WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.160 --> 00:00:05.879 Meaning a light. Man like this, man letting butterfly flapping 2 00:00:05.879 --> 00:00:06.280 and wing. 3 00:00:06.280 --> 00:00:08.839 They've down in the forest. Man gonna cause the tree fall, 4 00:00:09.080 --> 00:00:10.880 letting five thousand miles away. 5 00:00:10.919 --> 00:00:12.279 Man, nobody see. 6 00:00:12.240 --> 00:00:14.720 Nobody. 7 00:00:17.519 --> 00:00:18.559 See. You don't need to know. 8 00:00:18.879 --> 00:00:22.039 Man, like you followed another story and. 9 00:00:22.120 --> 00:00:25.359 You got back to flect. That's man, Man got black 10 00:00:25.440 --> 00:00:26.320 and dag on Panama. 11 00:00:26.359 --> 00:00:28.879 Man, you don't matter, man, I. 12 00:00:28.879 --> 00:00:38.159 Know all right. Kyle Ansloan, Welcome to Jay Burdon Show. 13 00:00:38.159 --> 00:00:39.560 How you doing Man, great? 14 00:00:39.600 --> 00:00:40.399 Thanks for having me. 15 00:00:41.560 --> 00:00:43.600 Yeah, man, I'm I'm really excited to have you on. 16 00:00:44.399 --> 00:00:47.600 I've been aware of your work for for quite some time. 17 00:00:47.679 --> 00:00:51.920 We travel in similar circles, but recently you were a 18 00:00:51.920 --> 00:00:55.560 guest host on Provoked with Scott Horton and Darryl Cooper, 19 00:00:55.600 --> 00:00:58.799 one of my favorite podcasts, and so yeah, man, I'm 20 00:00:58.840 --> 00:01:00.119 really excited to finally. 21 00:01:01.000 --> 00:01:03.359 Yeah, well, thanks for having me. I also saw you 22 00:01:03.439 --> 00:01:06.280 on Provoked and that was the first time I became 23 00:01:06.319 --> 00:01:08.480 aware of your work, and I believe I started following you, 24 00:01:08.640 --> 00:01:10.799 following you on nets and I've seen some of your 25 00:01:10.840 --> 00:01:14.159 stuff since. And you know, obviously we travel in the 26 00:01:14.200 --> 00:01:17.560 same circles because you know, just great knowledge. I really 27 00:01:17.599 --> 00:01:20.200 like your perspective on something. So I appreciate you having 28 00:01:20.239 --> 00:01:21.400 me on glad to be on the show. 29 00:01:22.200 --> 00:01:27.120 Well, I appreciate it, man. Uh So, really, as much 30 00:01:27.120 --> 00:01:29.280 as I hate to talk about it because it is 31 00:01:30.120 --> 00:01:36.319 is incredibly depressing. But obviously, the story of really twenty 32 00:01:36.359 --> 00:01:39.760 twenty six at this point is the war in Iran, 33 00:01:40.480 --> 00:01:42.680 And you and I were kind of joking about the 34 00:01:42.680 --> 00:01:46.640 fact that this war has been we have claimed victory 35 00:01:46.640 --> 00:01:49.159 in this war depending on who you ask, six, two, 36 00:01:49.239 --> 00:01:52.560 nine times in a war that is still ongoing. And 37 00:01:52.599 --> 00:01:55.840 look like, I'm not a professional when it comes to 38 00:01:55.879 --> 00:01:59.120 international relations, but it seems to me that if you 39 00:01:59.159 --> 00:02:02.400 say the war is over and it keeps happening, it 40 00:02:02.480 --> 00:02:06.000 probably wasn't over. Just a kind of wild guest there. 41 00:02:06.599 --> 00:02:09.680 Right, I mean, how many times too saying the war 42 00:02:09.800 --> 00:02:12.599 is won? Are saying Iran is defeated. I mean there's 43 00:02:12.639 --> 00:02:15.199 been times where Trump says Iran is defeated and with 44 00:02:15.479 --> 00:02:17.680 thirty minutes, who are an now where they're firing a 45 00:02:17.759 --> 00:02:21.360 slavo and missiles at both Israel and US bases in 46 00:02:21.400 --> 00:02:26.199 the region. So it's it's wild that Donald Trump has 47 00:02:26.520 --> 00:02:29.319 tried to say that we've won this war so many 48 00:02:29.400 --> 00:02:34.080 times when the administration is still looking at options for escalation, 49 00:02:34.280 --> 00:02:37.400 so clearly it's not one if we're preparing the ground invasion. 