38.480 --> 00:12:41.679 and dramatic finishes and all that kind of stuff. But 216 00:12:41.759 --> 00:12:44.200 he was not even close in the ring with Floyd Mayweather. 217 00:12:44.240 --> 00:12:46.919 And Floyd carried him. He knew as long as that 218 00:12:46.960 --> 00:12:49.480 fight was and then just dominating him at the end 219 00:12:49.799 --> 00:12:52.320 and did whatever he wanted to do. He knew, Okay, 220 00:12:52.519 --> 00:12:55.000 we're gonna let this go eight rounds and then I'll 221 00:12:55.200 --> 00:12:57.399 finish him at eight. But he could have finished him 222 00:12:57.399 --> 00:13:00.440 earlier than that, and his greatest. Connor will as he's 223 00:13:00.480 --> 00:13:03.960 not the boxer, and I think vice versa. If Floyd 224 00:13:04.039 --> 00:13:07.440 jumps into MMA ring, Connor could finish him in thirty 225 00:13:07.480 --> 00:13:11.080 seconds and but wouldn't and probably would make it last 226 00:13:11.080 --> 00:13:16.600 for three rounds in this case. No, the only dominant 227 00:13:16.879 --> 00:13:20.000 performer in this case that I would believe is if 228 00:13:20.080 --> 00:13:25.960 Mike is the dominant one. All right, well, let's hear 229 00:13:26.080 --> 00:13:31.080 from Jake Paul when he was questioned about fighting real fighters. 230 00:13:31.559 --> 00:13:33.919 Yes, this is Jacob Detamore with the ticket in Dallas's 231 00:13:33.960 --> 00:13:36.559 question is for Jake. Jake, you were just talking about 232 00:13:36.559 --> 00:13:38.840 your career and how it's grown, and you've said in 233 00:13:38.879 --> 00:13:40.639 the past and you want to be taken seriously as 234 00:13:40.639 --> 00:13:44.639 a boxer. So if that is your goal, when can 235 00:13:44.679 --> 00:13:48.120 we expect you to start fighting legitimate contending fighters in 236 00:13:48.159 --> 00:13:49.159 your given weight class. 237 00:13:49.559 --> 00:13:52.320 I think you're the same dumbass from the other venue 238 00:13:52.440 --> 00:13:56.480 as that question. He didn't answer you, and you're sitting 239 00:13:56.519 --> 00:14:00.159 here disrespecting Mike Tyson into his face once again. I 240 00:14:00.200 --> 00:14:05.600 think that he's a serious boxer. He he walks away. 241 00:14:07.919 --> 00:14:11.799 All right, what do you say that responds it's a 242 00:14:11.840 --> 00:14:15.720 cop out. It's a cop out. He asked a legitimate question, 243 00:14:16.039 --> 00:14:19.039 why haven't you fought anybody, fought anybody in your weight 244 00:14:19.080 --> 00:14:22.159 class that is a legitimate contender. There's a simple question. 245 00:14:23.000 --> 00:14:27.879 It wasn't disrespecting Mike Tyson. It was like, how why 246 00:14:28.480 --> 00:14:32.399 you're you're doing all these circuits, these these kind of 247 00:14:32.440 --> 00:14:34.720 big venue and I get it. You're doing it on 248 00:14:34.759 --> 00:14:36.720 your own terms. You're making a lot more money than 249 00:14:37.000 --> 00:14:40.679 Bob Ahm or Don King could get you, probably, and 250 00:14:40.720 --> 00:14:42.440 you're doing it your way. And I have no problem 251 00:14:42.519 --> 00:14:44.440 with that. I have no problem with guys with their 252 00:14:44.440 --> 00:14:47.320 own you know, podcasts and their own accounts, you know, 253 00:14:47.440 --> 00:14:50.679 setting the record straight for themselves. I believe in empowering 254 00:14:50.720 --> 00:14:55.039 the individual. But there's something to be said that he 255 00:14:55.120 --> 00:15:02.720 hasn't fought a real like have you weight contender Tyson 256 00:15:02.840 --> 00:15:08.960 Fury or you know, even a recent retired Clitchkoe or 257 00:15:08.960 --> 00:15:11.399 somebody like that. Why haven't fought one of those guys 258 00:15:11.720 --> 00:15:13.600 or a couple of those guys leading up to this. 259 00:15:16.399 --> 00:15:19.440 That's a legitimate question, and he copped out by throwing 260 00:15:19.480 --> 00:15:21.720 it on Mike Tyson, telling the guy who was disrespecting 261 00:15:21.759 --> 00:15:25.559 Mike Tyson, Kevin, do you think this is legit tonight. 