Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to take a
look at the plea conference from two thousand and eight
when Jeffrey Epstein pleaded guilty to the county was charged
with by the state of Florida. So there are several
different people that are involved in this conference. So as
they're speaking, I'll let you know who's talking and then
who responds the court, Good morning, mister Goldberger, who is
Epstein's lawyer, Your honor, we're here for a plea conference.
The court, raise your right hand. After being called as
a witness by the defense and after being first duly
sworn by the court, was examined and testified as follows
the defendant. Yes, ma'am, that's Epstein. And the court is
this one case or two, Miss bellehov Lick. Two? The Court,
may I see the pc affid David in both cases?
Please bellohov Lick. There are no pc affid David's. There
was originally an indictment. The second charge was filed a
rising out of the booking. It was all testimony presented
to the grand jury. The court, let me see the indictment.
Then I have one indictment. Miss Bellehovelek correct the Court.
So one case is charged by indictment, one is charged
by information. Miss Bellohovlk correct the Court. In case two
zero zero, six zero three six seven four to four,
your charge with procuring a person under eighteen for prostitution,
a second degree felony, maximum penalty of fifteen years Department
of Corrections, minimum some period of probation, no mandatory minimum apply.
Is that correct? State, Miss Bellehovelek correct the Court. And
in case number six nine four five four CF you're
charged with felony solicitation to a prostitution, a third degree
felony punishable by a maximum penalty of five years in
the Department of Corrections and a minimum probation no mandatory
minimums correct, Miss Bellohovelk correct the Court. The defendant has
no prior criminal record, Miss Bellohovelk correct. Misterger, Yes, your
honor the Court. You check the NCIC as well as
state records, Miss Bellohovlk, Yes, the Court, and the guideline
score sheet I have before me shows twenty one and
a half months in the Department of Corrections as the
lowest permissible prison sentence in months. Both sides agree to
the preparation of the guideline score sheet. Mister Goldberger, so
we agree, your honor, Miss BELLOHOVLK. Yes, the Court. What
is proposed? It goes on for pages, Mister Goldberger, your honor.
Much of the documentation is acknowledgment by my client to
community control sex offender status. The court, I understand, okay,
what is proposed? Those are the maximum and minimums. Mister Epstein.
What is proposed is that you will be pleading guilty
to felony solicitation to prostitution and procuring a person under
eighteen for prosecution. PSI would be waived. You would be
adjudicated guilty of both felonies. Is that correct, Miss BELLOHOVLK. Correct. Court.
And on six nine four five four, the defendant to
be sentenced to twelve months in the pom Beach County
Detention Facility. He is going to do time in the jail,
Miss BELLOHOVLK, Yes, the Court, with credit for one day served.
And on eight ninety three, eight one, he is to
be sentenced to six months in the pom Beach County
Jail Detention Facility, with credit for one day served, and
the six month sentence is to be served consecutive to
the twelve month sentence. Miss Bellehovlk correct the Court. Following
the six month sentence, the defendant will be placed on
twelve months of the community control are attached here too
and incorporated herein. As a special condition of community control,
he is to have no unsupervised contact with miners and
supervising adult must be approved. And I would say pre approved,
approved ahead of time, not after the fact, by the
Department of Corrections. And you would mean by that his
community control officer. Miss Bellehovelk correct, the Court. The defendant
is designated as a sexual offender pursuant the Florida Statute
nine four to three dot zero four to three five,
and must abide by all the corresponding requirements of the statute,
a copy of which is attached here too and incorporated
here in. The defendant must provide a DNA sample in
court at the time of the plea. Is this The
attachments are the terms and conditions of community control. There
are some squiggles on the bottom of the page. What
would those squiggles be? Thank you, your honor. Those are
my clients signature acknowledging that we have gone over all
the conditions the court one page after the plea sheet
that really spells out the terms and conditions of community
control Florida Statute nine four eight dot one oh one.
Mister Epstein, is at your squiggle at the bottom of
the squiggle, the defendant, yes, ma'am the Court. Would those
be your initials? Epstein, yes, ma'am the Court. Did you
read all of the page? Epstein, yes, ma'am the Court.
Can you read the defendant? Yes, ma'am the Court. How
far did you go in school? The defendant? High school?
The court. That's your highest degree? The defendant, yes, the Court.
And is this your signature on the plea sheet that
recites the terms of the plea I just read Epstein, yes,
ma'am the Court. Did you read that document as well? Epstein, Yes,
ma'am the Court. You understand, once you do your twelve
months followed by your six months, all in the Palm
Beach County Jail, you will then be put on community control,
which involves having an electronic monitor attached to you. Mister Goldberger, Actually,
your honor, the agreement of the parties is to it's
community control one which is not monitor the Court, oh
community control one? Is that spelled out in here, Miss Bellohovlk. Yes,
mister Goldberger, Yes, it is, your honor, Miss Bellohovlck. He
does not fall under the Jessica Lunsford Act, which requires
the bracelet the Court Community control two, Miss Bellohovelek, correct
the Court community control one. That would be no electronic
monitor Goldberger, that's correct the Court. Now, such of the
terms and conditions of community control one, are you incorporating,
mister Goldberger. I can go through those with you, your
honor the Court. None of them appear to be articulated
in the plea sheet, which is why I'm asking, mister Goldberger.
