WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:01.639 Oh, that's are. 2 00:00:45.200 --> 00:00:49.119 Hello and welcome to the show. This is the Cult 3 00:00:49.320 --> 00:00:53.039 of Conspiracy and I am the Cage to Night and today, 4 00:00:53.119 --> 00:00:57.439 good cult members. We have a pretty substantial guest in 5 00:00:57.479 --> 00:00:59.679 the in the track record of guests that we've had 6 00:00:59.719 --> 00:01:01.359 come on the show, a lot of people claim to be, 7 00:01:01.719 --> 00:01:04.480 you know, somebody who knows some things about some conspiratorial things, 8 00:01:04.560 --> 00:01:07.200 know some things about government corruption, but very few people 9 00:01:07.239 --> 00:01:10.359 have first hand account of it being done to them 10 00:01:10.439 --> 00:01:14.400 and their people. Today, good cult members, we have Sali 11 00:01:14.560 --> 00:01:18.200 Hidayah on the show to speak on behalf of him, 12 00:01:18.560 --> 00:01:22.280 his people, the country where he comes from, brother, for 13 00:01:22.680 --> 00:01:25.079 on behalf of all of us Americans to you and 14 00:01:25.120 --> 00:01:30.480 all of the Turkish standing people. Welcome to the show. Absolutely. 15 00:01:30.959 --> 00:01:32.640 So when you reached out to us, you said that 16 00:01:32.719 --> 00:01:39.280 you were a Weager born to Turkistani correct, yes, okay. 17 00:01:39.319 --> 00:01:41.879 So for those that may not know what is a 18 00:01:41.920 --> 00:01:44.959 Weiger Muslim? What is the differences between a Weiger Muslim 19 00:01:44.959 --> 00:01:47.239 as opposed to some of the other types that we 20 00:01:47.319 --> 00:01:50.680 might be more familiar with based off of mainstream media. 21 00:01:50.799 --> 00:01:54.120 So the Wars that's actually how we pronounced it, but 22 00:01:54.159 --> 00:01:58.200 most Americans can't pronounce it. So it's for your war, 23 00:01:58.760 --> 00:02:00.439 but I can't. 24 00:02:05.319 --> 00:02:08.719 Yeah, I'm sorry, bro. American English. 25 00:02:10.319 --> 00:02:11.560 Super bad right out the gate. 26 00:02:12.800 --> 00:02:17.400 It's not a problem. Most most people can't. I think 27 00:02:17.439 --> 00:02:22.159 the most common Western pronunciation of it is weiger. But 28 00:02:22.960 --> 00:02:24.520 we can also accept. 29 00:02:26.000 --> 00:02:27.159 Okay. 30 00:02:28.159 --> 00:02:34.360 So the Wars are ethnically Turkic people. Actually they are 31 00:02:34.800 --> 00:02:41.520 hybrid people, mostly Turkic and Indo European who are native 32 00:02:41.719 --> 00:02:48.759 to Central Asia, specifically to East Turkistan. They are predominantly 33 00:02:49.360 --> 00:02:56.800 Muslim population, though throughout history have pretty much practiced every 34 00:02:57.400 --> 00:03:01.080 major religion out there, except for possibly Judaism, but other 35 00:03:01.159 --> 00:03:07.520 than that, every other major religions stretching from you know, 36 00:03:07.960 --> 00:03:13.919 Shamanism in the ancient past to Talentism to Zoroastrianism to 37 00:03:14.479 --> 00:03:22.000 Buddhism to Nestorian Christianity and then Islam has been the 38 00:03:22.000 --> 00:03:26.560 the the predominant religion of the Wars, starting in the 39 00:03:27.719 --> 00:03:31.000 initially in the tenth century, but really became dominant after 40 00:03:31.039 --> 00:03:31.919 the sixteenth century. 41 00:03:32.080 --> 00:03:35.199 What sect of Islam is more dominant in that area? 42 00:03:36.159 --> 00:03:42.000 So the Wars are actually predominantly Uh, they're Sunni. In fact, 43 00:03:42.039 --> 00:03:45.840 I don't think there's any she Muslims amongst but they're 44 00:03:45.879 --> 00:03:50.560 mostly Sudani but even within the Sunni sector, they followed 45 00:03:50.560 --> 00:03:54.879 the Hanafi school of thought, which is the most liberal 46 00:03:56.199 --> 00:03:58.280 interpretation or school of thought in Islam. 47 00:03:58.520 --> 00:04:02.000 Okay. So if we're looking on the litmus test here right, 48 00:04:02.080 --> 00:04:08.680 this is more of the moderate and progressive brand of Islam. Yes, 49 00:04:08.879 --> 00:04:11.280 got you, got you? Okay? All right? So, and you 50 00:04:11.319 --> 00:04:14.039 said that's been around since about the tenth century. Now 51 00:04:14.199 --> 00:04:17.360 Turkistan itself as a country, East Turkistan, I should say, 52 00:04:18.240 --> 00:04:20.240 I've got to be honest with you. When we first 53 00:04:20.319 --> 00:04:23.240 heard of you, I was thinking it was like Turkmenistan 54 00:04:23.519 --> 00:04:24.800 and that. I was like, wait, no, that's not what 55 00:04:24.839 --> 00:04:26.120 he said. That's not what he said. Then I was like, 56 00:04:26.600 --> 00:04:29.079 there's so many of these other ones. I like Turjikistan. 57 00:04:29.120 --> 00:04:30.639 But I'm like, there's no way this is a dude 58 00:04:30.680 --> 00:04:34.240 from Turjikistan coming in. I didn't actually know where East 59 00:04:34.240 --> 00:04:37.560 Turkistan was on a map. You when you say central Asia, 60 00:04:37.639 --> 00:04:40.560 you mean like dead center of the continent of Asia. Like, 61 00:04:40.680 --> 00:04:41.519 no jokes on that. 62 00:04:42.279 --> 00:04:50.680 Yeah, So East Turkistan actually, historically East Turkistan was part 63 00:04:50.680 --> 00:04:58.199 of Turkistan. The East versus West divide came initially in 64 00:04:58.279 --> 00:05:02.639 the seventeen thirties. This is when the Russian Empire began 65 00:05:02.959 --> 00:05:08.879 expanding into Central Asia, so to distinguish the parts that 66 00:05:08.959 --> 00:05:15.240 the Russians were slowly occupying from the other part, the 67 00:05:15.319 --> 00:05:21.360 east versus west geographic delineation started happening in the seventeen thirties, 68 00:05:21.920 --> 00:05:24.360 but historically it used to be called Turkistan. So if 69 00:05:24.360 --> 00:05:28.199 you look at maps from you know, any anywhere from 70 00:05:29.399 --> 00:05:34.800 the five hundreds CE common era all the way up 71 00:05:34.879 --> 00:05:40.160 until really the eighteen hundreds, it was labeled as Turkistan. 72 00:05:41.120 --> 00:05:46.000 Then East Turakistan began to become more distinguished from West Takastan, 73 00:05:46.319 --> 00:05:52.399 which by the eighteen hundreds fell largely under Russian the 74 00:05:52.480 --> 00:05:57.480 Russian Empire, So modern day West Turkistan is the independent 75 00:05:57.879 --> 00:06:02.920 nations of Kalzakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Zbekistan, Tajikistan, turk Panistan, so forth, 76 00:06:03.199 --> 00:06:07.519 whereas East ta Kistan. In seventeen fifty nine it was 77 00:06:07.560 --> 00:06:13.319 invaded by the Manchu Qing Empire, which had invaded and 78 00:06:13.399 --> 00:06:18.439 occupied China a century prior, and then they invaded East 79 00:06:18.439 --> 00:06:22.759 ta Kistan and initially governed it as a military colony, 80 00:06:23.519 --> 00:06:33.160 meaning that they stationed Manchu forces to oversee the colony. 81 00:06:33.240 --> 00:06:38.279 But didn't you know, engage in the direct administration. They 82 00:06:38.439 --> 00:06:42.360 mostly collected taxes and so forth, and let the local 83 00:06:42.439 --> 00:06:47.519 principalities in East ta Kistan govern, you know, their internal affairs, 84 00:06:47.519 --> 00:06:52.399 you could say. However, during eighteen seventeen fifty nine to 85 00:06:52.439 --> 00:06:57.680 about eighteen sixty three, forty two major armed uprisings against 86 00:06:57.720 --> 00:07:03.759 the Manchu occupation occurred, against magic colonial rule occurred, and 87 00:07:04.160 --> 00:07:09.360 in eighteen sixty four, Eastern Kistan was able to declare 88 00:07:09.399 --> 00:07:11.800 its independence or the people of Eastern Kistan declared their 89 00:07:11.839 --> 00:07:16.560 independence and established the state of Yattusha on November twelfth, 90 00:07:16.680 --> 00:07:21.279 eighteen sixty four. And Yetushar in the Ilu language literally 91 00:07:21.319 --> 00:07:25.839 translates as the seven Cities, and that referred to these 92 00:07:25.839 --> 00:07:32.279 seven major principalities or major cities in Eastern Kistan. And 93 00:07:32.360 --> 00:07:39.240 this is a fun fact why Eastern Kistan later became 94 00:07:39.319 --> 00:07:43.839 occupied is that during this period there was something called 95 00:07:43.879 --> 00:07:48.680 the Great Great Game, which was a strategic competition, great 96 00:07:48.720 --> 00:07:52.240 power competition between the British Empire which was in South 97 00:07:52.279 --> 00:07:59.079 Asia and India today Pakistan versus the Russian Empire which 98 00:07:59.079 --> 00:08:02.319 was in Central Asia. So this Great Game was essentially 99 00:08:02.439 --> 00:08:06.240 a strategic competition for the Great Game, which was Central 100 00:08:06.240 --> 00:08:11.720 Asia itself for Turkistan. And so the Russians, fearing that 101 00:08:11.800 --> 00:08:18.800 the British would use East Turkistan to apply pressure on 102 00:08:18.839 --> 00:08:23.759 the Russian Empire specifically over its colonial rule in West Turkistan, 103 00:08:24.759 --> 00:08:28.720 you know, essentially decided that it was best to support 104 00:08:28.800 --> 00:08:33.600 the Manchu Qing dynasty in reconquering East Turkistan. So in 105 00:08:33.720 --> 00:08:41.000 eighteen seventy six, the Manchuaching Empire launched an invasion and 106 00:08:41.320 --> 00:08:47.679 in December of eighteen seventy seven they occupied East Turkistan, 107 00:08:48.840 --> 00:08:51.480 and a couple of years later, in eighteen eighty four, 108 00:08:51.600 --> 00:08:53.679 that's when they're like, you know what, we need to 109 00:08:54.200 --> 00:08:59.000 directly administer this territory. You know, we can't leave these 110 00:08:59.039 --> 00:09:03.360 people to to manage their own affairs. We need to 111 00:09:03.360 --> 00:09:06.360 do that. We need to start this colonization. And so 112 00:09:07.000 --> 00:09:10.480 this is the first time that they tried to annex 113 00:09:10.559 --> 00:09:14.000 East Turkistan as Shinjong, which in the Chinese language shin 114 00:09:14.679 --> 00:09:20.600 means new jung means territory or frontier. And then the 115 00:09:20.639 --> 00:09:26.799 English Chinese dictionary from eighteen eighty six, I believe or 116 00:09:27.120 --> 00:09:30.279 eighty six or ninety six, it literally translates it as 117 00:09:30.399 --> 00:09:30.960 the colony. 118 00:09:31.480 --> 00:09:34.120 So real quick as we're talking about the Great Game 119 00:09:34.120 --> 00:09:36.120 that took place, right and there's a lot of historical 120 00:09:36.159 --> 00:09:39.000 documentation on the Great Game that took place between Russia 121 00:09:39.000 --> 00:09:40.519 and England at this time, and it was all a 122 00:09:40.519 --> 00:09:44.440 big race. Some of it is for the resources, some 123 00:09:44.480 --> 00:09:46.639 of it was strictly for the land itself and the 124 00:09:46.639 --> 00:09:50.240 strategic reasons for the land. When it comes to East Turkestan, 125 00:09:50.559 --> 00:09:53.559 what was the push? Was it the land itself in 126 00:09:53.600 --> 00:09:56.639 the strategic importance of it? Is there some sort of 127 00:09:56.679 --> 00:09:59.039 a resource that could be found there that these colonial 128 00:09:59.080 --> 00:10:01.440 powers are trying to exploit to the best they could. 129 00:10:01.480 --> 00:10:04.320 What was what was the big push to control East 130 00:10:04.320 --> 00:10:05.840 Turkestan on that scale? 131 00:10:06.720 --> 00:10:10.480 Well, in in terms in terms of the Great Game, 132 00:10:11.240 --> 00:10:15.240 both powers, both the British Empire and the Russian Empire, 133 00:10:16.159 --> 00:10:20.639 they saw East Turkistan as initially like a buffer between 134 00:10:20.679 --> 00:10:25.279 their two empires. They didn't really consider it in terms of, 135 00:10:25.399 --> 00:10:30.480 you know, the economic prospects. They just considered it as 136 00:10:30.519 --> 00:10:33.919 a buffer. But both sides knew that if if one 137 00:10:34.120 --> 00:10:39.480 or the other occupied it, then ultimately it would put 138 00:10:39.519 --> 00:10:43.559 the two empires right next to each other, and that 139 00:10:43.720 --> 00:10:47.919 is unacceptable for you know, empires, especially when they perceive 140 00:10:47.960 --> 00:10:51.639 another empire as a threat, so that's why they allowed 141 00:10:51.720 --> 00:10:56.639 the Chinese or the man teaching dynasts to to essentially 142 00:10:56.679 --> 00:11:01.200 occupy it. And for the Teaching Empire, they also saw 143 00:11:01.240 --> 00:11:05.960 East ta Kistan as a buffer, you know, protecting the 144 00:11:06.159 --> 00:11:11.799 Chinese heartland from any potential invasions, whether it's through by 145 00:11:11.840 --> 00:11:17.240 the British Empire or the Russian Empire, because to enter 146 00:11:17.360 --> 00:11:20.039 the Chinese Heartland you would have to go through East 147 00:11:20.080 --> 00:11:22.440 ta Kistan first. So for them it was like a 148 00:11:22.480 --> 00:11:26.480 strategic buffer. And they needed territory. So they wanted to 149 00:11:26.519 --> 00:11:31.080 expand their having a rising population, so they wanted to 150 00:11:31.120 --> 00:11:35.840 you know, secure a territorial buffer. So in eighteen eighty four, 151 00:11:36.039 --> 00:11:40.600 the Manchu Chin Empire formerly tries to annex East Pakistan 152 00:11:40.759 --> 00:11:45.480 as Shinjiong. The people of East Takistan actually resist continue 153 00:11:45.519 --> 00:11:52.080 to resist the Manchu Empire, engaging in several uprisings into 154 00:11:52.080 --> 00:11:56.399 the early nine nineteen hundreds, including nineteen oh five, nineteen 155 00:11:56.440 --> 00:12:00.559 oh seven, nineteen twelve. In nineteen twelve, the Manchu Qing 156 00:12:01.200 --> 00:12:04.159 dynasty itself was overthrown by the Chinese Revolution. 157 00:12:04.519 --> 00:12:05.879 Yeah, that was the Boxer Rebellion. 158 00:12:05.919 --> 00:12:10.159 Correct, Yes, the Shinhai Revolution as a Chinese call it ye. 159 00:12:10.519 --> 00:12:17.679 And then in our case, well in Mongolia's case, Mongoli 160 00:12:17.759 --> 00:12:22.039 declared independence, but also tried to declare independence. We also tried, 161 00:12:22.120 --> 00:12:27.120 but the Chinese warlords that the remnants of the Qing Empire, 162 00:12:27.519 --> 00:12:32.159 they crushed all of our efforts and they tried to 163 00:12:32.360 --> 00:12:34.879 you know, they essentially governed it as their own little 164 00:12:35.960 --> 00:12:40.320 fief them, you could say, independent of the rising, you know, 165 00:12:40.440 --> 00:12:46.000 the Chinese Republic. However, in nineteen thirty one, the last 166 00:12:46.080 --> 00:12:51.720 vestige of Turkic you know, autonomy you could say, was 167 00:12:51.759 --> 00:12:56.720 the k was the Kumil Khanate. So the Kumul Khanates 168 00:12:57.279 --> 00:13:01.960 Prince Shahmsu died and then with that the Chinese warlords 169 00:13:02.720 --> 00:13:06.919 were like, okay, because the Kumul is like the major 170 00:13:07.000 --> 00:13:11.360 principality next to the Chinese border, next to the border 171 00:13:11.399 --> 00:13:15.600 of East Ta Kastan and China. So that was what 172 00:13:15.720 --> 00:13:19.720 was preventing, you know, they were preventing effectively Chinese colonization 173 00:13:19.799 --> 00:13:24.519 from from taking you know, from fulfilling in East Ta 174 00:13:24.559 --> 00:13:29.399 Kistan from becoming filled. So what the Kumul Khan abolished, 175 00:13:30.039 --> 00:13:32.320 the Chinese began to the Chinese war wars began to 176 00:13:32.360 --> 00:13:36.240 try to colonize East Turkistan with Chinese settlers, and so 177 00:13:36.320 --> 00:13:41.399 this sparked an armed uprising and by nineteen thirty two 178 00:13:42.279 --> 00:13:45.080 this spread out all throughout East ta Kistan to where 179 00:13:45.440 --> 00:13:49.480 in the south in Hotean a independent government was set up. 180 00:13:50.120 --> 00:13:53.879 And then in nineteen thirty three it sparked, you know, 181 00:13:54.559 --> 00:13:58.200 the rebellion sparked all across the country and the different 182 00:13:58.879 --> 00:14:07.960 Turkic factions or groups came together and decided that they 183 00:14:07.960 --> 00:14:11.360 were going to unite and create a modern republic. So 184 00:14:11.399 --> 00:14:15.039 this is where the first East Takistan Republic was established 185 00:14:15.039 --> 00:14:19.840 on November twelfth of nineteen thirty three. However, because of 186 00:14:20.919 --> 00:14:25.639 East Traakistan's proximity to the British Empire, which is in India, 187 00:14:26.679 --> 00:14:31.120 and because the Soviet Union across the border is occupying 188 00:14:31.120 --> 00:14:35.279 West Turkistan, the Soviets felt threatened by an independent East 189 00:14:35.279 --> 00:14:39.080 Turkistan because they thought we would get too closely aligned 190 00:14:39.120 --> 00:14:43.320 with the British and they thought that by us being independent, 191 00:14:43.759 --> 00:14:49.480 this would you inspire the neighboring West Turkistan. Our people 192 00:14:49.480 --> 00:14:53.759 there are brothers essentially, are ethnic in to you rise 193 00:14:53.840 --> 00:14:59.159 up against the Soviet occupation. So the Soviets supported the 194 00:14:59.240 --> 00:15:05.240 Chinese war lords along with Chinese Muslim forces to essentially 195 00:15:06.039 --> 00:15:10.919 invade and toppled the Eastern Eastern Republic, and this happened 196 00:15:10.960 --> 00:15:13.799 in April sixteenth of nineteen thirty four. So our first 197 00:15:13.840 --> 00:15:17.279 republic was very short lived. Though we had our own passport, 198 00:15:17.320 --> 00:15:20.080 we had our own armed forces, we had our flag 199 00:15:20.159 --> 00:15:27.879 and national anthem, we had everything that met the qualifications 200 00:15:28.279 --> 00:15:32.440 of the state under the Montevido Convention of nineteen thirty three. 201 00:15:32.879 --> 00:15:37.759 So we had everything that was required to be recognized 202 00:15:37.799 --> 00:15:41.240 as a state, and we even sent emissaries to India, 203 00:15:41.559 --> 00:15:46.080 even to the Soviet Union, to a Turkey, Germany and 204 00:15:46.120 --> 00:15:51.080 other places to seek recognition and support. Then in nineteen 205 00:15:51.120 --> 00:15:57.120 thirty seven, after the Soviets, they placed a Chinese warlord 206 00:15:57.200 --> 00:16:01.600 named Shin Sei as the gun owner of East Takistan. 207 00:16:01.679 --> 00:16:08.000 And again East Turkistan was, you know, the facto autonomous 208 00:16:08.000 --> 00:16:11.120 in that session in that period, as in it was 209 00:16:11.159 --> 00:16:14.440 not tied to the Republic of China, nor was it 210 00:16:15.000 --> 00:16:18.679 tied to the Soviet Union. It was its own little entity. 211 00:16:19.200 --> 00:16:22.600 But it was being overseen by a Chinese dignitary. 212 00:16:22.440 --> 00:16:23.919 Yeah, Chinese warlord. Yeah. 213 00:16:24.480 --> 00:16:28.039 So also just real quick when you say Chinese warlord, 214 00:16:28.720 --> 00:16:31.440 do we in fact mean a warlord or on paper 215 00:16:31.480 --> 00:16:33.960 at least was he a dignitary? But he was super brutal, 216 00:16:34.080 --> 00:16:36.960 Like to what classification are we calling this person a warlord? 217 00:16:37.519 --> 00:16:41.000 I mean he was. He was an actual warlord and 218 00:16:41.039 --> 00:16:46.320 he was very brutal. So in nineteen thirty seven, the 219 00:16:46.399 --> 00:16:50.879 survivors of the first East tra Kistan Republic, notably our 220 00:16:51.000 --> 00:16:58.879 defense minister, he had survived, he had he instigated an 221 00:16:58.960 --> 00:17:04.720 armed uprising and fled to India to try to seek 222 00:17:04.799 --> 00:17:09.960 western you know, global support for upon the success of 223 00:17:10.000 --> 00:17:13.559 the armed uprising. So in April nineteen thirty, nineteen thirty seven, 224 00:17:13.880 --> 00:17:17.799 we had an armed uprising which was very successful. It 225 00:17:18.559 --> 00:17:22.960 liberated the southern half of East Rakistan very quickly from 226 00:17:23.039 --> 00:17:26.960 the Chinese warlords, you know forces, to the point that 227 00:17:27.359 --> 00:17:32.319 in September nineteen thirty seven, the Soviet Union it could 228 00:17:32.319 --> 00:17:36.799 no longer you know, from its own It's seated as 229 00:17:36.799 --> 00:17:40.039 a security threat and could no longer you know, sit 230 00:17:40.119 --> 00:17:44.960 idle as you know, are we were making you know advances. 231 00:17:45.279 --> 00:17:50.720 So it directly invaded East Ta Kastan and engaged in 232 00:17:50.759 --> 00:17:56.640 the largest bombardment campaign in Central Asia and in October 233 00:17:56.640 --> 00:18:00.400 of nineteen thirty seven, the uprising was crushed as shortly 234 00:18:00.480 --> 00:18:03.079 after that. It was believed that one hundred thousand people 235 00:18:03.079 --> 00:18:08.599 were killed during that six months of uprising, mostly by 236 00:18:08.920 --> 00:18:14.119 Soviet bombardments, air strikes, you know, from the air aerial bombardments. 237 00:18:14.759 --> 00:18:18.839 And then Shen said, the Chinese warlord, he began to 238 00:18:19.920 --> 00:18:24.799 engage in a mass persecution to where anyone against his 239 00:18:25.000 --> 00:18:28.000 regime or anyone that they deemed were against his regime. 240 00:18:28.079 --> 00:18:32.680 So he targeted the native Turkic population, and over three 241 00:18:32.799 --> 00:18:38.400 hundred thousand people were arrested and imprisoned. Over ten thousand 242 00:18:41.240 --> 00:18:44.799 families were families all of their wealth and assets were seized. 243 00:18:45.599 --> 00:18:47.880 So all of our rich people at that time, all 244 00:18:47.920 --> 00:18:51.759 their wealth was taken because they were you know, some 245 00:18:51.839 --> 00:18:55.480 of the wealthy families previously played an important role in 246 00:18:55.880 --> 00:18:58.799 the in funding the armed uprisings. 247 00:18:58.319 --> 00:19:00.160 Right, they were seen as a threat or that they 248 00:19:00.160 --> 00:19:03.480 had resources at their disposals. So you know, even if 249 00:19:03.559 --> 00:19:06.119 we can maybe trust them, we just can't be taking 250 00:19:06.119 --> 00:19:08.920 a risk on it, yeah, exactly. 251 00:19:09.039 --> 00:19:14.400 And then so this discontinued until nineteen forty three under 252 00:19:14.480 --> 00:19:19.759 Shanks sty And the interesting thing is in nineteen forty one, 253 00:19:20.319 --> 00:19:24.960 Hitler launches Operation Barbosa, which is the invasion of the 254 00:19:25.000 --> 00:19:28.519 Soviet Union. So by nineteen forty two, the Soviet Union 255 00:19:28.680 --> 00:19:33.880 is actually on you know, losing ground to the Nazi invasion. 256 00:19:34.480 --> 00:19:37.799 So as a result, they can't pay attention to you know, 257 00:19:38.000 --> 00:19:42.640 East Pakistan. And so the Chinese warlord seeing that, you know, 258 00:19:43.519 --> 00:19:47.880 our people are still you know, discontent with the Chinese 259 00:19:48.000 --> 00:19:52.400 rule and could potentially rise up any time, and without 260 00:19:52.440 --> 00:19:55.319 his Soviet backers, Shanks City is going to be weak, 261 00:19:55.440 --> 00:19:59.640 in a very weak position. So he formally aligns himself 262 00:20:00.079 --> 00:20:04.279 with the Republic of China or the Chinese nationalist regime. 263 00:20:05.240 --> 00:20:07.759 And they in turn asked him to, you know, because 264 00:20:07.799 --> 00:20:11.559 he still has Soviet advisors in the country in East Turkistan, 265 00:20:11.799 --> 00:20:14.319 so they asked him to, you know, expel the Soviet 266 00:20:14.359 --> 00:20:19.880 advisors and you know, give oath allegiance to the Republic 267 00:20:19.880 --> 00:20:23.319 of China. So Shins say, does that. By nineteen forty three, 268 00:20:23.400 --> 00:20:27.200 the Soviet Union is actually winning the war. It's you know, 269 00:20:27.480 --> 00:20:31.960 gaining ground over the Nazis, and so Stalin he's pissed 270 00:20:32.839 --> 00:20:36.799 because Shins say not only you know, kind of like 271 00:20:37.880 --> 00:20:41.319 stop him in the back. You could say, but the 272 00:20:41.400 --> 00:20:46.559 fact that we there was sporadic uprising, small scale uprisings 273 00:20:46.599 --> 00:20:49.920 and protests happening in East Turkistan. So Stalin decided that, 274 00:20:50.039 --> 00:20:54.000 you know, actually I could take advantage of this by 275 00:20:54.000 --> 00:20:59.920 supporting this these people in pressuring China for two reasons. One, 276 00:21:01.359 --> 00:21:07.480 Stalin needed uranium and other resources for his atomic bomb project, 277 00:21:08.079 --> 00:21:13.200 and that's where that was found in northern East Pakistan. Secondly, 278 00:21:14.119 --> 00:21:17.160 again because major powers they don't like even if you 279 00:21:17.200 --> 00:21:21.920 look at today's conflict in Ukraine, the ongoing war in Ukraine, 280 00:21:22.839 --> 00:21:25.319 why is it because why is Russia? You know what? 281 00:21:25.319 --> 00:21:28.480 What what what does Russia claim that it's doing? It's 282 00:21:28.519 --> 00:21:32.240 because Ukraine is a thread or you know, NATO, if 283 00:21:32.319 --> 00:21:35.599 NATO expansion along its borders would you know, be a 284 00:21:35.640 --> 00:21:41.640 threat to its security, et cetera. Similarly, Mongolia, which declared 285 00:21:41.640 --> 00:21:47.839 independence in nineteen twelve, was not recognized as independent, trying 286 00:21:47.880 --> 00:21:50.400 to refuse to recognize it, and China aim to continue 287 00:21:50.440 --> 00:21:54.519 to try to you know, regain Mongolia so to ensure 288 00:21:54.599 --> 00:21:58.920 Mongolia's independence was recognized, and it continued to serve as 289 00:21:58.960 --> 00:22:02.839 a buffer between the Soviet Union in China or else 290 00:22:03.720 --> 00:22:06.160 the Soviet Union in China would end up sharing, you know, 291 00:22:06.279 --> 00:22:09.799 thousands of kilometers of waters, which would again be very 292 00:22:09.839 --> 00:22:14.119 difficult to to you know, safeguard or protect. 293 00:22:14.680 --> 00:22:17.960 Yeah, during that timeframe, people look back at the history 294 00:22:18.000 --> 00:22:20.599 of China and Russia and their relationship, and yes, while 295 00:22:20.640 --> 00:22:23.119 both of them were communist stations, especially by this time, 296 00:22:23.640 --> 00:22:27.119 there was about a two decades stint where China and 297 00:22:27.240 --> 00:22:30.440 Russia were not really close allies by anything other than 298 00:22:30.440 --> 00:22:32.240 the fact that they shared a system of government as 299 00:22:32.240 --> 00:22:35.720 far as Communism's concerned. A lot of people. We talked 300 00:22:35.720 --> 00:22:37.519 about that as a matter of fact on an episode 301 00:22:37.559 --> 00:22:40.640 when we were talking about the space race during that time. 302 00:22:40.720 --> 00:22:43.640 It was right when the tension started to cool off, 303 00:22:43.680 --> 00:22:46.119 and by the late nineteen fifties China and Russia were 304 00:22:46.119 --> 00:22:50.000 back being super tight. But during the thirties, forties and 305 00:22:50.279 --> 00:22:54.200 into the early fifties, it was tumultuous at best for sure. 306 00:22:54.240 --> 00:22:57.119 So having a buffer state like Mongolia, they're kind of 307 00:22:57.160 --> 00:22:59.240 tied in the middle. Either they're gonna side with China 308 00:22:59.319 --> 00:23:01.799 or they're gonna side with Russia. And it I mean 309 00:23:02.640 --> 00:23:04.640 it's literally you're trying to choose the lesser of two 310 00:23:04.680 --> 00:23:06.799 evils at that point. The same thing that I believe 311 00:23:07.279 --> 00:23:08.960 East Turkestan had to choose as well. 312 00:23:09.640 --> 00:23:14.400 Yes, and so in that period, so Stalin wanted to 313 00:23:14.440 --> 00:23:18.440 create a buffer and secure you know, recognition in Vat 314 00:23:18.559 --> 00:23:24.599 of Mongolids independence. So the Soviet Union initially supported our 315 00:23:27.079 --> 00:23:30.519 initially supported our uprisings in nineteen forty four, which led 316 00:23:30.559 --> 00:23:34.279 to the creation of the Second East Turkistan Republic on 317 00:23:34.400 --> 00:23:38.160 November twelfth, nineteen forty four. In fact, we could have 318 00:23:38.160 --> 00:23:42.240 declared it on November seventh, but our leaders at the 319 00:23:42.240 --> 00:23:45.160 time they wanted to wait until November twelfth to align 320 00:23:45.160 --> 00:23:49.400 it with the first East Turkistan Republic because the anniversary 321 00:23:49.759 --> 00:23:55.799 very cool. So initially we quickly succeed in liberating the 322 00:23:57.279 --> 00:24:01.319 northwest quarter of East Turkistan, so about twenty five percent 323 00:24:01.359 --> 00:24:04.640 of our territory we were able to quickly liberate from 324 00:24:04.960 --> 00:24:13.559 the Chinese nationalist regime forces. However, the Soviet Union essentially 325 00:24:13.960 --> 00:24:18.000 after it, you know, the after it was able to 326 00:24:18.039 --> 00:24:23.119 persuade or pressure the Republic of China to recognize Outer 327 00:24:23.200 --> 00:24:28.359 Mongoli's independence. It forced us to engage in a in 328 00:24:28.440 --> 00:24:33.599 a ceasefire and engaged in peace talks with the nationalist regime. 329 00:24:33.799 --> 00:24:38.680 So our president refused because he believed that, you know, 330 00:24:38.799 --> 00:24:42.240 there was no that the Chinese would never uphold their promises, 331 00:24:42.599 --> 00:24:44.680 and that this was just you know, these peace talks 332 00:24:44.680 --> 00:24:48.200 were just waste of time and we should continue seizing 333 00:24:48.240 --> 00:24:51.400 the moment to quickly liberate all of our country. 334 00:24:51.599 --> 00:24:54.480 That man was smarter than his than his age bracket 335 00:24:54.519 --> 00:24:57.559 on that one, because boyle boy, if history didn't prove 336 00:24:57.599 --> 00:24:58.160 him correct. 337 00:24:59.279 --> 00:25:04.960 Yeah, And so the Soviets they they had to remove 338 00:25:05.079 --> 00:25:08.519 him because they felt that, you know, he would oppose 339 00:25:08.680 --> 00:25:11.319 their plans. So they called him to a meeting in 340 00:25:11.359 --> 00:25:15.119 al Madi, which was then under the Soviet Union. And 341 00:25:15.160 --> 00:25:17.279 then as soon as he went to al Mahdi, he 342 00:25:17.400 --> 00:25:22.039 was arrested by the MKGBM, which is the predecessor of 343 00:25:22.160 --> 00:25:26.480 the KGB, and they took him to house arrest in 344 00:25:26.519 --> 00:25:29.640 touch Kent in Uzbekistan, and he died there in nineteen 345 00:25:29.680 --> 00:25:34.640 seventy six. Now coming back in April of nineteen in 346 00:25:35.039 --> 00:25:38.599 no In July of June of nineteen forty six, we 347 00:25:38.680 --> 00:25:42.759 are forced to sign a peace treaty with the Republic 348 00:25:42.799 --> 00:25:47.039 of China. The East Akistan Republic and the Republic of 349 00:25:47.119 --> 00:25:51.240 China signed a priest treaty in which the Chinese nationalists 350 00:25:51.279 --> 00:25:55.960 promised that you know, they would grab us autonomy, that 351 00:25:56.359 --> 00:25:59.079 you know, we would be able to govern ourselves. They 352 00:25:59.079 --> 00:26:04.839 would seize colin ization, they would seize you know, they 353 00:26:04.880 --> 00:26:12.119 would withdraw their forces externally, like internally, we'd be responsible 354 00:26:12.119 --> 00:26:15.319 for all of our affairs externally, as far as the 355 00:26:15.319 --> 00:26:19.279 international community is concerned, like foreign policy would be left 356 00:26:19.279 --> 00:26:24.960 to the Chinese. So the Soviet Union coerced us for 357 00:26:25.160 --> 00:26:32.279 stars to sign this treaty, this deal, and initially the 358 00:26:32.400 --> 00:26:38.079 Chinese regime they set up a puppet coalition government, provincial 359 00:26:38.319 --> 00:26:43.480 government in which we shared powers, and they were going 360 00:26:43.519 --> 00:26:48.119 to slowly implement the you know, the agreements conditions. And 361 00:26:48.279 --> 00:26:51.839 in response to that, in nineteen forty seven, China was 362 00:26:51.920 --> 00:26:55.680 drafting its constitution. The Republic of China was drafting its constitution. 363 00:26:56.279 --> 00:27:00.319 So the leaders of the Eastern Kistan Republic traveled to 364 00:27:00.680 --> 00:27:06.039 Nanjang and met with Shang Kai Chek and said, Okay, 365 00:27:06.480 --> 00:27:09.799 we'd like you to one stop referring to us as 366 00:27:09.839 --> 00:27:13.880 shin Jiang because this is an offensive colonial term. We're 367 00:27:13.920 --> 00:27:17.400 not a new territory. Referred to us as East Turkestan 368 00:27:17.480 --> 00:27:21.119 what we've historically been, or just call us Turkistan. If 369 00:27:21.160 --> 00:27:22.880 you don't want to call us Eeast Turkistan, just call 370 00:27:22.960 --> 00:27:27.559 us Turkistan. And then we want you to ensure in 371 00:27:27.640 --> 00:27:32.799 your constitution that that the promises of autonomy is written there, 372 00:27:32.880 --> 00:27:37.279 that we have autonomy per your constitution. And of course 373 00:27:38.000 --> 00:27:43.319 the Chinese refuse. John Kishik refuses to this date. For example, 374 00:27:43.440 --> 00:27:45.759 and if you look at the Republic of China's constitution, 375 00:27:46.240 --> 00:27:52.960 there are specific articles that mentioned some autonomy and local 376 00:27:53.039 --> 00:27:59.759 governors for Tibet and Mongolia, which the ROC continues to claim, 377 00:28:00.319 --> 00:28:03.599 but there's no mention of East Pakistan or even so 378 00:28:03.720 --> 00:28:06.440 called Shinjong in that so. 379 00:28:06.799 --> 00:28:10.160 For their constitution, it's already Chinese territory. 380 00:28:11.119 --> 00:28:15.400 Well for their constitution, they it's ambiguous. There's no mention 381 00:28:15.519 --> 00:28:20.000 of us. So it's like if they wanted to colonize it, 382 00:28:20.000 --> 00:28:23.079 it would be it would be easy. It's ambiguous. You know, 383 00:28:25.279 --> 00:28:28.960 if they success succeeded in occupying it and colonizing it, 384 00:28:29.279 --> 00:28:31.880 then you know, they could deny us the right to 385 00:28:32.160 --> 00:28:35.240 you know, self determination autonomy by stating, oh, you know, 386 00:28:35.799 --> 00:28:36.839 we never promised you. 387 00:28:36.799 --> 00:28:38.160 That it's very large. 388 00:28:38.519 --> 00:28:41.240 You're the country is very large itself, right, It was 389 00:28:41.279 --> 00:28:45.240 like forty times as big as the Netherlands. Like, it's 390 00:28:45.240 --> 00:28:46.640 a it's a large. 391 00:28:46.680 --> 00:28:49.519 It's like seventeen percent of China. 392 00:28:49.640 --> 00:28:51.720 Yeah, like they were to lose it. It's like seventeen 393 00:28:51.759 --> 00:28:54.640 percent of their land population area. 394 00:28:54.680 --> 00:28:59.279 It's actually about it's a little bit of over twenty percent. Actually, okay, 395 00:29:00.160 --> 00:29:04.039 it's so what the seventeen percent you're referring to as 396 00:29:04.119 --> 00:29:08.240 the so called Hinchang wigor Autonomous Region, which makes up 397 00:29:08.680 --> 00:29:14.839 the majority of East tar Kistan. East itself incorporates neighboring 398 00:29:15.400 --> 00:29:20.359 parts of some of our territory, like the Council Region 399 00:29:20.559 --> 00:29:26.000 was annexed into the territories of chin Kai and Gansu 400 00:29:26.039 --> 00:29:32.960 Province by the the KMT Republic of China. So easter 401 00:29:33.759 --> 00:29:36.839 is actually one million, hundred and twenty four hundred eighteen 402 00:29:36.880 --> 00:29:39.480 square kilometers, which is roughly a fifth of what is 403 00:29:39.559 --> 00:29:41.880 now the PRC. Wow. 404 00:29:42.240 --> 00:29:44.000 So it's a huge portion that they don't want to 405 00:29:44.000 --> 00:29:46.359 give up at all, of course for any. 406 00:29:46.200 --> 00:29:51.759 Reason, because at that time they started discovering gold, oil, urania, 407 00:29:52.480 --> 00:29:56.079 and so all of these were resources that they needed, 408 00:29:57.559 --> 00:29:59.839 and so they were reluctant to give it up, even 409 00:29:59.880 --> 00:30:03.400 though so technically they didn't really have they didn't really 410 00:30:03.480 --> 00:30:06.240 have the juror or even the facto control over large 411 00:30:06.279 --> 00:30:09.640 parts of it. They only controlled they came to really 412 00:30:09.680 --> 00:30:14.960 control the Urumchi and eastern parts where they had managed 413 00:30:14.960 --> 00:30:17.880 to you know, send in their troops. 414 00:30:18.079 --> 00:30:19.920 So like you said, they had the facto or to 415 00:30:20.000 --> 00:30:22.559 duro rule over it, but they had a figurehead that 416 00:30:22.759 --> 00:30:26.799 was listed as the for lack of better words to say, 417 00:30:26.799 --> 00:30:30.319 the governor of and yeah, that was pretty much it does. 418 00:30:30.359 --> 00:30:32.039 Turkestan have its own military. 419 00:30:33.079 --> 00:30:37.920 So by nineteen forty six, actually we had an armed 420 00:30:37.960 --> 00:30:41.799 force of over sixty thousand troops active troops with over 421 00:30:41.839 --> 00:30:46.559 one hundred thousand reserves, so we had a considerable military. 422 00:30:46.599 --> 00:30:51.759 In fact, our initial you know, we started off with 423 00:30:52.000 --> 00:30:54.920 guerrilla warfare in the nineteen forty three to nineteen forty four. 424 00:30:55.400 --> 00:31:01.000 Then we seized many of the Chinese base is an 425 00:31:01.039 --> 00:31:04.119 East Turkistan, including air bases, so all of our planes. 426 00:31:04.400 --> 00:31:07.640 Actually we've had forty two planes that the United States 427 00:31:08.000 --> 00:31:11.480 had supplied the Chinese nationalists to fight against the Japanese 428 00:31:12.039 --> 00:31:17.920 and to suppress our uprising, our national liberation war. The 429 00:31:18.000 --> 00:31:21.680 Chinese had stationed those you know, brought those planes to 430 00:31:21.680 --> 00:31:24.319 East Takistan and we ended up capturing them. 431 00:31:25.119 --> 00:31:27.440 So you said after nineteen forty six, So at the 432 00:31:27.519 --> 00:31:29.559 end of World War two you had a fighting force 433 00:31:29.599 --> 00:31:33.279 of about sixty thousand. So, and I don't mean for 434 00:31:33.359 --> 00:31:36.200 this question to be inflammatory, but I am very curious. 435 00:31:36.680 --> 00:31:39.799 Were any of those a part of the Nazi battalions 436 00:31:39.839 --> 00:31:43.720 that came from Turkistan. Now, whenever I say this, I 437 00:31:43.759 --> 00:31:46.680 do not know if it means West or East Turkistan. 438 00:31:46.799 --> 00:31:49.160 And like you said, there is a distinction between this too. Right, 439 00:31:49.160 --> 00:31:52.000 we got Kajikistan, Kazakhstan, all these plays that were a 440 00:31:52.039 --> 00:31:56.000 part of Western Turkistan. So I just learned this today 441 00:31:56.039 --> 00:31:57.200 as a matter of fact, doing a little bit of 442 00:31:57.240 --> 00:32:01.279 research for the show. There was multiple nations that felt 443 00:32:01.480 --> 00:32:04.240 that if they would side with the Nazis during World 444 00:32:04.279 --> 00:32:06.920 War Two, then they might gain independence when the war 445 00:32:06.960 --> 00:32:10.640 wrapped up. And apparently it started off with God, I 446 00:32:10.680 --> 00:32:13.599 can't remember his name. He was from India. I want 447 00:32:13.640 --> 00:32:16.440 to say Pusan or something like that. 448 00:32:16.680 --> 00:32:20.119 Yeah, the Indias. He was the Free India Army. He 449 00:32:20.240 --> 00:32:25.519 was pretty much the Indian independence leader during the during 450 00:32:25.559 --> 00:32:26.480 the World War two era. 451 00:32:26.839 --> 00:32:29.000 And so, and this makes sense because Britain at the 452 00:32:29.000 --> 00:32:32.039 time very cruel to India. So if there's a side 453 00:32:32.079 --> 00:32:35.359 fighting against Britain, then hey, maybe we'll throw in with them, 454 00:32:35.359 --> 00:32:37.279 if nothing else, enemy of my enemy. So there was 455 00:32:37.319 --> 00:32:41.400 actually Indian Nazi regiments that ended up fighting in Europe. 456 00:32:41.799 --> 00:32:44.440 Apparently there were some that came from Turkistan as well. 457 00:32:44.680 --> 00:32:46.720 So I don't know it, but like you said, sixty 458 00:32:46.759 --> 00:32:49.400 thousand right after World War Two, I'm wondering how many 459 00:32:49.440 --> 00:32:53.039 of these like German training beforehand. But you're saying that's 460 00:32:53.079 --> 00:32:53.920 not the case. 461 00:32:54.440 --> 00:32:57.880 Not in our case, because most of the ones that 462 00:32:59.319 --> 00:33:02.240 were in that ended up becoming the Turkistan Legion. That's 463 00:33:02.279 --> 00:33:05.680 what that's what it is officially called that you're referring to. Yeah, 464 00:33:05.759 --> 00:33:09.319 they were actually from West Turkistan. So they were the 465 00:33:09.480 --> 00:33:13.000 Soviet Union press at least two to three million Turkic 466 00:33:13.039 --> 00:33:17.200 peoples in Central Asia into the Soviet Red Army and 467 00:33:17.480 --> 00:33:21.720 symp them against the Nazis, and so about it was 468 00:33:21.839 --> 00:33:24.279 estimated about one hundred to two hundred thousand of them 469 00:33:24.319 --> 00:33:28.759 were captured by the Nazis ended up becoming POWs. And 470 00:33:28.799 --> 00:33:32.559 then the Nazis were able to turn a couple of 471 00:33:32.599 --> 00:33:37.119 their commanders, and those commands, and those commanders, you know, 472 00:33:37.119 --> 00:33:39.799 they're like, if we help you. You know, if you 473 00:33:39.839 --> 00:33:44.400 fight for us, will help you fight against the Soviet 474 00:33:44.480 --> 00:33:47.960 Union and get your independence. If not, you're going to die. 475 00:33:48.039 --> 00:33:50.160 So they weren't really given much. 476 00:33:50.000 --> 00:33:51.720 About as I say that. Like I said, I didn't 477 00:33:51.720 --> 00:33:54.759 want that to sound inflammatory, because especially if it's against 478 00:33:54.839 --> 00:33:57.319 a group who were pressed into service by the Red 479 00:33:57.640 --> 00:34:01.200 Communist Army, then they get capt by the Nazis, like, oh, look, 480 00:34:01.200 --> 00:34:03.200 if y'all are down with killing Russian, so are we. 481 00:34:03.480 --> 00:34:05.359 Like I ain't nothing for me to swap a uniform 482 00:34:05.400 --> 00:34:07.880 and fight for you. But that does not mean that 483 00:34:07.920 --> 00:34:11.199 they hailed true to any kind of Nazi ideologies or 484 00:34:11.239 --> 00:34:13.360 anything of the sort. But like you said, this came 485 00:34:13.360 --> 00:34:15.559 from West Turkestan, not where you're from. 486 00:34:16.039 --> 00:34:21.000 Yeah, gotcha ours we were under you know, these Chinese 487 00:34:21.039 --> 00:34:25.519 warlord and the Russian the Soviets were you know, very 488 00:34:25.559 --> 00:34:29.400 hesitant to get us involved because they thought that we 489 00:34:29.440 --> 00:34:31.639 would instigate internal rebellions. 