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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Catherine Jileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't

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<v Speaker 1>help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as

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<v Speaker 1>our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested

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<v Speaker 1>in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going over the same parenting topics over and over.

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<v Speaker 2>So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we

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<v Speaker 2>thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,

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<v Speaker 2>if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,

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<v Speaker 2>and let's all make like we're doing something important for

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<v Speaker 2>our families.

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<v Speaker 1>Each Tuesday, we bring you a watch or rewatch of

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<v Speaker 1>an older entertainment property, And for this week of April seventh,

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<v Speaker 1>we're continuing with Laws season two, episode sixteen, The Whole Truth,

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<v Speaker 1>a episode I will warn y'all is very bad to

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<v Speaker 1>watch after you have just gotten shots in your eyes

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<v Speaker 1>for macular Jaja generation and can't read subtitles on the TV.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah Korean, and then there was subtitles, and then there

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<v Speaker 1>was my husband reading the subtitles. It's like, oh, shoot,

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<v Speaker 1>I should have watched this before. I could have checked

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<v Speaker 1>and scene if it was going to matter whether I

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<v Speaker 1>could see letters, but I got the gist. Yes, the

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<v Speaker 1>acting job of my husband was sufficient, okay goodness for

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<v Speaker 1>me to know. I'm swinning at the set. What did

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<v Speaker 1>they say? Oh? Well, But I have been looking forward

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<v Speaker 1>to this episode for a very long time, just for

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<v Speaker 1>that last scene, which I have watched on YouTube any

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<v Speaker 1>number of times recently. This if you look up lost

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<v Speaker 1>got milk any milk, The point at which I remember thinking, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>so he's not just a guy. Yeah, And just the

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<v Speaker 1>way he was disrespecting Jack in Locke was quite delightful

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<v Speaker 1>and makes me laugh every time. And what a performance

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<v Speaker 1>by Michael Emerson, just in that little scene, just the

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<v Speaker 1>way he's chomping on on cereal and playing the two

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<v Speaker 1>of them and uh just perfect, perfect, But some interesting

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<v Speaker 1>things in the rest of it too. Yes, we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to have another baby Island baby. See last week Claire

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<v Speaker 1>was being so are you a mother? Yeah, okay, we are.

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<v Speaker 2>Gonna need some more diapers, gonna need another cradle.

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<v Speaker 1>Just out of spite, Son retroactively got herself righted. So

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<v Speaker 1>take that, Claire. Despite the worst ob g I n

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<v Speaker 1>in the world. Yeah, like lying to her and then

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<v Speaker 1>stop her on the street to give her this information. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're gonna lie to or just lie to work,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, don't then say oh in here now you

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<v Speaker 1>have to lie to your husband. Oh exactly what a bum?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, And also like bad you for you sir

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<v Speaker 3>rolling up on someone while they're just walking their dog

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<v Speaker 3>and be like get in the car.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, I don't care what you are. No no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>no no no. Yeah. Yeah number one, I'm not getting

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<v Speaker 1>in your car. Number two, I got this dog. You

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<v Speaker 1>really want this dog in your car? You want him

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<v Speaker 1>in your car? He looks pretty drooy. So yeah, that

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<v Speaker 1>was all just a setup for this to give a

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<v Speaker 1>little extra attention to this storyline, but it was stupid.

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<v Speaker 1>Go On sucked up and complain about it. Yeah yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, no good, no good, but no good.

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<v Speaker 2>And then then you waited for Jin to blow his

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<v Speaker 2>stack again.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah at son, as he's done so many times before.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, this island somehow has had an effect

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<v Speaker 2>on him. He's willing to believe this was a miracle

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<v Speaker 2>and not that she she did on him somehow on

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<v Speaker 2>this on this so called.

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<v Speaker 1>Desertive to think of the timetable of how long they've

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<v Speaker 1>been there, because they left things very ambiguous with the

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<v Speaker 1>old boyfriend. But I think it's too long. Yeah, and certainly, well,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't know how pregnant she is, do you know?

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<v Speaker 1>That's true? That's true, pregnant enough that she didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>she was. Well, yes, she must have suspended. And Kate

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<v Speaker 1>asks the question for all of us, who flies with

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<v Speaker 1>the pregnancy? Like, seriously, Sawyer has pregnant, But I did

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy that, you know. Step one, go talk to Sawyer, like.

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<v Speaker 2>I know she you know, she has this suspicion and

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<v Speaker 2>she's like, oh, what am I going to do?

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<v Speaker 1>How am I going to figure this out? You know?

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<v Speaker 2>I guess I could go talk to the doctor on

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<v Speaker 2>the island, or I could, you know, just wait a

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<v Speaker 2>to go.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk to Sayer because that man has everything that's right,

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<v Speaker 1>and so he does. And I was so mad at

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<v Speaker 1>him for being a jerk and joking around with Jin

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<v Speaker 1>about it, Yeah, until I realized Bernard figured it. Yeah, Bernard,

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<v Speaker 1>Bernard and Rose. I've been wondering what happened to them,

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<v Speaker 1>were they reunited and did they sail off into the sunset?