50 00:02:38.840 --> 00:02:42.439 Well, Kyle, I hate to inform you that you have 51 00:02:43.120 --> 00:02:47.719 runed out. You are a foreign agent, maybe a trader 52 00:02:47.759 --> 00:02:51.159 to America for remembering something that happened three days ago. 53 00:02:52.439 --> 00:02:55.080 In all seriousness, right, the thing that I have found 54 00:02:55.120 --> 00:02:59.759 the most aggravating has primarily been the sort of post 55 00:02:59.800 --> 00:03:06.120 Hauck justifications. You probably saw a clip from Ben Shapiro 56 00:03:06.560 --> 00:03:11.319 going around where he was arguing for a ground invasion, 57 00:03:11.840 --> 00:03:13.439 you know, like we need to do this in order 58 00:03:13.479 --> 00:03:17.280 to you know, finish the fight, and he very disingenuously 59 00:03:17.319 --> 00:03:19.360 turned and said, well, and this is why our soldiers 60 00:03:19.360 --> 00:03:21.800 are so great. That's why you have to support our troops, 61 00:03:22.199 --> 00:03:25.159 because they knew that this this was on the table, 62 00:03:25.199 --> 00:03:29.639 and they put their their lives at risk. Albeit I'm 63 00:03:29.680 --> 00:03:33.199 sure you remember many people will that that is not 64 00:03:33.319 --> 00:03:37.560 what Ben Shapiro said a week ago or two weeks ago. 65 00:03:38.199 --> 00:03:41.159 First it was, you know, just a decapitation strike just 66 00:03:41.199 --> 00:03:43.800 to take out the mullets. Then it was, well, we 67 00:03:43.840 --> 00:03:46.840 need to blow up some stuff to stop the nuclear 68 00:03:46.960 --> 00:03:51.319 program or the ballistic missiles and now, of course, you know, 69 00:03:51.759 --> 00:03:54.039 the whole time while saying we're doing this so we 70 00:03:54.080 --> 00:03:58.080 don't have to send troops in on the ground, Well, 71 00:03:58.120 --> 00:04:01.280 all of a sudden, right, you got walked like a 72 00:04:01.319 --> 00:04:04.199 dog by the neocons. And I bring up Shapiro because 73 00:04:04.199 --> 00:04:08.120 I find him irritating. I don't like him, but he's 74 00:04:08.120 --> 00:04:11.199 not the only one. Right, have you noticed that same 75 00:04:11.319 --> 00:04:14.280 kind of slow escalation in rhetoric. 76 00:04:14.919 --> 00:04:17.680 Yeah, well, you know, in one way, it is a 77 00:04:17.759 --> 00:04:21.240 slow escalation in rhetoric. In another way, It's only been 78 00:04:21.360 --> 00:04:25.079 a month, and in that month, Ben Shapiro has gone 79 00:04:25.160 --> 00:04:28.720 from claiming that people say that the Iran war is 80 00:04:28.720 --> 00:04:31.399 an escalation trap and the US is going to get 81 00:04:31.480 --> 00:04:34.439 drawn into this prolonged thing. It's going to turn into 82 00:04:34.480 --> 00:04:37.319 a ground invasion. And he was saying, you know, he 83 00:04:37.519 --> 00:04:39.800 was saying that the people saying that are saying it 84 00:04:39.839 --> 00:04:41.199 because they're anti Semits. 85 00:04:41.319 --> 00:04:41.519 Right. 86 00:04:41.920 --> 00:04:46.319 That was a month ago, not years ago, not a 87 00:04:46.399 --> 00:04:48.920 decade ago. It's not something he was writing when he 88 00:04:49.000 --> 00:04:52.480 was at UCLA and College. He was saying that on 89 00:04:52.600 --> 00:04:56.439 his current show a month ago. And now he's just 90 00:04:56.519 --> 00:04:58.879 saying that this is the policy and we all need 91 00:04:58.920 --> 00:05:02.800 to accept it now. Of course, you know Shapiro who 92 00:05:03.000 --> 00:05:06.439 likes to brand himself as like, you know, a conservative, 93 00:05:06.600 --> 00:05:11.800 and he believes in the Constitution. This isn't legally a war. 94 00:05:12.279 --> 00:05:15.040 I mean, you know, it's an illegal war being waged 95 00:05:15.079 --> 00:05:18.040 by the United States. It is a war, but Congress 96 00:05:18.079 --> 00:05:22.319 hasn't declared war, given an authorization for use of military force. 97 00:05:22.680 --> 00:05:26.439 Hell even provided the Pentagon funding to fight a war 98 00:05:26.519 --> 00:05:28.920 in the Middle East, to send our soldiers to the milie. 99 00:05:29.040 --> 00:05:32.160 So Shapiro saying, well, this is what you signed up 100 00:05:32.160 --> 00:05:34.519 for when you joined the military, is to go fight 101 00:05:34.560 --> 00:05:37.759 at the Dretcha and the commander in chief. No, they 102 00:05:38.000 --> 00:05:42.680 fight in defense of their country or when Congress declares war, 103 00:05:42.920 --> 00:05:45.839 and neither of those things are going on here. So 104 00:05:46.319 --> 00:05:49.639 it really isn't third duty to fight this war. And 105 00:05:49.720 --> 00:05:52.800 of course Shapiro is all on board with this because 106 00:05:53.160 --> 00:05:57.360 the real beneficiary, the only party that really benefits