262 00:15:26.519 --> 00:15:30.120 No, and h tak you back off of what the 263 00:15:30.320 --> 00:15:32.840 gentleman from the Dallas Star or whatever he's from asked, Like, 264 00:15:32.919 --> 00:15:35.000 until you fight a legitimate fighter, I'm not gonna take 265 00:15:35.039 --> 00:15:39.080 any of this stuff seriously, washed up MMA guys. Yeah, 266 00:15:39.240 --> 00:15:41.720 with all due respect to Mike Tyson who's sixty years old, 267 00:15:41.919 --> 00:15:43.840 no fight Deontay Wilder. 268 00:15:43.879 --> 00:15:45.559 Then I'll take you seriously. 269 00:15:45.399 --> 00:15:49.440 Exactly exactly, fight somebody in their prime who is a 270 00:15:49.519 --> 00:15:56.759 legitimate one two, three, five fifth contender in boxing. Then 271 00:15:56.799 --> 00:15:58.720 we can then we can have a real and fight 272 00:15:58.799 --> 00:16:00.600 him in a twelve round about. 273 00:16:01.720 --> 00:16:04.440 Yeah, twelve rounds three minutes around, because I think tonight's 274 00:16:04.480 --> 00:16:09.399 only two minutes around, right, so actual professional boxing rules apply. 275 00:16:10.519 --> 00:16:13.440 Then I'll take you seriously, win or lose, because you 276 00:16:13.440 --> 00:16:15.159 can show yourself well and still lose him. 277 00:16:15.200 --> 00:16:18.080 Like, all right, respect, Right, he's got Yeah, he's got respect. 278 00:16:18.120 --> 00:16:22.679 He can he can hold his own. But in the 279 00:16:22.720 --> 00:16:25.200 back of I can't. In the back of everybody's mind, 280 00:16:25.919 --> 00:16:28.759 whenever they fight, it's like there's an agreement going on, 281 00:16:31.480 --> 00:16:33.840 and you can't cry trying to be legitimate. If you're 282 00:16:33.840 --> 00:16:39.840 not willing to go somewhat legitimate, Okay, I'll fight whoever 283 00:16:40.159 --> 00:16:42.720 sign me up, I'll fight. I'll go through three fights. 284 00:16:43.159 --> 00:16:45.000 It would have been better if you went through three fights, 285 00:16:45.039 --> 00:16:47.279 and he could have fought. Doesn't have to be the 286 00:16:47.279 --> 00:16:49.360 top ten contender. He could have been a fighting the 287 00:16:49.399 --> 00:16:52.440 top twelve contender leading up to this Mike Tyson fight, 288 00:16:52.679 --> 00:16:58.960 so we could see him in a real sanction WBC, WBA, 289 00:16:59.159 --> 00:17:04.000 whatever twelve round about with a heavyweight, a real heavyweight boxer, 290 00:17:05.440 --> 00:17:06.599 then I'll take you serious. 291 00:17:06.880 --> 00:17:08.880 Yeah, And you don't even have to fight someone serious 292 00:17:08.880 --> 00:17:12.319 like Wilder Joshua. Look at the WBC's you know, top 293 00:17:12.400 --> 00:17:15.799 fifteen ranking and fight number fifteen and fourteen and thirteen 294 00:17:15.799 --> 00:17:17.519 and wake your way up like everybody else does. 295 00:17:17.799 --> 00:17:19.440 But those are at least legitimate boxers. 296 00:17:20.480 --> 00:17:22.160 Do anythink it plays out tonight, Kevin? 297 00:17:23.400 --> 00:17:25.400 I think Tyxon wins. I think Tyxon knocks him out. 298 00:17:27.160 --> 00:17:30.440 Well, then that would tell me it's legit, and that's 299 00:17:30.519 --> 00:17:37.839 real and and knowing, and I do know Mike, And look, look, 300 00:17:38.519 --> 00:17:43.440 nobody's nobody's immune to a big payday. This this be 301 00:17:43.440 --> 00:17:49.359 be be clear about that. And and certainly not, certainly 302 00:17:49.400 --> 00:17:52.240 not Mike, and we saw certainly Floyd was not either. 