490 00:34:31.800 --> 00:34:32.159 Yeah. 491 00:34:32.280 --> 00:34:35.960 So coming back to nineteen forty seven, after this was 492 00:34:36.000 --> 00:34:38.880 in December of nineteen forty seven, So after failing to 493 00:34:38.960 --> 00:34:45.840 secure you know, the already promised autonomy which the KMT 494 00:34:46.119 --> 00:34:52.480 used to actually subvert our independence, our leaders of the 495 00:34:52.519 --> 00:34:56.880 East Pakistan Republic. They returned back to East Pakistan, they 496 00:34:57.239 --> 00:35:02.400 withdrew from the coalition government announced it and stated that 497 00:35:02.440 --> 00:35:06.400 they were going to continue pursuing the completely liberation of 498 00:35:06.440 --> 00:35:12.400 East Turkistan. And at that time, though the Soviet Union 499 00:35:12.519 --> 00:35:17.280 began to pull back all of the large scale military 500 00:35:17.280 --> 00:35:21.360 hardware that it had provided us, and much of that hardware, 501 00:35:21.480 --> 00:35:24.480 in fact, all of it, we actually paid for it 502 00:35:24.559 --> 00:35:26.599 in gold. So it's not like the Soviet you know, 503 00:35:26.639 --> 00:35:30.239 it was like here, here's some you know, hardware, here's 504 00:35:30.280 --> 00:35:33.440 some weapons, go, you know, fight to Chinese. Now we 505 00:35:33.599 --> 00:35:38.760 actually paid for it in gold, in uranium, in hundreds 506 00:35:38.760 --> 00:35:42.559 of thousands of cattle and sheep in exchange for the 507 00:35:42.880 --> 00:35:43.880 for those weapons. 508 00:35:44.119 --> 00:35:46.639 I was gonna say too, is this a relatively fertile 509 00:35:46.679 --> 00:35:47.760 farming area? 510 00:35:48.599 --> 00:35:52.079 So the northwest of East Takistan, north of East Turkistan 511 00:35:52.280 --> 00:35:56.679 is Yeah, it's grasslands, agricultural and herding. 512 00:35:57.320 --> 00:35:59.119 See that might be another reason why China didn't let 513 00:35:59.159 --> 00:36:01.880 it go, because China people are starving, so if they 514 00:36:01.920 --> 00:36:04.159 have some sort of a bread basket somewhere, they're going 515 00:36:04.239 --> 00:36:06.039 to try to do everything they can hold on to it. 516 00:36:06.119 --> 00:36:06.760 That checks out. 517 00:36:07.239 --> 00:36:10.719 Even during that time we were we exported a lot 518 00:36:10.760 --> 00:36:14.239 of cotton to the Soviet Union and to even China. 519 00:36:14.360 --> 00:36:18.760 So we to this day we supply eighty percent of 520 00:36:19.400 --> 00:36:22.199 over eighty percent of China's cotton. That's twenty percent of 521 00:36:22.239 --> 00:36:26.360 global cotton supply. Wow, and our people are being enslaved 522 00:36:26.360 --> 00:36:30.960 nowadays to create this cotton. But back back then, this 523 00:36:31.039 --> 00:36:34.440 is this was the uh, you know, the Soviets they 524 00:36:34.440 --> 00:36:38.000 began withdrawing their advisors and all that, and they wanted 525 00:36:38.039 --> 00:36:42.880 to essentially Mao had Stalin had you know, kind of 526 00:36:43.079 --> 00:36:46.639 started entering into an agreement with Mao that you know, 527 00:36:46.760 --> 00:36:51.920 after you defeat the Chinese Nationalists, I want you to 528 00:36:51.960 --> 00:36:56.440 take over East Turkistan because the British are still going 529 00:36:56.519 --> 00:36:59.920 to try to use this territory to you know, put 530 00:37:00.039 --> 00:37:03.480 Russia on both me and both on China. So this 531 00:37:03.679 --> 00:37:08.840 was Stalin's strategic thinking. And this is not you know, conspiracy, 532 00:37:09.159 --> 00:37:13.039 is there anything in that sense. There's public documentation of this, 533 00:37:13.639 --> 00:37:21.079 recently declassified telegrams between Mao and Stalin discussing this and 534 00:37:21.119 --> 00:37:24.599 so in by the summer of nineteen forty nine, the 535 00:37:24.719 --> 00:37:29.000 Chinese national Communists were you know, becoming victorious in the 536 00:37:29.079 --> 00:37:33.960 Chinese Civil War against the Chinese naturalists. So now there 537 00:37:34.000 --> 00:37:38.320 was only one problem East Ta Kistan. If Mao tried 538 00:37:38.360 --> 00:37:41.920 to invade Easter Kistan, we still have a large military, 539 00:37:42.280 --> 00:37:45.559 we still have a government in place. We were going 540 00:37:45.639 --> 00:37:49.960 to resist. And Stalin was afraid of that, and especially 541 00:37:50.079 --> 00:37:54.960 if this occupation of Easter Ekistan didn't happen immediately, because 542 00:37:55.159 --> 00:37:58.000 Mao's original plan was like I want to take Tibbet 543 00:37:58.199 --> 00:38:01.599 first and then work my way up and you know, 544 00:38:01.880 --> 00:38:05.159 take East Pakistan around nineteen fifty three, nineteen fifty four, 545 00:38:05.599 --> 00:38:09.880 but because Tibet is closer, much closer to China than 546 00:38:10.159 --> 00:38:13.320 East Pakistan. But some was like, no, the British are 547 00:38:13.440 --> 00:38:16.679 right down in India. They're still there. Even though by 548 00:38:16.719 --> 00:38:20.320 that time India and Pakistan had technically gotten their independence, 549 00:38:20.639 --> 00:38:26.280 they still had influence. And again Stalan's biggest fear was 550 00:38:26.320 --> 00:38:32.199 that the British would utilize India Pakistan to you know, 551 00:38:32.239 --> 00:38:35.239 work with us and putting pressure on both the Soviet 552 00:38:35.320 --> 00:38:39.800 Union and Maos communists China. Right, it was like, you 553 00:38:39.880 --> 00:38:42.400 need to invade and occupy East Rakistan first, and you 554 00:38:42.480 --> 00:38:45.800 need to bring the population. There's less than five percent 555 00:38:46.400 --> 00:38:48.480 Chinese living there right now, you need to bring that 556 00:38:48.599 --> 00:38:51.239 up to at least thirty percent if you want to 557 00:38:51.559 --> 00:38:53.000 hold onto this territory. 558 00:38:53.159 --> 00:38:55.480 And so now they have four settlers start making their 559 00:38:55.519 --> 00:38:56.239 way across. 560 00:38:57.000 --> 00:39:03.519 Yeah. So on in August nineteen forty nine, Stalin calls 561 00:39:03.599 --> 00:39:06.679 the remaining leaders of the East tar Kistan, the top 562 00:39:07.079 --> 00:39:09.920 senior leaders of the East tar Kistan Republic, including our 563 00:39:10.000 --> 00:39:17.239 foreign Minister, our Interior Internal Interior, internal affairs minister, our 564 00:39:18.280 --> 00:39:22.239 defense minister, our chief of staff of our armed forces, 565 00:39:22.639 --> 00:39:26.920 and their senior staff to al Maati for a meeting. 566 00:39:27.800 --> 00:39:32.679 And this was apparently in August twenty fourth, nineteen forty nine, 567 00:39:33.239 --> 00:39:38.199 and then allegedly on August twenty seventh, nineteen forty nine, 568 00:39:38.239 --> 00:39:43.320 they're playing somehow a plan going from al Maati supposedly 569 00:39:43.440 --> 00:39:46.519 to Beijing to meet with Mao crashes over Lake balcol 570 00:39:47.079 --> 00:39:50.400 and all of them are declared dead. Of course, they 571 00:39:50.400 --> 00:39:54.440 don't declare that they're dead until months later, until China 572 00:39:54.559 --> 00:40:00.280 actually succeeds in occupying and overthrowing the government the East 573 00:40:00.280 --> 00:40:00.800 tra Kistan. 574 00:40:01.199 --> 00:40:04.519 Those strategic plane crashes, they just they just happened, don't they. 575 00:40:04.719 --> 00:40:09.960 Yeah, except the fund that they no none of thes 576 00:40:10.000 --> 00:40:12.280 we never we don't we don't believe there was an 577 00:40:12.280 --> 00:40:20.760 actual plane crash. In fact, the MKGBM officer who was 578 00:40:20.840 --> 00:40:25.079 responsible for Central Asia uh pavels for the Platov who 579 00:40:25.119 --> 00:40:31.920 actually killed out their assassinations, carried out their assassinations. After 580 00:40:31.960 --> 00:40:34.480 the fall of the Soviet n in nineteen I want 581 00:40:34.480 --> 00:40:37.760 to say ninety two or ninety three, he published a 582 00:40:37.800 --> 00:40:41.760 book called Special Tasks. His name pave Else for the 583 00:40:41.760 --> 00:40:46.199 Platau and in that in his book he wrote that 584 00:40:47.199 --> 00:40:50.559 the Easter Trakistan Republic leaders were indeed called to al 585 00:40:50.639 --> 00:40:55.679 Mahdi and after they were you know, after they refused 586 00:40:55.719 --> 00:40:59.519 to give up, you know, East to sign away and 587 00:40:59.559 --> 00:41:04.039 dissolve eastter Nkistan's independence, they were tortured for three days 588 00:41:05.079 --> 00:41:07.880 and told to you know, issue a declaration, you know 589 00:41:08.480 --> 00:41:13.679 that East Rakistan's independence is forfeited. We're going to join China. 590 00:41:14.199 --> 00:41:17.800 And after they refused, he said, they were executed in 591 00:41:17.920 --> 00:41:21.039 al Madi. Then he says this thing, the plane crash 592 00:41:21.559 --> 00:41:25.159 was staged as a cover up. Sure to cover that up. 593 00:41:25.800 --> 00:41:29.960 So and then furthermore, in twenty fourteen, this is like 594 00:41:30.960 --> 00:41:37.199 almost like sixty plus years since this incident occurred. The 595 00:41:37.199 --> 00:41:43.159 CIA the classifies documents reports from those era and in 596 00:41:43.239 --> 00:41:48.119 the CIA report. It states that the Soviet intelligence carried 597 00:41:48.119 --> 00:41:51.760 out a further assassination of thirty senior military and political 598 00:41:51.800 --> 00:41:55.280 officials of the East tar Kistan Republic in September of 599 00:41:55.400 --> 00:42:00.320 nineteen forty nine to prevent any effective resistance again to 600 00:42:00.360 --> 00:42:05.159 planned Chinese Communist vision. So on October first, nineteen forty nine, 601 00:42:06.400 --> 00:42:09.280 out of all the cabinet members of the East Kistan Republic, 602 00:42:09.320 --> 00:42:12.920 only one survived, the one who didn't attend the meeting 603 00:42:13.119 --> 00:42:17.559 in Almati, and he was the Education minister, and he 604 00:42:17.639 --> 00:42:23.679 was essentially the Soviet Union's agent within our government. So 605 00:42:23.960 --> 00:42:29.880 they sent him to Beijing to meet with Mao, and 606 00:42:29.960 --> 00:42:33.079 on October first, nineteen forty nine, the Chinese Communists declared 607 00:42:33.079 --> 00:42:36.599 the People's Republic of China. Then eleven days later, on 608 00:42:36.599 --> 00:42:40.199 October twelfth, nineteen forty nine, they started invading eastter Ta Kistan, 609 00:42:41.119 --> 00:42:45.320 and then Soviet planes started airlifting Chinese troops into East 610 00:42:45.360 --> 00:42:51.719 ya Kistan as well to facilitate the quicker occupation. And 611 00:42:51.800 --> 00:42:56.199 then on December twenty second, nineteen forty nine, the government 612 00:42:56.400 --> 00:43:00.239 of the East tar Kistan Republic was forcibly overthrown and 613 00:43:00.440 --> 00:43:06.239 it's military it's armed forces was incorporated into the PLA's 614 00:43:06.280 --> 00:43:09.159 fifth Army as the fifth Army. 615 00:43:10.800 --> 00:43:15.880 Wow. And so that's pretty much where we stand today. 616 00:43:16.000 --> 00:43:21.239 Yes, so since December twenty second, nineteen forty nine. This December, 617 00:43:21.360 --> 00:43:25.519 like next week or this coming Sunday or next Monday, 618 00:43:25.559 --> 00:43:31.280 will actually mark seventy six years since China officially occupied 619 00:43:31.320 --> 00:43:32.039 these Trakuistan. 620 00:43:32.639 --> 00:43:33.079 Wow. 621 00:43:33.960 --> 00:43:34.719 That's crazy. 622 00:43:34.840 --> 00:43:39.000 That's a very interesting history of how this has happened, 623 00:43:39.079 --> 00:43:41.400 and now it's just been Is there any kind of 624 00:43:41.519 --> 00:43:44.360 rebel forces that are wanting to try to overthrow the 625 00:43:44.400 --> 00:43:48.480 occupation or is there any kind of military that you 626 00:43:48.519 --> 00:43:50.400 guys like you guys are trying to put together or 627 00:43:50.480 --> 00:43:51.880 anything that you guys are trying to do to be 628 00:43:51.920 --> 00:43:54.360 able to get out from underneath them. 629 00:43:54.760 --> 00:44:00.280 At the current moment, unfortunately, we don't have any you know, 630 00:44:00.679 --> 00:44:05.599 armed force that is trying to actually liberate easta Kistan 631 00:44:07.599 --> 00:44:09.000 in a military capacity. 632 00:44:09.239 --> 00:44:12.119 Well, I mean, China rules their people with an iron fist, 633 00:44:12.199 --> 00:44:16.039 and as far as they are concerned, this is China. 634 00:44:16.559 --> 00:44:21.039 So we haven't been able to have any real armed 635 00:44:21.119 --> 00:44:27.760 resistance against China since really the late nineteen nineties, so 636 00:44:29.119 --> 00:44:33.280 initially after the after overthrowing the Independent e' s Tar 637 00:44:33.320 --> 00:44:38.559 Kistan Republic the Chinese government engages in. You know, there 638 00:44:38.639 --> 00:44:40.920 was resistance even though they killed off a lot of 639 00:44:40.960 --> 00:44:46.360 our military and political leaders, that are still resistance by 640 00:44:46.440 --> 00:44:51.440 other leaders and low ranking officers of our military who 641 00:44:51.519 --> 00:44:57.280 refused to accept the Chinese occupation and between the first 642 00:44:58.320 --> 00:45:01.880 five years, during the first five years of occupation, according 643 00:45:01.920 --> 00:45:05.800 to the Chinese government's own state media, from nineteen March 644 00:45:05.840 --> 00:45:10.280 of nineteen fifty four, they announced that the PLA had 645 00:45:10.519 --> 00:45:14.280 since quote liberation because China calls this deliberation of East 646 00:45:14.320 --> 00:45:17.360 tar Kistan or the liberation of Shinjong as they call it. 647 00:45:17.440 --> 00:45:19.400 Of course, that theyally liberated it. 648 00:45:19.519 --> 00:45:21.000 Yeah, the super good guys here. 649 00:45:21.719 --> 00:45:24.960 But in nineteen March of nineteen fifty four, they announced 650 00:45:24.960 --> 00:45:30.320 that they killed one hundred and fifty thousand so called 651 00:45:30.360 --> 00:45:35.960 counter revolutionaries and enemies of the Chinese state or enemies 652 00:45:36.000 --> 00:45:40.679 of China, those who resisted the occupation and then to 653 00:45:40.800 --> 00:45:49.000 solidify its occupation. Because nineteen fifty four marks about five 654 00:45:49.079 --> 00:45:53.079 years since China, you know, started marching in Teast Takistan. 655 00:45:53.639 --> 00:45:59.679 So the education minister you remember from the East Turkistan Republic, 656 00:46:00.039 --> 00:46:03.639 he became the topic governor of East Takistan. That was 657 00:46:03.719 --> 00:46:07.840 the agreement that he made with Mau and in fact, 658 00:46:08.000 --> 00:46:13.239 according to his claims and rumors what he told others, 659 00:46:14.079 --> 00:46:17.679 he had entered into an agreement with Mao to where 660 00:46:17.719 --> 00:46:21.960 the Chinese communists would help develop East Ta Kistan into 661 00:46:22.039 --> 00:46:27.199 a socialist society and then they would withdraw within five years. 662 00:46:27.880 --> 00:46:31.400 And in fact, during those times, in the initial invasion, 663 00:46:32.400 --> 00:46:36.239 the Chinese people, the elder people in our country, remember 664 00:46:36.840 --> 00:46:40.119 seeing the pla, you know, marching with sllions and slogan saying, 665 00:46:40.440 --> 00:46:43.000 you know, we're gonna help, you know, defeat the foreign 666 00:46:43.000 --> 00:46:49.599 imperialist forces here. We're gonna help set up a socialist 667 00:46:49.679 --> 00:46:53.840 society and we will leave. Even in the propaganda videos 668 00:46:53.880 --> 00:46:57.119 from those eras, even in the movies you know that 669 00:46:57.199 --> 00:46:59.960 they made in the nineteen fifties and sixties, they stay 670 00:47:00.119 --> 00:47:02.079 the same thing. You know, this is your land. We're 671 00:47:02.159 --> 00:47:05.920 just here to help you develop it. We will shortly. 672 00:47:06.760 --> 00:47:11.840 How many people how many Chinese people are there living now, like, 673 00:47:11.920 --> 00:47:14.480 how how many have they moved in or have been 674 00:47:14.480 --> 00:47:15.599 there for generations? 675 00:47:15.639 --> 00:47:18.440 Are you guys still holding a least strong or. 676 00:47:18.480 --> 00:47:21.920 Is it more or less like mixed heavily or what's 677 00:47:22.000 --> 00:47:23.559 kind of pockets? 678 00:47:24.239 --> 00:47:28.760 Yeah, it's been heavily colonized, especially the north. So in 679 00:47:28.840 --> 00:47:30.039 nineteen forty nine. 680 00:47:30.000 --> 00:47:32.559 The north where the gold and the uranium are located. 681 00:47:32.800 --> 00:47:37.559 Yeah, yeah, nineteen forty nine, the Chinese there were two 682 00:47:37.599 --> 00:47:41.639 hundred thousand Chinese, and now two hundred thousand Chinese was 683 00:47:41.719 --> 00:47:47.280 one hundred thousand of mouth troops, eighty thousand remnants of 684 00:47:47.320 --> 00:47:51.239 the KMT who folded it into you know, the Chinese 685 00:47:51.280 --> 00:47:55.599 nationalists who were like, rather than you know, fighting you know, 686 00:47:55.719 --> 00:48:01.000 rather than fighting against the Chinese nationalists, communists joined forces 687 00:48:01.039 --> 00:48:04.639 with them, so that that was the Chinese nationalist forces. 688 00:48:04.679 --> 00:48:06.880 So they merged. So that's one hundred and eighty thousand 689 00:48:07.159 --> 00:48:09.599 troops right there, and then there was about twenty thousand 690 00:48:10.039 --> 00:48:14.079 Chinese you know, administrative, civil servants, their families, et cetera. 691 00:48:14.480 --> 00:48:18.760 So less than two hundred thousand Chinese. And in fact, 692 00:48:20.039 --> 00:48:22.880 you know, in the documentation, in the letter that Stalin 693 00:48:22.920 --> 00:48:25.239 had written, he said, there's the Chinese don't even make 694 00:48:25.320 --> 00:48:29.199 up five percent. There's less than five percent Chinese here. However, 695 00:48:29.800 --> 00:48:33.400 it's looking at historical data from that period. The Chinese 696 00:48:33.440 --> 00:48:36.119 didn't even make Actually, the more realistic number was they 697 00:48:36.119 --> 00:48:38.599 didn't even make up two to three percent of the population. 698 00:48:38.679 --> 00:48:42.360 And that's if we include the occupation forces, right, the 699 00:48:42.480 --> 00:48:46.920 sold their families that were there the Wars made up 700 00:48:47.039 --> 00:48:50.280 over ninety percent of the population. So the Oars are 701 00:48:50.440 --> 00:48:54.920 the as I mentioned, the ethnically Turkic people of East Turkistan, 702 00:48:54.960 --> 00:49:00.559 who the non nomadic, the non nomadic Turkic population of 703 00:49:00.599 --> 00:49:04.639 East Trakistan who have actually been living there according to 704 00:49:04.679 --> 00:49:09.760 the latest you know, archaeological and genetic data. Because you 705 00:49:09.840 --> 00:49:13.320 might have heard things in the news reports like oh, 706 00:49:13.519 --> 00:49:17.360 ancient you know, white mummies of ancient China. You might 707 00:49:17.400 --> 00:49:20.920 have seen like that. So those are actually the ancestors 708 00:49:20.960 --> 00:49:21.840 of the Wars. 709 00:49:23.519 --> 00:49:27.239 So it's not a white mummy, that's a a we're 710 00:49:27.400 --> 00:49:30.199 a Muslim that was found in what is now considered 711 00:49:30.440 --> 00:49:33.039 Chinese territory, but it's not actually got you. 712 00:49:34.079 --> 00:49:39.800 So there, the Chinese government actually conducted, along with you know, 713 00:49:39.880 --> 00:49:42.199 partnering with the US and a couple of other governments, 714 00:49:42.400 --> 00:49:47.559 conducted DNA analysis of our population as a whole. So 715 00:49:47.679 --> 00:49:52.679 they got a thousand plus samples from various parts of 716 00:49:52.719 --> 00:49:57.840 East Turkistan and try to analyze our genetic data. And 717 00:49:57.880 --> 00:50:00.320 this was done in two thousand and eight, and so 718 00:50:00.400 --> 00:50:05.159 they found out that the overwhelming majority of our people 719 00:50:05.679 --> 00:50:09.159 were actually our people were made up of two main 720 00:50:09.199 --> 00:50:13.159 ethnic groups. Two main groups. One is the Indo European 721 00:50:13.239 --> 00:50:18.079 population and then the other is Northern Eurasian, which is 722 00:50:18.320 --> 00:50:22.199 the Turkic population. And they said the initial intermixing happened 723 00:50:22.199 --> 00:50:26.320 around anywhere from twenty three hundred to nine hundred years ago. 724 00:50:27.039 --> 00:50:36.760 But the south is predominantly more Indo European and the 725 00:50:36.800 --> 00:50:40.920 waters or our ancestors have apparently been living there since 726 00:50:40.960 --> 00:50:42.800 the end of the Ice Age, so it was like 727 00:50:42.840 --> 00:50:46.159 an isolated population that's been living there since the time 728 00:50:46.199 --> 00:50:48.679 of the end of the Ice Age, according to the 729 00:50:48.760 --> 00:50:51.159 latest data. 730 00:50:51.800 --> 00:50:54.400 So I remember hearing in the news, I feeling maybe 731 00:50:54.480 --> 00:50:58.960 two years ago, maybe even less than that, there was 732 00:50:59.000 --> 00:51:02.840 like a five hundred wiger Muslims beheaded by Buddhist monks 733 00:51:03.800 --> 00:51:06.880 and in China, and I remember hearing this like you 734 00:51:06.920 --> 00:51:10.000 don't typically hear Buddhist monks going on the war path 735 00:51:10.320 --> 00:51:13.000 against anybody for the I mean, at least not in 736 00:51:13.079 --> 00:51:16.920 modern history. But then we heard about them beheading these 737 00:51:16.960 --> 00:51:20.039 these Muslims that were living in China. There were so 738 00:51:20.079 --> 00:51:21.920 many follow up questions that came off of that, like 739 00:51:21.960 --> 00:51:25.039 for one, why is there a Muslim population in China? 740 00:51:25.079 --> 00:51:28.440 I thought that they were very openly non religious as 741 00:51:28.480 --> 00:51:31.920 per the communist rules and things. Do you know more 742 00:51:32.000 --> 00:51:34.320 about the backstory of that incident? 743 00:51:35.199 --> 00:51:42.559 Actually, I think you're confusing the Rhinia who Rhinia Muslims 744 00:51:42.599 --> 00:51:47.400 in Myanmar or Burma, And that was actually the Burmese 745 00:51:47.519 --> 00:51:50.280 monks who carried that out against the Rhia. 746 00:51:50.559 --> 00:51:52.719 So they do have a genocide going on against the 747 00:51:52.760 --> 00:51:55.760 Rhenia as well. But I swore it was Wigers in China. 748 00:51:55.880 --> 00:51:57.599 Am I am I completely off base. 749 00:51:57.440 --> 00:52:00.079 Here, No, No, it's it's this is not about that, 750 00:52:00.719 --> 00:52:05.639 but ours is. You know, China's committing genocide as well, 751 00:52:07.159 --> 00:52:12.000 in a much more sophisticated, much more brutal faction. And 752 00:52:12.079 --> 00:52:16.400 so I'll come to that. So in nineteen fifty five 753 00:52:16.599 --> 00:52:22.679 for to suppress our you know, when Sin was like hey, 754 00:52:23.360 --> 00:52:26.400 as easy as his name, the interior, the education minister. 755 00:52:26.880 --> 00:52:30.000 So it's a time to you know, pack up and go. 756 00:52:30.800 --> 00:52:36.039 So Mao installed and created the Shinjong Production construction course. 757 00:52:36.079 --> 00:52:40.000 So it's a Chinese paramilitary force. The best comparison of 758 00:52:40.039 --> 00:52:42.840 this would be like comparing it to the Dutch East 759 00:52:42.920 --> 00:52:47.119 India Company. So it doesn't answer to the autonomous region. 760 00:52:47.840 --> 00:52:52.800 It's completely independent from the local government. It answers directly 761 00:52:53.119 --> 00:52:57.679 to Beijing, and its sole purpose is to colonize Ease 762 00:52:57.760 --> 00:53:03.840 Cirkistan and to suppress any descent, any descent. So in 763 00:53:03.920 --> 00:53:07.519 nineteen fifty five, China mouth was like, you know what, 764 00:53:07.800 --> 00:53:11.719 I'll give you guys, autonomy, and the Chinese wanted to 765 00:53:11.840 --> 00:53:15.239 call easter Kistan. They're like, because we're like, stop calling this, 766 00:53:15.559 --> 00:53:19.440 you know Shinjong. You know, we don't. We want our 767 00:53:19.480 --> 00:53:22.440 independence back. So males like, I'll give you autonomy, we'll 768 00:53:22.480 --> 00:53:26.519 call you the Shinjong Autonomous Region. So again that education minister, 769 00:53:26.559 --> 00:53:32.039 who's our the the facto governor, even though he's a puppet, 770 00:53:32.719 --> 00:53:35.760 he protested against that, and he said, autonomy is not 771 00:53:35.840 --> 00:53:40.320 given to mountains or rivers. Autonomy is given to a people, 772 00:53:41.519 --> 00:53:45.480 So you need to give autonomy to our people. Call 773 00:53:45.519 --> 00:53:50.960 it lot autonomous region. Remove Shinjong. Mao refused to remove 774 00:53:50.960 --> 00:53:54.840 the Shinjong term, and you know, continued and said, okay, 775 00:53:54.920 --> 00:54:01.199 I'll call it the Shinjong Autonomous Region. Despite that, fifty 776 00:54:01.280 --> 00:54:04.719 one senior leaders of the so called autonomous region, senior 777 00:54:04.800 --> 00:54:07.199 leaders as in our own people initially we had some 778 00:54:07.599 --> 00:54:11.440 fake autonomy like that autonomy and paper. We still our 779 00:54:11.440 --> 00:54:16.599 officials still had positions, right, senior positions. So fifty one officials. 780 00:54:17.199 --> 00:54:20.800 They sent a joint letter along with the delegation to 781 00:54:20.880 --> 00:54:26.679 Beijing rejecting the unilateral autonomy in nineteen fifty seven, stating that, 782 00:54:26.760 --> 00:54:31.159 you know, autonomy is not working out for us. We're 783 00:54:31.320 --> 00:54:36.639 completely different people. We're not Chinese. You know. You guys 784 00:54:36.679 --> 00:54:40.079 are you know, abusing this autonomy to try to colonize 785 00:54:40.119 --> 00:54:44.079 our plan. Your forces are engaging in massacres of our people. 786 00:54:44.639 --> 00:54:48.280 This is not acceptable. We want to restore our independent 787 00:54:48.360 --> 00:54:52.679 East aar Kistan Republic. Right, And so Joe and Lai 788 00:54:52.760 --> 00:54:57.599 who is the essentially the you know premier at the time, 789 00:54:57.679 --> 00:55:01.599 like the prime minister, you could say, He's like, yeah, 790 00:55:01.639 --> 00:55:03.840 I'll discuss this with now, because that's who they were 791 00:55:03.880 --> 00:55:07.239 able to meet. You just go back on and I'll 792 00:55:07.239 --> 00:55:09.079 follow up with you. When they came back, they were 793 00:55:09.119 --> 00:55:11.719 all perched when they came back to East Turkistan. 794 00:55:12.360 --> 00:55:12.679 Wow. 795 00:55:12.760 --> 00:55:18.519 Then during the nineteen sixties the Sign of Soviets split happened, 796 00:55:18.559 --> 00:55:23.920 So the Soviet Union and China, you know, they split, 797 00:55:24.440 --> 00:55:29.159 the Communists China they split in their alliance. It was 798 00:55:29.199 --> 00:55:33.280 bound to happen, and they began competing against one another 799 00:55:34.159 --> 00:55:40.480 and the Soviet Union. Our leaders at that time were 800 00:55:41.440 --> 00:55:44.519 remnants of you know, the survivor and leadership of the 801 00:55:44.559 --> 00:55:50.719 East Tarkistan Republic, including military leadership who still held positions 802 00:55:50.760 --> 00:55:55.480 as you know, high senior level positions in the Autonomous government, 803 00:55:56.119 --> 00:56:01.719 the Autonomous region government. They started to you know, take 804 00:56:01.760 --> 00:56:06.760 advantage of this to use the pretext of a pending 805 00:56:06.920 --> 00:56:12.320 Soviet invasion or an impending Soviet invasion to literally arm 806 00:56:12.719 --> 00:56:20.480 our entire population. So officially, the Education Minister was the 807 00:56:20.599 --> 00:56:26.760 chairman of our government. The vice chairman was the political 808 00:56:28.360 --> 00:56:31.480 the general of the Political Affairs Department of the East 809 00:56:31.480 --> 00:56:37.480 Trakistan Republic's National Army vice chairman, and he was also 810 00:56:38.159 --> 00:56:42.480 the deputy commander of the so called Shinjog Military District, 811 00:56:43.079 --> 00:56:46.960 which is responsible for all PLA forces in East pa Kistan. So, 812 00:56:47.360 --> 00:56:49.960 using the fear of that the Soviets are going to 813 00:56:50.000 --> 00:56:53.199 invade us because they're a kind of a couple of 814 00:56:53.199 --> 00:56:57.119 border classes happened. They were able to arm our population. 815 00:56:58.679 --> 00:57:02.760 And I remember you, my grand my parents, my grandparents 816 00:57:02.800 --> 00:57:07.119 talking about this, how they had an opportunity but This 817 00:57:07.280 --> 00:57:10.280 is during the heart of the Cultural revolution. Everyone is 818 00:57:10.320 --> 00:57:15.559 literally starving. You know, people are dying from you know, 819 00:57:15.719 --> 00:57:19.480 man made fan and by maw right. So and because 820 00:57:19.519 --> 00:57:23.320 they can't openly stay oh, you know, start fighting against 821 00:57:23.400 --> 00:57:26.760 you know, the Chinese invaders. They use code words like, 822 00:57:27.360 --> 00:57:31.800 you know, free yourselves from the you know, the the 823 00:57:32.039 --> 00:57:37.199 the pigs that have infested your lands. Free yourselves from 824 00:57:37.239 --> 00:57:42.239 those who are enslaving you. You know, shoot and kill, 825 00:57:42.480 --> 00:57:45.960 kill the dogs and the pigs. And our people literally 826 00:57:46.000 --> 00:57:50.679 took that literally instead of understanding the real meaning. And 827 00:57:50.719 --> 00:57:57.599 then by nineteen sixty nine, the Easter Exton People's Revolutionary Party, 828 00:57:57.639 --> 00:58:02.119 which is it was a Marxist part party created by 829 00:58:03.159 --> 00:58:08.039 you know, our members of our government to take advantage 830 00:58:08.039 --> 00:58:10.840 of that, to try to solicit Soviet support, but also 831 00:58:10.960 --> 00:58:13.360 to push back against, you know, because China is a 832 00:58:13.360 --> 00:58:16.639 communist state. And they're like, oh, we're not you know, 833 00:58:16.760 --> 00:58:21.239 we're not imperialists. We're not you know, colonialists. We came 834 00:58:21.280 --> 00:58:23.559 to liberate you. We're like, okay, we're in a communist 835 00:58:23.880 --> 00:58:28.920 Marxist party too. What you're doing is textbook imperialism and colonialism, 836 00:58:29.280 --> 00:58:32.039 and we are here to liberate our people from your 837 00:58:32.119 --> 00:58:37.039 Chinese colonialism and imperialism, so they were preparing for a 838 00:58:37.119 --> 00:58:43.440 large skill armed uprising, and unfortunately Chinese intelligence networks, spies 839 00:58:44.320 --> 00:58:49.280 and informant within our own people led to this organization 840 00:58:49.480 --> 00:58:55.920 being you know, uncovered by the Chinese intelligence and then 841 00:58:58.079 --> 00:59:01.960 the leader in nineteen of nineteen seventy, it came crashing 842 00:59:02.000 --> 00:59:08.400 after a failed, you know, premature attempt at an armed uprising, 843 00:59:08.440 --> 00:59:10.519 even though it's supposed to be delayed a little bit 844 00:59:11.480 --> 00:59:15.719 because of Chinese intelligence, became premature, and so they crushed 845 00:59:16.039 --> 00:59:21.079 one faction or one cell of the organization. And then 846 00:59:21.119 --> 00:59:24.679 in May of nineteen seventy, the Chinese intelligence had learned 847 00:59:24.719 --> 00:59:27.760 that it was indeed the vice chairman of the so 848 00:59:27.840 --> 00:59:32.840 called we Were Autonomous Region, who was also the deputy 849 00:59:32.840 --> 00:59:37.239 commander of the military district. He was in the head 850 00:59:37.360 --> 00:59:42.920 of this organization. So they arrested him and they executed 851 00:59:43.039 --> 00:59:47.800 him in a military hospital after torturing him, and then 852 00:59:47.840 --> 00:59:55.480 with that the entire organization dissolved. Then there was periodic resistance, 853 00:59:55.960 --> 01:00:02.960 you know, mostly protests and some small scale you know, 854 01:00:03.800 --> 01:00:09.239 armed activities against Chinese PLA forces throughout the nineteen seventies. 855 01:00:10.199 --> 01:00:13.280 In the nineteen eighties, it was actually, a lot of 856 01:00:13.280 --> 01:00:16.800 people have been person In nineteen seventies, a lot of 857 01:00:16.800 --> 01:00:19.800 people have been in prison. So by the nineteen eighties, 858 01:00:20.079 --> 01:00:22.239 some of these people are coming out of In the 859 01:00:22.280 --> 01:00:24.199 sixties and seventies, a lot of people had been in prison. 860 01:00:24.239 --> 01:00:27.000 So by the nineteen eighties, some of these people are 861 01:00:27.039 --> 01:00:30.199 coming out of prison. So one of those people is 862 01:00:30.239 --> 01:00:34.800 like my own, my father's uncle. He had he had 863 01:00:34.840 --> 01:00:38.800 been arrested in the sixties in trying to create too, 864 01:00:40.159 --> 01:00:45.639 in trying to mount an armed uprising against the PLA, 865 01:00:46.719 --> 01:00:49.400 And so my father never got to know his uncle 866 01:00:49.440 --> 01:00:53.039 until he came out of prison. So these people that 867 01:00:53.079 --> 01:00:55.920 are suddenly coming out of prison, they began teaching the 868 01:00:55.960 --> 01:00:59.559 younger generation. So, you know, we used to have a country, 869 01:00:59.599 --> 01:01:02.639 we used to be independent. This is what happened, this 870 01:01:02.679 --> 01:01:05.400 is why we were in prison. And so they got 871 01:01:05.440 --> 01:01:08.079 all excited. You had a bunch of teenagers trying to 872 01:01:08.199 --> 01:01:12.760 engage in our armed uprisings in the eighties. And you know, 873 01:01:13.639 --> 01:01:17.480 like even if you look at Chinese intelligence reports, most 874 01:01:17.519 --> 01:01:25.000 of the mass protests and attacks against Chinese military compounds 875 01:01:25.280 --> 01:01:30.119 were carried out by teenagers as young as twelve years old. 876 01:01:30.480 --> 01:01:35.800 Up to seventeen eighteen. My own my own father, he 877 01:01:35.880 --> 01:01:41.280 got he got kicked out of school because he he 878 01:01:41.360 --> 01:01:45.000 went around town in our hometown and putting up you know, 879 01:01:46.159 --> 01:01:49.320 flyers at night staying you know, Chinese invaders get out 880 01:01:49.320 --> 01:01:53.039 of my country. So he eventually got caught and he 881 01:01:53.079 --> 01:01:58.840 got expelled from the school in the ninth grade. So 882 01:01:59.519 --> 01:02:04.599 that was as far as his education went. Then the 883 01:02:04.639 --> 01:02:08.400 Soviet Union nineteen ninety, the Soviet Union began to you 884 01:02:08.400 --> 01:02:13.239 know shake and splinter. The last actual armed uprising in 885 01:02:13.280 --> 01:02:17.480 Eastern Kistan. Major armed uprising occurred in April fifth of 886 01:02:17.559 --> 01:02:24.000 nineteen ninety and actually they were planning since the nineteen eighties. 887 01:02:25.239 --> 01:02:29.559 Since late nineteen eighty eight, an organization was being formed 888 01:02:29.599 --> 01:02:34.079 to called the Eastern Kistan Liberation Organization, modeled off of 889 01:02:34.119 --> 01:02:39.679 the original Eastern Kistan Liberation Organization of nineteen forty three, 890 01:02:39.719 --> 01:02:42.800 which led on to create the second Eastern Kistan Republic, 891 01:02:43.000 --> 01:02:45.960 and its goal was to you know, restore the independent 892 01:02:45.960 --> 01:02:50.400 Eastern Kistan Republic for the third time. But again Chinese 893 01:02:51.280 --> 01:02:56.400 intelligence began to use its informants and they figured that 894 01:02:56.400 --> 01:03:02.880 out by nineteen eighty nine, nineteen ninety, and so they 895 01:03:02.920 --> 01:03:07.880 also had to prematurely organize, you know something, even though 896 01:03:07.920 --> 01:03:13.039 their preparation wasn't ready. So it started off as a 897 01:03:13.559 --> 01:03:15.360 you know, they're like, let's at least try to do 898 01:03:15.400 --> 01:03:20.480 this peacefully. Let's try to organize a peaceful demonstration. See 899 01:03:20.559 --> 01:03:24.239 see how they respond, because we don't want the international 900 01:03:24.280 --> 01:03:26.679 community to, you know, think that, oh, we're just out 901 01:03:26.679 --> 01:03:30.440 here to do something crazy. See, let's let's show the 902 01:03:30.440 --> 01:03:33.960 world that the true nature of China. So they organized 903 01:03:33.960 --> 01:03:41.760 the peaceful demonstration against the mass sterilizations and abortions in 904 01:03:42.119 --> 01:03:44.800 of our of our women. There were two hundred plus 905 01:03:44.880 --> 01:03:48.199 abortions in one township and in Bodern and so they 906 01:03:48.320 --> 01:03:52.159 organized a demonstration and. 907 01:03:51.559 --> 01:03:56.400 Those forced abortions, correct abortions. Yeah, and this is this 908 01:03:56.440 --> 01:03:59.199 is before China's one child policy took effect. 909 01:03:59.239 --> 01:04:04.599 Correct, China's one child policy was taking effect in really 910 01:04:04.639 --> 01:04:08.000 around the same time. Nineteen eighty nine is when they 911 01:04:08.079 --> 01:04:10.360 started implementing the one child policy. 912 01:04:10.599 --> 01:04:13.599 So that's the law with your people as well. They 913 01:04:13.960 --> 01:04:15.440 implemented across the whole board. 914 01:04:15.519 --> 01:04:19.639 Okay, yeah, now they've relaxed for the Chinese, but for 915 01:04:19.800 --> 01:04:22.559 us it's now it's like a zero child policy. And 916 01:04:22.760 --> 01:04:27.039 I'll get into that in a little bit. Wow, they've 917 01:04:27.079 --> 01:04:33.119 protested against the forest abortions at the local township, and China, 918 01:04:33.159 --> 01:04:36.039 of course, how we always know it, they respond with 919 01:04:36.679 --> 01:04:40.599 brutal force, start shooting, and so they knew this was 920 01:04:40.599 --> 01:04:43.079 going to happen. So they're like, okay, now we have 921 01:04:43.159 --> 01:04:48.679 the justification to engage and open armed uprising. So they 922 01:04:49.320 --> 01:04:54.760 took over the government compound and then in response, the 923 01:04:54.880 --> 01:04:59.360 Chinese government sent over twenty thousand troops. Even though this 924 01:04:59.719 --> 01:05:04.000 entire the township, like the five towns around it combined 925 01:05:04.039 --> 01:05:07.480 population is about ten fifteen thousand people, so they used 926 01:05:07.519 --> 01:05:11.960 overwhelming force. They sent air strikes because initially they sent 927 01:05:12.000 --> 01:05:17.239 the convoy of people's armed police forces of them and 928 01:05:17.519 --> 01:05:21.320 they got ambushed and their weapons were seized by our forces. 929 01:05:21.760 --> 01:05:27.440 Good the rebel. Then they realized that if they got 930 01:05:27.480 --> 01:05:31.360 into a you know physical land in you know, firefight, 931 01:05:31.400 --> 01:05:35.320 they were going to lose. So they resorted to helicopter 932 01:05:35.400 --> 01:05:40.679 gunship attacks, bomb air, aerial bombardment, and artillery strikes and 933 01:05:40.880 --> 01:05:44.639 you know, kill thousands of people. Officially, China claims that 934 01:05:45.239 --> 01:05:48.400 only you know, several dozen people died, but. 935 01:05:50.000 --> 01:05:52.199 Mostly peaceful air bomb raids. 936 01:05:52.280 --> 01:05:55.920 Yeah, yeah, yeah, Western humanitarian. 937 01:05:55.960 --> 01:05:58.840 Right, They were dropping humanitarian aid. Oh yeah, you could 938 01:05:58.840 --> 01:06:01.119 already just see how that headline was going to read. 939 01:06:01.199 --> 01:06:01.639 No doubt. 940 01:06:02.440 --> 01:06:08.199 Western sources from that era at that time they estimated 941 01:06:08.199 --> 01:06:11.360 that around sixteen hundred at least sixteen hundred people were killed. 942 01:06:12.679 --> 01:06:18.320 The Chinese government immediately after that, within several days after this, 943 01:06:18.400 --> 01:06:21.119 because they crushed it went from on from April fifth 944 01:06:21.119 --> 01:06:23.960 to April tenth. They crushed it on April tenth, then 945 01:06:24.000 --> 01:06:28.360 immediately they began to they were by the end of 946 01:06:28.400 --> 01:06:31.559 April tenth, they claimed that they arrested seventy six seventy 947 01:06:31.599 --> 01:06:38.559 six hundred people connected to this uprising because while that 948 01:06:38.639 --> 01:06:41.400 uprorising was happening, people in other parts of the country 949 01:06:41.559 --> 01:06:44.840 heard about it, and they were trying to engage in 950 01:06:44.920 --> 01:06:48.000 mass protests in support of the uprising. So that was 951 01:06:48.000 --> 01:06:49.519 the last major uprising. 952 01:06:49.960 --> 01:06:52.559 All of that group, how many of them were purged. 953 01:06:53.239 --> 01:06:56.000 I mean essentially all of them died. There was like 954 01:06:56.000 --> 01:07:02.000 two hundred two hundred fighters and they all died in 955 01:07:02.519 --> 01:07:03.519 that conflict. 956 01:07:04.199 --> 01:07:06.039 For me, have the prisoners they took you said seventy 957 01:07:06.079 --> 01:07:07.719 six hundred prisoners. 958 01:07:07.519 --> 01:07:10.320 Yeah, they took seventy six the rusted seventy six hundred 959 01:07:11.000 --> 01:07:19.039 so called separatists from April to July nineteen ninety and 960 01:07:19.079 --> 01:07:22.840 then the next year. By the end of that year, 961 01:07:23.400 --> 01:07:27.800 the Soviet Union began to fall. So this gave even 962 01:07:27.880 --> 01:07:32.000 more because the the independence of the western former West 963 01:07:32.000 --> 01:07:36.599 Trakistan inspired hope for our people and many we have 964 01:07:36.639 --> 01:07:42.280 a large daspro there as well in Central Asia, Kazakhstan, Krakistan, Pakistan, 965 01:07:42.360 --> 01:07:47.880 so forth. So this led to you know, cooperation and 966 01:07:47.960 --> 01:07:51.840 coordination between our people in Daspor and those in East Turkistan, 967 01:07:52.679 --> 01:07:57.840 and we began to you know, advocate for independent independence 968 01:07:58.360 --> 01:08:03.559 openly on the international stage, but explicitly making it clear 969 01:08:03.599 --> 01:08:06.840 that you know, our struggle is solely about national liberation 970 01:08:07.559 --> 01:08:10.559 and you know it's not about you know, extremism or 971 01:08:10.599 --> 01:08:13.320 anything like that. But China was going to start propagating, 972 01:08:13.440 --> 01:08:18.279 in fact propagate that until after. So by nineteen ninety six, 973 01:08:19.359 --> 01:08:25.319 several mass demonstrations occurred across the East tra Kastan. More 974 01:08:25.359 --> 01:08:28.439 and more people started calling for an independent Eace Turkistan. 975 01:08:28.920 --> 01:08:32.439 Large scale acts of civil disobedience began to occur, and 976 01:08:32.479 --> 01:08:35.920 then there were you know, small raids and clashes with 977 01:08:36.640 --> 01:08:42.439 Chinese security forces and Weiger militants in the East Takistan 978 01:08:42.439 --> 01:08:47.439 and along the Kyrgyzstan Kazakhstan border of East Traakistan. So 979 01:08:47.760 --> 01:08:52.479 in response to this, China's uh polt Buro Standing Committee, 980 01:08:52.479 --> 01:08:56.880 the Central Committee, the top seven members of the of 981 01:08:56.920 --> 01:08:59.640 the of the you know, top seven members of the 982 01:08:59.680 --> 01:09:03.279 cc HE they held the top secret meeting in March 983 01:09:04.880 --> 01:09:09.800 sixteenth of nineteen ninety six in Bejing on stability maintenance 984 01:09:10.439 --> 01:09:16.479 in Eastern Kistan, and their Chinese Premier President or the 985 01:09:16.520 --> 01:09:19.399 head of the CCP, Jngsan Men at the time, he 986 01:09:19.560 --> 01:09:25.279 highlighted that national separatism was the biggest threat to you know, 987 01:09:25.439 --> 01:09:29.359 Chinese control over Eastern Kistan and the CCP's control over 988 01:09:29.439 --> 01:09:34.039 China as a whole. They accused in the document, they 989 01:09:34.079 --> 01:09:39.920 accused the US counter revolutionary forces led by the United 990 01:09:39.920 --> 01:09:47.520 States of supporting separatists to engage in sabotage activities against China. 