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More 11 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:29,399 power to you teacenc's Apply eighteen plus bet Responsibly Gamblingcare 12 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:29,760 Dot i e. 13 00:00:30,399 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 3: The Rush Hour with James Golden on the Red Apple 14 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:35,079 Podcast Network. 15 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 4: Welcome my friends to the Monday edition of Bosneerlies Rush Hour. 16 00:00:40,119 --> 00:00:42,520 If you would like to be on the program this afternoon, 17 00:00:43,759 --> 00:00:46,920 eight hundred eight four eight nine to two two is 18 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:49,439 how you reach us eight hundred eight four eight nine. 19 00:00:50,079 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 2: Two two two. 20 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:57,479 Speaker 4: Of course, there is one story that is at the 21 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:02,479 top of the news regardless of where you are in 22 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,079 this world of ours, well most places in the world. 23 00:01:05,159 --> 00:01:09,480 That is the death of Pope Francis, who passed away 24 00:01:09,719 --> 00:01:18,480 in Rome with the Vatican seven point thirty five am 25 00:01:18,799 --> 00:01:26,719 this morning. The accolades for this Pope are pouring in. 26 00:01:26,599 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 2: From all over the world. 27 00:01:30,799 --> 00:01:36,799 Speaker 4: Of course, many of the voices of his critics are 28 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:42,959 muted today, and there were many, But overall, this pope 29 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:49,920 is being remembered as charismatic, as someone who showed a 30 00:01:49,959 --> 00:01:56,439 great deal of compassion for people that are quote unquote marginalized. 31 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,359 You can look in the New York Times, Washington Post, 32 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:04,560 all the major publications around America, including even the local 33 00:02:04,719 --> 00:02:07,920 ones in New York the Daily News. Pope Francis, the 34 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:13,159 charismatic and conciliatory Argentinian. 35 00:02:14,199 --> 00:02:15,759 Speaker 2: Who moved to. 36 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 4: Liberalize the Roman Catholic Church, dramatically reorienting the papacy's posture 37 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:28,599 toward homosexuality and modestly expanding the role of women at Mass. 38 00:02:29,479 --> 00:02:32,919 Died early Monday, hours after making his last public appearance 39 00:02:33,039 --> 00:02:35,280 Easter Sunday. He was eighty eight. Of course, there are 40 00:02:35,479 --> 00:02:41,120 many many people noting that well I read, he couldn't 41 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:44,800 have choreographed this better. It couldn't have been choreographed better. 42 00:02:47,479 --> 00:02:52,560 With his passing coming as Easter season twenty twenty five. 43 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:54,479 Speaker 2: Wrapped up. 44 00:02:56,439 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 4: He taught us to live the values of the Gospel 45 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:03,319 with faithfuless, courage, universal love, especially for the poorest and 46 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:09,280 marginalize is one of the more remarks from Cardinal Kevin Farrell. 47 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:13,159 Speaker 2: Jd. 48 00:03:13,319 --> 00:03:20,199 Speaker 4: Vance, of course, was present in Rome in his one 49 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:26,719 of his last public appearances. So I would love to 50 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:30,319 know what you thought about this Pope, what your feelings 51 00:03:30,319 --> 00:03:32,560 are when we take calls, and we may take calls 52 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:38,599 earlier than normal today, Cardinal Timothy Dolan, the Archbishop of 53 00:03:38,639 --> 00:03:41,240 New York, remember Pope Francis at Pope at St. 54 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 2: Patricks Cathedral. 55 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 4: We can never choreograph our own birth or death, can we? 56 00:03:46,439 --> 00:03:50,800 That's always in guard God's hands. But Buddy said, if 57 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:56,479 you could choreograph it, you couldn't choreograph it any better. 58 00:03:56,280 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 2: Than what happened. The u inn. 59 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:07,439 Speaker 4: A General Secretary Antonio offered his condolences to Catholics, lauded 60 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:16,279 Pope Francis as a messenger of hope, humility, and humanity. 61 00:04:17,519 --> 00:04:21,240 Gutierres added that Pope Francis had left the legacy of faith, 62 00:04:21,319 --> 00:04:25,839 service and compassion for all, especially those left on the 63 00:04:25,959 --> 00:04:29,759 margins of life were trapped, excuse me by the horrors 64 00:04:29,759 --> 00:04:37,160 of conflict. Donald Trump, President of these United States of America, 65 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:43,079 spoke ahead of the White House Easter egg role today, 66 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:48,600 said he had ordered flags around this country at half 67 00:04:48,639 --> 00:04:51,360 staff in honor of Pope Francis, who was a good man. 68 00:04:51,439 --> 00:04:58,279 Trump said, there are many guesses of what is coming 69 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:03,720 next for the Catholic Church. One of the analysis that 70 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:08,560 I read of the many said, this is a crossword 71 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:13,439 roads for the church, whether it will find its next 72 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:21,959 pope to be a person that continues the legacy of 73 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,519 Pope Francis. 