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Speaker 4: Of course, there is one story that is at the
top of the news regardless of where you are in
this world of ours, well most places in the world.
That is the death of Pope Francis, who passed away
in Rome with the Vatican seven point thirty five am
this morning. The accolades for this Pope are pouring in.
Speaker 2: From all over the world.
Speaker 4: Of course, many of the voices of his critics are
muted today, and there were many, But overall, this pope
is being remembered as charismatic, as someone who showed a
great deal of compassion for people that are quote unquote marginalized.
You can look in the New York Times, Washington Post,
all the major publications around America, including even the local
ones in New York the Daily News. Pope Francis, the
charismatic and conciliatory Argentinian.
Speaker 2: Who moved to.
Speaker 4: Liberalize the Roman Catholic Church, dramatically reorienting the papacy's posture
toward homosexuality and modestly expanding the role of women at Mass.
Died early Monday, hours after making his last public appearance
Easter Sunday. He was eighty eight. Of course, there are
many many people noting that well I read, he couldn't
have choreographed this better. It couldn't have been choreographed better.
With his passing coming as Easter season twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2: Wrapped up.
Speaker 4: He taught us to live the values of the Gospel
with faithfuless, courage, universal love, especially for the poorest and
marginalize is one of the more remarks from Cardinal Kevin Farrell.
Speaker 2: Jd.
Speaker 4: Vance, of course, was present in Rome in his one
of his last public appearances. So I would love to
know what you thought about this Pope, what your feelings
are when we take calls, and we may take calls
earlier than normal today, Cardinal Timothy Dolan, the Archbishop of
New York, remember Pope Francis at Pope at St.
Speaker 2: Patricks Cathedral.
Speaker 4: We can never choreograph our own birth or death, can we?
That's always in guard God's hands. But Buddy said, if
you could choreograph it, you couldn't choreograph it any better.
Speaker 2: Than what happened. The u inn.
Speaker 4: A General Secretary Antonio offered his condolences to Catholics, lauded
Pope Francis as a messenger of hope, humility, and humanity.
Gutierres added that Pope Francis had left the legacy of faith,
service and compassion for all, especially those left on the
margins of life were trapped, excuse me by the horrors
of conflict. Donald Trump, President of these United States of America,
spoke ahead of the White House Easter egg role today,
said he had ordered flags around this country at half
staff in honor of Pope Francis, who was a good man.
Trump said, there are many guesses of what is coming
next for the Catholic Church. One of the analysis that
I read of the many said, this is a crossword
roads for the church, whether it will find its next
pope to be a person that continues the legacy of
Pope Francis.
Speaker 5: Or.
Speaker 4: Whether it will return to a more conservative viewpoint. There's
no question that this pope made an impact, had an impact,
I think one of the things that And I am
not a person that believes in criticizing or using the
period even people that are not in the limelight as
much as the Pope was. I'm not a person that
believes that we should use the occasion of someone's death
to heep all kind of.
Speaker 2: Negative energy.
Speaker 4: But I will say that I found some of the
Pope's remarks about especially when it concerned migration, to be
a little bit troubling, not a little bit, a lot troubling, frankly,
And there is no there is no there's no way
that I can downplay that. And you hear it today
and some of the other news stories that are going on.
I have a SoundBite that we will get to from
MSNBC Mika Brazinski, of course, using the passing of the
pope in connection with another story that is at the
top of the news here in America, that this continued
absurd quest to ignore everything that can be ignored and
make Kilmar out Abregio Garcia some kind of national hero
or an international hero. You have Democrats running down to
El Salvador for their follow up photo ops, hoping that
some of the limelight that Van Holland from Maryland got
Senator van Holland will shine on them too. There's a
delegation of four that at least four congress people, including
this one very liberal congress woman from Oregon, who's down
there to see whether they can gone or some attention.
Van Holland was all over the news this week and
taking his victory lap on liberal outlets.
Speaker 2: It was this weekend, and we have that bite too.