991 01:09:47.600 --> 01:09:53.600 So that was that they the ten point directive to 992 01:09:53.880 --> 01:09:58.560 crush our independence movement, and that tin point Directive, which 993 01:09:58.600 --> 01:10:03.119 is called Document number seven of nineteen ninety six, included 994 01:10:03.159 --> 01:10:08.359 everything from boosting, you know, ramping up Chinese military forces 995 01:10:08.439 --> 01:10:13.520 in East Tarkistan, you know, settling more Chinese colonists into 996 01:10:13.560 --> 01:10:23.079 East t ra Kistan, to engaging in propaganda infiltration, winning 997 01:10:23.119 --> 01:10:28.079 over most of our diaspora organizations to China's side, and 998 01:10:28.119 --> 01:10:31.920 then marginalizing and eliminating those who refused to give up 999 01:10:31.920 --> 01:10:37.279 on independence. To using all means this is the most important. 1000 01:10:37.279 --> 01:10:41.479 Moon used all means necessary to prevent the internationalization of 1001 01:10:41.520 --> 01:10:42.840 the East Tarkistan problem. 1002 01:10:43.039 --> 01:10:44.680 Yeah, I see right here, I'll pulled it up. So 1003 01:10:44.800 --> 01:10:48.279 Document number seven in nineteen ninety six refers to a 1004 01:10:48.319 --> 01:10:52.000 top secret directive issued by the Standing Committee of the 1005 01:10:52.199 --> 01:10:56.119 Pollard Burrow of Chinese Communist Party CCP that outlined a 1006 01:10:56.159 --> 01:11:00.079 comprehensive plan for intensified security and control measures in the 1007 01:11:00.520 --> 01:11:06.199 jing Chan region. Which is like you're saying that's East Turkistan. Wow, 1008 01:11:07.720 --> 01:11:09.720 that is this is insane. Like this isn't like some 1009 01:11:09.760 --> 01:11:13.199 sort of a thing that's like super you know, this 1010 01:11:13.279 --> 01:11:15.800 isn't like a conspiratorial thing that like you don't really 1011 01:11:15.880 --> 01:11:17.680 know much about. Like this is this is something that's 1012 01:11:17.800 --> 01:11:21.319 very open source. At this point. It talks about intensified 1013 01:11:21.359 --> 01:11:26.039 religious controls. Interesting it says the document mandata that the 1014 01:11:26.600 --> 01:11:31.159 shutdown of unauthorized religious schools and quote unquote underground mosques 1015 01:11:31.640 --> 01:11:35.800 and increased state administration over all religious communities and activities 1016 01:11:35.800 --> 01:11:39.279 to ensure they remained independent of foreign control. And by 1017 01:11:39.319 --> 01:11:45.000 foreign they mean organic East Turkestan, but by China's definition 1018 01:11:45.079 --> 01:11:48.880 that would be foreign Okay. Reinforcement of security. It called 1019 01:11:48.920 --> 01:11:53.319 for wholesale reinforcement of military and security preparedness, including strengthening 1020 01:11:53.359 --> 01:11:57.479 public safety, national security, court and judicial branches to effectively 1021 01:11:57.600 --> 01:12:02.920 fight separatism and quote unquote sabatine opportunities the quote unquote 1022 01:12:02.920 --> 01:12:06.680 Strike Hard campaign. The directive coincided with the launch of 1023 01:12:06.680 --> 01:12:10.600 a severe Strike Hard or ya Da or Yanda campaign 1024 01:12:10.640 --> 01:12:14.039 across China in April nineteen ninety six, which was specifically 1025 01:12:14.119 --> 01:12:19.960 extended to jin Chan to target ethnic splittists and illegal 1026 01:12:20.079 --> 01:12:25.159 religious forces wow. This campaign resulted in thousands of arrests 1027 01:12:25.159 --> 01:12:30.399 and executions and then the transitional repression. The policy also 1028 01:12:30.399 --> 01:12:34.199 included directives to strengthen investigation and study outside the border 1029 01:12:34.640 --> 01:12:38.439 to prevent outside separatist forces from making these so called 1030 01:12:38.840 --> 01:12:43.119 Eastern Turkestan problem international. This has been linked to the 1031 01:12:43.199 --> 01:12:48.119 long term strategy of transitional repression against the weaker diaspora. Again, 1032 01:12:48.159 --> 01:12:50.640 this is all open source. This is this is something 1033 01:12:50.680 --> 01:12:52.399 that any of our listeners could go and look up 1034 01:12:52.439 --> 01:12:55.560 for themselves. This isn't you know, it's some sort of 1035 01:12:55.600 --> 01:12:58.840 a fringe theory. This is by their own emission exactly 1036 01:12:58.880 --> 01:12:59.560 what they were doing. 1037 01:13:01.640 --> 01:13:07.279 Yeah, So that is essentially laid down the foundation or 1038 01:13:07.279 --> 01:13:11.079 the blueprint for the genocidal policies that were to follow. 1039 01:13:11.680 --> 01:13:15.319 So what if you from that? What is China's biggest fear? 1040 01:13:16.279 --> 01:13:20.479 National separatism? Another means our independence movement, right, and what 1041 01:13:20.560 --> 01:13:26.640 is worried about our independence movement becoming recognized and supported internationally. 1042 01:13:27.960 --> 01:13:33.880 So it specifically called for, you know, using propaganda, infiltration 1043 01:13:34.880 --> 01:13:39.880 and killings to to undermine it. So this is you know, 1044 01:13:40.119 --> 01:13:43.600 reported in nineteen ninety six. This is what the puppet 1045 01:13:43.640 --> 01:13:48.560 chairman of the Autonomous Region at that time stated. So 1046 01:13:48.600 --> 01:13:52.680 what does China do? China also co opts governments, not 1047 01:13:52.800 --> 01:13:56.640 just our diaspora community, but governments, especially in neighboring Central 1048 01:13:56.680 --> 01:14:01.039 Asia like Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, as well as you know, Turkey. 1049 01:14:01.119 --> 01:14:05.720 Because all of these countries are ethnically Turkic, we have 1050 01:14:05.760 --> 01:14:11.079 a large daspara community. There are the Asper independence organizations, 1051 01:14:11.119 --> 01:14:14.039 many of them are based in these countries, So China 1052 01:14:14.159 --> 01:14:16.399 co ops them and you might have heard something called 1053 01:14:16.399 --> 01:14:22.920 the Shanghai Cooperation Organization. This was after Document number seven. 1054 01:14:23.119 --> 01:14:26.800 This is when China sets up the Shanghai Cooperation Organization 1055 01:14:26.960 --> 01:14:32.119 initially known as the Shanghai Five Organization, specifically with the 1056 01:14:32.199 --> 01:14:35.640 intent to fight against the three evils of so called 1057 01:14:35.640 --> 01:14:41.399 separatism extremism, and then they later added terrorism after you know, 1058 01:14:41.520 --> 01:14:42.760 nine to eleven. 1059 01:14:43.079 --> 01:14:46.279 Of course, if it's a if it's an inherently Muslim area, 1060 01:14:46.359 --> 01:14:48.880 that terrorism work can get thrown on there so easily 1061 01:14:49.039 --> 01:14:51.760 to make it seem however they want in their media. 1062 01:14:53.279 --> 01:14:56.520 So you like, you'll see articles from nineteen ninety six, 1063 01:14:56.720 --> 01:15:00.880 ninety seven, ninety eight, who was like some articles are 1064 01:15:00.920 --> 01:15:07.279 titled like ancient Warriors who defeated Alexander the Great Fields, 1065 01:15:07.399 --> 01:15:15.199 China's cosh or wigers demand their independence, you know, vigers 1066 01:15:15.239 --> 01:15:19.479 are you know, refusing to suffer the fate of the Tibetans, 1067 01:15:19.840 --> 01:15:25.680 stuff like that, headlines, yeah, highlighting our independence movement. And 1068 01:15:27.000 --> 01:15:31.600 at that time, China began to after Document number seven, 1069 01:15:31.720 --> 01:15:37.399 especially starting in nineteen ninety seven, China began to state that, oh, 1070 01:15:37.439 --> 01:15:39.880 this is not an independence movement, this is a global 1071 01:15:39.960 --> 01:15:44.680 jihadist movement. This is you know, they're these these weaker 1072 01:15:44.760 --> 01:15:49.479 separatists are linked to global jihadis like al Qaeda. 1073 01:15:50.079 --> 01:15:53.159 Has the has there been any and I understand I'm 1074 01:15:53.159 --> 01:15:55.319 asking you to dime out your people if this is 1075 01:15:55.359 --> 01:15:59.680 a true statement. Has there been any thread of truth 1076 01:15:59.760 --> 01:16:02.760 to having a weaker and ji hottiest connection? 1077 01:16:04.439 --> 01:16:07.359 So yes, because Chinese intelligence created this. 1078 01:16:07.760 --> 01:16:09.960 No, no, no, I'm not talking about by the Chinese media 1079 01:16:10.079 --> 01:16:12.560 because because I don't believe a word that comes out 1080 01:16:12.560 --> 01:16:14.279 of there by. 1081 01:16:15.039 --> 01:16:18.640 Unfortunately, so this is the thing. So document number seven happens. 1082 01:16:18.840 --> 01:16:22.039 They like they launched the Strike Hard campaign in April 1083 01:16:22.199 --> 01:16:26.159 nineteen ninety six. Within by nineteen ninety seven, one hundred 1084 01:16:26.199 --> 01:16:30.359 thousand arrests. One hundred thousand people have been arrested as 1085 01:16:30.520 --> 01:16:36.359 ethnic separatists or ethnic spluidist, national separatists, et cetera. But 1086 01:16:37.359 --> 01:16:44.119 co conveniently, while many people are being arrested, certain islam 1087 01:16:44.199 --> 01:16:48.960 mist extremists, this is the Chinese government's terminology, are being 1088 01:16:49.039 --> 01:16:54.239 let out of prison while the nationalists are being in prison. 1089 01:16:54.760 --> 01:16:59.239 And guess where these people, these handfulists, like not even 1090 01:16:59.319 --> 01:17:02.159 like a dozen of them are released. We believe that 1091 01:17:02.199 --> 01:17:06.760 they were Chinese intelligence operatives actually, and they are sent 1092 01:17:06.800 --> 01:17:09.880 off into Pakistan. And if you know anything about Pakistan 1093 01:17:09.960 --> 01:17:15.039 and China's relationship since Pakistan, you know, since the nineteen 1094 01:17:15.079 --> 01:17:19.920 fifty China fifties, Pakistan and China's relationship is an all 1095 01:17:20.079 --> 01:17:25.640 out whether ally partnership. Yeah, there are allies and everything. 1096 01:17:26.239 --> 01:17:30.119 So this group of people led by Hassan Mahsum that's 1097 01:17:30.119 --> 01:17:33.439 his name, they end up like less than a dozen ubars, 1098 01:17:33.880 --> 01:17:39.000 end up initially traveling to Beijing. So you really wouldn't let. 1099 01:17:38.920 --> 01:17:42.840 You know, these violent extremists immediately go to your capital city, 1100 01:17:43.000 --> 01:17:46.239 no red flags there. Then they go to Pakistan, which 1101 01:17:47.039 --> 01:17:49.520 just like you said, Pakistan and the Chinese government, Yeah, 1102 01:17:49.520 --> 01:17:51.479 their history has been a little whatever, but especially if 1103 01:17:51.479 --> 01:17:53.039 you look at the Belton rode in issues that was 1104 01:17:53.079 --> 01:17:56.359 going straight through Pakistan, they are super friendly with your boys, Gi. 1105 01:17:57.199 --> 01:18:00.560 Yeah, and no, even back then, like even in the eighties, 1106 01:18:00.840 --> 01:18:04.039 when we will try to flee, you know, to Pakistan 1107 01:18:04.159 --> 01:18:08.199 or in the early nineties, the Pakistanis will immediately capture 1108 01:18:08.239 --> 01:18:10.640 those vials and hand them over to China, and China 1109 01:18:10.640 --> 01:18:12.199 would execute them on the spot. 1110 01:18:12.520 --> 01:18:12.720 Right. 1111 01:18:12.800 --> 01:18:14.680 In fact, this happened in nineteen ninety six to ninety 1112 01:18:14.720 --> 01:18:19.319 seven as well. But for this group, the sample of individuals. 1113 01:18:19.720 --> 01:18:22.840 Nothing happens to it except they are greeted by the 1114 01:18:22.840 --> 01:18:26.680 Pakistani Islamic Party. And if you know anything about the 1115 01:18:26.720 --> 01:18:30.079 Pakistani is Laming Party would after a decade after this, 1116 01:18:30.359 --> 01:18:34.000 like over a decade after this, it would become revealed 1117 01:18:34.000 --> 01:18:38.199 that the Pakistani is Laming Party and the CCP have 1118 01:18:38.319 --> 01:18:43.520 a strategic partnership agreement. Yeah, and you can it's it's 1119 01:18:43.680 --> 01:18:46.439 public information as well. You can literally Google it and 1120 01:18:46.840 --> 01:18:48.760 type it in and you'll be able to see it. 1121 01:18:49.159 --> 01:18:52.439 So that's the quote unquote ge hottest connection. But like 1122 01:18:52.520 --> 01:18:56.560 you said that, it's completely manufactured start to finish by 1123 01:18:56.640 --> 01:18:59.560 the CCP. But at least on paper, they have that 1124 01:18:59.680 --> 01:19:02.399 thread on the court board just so these people came 1125 01:19:02.399 --> 01:19:05.239 from this Muslim area and then they go to this 1126 01:19:05.319 --> 01:19:08.680 other Muslim country and it looks really bad, even though 1127 01:19:08.680 --> 01:19:10.319 they're the ones that literally sent them there. 1128 01:19:10.800 --> 01:19:15.319 Yeah. Yeah. And the worst part is while our legitimate 1129 01:19:15.560 --> 01:19:20.520 independence movement which in neighboring Central Asia Kazakhstan, Krkistan, they 1130 01:19:20.520 --> 01:19:24.560 are being suppressed. China is pressuring using the Shanghai Five, 1131 01:19:24.920 --> 01:19:28.359 pressuring those governments to suppress them. They carry out a 1132 01:19:28.399 --> 01:19:31.560 bunch of assassinations many of our leaders are killed and 1133 01:19:31.600 --> 01:19:36.279 then the handful of w wars that under Hassan Mahsum 1134 01:19:36.359 --> 01:19:39.560 in Pakistan, they start creating propaganda stating that you know, 1135 01:19:39.640 --> 01:19:45.119 we established the East Turkistan Islamic Party conveniently modeled off 1136 01:19:45.159 --> 01:19:49.520 of the Pakistan Islamic Party, and that our goal. God 1137 01:19:49.560 --> 01:19:52.520 doesn't ask you what you're doing for Islam. I mean 1138 01:19:52.560 --> 01:19:55.439 what you're doing for East Turkistan. God is going to 1139 01:19:55.479 --> 01:20:00.000 ask you what you did for Islam. Nationalism is bad 1140 01:20:00.159 --> 01:20:02.840 to be focusing on nationalism and trying to create an 1141 01:20:02.880 --> 01:20:07.319 independent state. We need to fight against the global infidels 1142 01:20:07.359 --> 01:20:09.399 and create a global Islamic caliphate. 1143 01:20:10.119 --> 01:20:11.920 Yeah, I feel like the Wakers did not make this 1144 01:20:12.000 --> 01:20:13.600 party up. I could be wrong. 1145 01:20:16.319 --> 01:20:21.520 It's Chinese intelligence operation because if you remember what is 1146 01:20:21.600 --> 01:20:24.920 China most afraid of Document number seven, If you look 1147 01:20:24.920 --> 01:20:30.319 at article one point one, it's states counter revolutionary forces 1148 01:20:30.560 --> 01:20:35.039 led by the United States of America supporting nationalists, separatists 1149 01:20:35.079 --> 01:20:39.800 in sabotage and separatist activities. So the last thing they 1150 01:20:39.880 --> 01:20:43.840 want is the United States or some Western power to 1151 01:20:43.960 --> 01:20:47.359 support our independence movement. And that's the whole thing, is 1152 01:20:47.399 --> 01:20:51.960 to prevent the internationalization of the East Kistan problem. So 1153 01:20:52.000 --> 01:20:56.399 what better way to do it than because Islamic fundamentalism 1154 01:20:56.479 --> 01:20:58.760 is on the rise in that era, is emanating from 1155 01:20:58.960 --> 01:21:03.479 Pakistan and Afghanistan, and global governments are like, hey, Islamic 1156 01:21:03.600 --> 01:21:05.640 fundamentalism is on the rise, this is going to be 1157 01:21:05.640 --> 01:21:09.439 a serious threat. China was like, this is my you know, 1158 01:21:09.520 --> 01:21:13.880 opportunity to wipe them out. In fact, the Guardian in 1159 01:21:13.920 --> 01:21:19.680 its nineteen ninety seven report article it states in nineteen 1160 01:21:19.720 --> 01:21:24.560 ninety six Wigers leaders separatists. It says Viager separatist leaders 1161 01:21:24.560 --> 01:21:28.680 met with the State Department. But China has been increasingly 1162 01:21:28.840 --> 01:21:35.399 trying to link Weiger separatism to Islamic fundamentalism, and Western 1163 01:21:35.439 --> 01:21:39.239 experts believe that this is a deliberate attempt in order 1164 01:21:39.279 --> 01:21:46.399 to undermine the independence movement and to deter any to 1165 01:21:46.479 --> 01:21:50.920 prevent you know, international sympathy and support before the causes 1166 01:21:51.560 --> 01:21:53.880 is even known in the international community. 1167 01:21:54.279 --> 01:21:56.920 That's so ridiculous. Like you said, the weaker population are 1168 01:21:56.960 --> 01:21:59.760 not known to be fundamentalists. They are more of the 1169 01:22:00.000 --> 01:22:04.359 aggressive or or somebody even say, the liberal sect of Islam. 1170 01:22:04.520 --> 01:22:06.439 So to say that they have all of a sudden 1171 01:22:06.640 --> 01:22:08.960 started to be a part of the global into fada, 1172 01:22:09.079 --> 01:22:11.920 that's right off of the rip. That sounds ridiculous. But 1173 01:22:12.000 --> 01:22:14.239 then to also mention it in the nineteen ninety six 1174 01:22:14.319 --> 01:22:16.920 and Document seven to say that they were trying to 1175 01:22:16.920 --> 01:22:20.520 prevent America from acknowledging them as a country. That's also 1176 01:22:20.680 --> 01:22:22.840 kind of crazy for a couple of reasons. Right. I mean, 1177 01:22:22.880 --> 01:22:26.600 in the early nineties, anyway, we were kind of getting 1178 01:22:26.640 --> 01:22:29.920 in cool with China. We had a decent trade relationship 1179 01:22:29.960 --> 01:22:34.840 held Joe Biden ak China. Joe, there is speeches that 1180 01:22:34.920 --> 01:22:37.960 he gave where he was telling the American people that 1181 01:22:38.039 --> 01:22:40.680 we need to climb even deeper into bed with China. 1182 01:22:41.199 --> 01:22:44.039 So if anything, they were trying to do whatever China 1183 01:22:44.159 --> 01:22:46.159 wanted at that point to try to make better trade 1184 01:22:46.159 --> 01:22:48.560 deals happen. So the fact they would write that down there, 1185 01:22:48.600 --> 01:22:51.199 they're basically grasping any straw that they can to make 1186 01:22:51.239 --> 01:22:53.359 it look good on paper that what they're doing is 1187 01:22:53.600 --> 01:22:56.920 justified in whatever way they can exactly. 1188 01:22:56.920 --> 01:22:59.720 Exactly, because at that time, the you guys hadn't even 1189 01:22:59.760 --> 01:23:03.840 heard about us remotely in any sense to be able 1190 01:23:03.880 --> 01:23:07.640 to even you know, to help us engage in any 1191 01:23:07.720 --> 01:23:12.880 sabotage activities or any anything like that. But and that, 1192 01:23:13.079 --> 01:23:16.520 and this is precisely what the false flag entity was 1193 01:23:16.560 --> 01:23:21.359 created for. So our leaders in Central Asia are real 1194 01:23:21.439 --> 01:23:25.880 national movement. Immediately they declare that this is you know, 1195 01:23:25.920 --> 01:23:28.479 our leaders at that time said, we believe this guy 1196 01:23:28.600 --> 01:23:31.880 is the Chinese intelligence operative. This is not what our 1197 01:23:31.920 --> 01:23:36.319 movement is about. Our organizations in Central Asia repeatedly made, 1198 01:23:36.520 --> 01:23:39.840 you know, issued joint statements saying our cause has nothing 1199 01:23:39.920 --> 01:23:44.680 to do with Islamic fundamentalism. It's solely about national liberation. 1200 01:23:45.640 --> 01:23:49.680 This entity does not you know this these group of people. 1201 01:23:49.760 --> 01:23:55.119 We believe these are Chinese agents. Yet our nationalist leaders 1202 01:23:55.159 --> 01:23:58.439 that are being picked off one by one assassinated while 1203 01:23:59.079 --> 01:24:02.359 this islam ast part is driving and fun thing. Fun 1204 01:24:02.399 --> 01:24:05.000 fact is and you can find this it's public information 1205 01:24:05.079 --> 01:24:12.039 as well. In February of nineteen ninety eight, the Pakistani Isi, 1206 01:24:12.760 --> 01:24:17.600 Chinese Ministry of State Security, the Chinese Intelligence and the Taliban. 1207 01:24:17.800 --> 01:24:22.680 They hold a trilateral meeting in Kabul in nineteen nine. 1208 01:24:22.720 --> 01:24:26.079 In February of nineteen ninety eight, and they're Mola Omar, 1209 01:24:26.159 --> 01:24:30.680 the leader of the Taliban, he reiterates, the Chinese are like, 1210 01:24:30.760 --> 01:24:32.399 we want you to promise you won't let you know 1211 01:24:32.479 --> 01:24:35.520 viger separatists, et cetera. Use Afghanistan as a base to 1212 01:24:35.800 --> 01:24:39.640 attack us. And he's like, of course not. And so 1213 01:24:39.720 --> 01:24:47.800 China began supplying the Taliban with funds, with technology, specifically 1214 01:24:47.880 --> 01:24:52.000 through Huawei, and you know, start helping them, you know, 1215 01:24:52.720 --> 01:24:54.520 also in many ways through Pakistan. 1216 01:24:54.800 --> 01:24:56.800 And that would make sense as well that the Taliban 1217 01:24:56.840 --> 01:24:59.039 would not be too fond of the Wagers because again 1218 01:24:59.119 --> 01:25:02.479 they are a far fundamentalist group. If anything, they would 1219 01:25:02.520 --> 01:25:06.479 see correct me if I'm wrong here, but fundamentalists Islamists 1220 01:25:06.479 --> 01:25:12.119 would see the Wigers as more or less borderline infidels. Correct. 1221 01:25:12.840 --> 01:25:16.159 Yeah, So in fact, the the t I P or 1222 01:25:16.199 --> 01:25:20.359 the et I P it declared our national list leaders 1223 01:25:20.479 --> 01:25:25.800 as infidels and said that you know you're you're being backed. 1224 01:25:25.880 --> 01:25:29.279 They accused our nationalist leaders of being backed by democratic 1225 01:25:29.319 --> 01:25:33.640 infidels and you know, of underlining our religion, et cetera. 1226 01:25:33.800 --> 01:25:37.359 Of course, this is Chinese intelligence operation because if you 1227 01:25:37.399 --> 01:25:41.600 look at Directive number eight, it specifically states, in document 1228 01:25:41.680 --> 01:25:47.520 number seven, it specifically states on point eight, divide engaging 1229 01:25:47.600 --> 01:25:54.840 dialogue with overseas groups, divide divide them marginalized, those who refused, 1230 01:25:54.920 --> 01:25:57.479 you know, the hardcore supportors, those who refuse to give 1231 01:25:57.560 --> 01:26:02.000 up on independence, and these groups they're not They said, 1232 01:26:02.039 --> 01:26:03.680 God is not going to ask us what we did, 1233 01:26:03.800 --> 01:26:06.439 you know, for East Turkistan. God was going to ask 1234 01:26:06.520 --> 01:26:09.840 us what we did for Islam. So our goal should 1235 01:26:09.920 --> 01:26:13.640 be to fight against the entire you know, global infidels 1236 01:26:13.680 --> 01:26:16.359 starting from the United States of America. Literally, this is 1237 01:26:16.359 --> 01:26:21.319 what they said, startings of America, because again China needs 1238 01:26:21.359 --> 01:26:24.479 to portray that, you know, vigers are connected to terrorism, 1239 01:26:24.560 --> 01:26:27.920 international juadis, it's a threat to everyone's country. So all 1240 01:26:27.960 --> 01:26:31.279 other countries needs to support China's efforts to wipe out 1241 01:26:31.279 --> 01:26:32.319 this independence movement. 1242 01:26:32.520 --> 01:26:34.399 Yeah, so this. 1243 01:26:34.399 --> 01:26:39.000 Happens, and then the the ETIP which was holding you know, 1244 01:26:39.039 --> 01:26:41.960 the small group of Wigers under Asan Mustum, which was 1245 01:26:41.960 --> 01:26:47.279 holding Pakistan by the summer of nineteen ninety eight, they're 1246 01:26:47.319 --> 01:26:51.720 sent off into they're allowed into Afghanistan, and then they're 1247 01:26:51.760 --> 01:26:56.920 aligned guess with who Osama be Lad. It's not a coincidence, 1248 01:26:57.319 --> 01:27:00.800 because again this is just about manufacturing the trail of 1249 01:27:00.920 --> 01:27:05.239 evidence that China will use in the coming years. Then 1250 01:27:05.560 --> 01:27:09.600 this group, you know, they aligned with also another group 1251 01:27:09.640 --> 01:27:15.359 called the Zbekistan Islamic Movement, which was set up the 1252 01:27:15.399 --> 01:27:20.439 same year. Actually because and many people believe that it 1253 01:27:20.479 --> 01:27:25.039 was set up by the Russian intelligence because Azbekistan refused 1254 01:27:25.079 --> 01:27:28.119 to allow the Russians to have a base to maintain 1255 01:27:28.239 --> 01:27:34.279 to keep having a base in their country. So coincidentally, 1256 01:27:34.319 --> 01:27:39.039 after you know, Zbekistan refused, an Islamist group claiming to 1257 01:27:39.640 --> 01:27:45.399 you know, vowing to overthrow the infidel government of Zbekistan 1258 01:27:45.439 --> 01:27:48.800 and replace it with an Islamic government conveniently pops up 1259 01:27:48.800 --> 01:27:54.159 in Afghanistan, and of course they invade. They actually this 1260 01:27:54.239 --> 01:27:58.319 group actually invades Kyrgyzstan, which is right across the border. 1261 01:27:59.319 --> 01:28:03.800 And then the Russians are like, hey, we can mediate 1262 01:28:03.880 --> 01:28:07.239 this for you. We can help you defeat these groups 1263 01:28:07.720 --> 01:28:09.960 if you allow us a base. And of course they're like, 1264 01:28:10.000 --> 01:28:13.640 all right, those countries forces are not exactly up to par, 1265 01:28:13.800 --> 01:28:17.840 so they're like all right, and the Russians airlift those 1266 01:28:18.000 --> 01:28:24.640 I amu Jihadis back to Afghanistan. They still need them 1267 01:28:24.680 --> 01:28:29.840 for their future plans, so they did, oh no coming back. 1268 01:28:29.960 --> 01:28:33.359 So by nineteen ninety eight, the independence movement in Central Asia, 1269 01:28:33.560 --> 01:28:38.960 the legitimate independence movement, is killed off. In Turkey, the 1270 01:28:39.000 --> 01:28:42.920 Turkish government literally sells us in exchange for weapons and 1271 01:28:42.960 --> 01:28:47.359 missile defense technology from China to where they starting in 1272 01:28:47.399 --> 01:28:52.279 nineteen ninety seven, they enact a Beijing First policy, and 1273 01:28:52.760 --> 01:28:57.119 they issue a secret directive in nineteen ninety eight even 1274 01:28:57.239 --> 01:29:00.640 banning even because in Turkey they referred to us as 1275 01:29:00.640 --> 01:29:05.880 East Turkistan historically, because we're ethnically Turkic people and the 1276 01:29:05.920 --> 01:29:07.880 people there, you know, support us. 1277 01:29:07.760 --> 01:29:10.439 And that's a big thing for Turkey to acknowledge other 1278 01:29:10.520 --> 01:29:13.880 ethnically Turkic people like that is that's a big deal 1279 01:29:13.920 --> 01:29:16.880 for their culture. So it makes perfect sense that they 1280 01:29:16.880 --> 01:29:19.920 would see you as their Turkic kin in some way, 1281 01:29:19.920 --> 01:29:20.880 shape or form. 1282 01:29:21.239 --> 01:29:24.840 They the Turkic nationalists. They view East Takistan as the 1283 01:29:24.920 --> 01:29:28.640 fatherland of the Turkic People's sure, sure, because this is 1284 01:29:28.680 --> 01:29:32.000 where we this is where the Turks originated from the 1285 01:29:32.079 --> 01:29:37.479 East Turkistan actually, and then spread out across Central Asia 1286 01:29:37.520 --> 01:29:42.399 and ultimately into Anatolia and the tenth eleventh, eleventh century 1287 01:29:42.479 --> 01:29:49.439 or so. So Turkey sells us out quietly. And then 1288 01:29:49.640 --> 01:29:52.840 in two thousand and one, this is when Uzbekistan was 1289 01:29:52.880 --> 01:29:56.000 the only one that refused to join the SEO up 1290 01:29:56.079 --> 01:29:59.960 until then, the Shanghai Five, and then after the Eye 1291 01:30:00.000 --> 01:30:06.760 I Am You and the ETP, they merge in in 1292 01:30:06.800 --> 01:30:09.159 May of two thousand and one, and they merge, and 1293 01:30:09.199 --> 01:30:13.800 they rebrand their merger as the Turkistan Islamic Party with 1294 01:30:13.960 --> 01:30:17.359 the goal of establishing an Islamic caliphate in the whole 1295 01:30:17.399 --> 01:30:21.560 of Central Asia. So China then says, see, these weaker 1296 01:30:21.680 --> 01:30:26.600 separatists are threat to all of your national securities. They're 1297 01:30:26.640 --> 01:30:29.319 not just a threat to me. We have a common enemy. 1298 01:30:29.640 --> 01:30:32.680 So they bring that into the fold. Then nine to 1299 01:30:32.680 --> 01:30:36.039 eleven happens. Nine to eleven happens, and immediately China's like, 1300 01:30:36.039 --> 01:30:40.039 we're a victim of East Turkistani terrorism. We've been fighting 1301 01:30:40.119 --> 01:30:46.239 terrorism for decades. And then on November twenty six of 1302 01:30:46.279 --> 01:30:50.640 two thousand and one, at the UN Security Council, China's like, 1303 01:30:51.600 --> 01:30:54.039 we have been a victim of the East of East 1304 01:30:54.079 --> 01:30:58.159 Turkistan terrorist forces led by the ETIM, the so called 1305 01:30:58.199 --> 01:31:02.279 East Turkistan Islamic Movement. This is the first time ever 1306 01:31:02.439 --> 01:31:06.199 that they mentioned that entity. And the reason they mentioned 1307 01:31:06.199 --> 01:31:11.800 this is because one they wanted connected to al Qaeda, 1308 01:31:11.840 --> 01:31:16.520 global jihadism, et cetera. Two they want to demonize all 1309 01:31:16.640 --> 01:31:21.760 our entire independence movement and under one go by it. 1310 01:31:21.880 --> 01:31:24.840 And at that time, man the iron was hot. There 1311 01:31:24.920 --> 01:31:26.960 was the moment to strike and let it be known 1312 01:31:26.960 --> 01:31:29.680 because that was that was the hot button item worldwide 1313 01:31:29.680 --> 01:31:32.439 at that moment, absolutely exactly. 1314 01:31:32.479 --> 01:31:37.159 And so China first time was November of two thousand 1315 01:31:37.159 --> 01:31:40.239 and one, two months after nine eleven. They're like, oh, 1316 01:31:40.479 --> 01:31:44.760 we're fighting against you know, East Turkistani terrorist forces led 1317 01:31:44.800 --> 01:31:47.800 by the East Turkistan Islamic Movement. 1318 01:31:48.119 --> 01:31:51.840 And even though all the quote unquote terrorist activities were 1319 01:31:51.840 --> 01:31:55.880 completely manufactured by the CCP and blamed on the East 1320 01:31:55.920 --> 01:31:57.319 Turkestan people. 1321 01:31:57.600 --> 01:32:03.680 Yeah, yeah, And so they they sub point to the 1322 01:32:03.720 --> 01:32:08.880 handful of hikers under the TP in Afghanistan and they're like, see, 1323 01:32:08.920 --> 01:32:13.920 they're fighting against alongside al Qaeda, they're fighting against NATO forces. 1324 01:32:13.520 --> 01:32:17.279 The ones of the CCP sent there right right. 1325 01:32:17.560 --> 01:32:20.840 So this is to the West. They're like, oh, we 1326 01:32:20.920 --> 01:32:24.800 share a common threat. And so the United States part 1327 01:32:24.840 --> 01:32:28.439 of in fact, China wanted all Eastern extending groups listed 1328 01:32:28.439 --> 01:32:31.079 as terrorists, but the US refused and they're like, well, 1329 01:32:31.119 --> 01:32:33.880 accept the E T I M as a terrorist group. 1330 01:32:35.000 --> 01:32:37.520 If this is the ones that are in Afghanistan, then yeah, 1331 01:32:37.560 --> 01:32:41.439 we'll label them as such. And this was as part 1332 01:32:41.479 --> 01:32:44.079 of the quid quote pro China would not veto the 1333 01:32:44.199 --> 01:32:49.520 US's entrance into Iraq, the US invasion of Iraq, the 1334 01:32:49.600 --> 01:32:51.720 US would recognize the so called e T I M. 1335 01:32:52.000 --> 01:32:55.239 And so when the US did that, China immediately turned 1336 01:32:55.239 --> 01:32:59.359 that propaganda and said the internally into our people and said, 1337 01:32:59.359 --> 01:33:03.920 the United States recognize your independence movement as a terrorist 1338 01:33:04.039 --> 01:33:10.239 organization because again ETIM, remove the Islamic, replace it with independence, 1339 01:33:10.279 --> 01:33:13.960 you get the same thing. Remove independence and replace it 1340 01:33:13.960 --> 01:33:17.359 with Islamic, you still get ETIM. So this was the 1341 01:33:17.640 --> 01:33:21.800 one thing that China use capitalized up ever since, and 1342 01:33:21.840 --> 01:33:25.640 then by two thousand and three, two thousand and two, 1343 01:33:25.800 --> 01:33:29.840 they had virtually killed off our independence movement as a whole, 1344 01:33:30.079 --> 01:33:35.840 to where even saying East Turkistan became criminalized, Like if 1345 01:33:35.840 --> 01:33:38.319 you even use the words East Turkistan, you were a terrorist. 1346 01:33:38.399 --> 01:33:41.399 This is the way that they wow. 1347 01:33:42.720 --> 01:33:46.199 Wow, I mean, and they that's still the case to 1348 01:33:46.199 --> 01:33:46.560 this day. 1349 01:33:46.600 --> 01:33:49.720 I assume, yeah, that's that's still the case. I mean 1350 01:33:49.760 --> 01:33:53.479 to this day, they still, you know, like anytime they 1351 01:33:53.880 --> 01:33:57.600 want to demonize us, they're like, oh, you're you're et 1352 01:33:57.760 --> 01:34:01.199 I AM, your ETIM forces. And despite the fact that 1353 01:34:01.239 --> 01:34:07.520 we've repeatedly numerous times you know, even written documented all 1354 01:34:07.560 --> 01:34:11.319 of their lives through it out there. They'll still try 1355 01:34:11.359 --> 01:34:15.000 to propagate that, especially amongst people who aren't unaware. And 1356 01:34:15.800 --> 01:34:19.840 luckily the US in two thousand and twenty. On October 1357 01:34:19.880 --> 01:34:24.279 twenty twenty, d LISTED removed the ETIM from its terrorist 1358 01:34:24.359 --> 01:34:28.279 designation because the US is like, this group doesn't exist 1359 01:34:28.359 --> 01:34:33.079 the Chinese. There's no group ever calling itself the ETIM. 1360 01:34:33.199 --> 01:34:36.000 We've always relied on China on this, but there's no 1361 01:34:36.119 --> 01:34:39.479 group calling it that. However, the GIP is a different group. 1362 01:34:39.520 --> 01:34:42.279 The US was like, we viewed the TIP as a 1363 01:34:42.319 --> 01:34:46.000 different group from the ETIM because China is abusing this 1364 01:34:46.199 --> 01:34:52.479 so called ETIM to delegitimize and label allwigers as terrorists 1365 01:34:52.479 --> 01:34:53.560 and this is not acceptable. 1366 01:34:53.840 --> 01:34:58.039 So, yeah, the Chinese problem has become way more prevalent 1367 01:34:58.159 --> 01:35:00.920 on the American not just the culturals guys, but within 1368 01:35:01.319 --> 01:35:04.960 DC itself. And a portion of that is because of 1369 01:35:04.960 --> 01:35:08.159 Taiwan in the situation that's going on there, without a doubt, 1370 01:35:08.560 --> 01:35:10.199 But it's not like this is the first time that 1371 01:35:10.279 --> 01:35:12.640 this has become a thing. Like you had mentioned earlier, Tibet, 1372 01:35:12.760 --> 01:35:14.800 we could talk about if you just look at a 1373 01:35:14.880 --> 01:35:18.119 map of China and you look at China proper versus 1374 01:35:18.199 --> 01:35:24.840 Chinese occupied territory. There is currently Chinese occupied Mongolia, Tibetpaul Hell. 1375 01:35:24.960 --> 01:35:27.880 India and China they get in a fistfight over border disputes. 1376 01:35:27.920 --> 01:35:29.760 It seems like once or twice a year they start 1377 01:35:29.760 --> 01:35:32.399 bringing like clubs and shit because nobody's willing to fire 1378 01:35:32.399 --> 01:35:35.600 a shot at each other. But that's side conversation. But yeah, 1379 01:35:35.720 --> 01:35:38.479 China has been on this kick for quite some time. 1380 01:35:38.520 --> 01:35:40.159 And then if you look at what's going down right 1381 01:35:40.199 --> 01:35:42.520 now in Burma and Meanmar or excuse me, used to 1382 01:35:42.520 --> 01:35:46.239 be Burma now it's Meanmmar and their civil conflict. And 1383 01:35:46.279 --> 01:35:49.119 you also look like what's going on in Thailand and Cambodia. 1384 01:35:49.239 --> 01:35:51.760 I wouldn't be shocked if China doesn't use this as 1385 01:35:51.800 --> 01:35:54.359 an opportunity to start pushing into the borders of those 1386 01:35:54.399 --> 01:35:58.359 countries for you know, border security and for the betterment 1387 01:35:58.439 --> 01:36:01.520 of Southeast Asia. They'll they'll listed in propagandas at all 1388 01:36:01.560 --> 01:36:03.439 they want, right, So. 1389 01:36:03.119 --> 01:36:06.720 They're actually that's part of their plan. Yeah, in fact, 1390 01:36:07.119 --> 01:36:10.119 China's like for example, earlier today, I was reading an 1391 01:36:10.159 --> 01:36:14.800 article China supplied. I believe it was Thailand with the 1392 01:36:14.840 --> 01:36:22.039 tanks to fight against Cambodia, and then China supplied Cambodia 1393 01:36:22.079 --> 01:36:24.560 with the anti tank mixles to fight against. 1394 01:36:25.680 --> 01:36:27.560 Yeah, that's how it goes. How do you control the 1395 01:36:27.600 --> 01:36:30.920 war by funding both sides. That's that's the whole plan. 1396 01:36:31.039 --> 01:36:33.439 So they're going to make it a such a bloody 1397 01:36:33.479 --> 01:36:37.119 conflict that they are seen as the heroes for stepping 1398 01:36:37.159 --> 01:36:39.000 in and ending it all. And if they get a 1399 01:36:39.000 --> 01:36:41.000 little land in the conflict, and that's just part for 1400 01:36:41.039 --> 01:36:42.560 the course. But it's like, no, no, that was all 1401 01:36:42.560 --> 01:36:45.520 propagated by them from the beginning. And so the Taiwan 1402 01:36:45.640 --> 01:36:49.239 situation is something that American politics has taken way more 1403 01:36:49.239 --> 01:36:52.560 serious in the last five years than ever before. And 1404 01:36:52.600 --> 01:36:55.359 I'm thinking that as a result of that, the East 1405 01:36:55.359 --> 01:36:58.680 Turkestan conversation can also get taken pretty seriously as well, 1406 01:36:59.399 --> 01:36:59.760 I hope. 1407 01:36:59.800 --> 01:37:03.760 So and so coming to this, this is where we're 1408 01:37:03.840 --> 01:37:06.920 leading up to the genocide. So after nine to eleven, 1409 01:37:07.039 --> 01:37:10.600 China begins, you know, propagating this. They ban our language, 1410 01:37:10.920 --> 01:37:15.520 they ban religious practices, and then in two thousand and nine, 1411 01:37:16.560 --> 01:37:20.000 November two thousand and nine, at China's National Defense University, 1412 01:37:20.960 --> 01:37:24.960 a Chinese military strategist gives a two hour lecture on 1413 01:37:25.000 --> 01:37:29.279 the future war between the US and China over Taiwan. 1414 01:37:30.359 --> 01:37:34.680 And in that lecture he highlights he states that China 1415 01:37:34.720 --> 01:37:38.680 has the capabilities to take Taiwan now, but there is 1416 01:37:38.760 --> 01:37:42.800 one thing preventing it from doing so. His two major things, 1417 01:37:42.800 --> 01:37:45.199 but one is more major than the other. And he said, 1418 01:37:45.279 --> 01:37:50.560 he asks, you know, his he's briefing Chinese military officials 1419 01:37:50.800 --> 01:37:53.279 intelligence of Fistles, and he asked them, you know, what 1420 01:37:53.319 --> 01:37:55.319 do you think it is? And they all throw out 1421 01:37:55.359 --> 01:37:58.880 different things, and he's like, you're all wrong. The real 1422 01:37:58.960 --> 01:38:03.159 problem is the East Turkistan problem, because if we were, 1423 01:38:03.199 --> 01:38:04.560 he says, if we were, it's. 1424 01:38:04.359 --> 01:38:07.880 On the polar opposite side of the country, and somehow 1425 01:38:07.960 --> 01:38:11.680 East Turkestan is the thing preventing the Taiwan invasion. 1426 01:38:12.640 --> 01:38:18.000 Well, listen to his logic. So and from it like 1427 01:38:18.359 --> 01:38:20.079 you could be like, ah, if you were, you know, 1428 01:38:20.119 --> 01:38:22.199 you could be like Okay, I could. I can understand that, 1429 01:38:22.920 --> 01:38:27.479 because he states, if we were to, you know, go 1430 01:38:27.560 --> 01:38:31.279 to war without resolving the East Turkistan problem completely, the 1431 01:38:31.399 --> 01:38:34.359 US could arm three hundred thousand to half a million 1432 01:38:34.479 --> 01:38:37.600 wears overnight and they would cut off our west to 1433 01:38:37.680 --> 01:38:44.159 east pipelines. So East Turkistan we make up about a 1434 01:38:44.199 --> 01:38:47.479 fifth of the PRC's the territory under the control of 1435 01:38:47.479 --> 01:38:51.840 the PRC. We are the corner. I'll get into the 1436 01:38:51.880 --> 01:38:54.680 Belton Road initiative in a little bit. We we make 1437 01:38:54.800 --> 01:38:58.199 up over forty just around forty to sixty percent of 1438 01:38:58.279 --> 01:39:01.760 China's coal reserves. Thirty percent of their oil and natural 1439 01:39:01.760 --> 01:39:07.479 gas reserves are from East Takistan. East Turkistan's you know, 1440 01:39:07.600 --> 01:39:13.560 provides oil and natural gas to twenty different Chinese provinces. 1441 01:39:14.000 --> 01:39:17.079 We power over one hundred Our electricity powers one hundred 1442 01:39:17.119 --> 01:39:23.520 and twenty major Chinese cities, including Beijing, Shanghai, to Guangdong, 1443 01:39:23.560 --> 01:39:27.600 to chang Qing, to all these major Chinese cities over 1444 01:39:27.600 --> 01:39:29.680 one hundred and twenty of those across China. 1445 01:39:30.239 --> 01:39:33.119 So it's making a lot more sense why they want 1446 01:39:33.159 --> 01:39:35.720 to keep y'all in the fold, Because China loves their 1447 01:39:35.760 --> 01:39:38.479 coal and they love their liquid natural gas, and they 1448 01:39:38.600 --> 01:39:39.760 gas absolutely. 1449 01:39:40.399 --> 01:39:43.439 From that perspective, he's like, if we were to lose, 1450 01:39:43.720 --> 01:39:45.720 if they were to cut that off, we would not 1451 01:39:45.840 --> 01:39:49.520 be able to sustain that war and we would lose. 1452 01:39:50.039 --> 01:39:53.760 Second reason, he says, the US, as you know, our 1453 01:39:54.159 --> 01:39:57.600 biggest another weakness is that we are relying on the 1454 01:39:57.640 --> 01:40:02.439 Strait of Malacca, which is on the Lane Peninsula. Do 1455 01:40:03.079 --> 01:40:06.439 you know that's where eighty percent of China's trade and 1456 01:40:06.560 --> 01:40:10.680 it's oil and natural gas imports for via sea go 1457 01:40:10.800 --> 01:40:16.199 through the Strait of Malacca and in a Taiwan contingency. 1458 01:40:16.319 --> 01:40:20.600 He states that the US and other nations could team 1459 01:40:20.720 --> 01:40:24.880 up and implement a blockade and we would not be 1460 01:40:24.920 --> 01:40:27.720 able to sustain that. So this is why we have 1461 01:40:27.840 --> 01:40:32.439 to solve the East Turkistan problem immediately. On the surface, 1462 01:40:32.520 --> 01:40:35.680 he states, we're going to play it off as counter terrorism. 