74 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 5: Or. 75 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 4: Whether it will return to a more conservative viewpoint. There's 76 00:05:35,879 --> 00:05:39,199 no question that this pope made an impact, had an impact, 77 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,399 I think one of the things that And I am 78 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:51,920 not a person that believes in criticizing or using the 79 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:57,839 period even people that are not in the limelight as 80 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:01,199 much as the Pope was. I'm not a person that 81 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:05,480 believes that we should use the occasion of someone's death 82 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:06,879 to heep all kind of. 83 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 2: Negative energy. 84 00:06:14,319 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 4: But I will say that I found some of the 85 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:24,759 Pope's remarks about especially when it concerned migration, to be 86 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:28,000 a little bit troubling, not a little bit, a lot troubling, frankly, 87 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:37,439 And there is no there is no there's no way 88 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:43,279 that I can downplay that. And you hear it today 89 00:06:43,319 --> 00:06:45,519 and some of the other news stories that are going on. 90 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:49,639 I have a SoundBite that we will get to from 91 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:56,720 MSNBC Mika Brazinski, of course, using the passing of the 92 00:06:56,759 --> 00:07:00,040 pope in connection with another story that is at the 93 00:07:00,079 --> 00:07:03,439 top of the news here in America, that this continued 94 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:11,519 absurd quest to ignore everything that can be ignored and 95 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:17,639 make Kilmar out Abregio Garcia some kind of national hero 96 00:07:19,319 --> 00:07:25,680 or an international hero. You have Democrats running down to 97 00:07:25,959 --> 00:07:31,199 El Salvador for their follow up photo ops, hoping that 98 00:07:31,279 --> 00:07:38,759 some of the limelight that Van Holland from Maryland got 99 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:46,600 Senator van Holland will shine on them too. There's a 100 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:53,519 delegation of four that at least four congress people, including 101 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:57,720 this one very liberal congress woman from Oregon, who's down 102 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:01,360 there to see whether they can gone or some attention. 103 00:08:04,199 --> 00:08:06,560 Van Holland was all over the news this week and 104 00:08:06,639 --> 00:08:12,040 taking his victory lap on liberal outlets. 105 00:08:14,879 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 2: It was this weekend, and we have that bite too. 106 00:08:17,279 --> 00:08:19,279 Speaker 4: We'll share with you that we learn who paid for 107 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:26,279 the trip, of course, no surprise, but. 108 00:08:28,759 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 2: That aside. One of the things that I fear is that. 109 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 4: We're at an age where standing for what is right, 110 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:53,919 what used to be accepted as universal, universally right, is 111 00:08:54,000 --> 00:09:00,639 now in question. It is the left that has taken 112 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:07,559 this world into a state of moral relativism. Everything's relative. 113 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:10,919 What used to be right, Well maybe it's not so 114 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:21,519 much right. This goes on from everything through this absurd 115 00:09:22,759 --> 00:09:27,360 reality that we live in now, where people believe that 116 00:09:27,639 --> 00:09:34,440 biology isn't biology, and an entire political movement has now 117 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:38,279 been built around the idea that what's right, what is 118 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:46,120 known to be factual, is not in fact factual at all, 119 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:54,120 And the same thing has happened with things that many 120 00:09:54,159 --> 00:10:01,399 of us believed to be right. Well, maybe you're wrong. 