Speaker 4: We'll share with you that we learn who paid for
the trip, of course, no surprise, but.
Speaker 2: That aside. One of the things that I fear is that.
Speaker 4: We're at an age where standing for what is right,
what used to be accepted as universal, universally right, is
now in question. It is the left that has taken
this world into a state of moral relativism. Everything's relative.
What used to be right, Well maybe it's not so
much right. This goes on from everything through this absurd
reality that we live in now, where people believe that
biology isn't biology, and an entire political movement has now
been built around the idea that what's right, what is
known to be factual, is not in fact factual at all,
And the same thing has happened with things that many
of us believed to be right. Well, maybe you're wrong.
What do I mean? I mean this simple notion that
unless a law is highly immoral, that the laws of
a nation should be followed. That used to be just
without question. Now it's convenient to bend and shape the
law to meet your political objectives. I'm speaking about illegal
immigration countries or countries where it was assumed had the
right to decide who would enter their country who would
not America, no different than any other country, the right
to decide who comes in your country, who legally is
permitted in the country. And it used to be that
the church, the church, be it the Catholic Church, be
it churches in the Protestant world, be it institutions, spiritual
institutions were pretty consistent with the idea that the laws
of a nation, assuming again we're not assuming that unjust
the laws things that are clearly immoral, but within the
bounds of morality, that people should abide by the laws
of their country. And this was taught in church, it
was taught in all churches. It was taught to respect
the laws of your land. That's no longer the case.
And when you have leadership of the church helping to
blur the lines, it certainly makes it a little bit
more difficult for a society, right, wrong, whatever it's it's
that's one of the consequences I think that has happened
with this paper. See and again, I don't want to
spend all day trying to negate the good works the
good man that Pope Francis was. There's no question that
Pope Francis was a good man. There's no question the
fact that he had he came from a Jesuit background.
There's no question that he was strongly convicted with his beliefs.
There's no question that the Pope tried to help the poor,
that he tried to do his best to be the
best pope he could be as he saw it. And
I do not feel myself, by the way, in any
kind of spiritual framework, that I would create a size
him and say, well, the Pope was wrong.
Speaker 2: I'm not going there.
Speaker 4: I'm noticing and trying to point out things that I
observe that that troubled me during his papacy. And it
didn't just go to political issues like look when the
church when any I'm talking about the institutions. When the
institutions that are the underpinning of morality in a society
start to break down, then you see it reflected through
all of society. That is my point eight hundred and
eighty four, eight nine. I'm going way over time, and
I fear I'm not articulating this exactly the way I
want to I am. I'm trying to be very careful
because again I don't I don't want to use the
occasion of the Pope's death to try to keep scorn
or to try to say or put negative energy in
the air. I want to recognize his greatness, and he
was great. James Golden eight hundred and eight four eight
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Speaker 7: Who did pay for this trip?
Speaker 6: This was an officially cleared you know, congressional trip clear, Yes,
like every other trip.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's who paid for this ongoing photo op Margueriteville
in El Salvador with Chris Holland as Democrats trip all
over themselves to go down there to prove to the
con to their fellow Democrats that they are people of compassion,
that they you know, Democrats love criminals. Let's just they
are the advocates of the criminal class. And we're not
talking about we are talking about the unrepentant criminals. We're
talking about people that hurt, main, kill, rape, murder, pillage,
whatever they are. Their Democrats find these people and elevate
them to heroes. That is what Chris Holland is doing.
That's what these Democrats that are down in El Salvador
are doing right now. I have when we come back
from the next break, we're gonna visit a church service
in Tampa, Florida. No, I'm sorry, Saint Petersburg. Same difference,
and you're not folks. Liberals are the unrepentant advocates for
the unrepentant criminal class. That's who they are. You find
a criminal, they will wave the flag and make that
person a hero and try to elevate that person to hero.
It's time and time again. We're coming back. James Golden,
your calls to at eight hundred and eight four eight
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Speaker 2: Whatever you do, do not leave, do not go away.
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Speaker 3: And that's that's a good question.