1463 01:40:36.000 --> 01:40:38.399 Of course we know that's not true. He states it openly, 1464 01:40:38.439 --> 01:40:41.680 and you can find this on YouTube. It's available on YouTube. 1465 01:40:42.319 --> 01:40:44.479 It's not like you know something that I'm throwing out 1466 01:40:44.520 --> 01:40:48.720 there on YouTube. And he said, this is how we're 1467 01:40:48.760 --> 01:40:50.840 going to play We're going to play it off as 1468 01:40:50.840 --> 01:40:53.760 counter terrorism. Of course we know that's not the truth. 1469 01:40:53.800 --> 01:40:56.439 There's you know, the universal truth is much more different 1470 01:40:56.479 --> 01:40:58.880 than that, but that is what we'll play it off. 1471 01:40:58.960 --> 01:41:02.600 In fact. Then he goes on rants about praising Osama. 1472 01:41:02.680 --> 01:41:06.000 But he goes on ranting and praising Osama bin Laden, 1473 01:41:06.039 --> 01:41:09.399 stating that if Osama bin Laden hadn't kept the United 1474 01:41:09.439 --> 01:41:12.039 States busy for the past eight years, meaning from two 1475 01:41:12.079 --> 01:41:15.159 thousand and one to two thousand and nine. This wouldn't 1476 01:41:15.159 --> 01:41:17.920 have given China the opportunity to develop because the United 1477 01:41:17.960 --> 01:41:21.119 States would have focused on China instead of Osama bin 1478 01:41:21.159 --> 01:41:24.239 Laden and we would not been able to develop. So 1479 01:41:25.159 --> 01:41:28.520 he was like, if the leadership had asked me, you know, 1480 01:41:28.800 --> 01:41:32.119 I would have given awarded Osama bin Laden. I would 1481 01:41:32.159 --> 01:41:35.560 have invited him as an honorary guest to the Olympics 1482 01:41:35.640 --> 01:41:39.920 last year. This is this jet and he's he later 1483 01:41:40.319 --> 01:41:44.000 became the general, the head of the Chinese National Defense University. 1484 01:41:44.119 --> 01:41:51.000 His name is Daishuo. So he's stating that, so they're 1485 01:41:51.039 --> 01:41:55.560 already planning, laying out the groundworks for this. In fact, 1486 01:41:55.600 --> 01:41:59.239 if you look at satellite imagery analysis of China's concentration 1487 01:41:59.319 --> 01:42:02.840 camps in Easter Kistan, the excavation for much of it 1488 01:42:02.920 --> 01:42:07.640 was started in twenty ten twenty eleven. Shortly after this, 1489 01:42:08.399 --> 01:42:12.600 twenty thirteen, Chi Jinping comes to power, and what does 1490 01:42:12.640 --> 01:42:17.720 he unveil the Beltlin Road initiative. He says, this is 1491 01:42:17.920 --> 01:42:23.359 you know about connectivity, ensuring trade, you know, connecting China 1492 01:42:23.439 --> 01:42:26.560 to the world, and you know, helping other countries develop, 1493 01:42:26.640 --> 01:42:30.319 et cetera. When in reality, it's part of China's war preparations, 1494 01:42:30.319 --> 01:42:35.159 preliminary war preparations, and that's why they're trying to control 1495 01:42:35.239 --> 01:42:39.920 every major major you know, seaport, landport. This is where 1496 01:42:40.600 --> 01:42:45.039 East Turkistan is extremely vital, because without East Takistan, there 1497 01:42:45.079 --> 01:42:49.119 is no Belton Road initiative, right like you can't have 1498 01:42:49.159 --> 01:42:53.439 the Belton Road initiative without that. So obviously China's fears 1499 01:42:53.720 --> 01:42:58.399 even if we try to initiate this, potentially other countries 1500 01:42:58.479 --> 01:43:02.960 might try to you know, create you know problems here. 1501 01:43:03.479 --> 01:43:06.560 So we need to eliminate these problems. 1502 01:43:07.279 --> 01:43:10.079 So when do they start intering them? 1503 01:43:10.319 --> 01:43:15.359 So, I mean so twenty fourteen is when they start 1504 01:43:15.399 --> 01:43:18.680 doing this the official internment. But by twenty you know, 1505 01:43:18.760 --> 01:43:22.359 starting especially after twenty ten, China had erected you know 1506 01:43:23.920 --> 01:43:28.359 checkpoints all across Easter Kastan, like literally every five hundred meters, 1507 01:43:28.520 --> 01:43:34.840 putting in a ficial recognition cameras, deploying hundreds of thousands 1508 01:43:34.920 --> 01:43:42.239 of troops and you know, preparing the security state apparatus 1509 01:43:42.279 --> 01:43:44.479 to where all they have to do is just start 1510 01:43:44.520 --> 01:43:47.840 rounding up people. But of course China can't do this 1511 01:43:48.279 --> 01:43:55.359 without you know, a legal justification, a terrorist justification, because 1512 01:43:55.640 --> 01:43:59.439 to over the past decades, the international community has not 1513 01:43:59.560 --> 01:44:03.479 buy been buying. It's more fighting against terrorism narrative. 1514 01:44:04.079 --> 01:44:07.039 So now there's a false flag that's about to come 1515 01:44:07.079 --> 01:44:09.000 and hit the stay out exactly. 1516 01:44:09.119 --> 01:44:13.479 So in this is around the time in twenty twelve, 1517 01:44:13.560 --> 01:44:20.439 if you remember the Sharan conflict erupts and Hijin Ping visits. 1518 01:44:20.520 --> 01:44:24.640 In twenty twelve, Shi Jin Pin visits Turkey and there 1519 01:44:24.800 --> 01:44:27.000 they discuss two things. In fact, if you look at 1520 01:44:27.000 --> 01:44:29.560 the headlines at that time, you can type in Shijin 1521 01:44:29.640 --> 01:44:35.119 Pink Turkey twenty twelve, February twenty twelve and it says 1522 01:44:35.520 --> 01:44:43.000 she and Arduwan discussed Syria and trade. Then two months later, 1523 01:44:43.199 --> 01:44:46.880 arduwe goes to both East Takistan and the end of China, 1524 01:44:47.319 --> 01:44:51.880 and again the headline is tard one is engaging to 1525 01:44:51.960 --> 01:44:57.399 discuss Syria and trade cooperation on Syria. So what does 1526 01:44:57.439 --> 01:45:00.119 Syria have to do with us? Literally has nothing to 1527 01:45:00.119 --> 01:45:05.479 do with East Turkistan. But for China, this is the 1528 01:45:05.520 --> 01:45:09.880 perfect opportunity get rid of anyone that has the potential 1529 01:45:09.960 --> 01:45:13.560 to resist when you're gonna start rounding them up. Two, 1530 01:45:14.279 --> 01:45:19.720 there's jihadis fighting in Syria, there's isis in Syria. You 1531 01:45:19.720 --> 01:45:23.000 push these people over there, some of them, you push 1532 01:45:23.039 --> 01:45:27.000 them into those groups. Now you have a just terrorist justification. 1533 01:45:27.520 --> 01:45:30.760 What does Turkey benefit from it? Turkey needs cannon fodder 1534 01:45:31.119 --> 01:45:33.720 because it's not Turkish soldiers that are fighting against the 1535 01:45:33.800 --> 01:45:36.760 said regime. It's not Turkish soldiers that are fighting against 1536 01:45:36.760 --> 01:45:40.560 the curtains in Syria. It's jihadist from all across the 1537 01:45:40.600 --> 01:45:46.079 world dying for you know, essentially as you know, proxy assets. 1538 01:45:47.560 --> 01:45:50.079 And so this is the all in one, as the 1539 01:45:50.199 --> 01:45:54.640 Chinese call it, the wind wind solution to both Turkey's 1540 01:45:54.640 --> 01:45:58.720 problem and to China's problem. So, starting in twenty twelve, 1541 01:45:59.439 --> 01:46:05.279 they start propagating jihad in Syria inside East Pakistan, and 1542 01:46:05.319 --> 01:46:09.239 the Chinese intelligence pretends it's not aware of this. Then 1543 01:46:09.439 --> 01:46:14.920 they gather thirty thousand people estimated of twenty to thirty 1544 01:46:15.000 --> 01:46:18.159 thousand people and let them leave. If they left them 1545 01:46:18.239 --> 01:46:20.840 leave through Central Asia, it would be too obvious, right 1546 01:46:21.520 --> 01:46:25.439 those countries there because they're part of the SEO. They 1547 01:46:25.479 --> 01:46:34.199 have all the bordering countries, whether it's Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Afghanistan, Pakistan, India, 1548 01:46:34.279 --> 01:46:38.319 all of them have agreements. They will immediately deport anyone 1549 01:46:38.600 --> 01:46:42.039 Rus that tried to flee into their country, that try 1550 01:46:42.039 --> 01:46:43.640 to come into their country, they'll hand them over to 1551 01:46:43.680 --> 01:46:46.960 the Chinese immediately. That's part of the seo's agreement. 1552 01:46:46.800 --> 01:46:48.920 Right, And I mean China is really selective on who 1553 01:46:48.920 --> 01:46:53.000 they let leave the country. So they let thirty thousand Uigurs, 1554 01:46:53.039 --> 01:46:57.319 who they are openly at war with internally anyway, after 1555 01:46:57.359 --> 01:47:00.560 they already have called them Islamic terrorists and jihad and 1556 01:47:00.600 --> 01:47:04.640 all this. Now you have banners and propaganda for jihad 1557 01:47:04.960 --> 01:47:08.239 in an area where China is afraid of jihad, and 1558 01:47:08.319 --> 01:47:10.880 now they find a way to smuggle them out of 1559 01:47:10.920 --> 01:47:13.960 the thirty thousand of them out of the country. Yeah, 1560 01:47:14.000 --> 01:47:15.600 that's not going to raise a red flag to any 1561 01:47:15.600 --> 01:47:18.199 of the CCP checkpoints. What that's crazy. 1562 01:47:18.399 --> 01:47:21.640 Yeah, no, And that's the funny thing. They have checkpoints. 1563 01:47:21.680 --> 01:47:24.600 You can't go from one city to another without hitting 1564 01:47:24.680 --> 01:47:28.239 a checkpoint. But somehow these people miraculously. 1565 01:47:27.880 --> 01:47:30.640 Thirty thousand isn't like one car fool that made it 1566 01:47:30.680 --> 01:47:31.840 through the through the gates. 1567 01:47:31.880 --> 01:47:35.720 Like yeah, and so this is the game that China 1568 01:47:35.760 --> 01:47:41.000 and Turkish intelligence work together on. And so these rulers 1569 01:47:41.720 --> 01:47:46.119 are you know, smuggled out into Southeast Asia through Thailand 1570 01:47:46.119 --> 01:47:53.720 and Vietnam into Malaysia and then rescued by Turkish NGOs 1571 01:47:54.880 --> 01:47:57.920 and bring them to Turkey and then immediately bust them 1572 01:47:57.920 --> 01:48:01.079 off into Syria without even inner rock thing with the 1573 01:48:01.079 --> 01:48:05.119 the the uh WE were organizations in Turkey. 1574 01:48:05.319 --> 01:48:08.399 So they got slaughtered in Syria, I'm assuming because these 1575 01:48:08.399 --> 01:48:11.880 people have no military training or background, they got forced 1576 01:48:11.920 --> 01:48:15.520 into a glorified civil war where there was dirty bombs 1577 01:48:15.560 --> 01:48:17.720 being used, and there was all different types of countries 1578 01:48:17.760 --> 01:48:20.199 that had their hands in this hell. America had drone 1579 01:48:20.239 --> 01:48:22.640 strikes that took place in Syria. Russia had its hands 1580 01:48:22.640 --> 01:48:25.239 in there because it's big naval and air stations are 1581 01:48:25.279 --> 01:48:28.199 in Syria, like it's this was a closter fuck. 1582 01:48:29.000 --> 01:48:32.760 Yeah. So most of them actually like they were used 1583 01:48:32.920 --> 01:48:36.479 as the front line troops, like they were used to 1584 01:48:36.560 --> 01:48:39.399 carry out major attacks against the Assaud regime. 1585 01:48:39.560 --> 01:48:40.000 Absolute. 1586 01:48:41.439 --> 01:48:43.880 Yeah, they were the ones that you know, the Russian 1587 01:48:43.920 --> 01:48:48.039 aerial bombardments would always hit them. This was this was 1588 01:48:48.760 --> 01:48:50.159 their job. 1589 01:48:50.159 --> 01:48:52.399 And all they had to do was find the paperwork 1590 01:48:52.479 --> 01:48:54.760 on one of these bodies to say, oh, these are 1591 01:48:54.760 --> 01:48:57.600 Wigers from China and this is the connection. 1592 01:48:58.319 --> 01:49:01.920 So no, they go there and they are immediately lumped 1593 01:49:02.000 --> 01:49:07.600 under the Turkistan and Islamic Party. So that's that's yeah, yeah, 1594 01:49:07.640 --> 01:49:11.640 this is this is twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen, wow. Bye. 1595 01:49:11.920 --> 01:49:14.920 By twenty thirteen, this is happening. And then in twenty thirteen, 1596 01:49:14.960 --> 01:49:17.840 if you remember in October, in October of twenty thirteen, 1597 01:49:18.279 --> 01:49:22.279 there was a bombing at Tanman Square. Yeah, and immediately 1598 01:49:22.399 --> 01:49:26.039 China claim that it was wea were terrorists who did this. Yeah, 1599 01:49:26.920 --> 01:49:30.159 and they're like, oh, it was this weaker terrorist guy 1600 01:49:30.159 --> 01:49:33.760 with his elderly mom and you know wife. They drove 1601 01:49:34.000 --> 01:49:38.199 four thousand kilometers to Beijing with the Shinjoan license plate 1602 01:49:39.039 --> 01:49:42.399 and that then it's it's yet somehow it still managed 1603 01:49:42.399 --> 01:49:46.920 to enter Beijing, which is virtually impossible because you can't 1604 01:49:46.920 --> 01:49:51.920 even leave East Turkistan without hitting checkpoints. And these guys 1605 01:49:51.960 --> 01:49:55.560 had like you know, explosives and stuff like there's you know, 1606 01:49:56.239 --> 01:49:59.520 the reason they're in Beijing is because Chinese intelligence allowed 1607 01:49:59.560 --> 01:50:04.520 them to there. Yeah, they're in Chanman Square is because 1608 01:50:05.039 --> 01:50:08.600 that was part of the false flag. And so immediately 1609 01:50:09.479 --> 01:50:11.680 they do that and they're like, oh, China's like we're 1610 01:50:11.800 --> 01:50:15.159 victim of terrorism. You know, wigers are fleeing off into Shiria. 1611 01:50:16.279 --> 01:50:21.119 You know, we have a terrorism threat. Yeah, still is 1612 01:50:21.159 --> 01:50:22.399 not believable enough. 1613 01:50:23.000 --> 01:50:24.720 I was in DC at that time as a matter 1614 01:50:24.720 --> 01:50:26.479 of fact, So I was stationed in Washington, d C. 1615 01:50:26.600 --> 01:50:29.159 From twenty ten to twenty fourteen. I was there in 1616 01:50:29.199 --> 01:50:32.159 twenty twelve when Jijuping came to d C. And then 1617 01:50:32.199 --> 01:50:35.239 I remember hearing about the Tiannaman Square situation in twenty 1618 01:50:35.279 --> 01:50:39.920 thirteen and me being a conspiracy hit. I'm always referencing 1619 01:50:39.920 --> 01:50:43.239 Tianaman Square one point zero, and then you'll still have 1620 01:50:43.279 --> 01:50:45.199 people to this day it's like, yeah, it wasn't really 1621 01:50:45.239 --> 01:50:47.680 a mass sacre like people say it was, you know, 1622 01:50:47.800 --> 01:50:50.720 some college kids, but like nobody really got arrested, nobody 1623 01:50:50.760 --> 01:50:52.880 really got shot. And I'm like, dude, there were piles 1624 01:50:52.880 --> 01:50:56.239 of bodies. They rolled tanks over the bodies. Yeah, I 1625 01:50:56.239 --> 01:50:59.399 don't really believe that. It's like, so you believe the 1626 01:50:59.399 --> 01:51:03.720 word of the CEA EP over eyewitnesses, Well, how accurate 1627 01:51:03.720 --> 01:51:06.840 are these eyewitnesses? How do you know that's not the propaganda? 1628 01:51:06.880 --> 01:51:10.159 It's like, sure, dude, anything to side with China. For 1629 01:51:10.239 --> 01:51:13.119 some reason, people go with that narrative. It's crazy. 1630 01:51:13.680 --> 01:51:16.279 They're very effective. I mean the Chinese are very effective 1631 01:51:16.319 --> 01:51:19.399 and popping out a lot of you know, propaganda narratives 1632 01:51:20.399 --> 01:51:24.039 on nas scale. So that's that's that's one thing that 1633 01:51:24.439 --> 01:51:30.399 they're actually unfortunately succeeding in. So that was the Chinese 1634 01:51:30.399 --> 01:51:35.960 fall flag because there's no way logistically, there's no way 1635 01:51:36.000 --> 01:51:41.680 that vigers can travel four thousand kilometers, let alone by 1636 01:51:41.800 --> 01:51:45.920 car from East Turkistan to Beijing and enter with a 1637 01:51:46.079 --> 01:51:49.640 Shinjan license plate into the heart of Tiama Square. There's 1638 01:51:49.680 --> 01:51:52.960 no way, especially when you have to stop for gas 1639 01:51:53.000 --> 01:51:56.479 all these different things and you have you know, you 1640 01:51:56.560 --> 01:51:59.319 have explosives in the car, like what you know. 1641 01:51:59.560 --> 01:52:01.760 No way, I mean not even that. I feel like that, 1642 01:52:01.840 --> 01:52:04.119 and I don't know how it is in China, never been, 1643 01:52:04.600 --> 01:52:06.199 but I feel like you pretty much have to show 1644 01:52:06.239 --> 01:52:08.560 your papers or show your driver's license or whatever their 1645 01:52:08.640 --> 01:52:11.960 version of your identification is from province to province or 1646 01:52:11.960 --> 01:52:13.880 state to state or whatever they call their sections. 1647 01:52:14.119 --> 01:52:20.560 By twenty ten, the security state had already been established 1648 01:52:20.560 --> 01:52:24.800 to where you can't go from if you're in East Turkistan, 1649 01:52:24.920 --> 01:52:27.920 you can't go from this city to the next city 1650 01:52:28.159 --> 01:52:31.239 without hitting a checkpoint. Right they search the hell out 1651 01:52:31.279 --> 01:52:34.840 of your car, like literally, they you know, check everything 1652 01:52:34.880 --> 01:52:37.119 in your car, They check you, they check your ID. 1653 01:52:37.720 --> 01:52:41.000 You can't even buy gas. The amount of gas that 1654 01:52:41.039 --> 01:52:44.119 you're allowed to buy. You have to you have to 1655 01:52:44.119 --> 01:52:47.560 show your national ID card and they write down how 1656 01:52:47.640 --> 01:52:49.039 much gas you're allowed to buy. 1657 01:52:49.279 --> 01:52:51.239 And that's in China proper too. That's not just an 1658 01:52:51.279 --> 01:52:53.359 East Turkestan, correct, that's all over the country. 1659 01:52:53.760 --> 01:52:56.279 This is special. Now, this is in the East Turkistan. 1660 01:52:56.279 --> 01:52:59.119 I don't go about China, but this is in East Turkistan. 1661 01:53:00.239 --> 01:53:03.920 Matches were banned an East Turkustan. You can't even buy 1662 01:53:03.960 --> 01:53:06.800 matches because China is paranoid that wiggers are going to 1663 01:53:06.920 --> 01:53:10.640 use the tips to create explosives. So how are you 1664 01:53:11.119 --> 01:53:15.279 able to do this? You know? Is one thing? You know, 1665 01:53:15.520 --> 01:53:17.000 and travel, That's what I'm saying. 1666 01:53:17.079 --> 01:53:19.560 If you've got to show your driver's license or whatever 1667 01:53:19.600 --> 01:53:23.159 the version of their credentials are. There's no way that somebody, 1668 01:53:23.279 --> 01:53:26.800 even one hundred miles outside of Beijing, he's gonna see 1669 01:53:26.840 --> 01:53:30.520 somebody with an East Turkestan paperwork and be like, huh, yeah, 1670 01:53:30.640 --> 01:53:32.720 nothing to see here, You're all good. There's no way. 1671 01:53:32.880 --> 01:53:37.000 Yeah, they won't even a lot like hotels, not just 1672 01:53:37.039 --> 01:53:41.000 in East Turkistan, but across Anast Turkistan, if you're not 1673 01:53:41.119 --> 01:53:45.560 from that town, they'll they'll immediately, you know, call the 1674 01:53:45.640 --> 01:53:51.439 Public Security Bureau or the local MSS bureau to interrogate 1675 01:53:51.520 --> 01:53:54.720 you and then approve your stay in the hotel. In 1676 01:53:54.800 --> 01:53:58.640 many parts of China they refuse to give hotels to 1677 01:53:58.680 --> 01:54:01.800 anyone that has you know, an ID from you know, 1678 01:54:01.880 --> 01:54:05.279 so called Shinjong. So if you're if you're someone who's 1679 01:54:05.319 --> 01:54:09.199 listed from Shinjong, you can't even find anything checkpoints. You know, 1680 01:54:09.399 --> 01:54:12.079 you'd have to cross dozens of checkpoints to go from 1681 01:54:12.159 --> 01:54:19.239 East Kistan to Beijing. So that's one thing. Then in April, no, 1682 01:54:19.359 --> 01:54:24.319 in March of twenty fourteen, because again what route is 1683 01:54:24.399 --> 01:54:29.199 China using. It's using Vietnam, Thailand to let these wigers out, 1684 01:54:29.720 --> 01:54:35.079 So obviously those countries own it, like Thailand's Vietnam's intelligence 1685 01:54:35.159 --> 01:54:36.479 is going to be like, what the hell is wrong? 1686 01:54:36.760 --> 01:54:40.800 You know, how are these weavers being smuggled out? So 1687 01:54:41.119 --> 01:54:45.640 to make this operation look like it's something else, that 1688 01:54:45.680 --> 01:54:48.640 the eigers are just doing this by themselves, that they're 1689 01:54:48.800 --> 01:54:52.640 mysteriously you know, they're traveling thousands of miles somehow magically 1690 01:54:52.640 --> 01:54:56.199 evading dozens of checkpoints and ending up in you know, 1691 01:54:56.399 --> 01:55:01.880 Guangdong and you know the border areas with Thailand in Vietnam. 1692 01:55:02.239 --> 01:55:06.720 So once this is happening because there are reports, especially 1693 01:55:06.800 --> 01:55:11.920 there was an incident where Taiwanese, uh not Taiwanese, Vietnamese 1694 01:55:12.319 --> 01:55:15.680 border guards you know, shot some wigurs trying to come 1695 01:55:15.720 --> 01:55:19.600 into Vietnam. So China's like, oh, shaid, our operation is 1696 01:55:19.640 --> 01:55:23.399 about to be ruined, So what do we do? False flag? 1697 01:55:23.640 --> 01:55:25.720 They dress up, you know, they have a bunch of 1698 01:55:25.720 --> 01:55:29.479 people dressed up in black cloth carrying a black Islamic 1699 01:55:29.520 --> 01:55:32.720 flag engaging in a knife attack at a train station. 1700 01:55:33.359 --> 01:55:37.359 And immediately this is done by viager terrorists. This was 1701 01:55:37.399 --> 01:55:40.960 their ji hot flag. They were going to you know, jihad, 1702 01:55:41.000 --> 01:55:46.319 et cetera. That's still not enough, the national community is 1703 01:55:46.319 --> 01:55:51.640 still skeptical. Hijinping travels to East Takistan in April twenty 1704 01:55:51.680 --> 01:55:54.039 eighth of twenty fourteen, and this is where he gives 1705 01:55:54.079 --> 01:55:58.880 that famous speech. Absolutely, show no mercy, Lock up those 1706 01:55:58.880 --> 01:56:01.560 who need to be locked up, Uproot them, root and 1707 01:56:01.680 --> 01:56:04.920 branch and destroy them. This is this is where he 1708 01:56:04.920 --> 01:56:10.279 gives that eighteen yeah to twenty fourteen, twenty fourteen fourteen 1709 01:56:10.600 --> 01:56:12.479 April twenty eighth of twenty fourteen. 1710 01:56:12.560 --> 01:56:16.680 Gotcha, So this is when the real movement into the 1711 01:56:16.720 --> 01:56:21.640 concentration camps and the mass arrests started really taking place. 1712 01:56:22.119 --> 01:56:24.920 Yeah, it's it's about it's about to start. They just 1713 01:56:25.000 --> 01:56:29.920 need that final official justification, that final last pieces of 1714 01:56:29.960 --> 01:56:35.399 their false flags. So Hijin p makes these statements, He 1715 01:56:35.520 --> 01:56:38.640 visits and says, this is the front line on the 1716 01:56:38.680 --> 01:56:45.520 war on terrorism, this is where we're going to fight terrorism. Then, conveniently, 1717 01:56:46.159 --> 01:56:48.920 two days later, after his tour is done, after he's 1718 01:56:48.960 --> 01:56:53.279 given all his special orders, prepared everything, he hops on 1719 01:56:53.319 --> 01:56:56.520 the plate plane to Beijing. Less than two hours after 1720 01:56:56.560 --> 01:57:03.960 his plane takes off, a suitcase bombing happens at the 1721 01:57:04.039 --> 01:57:08.600 train station in the room chie and immediately China's like, 1722 01:57:09.199 --> 01:57:12.399 this was done by we were terrorists. And the video 1723 01:57:12.800 --> 01:57:15.520 that they show is just some persons you can't even 1724 01:57:15.520 --> 01:57:18.720 see their face, just walking in with a suitcase, leaving it, 1725 01:57:18.840 --> 01:57:21.680 walking out, so you don't know who the person is. 1726 01:57:22.000 --> 01:57:27.159 Could be a Chinese intelligence officer planning it leaving. Boom 1727 01:57:27.319 --> 01:57:30.239 explosion happens, and China's like, this is we You're terrorists 1728 01:57:30.319 --> 01:57:35.800 doing it clearly, And then the tip which has been 1729 01:57:35.840 --> 01:57:41.800 holding Afghanistan and Syria. After the Syrian conflict erupted, they 1730 01:57:41.920 --> 01:57:47.840 released a video claiming responsibility, saying, yes, we claimed responsibility 1731 01:57:47.880 --> 01:57:52.840 for that, we did it. That's still not enough because 1732 01:57:52.880 --> 01:57:55.920 a lot of Western experts are like, this doesn't make 1733 01:57:55.960 --> 01:57:59.880 any sense. Why the hell, Like, especially in the last 1734 01:58:00.079 --> 01:58:04.479 year compared to then the history of this conflict, Why 1735 01:58:04.600 --> 01:58:08.119 are weakers all of a sudden, you know, carrying out 1736 01:58:08.199 --> 01:58:12.960 indiscriminate attacks, knowing that this is what would benefit China, 1737 01:58:14.039 --> 01:58:17.359 knowing that it would undermine their cause. Why would they 1738 01:58:17.359 --> 01:58:20.039 do this? Like prior to that they would always focus on, 1739 01:58:20.199 --> 01:58:23.720 you know, Chinese military and security targets. Why is this 1740 01:58:23.880 --> 01:58:26.640 all of a sudden happening? And so you know they 1741 01:58:26.680 --> 01:58:33.439 were like this, there's something off here, still skeptical. So 1742 01:58:34.279 --> 01:58:37.479 in the middle of May, they carry out another false 1743 01:58:37.520 --> 01:58:43.840 flag bombing, this time from a suv. Again, nobody knows 1744 01:58:43.880 --> 01:58:48.199 who dropped the bombs, who threw out the bombs. It 1745 01:58:48.439 --> 01:58:52.199 just happened at a vegetable market. Again only you know, 1746 01:58:52.239 --> 01:58:55.840 in the area, in the vegetable market area in the 1747 01:58:55.840 --> 01:59:01.800 predominantly Chinese to part of town. And then immediately after that, 1748 01:59:01.880 --> 01:59:05.439 China is like, we have a terrorism problem. We have 1749 01:59:05.560 --> 01:59:08.279 to strike hard against terrorism, and they launched the so 1750 01:59:08.399 --> 01:59:12.119 called People's War on Terror. That's the official euphemism for 1751 01:59:12.199 --> 01:59:16.359 the ongoing genocide. And China's own white paper from September 1752 01:59:16.359 --> 01:59:20.399 twenty twenty stated because they denied that they were committing 1753 01:59:20.439 --> 01:59:22.600 you know, they denied that they were sending people to 1754 01:59:22.640 --> 01:59:26.439 concentration camps, et cetera. But by twenty nineteen, when the 1755 01:59:26.439 --> 01:59:29.760 world's got everything and we could literally see those camps 1756 01:59:30.279 --> 01:59:34.039 on satellite imagery from Google Earth, China's like, oh, well, 1757 01:59:34.039 --> 01:59:37.880 we sent one point twenty nine million people every year 1758 01:59:38.000 --> 01:59:41.560 starting in twenty fourteen until the end of twenty nineteen 1759 01:59:42.000 --> 01:59:46.800 to vocational training and re education centers. But now they've graduated, 1760 01:59:46.880 --> 01:59:49.840 they've they've found most of them graduated, and they found jobs. 1761 01:59:50.199 --> 01:59:51.479 The forced labor factories. 1762 01:59:52.199 --> 01:59:55.640 The concentration camps were called vocational education. 1763 01:59:56.760 --> 02:00:01.079 Yeah, wow. Initially they called them re educateation centers. 1764 02:00:01.199 --> 02:00:03.159 I feel like, yeah, that's a little more in line 1765 02:00:03.199 --> 02:00:05.640 with the communist propaganda of things. 1766 02:00:05.680 --> 02:00:08.800 Yeah, and then they're like, oh no, this is you know, 1767 02:00:08.880 --> 02:00:11.760 calling it re education centers makes it kind of seem 1768 02:00:11.920 --> 02:00:15.880 a little bit too Orwellian Orwellian, so let's call them 1769 02:00:16.079 --> 02:00:20.119 vocational training. We're providing these people with job training and 1770 02:00:20.239 --> 02:00:25.359 language skills. We're you know, helping them find jobs. That's 1771 02:00:25.399 --> 02:00:26.520 what we're training them for. 1772 02:00:26.720 --> 02:00:26.960 Wow. 1773 02:00:27.000 --> 02:00:33.079 So between twenty fourteen until twenty sixteen, the international community 1774 02:00:33.199 --> 02:00:36.399 didn't really until twenty seventeen, the international community didn't do 1775 02:00:36.439 --> 02:00:42.000 anything because again China kept pointing to the Jahabists in Syria, 1776 02:00:44.199 --> 02:00:47.119 in Afghanistan. You know, it's false flying Jahadas. Many of 1777 02:00:47.159 --> 02:00:52.479 those waters themselves are were lured there, like those wars. 1778 02:00:52.520 --> 02:00:54.920 Like I want to say all of them are Chinese 1779 02:00:55.079 --> 02:00:59.239 intelligence operatives or assets. Many of them, I believe we're 1780 02:00:59.359 --> 02:01:04.000 just you know, average naive US who legitimately thought that 1781 02:01:04.079 --> 02:01:06.600 you know, because they were getting they went on promises 1782 02:01:06.680 --> 02:01:11.079 that we're sending you out so you can receive training 1783 02:01:11.119 --> 02:01:13.439 and you will come back one day to liberate East Rakistan. 1784 02:01:13.680 --> 02:01:17.079 That was the narrative that they were fed. But of 1785 02:01:17.119 --> 02:01:21.439 course when they went to Syria, they were decimated. And 1786 02:01:21.560 --> 02:01:25.920 China just keeps their existence only for propaganda because every 1787 02:01:25.960 --> 02:01:29.920 time to this day, the TIP has never carried out 1788 02:01:29.960 --> 02:01:34.479 any actual attacks against Chinese military or security personnel to 1789 02:01:34.520 --> 02:01:35.920 this day, not one. 1790 02:01:36.760 --> 02:01:40.920 So what is the and I know that this information 1791 02:01:41.079 --> 02:01:44.279 is going to be very difficult to even try to 1792 02:01:44.439 --> 02:01:48.279 ballpark range it, right, but we're talking about genocide on 1793 02:01:48.560 --> 02:01:52.159 your people. If you had to guess, what is the 1794 02:01:52.279 --> 02:01:56.399 number of murders that have been committed against the Wiger 1795 02:01:56.479 --> 02:02:02.039 Muslims in China, in East Turkey, Orkistan as of right now, 1796 02:02:02.199 --> 02:02:04.920 at least in the last decade, right, If you're saying 1797 02:02:04.920 --> 02:02:08.159 that like one point five one point nine million per year, 1798 02:02:08.199 --> 02:02:10.720 you said was going to these concentration against. 1799 02:02:11.039 --> 02:02:14.000 Nine million people or which is roughly seven point eight 1800 02:02:14.000 --> 02:02:19.000 million people over the course of you know, six years, and. 1801 02:02:19.000 --> 02:02:22.439 Were these people going to these camps and never coming out? 1802 02:02:23.319 --> 02:02:26.720 Many have never come out. In fact, the ones that 1803 02:02:26.760 --> 02:02:30.720 they are releasing out many people, especially after the international 1804 02:02:30.720 --> 02:02:35.920 community began you know taking you know, paying attention to 1805 02:02:35.960 --> 02:02:39.199 this issue, especially post twenty nineteen. Really in twenty twenty, 1806 02:02:40.159 --> 02:02:43.960 China began to let some people out. But those people 1807 02:02:44.000 --> 02:02:47.439 that are coming out are in a vegetative state and 1808 02:02:47.479 --> 02:02:52.079 they're dying within like a week absolutely released. And China's like, 1809 02:02:52.159 --> 02:02:54.640 oh no, you know, they died there on their own, 1810 02:02:54.880 --> 02:02:57.279 or they died from some disease. It's not us. We 1811 02:02:57.319 --> 02:02:58.760 didn't we didn't kill them. 1812 02:02:58.960 --> 02:03:02.000 So we were talking about legitly millions of people being 1813 02:03:02.119 --> 02:03:05.119 murdered in the last twenty years, give or to not 1814 02:03:05.199 --> 02:03:08.960 even you said it started in twenty twenty fourteen and 1815 02:03:09.000 --> 02:03:12.880 now so in eleven years, give or take. I mean, 1816 02:03:13.159 --> 02:03:14.760 is six million a low number. 1817 02:03:16.520 --> 02:03:19.800 It's really hard to say. I don't really know how 1818 02:03:19.840 --> 02:03:22.920 many million of our people have been killed. Sure, but 1819 02:03:24.039 --> 02:03:26.920 what we do know like some numbers. I'll give you 1820 02:03:26.960 --> 02:03:29.920 some numbers that are facts. Kind of his own white 1821 02:03:29.920 --> 02:03:34.079 paper stated roughly seven point eight million people were sent 1822 02:03:34.319 --> 02:03:40.319 to so called vocational re education or vocational training between 1823 02:03:40.359 --> 02:03:45.760 twenty fourteen to twenty nineteen. China's own government states that 1824 02:03:45.880 --> 02:03:50.079 they three and a half million people so called surplus labor, 1825 02:03:50.159 --> 02:03:54.399 have been given jobs. And these are the that are 1826 02:03:54.439 --> 02:03:57.359 being enslaved forced labor. Three and a half million of 1827 02:03:57.399 --> 02:04:00.000 them are being a slave. This is the Chinese governm. 1828 02:04:00.119 --> 02:04:05.640 It's own data, China's own judicial data. We're not talking 1829 02:04:05.680 --> 02:04:09.600 about the extra judicial, because all of these concentration camps 1830 02:04:09.640 --> 02:04:16.359 are extra judicial. China's own judicial records show that five 1831 02:04:16.439 --> 02:04:20.680 hundred seventy eight five hundred wigers have been given prison 1832 02:04:20.760 --> 02:04:25.560 sentence to up to life. And so you might think 1833 02:04:25.600 --> 02:04:28.000 that's not a whole lot, like like, let me put 1834 02:04:28.000 --> 02:04:31.680 this in perspective for you. Five hundred and seventy eight thousand, 1835 02:04:31.720 --> 02:04:35.640 five hundred wiguers we Wars, the whole of East t 1836 02:04:35.760 --> 02:04:38.520 kuist On, China claims, doesn't even make up two percent 1837 02:04:38.640 --> 02:04:41.600 of the total population of all the areas under the 1838 02:04:41.600 --> 02:04:47.199 control of the PRC. China's judicial data shows there's roughly 1839 02:04:47.239 --> 02:04:55.920 one point five million prisoners in China that are judicially imprisoned. 1840 02:04:55.520 --> 02:04:58.159 So a third of them, so over. 1841 02:04:58.000 --> 02:05:01.279 Thirty three percent of them are are just your wars 1842 02:05:01.920 --> 02:05:06.479 wo the ones that have been officially sentenced quite not 1843 02:05:06.560 --> 02:05:10.600 even making two percent of that population. So we have 1844 02:05:10.680 --> 02:05:16.479 the highest incarceration rate in the world in terms of 1845 02:05:16.479 --> 02:05:20.560 a specific people of population. There's nothing you can't find 1846 02:05:20.600 --> 02:05:24.199 any other people or any other group that is as 1847 02:05:25.520 --> 02:05:30.039 highly incarcerated as the Wars. So that's that. Then, China's 1848 02:05:30.119 --> 02:05:36.239 own state media reported that between twenty sixteen and twenty seventeen, 1849 02:05:36.800 --> 02:05:40.439 under the guise of free healthcare checks for all programmed, 1850 02:05:40.920 --> 02:05:45.720 the Chinese government collected the DNA samples, voice prints, and 1851 02:05:45.800 --> 02:05:50.520 retina scans of thirty six million people so called ethnic minorities, 1852 02:05:50.560 --> 02:05:54.000 meaning those who are not Chinese. The Chinese labeled all 1853 02:05:54.079 --> 02:05:58.479 nine Chinese peoples as ethnic minorities in East Turkistan between 1854 02:05:58.479 --> 02:06:01.279 the ages of twelve and sixty five, so thirty six 1855 02:06:01.319 --> 02:06:03.920 million people between the ages of total sixty five, their 1856 02:06:04.000 --> 02:06:07.640 voice prints, DNA scans, retin scans, the DNA samples, retinan 1857 02:06:07.680 --> 02:06:09.920 scans have been collected. What I was trying to do 1858 02:06:09.960 --> 02:06:14.039 it we'll come into that in a little bit. On 1859 02:06:14.119 --> 02:06:18.119 top of that, the Chinese government carried their own records. 1860 02:06:18.159 --> 02:06:23.279 Health records shows that they carried out the forced sterilization 1861 02:06:23.800 --> 02:06:27.439 of over three hundred thousand women. We wore another Turkic 1862 02:06:27.479 --> 02:06:33.199 women whoa again that that might seem like a small number. 1863 02:06:34.119 --> 02:06:39.279 Then their own state media also stated that since nineteen 1864 02:06:39.319 --> 02:06:49.079 eighty nine when they implemented the one child policy, so 1865 02:06:49.199 --> 02:06:52.119 once they started implementing that up until two thousand and nine, 1866 02:06:52.680 --> 02:06:55.079 So from nineteen eighty nine up until two thousand and nine, 1867 02:06:55.079 --> 02:06:59.239 what's that. Yeah, during that thirty years, they said that 1868 02:06:59.319 --> 02:07:04.359 they prove empted UH three point seven million illegal births 1869 02:07:04.800 --> 02:07:08.600 amongst the ethnic minority populations in so called Chinjong in 1870 02:07:08.640 --> 02:07:12.239 each Takistan, So three point seven millions of our babies 1871 02:07:12.520 --> 02:07:16.399 were forcibly aborted or killed over the course of thirty 1872 02:07:16.479 --> 02:07:21.560 years after two thousand and nine. We don't know. I 1873 02:07:21.600 --> 02:07:25.880 would I would say, based on the previous data, I 1874 02:07:25.920 --> 02:07:30.039 would say, add another million babies that have been potentially 1875 02:07:30.119 --> 02:07:31.359 forcibly aborted. 1876 02:07:31.560 --> 02:07:34.159 So how did they how did they get it? How 1877 02:07:34.199 --> 02:07:34.960 do they do this? 1878 02:07:35.079 --> 02:07:35.239 Though? 1879 02:07:35.399 --> 02:07:37.800 Like did they like when they went into checks, they 1880 02:07:37.840 --> 02:07:41.640 were giving them something to end up, you know, some 1881 02:07:41.680 --> 02:07:43.760 type of medication or like a d n C. 1882 02:07:44.560 --> 02:07:48.560 Or there they would they would cut them out. This 1883 02:07:48.680 --> 02:07:51.439 is not like you know over here where they give 1884 02:07:51.479 --> 02:07:54.199 you a medication and be like all right, boy, Like 1885 02:07:54.640 --> 02:07:58.880 babies that are near full term being aborted forcibly aborted, 1886 02:07:59.680 --> 02:08:03.880 and abortion in our religion is actually illegal, like they're 1887 02:08:03.960 --> 02:08:07.800 only talking you can. I don't think there's even like 1888 02:08:08.239 --> 02:08:11.840 the only time that I don't think they're from our religion. 1889 02:08:11.840 --> 02:08:17.039 I don't think there's any justification to where abortion is legal. 1890 02:08:17.119 --> 02:08:20.880 I mean, I think it would have to be like potentially. 1891 02:08:20.760 --> 02:08:23.119 In that case. Honestly, I don't even think in Islam 1892 02:08:23.439 --> 02:08:25.680 life or death, like yo, if mom dies with the baby, 1893 02:08:25.760 --> 02:08:27.279 then like that's just the will of a lat But 1894 02:08:27.399 --> 02:08:32.560 like it would have to be such a vast wild 1895 02:08:32.640 --> 02:08:35.560 set of circumstances to where that would be seen as okay, 1896 02:08:36.319 --> 02:08:37.399 so how. 1897 02:08:37.359 --> 02:08:39.800 Is the un not gotten involved whatsoever? 1898 02:08:39.960 --> 02:08:46.359 We'll come in through that. Okay. So then so that's 1899 02:08:46.399 --> 02:08:49.720 the babies. So after two thousand and nine, I would estimate, 1900 02:08:50.079 --> 02:08:53.199 I would estimate, conservative estimate, maybe a million other babies 1901 02:08:53.359 --> 02:08:55.640 have been aborted since two thousand and nine. 1902 02:08:55.800 --> 02:08:57.279 So we are as of right now, just for the 1903 02:08:57.359 --> 02:09:01.920 numbers we've heard low estimates. Being conservative, we're talking probably 1904 02:09:02.000 --> 02:09:04.439 over ten million murders, and in this case, I would 1905 02:09:04.479 --> 02:09:08.359 call those abortions murders over ten million murders. 1906 02:09:07.960 --> 02:09:09.800 More like around twelve million at least. 1907 02:09:09.960 --> 02:09:12.359 Well, when he said the concentration camps, he said seven 1908 02:09:12.399 --> 02:09:16.159 point something, But then some have been released, so I'm 1909 02:09:16.159 --> 02:09:19.399 being conservative and just guesstimating six million have been murdered 1910 02:09:19.439 --> 02:09:21.960 in the concentration camps. That's probably low. 1911 02:09:22.119 --> 02:09:26.000 So wow, so there's not Then we go back to 1912 02:09:26.079 --> 02:09:29.399 that number they collect. Remember they collected the DNA samples, 1913 02:09:29.479 --> 02:09:32.199 voice prints, and retless cans of thirty six million people. 1914 02:09:32.319 --> 02:09:37.119 Why are they doing that? Well, there's two reasons. Well, no, 1915 02:09:37.399 --> 02:09:39.720 it's more than notorious than that. There's two reasons. In 1916 02:09:39.760 --> 02:09:44.239 two thousand and eight, Unfortunately, the ni H was part 1917 02:09:44.279 --> 02:09:47.000 of this project. Remember I said they collect they studied 1918 02:09:47.039 --> 02:09:52.279 the DNA, the DNAs of Wigers over a thousand samples, 1919 02:09:52.680 --> 02:09:58.359 and they were looking for, you know, genetic abnormalities or 1920 02:09:58.399 --> 02:10:03.199 what you know, common these most you know what, genetic 1921 02:10:03.399 --> 02:10:09.039 or health problems, most weak shared. So one study found 1922 02:10:09.079 --> 02:10:14.520 that about seventy five percent of your wars out of 1923 02:10:14.560 --> 02:10:19.119 the thousand and one, four hundred plus samples, all had 1924 02:10:19.159 --> 02:10:25.479 one problem, one same problem. They had weak livers. They 1925 02:10:25.479 --> 02:10:32.399 had livers. So the medication that treats tuberculosis, and even 1926 02:10:32.479 --> 02:10:36.199 at that time point, we have the highest TB rates 1927 02:10:36.239 --> 02:10:41.039 in the whole of the PRC tuberculosis rates. So the 1928 02:10:41.119 --> 02:10:45.560 medication that treats tuberculosis, you give it normally, it's supposed 1929 02:10:45.600 --> 02:10:47.920 to treat you. But if you keep giving it to 1930 02:10:47.960 --> 02:10:51.960 someone who has a weak liver, that's gonna cause liver 1931 02:10:52.000 --> 02:10:53.359 failure and they're gonna die. 1932 02:10:54.399 --> 02:10:55.359 So they have been. 1933 02:10:56.720 --> 02:10:58.079 They were very strategic with it. 1934 02:10:58.159 --> 02:11:00.600 I was wondering, I've been wondering since the if they're 1935 02:11:00.640 --> 02:11:02.600 going to use your DNA against you. 1936 02:11:03.079 --> 02:11:08.399 Yes, so China. Actually it's in two thousand and sixteen 1937 02:11:08.479 --> 02:11:12.640 or seventeen. It's by warfare strategy states that they have 1938 02:11:13.520 --> 02:11:17.720 capabilities to engage in ethnic specific genetic attacks against its enemies. 1939 02:11:17.960 --> 02:11:22.199 So that's you know, who was China's biggest enemies at 1940 02:11:22.199 --> 02:11:25.920 that point right right now, it's East tar kistanis So 1941 02:11:25.960 --> 02:11:30.119 there's that. Then this is one part the tuberculosis. So 1942 02:11:30.159 --> 02:11:35.279 there have been confirmed deaths of people in the concentration camps, 1943 02:11:35.880 --> 02:11:41.079 you know, from tuberculosis. In one camp alone, over a 1944 02:11:41.119 --> 02:11:46.159 period like a period of like six months, there was 1945 02:11:46.439 --> 02:11:48.800 over two hundred deaths or one hundred and fifty deaths 1946 02:11:48.800 --> 02:11:52.560 in one camp alone. And no, there's fourteen hundred concentration 1947 02:11:52.720 --> 02:11:56.760 camps or vocational training centers or re education centers across 1948 02:11:56.760 --> 02:11:57.159 the East tra. 1949 02:11:57.119 --> 02:12:01.279 Kistan, fourteen hundred concentration camps in East Turkestan. 