from this, 107 00:05:57.920 --> 00:06:01.160 is the select group in the Israelis leadership. It is 108 00:06:01.199 --> 00:06:04.720 a widespread view of Israel, but it's not all Israelis 109 00:06:05.040 --> 00:06:08.959 who want the Greater Israel project. They want to expand 110 00:06:09.040 --> 00:06:12.720 Israel's borders and doing that requires them to be the 111 00:06:12.759 --> 00:06:16.160 only power in the region and this is you know, 112 00:06:16.279 --> 00:06:20.079 achieving that goal through numerous effects. One, it's destroying Iran. 113 00:06:20.519 --> 00:06:24.560 It's also destroying the Golf States. But it's also getting 114 00:06:24.879 --> 00:06:27.160 rid of the framework or it could get rid of 115 00:06:27.160 --> 00:06:30.240 the framework in the Middle East that would prevent Israel 116 00:06:30.319 --> 00:06:34.639 from attacking Jordan, Our Saudi Arabia or the UAE if 117 00:06:34.639 --> 00:06:37.120 they chose to do so, which is those states are 118 00:06:37.120 --> 00:06:40.920 protected by the US. And so you know what this 119 00:06:41.040 --> 00:06:44.560 war is proving to the leadership in you know, Riod 120 00:06:44.680 --> 00:06:48.680 and in all these Golf Arab countries, is that this 121 00:06:48.839 --> 00:06:51.279 deal you made with the United States where we put 122 00:06:51.319 --> 00:06:54.079 our bases in your country and you buy our weapons 123 00:06:54.160 --> 00:06:57.600 and in exchange, you're a part of the American security 124 00:06:57.639 --> 00:07:01.279 block and we will defend you if attacked. Simply isn't true. 125 00:07:01.279 --> 00:07:04.079 I mean, these countries are being at tat not because 126 00:07:04.079 --> 00:07:06.959 Iran wanted to go to war with them, because the 127 00:07:07.079 --> 00:07:09.720 US and Israel chose to go to war with the Rod. 128 00:07:09.839 --> 00:07:15.000 So this is I think really a huge, a huge 129 00:07:15.680 --> 00:07:18.079 step in the right diredge and for those people who 130 00:07:18.120 --> 00:07:22.240 want the Greater Israel project. Should this war work out 131 00:07:22.279 --> 00:07:25.759 where Iran is in some way like in the middle 132 00:07:25.800 --> 00:07:29.759 of a civil war, or just utterly, utterly destroyed. 133 00:07:31.120 --> 00:07:34.160 Well, and this is something that I spoke about Scott 134 00:07:34.199 --> 00:07:38.199 Horton with If I'm remembering my schedule right when you 135 00:07:38.240 --> 00:07:41.839 were listening to this listener, this will happen two days ago, 136 00:07:42.399 --> 00:07:44.480 so you know, scroll back if you're interested in more 137 00:07:44.480 --> 00:07:49.759 contexts there. But it's incredibly disingenuous, and that's what's so 138 00:07:49.839 --> 00:07:52.959 frustrating about this. As you mentioned, it's not like you 139 00:07:53.040 --> 00:07:56.120 were i ed or digging up in someone's statements from 140 00:07:56.120 --> 00:07:58.920 when they were sixteen seventeen, you know, when you say 141 00:07:58.959 --> 00:08:01.839 things maybe you don't mean or where We've had enough 142 00:08:01.879 --> 00:08:04.240 time that the facts on the ground can change, People 143 00:08:04.240 --> 00:08:07.399 can grow and evolve their thinking over time. This is 144 00:08:07.399 --> 00:08:13.279 two weeks ago, right, It isn't a vast span of time. 145 00:08:13.959 --> 00:08:17.879 And really, there is an attempt to gaslight people. There 146 00:08:17.920 --> 00:08:21.360 is an attempt to you know, effectively convince them that 147 00:08:21.399 --> 00:08:25.040 they are crazy, that they are you know, irredeemable racist 148 00:08:25.160 --> 00:08:29.399 anti Semites, that they harbor some irrational hatred, you know, 149 00:08:29.480 --> 00:08:32.519 for the state of Israel. And that's the only reason 150 00:08:32.600 --> 00:08:36.879 why you have objections, not the very real on the 151 00:08:36.879 --> 00:08:40.960 ground problems we are seeing, right, gas prices, diplomatic issues 152 00:08:41.159 --> 00:08:44.159 things that I might add, Many of the critics of 153 00:08:44.200 --> 00:08:48.039 this war before it started brought up said, well, what 154 00:08:48.200 --> 00:08:50.600 happens when Iran shuts down the strait of horror moods? 155 00:08:51.039 --> 00:08:53.720 You know what happens to our diplomatic partners who rely 156 00:08:53.879 --> 00:08:58.000 on Iranian energy? Well, that was all on important nonsense. 