Speaker 7: I think about the mother being unable to understand why
you would spend so much time energy for this person
who was not in your state or in the country legally,
at which time she felt like you didn't have the
same concern about her daughter and her family.
Speaker 2: I did have concern. I have concern.
Speaker 6: My heart goes out to every Maryland family that is
the victim of violence, regardless of the perpetrator.
Speaker 4: Lot Okay, fine, that's Chris van Holland asking the question,
you're running down to El Salvador to see about this criminal. Well,
they don't call him a criminal, this person that's an
illegal alien. How about the woman whose daughter was raped,
brutally raped, brutally murdered by an illegal alien. You didn't
go to see her, You didn't do anything with that.
Oh well, I do have concern. My heart goes out,
My heart goes out, my heart. Well, your ass went
out to El Salvador, but your ass couldn't go ten
minutes to go see this woman in your own state.
These people, I'm telling you, these democrats. I am so
done with them. Now I have by the way, i'm
getting a response. I will just read one response. I
will not tell you who this came from. Great at
what child traffic? I'm not going there. And yes, I
said great because I think that anyone that preaches and
whose mission in life is to try to encourage people
to love one another and that is the sole message,
I think that's great, and I think that that's what
this world needs. And so part of me is always
conflicted too, because it's like, and this is what I
was trying to get at before. Look, I understand how
we meaning people that think like many of us do
not all of us. Many of us do that. Look,
illegals are illegals. If you are here in the country illegally,
go home. We don't think that that's not compassionate, and
we know that that sounds harsh to people. But here's
a deal. We have to obey the rules. We have
to obey the law. We get thrown in jail when
if we don't follow the rules. If we don't follow
the rules and decide we don't want to pay our taxes,
we have to deal with the irs. If we don't
follow the rules, we get tossed in jail. And we
expect everybody in the country to have to live by
the same rules, the same set of laws that we do.
And we do not understand how because a person comes
from an impoverished background, comes from an impoverished state, why
they are giving a special pass on following the rules.
We don't like it, we don't understand it. And even
when the churches didn't tell us that we should turn
the blind eye to the rules, then we say.
Speaker 2: Well, then what are you here for?
Speaker 4: Because the church used to be where people understood the
morality behind following the rules, behind following a code of
conduct to guide you to a life that you could
celebrate morality, doing the right thing and this is what's
so confused. So no, we have compassion, and we don't
feel like we should be on the defensive enough to say, oh, well,
we love people. Of course we love people, but we
also love the idea that morality is a good thing
and that the rules, the laws of our nation, should
be followed. And we're not saying we expect everybody to
be perfect, because we know human beings imperfect all of us,
and all of us are going to ultimately have to
stand before God, our creator, and justify our own lives.
And there's plenty for all of us to look at
in our lives and say, you know what, we could
have done better, we should have done better. We're not
perfect people. We are struggling souls, all of us. We
get it. But we do still have this reverence.
Speaker 2: For the law, for the rules.
Speaker 4: And when you see the institutions that are supposed to
be all about that kind of winking and nodding and saying,
well it's okay if they break the rules, that just
doesn't sit well with us.
Speaker 2: That's all I was trying to say.
Speaker 4: But it doesn't mean that we don't look who am
the Pope said, who am Mighty judged when he was
talking about homosexuality. I am like the least person that
wants to feel like I don't have I don't have
the wherewithal to judge the pope. I don't have it.
That's not who I am. Don't have it. I'm not
trying to do that. That's up to God. And I'm
just voicing concerns that I had.
Speaker 2: I want.
Speaker 4: There used to be clear definitions of what's right and
what's wrong, and they're all getting blurred. And now you
have boys running around, young boys thinking that they're girls,
young girls thinking that their boys.
Speaker 2: What. We look at this and we and we look
in amazement at what used to be solid ground clarity
being distorted in some sort of weird relativism, and it
is disturbing. Now.
Speaker 4: I want to play some other things I talked to
you about this. This is what Carlos Let's cut one.