303 00:17:54.359 --> 00:17:59.799 But I also know Mike is extremely prideful, and Mike 304 00:17:59.880 --> 00:18:04.720 is one of those guys that as much as you 305 00:18:04.920 --> 00:18:08.480 think you have something or an agreement going on, Mike 306 00:18:08.519 --> 00:18:12.119 gets in the ring, Mike's a different guy. Everything goes 307 00:18:12.119 --> 00:18:15.240 out the window. So that's what I'm I'm expecting to 308 00:18:15.240 --> 00:18:22.839 see is, Yes, we talked about this, Mike it easy 309 00:18:22.920 --> 00:18:26.799 for the first four rounds, but that ain't in Mike's makeup, 310 00:18:27.039 --> 00:18:29.680 and he turns in into a different person when he 311 00:18:29.759 --> 00:18:31.480 crosses the line or steps into the ring. 312 00:18:32.039 --> 00:18:33.680 And I would even say for it, even if it 313 00:18:33.720 --> 00:18:35.960 is legit one hundred percent only up and up, it 314 00:18:36.039 --> 00:18:38.440 still doesn't matter because you're fighting someone who could be 315 00:18:38.480 --> 00:18:41.400 your father, right in some sense his grandfather. I guess 316 00:18:41.440 --> 00:18:44.400 I don't know, Like so I can't take that seriously 317 00:18:44.440 --> 00:18:46.640 regardless of what happens, regardless of if it's a legit, on 318 00:18:46.680 --> 00:18:47.640 the up and up fight or not. 319 00:18:47.920 --> 00:18:49.759 Cause you mentioned I mean it, could you know, get 320 00:18:49.799 --> 00:18:52.599 into the third round and at fifty eight, Mike, no 321 00:18:52.599 --> 00:18:56.319 matter how long he's trained, whatever, stamina wise, he's ran 322 00:18:56.359 --> 00:18:57.039 out of gas. 323 00:18:57.279 --> 00:18:59.039 We ain't never had much stamina. Yeah, I never had 324 00:18:59.079 --> 00:19:00.079 much stamin it's to begin with. 325 00:19:01.240 --> 00:19:04.400 Yeah, so that could be the case. Where that's why 326 00:19:04.480 --> 00:19:07.440 you fight somebody younger and and figure it out if 327 00:19:07.480 --> 00:19:11.319 you if this is legit, because if it does, you know, 328 00:19:11.519 --> 00:19:14.759 lasts longer and longer. It's like, oh, you know, Mike's 329 00:19:14.799 --> 00:19:16.920 gonna get tired. Mike gets tired, he gets caught by 330 00:19:16.960 --> 00:19:22.599 one and then all have done. People go crazy. Well, 331 00:19:23.880 --> 00:19:27.319 you still think this can be legit? Okay, you don't 332 00:19:27.359 --> 00:19:30.319 think it's legit. I'm just saying you can be legit. 333 00:19:31.359 --> 00:19:33.839 I think if somebody knocked My point is when it 334 00:19:33.880 --> 00:19:37.799 comes down to is it legit. If somebody gets knocked out, 335 00:19:38.039 --> 00:19:42.960 that's legit. If somebody gets knocked out, there's no agreement here. 336 00:19:43.960 --> 00:19:47.079 Somebody got knocked out. Boom. Let me ask you this 337 00:19:47.279 --> 00:19:52.279 is there any shot this is Is there any shot 338 00:19:52.359 --> 00:19:59.880 that Jake Paul gets knocked out in the first two rounds? Yes, 339 00:20:00.880 --> 00:20:03.559 there is. You're saying there is. I'm saying in the 340 00:20:03.599 --> 00:20:09.279 second round he could get knocked out. Yes, you just 341 00:20:09.279 --> 00:20:13.559 said Tyson's prideful he is, okay, and I agree with that. 342 00:20:14.680 --> 00:20:16.200 You think if he's got a shot, he's not gonna 343 00:20:16.200 --> 00:20:23.359 take it again. It goes back to the agreement, goes 344 00:20:23.400 --> 00:20:26.279 back to the agreement. I'm not saying that you know 345 00:20:27.799 --> 00:20:30.720 Mike's gonna lay down. He's not gonna lay down, but 346 00:20:33.960 --> 00:20:36.839 there's no first round knockout. And Tonight's thing too much hype, 347 00:20:36.920 --> 00:20:40.079 too much build up, too much money involved, not a 348 00:20:40.119 --> 00:20:43.279 first round knockout or a second round knockout. All right, 349 00:20:43.359 --> 00:20:45.279 let me ask you this. So let's say Tyson does 350 00:20:45.279 --> 00:20:48.400 get him, knocks him out at some point, all right, 351 00:20:48.960 --> 00:20:51.519 and you think that's what's gonna happen if this is legit. 