1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:06,400 Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to take a 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,359 look at the plea conference from two thousand and eight 4 00:00:09,839 --> 00:00:13,480 when Jeffrey Epstein pleaded guilty to the county was charged 5 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:17,440 with by the state of Florida. So there are several 6 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,480 different people that are involved in this conference. So as 7 00:00:20,519 --> 00:00:23,039 they're speaking, I'll let you know who's talking and then 8 00:00:23,039 --> 00:00:27,199 who responds the court, Good morning, mister Goldberger, who is 9 00:00:27,239 --> 00:00:30,399 Epstein's lawyer, Your honor, we're here for a plea conference. 10 00:00:30,839 --> 00:00:34,920 The court, raise your right hand. After being called as 11 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:37,399 a witness by the defense and after being first duly 12 00:00:37,439 --> 00:00:41,039 sworn by the court, was examined and testified as follows 13 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:45,520 the defendant. Yes, ma'am, that's Epstein. And the court is 14 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:49,560 this one case or two, Miss bellehov Lick. Two? The Court, 15 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,000 may I see the pc affid David in both cases? 16 00:00:52,039 --> 00:00:55,520 Please bellohov Lick. There are no pc affid David's. There 17 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,359 was originally an indictment. The second charge was filed a 18 00:00:58,439 --> 00:01:01,560 rising out of the booking. It was all testimony presented 19 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,719 to the grand jury. The court, let me see the indictment. 20 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:09,120 Then I have one indictment. Miss Bellehovelek correct the Court. 21 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,400 So one case is charged by indictment, one is charged 22 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:17,439 by information. Miss Bellohovlk correct the Court. In case two 23 00:01:17,599 --> 00:01:20,560 zero zero, six zero three six seven four to four, 24 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:24,439 your charge with procuring a person under eighteen for prostitution, 25 00:01:24,879 --> 00:01:29,000 a second degree felony, maximum penalty of fifteen years Department 26 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:33,680 of Corrections, minimum some period of probation, no mandatory minimum apply. 27 00:01:33,879 --> 00:01:37,200 Is that correct? State, Miss Bellehovelek correct the Court. And 28 00:01:37,359 --> 00:01:41,040 in case number six nine four five four CF you're 29 00:01:41,159 --> 00:01:45,040 charged with felony solicitation to a prostitution, a third degree 30 00:01:45,079 --> 00:01:48,319 felony punishable by a maximum penalty of five years in 31 00:01:48,359 --> 00:01:52,280 the Department of Corrections and a minimum probation no mandatory 32 00:01:52,319 --> 00:01:56,599 minimums correct, Miss Bellohovelk correct the Court. The defendant has 33 00:01:56,599 --> 00:02:01,040 no prior criminal record, Miss Bellohovelk correct. Misterger, Yes, your 34 00:02:01,079 --> 00:02:04,719 honor the Court. You check the NCIC as well as 35 00:02:04,719 --> 00:02:08,560 state records, Miss Bellohovlk, Yes, the Court, and the guideline 36 00:02:08,599 --> 00:02:11,080 score sheet I have before me shows twenty one and 37 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:14,240 a half months in the Department of Corrections as the 38 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:18,000 lowest permissible prison sentence in months. Both sides agree to 39 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:22,199 the preparation of the guideline score sheet. Mister Goldberger, so 40 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:26,240 we agree, your honor, Miss BELLOHOVLK. Yes, the Court. What 41 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:30,280 is proposed? It goes on for pages, Mister Goldberger, your honor. 42 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,840 Much of the documentation is acknowledgment by my client to 43 00:02:34,039 --> 00:02:38,719 community control sex offender status. The court, I understand, okay, 44 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:42,560 what is proposed? Those are the maximum and minimums. Mister Epstein. 45 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:45,560 What is proposed is that you will be pleading guilty 46 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:50,199 to felony solicitation to prostitution and procuring a person under 47 00:02:50,199 --> 00:02:54,719 eighteen for prosecution. PSI would be waived. You would be 48 00:02:54,719 --> 00:03:00,400 adjudicated guilty of both felonies. Is that correct, Miss BELLOHOVLK. Correct. Court. 49 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,599 And on six nine four five four, the defendant to 50 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,199 be sentenced to twelve months in the pom Beach County 51 00:03:06,199 --> 00:03:09,400 Detention Facility. He is going to do time in the jail, 52 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:13,719 Miss BELLOHOVLK, Yes, the Court, with credit for one day served. 