There are the standard conditions of community control by statute
what apply to anyone that goes on community control and
out of abundance of caution. We simply memorialize those standard
conditions in the police sheet agreement the Court. The Court
shall require intensive supervision and surveillance for an offender placed
on community control, which may include, but is not limited to,
specified contact with a parole and probation officer specified by who,
probation officer specified by you, your honor the Court. I
don't see that in the plea sheet. That's why I'm
asking the questions. No one has specified how often, how
frequently he is to have contact with his parole and
probation officer, confinement to an agreed upon residents during the
hours away from employment and public service activity. Has that
been articulated? Bellahovlick, I believe Judge mcsorlee has a standard
order somewhere on the bench up there regarding this, I'm
told by the prosecutor, Miss Lenhart. Judge usually this is
the probation sheet she hands out to folks the court.
I have seen those sheets. I have seen them incorporated
in plea agreements. Which is why I'm asking, mister Goldberger,
I see the court. Is there some reason you didn't
use this particular document in this case, Miss Bellohovlick, I
didn't realize until Miss Lenhart just told me that Judge
McSorley has that. Mister Goldberger, we'd be happy to execute
that document, your honor. We were we overreacted by just
having him sign off on all the conditions of community control.
The court, Well, this is mister Goldberger. Perhaps the better
practice would be the court cuts him off. This is
the reason Judge mcsorlee does this, which makes ultimate sense.
Is we're going to be here half the morning if
we're going to decide among ourselves. Now, Goldberger interjects, that
makes sense the court. I'm not going to leave this
just unspecified. Lahovlik. We can take care of this right now,
if you could give us a few minutes. The court
all right. These are the standard conditions that Judge McSorley
usually uses. If you like them, you need to circle
the ones that apply, and everyone must initial them. We
will go over it. If you wish to change. You
understand there is quite a bit of latitude given the
court in putting somebody on community control. If you agree
to some change, let me know, but understand at the
outset that I'm a big fan of specificity. I want
to know what he will be doing for employment. I
want to know exactly where he's going to be living,
and I want it on the record now. It can change,
but it can only change with the approval by doc.
I want it crystal clear. I don't want the community
control officer who gets this case the day he walks
out upon Beach County to have any doubt or confusion
as to exactly what this defendant is supposed to do,
where he's supposed to be when exactly what I'm requesting
that officer to supervise. Miss Bellehovlik absolutely, the Court. Okay,
mister Goldberger, we will work on it. Thank you, your honor.
The Court we will recall that case. They have a
brief recess. Coldberger comes back, your honor, We are back
on Jeffrey Epstein. Actually it worked. We had an opportunity
to go through Judge mcsorley's conditions of community control, and
we asked the Department of Corrections representative to assist us
to make sure we did everything properly. That were very
helpful and we executed the document. Miss Bellohovelck, Yes, and
your honor, this defendant doesn't fall under the sex offender probation,
but we have included special sex offender conditions as part
of the community control and they are all circled there
the court. The plea agreement stated the defendant is a
designated as the sexual offender pursuant of Florida Statute nine
four to two dot zero three five. Miss Bellohovelck, correct,
But the sex offender probation the statute is different, and
only applies to certain offenses, and this one was not enumerated.
You see how the state played ball with Epstein. You
see what they were doing here, and this is what
they did throughout the whole entire thing. So how is
it that your favorite politicians in Congress haven't called up
Miss BELLAHOVEC. How have they called up any of the
people that were involved in this prosecution. Oh, that's right,
because they don't care about justice. They care about gotcha
moments the court. Okay, I want to make sure both
I and the defendant are clear. The sexual offender statute
you were referring to in the police sheet is the
one that requires registration, Miss Bellohove, correct. Mister Goldberger, correct
the court, and we will talk about that, mister Goldberger. Okay,
the court, but it's not the one that requires the
special conditions of sex offender probation, Miss Bellehove, correct the court.
Now rather than nine forty eight, do you want me
to disregard nine forty eight? He's read it, Miss BELLOHOVEK.
He's read it. The court. We will leave it in there.
But these conditions are going to go over right now,
are going to be viewed in my mind, yes, and
they have been signed by the defendant and we will
go over that in a second. As part of the
whole plea, Miss Bellohovelek correct, the Court. So circled are
conditions A. You will remain confined to your residence except
one half hour before and after your approved employment, community
service work or activity approved by your probation officer. B.
You will maintain an hourly accounting of all your activities
on a daily log, which you will submit to your
supervising officer upon request. My understanding about the daily log
Maybe I'm just confused from other cases I've heard. Is
a daily log? Is a weekly log? I guess it's
submitted ahead of time? Is that correct? Probation Officer? That
is correct, your honor, the Court. So part A where
he has to stay in his residence except for one
hour before and after the approved employment, community service work
and other activity. All that's information that will be recorded
in writing, and the defendant will have a copy and
he will know exactly where he's supposed to be and
when probation officer. That is correct, your honor, the Court,
as will his supervising probation officer. And then to document
what he's supposedly done all that, he himself will be
keeping a daily log probation officer that is correct, your honor,
the court and the log form will be provided by
the department, and he will be turning that in every
time he meets with the probation officer. That is correct,
your honor. All right, folks, we're gonna wrap up episode
one right here, and then the next episode dealing with
the topic, we're gonna pick up where we left off.
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