1950 02:12:01.800 --> 02:12:07.399 Yeah, so in one camp alone, over a six month period, 1951 02:12:07.439 --> 02:12:10.640 one hundred and fifty people died and their official deaths 1952 02:12:10.720 --> 02:12:14.199 are being reported as they die from TB and it 1953 02:12:14.239 --> 02:12:16.479 may be true that they die from TV because again, 1954 02:12:17.119 --> 02:12:22.159 when you the conditions in these concentration campuses, you have 1955 02:12:23.159 --> 02:12:28.560 twenty thirty people crouched into one small space, no sanitation, 1956 02:12:30.039 --> 02:12:37.600 you know, mal nourishment constant, you know, indoctrination torture. If 1957 02:12:37.640 --> 02:12:41.680 one person has tv TB is are very easy to catch. 1958 02:12:41.840 --> 02:12:47.159 You know, it spreads like wildfire. It's I mean, it's strap, its. 1959 02:12:46.039 --> 02:12:49.479 Coughing, and China can claim, oh, we're you know, we're 1960 02:12:50.119 --> 02:12:53.239 you know, health people medication, but. 1961 02:12:53.720 --> 02:12:56.359 Which is in turn killing them, Yeah. 1962 02:12:56.039 --> 02:13:01.640 In turn killing them, so that's yeah. Second, the organ 1963 02:13:02.000 --> 02:13:09.239 transplant or organ harvesting industry in China skyrocketed after at 1964 02:13:09.239 --> 02:13:13.439 the same time that this genocide started, So prior to 1965 02:13:13.520 --> 02:13:18.439 twenty fourteen, there is about five six thousand organ transplants 1966 02:13:18.479 --> 02:13:24.119 reported in China per year starting in twenty fourteen, skyrocket 1967 02:13:24.199 --> 02:13:27.119 to over fifty thousand. By twenty seventeen, it was over 1968 02:13:27.600 --> 02:13:31.640 estimates are saying around one hundred thousand per year, yeah, 1969 02:13:31.800 --> 02:13:36.720 per year. And many of these people, like wealthy Arabs 1970 02:13:36.720 --> 02:13:39.760 from the Middle East and other Muslim countries, are traveling 1971 02:13:39.800 --> 02:13:44.439 to China to buy halal organs, meaning organs from a 1972 02:13:44.520 --> 02:13:48.119 Muslim who hasn't you know, consumed pork alcoholic central Where 1973 02:13:48.159 --> 02:13:49.119 else are they going to get that? 1974 02:13:49.720 --> 02:13:53.279 I never even thought about the halal organ market, although 1975 02:13:53.279 --> 02:13:55.840 that it makes perfect sense now that I've heard it 1976 02:13:55.920 --> 02:13:58.239 laid out like that. But Honestly, you would think that 1977 02:13:58.319 --> 02:14:02.159 somebody that is potentially on their deathbed wouldn't really care 1978 02:14:02.199 --> 02:14:04.319 where the organ came from as long as it was healthy. 1979 02:14:04.479 --> 02:14:06.239 And I guess for some that would be the case. 1980 02:14:06.239 --> 02:14:09.439 But when you have these wealthy oil tycoon Arabs from 1981 02:14:09.520 --> 02:14:11.920 all over the Middle East, they can afford to make 1982 02:14:11.960 --> 02:14:14.960 sure that it is a halal organ. So, of course, 1983 02:14:15.000 --> 02:14:18.600 if you're in that market and China has this massive 1984 02:14:19.680 --> 02:14:23.479 situation on their hands, oh my god. And we've talked 1985 02:14:23.479 --> 02:14:27.319 about that so many times, the Chinese organ harvesting trade 1986 02:14:27.359 --> 02:14:30.359 and black market organ sales coming out of China, it 1987 02:14:30.399 --> 02:14:33.720 makes perfect sense that that's skyrocketed around the time of 1988 02:14:33.760 --> 02:14:36.399 the Wakers. And that's again you're talking about organ transplants 1989 02:14:36.399 --> 02:14:41.119 and organ shipment in the market itself above board. This 1990 02:14:41.239 --> 02:14:44.399 has nothing to do with the underground black market organ 1991 02:14:44.439 --> 02:14:47.439 trade that there is happening obviously throughout this country. 1992 02:14:48.439 --> 02:14:50.840 I wonder if this is where those videos came from 1993 02:14:51.039 --> 02:14:51.800 of the people. 1994 02:14:51.520 --> 02:14:56.239 Being all hacked up, honestly. Yeah, And there's videos that 1995 02:14:56.279 --> 02:14:58.560 are out there of people and there are some people 1996 02:14:58.560 --> 02:15:00.439 that believe that they might be doing the to do 1997 02:15:00.479 --> 02:15:02.239 like a soylent green type of things. 1998 02:15:02.640 --> 02:15:04.960 Wondering if the meat. 1999 02:15:05.479 --> 02:15:07.960 The muscle tissue from this humans, is this being ground 2000 02:15:08.039 --> 02:15:10.039 up and used this food to feed China, because we've 2001 02:15:10.039 --> 02:15:11.960 heard a lot of reports of that being done. 2002 02:15:12.319 --> 02:15:15.000 I honestly don't know about that, but we know for 2003 02:15:15.079 --> 02:15:18.520 sure that our people are being killed, as you know, 2004 02:15:18.760 --> 02:15:21.680 for their organs. That's that's that's a proven fact. Because 2005 02:15:22.279 --> 02:15:26.399 in many of the airports in East Turkistan, especially the 2006 02:15:26.439 --> 02:15:30.640 ones in the south closest to the camps, there are 2007 02:15:30.840 --> 02:15:35.279 you can find special lanes that's safe for organ transplants. Only. 2008 02:15:35.960 --> 02:15:39.079 You won't find this in other parts of China. You 2009 02:15:39.119 --> 02:15:42.079 won't find this, you know, in part in actual China 2010 02:15:42.119 --> 02:15:44.600 you won't find that. But in East Pakistan there's this that. 2011 02:15:45.000 --> 02:15:49.680 And then at the same time, China began expanding crematoria 2012 02:15:50.279 --> 02:15:55.760 across East Trakistan, building crematoriums. And you know, we bury 2013 02:15:55.800 --> 02:15:58.920 our dead, we like we've there's no history of us ever, 2014 02:15:59.239 --> 02:16:02.279 you know, burning are dead, like that's not something we 2015 02:16:02.399 --> 02:16:05.760 ever do or ever done in our nation's history. I 2016 02:16:05.760 --> 02:16:09.720 think as Muslims, you have to bury your dead. 2017 02:16:09.800 --> 02:16:11.399 I was gonna say, is that a Muslim rule? 2018 02:16:12.279 --> 02:16:16.520 Yeah, it's you can't. You can't, no matter what happens. 2019 02:16:16.600 --> 02:16:19.399 You have to bury the dead, even if you can't find, 2020 02:16:19.479 --> 02:16:21.319 even if it's just a leg that you can find, 2021 02:16:21.359 --> 02:16:24.039 you still have to bury that leg. That's the only 2022 02:16:24.079 --> 02:16:24.840 thing that remains. 2023 02:16:25.119 --> 02:16:28.079 So they're purposely burning you guys. Just is an actual, 2024 02:16:28.680 --> 02:16:30.680 actually way to be disgraceful. 2025 02:16:31.279 --> 02:16:36.000 Yeah. Many of these UH crematorials are located in the 2026 02:16:36.040 --> 02:16:41.680 same areas with the airports with the special lanes, and 2027 02:16:41.840 --> 02:16:45.319 many of them are right next to these concentration camps. 2028 02:16:45.840 --> 02:16:48.280 So it's literally the Nazis on repeat. 2029 02:16:48.360 --> 02:16:50.600 I was gonna say, like, this is just Nazis just 2030 02:16:50.680 --> 02:16:54.639 not being talked about. How I just don't understand how 2031 02:16:54.680 --> 02:16:58.079 this is not being able to be stopped by anybody. 2032 02:16:58.079 --> 02:17:01.159 Crimes against humanity should like should be being able to 2033 02:17:01.159 --> 02:17:03.479 step in NATO somebody. 2034 02:17:03.600 --> 02:17:05.959 They're only working off the information that they have coming 2035 02:17:06.000 --> 02:17:06.600 out of their. 2036 02:17:06.479 --> 02:17:07.639 Censoring ship everything. 2037 02:17:07.719 --> 02:17:11.840 Yeah. Yeah, it's much more complicated than that. I mean, 2038 02:17:13.559 --> 02:17:16.360 governments know the US government. 2039 02:17:16.079 --> 02:17:18.120 They just don't give a ship enough to do anything. 2040 02:17:18.799 --> 02:17:21.799 They know very well what's what's happening. 2041 02:17:21.840 --> 02:17:24.079 They try to stop it. They were just going into 2042 02:17:24.079 --> 02:17:27.200 full on open war with China, which everybody's trying to avoid. 2043 02:17:28.200 --> 02:17:32.399 Yeah, so the minerals must not be enough to worth it. 2044 02:17:32.600 --> 02:17:35.959 The minerals and the semiconductors. That's not enough from. 2045 02:17:35.799 --> 02:17:37.440 The organ harvesting alone. 2046 02:17:37.799 --> 02:17:39.040 They must be shipping it in. 2047 02:17:40.760 --> 02:17:46.159 You know. UH experts like Ethan Goodman, who are experts 2048 02:17:46.159 --> 02:17:49.479 on organ harvesting, who's you know, studied and went through 2049 02:17:49.479 --> 02:17:54.319 all the data, interview done dozens of interviews and looking 2050 02:17:54.360 --> 02:18:00.639 through China's own records. They testified UH in twenty twenty 2051 02:18:00.639 --> 02:18:05.920 four stating that at a conservative aout like a low conservative, 2052 02:18:06.479 --> 02:18:11.719 anywhere from twenty five thousand to fifty thousand between the 2053 02:18:11.760 --> 02:18:15.559 ages of eighteen to thirty are being killed every every 2054 02:18:15.639 --> 02:18:18.639 year solely for their organs. 2055 02:18:19.239 --> 02:18:19.479 Wow. 2056 02:18:20.319 --> 02:18:24.680 And he's and he stated, just since twenty fourteen till 2057 02:18:25.680 --> 02:18:31.280 twenty fifth till you know, twenty twenty four, he estimated 2058 02:18:31.319 --> 02:18:36.200 that anywhere from a quarter million again the very lowest estimate. 2059 02:18:36.200 --> 02:18:39.479 He said, it's quarter million to you know, again conservative 2060 02:18:39.799 --> 02:18:43.799 up to about half a million, we will have just 2061 02:18:43.879 --> 02:18:46.879 been killed specifically for their organs. And he says, but 2062 02:18:46.920 --> 02:18:49.600 I but again it could be much much higher because 2063 02:18:49.879 --> 02:18:54.959 again the organ transplant data shows that, you know, it 2064 02:18:55.200 --> 02:18:59.040 keeps increasing, so you know, and he's saying, like I 2065 02:18:59.600 --> 02:19:03.280 did this very conservatively, assuming that you know, China is 2066 02:19:03.319 --> 02:19:07.559 also taking organs from other prisoners, from other ethnic groups 2067 02:19:07.600 --> 02:19:12.360 and other you know, religious groups, et cetera. Sure, so 2068 02:19:12.399 --> 02:19:22.239 this is from that. And then China's owned Chinese police 2069 02:19:22.440 --> 02:19:26.600 military folks who you know later escaped and you know, 2070 02:19:26.840 --> 02:19:29.760 came to the West, some who served in those They said, 2071 02:19:29.840 --> 02:19:33.319 there are people dying, you know, they we we literally 2072 02:19:34.079 --> 02:19:36.680 kill these people there, We leave them there to die, 2073 02:19:36.799 --> 02:19:42.280 especially the men. Because again, what is China worried about population? 2074 02:19:43.440 --> 02:19:48.200 Well one population too. If war breaks out, resistance happens, 2075 02:19:48.639 --> 02:19:50.559 is gonna fight, who's going to be the main manpower? 2076 02:19:50.879 --> 02:19:55.120 So this is one thing. And they secretly transferred at 2077 02:19:55.239 --> 02:19:58.600 least half a million Uger men out of each circustan 2078 02:19:58.719 --> 02:20:02.520 to prisons ross China to hide this. So you've probably 2079 02:20:02.520 --> 02:20:07.280 seen those videos of yours. You know, we were men 2080 02:20:07.399 --> 02:20:12.239 blindfolded with their heads shaved and you know, being escorted 2081 02:20:12.280 --> 02:20:20.200 onto cattle trains by you know, Chinese Chinese police wearing 2082 02:20:20.319 --> 02:20:25.719 you know, swat uniforms. So those are indeed happening. And 2083 02:20:25.760 --> 02:20:29.879 then on top of that, the Chinese government is trying 2084 02:20:29.920 --> 02:20:35.520 to forcibly coerce our women, you know, they're forcing our 2085 02:20:35.600 --> 02:20:40.760 women to marry Chinese men. There are literally ads in 2086 02:20:40.879 --> 02:20:44.360 Chinese provinces where they are. You know, the Chinese government 2087 02:20:44.399 --> 02:20:48.600 is saying move to shin Jong and especially targeting mails, 2088 02:20:48.719 --> 02:20:52.079 we will give you a job, well paying a job 2089 02:20:52.200 --> 02:20:54.479 two three times the salary of what they would receive 2090 02:20:55.000 --> 02:21:02.280 in China. Uh. You know, a government one time, you know, 2091 02:21:02.360 --> 02:21:06.399 eighty thousand un which is roughly about fifteen twelve, fifteen 2092 02:21:06.399 --> 02:21:13.239 thousand dollars cash in hand, free land, free housing, and 2093 02:21:13.360 --> 02:21:16.040 we'll even find you an ethnic you know, local ethnic 2094 02:21:16.120 --> 02:21:21.479 minority wife. So they're coursing and there's numerous events where 2095 02:21:21.639 --> 02:21:24.479 you know, they hold like this is not individual weddings, 2096 02:21:24.520 --> 02:21:27.440 they hold mass weddings where like at least groups of 2097 02:21:27.479 --> 02:21:31.120 thirty forty leiker women are forced to marry Chinese you 2098 02:21:31.159 --> 02:21:36.200 know men at once and China as oh, we're promoting 2099 02:21:36.239 --> 02:21:39.040 ethnic unity, We're urging. What they're trying to do is 2100 02:21:39.200 --> 02:21:41.399 essentially breed us out. 2101 02:21:41.600 --> 02:21:45.079 Yeah, to eradicate you, this is a full fledged genocide 2102 02:21:45.159 --> 02:21:50.440 by every single definition or every single conceivable thought of 2103 02:21:50.479 --> 02:21:50.920 the word. 2104 02:21:51.319 --> 02:21:56.760 Yes, exactly, And the US. Canada's parliament was actually the 2105 02:21:56.799 --> 02:21:59.440 first one to recognize it as genocide in October of 2106 02:21:59.479 --> 02:22:03.280 two thousand. Then it was followed by the US government 2107 02:22:04.559 --> 02:22:09.120 under the initial Trump administration in January nineteenth of twenty 2108 02:22:09.200 --> 02:22:14.319 twenty one. It was reaffirmed by the then Biden administration 2109 02:22:14.399 --> 02:22:19.200 as well. It's been recognized as such by the parliaments 2110 02:22:19.200 --> 02:22:25.559 of over a dozen European countries. The UN, because China 2111 02:22:25.559 --> 02:22:29.559 has a lot of influence at the UN, the UN 2112 02:22:29.879 --> 02:22:34.959 was reluctant, you know, coerced into not calling it a genocide. 2113 02:22:34.959 --> 02:22:37.559 But they even they said, oh, you know, it's still 2114 02:22:37.639 --> 02:22:42.040 crimes against humanity. Even though they didn't use the term genocide, 2115 02:22:42.360 --> 02:22:45.479 they acknowledged that at the very least, it's crimes against humanity. 2116 02:22:46.200 --> 02:22:49.719 Yet despite all this, you know, nothing is being done. 2117 02:22:49.760 --> 02:22:54.760 So and our issue really died off after COVID came. 2118 02:22:56.239 --> 02:23:00.159 Immedia stopped talking about our issue. COVID happened. Then it 2119 02:23:01.079 --> 02:23:03.319 Russia invaded the Ukraine, and. 2120 02:23:03.760 --> 02:23:05.920 Oh, I can only imagine how many wea your deaths 2121 02:23:05.920 --> 02:23:09.040 were considered COVID related during that time frame. 2122 02:23:09.120 --> 02:23:15.319 Yeah, so that's another thing. During COVID, Uh, they've built 2123 02:23:15.559 --> 02:23:18.639 a lot of like we saw a lot of videos, 2124 02:23:18.760 --> 02:23:21.920 leaked videos coming out of them building, you know, like 2125 02:23:22.000 --> 02:23:27.079 these really tight graves next to one another, like literally 2126 02:23:27.120 --> 02:23:30.680 you can fit one body in, and like massive in 2127 02:23:30.719 --> 02:23:37.760 the desert and in protests against the COVID mandates in 2128 02:23:37.840 --> 02:23:43.239 China broke out all across China because in Urumchi, if 2129 02:23:43.280 --> 02:23:46.319 you remember there was in twenty twenty two, there was 2130 02:23:46.719 --> 02:23:54.639 twenty two there were protests in China against the COVID lockdowns. Right, yes, 2131 02:23:55.600 --> 02:23:55.920 no one. 2132 02:23:55.959 --> 02:23:58.440 Got super repressed really quickly. 2133 02:24:00.040 --> 02:24:01.760 People that got taken, yeah, and the. 2134 02:24:01.799 --> 02:24:04.159 People screaming in their apartments because they were like locked 2135 02:24:04.159 --> 02:24:06.280 in and barred in at the doors. Yeah. 2136 02:24:06.639 --> 02:24:09.239 The reason that happened was in East Takustan on a 2137 02:24:09.319 --> 02:24:15.760 room cheet because we were locked in in in their apartments. 2138 02:24:16.319 --> 02:24:18.479 A fire broke out in one of the apartment buildings, 2139 02:24:18.920 --> 02:24:22.760 remember hearing about this, because they had barred every place 2140 02:24:23.079 --> 02:24:26.840 to even the fire trucks couldn't come in and put 2141 02:24:26.840 --> 02:24:31.079 out the fire on time. Dozens of wars died. And 2142 02:24:31.120 --> 02:24:33.319 seeing that the Chinese people are like, we don't want 2143 02:24:33.319 --> 02:24:35.879 to end up like those wigers, and so they came 2144 02:24:35.920 --> 02:24:39.399 out took to the streets protesting for the you know, 2145 02:24:39.479 --> 02:24:43.079 to end the COVID lockdown, not not not to protest 2146 02:24:43.079 --> 02:24:45.799 against what was happening, to the course. 2147 02:24:45.879 --> 02:24:46.319 Of course not. 2148 02:24:46.520 --> 02:24:49.799 Yeah, they didn't. They don't really care. 2149 02:24:52.680 --> 02:24:55.319 So how many people, how many people do you think 2150 02:24:55.319 --> 02:24:58.840 are still left? Like because they've killed quite a few people. 2151 02:25:00.120 --> 02:25:05.120 The Chinese government down places our population historically, has always 2152 02:25:05.159 --> 02:25:10.120 downplayed our population. So if you remember, you can find 2153 02:25:10.120 --> 02:25:13.440 this on Chinese state media where and it's not a typo. 2154 02:25:14.280 --> 02:25:17.399 It's not a typo. They did it many times. They 2155 02:25:17.440 --> 02:25:20.399 said they collected the DNA samples, voice prints, and RETNA 2156 02:25:20.440 --> 02:25:23.040 scans of thirty six million people between the ages of 2157 02:25:23.079 --> 02:25:24.200 twelve and sixty five. 2158 02:25:24.760 --> 02:25:27.639 Okay, so that there's a problem. 2159 02:25:28.000 --> 02:25:32.120 But there's a problem here. Officially, total population. According to 2160 02:25:32.159 --> 02:25:35.719 the Chinese government, the total population of the autonomous region 2161 02:25:36.120 --> 02:25:39.399 is supposed to be twenty five million, and about ten 2162 02:25:39.479 --> 02:25:40.959 million of those are Chinese. 2163 02:25:43.079 --> 02:25:45.479 So again, we really can't trust any of the numbers 2164 02:25:45.479 --> 02:25:46.920 that we're hearing come out of them. 2165 02:25:47.639 --> 02:25:48.680 There's no real number. 2166 02:25:49.639 --> 02:25:52.520 Yeah, So this is the thing. In nineteen forty six, 2167 02:25:53.040 --> 02:25:55.719 when we were in an independent government, independent country, as 2168 02:25:55.760 --> 02:25:59.600 the public, our government stated our population at that time 2169 02:25:59.680 --> 02:26:03.719 was seven million. In nineteen forty nine, in his communications 2170 02:26:03.760 --> 02:26:06.920 to Stalin, Mouse stated there were nine million Turket people 2171 02:26:07.200 --> 02:26:09.239 in East tar Kastan after they took over East tar 2172 02:26:09.319 --> 02:26:16.040 kastank Okay. And the growth rate, like this is the thing. 2173 02:26:16.159 --> 02:26:18.639 There's been a rapid drop in our growth rate to 2174 02:26:18.680 --> 02:26:22.319 where it's like set at zero. Now. Our growth rate, 2175 02:26:22.479 --> 02:26:26.200 you know, normal population growth rate sustained, you know, to 2176 02:26:26.280 --> 02:26:29.239 sustain and you know double is like two point seven 2177 02:26:29.280 --> 02:26:34.799 percent annually. Ours, especially in the last ten years, last 2178 02:26:34.840 --> 02:26:39.239 twenty years, especially in the south, was fifteen to twenty 2179 02:26:39.360 --> 02:26:42.360 percent in some parts. So we're we were making a 2180 02:26:42.399 --> 02:26:46.680 lot of babies in some parts, and so China was 2181 02:26:46.719 --> 02:26:51.559 fearful of our growing numbers. So what does China say. 2182 02:26:51.559 --> 02:26:55.239 There's twelve million with yours and with the combined with 2183 02:26:55.319 --> 02:26:59.079 the other three and a half million Kazakhs, kur Ausbics 2184 02:26:59.120 --> 02:27:03.319 and whatever, there's fifty million Turk ethnic minorities and so 2185 02:27:03.479 --> 02:27:07.159 called Chinjah and he's focused on that is the official number. 2186 02:27:08.200 --> 02:27:10.840 And what is China saying? We are not committing genocide. 2187 02:27:10.920 --> 02:27:14.040 There's no evidence of us killing these legles. You won't 2188 02:27:14.040 --> 02:27:17.440 find anything. We're not We're not committing genocide. Their population 2189 02:27:17.600 --> 02:27:21.200 you know, it's growing, they're they're still you know, they're 2190 02:27:21.520 --> 02:27:26.639 they're they're alive. We're not committing them. So essentially China 2191 02:27:27.719 --> 02:27:34.079 under the guys of counter terrorism. If they continue doing 2192 02:27:34.120 --> 02:27:37.600 this by you know, they could have even achieved it 2193 02:27:37.639 --> 02:27:40.520 by now, God only god knows. They could have wiped 2194 02:27:40.559 --> 02:27:42.920 out two thirds of our population without the world not 2195 02:27:42.959 --> 02:27:43.479 even knowing. 2196 02:27:45.520 --> 02:27:49.399 Okay, so now can they flee, Like, are they able 2197 02:27:49.440 --> 02:27:51.399 to flee anywhere? 2198 02:27:51.879 --> 02:27:56.440 No, that's the thing exactly, Like even those that quote 2199 02:27:56.879 --> 02:28:00.200 escaped into Syria, they didn't escape, they were delibered. We 2200 02:28:00.280 --> 02:28:03.559 let it out because there's no way you can't. You 2201 02:28:03.600 --> 02:28:07.280 can't go from by two thousand and ten, you can 2202 02:28:07.440 --> 02:28:11.520 even go from one city to another without hitting a checkpoint. 2203 02:28:11.719 --> 02:28:14.000 It's like fifteen cities on steroids. 2204 02:28:14.440 --> 02:28:19.000 Yeah, and they have. And even in the south, especially 2205 02:28:19.000 --> 02:28:21.399 in the south part of East circumstances where we waters, 2206 02:28:21.719 --> 02:28:24.520 we still make up about eighty five ninety percent of 2207 02:28:24.559 --> 02:28:28.600 the population. So it's less colonized in the south compared 2208 02:28:28.639 --> 02:28:29.440 to the north. 2209 02:28:29.399 --> 02:28:31.360 Because the north is where all the resources are. 2210 02:28:31.799 --> 02:28:34.959 North is more the south is mostly desert oasis towns, 2211 02:28:35.000 --> 02:28:38.280 so the Chinese really don't like living in the desert area. 2212 02:28:38.399 --> 02:28:38.920 So they're kids. 2213 02:28:39.040 --> 02:28:41.920 Are they kidnapping the females and taking them up north? 2214 02:28:42.040 --> 02:28:44.680 To try to like breed them out pretty much. 2215 02:28:44.799 --> 02:28:47.360 No, I mean they're they're moving and even Chinese into 2216 02:28:47.360 --> 02:28:51.120 the south this point there, this is where they're giving 2217 02:28:51.120 --> 02:28:54.440 them the incentives, you know, give you more money, We'll 2218 02:28:54.440 --> 02:28:57.040 give you a job, will give you whatever you want, 2219 02:28:57.159 --> 02:29:00.680 Come move, you know, because they have to place us 2220 02:29:01.959 --> 02:29:05.000 because even in the south, even if the south of 2221 02:29:05.040 --> 02:29:09.559 East Rakistan was successfully you know, in getting its independence, 2222 02:29:09.840 --> 02:29:11.879 is still going to be a strategic loss for China 2223 02:29:12.600 --> 02:29:18.319 because where all the oil, natural gas, gold and other 2224 02:29:19.079 --> 02:29:21.920 critical minerals are located. So they're not going to want 2225 02:29:21.920 --> 02:29:24.879 to give it up. And this is why they're doing that. 2226 02:29:25.639 --> 02:29:30.799 So they're enacting all of these policies, and so our 2227 02:29:30.840 --> 02:29:33.559 fear is that they are trying to reduce us to 2228 02:29:33.600 --> 02:29:40.840 the official you know, fifteen million only population, and by 2229 02:29:40.879 --> 02:29:43.600 doing so, they could potentially kill off two thirds of 2230 02:29:43.639 --> 02:29:48.159 our population without you know, the world doing anything about it. 2231 02:29:48.280 --> 02:29:50.799 So this kind of leads into my question, how did 2232 02:29:50.959 --> 02:29:54.799 you get out? You by your message that you reach 2233 02:29:54.840 --> 02:29:57.079 out to us, you said that you're currently living in Washington, 2234 02:29:57.159 --> 02:29:59.879 d C. Correct, Yeah, and you have in a f 2235 02:30:00.360 --> 02:30:05.000 title as far as East Turkestan is concerned, correct, Yes, okay. 2236 02:30:05.040 --> 02:30:08.959 So and you, I don't know, I'm judging by your age. 2237 02:30:08.959 --> 02:30:10.639 You look to be about our age. You look like 2238 02:30:10.639 --> 02:30:14.920 you're in your thirties maybe, okay, So how long have 2239 02:30:15.040 --> 02:30:17.399 you been in the US. How did you and your 2240 02:30:17.440 --> 02:30:20.319 family make it out? What? How did you fall into 2241 02:30:20.959 --> 02:30:24.079 this as far as the representative for the country, Like, 2242 02:30:24.200 --> 02:30:25.319 how did all this come to be? 2243 02:30:26.200 --> 02:30:31.079 Yes, So I'll start off with my you know, background story. 2244 02:30:31.600 --> 02:30:35.719 I was born in East Yakistan in the town of Atuch, 2245 02:30:35.799 --> 02:30:39.440 which is a you know, predominantly uber city. In fact, 2246 02:30:39.600 --> 02:30:42.799 when I was there, there was like the only Chinese 2247 02:30:43.000 --> 02:30:47.399 that I remember seeing was the Chinese you know, military 2248 02:30:47.600 --> 02:30:51.360 that was stationed there and the Chinese officials. As far 2249 02:30:51.360 --> 02:30:54.040 as that's there was no Chinese civilians in our in 2250 02:30:54.079 --> 02:30:59.479 our town. So I was born in Atus in nineteen 2251 02:30:59.559 --> 02:31:03.120 ninety three. So I'm thirty two. I'll be thirty three 2252 02:31:03.120 --> 02:31:09.639 in a few months. And I grew up into a Weiger. 2253 02:31:10.000 --> 02:31:14.440 I was born into a Weiger merchant family. But not 2254 02:31:14.479 --> 02:31:17.239 only a merchant family, but like my family had a 2255 02:31:17.360 --> 02:31:21.479 history of opposing the occupation throughout the past. 2256 02:31:21.559 --> 02:31:23.719 You know, well, like you said, your dad's uncle was 2257 02:31:23.719 --> 02:31:27.479 a part of the resistance at one point, so I mean, yeah. 2258 02:31:28.000 --> 02:31:33.879 And so my father he fled East Turkistan in nineteen 2259 02:31:33.959 --> 02:31:40.280 ninety five after a mass protest and they crushed the protests, 2260 02:31:40.360 --> 02:31:44.079 so he fled into neighboring Central Asia. Then in Central 2261 02:31:44.120 --> 02:31:50.760 Asia he tried to you know, join our resistance there 2262 02:31:50.799 --> 02:31:53.520 and tried to you know, prepare for an uprising in 2263 02:31:53.559 --> 02:31:58.840 East Trakistan, but it never never happened because one Turkey 2264 02:31:59.040 --> 02:32:02.200 and the Central Asian go roaments, you know, backstep does. 2265 02:32:03.760 --> 02:32:09.760 And so he ended up fleeing to Europe initially in nineties, 2266 02:32:10.000 --> 02:32:13.239 in ninety seven, and then ended up in the US 2267 02:32:13.280 --> 02:32:19.280 in nineteen ninety eight and applied for political asylum here, 2268 02:32:19.680 --> 02:32:25.280 and then in two thousand he was able to get 2269 02:32:25.319 --> 02:32:32.559 the US embassy in Beijing to help reunited. So the 2270 02:32:32.840 --> 02:32:37.399 problem was even at that time, getting passports, as we wire, 2271 02:32:37.680 --> 02:32:42.760 is very difficult for the normal average Chinese citizen. You apply, 2272 02:32:42.920 --> 02:32:47.280 you apply, you pay like what fifty sixty you know, 2273 02:32:47.760 --> 02:32:51.319 US dollars you get your passport for it was it 2274 02:32:51.360 --> 02:32:55.239 was virtually impossible at that time. You have to you know, 2275 02:32:55.360 --> 02:32:58.520 if you had money, you know, there are some ways 2276 02:32:58.559 --> 02:33:03.120 to you know, bribe officials to get it, but you 2277 02:33:03.159 --> 02:33:06.000 would be paying thousands, Like I'm talking about five six 2278 02:33:06.040 --> 02:33:07.840 thousand dollars just for one passport. 2279 02:33:08.280 --> 02:33:10.600 Yeah, that's crazy. 2280 02:33:11.159 --> 02:33:15.319 So despite the fact that you know, and again, as 2281 02:33:15.360 --> 02:33:18.159 I told you, I'm from a merchant family, so we're 2282 02:33:18.239 --> 02:33:22.120 a little bit well off in most people, and especially 2283 02:33:22.680 --> 02:33:28.479 my hometown. Actually we're historically known for our merchants. Like 2284 02:33:28.639 --> 02:33:33.399 that's what we do. We've been historically, like a majority 2285 02:33:33.440 --> 02:33:38.319 of the people, they're engaged in business. So like people 2286 02:33:38.399 --> 02:33:41.680 joke and say that, oh, were there, they were the 2287 02:33:41.799 --> 02:33:43.639 Jews of the waters, you know. 2288 02:33:43.680 --> 02:33:48.079 Like that, I don't know, the term Turkish bizaar came 2289 02:33:48.120 --> 02:33:50.159 to mind, but also because the Turk screwge all over, 2290 02:33:50.159 --> 02:33:51.399 I feel like that would have been a bit yeah. 2291 02:33:51.440 --> 02:33:58.719 But yeah, yeah, so this is and so my family, 2292 02:34:00.440 --> 02:34:04.319 they you know, spent a considerable amount of money trying 2293 02:34:04.360 --> 02:34:09.719 to get you know, those passports, but the government refused 2294 02:34:09.760 --> 02:34:14.280 to to give it, even though the bribes had already 2295 02:34:14.319 --> 02:34:19.000 went you know, already went into the pockets of those officials. 2296 02:34:19.600 --> 02:34:23.280 So finally, after you know, two years of trying, this 2297 02:34:23.799 --> 02:34:30.040 uh failed. So my father he was able to get 2298 02:34:30.760 --> 02:34:34.120 the help of the US Embassy in Beijing and the 2299 02:34:34.239 --> 02:34:37.559 US Embassy in Beijing is like, all right, either you 2300 02:34:37.559 --> 02:34:41.399 can issue them a passport or I will issue them 2301 02:34:41.440 --> 02:34:44.440 travel documents and I will take them. Either way, the 2302 02:34:44.520 --> 02:34:49.520 choice is yours. And so the US helped us really 2303 02:34:49.600 --> 02:34:52.200 not with my father. So it was me, my older brother, 2304 02:34:52.760 --> 02:34:56.920 my older sister, my younger sister, my mother, and yeah, 2305 02:34:57.079 --> 02:35:00.399 my father was living in Oklahoma. So and June of 2306 02:35:00.479 --> 02:35:05.000 two thousand of two thousand, week came to Fort Worth 2307 02:35:05.239 --> 02:35:09.280 in Dallas, Texas, near Dallas, Texas, and then drove up 2308 02:35:09.280 --> 02:35:13.760 to Oklahoma. And so my father had a very I 2309 02:35:13.760 --> 02:35:17.440 would say he had the greatest impact in my upbringing, 2310 02:35:17.600 --> 02:35:24.040 in my you know, my advocacy might cause my life 2311 02:35:24.079 --> 02:35:28.360 mission absolutely so immediately. 2312 02:35:28.079 --> 02:35:28.239 Like. 2313 02:35:30.079 --> 02:35:33.399 I didn't even remember my father, to be honest, because 2314 02:35:33.639 --> 02:35:37.000 when he left, I was like, what two years old, 2315 02:35:37.520 --> 02:35:40.479 So I don't have any memory of my father. But 2316 02:35:40.600 --> 02:35:44.799 immediately after coming, like that two hour drive from Dallas 2317 02:35:44.799 --> 02:35:47.840 Fort Worth to Oklahoma City to our apartment, immediately, first 2318 02:35:47.840 --> 02:35:51.399 thing he did is he sat us down and he said, 2319 02:35:51.520 --> 02:35:55.799 I want you guys to understand why I brought you 2320 02:35:55.840 --> 02:36:01.200 guys here. He said, I brought you here so not 2321 02:36:01.319 --> 02:36:04.239 so you could forget your homeland, not so you could 2322 02:36:04.399 --> 02:36:08.000 forget your people. Not so you could forget your brothers 2323 02:36:08.000 --> 02:36:12.719 and your relatives, you know, and uncles, but so you 2324 02:36:12.760 --> 02:36:16.280 could become educated, and so you can do what I 2325 02:36:16.319 --> 02:36:20.879 couldn't do. So you can become educated and return one 2326 02:36:20.959 --> 02:36:25.920 day to liberate our homeland and our people. So this 2327 02:36:25.959 --> 02:36:28.639 is your mission. This is why I brought you here 2328 02:36:29.200 --> 02:36:33.799 to the US. Always remember that. So that was that. 2329 02:36:34.040 --> 02:36:38.479 So since like literally after the drive, that was like 2330 02:36:38.559 --> 02:36:43.040 the very first thing. And so he began to teach 2331 02:36:43.079 --> 02:36:46.440 us our history, which is bare, you know, because even 2332 02:36:46.559 --> 02:36:49.440 talking even uttering the word East Trakistan in East Pakistan 2333 02:36:49.920 --> 02:36:54.879 is a crime, right, But everyone knows in their heart, 2334 02:36:55.000 --> 02:36:57.040 we know our country's name is East tra Kistan, but 2335 02:36:57.120 --> 02:37:00.239 we can we can't say it. We know we used 2336 02:37:00.280 --> 02:37:02.959 to be independent country, but we can't see it, even 2337 02:37:03.000 --> 02:37:05.159 the little kids. Even when I was in East Takistan, 2338 02:37:05.479 --> 02:37:08.440 I would hear the elders, you know, always talking about 2339 02:37:08.479 --> 02:37:12.559 how if the Russians hadn't screwed up things, you know, 2340 02:37:12.719 --> 02:37:15.200 for us, we would be we would have been independent 2341 02:37:15.280 --> 02:37:17.879 and for a while. To be honest, like I thought 2342 02:37:17.959 --> 02:37:21.399 the Chinese were the Russians because I didn't know the 2343 02:37:21.639 --> 02:37:24.440 difference until, you know, because I'm like three four years old, 2344 02:37:24.440 --> 02:37:26.239 and yeah, you hear these things and you're like. 2345 02:37:26.520 --> 02:37:28.680 At that point, you're hearing the old folks talk about it, 2346 02:37:28.719 --> 02:37:32.639 and you're like the legend of right, it's like the 2347 02:37:32.440 --> 02:37:35.079 these crazy stories of our past that like I mean, 2348 02:37:35.120 --> 02:37:37.680 if you say so, Grandpa, but I just I don't 2349 02:37:37.680 --> 02:37:39.200 know what you Yeah, out. 2350 02:37:39.000 --> 02:37:41.399 Of your all your out of your family. Are you 2351 02:37:41.479 --> 02:37:44.280 the only one that's like really heavy into activism and 2352 02:37:44.319 --> 02:37:45.760 trying to get changed happening. 2353 02:37:47.719 --> 02:37:51.760 I mean my sister she's more and like she's trying 2354 02:37:51.799 --> 02:37:55.239 to help, like you know, in her own ways. She's 2355 02:37:55.280 --> 02:38:01.280 like more just more human rights were But he isn't 2356 02:38:01.360 --> 02:38:05.120 like being out there in the open like I do. 2357 02:38:05.280 --> 02:38:09.479 I mean me, I had no, like my goal like 2358 02:38:09.840 --> 02:38:11.680 was to become a military officer. I wanted to be 2359 02:38:11.760 --> 02:38:15.600 a general. That was my that was my dream. I 2360 02:38:15.639 --> 02:38:17.680 was like, I'm going to be a general one day, 2361 02:38:17.719 --> 02:38:19.799 I'm going to lead my army and I'm going to 2362 02:38:19.840 --> 02:38:21.639 free our country and our people. 2363 02:38:21.760 --> 02:38:22.680 Did you end up serving? 2364 02:38:23.520 --> 02:38:26.840 And yeah, and so I did. So my father that's 2365 02:38:26.840 --> 02:38:29.200 what he wanted for both me and my older brother. 2366 02:38:29.920 --> 02:38:33.120 My older brother he's still he's still in he's still 2367 02:38:33.360 --> 02:38:38.719 serving from what I know what Bran, he's in the Navy. Okay, 2368 02:38:39.680 --> 02:38:42.520 so he's been he's been doing that for the past 2369 02:38:43.159 --> 02:38:47.600 over since like almost twenty years. 2370 02:38:47.639 --> 02:38:49.719 So okay, he's getting ready to retire. So we're both 2371 02:38:49.760 --> 02:38:50.760 Marine Corps veterans. 2372 02:38:51.200 --> 02:38:53.959 Yeah, and oh, thank you for your service, but I 2373 02:38:54.000 --> 02:38:59.520 mean you serve too correct and well mine. So in 2374 02:38:59.559 --> 02:39:04.000 two thousand nine, I became a US citizen and then 2375 02:39:04.520 --> 02:39:08.959 I want I actually wanted to go to West Point. 2376 02:39:08.959 --> 02:39:10.319 That was my goal, was like, I want to go 2377 02:39:10.360 --> 02:39:13.440 to West Point Military Academy. This, this is what I 2378 02:39:13.479 --> 02:39:17.719 wanted to do. But I couldn't get a nomination because 2379 02:39:17.760 --> 02:39:20.280 I wasn't a citizen at the time when I was 2380 02:39:20.280 --> 02:39:24.559 finishing up high school. So when I became a citizen, 2381 02:39:24.600 --> 02:39:26.520 I finished up high school and then so I was like, 2382 02:39:26.559 --> 02:39:28.079 all right, let me just do R O t C. 2383 02:39:29.280 --> 02:39:31.680 So I did R O t C. I started R 2384 02:39:31.680 --> 02:39:34.719 O t C and then like literally as I started 2385 02:39:34.840 --> 02:39:40.479 R O t C, I guess some of the are instructors, uh, 2386 02:39:40.639 --> 02:39:45.319 you know, were the guardsmen. So they're like, oh, well, 2387 02:39:45.319 --> 02:39:47.719 if you want to, if you want to, you know, 2388 02:39:48.159 --> 02:39:50.600 set yourself up to become a better you know, be 2389 02:39:50.680 --> 02:39:54.799 more respected when you commissioned as an officer. You know, 2390 02:39:54.840 --> 02:39:58.680 you want some experience, do national guards? So I ended 2391 02:39:58.719 --> 02:40:02.719 up joining the Oklahoma Army National Guard, trained at for 2392 02:40:02.920 --> 02:40:04.639 Benning my. 2393 02:40:08.639 --> 02:40:13.879 Basic and a t oh your infantry, Yeah, same, Yeah. 2394 02:40:15.840 --> 02:40:17.840 So did you stay in national Guard or you went 2395 02:40:17.879 --> 02:40:19.079 regular army at a certain point? 2396 02:40:19.280 --> 02:40:22.600 No? No, So two and a half years into this, 2397 02:40:24.639 --> 02:40:26.799 about twent a half years into it, at a freal 2398 02:40:26.840 --> 02:40:31.879 training exercise after coming back, I had an emergency appendectomy 2399 02:40:33.239 --> 02:40:37.239 and then I guess during the scan of my body, 2400 02:40:37.280 --> 02:40:40.760 they're like, oh, bro, we got policistic kidney disease. So 2401 02:40:40.840 --> 02:40:45.239 that permanently killed off my military career. 2402 02:40:45.600 --> 02:40:47.399 Did you get medically retired? 2403 02:40:47.760 --> 02:40:49.280 Yeah? I got a medical discharge. 2404 02:40:49.600 --> 02:40:52.159 Okay, Yeah. 2405 02:40:52.600 --> 02:40:56.520 I went into depression for about let's say, like three months, 2406 02:40:56.959 --> 02:41:00.479 not knowing what to do. Sure, I wanted to because 2407 02:41:00.680 --> 02:41:04.040 my whole life was that. 2408 02:41:04.239 --> 02:41:07.879 That's what I His whole plane was the military too, so. 2409 02:41:07.959 --> 02:41:09.600 Same since I was three years old, that's what I 2410 02:41:09.600 --> 02:41:12.360 wanted to do. Then I got there, and you know, 2411 02:41:12.440 --> 02:41:15.760 God's got a plan, and it wasn't his plan for 2412 02:41:15.799 --> 02:41:17.559 me to see combat, even though that was like my 2413 02:41:17.799 --> 02:41:21.040 goal for my entire life. And uh, you know, I 2414 02:41:21.040 --> 02:41:21.440 wanted to. 2415 02:41:21.360 --> 02:41:23.719 Be doctors without borders. So I feel that. 2416 02:41:24.319 --> 02:41:25.760 And you became a comorne. 2417 02:41:26.319 --> 02:41:26.600 Yep. 2418 02:41:26.760 --> 02:41:29.120 I wanted to be I wanted to be actually over 2419 02:41:29.319 --> 02:41:33.000 helping people all across the globe. That has been my 2420 02:41:33.079 --> 02:41:35.440 dream since I was a child. So I get it. 2421 02:41:35.479 --> 02:41:37.360 Life life be life, and it does. 2422 02:41:37.559 --> 02:41:40.200 So I absolutely understand about of depression that you would 2423 02:41:40.200 --> 02:41:44.000 get into and the lack of direction and not knowing 2424 02:41:44.040 --> 02:41:45.239 what happens next and. 2425 02:41:45.200 --> 02:41:49.239 All that exactly. And then I was like, all right, 2426 02:41:49.319 --> 02:41:50.959 so what do I do from here? I was like, 2427 02:41:51.000 --> 02:41:53.520 all right, I can't do this. What do I do? 2428 02:41:53.559 --> 02:41:55.559 And I was like, all right, well, maybe you know, 2429 02:41:56.559 --> 02:41:58.799 I need to starty. So I was like, well, maybe 2430 02:41:58.840 --> 02:42:01.959 I can get into politics. Make maybe I can work 2431 02:42:02.159 --> 02:42:04.399 you know, at the State Department or some other government 2432 02:42:04.440 --> 02:42:09.360 agency and help my people that way. And so I 2433 02:42:09.399 --> 02:42:13.120 was like, let me study international area studies and political science. 2434 02:42:13.120 --> 02:42:15.760 And that's what I did. And in twenty sixteen, when 2435 02:42:15.760 --> 02:42:21.879 I was finishing up my bachelors, this is when the 2436 02:42:21.920 --> 02:42:25.040 election cycles happening. You know, everyone's like, oh, we need 2437 02:42:25.079 --> 02:42:29.360 to be tough in China. So I wrote my My 2438 02:42:29.760 --> 02:42:34.120 bachelor's capstone was essentially a policy proposal titled refining the 2439 02:42:34.120 --> 02:42:37.559 American Grand Strategy from Central Asia to the Wagers, and 2440 02:42:37.600 --> 02:42:40.799 so I in that I pretty much highlighted that our 2441 02:42:40.840 --> 02:42:45.280 people were facing a genocide, We're facing orlonization, and that 2442 02:42:45.319 --> 02:42:48.559 the United States needs to actually work with the Waders too, 2443 02:42:49.760 --> 02:42:57.559 you know, pressure, pressure China, And that was my capstone. 2444 02:42:57.680 --> 02:43:02.040 And so to help in one of my professors, I 2445 02:43:02.760 --> 02:43:04.239 you know, I asked her, you know, can you can 2446 02:43:04.280 --> 02:43:07.639 you help me, you know, send this? I said, if 2447 02:43:07.680 --> 02:43:09.440 I'm going to do this, could you help me with 2448 02:43:09.639 --> 02:43:14.559 you know, sending it to you know, different think tank 2449 02:43:14.760 --> 02:43:20.319 government agencies and you know, perfect it. So it's you know, professional, 2450 02:43:20.399 --> 02:43:25.440 not some you know amateur, yeah, reporter or something. And 2451 02:43:25.639 --> 02:43:28.639 so they're like yeah, and she was like yeah. And 2452 02:43:28.680 --> 02:43:32.120 so with her help, I was able to send it around. 