Speaker 1: Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and
Speaker 1: I'm Catherine Jileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't
Speaker 1: help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as
Speaker 1: our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested
Speaker 1: in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm
Speaker 1: going over the same parenting topics over and over.
Speaker 2: So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,
Speaker 2: we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we
Speaker 2: thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,
Speaker 2: if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,
Speaker 2: and let's all make like we're doing something important for
Speaker 2: our families.
Speaker 1: Each Tuesday, we bring you a watch or rewatch of
Speaker 1: an older entertainment property, And for this week of April seventh,
Speaker 1: we're continuing with Laws season two, episode sixteen, The Whole Truth,
Speaker 1: a episode I will warn y'all is very bad to
Speaker 1: watch after you have just gotten shots in your eyes
Speaker 1: for macular Jaja generation and can't read subtitles on the TV.
Speaker 1: Yeah Korean, and then there was subtitles, and then there
Speaker 1: was my husband reading the subtitles. It's like, oh, shoot,
Speaker 1: I should have watched this before. I could have checked
Speaker 1: and scene if it was going to matter whether I
Speaker 1: could see letters, but I got the gist. Yes, the
Speaker 1: acting job of my husband was sufficient, okay goodness for
Speaker 1: me to know. I'm swinning at the set. What did
Speaker 1: they say? Oh? Well, But I have been looking forward
Speaker 1: to this episode for a very long time, just for
Speaker 1: that last scene, which I have watched on YouTube any
Speaker 1: number of times recently. This if you look up lost
Speaker 1: got milk any milk, The point at which I remember thinking, oh,
Speaker 1: so he's not just a guy. Yeah, And just the
Speaker 1: way he was disrespecting Jack in Locke was quite delightful
Speaker 1: and makes me laugh every time. And what a performance
Speaker 1: by Michael Emerson, just in that little scene, just the
Speaker 1: way he's chomping on on cereal and playing the two
Speaker 1: of them and uh just perfect, perfect, But some interesting
Speaker 1: things in the rest of it too. Yes, we're going
Speaker 1: to have another baby Island baby. See last week Claire
Speaker 1: was being so are you a mother? Yeah, okay, we are.
Speaker 2: Gonna need some more diapers, gonna need another cradle.
Speaker 1: Just out of spite, Son retroactively got herself righted. So
Speaker 1: take that, Claire. Despite the worst ob g I n
Speaker 1: in the world. Yeah, like lying to her and then
Speaker 1: stop her on the street to give her this information. Right,
Speaker 1: if you're gonna lie to or just lie to work,
Speaker 1: you know, don't then say oh in here now you
Speaker 1: have to lie to your husband. Oh exactly what a bum?
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, And also like bad you for you sir
Speaker 3: rolling up on someone while they're just walking their dog
Speaker 3: and be like get in the car.
Speaker 1: No, no, I don't care what you are. No no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no no. Yeah. Yeah number one, I'm not getting
Speaker 1: in your car. Number two, I got this dog. You
Speaker 1: really want this dog in your car? You want him
Speaker 1: in your car? He looks pretty drooy. So yeah, that
Speaker 1: was all just a setup for this to give a
Speaker 1: little extra attention to this storyline, but it was stupid.
Speaker 1: Go On sucked up and complain about it. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: so yeah, no good, no good, but no good.
Speaker 2: And then then you waited for Jin to blow his
Speaker 2: stack again.
Speaker 4: Yeah at son, as he's done so many times before.
Speaker 2: But you know, this island somehow has had an effect
Speaker 2: on him. He's willing to believe this was a miracle
Speaker 2: and not that she she did on him somehow on
Speaker 2: this on this so called.
Speaker 1: Desertive to think of the timetable of how long they've
Speaker 1: been there, because they left things very ambiguous with the
Speaker 1: old boyfriend. But I think it's too long. Yeah, and certainly, well,
Speaker 1: we don't know how pregnant she is, do you know?
Speaker 1: That's true? That's true, pregnant enough that she didn't know
Speaker 1: she was. Well, yes, she must have suspended. And Kate
Speaker 1: asks the question for all of us, who flies with
Speaker 1: the pregnancy? Like, seriously, Sawyer has pregnant, But I did
Speaker 1: enjoy that, you know. Step one, go talk to Sawyer, like.
Speaker 2: I know she you know, she has this suspicion and
Speaker 2: she's like, oh, what am I going to do?
Speaker 1: How am I going to figure this out? You know?
Speaker 2: I guess I could go talk to the doctor on
Speaker 2: the island, or I could, you know, just wait a
Speaker 2: couple months and see what happens. You know, I'm going
Speaker 2: to go.
Speaker 1: Talk to Sayer because that man has everything that's right,
Speaker 1: and so he does. And I was so mad at
Speaker 1: him for being a jerk and joking around with Jin
Speaker 1: about it, Yeah, until I realized Bernard figured it. Yeah, Bernard,
Speaker 1: Bernard and Rose. I've been wondering what happened to them,
Speaker 1: were they reunited and did they sail off into the sunset?
Speaker 1: We haven't seen them there they are yeah, so.