157 00:08:58.120 --> 00:09:00.000 You know, you again, were maybe an agent of before 158 00:09:00.080 --> 00:09:02.759 and power for bringing that up. And now that those 159 00:09:02.799 --> 00:09:06.960 predictions have come to pass, Well, that argument, we never 160 00:09:07.039 --> 00:09:09.240 had it, right, This is always what we were saying. 161 00:09:09.759 --> 00:09:11.799 One of the comments that I received, and you know, 162 00:09:11.799 --> 00:09:13.399 you shouldn't read comments, but every once in a while 163 00:09:13.440 --> 00:09:16.440 they're sort of insightful, said, you know this, this feels 164 00:09:16.559 --> 00:09:19.159 very much like we were always at war with Eurasia. Right, 165 00:09:19.679 --> 00:09:22.679 we have always been, you know, in the exact situation 166 00:09:22.799 --> 00:09:26.480 we have been now. Right again, I bring up the 167 00:09:26.480 --> 00:09:28.440 straight of horror moves, not because I particularly know anything 168 00:09:28.440 --> 00:09:31.480 about how global shipping works, but I'm old enough to 169 00:09:31.519 --> 00:09:35.919 remember when it was open a month ago, right, And 170 00:09:35.960 --> 00:09:39.279 I think that that's what's sort of crazy making about 171 00:09:39.279 --> 00:09:44.519 this is the the the constant kind of willful sort 172 00:09:44.559 --> 00:09:48.279 of like acclusion of the facts, right, willfully resetting the 173 00:09:48.360 --> 00:09:51.840 chatbot if you will every day right, It's like this 174 00:09:51.919 --> 00:09:55.399 isnt This is a story that has been has been 175 00:09:56.159 --> 00:09:59.440 sort of truncated at every moment. It's is you can 176 00:09:59.440 --> 00:10:01.320 probably tell I get a little bit upset about it. 177 00:10:01.840 --> 00:10:06.279 But I'm curious, Kyle, what do you make of the 178 00:10:06.360 --> 00:10:11.960 Joe Kent resignation, because to me, it seems symptomatic of 179 00:10:12.279 --> 00:10:18.679 a wider split within MEGA specifically and the general cultural right. 180 00:10:19.279 --> 00:10:22.120 But I'm curious to get your thoughts on it. 181 00:10:22.919 --> 00:10:27.279 Yeah, I mean, I think from this is my assessment, 182 00:10:27.320 --> 00:10:30.600 from how Joe Kent has handled the resonation and how 183 00:10:30.639 --> 00:10:35.600 he's spoken about Trump afterwards, where he look a lot 184 00:10:35.600 --> 00:10:38.440 of people have said, oh, Joe Kent is looking for 185 00:10:38.679 --> 00:10:42.399 you know, his nets political move right. Essentially, he's the 186 00:10:42.440 --> 00:10:45.320 first rat jumping off of the ship. Here he sees 187 00:10:45.360 --> 00:10:48.039 it going down and he's gonna say, ah, you know, 188 00:10:48.159 --> 00:10:50.360 I told him it was all a bad idea. But 189 00:10:50.480 --> 00:10:54.279 he's really just trying, I think, to end this conflict 190 00:10:54.360 --> 00:10:57.240 like that is his only goal, and uh, you know, 191 00:10:57.320 --> 00:11:01.000 we're This has really bothered me. I've kind of noticed 192 00:11:01.000 --> 00:11:05.240 this where a lot of people, particularly on the right 193 00:11:05.279 --> 00:11:09.200 half of America, will say we should all praise Donald Trump, 194 00:11:09.480 --> 00:11:11.559 and you say it was a great move if he 195 00:11:11.720 --> 00:11:14.840 ends this war tomorrow, right, Like, we all have to 196 00:11:14.960 --> 00:11:18.279 appeal to Trump's ego because we know if we don't 197 00:11:18.320 --> 00:11:20.919 do that, then we're not going to get this war. 198 00:11:20.960 --> 00:11:24.039 And it's just but it's disgusting, right, no, Like, even 199 00:11:24.039 --> 00:11:27.279 if this war ends tomorrow, Like Donald Trump is a 200 00:11:27.279 --> 00:11:31.720 war criminal. A US bomb destroyed an Iranian school in 201 00:11:31.759 --> 00:11:35.080 a surprise attack on a country that posed no threat 202 00:11:35.120 --> 00:11:37.919 to the United States of America. Right, they don't have 203 00:11:37.960 --> 00:11:41.320 a nuclear program, they don't have an ICBM program, And 204 00:11:41.440 --> 00:11:44.600 they would say they would only attack the US in 205 00:11:44.679 --> 00:11:48.559 response to a US or Israeli attack on Iran, which 206 00:11:48.639 --> 00:11:50.799 you