2453 02:43:33.120 --> 02:43:36.280 And by twenty seventeen, I started losing contact with all 2454 02:43:36.319 --> 02:43:40.239 of my relatives in East Arkistan. Oh no, because they're 2455 02:43:40.360 --> 02:43:43.360 slowly being taken into the camps. And one of the 2456 02:43:43.399 --> 02:43:48.120 reasons for being sent to re education to why you're 2457 02:43:48.159 --> 02:43:53.079 you know, because if you're not trustworthy, that's what they do. 2458 02:43:53.120 --> 02:43:56.280 They grade you on trustworthiness. So one of the reasons 2459 02:43:56.319 --> 02:44:02.479 you're not trust deemed trustworthy is if you have contact 2460 02:44:02.520 --> 02:44:06.799 with anyone overseas or if you traveled overseas, So if 2461 02:44:06.840 --> 02:44:10.079 you have any relatives overseas and even contact music, even 2462 02:44:10.120 --> 02:44:13.440 if you spoke to them on the phone. M oh. 2463 02:44:13.479 --> 02:44:16.159 Another reason is if you have relatives overseas as well, 2464 02:44:16.600 --> 02:44:20.719 you're not just worthy so fully, our relatives were being 2465 02:44:20.959 --> 02:44:21.920 taken one by one. 2466 02:44:22.159 --> 02:44:24.079 I've heard that in North Korea as well, like if 2467 02:44:24.120 --> 02:44:27.399 you defect her I think her name's Naomi Park, that 2468 02:44:27.440 --> 02:44:33.000 could be wrong. She escaped in North Korea through sex slavery, 2469 02:44:33.399 --> 02:44:35.840 like her mom sold her into prostitution at a young 2470 02:44:35.879 --> 02:44:38.040 age to get her across the border. She got to America, 2471 02:44:38.079 --> 02:44:40.719 and she has been very prolific about talking about the 2472 02:44:40.719 --> 02:44:44.600 atrocities in North Korea. It's understood that every member of 2473 02:44:44.600 --> 02:44:48.120 her bloodline that is connected is currently in a forced 2474 02:44:48.159 --> 02:44:50.799 labor camp, probably for life. Because she made it out. 2475 02:44:50.840 --> 02:44:52.239 And that's how it is North Korea. That's how the 2476 02:44:52.280 --> 02:44:56.079 guilt trip you to never leave is because they let 2477 02:44:56.120 --> 02:44:58.360 it be known that if you make it out and 2478 02:44:58.399 --> 02:45:00.879 you try to start a life somewhere, all your cousins, 2479 02:45:00.879 --> 02:45:03.479 your aunts, your second third cousins you never met before, 2480 02:45:03.559 --> 02:45:05.399 are all going to be in that kind of situation, 2481 02:45:05.559 --> 02:45:07.280 it's absolutely horrible. 2482 02:45:07.879 --> 02:45:14.719 They like it's collective punishment as a deterrent for others. 2483 02:45:15.760 --> 02:45:18.639 So if you end up like this, because they want examples, 2484 02:45:18.680 --> 02:45:20.559 you know, make an example out of you, so they 2485 02:45:20.840 --> 02:45:23.319 treat you everyone like this. See, this is what will 2486 02:45:23.319 --> 02:45:24.159 happen if you do this. 2487 02:45:24.680 --> 02:45:27.879 So you need enough waves for them to notice. And 2488 02:45:27.920 --> 02:45:28.799 they started. 2489 02:45:28.520 --> 02:45:32.879 Taking because again it's not regardless of if I did 2490 02:45:32.920 --> 02:45:34.639 this or if I stood silent. 2491 02:45:34.920 --> 02:45:36.280 Either way they're taking them. 2492 02:45:36.719 --> 02:45:40.680 It was gonna happen. In fact, I you could said 2493 02:45:40.719 --> 02:45:46.600 I started becoming more public and in fighting for this 2494 02:45:47.239 --> 02:45:51.959 because they did that in a way. So as I'm 2495 02:45:52.000 --> 02:45:57.399 sending my proposals, we're getting responses from you know, Congress 2496 02:45:57.399 --> 02:46:00.520 and other places like what were your organization are you with? 2497 02:46:00.760 --> 02:46:04.360 And I'm not affiliated with any WEIG organization. I'm still 2498 02:46:04.360 --> 02:46:10.239 in Oklahoma. There's like literally no wars in Oklahoma. Rights 2499 02:46:10.280 --> 02:46:14.719 are in the DC area somewhere in like Houston, in 2500 02:46:15.799 --> 02:46:19.600 like New York and so forth. So and the existing 2501 02:46:19.639 --> 02:46:26.559 were groups, all of them, you know, especially after two 2502 02:46:26.639 --> 02:46:31.360 thousand and four, our in our movement went from advocating 2503 02:46:31.360 --> 02:46:35.959 for independence in East Turkistan too. We just want genuine 2504 02:46:36.000 --> 02:46:39.360 autonomy and human rights under China. And of course this 2505 02:46:39.440 --> 02:46:44.079 is not a natural it's not a movement doesn't go 2506 02:46:44.200 --> 02:46:48.120 overnight like that on its own. Refer to Document number 2507 02:46:48.159 --> 02:46:51.719 seven Directive EATE and you'll understand why. So this is 2508 02:46:51.799 --> 02:46:54.680 this is what happened to our movement to where again, 2509 02:46:54.799 --> 02:46:57.440 even in the diaspora, no one's calling it East Turkistan, 2510 02:46:57.520 --> 02:47:02.239 no one's calling our country's name its own name, our 2511 02:47:02.280 --> 02:47:07.040 own organizations, for God's sake, you know, like these we're 2512 02:47:07.040 --> 02:47:09.920 fighting for human rights. So I tried reaching out to them, 2513 02:47:10.079 --> 02:47:12.600 and I said, we need to highlight our plight. We 2514 02:47:12.680 --> 02:47:15.600 need to you know, ask the US to at the 2515 02:47:15.760 --> 02:47:19.399 very minimum, treat us on the same level as Tibet, 2516 02:47:19.520 --> 02:47:22.399 like introduced a weaker policy. 2517 02:47:22.000 --> 02:47:24.239 Act of what's going on. 2518 02:47:24.319 --> 02:47:30.559 Right, recognize the atrocities to genocide, hold China accountable everything 2519 02:47:30.600 --> 02:47:33.360 that they've already done for Tibet, everything that I've been 2520 02:47:34.200 --> 02:47:38.680 fighting for since then. I wrote, you know, in in 2521 02:47:38.680 --> 02:47:43.479 in the policy proposal. So they're like, oh, no, you know, 2522 02:47:43.639 --> 02:47:47.360 we we don't want to get involved in politics. We 2523 02:47:47.399 --> 02:47:49.440 don't want to do that. You know that's going to 2524 02:47:49.520 --> 02:47:50.559 make China upset. 2525 02:47:51.559 --> 02:47:58.639 Yes, and China, you know, and and another thing is 2526 02:47:58.680 --> 02:48:02.239 like I grew up in the West, so my mentality is. 2527 02:48:02.200 --> 02:48:08.680 More American or more bolder, whereas are people there living 2528 02:48:08.760 --> 02:48:12.959 under you know, growing up under occupation and colonization constantly, 2529 02:48:13.040 --> 02:48:16.399 you know, suppressed, and you you don't you're not as 2530 02:48:16.719 --> 02:48:18.799 crazy or maybe it's just me, I don't know. 2531 02:48:18.680 --> 02:48:20.920 I know you're subdued as hell. Absolutely you don't want 2532 02:48:20.959 --> 02:48:21.920 to speak up about it. 2533 02:48:22.200 --> 02:48:26.040 Yeah, So I was like, you know what, I don't 2534 02:48:26.479 --> 02:48:28.799 None of these groups are willing to even work with me. 2535 02:48:29.360 --> 02:48:31.799 So I told my professor what what do I do? 2536 02:48:32.879 --> 02:48:38.520 And she was like, you know, before a nation, you know, 2537 02:48:38.600 --> 02:48:43.040 before nations you know, get into you know, the independence 2538 02:48:43.120 --> 02:48:48.200 movement phase, they have a national awakening movement movement. And 2539 02:48:48.280 --> 02:48:52.360 so that's how we ended up, you know, partly with 2540 02:48:52.399 --> 02:48:55.520 my professor through the name, but I found a couple 2541 02:48:55.600 --> 02:49:00.159 of other you know, young with wars and Kazakhs from 2542 02:49:00.200 --> 02:49:02.680 East Kakistan who like myself, grew up in the West, 2543 02:49:03.000 --> 02:49:05.280 and so we started, you know, there were in other 2544 02:49:05.280 --> 02:49:07.959 parts of the US, but I started you know, communicating 2545 02:49:08.000 --> 02:49:11.879 them with online, with them, many of them through Facebook, 2546 02:49:11.920 --> 02:49:15.600 and so we had built a network. And so initially 2547 02:49:16.159 --> 02:49:18.440 we were calling it like the Weaker Youth something, and 2548 02:49:18.440 --> 02:49:20.159 then I was like, you know what, let's call it 2549 02:49:20.319 --> 02:49:24.000 the East Pakistan Nashville Awakening Movement, because we need to 2550 02:49:24.000 --> 02:49:26.479 awaken our people, we need to awaken the world to 2551 02:49:26.959 --> 02:49:28.360 the reality of East Pakistan. 2552 02:49:28.840 --> 02:49:29.079 Yeah. 2553 02:49:29.120 --> 02:49:34.520 And so this was in June twenty seventeen, and since 2554 02:49:34.559 --> 02:49:41.639 then we've raised awareness, you know, mostly through Initially we 2555 02:49:41.680 --> 02:49:47.079 capitalize off of social media Twitter, Facebook, Instagram to highlight 2556 02:49:48.280 --> 02:49:53.799 the genocide. Then we you know, reached out to churches, mosques, synagogues, 2557 02:49:53.959 --> 02:49:58.239 wherever we could to highlight the atrocities, focusing mainly on 2558 02:49:58.760 --> 02:50:00.000 highlighting the atrocities. 2559 02:50:00.200 --> 02:50:03.079 I feel like you got kicked off of TikTok pretty hard, correct. 2560 02:50:04.319 --> 02:50:06.680 Yeah. Yeah, no, I I never I never used TikTok 2561 02:50:07.559 --> 02:50:12.639 good because uh it's it's it's Chinese. 2562 02:50:12.360 --> 02:50:14.280 You know, Chinese ran owned. 2563 02:50:15.000 --> 02:50:20.200 I'm like, no, I'm not gonna use the Chinese because 2564 02:50:20.239 --> 02:50:23.239 even if I downloaded it, like it's also like a 2565 02:50:23.280 --> 02:50:26.680 security risk because technically they could have you know, some 2566 02:50:26.799 --> 02:50:31.600 coding where through whole phone and like me, I run, 2567 02:50:31.920 --> 02:50:36.200 like my entire movement is you know, through the form 2568 02:50:36.760 --> 02:50:38.000 yeah activities. 2569 02:50:38.120 --> 02:50:40.399 I'm glad to hear you say that because whenever I 2570 02:50:40.520 --> 02:50:43.120 say it, and whenever I say that TikTok is a 2571 02:50:43.200 --> 02:50:45.200 Chinese app and it's being used to spy on us, 2572 02:50:45.360 --> 02:50:47.399 people look at me like I'm fucking crazy. 2573 02:50:47.520 --> 02:50:50.120 And he's said this for years now and people get 2574 02:50:50.159 --> 02:50:51.120 really upset with him. 2575 02:50:51.319 --> 02:50:55.680 Years Meanwhile, no, no, thankfully we have an East Turkistani 2576 02:50:55.760 --> 02:50:58.319 gentleman here to speak on it and say no, TikTok 2577 02:50:58.399 --> 02:51:01.920 is absolutely a Chinese prop gam machine. The algorithms that 2578 02:51:02.000 --> 02:51:05.920 are being pushed are CCP funded and approved, and it's 2579 02:51:05.959 --> 02:51:07.280 absolutely tracking you. 2580 02:51:07.959 --> 02:51:10.520 Yeah, so it's not just about the algorithms, it's about 2581 02:51:10.760 --> 02:51:15.600 the entire tracking mechanism because literally they perfected this in 2582 02:51:15.639 --> 02:51:20.719 each Turkistan because through that they can analyze create an 2583 02:51:20.840 --> 02:51:24.079 entire profile on you, what you like, what you hate, 2584 02:51:24.639 --> 02:51:27.520 you know, who you contact with, what you know Like 2585 02:51:28.000 --> 02:51:30.639 if you watch a video for like even three seconds, 2586 02:51:30.959 --> 02:51:34.079 or you watch it for five seconds, for six seconds, 2587 02:51:34.159 --> 02:51:36.840 it's like, oh, this person likes watching this type of 2588 02:51:36.920 --> 02:51:40.079 videos for five or six seconds, this is longer than 2589 02:51:40.120 --> 02:51:43.239 this type of videos. This person's weakness is this. This 2590 02:51:43.280 --> 02:51:46.840 is how we get them. And then you know once 2591 02:51:46.840 --> 02:51:50.200 it has that data on you. Because mind this the 2592 02:51:50.319 --> 02:51:56.760 Chinese government back. I don't know if you remember in 2593 02:51:56.840 --> 02:52:02.879 the two thousand and like fifteen six time period, maybe 2594 02:52:03.079 --> 02:52:05.399 a little later than that, but somewhere around that time, 2595 02:52:06.239 --> 02:52:10.840 there was like an OPM Officer Personnel Management hack the Chinese. 2596 02:52:10.959 --> 02:52:17.920 So they hacked literally into the files directors of all government, 2597 02:52:18.319 --> 02:52:20.680 anyone that was employed federal government. 2598 02:52:20.920 --> 02:52:21.120 Yep. 2599 02:52:21.440 --> 02:52:25.520 The only reason I know that is because everyone you 2600 02:52:25.559 --> 02:52:30.719 know who was we received notifications saying, hey, you might 2601 02:52:30.760 --> 02:52:33.159 have you know, your records might have potentially been stolen 2602 02:52:33.159 --> 02:52:33.920 by the Chinese. 2603 02:52:35.200 --> 02:52:38.680 FYI And why Chinese hackers? They don't mean like some 2604 02:52:39.280 --> 02:52:43.079 dude living in his mom's basement in somewhere nowhere's ville, China. No, No, 2605 02:52:43.159 --> 02:52:44.760 that means CCP Chinese. 2606 02:52:44.959 --> 02:52:48.760 Yeah, the Chinese government, the Chinese military. So what are 2607 02:52:48.799 --> 02:52:52.959 they doing with this data? They're collecting it, collecting all 2608 02:52:52.959 --> 02:52:55.600 of this. They know every They create little profiles for 2609 02:52:55.680 --> 02:53:00.760 everyone because their ultimate plan is to slowly infil shape 2610 02:53:00.799 --> 02:53:04.399 people who they can co opt, because that's their that's 2611 02:53:04.399 --> 02:53:06.159 how they do it. If they want, if they can't 2612 02:53:06.360 --> 02:53:10.680 take militarily, they want to find people in the US 2613 02:53:10.719 --> 02:53:13.600 that they can you know, essentially co opt to work 2614 02:53:13.639 --> 02:53:17.239 for them. So they look at your weaknesses. So whatever 2615 02:53:17.479 --> 02:53:20.120 weaknesses you have, like whatever you do on your phone, 2616 02:53:20.159 --> 02:53:23.799 like you think, okay, I'm not using the TikTok app, 2617 02:53:23.959 --> 02:53:27.079 I'm doing something else. You have, you know, you have 2618 02:53:27.120 --> 02:53:29.360 your private life, You have different things, like god knows 2619 02:53:29.360 --> 02:53:31.360 what people do on these phones, but there's a lot 2620 02:53:31.360 --> 02:53:32.959 of different things people are doing. Well. 2621 02:53:33.040 --> 02:53:36.479 TU is the same way. Tu is the Chinese owned app, 2622 02:53:36.520 --> 02:53:39.559 and it is being used to install spywear into your. 2623 02:53:39.479 --> 02:53:44.360 Phone and exactly all that collects information information that could 2624 02:53:44.399 --> 02:53:48.520 potentially blackmail you. That they could potentially blackmail you with 2625 02:53:49.079 --> 02:53:52.280 information that gives you you know, you know, your how 2626 02:53:52.319 --> 02:53:56.440 you think, how you what you like, so they can create. 2627 02:53:57.559 --> 02:54:00.440 Because these kids that are using TikTok, they're going to 2628 02:54:00.520 --> 02:54:03.079 grow up. You know, they're not going to remain kids. 2629 02:54:03.399 --> 02:54:05.559 They're going to grow up. These teenagers are going to 2630 02:54:05.559 --> 02:54:08.799 grow up. They're gonna end up, you know, working in 2631 02:54:08.959 --> 02:54:11.319 different you know, not all of them, but many of 2632 02:54:11.319 --> 02:54:13.479 them are going to end up working in different industries, 2633 02:54:13.680 --> 02:54:16.639 whether it's the tech industry or even in the federal government. 2634 02:54:17.399 --> 02:54:21.719 And so China has all this data and you know, 2635 02:54:21.799 --> 02:54:24.680 they track all these people and whenever they need someone, 2636 02:54:25.399 --> 02:54:29.200 they're like Okay, this is this person's vulnerability, this is 2637 02:54:29.239 --> 02:54:31.440 what they like, This is how we can get to them, 2638 02:54:31.760 --> 02:54:33.680 this is how we'll shape them. Because like even when 2639 02:54:33.719 --> 02:54:39.559 I started, for example, when I started, like our own 2640 02:54:39.879 --> 02:54:43.600 organizations in the diaspora, many of them were viciously against me, 2641 02:54:44.719 --> 02:54:48.680 against me even saying Eastern Kastan, even calling it a genocide. 2642 02:54:48.680 --> 02:54:52.360 And I was like, what the why? Yeah, yeah, I 2643 02:54:52.399 --> 02:54:55.440 was like what the fuck? You know, like, excuse my language. 2644 02:54:55.280 --> 02:54:57.040 Bro be, We're good, you good cuss here? 2645 02:54:57.079 --> 02:54:59.280 For sure, I was like, what the hell is going on? 2646 02:55:01.639 --> 02:55:06.319 And I was just dumbfounded. But then again I was like, okay, 2647 02:55:06.440 --> 02:55:08.920 maybe you know. I mean, I knew even in my 2648 02:55:10.559 --> 02:55:13.520 policy proposal, I highlighted the fact that you know, China 2649 02:55:13.520 --> 02:55:18.120 had deeply infiltrated our diaspora, our organizations, a lot of 2650 02:55:18.120 --> 02:55:20.399 people were you know, held hostage, and this is why 2651 02:55:20.920 --> 02:55:22.959 you know, many of them might be reluctant. But if 2652 02:55:22.959 --> 02:55:28.040 the US was too properly support and you know, you know, at. 2653 02:55:28.040 --> 02:55:30.639 Least I recognize it and talk about it and make 2654 02:55:30.719 --> 02:55:31.520 policies to. 2655 02:55:31.520 --> 02:55:34.399 Help you in at leasnowledged. 2656 02:55:34.559 --> 02:55:38.399 Has Trump even seen this, like, has it actually gotten 2657 02:55:38.440 --> 02:55:39.280 up to him yet? 2658 02:55:40.159 --> 02:55:45.639 I mean, it has. I mean, his initial administration recognizes 2659 02:55:45.639 --> 02:55:49.559 as genocide. Then there were you know, but. 2660 02:55:49.559 --> 02:55:51.719 He just also got done with a big tariff war 2661 02:55:51.760 --> 02:55:53.920 with g and he's not going to do anything to 2662 02:55:54.040 --> 02:55:57.799 upset the current very very loose balance that he is 2663 02:55:57.840 --> 02:55:59.000 accumulated for himself. 2664 02:55:59.600 --> 02:56:03.120 Scott Best, And I was reading an article earlier this 2665 02:56:03.159 --> 02:56:07.520 week or last week where Treasures Treasury secretary of Scott 2666 02:56:07.600 --> 02:56:12.040 but allegedly apparently I don't know, one can't confirm it, 2667 02:56:12.079 --> 02:56:15.799 but this is what the news report was saying. Give 2668 02:56:16.079 --> 02:56:21.520 gave directives, an internal directive to you know, the various 2669 02:56:21.559 --> 02:56:26.000 government agencies and told them to refrain from doing anything 2670 02:56:26.079 --> 02:56:30.639 that would upset China. Of course, and of course this 2671 02:56:30.760 --> 02:56:34.760 is why, like Rubio, so coming back to this, our 2672 02:56:34.799 --> 02:56:38.639 own people were my own people. Are organizations, are human 2673 02:56:38.719 --> 02:56:42.079 rights organizations proviciously against me. And I was like, what 2674 02:56:42.159 --> 02:56:45.360 the hell, even though I have no beef with them, 2675 02:56:45.600 --> 02:56:49.719 I was like, okay, like you don't accept my way, Okay, fine, 2676 02:56:49.760 --> 02:56:52.479 do your own thing. I'm not against you. I'm not 2677 02:56:52.520 --> 02:56:56.360 here trying to, you know, really replace you or compete 2678 02:56:56.440 --> 02:57:00.200 with you. I'm just doing what I believe is the best. 2679 02:57:00.440 --> 02:57:04.680 Yeah. So that's the thing when politics get involved to 2680 02:57:04.760 --> 02:57:06.559 that level everything. 2681 02:57:08.200 --> 02:57:12.520 They sent people to try to buy me off my 2682 02:57:12.639 --> 02:57:17.600 own people, whoa Yeah, they sent people to try to 2683 02:57:17.600 --> 02:57:21.200 buy me off when I refused, like literally saying, oh, 2684 02:57:21.319 --> 02:57:24.600 you know, you need to stop saying independence. You need 2685 02:57:24.639 --> 02:57:26.280 to stop saying East Trekistan. 2686 02:57:26.600 --> 02:57:29.920 What was the number? If you don't mind me asking, I. 2687 02:57:29.879 --> 02:57:33.280 Mean that they didn't give like a specific number. 2688 02:57:33.319 --> 02:57:33.399 This. 2689 02:57:33.799 --> 02:57:36.440 You know, if you need money, we can give you 2690 02:57:36.520 --> 02:57:37.959 money if you want. 2691 02:57:38.079 --> 02:57:40.159 You know, if you want to say you have a 2692 02:57:40.200 --> 02:57:42.520 massive target on your back, if. 2693 02:57:42.360 --> 02:57:45.040 You want to be a leader of the community, we 2694 02:57:45.120 --> 02:57:47.440 can give that to you as well. But you need 2695 02:57:47.479 --> 02:57:49.559 to listen to us. See stop saying. 2696 02:57:49.959 --> 02:57:52.200 The point that she just made leads me to my 2697 02:57:52.239 --> 02:57:55.479 next question. Bro, So you are a man that keeps 2698 02:57:55.479 --> 02:57:58.079 your finger on the pulse of the political spectrum and 2699 02:57:58.120 --> 02:58:00.920 the more obscure stories of what's going down down. So 2700 02:58:01.040 --> 02:58:05.120 you know that the CCP got caught operating any legal 2701 02:58:05.200 --> 02:58:07.559 police station in New York City and that's not the 2702 02:58:07.600 --> 02:58:10.520 only one they have. My question to you is, with 2703 02:58:10.600 --> 02:58:13.360 the target that you have on your back, are you 2704 02:58:13.840 --> 02:58:16.159 concerned about your personal safety? Man? 2705 02:58:17.120 --> 02:58:21.159 I mean, I am more careful than majority of people 2706 02:58:21.879 --> 02:58:25.680 in terms of where I eat, what I eat, who 2707 02:58:25.719 --> 02:58:31.319 I interact with, you know, where I go. I'm very 2708 02:58:31.319 --> 02:58:34.520 careful in terms of that. But I don't think the 2709 02:58:35.280 --> 02:58:38.879 like the Chinese are not going to try to physically 2710 02:58:39.319 --> 02:58:45.879 take me out anytime soon. No, no, why But because 2711 02:58:46.000 --> 02:58:48.120 right now I'm just a nuisance to them. I'm not 2712 02:58:48.319 --> 02:58:51.079 like I'm a nuisance in this in the sense that 2713 02:58:51.959 --> 02:58:53.239 this guy is annoying us. 2714 02:58:53.520 --> 02:58:56.280 You haven't gained enough traction yet, and you're also an 2715 02:58:56.280 --> 02:58:57.239 American citizen. 2716 02:58:57.799 --> 02:59:01.479 Exactly exactly, this guy is annoying us. You know, he's 2717 02:59:01.520 --> 02:59:05.280 really you know, bringing up this East Pakistan issue, but 2718 02:59:05.680 --> 02:59:10.399 no government's acting upon it, so there's no need. If 2719 02:59:10.399 --> 02:59:12.760 they act upon it, then they'll they'll go for for 2720 02:59:12.799 --> 02:59:15.280 the kill, like the way or if you know, if 2721 02:59:15.319 --> 02:59:18.440 there was something meaningful happening, then they would go Like 2722 02:59:18.479 --> 02:59:21.559 if I was if this was the nineteen nineties where 2723 02:59:22.239 --> 02:59:24.879 I was in Central Asia and I was rallying thousands 2724 02:59:24.920 --> 02:59:28.959 of people and you know, planning and aren't uprising, Yeah 2725 02:59:29.000 --> 02:59:30.319 they would they would go fill the kill. 2726 02:59:30.440 --> 02:59:33.319 Now, so the more successful you aren't this, the more 2727 02:59:33.440 --> 02:59:35.639 dangerous it becomes for you personally. 2728 02:59:36.239 --> 02:59:40.879 Yes, but I'm also in the US, so I'm not 2729 02:59:40.959 --> 02:59:43.879 going to try to do anything stupid in the US, 2730 02:59:43.920 --> 02:59:46.040 because the US is not one of those countries that's 2731 02:59:46.079 --> 02:59:47.479 going to be like, all right, I'm just going to 2732 02:59:47.520 --> 02:59:49.680 turn a blind eye to you for killing my citizen 2733 02:59:49.879 --> 02:59:53.799 because it's not about me being killed. It's more about 2734 02:59:53.840 --> 02:59:57.280 the US's own reputation on the line. So the US 2735 02:59:57.440 --> 02:59:59.319 is not, you know, as a state, is not going 2736 02:59:59.360 --> 03:00:01.520 to accept that. The China understands that. 2737 03:00:01.799 --> 03:00:03.600 Do you live in d C or do you stay 2738 03:00:03.600 --> 03:00:04.319 like in Virginia. 2739 03:00:05.239 --> 03:00:07.600 I live right outside of DC and like Fairfax. 2740 03:00:07.920 --> 03:00:10.159 Okay, so you're in VA, so you carry? 2741 03:00:10.120 --> 03:00:10.200 Ye? 2742 03:00:11.159 --> 03:00:15.120 Oh good, Virginia has some pretty decent gun laws. You carry. 2743 03:00:16.280 --> 03:00:19.280 I mean, I don't like to say I carry, but 2744 03:00:19.360 --> 03:00:20.840 I have one another one. 2745 03:00:21.239 --> 03:00:23.799 Shit, bro at all fucking times. Know we ain't playing 2746 03:00:23.799 --> 03:00:24.879 in this game, no doubt you. 2747 03:00:25.000 --> 03:00:26.559 Shit, especially for you man. 2748 03:00:27.120 --> 03:00:28.760 Well, I mean, you can't carry it into d C. 2749 03:00:28.920 --> 03:00:30.600 But do We were just there a couple of weeks ago. 2750 03:00:30.639 --> 03:00:33.280 As a matter of fact, I when I was stationed 2751 03:00:33.319 --> 03:00:35.520 in d C from ten to fourteen. Don't even wrong 2752 03:00:35.600 --> 03:00:37.120 the city. Yeah, the closer you are to like the 2753 03:00:37.200 --> 03:00:40.040 National Mall, the safer it was because the touristy areas. 2754 03:00:40.360 --> 03:00:44.479 I lived in Southeast, which was shit at that time, 2755 03:00:45.440 --> 03:00:49.319 and then I was staying in Alexandria, which is horrible. 2756 03:00:50.440 --> 03:00:52.639 We just went there. There are so many National Guard 2757 03:00:52.639 --> 03:00:54.479 troops there. Yeah, you get that one shooting that just 2758 03:00:54.520 --> 03:00:57.719 took place, and rip to the National Guard soldier that 2759 03:00:57.799 --> 03:01:01.600 lost her life. But I have never seen the city 2760 03:01:01.639 --> 03:01:05.600 more safe overall than now, which is insane. 2761 03:01:05.959 --> 03:01:07.600 Have you been able to be picked up by the 2762 03:01:07.639 --> 03:01:10.680 news stations and I've. 2763 03:01:10.520 --> 03:01:13.760 Done, Yeah, I've been picked up by dozens of news. 2764 03:01:13.520 --> 03:01:15.799 So it's kind of just at a standstill because of 2765 03:01:15.840 --> 03:01:17.360 COVID and the. 2766 03:01:17.319 --> 03:01:18.079 Policy got here. 2767 03:01:18.479 --> 03:01:24.239 Yeah, in the early twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, 2768 03:01:24.600 --> 03:01:26.159 twenty twenty one, it was. 2769 03:01:26.399 --> 03:01:28.920 You know, you're making actual movement. 2770 03:01:29.200 --> 03:01:32.319 Yeah, I mean we we got the US to recognize 2771 03:01:32.360 --> 03:01:35.600 it as a genocide. We got a dozen European parliam 2772 03:01:35.879 --> 03:01:39.280 countries to recognize it as genocide. We were We got 2773 03:01:40.000 --> 03:01:43.280 the State Department to sanctioned Chinese officials. We got the 2774 03:01:43.319 --> 03:01:46.719 State Department to d list the so called ETI M narrative, 2775 03:01:47.120 --> 03:01:51.639 you know, push back against China's bullshit false flag. We 2776 03:01:52.120 --> 03:01:54.920 had made a lot of success. We got the US 2777 03:01:54.959 --> 03:02:00.600 to ban we were forced labor products. But after COVID 2778 03:02:00.639 --> 03:02:04.239 and then after you know, the Russian invasion of Ukraine, 2779 03:02:04.559 --> 03:02:08.920 our issue like flew off the the radar unfortunately got 2780 03:02:08.959 --> 03:02:12.879 pushed out by other conflicts. Now coming back to I 2781 03:02:13.319 --> 03:02:15.440 like what the Chinese. You know, we were talking about 2782 03:02:16.040 --> 03:02:19.639 the what the Chinese might do. So what they did 2783 03:02:19.760 --> 03:02:21.840 is so initially they try to buy me off, like 2784 03:02:22.760 --> 03:02:28.600 we'll give you, you know, if you want money, we'll give 2785 03:02:28.600 --> 03:02:32.079 you money using my own people. Again, using my own people, 2786 03:02:32.520 --> 03:02:36.440 some who I thought previously were you know, leaders of 2787 03:02:36.479 --> 03:02:43.639 my people. Less yeah. Yeah. Then when that didn't work, 2788 03:02:45.239 --> 03:02:51.239 they started to make open threats, you know, using social 2789 03:02:51.280 --> 03:02:55.559 media and using their followers, they began to create you know, 2790 03:02:57.159 --> 03:03:01.239 disinformation against me, like, oh, he is a drug addict, 2791 03:03:01.319 --> 03:03:04.000 he got you know, he got kicked out of the 2792 03:03:04.120 --> 03:03:06.399 army for being a bad soldier, all this type of 2793 03:03:09.159 --> 03:03:11.719 he's a drug dealer, all this type of ship like 2794 03:03:11.719 --> 03:03:15.959 like things that have you know, zero truth to it. 2795 03:03:16.719 --> 03:03:20.360 But of course many people don't know who I am, 2796 03:03:20.680 --> 03:03:24.159 and I couldn't speak my own language as properly and 2797 03:03:24.239 --> 03:03:27.639 as effective as I can now, you know, because I 2798 03:03:27.680 --> 03:03:30.520 had it interacted with my own people for a very 2799 03:03:30.520 --> 03:03:31.000 long time. 2800 03:03:31.120 --> 03:03:32.760 Yeah, if you don't use it, you lose. As far 2801 03:03:32.799 --> 03:03:33.959 as languages. 2802 03:03:33.520 --> 03:03:38.639 Go, the the the level of you know, communication you 2803 03:03:38.719 --> 03:03:42.079 have between your parents at home and the words that 2804 03:03:42.120 --> 03:03:46.520 you use is very limited compared to you know, professional politics. 2805 03:03:46.600 --> 03:03:47.159 Oh, for sure. 2806 03:03:48.159 --> 03:03:53.760 It was challenging. So that didn't That didn't you know all, 2807 03:03:53.840 --> 03:03:57.040 that didn't stop me. I didn't give a crap, and 2808 03:03:57.200 --> 03:04:00.040 I said, I I don't care. I said, I'm not 2809 03:04:00.079 --> 03:04:03.520 going to sell. They threatened me with my family members 2810 03:04:03.559 --> 03:04:06.959 back home. They're like, oh, you know, at least think 2811 03:04:06.959 --> 03:04:09.120 about your family back there. You know, they could kill them. 2812 03:04:09.159 --> 03:04:12.000 I said, let them, let them. I'm not going to 2813 03:04:12.479 --> 03:04:15.760 trade you know, ten fifteen, one hundred and one thousand 2814 03:04:15.760 --> 03:04:18.319 of my family members for the lives of forty five 2815 03:04:18.319 --> 03:04:24.760 million people, right not h that's insane. I mean I 2816 03:04:24.840 --> 03:04:26.799 might you might think me, oh, that's you don't care 2817 03:04:26.840 --> 03:04:29.239 about your family. Of course I do. But the only 2818 03:04:29.239 --> 03:04:33.239 way to save my family permanently and sure save everyone 2819 03:04:33.719 --> 03:04:37.399 is save everyone. Yeah, at the end of the day, 2820 03:04:37.440 --> 03:04:40.239 if they're not coming for them today, they're going to 2821 03:04:40.280 --> 03:04:43.520 come for them tomorrow. Anyway, even those I told them, 2822 03:04:43.559 --> 03:04:47.399 even those, even you your own families right now, you're 2823 03:04:47.440 --> 03:04:51.239 you're cooperating with the Chinese. You're betraying your own people 2824 03:04:51.280 --> 03:04:55.159 despite what's happening, and you think that you're protecting your 2825 03:04:55.200 --> 03:05:00.280 family members there. Even when they're finished with us, they're 2826 03:05:00.280 --> 03:05:03.680 gonna come finish you off too. Even you're the most 2827 03:05:03.840 --> 03:05:07.879 loyal of youth servants, you traders, They're gonna come finish 2828 03:05:07.879 --> 03:05:10.799 you off too, because that's your endgame. It's not just 2829 03:05:10.840 --> 03:05:15.319 about targeting, oh, those who advocate for independence only and 2830 03:05:15.360 --> 03:05:19.520 then you know, letting those who don't advocate for independence survive. 2831 03:05:19.639 --> 03:05:22.520 No, they want they want all of you gone. I mean, 2832 03:05:22.559 --> 03:05:24.680 that's a it's a true genocide through and through. 2833 03:05:25.000 --> 03:05:30.799 And so when that when that field, they sent honeypots. 2834 03:05:31.600 --> 03:05:35.520 At that time, I wasn't married. So they sent young women, 2835 03:05:35.760 --> 03:05:41.120 you know, repeatedly, repeatedly, and then one person, one woman 2836 03:05:41.200 --> 03:05:46.840 they brought all the way over from Turkey. And this individual, 2837 03:05:49.840 --> 03:05:55.000 like I suspected she was a Chinese spy, like professional spy, 2838 03:05:55.559 --> 03:05:58.559 just based on the fact that my first interaction with her, 2839 03:05:59.520 --> 03:06:03.440 she was holding three phones and again she was trying 2840 03:06:03.479 --> 03:06:07.000 to persuade me to stop saying East Turkistan, to stop. 2841 03:06:07.399 --> 03:06:13.120 You know, she's a ship spot in God like, so 2842 03:06:13.159 --> 03:06:16.360 straight up, a woman carrying three phones massive red flag. 2843 03:06:16.680 --> 03:06:20.079 I could see two at most, but three. There's something crazy. 2844 03:06:20.399 --> 03:06:22.399 And then this woman that you're meeting for the first 2845 03:06:22.440 --> 03:06:25.319 time and they're trying to like, you know, seduce you 2846 03:06:25.360 --> 03:06:27.079 in some way. It's trying to get you to quit 2847 03:06:27.120 --> 03:06:31.040 saying East Turks Stand, which most people have never heard of, Like. 2848 03:06:31.360 --> 03:06:34.000 Yeah, and I'm just like what, like what. 2849 03:06:34.520 --> 03:06:37.079 Yeah, massive red flags on the play on this Like 2850 03:06:37.120 --> 03:06:38.520 that's fucking crazy. 2851 03:06:39.200 --> 03:06:43.520 Immediately I was like, I told the it's not. This 2852 03:06:43.600 --> 03:06:46.600 is not in a secluded area. There's people around me, 2853 03:06:46.879 --> 03:06:51.399 you know, everyone. I'm just looking at We're all looking 2854 03:06:51.399 --> 03:06:56.719 at each other, and I'm like, all right, I said, 2855 03:06:56.760 --> 03:06:58.559 I think you're in the wrong place. I told her 2856 03:06:58.639 --> 03:07:00.479 nice that. I said, I think you're in the wrong place. 2857 03:07:02.440 --> 03:07:06.040 I think you should leave. So that was that. A 2858 03:07:06.079 --> 03:07:09.200 couple of weeks, A couple of weeks went by, and 2859 03:07:09.239 --> 03:07:13.319 then this is what happens. A couple of weeks went 2860 03:07:13.360 --> 03:07:16.680 by after this incident, and then as I'm pushing for 2861 03:07:16.719 --> 03:07:21.159 a Weaker Policy Act, I go into the US Congress 2862 03:07:21.200 --> 03:07:26.559 and this is the conspiracy part. We're pushing for a 2863 03:07:26.559 --> 03:07:31.520 Weaker Policy Act, and I come across numerous congressional offices 2864 03:07:31.559 --> 03:07:33.680 were like, we remember signing on to something like this 2865 03:07:33.799 --> 03:07:36.760 years ago, and I thought this. I thought this was 2866 03:07:36.840 --> 03:07:40.280 like me, first time I'm ever doing this, you know. 2867 03:07:41.120 --> 03:07:45.079 And then I was like, all right, they're probably confusing 2868 03:07:45.120 --> 03:07:48.559 us with the Tibetans. Let's move on to the next office. Again. 2869 03:07:48.959 --> 03:07:54.079 We had drafted a twenty eight page policy you know, 2870 03:07:54.440 --> 03:07:57.000 Wager Policy Act, bottled it off in the Tibetan Policy Act, 2871 03:07:57.000 --> 03:07:59.239 and we're trying to hand it to you know, I'm 2872 03:07:59.239 --> 03:08:04.000 trying to find this sponsored. And finally, after a week 2873 03:08:04.079 --> 03:08:06.399 of us doing this, you know, several weeks of this 2874 03:08:06.680 --> 03:08:10.479 went by, and we reached one off we reached four offices. 2875 03:08:10.520 --> 03:08:13.319 That's again say the same things we remember signing on 2876 03:08:13.360 --> 03:08:16.120 to something like this several years ago. So I was like, oh, 2877 03:08:16.159 --> 03:08:18.079 this is after the fourth one. I was like, this 2878 03:08:18.120 --> 03:08:20.799 is not a coincidence. They're not mistakens with the Tibetans. 2879 03:08:21.680 --> 03:08:24.479 So I was like, do you remember who sponsored this 2880 03:08:24.559 --> 03:08:28.479 bill that you're talking about or who's leading this bill? 2881 03:08:29.120 --> 03:08:33.319 And that office was like it was Congressome the ross lettinhand. 2882 03:08:34.239 --> 03:08:37.559 So immediately I look up on my phone ross Lettenhan. 2883 03:08:37.719 --> 03:08:39.479 I was like, all right, let's go to her office. 2884 03:08:39.799 --> 03:08:41.959 Immediately after that, we go straight to her. I go 2885 03:08:42.040 --> 03:08:45.520 straight to her office. I send the others to continued 2886 03:08:45.600 --> 03:08:48.520 like the others on our team. I was like, you 2887 03:08:48.680 --> 03:08:50.840 hit up the other offices. Let me let me go 2888 03:08:50.879 --> 03:08:53.639 figure out what's going on with the Ross Latinhan. So 2889 03:08:53.680 --> 03:08:57.760 when I went there, I'm sitting there like I asked 2890 03:08:57.799 --> 03:09:02.479 to meet with her foreign policy, you know, Stafford, and 2891 03:09:04.360 --> 03:09:06.600 I'm trying to explain to the foreign policy start for 2892 03:09:06.680 --> 03:09:09.159 like fifteen minutes, and they're still not understanding what the 2893 03:09:09.200 --> 03:09:12.000 heck I'm talking about. So I was like, all right. 2894 03:09:12.120 --> 03:09:15.680 Finally the congresswoman herself comes out because she left her 2895 03:09:15.719 --> 03:09:19.639 door open and she was apparently eavesdropping on our conversation 2896 03:09:19.799 --> 03:09:23.040 or I was very loud. Possibly I was very loud, 2897 03:09:23.120 --> 03:09:26.479 maybe both. And so she comes out and she's like, 2898 03:09:26.559 --> 03:09:28.680 are you with the same weaker organization? And I was 2899 03:09:28.719 --> 03:09:34.319 like like what, and she's like the World week in Congress. 2900 03:09:34.360 --> 03:09:37.040 I was like, no, no, no, no, I have nothing 2901 03:09:37.079 --> 03:09:38.680 to do with him. Those are the ones that are 2902 03:09:38.799 --> 03:09:41.120 you know, I've been trying to buy me off and 2903 03:09:41.120 --> 03:09:46.719 sabotage my advocacy. So then she was like okay, good 2904 03:09:46.760 --> 03:09:49.239 because I don't work with the irresponsible people. I was like, WHOA, 2905 03:09:49.520 --> 03:09:53.399 what's going on? Like I was like, I'm very confused. 2906 03:09:53.879 --> 03:09:57.280 She's like after the two thousand and nine rumci massacred. 2907 03:09:57.319 --> 03:09:59.120 I forgot to mention that in two thousand and nine 2908 03:09:59.159 --> 03:10:03.520 there is a massacre that happened after protests. So what 2909 03:10:03.639 --> 03:10:08.799 initiated this protest was China, even at that time, was 2910 03:10:08.840 --> 03:10:12.879 forcibly transferring our youth to work as forced labor in 2911 03:10:12.959 --> 03:10:17.719 Chinese cities. So hundreds of wigers have been transferred to 2912 03:10:17.920 --> 03:10:20.920 a toy factory in Guangdong. And this is why YouTube 2913 03:10:21.000 --> 03:10:26.920 is banned, is because these weaker laborers, forced labors are 2914 03:10:26.959 --> 03:10:31.479 paid very low compared to the Chinese, if anything, very low, 2915 03:10:32.840 --> 03:10:36.200 and so the Chinese company decided to fire, you know, 2916 03:10:36.280 --> 03:10:39.520 some Chinese workers. So the Chinese workers that got fired, 2917 03:10:39.559 --> 03:10:43.040 they spread rumors that the Vigers tried to rape you know, 2918 03:10:43.120 --> 03:10:47.239 the Chinese a girl in female employees at the factory, 2919 03:10:47.719 --> 03:10:52.639 and a mob of thousands of Chinese workers armed with 2920 03:10:52.799 --> 03:10:56.200 clubs and you know different you know, pikes and stuff, 2921 03:10:56.719 --> 03:10:59.879 stormed the dormitory of that factory where the wagers were. 2922 03:11:00.040 --> 03:11:04.799 The am and they you know, engaged in a brutal 2923 03:11:05.200 --> 03:11:08.079 you know, attacks against them, to where dozens of them 2924 03:11:08.079 --> 03:11:13.040 were killed, hundreds were injured, and all all of this 2925 03:11:13.280 --> 03:11:16.280 was put up on YouTube by who, by the Chinese 2926 03:11:16.280 --> 03:11:20.440 attackers themselves, stating that, you know, oh, look at how 2927 03:11:20.440 --> 03:11:25.840 many wagers I killed. And after that, our people in 2928 03:11:25.959 --> 03:11:29.760 East na Kistan saw this and they were outraged, and 2929 03:11:29.840 --> 03:11:34.280 so they organized the peaceful demonstration in asked carrying the 2930 03:11:34.360 --> 03:11:38.360 Chinese flag, asking for you know, an investigation and justice 2931 03:11:38.360 --> 03:11:41.959 and accountability, and what does the CCP do. They were 2932 03:11:41.959 --> 03:11:46.719 a bunch of separatists, terrorists and they kill everybody in 2933 03:11:46.760 --> 03:11:50.239 a massacre. And so I did that. That made some 2934 03:11:50.319 --> 03:11:53.639 headlines in two thousand and nine, and so the US 2935 03:11:53.840 --> 03:11:57.479 Congress was like, to our existing human rights groups, let's 2936 03:11:57.520 --> 03:11:59.920 do something for you, like what we did for the Tibetans. 2937 03:12:00.040 --> 03:12:03.680 Let's try to help your people and our own groups. 2938 03:12:03.719 --> 03:12:11.760 Because uh refused because the Congressman rust Latin hand Congressman Russelton, 2939 03:12:11.799 --> 03:12:14.120 and she was the head of the Foreign Affairs Committee 2940 03:12:14.159 --> 03:12:16.760 at the time, the House Foreign Affairs Committee. She was 2941 03:12:16.760 --> 03:12:20.000 from Florida, and this was her telling me this. If 2942 03:12:20.280 --> 03:12:22.840 anyone else told me this, I would have not believed it. 2943 03:12:23.159 --> 03:12:26.000 But This was her telling me this. I would have 2944 03:12:26.000 --> 03:12:27.760 not believed that. If if I heard it from anyone else, 2945 03:12:27.760 --> 03:12:31.600 I would be like, no way. And she's like Congressman 2946 03:12:31.799 --> 03:12:35.239 Donald Worabacker, he used to doing the Soviet during the 2947 03:12:35.239 --> 03:12:38.959 Reagan era. He used to be stafford for Ronald Reagan, 2948 03:12:39.399 --> 03:12:42.479 so he knew about Soviet Union. He knew about Turkistan 2949 03:12:42.559 --> 03:12:46.760 more than anyone else. So in that bill that they 2950 03:12:46.799 --> 03:12:51.040 had drafted, the Weaker Policy Act, he used the term 2951 03:12:51.200 --> 03:12:55.520 occupied East Turkestan, and he's like, we're not going to 2952 03:12:55.600 --> 03:12:58.079 call it, Shane Jong. We're going to call it occupied 2953 03:12:58.120 --> 03:13:04.000 East Turkistan. It and our own human rights groups were like, no, no, no, no, no no, 2954 03:13:04.239 --> 03:13:08.319 we can't call that that. We can't use this term this, 2955 03:13:10.920 --> 03:13:16.159 And she said after and I got she said, I 2956 03:13:16.200 --> 03:13:18.879 got like fifteen co sponsors for it. And I told him, 2957 03:13:18.920 --> 03:13:21.440 you know, go go grab some more, go get some 2958 03:13:21.559 --> 03:13:26.239 from the Democrat side because she's Republican, and let's let's 2959 03:13:26.319 --> 03:13:31.440 introduce this bill. And our own groups sabotaged it for 2960 03:13:31.479 --> 03:13:37.959 two years. They repeatedly ignored her, their calls, their messages, 2961 03:13:38.000 --> 03:13:43.280 their emails, and so immediately after hearing that, I'm very pissed. 2962 03:13:43.440 --> 03:13:46.760 You can't imagine how pissed I am. And I told her, 2963 03:13:46.840 --> 03:13:50.360 I told her, look, we have nothing to do with those. 2964 03:13:50.600 --> 03:13:54.280 We are a young generation of Wigers. You might have 2965 03:13:54.360 --> 03:13:56.159 seen us. We've been out there in front of the 2966 03:13:56.159 --> 03:13:59.079 White House, in front of the US Capital at that time. 2967 03:13:59.120 --> 03:14:03.760 We were doing both protests, demonstrations from nine am to 2968 03:14:03.879 --> 03:14:07.920 five Monday through Friday. This is in June of twenty eighteen, 2969 03:14:09.840 --> 03:14:13.719 and you know, going in door to door, you know, 2970 03:14:13.799 --> 03:14:19.319 engaging an advocacy, trying to get an office to introduce 2971 03:14:19.360 --> 03:14:24.200 our our you know, our bill. Right. So I'm super pissed. 