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bite former b YU great quarterback. We got Steve Clements

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on the Live.

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Speaker 3: Steve. How you living, Buddy?

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Speaker 4: I'm good, Ben. How are you my friend?

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Speaker 2: Hey, I'm doing fantastic living the dream man number one?

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Speaker 3: How's the fam? How's work? How's life?

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Speaker 4: Oh, life of glorious? FAM's great? Getting ready for Christmas?

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All the things that go around, all the madness and

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the method to the madness and everything above, all of

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the above. That's good, man, really good, Love it man.

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Speaker 3: Blessings on blessings.

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Speaker 2: How would you describe this BYU Cougar football season? Right

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eleven and two, you're only two losses or to the

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number team in the country.

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Speaker 3: That number four team could be the national champion.

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Speaker 2: At the end of the year, You're going to the

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Orlando pop tarch Bawl and taking on a top twenty

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five opponent.

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Speaker 3: In Georgia Tech. How would you describe this season.

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Speaker 4: I believe I predicted. I believe it was nine and four.

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So for me individually, it was a success, and I

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think generally speaking, in my opinion, it's a success. I

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think what is happening in the last three years is

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there's now a pattern of consistency, and now with that

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comes expectations, and you're always going to have unrealistic expectations

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from the fan base, whatever school you're cheering for, whatever

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NFL team, sports team, or whatever. There's always going to

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be that sect of fans that are very unrealistic in

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the expectations. And that's fine, that's great. That's what makes

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sports great too, because a fan is a is short

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for fanatic, right, that's kind of That's a great thing

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about sports and following a team and getting behind someone

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and supporting them almost till death to his part. It's

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in some facets of that. I don't go to that extreme,

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but for me it was a success for many of

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the things you just outlined. Our two losses are from

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a lot of fun to say, could be a national

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champion twenty twenty six. When it's all said and done,

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they have a extraordinary defense. They're all building a program

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of consistency. Jack was not even when the Leech was

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there and Mahomes and you know, they started to be

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on the radar, but still they were, you know, their

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best string of victories or when loss records were probably

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nine and three and eight and four, and they were

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never in the national picture ever, at least in football.

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And so there's a lot of up and comers and

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I think byu is now is returning to that pattern

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of consistency over the last couple of years. And sure

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expectations are going to be a little bit harder, but

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our expectations aren't going to be any higher than the

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head coach himself or a Rod or Jay Hill themselves,

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or the players themselves. So I mean that's it's not

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gonna be anything foreign to those guys because they're they're

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not competing against teams a lot of times, they're competing

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against themselves and how can they can better themselves? Kilania,

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how can he better himself as a head football coach

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and a leader of b YU football And so we

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always have I mean, if you're you're done it the

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right way, these these realistic expectations that are also measurable.

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So in sport you measure success or failure really by

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wins and losses, and sometimes that's very unfair in sports.

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That's why we keep score. There's a winner and there's

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a loser. I wants you're a play soccer, then there

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could be a tie. But I digress. And so for me,

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long answer, short answer, yes, absolutely success.

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Speaker 2: So an overachieving success. It sounds like from your your

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your evaluation, right, an overachieving success. Going eleven and two,

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you predicted nine and four correct, Okay, even though it

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was the better throwing right handed tim Tebo that was

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leading BYU to glorin victory, you said nine and.

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Speaker 4: Four, right, that's right, that's right. You know what you

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know and you don't know what you don't know.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 2: So for those b YU fans that are a little

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troubled by the offense still, they feel like, hey, we're

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missing something offensively. A ROD is missing something offensive. This

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is what I'm getting back, right. They're very happy about

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the defense, very happy about special teams overall the last

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couple of years.

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Speaker 3: They feel like there's.

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Speaker 2: A little bit of a void, little bit of much

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needed improvement somewhere, and they want an analyst to come

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in and support a ROD what's your reaction to that?

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When you hear those commentaries, those evaluation from fans, I mean,

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I mean, I'm getting hit up about it, right, They're like, hey,

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why not get an analyus like Gary Anderson that on

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the office side of the ball.

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Speaker 3: That's what they're saying.

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Speaker 4: Your reaction, right, boy, offense is very very difficult to call,

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to manage, to coordinate.

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Speaker 2: And everybody knows you were how long did you coach?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 2: And then how how many years did you coach and

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coordinate on the offense side of the ball, And for like,

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you know, give me a lit little bit of the

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resume so that we know what we're talking about here

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when we're where we're talking ball here and coordinating on

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the offense side of the ball.

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Speaker 4: Well, I always played. I played on the offense side

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of the ball, playing quarterback my entire life.

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Speaker 2: All American, coming out of high school in Texas, Okay,

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all American, went to UT right and then transferred to BYU.

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Speaker 4: Correct. There's two plays in high school when I was

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a sophomore and which I got in on defense. We're

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beating the team fifty six to nothing. One of our

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safeties goes down and right next I'm standing right next

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to the defensive Cordyor I got my helmet off, like

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I'm done for the game this second half and we're

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whooping these dudes and he's looking around he needs a

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sub right now, Clement's go in. Well, I'm a sophomore, okay.