could say, oh, they're making a threat, but that 207 00:11:51.000 --> 00:11:55.240 is the standing case with every country in the world, right, Like, 208 00:11:55.679 --> 00:11:59.799 if we attack China, China is going to attack US 209 00:12:00.039 --> 00:12:03.320 allies in US bases in their region. And just the 210 00:12:03.360 --> 00:12:06.679 same as if the United States was attached by another country, 211 00:12:06.720 --> 00:12:09.200 we would attack, you know, their bases in the region, 212 00:12:09.279 --> 00:12:13.279 maybe their allies that they're involved in the fight. So 213 00:12:13.679 --> 00:12:16.519 you know, that's just standard how the world operates. That's 214 00:12:16.600 --> 00:12:20.120 what sovereign countries do, is they say, if we have to, 215 00:12:20.279 --> 00:12:23.679 we will defend ourselves against your military assets and allies. 216 00:12:24.840 --> 00:12:29.440 So you know, Kent is really just working hard here. 217 00:12:29.519 --> 00:12:32.279 They'll to try to sell to Donald Trump that the 218 00:12:32.360 --> 00:12:35.159 right move is to take an off ramp. I guess 219 00:12:35.200 --> 00:12:38.360 as he understands where we go up the escalation ladder 220 00:12:38.360 --> 00:12:43.440 from here that bombing Iran into submission really isn't an option. 221 00:12:44.120 --> 00:12:47.240 And so unless you're willing to just pack up and go, 222 00:12:47.600 --> 00:12:51.399 they're going to put ground troops in. If not, like 223 00:12:51.879 --> 00:12:54.879 you know what, towards maybe using nuclear weapons are really 224 00:12:54.919 --> 00:12:58.159 the only two options up the escalator ladder. I think 225 00:12:58.200 --> 00:13:00.720 the US has you know, they could bomb more targets, 226 00:13:00.759 --> 00:13:04.320 but again that's not going to remove the Islamic Republic 227 00:13:04.399 --> 00:13:07.720 and they're going to rebuild once this conflict is over, 228 00:13:08.080 --> 00:13:10.919 and if we continue to attack, they'll continue to fire back. 229 00:13:11.519 --> 00:13:14.480 So Kent is just trying to resign it and trying 230 00:13:14.519 --> 00:13:17.639 to get Trump out of office. And one thing I 231 00:13:17.679 --> 00:13:20.559 want to say, you make a really good point. It's 232 00:13:20.600 --> 00:13:24.799 like resetting the aich chatbot every day with the new 233 00:13:24.879 --> 00:13:27.879 round of propaganda that we're hearing, right, Like, what we 234 00:13:27.960 --> 00:13:32.399 said yesterday is completely irrelevant. This is what we're doing today. 235 00:13:33.279 --> 00:13:36.399 The interesting thing is it doesn't seem to be working, 236 00:13:36.759 --> 00:13:40.480 because even if you reset the AI chatbot, everybody on 237 00:13:40.840 --> 00:13:44.440 ets could post a video of what Shapiro was saying 238 00:13:44.480 --> 00:13:46.519 in the first days of this conflict, how it was 239 00:13:46.559 --> 00:13:48.279 going to be a quick war and we are going 240 00:13:48.320 --> 00:13:50.679 to be out, And the people saying this was going 241 00:13:50.720 --> 00:13:54.200 to be entangling a conflict with a ground occupation like 242 00:13:54.240 --> 00:13:58.600 a rock are now only raw and they're hysterical, they're pannikins, 243 00:13:59.080 --> 00:14:03.080 they're anti submit, they're pro ron whatever he wanted to say, 244 00:14:03.320 --> 00:14:06.320 But now he's saying those exad things, and so it 245 00:14:06.440 --> 00:14:09.000 doesn't I don't think it's going to work this time. 246 00:14:09.080 --> 00:14:11.600 I don't think it worth. The propaganda worked very well 247 00:14:12.200 --> 00:14:15.519 in Ukraine for the same reasons, because everybody was able 248 00:14:15.559 --> 00:14:18.879 to play clips of all these figures during the two 249 00:14:18.919 --> 00:14:22.919 thousand's twenty tens, mainly saying that hey, you know, if 250 00:14:22.960 --> 00:14:25.600 you do this, you're going to provoke Russia and we're 251 00:14:25.639 --> 00:14:28.279 going to end up having the conflict. You know, it's 252 00:14:28.360 --> 00:14:32.480 not like the Iraq War, where Americans are basically forced 253 00:14:32.519 --> 00:14:35.399 to rely on CNN, Fox News, the Washington Post, the 254 00:14:35.440 --> 00:14:38.960 New York Times for their information about the conflict, and 255 00:14:39.080 --> 00:14:42.519 