352 00:20:52.240 --> 00:20:53.839 So if Tyson knocks him out, what does that do 353 00:20:53.920 --> 00:20:55.480 to Jake Paul He just got beat by a fifty 354 00:20:55.480 --> 00:20:59.839 eight year old man. Yeah, it does, but I don't 355 00:20:59.839 --> 00:21:02.759 think it does a whole lot because he's he's willing 356 00:21:02.799 --> 00:21:04.319 to step in the ring, and I think people will 357 00:21:04.319 --> 00:21:07.240 give him even probably give me more respect because he 358 00:21:07.279 --> 00:21:09.480 did get in the ring and traded punching with Mike Tyson. 359 00:21:09.680 --> 00:21:13.279 Fifty eight or not, He's still Mike Tyson. And you know, 360 00:21:13.400 --> 00:21:16.359 for a certain period of time, Mike can still be Mike. Now, 361 00:21:16.400 --> 00:21:18.799 Mike can't be Mike for twelve rounds, Mike can't be 362 00:21:18.880 --> 00:21:22.519 Mike for six rounds, But for two or three rounds, 363 00:21:22.559 --> 00:21:27.279 Mike Tyson can knock anybody out and and I think 364 00:21:27.279 --> 00:21:30.440 people will give him, give him respect to that level, 365 00:21:33.960 --> 00:21:38.160 but he still's got it. He still has to fight 366 00:21:38.319 --> 00:21:43.720 a contender, a real contender, and and like Kevi said, 367 00:21:43.880 --> 00:21:46.279 doesn't have to be the number one contender in a WBC, 368 00:21:46.400 --> 00:21:50.519 a WBA, but it could be fifteen, fourteen, thirteen, twelve 369 00:21:51.799 --> 00:21:54.400 and and and do one of those or two of 370 00:21:54.440 --> 00:21:57.599 those fights where we can see you fight a legitimate 371 00:21:57.640 --> 00:22:04.079 boxer that has that will definitely not let an amateur 372 00:22:05.079 --> 00:22:08.880 come in and and and take away his status as 373 00:22:08.880 --> 00:22:13.039 a boxer. I mean, those guys will never compromise in 374 00:22:13.160 --> 00:22:17.319 terms of I'm trying to build myself up and fight 375 00:22:17.359 --> 00:22:20.319 for a championship. I'm gonna lose to a YouTuber. There's 376 00:22:20.400 --> 00:22:22.440 no way in the world at the top, you know, 377 00:22:22.559 --> 00:22:25.759 say that the eighth ranked boxer in the WBC is 378 00:22:25.759 --> 00:22:27.599 going to do that. So fight one of those guys 379 00:22:27.680 --> 00:22:29.519 that you know is gonna come in ready to go, 380 00:22:30.839 --> 00:22:33.559 and then I'll then I'll give you legitimacy, or. 381 00:22:33.680 --> 00:22:35.240 You know, sign up with a big I know he 382 00:22:35.359 --> 00:22:37.519 has his own thing and he's making money, but sign 383 00:22:37.640 --> 00:22:41.000 up with an actual, legit, big time promotion, because then 384 00:22:41.039 --> 00:22:43.480 that takes away any notion that there's somebody's on the 385 00:22:43.519 --> 00:22:44.799 take or there's something going on. 386 00:22:44.759 --> 00:22:46.880 Go to Oscar de la Hoya and sign and do 387 00:22:47.000 --> 00:22:50.400 promoting with him. Right, all right, So here's the question 388 00:22:50.599 --> 00:22:53.640 at A six nine eighty seven, because I think this 389 00:22:53.759 --> 00:22:56.440 is something folks are going to be talking about, uh 390 00:22:56.880 --> 00:22:58.960 before the fight, we are after the fight, I think 391 00:22:59.000 --> 00:23:04.000 all weekend long in your mind? Is this legit? You 392 00:23:04.000 --> 00:23:05.960 have Jake Paul trying to build a career. He's done 393 00:23:06.000 --> 00:23:09.599 it in social media, he's done it virally. He's trying 394 00:23:09.640 --> 00:23:11.559 to build a career as a boxer. Rodney mentioned he 395 00:23:11.599 --> 00:23:13.599 works out. He's in the gym. You can see that. 396 00:23:13.720 --> 00:23:16.559 So he's got skills. Don't get me wrong, he's got skills. 397 00:23:16.960 --> 00:23:19.079 I mean you watch him. He is. He's definitely got 398 00:23:19.079 --> 00:23:21.359 boxing skills and it's really worked at it. I'm not 399 00:23:21.400 --> 00:23:23.359 taking that away from him at all. All right, So 400 00:23:23.440 --> 00:23:26.200 he's got that. His next opponent is fifty eight year 401 00:23:26.240 --> 00:23:31.319