121 00:10:02,639 --> 00:10:06,440 What do I mean? I mean this simple notion that 122 00:10:06,639 --> 00:10:15,799 unless a law is highly immoral, that the laws of 123 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:19,240 a nation should be followed. That used to be just 124 00:10:19,399 --> 00:10:27,879 without question. Now it's convenient to bend and shape the 125 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:34,159 law to meet your political objectives. I'm speaking about illegal 126 00:10:34,279 --> 00:10:42,919 immigration countries or countries where it was assumed had the 127 00:10:43,039 --> 00:10:46,200 right to decide who would enter their country who would 128 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:53,440 not America, no different than any other country, the right 129 00:10:53,480 --> 00:11:00,879 to decide who comes in your country, who legally is 130 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:05,639 permitted in the country. And it used to be that 131 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:11,440 the church, the church, be it the Catholic Church, be 132 00:11:11,519 --> 00:11:16,600 it churches in the Protestant world, be it institutions, spiritual 133 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:23,519 institutions were pretty consistent with the idea that the laws 134 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:28,320 of a nation, assuming again we're not assuming that unjust 135 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:36,279 the laws things that are clearly immoral, but within the 136 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:40,399 bounds of morality, that people should abide by the laws 137 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,720 of their country. And this was taught in church, it 138 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,879 was taught in all churches. It was taught to respect 139 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:52,519 the laws of your land. That's no longer the case. 140 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:58,039 And when you have leadership of the church helping to 141 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:03,360 blur the lines, it certainly makes it a little bit 142 00:12:03,399 --> 00:12:10,799 more difficult for a society, right, wrong, whatever it's it's 143 00:12:11,399 --> 00:12:16,039 that's one of the consequences I think that has happened 144 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:17,960 with this paper. See and again, I don't want to 145 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:22,759 spend all day trying to negate the good works the 146 00:12:22,799 --> 00:12:27,440 good man that Pope Francis was. There's no question that 147 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:31,799 Pope Francis was a good man. There's no question the 148 00:12:31,879 --> 00:12:35,840 fact that he had he came from a Jesuit background. 149 00:12:35,879 --> 00:12:38,759 There's no question that he was strongly convicted with his beliefs. 150 00:12:38,759 --> 00:12:43,240 There's no question that the Pope tried to help the poor, 151 00:12:43,279 --> 00:12:48,519 that he tried to do his best to be the 152 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,799 best pope he could be as he saw it. And 153 00:12:51,919 --> 00:12:55,759 I do not feel myself, by the way, in any 154 00:12:55,879 --> 00:13:00,679 kind of spiritual framework, that I would create a size 155 00:13:01,159 --> 00:13:05,360 him and say, well, the Pope was wrong. 156 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:06,759 Speaker 2: I'm not going there. 157 00:13:08,639 --> 00:13:11,519 Speaker 4: I'm noticing and trying to point out things that I 158 00:13:11,639 --> 00:13:23,320 observe that that troubled me during his papacy. And it 159 00:13:23,399 --> 00:13:28,240 didn't just go to political issues like look when the 160 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:33,000 church when any I'm talking about the institutions. When the 161 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:40,360 institutions that are the underpinning of morality in a society 162 00:13:41,399 --> 00:13:49,360 start to break down, then you see it reflected through 163 00:13:49,399 --> 00:13:52,159 all of society. That is my point eight hundred and 164 00:13:52,159 --> 00:13:54,559 eighty four, eight nine. I'm going way over time, and 165 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:57,120 I fear I'm not articulating this exactly the way I 166 00:13:57,159 --> 00:14:01,360 want to I am. I'm trying to be very careful 167 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:06,039 because again I don't I don't want to use the 168 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:09,480 occasion of the Pope's death to try to keep scorn 169 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:13,320 or to try to say or put negative energy in 170 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:16,000 the air. I want to recognize his greatness, and he 171 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:22,080 was great. James Golden eight hundred and eight four eight 172 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,000 nine two two two is how you reach just we're 173 00:14:24,039 --> 00:14:24,559 coming back. 174 00:14:25,759 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 3: The Rush Hour with James Golden on the Red Apple 175 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:30,399 Podcast Network. 176 00:14:33,919 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 6: The Rush Hour with James Golden Entertaining and Informative. 177 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:40,639 Speaker 3: On the Red Apple Podcast Network. 178 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 7: Who did pay for this trip? 179 00:14:43,879 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 6: This was an officially cleared you know, congressional trip clear, Yes, 180 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:51,080 like every other trip. 181 00:14:52,039 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's who paid for this ongoing photo op Margueriteville 182 00:15:00,039 --> 00:15:05,200 in El Salvador with Chris Holland as Democrats trip all 183 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:08,360 over themselves to go down there to prove to the 184 00:15:08,559 --> 00:15:13,679 con to their fellow Democrats that they are people of compassion, 185 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:18,200 that they you know, Democrats love criminals. Let's just they 186 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:21,720 are the advocates of the criminal class. And we're not 187 00:15:21,799 --> 00:15:27,039 talking about we are talking about the unrepentant criminals. We're 188 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:33,519 talking about people that hurt, main, kill, rape, murder, pillage, 189 00:15:33,679 --> 00:15:37,519 whatever they are. Their Democrats find these people and elevate 190 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,759 them to heroes. That is what Chris Holland is doing. 