53 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,840 And on eight ninety three, eight one, he is to 54 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,240 be sentenced to six months in the pom Beach County 55 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:23,080 Jail Detention Facility, with credit for one day served, and 56 00:03:23,159 --> 00:03:25,840 the six month sentence is to be served consecutive to 57 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:30,319 the twelve month sentence. Miss Bellehovlk correct the Court. Following 58 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:32,919 the six month sentence, the defendant will be placed on 59 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:36,360 twelve months of the community control are attached here too 60 00:03:36,639 --> 00:03:40,639 and incorporated herein. As a special condition of community control, 61 00:03:40,879 --> 00:03:44,439 he is to have no unsupervised contact with miners and 62 00:03:44,639 --> 00:03:48,400 supervising adult must be approved. And I would say pre approved, 63 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:50,960 approved ahead of time, not after the fact, by the 64 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,719 Department of Corrections. And you would mean by that his 65 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:59,240 community control officer. Miss Bellehovelk correct, the Court. The defendant 66 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,840 is designated as a sexual offender pursuant the Florida Statute 67 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,360 nine four to three dot zero four to three five, 68 00:04:05,719 --> 00:04:09,400 and must abide by all the corresponding requirements of the statute, 69 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:12,680 a copy of which is attached here too and incorporated 70 00:04:12,719 --> 00:04:15,879 here in. The defendant must provide a DNA sample in 71 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,839 court at the time of the plea. Is this The 72 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:23,319 attachments are the terms and conditions of community control. There 73 00:04:23,319 --> 00:04:25,480 are some squiggles on the bottom of the page. What 74 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:29,000 would those squiggles be? Thank you, your honor. Those are 75 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,680 my clients signature acknowledging that we have gone over all 76 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,959 the conditions the court one page after the plea sheet 77 00:04:35,079 --> 00:04:37,920 that really spells out the terms and conditions of community 78 00:04:37,959 --> 00:04:40,759 control Florida Statute nine four eight dot one oh one. 79 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:43,879 Mister Epstein, is at your squiggle at the bottom of 80 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:48,560 the squiggle, the defendant, yes, ma'am the Court. Would those 81 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,959 be your initials? Epstein, yes, ma'am the Court. Did you 82 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:55,240 read all of the page? Epstein, yes, ma'am the Court. 83 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,439 Can you read the defendant? Yes, ma'am the Court. How 84 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:00,959 far did you go in school? The defendant? High school? 85 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:05,920 The court. That's your highest degree? The defendant, yes, the Court. 86 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,560 And is this your signature on the plea sheet that 87 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,800 recites the terms of the plea I just read Epstein, yes, 88 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:15,439 ma'am the Court. Did you read that document as well? Epstein, Yes, 89 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,920 ma'am the Court. You understand, once you do your twelve 90 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,279 months followed by your six months, all in the Palm 91 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:24,920 Beach County Jail, you will then be put on community control, 92 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:29,560 which involves having an electronic monitor attached to you. Mister Goldberger, Actually, 93 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,199 your honor, the agreement of the parties is to it's 94 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:36,040 community control one which is not monitor the Court, oh 95 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:40,360 community control one? Is that spelled out in here, Miss Bellohovlk. Yes, 96 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:44,279 mister Goldberger, Yes, it is, your honor, Miss Bellohovlck. He 97 00:05:44,319 --> 00:05:47,160 does not fall under the Jessica Lunsford Act, which requires 98 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:51,639 the bracelet the Court Community control two, Miss Bellohovelek, correct 99 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:55,240 the Court community control one. That would be no electronic 100 00:05:55,279 --> 00:06:00,360 monitor Goldberger, that's correct the Court. Now, such of the 101 00:06:00,439 --> 00:06:04,199 terms and conditions of community control one, are you incorporating, 102 00:06:04,519 --> 00:06:06,839 mister Goldberger. I can go through those with you, your 103 00:06:06,879 --> 00:06:09,839 honor the Court. None of them appear to be articulated 104 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:13,160 in the plea sheet, which is why I'm asking, mister Goldberger. 