So if you were attending a Methodist church, and by
the way, I grew up in a Methodist church, which
then change is named to a United Methodist church.
Speaker 2: So if you are.
Speaker 4: Attending Methodist church in Allen in Petersburg, this is what
you heard is your sermon. Part of your sermon from
Reverend Andy Oliver on Easter Sunday, go ahead and play it.
Speaker 8: In a spirit of solidarity. More than fifty justice seeking
congregations around the country have been lighting a candle of peace,
hope and justice. This candle represents Christ's light, shining even
in the midst of barbed wire policies that wrap tighter
each day. This morning, we light the candle of peace,
hope and justice for all who are being labeled alien
enemies and deported, shackled by fear that they will be next,
or waiting for news that their loved one is okay.
We continue to pray for Kilmore Obrago Garcia, whom the
Supreme Court has ordered must be returned home after our
government unlawfully kidnapped him to El Salvador. We lift up
Arturo Sores Trejo, who was denied the chance to meet
his newborn daughter and instead sent from Texas Detention Center
to El Salvador. And we remember the two hundred and
thirty six other men living in cage like conditions in
the Terrorism Confinement Center, despite only thirty two of them
having been convicted of any serious crimes. Scripture tells us
that on Good Friday, Jesus promised a thief hanging beside
him that they would be together in paradise. Now, while
we don't expect paradise from our government, we do expect
due process. While we do not need our leaders to
emulate the grace of Jesus, we yearn for any official
who wears a cross to speak words that Jesus's mercy
and compassion instead of conscious pilots fear and contemptment. Jesus declared,
the truth will set you free. So God make every
government official tell the truth. That these detention sinners have
more in common with concentration camps than with prisons, because
a prison, by definition, operates within a judicial system. A
person is arrested, charged and tried, and, if found guilty, sentenced.
A concentration camp, on the other hand, functions outside the law.
People are detained without a trial, without conviction, held indefinitely,
not for what they've done, but for who they are,
for their religion, their ethnicity, their politics, or their identity
as part of a group deemed a threat.
Speaker 4: And so we pray you have here, you have enough here,
You have this, this minister, this pastor basically this is
just the politician. This is just pure Trump. That's all.
It is wrapped up in a homily. You have now
them proudly standing with a criminal class of people that murders, rapes, pillagers,
that's here illegal, that doesn't follow the laws. But what
let's light a candle and show our religions with who
with the criminal, not with the people that are trying
to bring order and trying to protect American citizens, not
for anybody they are. This is this entire left movement
has lost its mind, They have lost their bearing. All
they have to do is a migrant. He's a migrant,
he's here illegally. But no, we can't actually say that
people that are criminals should be punished. And there is
nothing illegal about what Trump is doing. By the way
it is, there is no due process. It is part
of the presidential it is part of the constitution that
the president has the right to do what he's doing.
That is due process. He hasn't been tried like that.
They don't know who this guy is. He's been in
the court system. You don't hear that from this. It's maddening.
I wish I could spend an hour with this because
on so many levels, this is offensive and this is
what you go to. If I were in that churchyard,
I would have walked out because this is just disgraceful
that you have to get this one sided, narrow political
leftist view coming to parishioners on Easter Sunday. It's ridiculous.
Then you have in PMSNBC what we can expect it
from them. MSNBC cut to we can't play all of
this because we don't have time, but let's just get
started with it.
Speaker 2: This head Mika Brazinski and.
Speaker 5: Joining us now Democratic Senator Chris van Holland of Maryland.
He recently returned from a trip to El Salvador, where
he met with Kilmar A Frego Garcia. He's also a
member of the Foreign Relations Committee and Senator Francis' last
words final public remarks focused on this theme, how much
contempt is stirred up at times toward the vulnerable, the marginalized,
and migrants. Francis wrote in a papal address delivered on
Easter Sunday yesterday by a Vatican aid to the crowds
gathered in Saint Peter's Square, and here we are you on.