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And Dad was never he was my coach, and he

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would never allow me to play defense ever, because if

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he loses me, you don't just lose you know, a

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really good quarterback, you lose a second position on defense too, Right,

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So I couldn't hold, I couldn't punt, I could do

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anything but throw the freaking pigskin because people are going

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to take cheap shots, and so I did that. I

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had the same philosophy or my quarterbacks when I coached

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in high school. So I coached in high school. After that,

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I'm still coaching. So it's been thirty years, and outside

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of the last couple of years on the fifth grade

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B team team, I've coached offense. I was a defensive

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coordinator for this fifth grade team last year. But yeah,

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the majority ninety five percent of my coaching career was

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on the offensive side, and so I get it, like

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Speaker 2: Okay, So when you hear that, that's the feedback that

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I'm getting right now, your reaction to it, and you

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were saying how difficult it is.

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Speaker 4: So I will say I was at the game in

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Cowboys Stadium, and I was frustrated. I yelled for the

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first time. I haven't. I don't typically yell in person

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at a game because until well, you really think they

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can hear you. It's like yelling, you know, through the TV.

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But some way, somewhere in your brain you're like, yeah,

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they're gonna they're gonna hear this one. They might not

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hear everybody else, but watch they're gonna hear this, and

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they're gonna change and they're gonna do what I want

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them to do. I was frustrated we were not throwing

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the ball down the field vertically. In the West Coast offense,

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we learned to stretch. We're not just stretching horizontally. You

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stretch vertically too. Even if a receiver is at thirty

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yards down the field and you throw it at fifty,

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the dB has to least at some point go I

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may need to take it a half a step back

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because there is a threat. There is a potential for

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us to go down the field and having an explosive

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play over the top of me. And I was very

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frustrated that we didn't push the ball vertically down on

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the field, except really for the one time we had

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to pass interference call and got us fifteen yards but

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against the Chase Roberts, I believe. But other than that,

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it was we were going east and west with our

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throw game, you know, and and that was, yeah, I was.

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I was frustrated with it. And and I probably I

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think what a wader was probably trying to do or

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trying to wear out the defensive line and and run

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them east and west back and forth. That's that's a

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conjecture on my part because again it's really really hard.

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I think we should have thrown the ball generally more

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throughout the year, as Bear progressed in the throw game

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than we did. He is extremely accurate and way more

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accurate than I probably gave him credit for. But only

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seeing him, you know, just before the season in practice, like, yeah,

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he can throw it too. You hear about the running

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and you see the legs and the backside and you're like, Okay,

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he's gonna be a dude. But yeah, there's he's gonna

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be a better throwing Tim Peele. He's way better throwing

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than Tim Deepot. But I thought coming into the season,

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yeah he's a little bit better. No no, no, no, no,

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he's way better. And I think it at some point,

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hopefully this next year or maybe even this or bowl game,

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we just cut him loose and give him fifty six

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attempts and go, okay, let's go, let's get ready for

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next year. We're gonna we're gonna throw the crap out

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of the ball. It's a bowl game, last game of

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the year. Let's let's take the training wheels off and

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let's go.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 2: So that being said, it sounds like you're open to

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a senior analyst coming into uh maybe aid and support

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a rod.

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Speaker 3: How difficult is that though?

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Speaker 2: To have someone in here, you gotta trust them at

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senior analysts that you really trust, that you have great

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rapport with, right like that that's not you know, confrontational,

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and that he's uh.

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Speaker 3: On the team. You know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: They're an analyst, right, who's the who's the perfect Who's

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the perfect analyst? The senior analyst to be right there

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next to a rod in the booth helping him call plays, telling.

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Speaker 3: Them, Hey, let's push the ball downfield.

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Speaker 2: I think we can get We have a few wide

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shoes that can win on the outside.

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Speaker 3: Let's go.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I'll do it. I mean, why not, let's go.

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I don't know, that's a good question. I I haven't

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thought about that until you just said it. As far

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as bringing an analysis analyst in on that side of

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the ball, yeah, I know, coach and on the defensive

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side of the ball, Wow, I don't know. I really

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think about someone with that type of experience, that, like

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you said, has those qualities. It's it's not one that's gonna.

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Speaker 3: Go because the reason why I say here is.

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Speaker 4: A buck for his job.

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Speaker 2: Anderson analyst that's in his he's in the twilight of

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his career. He's been a head coach, he's been a DC,

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he's like a part time senior analyst, and he's got

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great rapport with Jay Hill, right, Like, there's really good

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balance in all that.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: You know, we've seen Sark be an offensive analyst at

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Alabama when he was kind of coming off of you know,

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it felt like Nick Saban was the guy to bring

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in like head coaches that had fallen from Grace that

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had coordinating ability, and then he'd pay him a nice

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salary to be around one of the best programs, if

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not the best program at the time. So like, you

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could do something like that, Uh, there's no doubt about it.