2972 03:14:24.680 --> 03:14:26.719 And I was like, all right, at that time, who 2973 03:14:26.799 --> 03:14:31.799 was the leaders of these organizations? And I know one, 2974 03:14:32.639 --> 03:14:36.399 which is Rabia Kadir. So I go to her and 2975 03:14:37.719 --> 03:14:40.959 at first I said, you know, how's anyone in the US, 2976 03:14:42.280 --> 03:14:47.239 whether it's government, Congress, anyone come to ever before about 2977 03:14:47.319 --> 03:14:50.040 you know, introducing a weaker policy or some kind of 2978 03:14:50.159 --> 03:14:53.840 legislation for our people. She's like no, no, but I 2979 03:14:53.879 --> 03:14:56.319 could tell she's kind of lying because she was kind 2980 03:14:56.319 --> 03:14:59.520 of startled by the question R And I was like, look, 2981 03:14:59.840 --> 03:15:08.000 are are you sure. She's like no, no, nothing like 2982 03:15:08.040 --> 03:15:11.920 that happened She's like, why are you asking this? And 2983 03:15:12.000 --> 03:15:16.879 I was like, I heard something from a congress woman 2984 03:15:18.879 --> 03:15:23.879 And at first she denied it. Luckily, Congresswoman Russ Blatinhanna 2985 03:15:23.879 --> 03:15:26.719 and I we had she had taken an official photo 2986 03:15:26.799 --> 03:15:29.000 with me, and I had taken a selfie with her 2987 03:15:29.399 --> 03:15:32.920 on my cell phone. So I the picture. She her 2988 03:15:33.000 --> 03:15:37.520 face drops and she's like, oh, I must be getting old, right, 2989 03:15:38.000 --> 03:15:41.920 I'm sure you know she's in her seventies. So I 2990 03:15:41.959 --> 03:15:44.600 was like, okay, and you know, she's like, I must 2991 03:15:44.600 --> 03:15:48.440 be getting old. Yes, it's slip. And she's like and 2992 03:15:48.479 --> 03:15:51.600 she confirms what happened. But she's like, you not talked 2993 03:15:51.600 --> 03:15:52.120 about this. 2994 03:15:53.360 --> 03:15:56.040 But clearly we have to talk about this shit. 2995 03:15:56.319 --> 03:15:59.000 Yeah. Yeah. So she's like, you cannot talk about this 2996 03:15:59.239 --> 03:16:01.479 or they will destroy I was like, whose day. She's like, 2997 03:16:01.520 --> 03:16:04.440 there's a powerful family. I was like, who is it. 2998 03:16:04.760 --> 03:16:08.159 She's like, I can't tell you. I can't tell you. 2999 03:16:10.479 --> 03:16:12.719 Do you know who this family is now? Is still 3000 03:16:12.719 --> 03:16:13.159 a secret? 3001 03:16:14.200 --> 03:16:18.959 I know, I know very well. They are indeed very powerful. 3002 03:16:18.920 --> 03:16:24.920 In China or in America in both. Can you say that? 3003 03:16:25.120 --> 03:16:27.319 Or is it still well watched? 3004 03:16:27.600 --> 03:16:28.879 So well? 3005 03:16:29.280 --> 03:16:32.360 So let me let me a conspiracy podcast. 3006 03:16:34.079 --> 03:16:37.440 So She's like, don't ever mention this, don't ever talk 3007 03:16:37.479 --> 03:16:40.959 about this. Just pretend that you never heard this. Just 3008 03:16:41.040 --> 03:16:45.840 do your own thing. And for about a week I 3009 03:16:45.879 --> 03:16:50.959 was like all right, and then something kept eating inside me. 3010 03:16:51.040 --> 03:16:54.440 I was like, nah, if I keep this from a 3011 03:16:54.520 --> 03:16:57.879 secret from my own people, then I'll be the same 3012 03:16:57.920 --> 03:17:01.079 as these traders, right, And I was like, fuck, no, 3013 03:17:01.159 --> 03:17:02.239 I'm not going to do that. 3014 03:17:02.239 --> 03:17:02.680 That's right. 3015 03:17:02.840 --> 03:17:04.799 Yeah. If I went back to Rabia, I was like, 3016 03:17:04.840 --> 03:17:07.319 you have to tell the people, and she's like, no, 3017 03:17:07.440 --> 03:17:11.440 I can't. She said no, no, no, no, people will 3018 03:17:11.479 --> 03:17:14.000 never forgive me. I said, look, you're an old woman. 3019 03:17:15.280 --> 03:17:18.920 You know. Our people, even I up until that point, 3020 03:17:19.079 --> 03:17:21.879 respected her very highly. I was the mother of our nation, 3021 03:17:22.840 --> 03:17:26.000 you know. I was like, our people will forgive you. 3022 03:17:26.239 --> 03:17:29.200 If I can find it in myself to forgive you. 3023 03:17:30.479 --> 03:17:34.959 Our people I'm sure can forgive you as well if 3024 03:17:34.959 --> 03:17:38.840 you properly apologize. But this needs to be no, because 3025 03:17:38.879 --> 03:17:42.479 this cost us. If that bill came out in two 3026 03:17:42.520 --> 03:17:45.879 thousand and nine, even twenty ten, that could have cost us. 3027 03:17:45.959 --> 03:17:47.719 You know that, I was like eight nine years, eight 3028 03:17:47.840 --> 03:17:50.840 nine years where China couldn't have committed genocide against us. 3029 03:17:51.040 --> 03:17:52.559 That costs millions million. 3030 03:17:52.479 --> 03:17:56.239 Lives, exactly millions of lives. I said, you know, this 3031 03:17:56.319 --> 03:17:59.639 is this is unacceptable. You have to tell our people. 3032 03:18:00.680 --> 03:18:03.360 So she kept refusing and I was like, all right, 3033 03:18:04.319 --> 03:18:06.159 so no, no. So I was like all right, I 3034 03:18:06.200 --> 03:18:08.760 was like, Sally, use your brain. She's not going to 3035 03:18:08.799 --> 03:18:12.680 say it until you openly pressure her to do it. 3036 03:18:12.959 --> 03:18:15.559 But I can't let me pressure you right here. I 3037 03:18:15.600 --> 03:18:18.239 was like, I need to get her on camera, a 3038 03:18:18.440 --> 03:18:21.040 live stream. So I was like, all right, can you 3039 03:18:21.120 --> 03:18:26.040 at least tell people to support, you know, our demonstrations, 3040 03:18:26.079 --> 03:18:29.440 to do similar demonstrations and you know, in their host 3041 03:18:29.479 --> 03:18:32.719 countries to try to raise some awareness. She's like that 3042 03:18:32.879 --> 03:18:35.520 I can do. I was like great. I was like, 3043 03:18:35.559 --> 03:18:38.200 all right, let's do a live stream Facebook. 3044 03:18:38.440 --> 03:18:39.000 Yeah. 3045 03:18:39.600 --> 03:18:45.520 Sorry, And then she speaks for like a minute saying, Oh, 3046 03:18:45.639 --> 03:18:49.920 join our son, Sally, and you know, he's been organizing 3047 03:18:49.959 --> 03:18:56.079 this demonstration in front of the the US capital and 3048 03:18:56.159 --> 03:18:57.680 they're also going to do it in front of the 3049 03:18:57.680 --> 03:19:01.239 White House. I encourage people to join. I encourage our 3050 03:19:01.280 --> 03:19:03.559 youth in other countries to do the same thing. Blah 3051 03:19:03.600 --> 03:19:07.840 blah blah. And then I was like, oh, by the way, 3052 03:19:09.040 --> 03:19:16.600 I heard from a congresswoman that some individuals sabotaged the 3053 03:19:16.680 --> 03:19:18.879 two thousand and nine Little Policy Act draft. 3054 03:19:19.799 --> 03:19:20.600 Who would that be? 3055 03:19:21.399 --> 03:19:23.600 I was like, could you tell me about that? And 3056 03:19:23.719 --> 03:19:29.079 her face dropped, Good for you, and then I just 3057 03:19:29.159 --> 03:19:32.719 kept pressing her and like I kept trussing her. She again, 3058 03:19:32.840 --> 03:19:36.559 she refused to say the family the individuals. At first 3059 03:19:36.600 --> 03:19:39.479 she denied it. She was like trying to deny it again. 3060 03:19:40.399 --> 03:19:42.639 And so I pulled up my laptop and I was like, 3061 03:19:42.840 --> 03:19:45.479 it was this congress woman. Because I'm doing live stream 3062 03:19:45.520 --> 03:19:47.399 on my phone. I was like, it was this congress woman. 3063 03:19:47.520 --> 03:19:50.200 I was like, Manna, here's me with her. This is 3064 03:19:50.200 --> 03:19:55.760 what she said, and this is the things. I repeated 3065 03:19:55.840 --> 03:19:59.840 everything she said, and I was like, if I remember correctly, 3066 03:19:59.879 --> 03:20:02.639 you were the head of the w C at that time. 3067 03:20:03.799 --> 03:20:07.399 And then she's like, well, I didn't have a you know, translator. 3068 03:20:07.600 --> 03:20:11.159 I must have mis heard things. And I was like, no, no, no, no, no. 3069 03:20:11.239 --> 03:20:13.959 You could have called on our people. You could have 3070 03:20:14.000 --> 03:20:17.000 said I needed a translator. Our people would have dumped 3071 03:20:17.000 --> 03:20:20.840 their you know, their their their money. My father, my father, 3072 03:20:21.360 --> 03:20:23.799 because my father used to be her biggest supporter. I 3073 03:20:23.840 --> 03:20:30.840 mean he was slave working two jobs in Oklahoma. We 3074 03:20:30.840 --> 03:20:33.159 we grew up like this is a part of me 3075 03:20:33.239 --> 03:20:36.319 that you know, I'm actually not ashamed of saying it. 3076 03:20:36.399 --> 03:20:39.600 Like my father, God blessed this man. The level of 3077 03:20:39.639 --> 03:20:44.479 patriotism in this man, Like we didn't have anything new. 3078 03:20:45.319 --> 03:20:47.639 Everything we had was used, even in our clothes. The 3079 03:20:47.680 --> 03:20:51.079 only time we got anything new clothes was once a 3080 03:20:51.159 --> 03:20:53.760 year on the ed holidays. He would buy us new clothes. 3081 03:20:53.840 --> 03:20:57.559 Everything else from our shoes to her, our jackets, everything else. 3082 03:20:57.600 --> 03:20:59.120 We would buy a groag. 3083 03:20:58.959 --> 03:21:04.920 Sales I love twenty fifty cents a dollar. 3084 03:21:05.040 --> 03:21:08.799 This type of why, it's not that we didn't have 3085 03:21:08.920 --> 03:21:10.840 money or that he didn't have money to do that. 3086 03:21:10.920 --> 03:21:16.520 He would work to do jobs like slaving away because 3087 03:21:16.680 --> 03:21:21.120 he thought these people were fighting for our people. He 3088 03:21:21.200 --> 03:21:24.239 thought they were actually fighting for our people. So he 3089 03:21:24.280 --> 03:21:29.040 would send literally much of what he earned to them 3090 03:21:29.239 --> 03:21:31.079 because they're fighting for. 3091 03:21:31.319 --> 03:21:37.360 Just to have them sabotage piece ship. So you pushed her, 3092 03:21:37.399 --> 03:21:38.959 and you pressed her and pressed her and pressed her, 3093 03:21:39.000 --> 03:21:41.000 and she finally she finally crashed. 3094 03:21:41.920 --> 03:21:45.399 Yeah, she finally cracked. She tried making all these excuses, 3095 03:21:45.399 --> 03:21:48.639 that excuse that, that excuse. I destroyed all her excuses. 3096 03:21:48.879 --> 03:21:49.159 Good. 3097 03:21:49.200 --> 03:21:51.840 I was like people would have donated money like you 3098 03:21:51.840 --> 03:21:54.040 could have done that. She's like, well, I didn't have 3099 03:21:54.280 --> 03:21:58.319 you know, you know this, I didn't know who to call. 3100 03:21:58.559 --> 03:22:00.719 I'm surprised she didn't just hang up the live stream. 3101 03:22:00.959 --> 03:22:03.600 Yeah, well no, I'm doing the live stream like I 3102 03:22:03.639 --> 03:22:06.040 got her, you know, like a very tough spot. 3103 03:22:06.200 --> 03:22:06.520 Yeah. 3104 03:22:06.639 --> 03:22:10.799 And then and like this goes on for about forty 3105 03:22:10.799 --> 03:22:13.799 minutes and then she she ends up. She does She's like, 3106 03:22:13.840 --> 03:22:17.479 I'm tired. After she blurts out one key fact, and 3107 03:22:17.520 --> 03:22:20.479 she said, it's this family. It was the same family 3108 03:22:20.959 --> 03:22:22.680 you know when I had it, because she met with 3109 03:22:22.719 --> 03:22:26.159 George Bush in two thousand and eight. I believe she said, 3110 03:22:26.479 --> 03:22:29.799 I had a different translator, but this family used, you know, 3111 03:22:30.000 --> 03:22:34.280 their their influence to get the sister of this family 3112 03:22:34.479 --> 03:22:37.280 to serve as my translator to Bush. So I don't 3113 03:22:37.319 --> 03:22:40.239 know if she actually fully translated what I wanted said 3114 03:22:40.280 --> 03:22:44.920 to Bush to President Bush. And so this is the one. 3115 03:22:44.959 --> 03:22:46.600 They all knew about it, she said, they all knew 3116 03:22:46.600 --> 03:22:49.879 about it. It was because again the East Takistan issue, 3117 03:22:49.920 --> 03:22:54.559 because China doesn't like this, doesn't want this you ever mentioned. 3118 03:22:56.200 --> 03:23:00.399 And then she's like, after she blurted that out, because 3119 03:23:00.520 --> 03:23:04.159 from everyone who knows that picture of her with Bush. 3120 03:23:04.239 --> 03:23:07.600 There's one other lady in that picture, and everyone knows 3121 03:23:07.600 --> 03:23:12.200 who that person is. She today, she masquades as an activist, 3122 03:23:13.280 --> 03:23:16.600 continues to masquerade that life, but everyone knows who that is, 3123 03:23:17.120 --> 03:23:22.520 and they dominate our diaspora, just like their family in 3124 03:23:22.520 --> 03:23:27.040 East Ta Kistan used to dominate even the autonomous region. 3125 03:23:29.000 --> 03:23:33.319 So this is this is the sad thing. Then Ribio 3126 03:23:33.399 --> 03:23:36.280 was like, oh, I'm getting tired, you know, let's just 3127 03:23:36.399 --> 03:23:40.040 end the here. And I was forced end it. I 3128 03:23:40.040 --> 03:23:43.239 couldn't keep pressing her. I was like all right, And 3129 03:23:43.280 --> 03:23:47.559 then she's like, they will destroy you. You messed up. 3130 03:23:47.639 --> 03:23:50.520 They will destroy you. And I was like, let them try. 3131 03:23:51.040 --> 03:23:51.440 Mm hmm. 3132 03:23:52.959 --> 03:23:58.920 This was July tenth, two thousand and eighteen, live stream. 3133 03:23:59.200 --> 03:24:02.600 The very next July eleventh, Guess who shows up in 3134 03:24:02.600 --> 03:24:06.680 the office in my office, that woman, that young woman 3135 03:24:06.760 --> 03:24:11.360 that came from Turkey. I would only learn years later 3136 03:24:11.399 --> 03:24:16.360 who brought this person from Turkey? All this. So she 3137 03:24:16.520 --> 03:24:22.520 comes in and I'm sitting and she's like, I want 3138 03:24:22.559 --> 03:24:25.639 to help you, guys. I speak this, many languages, that 3139 03:24:25.680 --> 03:24:29.159 many languages. I studied political science, I studied this, I 3140 03:24:29.159 --> 03:24:36.200 studied that, you know, trying to make herself appearing and 3141 03:24:36.319 --> 03:24:39.639 I'm just like, you know, I told you we're not 3142 03:24:39.719 --> 03:24:43.879 interested in working with you. Could you kindly leave? And 3143 03:24:43.920 --> 03:24:46.200 she's like, I'm waiting for Rabia. I was like, Rabia, 3144 03:24:46.239 --> 03:24:49.680 that has nothing to do, you know me, Like she's 3145 03:24:49.719 --> 03:24:52.120 not even here, Like what she's like, Rabia told me 3146 03:24:52.159 --> 03:24:54.680 to be here. So I called Rabia refuge is that call? 3147 03:24:54.840 --> 03:24:57.319 Like picking up? And she just sits there and I'm like, 3148 03:24:57.799 --> 03:25:01.120 if I touch this person, Like in my head, I'm like, 3149 03:25:01.120 --> 03:25:03.520 if I touched this bitch, she's gonna claim that I 3150 03:25:03.559 --> 03:25:06.719 assaulted her. Of course I'm a I'm in a very 3151 03:25:07.719 --> 03:25:11.760 fucked up position right now. I was like, can you leave? 3152 03:25:12.520 --> 03:25:17.600 Please leave? I asked her nicely several times. Then she 3153 03:25:17.799 --> 03:25:20.399 touches me on the hand and she's like, I heard 3154 03:25:20.440 --> 03:25:22.319 you don't like she does this. I heard you don't 3155 03:25:22.360 --> 03:25:27.559 have a girlfriend, you know. Oh yeah, And she's dressed 3156 03:25:27.639 --> 03:25:31.879 up very provocatively as well. I've got to mention that part. 3157 03:25:31.920 --> 03:25:34.200 But I knew as soon as she entered that this 3158 03:25:34.319 --> 03:25:37.520 was this was a trap, but I didn't know who 3159 03:25:37.799 --> 03:25:42.000 the trap was being set by. You know, I didn't 3160 03:25:42.159 --> 03:25:45.239 think of that, and so I told her, you know 3161 03:25:45.319 --> 03:25:48.479 what I said, it's because the people like you, traders 3162 03:25:48.520 --> 03:25:50.239 like you, that's the term I use. It's because of 3163 03:25:50.399 --> 03:25:53.680 traders like you that millions of my people are in 3164 03:25:53.719 --> 03:25:57.200 concentration camps right now, millions of our people are suffering 3165 03:25:57.280 --> 03:26:02.639 right now, and you're over here shamelessly trying to serve 3166 03:26:02.719 --> 03:26:04.760 the Chinese and their interests. I said, get the fuck 3167 03:26:04.840 --> 03:26:06.760 out of my face. Yeah, I said, I don't want 3168 03:26:06.760 --> 03:26:08.440 to ever fucking see you here. Get the fuck out 3169 03:26:08.440 --> 03:26:11.280 of my face, you bitch. And I yelled it so 3170 03:26:11.399 --> 03:26:16.799 loud that because we work in an office works space area, 3171 03:26:16.879 --> 03:26:21.639 the others and the neighboring office is heard and they're like, 3172 03:26:21.959 --> 03:26:25.000 what's going on. I said, this person is annoying me, 3173 03:26:25.440 --> 03:26:27.639 she's leaving, and so she left. 3174 03:26:28.040 --> 03:26:28.639 Good. 3175 03:26:29.399 --> 03:26:33.040 Then, well this is where the funny thing comes. This 3176 03:26:33.079 --> 03:26:39.600 is where the game starts. Then I totally forget about that, 3177 03:26:40.200 --> 03:26:42.639 you know. I was like, ah, this that ruined my day. 3178 03:26:42.680 --> 03:26:44.920 And I called Herbia. She never picks up, and I 3179 03:26:45.000 --> 03:26:48.719 keep calling her, calling her. Finally, at like ten pm, 3180 03:26:48.799 --> 03:26:51.399 she calls me and she's like, oh, I'm sorry I 3181 03:26:51.440 --> 03:26:54.000 missed your call. I was like, I was like, did 3182 03:26:54.040 --> 03:26:57.440 you send this person here? I was like, did this 3183 03:26:57.479 --> 03:27:00.680 person here. She's like, no, no, no, I have no I said, 3184 03:27:00.719 --> 03:27:03.840 this is what this person tried to do. I said, 3185 03:27:03.840 --> 03:27:06.479 who the hell? And she's like oh no no. And 3186 03:27:06.479 --> 03:27:09.399 in my head, I'm still not thinking about, oh, this 3187 03:27:09.479 --> 03:27:12.440 might be a trap from the day before, you know, 3188 03:27:12.680 --> 03:27:19.479 the threat. Several months ago on apparently she filed the 3189 03:27:19.520 --> 03:27:24.719 police report claiming that I threatened to kill her and 3190 03:27:24.760 --> 03:27:29.920 that I was working for the FBI, the CIA, Turkish Intelligence. 3191 03:27:30.079 --> 03:27:36.520 Of course, clearly, the police report also claimed that I 3192 03:27:36.600 --> 03:27:42.040 engaged in anti Asian hate crime and anti Islamic hate crime. 3193 03:27:42.479 --> 03:27:46.680 You are Asian and Islamic, no I I yeah. 3194 03:27:46.760 --> 03:27:49.760 It's like, it's like what what? Oh? And then they 3195 03:27:49.799 --> 03:27:54.120 also she was Tibetan, so like the police report also 3196 03:27:54.159 --> 03:27:58.040 claimed that she was Tibetan and that, you know, I 3197 03:27:58.079 --> 03:28:00.520 worked for the Embassy of Palau. Like, I was like, 3198 03:28:01.000 --> 03:28:05.000 who'd have fuck even wrote this police report? What that? 3199 03:28:06.440 --> 03:28:07.120 Wow? 3200 03:28:07.239 --> 03:28:07.479 Wow? 3201 03:28:08.639 --> 03:28:11.079 So they played all as dirty as humanly possible. 3202 03:28:11.239 --> 03:28:13.520 Yeah, yeah, so so I don't I don't know about this. 3203 03:28:13.600 --> 03:28:16.600 Of course. Of course I'm out there in front of 3204 03:28:16.639 --> 03:28:20.360 the White House almost every every day Monday through Friday, 3205 03:28:20.680 --> 03:28:25.319 like an hour, raising awareness, doing demonstrations. So if I 3206 03:28:25.360 --> 03:28:28.799 wanted to if the Capitol police it's such a whatever 3207 03:28:28.959 --> 03:28:32.200 US government wanted to arrest me for whatever, they could 3208 03:28:32.200 --> 03:28:36.120 have just picked me up from there. No, according to 3209 03:28:36.280 --> 03:28:40.079 the records, because it shows like the case was dismissed, 3210 03:28:40.239 --> 03:28:43.120 the police report was dismissed. Then it was reopened again 3211 03:28:43.479 --> 03:28:47.920 in August. So I went through a review and then 3212 03:28:47.959 --> 03:28:50.639 it was like, oh, this is bullshit. Then it was 3213 03:28:50.680 --> 03:28:54.079 reopened again. Then they changed them bullshit and added anti 3214 03:28:54.239 --> 03:28:57.319 Islamic hate crime and you know, anti Asian hate crime, 3215 03:28:58.440 --> 03:29:01.040 and then threats to do bab harm and all this 3216 03:29:01.200 --> 03:29:05.000 other bull crap. Like I was like, what anyway, I 3217 03:29:05.079 --> 03:29:09.399 still don't know about this. Then oh, by that time, 3218 03:29:09.719 --> 03:29:13.200 I've been repeatedly calling out China's false flag, the et 3219 03:29:13.319 --> 03:29:17.520 IP tip because they're still playing this propaganda game, trying 3220 03:29:17.600 --> 03:29:21.799 to lure your wars into Syria, even in you know, 3221 03:29:21.920 --> 03:29:25.440 twenty eighteen. So I explained our people. I was like, 3222 03:29:25.479 --> 03:29:28.600 this is a false flag. This does not benefit us. 3223 03:29:28.639 --> 03:29:32.319 We have no fucking nothing to do with Syria r. 3224 03:29:33.239 --> 03:29:37.760 This is the justification China is using to legitimize its genocide. 3225 03:29:38.399 --> 03:29:41.760 Don't be dumb, don't fall for this trap. You know, 3226 03:29:42.120 --> 03:29:47.159 use your brains people. So they began, you know, threatening me, 3227 03:29:47.399 --> 03:29:52.200 like they call me an infidel, all this type of shit. Sure, 3228 03:29:53.840 --> 03:30:00.239 then September tenth comes, September tenth, it's September tenth. And 3229 03:30:00.280 --> 03:30:04.360 then as soon as it hits September eleven, like midnight, 3230 03:30:05.239 --> 03:30:07.520 guess where I start receiving calls from. 3231 03:30:08.399 --> 03:30:11.399 China, Afghanistan. 3232 03:30:12.559 --> 03:30:13.680 ICE has got your number. 3233 03:30:14.840 --> 03:30:20.520 Yeah, I'm receiving you know, a bunch of calls from Afghanistan. 3234 03:30:20.600 --> 03:30:22.959 Of course, I was like, ah, fuck, no, I don't 3235 03:30:23.000 --> 03:30:25.760 have time to deal with this bullshit because it's nine 3236 03:30:25.799 --> 03:30:28.879 eleven now. I was like, nah, there's some fishy shit. 3237 03:30:29.200 --> 03:30:33.159 So I turned off my phone. Next morning, you know, 3238 03:30:33.360 --> 03:30:36.479 I wake up, it's like six thirty am. I wake 3239 03:30:36.600 --> 03:30:41.920 up and on my WhatsApp there's like three different Afghanistan numbers, 3240 03:30:42.040 --> 03:30:44.319 all of them with like a bunch of audio messages, 3241 03:30:44.639 --> 03:30:46.479 like and I'm not talking about one or two, I'm 3242 03:30:46.479 --> 03:30:48.639 talking about like dozens of audio messages. 3243 03:30:48.680 --> 03:30:51.440 I was like, fuck, a lot of threads, a lot 3244 03:30:51.520 --> 03:30:51.920 of threats. 3245 03:30:52.319 --> 03:30:56.120 Yeah, yeah, So I opened only one and I listened 3246 03:30:56.120 --> 03:31:00.719 to it and again it's it's Inwiger and it's from 3247 03:31:00.760 --> 03:31:06.520 those tip fuckers, and they're like saying Oh, we're watching you. 3248 03:31:06.639 --> 03:31:09.920 We know everything that you're doing. You've been brainwashed by 3249 03:31:09.959 --> 03:31:13.840 the Western infidels. You can't be demonizing us like that. 3250 03:31:14.719 --> 03:31:17.760 You know you should return to the troop out. The 3251 03:31:17.799 --> 03:31:21.719 true path is to Giht against all infidels, all this 3252 03:31:21.879 --> 03:31:27.479 type of bullshit. Right, So, by that time, we had 3253 03:31:27.559 --> 03:31:33.920 we had we had some American volunteers, let's say, advisors. 3254 03:31:34.159 --> 03:31:36.719 Let's just leave it in die like I don't want 3255 03:31:36.719 --> 03:31:39.280 to go into detail that there were some folks giving 3256 03:31:39.360 --> 03:31:43.959 us advice, et cetera from behind the scenes, and so 3257 03:31:45.239 --> 03:31:48.399 I forwarded to them, to one of them, and that 3258 03:31:48.479 --> 03:31:51.239 person was like, do not go to the White House today. 3259 03:31:51.840 --> 03:31:55.120 Don't do your daily demonstration there today. Just stay the 3260 03:31:55.159 --> 03:31:57.600 funk away from the White House while I try to 3261 03:31:57.600 --> 03:32:00.760 figure out what the fuck is going on. Right, So 3262 03:32:00.879 --> 03:32:08.719 this person was trying to protect me, and then so 3263 03:32:08.760 --> 03:32:10.479 I don't go like I wanted to. I was like, no, 3264 03:32:10.559 --> 03:32:12.799 I have to go. And it's like, Folly, like I'm 3265 03:32:12.799 --> 03:32:14.879 telling you stay the fuck away from the White House, 3266 03:32:14.959 --> 03:32:20.360 Like you receiving these calls. This is not some random 3267 03:32:20.360 --> 03:32:23.399 bullshit Like I'm gonna try to figure out what's going 3268 03:32:23.440 --> 03:32:26.760 on until then, Like, don't even go anywhere near Washington, DC, 3269 03:32:27.520 --> 03:32:32.200 you know, just stay the buck away. So I don't 3270 03:32:32.559 --> 03:32:36.520 nothing happens. The next day, I go in front of 3271 03:32:36.520 --> 03:32:38.920 the White House and it's not just me, it's a 3272 03:32:38.959 --> 03:32:41.840 bunch of other wikers as well. Like we do. They 3273 03:32:42.040 --> 03:32:45.399 like daily demonstration about an hour so we're protesting in 3274 03:32:45.399 --> 03:32:48.399 front of the We're not protesting, we're demonstrating, protesting against 3275 03:32:48.399 --> 03:32:49.879 the genocide, trying to raise awareness. 3276 03:32:50.000 --> 03:32:50.079 Right. 3277 03:32:51.440 --> 03:32:53.479 The Secret Service, all of them they already know me 3278 03:32:53.520 --> 03:32:55.520 by now, like they know who I am. So they 3279 03:32:55.559 --> 03:32:58.000 come up because they seem like literally every day they 3280 03:32:58.000 --> 03:32:59.559 come and they're like, oh, are you slid here? I 3281 03:32:59.600 --> 03:33:03.000 was like yeah. Then I was like then they were like, oh, 3282 03:33:03.040 --> 03:33:06.399 can we see your idea? I was like okay, So 3283 03:33:06.479 --> 03:33:09.239 I give them my ID and then they start radio 3284 03:33:09.280 --> 03:33:11.639 and some ship and then they're like, you're you're under 3285 03:33:11.680 --> 03:33:13.479 arrest for terrorism. I was like, what the heck? 3286 03:33:13.559 --> 03:33:17.680 No, because of all the pings from Afghanistan to your phone. 3287 03:33:18.319 --> 03:33:22.479 Well, it's it's it's it's not really. Yeah, that was 3288 03:33:22.639 --> 03:33:24.879 just the excuse to arrest me. 3289 03:33:25.280 --> 03:33:29.280 I was just so and the Secret Service dudes knew 3290 03:33:29.319 --> 03:33:31.319 you because you've been out there every day for months. 3291 03:33:31.840 --> 03:33:33.319 They know, man. I was like, what the fuck, I 3292 03:33:33.360 --> 03:33:35.760 have nothing. They're like, it's not our call. We're just 3293 03:33:35.760 --> 03:33:38.440 doing our job. The guy is going to pick you up. 3294 03:33:40.000 --> 03:33:45.159 So I get arrested and they hand me over to 3295 03:33:45.200 --> 03:33:49.840 the FBI, and then the FBI puts me, you know, 3296 03:33:50.600 --> 03:33:54.239 in the car and you know, takes me underground some 3297 03:33:54.399 --> 03:33:56.959 location god knows where, probably their headquarters, I don't know. 3298 03:33:57.600 --> 03:34:00.159 It was in DC. We didn't go too far away 3299 03:34:00.600 --> 03:34:01.959 from the White House. I think it was like a 3300 03:34:02.000 --> 03:34:04.959 couple of minutes, like five minutes maybe six minutes drive. 3301 03:34:07.040 --> 03:34:09.959 Then I repeatedly asked for a lawyer. By the way, 3302 03:34:10.920 --> 03:34:14.239 oh sure, I was like, I want to lawyer, And 3303 03:34:14.239 --> 03:34:16.879 they're like, oh, if you don't have anything to you know, Hi, 3304 03:34:16.959 --> 03:34:18.760 if you're not afraid of you, you shouldn't be afraid to 3305 03:34:18.799 --> 03:34:20.760 talk with us, you know, we just want to figure 3306 03:34:20.799 --> 03:34:21.559 out what you know. 3307 03:34:22.159 --> 03:34:23.639 I never said I was afraid to talk to you. 3308 03:34:23.639 --> 03:34:24.799 I said I want a fucking lawyer. 3309 03:34:24.840 --> 03:34:25.000 Dog. 3310 03:34:25.040 --> 03:34:25.799 There's a difference. 3311 03:34:26.799 --> 03:34:29.440 Yeah. So they keep baiting and they're like, yeah, yeah, 3312 03:34:29.440 --> 03:34:31.000 we'll get you a lawyer. You know, we just want 3313 03:34:31.040 --> 03:34:33.520 to we just want to know, like, you know, what's 3314 03:34:33.559 --> 03:34:35.360 your ties to DT. I am and I was like, 3315 03:34:35.399 --> 03:34:37.479 what the fuck? So I explained them. I was like, again, 3316 03:34:37.559 --> 03:34:42.360 this is Chinese intelligence, false flag, this is I give 3317 03:34:42.440 --> 03:34:44.200 them the whole thing, Like why are you protesting in 3318 03:34:44.200 --> 03:34:46.200 front of I was like, dude, my people are facing 3319 03:34:46.200 --> 03:34:50.520 a fucking genocide. I was like, at that time, the 3320 03:34:50.559 --> 03:34:57.760 official figure that was actually cited by the US UH 3321 03:34:58.360 --> 03:35:02.959 ambassador to the U was eight hundred thousand at least 3322 03:35:03.040 --> 03:35:06.079 eight hundred thousand wigers have been taken into the camps. 3323 03:35:06.280 --> 03:35:08.760 I said, at least eight hundred thousand of my people 3324 03:35:08.799 --> 03:35:13.319 are in concentration camps. China's committing genocide against us. And 3325 03:35:13.399 --> 03:35:16.639 they were mocking me like, oh, you know, it looks 3326 03:35:16.639 --> 03:35:18.840 like the Nazis are back. Huh like this type of. 3327 03:35:18.760 --> 03:35:21.000 Shit, of course, the fucking FBI. 3328 03:35:21.719 --> 03:35:25.280 Yeah, so two hours and forty minutes go by, two hours, 3329 03:35:25.520 --> 03:35:27.280 the whole thing was two hours and forty minutes, two 3330 03:35:27.280 --> 03:35:30.079 hours and thirty minutes go by. They asked me all 3331 03:35:30.120 --> 03:35:33.840 types of stupid shit, like finally, you know, including like 3332 03:35:34.120 --> 03:35:37.120 would I ever fight against the US? I was like, dude, 3333 03:35:37.159 --> 03:35:39.840 why the fuck would I fight against the country that 3334 03:35:39.920 --> 03:35:42.920 I'm looking up to as the savior of my people, 3335 03:35:43.120 --> 03:35:46.399 Like like, like what like, what in that world? Like 3336 03:35:46.760 --> 03:35:50.319 I said, even a dog doesn't you know white the 3337 03:35:50.399 --> 03:35:52.840 hand that feeds him. I was like, come on, like, 3338 03:35:52.879 --> 03:35:54.559 you can't. You guys can't be this dumb. I was like, 3339 03:35:54.680 --> 03:35:56.719 y'all are the fucking FBI, you know? 3340 03:35:57.040 --> 03:35:58.159 Yeah? 3341 03:35:58.280 --> 03:36:00.239 Then after two hours thirty minute. 3342 03:36:00.040 --> 03:36:02.680 That's where you're wrong, bucko. The FBI can be really 3343 03:36:02.680 --> 03:36:03.360 fucking dumb. 3344 03:36:03.360 --> 03:36:08.840 Actually, they yeah, anyways, they go out, they come back. Now, 3345 03:36:08.920 --> 03:36:11.079 they go out and they said, okay, you're not a terrorist, 3346 03:36:11.120 --> 03:36:15.360 we understand now. Then they go out. They come back 3347 03:36:15.399 --> 03:36:17.319 in like a couple of minutes later with a piece 3348 03:36:17.319 --> 03:36:21.159 of paper and they said, oh, well, the real reason 3349 03:36:21.319 --> 03:36:25.680 that you're arrested is because on July eleventh, you threatened 3350 03:36:25.680 --> 03:36:28.760 to kidnap and kill this woman. 3351 03:36:29.319 --> 03:36:30.840 Oh, for the love of fuck, dude. 3352 03:36:31.680 --> 03:36:38.159 Yeah, And then they're like, you cannot tell anyone we're 3353 03:36:38.239 --> 03:36:42.120 conducting an investigation. You cannot tell anyone that you were arrested, 3354 03:36:42.520 --> 03:36:45.120 that you were interrogated, none of this can We can't 3355 03:36:45.159 --> 03:36:48.239 even tell anyone about this. Only your lawyer and even 3356 03:36:48.280 --> 03:36:49.559 they can't tell this to the public. 3357 03:36:49.719 --> 03:36:51.760 Fuck that we're telling everybody that way. How long ago 3358 03:36:51.840 --> 03:36:52.600 is this? 3359 03:36:52.600 --> 03:36:53.719 This was in twenty eighteen. 3360 03:36:54.319 --> 03:36:57.120 Ah, statute of limitations. You could talk about that shit now. 3361 03:36:57.440 --> 03:36:59.840 Yeah, So no, no, it's not just that that's like 3362 03:37:00.200 --> 03:37:04.760 dragged out for three years. So twenty eighteen, this the 3363 03:37:04.920 --> 03:37:08.079 first year. It was like status hearing upon status hearing 3364 03:37:08.200 --> 03:37:11.840 upon status hearing. We're still investigating it. We're still investigating it. 3365 03:37:11.879 --> 03:37:15.239 We're still investigating it. Oh. I hired a lawyer, I 3366 03:37:15.319 --> 03:37:19.079 hired a private investigator. We found out who brought this 3367 03:37:19.280 --> 03:37:22.159 everything from who brought this woman to the US to 3368 03:37:22.280 --> 03:37:26.760 when she arrived to whose fucking house and basement she 3369 03:37:26.879 --> 03:37:31.319 was living in through their own testimonies, you know, because 3370 03:37:31.360 --> 03:37:34.440 they thought when this private investigator went around asking, they 3371 03:37:34.440 --> 03:37:36.719 thought the guy was working for the government or something. 3372 03:37:37.319 --> 03:37:41.000 So they all testified to their own shit. And I 3373 03:37:41.120 --> 03:37:43.360 handed that to the FPAH, we like our lawyers handed 3374 03:37:43.360 --> 03:37:46.680 that and I'm like, look, just as I suspected, because 3375 03:37:46.719 --> 03:37:50.600 I told him, I suspect this is a Chinese intelligence operative, 3376 03:37:50.639 --> 03:37:56.520 because this is what's going on. And then they kept 3377 03:37:56.600 --> 03:38:00.319 trying to coerce me, you know, to just her a 3378 03:38:00.440 --> 03:38:04.159 plea deal where I will only receive six months in jail. 3379 03:38:05.000 --> 03:38:08.040 And I was like, plead deal for what? I didn't 3380 03:38:08.079 --> 03:38:12.239 fucking do shit. You know. I was like, where's one evidence? 3381 03:38:12.280 --> 03:38:14.920 I said, I told them, I said, they're like, you 3382 03:38:14.959 --> 03:38:17.040 called her. I was like, find it. You have my 3383 03:38:17.120 --> 03:38:20.319 phone records, you have my phone records, find her number, 3384 03:38:20.399 --> 03:38:23.520 find one evidence. Give me a fucking recording that I 3385 03:38:23.559 --> 03:38:27.319 called her, and if you want to execute me, I'll 3386 03:38:27.319 --> 03:38:34.239 gladly accept it. I said, find out for me. No, no, no, 3387 03:38:34.239 --> 03:38:38.520 no no, Like they kept postponing, kept delaying, kept all 3388 03:38:38.600 --> 03:38:42.760 this for three years, three years straight. They tried to 3389 03:38:43.520 --> 03:38:47.159 They tried to scare me. You know, they're saying that, oh, 3390 03:38:47.280 --> 03:38:52.079 if you don't, if you don't, if you don't accept 3391 03:38:52.079 --> 03:38:54.920 the plea deal, we're gonna charge you with you know, 3392 03:38:56.159 --> 03:39:01.440 cause they're terrorist. Bullshit. Didn't work because I didn't fall 3393 03:39:01.479 --> 03:39:04.520 for their bullshit trap. You know. If I had said 3394 03:39:04.559 --> 03:39:07.799 one fucking thing, oh yeah, we we I think those 3395 03:39:07.799 --> 03:39:13.040 are our soldiers or some shit right there, I've been gone, 3396 03:39:13.200 --> 03:39:16.200 that would have been. But I knew. I knew this 3397 03:39:16.319 --> 03:39:20.280 was all a fucking trap because that night, you know, 3398 03:39:21.639 --> 03:39:25.000 like I didn't sleep throughout that whole night after that, like, 3399 03:39:25.079 --> 03:39:28.120 after that interrogation, I was like, what the fuck, trying 3400 03:39:28.120 --> 03:39:29.920 to figure out who all was involved in it? And 3401 03:39:29.959 --> 03:39:35.040 I was like, fuck, this was the response from July tenth. 3402 03:39:35.959 --> 03:39:41.040 This was that response. Yeah, and it literally it was. 3403 03:39:41.440 --> 03:39:44.040 And this is how I found out about Document number seven. 3404 03:39:45.799 --> 03:39:50.840 It was actually an FBI counterintelligence officer who's going to 3405 03:39:51.159 --> 03:39:55.399 testify on my behalf that as I suspected that this 3406 03:39:55.440 --> 03:39:58.360 woman was a Chinese intelligence operative and this is what 3407 03:39:58.479 --> 03:40:01.280 China does. He was the one who told our lawyers, 3408 03:40:01.319 --> 03:40:06.040 you know, there's a document the Chinese have actually instructing 3409 03:40:06.159 --> 03:40:09.280 shit like this, and he told our lawyers, and that's 3410 03:40:09.280 --> 03:40:12.079 how I learned about Document number seven. If this didn't 3411 03:40:12.120 --> 03:40:14.440 happen to me, I would have never known about Document 3412 03:40:14.479 --> 03:40:14.920 number seven. 3413 03:40:15.159 --> 03:40:17.559 I had never heard of it until you brought it up, dude, 3414 03:40:17.559 --> 03:40:19.440 and I just pulled up it, just googled it while 3415 03:40:19.479 --> 03:40:22.040 you were talking about it, and that was just the 3416 03:40:22.120 --> 03:40:25.479 quick little AI excerpts from it. I'm sure if I 3417 03:40:25.600 --> 03:40:27.440 was to read the entirety of the document that it 3418 03:40:27.440 --> 03:40:30.879 would go into explicit detail on all of what's actually 3419 03:40:30.959 --> 03:40:34.360 authorized by the people of China to do to your people. 3420 03:40:34.479 --> 03:40:38.440 It's oh my god, and yeah, this is this is insane. 3421 03:40:38.680 --> 03:40:41.799 Not only is there a genocide going on, not only 3422 03:40:41.879 --> 03:40:44.000 is it being completely covered up not only does our 3423 03:40:44.000 --> 03:40:47.079 government know about it, and they're doing nothing to stop 3424 03:40:47.120 --> 03:40:50.159 it or even acknowledge it. For the most part, the 3425 03:40:50.239 --> 03:40:52.479 people out here that are doing the good work to 3426 03:40:52.639 --> 03:40:55.159 try to get the word out there, if for nothing else, 3427 03:40:55.239 --> 03:40:58.680 just to bring awareness to it. They literally on some 3428 03:40:58.719 --> 03:41:03.200 conspiratorial level, are throwing spies at you to trip you up, 3429 03:41:03.399 --> 03:41:06.600 and then our government is questioning if that's reality, and 3430 03:41:07.000 --> 03:41:09.680 it's this is my mind blowing dude. 3431 03:41:09.760 --> 03:41:13.040 The Chinese, I mean, they've they engage in all types 3432 03:41:13.079 --> 03:41:16.680 of warfare, including law lawfare, so oh yeah, they were 3433 03:41:16.799 --> 03:41:19.319 using law fair like because everything else felt like they 3434 03:41:19.680 --> 03:41:22.120 tried to, you know, buy me off. That didn't fail. 3435 03:41:22.479 --> 03:41:24.680 The nice approach didn't work because I was like, fuck you, 3436 03:41:24.680 --> 03:41:26.879 I'm not in this for money. You were power, wealth 3437 03:41:26.959 --> 03:41:29.159 or whatever that shit. I don't give a fuck about that. 3438 03:41:30.280 --> 03:41:33.600 I'm over here trying to save my people and that's it. Yeah, 3439 03:41:33.760 --> 03:41:35.719 my country, that's it. I don't care about that. Like 3440 03:41:36.639 --> 03:41:39.559 I'm willing to sacrifice my entire family for it as well, 3441 03:41:39.920 --> 03:41:41.639 Like I'm not going to give up on that because 3442 03:41:41.680 --> 03:41:44.000 this is the way my father raised me, you know, 3443 03:41:44.200 --> 03:41:49.360 like he like God blessed the man, so he was 3444 03:41:49.399 --> 03:41:52.680 like you have to be able to sacrifice everything, even us, 3445 03:41:52.920 --> 03:41:54.920 if that's what's going to save our country. 3446 03:41:54.959 --> 03:41:57.479 You have to do that because for a bigger goal 3447 03:41:57.559 --> 03:42:00.159 than just you and just your bloodline, we're talking millions 3448 03:42:00.200 --> 03:42:00.600 of people. 3449 03:42:01.319 --> 03:42:05.280 And then so after that, it was, you know, they 3450 03:42:05.399 --> 03:42:11.840 tried the harassment, demonization, you know, threats, hoping that I 3451 03:42:11.879 --> 03:42:13.760 would be like, oh, pressure and be like, you know what, 3452 03:42:14.239 --> 03:42:16.920 let me fuck this. You know this is too much. 3453 03:42:17.399 --> 03:42:20.879 Let me just sit down and go, you know, jerk 3454 03:42:20.920 --> 03:42:23.719 off in my corner or some shit. Excuse me, now, 3455 03:42:23.760 --> 03:42:27.799 you're fine, bro, And so that didn't work. So now 3456 03:42:28.319 --> 03:42:30.840 like we gotta we gotta handle this guy some way, 3457 03:42:31.120 --> 03:42:35.440 some way legally to where legally, if we can lock 3458 03:42:35.520 --> 03:42:38.200 him up, that's. 3459 03:42:38.000 --> 03:42:39.799 Just as good as silencing him. And even if he 3460 03:42:39.840 --> 03:42:43.040 does get out, he's forever tarnished, his reputation is gone 3461 03:42:43.040 --> 03:42:43.440 and all this. 3462 03:42:43.639 --> 03:42:46.879 Yeah, So for three years, just stretched out, I went 3463 03:42:46.920 --> 03:42:52.239 through thirty status hearings, repeatedly asked for a trial, kept 3464 03:42:52.239 --> 03:42:56.760 getting denied. The government refused to give up the interrogation 3465 03:42:57.239 --> 03:43:01.280 for an entire year, citing national security. 3466 03:43:03.319 --> 03:43:05.559 And national security. 3467 03:43:06.079 --> 03:43:09.319 Even the judge was like, what the fuck? Yea, Even 3468 03:43:09.360 --> 03:43:12.719 the judge was like, no, fuck you, you're gonna give the tape. 3469 03:43:12.879 --> 03:43:15.200 And they're like, if you, if you're really concerned about 3470 03:43:15.200 --> 03:43:18.360 your agent's name, rejact their redact their name, blur up 3471 03:43:18.399 --> 03:43:24.559 their faces, and give the damn tape. Finally they gave 3472 03:43:24.600 --> 03:43:28.000 the tape and then they're like, oh, we you know, 3473 03:43:28.040 --> 03:43:32.200 we're gonna we're gonna dismiss it. Wow. Like that, they 3474 03:43:32.200 --> 03:43:36.520 wanted to dismiss the whole thing. And then once they 3475 03:43:36.840 --> 03:43:40.559 were about to dismiss it, then they're like, oh no, 3476 03:43:40.680 --> 03:43:43.440 we changed our mind. A couple of weeks go by 3477 03:43:43.520 --> 03:43:45.559 and they're like, oh no, we changed our mind. We're 3478 03:43:45.559 --> 03:43:49.040 gonna charge you with anti Asian hate crime. 3479 03:43:50.639 --> 03:43:54.879 Once again, charging an Asian who is of the Islamic 3480 03:43:54.920 --> 03:43:59.399 faith with Asian and Muslim hate crime. That is the 3481 03:43:59.399 --> 03:44:04.319 most ridicul Dave Chappelle ship I've ever heard in my life, exactly. 3482 03:44:05.239 --> 03:44:09.319 And they kept trying to pressure me. You know, if 3483 03:44:09.479 --> 03:44:13.799 if if you accept the plea deal, you'll only get 3484 03:44:13.840 --> 03:44:16.840 six months in jail. If not, we're gonna, you know, 3485 03:44:17.079 --> 03:44:19.559 you could look anywhere from five to ten years in prison. 3486 03:44:20.040 --> 03:44:23.840 Except yeah, exactly, I was I was tired, and even 3487 03:44:23.920 --> 03:44:26.360 my lawyer, I don't know what. I don't know if 3488 03:44:26.399 --> 03:44:28.959 they bought off my lawyer or what the fuck happened 3489 03:44:28.959 --> 03:44:32.239 with the lawyer. Even him, he was just like trying 3490 03:44:32.280 --> 03:44:37.680 to pressure me to accept. And this lawyer was actually 3491 03:44:38.159 --> 03:44:42.719 someone that, you know, one of those advisors had recommended. 3492 03:44:44.079 --> 03:44:48.079 And this lawyer himself ended up his father was like 3493 03:44:48.159 --> 03:44:51.600 some CIA you know, officer or some ship. 3494 03:44:51.799 --> 03:44:56.200 So the fucking levels and networking with these assholes, I swear. 