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<v Speaker 1>We haven't seen them there they are yeah, so.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean he also like there was no there was

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<v Speaker 2>no guarantee that it would be positive.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Sawyer just assumed that.

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<v Speaker 2>If she wants it, it's gonna like guy, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>there's lots of reasons why that why that might not

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<v Speaker 2>have been what anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to believe that he remembered that Gin would

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<v Speaker 1>have no idea what he was saying. So he was

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<v Speaker 1>just having himself some fun, right, But because otherwise you

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<v Speaker 1>have to hate him. But and you know we love

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<v Speaker 1>to love to hate. This is true. Yeah. And before that,

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<v Speaker 1>we have, from a parenting point of view, that terrible

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<v Speaker 1>scene where Jen and Son are trying to get pregnant

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<v Speaker 1>and Jin says, a baby will make everything. A baby

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<v Speaker 1>will make everything. Okay, yeah, it will fix all our problems.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure your dad won't expect me to kill people.

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<v Speaker 1>Once I'm a fun it'll be fine. Oh man, don't

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<v Speaker 1>go into parenting with that, you guys, it's your own problems, yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just a baby. It does not have magical powers.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe on the island, maybe on the magical powers. But

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<v Speaker 1>in your general life, do not put that pressure on

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<v Speaker 1>an infant. No, because it's gonna cry and it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>make everything more difficult for the immediate moment.

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<v Speaker 2>So and yes, yeah, Son's dad's gonna still be Son's dead. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>once exactly, there's a baby. He too, once was in

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<v Speaker 2>the presence of a small baby, and that's right. He

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<v Speaker 2>didn't change him.

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<v Speaker 1>It continues to be somebody that doctors are so scared

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<v Speaker 1>of they light to their patients. So yeah, no, no

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<v Speaker 1>going to the you know, crashing on an island, that'll

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<v Speaker 1>make a difference. Yeah, you don't have to be killing

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<v Speaker 1>any people right now unless you go off on a

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<v Speaker 1>trek with somebody who is intent to do so. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but nobody's given him a gun. Who would give Charlie

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<v Speaker 1>a gun? Did so give Charlie? Know when and how

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<v Speaker 1>that happened. That doesn't seem right. He doesn't seem to

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<v Speaker 1>be on team gun. I think if you were passing

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<v Speaker 1>them out, he's on team. Pat him on the head

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<v Speaker 1>and tell him to go catch.

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<v Speaker 2>A fish, but not an oyster. There are things he

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<v Speaker 2>can just pluck one out of the water for a gift.

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<v Speaker 1>For Yes, yeah, it's it's rough. You know, there's no uh,

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<v Speaker 1>just as there's no drug store to go pick up

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<v Speaker 1>a pregnancy test, there's no place, there's no Walgreens to

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<v Speaker 1>go get a card and a Whitman sampler. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>there's flowers in the jungle, right, he could have done

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<v Speaker 1>himself a bouquet. Yeah, yeah, next time, might be a

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<v Speaker 1>little tree frog in one. That'll drive him driver cris Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's band your horizons there. Maybe they see if Hurley's

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<v Speaker 1>got any candy bars, you could pass it on. He hasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I think didn't We didn't we have a scene where

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<v Speaker 2>Rose enjoyed.

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<v Speaker 1>At a candy barin I think we did. Yes, So

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<v Speaker 1>there you go. Yeah, you're getting something disgusting out of

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<v Speaker 1>the ocean when you could just see if there's any

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<v Speaker 1>more candy bars in the hatch right, Just so, just

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<v Speaker 1>like you know everybody goes to Sawyer for their Sundrys,

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<v Speaker 1>you could probably go to Hurley for your candy bars.

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<v Speaker 1>We know that man has a stash for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>So well, was it this episode where he was just yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he ran into in the jungle she was about to

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<v Speaker 1>A stick and he's like, oh, I just found this

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<v Speaker 1>in the jungle. What don't even melted. It's like, buddy,

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<v Speaker 1>she's got so many more problems right now than you

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<v Speaker 1>and your candy bar. Just proceed. You're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>get any judgment here right now. Other things are on

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<v Speaker 1>her minde yes, indeed, So I was happy that at

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<v Speaker 1>the end there Jin put Son's garden back. Can you

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<v Speaker 1>put a garden back? Yeah? I don't know that well

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<v Speaker 1>he tried, but that that did remind me parenting wise

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<v Speaker 1>of you know, if somebody is doing something you don't like,

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<v Speaker 1>you can talk to them and talk to them and

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<v Speaker 1>talk to them, or you can just remove the thing

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<v Speaker 1>that they're doing right oftentime. In this case, it was

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<v Speaker 1>sort of sad and uncomfortable when he did it. But

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time, you know, with a kid, taking

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<v Speaker 1>the toy away is sometimes easier than saying don't do that,

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<v Speaker 1>don't do that, don't do that. I don't do that.