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Or you can bring in someone like Gary. I don't

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know what the answer is, but I'm just id eighty here.

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This is uh, this is radio right. Let me let

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me take a step back here. Who's the greatest offensive

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coordinator in b YU football history Steve And how many

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fans wanted him fired? What percentage of fans wanted him

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fired even when he was at his peace?

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Speaker 4: That's that, Yeah, well that's norm.

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Speaker 3: Show about half of them want him fired.

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Speaker 4: Well, I was one of them, and I played for

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him because and and and but I will I will

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always say this, even though there was something said and

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represented that didn't necessarily come true when I was there playing,

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I have never ever denied the fact that I think

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he was the greatest offensive line in football in that

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era because his ability to really adjust on the fly,

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not just have a great game plan, but adjust on

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the fly. And he didn't coach the quarterbacks. He didn't

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coach the receivers. He didn't coach alignment. He coached every

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single position, down to how to break on a curl

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route or I mean, he was so smart at every

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position and knew exactly what everybody needed to do and

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how to get there in the technique that was required

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to get there. Man, when you have one of your

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philosophies is well, I think the biggest one, the one

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that stands out the most is I want somebody to

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who makes plays. I don't care what they look like.

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I don't care how tall, short, fast, slow, whatever. Can

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you make plays? Period? Now you would take specifically to

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the receivers. He would say the I'm gonna get this right.

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Dredge is gonna kill me if I don't get this right.

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The difficult catches a routine. The impossible catches just take

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a little bit more time. So there was really no

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room for error with his philosophy, especially with receivers. I mean,

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he was a mini perfectionist, and he was really really

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good at what he did. A master I think.

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Speaker 3: Of it.

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Speaker 4: Even though we had our differences as far as playing

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time and whatever else, I'm not denying the fact that

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the man was a freaking genius. And a lot of

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what Leech learned was from obviously BYU and Norm was

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there so and learned from those guys as well. I

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don't know what he's doing, but I know he's been

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retired for quite some time.

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Speaker 3: He's seventy nineties was eighty enormous.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, and I think he got more into the

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you know, when he went pro there the latter part

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of his career, he was already gearing his offense towards

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that more of a run dominating offense that he had

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kind of moved away from. You know, the fifty two

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to fifty two tig in San Diego State, the Aztecs

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back in the day in the early nineties and those

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type of games that we had there in the early

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nineties when I was playing there. But yeah, I don't

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have to think about a name as far as that's concerned.

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Now you look at Stark, he's in I don't think

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he's the one that's ever gonna give that up. Like

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if they were bringing analysis in there, what he did

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early at UT, he brought an analyst in, but it

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was Gary Patterson had TCU. Well, he's a defensive guy

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as an offensive coach that was more for the defensive side,

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and so I don't know if he'd even you know,

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want analyst around. I mean, if if it was somebody

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like Kiffin or somebody, but that's not happening anytime soon.

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So I don't know. That's a that's actually that's a

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really good question on who. I don't think about that.

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Speaker 2: Hey man, Well, hey, search pondered pranoid and prep prep

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you for it, but it just had a little ideation

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session with you here on your Utai ESPN radio. Never

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Steve Plymott's former b League quarterback, here on your on

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your Cougar Sports show.

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Speaker 3: Last thing before you.

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Speaker 2: Let you go, Steve, if b YU wins, okay, Like,

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does your satisfaction and how you view this season is

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some of it determined by how b what you finishes

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this season at the bowl game. You got to get

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a win for this to be like one of the

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best seasons in BWA football history.

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Speaker 4: No, uh huh, I don't. I really don't. I think

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I think we got shrew not being in the playoffs

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right now, and so once that happened, it was and

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I still think again that's tongue in cheek. I'm I

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still think we had a successful season overall. I think

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we had a successful season even before we played the

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championship game, regardless of the outcome, but especially now, both

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games are just a man, those are those are tough

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because after a season like this and it's it's really good,

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and then it's like you kind of fall off the

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cliff and psychologically and mentally and we're almost there and

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then we have to rely on a group of you

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know people to decide whether we're in this college football

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playoffs or not. And and really not based on resume

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per se, because I mean, we had one of the

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better resumes in those you know, ladder six teams that

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made it. Maybe not the first six or seven there

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it is, but you know the latter part of seven,

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eight through twelve.

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Speaker 3: But we got.

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Speaker 4: Punished for playing in a championship game. Alabama did not,

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and then our record spoke for itself, and yeah, we

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just we got the raw end of the deal. But

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I at least in my mind, I think I thought

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it was already a success before that. So nothing's going

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to change my mind anything that happens from here on out.

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Speaker 2: So let's go Steve Clemens, Ladies and gentlemen. Steve always

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appreciate our time together. Thanks for hopping on. We'll catch

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up you again soon. Thanks for another keeping up with

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Speaker 4: Hi brother, take care man.

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