191 00:15:41,039 --> 00:15:44,000 That's what these Democrats that are down in El Salvador 192 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:47,600 are doing right now. I have when we come back 193 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:51,840 from the next break, we're gonna visit a church service 194 00:15:52,399 --> 00:15:57,320 in Tampa, Florida. No, I'm sorry, Saint Petersburg. Same difference, 195 00:15:58,879 --> 00:16:06,879 and you're not folks. Liberals are the unrepentant advocates for 196 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:13,080 the unrepentant criminal class. That's who they are. You find 197 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:17,480 a criminal, they will wave the flag and make that 198 00:16:17,559 --> 00:16:21,879 person a hero and try to elevate that person to hero. 199 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:25,720 It's time and time again. We're coming back. James Golden, 200 00:16:25,799 --> 00:16:27,600 your calls to at eight hundred and eight four eight 201 00:16:27,679 --> 00:16:28,679 nine to two to two two. 202 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 2: Whatever you do, do not leave, do not go away. 203 00:16:33,759 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 6: The rush hour with James Golden, entertaining and informative on 204 00:16:38,559 --> 00:16:41,840 the Red Apple podcast network neglected. 205 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 3: And that's that's a good question. 206 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:46,559 Speaker 7: I think about the mother being unable to understand why 207 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:48,799 you would spend so much time energy for this person 208 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:51,039 who was not in your state or in the country legally, 209 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:53,039 at which time she felt like you didn't have the 210 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,159 same concern about her daughter and her family. 211 00:16:55,799 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 2: I did have concern. I have concern. 212 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:01,919 Speaker 6: My heart goes out to every Maryland family that is 213 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:05,839 the victim of violence, regardless of the perpetrator. 214 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 4: Lot Okay, fine, that's Chris van Holland asking the question, 215 00:17:13,519 --> 00:17:17,279 you're running down to El Salvador to see about this criminal. Well, 216 00:17:17,319 --> 00:17:20,039 they don't call him a criminal, this person that's an 217 00:17:20,039 --> 00:17:24,319 illegal alien. How about the woman whose daughter was raped, 218 00:17:24,599 --> 00:17:28,839 brutally raped, brutally murdered by an illegal alien. You didn't 219 00:17:28,839 --> 00:17:31,119 go to see her, You didn't do anything with that. 220 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:33,119 Oh well, I do have concern. My heart goes out, 221 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:35,920 My heart goes out, my heart. Well, your ass went 222 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:39,599 out to El Salvador, but your ass couldn't go ten 223 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:42,559 minutes to go see this woman in your own state. 224 00:17:44,519 --> 00:17:47,599 These people, I'm telling you, these democrats. I am so 225 00:17:47,799 --> 00:17:50,759 done with them. Now I have by the way, i'm 226 00:17:50,799 --> 00:17:54,799 getting a response. I will just read one response. I 227 00:17:54,799 --> 00:17:58,680 will not tell you who this came from. Great at 228 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:08,839 what child traffic? I'm not going there. And yes, I 229 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:13,279 said great because I think that anyone that preaches and 230 00:18:13,319 --> 00:18:16,759 whose mission in life is to try to encourage people 231 00:18:16,799 --> 00:18:21,000 to love one another and that is the sole message, 232 00:18:21,799 --> 00:18:23,960 I think that's great, and I think that that's what 233 00:18:24,039 --> 00:18:26,880 this world needs. And so part of me is always 234 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,839 conflicted too, because it's like, and this is what I 235 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:33,960 was trying to get at before. Look, I understand how 236 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:39,400 we meaning people that think like many of us do 237 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:41,960 not all of us. Many of us do that. Look, 238 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:46,599 illegals are illegals. If you are here in the country illegally, 239 00:18:47,039 --> 00:18:53,480 go home. We don't think that that's not compassionate, and 240 00:18:53,519 --> 00:18:56,720 we know that that sounds harsh to people. But here's 241 00:18:56,759 --> 00:19:01,119 a deal. We have to obey the rules. We have 242 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:07,920 to obey the law. We get thrown in jail when 243 00:19:08,079 --> 00:19:12,880 if we don't follow the rules. If we don't follow 244 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:18,240 the rules and decide we don't want to pay our taxes, 245 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:23,240 we have to deal with the irs. If we don't 246 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:30,000 follow the rules, we get tossed in jail. And we 247 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:34,640 expect everybody in the country to have to live by 248 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,960 the same rules, the same set of laws that we do. 249 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:42,720 And we do not understand how because a person comes 250 00:19:42,799 --> 00:19:47,480 from an impoverished background, comes from an impoverished state, why 251 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:53,240 they are giving a special pass on following the rules. 