Speaker 2: I mean he also like there was no there was
Speaker 2: no guarantee that it would be positive.
Speaker 1: You know, Sawyer just assumed that.
Speaker 2: If she wants it, it's gonna like guy, you know,
Speaker 2: there's lots of reasons why that why that might not
Speaker 2: have been what anyway.
Speaker 1: I want to believe that he remembered that Gin would
Speaker 1: have no idea what he was saying. So he was
Speaker 1: just having himself some fun, right, But because otherwise you
Speaker 1: have to hate him. But and you know we love
Speaker 1: to love to hate. This is true. Yeah. And before that,
Speaker 1: we have, from a parenting point of view, that terrible
Speaker 1: scene where Jen and Son are trying to get pregnant
Speaker 1: and Jin says, a baby will make everything. A baby
Speaker 1: will make everything. Okay, yeah, it will fix all our problems.
Speaker 1: I'm sure your dad won't expect me to kill people.
Speaker 1: Once I'm a fun it'll be fine. Oh man, don't
Speaker 1: go into parenting with that, you guys, it's your own problems, yourself.
Speaker 1: It's just a baby. It does not have magical powers.
Speaker 1: Maybe on the island, maybe on the magical powers. But
Speaker 1: in your general life, do not put that pressure on
Speaker 1: an infant. No, because it's gonna cry and it's gonna
Speaker 1: make everything more difficult for the immediate moment.
Speaker 2: So and yes, yeah, Son's dad's gonna still be Son's dead. Yes,
Speaker 2: once exactly, there's a baby. He too, once was in
Speaker 2: the presence of a small baby, and that's right. He
Speaker 2: didn't change him.
Speaker 1: It continues to be somebody that doctors are so scared
Speaker 1: of they light to their patients. So yeah, no, no
Speaker 1: going to the you know, crashing on an island, that'll
Speaker 1: make a difference. Yeah, you don't have to be killing
Speaker 1: any people right now unless you go off on a
Speaker 1: trek with somebody who is intent to do so. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but nobody's given him a gun. Who would give Charlie
Speaker 1: a gun? Did so give Charlie? Know when and how
Speaker 1: that happened. That doesn't seem right. He doesn't seem to
Speaker 1: be on team gun. I think if you were passing
Speaker 1: them out, he's on team. Pat him on the head
Speaker 1: and tell him to go catch.
Speaker 2: A fish, but not an oyster. There are things he
Speaker 2: can just pluck one out of the water for a gift.
Speaker 1: For Yes, yeah, it's it's rough. You know, there's no uh,
Speaker 1: just as there's no drug store to go pick up
Speaker 1: a pregnancy test, there's no place, there's no Walgreens to
Speaker 1: go get a card and a Whitman sampler. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: there's flowers in the jungle, right, he could have done
Speaker 1: himself a bouquet. Yeah, yeah, next time, might be a
Speaker 1: little tree frog in one. That'll drive him driver cris Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's band your horizons there. Maybe they see if Hurley's
Speaker 1: got any candy bars, you could pass it on. He hasn't.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: I think didn't We didn't we have a scene where
Speaker 2: Rose enjoyed.
Speaker 1: At a candy barin I think we did. Yes, So
Speaker 1: there you go. Yeah, you're getting something disgusting out of
Speaker 1: the ocean when you could just see if there's any
Speaker 1: more candy bars in the hatch right, Just so, just
Speaker 1: like you know everybody goes to Sawyer for their Sundrys,
Speaker 1: you could probably go to Hurley for your candy bars.
Speaker 1: We know that man has a stash for sure.
Speaker 2: So well, was it this episode where he was just yeah,
Speaker 2: he ran into in the jungle she was about to
Speaker 2: go pian.
Speaker 1: A stick and he's like, oh, I just found this
Speaker 1: in the jungle. What don't even melted. It's like, buddy,
Speaker 1: she's got so many more problems right now than you
Speaker 1: and your candy bar. Just proceed. You're not going to
Speaker 1: get any judgment here right now. Other things are on
Speaker 1: her minde yes, indeed, So I was happy that at
Speaker 1: the end there Jin put Son's garden back. Can you
Speaker 1: put a garden back? Yeah? I don't know that well
Speaker 1: he tried, but that that did remind me parenting wise
Speaker 1: of you know, if somebody is doing something you don't like,
Speaker 1: you can talk to them and talk to them and
Speaker 1: talk to them, or you can just remove the thing
Speaker 1: that they're doing right oftentime. In this case, it was
Speaker 1: sort of sad and uncomfortable when he did it. But
Speaker 1: at the same time, you know, with a kid, taking
Speaker 1: the toy away is sometimes easier than saying don't do that,
Speaker 1: don't do that, don't do that. I don't do that.
Speaker 2: This is why all the blinds are closed in my
Speaker 2: house because the dog can't be trusted to look out
Speaker 2: the window.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. But but she still knows there's stuff
Speaker 1: out there that probably needs to get barned down. Just
Speaker 1: gonna sense them. Yeah, advanced hearing, and hear the car
Speaker 1: go by, fill the mailman within our general vicinity.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the mailman, definitely, we can. We can sense the
Speaker 2: footsteps when that happens.