3495 03:44:57.000 --> 03:45:01.159 Anyways, it gets, it gets even more fucked up. So 3496 03:45:01.360 --> 03:45:06.719 they're they're trying to, you know, continuously do this. So 3497 03:45:06.879 --> 03:45:10.760 finally I'm fed up. I was like, I can't talk 3498 03:45:10.799 --> 03:45:13.719 to anyone about this. Nobody knows about this. I can't 3499 03:45:13.719 --> 03:45:18.319 even tell my own parents' family about this. So like 3500 03:45:19.719 --> 03:45:22.520 constantly I'm under this pressure, but I don't give up. 3501 03:45:22.559 --> 03:45:25.239 I'm still advocating, I'm still doing my thing. I'm still 3502 03:45:25.280 --> 03:45:33.840 making progress. Then finally, now it's two thousand and twenty one, 3503 03:45:34.360 --> 03:45:36.879 the end of two thousand and the US is already 3504 03:45:36.920 --> 03:45:40.920 recognized the genocide, by the way, like like. 3505 03:45:42.479 --> 03:45:45.040 So it's not like you're gonna get interrogated again, Like, oh, well, 3506 03:45:45.040 --> 03:45:46.879 I guess the NATSS are bad, Like no, no, no, 3507 03:45:46.920 --> 03:45:49.360 it's it's understood and recognized that there's some shit going 3508 03:45:49.399 --> 03:45:49.879 down here. 3509 03:45:51.559 --> 03:45:55.920 Yeah, it's I believe. I just want to you can 3510 03:45:55.959 --> 03:45:58.159 read about it. Because then I told the journalists after 3511 03:45:58.200 --> 03:46:05.479 all this shit, the Daily Caller. Yeah, so yeah, it 3512 03:46:05.559 --> 03:46:09.719 was twenty twenty two. At the end of twenty twenty one. 3513 03:46:10.799 --> 03:46:14.440 They kept trying to push into a status, you know, 3514 03:46:14.559 --> 03:46:17.120 kept pushing it back, kept trying to do it. It's 3515 03:46:17.159 --> 03:46:19.879 been three years by now, and I'm like fucking tired, 3516 03:46:21.120 --> 03:46:23.479 and to the point that I start reading up the 3517 03:46:23.559 --> 03:46:27.360 law myself. You know. I was like, something, this fish 3518 03:46:27.399 --> 03:46:30.239 is here, right, So I told my lawyer, you know what, like, 3519 03:46:30.319 --> 03:46:35.680 fuck you, dude, you should have gotten me a speedy trial, one, 3520 03:46:36.120 --> 03:46:39.159 an actual fucking trial. I should have had a trial 3521 03:46:39.639 --> 03:46:43.440 years ago, right. I was like, I'm going to fire 3522 03:46:43.479 --> 03:46:47.680 your ass. I'm going to go talk to some lawyer, 3523 03:46:47.840 --> 03:46:50.200 other lawyers, and I'm going to go to the media. 3524 03:46:50.200 --> 03:46:51.840 I don't give a fuck at this point, I said, 3525 03:46:51.840 --> 03:46:54.040 I don't give a shit. At this point, if they're 3526 03:46:54.079 --> 03:46:58.159 going to arrest me, charge me with whatever crap, I 3527 03:46:58.159 --> 03:47:00.319 don't care as long as they give me a trial. 3528 03:47:02.120 --> 03:47:04.840 If if, if the jury hears all the evidence and 3529 03:47:04.879 --> 03:47:07.920 they decide on whatever. If that's if that's the case, 3530 03:47:07.959 --> 03:47:09.959 and if they decide to sentence me to death, I'll 3531 03:47:10.000 --> 03:47:13.479 accept it. If not, screw this. There's there's some bullshit 3532 03:47:13.559 --> 03:47:17.799 games being played here. I never thought China's influence was 3533 03:47:18.520 --> 03:47:22.879 that powerful in the US government, but apparently it's it's power. 3534 03:47:23.280 --> 03:47:26.200 It is everybody thinks that Israel's power is so so 3535 03:47:26.319 --> 03:47:28.079 prevalent in the US government. And don't get me wrong, 3536 03:47:28.280 --> 03:47:33.079 it is bro China has so many politicians by the balls, 3537 03:47:33.079 --> 03:47:34.000 it's not even funny. 3538 03:47:35.239 --> 03:47:38.959 So what happened is after I threatened to you know, 3539 03:47:39.079 --> 03:47:43.200 go to the UH to you know, journalists about this, 3540 03:47:44.879 --> 03:47:49.280 guess what happens. And I threatened my lawyer to you know, 3541 03:47:50.079 --> 03:47:51.319 to fire him and get a new one. 3542 03:47:51.479 --> 03:47:53.120 You got a trial and everything got dropped. 3543 03:47:53.200 --> 03:47:55.360 No, no, no, no, no, I didn't even get a trial. 3544 03:47:56.959 --> 03:48:01.040 His next response within a few days was, oh, they 3545 03:48:01.120 --> 03:48:02.920 dropped the case. No prosecute. 3546 03:48:03.360 --> 03:48:04.680 Mmm. 3547 03:48:04.719 --> 03:48:07.680 And what the funniest I have all the papers I have, 3548 03:48:07.799 --> 03:48:10.200 like a document this, and the fact that I can 3549 03:48:10.239 --> 03:48:12.079 pull it up for you, it's like right there. 3550 03:48:12.440 --> 03:48:16.920 Wow, of all the but all the charges that they 3551 03:48:16.920 --> 03:48:17.920 were about to put on. 3552 03:48:17.799 --> 03:48:20.959 You, like literally this this thick. 3553 03:48:21.079 --> 03:48:25.360 Good God, because of that one Turkish bitch that try 3554 03:48:25.360 --> 03:48:26.879 to get in and honeypot. 3555 03:48:26.399 --> 03:48:31.440 You oh she's she's from my own home country. Oh wow, 3556 03:48:32.479 --> 03:48:37.159 it gets worse. She actually worked for the Chinese Education ministry. 3557 03:48:37.799 --> 03:48:40.719 She worked for Chinese state media before she was brought 3558 03:48:40.760 --> 03:48:41.280 to the US. 3559 03:48:41.760 --> 03:48:44.520 So she's an understood spy. Like this is not a joke, 3560 03:48:44.600 --> 03:48:46.159 This is not like a hypothetical. 3561 03:48:46.799 --> 03:48:51.760 No, no, my suspicions was dead on, Like my suspicions 3562 03:48:51.799 --> 03:48:55.959 of her, my gut feelings, the little arm bells in 3563 03:48:56.040 --> 03:48:59.440 my head were dead on because after the stuff that 3564 03:48:59.520 --> 03:49:05.799 the private an investigator found on her own fucking LinkedIn page, 3565 03:49:05.799 --> 03:49:12.079 by the way, so even despite that, the this game 3566 03:49:12.159 --> 03:49:14.639 went on, Like we handed all this information to the 3567 03:49:14.680 --> 03:49:18.360 government and they insisted on playing this game. But anyways, 3568 03:49:18.840 --> 03:49:22.879 after that, all this because we have all this records, right, 3569 03:49:23.399 --> 03:49:26.440 physical records, because every little thing you get a record. 3570 03:49:27.239 --> 03:49:30.239 But on the website you have you know, the PDFs. 3571 03:49:30.840 --> 03:49:34.000 It shows that you went to status hearing. Everything that's 3572 03:49:34.000 --> 03:49:36.760 said there is made into a record and uploaded as 3573 03:49:36.799 --> 03:49:43.079 a pdf. Guess what happened on the website. All the 3574 03:49:43.120 --> 03:49:46.319 PDFs are missing. It just says status hearing, status hearing. 3575 03:49:46.719 --> 03:49:50.520 But the documents here have been completely erased. 3576 03:49:51.200 --> 03:49:54.760 Wow, So they they're protecting. 3577 03:49:54.239 --> 03:50:01.360 Her, not just her, because they're protecting the people involved 3578 03:50:01.639 --> 03:50:08.440 in this, because she's just the bait. She was the bait, 3579 03:50:09.079 --> 03:50:12.639 the person that they try to use to bait me. 3580 03:50:14.799 --> 03:50:19.159 But if this actually went to trial, then they're gonna 3581 03:50:19.159 --> 03:50:23.600 look into who the fuck brought this woman here, what 3582 03:50:23.680 --> 03:50:26.120 the fuck is she doing here, who's she interacting with? 3583 03:50:26.760 --> 03:50:30.520 Then all of the other people would have been exposed, 3584 03:50:30.559 --> 03:50:36.280 including you know, that powerful family, but not only that 3585 03:50:36.360 --> 03:50:42.319 powerful family, but who in the US, which individuals in 3586 03:50:42.399 --> 03:50:47.399 the government, or which you know, corporations. It's cecha are 3587 03:50:47.559 --> 03:50:50.559 involved with this family, and we're talking about a large 3588 03:50:50.559 --> 03:50:57.040 pharmaceutical company where her brother works as a senior director. 3589 03:50:57.479 --> 03:50:59.719 Yeah, if I'm not mistaken, isn't it somewhere around like 3590 03:50:59.719 --> 03:51:02.600 a order of all? Well no, no, I'm sorry. It's a 3591 03:51:02.680 --> 03:51:05.840 quarter of all pharmaceuticals are based from natural sources. But 3592 03:51:05.879 --> 03:51:08.600 I want to say half of the American pharmaceuticals come 3593 03:51:08.680 --> 03:51:12.760 from China. Well it's something high, like a percentage, like 3594 03:51:12.799 --> 03:51:13.520 crazy like that. 3595 03:51:13.840 --> 03:51:16.040 Yeah, not only that, but if you remember a couple 3596 03:51:16.079 --> 03:51:22.239 of years ago, there was a leak of ccp uh 3597 03:51:22.399 --> 03:51:27.399 you know, folks with CCP members, including those that had 3598 03:51:28.079 --> 03:51:34.959 that were at high level you know, positions within Western companies, 3599 03:51:35.479 --> 03:51:38.159 including certain pharmaceutical companies. 3600 03:51:38.479 --> 03:51:43.799 Yeah. Yeah, god, okay, So so you made it on 3601 03:51:43.799 --> 03:51:46.360 the other side of the trial. You're a free man. 3602 03:51:46.520 --> 03:51:48.920 There's no charges pressing against you or anything like that 3603 03:51:49.040 --> 03:51:52.760 in your back into the advocacy. 3604 03:51:52.879 --> 03:51:55.479 Well, no, I've never given up on the advocacy, Like 3605 03:51:55.559 --> 03:51:59.479 I've never stopped doing that. Even despite all that, I 3606 03:51:59.559 --> 03:52:05.920 kept going. But uh, that was you know, their attempts 3607 03:52:06.040 --> 03:52:09.719 to try to stop me, to try to demonize me. 3608 03:52:09.799 --> 03:52:13.639 Because what the other Weiger human rights groups would do 3609 03:52:13.879 --> 03:52:17.239 after that was like, oh, solely got arrested. You know, 3610 03:52:17.440 --> 03:52:21.239 he threatened this woman. He's he got arrested for threatening 3611 03:52:21.280 --> 03:52:23.840 this woman. Do you know that, you know you shouldn't 3612 03:52:23.840 --> 03:52:26.760 meet with him. They would try to sabotage all my 3613 03:52:27.000 --> 03:52:31.399 you know, contacts in the US Congress, try to det 3614 03:52:31.520 --> 03:52:32.399 me as some you know. 3615 03:52:33.399 --> 03:52:36.879 Well, now the case has dropped, has your credibility been restored? 3616 03:52:38.000 --> 03:52:43.159 I mean not really, the damage has been done. Yeah. 3617 03:52:43.319 --> 03:52:48.319 Though the Daily Caller that's who I had reached out to, 3618 03:52:50.040 --> 03:52:54.239 In fact, the reporter Philip he's really great, he's been. 3619 03:52:54.440 --> 03:52:57.440 He's an investigative reporter and he's been, you know, exposing 3620 03:52:57.600 --> 03:53:00.479 a lot of things that the CCP he's doing in 3621 03:53:00.479 --> 03:53:03.520 the United States and a lot of CCP connections to 3622 03:53:03.639 --> 03:53:07.559 a lot of you know, different folks in the US. 3623 03:53:07.600 --> 03:53:11.159 And so he was actually asking me about you know, 3624 03:53:11.600 --> 03:53:14.440 Chinese you know, transnational repression, and he's like, do you 3625 03:53:14.479 --> 03:53:19.120 know anyone that has faced this? And I was like, bro, 3626 03:53:20.440 --> 03:53:24.520 you're talking to the guy like you won't believe the 3627 03:53:24.520 --> 03:53:30.319 shit that I've been through, right, And this was dropped 3628 03:53:30.319 --> 03:53:34.440 in February, in January of twenty twenty two. In February 3629 03:53:34.440 --> 03:53:36.760 twenty twenty two is when we started. I started talking 3630 03:53:36.799 --> 03:53:42.040 to him, and even he tried to request the government, 3631 03:53:43.079 --> 03:53:47.559 the FBI and others to give you know, the records, 3632 03:53:47.600 --> 03:53:50.799 the police records, the interrogation records, all of that. They 3633 03:53:50.879 --> 03:53:55.319 kept refusing, They kept extending their time, right and then 3634 03:53:55.440 --> 03:53:57.559 refusing to give it up. And he was like, Bro, 3635 03:53:57.639 --> 03:54:03.719 this is like the most weirdest shit ran into And 3636 03:54:03.920 --> 03:54:07.120 luckily I had all this copies because if I didn't 3637 03:54:07.159 --> 03:54:12.559 have these physical copies, no, virtually it's gone. But if 3638 03:54:12.600 --> 03:54:15.760 I didn't, if I hadn't kept these, it would have 3639 03:54:15.799 --> 03:54:19.559 been very difficult. So I you know, scanned all of 3640 03:54:19.600 --> 03:54:22.319 this and sent it to him and he tried to 3641 03:54:22.399 --> 03:54:28.280 reach out to those people, including that woman, and she 3642 03:54:28.440 --> 03:54:29.760 claimed she had COVID. 3643 03:54:30.520 --> 03:54:33.000 She wasn't even there that day she had COVID. She 3644 03:54:33.120 --> 03:54:33.600 was nowhere. 3645 03:54:33.680 --> 03:54:38.680 Yeah, no, like she's like initially she's like, oh, you know, okay, 3646 03:54:38.719 --> 03:54:41.079 I'll do an interview and I'll tell my side of 3647 03:54:41.120 --> 03:54:46.159 the story. Then she ran away from it. Then the 3648 03:54:46.280 --> 03:54:51.239 other weaker groups. Because the funny thing is, the police 3649 03:54:51.280 --> 03:54:54.120 report claims that she was a volunteer for that weaker 3650 03:54:54.239 --> 03:54:58.360 human rights group. That's what the police report states, and 3651 03:54:58.399 --> 03:55:01.120 they fucked up on that part. That's where they fucked 3652 03:55:01.200 --> 03:55:04.879 up is because they mentioned the fact that she was 3653 03:55:04.920 --> 03:55:10.959 a volunteer at that we your organization, and that weaker organization, 3654 03:55:12.360 --> 03:55:16.840 you know, is has a lot more connections than I do. 3655 03:55:16.959 --> 03:55:20.319 Let's just say, are they a legitimate weaker organization or 3656 03:55:20.319 --> 03:55:21.879 are they a part of the sabotage? 3657 03:55:22.799 --> 03:55:25.600 No, they're they're part of the sabotage. They're not legitimate 3658 03:55:25.639 --> 03:55:28.040 in that sense. I mean they were created. They were 3659 03:55:28.079 --> 03:55:34.360 created specifically to you know, undermine, like move us away 3660 03:55:34.399 --> 03:55:39.479 from our independence cause to a Okay, we'll accept human 3661 03:55:39.559 --> 03:55:42.600 rights and autonomy and their China thing just which which 3662 03:55:42.879 --> 03:55:47.840 essentially actually buys time for China to continue facilitating its 3663 03:55:47.879 --> 03:55:51.120 colonization genocide to an irreversible point. 3664 03:55:51.440 --> 03:55:52.559 This is why. 3665 03:55:52.760 --> 03:55:57.479 Independence is the only solution to save our people, to 3666 03:55:57.600 --> 03:56:02.079 maintain our very existence, because we've been autonomous for seventy 3667 03:56:02.159 --> 03:56:05.719 years now. China just celebrated seventy years of autonomy, and 3668 03:56:05.760 --> 03:56:10.840 he's Trakistan. What has that? It brought us from ninety 3669 03:56:10.879 --> 03:56:14.840 six percent of the population to less than fifty eight percent. 3670 03:56:15.159 --> 03:56:18.239 We will specifically went from ninety percent to less than 3671 03:56:18.440 --> 03:56:20.680 you know, if we buy China's if we buy into 3672 03:56:20.799 --> 03:56:25.200 China's narrative official statistics, to less than forty six percent, 3673 03:56:26.239 --> 03:56:30.920 we are being you know, completely wiped out in slow 3674 03:56:31.000 --> 03:56:36.239 motion while the world doesn't do anything. And unfortunately governments, 3675 03:56:36.319 --> 03:56:41.399 despite the recognition, despite you know, valance of never again, 3676 03:56:41.559 --> 03:56:46.760 they are refusing to act. And because China, you know, 3677 03:56:47.239 --> 03:56:53.079 is one economically and politically powerful too, we're economically to 3678 03:56:53.399 --> 03:56:58.719 inter to reliant on China. Like for example, President Trump 3679 03:56:58.879 --> 03:57:01.680 was trying to put tariffs on China and then China 3680 03:57:02.079 --> 03:57:05.319 was like, oh yeah, well fuck you, and they what 3681 03:57:05.360 --> 03:57:07.360 do they do they're like, we're not gonna you know, 3682 03:57:07.559 --> 03:57:11.159 we're going to ban the sale of critical minerals to you, 3683 03:57:11.280 --> 03:57:14.000 the export of critical minerals to the Western countries, right, 3684 03:57:14.360 --> 03:57:18.159 And the US made the dumbest mistake by opening up 3685 03:57:18.200 --> 03:57:21.879 the China and giving China, you know, control of you know, 3686 03:57:22.000 --> 03:57:26.600 all of the critical mineral processing to where now, because 3687 03:57:26.639 --> 03:57:29.639 critical minerals is used in everything from weapons systems to 3688 03:57:29.879 --> 03:57:33.959 you know, phones, to computers, to anything electronic to if 3689 03:57:34.000 --> 03:57:36.239 we want to survive in the twenty first century, you 3690 03:57:36.280 --> 03:57:41.680 need critical minerals. China controls seventy percent of that. 3691 03:57:42.040 --> 03:57:47.760 Yeah. Fortunately, Oh bro, Okay, So what's next for you 3692 03:57:48.280 --> 03:57:50.479 as you move forward and as you continue to be 3693 03:57:50.520 --> 03:57:53.760 an advocate and fight the good fight for your people, 3694 03:57:54.520 --> 03:57:56.440 what does what does your next steps look like? 3695 03:57:57.520 --> 03:58:01.879 Well, right now, we're trying to get the international community. 3696 03:58:01.920 --> 03:58:05.680 We've already got recognition of the genocide. We already you know, 3697 03:58:06.000 --> 03:58:09.280 got a lot of condemnations, but no meaningful actions. So 3698 03:58:09.920 --> 03:58:12.600 but no one is talking about the root of the issue. Again, 3699 03:58:13.680 --> 03:58:17.319 many people are mistakenly saying, oh, China is persecuting we 3700 03:58:17.639 --> 03:58:20.200 just because they're Muslim. Now that's not that's not the case. 3701 03:58:20.280 --> 03:58:22.639 If it was solely because we were Muslim. Then you 3702 03:58:22.639 --> 03:58:25.280 have ten to fifteen million Chinese, ten to fifteen million 3703 03:58:25.600 --> 03:58:28.479 Chinese Muslims, yet nothing is happening to them, right because 3704 03:58:29.319 --> 03:58:32.719 it's simply because we're not Chinese. It's because China wants 3705 03:58:32.760 --> 03:58:38.079 to continue its colonization and essentially wipe us out. So 3706 03:58:38.239 --> 03:58:43.280 for us, that is the root. To address meaningfully address 3707 03:58:43.360 --> 03:58:45.680 the issue, you have to address the root, which is 3708 03:58:45.879 --> 03:58:51.079 Chinese occupation and colonization. So we're urging the international community, 3709 03:58:51.680 --> 03:58:55.799 especially you know, governments like the US, to recognize this 3710 03:58:56.000 --> 03:58:59.959 as an occupied country, support our right to self determination 3711 03:59:00.719 --> 03:59:04.920 under international law, and then to you know, take meaningful 3712 03:59:05.000 --> 03:59:08.079 actions that you know, we're not asking the US and 3713 03:59:08.120 --> 03:59:11.440 others to, oh, start supplying us with weapons and this 3714 03:59:11.680 --> 03:59:15.319 is now, We're asking you to do the bare minimum 3715 03:59:15.399 --> 03:59:19.879 under international law, the bare minimum of your obligations, which 3716 03:59:19.920 --> 03:59:23.680 is actually try to you know, hold China accountable for 3717 03:59:23.799 --> 03:59:27.639 the crime of genocide. Uh, you know, through international you know, 3718 03:59:27.719 --> 03:59:31.159 at least through the same level that the US has 3719 03:59:31.200 --> 03:59:34.239 been you know, putting pressuring Ukraine. You know, from the 3720 03:59:34.319 --> 03:59:38.680 economic political perspective, I'm not I'm not even getting into 3721 03:59:38.719 --> 03:59:43.280 the military party. From that perspective. You know, that's all 3722 03:59:43.280 --> 03:59:45.959 we're asking for now, because the time will come and 3723 03:59:46.000 --> 03:59:50.319 never inevitably China is going to get into a conflict 3724 03:59:50.319 --> 03:59:54.399 with the US or another bigger power, and it's just 3725 03:59:54.440 --> 03:59:57.399 a matter of time. Yeah, it's going to happen, I 3726 03:59:57.440 --> 04:00:00.479 believe in the next decade, if not sooner, I hope. 3727 04:00:00.520 --> 04:00:04.680 So I'm somebody who Okay, I know people are gonna 3728 04:00:04.680 --> 04:00:08.399 think that I'm crazy for this. I don't care. Everybody 3729 04:00:08.479 --> 04:00:13.479 was super afraid of Russia because they're Russia. I said 3730 04:00:13.520 --> 04:00:16.920 for years that they are a paper tiger. The only 3731 04:00:16.959 --> 04:00:20.479 thing that's scary about them is their numbers. But before Ukraine, 3732 04:00:21.479 --> 04:00:25.319 I guess you could argue, before crimea right, nobody from 3733 04:00:25.399 --> 04:00:28.719 their top general to their bottom lowliest private had actually 3734 04:00:28.719 --> 04:00:31.440 been shot at or been in a gunfight. And I'm 3735 04:00:31.440 --> 04:00:35.040 not saying that they didn't have quote unquote impressive weapons 3736 04:00:35.079 --> 04:00:39.479 and tactics and blah blah blah. They were so arrogant 3737 04:00:39.959 --> 04:00:42.760 that they genuinely believed that they were gonna blow through 3738 04:00:42.760 --> 04:00:45.360 the entirety of Ukraine in two weeks. We are now 3739 04:00:45.399 --> 04:00:48.639 about to round the corner on year four of their 3740 04:00:48.959 --> 04:00:53.559 special military operation. Because their military is dog shit. And 3741 04:00:53.840 --> 04:00:57.000 I know there's a hot take here. I feel China 3742 04:00:57.159 --> 04:01:01.760 is even worse because, yes, they're big asset is their numbers, 3743 04:01:02.079 --> 04:01:04.319 But if you take any kind of real critical look 3744 04:01:04.399 --> 04:01:08.680 at their their air platforms. They swear the sou fifty 3745 04:01:08.719 --> 04:01:12.440 sevens like the greatest things in sliced bread are f eighteens, 3746 04:01:12.719 --> 04:01:16.600 which are like antiquated by all standards, or by our 3747 04:01:16.680 --> 04:01:19.879 standards anyway, could smoke check those in any kind of 3748 04:01:19.920 --> 04:01:23.040 actual air to air dogfight. You look at their radar capabilities, 3749 04:01:23.040 --> 04:01:25.239 you look at their miss missile capabilities, you look at 3750 04:01:25.280 --> 04:01:28.760 the very baseline training that your front infantry units receive. 3751 04:01:29.360 --> 04:01:34.000 It is dog shit compared to America. So for China 3752 04:01:34.079 --> 04:01:37.200 to get involved in an actual conflict with a actual 3753 04:01:37.280 --> 04:01:41.239 competitor i e. US, it would be it would be 3754 04:01:41.280 --> 04:01:41.920 a prison rate. 3755 04:01:42.799 --> 04:01:46.079 Yeah, no, it's it'd be disastrous. And this is the 3756 04:01:46.159 --> 04:01:50.200 part that many people don't understand, Like China is not 3757 04:01:50.360 --> 04:01:54.840 going to go to war without you know, completely finishing 3758 04:01:54.879 --> 04:01:58.360 off us because we're the biggest vulnerability for them. Yeah, 3759 04:01:59.040 --> 04:02:03.600 but until you know they have gotten you know, full 3760 04:02:04.280 --> 04:02:08.959 you know, confident, like one confidency that they're they're going 3761 04:02:09.079 --> 04:02:13.200 to succeed, and right now, China's not confident like that 3762 04:02:13.360 --> 04:02:14.120 is why. 3763 04:02:14.040 --> 04:02:16.200 If they were, they would have moved on Taiwan already, 3764 04:02:16.200 --> 04:02:18.120 if they were so confident, that would have been done. 3765 04:02:18.360 --> 04:02:21.440 Yeah, they'll, they'll threaten it. They they'll you know, they've 3766 04:02:21.440 --> 04:02:24.120 been threatening to take Taiwan since Mouth took over China 3767 04:02:24.159 --> 04:02:29.360 like seventy some years, uh, seventy six years. The reason 3768 04:02:29.399 --> 04:02:33.280 they haven't is because they're still not quote unquote ready. 3769 04:02:33.200 --> 04:02:38.280 They're not one hundred percent confident, especially right now. That's 3770 04:02:38.280 --> 04:02:43.600 why China has been heavily investing in a lot of 3771 04:02:43.639 --> 04:02:49.479 propaganda and their diplomatic and economic power. So what China 3772 04:02:49.559 --> 04:02:53.520 ultimately wants to do is use the threat of we 3773 04:02:53.600 --> 04:02:59.719 will attack you, we will invade you to coerce those 3774 04:02:59.719 --> 04:03:02.680 other countries to you know, appease China and be like, 3775 04:03:02.719 --> 04:03:04.799 all right, you know what, let's not go to the war. 3776 04:03:05.239 --> 04:03:07.040 But they've also been smarter about it. They've been going 3777 04:03:07.079 --> 04:03:10.040 at it on the economic side too, right, So example 3778 04:03:10.079 --> 04:03:13.040 of this in twenty sixteen, I think it was when 3779 04:03:13.079 --> 04:03:16.159 the oil prices dipped out. Right, had a buddy of 3780 04:03:16.200 --> 04:03:20.159 mine working for Chevron in the Democratic Republic of the Congo, 3781 04:03:20.520 --> 04:03:22.319 or he might have been in Nigeria at that time. 3782 04:03:22.360 --> 04:03:25.719 Either way, it was in Central Africa, right, and he 3783 04:03:25.840 --> 04:03:28.559 was making crazy money because the oil field was booming, 3784 04:03:28.600 --> 04:03:30.920 and I mean out of country workers in the oil field, 3785 04:03:30.920 --> 04:03:34.920 you make that moan ney. Then the oil prices dip out, 3786 04:03:34.959 --> 04:03:38.639 and as Chevron is pulling out, Chinese investors moved in. 3787 04:03:39.120 --> 04:03:41.879 Same thing that took place in Afghanistan when American troops 3788 04:03:41.959 --> 04:03:46.479 rolled out, Chinese mining conglomerates moved in. So China understands 3789 04:03:46.479 --> 04:03:49.079 because they screwed themselves out of their biggest asset, which 3790 04:03:49.200 --> 04:03:51.440 was their manpower, their numbers. That was a big thing 3791 04:03:51.760 --> 04:03:55.120 the Chinese military since the beginning. They'll throw two million 3792 04:03:55.200 --> 04:03:57.399 dudes out of problem. And I mean if they lose it, 3793 04:03:57.440 --> 04:03:59.959 they lose it. They don't care. They've never really cared 3794 04:04:00.079 --> 04:04:03.799 about losing manpower. So they have seen that this one 3795 04:04:03.879 --> 04:04:07.360 child policy has fucked them out of their biggest asset. 3796 04:04:07.680 --> 04:04:10.239 So they have been trying to wage a financial war 3797 04:04:10.360 --> 04:04:13.239 on the world, but they haven't been overtly loud about it. 3798 04:04:13.280 --> 04:04:15.879 They're basically throwing the rope around the neck and they 3799 04:04:15.879 --> 04:04:18.920 are getting ready to tighten the noos if ever needed. 3800 04:04:19.440 --> 04:04:22.000 But that's been their plan on the whole on the 3801 04:04:22.040 --> 04:04:24.559 whole back end of it that a lot of Americans 3802 04:04:24.559 --> 04:04:27.319 and a lot of Western countries don't really understand. Then 3803 04:04:27.360 --> 04:04:29.760 when you look at their Belton Road initiative and you 3804 04:04:29.799 --> 04:04:33.600 look at the actual principle behind it, the direction it's 3805 04:04:33.639 --> 04:04:36.920 going across the world, which countries does it make very 3806 04:04:36.959 --> 04:04:40.639 strategic stops and and everything else that's done like you said, yes, 3807 04:04:40.639 --> 04:04:44.520 for military purposes. Absolutely agree with that. It's also being 3808 04:04:44.600 --> 04:04:46.879 done to where they can cut off the flow to 3809 04:04:47.040 --> 04:04:51.079 certain countries because, like you said, semiconductors are that's a 3810 04:04:51.079 --> 04:04:53.399 big hot button item right now, right and I'm not 3811 04:04:53.399 --> 04:04:55.360 gonna I'm not saying that's gonna go away anytime soon 3812 04:04:55.399 --> 04:04:58.239 by any means. But when you look at the amount 3813 04:04:58.360 --> 04:05:01.920 of resources that other country tes rely on China for 3814 04:05:02.799 --> 04:05:05.159 the instant that somebody pisses them off enough, they could 3815 04:05:05.200 --> 04:05:07.760 just cut them off and they're screwed. And so it's 3816 04:05:08.120 --> 04:05:10.760 this is a war being waged on multiple fronts, and 3817 04:05:10.799 --> 04:05:12.319 they have to be smart about it because they no 3818 04:05:12.360 --> 04:05:15.520 longer have the manpower to back. They can't cash the 3819 04:05:15.639 --> 04:05:17.159 check that they used to be able to write. 3820 04:05:17.879 --> 04:05:22.799 I mean, like the Chinese military strategists lave in nineteen 3821 04:05:23.079 --> 04:05:28.479 ninety eight, they wrote a book called Unrestricted Warfare, and 3822 04:05:28.559 --> 04:05:32.879 it's about actually fighting against the US and they talk 3823 04:05:32.959 --> 04:05:37.520 about using all means of war except for conventional warfare, 3824 04:05:38.040 --> 04:05:44.319 so using all means including terrorism, including economic warfare, political warfare, lawfare, 3825 04:05:44.959 --> 04:05:45.600 drug fare. 3826 04:05:47.200 --> 04:05:49.120 China doesn't want a connectic war with the US. They 3827 04:05:49.120 --> 04:05:50.280 don't want that smoke, no. 3828 04:05:50.319 --> 04:05:54.239 Because they know if they get into a kinetic war, 3829 04:05:54.680 --> 04:05:57.200 they it's going to be a disastrous end for them. Yeah, 3830 04:05:57.280 --> 04:06:00.000 and they don't want to go that route. That's why 3831 04:05:59.920 --> 04:06:06.040 they're heavily investing in manipulating and you know, co opting 3832 04:06:06.120 --> 04:06:11.040 both Americans internally, but also destroying our next generations, whether 3833 04:06:11.159 --> 04:06:14.840 it's through fentanyl killing hundreds of thousands of Americans a year, 3834 04:06:15.479 --> 04:06:16.239 pretty year. 3835 04:06:17.200 --> 04:06:17.920 Or TikTok. 3836 04:06:18.159 --> 04:06:21.840 Rotten the minds, Yeah, rotten the minds because the same 3837 04:06:21.959 --> 04:06:27.559 bullshit that they propagate here to you know, to screw 3838 04:06:27.600 --> 04:06:31.959 the minds of the American younger generations are the future 3839 04:06:31.959 --> 04:06:35.200 of America. In this case, they will never put that 3840 04:06:35.440 --> 04:06:37.680 allot of that for their own people, for god now, 3841 04:06:39.319 --> 04:06:42.680 because their goal is to dominate the world. And that 3842 04:06:42.840 --> 04:06:52.879 is literally their agenda, if you like. In nineteen twenty one, 3843 04:06:53.159 --> 04:06:58.159 the Chinese leader Sun Yatsen. He wrote a book called 3844 04:06:58.159 --> 04:07:02.760 The International Development of China then, and in it he 3845 04:07:02.879 --> 04:07:06.440 pretty much highlights that within one hundred years there's gonna 3846 04:07:06.440 --> 04:07:11.840 be two major powers in the world. And he said 3847 04:07:11.879 --> 04:07:15.120 it's gonna be the Anglo uh the White race led 3848 04:07:15.159 --> 04:07:18.879 by the Anglo Saxons, and the Yellow race led by 3849 04:07:18.920 --> 04:07:23.079 the Chinese. And he says they're gonna they're gonna fight. 3850 04:07:24.600 --> 04:07:27.200 So China needs to prepare for that real fight. So 3851 04:07:27.319 --> 04:07:30.360 this is this is not like some ship that's like 3852 04:07:30.680 --> 04:07:35.760 happening in the past ten five years, Like they think strategically, 3853 04:07:36.000 --> 04:07:42.280 whereas the US unfortunately, you know, hm, one of like 3854 04:07:42.719 --> 04:07:48.319 that's like the the bad thing about our uh democracy 3855 04:07:48.440 --> 04:07:53.079 is that every four years you get a leadership change 3856 04:07:53.479 --> 04:07:58.120 and then they undo whatever policy was, you know, in 3857 04:07:58.200 --> 04:08:02.559 place the previous four So you were starting from scratch 3858 04:08:02.680 --> 04:08:05.799 every fucking four years. With China, it's like, all right, 3859 04:08:06.559 --> 04:08:08.840 this is our goal for the next five years, this 3860 04:08:08.920 --> 04:08:10.840 is our goal for the next ten years, this is 3861 04:08:10.879 --> 04:08:13.360 our goal for the next fifty years, this is our 3862 04:08:13.399 --> 04:08:15.600 goal for the next one hundred years, and it just 3863 04:08:15.680 --> 04:08:19.840 moves on in progression. Yeah, that's what has been so 3864 04:08:19.920 --> 04:08:22.760 successful and it's and it's you. 3865 04:08:22.719 --> 04:08:30.719 Know, yeah, there's definitely a downside to democracy one and 3866 04:08:30.920 --> 04:08:36.120 especially whenever you get the uh the elected officials who 3867 04:08:36.280 --> 04:08:39.399 can be so easily swayed when enough money is thrown 3868 04:08:39.440 --> 04:08:42.040 their way, regardless of what campaign promises they made to 3869 04:08:42.040 --> 04:08:45.200 get into office, regardless of whatever side of the aisle 3870 04:08:45.280 --> 04:08:47.959 they claim to be on, or whatever else. And a 3871 04:08:48.000 --> 04:08:50.520 perfect example of that is look at these Epstein files, 3872 04:08:50.840 --> 04:08:53.280 and before that, look at whatever kind of new policy 3873 04:08:53.360 --> 04:08:57.840 was trying to be enacted. Trump himself is he is 3874 04:08:57.840 --> 04:08:59.799 an outlier to a lot of things, and I get that, 3875 04:09:00.399 --> 04:09:03.040 but you have Trump derangement syndrome going so hard in 3876 04:09:03.120 --> 04:09:05.719 DC right now. You've got people that worship every word 3877 04:09:05.799 --> 04:09:08.600 he says because they want to be his guy. And 3878 04:09:08.600 --> 04:09:10.600 then you've got people that think that he's literally satan 3879 04:09:10.719 --> 04:09:14.920 and everything he says. It's more polarized, right but behind 3880 04:09:14.920 --> 04:09:18.239 closed doors, that money spends the same regardless of what 3881 04:09:18.520 --> 04:09:21.879 party these people claim to be about. And I mean, 3882 04:09:21.879 --> 04:09:24.319 don't get me wrong, I'm a huge proponent of democracy. 3883 04:09:24.319 --> 04:09:25.920 As a matter of fact, I wish we actually had 3884 04:09:26.079 --> 04:09:28.799 a true republic, not a democracy here. But that's just 3885 04:09:29.000 --> 04:09:34.639 my own hot take. But it breeds a perfect breeding 3886 04:09:34.639 --> 04:09:39.840 ground for advancement, and for technological advancement, and for socioeconomic advancement, 3887 04:09:39.879 --> 04:09:42.600 all these things. Democracy is the only system where you 3888 04:09:42.639 --> 04:09:45.520 can go from the lowest one percent to the wealthiest 3889 04:09:45.520 --> 04:09:50.760 one percent in one generation. No other system of economy 3890 04:09:50.840 --> 04:09:54.760 or government has that ability readily available for their citizenry. Right, 3891 04:09:54.799 --> 04:09:59.079 So there's so many goods, but there is so much 3892 04:09:59.239 --> 04:10:01.639 negative that comes with that as well. And you just 3893 04:10:01.920 --> 04:10:04.239 highlighted a very crucial point in that for sure. 3894 04:10:04.520 --> 04:10:08.239 Well, I mean from the like from the espionage perspective, 3895 04:10:08.239 --> 04:10:13.440 for example, China is engaging in deep espionage. They're engaging 3896 04:10:13.479 --> 04:10:18.959 in political warfare, taking advantage of the openings of our 3897 04:10:19.440 --> 04:10:21.319 democratic system. That's the thing. 3898 04:10:21.520 --> 04:10:24.280 Oh shit, we had our own CIA spying on Trump 3899 04:10:24.520 --> 04:10:27.920 from the last administration and then two administrations before that. 3900 04:10:28.200 --> 04:10:31.680 We're spying on him for something else, And it's the 3901 04:10:31.760 --> 04:10:34.280 loyalties aren't where they need to be because the head 3902 04:10:34.319 --> 04:10:36.319 of the CIA and the head of the FBI are 3903 04:10:36.360 --> 04:10:39.680 appointed by the current president, which means the former head. 3904 04:10:39.719 --> 04:10:42.040 And that's the thing. It's a figurehead. The agent, the 3905 04:10:42.079 --> 04:10:44.600 field agent that's working for the CIA and been there 3906 04:10:44.600 --> 04:10:47.799 for twenty years, has been there through multiple administrations. So 3907 04:10:47.840 --> 04:10:49.760 they're just there digging up the dirt on whoever they're 3908 04:10:49.760 --> 04:10:51.559 getting paid to dig up the dirt on. It doesn't 3909 04:10:51.639 --> 04:10:53.799 matter to them. That's no skin off their nose. But 3910 04:10:53.840 --> 04:10:57.120 that's that's the point. It's a giant blackmail operation in 3911 04:10:57.159 --> 04:11:01.879 that kind of espionage warfare that pendulum swings both ways, 3912 04:11:01.959 --> 04:11:05.719 even in house, and that's a massive problem. 3913 04:11:06.319 --> 04:11:09.799 But we should be targeting, you know, we should be 3914 04:11:09.840 --> 04:11:15.959 focused on our external enemy rather than you know, taking 3915 04:11:16.000 --> 04:11:16.879 our own graves. 3916 04:11:16.920 --> 04:11:21.399 But yeah, anyway, Yo, I do appreciate you coming on 3917 04:11:21.440 --> 04:11:23.239 the show this episode. You said you might be able 3918 04:11:23.280 --> 04:11:24.920 to give us two hours, and here where we are 3919 04:11:24.920 --> 04:11:28.319 made it past four hours of talking about some really 3920 04:11:28.360 --> 04:11:31.440 in depth conversations. I thoroughly enjoyed it. I mean, I 3921 04:11:32.159 --> 04:11:34.799 know our good cult members are gonna really appreciate it. 3922 04:11:34.840 --> 04:11:37.840 So Sally, for any of our cult members that are 3923 04:11:37.920 --> 04:11:40.079 listening to this that would like to support you in 3924 04:11:40.120 --> 04:11:43.520 your efforts or maybe find more information about your cause 3925 04:11:44.079 --> 04:11:47.360 and give all the shameless plug dude, your websites, your socials, 3926 04:11:47.440 --> 04:11:49.600 whatever you're willing to tell us about, please let it 3927 04:11:49.600 --> 04:11:49.959 be known. 3928 04:11:50.600 --> 04:11:54.360 Sure. Yeah, our website is East E A S T. 3929 04:11:55.159 --> 04:11:57.799 Dash t U r k I s t A N 3930 04:11:57.879 --> 04:12:01.280 dot net, east trucused on dot net and then you 3931 04:12:01.280 --> 04:12:04.120 can follow us on et x al gov or et 3932 04:12:04.319 --> 04:12:07.920 national or you can follow me on Salihudarra and it's 3933 04:12:07.959 --> 04:12:12.920 the same for Facebook, Twitter, x LinkedIn Instagram. 3934 04:12:13.479 --> 04:12:17.239 Yes, indeed, yes, indeed, So good cult members. I want 3935 04:12:17.280 --> 04:12:18.920 to thank you for listening to this, and this is 3936 04:12:18.920 --> 04:12:20.639 a rather long one, but I think that was an 3937 04:12:20.680 --> 04:12:23.159 excellent one. And for anybody who was listening to this 3938 04:12:23.239 --> 04:12:25.799 that would like to see all of us, ravenly had 3939 04:12:25.799 --> 04:12:28.799 to take off early because it's it's one fifteen in 3940 04:12:28.840 --> 04:12:31.239 the morning our time, and you know, we can only 3941 04:12:31.399 --> 04:12:33.079 I honestly didn't think it was gonna go this long, 3942 04:12:33.120 --> 04:12:35.200 but I sure wasn't gonna stop the conversation once it 3943 04:12:35.239 --> 04:12:37.479 got rolling. Here. Man, we covered a lot of ground 3944 04:12:37.479 --> 04:12:40.079 this evening. So for anybody that would like to see 3945 04:12:40.280 --> 04:12:42.879 the video of this rather than just hear our voices, 3946 04:12:42.959 --> 04:12:44.479 the only place to get that would be to go 3947 04:12:44.520 --> 04:12:47.239 to Patreon dot com slash Cult to Conspiracy Podcast. Y'all 3948 04:12:47.319 --> 04:12:49.399 know we got kicked off of YouTube in twenty twenty 3949 04:12:49.440 --> 04:12:52.040 because we said words that they don't like, so we 3950 04:12:52.040 --> 04:12:55.399 don't play the algorithm games. Here we are about free speech. 3951 04:12:55.600 --> 04:12:57.920 The only place to get these videos Patreon dot com 3952 04:12:57.920 --> 04:12:59.799 slash cult to conspiracy. We got a couple of tears 3953 04:12:59.799 --> 04:13:02.280 for entry over there. If you go to that five 3954 04:13:02.399 --> 04:13:06.600 dollar tier, that lowly tier, what you'll get is the 3955 04:13:06.680 --> 04:13:08.920 video access to all of these episodes a couple of 3956 04:13:08.959 --> 04:13:11.040 days in advance, sometimes even a week in advance. Some 3957 04:13:11.079 --> 04:13:13.440 of these episodes drop, but probably the main reason why 3958 04:13:13.479 --> 04:13:15.799 people go to patreon dot com is because it is 3959 04:13:15.840 --> 04:13:20.520 the only place to get these episodes absolutely promotional for 3960 04:13:21.079 --> 04:13:25.000 day listen. We know ads suck, commercials suck. We get 3961 04:13:25.040 --> 04:13:28.040 that you want to get the episodes completely commercial free. 3962 04:13:28.120 --> 04:13:30.559 Patreon dot com slash call it a conspiracy, But if 3963 04:13:30.600 --> 04:13:32.040 you sign up with that third eye all the way 3964 04:13:32.040 --> 04:13:34.120 open tier, then you'll also get to join us for 3965 04:13:34.159 --> 04:13:36.520 our Tuesday night Lives that we host every Tuesday night 3966 04:13:36.559 --> 04:13:38.760 at nine pm Central. Those links are all down in 3967 04:13:38.840 --> 04:13:42.159 the show notes below. Once again, Sally, thank you so 3968 04:13:42.280 --> 04:13:44.399 much for coming on to this episode. Brother. I learned 3969 04:13:44.399 --> 04:13:46.200 a lot. I know our good cult members did, and 3970 04:13:46.559 --> 04:13:48.120 I hope that we get to hear from you again 3971 04:13:48.159 --> 04:13:49.600 here in a few months, and here that you've made 3972 04:13:49.639 --> 04:13:52.760 some crazy advancements and that there's more, there's more acknowledgment, 3973 04:13:52.840 --> 04:13:54.799 and there's actual boots on the ground that's making some 3974 04:13:54.959 --> 04:13:57.959 changes happen to free your people of the genocide that 3975 04:13:57.959 --> 04:14:01.319 they are legitimately experiencing right now now that so many 3976 04:14:01.360 --> 04:14:04.799 people don't know what anything about. So thank you so 3977 04:14:04.879 --> 04:14:06.319 much for coming on the show, brother, I really do 3978 04:14:06.360 --> 04:14:06.959 appreciate it. 3979 04:14:07.319 --> 04:14:09.920 Thank you for having me and giving me this opportunity. 3980 04:14:10.120 --> 04:14:13.159 Absolutely man, and again, good cult members, if you would 3981 04:14:13.200 --> 04:14:15.239 like to support us in this show and boost the 3982 04:14:15.280 --> 04:14:18.280 algorithm matrixs, then what you could do is please hit 3983 04:14:18.319 --> 04:14:20.639 the five stars, hit the Shares of Life, subscribes to comments, 3984 04:14:20.680 --> 04:14:22.719 leave a poster, review, and shares with they're friends and family, 3985 04:14:22.799 --> 04:14:26.399 Share us everywhere, especially this episode. Share this episode all 3986 04:14:26.479 --> 04:14:28.760 over the world. Here's the deal. 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And we thank 3997 04:14:49.879 --> 04:14:51.840 you for everybody's already gone and done so. And with 3998 04:14:51.920 --> 04:14:54.799 all of this being said, this was another beautiful episode 3999 04:14:54.799 --> 04:14:58.200 of the Cult of Conspiracy. I am the ca to 4000 04:14:58.360 --> 04:15:00.680 Night and there is one very important, t humanly vital 4001 04:15:00.719 --> 04:15:02.680 peice of information we need you know, were just as 4002 04:15:02.760 --> 04:15:05.479 cern as humanly possible that