105 00:06:13,519 --> 00:06:16,720 There are the standard conditions of community control by statute 106 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,639 what apply to anyone that goes on community control and 107 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:23,279 out of abundance of caution. We simply memorialize those standard 108 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,399 conditions in the police sheet agreement the Court. The Court 109 00:06:26,399 --> 00:06:30,680 shall require intensive supervision and surveillance for an offender placed 110 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,920 on community control, which may include, but is not limited to, 111 00:06:33,959 --> 00:06:38,240 specified contact with a parole and probation officer specified by who, 112 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:42,879 probation officer specified by you, your honor the Court. I 113 00:06:42,879 --> 00:06:45,000 don't see that in the plea sheet. That's why I'm 114 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:48,120 asking the questions. No one has specified how often, how 115 00:06:48,199 --> 00:06:51,040 frequently he is to have contact with his parole and 116 00:06:51,079 --> 00:06:54,959 probation officer, confinement to an agreed upon residents during the 117 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,360 hours away from employment and public service activity. Has that 118 00:06:58,439 --> 00:07:03,120 been articulated? Bellahovlick, I believe Judge mcsorlee has a standard 119 00:07:03,199 --> 00:07:05,879 order somewhere on the bench up there regarding this, I'm 120 00:07:05,879 --> 00:07:09,920 told by the prosecutor, Miss Lenhart. Judge usually this is 121 00:07:09,959 --> 00:07:12,720 the probation sheet she hands out to folks the court. 122 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,480 I have seen those sheets. I have seen them incorporated 123 00:07:15,519 --> 00:07:18,920 in plea agreements. Which is why I'm asking, mister Goldberger, 124 00:07:18,959 --> 00:07:21,439 I see the court. Is there some reason you didn't 125 00:07:21,519 --> 00:07:25,639 use this particular document in this case, Miss Bellohovlick, I 126 00:07:25,639 --> 00:07:28,560 didn't realize until Miss Lenhart just told me that Judge 127 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:32,160 McSorley has that. Mister Goldberger, we'd be happy to execute 128 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:35,560 that document, your honor. We were we overreacted by just 129 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:39,399 having him sign off on all the conditions of community control. 130 00:07:39,519 --> 00:07:42,879 The court, Well, this is mister Goldberger. Perhaps the better 131 00:07:42,959 --> 00:07:45,680 practice would be the court cuts him off. This is 132 00:07:45,759 --> 00:07:48,879 the reason Judge mcsorlee does this, which makes ultimate sense. 133 00:07:49,319 --> 00:07:51,439 Is we're going to be here half the morning if 134 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:55,720 we're going to decide among ourselves. Now, Goldberger interjects, that 135 00:07:55,839 --> 00:07:58,319 makes sense the court. I'm not going to leave this 136 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:02,279 just unspecified. Lahovlik. We can take care of this right now, 137 00:08:02,279 --> 00:08:04,519 if you could give us a few minutes. The court 138 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,639 all right. These are the standard conditions that Judge McSorley 139 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:10,639 usually uses. If you like them, you need to circle 140 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,519 the ones that apply, and everyone must initial them. We 141 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:15,959 will go over it. If you wish to change. You 142 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,600 understand there is quite a bit of latitude given the 143 00:08:18,639 --> 00:08:21,920 court in putting somebody on community control. If you agree 144 00:08:21,959 --> 00:08:24,720 to some change, let me know, but understand at the 145 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:28,120 outset that I'm a big fan of specificity. I want 146 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,439 to know what he will be doing for employment. I 147 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,159 want to know exactly where he's going to be living, 148 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,200 and I want it on the record now. It can change, 149 00:08:36,279 --> 00:08:38,960 but it can only change with the approval by doc. 150 00:08:39,519 --> 00:08:42,200 I want it crystal clear. I don't want the community 151 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:44,679 control officer who gets this case the day he walks 152 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,360 out upon Beach County to have any doubt or confusion 153 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:50,320 as to exactly what this defendant is supposed to do, 154 00:08:50,639 --> 00:08:53,879 where he's supposed to be when exactly what I'm requesting 155 00:08:54,039 --> 00:08:58,639 that officer to supervise. Miss Bellehovlik absolutely, the Court. Okay, 156 00:08:58,919 --> 00:09:01,799 mister Goldberger, we will work on it. Thank you, your honor. 157 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,240 The Court we will recall that case. They have a 158 00:09:05,399 --> 00:09:09,000 brief recess. Coldberger comes back, your honor, We are back 159 00:09:09,039 --> 00:09:12,360 on Jeffrey Epstein. Actually it worked. We had an opportunity 160 00:09:12,399 --> 00:09:15,840 to go through Judge mcsorley's conditions of community control, and 161 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,960 we asked the Department of Corrections representative to assist us 162 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,840 to make sure we did everything properly. That were very 163 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:26,000 helpful and we executed the document. Miss Bellohovelck, Yes, and 164 00:09:26,039 --> 00:09:29,759 your honor, this defendant doesn't fall under the sex offender probation, 165 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,120 but we have included special sex offender conditions as part 166 00:09:33,159 --> 00:09:36,120 of the community control and they are all circled there 167 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:40,799 the court. The plea agreement stated the defendant is a 168 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:44,639 designated as the sexual offender pursuant of Florida Statute nine 169 00:09:44,759 --> 00:09:48,200 four to two dot zero three five. Miss Bellohovelck, correct, 170 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:51,639 But the sex offender probation the statute is different, and 171 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:55,279 only applies to certain offenses, and this one was not enumerated. 