Speaker 1: But oh goodness, this is the dog you throw into
Speaker 1: the doctor's the annoying doctor's car and then run. Yeah,
Speaker 1: do you want me to get in the car. No,
Speaker 1: but here's a dog for you I enjoy. Ah, yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: sneaking me think of my own two barking dog. Who's
Speaker 1: who's gone now? But her? Her Twitter account lives on.
Speaker 2: Does she ever about her? We'll get into Twitter. We'll
Speaker 2: get into Twitter tomorrow.
Speaker 1: She did, she did, She posted quite a bit. Yes,
Speaker 1: I told her she should go bark at the internet,
Speaker 1: and so she did. Well. I believed my stress anyway.
Speaker 4: But yeah, so we have now the unlikely team of Ana,
Speaker 4: Lucia said, and Charlie setting off on a probably doomed
Speaker 4: errand to look.
Speaker 1: For this stupid balloon. I can't believe anyone thinks it's
Speaker 1: out there. Oh there's a map, he draw map.
Speaker 2: Out that explained everything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and she goes to sayid to go with her?
Speaker 1: You know the one person who actually, she says, who
Speaker 1: deserves to hate her but does not, whereas everybody else
Speaker 1: just hates her on general principle. Right, but sayid Is
Speaker 1: is channeling all his hatred onto Henry in the hopes
Speaker 1: that he is in fact another and then he can
Speaker 1: kill him. Right, Uh, he may have a point. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, channeling, channeling your bad feelings towards something that
Speaker 1: possibly deserves them, and not over somebody who has maybe
Speaker 1: made a mistake. Is uh is that do we think
Speaker 1: that's helping my currenting point of view? Well, it's a
Speaker 1: slippery slope, I go. But you gotta do something, right, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, productive channel in a productive way. You know,
Speaker 1: killing a fellow castaway won't really help anything. No, it was,
Speaker 1: so let's just build your rage towards somebody who may
Speaker 1: in fact have harmed you.
Speaker 2: But also, are we just going to drop the whole
Speaker 2: There was this entire like medical facility buried underground from.
Speaker 1: Last week, like we're just gonna we won't be talking
Speaker 1: about that anymore, not until they needed I guess you
Speaker 1: would think that they would have gone right back and
Speaker 1: told Jack, Hey, you know there's like operating rooms, there's
Speaker 1: all sorts of stuff, mempsys, to something that would be
Speaker 1: of use to you, our only medical professional, right, perhaps
Speaker 1: you would like to come check it out. Apparently not.
Speaker 1: Then then they would have to admit that that that
Speaker 1: they went through the jungle by themselves with Rousseau and
Speaker 1: did did an unauthorized sortie, and that would get them
Speaker 1: into no end of problems with Jack. Well, who you know,
Speaker 1: Anta Lucian say you'd had to sneak away. It was
Speaker 1: Anta Lucia said, Lock and Jack are a little too
Speaker 1: concerned with Lock and Jack, which is a little too
Speaker 1: busy worrying about locker Jack, which is certainly true. Yes,
Speaker 1: and Henry has picked up that vibe too.
Speaker 2: He's he's working it.
Speaker 1: It's so funny. That last scene just fills me with
Speaker 1: to like any milk. Yeah, it was great. Whatud I
Speaker 1: do if I was one of these others? And then
Speaker 1: he describes just exactly what.
Speaker 2: He does, and you just see the color draining from
Speaker 2: their faces.
Speaker 1: Yes, but Locke is looking at Jack going, see, I
Speaker 1: told you, I told you you're bringing him out here
Speaker 1: for breakfast. Yeah, eating cereal is undoubtedly well beyond his exploration.
Speaker 1: Just like the ranch dressing, they used better preservatives back
Speaker 1: in the old days, you know, they didn't have to
Speaker 1: worry about Yeah, the FDA, So it was I'm sure
Speaker 1: it's fun. So it seems that your suspicions about Henry
Speaker 1: are bearing out, and uh, we shall see where that
Speaker 1: goes from here. Let's see if next week gives us
Speaker 1: any hints on where this is going to go. Next Tuesday,
Speaker 1: we'll continue with season two, episode seventeen of Lost, called Lockdown.
Speaker 1: Do they have enough room to lock every Tunday? Well,
Speaker 1: like I said, there's this whole suite of rooms. They've
Speaker 1: seen at least three hatches, so just divide them up
Speaker 1: into parties and have them walk around the Yeah, how
Speaker 1: big is that hatch? Do we know which one seems
Speaker 1: to have the one that they're using.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I don't know the one with the computer, right, Scot,
Speaker 2: the armory, Scot, the bunk beds. It's got the kitchen,
Speaker 2: the laundry room, the pantry.
Speaker 1: Uh. Oh, well, it'll be fun. It'll be a party.
Speaker 1: You'll be asleepover So we will see you back here
Speaker 1: tomorrow to discuss running Point. Thank you for listening. You
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