they didn't do these kinds of things where they said, hmm, 256 00:14:42.679 --> 00:14:45.200 this is what did Cheney said two weeks ago, this 257 00:14:45.360 --> 00:14:48.039 is what he's saying now. But we you know, in 258 00:14:48.120 --> 00:14:51.000 anti war dot com existed be then. But you know, 259 00:14:51.120 --> 00:14:54.679 unless you're in those niche corners of the Internet, you 260 00:14:54.759 --> 00:14:58.279 really didn't know. Now it's on ends every day in 261 00:14:58.320 --> 00:15:02.120 front of very by his face, humiliating Ben Shapiro and 262 00:15:02.200 --> 00:15:04.919 Mark Levin and Mike Kacabee and Ted Cruz. I mean, 263 00:15:05.320 --> 00:15:09.399 they're just getting annihilated on the platform every day, and 264 00:15:09.480 --> 00:15:12.840 so I think public opinion is going to continue to move. 265 00:15:13.279 --> 00:15:18.159 The only thing with Kent's resonation is I hope somebody 266 00:15:18.279 --> 00:15:21.399 joins him, right I think the only problem right now 267 00:15:21.480 --> 00:15:24.720 is he's kind of on an island. Had Toulsi Gabbert 268 00:15:24.720 --> 00:15:26.879 resigned to I think it would have made a bigger deal. 269 00:15:27.639 --> 00:15:31.320 So hopefully, you know, more momentum roles. As you know, 270 00:15:31.480 --> 00:15:35.679 people look on ets and they see overwhelmingly the Americans 271 00:15:36.200 --> 00:15:39.879 not only are opposed to this war, but really do 272 00:15:40.120 --> 00:15:42.440 hate the people who are lying to them about it. 273 00:15:45.039 --> 00:15:51.360 Well, and to that point, this is additionally to any 274 00:15:51.600 --> 00:15:53.600 you know, moral concerns we may or may not have, 275 00:15:54.159 --> 00:15:58.480 This is an abject political disaster. You'll notice speaking of 276 00:15:58.519 --> 00:16:05.759 the kind of continually redefined goals measurements, you know, how 277 00:16:05.799 --> 00:16:09.000 we define success, how we have defeated Iran six to 278 00:16:09.080 --> 00:16:11.960 nine times. The polling and how the polling has been 279 00:16:12.000 --> 00:16:15.120 reported has been quite interesting because you'll notice that the 280 00:16:15.639 --> 00:16:20.600 focus is on MAGA Republicans, and as I'm sure you're aware, 281 00:16:20.679 --> 00:16:25.320 Kyle Uh, there's no official voter rolls for that. You 282 00:16:25.320 --> 00:16:28.840 don't join the MAGA Republican Party if you self describe 283 00:16:28.840 --> 00:16:32.559 as that, that basically means I'm personally myself a giant 284 00:16:32.600 --> 00:16:37.080 fan of Donald Trump, which is basically a proxy for 285 00:16:37.240 --> 00:16:39.600 what do I think about this war. So when they're 286 00:16:39.639 --> 00:16:41.919 saying things in kind of in North Korea s fashion, 287 00:16:42.000 --> 00:16:44.600 that one hundred percent of people who like this war 288 00:16:44.720 --> 00:16:48.519 say they like this war, It's like, well, I mean, yeah, 289 00:16:48.759 --> 00:16:51.440 I probably could have figured out one out because on 290 00:16:52.080 --> 00:16:55.080 pretty much any other issue, and you know, I'm sure 291 00:16:55.080 --> 00:16:57.440 we're all aware of how polls are manipulated in any 292 00:16:57.519 --> 00:17:01.639 number of directions, but I can think of almost no 293 00:17:01.759 --> 00:17:04.640 issue that one hundred percent of Americans agree on. I'm 294 00:17:04.640 --> 00:17:06.960 talking about like really basic ones like is murder right 295 00:17:07.039 --> 00:17:08.799 or wrong? Like there's gonna be at least someone out 296 00:17:08.839 --> 00:17:11.839 there right right, even just to throw the poll. 297 00:17:13.000 --> 00:17:17.240 It's it's absurd because typically they would maybe pull like 298 00:17:17.319 --> 00:17:20.480 they would say, Biden voters are Trump voters, like that 299 00:17:20.559 --> 00:17:23.440 would be the collection. And that's kind of I think 300 00:17:23.480 --> 00:17:26.599 what maybe people think of when they hear maga are 301 00:17:26.720 --> 00:17:30.440 Trump supporters people who voted for Donald Trump? But really, 302 00:17:30.440 --> 00:17:33.799 if you're asking people, are you maga, and then they 303 00:17:33.839 --> 00:17:36.000 say yes, And then they asked, do you support the 304 00:17:36.039 --> 00:17:40.000 president's main initiative