252 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:58,240 We don't like it, we don't understand it. And even 253 00:19:58,279 --> 00:20:01,400 when the churches didn't tell us that we should turn 254 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,920 the blind eye to the rules, then we say. 255 00:20:03,759 --> 00:20:06,319 Speaker 2: Well, then what are you here for? 256 00:20:07,519 --> 00:20:12,400 Speaker 4: Because the church used to be where people understood the 257 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:20,000 morality behind following the rules, behind following a code of 258 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:25,079 conduct to guide you to a life that you could 259 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:32,440 celebrate morality, doing the right thing and this is what's 260 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:36,720 so confused. So no, we have compassion, and we don't 261 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,599 feel like we should be on the defensive enough to say, oh, well, 262 00:20:39,799 --> 00:20:42,720 we love people. Of course we love people, but we 263 00:20:42,799 --> 00:20:46,960 also love the idea that morality is a good thing 264 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:50,240 and that the rules, the laws of our nation, should 265 00:20:50,279 --> 00:20:52,960 be followed. And we're not saying we expect everybody to 266 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:56,079 be perfect, because we know human beings imperfect all of us, 267 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,279 and all of us are going to ultimately have to 268 00:20:59,319 --> 00:21:03,559 stand before God, our creator, and justify our own lives. 269 00:21:03,559 --> 00:21:05,279 And there's plenty for all of us to look at 270 00:21:05,279 --> 00:21:07,359 in our lives and say, you know what, we could 271 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:10,880 have done better, we should have done better. We're not 272 00:21:11,079 --> 00:21:15,519 perfect people. We are struggling souls, all of us. We 273 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:19,200 get it. But we do still have this reverence. 274 00:21:19,079 --> 00:21:20,839 Speaker 2: For the law, for the rules. 275 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:25,599 Speaker 4: And when you see the institutions that are supposed to 276 00:21:25,599 --> 00:21:30,640 be all about that kind of winking and nodding and saying, 277 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,160 well it's okay if they break the rules, that just 278 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,119 doesn't sit well with us. 279 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 2: That's all I was trying to say. 280 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 4: But it doesn't mean that we don't look who am 281 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:41,640 the Pope said, who am Mighty judged when he was 282 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:46,880 talking about homosexuality. I am like the least person that 283 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:48,880 wants to feel like I don't have I don't have 284 00:21:49,279 --> 00:21:55,279 the wherewithal to judge the pope. I don't have it. 285 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,559 That's not who I am. Don't have it. I'm not 286 00:21:59,599 --> 00:22:04,400 trying to do that. That's up to God. And I'm 287 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:08,039 just voicing concerns that I had. 288 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 2: I want. 289 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:15,839 Speaker 4: There used to be clear definitions of what's right and 290 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:20,480 what's wrong, and they're all getting blurred. And now you 291 00:22:20,519 --> 00:22:23,559 have boys running around, young boys thinking that they're girls, 292 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,359 young girls thinking that their boys. 293 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 2: What. We look at this and we and we look 294 00:22:28,599 --> 00:22:35,920 in amazement at what used to be solid ground clarity 295 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:43,880 being distorted in some sort of weird relativism, and it 296 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:48,640 is disturbing. Now. 297 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 4: I want to play some other things I talked to 298 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:54,039 you about this. This is what Carlos Let's cut one. 299 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,319 So if you were attending a Methodist church, and by 300 00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,599 the way, I grew up in a Methodist church, which 301 00:22:59,599 --> 00:23:02,240 then change is named to a United Methodist church. 