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<v Speaker 2>This is why all the blinds are closed in my

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<v Speaker 2>the window.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my goodness. But but she still knows there's stuff

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<v Speaker 1>out there that probably needs to get barned down. Just

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<v Speaker 1>gonna sense them. Yeah, advanced hearing, and hear the car

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<v Speaker 1>go by, fill the mailman within our general vicinity.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the mailman, definitely, we can. We can sense the

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<v Speaker 2>footsteps when that happens.

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<v Speaker 1>But oh goodness, this is the dog you throw into

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<v Speaker 1>the doctor's the annoying doctor's car and then run. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>do you want me to get in the car. No,

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<v Speaker 1>but here's a dog for you I enjoy. Ah, yes, yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>sneaking me think of my own two barking dog. Who's

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<v Speaker 1>who's gone now? But her? Her Twitter account lives on.

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<v Speaker 2>Does she ever about her? We'll get into Twitter. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>get into Twitter tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>She did, she did, She posted quite a bit. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I told her she should go bark at the internet,

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<v Speaker 1>and so she did. Well. I believed my stress anyway.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, so we have now the unlikely team of Ana,

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<v Speaker 4>Lucia said, and Charlie setting off on a probably doomed

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<v Speaker 4>errand to look.

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<v Speaker 1>For this stupid balloon. I can't believe anyone thinks it's

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<v Speaker 1>out there. Oh there's a map, he draw map.

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<v Speaker 2>Out that explained everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and she goes to sayid to go with her?

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<v Speaker 1>You know the one person who actually, she says, who

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<v Speaker 1>deserves to hate her but does not, whereas everybody else

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<v Speaker 1>just hates her on general principle. Right, but sayid Is

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<v Speaker 1>is channeling all his hatred onto Henry in the hopes

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<v Speaker 1>that he is in fact another and then he can

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<v Speaker 1>kill him. Right, Uh, he may have a point. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, channeling, channeling your bad feelings towards something that

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<v Speaker 1>possibly deserves them, and not over somebody who has maybe

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<v Speaker 1>made a mistake. Is uh is that do we think

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<v Speaker 1>that's helping my currenting point of view? Well, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>slippery slope, I go. But you gotta do something, right, Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, productive channel in a productive way. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>killing a fellow castaway won't really help anything. No, it was,

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<v Speaker 1>so let's just build your rage towards somebody who may

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<v Speaker 2>But also, are we just going to drop the whole

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<v Speaker 2>There was this entire like medical facility buried underground from.

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<v Speaker 1>Last week, like we're just gonna we won't be talking

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<v Speaker 1>would think that they would have gone right back and

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<v Speaker 1>told Jack, Hey, you know there's like operating rooms, there's

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<v Speaker 1>all sorts of stuff, mempsys, to something that would be

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<v Speaker 1>of use to you, our only medical professional, right, perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>you would like to come check it out. Apparently not.

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<v Speaker 1>Then then they would have to admit that that that

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<v Speaker 1>they went through the jungle by themselves with Rousseau and

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<v Speaker 1>did did an unauthorized sortie, and that would get them

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<v Speaker 1>into no end of problems with Jack. Well, who you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Anta Lucian say you'd had to sneak away. It was

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<v Speaker 1>Anta Lucia said, Lock and Jack are a little too

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<v Speaker 1>concerned with Lock and Jack, which is a little too

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<v Speaker 1>busy worrying about locker Jack, which is certainly true. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and Henry has picked up that vibe too.

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<v Speaker 2>He's he's working it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so funny. That last scene just fills me with

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<v Speaker 1>to like any milk. Yeah, it was great. Whatud I

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<v Speaker 1>he describes just exactly what.

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<v Speaker 2>He does, and you just see the color draining from

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, but Locke is looking at Jack going, see, I

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<v Speaker 1>told you, I told you you're bringing him out here

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<v Speaker 1>for breakfast. Yeah, eating cereal is undoubtedly well beyond his exploration.

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<v Speaker 1>Just like the ranch dressing, they used better preservatives back

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<v Speaker 1>in the old days, you know, they didn't have to

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<v Speaker 1>worry about Yeah, the FDA, So it was I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>it's fun. So it seems that your suspicions about Henry

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<v Speaker 1>are bearing out, and uh, we shall see where that

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<v Speaker 1>goes from here. Let's see if next week gives us

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<v Speaker 1>any hints on where this is going to go. Next Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll continue with season two, episode seventeen of Lost, called Lockdown.

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<v Speaker 1>Do they have enough room to lock every Tunday? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, there's this whole suite of rooms. They've

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<v Speaker 1>seen at least three hatches, so just divide them up

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<v Speaker 1>into parties and have them walk around the Yeah, how

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<v Speaker 1>big is that hatch? Do we know which one seems

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I don't know the one with the computer, right, Scot,

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<v Speaker 2>the armory, Scot, the bunk beds. It's got the kitchen,

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<v Speaker 2>the laundry room, the pantry.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh. Oh, well, it'll be fun. It'll be a party.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll be asleepover So we will see you back here

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