right now, they're gonna say yes if 305 00:17:40.079 --> 00:17:43.480 they if they did support the president's main initiative at 306 00:17:43.519 --> 00:17:47.200 the current time, then they don't support the president and 307 00:17:47.240 --> 00:17:49.440 they're not maga. And I mean, you bring up the 308 00:17:49.480 --> 00:17:52.880 North Korea reference. I think Kim Jong gun only one 309 00:17:53.640 --> 00:17:56.559 chairman of the Workers Party in North Korea by ninety 310 00:17:56.640 --> 00:17:59.599 nine point nine to three percent. So even there's a 311 00:17:59.640 --> 00:18:03.480 margin Bnavara and Pyongyang that doesn't exist in Washington anymore. 312 00:18:03.920 --> 00:18:08.319 Now on the political point, I think this is really 313 00:18:08.720 --> 00:18:13.480 really really important. After nine to eleven, the Republicans in 314 00:18:13.559 --> 00:18:17.720 the United States, like the Conservatives, had the cultural momentum. 315 00:18:18.079 --> 00:18:21.559 It wasn't just that, you know, the Republicans have political power, 316 00:18:21.599 --> 00:18:24.880 but you know, the rally around the flag and kind 317 00:18:24.920 --> 00:18:28.680 of the base conservative values were I think dominant, and 318 00:18:29.519 --> 00:18:34.960 that dominance was lost in Iraq, right, like, the administration 319 00:18:35.200 --> 00:18:39.279 lied so much about the war and exposed themselves as 320 00:18:39.359 --> 00:18:42.799 such horrific people that the American people went out and 321 00:18:42.799 --> 00:18:46.960 they elected Barack Obama with a Democratic Congress. But not 322 00:18:47.079 --> 00:18:50.960 only that, the culture in this country moved really, really 323 00:18:51.039 --> 00:18:54.559 and unacceptably far to the left right, Like we got 324 00:18:54.599 --> 00:19:01.519 to the point where the trans cultural move had actually 325 00:19:01.680 --> 00:19:06.599 outpaced like the medical science of it, right like they could. 326 00:19:06.920 --> 00:19:10.519 And it was because the Republicans has so greatly discredited 327 00:19:10.599 --> 00:19:14.759 it themselves. It wasn't until the Democrats went so overboard 328 00:19:15.119 --> 00:19:19.440 on the trans issue, the cultural issue, the women's sports stuff, 329 00:19:19.519 --> 00:19:23.440 the BLM that you know, we really got in twenty 330 00:19:23.519 --> 00:19:27.720 twenty four, a real shift back to a culture, you know, 331 00:19:27.880 --> 00:19:32.240 more conservative culture, which I think needs to happen a 332 00:19:32.279 --> 00:19:35.599 little bit. But Donald Trump is going to blow it all, right. 333 00:19:35.680 --> 00:19:40.400 The Democrats are going to annihilate the Republicans, and I 334 00:19:40.440 --> 00:19:43.079 think for years to come, you know, they're going to 335 00:19:43.160 --> 00:19:46.519 play clips of Donald Trump not only saying we won 336 00:19:46.559 --> 00:19:49.279 the war, but kind of like joking about killing people. 337 00:19:49.920 --> 00:19:53.680 Pete Headset in particular talking about how you know, the 338 00:19:54.119 --> 00:19:57.000 our bombs are blessed by the Lord and all this 339 00:19:57.200 --> 00:20:00.960 other like religious cookery he's trying to insert into the 340 00:20:01.000 --> 00:20:06.440 war making jd vance suggesting that some Iranian is going 341 00:20:06.480 --> 00:20:10.279 to walk into a supermarket with I'm not even joking, 342 00:20:10.400 --> 00:20:15.480 he actually said this a nuclear weapon suicide vest and 343 00:20:15.559 --> 00:20:19.039 blow himself up. I mean, the claims coming out of 344 00:20:19.039 --> 00:20:22.000 the administration right now are absurd, and they're really going 345 00:20:22.039 --> 00:20:24.759 to discredit the right wing. I think not only are 346 00:20:24.799 --> 00:20:28.319 we going to see a massive, just like political victory 347 00:20:28.359 --> 00:20:32.160 for the Democrats in the midterms, but also it's going 348 00:20:32.240 --> 00:20:36.079 to lose the Republicans early their their cultural moment they had, 349 00:20:36.599 --> 00:20:39.640 which even if I don't agree with all of it, 350 00:20:40.000 --> 00:20:43.559 I do think was needed after the past two decades. 