302 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 2: So if you are. 303 00:23:04,279 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 4: Attending Methodist church in Allen in Petersburg, this is what 304 00:23:10,079 --> 00:23:13,160 you heard is your sermon. Part of your sermon from 305 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,680 Reverend Andy Oliver on Easter Sunday, go ahead and play it. 306 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 8: In a spirit of solidarity. More than fifty justice seeking 307 00:23:23,039 --> 00:23:27,599 congregations around the country have been lighting a candle of peace, 308 00:23:27,759 --> 00:23:32,759 hope and justice. This candle represents Christ's light, shining even 309 00:23:32,759 --> 00:23:37,599 in the midst of barbed wire policies that wrap tighter 310 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:42,000 each day. This morning, we light the candle of peace, 311 00:23:42,079 --> 00:23:46,680 hope and justice for all who are being labeled alien 312 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:53,319 enemies and deported, shackled by fear that they will be next, 313 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,480 or waiting for news that their loved one is okay. 314 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:01,359 We continue to pray for Kilmore Obrago Garcia, whom the 315 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:05,240 Supreme Court has ordered must be returned home after our 316 00:24:05,279 --> 00:24:10,079 government unlawfully kidnapped him to El Salvador. We lift up 317 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:15,319 Arturo Sores Trejo, who was denied the chance to meet 318 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:19,559 his newborn daughter and instead sent from Texas Detention Center 319 00:24:19,559 --> 00:24:22,799 to El Salvador. And we remember the two hundred and 320 00:24:22,799 --> 00:24:26,720 thirty six other men living in cage like conditions in 321 00:24:26,799 --> 00:24:30,799 the Terrorism Confinement Center, despite only thirty two of them 322 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:35,839 having been convicted of any serious crimes. Scripture tells us 323 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:40,440 that on Good Friday, Jesus promised a thief hanging beside 324 00:24:40,519 --> 00:24:44,559 him that they would be together in paradise. Now, while 325 00:24:44,599 --> 00:24:48,000 we don't expect paradise from our government, we do expect 326 00:24:48,599 --> 00:24:52,720 due process. While we do not need our leaders to 327 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:57,079 emulate the grace of Jesus, we yearn for any official 328 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:01,400 who wears a cross to speak words that Jesus's mercy 329 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:07,240 and compassion instead of conscious pilots fear and contemptment. Jesus declared, 330 00:25:07,319 --> 00:25:11,880 the truth will set you free. So God make every 331 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:17,240 government official tell the truth. That these detention sinners have 332 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:22,000 more in common with concentration camps than with prisons, because 333 00:25:22,039 --> 00:25:25,519 a prison, by definition, operates within a judicial system. A 334 00:25:25,599 --> 00:25:29,799 person is arrested, charged and tried, and, if found guilty, sentenced. 335 00:25:30,559 --> 00:25:34,279 A concentration camp, on the other hand, functions outside the law. 336 00:25:35,079 --> 00:25:38,920 People are detained without a trial, without conviction, held indefinitely, 337 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,279 not for what they've done, but for who they are, 338 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:46,440 for their religion, their ethnicity, their politics, or their identity 339 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,160 as part of a group deemed a threat. 340 00:25:49,319 --> 00:25:52,319 Speaker 4: And so we pray you have here, you have enough here, 341 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:58,200 You have this, this minister, this pastor basically this is 342 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:02,799 just the politician. This is just pure Trump. That's all. 343 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:07,519 It is wrapped up in a homily. You have now 344 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:14,400 them proudly standing with a criminal class of people that murders, rapes, pillagers, 345 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,200 that's here illegal, that doesn't follow the laws. But what 346 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,440 let's light a candle and show our religions with who 347 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,440 with the criminal, not with the people that are trying 348 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:27,519 to bring order and trying to protect American citizens, not 349 00:26:27,759 --> 00:26:32,240 for anybody they are. This is this entire left movement 350 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:37,240 has lost its mind, They have lost their bearing. All 351 00:26:37,279 --> 00:26:39,960 they have to do is a migrant. He's a migrant, 352 00:26:40,079 --> 00:26:43,880 he's here illegally. But no, we can't actually say that 353 00:26:44,039 --> 00:26:47,359 people that are criminals should be punished. And there is 354 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,200 nothing illegal about what Trump is doing. By the way 355 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:54,240 it is, there is no due process. It is part 356 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:58,039 of the presidential it is part of the constitution that 357 00:26:58,079 --> 00:27:00,799 the president has the right to do what he's doing. 358 00:27:01,079 --> 00:27:06,680 That is due process. He hasn't been tried like that. 359 00:27:06,759 --> 00:27:08,559 They don't know who this guy is. He's been in 360 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:16,119 the court system. You don't hear that from this. It's maddening. 361 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,279 I wish I could spend an hour with this because 362 00:27:18,599 --> 00:27:24,079 on so many levels, this is offensive and this is 363 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,359 what you go to. If I were in that churchyard, 364 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:31,519 I would have walked out because this is just disgraceful 365 00:27:32,279 --> 00:27:35,319 that you have to get this one sided, narrow political 366 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:41,519 leftist view coming to parishioners on Easter Sunday. It's ridiculous. 