I guess just back now from El Salvador, dealing with
the issue of just one of the many people who
have been forcibly removed, disappeared. I mean some might even
see it as a kidnapping. It's definitely not a deep port.
Speaker 1: Where does the.
Speaker 4: Okay, I don't want to hear Van Hollan. Let's just
hold the rest of it to tomorrow. Carlos, that's it,
and Francis last was for the migrants. So there are
just migrants. There are no criminal migrants. There are no
people that break the law, the rapists, the murderer migrants, Well,
they're just migrants. They're all just the oppressed people. And
it's those evil conservatives that Donald Trump and those people.
They're pressing the poor, the under trodden, the migrants who
are just innocent and virtuous, every one of them.
Speaker 2: You have no right to get rid.
Speaker 4: Of the criminal element out of your society, out of
your country that are here illegal because they're migrants and
they're virtuous, all of them. We gotta take a break.
James Goldlan snurly. I didn't even go on this battle
that's going on in the court. There's something happening with
the Supreme Court. Alito is unhappy. They rushed out that
midnight ruling to stop Donald Trump from deporting more Venezuelans.
And they said, and Alito stuff will follow that. It's
totally out of character. I don't have time to deal
with that today. We can get to that tomorrow, folks.
Big things are happening out here. We decided we're just
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Speaker 4: Let's start with Mary and Morristown, New Jersey. Good afternoon, Mary,
how are you?
Speaker 9: I'm doing great? It's Mary grace. It's nice to talk
to you again.
Speaker 4: Both.
Speaker 9: Listen was a great man and by all, by all estimations,
not a bad anything about him. However, there is that
confusion that you were talking about that you articulated when
you have the cardinals below maybe not doing the morality
and then cover ups. So you have the goodness in
the Catholic Church and then you have then and the
openness to the best and we love it.
Speaker 4: Thank you, And I think I did a poor job
of articulating it. I'm going to try it again tomorrow.
I was a little bit distracted today, have some technical
issues that I'm dealing with. Ray and Putnham County. Thank you.
How are you?
Speaker 2: Ray?
Speaker 10: I'm great, Bo and I just want to tell you
you did a great job articulating. As you've got more
involved in the conversation. I know where you're coming from,
but you know, and God rest this Pope's soul. He
was a wonderful man. But I was not a fan
or I am not a fan of his politics. He
shouldn't be getting in politics, and that really worries me
because I don't know the next pope because Pope Benedict
basically appointed him cardinal and I don't know where we're
going with this, you know, if it's going to get
crazy crazier because my wife and I we watched that
movie Conclave and just scares me. This really scares me.
Speaker 4: I saw another movie called Pope. It was just it
was actually a thrilling movie. Look, we're not going to
know until the White Smoke comes out what's next, and
then the speculation is going to be and even then
we won't know.
Speaker 2: But Ray, I'm so happy you Caul.
Speaker 4: I want to check in with boker ratone the sixth
Borough of New York as it's known, and Lisa welcome.
Speaker 2: How are you?
Speaker 11: I agree? I think you articulated it. I think you're fantastic.
I listen to you every day. You inspire me. I
just want to start with that. But this Pope was
a very big disappointment. I did not think he was great.
I thought he was very marginal. And the biggest thing
is that he could he had a big chance to
improve relations with Israel, with the Jewish people, especially after
October seventh, and he was and I just stand from
a very big disappointment really well.
Speaker 4: And I did read that the Pope did make some
remarks on on and especially on what was going on
in Gaza. So I'm gonna have to go back and look,
Lisa and see exactly what he did or did not
say regarding October seventh. But look, we can we not
all agree that his call for love, which he spent
a lot of time with, is still the universal message
that any pope that we expect from any pope. Hum Anyway,
we gotta go, folks. May God bless and protect each
and every single one of you, your families, your loved ones.
Love and gratitude. My friends, you're being here with me,
allowing me to be with you, God willing. We're back
tomorrow for the Tuesday edition of Bo s Loveley's Rush Hour.
Until then, my friends, I bid you, I do.
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