351 00:20:45.279 --> 00:20:49.480 Well, and there are several things we've already seen this happen, right, 352 00:20:49.759 --> 00:20:53.480 And what happens is that you see this in you know, 353 00:20:53.720 --> 00:20:57.039 my state of Virginia, where you know, the Democrats run 354 00:20:57.079 --> 00:21:01.359 someone who on first inspection seems very sense, right, you 355 00:21:01.400 --> 00:21:04.240 know this, you know, nice white lady from the CIA, 356 00:21:04.960 --> 00:21:08.319 you know, she seems great, and then it's like, oh, well, 357 00:21:08.599 --> 00:21:11.880 we got rid of mandatory minimums for murder and rape 358 00:21:12.039 --> 00:21:16.200 and decriminalized vagrancy. And it's like, well, they didn't lead 359 00:21:16.240 --> 00:21:18.759 with that. It's not like she came out as you know, 360 00:21:18.759 --> 00:21:21.240 the head of the pro the pro rape and murder party, 361 00:21:21.480 --> 00:21:25.000 I think, a minority position in the US. But all 362 00:21:25.039 --> 00:21:29.640 of those excesses will come, they will not be broadcasted. 363 00:21:30.319 --> 00:21:32.759 And on the other issue is someone who is to 364 00:21:33.359 --> 00:21:36.400 shall we say, significantly to the right of you know, 365 00:21:36.440 --> 00:21:39.079 many people. What I've noticed, and I've been sounding the 366 00:21:39.119 --> 00:21:42.359 bell on this since the election, is that there has 367 00:21:42.400 --> 00:21:48.480 been a deliberate desire to paint the sort of secondary 368 00:21:48.559 --> 00:21:52.559 parts of the American right, the anti war movement, uh, 369 00:21:52.720 --> 00:21:56.920 you know, the more shall we say, stridently religious conservatives. 370 00:21:56.920 --> 00:21:58.960 You see, you know, a lot of attacks on you know, 371 00:21:59.000 --> 00:22:03.880 traditional Catholic or the scare phrase Christian nationalists, and to 372 00:22:03.960 --> 00:22:08.279 lay the groundwork and say, oh, that's why we're going 373 00:22:08.319 --> 00:22:11.920 to lose the next election. It's not because Trump didn't deliver, 374 00:22:12.160 --> 00:22:14.880 it's not because of this unpopular war. It's because of 375 00:22:14.920 --> 00:22:17.599 you people, many of the same people who have been 376 00:22:17.640 --> 00:22:21.279 fighting against the neocons for thirty years. That's the problem. 377 00:22:21.480 --> 00:22:24.359 We did too much of that. What we need is 378 00:22:24.400 --> 00:22:26.799 another John McCain. And if we had just done that, 379 00:22:27.640 --> 00:22:30.039 then we never would have you ended up in these 380 00:22:30.200 --> 00:22:33.480 dire straits. And I think that that's was a very 381 00:22:33.480 --> 00:22:37.440 interesting admission, even shortly after the election, right saying what 382 00:22:37.720 --> 00:22:42.359 gave Trump this incredible victory and the people taking credit 383 00:22:42.400 --> 00:22:45.359 for it, and also laying the ground afterwards, well before 384 00:22:45.400 --> 00:22:47.839 we got into this ill conceived for and war, were 385 00:22:47.839 --> 00:22:50.839 saying this is who you're gonna blame when things go wrong. 386 00:22:51.559 --> 00:22:56.000 And I'm not going to say it's working, but if 387 00:22:56.039 --> 00:22:59.359 there is a massive, you know, electoral defeat, that's what 388 00:22:59.440 --> 00:23:02.640 narrative will you know, be presented. It will not be 389 00:23:03.160 --> 00:23:07.359 we did something wrong. We you know, sort of acted 390 00:23:07.359 --> 00:23:13.559 as Israel's lapdog. It's the bad guys, it's the woke 391 00:23:13.759 --> 00:23:16.480 right is the term you see, you know, being thrown around. 392 00:23:16.960 --> 00:23:20.640 And so that that scapegoat has sort of already been made. Right, 393 00:23:20.640 --> 00:23:23.759 they've laid the ground to blame what, in my mind 394 00:23:23.839 --> 00:23:27.240 are the only redeemable parts of the American right, and 395 00:23:27.319 --> 00:23:29.160 to say, well, if we just had if we had 396 00:23:29.200 --> 00:23:32.720 only been more neo conservative, if we had only done more, 397 00:23:33.240 --> 00:23:35.200 that's what would have saved us, So we need to 398 00:23:35.240 --> 00:23:38.759 purge these people. You saw this happen even well before 399 00:23:38.759 --> 00:23:42.839 this at places like Heritage. My I am hearing from 400 00:23:42.880 --> 00:23:46.960 many people, but more more than a handful that the 401 00:23:47.000 --> 00:23:50.960