367 00:27:43,559 --> 00:27:49,759 Then you have in PMSNBC what we can expect it 368 00:27:49,799 --> 00:27:55,880 from them. MSNBC cut to we can't play all of 369 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:57,759 this because we don't have time, but let's just get 370 00:27:57,799 --> 00:27:58,519 started with it. 371 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,799 Speaker 2: This head Mika Brazinski and. 372 00:28:02,839 --> 00:28:06,319 Speaker 5: Joining us now Democratic Senator Chris van Holland of Maryland. 373 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:10,200 He recently returned from a trip to El Salvador, where 374 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,599 he met with Kilmar A Frego Garcia. He's also a 375 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:18,880 member of the Foreign Relations Committee and Senator Francis' last 376 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:25,119 words final public remarks focused on this theme, how much 377 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:29,720 contempt is stirred up at times toward the vulnerable, the marginalized, 378 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,799 and migrants. Francis wrote in a papal address delivered on 379 00:28:34,079 --> 00:28:37,920 Easter Sunday yesterday by a Vatican aid to the crowds 380 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:43,079 gathered in Saint Peter's Square, and here we are you on. 381 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:48,119 I guess just back now from El Salvador, dealing with 382 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:52,319 the issue of just one of the many people who 383 00:28:52,359 --> 00:28:57,200 have been forcibly removed, disappeared. I mean some might even 384 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,920 see it as a kidnapping. It's definitely not a deep port. 385 00:29:01,119 --> 00:29:01,599 Speaker 1: Where does the. 386 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,039 Speaker 4: Okay, I don't want to hear Van Hollan. Let's just 387 00:29:05,079 --> 00:29:07,599 hold the rest of it to tomorrow. Carlos, that's it, 388 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,759 and Francis last was for the migrants. So there are 389 00:29:12,799 --> 00:29:15,640 just migrants. There are no criminal migrants. There are no 390 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,759 people that break the law, the rapists, the murderer migrants, Well, 391 00:29:19,759 --> 00:29:25,160 they're just migrants. They're all just the oppressed people. And 392 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:30,119 it's those evil conservatives that Donald Trump and those people. 393 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:35,599 They're pressing the poor, the under trodden, the migrants who 394 00:29:35,599 --> 00:29:39,119 are just innocent and virtuous, every one of them. 395 00:29:40,119 --> 00:29:41,559 Speaker 2: You have no right to get rid. 396 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 4: Of the criminal element out of your society, out of 397 00:29:44,519 --> 00:29:47,559 your country that are here illegal because they're migrants and 398 00:29:47,599 --> 00:29:53,359 they're virtuous, all of them. We gotta take a break. 399 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,920 James Goldlan snurly. I didn't even go on this battle 400 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,039 that's going on in the court. There's something happening with 401 00:29:59,079 --> 00:30:04,079 the Supreme Court. Alito is unhappy. They rushed out that 402 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:09,079 midnight ruling to stop Donald Trump from deporting more Venezuelans. 403 00:30:09,079 --> 00:30:11,559 And they said, and Alito stuff will follow that. It's 404 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:13,680 totally out of character. I don't have time to deal 405 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,519 with that today. We can get to that tomorrow, folks. 406 00:30:17,559 --> 00:30:21,880 Big things are happening out here. We decided we're just 407 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,160 going to play more. Prince James Goldan sternly, your call 408 00:30:24,279 --> 00:30:27,640 is coming up next. Let's let you weigh in. Whatever 409 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,319 you do, don't go away. Eight hundred and eighty four 410 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,039 eight nine to two to two. 411 00:30:31,839 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 3: The Rush Hour with James Golden on the Red Apple 412 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:36,519 Podcast Network. 413 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 6: The Rush Hour with James Golden Entertaining and Informative. 414 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 3: On the Red Apple Podcast Network. 415 00:30:52,799 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 2: Sure Prince brings us back. 416 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 4: You know, there was this story Diana, Princess Die called 417 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,559 a few weeks ago on how China's trying to make 418 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:05,720 nice to everybody. I saw that today. She's always ahead 419 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:10,640 of the curve. I gotta tell you, Prince day today. 420 00:31:10,799 --> 00:31:12,960 But also it's time to check in with some calls. 421 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:18,799 Speaker 6: James Golden aka bos Nerdly Presents Rabbit Phones. 422 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 4: Let's start with Mary and Morristown, New Jersey. Good afternoon, Mary, 423 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:24,480 how are you? 424 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,119 Speaker 9: I'm doing great? It's Mary grace. It's nice to talk 425 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:30,680 to you again. 