172 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,200 You see how the state played ball with Epstein. You 173 00:09:58,240 --> 00:09:59,799 see what they were doing here, and this is what 174 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:02,759 they did throughout the whole entire thing. So how is 175 00:10:02,799 --> 00:10:06,440 it that your favorite politicians in Congress haven't called up 176 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,720 Miss BELLAHOVEC. How have they called up any of the 177 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,960 people that were involved in this prosecution. Oh, that's right, 178 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,919 because they don't care about justice. They care about gotcha 179 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:20,399 moments the court. Okay, I want to make sure both 180 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:24,399 I and the defendant are clear. The sexual offender statute 181 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:26,240 you were referring to in the police sheet is the 182 00:10:26,279 --> 00:10:30,799 one that requires registration, Miss Bellohove, correct. Mister Goldberger, correct 183 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,919 the court, and we will talk about that, mister Goldberger. Okay, 184 00:10:35,639 --> 00:10:38,240 the court, but it's not the one that requires the 185 00:10:38,279 --> 00:10:42,960 special conditions of sex offender probation, Miss Bellehove, correct the court. 186 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,279 Now rather than nine forty eight, do you want me 187 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:48,399 to disregard nine forty eight? He's read it, Miss BELLOHOVEK. 188 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,399 He's read it. The court. We will leave it in there. 189 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,519 But these conditions are going to go over right now, 190 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,159 are going to be viewed in my mind, yes, and 191 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,840 they have been signed by the defendant and we will 192 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:01,799 go over that in a second. As part of the 193 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:06,159 whole plea, Miss Bellohovelek correct, the Court. So circled are 194 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:09,679 conditions A. You will remain confined to your residence except 195 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:13,039 one half hour before and after your approved employment, community 196 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:17,320 service work or activity approved by your probation officer. B. 197 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,879 You will maintain an hourly accounting of all your activities 198 00:11:20,919 --> 00:11:23,440 on a daily log, which you will submit to your 199 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:28,080 supervising officer upon request. My understanding about the daily log 200 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,080 Maybe I'm just confused from other cases I've heard. Is 201 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:33,840 a daily log? Is a weekly log? I guess it's 202 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:37,000 submitted ahead of time? Is that correct? Probation Officer? That 203 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:40,240 is correct, your honor, the Court. So part A where 204 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,159 he has to stay in his residence except for one 205 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:46,200 hour before and after the approved employment, community service work 206 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:50,360 and other activity. All that's information that will be recorded 207 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,039 in writing, and the defendant will have a copy and 208 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:55,039 he will know exactly where he's supposed to be and 209 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:59,360 when probation officer. That is correct, your honor, the Court, 210 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:03,600 as will his supervising probation officer. And then to document 211 00:12:03,759 --> 00:12:06,480 what he's supposedly done all that, he himself will be 212 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:09,960 keeping a daily log probation officer that is correct, your honor, 213 00:12:10,159 --> 00:12:12,799 the court and the log form will be provided by 214 00:12:12,799 --> 00:12:15,200 the department, and he will be turning that in every 215 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:17,799 time he meets with the probation officer. That is correct, 216 00:12:17,799 --> 00:12:20,919 your honor. All right, folks, we're gonna wrap up episode 217 00:12:20,919 --> 00:12:23,080 one right here, and then the next episode dealing with 218 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:25,399 the topic, we're gonna pick up where we left off. 219 00:12:25,799 --> 00:12:28,200 All of the information that goes with this episode can 220 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:30,120 be found in the description box.