426 00:31:30,759 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 4: Both. 427 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 9: Listen was a great man and by all, by all estimations, 428 00:31:38,799 --> 00:31:42,799 not a bad anything about him. However, there is that 429 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,839 confusion that you were talking about that you articulated when 430 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:52,759 you have the cardinals below maybe not doing the morality 431 00:31:52,839 --> 00:31:56,920 and then cover ups. So you have the goodness in 432 00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:03,559 the Catholic Church and then you have then and the 433 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,880 openness to the best and we love it. 434 00:32:07,039 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 4: Thank you, And I think I did a poor job 435 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,640 of articulating it. I'm going to try it again tomorrow. 436 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,000 I was a little bit distracted today, have some technical 437 00:32:15,079 --> 00:32:19,319 issues that I'm dealing with. Ray and Putnham County. Thank you. 438 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:19,839 How are you? 439 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 2: Ray? 440 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 10: I'm great, Bo and I just want to tell you 441 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,680 you did a great job articulating. As you've got more 442 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:31,000 involved in the conversation. I know where you're coming from, 443 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,599 but you know, and God rest this Pope's soul. He 444 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:38,000 was a wonderful man. But I was not a fan 445 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:42,279 or I am not a fan of his politics. He 446 00:32:42,319 --> 00:32:46,400 shouldn't be getting in politics, and that really worries me 447 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:52,319 because I don't know the next pope because Pope Benedict 448 00:32:53,119 --> 00:32:57,759 basically appointed him cardinal and I don't know where we're 449 00:32:57,759 --> 00:32:59,960 going with this, you know, if it's going to get 450 00:33:00,599 --> 00:33:04,880 crazy crazier because my wife and I we watched that 451 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:10,200 movie Conclave and just scares me. This really scares me. 452 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,839 Speaker 4: I saw another movie called Pope. It was just it 453 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:17,119 was actually a thrilling movie. Look, we're not going to 454 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,799 know until the White Smoke comes out what's next, and 455 00:33:19,839 --> 00:33:22,000 then the speculation is going to be and even then 456 00:33:22,039 --> 00:33:22,519 we won't know. 457 00:33:23,519 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 2: But Ray, I'm so happy you Caul. 458 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 4: I want to check in with boker ratone the sixth 459 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,799 Borough of New York as it's known, and Lisa welcome. 460 00:33:30,839 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 2: How are you? 461 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 11: I agree? I think you articulated it. I think you're fantastic. 462 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,440 I listen to you every day. You inspire me. I 463 00:33:39,519 --> 00:33:42,880 just want to start with that. But this Pope was 464 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,440 a very big disappointment. I did not think he was great. 465 00:33:46,599 --> 00:33:51,480 I thought he was very marginal. And the biggest thing 466 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,400 is that he could he had a big chance to 467 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:58,359 improve relations with Israel, with the Jewish people, especially after 468 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:03,759 October seventh, and he was and I just stand from 469 00:34:03,799 --> 00:34:06,440 a very big disappointment really well. 470 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 4: And I did read that the Pope did make some 471 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:15,280 remarks on on and especially on what was going on 472 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:20,320 in Gaza. So I'm gonna have to go back and look, 473 00:34:20,559 --> 00:34:23,239 Lisa and see exactly what he did or did not 474 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:27,519 say regarding October seventh. But look, we can we not 475 00:34:27,639 --> 00:34:33,159 all agree that his call for love, which he spent 476 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:37,280 a lot of time with, is still the universal message 477 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:43,760 that any pope that we expect from any pope. Hum Anyway, 478 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,039 we gotta go, folks. May God bless and protect each 479 00:34:46,039 --> 00:34:49,159 and every single one of you, your families, your loved ones. 480 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,840 Love and gratitude. My friends, you're being here with me, 481 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:59,360 allowing me to be with you, God willing. We're back 482 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,119 tomorrow for the Tuesday edition of Bo s Loveley's Rush Hour. 483 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:06,840 Until then, my friends, I bid you, I do. 484 00:35:09,119 --> 00:35:09,679 Speaker 2: Bye. 485 00:35:10,559 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 3: Thanks for listening to Bo Stirdley's Rush Hour. 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